battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

good morning everyone 🙂

7 more weeks till season 4 woot

[errant scarab]

So much

[arctic grove]

ik 😦

[ancient peak]

I’m fine with that. More development time

[shy latch]

why not?

[arctic grove]

im still trying to unlock the P90 so hopefully it dosent go away

[errant scarab]

2 months ?

[remote kiln]

season 4 is actually already mostly finished

what's being produced now will be season 5 content

[errant scarab]

Destructions?

[remote kiln]

destruction was always the funniest meme in this franchise

something something blow up a map that makes it worse

[ancient peak]

That’s what I mean. More Dev time for a season 5 that may be enough to convince another season after that. Although honestly even just support after season 4 was surprising but appreciated

[shy latch]

destructions is something very delicate, it's nice to have but not too much

[arctic grove]

i still dont know how to nuke that one map with the sub in the ship lol

[remote kiln]

even when it's impact exists on a grand total of 4 maps where destruction is actually useful in bf4 it's heralded as some inception of the rapture

[wide shore]

That’s why BF1 destruction is the best

[remote kiln]

but boat destroys beach

woo

cinematic

[errant scarab]

More inmersion?

[eager spire]

cinemativ

[wide shore]

Still keeps plenty of cover. Can create deep af foxholes. It’s perfect

[errant scarab]

Better soundtrack?

[wide shore]

BF1 is just that game.

[remote kiln]

destruction is not immersive

[errant scarab]

No more psbjshs a psnsms psbsns soundtrack

[wide shore]

Destruction is absolutely immersive

[remote kiln]

surviving a tank cannon shell behind a wall only to die when the building is destroyed is the biggest meme

[shy latch]

guys, are you talking about destructions or levolution? because they are different

[remote kiln]

and even then you can run out of it

[wide shore]

I’m talking normal destruction. Levolution is lame

[errant scarab]

when they release season 4 I hope they focus on creating the next battlefield

[remote kiln]

the only severe impact destruction has made is in 3 with bazaar

and that's an extreme exception

[wide shore]

Any of the bigger buildings on 3 with the rubble collapse was a round changer

[errant scarab]

I love bfv destruction too

[eager spire]

BF1 still sucks as a game though.

[wide shore]

I’d say BF1 and BFV are on part if not for two things. 1: BFV craters are above the terrain instead of in it. And 2: you can’t destroy most trees.

[errant scarab]

Bf1 The most technically developed game in the franchise

[eager spire]

And it’s still fucking awful.

[errant scarab]

Awful? What u mean

[eager spire]

From a gameplay perspective on multiple levels it’s ass.

[arctic grove]

has anyone gone full immersion and fully turned off hud and played?

[arctic grove]

because BF is a tactical style shooter

this isnt cod

The weapon restrictions, class abilities, etc made the game fun

now its just a worse cod

[errant scarab]

2042 for a battlefield looks horrible, battlefield is much more than that

[arctic grove]

with cap points

[remote kiln]

I was a staunch hardcore player in bf3 so I did

[arctic grove]

oh and dont forget about the good ol bf3, ww2 one and others

where they have only ported 10 weapons

isnt that lovely?

[eager spire]

Brave of you to admit you were bad. :P

[still vault]

Doesn't have Battlelog, custom servers, BF4 style levelution. BF1 is a lot of things, but not the most "technically developed game" (whatever that means) imo.

[arctic grove]

oh def in bf3 and 4 i did havent yet in 2042 tho

[errant scarab]

Yes is it sir

[remote kiln]

platoon scrims ftw

[errant scarab]

Bf1 soundtrack > 2042

[remote kiln]

not tried it in 2042 probably would be equivalent to playing nightmare on elm Street

[eager spire]

Brave of you to admit the platoon that you were in is bad.

[wide shore]

Replaced levolution with airships crashing dynamically. Which IMO is much more technically impressive than any of the levolution events.

[fervent grotto]

Not having BF4 levelution is a design choice not a “Didn’t develop” it thing

[arctic grove]

i wish 2042 had that epic BF3 website hook for clans i miss that dearly

[remote kiln]

they weren't hardcore players, I just preferred it for tuning audio cues in regular matches

[arctic grove]

Also where is the commander system

It was fun

even though not a lot of people were even aware of it

[errant scarab]

achieve an almost perfect level of immersion, it feels like a war game, it feels like a battlefield

[remote kiln]

was exceptionally useful for training ADSing cover on bf3 maps

[fervent grotto]

BFV does it too. Everything in those games are destroyable, where as BF4 has one big huge event and then small events, along with a little bits of destruction.

[wide shore]

BF1 came out over 6 years ago and if it came out today people would still be drooling over the visuals.

[still vault]

Sure, the debris being somewhat random was good. Less impactful for the gameplay though.

[eager spire]

People still are, but that’s all people talk about.

[wide shore]

But they also introduced dynamic weather. Which did change the gameplay

[eager spire]

BF1 is a good looking game, yes, but it’s just not a good game.

[wide shore]

You’re right. It’s a great game.

[errant scarab]

Bf1 is war, BATTLEFIELD

no players running like cod wtf 🤣

[wide shore]

That’s not true at all. Lol

[fervent grotto]

Yes it is? I mean I guess that’s objective, but it’s a pretty fun game to play, has a good soundtrack, and had a good amount of content. Along with the visuals you mentioned

[remote kiln]

the game is a mechanical masterpiece, but it definitely isn't the most technically advanced game, and it can't be, it has to conform to its time period

[fervent grotto]

That is cap

[still vault]

I'm not saying BF1 didn't do a lot of good things, I just don't think it is a fair assessment to call it the most "technically developed game".

[eager spire]

No. It’s terrible. It tries to be a halfway house between an immersive shooter and a normal BF game and succeeds at neither.

[remote kiln]

you can't have say commander mode in say bf1

it just, yeah, nah

[errant scarab]

Running like cod

3 person takedown like cod

No destruction like cod

[wide shore]

2042 has destruction. Just doesn’t have a lot of it.

[errant scarab]

Sadly

3 person takedown in battlefield?

How?

[fervent grotto]

You mean 3rd person?

[wide shore]

We have this debate far too often. I love BF1 and basically everything about it. I’m very biased.

[fervent grotto]

Ok, you clearly just have bias towards the game. It’s a good game, you just don’t enjoy it

[eager spire]

Because you won’t see past your bias and acknowledge my points dammit.

[wide shore]

Only big complaint I have ever, and do ever have about 1 is the shitty conquest system

[wide shore]

Because I simply don’t agree.

[low timber]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[wide shore]

You’re free to have your opinion through

[arctic grove]

idk why everyone "still" hates on 2042, ya sure its not perfict, and had a bad launch, but DICE been kicking ass with making it better, i for one am hooked

[errant scarab]

you get behind a player you hold him and almost dance like a cod 😭

[eager spire]

I’m sorry but I cannot live in a world where people think that the multiple slide nerfs in BF1 were justified.

[shy latch]

commander have been overrated since the beginning, plus if I wanted to play from commander to infantry (or viceversa) I needed to leave the server and rejoin; the base idea wasn't bad but wasn't so great from other points of view including balance

[remote kiln]

there is a small but vocal minority of the playerbase who will never accept a non-bf3/BF4 only game

[errant scarab]

first person is best

[fervent grotto]

It is enjoyable, I just wish we would’ve gotten more content and an actually good game from the start. But it’s better now, so I’m pretty happy.

[remote kiln]

and ironically, they're the problem

[arctic grove]

oh boy

[wide shore]

Where’s battlefield 4.5

[ancient peak]

What’s funny is these same people would complain about a BF 4.5 as “lazy”

[wide shore]

Yes

[remote kiln]

yeah you can't get through to them

[arctic grove]

pretty sure the whole community was asking for 4.5

[remote kiln]

they want a remake of the classics, but also they want it changed so it doesn't fit like the older games

??

[eager spire]

People will accept any amount of poorly designed bullshit with enough time. BFV is a prime example.

[wide shore]

Not me.

[errant scarab]

2042 has tried to copy the mechanics of bfv but it doesn't work out, with that fast gameplay and abrupt movements it looks bad

[ancient peak]

I sure wasn’t asking for a 4.5

[still vault]

The whole community doesn't agree on anything

[eager spire]

Hell, even BF1 is an example.

[shy latch]

you mean a sort of remastered or remake by saying BF 4.5?

