battlefield-2042

[south urchin]

That’s why I think 2042 changes must be a nightmare for dice

Since not even the community can agree on what work and doesn’t

[ancient junco]

2042 is completely broken and divided

Best thing is just play portal

[eager spire]

To be fair, a significant subset of the community will see a decent player and be mad about that

So they're not very smart

[magic bloom]

Don’t make me get out the most meta load out which is the smoke loadout

[south urchin]

HACKER!

[ancient junco]

I just see people complaining about choppers all day lmao

[magic bloom]

People are quick to throw out hacker but never look at their own skill

[arctic grove]

the gateway to experience classic BF in the slightest bit

[ebon pilot]

Ask everyone what the most battlefield like battlefield game is and you'll have a popularity ranking of every game in the series

[magic bloom]

Only chopper I don’t like is the stealth heli because half the time I have brain dead gunners who won’t shoot at it when I’m driving the MAV

[ancient junco]

I've been called an hacker for taking out helicopters with a tank lol

[south urchin]

These people Fr don’t play lis

[south urchin]

The railgun tank is hilarious for that type of stuff

Almost no leading

[tough folio]

you prob sit in spawn with the tor lmao

[south urchin]

poof

[ancient junco]

Nah on bf4

[magic bloom]

You literally just (cause it sounds like it’s sneezing) sneeze and they die

[ancient junco]

Took out a guy 3 times in a row dude came to bitch about it in pm

[magic bloom]

Well yeah what do you expect that’s literally what it’s supposed to do

[south urchin]

Taking out jets is funnier

[ancient junco]

Hitscan be like

[south urchin]

You just know the guy in the jet is malding

[wise heath]

Question

[kindred flint]

what am i missing here...you didnt die? but you were able to get a questionable roadkill on someone when your helicopter should have been unable to move due to losing so much speed

[ebon pilot]

Answer

[magic bloom]

Simply fly a foot above the ground and the tank won’t hit you lol

[wise heath]

What’s the point of the second mode the railgun tank?

[ebon pilot]

More damage

[wise heath]

What does it do other than make you not move?

Oh really?

[ebon pilot]

Faster charge

[snow sandal]

I have a clip of me on BF4 getting killed by a tanks main gun while in a Heli.

But the heli wasn't destroyed, it just perfectly went through the window killing only me somehow lol

[ancient junco]

More dmg and stability

[south urchin]

Nah fam the old 45 degree hill trick is impervious to such lame tactics

[magic bloom]

It’s has a bit more damage and faster RPM

[wise heath]

Ah okay thanks

[eager spire]

yeah, literally on mass calling for stream sniping a decent heli pilot for daring to play the video game.

[errant scarab]

Railgun is so annoying

[eager spire]

Actually cringe, if i were moderating the subreddit all those people would be fucking banned.

[ancient junco]

That happens a lot plus you also have shooting the hell and doing zero dmg bruh

[snow sandal]

Yeah was prominent near the start because of bad netcode

[south urchin]

That’s Reddit in general

[magic bloom]

Can’t we just ban all of Reddit

[eager spire]

statement still stands.

[magic bloom]

And Twitter

[south urchin]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a subreddit for a video game not be filled with the dumbest of the dumb members of the community

[wise heath]

But they’ll flood here

[ancient junco]

People always bitched about air vehicles in bf because they couldn't bother to learn how to counter it

[magic bloom]

Good we will clown on them for their literal skill issue

[wise heath]

Banning popular websites just makes all the users go somewhere else

[ancient junco]

Yup

[wise heath]

Twitter was somewhat okay with just being where youtubers would be until Tumblr banned porn

[magic bloom]

If your getting that mad over helicopters stop playing mackay for 10 minutes play rao grab a stinger and deal with it

[wise heath]

Then all the degens came flocking to Twitter

[ancient junco]

Nah rao sucks to take down hellis use lis

[ebon pilot]

Rao one of the best characters and yet I don't see people using him

[ancient junco]

Way better

[magic bloom]

Yes but I suck with her and I’m decent with rao

[ancient junco]

A good pilot will pop flares while you are starting the hack and you won't do sht

[eager spire]

people on the BF subreddit get mad over literally any half decent person that posts clips there.

