And what merc would take that job
#battlefield-2042
spiral folio
magic bloom
I mean the B-21 raider might actually be able to make it back
radiant prism
I mean maybe you could say that since in the world of 2042 there's a massive satellite communications blackout that the US/Canada would have a much harder time detecting them?
But idk
next onyx
Never been realistic and people should stop looking at it like that.
magic bloom
And considering we’d probably send all the F-22’s we have stationed at the same airfield we have with the B-21
next onyx
Like ok the xm25 was a failure of a project yet we have a futuristic variant of it.
ember nimbus
I mean the B-21 raider might actually be able to make it back
Or just use like a B1
next onyx
We should just stop overthinking that.
magic bloom
I say B-21 cause it’s got better stealth
dire quest
Battlefield is an arcade shooter. Expecting realism, is like expecting realism from cod
magic bloom
spiral folio
There's still lots of ground-based tracking in canada/alaska/WA but who knows maybe theres a blindspot
And then russia also cut the land lines out of the facility
ember nimbus
Battlefield is an arcade shooter. Expecting realism, is like expecting realism f...
It's fun to talk what-ifs sometimes though
still vault
spiral folio
And nobody found it suspicious they lost all internet
ember nimbus
There's still lots of ground-based tracking in canada/alaska/WA but who knows ma...
I don't imagine the earthquake that hit the area did it any favors lol
rapid cipher
Sorry skidder new to using this
ember nimbus
And nobody found it suspicious they lost all internet
That kind of happened with the whole global blackout thing
spiral folio
There would still be continental internet
magic bloom
Yeah but they turned most of the worlds internet back on
spiral folio
Via fiber lines
radiant prism
Yeah global comms were hampered severely
ember nimbus
Yeah global comms were hampered severely
Weren't satellite comms affected too
magic bloom
That’s the story of the South Korean map in this game is they turned the worlds internet back on
radiant prism
Weren't satellite comms affected too
yeah thats what I meant
ember nimbus
Ah
spiral folio
If you assume there's nearly no satellite data/coms yea youd still have ground radio and fiber lines
radiant prism
Honestly here's what we can assume
Given the intro to the map, the US commander calls it an "outrageous move"
spiral folio
Challenging the US emperor in 2042 is outrageous in all forms
magic bloom
America first baby
spiral folio
His possession of the 7 great pepe nfts secures his right to rule
radiant prism
Honestly, it might be a combo of a minor blind spot and bureaucracy/politics slowing down the US response until the RU forces have already landed at the Black Ridge facility
slender hare
where the hell is the "night mode" on spearhead for the event??
it's the same as usual 😭
magic bloom
The trailer just depicted it as darker
radiant prism
Which does appear in game rarely lol
radiant prism
https://youtu.be/gFxmE_ZtRAs
There's no night mode in the trailer lmao
magic bloom
It’s about as spearhead gets when it turns stormy
radiant prism
Yeah
spiral folio
Happens in summer in norway
Why would it get dark ever
A night mode would come like... half a year later
magic bloom
I was gonna say doesn’t it do what Alaska does and only gets dark for like an hour in the summer
Sometimes never getting dark
solid imp
I think people were hit first by the optics dude is wearing at like 0:03 of that video
First impressions are strong ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's the very first thing you see in that vid is a guy wearing what look like nvg
spiral folio
Imagining a winter war IN NORWAY like screw that
spiral folio
Close enough. Finland
radiant prism
War in Europe in general doesn’t tend to go well for the Russians
spiral folio
Russia learned even their own tanks didnt work in the winter there
magic bloom
They’re also bombs 
spiral folio
Which kinda spurred the T-34
radiant prism
The T-34 was spurred by its own manufacturing
spiral folio
Well things like the T-34s wider tracks and simplified desigj
Compared to the T-28 and similar tanks used vs finland
Some t-28s did fight vs germany i think but they were using anything they could
round cipher
worthy inlet
Darwin award
spiral folio
It's [current year] and people still spam chats
pearl ridge
The T-34 cost about the same as a Sherman, assuming that no production shortcuts were made.
radiant prism
Wider tracks were moderately helpful yes but didn’t stop the T-34 from getting stuck in the mud or breaking down every two seconds in Europe
pearl ridge
It was... markedly worse.
radiant prism
The T-34 cost about the same as a Sherman, assuming that no production shortcuts...
Problem is…production shortcuts were made ALL the time during WW2.
spiral folio
T-34 was built like a tractor too
magic bloom
Knowing the Russians they probably made plenty
pearl ridge
Stalin wanted a shitload of tanks, so he got a shitload of tanks.
He never said that they'd have to be good.
spiral folio
One of the reason the T-34 had sloped armor was it took less steel to angle the sides to the turret than if they squared it off
pearl ridge
Every tank requires like four men and an associated logistics chain.
solar obsidian
new gpu installed
pearl ridge
Quantity is very much not a quality if the blasted things are dying in droves.
magic bloom
Long barreled Sherman’s
radiant prism
Especially if that quantity requires ten times more maintenance, fuel, etc due to poor build quality
pearl ridge
The Shermans are the ultimate in quality and quantity all at once.
radiant prism
Not to mention manpower
magic bloom
The Shermans are the ultimate in quality and quantity all at once.
Finally something we agree on
spiral folio
Well the m4 sherman was designed to be shipped by rail and overseas. Then be repaired to avoid needing more be shipped.
The T-34 was designed to be cheap and get a large gun to the front line
pearl ridge
Second-highest crew survivability of the war, beaten only by the mobile bunker that was the Churchill.
spiral folio
Replacing a transmission or engine on a sherman took 20x less time than a panzer4
pearl ridge
Meanwhile, the T-34's crew survivability was absolutely dismal.
Stupid amounts of men burned in their tanks because they couldn't get out of the damn things.
spiral folio
Yea everyone had to leave the tank via the turret on a t-34 i think
magic bloom
I mean plus the giant muzzle brake on the long barreled Sherman was just cool
radiant prism
insert LazerPig T-34 video here
pearl ridge
The Russians like to make a point of how many men they lost in the war, as if it means anything for how much they contributed.
They didn't need to lose that many.
magic bloom
Half of their conscripts probably weren’t even over 16 let’s be honest
pearl ridge
It's always the same obsession with numbers.
Russian military doctrine has always been built around the assumption that their troops just plain suck.
And they never seem to try to actually remedy that problem.
spiral folio
The alternative is a standing army which is expensive
pearl ridge
Their gear is, when actually maintained, decent enough. It always ends up coming down to doctrinal issues.
spiral folio
Russias command system far as i know is really different from the US
Like the usa has NCOs
Russia is either officers or basically privates
pearl ridge
During the Cold War, the west was working under the assumption that the Soviets were just as competent as they were.
Which of course meant that they were shitting themselves, because the Soviets had them outnumbered.
lament plank
After putting a lot of time into Lis and getting T3 with her, I think I’d rather them double the T1 to 800 but change the criteria to be “kills, assists, and vehicles destroyed” with her rocket. So many multi kills on transports but it’s like oh cool that only counts for one…
And so many assists that also mean nothing
chilly jacinth
cope
pearl ridge
Their tanks were good, sometimes even better than our own. Their equipment usually worked fine, their planes were effective enough to rival western designs.
pearl ridge
After putting a lot of time into Lis and getting T3 with her, I think I’d rather...
