battlefield-2042

[hexed mango]

amiens better

[pearl ridge]

Amiens is the best urban map in the series

[hexed mango]

[pearl ridge]

No air shitters, no rooftop snipers, plenty of routes and cover

[hexed mango]

plenty of window snipers tho

[pearl ridge]

Eh those are way easier to deal with

[hexed mango]

god why can’t more walls in 2042 be destroyed

like the internal walls on spearhead should be able to be blasted with c5 bruh

it’s so stupid the lack of destructible walls and buildings in 2042 main game

[pearl ridge]

I had to pull a railgun on Kaleidoscope because there was this one sniper like half a kilometre away who kept fucking with me.

[hexed mango]

the portal maps have pretty decent destruction, it’s just ass that those maps aren’t all that great overall

[pearl ridge]

Two shots, max.

[hexed mango]

lol

i kept getting railed (hehe) on breakaway today cause that map is ass

[pearl ridge]

I just grabbed the 3x scope and blew his head off

And then went back to doing my frigging job.

[hexed mango]

i’m also very very mad that they changed the exposure layout sometime late S1 to whatever it is now cause it’s shit on BT rn

it was fine before dunno why they messed with it

ok i should probably attempt to drift to sleep, it’s 3 am

[celest oar]

is there a way to set two different fps limit for menu and ingame?

[chilly jacinth]

nope

[celest oar]

[lone void]

30fps menu console moment

[pine roost]

i'm not quite sure why the bf tracker website hasn't updated to display my actual stats

[chilly jacinth]

skill issue perhaps

[visual horizon]

i had to delete the game to install LEGO Harry Potter, forgive me developers

[pine roost]

Probably

[arctic grove]

is this game worth it

2042

[pine roost]

Been doing really well recently and wanted to see if it’s changed any overall stats

[visual horizon]

if it's on sale

[arctic grove]

Only if it's on a sale, like right now

[broken horizon]

is it safe to update nvidia gpu driver to 527.56 (rtx portal) ?

[chilly jacinth]

your gpu will blow up

[rose osprey]

So I finally got back in game again after so long. VCAR is actually quite decent now, still outclassed by other guns, but definitely more accurate compared to last time

Boris is officially trash. The sentry is useless as ever

[royal swan]

Need to buff boris

[next onyx]

VCAR outclassed?

dude.

It's unironically decent now.

[upbeat sand]

Just click faster

[arctic grove]

12MM is overrated

[chilly jacinth]

no

[fleet ocean]

do solo activities count towards specialist mastery progression

like playing against bots

[clever marlin]

I don’t believe past 20 no.

[topaz field]

New Mackay unlimited web slinger if you bunny hop

Devs can you patch this ASAP

https://twitter.com/hatena_games/status/1608396893058641920?t=MFxY8U7MSre3Up0WhzHNSA&s=19

[hallow sierra]

that always been a thing for a while now

[chilly jacinth]

thats old as shit

[vivid onyx]

SS all the cheaters and hopefully they get banned for violating TOS

[chilly jacinth]

what cheaters?

[magic bloom]

The cheaters that aren’t there?

[chilly jacinth]

funnily enough i got called a cheater by my team yesterday because i went 89-15 on renewal

[visual horizon]

standard performance, they're just bad

[solid imp]

It's the easy complaint to make

Zain makes me look like I'm cheating. My kd hovers at 1.6 or 1.8 depending on the specialist. Zain is up at 2.7 lol

[green mantle]

Hi I can’t find my friend through the search option he’s on Xbox and I’m on ps5

Any ideas guys

[still vault]

https://help.ea.com/en-tr/help/battlefield/battlefield-2042/battlefield-2042-cross-play

[modest ivy]

new gamemode in a nutshell

[hallow sierra]

im beginning to no understand the game logic

[modest ivy]

It would be so much better if it worked like actual breakthrough, with more players, and the mcoms spread out more in the end

[next onyx]

I'm sitting on a 3.5 KPM last time I checked for Zain.

Which is fucking absurd.

Op it dropped to 3.39.

Which is still big.

[pearl ridge]

Self-regen for every kill, automatic grenade launcher, plus whatever gadget you want

[next onyx]

Not really automatic.

[pearl ridge]

Dude's stupid powerful and I refuse to use him

[next onyx]

I personally love the utility of the XM launcher.

It's why I use him.

[pearl ridge]

Mostly because I can't get the damn airburst to work but still

[next onyx]

It's sort of simple but you need to know what you're doing.

Lock onto the desired object, Fire around it and it'll detonate right behind it.

[pearl ridge]

You need to be able to judge distance by eye in a game where distance seems... flexible.

[next onyx]

You can use danger pings to judge the distance which can help at further ranges.

AT least.

And if you're familiar with the ranges it's sort of easy.

That kind of thing.

I just love blowing people off the cranes on Manifest.

The rats complaining that a launcher can take them out of their little hidey hole.

[arctic grove]

Portal is missing team switch menu

[pine roost]

And after playing against it for a while, the ttk is long enough to allow you to move away which I hoped it would

[chilly jacinth]

it takes 3 to kill you

4 if youre dozer

[pine roost]

You can just barely make it out, but it’s still not at all forgiving

[chilly jacinth]

so if you have any sort of reaction time you can get away

[pine roost]

Trouble is I keep forgetting to press my clip button

Had a few good moments but they are lost forever

[vital mauve]

Long hair and beard Mackay skin is prob one of the best we’ve gotten

Use it with the black suit

[next onyx]

I wish if it was a 4HK sometimes but if they intend to keep its current TTK they should make the recharge a little longer.

[pearl ridge]

The health regen should require a minimum time after taking damage for it to actually kick in

So you can't just regen right out of a gunfight

Or, better yet, find a different bloody perk.

[next onyx]

All it does is cut the regen delay out.

If you risk it and get the kill you deserve it.

Zain relies on it.

[pine roost]

Love that part of his kit

The XM just feels cheesy

[chilly jacinth]

it sure is

basically free kills

cause people arent smart

[topaz field]

Wait until C5

I mean

Claymore

[pearl ridge]

Yeah that's the problem

[next onyx]

...Why is it bad to rely on a heal that requires you risking your own life for a kill?

[pine roost]

It’s like grenade throwing. If you take the risk of running closer to it to throw it back you are rewarded for it

[chilly jacinth]

or it hits a dust grain and bounces back and kills you anyways

[pearl ridge]

Okay but literally everyone else has to win gunfights and don't get free heals out of it

[magic bloom]

What if you just hit a med pen

[pearl ridge]

It's not anymore a risk than any other specialist

[magic bloom]

That heals 3x as fast as Zain

[chilly jacinth]

anyone running hp box or Falck doesnt count

or med pen users

[pearl ridge]

Medpens are for nancies

I hate those self-serving gadgets, between them and armour plates.

[magic bloom]

Doesn’t matter you could still use it and be more effective

[pearl ridge]

Or you could just carry a rocket and actually do something useful.

[magic bloom]

Zain is a high risk and reward character for his passive

[chilly jacinth]

or im just gonna kill people and cap flags

[magic bloom]

Or think about this some people don’t wanna do that

[chilly jacinth]

and throw ammo boxes around

[magic bloom]

They gave us the freedom of choice for a reason

[pearl ridge]

Risk: gunfights (everyone gets in them already, if you're not, you're not doing your frigging job)
Reward: free heals for winning gunfights

What's the point

That's not a risk

That's the game.