[ebon pilot]

Lis rockets can get shot down

[eager spire]

Genuinely. They act like you're not allowed to be good at the game.

[magic bloom]

Can’t flair my recoilless

[kindred flint]

run off to another section of map to farm more, or fly around an obstacle and pop back out shooting in 10 seconds

[ancient junco]

Yeah but you are in a chopper you have more thing to worry about then shooting down a atmg

[magic bloom]

They’d probably have a stroke if they saw one of the good players in this server actually play the game

[kindred flint]

the lack of "need to resupply off map" for air units is super unfun for infantry

[ancient junco]

They've had a stroke if they saw bf4 pilots with the little bird I love thay thing going thru the smaller gap possible lmao

[magic bloom]

The blades had no mass

[eager spire]

most of the decent pilots in 2042 used to be BF4 pilots.

[magic bloom]

Those fucking cracked out viper pilots from Shanghai still haunt me

[ancient junco]

I'm a good pilot in bf4 but can't be bothered with bf2042 eh

[ancient junco]

Oh yeah love the map just getting in and out of the chopper to get unspoted and send a TV to the enemy chopper

Then just tear down the infantry on C

[kindred flint]

flat screen or plasma?

[magic bloom]

I’ve been trying to get good at the MAV but it’s hard when I keep getting farmed by stealth helis and my gunners won’t even bother to shoot him

When he’s so close you could literally smell the exhaust from the stealth chopper

[ancient junco]

Oh yeah I've taken out so many choppers like that I don't know why but people love to fly 1cm above the ground in bf2042 with a bunch of infantry belllow

[snow sandal]

The ones who never missed a tow missle from across the map

Like I got fairly good with tow missles in the chopper but some people were gods

[magic bloom]

I mean I never got mad at helicopter pilots in bf4 cause of the skill curve

[ancient junco]

Having 4k hours in chopper helps

[magic bloom]

But the stealth heli literally takes no skill

[ebon pilot]

Because it lets you avoid locks easier

[ancient junco]

I know

But that's way to risky I don't do that on bf4 you gonna get popped by an rpg

[magic bloom]

They also should buff the Apache in 2042

[ancient junco]

I fly low a lot but never to close to infantry

[magic bloom]

I fly low enough to where if I need to duck to cover I can

[ancient junco]

Like hover above infantry

[eager spire]

i mean it's not the heli pilot's fault that the vehicle balance in this game is ass.

That's DICE's fault.

[magic bloom]

Yes it is /j

[ancient junco]

True

Who decided that giving bombs to helli was a good idea

[magic bloom]

Or flairs and stealth

[ancient junco]

Took the words of my mouth

[formal igloo]

To add on to the gameplay issues, I also hate specialists because of their looks. I don’t like identical models on different sides a battlefield game.

[magic bloom]

And the secondary gunner needs to not be able to shoot while in stealth

[eager spire]

someone at DICE. I hope they've reconsidered their actions, or don't work at DICE anymore.

I'll take either outcome.

[sharp marten]

Stay mad heli bombs are a good addition

[magic bloom]

Get out

[ebon pilot]

i don't really notice because if i'm close enough to notice i'm more focused on the fact that i need to shoot them not or i'll die

[sharp marten]

[wise heath]

Same guy that made the aek op asf

[eager spire]

you guys hear the wind

The AEK is OP
no it's not

[magic bloom]

I hear a clown horn

[sharp marten]

I’m sorry I’m just in it for the tomfoolery

[eager spire]

also, the people that worked on BF4 are not the same people that worked on 2042.

[sharp marten]

But na y’all are right

[ancient junco]

You can hear the bombs being drops that's the sign you need to get tf out of there

[magic bloom]

Or if your Irish just drop an APS and troll them

[formal igloo]

And how they have to be all quirky, unique people with different outfits. I may not want it to play realistically, but I want it to look realistically

[ancient junco]

They APS can block anything bruh

[ebon pilot]

most of the quirkiness was removed

[formal igloo]

Like is it too much to ask for them to have helmets by default?