Yeah, Lis is fucked man
I have to be a damn vulture stealing kills
ember nimbus
Their tanks were good, sometimes even better than our own. Their equipment usual...
Some of their planes even put western planes in check
next onyx
Cy got her done. I do not have the patience for that.
upbeat gust
Russian war gear was quantity over quality incarnate
spiral folio
One tactic with lis + railgun is to hit a vehicle twice with rockets and peck at em with the rail to finish it
pearl ridge
But the actual quality of the soldiers and officers were severely lacking, and we never realised how bad it was until after the Iron Curtain fell.
spiral folio
Its hard to describe russias command system
pearl ridge
I believe it was found that an American battalion commander had the same amount of command assets available to him as what a Soviet regiment would get.
chilly jacinth
very easy to describe
spiral folio
Like US the officer brings orders from above like
"Take this hill"
The NCOs go "ok we need you to go this way, you to go this way, you to go with him"
pearl ridge
Because Soviet and Russian doctrine discourages initiative, they have to micromanage everything, but they're shit at that too
spiral folio
Russia has no NCOs just officers
pearl ridge
Because they don't even have the command capacity to keep track of everything
spiral folio
Yea so you have these career military officers and then given a flood of new recruits with no training
pearl ridge
And that's how you get colonels on the frontlines, screaming at conscripts to get emplacements set up.
And promptly getting punked by snipers.
spiral folio
US has formal training schools too
Russia just trains new recruits at their unit
pearl ridge
And they don't exactly get trained for very long either.
Conscription period's like, what, six months?
spiral folio
So like if youre a tank driver. You learn to drive a tank at the unit. Not in specific training tanks in a controlled environment
spiral folio
I believe their "basic training" is shorter too like 6 weeks to the US 10w
pearl ridge
And then they get dragged back into the army as 'reservists' after years of inactivity and shunted straight back onto the front without so much as a refresher course.
Poor fuckers.
spiral folio
US basic includes like parade/performance formation movements near the end. But 5-6w is just barely "heres how to shoot and set up a tent, heres your rifle front line is that way GL"
pearl ridge
Yeah, breakthrough's chaotic enough with a normal amount of people.
stiff pollen
thank god most people with decent pcs can actually run it now tho
remember at launch this shit could drop below 60 fps
pearl ridge
I never played Operations too much but it definitely worked better than this.
chilly jacinth
128 bt sucks
stiff pollen
yeah we need 256 bt
spiral folio
Musta been somethini saaaid
stiff pollen
frankly i think this game plays better at smaller playercounts but thats me
maybe if the launch maps were better id be more prone to playing 128
chilly jacinth
128 conquest works
stiff pollen
if you want anonymity join twitter 
chilly jacinth
64 conquest on some of the launch maps however is kinda boring
spiral folio
Well like if a game is 8v8
Soon as you fire 8 people know where you specifically are
16v16 probably still 8 know where you are.
32v32
ember nimbus
64C orbital isn't too bad
spiral folio
So by the time you get to 64v64 you can hide in the fact people will be distracted by the chaos
chilly jacinth
that would mean they are in the same place
stiff pollen
WAIT
chilly jacinth
which doesn't happen all the time
stiff pollen
FUCK THIS IS CHAOS
spiral folio
Orbital makes more sense for like a big op
stiff pollen
IT HAS INCREASED PROJECTILE SPEEDS TOO
😭
i was wondering why my ammo boxes flew mach 3
ember nimbus
The old-gen version of the game compresses the maps
pearl ridge
Ammo boxes bounce off friendlies and it's super annoying
Bloody things go flying off.
ember nimbus
64C orbital with the full map wouldn't be too great
willow sky
FUCK THIS IS CHAOS
BREAKTHROUGH CHAOS!!!
spiral folio
Old fps games compress map distances so much a knife kill says its 5m
fluid spoke
I got the drum mag for the k30 finally
willow sky
guys can i try out the vcar
spiral folio
Shots in p4f would say 200m and itd be barely a 100m shot in 2042
fluid spoke
guys can i try out the vcar
why are u asking permission lmao
chilly jacinth
64C orbital with the full map wouldn't be too great
that's not unique to old gen
stiff pollen
remember in bf4 if you wanted a 1200 meter kill youd have to aim up like 5 notches
radiant prism
VCAR is quite good
chilly jacinth
that's how 64 conquest works
stiff pollen
in 2042 for a 1800 meter kill its up 2 notches
willow sky
why are u asking permission lmao
its a forbidden yet unique weapon that rarely anyone touches
about 5% of every single match you've ever had, has someone used a VCAR
pearl ridge
I prefer everything being skewed towards shorter ranges.
ember nimbus
I don't play 64C on the next gen version so I wouldn't know
fluid spoke
its a forbidden yet unique weapon that rarely anyone touches
just use it if u want, I tried out the crossbow and it's so fun to use
pearl ridge
I don't want to pixel hunt in a firefight.
spiral folio
My favorite was like CoD2 and the houses were so tiny. Like half scale or less. Thered still be beds and kitchens sometimes but it was like dwarf houses
radiant prism
in 2042 for a 1800 meter kill its up 2 notches
Tbf BF4 had super exaggerated bullet drop
pearl ridge
Yeah, BF4's gunplay was pretty crap.
spiral folio
Yea like 2042 has actually pretty realistic drop
fluid spoke
Tbf BF4 had super exaggerated bullet drop
I agree, that's one of the reasons I never sniped in the game, I really like sniping in 2042 tho
ember nimbus
Yeah, BF4's gunplay was pretty crap.
I never used snipers so I never had too many issues with the drop
spiral folio
Bf5 had some BS drop
pearl ridge
BF1 had zeroing and shit.
spiral folio
Honestly i didnt use it much
pearl ridge
And it made sense that guns wouldn't be that powerful because they were old.
fluid spoke
never played bf5, or bf1 cause I can't play games set in the past tbh
radiant prism
BF1 also had sweet spot though lmao
ember nimbus
BF1 had zeroing and shit.
It also had that one-shot kill zone
pearl ridge
And half of them looked like they were about to fall apart.
spiral folio
Well old rifles did have those bridge sights
ember nimbus
Between a specific range some of the bolt-action rifles would oneshot to the chest or something like that
spiral folio
People use a lot of the same rounds today as ww1 actually
pearl ridge
Sweet spots were a good thing dammit, they promoted using different rifles for different positioning
fluid spoke
I think that's fair tbh
spiral folio
.303, 30-06, 9mm, 45acp...
stiff pollen
you mean how guns with no sweet spots sucked
radiant prism
It also removes skill from sniping all together
ember nimbus
People use a lot of the same rounds today as ww1 actually
More refined versions of them
radiant prism
By making guns stupid powerful at arbitrary ranges
stiff pollen
like the carcano, an iconic rifle, was never used cause: dlc weapon and it had no sweetspot
pearl ridge
There's just as much skill involved in using a bolt action at thirty metres.
spiral folio
Not even always
pearl ridge
Like, it's dangerous work.
