battlefield-2042

[hexed mango]

bro the Target 8T's reticle is such a low quality image

[visual ravine]

say it again

[zenith wedge]

goin on what

2h30?

[visual ravine]

ikr it's bs

it's cos they're all getting smashed for NYE there isn't any devs to fix it lol, or it's a complicated issue

[zenith wedge]

everyone too trunk to remone desktop in

and im too high to type properly apparently

what if they arent back until tomorrow

[visual ravine]

i'll cry

[zenith wedge]

where will i get my quick dopamine fix

[hexed mango]

ea's servers have been down all of 2023

[visual ravine]

then they'll know the fricked up

[visual ravine]

HAHAHAHA FACTS

[velvet sand]

well, rip taking advantage of double xp for the night

[dense brook]

the servers are still down?

[timid inlet]

The M16A3 shreds

I love it

[hexed mango]

vault weapon = L

[modern linden]

the ea login is

[hexed mango]

taking advantage rn

[zenith wedge]

rub it in more

[dense brook]

my origin logged in fine but the game seems to not be booting up for whatever reason

[zenith wedge]

cant think of any i like

[velvet sand]

Matchmaking is borked too. Got in eventually, played a round, got spammed with errors for 5m till I gave up -_-

[hexed mango]

none, which is the correct answer

[velvet sand]

it wasn't even a satisfying round, which was the worst part

[modern linden]

I mean the ea website says they are working on it so hopefully fixed soon 🙂

[hexed mango]

itll be fixed in 2023

ah yes 14/64 in lobby

might as well just not play rn

[modern linden]

It is 2023?

[hexed mango]

not for me

[lost fossil]

Not here either

[visual ravine]

bf2023

[arctic grove]

L. ill play in 20 minutes

[hexed mango]

idk there arent a lot of full servers

[rotund grail]

Skip the EA App, just use your Battlefield 2042 shortcut, or BF2042.exe

[hexed mango]

i mean my shortcut launches via steam, which just launches ea app, so it doesnt matter lol... still worked for me regardless
but ig the direct exe also would work

[tired lantern]

how you do the direct exe

[ebon pilot]

this sounds like a date handling bug given how close it happened to 2023, but I'm not seeing any documented 2023 errors on the wikipedia page

[wide shore]

[eternal narwhal]

Anyone else unable to connect to EA servers? For Oceania

[ebon pilot]

have you tried setting your system clock to 2022

[eternal narwhal]

No I haven’t

[ebon pilot]

me neither

[eternal narwhal]

Is anyone else having the same issue?

[ebon pilot]

yes

[eternal narwhal]

Ah I see

Did changing the clock to 2022 fix it?

[ebon pilot]

idk im just guessing and im going to bed

itd be really fuckin funny if it was fixed by that though

[hexed mango]

didn’t happen in Y2K. doubt it happens now

i’m not having the issue

[ebon pilot]

It happens way more often than you'd expect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs

[hexed mango]

i mean that was more of a joke than anything, seeing as the events of Y2K being how they were. at any rate ea uses unix which isn’t subject to a year causing an issue like this

[ebon pilot]

except for 2037

if they're using 32 bit time

[hexed mango]

it is in all likeliness a coincidental server issue they ran into

[ebon pilot]

idk man programmers are kinda dumb

speaking from experience as a dumb programmer

everything is trade offs and we're making all the wrong ones

[hexed mango]

same but if they’re using unix time they shouldn’t run into an issue with a year, seeing as it’s just an increment on the ms

if they aren’t using unix then they are stupid

[ebon pilot]

unless they're calculating something in the future like a really long timeout

take current year, add 16 years, BANG overflow

[hexed mango]

why would they need something in 2038 tho

[ebon pilot]

a hacky "infinite" timeout

it has happened before

[arctic grove]

SERVERS ARE STILL DOWN

[wide shore]

How they gonna have down servers on a double xp weekend

[arctic grove]

Leave it to EA to eff up not only the 2xp weekend but on new years

OH by the DICE gods im in

[hexed mango]

can’t most modern langs just use 64 signed

[ebon pilot]

Isn't C time_t still based on 32 bit?

[wide shore]

But how many other people are lol

[visual ravine]

battlefield hasn't been working this whole fcking year

even apex is down and fifa

[hexed mango]

i would assume EAs systems
A) understand a more efficient way of infinite timeout, as in using a better value or toggle for an infinite

B) probably so their server database work in a 64-bit env and not C

i mean most modern DBs use 64bit

[visual ravine]

when the gaming monopoly server crashes so there's no games left to play

[ebon pilot]

but this could be any piece of software in-between and only god knows how much legacy exists in the code

[arctic grove]

basically about 32 players per team and the rest are bots

half and half more or less

[hexed mango]

idk i just really think that the arbitrary amount of time between now and 2038 doesn’t make sense for 2023 to the only time an issue like that would come about it it was indeed that issue

[wide shore]

Sounds like easy kills. I’ll hop on in a sec

[arctic grove]

yeah man join squad

[hexed mango]

i might hop on but my arm/wrist is hurting

[arctic grove]

wear a wrist brace

[hexed mango]

idk if that’ll help ngl, and i don’t think i have one

[rancid oar]

kb or mouse ?

[hexed mango]

mouse arm mostly

my chair unfortunately doesn’t raise anymore than it does rn and it’s like 6cm below the desk.

[arctic grove]

Hot Take: Tornado needs a buff

[rancid oar]

tornado/storm needs removed smh

[hexed mango]

would be interesting lol

nah i like the storms

they are a funny obstacle

[wide shore]

I like going prone in the tornado and watching everyone else go flying.

[hexed mango]

plus maps like Orbital and Hourglass look amazing with storms (granted hourglass is ass )

[rancid oar]

interesting. I play pretty low and have trouble periodically with kb wrist

[hexed mango]

i mean mouse wrist just seems to be the one that is more vividly in pain but both stress out at times

[rancid oar]

only my personal opinion they are visually, and practically, terribly annoying and unnecessary lol

[hexed mango]

possibly, at the least it’s an easy way to travel across the map

[oak dawn]

Anyone not able to load their game on steam?

[hexed mango]

ea servers having issues rn

[rancid oar]

we have 345895923 unnecessary vehicles on the map at any given time... plenty means of transportation xD

[oak dawn]

I see..

[hexed mango]

i mean for bt we don’t get those extra vehicles

[maiden maple]

good, i hate vehicle spam

[oak dawn]

When you guys load up the game, does it load the origin or EA launcher?

[hexed mango]

i use EA App, but launch from steam

[rancid oar]

same. its awful.

[hexed mango]

steam launches ea app which opens game

[oak dawn]

Has it always done that?

Mine uses origins

[hexed mango]

i mean the vehicles that spawn on map aren’t able to kill people besides running them over

[oak dawn]

And I tried to download the EA app and it doesn’t see my game on steam

[hexed mango]

used to use origin, but i uninstalled origin once ea app released steam support

[rancid oar]

like I been playing BF for like 10 years... I understand the vehicles and their appeal/function. it never makes it any less annoying lol

[oak dawn]

So I can’t load up anything

[hexed mango]

steam support was recent

[rancid oar]

when mine was down, BF4 was the only one that worked for me.

[glacial quarry]

hmg or lmg better for tanks

[hexed mango]

try launching 2042 via the exe in game files tho

[oak dawn]

Ahh okay so.. do you think it’s just a server problem? Or should I keep using origin?