[magic bloom]

I feel like Irish and Zain probably had the most realistic kit

[ancient junco]

Literally bfv where you had women with prosthetic arms on ww2

[formal igloo]

Like just port Irish’s uniform to everyone

[eager spire]

sidenote: those character models were never actually released.

[wise heath]

Shut up purple name

[eager spire]

People were complaining about something that never actually ended up being in the game.

[ancient junco]

My two fav characters

[eager spire]

Good job.

[wise heath]

All of your opinions have been shit

[magic bloom]

Everyone’s opinion is ass bro

[wise heath]

average wolf pfp

[magic bloom]

Except your own

[eager spire]

that's your opinion and i respect it

[arctic grove]

Irish and Zain do have nice default skins yes

[eager spire]

It's blatantly false, though.

[formal igloo]

Visual quirkiness too.

[magic bloom]

Or the mackay JTF vet skin that’s also nice

[formal igloo]

I just want them all to have helmets

[hallow sierra]

my opinion isnt valid

[ancient junco]

Plus most of the time you can't see if they are friendly or foe in cqc with all the smoke and sht going on

[tough folio]

the only thing the bf community ever does: complain

[eager spire]

give my boy Mackay some fucking earpro i swear to god

[arctic grove]

Help saying everyone’s wrong just to not clarify

Absolute gigachad

[ebon pilot]

wym my characters serious af

[arctic grove]

This is the second biggest thing that bugs me about the skins besides no FUCKING helmets

[kindred flint]

lmao im in my first round of the special mode

this is fucking legit trash

[eager spire]

to be fair, there is a lot to complain about. It would not be as bad if there weren't so many problems to complain about.

[magic bloom]

Unless they wear in ear ear pro

[kindred flint]

enemy has all caps on spearhead...we cant even get more than 2

fucking shit ass team

[formal igloo]

Yeah, that’s good, but I’m poor and don’t but skins

[ebon pilot]

what side are you on

[eager spire]

is that a thing

[ancient junco]

Yeah I would love to know why in fk 20 from now people decided that helmets are no good

[kindred flint]

the losing side

east

i left the match too fucking depressing

[arctic grove]

Some of them wear earpro with no helmets and it makes me want to cry

[kindred flint]

fucking morons cant hold both C caps when we had them

[arctic grove]

I want my tacticool oper8rs man

[kindred flint]

my squad was at A trying to back cap...just get killed over and over by a vcar scripter

[ancient junco]

Lol

[formal igloo]

Yes

[kindred flint]

and why do both teams start with the same tickets????

i thought the team that has ALL THE CAPS would have less

[ancient junco]

Btw why does the crossbow do 60 dmg only tf

[kindred flint]

wasnt that a mode in previous BFs?

[eager spire]

What is it with event gamemodes and being terrible

[ancient junco]

Yeah

[hallow sierra]

i only played cqa once just to get the raider sundance but tho it was a suit not a headgear

[formal igloo]

I’m only playing for the cosmetics.

[wise heath]

since bf3 at least

maybe before that

[eager spire]

like, Tactical Conquest was bad, and now Conquest Assault is bad. They should really just stop making Conquest variants.

[kindred flint]

so why the fuck do i load into a spearhead match as the "attackers" and get the same amount of tickets as the team with all the caps...

how incompetent is dice 1-10?

[eager spire]

Persistence Error

[formal igloo]

Also how much does that helmet cost and is it universal?

[ancient junco]

Give us an tank on tank gamemode like bf3

[kindred flint]

also loved the douchebag on our cube with a railgun just snipe snipe sniping away while im trying to run around vs 3 enemies at the D point

[ebon pilot]

angel exclusive and i forget where i got it

[formal igloo]

I liked tactical conquest

[hallow sierra]

i dont even want to get the mp9 skin cuz i like the mp9 t1 skin better

[eager spire]

Tactical Conquest just seemed stupid to me when Domination is already in the game

and would've worked much better for the kind of gameplay they were going for

[ebon pilot]

idk why you guys hate tactical conquest so much i love it

but i've also been winning every game so far

[kindred flint]

also its just "ribbons"? not specific ones like last time?