spiral folio
9mm luger is 9mm luger
fluid spoke
there's a sniper in bf2042 that one shots to the chest, but it's really bulky and slow so it's a good trade off imo
spiral folio
The ntw is a joke
fluid spoke
yeah, I forgot the name
pearl ridge
But in 2042, bolt actions are fucking useless at anything closer than 150
Because every damn weapon, even SMGs, will fuck you up
fluid spoke
The ntw is a joke
the bullet drop is horrible on it
spiral folio
They claim the NTW is 20mm but like its damage to vehicles sucks
ember nimbus
The NTW isn't a sniper rifle
vocal zenith
dear god flying helisis fkn hard
fluid spoke
Because every damn weapon, even SMGs, will fuck you up
I love using the smgs
spiral folio
It should 1shot kill to a hand hit let alone a body shot
pearl ridge
The NTW is basically an AT rifle from BFV.
vocal zenith
even with joystick , throttle and pedals its really difficult
pearl ridge
See it as a reskin of the Boys.
ember nimbus
It's an anti-material rifle
fluid spoke
They claim the NTW is 20mm but like its damage to vehicles sucks
bro ikr? it's so annoying
radiant prism
Sweet spot is a good idea on paper, but just is unfair and annoying in practice.
fluid spoke
It's an anti-material rifle
spiral folio
Cause the "heavy mg" doesnt damage tanks either
pearl ridge
Low velocity (ironic given how it's supposed to work), one shot within a hundred metres, can ding vehicles but really isn't worth it
fluid spoke
that's fair
radiant prism
Two snipers could see each other at the same time, acquire their target at the same time, fire at the same time, hit the same place at the same time, but one could kill the other because one was in a magical one shot zone and the other wasn't. Its just poor balance.
ember nimbus
I thought the NTW 50 was a 50 cal
spiral folio
Right?
vocal zenith
give the ntw HE rounds
pearl ridge
Poor balance? It's all a matter of positioning.
The weapon works best at its intended range.
spiral folio
Makes sense for it to be 50 with how weak it is.
But a dev claims its 20 which is plainly stupid
pearl ridge
And those sweetspots were really quite narrow, only like five metres.
ember nimbus
Why didn't they call it the NTW 20 then🗿
radiant prism
Poor balance? It's all a matter of positioning.
Positioning isn't always something that can be controlled.
spiral folio
The 20mm version of the NTW wighs 60lbs
The m2 .50cal HMG weighs 65lbs
chilly jacinth
Why didn't they call it the NTW 20 then🗿
because the real gun is names that afaik
pearl ridge
The Martini-Henry was special because it had a really wide sweetspot range, in exchange for it being ridiculously slow.
radiant prism
It really wasn't that ridiculously slow
Its also a sniper, meaning being slow is much less of a detriment
spiral folio
A .50cal sniper would be way better cause youd stoll damage jeeps and light stuff but better velocity too
pearl ridge
So you needed to be in close to make the best use of it.
stiff pollen
ntw 50 but it shoots hotdogs
vocal zenith
does 20mm have slow proj velocity?
fluid spoke
ntw 50 but it shoots hotdogs
that needs to be in the game
vocal zenith
irl i mean
pearl ridge
It's the sniper equivalent of a double-barrel shotgun: you only get one shot, and you have to make it count.
spiral folio
I bet m95 is the next portal weapon
pearl ridge
And it's fun.
spiral folio
Or hope
chilly jacinth
does 20mm have slow proj velocity?
its fast
pearl ridge
God can they just get the M30 Drilling in this game or something
spiral folio
One real sniper id want os the SnipeX Alligator or T-rex from Ukraine. 14.5mm high velocity.
stiff pollen
m95 is being added to aow soon
radiant prism
Can we get a cool breach loader
pearl ridge
Or one of those fancy double-barrels that is in Rainbow Six
stiff pollen
i think probably this season or next
radiant prism
That would be cool I think
chilly jacinth
does 20mm have slow proj velocity?
about 1k m/s
pearl ridge
Just something that lets me dab on motherfuckers with two shells and a sweet smoky reload
spiral folio
The Snipex alligator is estimated effective to 7000m and still damage material to 3000m
fluid spoke
would it matter thatch tho since shotguns are doodoo balls in 2042 lol
radiant prism
would it matter thatch tho since shotguns are doodoo balls in 2042 lol
The NVK-S122 would like to have a word with you
fluid spoke
and don't get me wrong the shotgun u unlock on the BP is so fucking fun to use but u don't get enough ammo
chilly jacinth
12m auto says hi
pearl ridge
Worst reload and only saved by firerate, which it shares with the Saiga
spiral folio
Whats also funny is the SnipeX alligator holds MORE rounds than the NTW20, shoots further, and weighs 30% as much
pearl ridge
I have two kills with it. That's how bad it is.
spiral folio
Its like 6ft long too
fluid spoke
Guns with slow reloads can be learned
just have to learn to get behind cover when u relod
spiral folio
The ntws moronically small mags
radiant prism
I have two kills with it. That's how bad it is.
Oh please. You didn't even give it a chance.
vocal zenith
lol
radiant prism
I would respect your opinion more if you had 100 kills.
But 2? You didn't even try.
spiral folio
The ntws hv rounds are 4 round mags
chilly jacinth
im on the road to t1 with the nvk
spiral folio
Almost single shot at that point
chilly jacinth
its pretty damn good
spiral folio
And yet it does crap damage to vehicles and worse to infantry
And the velocity is garbage for air units
Now that the railgun is out. Seeing a NTW is like seeing a zebra on a city street
vocal zenith
i still see sudance players running ntw
radiant prism
I usually only see people running around quick scoping with it up close
spiral folio
If they massively buffed it vs vehicles and made it bipod fire only. I could see it useable
radiant prism
NTW snipers are rare nowadays
spiral folio
Why?
radiant prism
Railgun exists, probably
spiral folio
Like the rail is exactly the ntw but with none of the drawbacks
radiant prism
Or people got tired of using it
spiral folio
The only bad part about the rail is the charge
spiral folio
Yea but you can get 4 rounds off to the 1
pearl ridge
It's fast enough that it doesn't matter
spiral folio
And then it holds 20
radiant prism
The benefit of the Rorsch is its fire rate and capacity
pearl ridge
And if it comes down to it you can just slap in the stream capacitor and blaze them down
radiant prism
(As well as velocity)
spiral folio
And! And! You dont have to chug a lug that damn bolt each time you reload
pearl ridge
Christ that thing should not be this versatile.
radiant prism
Its really not that good.
vocal zenith
yea the stream capacitor still req you to charge before firing
radiant prism
The stream capacitor is a worse AK with wacky recoil making it near useless outside close range, and you might as well forget the burst capacitor exists
vocal zenith
most of the time i get killed lol
spiral folio
The only real advantage the ntw has is the 8x or 10x scope and "maybe" the lack of charge delay.
But then cons
Velocity/drop
Ammo capacity
Its visually huge
Reload time is insane
Bolt speed is slow af
And 8x 10x scope glare
radiant prism
4 5 rounds bursts that can't even one-burst kill
vocal zenith
you gonna have to prefire every engagement
spiral folio
If you want to snipe infantry, the 2nd sniper or GOL are way better than the ntw
If you want to snipe vehicles the rail is vastly superior
radiant prism
Remember the P-06 from Black Ops 3? Take that, chuck it in a blender, make it play dating simulators off of itch.io for 3 days straight and give it a foot fetish and you've got the Rorsch Mk.4 Burst Capacitor.
willow sky
if you wanna be a CoD quickscoper 1 shot guy then ntw all the way XD
spiral folio
Yea that too
On top of the rail being just better vs vehicles. If you had to go close-ish range. It has burst mode.