[fervent grotto]

I will say while I enjoy using the older guns in the main game of 2042, I think it’s lazy. Adding old content due to a lack of new content is very lazy

[errant scarab]

Battlefield v have 3 years out service, why have more players?

[wide shore]

Basically a reskin of the mechanics, and new maps.

[shy latch]

oh

so a CoD

[wide shore]

More or less

[arctic grove]

sorry to double ping, ya the 2 games i play, bf2042 and destiny 2 have been full of haters for months now, its gotten so bad that on desntiy 2 bungie employees are quiting over death threats and in bf2042 its a little bit less but still a lot of trolls and hate, all and all people are never happy, they are to demanding and need a chill pill but ya....

[shy latch]

nice.....

[eager spire]

You when MW2 releases OG Map remakes: :O

[wide shore]

DICE don’t always hit their mark. But at least they TRY to do something new every game.

For better or for worse.

[eager spire]

They never do.

They never make a game that is entirely made of what fucking works.

They always have to change some shit.

[wide shore]

They’ve introduced many things over the years that have been fan favorites

Squad revive being a big one.

[arctic grove]

BF4 has a shit ass launch worse then 2042 but they dident and never got 2042s hate like wtf?

[fervent grotto]

Yes I knew you were gonna say that. But MW2 had an ample supply of content and decent maps at launch instead of needing to add already used content

[remote kiln]

yeah, DICE have had it before too, when bf1 was announced people sent them that type of stuff when they heard it wasn't modern, bf5 was then announced and it repeated, 2042 (a modern game) came out, and they got that abuse because of specialists

[wide shore]

Oh yes it did

[arctic grove]

i missed it then

[remote kiln]

you would never imagine BF4 got hate

[shy latch]

better or worse cannot be totally predicted if there is something new introducted, but trying to be innovative is what I always appreciated from DICE

[remote kiln]

it did, but it didn't last

[wide shore]

It’s hard to tell now cause everyone acts like it’s the best FPS ever made

[eager spire]

You when MW2 charges money for models ripped from the campaign: :O

[arctic grove]

Subprime opinions are currently being shared in the chat

[wide shore]

You never really know until it’s in the players hands

[shy latch]

exactly

[arctic grove]

to many gamers are depressed in real life and sadly find trolling/hating on people makes them happy, why a troll never gets to me i petty them

[eager spire]

I mean

[remote kiln]

although saying that bungie have had it far, far worse than DICE

[eager spire]

A lot of people were saying 2042 wasn’t gonna work out before launch. Launch happens, and what do you know, it’s not working out.

[fervent grotto]

Me when COD launches with an ample amount of content :0

[arctic grove]

i usaully tell them, "hey get on my level at least you dont have Lupus, count your blessings"

[arctic grove]

they did

[ancient peak]

What have they added since then

[wide shore]

But the problem is. There’s people who do like 2042’s systems. And now they’re changing it mid lifespan to try and garner good faith.

[eager spire]

Sometimes you can just tell things are not gonna work out by hearing about them and thinking about them critically.

[fervent grotto]

2042 is good now, don’t get me wrong. I just wish they would’ve spent more time developing

[remote kiln]

it's funny cause 2042, is in itself a mechanical masterpiece

[wide shore]

But now they’re gonna alienate the people who like 2042’s systems.

[remote kiln]

but we got the rushed buggy mess like on repeat

[eager spire]

No accounting for poor taste. Not that it matters, whatever really matters isn’t what’s getting fixed.

[arctic grove]

2042 is by far my favorite BF BUT a lot of people would hate me for saying my opnion on that, but hey im a sucker for sci fi/near future shit lol, btw bf4 before 2042 was my fav

[shy latch]

everyone wanted it, but probably just one didn't want it....and you can guess who (but don't write here in chat)

[remote kiln]

ehh you can say good faith, but it's necessary in some form, what this is, is a bandaid

it's necessary for game balance

[wide shore]

Ehhhh

[fervent grotto]

4 new guns (all with their own unique camos) some new ops (that have no affect on gameplay), new missions in DMZ, and yes, two recycled maps.

[eager spire]

It is necessary for game readability.

[wide shore]

I see it more as a “we fucked up, and now we gotta try to get our old community back”

[remote kiln]

we've got flying TV rockets and 40 different ways to kill other players, as long as that level of chaos exists it will never be balanced

[arctic grove]

atm my only wish for 2042 is it be more polished and optimized, atm with my 1660 SUPER and Ryzen 5 3600 im getting 88% load on both cpu and gpu while playing conquest 128 players

[remote kiln]

eh sorry my guy, but that's your hardware not the game

[arctic grove]

ya ik

[eager spire]

Where’s the fucking recoil bug fix, DICE?

[arctic grove]

why i hope they optimize it more

[fervent grotto]

Did they ever Buff Liz? I never heard about any buff. I remember her rockets being slow and hard to steer

[remote kiln]

that's not wrong

[remote kiln]

they didn't, they don't need to, her existence is enough to throw the game's balance inherently out the window

[ancient peak]

Of which 3 guns are basically slight variations of the same platform

[wide shore]

It’s not. But I just can’t help but see it as diminishing returns. This game soured a lot of long time fans. I don’t think this bandaid fix is gonna bring many of them back like I imagine they think

[arctic grove]

hey btw Deco what youre main in 2042 atm im rocking Casper but with a AR i cant snipe for the life of me lol

[fervent grotto]

Yeah, that’s how guns work dude. They are all their own guns though, and still play different.

[eager spire]

It’s not. And they’re not fixing bigger issues like input problems, balance issues, the recoil bug.

[arctic grove]

O.o

[fervent grotto]

Dude holy shit what

[arctic grove]

i just hit 35 hours ingame lol

[wide shore]

That’s not something you see every day

[arctic grove]

Jesus 👀

[remote kiln]

diff breed

[fervent grotto]

Wonder if bro is a Rao main

[arctic grove]

also nice k/d

[remote kiln]

ty

[arctic grove]

mines 1.1

[still vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-mr-gif-12747764

[fervent grotto]

Fair

[remote kiln]

[arctic grove]

@remote kiln im still a noob lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446371403445436426/1062363810352083044/Ren_Atreides_BF2042WeaponStats.png

[remote kiln]

you're new to the game everyone is at some point

I played bf3 semi competitively years ago, so it's not like a fair comparison

[arctic grove]

im a casual gamer anyway so i dont usually follow my k/d and stuff

Why do machine guns have 8x scopes?

[eager spire]

DICE are an annoying company. You could tell them exactly what you want, and nothing you want is even new to them, but they’d still find a way to fuck it up because they’ll try to do some Innovation™️ when nobody wants it.

[arctic grove]

I dont think any of them are capable of utilizing it

only time i ever followed my anything was in BF3 i had 10k P90 kills LOL

[fervent grotto]

Don’t worry dude my kd is at most 1.6 in most games I play too. It’s really a meaningless stat. As long as you have fun it’s nothing to worry about

[remote kiln]

I think I was like

3k acb90 kills

[arctic grove]

since stargate-SG1 i ONLY used the P90 after i unlocked it LOL

[still vault]

O'Neil would be proud

[remote kiln]

3.7k close enough

[arctic grove]

O_O

i dont remember my old xbox name so i cant look me up sadly

and now im PC full time

[remote kiln]

they need to bring the aug into 2042

the anti m16 weapon

[arctic grove]

i hear that

i miss my Metro map too

[remote kiln]

ye i was on console at the time

[arctic grove]

cool

[ancient peak]

Another bullpup rifle would be neat

[fervent grotto]

It would be amazing

[arctic grove]

my friend Dug told me last night when we where playing 2042, "im never not using the railgun, it slaps",......ya seems it does

[remote kiln]

if it kept its stats from bf3, it would probably supersede the scar tbh

[fervent grotto]

What about a bullpup smg? Like the Chinese one, forgot what it was called.