[eternal narwhal]

I just got into the game now

Just got into a game now

[ebon pilot]

it's funny to back cap a point, have 7 people looking for you, and then the storm drops in and everyone is gone

[hexed mango]

it is a server problem but i was able to load up a few minutes ago on ea app

[oak dawn]

the EAa app doesn’t recognize my game on steam idk what to do

[hexed mango]

mine does

when was the last time you tried es app

ea *

[oak dawn]

Sheeesh so frustrating

Like 10 min ago so I gave up and downloaded origins again

And it doesn’t work either now

Lol

[rancid oar]

maybe one day we will get lucky and 1 company will corner the market and we woont have to have 27 different programs to run the same games lol

[hexed mango]

huh. maybe try uninstalling origin, have ea installed, and launch 2042 from steam

[scarlet valley]

my game is also completely screwed rn, cant even get a splash screen

[rancid oar]

Origin is EA. Origin was doown for me the whole time. they both came back at the same time

[hexed mango]

yeah but i was able to launch game from ea app when everyone else wasn’t able to, idk why

[oak dawn]

I tried it also, when I downloaded EA app, it uninstalled origins automatically

But I’ll try again

Just don’t know what the problem is cuz nothing loads

[boreal cape]

Fucking server dead

I was doing tier 1

[rancid oar]

ok I lied to y'all. im back online but NA servers still seem to be down. looks like only some EU/Asia

[rancid oar]

same 😦 rush xl is perfect fotr it

[boreal cape]

I was just doing portal

I suck too much to actually play in mp

I’m lucky if I can get 10 kills per game in conquest

[royal swan]

Happy new years from the west coast

[boreal cape]

Yeah back online

Time to grind

I have like 130 kills left for tier one

[hexed mango]

Happy new year

[royal swan]

Man I haven't played battlefield 2042 in a decade

[hexed mango]

bruh shut yo

[arctic grove]

Happy new year.

[royal swan]

It had to happen

[eternal narwhal]

Just started a game

Hopped in a jet

Tv missile takes me down instantly

[ebon pilot]

in a decade???

[royal swan]

Skill issue

[eternal narwhal]

Sometimes I love this game. Sometimes

[eternal narwhal]

Time traveller duh

[ebon pilot]

ah now it makes sense

[royal swan]

New years joke

[errant scarab]

new year, new battlefield?

[royal swan]

Nope

[errant scarab]

[hexed mango]

nah

[ebon pilot]

i hope not

[hexed mango]

fr

[ebon pilot]

a new battlefield needs more time than that

[errant scarab]

I hope yes

[hexed mango]

then you hope for a half baked game

[errant scarab]

2024 maybe

[hexed mango]

another*

[dusky token]

i love double xp weekends. can unlock shit in singleplayer

[ebon pilot]

no not 2024

[hexed mango]

2025

[dusky token]

hope they never patch it

[ebon pilot]

maybe

[wary portal]

2077?

[hexed mango]

idris elba in 2042

[ebon pilot]

now we're cooking

[hexed mango]

frfr

[errant scarab]

I don't care as long as I know it's good, not this

[hexed mango]

let him cook

[royal swan]

A yearly battlefield game. Lmao

[visual ravine]

yessss its up

[royal swan]

I can't imagine the joke that would bring

[visual ravine]

bout time jesus christ

[royal swan]

Not sure why my auto correct said home instead of joke

[hexed mango]

lol

[royal swan]

Oh I know

[arctic grove]

No. Now hop on for some new year battlefield

[royal swan]

J is next to h and k is next to m

[hexed mango]

merc doesnt play this game

[errant scarab]

there hasn't been a battlefield after 4 years

[royal swan]

My fat fingers and my small mobile keyboard don't mix well

[arctic grove]

F

[hexed mango]

theyre too busy hating on the game

[royal swan]

And? I don't mind playing an old game

[arctic grove]

FF

[eternal narwhal]

Bruh the electro wizard tank needs to be needed

[errant scarab]

2042 did not exist

[hexed mango]

someone's memory is failing

[royal swan]

And old games that has players, in which they still do

[eternal narwhal]

And the tv missile spec users need to grow a pp

[hexed mango]

cope

jkjk

[eternal narwhal]

Cope💀

[royal swan]

Mald

[hexed mango]

you should be able to escape their range during their 30s reload lol

[eternal narwhal]

Cant react in time when they spawn kill me in the jet

Time that shit to perfection

[royal swan]

They better not remove

[eternal narwhal]

Fully rehearsed and everything

[hexed mango]

lol

[royal swan]

I prefer over

[errant scarab]

the ingredients is simple

Heavy gameplay
Inmersion
Destructions
Levolution
Classes
Advance server browser
Physics
64-128 players

[royal swan]

Immersion can die

[errant scarab]

And good maps, no empty map

[hexed mango]

"heavy gameplay"
so like it has to weigh a ton?

[royal swan]

[errant scarab]

I want to see a mix of bf4 and bfv in gameplay

[hexed mango]

"Physics"
-> sets g to 9.81m/s^2
"that's too ez"

2042 gunplay >

[errant scarab]

Nop

[hexed mango]

"nop"

[ebon pilot]

yop

[errant scarab]

You like this downgrade? Good for you

[royal swan]

Nap

Yap

[hexed mango]

zop

[royal swan]

Pop

[ebon pilot]

zup

[hexed mango]

thank you!

[errant scarab]

But bfv have more players with 3 years out service

[hexed mango]

ok

[errant scarab]

And bfv is bad too

[hexed mango]

but when

[errant scarab]

But is better

[royal swan]

That's what you get for a franchise that ain't yearly release

[cloud token]

wish there were more maps, game gets really boring after a while

[royal swan]

Old games got players

[cloud token]

need some jungle maps, some vietnam stuff, it would be dope

[errant scarab]

Bf4/3 map design >

[cloud token]

yeah i enjoyed the levelutions for bf4

[royal swan]

Old devs > new devs

[hexed mango]

bro thinks gol railway is a good map and said that open maps are bad.

pick a side bozo

"bf4 map design is good"
-> Silk Road

[royal swan]

There ain't an old dev making battlefield 2042

[hexed mango]

there is one

[royal swan]

Or any I know of

[hexed mango]

tiggr

[royal swan]

Just one

[hexed mango]

worked on bf3-bfv

there's some others aswell

[errant scarab]

many say that there will be a bf4 map in season 4 I hope it has the same quality although I doubt it

[hexed mango]

tiggr just recently rejoined the team

[hexed mango]

its not a bf4 map

[errant scarab]

Idk

[hexed mango]

its a "map that could have been set in bf4"

but its not a reworked bf4 map

(cause bf4 maps are shit)

jkjk

[toxic skiff]

Is the gane playable now? Can’t login hour ago..