Ntw
Better be good at a pistol
radiant prism
Good think the G57 exists
I practically main that thing on burst fire
Feel like John Wick with it
spiral folio
I do pretty well with the p125
But i think they should add HP rounds to it
spiral folio
Also 20rd should be standard size mags for the p125 and like 28 or 30 should be extended
5.7 rounds are seriously pencil diameter for the brass
14rd would be tiny
6 rounds adds like barely half an inch
Or more festively, theyre the diameter of a standard candycane
tacit sorrel
C2 on spearhead is annoying asf on attack
spare quest
skill issue
solid imp
And! And! You dont have to chug a lug that damn bolt each time you reload
🤣 I see your crusade against the NTW bolt action is alive and well
spiral folio
It wouldn't be even as bad if the game didnt bug out so much and re-do the bolt animation
Like if you interrupt thst bolt at 99% done where it wasnt 100.000% closed
It does the whole gd animation all over
pearl ridge
I saw the attackers get past C sector once.
They were so exhausted from the experience that they ran out of tickets about three minutes later in D.
spiral folio
Part i dont get is only bolt rifles do that
If you interrupt reloading a lis rocket? Picks up right where it left off
Not sure if it does it for other rifles and smgs, dont thiiink lmgs do it
radiant prism
Yeah most other guns have partial reloads
clever delta
I hope BF 2042 will go up to Season 10 since only 1 map is released per season
Then the game will have 16 original maps and 6 portal maps
spiral folio
But like
Fire a shot
-bolt- (ok no ammo chambered)
Interrupt to change scopes
-bolt- (still 0?)
Change ammo type
-bolt- (ok its hot)
Run
-bolt- (and.. we eject a round for no reason?)
But at the end of all that 0 ammo is ready somehow
clever delta
they must be making money since the population seemed to increase after the free weekend so i guess it will increase after new seasons
solid imp
interrupted lcmg reload resets completely even when the new box is loaded
radiant prism
wack
solid imp
lol
spiral folio
Wait..... did i reload yet?
Eeeeh juuust to be sure lets get a new box of 200rds
radiant prism
me reloading at 199/200
spiral folio
Hit reload by mistake with 90% left
Interrupt by switching weapons and back
[Frakesneverhappened.gif]
spiral folio
Bf1 got weird about reloads
spiral folio
It both would and wouldnt remember reloading progress sometimes
radiant prism
And I've been active
Its just
ugh
like what the hell is the threshold
Because I've been told so often that I'm just below the threshold
And I'll get it any day now
But no
So
I'm totally just ranting right now to try and pad that stat
because ugh
losing regular was such a stupid idea to make possible on this discord
yes im salty
angy gecc
:(
I was regular for over a year
58,881 messages
spiral folio
Oh regular exists
spiral folio
Whos ass do i have to give an ammo box to for it
Be like
"hey alex. Its totally sane and normal for the ntw to be 20mm" -wiiink-
pine roost
Gecc will always be a regular in my eyes
iron vigil
now now what’s the magic word?
pine roost
I paid for it since I’m earning my own wages now, and at the time I was having fun with the game
solid imp
@radiant prism you can open a case with modmail
radiant prism
<@471122014846058506> you can open a case with modmail
I have a few times now
Whole lotta nothin
solid imp
it's still better than filling a whole screen with ranting here
I have to scroll up quite a ways to get back to the topic of the channel lol
radiant prism
Dude, this channel is off topic all the time
If you’re gonna enforce it enforce it
I don’t wanna start a fight but that’s about the biggest “go fuck yourself” you could’ve given me
chilly jacinth
cope
radiant prism
chilly jacinth
solid imp
asking you to open a case through the official means is hardly sending that message
radiant prism
When I’ve done that numerous times, telling me its better than talking about it on the server sure feels like it if I’m honest
kindred flint
you can lose regular?
its true, happened to me
tacit sorrel
My squadmates had 16 combined kills after a full match yikes
spiral folio
Sue them
tacit sorrel
Bf is hard apparently
spiral folio
It means regular digestive tract
So be sure to @ the mods every time you use the toilet
wise zodiac
So be sure to @ the mods every time you use the toilet
Please don't.
tacit sorrel
I wish I could flush these bads down the toilet
quaint vector
I just arrived... And that is this..
spiral folio
Talkin bout terlets an bein regular
tacit sorrel
Time to nope out losing all flags 🤦🏻♂️
wise zodiac
!jumbo
tender pendantBOT
charred stag
I don't understand. What's the regular role even do?
wise zodiac
!!regular
tender pendantBOT
The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.
spiral folio
Lets everyone know you poop on time
wise zodiac
You can no longer change what color you appear, so it's just to post images/gifs and using of some bot commands.
wise zodiac
Lets everyone know you poop on time
Let's not, please.
spiral folio
False advertising
quaint vector
Also, let's keep this chat to BF2042 please
timid mauve
Some yall need to rank up to anime girls. Much more eye candy
spiral folio
Always has been
charred stag
Do you guys think they'll add anymore ghillie skins to Casper? I've been wanting him to have one more similar to the modern warfare suits
timid mauve
Wow my post was horrible timing
spiral folio
Hopefully add less ghillie suits since almost no maps need them
quaint vector
Do you guys think they'll add anymore ghillie skins to Casper? I've been wanting...
Maybe in S4, S5 👀
spiral folio
He needs a suit made of trashbags or one painted container color
One made to look like rocks
timid mauve
I hate blue camo
charred stag
I mean in cod the suit never really made you blend so I'm pretty much just wanting it for cosmetic
tacit sorrel
Wtf is happening I can’t get a single lobby that my team is holding atleast 2 flags
charred stag
Maybe in S4, S5 👀
I hope soooo
Also,didn't they say we were also getting a breakaway rework?
tacit sorrel
Hourglass needs one the most
spiral folio
Camo does work visually. The worst i think is the stark white one
brittle forge
Imo Casper’s Praetorian fighter pilot outfit is peak and won’t be topped
charred stag
cough world ender
arctic grove
Imo Casper’s Praetorian fighter pilot outfit is peak and won’t be topped
Skin is only good when piloting a heli or jet
charred stag
^
brittle forge
Nah I like it normally
arctic grove
*cough* world ender
Tuskin raider skin for desert maps
brittle forge
Sure it isn’t an “infantry” outfit but I just like that gear
arctic grove
Casper has some top tier skins tbh
charred stag
He really does
arctic grove
Sure it isn’t an “infantry” outfit but I just like that gear
I agree. Its one of my favorites
charred stag
I got him to mastery but I stopped using his tier 1 because he's got many better skins
brittle forge
Which is a shame cause I don’t like playing Casper all that much, his radar pulse makes me get jumpy whenever literally anyone gets close
arctic grove
The helmet is cool
seems like a destiny copy/paste helmet
spiral folio
Theres some weird cowboy outfit ive seen. Looks like the team fortress sniper
charred stag
That's for Mackay
brittle forge
McKay’s preseason cosmetic yeah
arctic grove
Woody Mackay got alot on skins too
spiral folio
Further proving he should be recon
arctic grove
Theres some weird cowboy outfit ive seen. Looks like the team fortress sniper
Mackay looked exactly like Scout back in launch
brittle forge
Snipin’s a good job mate just better than everything else
- McKay, probably
tacit sorrel
McKay op
spiral folio
Mackay looked exactly like Scout back in launch
Even weirder I knew a guy that looks like mackay
... named mackay
In the army
brittle forge
Was it the Canadian army
spiral folio
I dont remember if he had a grapple
Maybe he moved to canada by 2042
I dont remember much of the 2030s
arctic grove
Even weirder I knew a guy that looks like mackay
... named mackay
In the army
Checks out tbh
spiral folio
Itd be funny if it was him as the character model
arctic grove
You need to show him battlefield 2042
And tell him to say his famous lines
It be pure meme gold
spiral folio
Id need to look him up again but yea
cursive pawn
3 kills first game wooo
nova lily
Guys should i buy the game? I got an rtx 2060 with max q design and intel core i7 10750h 16gb ram 144hz
spiral folio
Well you can run it
arctic grove
Guys should i buy the game? I got an rtx 2060 with max q design and intel core i...