[arctic grove]

only 1 fucking gun id PAY DICE to bring back

[fervent grotto]

A Tavor would be nice as an alternative to the Aug

[remote kiln]

huh how did i get 39k kills in bf3

didnt feel like it

[arctic grove]

i miss my BC2 MX8

the AR varient

[fervent grotto]

Bro we get it your better then us 😭

[remote kiln]

nah like it legit didnt feel like it lmao

just looking at the old numbers

[fervent grotto]

Bruh thats fucking insane

[arctic grove]

the AR MX8 is besides the P90 my favorite gun

[fervent grotto]

Like take it in for a moment. 39,000

Kills

[remote kiln]

idr

[arctic grove]

yep

[fervent grotto]

That’s how many people you’ve shot, blown up, stabbed, and whatever else

[remote kiln]

10% of them being knifed apparently

[arctic grove]

thats awesome, remind me never to come across you in 2042 lol

[remote kiln]

[arctic grove]

i will nad myself

before you knife me

xD

[remote kiln]

look for a rao with a weird helmet and a scar

itll probably be me

[arctic grove]

heh

bbs morning chores are yelling at me

nice talking to you guys

[remote kiln]

ye u2

[grave prism]

why they give dozer a halloween costume 😭

wait where normal conquest at ?

[silk surge]

This is the current top 1 guy on BFT, something doesn't sit right with me....

[low timber]

Wow the LCMG legendary skins Maul Hybris is a downgrade

The 1.25x part looks better though

[silk surge]

his Dozer 21KPM means that he kills someone every 3 seconds.... and 99.9% of his kills are human kills...

Not to mention his 1300 KD...

[spiral folio]

99.9

Theyre out there

[grave prism]

he got swag

dont be sad

this is just how it works out sometimes

[gloomy wyvern]

Remember, those who have no game sense, will look for those who can provide "instant" game sense. Also formerly known as cheats.

[silk surge]

Yeah, there's no way that this dude isn't just rage-cheating in every game he plays... But he has 2k hours and is currently top 1 on BFT, how hasn't he been caught?

[spiral folio]

He's going full captain america. Swirling around blocking every shot with his shield. Scoped SMG headshotting everyone he aims at

Timing his aiming between the weight of the bolt

[gloomy wyvern]

& @spiral folio, he might be the basically homeless and made it VR....

[spiral folio]

Problem is you cant bounce that clunky fold out shield cause itll just kinda smash into the wall and collapse

[gloomy wyvern]

@silk surge & @spiral folio

This is what I'm referring to
https://youtu.be/c4pVE92ZcTM

[spiral folio]

My mental image is more interesting so i dont want to ruin it

[tardy shard]

Hey any ho know why i just keep getting stuck in the loading screen and never comes in the game

[mental delta]

PC ?

[tardy shard]

Yep

[mental delta]

Just a bug a lot of people get, just reinstall

[tardy shard]

Oh okay

[tardy shard]

Thx

[mental delta]

No problems, not sure it will work

[chilly jacinth]

restarting a few times usually helps

[tardy shard]

Like to pc or the game

[chilly jacinth]

game

[hexed mango]

what if dice announced 3.2 now

[upbeat sluice]

Gawt dayum the throwing knife is fun

[ancient peak]

Best lethal equip

[sharp marten]

Yo that dozer skin is chefs kiss

[chilly jacinth]

no shield skin so it's bad

[stiff pollen]

Yeah that skin is cool

Too bad I grinded my Ass off for his t1

And I never played him again after

[ancient peak]

Sounds like me and Mackay

[stiff pollen]

Lol I got his t1 the first week by abusing the scout heli

[arctic grove]

Is this game dying? Feels like it to me, been waiting. 5+ mins for a match to fill.

Im on ps5 also

[spiral folio]

Take a drink

Are you playing some horrible mode nobody likes?

[arctic grove]

Which is?

[spiral folio]

You say it

Crossplay could also be turned off

[arctic grove]

I tried loading rush and nothing, breakthrough and nothing, and now trying to load conquest and still nothing, even checked portals to see if something was going on.

[spiral folio]

Id see if crossplay is on
Cause nobody has a ps5 for it has "no game"

[arctic grove]

Lemme check

[spiral folio]

Nobody can get a ps5 cause theyre always sold out

[arctic grove]

I legit have it installed hoping i get my moneys worth since i bought ultimate edition 😅

[spiral folio]

Its like "nobody in newyork drives. Theres too much traffic"

[arctic grove]

Holy shit lmao my crossplay is on and i still have issues 😭

Im not able to do all that for a game i barely like 😂😂 i guess i should kiss goodbye that $120 i spent lmao

[spiral folio]

Ive never had to wait too long on pc... and ive got crossplay on

So assuming crossplay is on it's suspicious

Unless its regional

If youre in like australia or something

[arctic grove]

More like, im dissappointed i trusted the bf franchise on a promising game, i been riding this game since beta hoping it gets better but it just doesnt.

So like im wasting more time on it than i did my money

[fervent grotto]

It has gotten better

[arctic grove]

Nah dude its a ps5, no issues here, and i have top internet connection. Regional would make sense but it shows me the community is all there as i would hope for it to be

[arctic grove]

You can polish shit to make it look nice 😂 doesnt change the fact its still shit

Damn then yeah the games failing me right now

Dude i been riding hard for the bf franchise since bad company, feels like im finally dumping a girl who just wasnt the one

[iron thistle]

Man wtf are the new conquest playlists this week ?

Infantry conquest and seasons conquest

its trash

one playlist that contains 3 maps the other infantry only conquest why tf doesnt exodus conquest remain a staple

[arctic grove]

See my expectations of the game from release, is the current state its in. So imagine the dissapointment i felt from beta and launch

[fervent grotto]

Fam this is beginning to sound like a huge personal issue

[arctic grove]

Haha nah i was just giving an analogy so some can maybe relate, if the shoe fits bro. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Yeah i blame ea overall, dont worry i lnow bf team tried their best and is still doing so

[fervent grotto]

Have you tried restarting? Have you deleted them redownloaded?

[arctic grove]

I dont think any of that can change a games queue time 🧐 thats all based on the servers available for play

Not the hardware itself

[fervent grotto]

Well then your servers are empty

[iron thistle]

Whoever decides these weekly playlists should be fired

[arctic grove]

Hahaha the logic isnt there,

And no dude i wouldnt waste my time

I legit am a hardcore fan and im tryna et convinced to not delete this game and give up on the franchise 😭😭 but bf 2042 is making it reeeally hard right now hahaha

[fervent grotto]

What have you done to try and fix it?

[spiral folio]

Its weird youre the only person having the issue even on ps5

[arctic grove]

Okay so from your logic, you guys think its my ps5, but i am fully aware that my issue is my queue time for loading into a lobby or game where we cant even get the minimum people to start. Cant even get 16 in the lobby. So my logic says there are not enough players in this community to keep a flow of constant games and rather im going to be waiting for matches to start, and even then the lobby wont even fill til the end of match, if that makes sense to you guys. Im basically pointing out that the comminity for bf franchise isnt as strong as before and its noticable with this game. Which is making me realize maybe its time to let it go?

[mental cave]

get a VPN

[arctic grove]

See this sounds like a viable solution

[spiral folio]

It's one of two things
Region
Or
Crossplay isnt on

[arctic grove]

I checked crossplay when i was told earier snd i was shocked it was on

So region might be the case

[spiral folio]

Where are you roughly ?

[arctic grove]

East NA,

[willow sky]

i also encounter some empty games, but if theres nothing to play on that mode, i just swap to another one

right now BT seems pretty dead on my side

[spiral folio]

Its probably not region

[arctic grove]

Yeah i tried swapping every game mode possible but nothing 🥲

And it seems dead on my side too

[iron thistle]

Lol im where your at if you dont like the game just give up on it. Had the same problem with hardline simply stopped playing it no issue

[mental cave]

whats your wifi plan speed?