[eager spire]

because Tactical Conquest is basically Domination with base flags and that's stupid

[hallow sierra]

they should just make a bc missions in this event

[eager spire]

because the thing with Domination is spawns should be determined by the flags your team has

[formal igloo]

Bruh

[eager spire]

if your team has no flags you randomly spawn somewhere.

Having base flags makes it incredibly easy to spawncamp and gives no reason to not triplecap

Domination, if you triplecap, sure, you'll get more points, but then you'll have to deal with not really knowing where the enemies are gonna spawn.

[formal igloo]

I liked Hazard Zone’s start, where you get dropped off with your squad on a Littlebird

[hallow sierra]

im surprised HZ didnt get any updates

[kindred flint]

dead mode?

[eager spire]

I'm not surprised.

It was a gimmick mode that very few people actually cared about post launch

It ended up like Firestorm, people were interested, and then very quickly weren't.

[wise heath]

I don’t like the fact I have to grind all my attachments and weapons again

[fiery shoal]

FS was actually played quite a lot, the problem was dice took fucking forever to fix its horrible looting system and once they did that did nothing else with it

[ebon pilot]

wym no you don't?

[wise heath]

And it heavily depends on your squad

[fiery shoal]

i would constantly get full lobbies in FS at any time quickly

[wise heath]

I swear you did

I tried it and it said something about having to unlock shit again

[ebon pilot]

you had to gain credits so you could buy the weapons you wanted

[wise heath]

Let me try it rn

[ebon pilot]

but you started with a base M5A3 by default since it cost nothing

[wise heath]

So I have to get credits to get a gun I like?

[hallow sierra]

wait u can pay weapons now?

[ebon pilot]

right, and you get credits by playing the mode

[eager spire]

well yeah cause it was trying to be a more survival oriented thing, despite the fact that Battlefield as it's designed doesn't really work well for gameplay like that, and trying to make the game so it played better like that would make it not appealing to BF players.

[wise heath]

Which means playing the fucjing mode that heavily requires your squad

[silk jasper]

STOP GIVING ME MANIFEST AS RU FORCE AND SPEARHEAD AS US FORCE ON BREAKTHROUGH

[magic bloom]

Yes ear plugs

[eager spire]

It's giving you them because people are leaving so there are always slots open

:D

[wise heath]

STOP GIVING ME DEFENDING ON EVERY SINGLE MODE FFS

[arctic grove]

no i don’t want to

[silk jasper]

Nah breh its literally all ive been getting all day

[arctic grove]

I’m the game now

[eager spire]

people have probably been leaving those lobbies all day.

[wise heath]

Wtf rush xl is gone

[ebon pilot]

yeah the modes rotate out each week

[wise heath]

Oh

Wtf

[eager spire]

end unnecessary 128 player versions of smaller gamemodes

[wise heath]

Why conquest assault out of any other mode

[hallow sierra]

its crazy how the new portal weapons are good

[eager spire]

because DICE are not in the business of making good decisions

[magic bloom]

P90 shreds

[hallow sierra]

i already t1 xm8 now to the m416

but no skin for it

[magic bloom]

I forgot how drippy the base commander skin for angel is

[fiery shoal]

its fun, but other smgs are more effective

[hallow sierra]

when theyre going to add skins to portal weapons again

[magic bloom]

I don’t Know if they are

[eager spire]

they're probably not going to

[magic bloom]

A T1 skin for the P90 would be so epic

[silk jasper]

No ETA they did promise it once but its looking unlikely

[hallow sierra]

well

[magic bloom]

You guys remember how awful the pre nerf 50mm cannon was

[kindred flint]

awful for everyone on the map minus 50mm user?

[arctic grove]

It was pretty annoying

I think it still 1 shots with a direct hit

[kindred flint]

another dumb "how did this pass QA" moment

[slender isle]

30mm was more annoying

[hallow sierra]

may as well copy the 2042 t1 skins if they're not planning to make t1 portal weapons different

[slender isle]

Death through buildings

[arctic grove]

30mm with the slowdown bug

Used to piss me off

[eager spire]

i don't think it's that simple

[arctic grove]

Deco said they are totally different and you can’t just port em over to the vault guns

I forgot how he specifically explained it

But it sounded like it made sense to me so yeh

[hallow sierra]

well my loss

[atomic egret]

They give you a week.. .5hrs later you're done...