Yes buy it when its on sale
nova lily
Yes i can run it but i tested it and i had a bad performance like not very bad but average 60-70 fps with low settings
nova lily
Yes buy it when its on sale
it is on sale
nova lily
Yes but the problem is that i get shit performance
hollow pawn
when is the rework for breakaway supposed to come out?
someone said later this month but I figured I'd just double check
arctic grove
Yes but the problem is that i get shit performance
ok fair. Maybe wait until you upgrade your pc
arctic grove
someone said later this month but I figured I'd just double check
Yes I believe so
hollow pawn
awesome, thanks!
pine roost
Oh yeah I forgot there’s meant to be another patch this month
arctic grove
I believe we got one for S1 and 2 but I can’t remember seeing one for this season
hollow pawn
Yeah, Just gotten back into the game after about 7 months of not being so, and it looks a bit chaotic to me, without clear direction lol
not complaining though, I heard they're reworking the operators into a proper class system
season 4 or something
spiral folio
i aint gonna upgrade anything
Youve got better than ive got and i run on low fine
arctic grove
Yes they won’t be able to freely use gadgets anymore
Also weapon proficiencies so hopefully despite not locking them you’ll see recons with snipers, supports with LMGs, etc
spiral folio
Yea the class nerf is coming and more rules will be added to limit builds
People begged for more rules
pine roost
I’ll be running assault and sniper anyway :)
arctic grove
It can’t be called a nerf if this is how it’s always been
spiral folio
Cause they think itll conjure up teamwork
pine roost
Tbh I changed my mind on weapon restrictions
spiral folio
Its a nerf when things are taken away
kindred flint
Once you find out where the shooting button is, it gets easier
ok I expelled some air from my nose reading this one ngl 
hollow pawn
I’ll be running assault and sniper anyway :)
wait, we getting 2 main weapons? 👀
like cod overkill perk?
spiral folio
Nope
hollow pawn
ah damn
kindred flint
Assault the class
spiral folio
Worsr
arctic grove
What’s being taken away is poor teamwork incentives and balance heavily on infantry’s side against vehicles
pine roost
No I mean the assault class with a sniper gun
hollow pawn
ah, i see
arctic grove
Which function as a core point of Battlefield, and exist as entire possible play styles
kindred flint
Smh...get your terminology right
spiral folio
Like if you dont use a class specific weapon you'll suffer some weird penalty
hollow pawn
I know it's not realistic, but i'd love the overkill perk in battlefield, so many oppertunities
arctic grove
Overkill is realistic
hollow pawn
Like if you dont use a class specific weapon you'll suffer some weird penalty
odd lol
arctic grove
It’s possible for a person to carry a rifle and shotgun
spiral folio
Ie if you use a sniper rifle with a non-recon i think thst ones is "you cant hold breath as long"
Which isnt so bad really
nova lily
Youve got better than ive got and i run on low fine
How much fps?
arctic grove
Holding breath is a weird gimmick pro
hollow pawn
hm, honestly expected the penalties to be worse then that
spiral folio
I think assaults move faster with assault class weapons
arctic grove
Hopefully they add some actual incentive besides breath holding
hollow pawn
yeah, people won't care much for holding breath
spiral folio
I dont know 100% for em all
pine roost
Holding breath makes no difference whatsoever
Honestly I didn’t even know the game had sight sway
pine roost
I think assaults move faster with assault class weapons
They ads faster
spiral folio
The worst part is like ammo boxes for me
hollow pawn
I like having freedom to choose whatever weapon I want with whatever gadget, but I do realise that a class system like battlefield 4 is necessary for the game and a healthy way forward, even though I'm going to be losing a bit of freedom because of it
spiral folio
Cause support heroes suck
pine roost
Supports get better accuracy with bipods, assault get faster ads, recons get bigger lungs and i don’t know about engineers
arctic grove
The way I see it holding your breath doesn’t matter when you can slide jump away anyways
pine roost
But I’ll try to check all this because that’s just from memory
hollow pawn
hm
spiral folio
I guess maybe sniping with falk and self healing all the time wouldnt be too bad
hollow pawn
bipods work anyway with accuracy so I don't know how they're planning on giving it extra boosts on top of that
arctic grove
I guess maybe sniping with falk and self healing all the time wouldnt be too bad
Well that’s the funny part too
spiral folio
But minigun and barrier guy would suck for it
arctic grove
Unique character models should not have abilities attached to them in this franchise
But we won’t see that removed till the next game
spiral folio
Yea i dont care for specialists. I dont like classes
I hate specialists being tied to classes most of all
arctic grove
They should’ve just been cosmetic
But what better way to force mtx sales than do what they did
spiral folio
Yea thats ny opinion too
hollow pawn
yeah, specialists should exclusively be cosmetic tbh
that's what I was expecting them to change with the upcoming rework
spiral folio
The people who think classes will magically conjure up teamwork are beyond naive
arctic grove
I’d say the way they balanced 64 or 128 specialists is fine I just think they’re too invasive for most of the community to really get over
pine roost
The specialist gadgets themselves are too potent and their personalities are draining
arctic grove
I mean it’s almost impressive you don’t see one specialist that just dominates the shit out of everyone else
Except… paik
hollow pawn
I'm just happy a lot of the maps are shrinking in size
arctic grove
but pre nerf paik
hollow pawn
no more running around for 5 minutes every time I spawn in to just get killed by a sniper in an open field
nova lily
Also in big maps i felt like there was not enough action
hollow pawn
idk
spiral folio
Recons specialists are another reason i really really hate specialists being bound to classes.
Cause recons specialists suck
arctic grove
I’d say the way they balanced 64 or 128 specialists is fine I just think they’re...