[arctic grove]

100g/s

[mental cave]

could be a region issue and a ping issue

[willow sky]

its probably just low player count, i dont see many players in the morning eitherway on a tuesday on west NA

[mental cave]

its also morning on a weekday

[spiral folio]

It is morning still but even in the US theres enough college kids gaming to fill a 2042 server

[mental cave]

[placid echo]

I'm on East NA and I never really have problems finding a server for most modes

[mental cave]

im not working cus california is flooding

[spiral folio]

Yea so how sure are you that crossplay is turned on

[willow sky]

And also, when this happens, you can farm the heck outta vehicles in all out superiority which is enjoyable at least, with 2 players and a bunch of bots 😂

[iron thistle]

A server browser would fix all of that too so sad. Rather than the quick match throwing me in an empty match with 30 ping id rather have the choice to pick a full server with 90 ping

[arctic grove]

I will send photos if its really needed haha

[spiral folio]

Maybe the ps5 just sucks

-shrug-

[arctic grove]

Which i thought portal was gonna provide but its a failure too

[iron thistle]

Ya bf3-bf4 community servers had more customization than portal does

[arctic grove]

I farmed almost everything becaus of the lobby issue 😂 i am tired of the bots lmao

[arctic grove]

Honestly man! Bf3 won my heart and ever since i been having conflict starting from bf 1&5

[spiral folio]

One was in here a while ago like having a weird error and then after loke an hour of arguing and trying to help he goes "nah its ps5 its not hardware"

[iron thistle]

Like i said im in the same boat. I enjoyed 1 and 5 for what they were on their own I just really dont think theres been a true to form battlefield since bf4

[spiral folio]

Bf1 and 5 were peak bf 3 and 4 were just remakes of 2

[iron thistle]

bf2 and 3 play 100% different lmfao

bf2 10x slower

[spiral folio]

It was maddening
As in
Like how a madden game came out every year more of the same

[mental cave]

if 2042 had the same aim assist as bf3 life would be easy

[iron thistle]

Not at all lol each bf from bc2 to bf4 built upon one another adding further leveloution and increasing player counts

[spiral folio]

Gotta give training wheels to the spray and prayers so they feel like people

[iron thistle]

bc2 started 16v16

[spiral folio]

I really hated the fps era of "every game is modern combat"

[arctic grove]

Honestly, if the community has gotten this bad that it has players like you in it. It makes more sense where this games going 🤣

[spiral folio]

Think i played civ during that period

And fallout

[iron thistle]

The first bf to flop did so bc it wasnt modern combat cough hardline

[spiral folio]

-coughandplay4free-

[arctic grove]

And even then hardline was fun on its own!

[chilly jacinth]

hardline is modern combat

just not war

[mental cave]

i feel like hardline was modern lol

[arctic grove]

Remember the drivable couch?

[patent prism]

Goodness gracious me, I just executed a wonderful flanking maneuver.

[iron thistle]

I feel like its a stretch to call cops and robbers modern combat

[spiral folio]

Hardline was like cops and robbers with grenades wasnt it?

Skipped that one cause small teams

[mental cave]

i think bf1 and bf5 got the most hate

[iron thistle]

well we know why 5 did lol

[spiral folio]

Bf1 got me back into BF

[iron thistle]

the robot arm woman in the first trailer of a ww2 game didnt sit well with the history chads

[patent prism]

With BF Hardline people just went: "We'll pretend you didn't do that."

[mental cave]

i mean it basically was just a spin off

[iron thistle]

Ton of reused assets too

some of the buildings are exactly the same minus wall paper and decorations between 1 and 5

[spiral folio]

Bf2,3,4 both bad companjes and hardline were all modern as was like... every CoD except world at war which sucked

[patent prism]

Idk man I kinda enjoyed Battlefield Hardline but it really did not have the Battlefield feel to it.

[spiral folio]

Man and CoDs weird future bs

[iron thistle]

I just totally disagree with most your takes lol i thought waw was fantastic

[spiral folio]

Waw was a dog shooting simulator

[arctic grove]

Hahaha same here

[iron thistle]

cod 4 had the same call in

[patent prism]

RELEASE THE DOGS!!

[iron thistle]

the gore too in a cod game was pretty cool imo

[patent prism]

Nothin' like dismembering your enemies using a Soviet anti-tank rifle.

[spiral folio]

CoD got so far from its original games it eventually had an Xcom space ship with basically the same name as Xcom2's Power armor and so on

[mental cave]

i never liked any world war game. I think the only people who like them are people who like world war history

[spiral folio]

I like that theres limited tech conveniences

[patent prism]

How old are you? Genuinely curious because I have a theory about this phenomenon.

[mental cave]

21

[iron thistle]

cod vanguard has entered the chat

[spiral folio]

Ie...
No anti missile pods, no homing missiles of any kind, no wall sensors or vision bs, no drones,....

[patent prism]

Alright, thank you.

[spiral folio]

No helicopters...

[mental cave]

im also originally not american if that also helps your theory

or british

[patent prism]

It does ever so slightly.

[spiral folio]

Do you recognize the crown
Or the corona

[mental cave]

i feel like the people who grew up american and patriotic are realllly into world war for some odd reason

[arctic grove]

For those that gave good feedback, just wanna give my thanks in the conversation about BF. Im taking a break from the game and ill check the updates to see if something pulls me back but for now im deleting it aha this whole time spent talking i still never loaded into aaaaaany match 😂

[spiral folio]

Probably because their grandparents fought in it?

[arctic grove]

Basically, like when someone likes to brag of past accomplishments but doesnt recognize the current state they are in

[spiral folio]

Ive literally had an ancestor in every war in america since like 1700

[mental cave]

and its all that was talked about in the history classes from 6 to 18 years old

[arctic grove]

And all the movies, and tv shows, and video games (medal of honor) etc

[spiral folio]

Ww2 is generally covered like briefly in gradeschool and more thoroughly in highschool

Ww1 is often not as well covered

[iron thistle]

Well i mean you have folks still being born whos grand parents fought in ww2 so id imagine itd be pretty cool to kinda see that thru a game

which again is probably why a ton of history chads were pissed about bf5

[spiral folio]

Your parents would have to be like.. 50

When you were born

And theirs too

[iron thistle]

Youre right maybe not being born today but most people who are of legal age to purchase a rated m game its possible

[spiral folio]

Yea like theres plenty of people alive today whos grandparents were in ww2

My grandpa didnt fight cause he was like 6 foot 9

Supposedly he was an aircraft mechanic

[low timber]

Lol, I got t-bagged for killing someone once

[mental cave]

what was the recent news about the civil war? The final payment was made to the family or smth

[spiral folio]

Hell if i know

[mental cave]

America is still quite young so families arent that detached from the wars yet

[spiral folio]

Theres always some weird nonsense of people doing that stuff

Some rich family all "i gave money to descendents of ..."

[mental cave]

no i think it was a benefits package from a death in service or a discharge. It was something small like $10 because back then it was something

[spiral folio]

I traced one line off my mothers side. The guy left Bavaria in 1820 to the US. 2 of his sons joined opppsite sides of the war

[mental cave]

apparently that happened a lot lol

[spiral folio]

Yea benefits package i guess would be like. An orphaned child of a civil war vet maybe?

My mom has pictures of her great grandfather i think he was there so maybe like somebody 100+ or something

[mental cave]

only like 6 generations ago, relatively recent.

[spiral folio]

Yea my niece got to meet her great grandpa a bit at least

[lucid goblet]

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[spiral folio]

I really hate those

Existing in a modern combat game

Even an impact grenade makes more sense

[mental cave]

i havent unlocked it yet

[spiral folio]

Guy narutos you with a knife
Bounces off your half inch thick kevlar helmet

Throws another
Stabs your backpack

[mental cave]

i play like 1 game a day and then get on need for speed

[spiral folio]

Throws another, hits your ballistic plate

[ebon pilot]

nanomachines son

can break through any armor

[spiral folio]

Nanomachines wont do that

[ebon pilot]

how do you know

[mental cave]

just needs a bipod to stabilize the throw

[spiral folio]

Nanocarbon "could"

But not thrown

Like a blade made of carbon nanotubes youd have basically an insanely sharp blade you could give incredible properties to but it'd basically still weigh as much as diamond and then the friction on the wedge of the knife itself

So like you could slice through a lot of things easily but anything rigid would stop it

The names for all the 2042 knives sound like edgy player usernames

[arctic grove]

I don’t mind the knives but I almost died inside when I saw people asking for BF1942 guns in AOW

[mental delta]

Shitty M2 goes pew pew

[magic bloom]

I think it’s cool to have one throwing knife not three

[arctic grove]

I don’t mind the bc2 and bf3 guns cause if we’re gonna bring in the logistics of the US and Russia then it’s way more likely you’d see older AK74s and M4s before a fuckin

Lee enfield

[mental delta]

No throwing knives is better

[arctic grove]

And yes, I know, it doesn’t have to be realistic

but i do not care, I wanna see near future shit, at the very least modern guns

3 knives is so clutch since I think they’re more of a PC player gadget

[mental delta]

You got railgun you happy ?