Weee...

[kindred flint]

i mean...thats not bad since its LTM mode thats not balanced

i dont want to have to grind out some shitfest for 3 weeks because devs cant balance

[atomic egret]

LoL

[slender isle]

Everyone complained it was too hard for the average person to get last time

[hallow sierra]

they shouldve give us ingame currency event missions

[arctic grove]

damn 5 hrs

[slender isle]

1 hour a day

[arctic grove]

Never mind I dunno why that sounded like a lot of time at first

[slender isle]

You basically play for an hour a day then take a break, then come back

[kindred flint]

i didnt even bother with the 100 ribbon last time lol

[atomic egret]

They can't even fix the fuckin Season badges. I'm pissed I didn't know sooner to go into a Portal match during Season 1.. RiP T1 badge for that Season..

[kindred flint]

i dont care about tanks..why do i want a skin for it

[slender isle]

Contact support they should help

[hexed mango]

they cant

[hallow sierra]

ha

[hexed mango]

and dice knows it an issue, they have since S1

[atomic egret]

Yup.

[kindred flint]

another thing i didnt even care about in s1 lol

"oh this is bugged...oh well" didnt bother going for it

[atomic egret]

I was done with both Seasons soo early, even this one I'm 70 something already..

[kindred flint]

Im low 60s, havent done missions yet as I only played like a dozen minutes earlier before leaving game

[hallow sierra]

im not even close cuz i get a late start to the season

[hexed mango]

i still got the t1 badge kinda easily

[kindred flint]

yesterday i played one match

[slender isle]

As have 14 weeks this season too

So 2 extra weeks to get T1

[atomic egret]

Nordvik Event literally takes a half hour...

[hallow sierra]

and there was 12 week missions before

[kindred flint]

being non specific ribbons helps

[slender isle]

Probably would’ve been better having it as objective and supply ribbons or whatever it is for health and ammo

[atomic egret]

60 revives w/support gonna take longer than the Nordvik Event...

[hexed mango]

oh shit i totally forgot about missions lmao

[kindred flint]

is that the weekly?

[rich violet]

why there is a dark mode for the flash of the flashbang?

[hexed mango]

yes.

read that wrong, cause why not?

i'd rather have a black screen than get my pupils blown out by a light screen

[kindred flint]

you dont want that to be your own source of tanning like sweat streamers?

[hexed mango]

yeah that too, i actually see the sun sooo

[ancient peak]

Took 3 games to get 20 ribbons. Could probably do it in two if I messed around with intelligence ribbons more

[kindred flint]

lmao you dont stream for under 500 people? loser

[hexed mango]

Casper and Rao be like

i just throw pokeballs everywhere and heal

[hallow sierra]

for ppl that play in the dark and dont want to be reminded about the sun

[ancient peak]

Got too wrapped up in finishing Falck’s T1

[hexed mango]

falck was my first T1... 12 months ago

[hallow sierra]

i gotta get sundance t1 before this year ends

[hexed mango]

shoulda done it last year

was easier

[hallow sierra]

im so close i just need to not get alot of hitmarks

[ancient peak]

When the season 1 map released

[hexed mango]

lol

i remember that

the sundance spam

[hallow sierra]

i still regret waiting after the nerf to get her t1

[hexed mango]

i wish we still had sundance EMP

[ancient peak]

people could’ve countered it with Irish but nooooooo

[hexed mango]

they did but c5 --> irish = no irish

[mystic loom]

Problems with this game back again. I just start a game and it goes 5fps then crashes. Not fixing for that yet?

[hallow sierra]

tbh emp nades would be esay for her

[mystic loom]

is not my specs, I played very well on S1

[ancient peak]

That’s why you let your teammates tank for you and waited around the corner

Check the files maybe I dunno.