Its Invasive becuase Battlefield as a core game doesnt need specialists. Its always been generic soldiers with classes
spiral folio
Rao is the okayest recon
Only cause he can disable a vehicle when somehow it gets close
arctic grove
Rao is just your stereotypical Indian troller
pine roost
I mean a turret that automatically targets things, wallhacks, I hate those things in games
arctic grove
and Tech guy
spiral folio
I really hate that all the recons special crap is close range too
arctic grove
I hate future / near future being used to justify a wall hack character or ability
That shit just sucks in general
I guess it depends on how it’s balanced and functions though
spiral folio
Oh and then on top of that they get the spawm beacon... hyrg...cause i LOVE people spawning near me as it is
Yea near future you get more invention bs
Like crap that we wont see for 100 years ie railgun tanks
arctic grove
2042s railgun tank isn’t too bad
pine roost
Gives you more freedom to experiment but most of the time it just breaks balance
arctic grove
I heard it’s really only an effective anti vehicle counter
spiral folio
Unless the railgun tank has a giant optimus prime trailer that appears behind it whenever it needs it, theres no way we'll make capacitors 50x smaller to power that gun
pine roost
The m5 has great range and is far easier to land than the dumbfire launchers in 4 so countering them is easy
spiral folio
Not in 20 years and build it and field it
Won't happen
20 years itll be STILL the abrams
pine roost
Although if these proposed lis changes come into play I’ll be a happy chappie
spiral folio
Might have a laser pod on top but still an abrams
pine roost
Oh yeah that reminds me about the vehicle changes
spiral folio
What lis changes
pine roost
Really looking forward to those
arctic grove
I think the AbramsX is phasing out the Abrams around 2040, I read an article a couple years back saying how they planned to field it’s replacement then
arctic grove
Although if these proposed lis changes come into play I’ll be a happy chappie
What are they changing?
arctic grove
Oh yeah that reminds me about the vehicle changes
Tanks are already weak as it is and it probably will get nerfed again
spiral folio
Yea a gussied up abrams, maybe more armor maybe bigger gun
Not a frigin railgun
arctic grove
One of the cool things about the AbramsX is it’s engine
It blows my mind how 64 players cant destroy 1 weak tank. Seems like a skill issue to me.
spiral folio
Yea but what are they screwing up for Lis
arctic grove
The shit could be like almost completely silent while running
pine roost
What lis changes
It was something that Sam suggested here a little while ago, it’s not at all concrete, simply a brainstorm but they suggested changing it so that instead of live tracking vehicles through walls, you get no tracking but instead upon hitting a vehicle provides a team wide ping as to its location
arctic grove
From what I heard anyway
spiral folio
Oh thats not so bad
arctic grove
It was something that Sam suggested here a little while ago, it’s not at all con...
Sounds good
spiral folio
I mean if they get rid of like..... the ability for transport helicopters to hide behind enemy lines
Otherwise helo pilots can burn in hell
pine roost
I’d really appreciate that. A greater reward for landing the shot but you actually have to have a semblance of gamesense to hit them
Getting hit behind solid cover because they all see you is just irritating. But then someone who can land the shot can make life even more hell potentially
magic bloom
I mean the Abrams X Is probably just going to be a test tank to try out new tech
Why did it just now update the chat
Discord what are you on today
spiral folio
The prototype shown was as likely to be produced as a chrysler concept vehicle
pine roost
I don’t know what any of this means :)
spiral folio
Yea but with just olde tyme composite armor and a 105mm gun
Basically an angular m60
pine roost
That’s a building somewhere isn’t it?
spiral folio
The m1a1 has a ton more armor than the m1
magic bloom
The XM-1 was a prototype Abrams pretty much
spiral folio
The problem with modern stuff in a game like WT is the stuff that made it modern wont exist.. ie the targeting computer
magic bloom
Yeah
spiral folio
Aiming in tanks on bf2042 is pretty much ww2 style too
magic bloom
That’s why I’m kinda skeptical when they get to stuff like the F-35 in a few years
pine roost
Bf4 be like
magic bloom
That game was weird about the F35
spiral folio
Yea like
"-anti air
-anti ground
Pick one!"
Whats in the internal launch bays
"Internal what what?"
pine roost
Accurate guns? Nah
spiral folio
Yea 20 years in the future f35 has a musket
I didnt buy 3 and 4 cause bf2 was already modern
Got 3 free when 4 came out...eh
Actual future combat unfortunately is very automatic
Like they have a. 50cal rifle that has self aiming rounds
Real abrams can hit targets at 2 miles at full speed and thats 80s tech
pine roost
I love titanfall 2 to bits and that’s future
arctic grove
I just hope all of our tech can still be properly serviced during war
From the F35 to AbramsX assuming it’s actually adopted
F35 as is is apparently really expensive and time consuming to maintain compared to older F18s, F15s, etc
arctic grove
Reliability is key
spiral folio
The whole "power pack" system the US uses since like the m48
The T29 was the first to test the idea of the power pack
Where you can just disconnect the operational stuff and all of it lifts out
I could pull a strykers out in 30min
arctic grove
Where you can just disconnect the operational stuff and all of it lifts out
Oh yeah Ive seen that before
I didn’t know that’s what it was called though
Or that it was that old since I think the T29 is a 50s tank
spiral folio
T29 was proposed for ww2 to fight the tigers and king tigers
But it never got beyond the prototype
The m48 m60 adopted the power pack system later i think
And torsion bar suspension
The m26 pershing also added torsion bar but i dont know if it used the power pack thing
nova lily
So guys should i buy the game rn? Like be honest
fiery shoal
So guys should i buy the game rn? Like be honest
on sale for sure
spiral folio
Didnt you ask like an hour ago
fiery shoal
imo its easily a 7/10 game now and anyone saying otherwise probably has stupid reasoning for it
nova lily
imo its easily a 7/10 game now and anyone saying otherwise probably has stupid r...
I mean i played it like 1 month ago and big maps had little action
also the game has bad optimization
midnight depot
imo its easily a 7/10 game now and anyone saying otherwise probably has stupid r...
Inclined to agree. Still has a long ways to go, but certainly not a terrible game now. The portal was definitely a feature I overlooked and it's ended up being a nice feature
lone axle
So guys should i buy the game rn? Like be honest
Eh, it is on sale for a lot cheaper, it is your chance to. In my opinion I would get it for such a cheap price ($26CAD)
idk about USD
and stuff
pine roost
Just needs a few more bug fixes and balance changes to make it something I main
nova lily
Eh, it is on sale for a lot cheaper, it is your chance to. In my opinion I would...
20 euro
fiery shoal
I mean i played it like 1 month ago and big maps had little action
almost all the bad maps have been reworked and are a lot smaller now. game has great optimization.. i mean.. what other 128 player combined arms large scale warfare games are you playing to compare it to in the first place?
nova lily
almost all the bad maps have been reworked and are a lot smaller now. game has g...
battlebit remastered
midnight depot
Only game that's close to the scale is either battlebit or PS2, and PS2 is kinda awful rn
pine roost
Arma with its -35 fps
fiery shoal
battlebit remastered
yea you can count the polygons on the map... dont be ridiculous
if youre gonna keep having shit meme takes then theres no point in actually talking to you
lone axle
20 euro
Really the only thing I do not like about the game is the lack of cover on most maps.
fiery shoal
"HuR Dur ItS tHe SamE ThInG"
pine roost
Battlebit could at least add some ambient occlusion
lone axle
Speaking of Battlefield, I will play it and pray that I find a match on Breakthrough that does not have the map Exposure.
pine roost
Praying to not play that map only ensures you will definitely play it next
solid crag
Could I be a douche and sit in a vehicle for passenger assists?