[arctic grove]

I can just spam them at people for ez kill

I don’t mind the s3 guns

I don’t use them tho negl

[magic bloom]

I think the 249 should be added to AOW

I mean the S3 shotgun Is probably the most accurate depiction of guns by 2042 in terms of the little smart screen on it

[arctic grove]

I like that one scope that displays range and ammo count

Cause that is definitely some 2042 stuff

In fact the NGSW-FC has it too

[spiral folio]

Only old guns i can think of that would add something not reeally in the game is like a fully functional panzerbusche. But the railgun already pretty much adds that sort of accuracy and more

[arctic grove]

Panzer in the name so it must be old

denied /j

[spiral folio]

Panzerbusche is 1200-1400m/s

Its a german ww2 anti armor rifle

It used a 20mm brass necked down to 8mm

Where the tankgewehr was basically a 1 shot .50cal
The 8x92mm was stupidly fast

But it also wore out barrels after like 500 rounds

[lavish patrol]

I didn't even realize I got M5A3 mastery to T2

[arctic grove]

That doesn’t sound too bad since I heard the MG42 needed a barrel change like every time it was fired

[patent prism]

Oh man, the T-Gewehr. The perfect example of "oh shit we need something quick". In essence an upscaled Gewehr 98.

[patent prism]

Weeeell, yes but no but yes. It needed to have it's barrel swapped after (iirc) every 200 rounds to prevent overheating.

[spiral folio]

The tankgewehr was literally just
"Multiply everything by 2, get it to the frontline"

The panzerbusche was a little more designed.

[patent prism]

The previous barrel would just be left aside to cool down.

[arctic grove]

200 rounds to the MG42 is like 3 seconds of firing

[patent prism]

Yeah, but firing continuously for 200 rounds is very rare.

[spiral folio]

Oh no i mean wore out as in ruined too

[stiff pollen]

I heard they straight up removed normal conquest for this week?

[arctic grove]

Jokes aside I exaggerated a bit, just heard it happened which I’m not surprised with since it’s RPM is super high

[spiral folio]

Like you would fire out the rifling and ruin the barrel by 500 rounds

The mg42 was just overheating

[stiff pollen]

Yeah but you typically pour a lager on the MG42 so it’s fine

Oktoberfest

[spiral folio]

The ridges on the barrel on the panzer ausf1c sre for the barrel wrenches so they could change the barrel

[patent prism]

Exactly this, the T-Gewehr would become unusably damaged after 500 rounds. The MG 42 just had the barrel swapped to prevent damage/warping of the barrel.

[spiral folio]

Er i mean the panzerbusche

[patent prism]

Pretty sure the same thing was true for the T-Gewehr tho, given how "Oh shit" it's design was.

[spiral folio]

The tankgewehr is the ww1 13mm

The panzerbusche is the high velocity ww2 gun

[stiff pollen]

Tbf I don’t think you’re living long enough to notice the T Gewehr getting damaged

French forces sending like 1000 renaults your way

Combined with creeping barrage

[patent prism]

I was about to make a remark that no T-Gewehr probably survived long enough to fire 500 rounds lmao

[spiral folio]

A pz1c probably lived long enough to fire 500

[stiff pollen]

You’d be more likely to see a dude use it as a giant club

[spiral folio]

Ohye cant post images

[mental delta]

Who spoke about French ???

[spiral folio]

If you can lift a tankgewehr over your head

[patent prism]

They did retrofit the PzB 39 didn't they? GrB 39? Extended it's usability for about two weeks.

[spiral folio]

The whole thing weighed 35lbs

[stiff pollen]

France sending like a couple 100 Renault F1’s into the western front alongside St Charmonds

Not to mention the mass of infantry.

I doubt anyone ever got able to fire the tank Gewehr 500 rounds through

I think the cup grenade launchers historically got more usage through them

[spiral folio]

Theres two versions of the TG too

[patent prism]

Yeah, same as the depth meter on the Type VII only going to like 100 meters

[spiral folio]

16900 produced
Thats 16899 more than the 08/18 smg

Don't let bf1 fool you

[patent prism]

Yeah, that's kinda why I hated the initial 4 months or so after the launch of BF1 and BFV

Everyone was suddenly an expert in WW1/2 weapons and how they were used and how prevalent they were.

Which, as someone who studies military technology, was very annoying.

[stiff pollen]

Nuh uh. Every Italian soldier had an Automatico

That’s why there’s so many battles of the Isonzo

[spiral folio]

The easy answer is like 90% had the bolts.

Probably more

[patent prism]

Yeah, probably more.

[spiral folio]

Its not reeally a ww1 game its more like a fantasy war 1918-1920

[arctic grove]

Average austro-Hungarian soldier had the SMG 08/18

[spiral folio]

There's literally postwar guns in it

[patent prism]

Average Swedish soldier had the Gevär m/96 which, even with the non-spitzer, fired on a flatter trajectory than most spitzer rounds of the WW1 era.

[spiral folio]

I wonder how much "forgotten weapons" views went up when bf1 came out

[patent prism]

Ian did a review on BF1 and it's weapons iirc.

[sharp marten]

I’d like to see that bf4 skin for Irish to drop soon

[spiral folio]

So "any soldier ever" ?

I kinda wish there were some generic uniform kinda skins

Lis has one
One

[patent prism]

I'd like to see a Swedish jägare as a specialist. Oh well, can't have everything in life.

[spiral folio]

The rest are all hexagons

[patent prism]

Hexagon camos just look weird to me.

[spiral folio]

Its worse than frigin digicam

[patent prism]

Digicam at least looks somewhat decent, hexagon just doesn't fit or blend in well in my eyes.

[spiral folio]

Digicam was the worst scam played on the us military

[patent prism]

Oh, UCP? Universally Crap Pattern?

[spiral folio]

It was on everything

[patent prism]

Yeah UCP was a terrible mistake, MARPAT looks neat though

As does AOR-1 and 2

[spiral folio]

The ASU digicam printed in like off-mint green

Like it didnt work
It faded fast so you had to have a spare WORK uniform left clean for special occasions.

My worst one was faded by the end of basic

[arctic grove]

Ngl at first I didn’t like multicam but it’s really grown on me

I absolutely love MARPAT and AOR tho

[patent prism]

I have zero military experience in any country's armed forces so I can't talk intelligently on that matter I'm afraid, but I heard UCP was generally shit at everything.

[spiral folio]

Zippers and no frigin velcro? Sign me up

I aaalmost bought one

[arctic grove]

UCP was called the grandmas couch camo

[spiral folio]

But i was getting out so like nah

[patent prism]

ha, i know that reference

[magic bloom]

Why does the Abrams have a smooth bore cannon I’ve never got a good answer

[patent prism]

Closest I got to the military was Home Guard Youth as a 15-year old but got kicked out after like 6 months.

[drowsy shuttle]

Irish aps still destroys c5? Lol ok

[patent prism]

There's a very good reason for this that I fail to remember at this specific point in time.

[spiral folio]

The sabots

[patent prism]

Yes, that.

[spiral folio]

Fin guided is more accurate than rifled

[magic bloom]

Ah

[patent prism]

I think you mean fin stabilized vs. twist stabilized, but yeah

[magic bloom]

Weren’t you like a tank mechanic

[drowsy shuttle]

I wish i could turn off crossplay. Whenever im on a squad with 3 console players i always change squad.

[spiral folio]

I worked on strykers which have the ol 105mm rifled

[magic bloom]

Ah

[patent prism]

I am likely in a minority on this but I love the Stryker aesthetically.

Especially M1127 with the LRAS3.

God I love recce vehicles.

[spiral folio]

We usually just went by name ie
"Stryker" "mgs" "atgm" etc

[patent prism]

I mean the RV

[arctic grove]

Same the strykers aesthetics are dope

[spiral folio]

The regular infantry carrier yea

[magic bloom]

The 105 looks kinda goofy tbh

[patent prism]

No, the reconnaissance vehicle. I mean they are basically identical but that big beautiful LRAS3

[spiral folio]

The 105 turret is also barely modified from the "expeditionary tank" from the 80s

[magic bloom]

ADATS had better aesthetics

Cause it’s all about looking cool

[patent prism]

If you really want aesthetics you want the Stridsfordon 9040 C

That thing makes me fail NNN every year

[spiral folio]

Theres good and bad with the Stryker. I liked working on em more than humvees and trucks

The oshkosh cab-over had the same engine

[patent prism]

I had to google that thing, oh my god that thing is huge

[magic bloom]

Patriot missile batteries when?