[magic bloom]

You don’t have to get in gunfights to do your job

[pearl ridge]

Kind of have to if you're frigging Zain because you sure as shit aren't going to be doing much else

Gah I hate Assaults

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[magic bloom]

Zain is literally the definition of an assault style character that’s his job is to assault

He does his job perfectly

[chilly jacinth]

he really is the perfect assault

can almost always push forward

and clean out the rats

[magic bloom]

His job isn’t to carry a rocket launcher, ammo or med supplies his job is to kill and and cap objectives

And his passive is perfect at that

[pearl ridge]

Self-serving gadgets can fuck right off.

Contribute to the team or gtfo far as I'm concerned.

[chilly jacinth]

its all about how you use them

[sharp marten]

Are you dude who wanted battlefield to be like ace combat

[magic bloom]

Ok so a vehicle player carrying a blowtorch to repair his transport heli is self serving

[pearl ridge]

I'm the dude who's sick of fighting fucking Russians.

[sharp marten]

Yeah I remember you

Asto I wouldn’t take this seriously

[pearl ridge]

I'd rather deal with bloody China

At least they look like they could put up a fight.

[chilly jacinth]

lmao

[magic bloom]

I’m just proving my point

[sharp marten]

This dude literally foamed from the mouth about ace combat

[magic bloom]

Ace combat is mid as fuck

[sharp marten]

And ace combat is ass

[pearl ridge]

I literally was just saying that a constructed world with fictional nations is inherently more compelling to me than having fucking yanks and russians fighting each other for the fiftieth time

[sharp marten]

That’s mid

[pearl ridge]

Because I know for a goddamn fact that it wouldn't last five minutes.

[magic bloom]

Also peep the angel drip

[pearl ridge]

I've always known that Russia was full of shit, and while I am not opposed to killing some goddamn vatniks, I'd rather not give them the dignity of actually being considered an equal.

[magic bloom]

I mean we didn’t know how weak their military was when this game was released

That’s not a dev issue

[pearl ridge]

It's the same tier as something set in WW2 acting like America and Italy was a fair fight that totally could end up with Italian soldiers marching on New York

Oh I always knew they were a lot weaker than they were letting on.

I just didn't think they were this incompetent.

Like shit, pull your dick out of the woodchipper already.

[next onyx]

You do know people run falck and can heal instantly right after a gunfight right.

People with medpens too.

[pearl ridge]

Falck can heal others

[magic bloom]

can

[fiery shoal]

[pearl ridge]

And she needs to actually pull out her medigun to do so

[next onyx]

Yeah and she can still heal herself much faster than zain after a kill.

[sharp marten]

It’s like talking to a wall I swear

[pearl ridge]

Rather than magically starting healing immediately

[magic bloom]

Most of the time they sit with their dick in their hand

[next onyx]

Zains healing works as if he's regenerating health like normal.

The kill cuts that delay.

[pine roost]

You can still equip a team based gadget with him for the time being

[next onyx]

It's no or less powerful than falck.

[pine roost]

You aren’t sacrificing that option for self heals like a med pen would

[next onyx]

Is the passive powerful? Yes.
Is it over whelming? I don't really think so.

[chilly jacinth]

you dont actually have to pull out Falcks med gun to heal

[magic bloom]

If Zain was balanced any other way he’d probably be overpowered unless he was just completely cucked

[next onyx]

If you want overwhelming look at Mackay with nimble.

He breaks the game.

[magic bloom]

But most Zain players are incompetent and you can get the drop on then before they heal very much health

[pine roost]

Can’t play anyone else after playing with his strafe speed

[next onyx]

And you won't be killing me with ease!

[pearl ridge]

Bloody PC players always get all the agility

[next onyx]

Yeah after playing as Zain I've sort of adapted.

[pearl ridge]

You can pick them out super easy because they sort of wobble in a fight

[magic bloom]

You think that til I triple tap you with that 12 gauge buckshot way

[sharp marten]

BLOODY

[next onyx]

I'll be the one out ranging you with the scar.

[pine roost]

So glad they are buffing strafe speeds overall

[sharp marten]

way toss a brother some boins

[next onyx]

My boins!

[magic bloom]

Fr I need some pls

[pearl ridge]

Dude nobody needs to strafe faster

[sharp marten]

[pearl ridge]

That just benefits the ADADADA shitters

[next onyx]

Actually no I don't use the scar as much anymore.

Cause I got it to 30k.

I'm an xm8 main.

Literally smack dab on 30k.

[fiery shoal]

isnt zains healing slow to get to full though? i thought he just started healing fast, not that he heals fast

[sharp marten]

I saw you get it to T1 but samzies Xm8 on top

[next onyx]

A kill cuts his healing delay out.

And he starts healing like a normal soldier.

[fiery shoal]

right, and normal soldier healing is slow

not like falck where it kicks to full within .25 seconds

[sharp marten]

[next onyx]

Yeah I wouldn't say it's slow that's the weird part.

But maybe that's because the healing delay being cut out sorta just does that.

[magic bloom]

Lemme load my slugs with my 3x scope

My fault for the ping

[fiery shoal]

i feel like healing from 25 to 100 takes a couple of seconds still, even with his trait

[magic bloom]

Forgot to turn it off

[next onyx]

Yeah it takes a little but if you pace it you're fine.

[fiery shoal]

actually just found this exact scenario

https://youtu.be/pDftqzXoMns?t=245

(timestamped to where he gets down to 25 health)

[magic bloom]

Unless your a god at the game like way you’ll probably die a lot

[pearl ridge]

I just want the shotguns to not suck.

[fiery shoal]

takes 4.5 seconds to get to full health even with his passive

[pearl ridge]

They're genuinely so goddamn inconsistent

[magic bloom]

The NVK-S22 is really good

It just takes 10 years to reload from empty

[pearl ridge]

I've had multiple cases where I've thumped someone at point blank range and they take like 20% damage

[magic bloom]

I can consistently one tap with it to the lower body

You using the flachette ammo?

[pearl ridge]

It's like half the pellets just disappear.

Haven't seen a worse shotgun since that rotary magazine one from 4.

[fiery shoal]

it takes zain seconds longer to get to full health vs med pen.. isnt med pain also slower than falck as well?

[pearl ridge]

And at least that had rate of fire on its side.

[magic bloom]

Med pen is fastest

[fiery shoal]

i really question that, pulling out med pen and shooting the ground is really fast

if med pen does beat it i feel its by less than a second

[pearl ridge]

Not if you're on controller...

[fleet ocean]

med pen is way faster than falck

[magic bloom]

I like how the light on my helmet for Irish actually lights up

[pearl ridge]

Which Battlefield game has the shortest shotgun range?

[magic bloom]

BF1 probably

[pearl ridge]

Because whatever it is, that's basically what the ones in 2042 are stuck at while every other gun has had its effective range significantly lengthened

[fiery shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD6-IV7LWRk

[pearl ridge]

They just plain suck now and I don't want them to suck

And they aren't even satisfying to use!

[chilly jacinth]

considering im still topping the team with shotguns

i think its just a skill issue

[fiery shoal]

yeaaa pretty sure falcks quick heal is very similar to med pen, maybe even faster

[pearl ridge]

Yeah I did that too. If that happens, your team fucking sucks.

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[fiery shoal]

https://youtu.be/S4FAsuX4KmY?t=23

at least counting the time it takes to heal in both of these videos its close

med pen seems to take 1.5 seconds for the animation to kick in to start healing

falck quick heal takes like... 1 second

[pearl ridge]

The med pen is designed to make players independent from medics.

