battlefield-2042

[hexed mango]

who tf lives in kansas besides that girl from that movie

like what tf is wyoming

[eternal narwhal]

hahahaha

[hexed mango]

nebraska? nah i dont even think snow wants to be there

[fiery dawn]

wyoming is nice actually

[hexed mango]

no

[eternal narwhal]

i was gonna move the US until i saw guns being sold in the walmart there 💀💀💀💀

[hexed mango]

shut up canada man

[eternal narwhal]

jk not the actual reason i didnt move tho

[fiery dawn]

I like Montana better though

[hexed mango]

bro is not for real rn

[fiery dawn]

mountains are nice

[hexed mango]

he be listing fictious places

bro stay in canada

[fiery dawn]

California boy can’t handle the cold I guess

[hexed mango]

we dont want you here anymore

bro im moving to boston what do you expect

[fiery dawn]

I love it here 😂

[eternal narwhal]

only in Ohio

[fiery dawn]

Ohio yuck

[hexed mango]

ohio more like oiho

[fiery dawn]

👍

[arctic grove]

My internet went out Smh

for like a couple of minutes

❤️

Heart of it all

!jumbo

[upbeat sand]

Dice where's my night time

[hexed mango]

manifest

[eternal narwhal]

get ur eyes tested

[hexed mango]

dlss?

[upbeat sand]

Do you have dynamic resolution on

[wary portal]

Man it's stupid that they make the vault weapons freaking poopy.

I'll try the m16 soon. And I'll regret it.

[eternal narwhal]

vault ones?

like from portal?

[hexed mango]

ripple effect doesnt gun well

[hexed mango]

he said vault.

[wary portal]

Fuck yeah

[hexed mango]

so yeah

[eternal narwhal]

oh

well ive been using the acwr, it works great for me

[hexed mango]

its alright compared to 2042 guns

[eternal narwhal]

yeah

[hexed mango]

but its one of the better vault weapons

[wary portal]

Bullshit someone told me that their shit.

[hexed mango]

i'd still pick m5 or sfar over it

[upbeat sand]

I that's why

[hexed mango]

they're*

and they are.

[upbeat sand]

Turn off

[eternal narwhal]

with the acwr, it doesnt make me feel like im at a wild disadvantage

[hexed mango]

well shit, maybe not the right term, but they are not at the same level as 2042 guns

[pearl ridge]

Fuckin hell, more drones than the average Ukrainian village up there

[hexed mango]

the visual recoil and performance is just worse

[eternal narwhal]

i guess so

[hexed mango]

but some like the acw or m240b are decent

[eternal narwhal]

yeah

also

what is a good lmg to use?

[hexed mango]

but also the attachment selection kills it

avancys or lcmg

[eternal narwhal]

okay thanks

[eternal narwhal]

wdym?

[hexed mango]

they dont have as wide of a selection of attachments, i.e. they only get the ones from their respective eras

[eternal narwhal]

ah yes yes

[hexed mango]

although there are some bf3 sights i wish were in 2042 lol

[eternal narwhal]

lol yeah

[pearl ridge]

Killing Casper’s drones is a right pain. Seems a lot of people don’t know this, but Rao can hack them to make them hold still to be shot.

[wary portal]

Well I just gonna use so I'll know that sometimes past guns beats the future guns.

[hexed mango]

eh

not the 93r lol

or m1911

or m16

or m60

or... majority of the vault weapons

[wary portal]

Yeah yeah

I know I'll be a challenge.

[hexed mango]

aks is sadly dogwater.. i liked that gun in past games

[wary portal]

And like I said fucking regret.

[hexed mango]

lol

xm8 is decent

[wary portal]

Can it still change the xm8's magazine to a
Assaut rifle one?

Lmg? kinda not my style right now.

[hexed mango]

the only vault one is the lmg

[wary portal]

I need to eat butter toast with gravy.

[hexed mango]

i wish alex respected the M17/18 like i did

[wary portal]

And chunkie puffs.

[eternal narwhal]

dont need to worry about guns when u main the air vehicles 🥱

[wary portal]

I still suck at air vehicles. Thanks.

[hexed mango]

P320-M18

[eternal narwhal]

it just takes practice tho

[fiery dawn]

yes

[wary portal]

Ok ill practice. If I have time.

Beside Im on the ps4.

[eternal narwhal]

im on xbox...

[wary portal]

One or series x?

[fiery dawn]

@hexed mango

[eternal narwhal]

series x

[wary portal]

Ok

[hexed mango]

bouta bust

[fiery dawn]

I’ll show you the one I’m actually saving for

It’s the AXG Classic

[hexed mango]

there's only one thing i love more than sig

ryan gosling

[hexed mango]

gawd damn

[fiery dawn]

lmao same

[wary portal]

You guys think that dice will bring more future weapons like the railgun?

[fiery dawn]

hope not

[hexed mango]

i hope they dont add more stupid fucking railguns

istg i fucking hate the rorsch

[eternal narwhal]

sick weapon skin

[hexed mango]

stupid fucking gun

[eternal narwhal]

how much?

[hexed mango]

my anger for this gun is gonna get my killed

[fiery dawn]

I wish haha

[hexed mango]

alex did a big nono

[eternal narwhal]

i like using the railgun

so satisfying tbh

[hexed mango]

alex:
hates the m17
thinks throwing knives are balanced
added railgun

sam:
chad

sam > alex
final

sam solos dice devs easily

[wary portal]

I imagine if they bring some plasma weapons like from the terminator movies. Judgement day sets around the 2020s.

[fiery dawn]

xD

[hexed mango]

please no

its only 20 years in the future

[fiery dawn]

did Alex actually say as much about the M17?

[hexed mango]

i asked him if he would ever think of adding the M17 and he said it was a lame gun

[fiery dawn]

It’s not 2142. If they did a 2142 remake that’d be fine

[fiery dawn]

damn that sucks

[eternal narwhal]

bruh

bruh

bruh

bro said plasma guns pls

[wary portal]

Dice won't listen so.......

[fiery dawn]

[hexed mango]

"its the averagest of the handguns"

[fiery dawn]

what xD

ok buddy

[hexed mango]

yeah im so sad

[fiery dawn]

“weapons designer”

anyways I gotta sleep

gn

[hexed mango]

lol gn

[wary portal]

THAT i wish it happened @fiery dawn

[hexed mango]

im watching drive rn

cause i love ryan

cant wait to buy Barbie movie tickets

[wary portal]

Pet the chicken. Pet the chicken.

[pearl ridge]

Boy I love my squad being one ineffectual idiot

[hexed mango]

its me

[pearl ridge]

That I can’t exchange for an actual squad

Because there is no squad change mechanic

[hexed mango]

you can change squad

[eternal narwhal]

how?

[hexed mango]

if you're dead, if you go to the pause menu, go to squads and players, go to your name, and there's a change squad option

[brisk imp]

wich settings recommended for gaming rtx 3060 and ryzen 3600

[hexed mango]

on pc its right click i believe

[pearl ridge]

That’s a fucking obscure way to do it

[next onyx]

Medium graphics.