[patent prism]

We finally acquired the Patriot system rather recently

Which was extremely overdue because we were still using HAWKs

[magic bloom]

Lol

[arctic grove]

In your country? Or do ya mean the US

[patent prism]

In my country.

Sweden

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

[spiral folio]

Yea exports are limited by some stuff

[patent prism]

Yeah, meanwhile Sweden just exports everything to everyone. Except Russia, fuck Russia.

ALSO, getting back to the 2042 universe briefly; let's hear it for the dedicated crane operators on Manifest who still move around containers in the middle of a battle 👏

[arctic grove]

Do they really? That’s a funny detail

[patent prism]

They do, it's so funny

[spiral folio]

Its suppoaed to be automated im sure

[patent prism]

Shush, don't ruin this for me.

[spiral folio]

Whats pretty impressive is the city in hourglass is fully powered even with like 50ft dunes in the city

"Should weeee turn the lights off?"
"screw em we dont work here anymore. "

Whole city still entirely active

News just
"Schools cancelled due to uh... 50ft of sand blocking the road"

They'll get around to it

[wide shore]

I believe the pre-match voice guy explains that it’s been evacuated.

But the city power is probably all fusion powered

So the lights working isn’t too shocking I suppose. Especially if all the wires are underground

[spiral folio]

Evacuated cause like the dunes really just snuck in and suddenly happened

[wide shore]

We’re looking a bit far into this. Realistically it just looks cool.

[bitter skiff]

LMAO

[spiral folio]

Maybe a few holdouts like "ah shit i gotta get to work"
-grabs a tuktuk charging off a still powered trailer-
Drives 10min over sand covered roads.
Pushes it up one of the dunes. "Sonofa..."
Parks it at the still glowing tower. Rides elevator up 50 floors to his office
.. loads a new water bottle onto the cooler. Starts working.
-starts hearing helicopters-
"... what nowwwwwww"

[wide shore]

All vehicles deserve a shoutout for being able to climb and maneuver the dunes no problem

[mental delta]

They got nuclear fusion in BF2042 ?

[spiral folio]

Finally gets off work
Stayed late to finish some forms.
His vehicles gone. Windows shattered all over the place. Burning tanks around and scattered weapons.
"... ugh.."
-gets in a jeep-
"Come onnnn"
It barely starts with one tire basically flat. Drives home.

[wide shore]

I dunno. I admit I’ve not read all of the lore

Just seems like the likely energy type

[mental delta]

I tried to read some but without playable stuff it's a bit boring

[spiral folio]

I dont think fusion catches on til barely before the war in 2077

2060s at soonest

[magic bloom]

I mean their power could come from a different city

[spiral folio]

Youd think though like
Theyd cut the power since nobodys there

Imagine taking the stairwell to the roof

Just to snipe like twice before getting countered

[mental delta]

People are supposed to have fled the city recently before the battle or months before ?

[spiral folio]

Well the dunes didnt move in over night

So presumably this has been a while

[mental delta]

Well buildings should be damaged if sands moved on a lot of time before

[spiral folio]

Unless they kept spending power on like LED RGB windows but like have to use a SUV to get to work cause the city csnt be bothered to shovel the roads

[mental delta]

It's like nothing happened except a big sandstorm but everything else is fine

[magic bloom]

God I love carrying my team in vehicle destruction with my tanks

[spiral folio]

"Sir we could save hundreds of thousands while the city is vacant if we power down the building"
"No my icecream is in there"
"How about just the RGB windows?"
"Never"

[magic bloom]

Hold on a minute why Is dozer white in his new skin

He switched teams

[mental delta]

I hope Hourglass features destroyed or at least damaged buildings with season 5

[spiral folio]

Yea mr.holdout has to zipline from one to the other to get to his office now

[magic bloom]

Imagine a close quarters boots on the ground only where it’s between two skyscrapers

[spiral folio]

Just part of the ol commute

Another battle happens.
Seals up the shattered window hole with tape and some other spare windows and office partitions

[wide shore]

So, like Scrapmetal from BF3

But taller

[spiral folio]

The map would be hell if every floor was real

[mental delta]

Scrapmetal was so fucking good

[spiral folio]

I wish at least a few floors were

[wide shore]

Close Quarters was a solid DLC

[magic bloom]

No I’m not a bitch In using the normal tanks

I Never asked

[mental delta]

Yup it was original and maps were well designed

[magic bloom]

Very epic dlc

[wide shore]

So they actually do get something

[magic bloom]

I Just use the staff shell when fighting railgun tanks cause they thing range keeps them safe

Not when my shell guides itself

[wide shore]

BF3 maps were great. Some stinkers but overall what a game

[magic bloom]

I’m always down for a duel against railgun tanks as long as they don’t use that bullshit sentry mode

[wide shore]

BF3 really knew how to do medium sized maps with moderate vehicles.

[mental delta]

Yeah that's my favorite BF game tbh and they should look up to make next game more like it and BF4

[wide shore]

Karkand, Bazaar, Seine. All great for that

[spiral folio]

Play4free had karkand. Its a CF

[magic bloom]

I muss good AA vehicles tbh

[wide shore]

All of the aftermath maps were another perfect example of solid medium sized maps

[spiral folio]

Isnt kark a bf2 map

[arctic grove]

karkland?

[wide shore]

All of the back to Karkand maps were

But they all had that beautiful BF3 “HD destruction”

[spiral folio]

Yea cause play4free was mostly bf2 remakes

[arctic grove]

how do you like the legacy operation maps in 4?

[wide shore]

To think I used to complain that you couldn’t collapse 2 story buildings in BF3. Didn’t know how good we had it

BF3’s HD destruction was gorgeous

And still the only game to have rubble stay for a long period of time after a wall was destroyed.

[magic bloom]

Bf4’s destruction took cinematics over everything else

[arctic grove]

I did see one last night

it was rush or gun master

[wide shore]

BF3 had great destruction

[arctic grove]

were there any DLC maps that have levolution?

[wide shore]

Especially for its time.

[magic bloom]

Most destruction ruined the maps and I’ll stand by that til I die

[wide shore]

One thing I’ll never forgive BF4 for

[remote kiln]

ah yes here we go the "overpowered" railgun tank

[wide shore]

BC2 went a bit overboard with destruction. BF1 was the perfect middle ground.

Maps like Arica harbor were absolutely nothing after like 10 mins. Lol

[magic bloom]

Metro > locker

[wide shore]

Fully agree

[spiral folio]

Bf5 was almost total destruction

[magic bloom]

The fuck this ain’t team fortress 2

[arctic grove]

were there any DLC maps that have levolution?

[spiral folio]

Tunnel CF maps can go die

[wide shore]

Indeed. However it had some trees you couldn’t destroy.

[arctic grove]

name one

I don't remember

[spiral folio]

Stranded is an ok compromise between total CF by adding some open area

[wide shore]

Lumphini Gardens had a big one too

[arctic grove]

oh right lol

[arctic grove]

never seen it

[spiral folio]

I rocket down some trees on 2042 to cut peoples cover

[wide shore]

It’s the mudslide one.

[magic bloom]

Today we will defend out Egyptian Allie’s From western imperialism. sounds to me like Egypt needed some freedom

[wide shore]

Bigger buildings were destructible in BF3

At least the facades

Same with BF1/BFV

[arctic grove]

how about hardline

[wide shore]

Hardline destruction was so inconsistent

[magic bloom]

Hardline was just fun

I could stab some no good bank robber in the top of his head with a knife

[wide shore]

You had some maps like The Block where you could destroy the main buildings. But also maps like dust bowl where you could destroy nothing.

[hard plume]

I feel bad for hardline, it was enjoyable

[spiral folio]

Bf1 is like
"Sniper in the belltower"
-launches AT gun at the tower til it falls-

[wide shore]

Hardline was like “oi we can do some levolution and nothing else and nobody will care right?”

[magic bloom]

Cops carrying fuckin rocket launcher was epic

[spiral folio]

Man never snipe from a tower in bf1

[wide shore]

Most of BFH’s destruction is just set pieces.