pine roost
I miss the option to select your map
spiral folio
Battlebit seemed a lot more frantic
lone axle
Add a server browser
oml Dice
"Dice most likely will not add a server browser"
there is one for portal
why not base game
pine roost
I guess it’s based on how they have their servers set up
It’s not based around making a server then it staying open and people join, but instead creating a server while people connect and deleting it once it’s over
spiral folio
Yea never trust a dev saying never
lone axle
Yea never trust a dev saying never
I dont trust it
pine roost
I know nothing about networking but I guess it’s just too difficult to do now
spiral folio
Never just means "we're not currently thinking about it"
lone axle
I feel like they wouldve added one by now
spiral folio
Or rather we're not currently telling you if we are
lone axle
Also, textures used to load right when you get into a game. Now there is smth wrong with the textures.
sometimes your gun just doesnt show
pine roost
Probably due to what drive you have the game installed on
lone axle
Meta weapon fr
spiral folio
Meme weapon
lone axle
Probably due to what drive you have the game installed on
always had it on one drive
lmao
upbeat sluice
Meta weapon fr
They're so much better than frags it's not even funny
pine roost
always had it on one drive
Don’t tell me you’ve actually got the game installed on OneDrive
upbeat sluice
Except a frag can work around a corner
Frags are for area denial in this game mostly
lone axle
Don’t tell me you’ve actually got the game installed on OneDrive
what?
no
I have always had it on my Hard Drive
spiral folio
Frags are like
Enemy in a house, throw it in less risk
lone axle
One Drive
pine roost
Ah, that’ll probably be it then
upbeat sluice
Frags are like
Enemy in a house, throw it in less risk
So you deny them the area of the house.
pine roost
Hard drive load times can be hella slow, textures would take much longer to load than on an ssd
spiral folio
Area denial is like... a sniper on a ridge preventing enemy from using an area
No
Thats literally not what area denial means
upbeat sluice
Area denial is like... a sniper on a ridge preventing enemy from using an area
It's literally what it means
spiral folio
No
upbeat sluice
Great argument
spiral folio
Eliminating an enemy is not area denial thats just combat
lone axle
Hard drive load times can be hella slow, textures would take much longer to load...
My ssd only has 114GB my HHD has 3TB
spiral folio
Area denial means denying them an area entirely like no entry. Ie like an advantageous position that has total authority over an area.
upbeat sluice
Area denial means denying them an area entirely like no entry. Ie like an advan...
And you can do that with frags
Especially with scatter
spiral folio
Ie a flak tower preventing any planes from entering an area.
A dug in MG preventing an enemy from entering a valley
No
pine roost
Lucky
upbeat sluice
Simply attacking an enemy is not area denial
That's not what I said but whatever you need to be an annoying contrarian
lone axle
my least favourites
spiral folio
I'm just helping you learn the definitions
Grenades are best at close range indirect combat
Ie tossing into a trench you cant see into
Or past cover
Knives in the magical incarnation in the game are purely direct combat
thick shadow
I got a question
spiral folio
Since you cant captain america them off a wall
nova lily
@fiery shoalOne has 250 players + realistic destruction while the other one doesnt have 250 players and has shit performance
pine roost
I’d consider a grenade area denial
spiral folio
Well youre wrong
pine roost
You throw one, if enemies don’t leave that area they die. Area denial
spiral folio
Thats not denial thats just attacking
pine roost
Incendiaries even more so
spiral folio
For it to be area denial youd have to keep up the continual threat
Ie a grenade launcher threatening a region
pine roost
Or a team using grenades
spiral folio
As in continually denying use of an area
No
Like it has a different definition
Its regional control not "attack the enemy once"
pine roost
You just mentioned a grenade launcher as area denial 
Yet grenades themselves are different?
pine roost
I still consider the premise of attacking area denial
spiral folio
It isnt
pine roost
You push into an area and clear space by eliminating enemies. Controlling angles and denying their access
spiral folio
Like a sniper team or MG team controlling a valley is area denial
nova lily
Yeah i dont think ima buy the game since big maps got no action at all + shit performance
spiral folio
Cause its used to control the enemy movements. Not simply attacking them
pine roost
But defence is considered area denial
spiral folio
If youre like "i cant use the left flank. Enemy has too much cover fire there" thats area denial
If youre just "ah one baddie in the house" thats not really area denial as it is just like...a house
Blow it up
spiral folio
They really seem to have made grenades weak in this
pine roost
Whatever, to me it’s the same thing
I run into house, kill people in the house and any who enter house
spiral folio
I mean if your nco goes
"Dont go that way. Enemy has area denial there" you probably wont think theres ein guy
dusk hedge
Guys where can i find 2 xp tokens in the Menu of 2042
magic bloom
Just had a 43 and 3 tanker game
spiral folio
Its harder in bf games to really control an area that way cause you can hit some jerk with 5 rounds and he just kneels for a bit and heals
regal lantern
I can not unlock repair system on the m1a5
magic bloom
I can not unlock repair system on the m1a5
Have you been doing it with bots
spiral folio
I can not unlock repair system on the m1a5
Play solo for 2 minutes
spiral folio
... you have it. You just havent equipped it
spiral folio
Theres no way you dont have it
dusk hedge
Guys where can i find 2 xp tokens in the Menu of 2042
Pls ?
spiral folio
Maybe yohre playing a no progression server
regal lantern
its official portal match
pine roost
Does it say you’ve reached the kill requirement?
regal lantern
from the main menu
magic bloom
We’re you actually playing the M1A5
regal lantern
I have mastery 3 with it but for repair system its still 0/20
dusk hedge
from the main menu
Where
pine roost
Strange
spiral folio
Gerp.
Bet he's not in the m1a5
regal lantern
can I post pictures somewhere?
regal lantern
it says full xp
its literally in the portal menu
the first entry
but regardless of that
pine roost
Could dm it to me and I’ll post it
spiral folio
Full xp but it might not be the actual vehicle you think
magic bloom
Tank superiority is with the 2042 vehicles I just checked
regal lantern
correct
spiral folio
Is it vehicle kills or just kills
upbeat sluice
Mmmhmmm halfway to tier 1 on the throwing knives
pine roost
Try getting a kill in a solo match and see if that updates
regal lantern
one sec
magic bloom
Otherwise you’ll have to wait til the next update of the game and it should fix it
regal lantern
I thought you can't unlock anything in solo
spiral folio
Solo conquest for spamming vehicle kills is probably best
pine roost
You can, which is useful
regal lantern
Otherwise you’ll have to wait til the next update of the game and it should fix ...
I have it since release sadly 😦
spiral folio
You cant do battlepass missions besides xp
But like kill counts and portal unlocks yes
magic bloom
I do Love being a tanker I Found my true vehicles in this game
upbeat sluice
Wonder if they'll tweak/nerf the railgun
magic bloom
Maybe
spiral folio
Ammo/class nerf will restrict railguns a lot
Since they eat ammo fast
5 per burst
pine roost
I just can’t get used to the aim accleration and turn rates in tanks after playing 4 beforehand
spiral folio
Rapid fire missing with a 6x scope
magic bloom
I just can’t get used to the aim accleration and turn rates in tanks after playi...