[fiery shoal]

cool? doesnt mean its faster than falcks self heal

[pearl ridge]

Which is bad design honestly, but it should be weaker than a dedicated medic

[fiery shoal]

well it seemingly is

[chilly jacinth]

it is slower than medic heals

[vivid onyx]

Just learn half cheater got banned from game. This isnt a joke

[chilly jacinth]

what

[magic bloom]

Hardline also had it

Lol

[fiery shoal]

though the intended self heal animation for falck seems to be the same speed as medpen, maybe even slower

[magic bloom]

I wish you could use med pen on squad mates

But with falck you could just shoot the dart at the floor

[fiery shoal]

kind of just went over all of that

[pearl ridge]

Haven't once had those stupid darts actually get picked up.

[fiery shoal]

when shooting the ground to self heal?

[pearl ridge]

Fuck this just give me throwable medpacks

They're bigger.

[chilly jacinth]

shoot the people not the ground

cause people are clueless

[pearl ridge]

OBVIOUSLY

[fiery shoal]

im at least talking about shooting the ground for fast self heals

instead of using the self heal animation for falck

[pearl ridge]

Being a medic in V was so much better

[fiery shoal]

ehhhhhh

[chilly jacinth]

ye

[fiery shoal]

i mained medic in bfv and mained falck for 2042

2042 medic way better

[magic bloom]

It really is

[pearl ridge]

Why? Heal distance is the same but now if the other guy is moving at all the dart will fucking miss

[fiery shoal]

the biggest perk is being able to shuffle while reviving, instead of getting sucked into a locked animation

[pearl ridge]

Animations good, actually.

Smoke em.

[fiery shoal]

id argue healing, both teammates and self, is roughly the same

i smoke in both titles, being able to move while reviving, even a little, is objectively the better choice for the player

[pearl ridge]

It's a balancing factor so you can't just run willy-nilly into danger

[fiery shoal]

thats a consideration for both titles...

[pearl ridge]

And also the syringe is much better feeling than the stupid magic defib

All these bullet-induced heart attacks

[fiery shoal]

i really dont care about the real life logistics of these scenarios

reviving someone could be a tickle for all i care

[chilly jacinth]

its not like the magic liquid in the syringe is any better

[fiery shoal]

i care about the benefit to gameplay the systems have, and 2042 is better for medics

[fiery shoal]

yea also that...

[pearl ridge]

It's adrenaline and morphine and shit. You know, the sort of thing you'd use to get someone back on their feet.

[fiery shoal]

if youre saying bfv medics are better because the revive animation uses syringes instead of defibs i think your priorities are fucked

[chilly jacinth]

there aint no way you're getting back up after getting totally shredded

sorry to say

[pearl ridge]

Because fucking zapping them is so much more likely to help

[next onyx]

I'd say bf5 medic was better because of how they treated med pouches with the magnet.

Not because of how some animation works that gets me the same result in the end.

[chilly jacinth]

both are realistically not possible

[next onyx]

I'd argue jabbing someone with a needle is even worse.

[fiery shoal]

range was pretty weak, and at least as falck the magnetism is for her syringe is extremely forgiving

[magic bloom]

But it’s full of meth probably

[next onyx]

I'd rather magnetism over range.

[pearl ridge]

It really isn't

[magic bloom]

I mean the Germans ate chocolate full of it

[next onyx]

On hardline it's adrenaline

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[fiery shoal]

you have like... 15 degrees of magnetism my dude...

[next onyx]

We had both an epi pen and defibs to restart the heart.

[pearl ridge]

It fucking misses all the time

[magic bloom]

Literally kickstart your bros heart

[fiery shoal]

YOU miss all the time

i dont

[pearl ridge]

They could be standing still all highlighted and it still misses

[fiery shoal]

which like.. the game does 80% of the work for you so idk what to tell you

[pearl ridge]

Because it's goddamn projectile based, which means latency and crap

[next onyx]

There is a bit of a hitreg problem I've noticed even when I lead it well but for the most part it works.

[magic bloom]

Yeah most of the time it works for me

Angel is where it gets iffy

[fiery shoal]

as long as the character is highlighted ive only questioned it not hitting very few times

[pearl ridge]

How many fucking times do you people have to go "hee-hoo skill issue" in response to obvious design flaws

These things Did Not Happen in V.

[fiery shoal]

if im calling out skill issue its within reason, i dont default to that for memes

[next onyx]

Angel with the magnetism is fine I can't say an issue with that.

[fiery shoal]

i get sweeping everyone under a rug is easy, but thats not the case

[next onyx]

I want lunchbox angel.

Refill 50 fast health and start natural regen.

[pearl ridge]

Angel's problem seems to be more related to everyone just dying before they even reload

[next onyx]

And restock bullet ammo.

[pearl ridge]

Why does nobody ever need ammo

[next onyx]

Because ammo box.

I cheesed his tier 1 with ammo box haha.

[fiery shoal]

because 80% of people suck and die before they use a mag anyway

[next onyx]

I need ammo box to refill my drum mags.

So I'm always running that.

[pearl ridge]

Thing is, I could run support in 1 and V and throw ammo all damn day

[next onyx]

There's always a need for ammo.

[fiery shoal]

you dont fall into the 80% of people that sucks though

[next onyx]

I consume bullets.

[pearl ridge]

But Angel suddenly can't find anyone who needs it?

[next onyx]

Bullets.

[magic bloom]

If I were in your games you would get ammo from across the map

I an the definition of the BF4 support guy

[fiery shoal]

yeaa i should try other characters...

[magic bloom]

“Here’s your ammo go get it”

[chilly jacinth]

i got angel to t1 in 30hrs

and thats pretty fast

so id say you can def find people who need ammo

[pearl ridge]

Do you ever get pissed off at tanks

[fiery shoal]

no

smoke and leave

i also play conquest only and run beacon so the chances of me getting spawn trapped is extremely unlikely

[next onyx]

I have over 1000 hours on bf5 support.

[magic bloom]

No I’m a rao player if he looks at me his abilities get fucked

[fiery shoal]

@next onyx finally tried burst g57 as a primary, its good but not nearly as busted as people tried to suggest

[chilly jacinth]

i got one bursted by that shit today

[fiery shoal]

like its actually a secondary that can function as a primary and does challenge a lot of smgs

but.. that doesnt make it busted in general, just busted for a secondary

[next onyx]

It's nasty but I think it needs a small tune on its burst rpm.

[fiery shoal]

one bursts are extremely satisfying, though rare, even for someone like me

[magic bloom]

They really did add a glock with a switch on it in this game

[next onyx]

I have thrown down 18k ammo crates.

[fiery shoal]

on which account...

[next onyx]

How many on bf5 I need to see.

[fiery shoal]

cant imagine your combined stats

[next onyx]

On my 2042.

[chilly jacinth]

imma check how many boxes ive thrown

[fiery shoal]

dont you have time on xbox and pc though?

[next onyx]

Hahaha!

[chilly jacinth]

only about 27k boxes thrown for me

[next onyx]

Xbox and pc 2042 stats are connected. @fiery shoal

[chilly jacinth]

but ive thrown 37.5k nades

[next onyx]

On bf5 pc I barely played it.

[fiery shoal]

ahhhh didnt know that

[next onyx]

Bf5 oce pc is a shitfest.

I get banned for being a good player from whattaxi.

[chilly jacinth]

now thats a real skill issue

[next onyx]

He calls everyone who is good a cheater.