[pearl ridge]

Why is it there

[next onyx]

With DLSS balance on.

[hexed mango]

Stuff like High Fidelity Objects should be medium, or low, undergrowth quality at most high, and dlss either off or quality if your pc runs fine with it, also rtao off.

[pearl ridge]

Oh it doesn’t give a choice it’s just another random squad

[hexed mango]

game is very cpu bound so it shouldnt change too much

[pearl ridge]

Fucking Christ.

[hexed mango]

yeah its shit.

but hey ive been told that theyre working on it, cause again sam is a chad

[next onyx]

It would be nice if there was a skin for the AK24 that changes the K8 holo into some Bf3 Kobra sight skin thing.

[hexed mango]

lol i was just talking earlier how they should add some bf3 attachments to 2042

[next onyx]

Kobra, A psuedo bf3 heavy barrel and foregrip would be nice.

[hexed mango]

i cannot remember for the love of me what its called, but one of the 2x optics on the m416 is really nice

[next onyx]

U.S HOLO and PKA-S.

[hexed mango]

isnt extended basically heavy?

[hexed mango]

yes yes yes

i love the pka

[next onyx]

Heavy barrel and long barrel are completely different.

[hexed mango]

eh

tomato tomato

[next onyx]

Heavy barrel improves damage range but increases vertical recoil.

Long barrel decreases RoF but increases velocity.

[hexed mango]

mk

[next onyx]

If they changed long barrel to increase accuracy and also vertical recoil that'd be a go to for me.

[hexed mango]

man drive is such a good movie

[next onyx]

Bf3 heavy barrel originally just increased damage range but was eventually changed to be paired with match rounds that would improve accuracy as well.

[safe verge]

The breakthrough mode is so shit

[hexed mango]

nah

you're shit

[next onyx]

That's it I remember now.

It would also improve velocity.

[hexed mango]

you forgor now

[next onyx]

But would incur a minor hipfire loss.

[safe verge]

Why is battlefield 1 so superior

[safe verge]

The ttk plus the terrible specialist gadgets make tank gameplay so bad

[calm bison]

I’ve actually been enjoying the tank gameplay a little bit more now

Granted it’s because I’ve been playing the tank superiority gamemode in portal but whatever

[wary portal]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-ed-edd-and-eddy-eddy-ed-edd-gif-5684015

[calm bison]

Tanks in 2042 need work but the class rework later this month should buff them a bit

[hexed mango]

plus they get aps

[calm bison]

Dawg I’m just waiting for them to make the F-35 more maneuverable or allow for more jets in the sky

[hexed mango]

jets get below radar which i cant wait for

[hexed mango]

fr it should be 2 instead of 1

[wary portal]

Sorry trying to open the gif on the chat

[calm bison]

Flying the F-35 is like dragging a cinder block on a beach

You can do it

But it’s cumbersome as shit

[safe verge]

They have to nerf Liz special

It's so gay

[hexed mango]

no

leave lis alone.

[calm bison]

And how would they go about doing that

[next onyx]

The lis special.

I would reduce the rocket count to one but modify the recharge time to compensate.

[hexed mango]

she already suffers from mid damage, a long ass reload, shitty hit reg and piss poor maneuverability

[calm bison]

The thing is already hard as fuck to control for some of us

[next onyx]

They really need to rebuff sundance.

[hexed mango]

that other guy earlier would kill dice if they did

lol

[calm bison]

Just give Sundance an extra grenade

[hexed mango]

mans was so mad about sundance

[next onyx]

TV missile relies on predictively.

[calm bison]

What’s the worst that could happen

[hexed mango]

lol

[next onyx]

I literally don't see the biggest issue with sundance.

[calm bison]

She’s more potent on breakthrough given that well

Tight spaces

[next onyx]

Sundance was overly effectively effective at the start of exposure and was emergency nerfed.

[hexed mango]

everything that explodes is more potent on bt

zain, frags, sundance, etc

[calm bison]

Also buff Dozer sensitivity when holding shield

[hexed mango]

fr lol

dice doesnt understand balance tho

[next onyx]

Unfortunately it's always been a DICE thing to overly nerf it and forget it.

[calm bison]

I mean they had a pretty good concept up until the Type 2A was added to V

And 5.2

I will forever champion BFV’s tank gameplay

That is how you do AAA FPS tanks

2042 took that gameplay and made it worse somehow

[hexed mango]

ill say it again

dice doesnt understand balance

[safe verge]

I fucking hate Liz

[hexed mango]

Lis

[safe verge]

[hexed mango]

once aps comes to tanks lis shouldnt be an issue.

which is why nerfing lis is kinda dumb

[calm bison]

The class rework should do the trick for the most part

[hexed mango]

hopefully

[calm bison]

People will actually have to consider changing specialists to go after certain things

[hexed mango]

lol

[calm bison]

Also breakaway rework

[hexed mango]

i cant wait for breakaway rework

shit looks so good

i mean its still a bright ass map but it looks so nice in the footage

[calm bison]

Kinda sucks that they decided to leave the hourglass rework for S5 but eh

[safe verge]

I think the best thing battlefield 1 did was lock weapons and gadgets to classes

[hexed mango]

i mean that means its probably gonna be the largest rework

hopefully

[calm bison]

Most battlefield games do that

[arctic grove]

You forgot the fact that it oneshots helis from 450m away

[hexed mango]

guns in this game should stay unlocked

[safe verge]

Bf4, bfh, anx 2042

[arctic grove]

And that its insanely easy to use her

[calm bison]

They still have class specific weaponry, except 2042

In BF4 the only class that has PDWs is Engineer

In Hardline the only class with battle rifles is enforcer

Sure they do have universal class weaponry but at the end of the day those games still have guns exclusive to the class you play

[hexed mango]

indeed

[calm bison]

2042 doesn’t have that

[hexed mango]

i mean with how specialists are, guns should be unlocked

[calm bison]

I think they should also offer weapon deficiencies

[hexed mango]

cause like dice said in their post, it doesnt make sense to lock a character like paik to snipers

[calm bison]

The counter proficiencies

[hexed mango]

well thats kinda stupid. they have proficiencies in place for the weapons that are used for a target class

it shouldnt hurt someone to play a certain class.

[calm bison]

Well yeah

[hexed mango]

it should benefit someone if they use a specific weapon for a specific class.

[calm bison]

But you shouldn’t exactly be expected to perform well with an LMG on your recon class

[safe verge]

Does it matter if they're all automatic

[calm bison]

What’s that supposed to mean

[hexed mango]

seeing as the specialists are how they are, it hurts to restrict it. cause people dont really play the recons always with snipers

[calm bison]

Dawg you gotta write this shit out because I’m running on two melatonin gummies atm

[safe verge]

Pdw and ars

[calm bison]

ARs are still assault exclusive in hardline

[hexed mango]

seeing as recon has a borderline assault specialist, and rao is good at medium range

casper can be used close up, his passive is useful like that

[calm bison]

For the most part anyway

You can’t even use shotguns as other classes

Only enforcer

[hexed mango]

i just dont think 2042 has the right gameplay for such a change to restrict guns, it doesnt work with how the speicalists are

[calm bison]

Doesn’t have enough guns to warrant a system like it

[hexed mango]

thats not even the issue

with vault weapons they have a decent pool. its just that it doesnt work.

not in 2042 that is

[calm bison]

Speaking of vault weapons

[hexed mango]

in future games i do hope they return to the system that works.