[mystic loom]

I did it and it fixed for couple hours, then the problem came again

[hallow sierra]

i just hate throwing scatters either i receive a lot of hitmarkers and no kill, or irish aps being there

[ancient peak]

I think your best bet is to do it during rush 128

In two weeks

[hallow sierra]

and the anti armor does no damage to vehicles

[hallow sierra]

cant last gen gamer

[ancient peak]

Ripperino

[hallow sierra]

well im almost there idk if i want to t1 zain

[drowsy shuttle]

What you guys think about the event? For me feels a bit underwhelming... skins are okay i guess.. nothing extraordinary... im just looking forward for the return of 128p breakthrough

[hallow sierra]

after sundance

[hallow sierra]

i rather bc missions i want the sfar skin

[ancient peak]

Event is fine for what it is. Not a big fan of the game mode is all. Getting the ribbons was easy enough to really make it not much of a headache

[arctic grove]

It’s a good event if you have spare dolans

[drowsy shuttle]

True.. got them all in like 45 min of playing

[arctic grove]

Free skins aren’t too shabby

[kindred flint]

better than last time

[arctic grove]

Of course I would like if there were more but that’s not profitable so it’s not a big deal of course

Yea y better

100 ribbons

[kindred flint]

oh my bad...defenders start with 700 tickets, attackers have 880 thats so much better... /s

[hallow sierra]

wait what thats how it works

i tho they have the same amount of tickets

[ancient peak]

The attackers start with more tickets since the defenders have all objectives. Their tickets drain until they stabilize objectives

[kindred flint]

but its a laughable difference

[hallow sierra]

oh tho it was just conquest but the map is shorten

im not much of a conquest main

[atomic egret]

Nordvik

[ocean ferry]

Hey DICE.
You're not supposed to throw anti-tank mines.

Are you insane that C5 and anti-tank mines have the same maximum flying distance?

[ebon pilot]

weekly underbarrel shotgun appreciation post

[hallow sierra]

i almost get 800 BC but i dont now what to pay

[mystic loom]

this game have problems with windows 11?

[drowsy shuttle]

I have the feeling defenders win 90% of the time... i did like 4 or 5 games as defenders.. won them all..

[hallow sierra]

or maybe i should save it till i get 1,000 to get a season pass

[arctic grove]

Does the xp boost only last for an hour of when you get it or if you go off does it save?

[ebon pilot]

only when you're in a match

[arctic grove]

So if I leave a match will it expire?

[ancient peak]

The masterkey is so much fun

[ebon pilot]

no, it pauses

[formal igloo]

Why do spawn beacons go away when i spawn on them?

[arctic grove]

Thanks

[kindred flint]

lmao...totally feels like people are scroll wheeling this vcar

[hexed mango]

i have yet to be close to winning as a defender on cqa

[tough folio]

its so you commit to your placement

[wide shore]

Because CQA is unbalanced af

[drowsy shuttle]

You never won as defenders?

[magic bloom]

I haven’t seen you in like 2 days frosty

[wide shore]

I’ve been on

But I’ve been no lifing Grounded.

[hexed mango]

i mean ive played 2 rounds, both defense, lost by 350+ tickets each time
(i was top of team-board both rounds...)

[wise heath]

Shitty team then

[hexed mango]

probably

im on attack now

[drowsy shuttle]

Weird.. i did 4 or 5 games as defenders and won them all.. only one of them was kinda close... did one game as attackers and we lost hard..

[hexed mango]

(we're losing lmao)

[kindred flint]

lmao attacking side i lost...fuck off teammates

i get 92 score next moron gets 44

[wise heath]

It really depends on your team

[kindred flint]

literally fucking worthless teammates

[wise heath]

If they all go to one objective instead of splitting up

You lost

[kindred flint]

28-6 with 6 caps sorry i cant be everywhere

[wise heath]

I swear the iq of your teammates get lower each game

[kindred flint]

like you cant even press spot on enemies to get easy assists/help teammates?

[wise heath]

Even the bots are more helpful

[kindred flint]

oh the 60 revives is till end of season thats ez

[wise heath]

What do you have to do 60 revives for?

[arctic grove]

community service

[hexed mango]

weekly mission

[formal igloo]

I thought the event was going to be at night?

[hexed mango]

almost as if the trailers lied to us

we're getting used to it

[formal igloo]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

i warned of this. i said in no way is the game gonna look like the trailer (for the event)... i was right.

[formal igloo]

Two more weeks, hopefully it’ll change

[hexed mango]

it probably wont.