[chilly jacinth]

just be worse than him

then youre good

[next onyx]

So whenever I see him on 2042 I give him a colonosopy with my 40mm GL.

[chilly jacinth]

[next onyx]

I should join in using a controller, crouch run with the sten.

[pearl ridge]

BFV OCE PC in general is a shitfest

I hate this region man.

[next onyx]

Pc is even worse.

Believe me when I say it.

[chilly jacinth]

real sweatfest hours every day

im glad im not in OCE

[next onyx]

It's not even that.

It's just cancer shotgun clans and hackers.

[magic bloom]

Hey now what’s wrong with shotguns

[pearl ridge]

Honestly, shotguns really aren't that bad in V, though the Model 37 is objectively better than everything else

[next onyx]

The instant kills.

It's what I hate the most.

[pearl ridge]

As if you don't do that yourself, come on.

[next onyx]

I got that stupid model 37 to 10k and I hate it.

I don't play with shotguns anymore whereas possible.

[pearl ridge]

The M30 Drilling is where it's at.

[next onyx]

If I get it gold / tier 1 that's all I'm doing.

[pearl ridge]

Two shells, enough to kill anything that moves.

[next onyx]

Hardlines DBS was the most balanced and fun shotgun I've used.

I got it gold.

I would run around with it sawed off if I needed to.

[magic bloom]

Boins

[next onyx]

Just rush into people's faces.

[tranquil turtle]

aircraft mains too

[next onyx]

I enjoyed bf5's planes. Helicopters though? Mhh.

Hardline had better helicopters which worked in the context of the game.

All arms could damage them in varying degrees of success.

A battle rifle / lmg did the most.

But that's about it.

[magic bloom]

The fuckin swat boys rollin up in a helicopter with mini guns bolted onto the side of it

[next onyx]

Hahaha.

That's how I always ran mine.

The range wasn't too crazy.

[pearl ridge]

Sounds like Hardline had its shit sorted out

[next onyx]

But it was enough to keep them effective.

M3m's were scary as hell to deal with.

They were pretty much browning's.

[magic bloom]

I Miss the canted red dots

[next onyx]

They overheated very quickly but could turn a vehicle to scrap with ease.

[magic bloom]

And the Dino mask

[next onyx]

I always ran the motorcycle helmet when I could.

[magic bloom]

Me and my cousin always ran the .50 cals

[next onyx]

Scar H enjoyer here.

Fn fal was crazy busted.

I almost got a hundred kill bomb with that thing on my first few matches using it.

[magic bloom]

Way you’d own a scar H irl. If you could wouldn’t you

[next onyx]

I'd love to own a SCAR.

Its a cool rifle.

[magic bloom]

They’re quite fun

Although parts don’t exist and they’re extremely expensive

Like any FN gun

[next onyx]

It's not a particularly special rifle but I just love the idea of a dedicated battle rifle.

I'm not familiar with that part. I'm more concerned what calibre a gun fires and how the gun deals with it for the operator.

[magic bloom]

Scar thumb lol

When the charging handle slammed backwards and about broke your thumb

[next onyx]

It's why I'm looking at the SIG MCX, With the new NATO 6.8 fury round kicking slightly harder than 5.56 but hitting a lot harder.

[magic bloom]

Oh yeah

I don’t think we can buy those yet sadly

[next onyx]

And the fact they're upgrading the m416 with 6.8? That is amazing.

Oh I don't care about buying one.

[magic bloom]

The MCX spear is extremely hot

[next onyx]

I want to observe the results.

I'm in Australia I'm not crazy about owning a gun, I couldn't give less of a shit.

[magic bloom]

I wanna see the new LMG they’re bringing out

[next onyx]

I'm more into how the gun works.

The XM250?

[magic bloom]

I feel bad for you

[next onyx]

That's an interesting gun.

[magic bloom]

And yes

[next onyx]

Bad in which way?

[magic bloom]

The fact you can’t own cool stuffs

[pearl ridge]

Way I know it’s rich coming from me but why tf you still up

[next onyx]

Eh that's true. But I also don't need to stress about it.

Because I crashed yesterday and woke up at midnight.

[magic bloom]

I mean I could in theory own a mini gun if I find one that’s old enough

[next onyx]

Micro gun with 5.56 yes.

[spiral folio]

Theres like 3 or so grandfathered miniguns

GL

[magic bloom]

Most of the ones you could own are in Mexico now sadly

[magic bloom]

Buy a tri barrel 50 cal mini gun

[spiral folio]

You can own a hand cranked gatling gun

[magic bloom]

I don’t Even thing the ATF classify those are firearms since they’re Black powder

I don’t Know though

[spiral folio]

You could own it in 9mm luger or anything

Because it has to be "manually operated per shot"

[magic bloom]

I also think antique guns fall under that too

Like old revolvers

[spiral folio]

Antique arms i thiiink are 1890 and earlier

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[spiral folio]

My grandpas old argentine mauser falls into that, but like a ww1 mauser wont if it was made just a tiny bit later

[magic bloom]

But aren’t Mausers exempt since they’re historical guns (not antiques)

[spiral folio]

I think if a shop were to buy/sell one theyd still have to do the whole FFL shebang

You can get "some" ww1 rifles as antique because a lot were made before 1890

[magic bloom]

That’s just dumb

Bring the Mauser to bf2042

[solid rune]

hind squad anyone?

[spiral folio]

A lot of modern bolt actions use very similar actions to a mauser anyway

[magic bloom]

I know some still use it

[spiral folio]

And modern munitions burn hotter and more aerodynamic anyway

[magic bloom]

It’s like how modern 30-06 slowly destroys M1 Garands

[spiral folio]

Well or like how 6.5 and 6.8 are taking over

[magic bloom]

6.8 m1 Garand

[spiral folio]

Ruger makes a m1 action semi auto rifle in a few calibers

The mini14

Oh nm just 556 and 7.62

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[spiral folio]

They made a "carbine" out of the ruger 57 but its literally the same action as the pistol

The bolt is just internal instead of a slide

Itd be neat to have like a mini14 in 5.7

[clever marlin]

I really want a modernized M9 making its way into 2042

[spiral folio]

A modern m9?

Like.. a glock?

Modern 9mm is kind of an ironic term in itself since the round is like a century old

[arctic grove]

M9A3

[clever marlin]

Or like the P320 but modernized into the world of 2042

[spiral folio]

The Sig 320 is the current sidearm yea

[clever marlin]

I can’t see the us or Russian military adapting the Glock

[spiral folio]

Means unless something suuper amazing comes along it'll be the current sidearm by 2042

[magic bloom]

I mean it’s technically in the game it’s the MP28 Just in a chassis system

[arctic grove]

M17/M18

[spiral folio]

Twelve companies entered the fray, including the Beretta APX,Ceská zbrojovka's CZ P-09, FN Herstal's Five-Seven Mk 2 handgun, the General Dynamics and Smith & Wesson M&P, the full-sized Glock 17 and compact Glock 19; and the Sig Sauer P320. Sig Sauer and Glock were selected as finalists last December.