[calm bison]

When M98B in AOW

[hexed mango]

but specialists dont fit restricting weapons

[hexed mango]

it was one of the first leaked vault weapons, but it hasnt shown up yet

[safe verge]

Battlefield 1 had a strict version of it

Best version

[hexed mango]

eh

[safe verge]

Made for the best squad/class cohesion

[hexed mango]

bf4's version was better imo

the fact that there were universal guns played more towards individual strengths when it came down to a gunfight.

[safe verge]

Dude it's just semi auto shotguns, assault rifles, and pdws

As well as carbines

Completely interchangeable

[pearl ridge]

Had some nightbird shitter. My squad mate and I knocked him down twice.

[hexed mango]

pdw was engineer.

[safe verge]

If both teams on bf4 shoot at each other down a hallway, it didn't matter what class they went

[hexed mango]

and ar was assault iirc

[safe verge]

What i mean is that the meta was garbage because they all did about the same thing

[hexed mango]

i mean yeah but each class was different.

that was just the individual fault of bf4's gunplay, but the guns themselves between classes were varied

aka, a pdw performs differently than an ar or a shotgun.

[safe verge]

The class locked ones, yes

[hexed mango]

as is such a case in 2042, but the 2042 guns are more varied individually, as in different ars perform differently

[safe verge]

2049 is my favorite movie of all time

[hexed mango]

seeing as how dmrs, shotguns and carbines were the only ones universal in 4, that's pretty varied

also that was really random.

[safe verge]

The amount of guns doesn't matter man

[hexed mango]

i didnt say anything about amount.

[safe verge]

I'm so tired rn

[hexed mango]

wish i could actually play video games

[safe verge]

@hexed mango

[next onyx]

Done!

[arctic grove]

Nice!! 👌

[ancient peak]

Throwing knife is so much fun to use

[next onyx]

I did so much!

[ancient peak]

I’m guessing this week’s event made it super easy?

[tepid agate]

Bloody hell you can launch granades so far now 😆

[pearl ridge]

I keep overshooting with my proximity sensors.

Damn things go flying a solid hundred metres.

[next onyx]

Yeah. I wasn't too far away either.

3300 spots away from Casper Tier 1.

[ancient peak]

That’ll probably go fast too

[pearl ridge]

Why are low magnification sights always so hard to get with snipers.

I don’t want to be hiding five hundred metres away

I hate bf4 progression shit

[hexed mango]

?

[pearl ridge]

Give me the useful stuff

At least V gave you options

And 1 straight up let you modify magnification without changing the stupid sight.

2x irons my beloved

[hexed mango]

cause they didn’t have an attachment system.

[pearl ridge]

And the attachment system can suck my dick for all I care.

I like having weapons that are goddamn useful off the bat.

[next onyx]

One thing 5 did well were optic attachments not being tied to progress.

[pearl ridge]

None of this grinding shit.

[next onyx]

Attachments and specs are no different.

[pearl ridge]

It doesn’t take literally hundreds of kills to get useful specs.

I need three hundred kills just to use the Masterkey.

And using snipers in this game is a goddamn chore despite the target rich environment

Because I can’t countersnipe someone using a mouse.

I’ve had this game for weeks and I have 22 kills with the SWS

Snipers are painfully clunky in this iteration and it is not helping being forced to play with people who are straight up faster than I am.

To get a simple 2.5x scope, I need fucking 240 kills.

This is horseshit.

[low timber]

Why aren’t you using solo/co-op?

[pearl ridge]

Because I shouldn’t have to use dumb fucking bots to use good stuff, and they stop contributing to mastery at some point

[dire quest]

Everyone farms attachments in solo tho

[shy latch]

one thing they should re-introduce (and I still don't know exactly why has been removed) is the 1hk from close distance with sniper rifles

[ancient peak]

Pretty sure that still exists

[low timber]

Because people used it as a better non semi/auto shotgun

[pearl ridge]

I swear irons get even worse visibility than they did in V despite officially having the same zoom

[arctic grove]

never farmed attachments in solo, even though ive heard its a good idea. I really enjoy sniping in this game. my KD isn't amazing and i can average 25+ kills per game with NTWS or SWS both while running and gunning, not prone in a bush.

Unpopular opinion the beautiful mix between the two is the GOL and my fav

[pearl ridge]

Why can’t we have console crossplay and cut the goddamn pc players out of the equation

[dire quest]

It's called Last-Gen

[arctic grove]

Man you woke up and chose violence today.

[pearl ridge]

A literal child could understand that mouse users have inherent advantages.

[arctic grove]

this is the oldest argument in the world across any game, PC movement vs aim assist.

Like are we doing this today?

[pearl ridge]

Aim assist doesn’t do jack.

[arctic grove]

can we not?

[pearl ridge]

Trust me.

[arctic grove]

trust me

[pearl ridge]

The stats show that pc players inherently maintain higher k/ds

They aim better, they’re more mobile, they have better customisation.

[arctic grove]

The stats and the research of the articles show that most players are proven to with an above average of stats that show. Its all facts man. the facts

[pearl ridge]

I can tell a pc player from a mile off because they don’t move like console users.

[shy latch]

if people use it as better shotgun they have multiple malus: shotguns have bullets spread (I don't know exactly how is called in english, I hope you got what I mean) instead sniper is single bullet, shotguns recharge faster than bolt actions, shotguns can be used (obviously) easily with hip fire compared to bolt actions, plus bolt actions you have low chances to survive against a close combat with any automatic weapon so if you set 2hk chances become even lower

[pearl ridge]

Yeah, if you want to use a bolt action at close range, 1 is the game to do it.

They’re fucking unusable in this.

It’s only a ‘better shotgun’ because shotguns are even worse

The only viable shotgun has a fire rate of 300 for gods sake

[low timber]

And a sniper is a long range gun, having 20m ohk range makes them better than the shotgun when shotguns have 15m ohk range if enough pellets hit.

[pearl ridge]

That’s just an AR with funny bullets.

[shy latch]

unfortunately (for me) 12M and NVK-something (can't remember the name) are too good in close combat range, unless that user has a very low skills is hard to win the fight

[low timber]

NVK-S22

[pearl ridge]

2042 is ‘balanced’ around long attack ranges, but shotguns and snipers behave more like they’re in 4

[shy latch]

ok thanks, too many number with the NVK prototype guns 😅

[pearl ridge]

Where everything was a lot more compressed.

[low timber]

There’s two

[shy latch]

I know, but I have difficulties to remember the numbers generally speaking

[pearl ridge]

How am I supposed to use a sniper if everyone can pop me with literally any gun

[low timber]

P125 and S22

[pearl ridge]

I regularly countersnipe with the damn M5

Slap in high power and a decent optic, set it to single shot, and there you go, a dmr.