[spiral folio]

Bf heroes destruction :v

[wide shore]

Pretty sure the only thing you can destroy in Dust Bowl is the drug lab thing

[idle plank]

FUN WHILE IT LAST THO

[spiral folio]

If you could snipe from any floor in hourglass it wouldn't be so bad. But that roof sucks

Hur no

[magic bloom]

No

[wide shore]

It would be a nightmare if you could enter every floor in a skyscraper

[arctic grove]

the interrogation in hardline

[spiral folio]

Its the sniper that doesnt snipe from the top floor you have to worry about

[arctic grove]

it's cool

[wide shore]

Like, yeah. It’d be cool. But what a nightmare it would be to find people

[spiral folio]

People get sniped at the first place they look is the top of that tall tower

[wide shore]

Unless the map was super condensed and had maybe 4-5 fully deplorable skyscrapers close together.

[spiral folio]

But they dont look at the short one to the left or below

The top of the shorter towers is hidden aome by the stuff behind it

That's not sniping its just aiming somewhat carefully

[wide shore]

This may be controversial. But I think BFV metro was the best metro

[spiral folio]

The only part that makes it unusual is aiming on a tunnel map

[blazing zealot]

I really wanted to understand why Dice ALWAYS remove the Exodus Conquest 64 mode. This is very annoying. It needs to be a permanent mode.

[wide shore]

I feel it’s more of a nostalgia thing. I love classic metro. But BFV metro feels much more dynamic and less grindy. While also still being grindy.

And the outside sections were good fun

[spiral folio]

Fort Vaux was like almost too many flanks so nobody made progress.

And if you didnt blitz the whole map. Idiots started using smoke

[wide shore]

I do love fort de Vaux tho.

[spiral folio]

Smoke in a tunnel map = no more progress

[wide shore]

Imagine Zain’s airburst on metro.

[arctic grove]

is it hard to spot a plane in 5?

[wide shore]

Well, it has no 3D spotting

[spiral folio]

Cause what. Smoke an enemy hiding waiting for you.
-waiting and hiding intensifies-

[arctic grove]

I know that

[wide shore]

Yeah but it wasn’t nearly as good

[spiral folio]

Yea explosives are way better for tunnels

[arctic grove]

like is it spot range or radius that strict

[spiral folio]

Smoke bad

[wide shore]

And locker

Idk maybe I didn’t use the airburst enough in 4

I didn’t use it much at all

Could you mark the range with the BF4 airburst?

[spiral folio]

Yea i hated people using smoke in tunnels.

Some used gas which is bad for a close range map anyway.

Incidiaries are ok-ish.
Bombs better
Crossbow bombs
-galaxy brain-

[wide shore]

Huh.

[arctic grove]

and what about flashbang

[spiral folio]

How i use the exploder crossbow is kinda like a zain thing

[mental delta]

French maps 🇫🇷

[spiral folio]

If you hit walls near em

[wide shore]

Prise De Tahure doesn’t get the love it deserves

[mental delta]

It was in the France DLC ?

I bought Premium but didn't play BF1 enough

[wide shore]

A medium sized city map, snowing at night

[wide shore]

It was a free map I believe.

Along with Nivelle Nights.

Another one of my favs

I just like night maps.

[arctic grove]

how much ticket does the attackers have usually in Grand op

[mental delta]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean

[wide shore]

I think I played grand ops like once in BFV.

So sad they didn’t just keep BF1 operations in BFV.

[mental delta]

Ha yeah maybe

[wide shore]

I know there’s breakthrough, but breakthrough doesn’t have 3 attacks and take place across 2 maps.

[arctic grove]

well

op is just breakthrough

nothing else

[wide shore]

It’s breakthrough, across 2-3 maps. And the attackers have 3 chances

[arctic grove]

I wish for variety

[wide shore]

Rounds were epic man.

[arctic grove]

give me other scenarios other than bt

[wide shore]

They did that with grand ops. But I didn’t like it tbh

[arctic grove]

well I do

[wide shore]

Have you ever gotten the final stand mode?

[arctic grove]

why not have one mcom and one flag

[wide shore]

I never played it

[arctic grove]

in one phase

I like that

not sure why they didn't think about that idea

[mental delta]

Lol yeah but in BF1 they help France not invade it

[arctic grove]

Especailly very patriotic militia men

Homefront totally has the most realistic US gets invaded scenario ever

[mental delta]

Usually they are the invaders, not the invaded

[wide shore]

🛢️?

[proud jewel]

The gpu drivers get updated by geforce software, i guess i can always use driver booster for the rest. Will try when i get a chance

Iv looked but cant find anything, is there a particular tab that i should look at? I looked at software

[arctic grove]

People speculate that China was supposed to be the antagonist but.. Chinese dolans

[proud jewel]

I feel not having to reset all my files/software is work some $. Especially when i work 18 hours every weekday

[drowsy shuttle]

weekly missions done, battle pass completed... see you guys in 3.2

[bitter skiff]

noice

[remote kiln]

resetting your files?

[spiral folio]

You cant sell games in china where china "can" be an adversary

Wasnt there also an issue with wow having panda people. Because like violence against pandas isnt allowed

[bitter skiff]

kick digital pandas in the keester

screw them

[spiral folio]

Its the same reason movies like red dawns remake went to north korea having an army remotely near peer in any way

[wide shore]

Can kill pandas in Minecraft

[spiral folio]

They banned topgun cause they left the taiwan patch on his jacket

[wide shore]

China is very strict these days

[bitter skiff]

wuss move

[wide shore]

This is why I said there’s no way the BF4 inspired map for season 5 is in China

[dire quest]

Most of battlefield 4 maps were in China

[wide shore]

There were many that werent tho

[spiral folio]

Yea that announcement was vague

It just said a region even

It could be japan depending how they define a region

North koreas giant concrete pyramid

[patent prism]

Dude, I wish you could specify a specific skin for each environment (i.e. desert, woodland, snow, etc)

[spiral folio]

Yea

People in stark white camo in a jungle

People in jungle ghili suits in Antarctica

[dire quest]

Nothing stopping you from changing camo pre-game

[spiral folio]

WoT does it

Automagically

[patent prism]

Doesn't BFV also do it to some degree?

[spiral folio]

Can't be too hard

[patent prism]

Quality of life.

[spiral folio]

I mean bf1 "does" because there's no costumes

[wide shore]

One thing I’ll give BF4 credit for. Is the adaptive camos.

[spiral folio]

Bf5 had faction specific costumes so bf5 didn't have auto balance

[patent prism]

Those are pretty neat, I used them on everything

DICE pls

[spiral folio]

Customizations killed the whole region specific uniforms

[wide shore]

[spiral folio]

Like a checkbox for "use this camo for all maps" is all itd take

But my guess is theyd rather sell bcoins

[wide shore]

Well, yeah. Ofc

[dire quest]

Are you too lazy to apply a camo for each map?

[patent prism]

Cash-money

[dire quest]

Lol

[wide shore]

They did 2 events just so they could sell limited time cosmetics.

[spiral folio]

Youd have to know which map is next to apply a camo for it

[patent prism]

Not really, it's just a hassle and pain to do. I still do it, but it could be a quality of life improvement imo.

[spiral folio]

Yea you really shouldnt have to since its their fault theres so many weird settings

[wide shore]

Nah you could do it before the round starts

[spiral folio]

I just shoot the gap
Desert tan

[proud jewel]

The fresh windows install alternative

[spiral folio]

Desert tan is the okest camo for all maps

White is almost bad everywhere

Gray is ok

[dire quest]

Does anyone use other camos besides their tier 1 skin?

[spiral folio]

Red and black no thanks

Gray and gray though hmm

[mental delta]

I use no camo tbh

[arctic grove]

I just run whatever makes me look the most anonymous

[patent prism]

1. I don't have a single T1 skin because I bought the game like a week ago
2. Even if I did have a T1 skin I wouldn't use it because I would rather be fairly anonymous and blend into the environment

[spiral folio]

I go with light camos for guns to break up which way theyre pointing. And the desert tan for lis.

[patent prism]

Man after my own heart.

[spiral folio]

Yea I wish i could hide rank too

I even put bronze mastery things on my card from shit i used once

[patent prism]

I'll be honest I am still grinding for the M90 camo for my guns, then that's probably all I'll use.

[spiral folio]

"Ohhh dont miiind me just a simple ol box pusher ah dont know nurfin about no combat"

[patent prism]

"which way is forward on this thing?"