As of 2017 so old

[clever marlin]

I should have bought a P320 instead of an M9 yesterday

[arctic grove]

Sig beat both Glock and Beretta anyways, plus RU would never buy from us for any standard issue weapons

Or anything at all really

[magic bloom]

But yes I run the MP28 cause it’s a M17

[spiral folio]

The FN 57 lost but thise are insanely expensive

[magic bloom]

Plus 5.7 isn’t really that good of a cartridge

[spiral folio]

The ruger 57 is like 700, the FN57 is in the 1200 area

5.7 is better vs armored targets than 9

[clever marlin]

I think of it as mini 5.56

[spiral folio]

Ie vests not tanks

[magic bloom]

Yeah but that’s only with expensive steel core ammo

[spiral folio]

Tactical units use the p90 because 5.7 doesnt over penetrate like 9 too

No actually

[clever marlin]

Also kinda weird that 5.7 still exists in the game in the form of the PF51

[magic bloom]

Keltec our lord and savior

[spiral folio]

Standard 5.7 will penetrate kevlar

Surface area is the main thing

[clever marlin]

Eh… not a massive fan of Keltec

They make good firearms

[spiral folio]

Somanyscrews

[magic bloom]

Since when was that a thing a year ago it was only steel core ammo that would do it consistently

[clever marlin]

But that aren’t… nice looking

[spiral folio]

Depends how thick the kevlar is but most vests wont

9 definitely wont cause surface area

[magic bloom]

I know supposedly the 6.8 absolutely fucks ceramic plates

[spiral folio]

Yea 9 wont do shit to a plate for sure

Neither will 5.7

But like nobody uses plates

Most "near peer adversaries" dont even

Wonder who they mean

[magic bloom]

China definitely doesn’t

Chinas guns are also extremely bad

[clever marlin]

Yeah because it’s 6.5x51

[spiral folio]

NK had a parade with badly faked armor

[clever marlin]

6.5x51 KICKS

[magic bloom]

The bullets come out the gun fragmented and twirling

[spiral folio]

And spiral mags the length of the AK

[clever marlin]

It’s no where near as bad as 7.62x51mm but it’s still got kick

[clever marlin]

That’s why you never cheap out on barrels

Ya know, the thing that makes the bullet travel

And the gas piston work

[magic bloom]

Yes

[spiral folio]

They make an extended threaded barrel for the ruger 5.7 but it only adds half an inch.. and not cheap

Like 350

Cause 5.7s nuts

It's like 60000 psi

[magic bloom]

I mean I’m glad more companies are making guns to use it so hopefully FN gets off their ass and makes ammo cheaper for it

50 dollars for 50 rounds of the cheap shit

[spiral folio]

Yea a 50 box is like 55 bucks for FN ammo. Federal is barely cheaper

[clever marlin]

Holy balls

[spiral folio]

I said my brother could fire it a few times A FEW cause...yea

[magic bloom]

Not to mention the stuff that might actually go through body armor is running upwards of like 80

[spiral folio]

And hes not getting my FNs

Yea i... barely know what I'm doin

[magic bloom]

Can just feel my wallet hurting after half a mag

[spiral folio]

Im not spending 80 bucks on ammo that I'll (hopefully) never need

[magic bloom]

I mean that’s why I carry shotgun

[spiral folio]

The FN ones were polytip ones

[magic bloom]

It may not go through the body armor but it’ll probably smash someone’s rib cage in if it hits center mass

[spiral folio]

Yea cant imagine somebody thst prepared for my place

But 20rd just in case

[magic bloom]

I mean no one likes little hot pieces of metal coming at them at 1000 fps

Doesn’t really matter what it is

[granite island]

Please people

Use agm missiles when using little birds

[magic bloom]

I do

There’s no reason not to

[upbeat gust]

fr

why use the anti-personnel rockets honestly

the miniguns are enough

[magic bloom]

It’s nice for new pilots

[upbeat gust]

that's why it's a starter weapon for it

if you manage to get enough kills you probably already know how to aim the miniguns

[tame cobalt]

exposure cq128 is a god tier map

stranded is so disappointing in comparison

[fiery shoal]

hmmm ive not played exposure since update...

i keep getting manifest and renewal

[tame cobalt]

bruh moment

thoughts on the new mode in the event?

[fiery shoal]

i like those maps so thats good at least, but i just realized ive not played some new remakes

havent played the new mode

i always just play 128 conquest

[mental delta]

It sucks dude

[tame cobalt]

this game's world would feel so much cooler if it didn't have premade characters

ngl

[mental delta]

I thought the same

It should have basic factions

Like on BF1 for example in which factions depended on the map you were playing on

[tame cobalt]

I think the no pat thing is cool where your soldiers fight for both sides

i just don't like the premade characters

having a predefined face and voice and personality and story

it would feel cooler if everyone made their own nopat classes

[mental delta]

I prefer random grunts or customizable characters like in BFV but who don't have any personality

[mental delta]

You can just have hopes for the next game

[modest dirge]

[tame cobalt]

yes, they should just iterate on the bfv customisation

without elites

[mental delta]

Yes it was really good, idk if Dice is aware it was appreciated though

[tame cobalt]

i think it maybe didn't get a lot of purchases cuz people don't really care about the ww2 soldier customisation

near future customisation options are more varied and enticing

[winged pasture]

They should improve animations

[tame cobalt]

meh

[chilly jacinth]

How about you improve yourself

[mossy badge]

they need to improve everything

[arctic grove]

DICE isnt capable of self aware

[winged pasture]

True

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

[mental delta]

I don't think they really take in notes player's feedbacks and complaints

[still vault]

The customization lots of the community said were a waste of time / not Battlefield? 😄

[tame cobalt]

Yes

The problem is they didn't think about classes with the customisation

There's no distinguishing features between the classes

[arctic grove]

People don’t know what they got till it’s gone. Now everyone wants Vs customization again. I’d say bring it back

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[mental delta]

One thing is sure I'll never miss specialists if they get rid off it

[arctic grove]

I already miss 128 because I know they’re gonna box it up

128, probably plus menu, 2042 map themes

[tame cobalt]

Yep

Thry will pivot too hard in the other direction, just like they pivoted too hard away from bfv

[magic bloom]

Even though those are all great

Map theme are eh

But the other two

[arctic grove]

bfv was harshly criticized in my opinion

game wasn't so bad

and mostly women sht

I always hated the arguments that V maps had better color or a better soundtrack when all 2042 is doing is simply it’s own theme, which I think it did well

Don’t need vibrant colors or beautiful instruments in a game who’s lore is TLDR world has gone to shit and two of the last global superpowers are scrambling for resources

that ain't no problem at all

[arctic grove]

What a shit time for this franchise

Was probably annoying for most women fans

[tame cobalt]

the visuals are pretty bad compared to bfv tho

[arctic grove]

I dunno what you mean by visuals

I’m not talking about the games maps tho since I haven’t played the game much, I’m just saying I think 2042 is in its own lane with its themes and soundtrack n stuff, nothing wrong with that games maps

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

But like, 2042 doesn’t have to be just like it. Does it’s own thing well with the maps themes which don’t have nearly as much bright colors on purpose

But apparently that makes them shit to some people because it’s not the same

[tame cobalt]

The issue for me isn't with the direction of the visuals (whether it has bright colors or not), my problem is with the execution

the end product of what you see doesn't have the fidelity or detail or artistic quality of bfv visuals

[arctic grove]

Yeah I hear ya, I just heard a couple times like genuine complaining cause there wasn’t enough color

Or some other nitpick like comparing the soundtracks like we forgot what 2042 is trying to portray here

[eager spire]

I mean let’s not act like the setting of 2042 really matters.

[chilly jacinth]

i just like shooting people

in a modern setting

[arctic grove]

It depends

If you’re like arc and just wanna shoot people then yeah it doesn’t really matter

It’s not a fundamental problem, I’m just addressing some nitpicks I’ve read and seen before

[eager spire]

I mean it fundamentally does not matter, the climate change, the fact that most major nations have collapsed, the fighting over scarce resources, it does not matter for anything outside of calling card blurbs.