Also, for some reason half the optics are super dark?

That’s considered a bad thing.

Means that the manufacturing quality is shit.

And it’s a bloody bad thing for gameplay too because you can’t see a damn thing through them.

[arctic grove]

Tano, you should have regular role.

[wide shore]

Shouldn’t we all

[arctic grove]

I can tell that you really really love the game, you just show it in a different way.

[hexed mango]

if tano should have regular i shoulda gotten mine months ago

[hexed mango]

distance

m5 hp is only viable to an extent

[wide shore]

I been here almost 4 years. Lmao

[hexed mango]

whereas the dxr can cross map easily

[wide shore]

Wasn’t always active tho

[hexed mango]

you’re also a booster

[wide shore]

Only cause I wanna be able to send pictures & videos

[low timber]

I thought you already had regular Echology

[hexed mango]

which is why i’m not a booster

[pearl ridge]

If I’m a long way away, I’m not doing my job, and I can’t hit a goddamn thing.

[hexed mango]

unfortunately no

used to boost but stopped

[low timber]

Ah, that’s why then

[hexed mango]

yeah

[wide shore]

I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with a sniper rifle

[hexed mango]

idk maybe next year i’ll be reg

[wide shore]

I’m probably one of the worst snipers to ever do it

[hexed mango]

with the way my arm is rn i couldn’t even hit the sky if i aimed up

[pearl ridge]

Infantry Rifles were the perfect niche for me in 1.

[wide shore]

I wish I had an excuse

[hexed mango]

[wide shore]

I could snipe in BF1 and BC2. That’s it

Any other game. Nope

[hexed mango]

ok well i should probably sleep seeing it’s almost 5am

[magic bloom]

I could snipe with the regular martini Henry

[pearl ridge]

Because I’m a mid range kind of guy, and while I like DMRs, I sometimes want headshots.

But noooo, snipers apparently need to be half a goddamn kilometre away to be effective…

[wide shore]

I used the Gewehr 98 sniper mostly. But I did like the Lawrence of Arabia SMLE

[pearl ridge]

Aside from a couple of outliers (i.e. smg 08), BF1’s weapon balance was just perfect.

Everything was viable.

Even crappy revolvers with loading gates.

[magic bloom]

I miss my slam fire shotgun and my broom handle Mauser pistol

[wide shore]

MP18 trench. Who needs to ads

And the Chauchat

[mossy badge]

[magic bloom]

Suppression variant of the Lewis gun

[pearl ridge]

And, importantly, those weapons were fun

[magic bloom]

I’d rather have fun weapons than balanced weapons

[pearl ridge]

I don’t feel anything from 2042’s weapons.

Even the GVT is underwhelming.

[magic bloom]

Which is why I continued to use the post nerf martini Henry

[mossy badge]

[wide shore]

Which is why I used the Benet Mercie even tho it sucks

[hexed mango]

i love the gvt

[wide shore]

I love hunt’s weapons. All that black powder. Mmmm

[magic bloom]

Because I want a smoke screen whenever I shoot my gun

[pearl ridge]

The GVT is too small

[magic bloom]

Broom handle Mauser in 2042 when?

[pearl ridge]

45.70? Get outta here, I need this thing in 7.62 or more.

[magic bloom]

.45-70 is a big fuckin bullet tho

[pearl ridge]

It ain’t a battle cartridge though.

[magic bloom]

It’s just slow moving but it hits like a train

[pearl ridge]

Or it hasn’t been since the 1800s…

[magic bloom]

7.62x54mmR

That would be a heavy ass lever action if they chambered it in 54R

[pearl ridge]

The 1895, now that is a damn lever action.

[wide shore]

I just want some cool guns

Where the hell is the an94

[magic bloom]

I Just want the little Mauser carbine that pilots had from BF1

Or the option to make the pistol one

[pearl ridge]

Bf1’s weapons were always so cool

[wide shore]

C93>P08>C96

[magic bloom]

Since all you needed was the holster

C96> because it’s a Mauser

[pearl ridge]

It says something that the most boring weapon in that game was a water-cooled SMG with a big ol’ drum mag.

[wide shore]

People hate the C93 irl. But it’s such a cool looking gun

[next onyx]

Welp that's tier 1 Casper.

[low timber]

That was fast

[magic bloom]

Welcome to the family

[next onyx]

I can surprisingly. PLAY THE GAME LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.

Yeah I think I got 2200 points in a single round.

[low timber]

What specialist are you lacking now?

[next onyx]

Or something.

Dozer, Sundance, Boris, Crawford and Lis.

[magic bloom]

HEY NOW WAY WHATS WRONG WITH SPOTTING THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM FOR YOUR OWN

[low timber]

Boris is actually easy if you make a portal mode with increased health and ask a friend for help

[next onyx]

It's so hard getting 300 ASSISTS.

[low timber]

God that smiley is bad

They could’ve at least made the mouth in the middle and not right up where they eyes are

[next onyx]

I literally went back to Zain immediately with the m16a3.

And I tore people up with it.

[magic bloom]

What gun are you using there way the BSV-M

[arctic grove]

How on earth

[next onyx]

The BSV with close combat subsonic and short barrel.

It's a good psuedo submachine gun.

[arctic grove]

ah

[next onyx]

90% with a god damn 5800x3d HAHA.

Like damn.

[magic bloom]

I wanna T1 Crawford but I don’t want people spam pinging me for revives when I’m trying to kill people

[low timber]

Wait for v3.2

[magic bloom]

Yeah but this event would make it kinda easy

[low timber]

Can’t revive anymore then

[hexed mango]

can’t wait until 3.2

[dire quest]

How is the event?

[wide shore]

128 Breakthrough is the best mode.

Wish it wasn’t restricted to spearhead tho

[dire quest]

The portal custom version has like 5 maps

The problem is getting players

[wide shore]

You can’t make 128 BT in portal

[dire quest]

I did tho

Check #908101543646089236

Since it uses custom logic it's restricted xp

Nobody likes restricted xp

[wide shore]

Awh

I saved the code anyway

They need to make BT just vanilla-able in portal

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[wide shore]

I don’t see why it’s not

If they’re worried about xp farming. Then I just point at rush chaos

[magic bloom]

I mean they’ve got literal modes where you do nothing and get free full XP

[dire quest]

There's even a frontlines mode in portal

[wide shore]

If it’s anything like last weeks event I’ll pass

[dire quest]

I set this one up 128p, 90minutes

Thing that sucks about portal is if it uses logic, it automatically restricts xp

Nobody plays restricted xp games sadly

[magic bloom]

I really want a T1 skin for the P90

[wide shore]

I really want any skins for any portal guns

[dire quest]

Tier 1 claymore tho

[wide shore]

Not looking forward to those

[clever delta]

Does Portal in BF 2042 even have all the maps from BF3, BF 1942 and Bad Company 2?

[dire quest]

2 from each game

[clever delta]

such a disappointment, only 2 maps from each game

[wide shore]

Did you expect them to just have 3 full game remakes in another game?