[royal swan]

For a split second when I saw the iggr I got spooked

[errant scarab]

this is a full scale war game, running like cod no place here

[hexed mango]

get your head out of the gutter

[royal swan]

That's for naughty stuff

[dense brook]

wow i connected to the game finally

[errant scarab]

Lets wait 30 min for 16 players for play a bad map

[hexed mango]

like me

i mean

[royal swan]

[hexed mango]

does anyone even listen to mercury like seriously nothing productive happens

[dense brook]

ugh lol

[royal swan]

As the planet

[hexed mango]

yes the planet

[visual ravine]

what map is the one in qatar

[hexed mango]

Hourglass

[errant scarab]

"Rework" i thought more destruction and levolution but no

[hexed mango]

Hourglass, Breakaway and Discarded are the only maps you really gotta look out for

levolutions are stupid.

never have them again, at least never have ones that are triggered by players

[errant scarab]

Copy and paste sandbags

[royal swan]

What's with levolution argument anyways they never fully been in bf1 or bfv

[hexed mango]

Orbital rocket is good because it isnt gimmicky and is actually interesting, and isnt triggered by players, but by time and determined outcome by the storm

[visual ravine]

hourglass is good, you find the big building that has a point on top if it, get the hannibal, bomb the shit out of it for like 10+ kills per bomb, go from high alt and ur indestructible

[errant scarab]

Ctrl +C Ctrl +V

[hexed mango]

bro doesnt understand game dev

[hexed mango]

💀

[errant scarab]

Dev dont understand frostbite

[hexed mango]

neither do you

[errant scarab]

Drop 2042 work in a new battlefield DICE

[hexed mango]

nah

[royal swan]

Wait a few years for a new battlefield game

[eternal narwhal]

Spearhead is a shit map for jets

[visual ravine]

they just need to work on fixing it, it is possible, look at no mans lie

[royal swan]

I mean a year ain't that long tbh

[hexed mango]

jets are just shit overall unfortunately

[errant scarab]

just like you did with bfv

[hexed mango]

"you"

[eternal narwhal]

I’m great with jets on other maps but the 20 stingers on the enemy make shit impossible on spearhead

[hexed mango]

how does being on spearhead make stingers more prominent

[royal swan]

Did bf1 ever had a major levolution, did bfv even had one

[hexed mango]

no and no

[eternal narwhal]

Barely any chance to get away

[hexed mango]

unless you count a zep crashing a levolution

[royal swan]

Then I don't want to hear about "why no levolution" bitching

[eternal narwhal]

But also the quantity of stingers

Having 15 stingers is worse than 3 stingers

[hexed mango]

well hopefully once 3.2 comes out you wont have that issue (with # of stingers)

[errant scarab]

a 128 player war happens and the maps are still intact all clean

[hexed mango]

bro hasnt seen anything

[royal swan]

Isn't 128 gone

[hexed mango]

no

[royal swan]

I thought it was

[hexed mango]

why would you think that

[royal swan]

It was gone from breakthrough

[hexed mango]

yeah but not from cq

and Rush XL is a featured mode (128p)

[royal swan]

Rush XL is garbage

[errant scarab]

See what? I have this crap

[hexed mango]

its fun

[royal swan]

How many hours mercury

[hexed mango]

lots of free zain kills

2

(probably idk)

[errant scarab]

I have 600 hours and the game is a crap i only play portal bf3

[hexed mango]

so stop playing

[errant scarab]

Because is like a "remaster"

But is no the same experience

Im tired play bf1 bf4 bfv for years... Bfv content was cancelled for this

[south grotto]

Does anybody know what is the best AR right now?

[royal swan]

Hold on I have a argument card somewhere, um just wait

[hexed mango]

M5 is solid, very easy to use

[royal swan]

AC is beaming

[hexed mango]

SFAR is also pretty good, decent rifle, and a underbarrel grenade

AC42 is decent, but if you dont like bursts then it might not be for you

AM40 is basically an SMG in the body of an AR

[royal swan]

AC is going hard if you can aim

[errant scarab]

The game is so easy

[south grotto]

I've been using the SFAR and K30, was just wondering if the meta changed since

[hexed mango]

k30 isnt good anymore unfortunately

[royal swan]

Because it's more fun than competitive

[hexed mango]

PP and PBX are much better

[hexed mango]

(aka how battlefield is supposed to be)

[eager spire]

no because everyone got sick of levolutions after BF4, they were a gimmick made to make trailers

[hexed mango]

fr

Orbital moment

[royal swan]

And now people want them back

[eager spire]

Also i'd say it's entirely possible to be fun while still being competitive, having a better balanced game is fun in general.

[errant scarab]

So easy, arcade game

[hexed mango]

"people" being this one person that doesnt really have a solid argument

[errant scarab]

No bullet spread

[eager spire]

but it does have spread.

[royal swan]

Actually battlefield 2042 has one levolution bigger than bfv and bf1 it's the rocket exploding

[hexed mango]

"no bullet spread", aka no shitty bloom like bf1, yet actual spread

[eager spire]

They're both the same.

[hexed mango]

ik but bf1's was ass

[royal swan]

Yeah it's supposed to be an arcade shooter

[eager spire]

It's the same fucking thing i am sick of having to explain this please stop making me have to fucking explain this

[hexed mango]

bloom and spread? or the values of the spread in bf1 and 2042

[eager spire]

bloom and spread

[hexed mango]

cause ik spread and bloom are the same concept

[errant scarab]

That looks like a fireworks display compared to an explosion... in the beta it looked better. Also, do you know all the technical level that the airship explosion has?

[eager spire]

they're the same thing.

[hexed mango]

yeah ik i just use bloom as a derogatory term

[eager spire]

I know BF1's values are way higher. It's one of my main problems with BF1.

[hexed mango]

same

[eager spire]

I think it's unnecessary.

[hexed mango]

100%

[royal swan]

I don't count the blimp as it can be removed from the map by shooting the remains or driving through them

[eager spire]

"oh but it's for immersion WW1 guns would be less wieldy and be less accurate as a result" shut up

[errant scarab]

bf1 the battlefield with more technical development

[eager spire]

BF1 the Battlefield where they didn't have a fucking test range and fucked up the lighting for a minority of HDR users

BF1 the battlefield were gas grenades go through walls and floors

[hexed mango]

cool details and overall fun game, sure, but not my favorite gun play personally

[royal swan]

Most guns were copy and paste

[errant scarab]

Exactly, battlefield 1 also has bugs

[hexed mango]

yeah they didnt really have a modular system for the suppressors n shit which was annoying

[royal swan]

All games have bugs

[eager spire]

BF1 the battlefield where they fucked up Conquest and Domination by making it so the team with the score advantage keeps scoring even if they lose majority of flags, making matches seem way closer than they actually were.

[errant scarab]

Battlefield is war, bf1 complete the mission

[eager spire]

BF1 the battlefield where they introduced a single unique movement mechanic, and then fucking ruined it with multiple nerfs because people complained.

[hexed mango]

i wouldnt say bf1 is perfect, its a generally fun and immersive game, but its not a complete staple for everything bf

it has a lot of good aspects, and some not so good aspects

[royal swan]

But it wasn't the worst bf game not by a long shot

[eager spire]

BF1 is far from a perfect game. It was the beginning of the end for Battlefield. It lead to the poor choices 2042 made.

[eternal narwhal]

🙏🙏🙏

[errant scarab]

The only good thing about 2042 is 128 players the rest 💩

[hexed mango]

sounds like a major cope

[errant scarab]

Maybe portal too

[arctic grove]

Copium

[royal swan]

Nah the end was bfv with the removal of premium battlefield and zero dlcs

[hexed mango]

eh portal overrated, its just stupid that its only used for xp farm and 128p rush hc

cool concept on paper

[eager spire]

Nah, BF1 was the beginning of the end with all the poor gameplay decisions they made.

[hexed mango]

poorly executed

[hexed mango]

idk i still really like the game

def some things i would change, but i think its a very interesting game

[burnt void]

God damn bfv was such a weird game

[eager spire]

as is your right. they still made a bunch of bad decisions from a gameplay perspective.

[ebon pilot]

maybe if they didn't use some stupid visual programming bullshit people might be able to make some decent modes

[errant scarab]

Like 2042, isn't battlefield

[faint wagon]

The vehicles are pretty bad tbh

[hexed mango]

yeah 100%. i just think its a pretty fun game to play for the visuals and chaos
but yeah its not as much of a arcady shooter like battlefield normally is

[royal swan]

Bf1 did fairly well still

More well than bfv

[hexed mango]

fr
or if they didnt restrict all the incentive to play such modes

[errant scarab]

classes but only restrict gadgets

[eager spire]

It sold. It still had a lot of gameplay issues that the vast majority of players didn't care about. Barely anyone noticed the Conquest/Domination changes. People act like Behemoths and Elite Classes were good ideas.