[arctic grove]

well you also have to factor in map themes like I said

[chilly jacinth]

the map lore and theme ties into everything

[arctic grove]

Yeah it’s pretty large

I mean like I said too I’m just addressing some minor nitpicks I’ve seen before

[tame cobalt]

Yeah like BF1 did a great job with its setting and people constantly praise it for that. People do care

[arctic grove]

people want it to be all beautiful and shit in a game that isn’t really meant to portray anything like that

[eager spire]

It doesn’t matter. It has no consequence. Resources are scarce but sure there are multiple tanks and helis flying around.

[arctic grove]

then say it’s shit cause it’s not

[eager spire]

Well people say the maps are shit cause they suck from a gameplay perspective, lore is irrelevant.

[arctic grove]

well we’ve seen spearhead be over funny cubes making guns

You could theoretically assume military resources are still intact

But it gets veeery particular

[tame cobalt]

Sauce

[arctic grove]

nonono

[chilly jacinth]

yes its still a battlefield game

[arctic grove]

If they thought they were bad from a gameplay perspective they wouldn’t be wrong but they would have said that

And I mean yeah

Even if resources are scarce it is an FPS game at the end of the day so

[eager spire]

I mean right now you’re just making up a guy because nobody’s said otherwise as far as I can tell.

[chilly jacinth]

imagine if we had limited amount of vehicles, bullets etc in game

it would be dog

[arctic grove]

I’m not really debating the maps from a gameplay perspective, I’m talking about complaints I’ve read about the game from a visual perspective

I’m sure you can find plenty if you look around online

[mossy badge]

if they talking about graphics they are wrong graphics is nice
if they are talking about atmosphere , game actually get atmospheric when tornado, sandstorm comes in leaving that situation game atmosphere is not good

[arctic grove]

Although they play like shit I do understand why they chose the themes they did for them is what I’m saying

That’s something I’ll miss, the idea of a map on a shipping port to control global trade or an agriculture facility for literal f o o d

Vcar not sure is it so good as people are talking

Probably better if you play with a mouse

[fiery shoal]

i think its decent, idk anyone really talking it up either

[arctic grove]

The reason I say it’s probably better if you play with a mouse is cause once I got fookin

Beamed with it

[chilly jacinth]

its annoying to tap fire

with it

[arctic grove]

Makes sense

It’s sorta satisfying to use cause the low recoil but yeah

@eager spire if you want an in discord reference, although he’s been banned for a few months there was a dude called thatoneguy BFEE who complained about it

[hexed mango]

outside of the super powers (i.e. US and RU), resources are few and far between tech wise
but food wise, as said in the renewal entry, it still something they fight over, and like in spearhead, the fight over tech, but the tech is already controlled by the super powers

its also a game.

[arctic grove]

Pronouns is a little outside of what I was trying to say anyways

2042 doesn’t need visually breathtaking maps considering its world

Although apparently we should throw theme out the window if one thing doesn’t match up even if it can’t be helped

[stoic spear]

does the does basic EA Play include the pass content?

[hexed mango]

pass content?

[stoic spear]

I'll rephrase

[hexed mango]

like the battlepass? no, that comes separately
EA Play just gets you the standard edition

[stoic spear]

The expansions

[hexed mango]

if by expansions you mean battlepass/Year 1 pass, no

[chilly jacinth]

the new content is free

new maps, guns and specialists are free

[hexed mango]

yeah if you mean content, thats all in the free battlepass, or obtained by missions after the season

[stoic spear]

oh, did they end up doing free expansions + premium battlepasses

[arctic grove]

Yes

[stoic spear]

oh dope

[arctic grove]

Precisely

[hexed mango]

there arent any expansions, all the content is in the free battlepass

so you have to progress the bp to get it

[spiral folio]

yea the problem bf1 ran into was most people couldn't play expansion stuff so it divided the base, and they eventually made it open to everyone

[arctic grove]

4 should make its DLCs free again

Would compensate for the FOV

[eager spire]

What?

[stoic spear]

for those comparative purposes I'm calling large content updates "expansions", but I am otherwise picking up what has been put down

[arctic grove]

It’s disappointing to play considering Battlelog recognizes I own all of the DLCs and some despite being locked literally have my attachments on them

[arctic grove]

You claimed I was making up imaginary people

[hexed mango]

gotcha yeah, i just didnt want it to be confused with you immediately getting all the content the instant the update was out, cause everything besides the map needs to be earned in a way

[eager spire]

So you’re writing all of this in response to comments made by a person who has been banned from here for months.

[arctic grove]

Like the only BF4 gun I never unlocked is the GOL

[arctic grove]

Generally addressing a complaint I have seen before. Irregardless if one person made it that’s been banned for months

[stoic spear]

I was mostly just making sure about the new maps, mostly for the reasons Znath mentioned. I like cosmetics, but the map rotations, and new equipment are what I am actually after

[hexed mango]

yeah the map is open to all, they also have specific queues to play the new map and whatever reworked map (in this case manifest) is out
tech, weapons, vehicles, etc, is all scattered throughout the battlepass

but yeah you only pay for cosmetics, everything else is completely free

there are also some cosmetics that are in the free bp, but they usually arent the most breathtaking

[arctic grove]

earlier conversation would probably give you some greater context anyways

[stoic spear]

To clarify, are the guns/equipment in the pass just skins? Or are there full, new-gameplay items in there?

[eager spire]

I am well aware it’s just a game but considering that, the game doesn’t seem to take it’s setting that seriously. Climate change amounts to..tornados and a sandstorm, basically, despite everyone on the field being “independent contractors” working for the superpowers, none of them seem to be even a little bit bothered by continuing to fuel a war effort that caused the climate change and societal collapse that caused them to be no-pats in the first place.

[hexed mango]

the guns/gadgets/vehicles are in the battlepass, but in the free battlepass, i.e. you still have to progress the battlepass to unlock them, but you dont have to pay

[arctic grove]

I mean does it not seem like it’d make sense to go fight for an agricultural facility if it means you keep food coming if your country is struggling in that domain

[eager spire]

It just does not matter. The game’s setting sets up questions and scenarios but then doesn’t follow up on them, instead acting like they don’t exist.

[hexed mango]

if the guns are from a past season, i.e. the BSV-M from S1, you have to complete assignments to obtain them

[stoic spear]

Like full, new-stat'ed guns that are ultimately missable if you don't finish the pass?

[arctic grove]

as the US announcer says themselves actually

[stoic spear]

oh, so they fill in a way to obtain them after?

[hexed mango]

yes

[stoic spear]

🙏

[chilly jacinth]

you can do assignments later to unlock them

if you missed them

[hexed mango]

nw

[stoic spear]

good, I'd hate if you got screwed out of "gameplay" items by missing a pass season.

[hexed mango]

no yeah they dont do that

[chilly jacinth]

yeah that would suck

[hexed mango]

similar to "vault" weapons, which are weapons from portal that are put into the main loadout, you just have to do some missions
same goes for the vehicles and gadgets

[eager spire]

You just miss out on skins. Which doesn’t matter, though it would be nice if there were a way you could get them after the fact in something like the BF1 Exchange.

[stoic spear]

do they include weapons in the premium pass? and if so are those later obtainable through assignments to people who did not have the premium pass?