Like, what

[clever delta]

the game was released with 7 maps + 6 portal maps

[wide shore]

Ok,

That doesn’t mean the game should contain 3 other games inside of it

[magic bloom]

I Wonder if rao will be able to hack it and disable it

The game would be fuckin massive if they remade every games maps in this one

[wide shore]

Probably not.

[clever delta]

Will battlefield 2042 even have many maps? I played it once for 5 hours when it was free to play for a weekend on steam and I liked it but it seems like a waste to buy if it doesn't have many maps

battlefield 4 had 33 maps including DLC

[magic bloom]

It’s gettin at least two more maps I believe

[clever delta]

Only 2 more maps

[magic bloom]

At least we don’t know if they’re giving us more because they only confirmed season 4 and 5

Plus they kinda have to make two versions of every map due to last gen consoles

[dire quest]

Old battlefield games were designed for 64 players too. These maps are technically double the size, which means two maps in one

[wide shore]

BF4 may have had 33 maps. But only 2 were good

[pastel loom]

the ultimate edition got discounted from 110$ to 50$
until 19th January
aw I didn't expect it

[clever delta]

I said BF4 had 33 maps , I don't know how many BF3 has

[wide shore]

It was a typo that I fixed

BF3 actually has good maps

[clever delta]

BF4 had 33 maps , Battlefield 1 had 32 maps, Battlefield V had 20 maps, Now Battlefield 2042 is only gonna have a total of 9 original maps + 6 portal maps, that is horrible. Since Battlefield V there has been a significant decline in total map number

[pastel loom]

do you know that 90% of dice devs left by the end of bf1?

[dire quest]

2042 has 10 original maps tho

And all 2042 maps are twice the size of past games

Making it 20

26 seems fair

[ancient peak]

Quantity =/ auto-better

[pearl ridge]

The maps are worse too.

Spearhead is the only good original map.

[clever delta]

You can't count a map saying its 2 maps just because its much bigger , to my knowledge most of the maps in BF 2042 have more open steppe rural areas compared to bf4 , less city maps

[pastel loom]

@clever delta

[magic bloom]

Orbital, exposure are good

[dire quest]

You can't count a game having more maps if they're half the size either now can you?

[magic bloom]

I mean you could count that they almost have to make two different maps because of last gen consoles

[pearl ridge]

Exposure is basically two different maps separated by such a major change in elevation that they might as well not interact at all.

[dire quest]

Therefore 2042 has 26 maps

[pearl ridge]

Neither side is particularly good.

It’s like. Monte Grappa but make it bad.

[magic bloom]

I like A1 that’s next to the tower

Monte grappa was one of my favorites cause of the big guns

[pearl ridge]

I’m just tired of the constant collections of shipping containers and prefab buildings.

Where’s the actual personality

This is why I don’t care for modern settings, they just don’t do anything.

[pastel loom]

near future*
that and modern day should be two different genres

[pearl ridge]

They’re the same shit.

[dire quest]

Tier 1 edm bot tho

[pearl ridge]

Pretty much the only thing 2042 has that we don’t is magic EMPs.

[ancient peak]

Point to me where rail guns are in regular use as a handy carry weapon

[dire quest]

What class gets the edm bot?

[clever delta]

No I didn't know that but I don't like buying a battlefield game that has less than 30 maps since I expect at least 30 maps due to bf4 and bf1 having so many, I never played bf4 much, only 4 hours, I played battlefield 2/bf2 mods for 2520 hours from 2006-2010 and BF 1942 mods/game for 505 hours from 2006-2010, I mostly played mods, Operation Peacekeeper 2, Point of Existence: 2, Project Reality, Eve of Destruction 2, Forgotten Hope 2 and mostly Forgotten Hope 1 for bf 1942

[pearl ridge]

Okay and the stupid fucking railgun.

[ember nimbus]

We don't quite have stealth helicopters yet either

[pearl ridge]

But really I’m so tired of futuristic settings that don’t go whole-horse with it.

[dire quest]

You can't expect 30 maps bruh

[pearl ridge]

Like, ooh no there’s drones now

[wide shore]

Orbital & Manifest are very solid. I like spearhead and stranded a bit. The rest are hit or miss.

[magic bloom]

We did at one time

[ember nimbus]

They're concepts

[magic bloom]

The RAH-66 Comanche was a stealth helicopter that would’ve replaced the Apache

[ember nimbus]

My point is that they aren't in active service

[pearl ridge]

Infinite Warfare had the balls to take it to space and everyone got bitchy about it.

[magic bloom]

I mean game devs are gonna piss off someone with the setting of their games

I Love near future style games

[ember nimbus]

We had a working railgun concept as well but it was ship-sized and incinerated itself every few shots

[pastel loom]

modern day should stand out on its own
mw19 and mwii did that well

[magic bloom]

19 did 2 took a step back in my opinion

[clever delta]

The next battlefield should have a map editor

[lone axle]

BF4 started with 10 maps. BF2042 has way bigger maps though, I am pretty sure.

[ember nimbus]

The Condor concept is really cool to me

[clever delta]

the next battlefield game should be 256 player servers and it should have a map editor, then the game after that should be a total MMOFPS like planetside 2 with thousands of players on a server in a big war, that would be amazing

[magic bloom]

I do Love the condor

[dire quest]

Dude expects 30 maps at launch

[magic bloom]

Considering it could probably happen irl

[lone axle]

My CPU will die holy

[clever delta]

no i expect 30 maps including all dlc

[wide shore]

We just need a Cold War battlefield game

[magic bloom]

Since the current osprey sucks ass

[magic bloom]

^

[ancient peak]

Specifically 80s

[clever delta]

I play planetside 2 regularly, its one of the few actual MMOFPS games that has enough people playing it

[magic bloom]

Nah 70’s

[ember nimbus]

Pulse-jets (which the Condor uses) can generate Thrust intermittently like a helicopter

[pastel loom]

I want one that takes place the same year as its release
full contemporary weaponry

[low timber]

Imagine Zavod 311 as a map but it’s still pristine

[ember nimbus]

It has both pulse-jets and normal jet engines

[wide shore]

60s, 70s, 80s. All of it. In one big package.

[wide shore]

That’d be dope

[magic bloom]

That would be kinda weird for vehicles though

[wide shore]

We need a deep synth version of the battlefield theme.

[pearl ridge]

Yeah, Cold War’s where it’s at. Pity everyone acts like it was just bloody Vietnam.

[magic bloom]

Considering you had the introduction of the prototype Abrams

[wide shore]

More variety, more better

[ember nimbus]

Not too much different from what we had in 4

[magic bloom]

The Huey was the best thing in 4

[pearl ridge]

Modern, but without drone shit.

[magic bloom]

What’s wrong with Casper’s drone

[pearl ridge]

And with less annoying vehicles.

[magic bloom]

The military uses them

[pastel loom]

aka same year as its release

[wide shore]

Flamethrowers and m16s and AKMs

Yeehaw baby. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

[magic bloom]

Car-15’s for the engies

[pearl ridge]

F-15s getting to actually do something.