[ebon pilot]

please DICE devs. if you add portal to future titles i ask for one thing:

a normal fucking programming experience

[eager spire]

that's not gonna happen.

[hexed mango]

fr ong

[royal swan]

Bfv started like shit and ended too quickly. May have good mechanics but damn the potential was lost and failed to be greater

[eager spire]

BFV started badly, it ended the same way with slightly better maps.

[royal swan]

It could've had more

[hexed mango]

tbf there are probably numerous security issues people like us could abuse

[snow badge]

BFV's biggest issue are the garbage maps

[eager spire]

Actually, no, it started better. Because Spread to Recoil conversion was a change they made after the game came out.

[glacial quarry]

2042 has some garbage maps too for breakthrough

[snow badge]

2042 is turning it around so I actually have faith this time

[errant scarab]

2042 maps gameplay specialist destructin

[ebon pilot]

why not it wouldn't be that hard. ive been sketching out a typescript lib that lets you write normal looking typescript that evaluates to the code blocks they have today and it's so much better (on paper)

[errant scarab]

2042 = rework rework rework like remake the entire game

[eager spire]

So it started with bad maps, it ended with slightly better maps and worse gunplay.

[royal swan]

Buddy that shit is overlooked most of the time

[burnt void]

Bfv movement felt awful

[hexed mango]

imo discarded, hourglass and breakaway (which are the last 3 maps to be reworked) are the only really shitty ones

HOWEVER, the layouts that dice chose for some of the actually decent maps just makes them play like utter dog water

[eager spire]

Buddy, it's still a bad mechanic.

[snow badge]

Bizarre lack of destruction and overabundance of wide open fields aside I've grown to like 2042's maps

[snow badge]

Huh

[royal swan]

It was overlooked

[eager spire]

it's still a bad mechanic. Overlooked or not.

[errant scarab]

I think is better than 2042 cod movement

[royal swan]

I never said it was bad or good I said it was overlooked

[eager spire]

I can overlook a lot of problems, doesn't mean they're not problems.

[snow badge]

BFV has the best movement system in the entire franchise, even if it has issues

[eternal narwhal]

I don’t mind the movement in 2042

[eager spire]

and what's the point of telling me that?

[eternal narwhal]

Only in Ohio💀

[hexed mango]

yeah its unfortunate cause the destruction framework is there, in portal its pretty clear, but there are just not that many walls and shit in 2042 maps that are destructible. which is fucking sad.

[next onyx]

Spread into recoil was only really looked to into the end.

[royal swan]

It's just a standalone simple point

Nothing to deep

[eager spire]

it was a fundamental change to how gunplay worked what do you mean it wasn't too deep

[ebon pilot]

honestly they could keep the style of using primitive blocks for security, but a textual interface would just make it so much easier to manage.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985252852110856222/1052374411304505415/image.png

[snow badge]

It's just so strange, just put a couple of entirely destructible buildings/structures on each map and we'll be satisfied, but instead we have nothing

[burnt void]

I can see why I just don't really like it personally

[royal swan]

I hate when an argument gets too deep and you get pulled into it because it won't stop

I said it was overlooked we can stop it at that

[hexed mango]

yeah the most we get is some cookie-cutter destruction on walls and some barricades and stuff that can be destroyed

[snow badge]

Only thing I really hate about it is the ridiculous sliding

[hexed mango]

would be nice :(

did you ever make progress on that

[eager spire]

Hey, you're the one that decided to keep talking, You gonna answer my question?

[royal swan]

People didn't care for it compared to content and reputation

[eager spire]

What the fuck do you mean a fundamental change to how gunplay worked isn't that deep?

[burnt void]

It is never this serious

[ebon pilot]

no work is keeping me busy

also forgot i showed it to you already

[royal swan]

I say deep as in the argument

The point wasn't that complex

[hexed mango]

ye lol

[eager spire]

The point is that even if BFV got the best maps in the franchise, it would still be held back by this dumbass decision to alter the gunplay after release.

[royal swan]

compared to everything else battlefield brought, recoil and spread was overlooked mostly by the content

[hexed mango]

im wondering how the grpc request is decrypted.... cause on the network panel it looks like a bunch of malformed ascii lol

[royal swan]

Like the maps, people cared about the maps more than how the bullets felt

How vehicles worked

How many guns there are

The quality

[next onyx]

I don't think that part of gunplay was changed ever.

The recoil to spread.

[royal swan]

I never noticed it because I never cared for it, all I know is guns shoot bullets and bullet hurt

[next onyx]

I remember the BTK changing but that about it.

I felt it.

When I was told about it everything came to sense.

[eager spire]

As far as I could tell, BFV launched with the gunplay working like BF4/BF1. Spread to Recoil conversion was something added post-launch.

[royal swan]

I played since launch and I never had felt any difference, I didn't even know they changed it, even looking bfv on YouTube at the time there wasn't really any talk about it

[eager spire]

Like, I don't know about you. But I feel like gunplay would be pretty fucking important when it comes to the quality of a game. A game could have the best maps in the world but if the gunplay is ass, it's not a good game.

[royal swan]

It's quantity over quality for me

[eager spire]

Of course it would be.

[ebon pilot]

the gunplay is what keeps me coming back over and over again

everything just flows when you're infantry

[royal swan]

More maps, guns, and equipment, but it's buggy. Perfect, just like what every fps used to be

[snow badge]

Off topic but does anyone know if there's a way to obtain a specific player card in high resolution?

[eager spire]

No.

[snow badge]

Awesome

[eager spire]

I'm not talking about bugs. I'm talking about bad gameplay decisions. Less talking about stuff like gas nades going through walls in BF1, and more talking about the absurdly high spread values for SLR's, and visual recoil, and the changes to Conquest and Domination. These are not bugs, these are deliberate decisions that are just bad.

[royal swan]

Was gas going through walls a decision or a bug

[eager spire]

I am fairly certain it's a bug because it happens through solid walls.

and floors.

If it was a decision it's psychotic.

[royal swan]

Ok so it's not a decision so we can remove that

Visual recoil, ww1 immersion I guess

[eager spire]

Yes, like i said. I'm not talking about bugs. If it was just bugs, I wouldn't be complaining half as much.

[hexed mango]

i mean gas there's a very low chance it was intentional i doubt it was, intention may have been to go through non-solid materials, cause it is a gas afterall, and that may of been bugged lol

[royal swan]

Visual recoil is debatable tbh

[eager spire]

It's not because even DICE knew it was bad. They removed it in BF4.

[royal swan]

BF4 wasn't a WW1 game

I'm sure the intent was immersion

[eager spire]

It's still as much of an arcade shooter as BF4.

Gunplay even works the same on a fundamental level.

[royal swan]

Bullet spread, same thing

Immersion

Bf1 was imo the most immersive battlefield game

[eager spire]

The spread for the medic SLR's is absurdly high considering their role as marksman rifles meant to be used at a distance. Heaven forbid you try moving while aiming to make yourself harder to hit.

[chilly jacinth]

i feel like someones doing a little trolling

[eager spire]

BF1 didn't even fully commit to immersion. It's a halfway house. Sweet Spot is not an immersive mechanic.