[arctic grove]

I mean if you bought the Y1 pass before S1

It’s kinda up to you to play and earn those rewards

[hexed mango]

no, all content is in the free pass

[arctic grove]

Although it kinda depends since people get busy and then can’t get content they paid like 30 extra dollars for

[stoic spear]

I'm totally okay to play and earn. I just would find it a pinch P2W if they had locked new, potentially meta-tweaking gear and /or weapons behind a missable paywall (a distinct issue from DLC prices, as they have a right to charge, as long as it's available to anyone)

[stoic spear]

yes, exactly.

[arctic grove]

Well luckily that isn’t present in this game

Usually the guns and vehicles are within the first 30 BP tiers

[fiery shoal]

id argue it doesnt matter for a casual fps game either

[hexed mango]

last item of content this season is Tier 34

[fiery shoal]

yes, i would prefer a game be completely fair and balanced, but thats hardly a concern in a bf title where you can randomly select a heli and triple your kdr

[stoic spear]

It's more a principle thing to me -- I am never going to unlock everything. But knowing I am not even allowed to try is kind of yucky tasting.

[chilly jacinth]

triple sounds too low

[fiery shoal]

the point is the same

[fiery shoal]

honestly i think principles are stupid

[stoic spear]

Great thanks

[fiery shoal]

if someone steals 5 bucks from me so what, but i should be pissed based on "principle"

imo sounds more like an excuse to be unreasonable

[stoic spear]

Stealing is explicitly reasonable?

[fiery shoal]

(not saying thats youre case, this is a generalization)

[hexed mango]

@spiral folio 👋

[fiery shoal]

if this is your conclusion from what i just said idk what to tell you..

you clearly didnt comprehend what i said

[stoic spear]

Anyway, battlefield:

If I had EA Pro and did the day 0/1 claim that had the pass in it, do I still have access to any of that?

[hexed mango]

the what

[stoic spear]

The "preorder" period claim, they had Deluxe on pro, which included the pass IIRC and some goodies

[chilly jacinth]

previous passes are gone

hmm not sure about the other pre order stuff

[hexed mango]

like for the mackay skin? i seriously dunno what the preorder period claim is

[arctic grove]

I think it was gold/ultimate purchases before February

[hexed mango]

yeah thats what rewarded the mackay doom guy skin right

[arctic grove]

Ye

Er wait

Doom guy?

oh you’re saying the skin looks like that

[stoic spear]

which included adding the game to your account with Play Pro ahead of launch

I want to say before I continue, thank you folks for being helpful and answering my questions.

[hexed mango]

now im more confused, i mean if you bought ultimate edition, you could play before launch
but afaik ea play pro, until about recently, was only a trial of the game

[spiral folio]

well that was fun

[hexed mango]

indeed

i hate that map tho

[stoic spear]

I do not think that was the case. I def put some play time in at launch. I put the game and sub on hold until some updates.

[hexed mango]

im also playing on all ultra settings rn to see how it looks

[spiral folio]

soon as some kid whined that "being in back with the rail doesn't stopvehicles!" I started doin real good taking out vehicles :v

[hexed mango]

i think im going blind from breakaway

[spiral folio]

i can't even do sometra let alone ul of em

[hexed mango]

wait so then what are you asking about for rn

@spiral folio are you in exposure rn

[spiral folio]

nah threw me into stranded again..

[hexed mango]

rip

[stoic spear]

Specifically, what, if anything I retain access to, because at the time, it came with what I understand to be the "year 1" content.

And I am curious if the current base EA Play membership does not include that, if anything I had will get re-gated

[spiral folio]

I don't usually score that high but i actually got credit for the vehicle kills that time

[hexed mango]

if you owned the ultimate edition, you get the specialists for free immediately, but the other content will still need to be earned, and cosmetics arent obtainable from past seasons

[stoic spear]

Well I'm wondering if having only played through Pro counts as having "owned" -- but I think I've exhausted everyone's knowledge about that. I'll try poking around more online or reddit. Just trying to figure out before I spend money again.

Thanks o7

[cyan trout]

Anything obtained strictly by having the sub will be gated once the sub expires

[stoic spear]

thanks

[rocky kraken]

when is the predicted next update?

[hexed mango]

sometime mid jan

[edgy oriole]

[stiff pollen]

Is this the fabled class update

The one that takes RPG’s off 3/4th of the classes

[hexed mango]

yes

well it doesnt take RPGs off any classes seeing as there is no RPG in the game

[stiff pollen]

🤨

We really doing semantics here

[hexed mango]

yes

anyways i just destroyed a tank with a frag grenade

[fiery shoal]

ooo class rework is out?

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[hexed mango]

who da fuck said that

we were just talking about the next update and when it might come out

[fiery shoal]

ah gotcha

[hexed mango]

lol

anyone got any AC42 build suggestions

[chilly jacinth]

anything that makes the gun go pewpew

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

Hop on battlefield tonight?

EA need to stop playing and add metro map to 2042

[rapid falcon]

What u guys think about adding behemoths in bf42

[acoustic oar]

The tornado will swallow them whole.

[fiery shoal]

fuck no

let teams lose

[hexed mango]

yeah nah

i think it worked ok in BF1 ops but i dont want them again

[eager spire]

They should've been exclusive to Operations in BF1.

Along with Elite Kits.

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Are are there catchups mechanics in 2042? In BF V conquest the team which is far behind caps conquest flags much faster. I had actually a lot of matches in bfv which ended with 3-0, 1-0, tickets..... pretty close. Thanks to the catchup mechanic a team can close the gap even when they are 150+ tickets behind. I played 2042 a bit at release but can't recall anything remotely close there.

[fiery shoal]

not that i know of

[acoustic oar]

shame

[fiery shoal]

its for the better

[acoustic oar]

Na I think its better if a team can come back and turn the round around.

[chilly jacinth]

Was it just flag cap speed

i could've sworn they did something with the tickets too

[fiery shoal]

even though bf is a casual title, i still dont believe in giving the losing team freebies to potentially get back into the match

[acoustic oar]

Not sure about that but teams sometimes managed to cap 4 out of 5 points. Then the leading teams lost tickets like crazy.

[hexed mango]

well i mean the more objectives captured = more tickets removed from opposing team

[acoustic oar]

Its not even remotely close to a freeby win. It is not impossible to make a comeback. Still not easy to do with most teams. There is just a higher chance than in other bf titles. In bf1 for example the team with the behemoth most likely will loose the round.

[fiery shoal]

getting a behemoth or faster capping because youre losing is a freebie

i didnt say freebie win

[acoustic oar]

oh I thought you were talking about a win. Still I think catch up mechanic would be great. It would add more closer matches into the mix and there would be less one sided rounds.

[fiery shoal]

idk if having artificial close matches is really anything to strive for

granted casuals that want to feel good about themselves probably like it

[hexed mango]

especially since this game already favors attackers with vehicles

[arctic grove]

Should be a free win tbh

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We are talking about conquest here.

[hexed mango]

i thought someone mentioned it being in ops

maybe im going crazy idk

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Its a conquest mechanic in bfv.

[hexed mango]

the behemoths?

[acoustic oar]

No the catch up mechanic which lets you cap conquest flags faster if your team is loosing hard in bfv.

[hexed mango]

oh well nyphon mentioned the behemoths, which is what i was referencing

[acoustic oar]

Behemoth are also a catch up mechanic but its insufficient imo. The team with the behemoth is loosing most of the rounds despite the behemoth.