[clever delta]

Is season 4 out now?

[magic bloom]

You could have the F-14 as a strike aircraft if you really wanted

[wide shore]

No. Still 7 weeks left I think

[pearl ridge]

Oh wait it’s Battlefield it’d just be the goddamn marines again.

[magic bloom]

As it should be marines ftw

[pearl ridge]

All they have is PR, their gear is shit.

[magic bloom]

That’s kinda their point

You wouldn’t have as much variety in terms of vehicles if it was the army

The army doesn’t fly jets the marines do

[weary aspen]

yo , anybody knows why , in the new event week 3 , i cant seem to play atack/russian i only get defense , its been 15 games in a row

[next onyx]

Yeah that's just by random chance.

[pearl ridge]

The marines get boring aircraft.

[weary aspen]

damn

[pearl ridge]

I mean fuck, Hornets? Really?

[wide shore]

Hill 137

[magic bloom]

They have the F-35B the one that can VTOL

[weary aspen]

i gotta buy the lotery with this luck

[pearl ridge]

And they’re still stuck with the bloody Huey.

[magic bloom]

Don’t you dare start about the Huey

[next onyx]

Oh yeah what you guys think of an M5b Carbine?
A carbine m5 that starts off with a suppressor and subsonic rounds that can be changed into a short barrel, kills in 4 hits out to 20 metres and it balanced by its low velocities. Can be configured with a short barrel and short suppressor (Which further decreases its velocity)

[wide shore]

Fortunate son plays in the background

[pearl ridge]

If they’re not doing coastal shit the marines can stay on the bloody boat.

[magic bloom]

I mean the regular army still uses the Huey just not as much

[wide shore]

I better not see another AR style weapon before the AN94

[magic bloom]

Unless they wanted to add a an osprey to the next game but that wasn’t around in the 80’s

[wide shore]

I’ll flip

[magic bloom]

I hope it’s a PKM Just to spite you

[wide shore]

I’ll take a PKM

[magic bloom]

If they add a pkm they should make it where our characters trip over the used belt lol

[next onyx]

SMG class;.

Same vain as the Xm8 Carbine in bad co 2.

[magic bloom]

You know what I’m tired of not having a T1 vehicle Badge im using be stealth heli

[wide shore]

I get it. But idunno. Ar platform guns don’t do it for me.

[magic bloom]

If you can’t beat them join them

[wide shore]

Sit at the height ceiling and just drop bombs.

[pearl ridge]

The AR platform has been a disaster for global firearms development.

[next onyx]

670 RPM by default but can be pushed to 720 RPM.

[magic bloom]

It’s just the best design

[next onyx]

Assault rifles exist for a reason.

They literally do what you need.

If you need ammo go LMG.

If you need accuracy you go IAR.

It's literally that simple.

[magic bloom]

I mean the AR platform was to be able to do everything with your firing hand still at the ready

[pearl ridge]

The only thing worse is literally every single Russian gun being a damn AK

[magic bloom]

While your non dominant hand can reload and the like

[pearl ridge]

Every. Single. One.

[magic bloom]

Your a bullpup enjoyer pipe down

[next onyx]

There are some standard boring assault rifles but what we have is tried and true.

[magic bloom]

28 pound trigger pull

[next onyx]

The AK's have worked for RU for a very long time.

[magic bloom]

That was a joke btw

[wide shore]

What’s wrong with bullpups?

Oh

[next onyx]

AKM and 103 definitely being my favourites.

[wide shore]

I’d love to see an AUG.

[magic bloom]

They’re just ugly to me and I dont like them with a few exceptions (DSR-1, P90, and KSG)

[next onyx]

Isreali Galil series are amazing too.

[ancient peak]

I have one

[wide shore]

They fuckin dominated BF4

[next onyx]

ACE Galil yes.

IMI and ACE are amazing rifle.

[pearl ridge]

The Galil is ‘AK but make it not shit’

[magic bloom]

You could also include the MTAR 21

[ancient peak]

Well the Gen 2 ACE

[next onyx]

Have you fired it?

[wide shore]

Hey now

[pearl ridge]

The Tavor, now that’s something we could use.

[next onyx]

AK is pretty decent.

They do what they do there's nothing more than that.

[magic bloom]

The Israelis are good at making guns

[wide shore]

I’d take a tavor as well

[magic bloom]

MTAR would be nice

[still vault]

chaos indeed

[pearl ridge]

There is one AK that I’ll abide by: the Malyuk.

[clever marlin]

Actually

[crisp parcel]

The week 3 of the nordvik event is actually good

[next onyx]

The AK's are known for their reliability.

[clever marlin]

Are we able to save that gamemode as a portal server?

[next onyx]

Why not use it.

Don't think so BigE.

[clever marlin]

😦

[magic bloom]

I mean that’s not really a good argument now most not bottom of the barrel AR-15’s are just as reliable

[wide shore]

There’s something just so classic about the AK. I love using AK style guns. The 24, the AKS & the PP are all sick in this game.

[pearl ridge]

The Malyuk is Ukrainian magic that successfully turns the AK into a bullpup.

[clever marlin]

AKs are the kind of guns that you give to people who don’t know how to use guns

[magic bloom]

I mean they were designed to be as cheap and as easy to give conscripts

[clever marlin]

Those things can survive without proper maintenance for months and still work

[wide shore]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[crisp parcel]

M5>>>

[pearl ridge]

It’s less that the AK is reliable and more that it’s very easy to fix and clean.

[wide shore]

7.62 isn’t a round I’d would’ve liked to fire for my first gun.

[magic bloom]

7.62 isn’t that bad just don’t let it beat you to death

[wide shore]

Then again the first gun I ever shot was a Saiga

[next onyx]

Yeah that's true. Though again if it's something that carried them like the m4 with the U.S of course they'd keep to it.

I've fired an m16a1 at vietnam!

[magic bloom]

Lucky bastard

[next onyx]

Almost got to fire an m60.

[crisp parcel]

My first was a Ruger 22

[next onyx]

Wanted to bring the bullet casing home.

[wide shore]

I shot a grease gun

Full auto

[next onyx]

Think I've shot my dads rifle at the lake.

[magic bloom]

I Shot a .50 when I was 10

Most American thing ever and I loved it

[crisp parcel]

I shot a Remington 870

[next onyx]

That reminds me. The AKU 12 in Bf4 is a theoritical well, AK12-U.

[pearl ridge]

The M4, far as I can tell, is the reason why 5.56 is being viewed as underpowered. Of course the velocity based cartridge is doing poorly with a barrel that short!

[next onyx]

Fucking love the RPK.

.277 nitro I'm looking forward being a thing.

[wide shore]

I’ve also shot a ruger 22, two different .45 pistols and 2 9mms though I don’t know the make or model of those.

[magic bloom]

I mean a 14.5 inch Is apparently the sweet spot with 5.56

[pearl ridge]

Get a bullpup and you have a nice long barrel with a short gun length.

[next onyx]

.277 Hk416 anyone?