[royal swan]

But it was the most immersive

Out of the others

[eager spire]

Even if you want immersive gameplay, BF1 doesn't fully commit to that. If that was the intention.

[royal swan]

Remember all of the detail compilations that came from bf1

[eager spire]

No.

[royal swan]

Really?

[eager spire]

I'm more into actually playing the fucking game.

[royal swan]

Damn not much in attention to detail

[eager spire]

That's where all my complaints about it come from. Playing the game. Not watching it.

[royal swan]

Or appreciation of it

Gotta - rep on that

[hexed mango]

bf1 was reallly good looking, photogrammetry >>>

[royal swan]

Oh yeah

[hexed mango]

glad they used it in SWBF as well

[royal swan]

The atmosphere was the best thing in bf1

[eager spire]

Yes, it was very good looking. I know that. I did the easter egg. I got more than enough time to look at the maps.

But actually playing the game, that doesn't matter.

[hexed mango]

makes it feel more war-y

[royal swan]

If you don't people will bitch about it

That's why people hated bf2042 maps

[eager spire]

Besides, considering the atmosphere of the maps, i feel like they could've gotten away with keeping the more arcade aspects of the gameplay and still be perfectly fine.

[royal swan]

Plus they were bare

[hexed mango]

besides the fact that there is a lack of actual trench warfare, bf1 is probably as close to replicating war that bf will get

besides the obvious discrepancies in guns but whatever

[royal swan]

The most out of trench warfare was a few dlc maps

[hexed mango]

yeah but even then people strayed from the direct trenches

[royal swan]

Well

[hexed mango]

but there were def trench maps

[royal swan]

You got a few french maps

[eager spire]

I feel like you could have atmosphere and good arcade gameplay.

[hexed mango]

lol

[eager spire]

that's not impossible.

[hexed mango]

no yeah fr

[eternal narwhal]

Just unlocked acwr

[hexed mango]

atmosphere of BF1, plus better gameplay/gunplay = fun game

[eternal narwhal]

My fav gun from bf4

Gonna be more shit in this game tho

[eager spire]

and if people complain about the arcade gameplay, they can get stuffed and play something like Verdun i guess.

[hexed mango]

acw-r kinda nerfed in this game tho

all vault weapons are ass

an atmosphere like BF1's would work amazingly for a vietnam remake

[royal swan]

Yeah, it's a real fucking bummer when the war game doesn't feel war enough in map design and gameplay

[eager spire]

I do not care.

[hexed mango]

about what part

[eager spire]

Like, it "feeling war enough" does not fucking matter if i'm playing an arcade shooter. That's all that BF is.

[hexed mango]

i mean but bf is a war arcade shooter

its warfare

[eager spire]

what's the point if it can't even get the arcade shooter part right?

[hexed mango]

i think having an atmosphere to accommodate that isnt 100% needed but it makes it feel more involved

[eager spire]

Why does it try to be this fucking halfway house between being an immersive shooter and arcade shooter?

[hexed mango]

especially if youre trying to mimick an era like a world war

[eager spire]

Not really satisfying either and being generally annoying.

[hexed mango]

cause it wasnt a completed concept in a way, feels like more could of been done

[royal swan]

Remember those experiments on monkeys where they had a ugly robotic mom monkey but had the fundamentals of feeding and a more realistic looking monkey that is soft but has zero fundamentals on feeding, and the baby monkey all went to the realistic looking monkey than the robotic one

[hexed mango]

yes

brandley or smth

[eager spire]

Why would i remember that.

[hexed mango]

smth with a b

no

Harlow

[hexed mango]

was quite depressing

[royal swan]

Yeah but it taught alot

[hexed mango]

another depressing fact: any animals experimented on were killed after the fact

1940s moment

30s*

[royal swan]

Like how people would buy a good looking game that is dogshit like cod over a terrible looking game that is good (anyone know a shit looking game that has good gameplay design)

[eager spire]

Most arena shooters that exist.

[hexed mango]

cause its terrible looking lol

some people be like that

wish more 2042 maps looked like Orbital during the storm

and i wish the skybox on spearhead was fixed

[royal swan]

Pretty privileged, same shit different story

If your game looks trash it's not going to do well

[hexed mango]

depends on the game

[royal swan]

Unless it looks trash to be ironic

[hexed mango]

and depends on the target audience

AAA games would probably get more heat if they went for a lack luster visual style if it wasnt intended or expected

(specifically for smth like bf or cod)

[royal swan]

Oh yes I forgot expectations and reputation existed

[eager spire]

i mean there is a value in a game looking nice, and BF1 certainly had that, but I just don't understand why they had to fuck up the gameplay to make some kind of halfway house attempt at being immersive, when they could've just kept the arcade gameplay that people like.

[hexed mango]

i mean just saying if a BF game released with roblox -level quality, i dont think it would be received well (2042 on last gen be like)

[eager spire]

That being said, sweet spot was an ass mechanic, i don't care if it's an non-immersive thing, it was ass, and i'm glad it never came back.

[royal swan]

And remember how people reacted to seeing a women in battlefield v even if it provided no gameplay advantage or disadvantage it was only for looks

[eager spire]

I do remember that, it was very funny, they were very whiny about something that never ended up actually being in the game

lmao

rofl even

[royal swan]

Then the dev said don't like it don't buy it then it fuck the games launch

[eager spire]

that was the most based thing a dev has ever said and it's unfortunate that they couldn't have made a better game to go with that.

[hexed mango]

lol

[royal swan]

Even if it was based or you made a banger game, saying don't like it don't buy it as a dev before the game releases is the worst shit you can ever say

Because people do shit ironically

[eager spire]

yes, i'm well aware of people doing shit ironically, people say this game was worth over $100

[royal swan]

Now I'm wondering the impact it could cause if a cod dev said it before releasing a new cod

Also the thoughts of thermal Scopes coming

[eager spire]

inb4 they work through smokes

[royal swan]

Or night vision,

[eager spire]

night vision would only be justified if they were making night maps which does not seem likely.

[royal swan]

I'll only like them if every map gets a night version

[snow badge]

I can't see shit at night in every fps game I've played so this would be the end of me

[tame cobalt]

they should still add kb&m support to consoles

[hexed mango]

i mean why tf would they add nigh vision sights for 0 night vision maps

[eager spire]

they should.

[hexed mango]

cause i mean the concept for S4 doesnt look like a night map

[eager spire]

and they should make input-based matchmaking mandatory for all crossplay FPS games

[tame cobalt]

manifest kinda dark tho, but u can still see people ig

[hexed mango]

yeah its not dark enough for NV to be needed

[tame cobalt]

yuh

I don't have an opinion on manifest 2 yet, haven't played it enough

What's the consensus on it?

[hexed mango]

i mean its still a great map

[tame cobalt]

Based

Manifest 1 was my fav cq128 map

[eager spire]

BF1 had night maps where it was actually a problem to see people. Unless you're like me and run the game at above 50% brightness in game. But doing that fucks up all the lighting because DICE decided to cater to a small group of people who were using HDR in 2016.

[hexed mango]

i think the changes have all been for the general better, i mean removing lots of the unneeded high ground, adding some good cover, etc all good

Orbital and Manifest still best base maps

[tame cobalt]

sheeeesh

true

orbital, manifest, exposure

Best cq128 maps

[wet socket]

out of topic, but i still have the rubberbanding issue on 128 players conquest maps, despite having good frames

other modes are fine

[hexed mango]

network?