It’s weird for sure
upbeat sluice
I hope they keep the railgun the same. Feels pretty well tuned
pine roost
It honestly feels like it was designed for consoles with how it works
arctic grove
Tanks in 4 move the camera with the turret at the same time
magic bloom
The movement is the tanks is weird
spiral folio
If they make any change to the rail rifle my bet woukd be like a more obvious trail to the shots
upbeat sluice
The movement is the tanks is weird
Yeah it feels off for sure
pine roost
It felt tight and responsive, here it’s just laggy and mostly infuriating
magic bloom
Cause it works off your turret angle
arctic grove
That’s why it seems better, in 2042 and V they have actual rotations
spiral folio
But i dont thinj theyll mess with damage/fire rates/ammo levels til the classes bs happens
arctic grove
Meaning you can’t just fling the turret around with high sens
spiral folio
Because crippling ammo supply will majorly impact how people do things
magic bloom
I mean it also makes it easier to fight other tanks
upbeat sluice
Meaning you can’t just fling the turret around with high sens
That always ended up looking super whacky
pine roost
You could actually push with confidence In 4 because I felt far more consistent with being able to take out targets
magic bloom
Considering people can’t just zoom behind you and instantly destroy you
upbeat sluice
You could actually push with confidence In 4 because I felt far more consistent ...
Tanks could really use an active armor update
pine roost
No angular damage bonus also changes quite a lot
spiral folio
BF doesnt use armor let alone reactive capability
arctic grove
It’s weird how the ram gets two things that it shouldn’t even have
regal lantern
I killed some in solo.... still 0/20
spiral folio
The closest is the active defense thing
regal lantern
man whats going on
arctic grove
Aka the spawn beacon and the APS
visual horizon
Bullet, what's up with the heli flight assist?
pine roost
man whats going on
Report it on the forums and maybe someone with more technical know how would be able to help
pine roost
Bullet, what's up with the heli flight assist?
Basically, It’s on even when it’s set to off in the settings and config
arctic grove
Mav should definitely have the spawn beacon as an actual designated transport
visual horizon
Basically, It’s on even when it’s set to off in the settings and config
gross
upbeat sluice
Mav should definitely have the spawn beacon as an actual designated transport
Yeah that'd be pretty nice. So close to tier 1 on that baby
arctic grove
I wanna t1 it some day
pine roost
Been praying for a fix since season 1 
magic bloom
I’m m 3 badges away from getting T1 M1A5
upbeat sluice
I wanna t1 it some day
It takes a lot of hours. More than you'd think just looking at the requirements
fiery shoal
<@168841307320483840>One has 250 players + realistic destruction while the other...
yea and one has 200 polygons on screen while the other has 200 polygons for just a scope.. seriously this cant be that hard for you to understand...
arctic grove
“Realistic destruction” at the expense of looking like… well Minecraft
There’s pros and cons to everything man
spiral folio
Yea.. and like the lack of ground cover in the battlebit game means people can see too clearly
visual horizon
uh oh, Nyphon is in yet another dispute
arctic grove
Like this same destruction craze is surrounding the finals. Let’s start with focusing on actually fuckin decent map design lol
upbeat sluice
I'd like both
arctic grove
Of course
magic bloom
Why do people care half the time the big destructible thing ruined the map
Like the damn and tower on Shanghai
upbeat sluice
Destruction on a smaller scale is what's missing in this game. Not enough small house in the new maps to flatten. Not enough collapsible buildings
arctic grove
And not even just levolution. An entire objective on BF1s Empires Edge has destructible buildings. Once they go down you’re in the open trying to cap it lol
analog fractal
Destruction on a smaller scale is what's missing in this game. Not enough small ...
Yup ☝️
magic bloom
Destruction on a smaller scale is what's missing in this game. Not enough small ...
This i can agree with
analog fractal
The whole "destruction ruins map design" excuse is lame
upbeat sluice
My c5 weeps that I can't just breach and enter every concrete structure
arctic grove
The whole "destruction ruins map design" excuse is lame
You can call it that, but it’s examples are clearly evident across the franchise
upbeat sluice
Should also be able to rip holes in shipping containers
magic bloom
Destruction is good when it doesn’t actively make the map worse
Shanghai
Lancing Damn
analog fractal
You can have destruction that doesn't comeptlely flatten the whole map, that was never a problem
arctic grove
Not even just flattening the map, flooding half of the playable area isn’t that great either
upbeat sluice
I for one love the flattening the whole map
arctic grove
I for one love the flattening the whole map
analog fractal
BFV did it well tbh, houses were destructible but you couldn't comeptlely level them
upbeat sluice
BFV did it well tbh, houses were destructible but you couldn't comeptlely level ...
Yup
magic bloom
I’m a tanker I could care less about leveling the whole map but I have to have my infantry there to help me
arctic grove
BFV did it well tbh, houses were destructible but you couldn't comeptlely level ...
The game also had fortifications, which I’d argue should return anyways
pine roost
Leaving some of the building up is nice. Let us destroy specific parts to open up angles without sacrificing the fundamental map design
arctic grove
Decent blend of destruction and a map that isn’t annoying as hell to play on afterwards
upbeat sluice
I’m a tanker I could care less about leveling the whole map but I have to have m...
Uh running through buildings in a tank and getting kills is the best feeling
analog fractal
The game also had fortifications, which I’d argue should return anyways
Yup, destruction should be there and force players to use fortifications like in BFV
If you want cover, make your own
magic bloom
Uh running through buildings in a tank and getting kills is the best feeling
You ain’t kidding but without infantry tanks die very very quickly
arctic grove
I’m not opposed to destruction, just do it like Fortifications, or don’t make 100% of an objectives cover destructible
And don’t focus in on it over the thing that causes that problem to begin with, that being map design
arctic grove
But the “destruction made the map worst excuse is lame” is totally false. That example is across several maps on several games
Most famously 4s levolutions
spiral folio
Building sandbags and shit made more sense in bf5 than modern combat
analog fractal
Leveloutions aren't needed
arctic grove
Shits cool the first few times you seen it. That’s it, and it’s gonna look like a masterpiece next to 2042s lack of something similar
spiral folio
Some of the building stuff made no sense too
analog fractal
Just regular player destruction like taking out walls, roofs and being able to make craters in the ground etc
arctic grove
Building sandbags and shit made more sense in bf5 than modern combat
Well, there are entire trenches being built across Ukraine now, it’s a fundamental part of infantry warfare
magic bloom
Building sandbags and shit made more sense in bf5 than modern combat
Only time that would happen is if they added engineering tanks that have functioning dozers on the front
arctic grove
Just regular player destruction like taking out walls, roofs and being able to m...
Yeah that’s fine
spiral folio
Bf5 had the same build stuff for conquest and breakthrough too
magic bloom
Only time that would happen is if they added engineering tanks that have functio...
Which I’m not opposed to but still
spiral folio
So you could build MGs that faced nowhere
analog fractal
Couple that with fortifications, destruction isn't a problem
spiral folio
Or faced your own teams direction
analog fractal
Nothing wrong with the map changing and forcing you to adapt in the later third of a game
spiral folio
The one i HATED the mkst was people building a wall between your spawn and the flag on the bridge map
So people would build the like 8 foot tall sandbag wall keeping THEMSELVES OUT of the flag
arctic grove
Nothing wrong with the map changing and forcing you to adapt in the later third ...
Sounds good on paper. But maybe we just haven’t had the best execution of it yet
analog fractal
Being able to build MG nests and artillery cannons in V was so good
BF2042 is such a downgrade compared to V honestly in many aspects
spiral folio
They should have made SOME build spots team specific for breakthrough
Bf1 with trench digging woulda been cool also
Have a map go from a nice field to a muddy trench covered hellscape over a long battle
analog fractal
Being able to build cover and trenches etc would've helped 2042s maps