[magic bloom]

No ew

[next onyx]

My dad used to own a Ruger semi auto back then Poetic, Before Port Arthur.

[pearl ridge]

The AUG is the best 5.56 gun.

[next onyx]

He was upset he had to give it up but he isn't a fucking idiot.

[magic bloom]

Your simply wrong

[wide shore]

22’s are fun cause they’re easy to shoot.

[next onyx]

M416 best 5.56.

Yeah I think the calibre was larger than .22?

[magic bloom]

M416 and the SIG MCX

[crisp parcel]

I've shot a 20 gauge, ar, shotgun, revolver, 9mm, and a .40 caliber

And a 380

[next onyx]

Probably was .22.

[pearl ridge]

Stubby barrels mean the wanker taking potshots from a klick away will not be dying today.

[wide shore]

I’d love to shoot a revolver.

[magic bloom]

Isn’t that how Australia lost most of its fun guns

[next onyx]

You could say that. Gun culture isn't so big here as you think.

[pearl ridge]

Yeah we actually fucking made meaningful changes in response to a mass shooting. Funny that.

[wide shore]

Yeah but they can’t even have airsoft guns there I don’t think

[magic bloom]

You can’t take away a constitutional right that easy tano

[pearl ridge]

It is a touch overzealous with airsoft and even some nerf guns of all things

[next onyx]

we have gel guns wholly banned too, and you need a proper reason to own a crossbow.

Yeah.

[wide shore]

[magic bloom]

And they did infact have an assault weapons(made up term btw) ban in 1994 that ended in 04

[next onyx]

Paintballs are the only ones that are allowed in a controller environment.

[magic bloom]

Sounds like you need some freedom

[next onyx]

Now. I heard someone's crotch hit and heard a weird moan in the middle of a fight so, Yes.

[wide shore]

Probably cause most paintball guns don’t look like real firearms.

[next onyx]

We have freedom.

Guns aren't a part of our culture.

[crisp parcel]

Very great convo about bf2043

[magic bloom]

That’s just unfortunate

[next onyx]

Yeah you take a toy gun, stuff it into your suitcase and take it home through the airport and you have to explain what it is.

Yeah my fault.

[magic bloom]

[magic bloom]

One of the best T1 skins ^

[next onyx]

Casper Tier 1. Too bad Death with the new headpiece we got looks much better.

Eh.

[magic bloom]

I’m not biased at all

Totally

[crisp parcel]

No life

[wide shore]

I don’t think I use any of my t1 skins.

There’s just cooler skins

[crisp parcel]

Your one of dem mfs who goes 80 and 20 on conquest

[magic bloom]

Way is just that good ong

[next onyx]

I mean I can get a casual hundred bomb.

[wide shore]

Way gets more kills than that

[magic bloom]

Way please carry me

[next onyx]

This was one of my most recent hundy bombs.

[magic bloom]

Way gets way more kills than that

[wide shore]

[crisp parcel]

Carry me

I average 20 kills

[next onyx]

If you're in OCE I can.

[magic bloom]

I Just want my 249 in 2042 and I’d be happy

[crisp parcel]

Nvm

[magic bloom]

How do I change servers I’ll deal with the lag

[magic bloom]

^ get this man a medal

Put a tow on the Tuktuk

[wide shore]

I’ve said the same thing before. But that ping is badddddd

[magic bloom]

I have an Australian friend I play the division with and it’s not that bad

[pastel loom]

switch to ethernet if you're not

[next onyx]

I almost killed you at release poetic.

[crisp parcel]

Breakthrough chaos is absolutely amazing

[magic bloom]

I think I’ve killed frosty a few times

[next onyx]

Xm8 go yes.

[wide shore]

That’s cause I switched my Xbox to Aussie servers to play early lol

[next onyx]

Casual talk from my friend.

Nah it was a portal server, TDM on arica harbour.

[crisp parcel]

The exo farm servers on portal are wild

[wide shore]

Yeah IK.

But sometimes I play rush chaos on EU servers and the ping is unbearable. I couldn’t imagine being on OCE

[next onyx]

180 ping.

220 if in east coast.

If you connect to OCE.

[wide shore]

Am in east coast

[next onyx]

Aye fuck that.

[wide shore]

[magic bloom]

That’s not even that bad

[crisp parcel]

Anything above 60 ping feels unplayable

[magic bloom]

My bad for ping way

[next onyx]

It's fine.

[wide shore]

I usually have like sub 20

[next onyx]

I usually sit on 29.

27 29.

[wide shore]

Anything approaching 100 is just too much for me

[magic bloom]

I once played with 360 ping

[wide shore]

I’ve only done that joining Asian servers to do BF1 Easter eggs

[upbeat gust]

honestly, they could add a new plane/jet into the game

maybe a tactical bomber of sorts

[magic bloom]

I think they’re teasing a new one

Since there’s a plane in the loading screen that looks strangely like the 6th gen fighter concepts

[upbeat gust]

well i just think it should be a bomber

we already have fighter jets

[magic bloom]

I don’t think bombers would do well in this game

[upbeat gust]

they would get hard countered by jets and counter the HELL out of ground vehicles

my idea is that they would be really fast, have an even more extended flight range but have horrid turn rate

[magic bloom]

Ground vehicles aren’t even the problem

It’s stealth helicopters

[upbeat gust]

helis wouldn't really do anything because my idea on the bomber is that it will fly pretty high up

[radiant prism]

Stealth helis are sitting ducks to jets though

People need to learn that lol

[upbeat gust]

bomber

read the messages please

[magic bloom]

Most jet pilots aren’t good enough to take them down

[radiant prism]

I know you're talking about the bomber

[upbeat gust]

yeah we both acknowledge stealth helis get wrecked

[radiant prism]

I was responding to @magic bloom

[upbeat gust]

atleast i do

[magic bloom]

But like I said most jet pilots can’t kill them

[radiant prism]

Because most jet pilots are idiots

[upbeat gust]

since jets require alot of skill

[magic bloom]

Exactly

[upbeat gust]

like seriously lots of skill

[magic bloom]

So that means it would be the same for bombers

[upbeat gust]

yes, bombers would also be heavily skill oriented

due to their high speed and precision

[next onyx]

Eh?

You just need to fly over and drop bombs.

It's really nothing too complicated.

It is one thing to learn to accurately drop your bombs yeah.

[upbeat gust]

i am talking about ludicrous speeds though

[spiral folio]

Bombers dont make sense for small scale operations

[upbeat gust]

i mean why would a bomber be slower than the jet anyways

[next onyx]

In bf5 you want to come down on an angle so that gravity would collect all your bombs into one place.

[upbeat gust]

it would just be a sitting duck

[next onyx]

Payload.

[spiral folio]

Fly a B21 over.

Drop 5 Jdams
Nothing left on the map.

[next onyx]

Bf5 bombers were slow and a sitting down but they were the ultimate anti ground option.

[radiant prism]

Bombers should be slow to encourage use of jets

[upbeat gust]

i dont think that could work with futuristic bombers

[next onyx]

Drop 4 500 kilos into an area, fly out and then come back in for another run.