[tame cobalt]

haven't played much on Spearhead yet

[eager spire]

welcome to 128 players

[wet socket]

nope

[hexed mango]

oh nvm

[wet socket]

60 ping

[eager spire]

that just happens

[hexed mango]

idk i dont ever play cq lol

[wet socket]

it happens always

[eager spire]

you'll just have to deal with that

[wet socket]

i dont play 128 conquest anyways

but yea

[hexed mango]

PL issues on 128cq

[tame cobalt]

There is a portal server in south africa called "South African Border War Simulator" 💀

[hexed mango]

is it accurate tho

[quaint vector]

[hexed mango]

[eager spire]

of course

[tame cobalt]

That shit is fucked up

[eager spire]

why wouldn't there be. There's always some edgy dipshit naming Portal servers.

[hexed mango]

is it renewal?

[wide shore]

When the Russia/Ukraine stuff started I saw a portal server that was running caspian called “Russia vs Ukraine”

[hexed mango]

those still exist

[wide shore]

I’m sure they do

Where’s the respect at

Those people are weird man

[quaint vector]

If you see any SUS Portal Server, just report it.

[hexed mango]

i mean they arent really breaking the rules are they

[quaint vector]

Some of them do..

[hexed mango]

by saying ukraine vs russia?

[quaint vector]

I don't mean only that.👀

I saw some political / promotion Servers and it was weird...

[hexed mango]

ah

[eager spire]

i remember seeing a BF3 server that had "trump 2024" in the name. It was running Canals TDM 24/7

i just checked it doesn't exist anymore

you'll have to believe me on that

[hexed mango]

lol

i believe you

(little does he know, i dont)

[quaint vector]

We believe you

[hexed mango]

gonna see if more peeps are on 2042 rn

if the server issues are fixed

[robust vapor]

Waiting new season

For new 2042 weapons to unlock

[eager spire]

There was also a BF4 server with CP in the name. I'm not typing out what i mean by that because I don't wanna get muted. I also checked, that server also doesn't exist anymore. You'll just have to take my word for it.

[hexed mango]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1609481297113522177

[eager spire]

cool thanks BF Social Media guy.

Your job probably sucks ass.

[hexed mango]

bro thinks he carries bf

and then all the replies shit all over it

[eager spire]

again his job must suck ass.

[hexed mango]

ea: normalize completing games
please

[royal swan]

Gotta say these replies are cringe

[visual horizon]

for real, delay a game by a year if you have to

[tame cobalt]

morbius got white name

rare white name morbius

And you shall forever be known as morbius in this server

[hexed mango]

thank you

[tame cobalt]

[hexed mango]

gives me an idea

[robust vapor]

[hexed mango]

perfection

[royal swan]

[tame cobalt]

I forgot zain is in the game

[royal swan]

I fucking love

[tame cobalt]

Gonna play him now

Zain's perk is kinda fire

[royal swan]

Shit makes me giggle when I see

[hexed mango]

fr

[royal swan]

[next onyx]

T100 skin for Zain go yes.

Be a chonker.

[safe verge]

The state of this game is better, but man it's still absolute ass

[hexed mango]

way what do you run on pbx

[safe verge]

Real far cry from Battlefield 1 and 3

[tame cobalt]

i imagine way+zain is a deadly combo

[eager spire]

Zain is an interesting character, I would never imagine that DICE would give a character the Quick Fix perk from MW19

[safe verge]

I'd never imagine they make Liz either

[eager spire]

I'd never imagine they'd make Paik either. Personally if I was working on the design team for an FPS game and someone suggested a specialist with wallhacks i'd toss that concept in the trash bin where it belongs.

[safe verge]

I think what they should have done was keep the jungle run mechanics from bfv

[wide shore]

He looks like he should be cooking with Mr White in that outfit

[safe verge]

And instead of specialists, just let us design our own assholes

[hexed mango]

3 kills + 3 assists with xm3 at once

[safe verge]

The same way they let us in battlefield v

[royal swan]

Way, can be a permanent emoji here. I don't want to use again, it doesn't give that honest reaction

[eager spire]

I don't know what you mean

[safe verge]

Sprint crouch

[eager spire]

oh

yeah sure whatever as long as sliding still exists i don't care

[hexed mango]

2042 sliding >>>

[mossy badge]

Titanfall ii, apex, mw19 sliding >>>

[hexed mango]

apex sliding is just ridiculous

[mossy badge]

Happy New Year 🎉🎊

[eager spire]

Apex sliding is great, people have done crazy stuff with it.

[hexed mango]

happy new year

bf2042 sliding >> other bf sliding
how's that?

apex sliding is great for apex, wouldnt want that in battlefield tho

[wide shore]

2042 has the perfect slide. It’s not obnoxiously long like other games. It’s the perfect length

[hexed mango]

you know what else isnt the perfect length?

[wide shore]

[hexed mango]

the life cycle of ea games of course

[wide shore]

True

[hexed mango]

what did you think i was gonna say

[wide shore]

Exactly that

Obvs

[next onyx]

AWOOOOOGA.

[mossy badge]

People still play battlefield iiii and iii , it is still not dead

or is it

[eager spire]

why do you have to type them like that.

[hexed mango]

life cycle != game being alive / dead

[mossy badge]

you mean support from devs

?

[hexed mango]

what do you run on pbx

[hexed mango]

ye

i love it when i get kicked out of a server just to be stuck on a black screen

[mossy badge]

they provide support for ii years?

[next onyx]

Laser sight, Fusion holo, Tac comp and close combat.

[hexed mango]

not always

[mossy badge]

2 years is still nice

[hexed mango]

sometimes not enough

2042 needs at least 2 years

even then it wont be perfect

[mossy badge]

but I understand some people want 3-4 years

[hexed mango]

4 years could be a bit much, im fine with 2 if the game is good.

games should take 2x the amount of time to make tho.

which is obvious by how half baked 2042 is

[next onyx]

I heard the voices of the people I killed on Among us.

[mossy badge]

we will still see half baked games

[next onyx]

I wish this game wasn't under developed man.

[hexed mango]

when the priest says my grandmother is no longer among us

[mossy badge]

2024 or 2025 which year will we see next battlefield?

2026 ?

[hexed mango]

mgl or reg laser

[mossy badge]

[errant scarab]

When soundtrack rework?

[hexed mango]

when complaint rework?

[next onyx]

Both work.

[hexed mango]

any preference or nah

[next onyx]

Honestly.

I don't really.

They both just work.

[hexed mango]

ill go green then

[next onyx]

But the green laser sight works for lessening the impact of the recoil which may help.

[mossy badge]

🤣🤣🤣
Remastered 2024 soundtracks

[clear fog]

Anyone would like to join coop to unlock some attachments?

[errant scarab]

I mute music

[hexed mango]

music mutes you

[errant scarab]

Its awful

[hexed mango]

likewise

[errant scarab]

It is as if they recorded it moving heavy machines psnnsp sp dap psnd spd smdns idk

[hexed mango]

why does rush on Orbital randomly remove the little walkways under the pressure boilers next to the launchpad/runway

crawler way*

[mossy badge]

Yeah I also heard the soundtracks it's weird

[errant scarab]

Ppsodls pdpsodnsm psns psnsm psnpdls pdpd

[hexed mango]

lol last sector of orbital rush, me and a teammate spammed the mcom with xm3 airbursts as the enemy tried to defuse

[prime ember]

guys does anyone have any idea why my d pad input is not recognized by bf 2042 , also the circle is seen as L2 button ,the X button as R2 button , R1 as L3 ryc , everything is messed up , the game sees the controller as a xbox controller even though it is a ps5 one , i dont use any third party software , i cant try to remap the the controller because as i said some inputs are not detected at all

camera down movement is also on L2 💀

i cant remap it because the down movement of my right analog stick is not recognized but the left and right ones are recognized

the controllers works 💯 % perfectly in any other game , even in titles that were released when ps5 did not even existed , like snowrunner

[chilly jacinth]

you can get a ps5 controller to work

but you gotta do some stuff

aka google it

[prime ember]

i tried with steam and every other solution i saw on the internet , i just cant make the game to take input from d pad and some others

it simply wont

[chilly jacinth]

switch to a much superior xbox controller then

cause thats what the game supports

[cloud token]

playing assault side on the nordvik mode, and i got to the end where you have to plant the bombs, i was like where are the bombs, as they didnt spawn right away and they spawned ontop of me and pushed me under the map

what is a vault weapon and how can i get one

[shy latch]

a vault weapon is a weapon taken from BFBC2 or BF3 and imported to 2042 collection with some modifications to tyhe handling, spread, accuracy, etc.; if you go to the weapons collections and take a look to (for instance) the M416 you can see the unlock criteria

[next onyx]

Basically guns to be made more competitive in the 2042 meta.