[spiral folio]

-pilot kill from 1000m-

That way it shows up on their kill screen as like "some nub"

[patent prism]

I remember my first pilotsnipe in Battlefield 4. I was so amazed with myself.

Admittedly it was more luck than skill, because I have only achieved two or three pilotsnipes through all my time in Battlefield.

[spiral folio]

I potshot for the gray splotch where the cockpit is on em when i can. Hit the pilot this last weekend literally 1000m

[patent prism]

I did however spend a lot of time pilotsniping helicopters in Arma 3, that was a fun little challenge.

[spiral folio]

The condor drifted down and crashed sadly behind the wall

[patent prism]

My condolences.

[spiral folio]

People never believe me, but I'm convinced if you snipe the fuel tanks on the heavy bomber in bf1. It blows up

Like k-bullets or a tank hunter

[patent prism]

Never played BF1.

[spiral folio]

Ah well

[patent prism]

I believe you though

[spiral folio]

I did lots of plane sniping there

[patent prism]

You sound like a reasonable young adult who wouldn't go about spreading false rumors about game mechanics.

But hey, I'm just a certified stranger on the internet, fuck do I know.

[spiral folio]

I spent a ton of time shooting planes in bf1 probably an unusual amount

[patent prism]

Sniping out pilots is one of those things I really wanted to learn, just not enough to actually learn it.

[lavish patrol]

Is it me or is Breakaway heavily biased to the US side?

[patent prism]

US spawn up by E1 right?

[lavish patrol]

Yep

[patent prism]

Then no.

I've had pretty much 50/50 with the teams on Breakaway.

[spiral folio]

I really hate how they redrew the sectors too

That server room is bs

Like... you're trying to also convince me the reason russia is here is to take that server room....

Try to get data off that

[patent prism]

Meanwhile, the 6000-pound elephant in the room.

[lavish patrol]

I just realized that Zain is gonna be a self-healing monster on the next update

[patent prism]

(idk imperial units)

[spiral folio]

Gorilla

A 6000lb elephant would be adorable

[next onyx]

Zain will be a nasty anchor.

[lavish patrol]

Self heal on kill AND med pens

[next onyx]

They'll need to adjust medpens so you can't carry three at all times though.

[lavish patrol]

I would prefer a cooldown after every use

[patent prism]

I just stick to Casper, he seems like a respectable and professional individual who knows to keep quiet; except when I am 800m behind enemy lines and accidentally tap Q on a target.
"ENEMY INFANTRY 100 METERS, WEST"

[lavish patrol]

Make med pen a rechargeable tool

[spiral folio]

Yea I'll main lis harder cause of i cant find ammo I'll just fire rockets til i do

[patent prism]

Question; do you guys think subsonic ammo is balanced?

[lavish patrol]

This is just me, but I find no real use with subsonic

[spiral folio]

Weak, lots of drop? Whats left to like

[patent prism]

As a habitual flanker, I use them quite a bit even at longer distances to not show my tracer leading straight back to yours truly.

[spiral folio]

Yea like if you flank far enough the enemy wont even know where its coming from

Unless theyre keyholed

[patent prism]

But I feel like the hit indicator for the target being hit with it needs to be more unspecific.

[spiral folio]

One way you can determine a suppressed snipers location is using cover only visible from specific angles

It has to be suppressed + subsonic to cover all the indicators

[patent prism]

Yeah, I happen to be a little bit of a sniper and reconnaissance nerd and if there is one thing I have learned from reading handbooks from four different militaries on the topic; avoid conspicuous objects when positioning yourself.

[patent prism]

I roll with the suppressor and subsonic already.

[spiral folio]

If the map is narrow then suppressed wont really help a ton

[wide shore]

It’s funny how the heavy suppressor+subsonics just make the hit indicator go from > to )

[umbral island]

You start with 2 right?

[spiral folio]

Its like before WoT added hit direction indicators i would use the impact on the tank to figure direction and elevation. It took time but it worked

So if you got shot youre gonna know like what side

[patent prism]

I think it's an... okay-ish compromise tbh. I think the ) needs to be slightly "wider" to complicate things for the recipient slightly more. But that's speaking as someone who has never really been on the receiving end.

[next onyx]

I'm not sure how many we'll have at one time.

[umbral island]

I never even used them anyways

[spiral folio]

And you can make more at a crafting bench

[wide shore]

I never am either. Cause people don’t really run it

[spiral folio]

Or buy them at the shops

[wide shore]

I don’t think the benefit outweighs the con of using a heavy suppressor and subsonics. Lowering bullet velocity, no tracer, less damage.

[patent prism]

I'm a little uncertain if it's idiocy or brilliance to roll with the suppressor and subsonics in the DM7 (my favorite).

[spiral folio]

If I use em. I fire at the top of like a container and see where it drops before going for somebody

[patent prism]

Because I tend to get pretty good results, and I do enjoy the slight panic and confusion when you hit the enemy.

[spiral folio]

Cause a container is a bit over person height

[wide shore]

If you can make ‘em work. Then it ain’t idiocy

Like the classic “if it’s stupid and it works it ain’t stupid”

[patent prism]

True.

[wide shore]

I run a wrapped suppressor on the AK24 and PBX. Even though it’s not really that beneficial

[patent prism]

Idk if I possess some degree of intuition in terms of where I am going to hit with subsonics, but I usually hit with the first round.

[spiral folio]

Well if you use em all the time its easier to remember

Im pretty good with predicting drop on high arc weapons like the field gun in bf1

[patent prism]

I roll with a suppressor on everything, although not always with subsonics. I think this is partially because I am "damaged" from BF4 where people who use suppressors and know how to use them terrify me, which is why I decided to become one of them.

[patent prism]

Yeah, also a very good point. I guess like most things you just need an adjustment period.

[spiral folio]

Going between like fallout and bf is hard cause fallout is literally hitscan

Cause its a rpg

[wide shore]

I just hate normal suppressors only work at 20+ meters

[tough wolf]

has anything been said about the mid season update yet?

[patent prism]

That is unfortunate, I agree. I wish the normal suppressor was a complete stealth type thing at all distances (kinda like BF4), but I understand why they aren't.

[wide shore]

Other than the fact that it’s coming out this month. No

[tough wolf]

[next onyx]

Oh fuck my life hourglass is in the rotation for infantry conquest.

FUCK THAT.

[wide shore]

I’d understand it more if they put them on guns that benefitted from the 20m thing. The PBX can do range, but why is it it’s only 2 options for suppressors are long range only? It’s an SMG.

Same thing with the PP29

[spiral folio]

I mean if youve ever heard a suppressor

[patent prism]

Yeah, also a good point. Maybe have PCCs have more efficiency from suppressors than full-out rifles.

[spiral folio]

It doesnt make it like movie-quiet unless its a reeeally small round or a mongo size suppressor

[wide shore]

And none of the portal SMGs have “heavy” suppressors

[spiral folio]

Like you can make 22LR movie quiet but its already a round you really dont need earplugs for

[wide shore]

Idrc how it works irl. You can still sound identify somebody regardless. But minimap stealth is different

[spiral folio]

Otherwise if you put a typical suppressor on a 9mm its gonna be like a car door slamming

[patent prism]

Oh definitely not, that's not what I am talking about. By all means keep the sound level but if you're in the middle of a massive firefight with machine guns, vulcans, grenades going off, etc etc it doesn't really matter

I don't really care about the sound volume as much as I do about the minimap stealth.

[spiral folio]

Thats my point is like even suppressed a big rifle is pretty loud

Its just less loud and no flash

Its kinda funny theres suppressors for 5.7s too

[patent prism]

But still quieter than a full on rifle, and I think likely would be drowned out in such environments as previously described.

[spiral folio]

They "do" make subsonic 5.7s but 5.7 has a lot of gas

[patent prism]

The entire point of 5.7 was to go fast as fuck boi wasn't it?

Feels like a subsonic 5.7 is sort of defeating that purpose.

[spiral folio]

Yea like its a fast compact round to replace 9mm. But like it was built for the p90

[patent prism]

Yeah, for the PDW trials in Germany.

[spiral folio]

So like much longer barrel than a 5" pistol or whatever barrel length the p125 has 8-10?

The subsonic 5.7 uses a 62grain bullet as opposed to th 40gr standard

So its way heavier and bigger and less propellant id think

[patent prism]

Yeah