[spiral folio]

Bf1 bombers were just 5 free kills if you shot up

[upbeat gust]

i'm thinking about stealth-like bombers

[magic bloom]

Bombers are big

[radiant prism]

not anymore usually

[magic bloom]

So like the B21

[upbeat gust]

they would fly up high at ludicrous speeds and drop bombs

[radiant prism]

Especially now that we have multirole fighters

[next onyx]

The most dice can do for "Stealth" is just make them immune to lock ons which breaks game balance.

[spiral folio]

Modern bombers dont work for this kind of combat

[next onyx]

I get where you're playing at meme but.

[radiant prism]

Its honestly best if we just give the jets bombs lol

[next onyx]

I don't agree with from a gameplay perspective.

[upbeat gust]

i'm thinking about a stealth override for the bomber

[magic bloom]

Bombers would probably just be a plane version of the stealth heli bombs

[upbeat gust]

like a slight camouflage

[spiral folio]

Why fight fir an oil rig when you can pop a daisy cutter down the center and blast the entire thing to bits

[upbeat gust]

which will change depending on the map

i think you know what i mean

[next onyx]

If the stealth choppers bombs are anything to go off I would rather not deal with some asshole in an f35 doing that crap man.

Yeah I do.

[upbeat gust]

but if you go into stealth you can't drop bombs

it's really just my ideas

[magic bloom]

I would like bombers but they’d just get fucked

[upbeat gust]

and fuck up ground units

[next onyx]

Through air support they can be protected.

[upbeat gust]

imagine a jet protecting a bomber and they just annihilate the enemy team

[magic bloom]

Like I said why make something that already counters something that’s already countered

[upbeat gust]

anyways i think the bomber should be tankier than the jet and also faster

so the wildcat isnt that much of a counter as it is to the jet

since the bomber dies to the jet

[spiral folio]

Have a B1 bombers fly in supersonic, pop off some guided bombs.

Every vehicle is gone and everything within 50ft of them.

Sonic boom knocks everyone to the ground

[magic bloom]

Ground vehicles are already at the mercy of stealth choppers let alone something they don’t even have a chance of shooting

[radiant prism]

The ground needs to have effective counters to the bomber, this just seems like more and more of a balancing nightmare

[upbeat gust]

later gets melted by a jet

[spiral folio]

Are they ever re-adding attack/stealths to BT?

[radiant prism]

I hope they do

Feels a little empty without air vehicles

[spiral folio]

B1s long gone by the time you can circle back on it

[upbeat gust]

i didnt say the wildcat wouldnt be a counter

i said it would be less of a counter than it is to the jet

[spiral folio]

Itll be some b1 future version that can drop bombs while sonic

[upbeat gust]

so the bomber gets fucked up by jets and can also be killed by wildcats

[magic bloom]

If it’s as strong as you want it to be then it needs it be countered by the wildcat

[upbeat gust]

and have some sort of special camouflage

like a cameleon

[magic bloom]

Otherwise you’ll just have bombers farming infantry and MBT’s which already have it rough

[upbeat gust]

oh yeah and one thing i though about rn

add anti-air missiles to the bomber if it comes

[spiral folio]

Yea active camo B1-C-H

[magic bloom]

No

[radiant prism]

It shouldn't have AA missiles

[upbeat gust]

why not

[radiant prism]

Then you just encourage people to dogfight with it

[upbeat gust]

it would just remove it's anti-ground capabilities and switch them to anti air

[magic bloom]

Because it’s already overpowered by what you want

[radiant prism]

Which should be actively discouraged

[spiral folio]

Dogfights are for bf1 and 5

[dire quest]

Dude's name is literally meme

[spiral folio]

Jets in modern games vs infantry are hobbled so bad

[dire quest]

Quit feeding the troll

[upbeat gust]

what

[magic bloom]

I want a helicopter that can’t even be locked onto

[upbeat gust]

i can't even share my ideas here now?

okay.

[magic bloom]

And a tank that can’t take explosive Damage

[spiral folio]

Problem with jets in a game like 2042. Is they cant use the things that make the real one good

Like the F35 isnt stealth and cant multi-target

[magic bloom]

It also can’t command and control drones like it’s supposed to be able to

[spiral folio]

Hell the f35 ingame cant even carry twoooo kinds of missiles

[magic bloom]

And feed info to other aircraft

[spiral folio]

Even today
Theyre proposing the idea for f22s and f35s to wirelessly command munitions of f16s

And yea gradius style drones flying in formation

[magic bloom]

Like the F-35 is supposed to help the F-22 find and destroy targets

[twin ledge]

Is there any plans for daily challenges?

[still vault]

Not that I've seen

[spiral folio]

Hell the f35 can even talk to destroyers using the f35s sensors to detect targets like icbms entering orbit

And thats today

[magic bloom]

The F-35 is just the smartphone of jets

[radiant prism]

Thing is all that stuff just doesn't have a place in Battlefield. Its so large scale that BF doesn't encompass it

[twin ledge]

That's a bummer, would love to have some challenges to do. Even if they only have 2 points each

[radiant prism]

Because BF, as much as it prides itself on scale, is incredibly small in terms of looking at an overall operation

[spiral folio]

Yea like bombers

[magic bloom]

You right they should’ve leave it to DCS and war thunder to do

[spiral folio]

Literally my point

[still vault]

I feel like planes worked in 1942, Vietnam, 1 and V. All the modern titles they just didn't feel relevant or that fun.

[radiant prism]

Bombers could have a place...but its not going to be realistic.

[magic bloom]

Bombers only work is they’re Counter-able by ground

[spiral folio]

Imo fighter jets are at the edge of what works in BF theyre just unwieldy

Even realistically. Choppers make more sense for small scale operations

[magic bloom]

They dont even really feel like jets in this game

[still vault]

imo. planes in 2042 should have been unmanned drone planes that worked similarly to the small BF1 planes

[spiral folio]

Cause if your goal is purely eliminate a target. Well a 5000lb bomb will do that

If you need something intact. Ok send ground forces with vehicle support

[magic bloom]

I mean half the reason bombers even work now is because of their stealth by the time they’ve been spotted they’ve already dropped their payload you can’t really do that in battlefield

[spiral folio]

Though like with breakthrough. If it ever looked like Russia was going to take over an american research facility in the newly annexed canada. Theyd saturate the place with bunker busters before letting it be taken

[magic bloom]

Those 30,000 pound bombs that can go through like 200 feet of solid rock

[spiral folio]

Yea canyon would be filled in

Nothing TO take after that

[dire quest]

Just add nukes I guess

[radiant prism]

Also there's basically no way Russian forces would even make it to the Canadian Rockies before getting blown out of the sky

[spiral folio]

Itd take like maaybe an hour for b21 bombers to reach canada. 30min for f22s

[radiant prism]

Especially with airbases in Alaska and PNW

[spiral folio]

From WA/AK

[radiant prism]

Yeah

First time I ever saw an F22 was in Alaska

[spiral folio]

Like itd be a suicide mission

Ru's best hope would be satellite transmitting captured data from the servers

Before the bombs