[shy latch]

yeah, taking the example of Way that totally dislike the SFAR-GL and instead use always the M1911 to farm the kills

😏 😂

[cloud token]

it has the icon next to it right, like i think the acwr or what ever is a vault weapon

[visual gazelle]

Yeah. Just click on it and you'll see how to unlock them.

[cloud token]

okie dokie, thank you!

[haughty compass]

any idea when new BF is coming out?

this one is utter crap ;d

😄

[chilly jacinth]

cry about it

[onyx jolt]

my guess: 2 years away at least

[mossy badge]

Yeah I am also waiting for next one

Hope next one launch properly or will it be again a disaster I hope not 🙏

[shy latch]

usually every BF comes out every 2-3 years, personally I think they'll release the next one on Q4 2024

[shy latch]

none of the BF had a proper launch (at least I can say from BF4) so get used to it

[wide shore]

One definitely isn’t coming in 2023. I’d be very surprised if it did. We still have at least 2 more seasons which is 6 more months.

[mossy badge]

No that never will be an excuse

[haughty compass]

just upgrading BF4 would be more then enough

[wide shore]

BF1 and BFH had pretty good launches

At least compared to the trash we usually get.

[onyx jolt]

well I just bought 2042 over a year after launch with a huge discount/coupon on epic games...it is OK now imo, still I think it should have real classes and real dedi servers by the community as well

[wide shore]

Well classes are coming probably next week.

So

There’s that

[shy latch]

still have the idea that classes aren't for 2042

[onyx jolt]

also the no-pat story is kinda lame, imo...I would prefer real soldiers

[wide shore]

They’re not. But people have cried too much about it so it’s gonna happen no matter what.

[hidden schooner]

I'm pretty new to bf2042 and was wondering where the normal sensitivity is if there is a "normal" cause I see soldier aim sens but I would assume that is when you are aiming down sight not your normal no aiming sens. Could anyone help?

[shy latch]

mmh, maybe end of January together with the Breakaway rework

[wide shore]

I personally would’ve kept 2042 without classes, kept it as it’s own thing. And just reintroduce them in the next game.

This shoehorn is just a desperate attempt at getting longtime fans back. And it’s clear as day

[shy latch]

it's the very first sensitivity once you select "on foot"

[hidden schooner]

@shy latch wait so it is soldier aim sensitivity?

[shy latch]

that's the hip fire sens, then when you scroll down you see ads sens

[upbeat gust]

^^

if it has such a bad reputation atleast make it unique

[wide shore]

Most people have already made up their minds about 2042. And people who think this class rework is gonna drastically change how the game plays or feels are delusional. If you don’t like how 2042 is right now, you’re not gonna like it with classes

The gunplay, the maps, the vehicle balance, the modes. It all remains the same.

Only difference will be a third gadget slot for people and restrictions on gadgets.

[cloud token]

tried the acwr or acrw or what ever the bf3 weapon and i dunno why but when you have a holographic sight on it, it seems to have shots vanish, i switched back to the iron sights and no issues

[shy latch]

the main problem is that someone says that classes belongs to BF, last time I had an argue with another italian and he was convinced about that, then I replied "so BF must have classes because it's written on the constitution and on the bible, isn't it?"

after that you could imagine what was my next sentence...

[hexed mango]

i mean classes work better. there’s like no teamplay in 2042 cause not a lot of people follow their roles

[rotund grail]

I am not looking forward to the class rework at all.

[wide shore]

They tried something new. Can’t fault them for trying. (I guess some people can.) It’s clear that it wasn’t a popular choice. That’s fine. But backpedaling this hard just kinda feels like folding to me. Like, you had this big idea, and for the most part made 2042 stand out. Good or bad. But they’re just conceding. Why now? Just keep 2042 like 2042 and go back in the next time.

[wide shore]

Brother you act like people follow their roles in other BF games.

[hexed mango]

they do

[eager spire]

I still gotta say it'll be really funny when people run into Mackay with armor and medpen

[wide shore]

Medics still don’t revive. Support players still don’t drop ammo.

[hexed mango]

armor is stupid

[eager spire]

People already hate Mackay.

[hexed mango]

medics do nothing but revive in bf1

[eager spire]

Because he dares to be faster than most reddit users can think.

[magic bloom]

Exactly why I’m gonna start running my shotgun so much more often

[wide shore]

That’s not even true.

[hexed mango]

it is when i play

[next onyx]

Nimble is a problem.

[wide shore]

I get revived just as much in 2042 as I have in every other battlefield game.

[next onyx]

Having a supremely faster ADs speed with every weapon over every character is BS.

[eager spire]

The trait is a problem. The fast strafe speed is not. It just should've been a thing in general.

[wide shore]

And that’s without class restrictions.

[eager spire]

instead of being an exclusive character thing.

[next onyx]

I'd rather a balanced gun ADS speed all across with specific weapons having that like in bf5.

There's very little drawback to using nimble.

Mackay being the "I win" operator.

[magic bloom]

I think there’s no drawbacks

[wide shore]

Only drawback is having to play as MacKay the annoying fucker

[magic bloom]

But he claimed Everest and it’s been all down hill from there frosty

[wide shore]

Dudes first name is Webster cause he’s like Spider-Man

[magic bloom]

Bro is Canadian spider man

[rotund grail]

I do revive when playing medic, but I can't stand the teammates that just hammer the "revive me" button like they are more important than anything or that reviving is my only duty. No way am I going to run in to a insta-death situation just to revive your ass.

[magic bloom]

I revive people like that just so they die again

[wide shore]

All I’m saying, is that we’re still gonna see support players just not using ammo boxes. There’s gonna be less people using M5’s to shoot vehicles, spotting will basically be the same, and assault players will still just be doing assault player shit. This class rework is going to do Jack for teamwork.

[rotund grail]

The class rework is going to suck.

[magic bloom]

I mean the people who already do there job are still going to do that job it won’t change how people already play

If they wanted to blow shit up they’d play engineer and blow shit up

[wide shore]

Only solace will be that engineers have repair tools by default, and recons will have spawn beacons.

[rotund grail]

I think limiting that stuff to certain "classes" just stinks

[magic bloom]

Will they use the repair tool probably not…

[shy latch]

On any BF there is always been team play problem, the only way is to play with friends

[wide shore]

Well according to some people, the arbitrary class system alone will make people play their role.

[visual gazelle]

All Engineers having repair tools is what I'm most looking forward to with the Class system rework. It'll hopefully be like Battlefield V, where I saw more people repairing vehicles than I ever did in a Battlefield game.