[hexed mango]

behemoths were stupid outside of grand ops, and even then i dont want stuff like that anymore

[kindred flint]

underbarrel launcher (because youre a man) warhawk and standard extended

[hexed mango]

yes

[acoustic oar]

Agreed. I rather have a bfv mechanic which creates closer matches and lets a team get back into the round after a bad start.

[arctic grove]

skill issue if you have to rely on an underbarrel

[kindred flint]

lol that bfv catchup mechanic was ....interesting

[kindred flint]

no skill issue, just hilarious to fuck over dozers who think they are cute, or flame people out of a blind corner

[hexed mango]

flame launcher or 40mm

[kindred flint]

holy shit...what is this 2 weeks in a row exodus is in rotation???

both...always both

then smoke in third slot

[hexed mango]

yep. and two weeks in a row with no escalation bt

[kindred flint]

then dont spawn in a vehicle

[eager spire]

BF1 really tried hard to make "artificially close" matches, with behemoths, elite kits, and even changing how the modes of Conquest and Domination work so the team with the score advantage keeps scoring even when they don't have flag majority. That's really bad, and stupid.

[spiral folio]

You could score even without the most flags before in other ones

Ie if the enemy has 2:1 flags theyd score 2 for each kill to your 1. But if you killed 3x as fast, you could win

1942 and bf2 were that way

So that isnt new

[eager spire]

I mean, you don't even need the majority of flags to score points, if your team has 3 flags and the enemy has 2, the enemy team will still gain points, despite having the score advantage. This makes comebacks unlikely, and just serves to make games seem closer than they really are.

If that's how 1942 and BF2 did it, then it was probably changed at some point before or even on BF3, in which case, it was a good change that should not have been reverted.

[spiral folio]

Depends on the sectors and situation ie something like the last sector of fao fortress where you can hole up good and take on tons of attackers

[kindred flint]

god these fucking bipods...why does dice constantly fuck them up

[eager spire]

honestly, fuck bipods.

[median tusk]

they are good for sniping

i would say the same for lmg's but you know people just run and gun with those things

[hexed mango]

bro the spawn points on the last sector of kale bt are fucking dogwater

[spiral folio]

If you can crouch and bipod its more ideal otherwise its hard to move away if you come under fire with proned bipod

[median tusk]

at that point just accept your fate

[spiral folio]

Unless you can keyhole it or something

[median tusk]

true

[cyan trout]

Would be a cool gadget

[spiral folio]

The lcmg is really good bipodded but it's risky

So is the xm8 really

[kindred flint]

the fact it fucking unselects itself every time you weapon swap is moronic

[spiral folio]

Yea

[arctic grove]

Kale BT last sector makes my head hurt

[hexed mango]

yeah even tho it was the first rework, it leaves a fuck ton to be desired

i would send an image, but the fact that the team spawns for defense go south instead of east like the rest of the map fucks it all up, cause we're at a direct line of sight from the attackers when we spawn, and we are easily gunned down

[kindred flint]

skill issue? dont spawn

[arctic grove]

It’s also that last building too

[hexed mango]

fr

cant wait till tuesday

[kindred flint]

why to experienced more unbalanced shit?

[arctic grove]

What’s Tuesday?

[still vault]

Please chill, read rule 10, you don't have to agree with people that like the game but no reason to create a toxic atmosphere

[kindred flint]

am absolutely livid with zain rn

[still vault]

I see Zain so little I actually forgot he existed 😄

[arctic grove]

😳

[kindred flint]

this poor guy gunna tab back over to discord in a minute and see chat

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[fleet ocean]

is weekly reset on tuesday

[kindred flint]

yeah, early morning

[fleet ocean]

dang

[kindred flint]

the timer on the event tab on the main screen right now will show it too

[mossy charm]

What should I run, the ACWR (just unlocked) or the M5A3?

[median tusk]

I feel the m5 to be more consistent

[mossy charm]

oh

[kindred flint]

acr probably one of the worst due to the low mag size

[median tusk]

||kind of biased ain't it||

[hexed mango]

i dont think he was trying to harass me lol we were talking about BT 128p being chaotic (chaotically fun)

[hexed mango]

its a decent gun but yeah that does kill it

[kindred flint]

who thought 27 was a good number

[hexed mango]

me, it was all me

[median tusk]

i will hunt you down

[kindred flint]

...wait isnt that the number all the pop stars die at? 💀

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/zy2zj1/my_brother_in_christ_keep_me_away_from_these/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb @hexed mango

[hexed mango]

not this guy again

ok @arctic grove check the comments

[kindred flint]

im not even mad that happened...glad even

[hexed mango]

[median tusk]

simply a skill issue my dear

[hexed mango]

exactly

[kindred flint]

maybe this is what happenes when you crouch spam too much

[hexed mango]

bro i hate that the design of the new mackay skin completely changes if you have ultra settings

[slender isle]

Acwr also has a super low fire rate compared to it in bf3 or bf4

Like 80 rpm too low

[hexed mango]

fr

[arctic grove]

Definitely

[arctic grove]

changes for the better or worse?

[hexed mango]

better.

[arctic grove]

He do be looking like a hollywood star

[drowsy shuttle]

Ok now i get it why people dont like hourglass... in conquest is absolutely horrendus and a snoozefest

[arctic grove]

Desert field

[drowsy shuttle]

In breakthrough is alright, but conquest... holy shit

[arctic grove]

Al Alamein 2.0

[arctic grove]

and rush?

[wary portal]

hey last night i was able to play breakthrough.

[drowsy shuttle]

I dont play rush

[arctic grove]

why?

[drowsy shuttle]

I dunno i feel is too fast..

Matches end too quickly

[arctic grove]

that depends on whose is who

if people suck at defending or arming mcoms

[drowsy shuttle]

True.. but usually is one team crushing the other

[arctic grove]

then you're just bad luck

[median tusk]

i played rush a while ago and it lasted 23 minutes which is about the same as the average conquest match

[arctic grove]

average

lol

[drowsy shuttle]

Probably

[arctic grove]

again, it depends who you're fighting against and who you're ally with

[median tusk]

yeah

[arctic grove]

but you know what grinds my gears with people hosting rush? outrageous ticket count

[drowsy shuttle]

I agree.. but feels its too often unbalanced... you need to play like 10 times to get into a good fair match... i play solo and with randoms

[arctic grove]

and long ass game time

meh

I don't always try in pvp anyway

but In PvE, I'm the opposite

[hexed mango]

orbital during storm >>>

[arctic grove]

Turns a 10/10 map into a 100/10 map

[arctic grove]

Then the tornado causes the shuttle to blow up making the map 1000/10

[slender isle]

Did you guys know the ACWR has 160 rpm less than it did in bf4? And 100rpm less than it did in bf3?

[hexed mango]

15 levels away from S200

[eager spire]

not surprising

[eternal narwhal]

acwr was a beast back in bf3/4, was my main weapon

[slender isle]

It was a beast, and they butchered it lmao

[eternal narwhal]

this game is kinda a W now tbh im enjoying it so much lately. i got it when it launched on xbox one s and as u would expect it was ass but on the series x i love it

[eternal narwhal]

normal Dice behaviour

also can someone like briefly explain the whole levels thing? like im level 40 or something and then ill see someone S200? wtf is S200?

[torpid lotus]

After you hit 100 it switches to S

[eternal narwhal]

ah okay thank u

[hexed mango]

S001 = level 100

and then on from there

[eternal narwhal]

what weapons has everyone been running? ive just been using the M5A3