[onyx jolt]

will the class rework have weapon restrictions?

[magic bloom]

No thank god

[shy latch]

No

[onyx jolt]

then its no class rework lol

[rotund grail]

it will have gadget restrictions though, and that's bad enough

[magic bloom]

Weapon restrictions for the most part were dumb

[wide shore]

I’ve no doubt that the forced class gadgets will get used. Med pen, defibs, spawn beacon & repair tool

I worry about the other stuff

[magic bloom]

For some classes it made sense (recon) but it’s dumb to make an assault player not carry an SMG

[eager spire]

It won't, but it'll make the game more immediately readable, which was a problem people had with the game prior to this, you couldn't really read what capability any given person will have, like you can't look at someone and say they're a problem because i'm in a vehicle and they've got an M5. Unless they're Lis, and at that point they're a problem cause they exist.

[magic bloom]

It’ll just make targeting the actual good engineers easier Imo

[wide shore]

Support & Medic are the same class now. What’s stopping an Irish from just NOT running an ammo/health box?

Or Falck from not having ammo, or Angel not having health

[shy latch]

plus every class should have a bonus perk for the type of weapons they're using (for instance: snipers will have more seconds to keep the breathe when using bolt actions compared to other classes)

[magic bloom]

I don’t carry health as angel cause I’m cosplaying a Bf3/4 support people can fuck off I already drop 70 revives a game

I do indeed do my job

[wide shore]

Funny enough medics are the most readable class in the game. Since they get highlighted for you when you’re dead.

And yet most of them don’t revive for shit

[eager spire]

that is a fucking hilarious perk though

like that is so situational and borderline useless

[magic bloom]

I will run across an entire field while getting sprayed down with machine guns and tank shells flying next to me just for some dude to not wait 2 seconds and just bleed out

[wide shore]

Make the game more readable? Maybe. Will it drastically increase teamwork? I really doubt it.

[eager spire]

i feel like anyone that claims it'll increase teamwork is on something

and i don't want what they're taking

[wide shore]

I mean, support players not dropping ammo has been a meme for the better part of 2 decades now

[magic bloom]

I carried the ammo pouch and box in BF4 I was the ammo

[wide shore]

We’ve had two games now that let you just grab ammo off support players because they’re so shit

Wish I could just grab the defibs off a medic laying prone on my dead body.

[magic bloom]

I wish they’d bring that back for angel considering you could just take it off his bag

It would make sense

[wide shore]

That’d be neat

But bringing back old features? Hahahahehehs

[rose fiber]

Anyone else getting failed matchmaking for nordvik event?

[wide shore]

Consider yourself lucky

[magic bloom]

You guys know who mackay looks like

Mechanic from hardline

[prisma sphinx]

Yes 😦

[visual gazelle]

Being able to pick up kits from downed players would be nice, just like Battlefield 1 and prior. But with Specialists, it would make no sense.

Imagine Boris suddenly morphing into Falck, lawd.

[wide shore]

Don’t know why they took that out of V and 2042

[cloud token]

these grenade launchers are crazy lol, can get some good kills

[magic bloom]

You had the medics who would grab the support guys lmg and mow down a whole push

[wide shore]

I mean you didn’t suddenly change appearance. You just got their kit.

[rose fiber]

The only problem with taking someone's kit in 2042 would be Sundance I think, unless you would make wingsuit model for all characters

[prisma sphinx]

Looks like I’m gonna miss the this weeks event items since I can’t launch the event

[rose fiber]

I do hope they postpone the rewards since it's already 3 of us that mentioned it so it must be common

[magic bloom]

It ain’t nothing special really

[prisma sphinx]

Lets hope

[rose fiber]

Idc about the mode itself, just rewards

[magic bloom]

That’s what I meant

Only good reward is the Irish skin

[rose fiber]

Shit or not, I want to get all free stuff even if I won't use it xD

[wide shore]

Mmmmm I guess. Unless her wing suit gets disabled picking up another kit.

[magic bloom]

I’d say just disable it if you pick up her kit

[wide shore]

But what if somebody picks up HER kit

[rose fiber]

I was actually thinking about other specialists picking her kit but that as well, tho it wouldn't be hard for sundance to jsut change it to parachute

[wide shore]

Yeah, thinking about it. How would they just get into a wing suit without the suit

[magic bloom]

Id say give the Gadget, grenades and weapons (not her multipurpose grenade)

[wide shore]

Unless they’re Rico from Just Cause

[rose fiber]

Also not sure if this is popular opinion but I do think Sundance should be nerfed to having to open parachute right before landing even with wingsuit

[prisma sphinx]

Thats the Point

[magic bloom]

I’d say she’s decently balanced

Except for wing suit C5

[quaint vector]

Her wingsuit got nerfed, also C5 throw distance was nerfed

[magic bloom]

I wanna get Sundance t1 just cause I love the helmet on her T1 skin

[rose fiber]

Imo combat is way to fast paced, players running like sonic in cqc with new movement speed, sundance droping behind you out of nowhere by crashing into ground with super high speed. Pace should be slower

[magic bloom]

I’m pretty sure they can’t make the pacing of the game slower without making specialists (MACKAY) overpowered

[rose fiber]

I would much rather have Hardline's zipline and grapling hook combined instead of mackay's one

[magic bloom]

Your telling me Ioved hardline

[quaint vector]

I mixed Tier 1 helmet with that burn skin.... Looks...

[magic bloom]

How hard is the Sundance T1 grind

[rose fiber]

I played just for few hours of multiplayer beside singleplayer but zipline was by far the best thing game had

[wide shore]

Harder than it used to be. But her scatter nades are still annoying as fuck.

[quaint vector]

Got her within week and half

[wide shore]

So probably not so bad

[rose fiber]

I'm still at 50/1200 with Sundance even after a year, tho I don't really main her

[quaint vector]

Also.. I got Tier 1 on Sundance when she had 2 granades

[magic bloom]

I remember the EMP nade

[quaint vector]

Yeah, but not used by most players

[hexed mango]

late reply but tbh i’m glad they aren’t restricting guns with the way the specialists work, but gadgets makes sense ngl, seeing as there are some “favored” gadgets in a way, and i’d rather not have my medics be running recoilless’ all the time

[magic bloom]

I think it counted when you disrupted players no?

[wide shore]

People who thought BF1 nade spam was bad clearly never played 128bt when Sundance had 2 scatter grenades

[quaint vector]

No, that's why it was not used.

[hexed mango]

i’m assuming you mean like 2 to throw not the diff types which was 3 back then

[eager spire]

i mean anyone who thought BF1 was bad likely aren't playing 2042 anyway

[hexed mango]

but i did like that emp grenade that sundance had lol

[quaint vector]

But it didn't counted for Assists..💀

[wide shore]

I’m talking about the grenade spam, not the game itself.

[eager spire]

Just saying.

[magic bloom]

Bro?

[rose fiber]

I'm surprised Warzone has slower player movement than BF now

[shy latch]

they didn't, vehicles are ridiculous on CoD

[magic bloom]

The helicopters handle like garbage

[rose fiber]

Vehicles are indeed shit but player movement and gunplay areway better

[wide shore]

They didn’t. Ground War feels like “we have Battlefield at home”

[magic bloom]

I hate the recoil the dude is just letting the gun beat the shit out of him like he isn’t even holding onto it

A .308 I could kind of understand but a 5.56 isn’t gonna jump like that even on full auto

[shy latch]

gunplay is also meh on CoD, that visual recoil is really annoying

[eager spire]

MWII is literally just MW19 but worse and Activision can't keep getting away with it