[formal igloo]

Yeah

[magic bloom]

Only time it would be close is for 128 bt

[hexed mango]

@drowsy shuttle i might just be getting bad teams. we lost again, this time as attack. 183 tickets

[hexed mango]

how does that change the time of day lmao

[magic bloom]

It just might

[hexed mango]

it wont

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeh probably..

[magic bloom]

[coral oasis]

When will there be functionality for platoons and when will frontlines be returning as a game mode?

[arctic grove]

Damn, no darker sky box?

[hexed mango]

1 ribbon away from finishing the week tho

[hexed mango]

as i said when the trailer came out, the game looks nothing like the trailer.

[arctic grove]

I see what ya mean for sure

[hexed mango]

whether that's visual quality, lighting, it being night or not, the storms... its kinda sad.

trailer team knows whats up, they know what we want

ai soldiers, good looking maps, destruction, perfection.

[arctic grove]

Did you just say AI soldiers?

[magic bloom]

I wish we had darker maps besides manifest

[arctic grove]

Now you’re talking my language

[hexed mango]

yep

[arctic grove]

I hear you man

Now we gotta wait some years till the next shot

[magic bloom]

It would make the new skins so nice

[arctic grove]

Agreed and like I always say that’s why I wish the maps had dynamic weather

So for instance, imagine orbital but it rains the entire match

That would be fookin amazing

[hexed mango]

ok finished week 1 of the event

[magic bloom]

Orbital with constant rain would be so hot

[hexed mango]

time to play bt for the missions

[eager spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng3DGU68SI0

surprise surprise, throwing knives work weirdly for no good reason

[hexed mango]

i didnt even try to do S2 event. got so bored of it

this one was bearable, and super fucking easy

[formal igloo]

Like hourglass with the sandstorm is fire

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[hexed mango]

fr.

[arctic grove]

Hourglass with sandstorm, orbital/kaleidoscope with storm, etc

[hexed mango]

Manifest lightning is 10/10

[magic bloom]

It rlly is

Imagine like major lightning storms on manifest

[hexed mango]

have you seen the lightning storm?

[formal igloo]

Don’t know why they just don’t keep it in for much longer

[magic bloom]

Not really

I don’t Play on Manifest anymore

[drowsy shuttle]

Why?

For me is still the best map

[magic bloom]

I don’t like getting railed in the ass by some ship camper

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[hexed mango]

Manifest is great

tbh exposure is my fav tho
manifest and orbital are best base maps by far tho.

[magic bloom]

I also miss the little building near E sector

[magic bloom]

[hexed mango]

and i dont really have much negative to say about the season maps, besides the fact that they added vehicles to stranded bt and it sucks now

[magic bloom]

Stranded breakthrough was perfect

[hexed mango]

Pterodactyl is best casper skin

why did i just say pterodactyl

i need to nap

[magic bloom]

Praetorian?

[hexed mango]

• pretorian

yes.

[magic bloom]

It’s pretty good

[hexed mango]

it was my favorite s1 bp skin

[magic bloom]

I like his ultimate edition or T1 skin the most

[hexed mango]

yeah his T1 is cool but tbh its not that special

Ult one i used for a long ass time

but i like his S3 and S1 ones a lot

[magic bloom]

Or the empire of Sand one since it blends in great with hour glass

[hexed mango]

and "World Ender" is great as well

[drowsy shuttle]

Fell like for the event skins they just removed the red from tier 1 skins

[arctic grove]

T1 skin somehow managed to be mid compared to some of Casper’s others skins

[hexed mango]

casper's is completely different its just not that cool

[arctic grove]

Which is impressive

[hexed mango]

ikr

[magic bloom]

That was what I meant by empire of sand

[arctic grove]

Casper and Dozer casually receiving the best skins be like

[magic bloom]

On fucking god

[hexed mango]

like tbh even tho its white, cirrus is a cool ass skin, wish it was green or some other color tho

cool tactical skin*

[magic bloom]

I also like his from this battle pass

[hexed mango]

ye

rao need another legendary

[magic bloom]

Like Casper has never had a bad skin

Rao skins could be so epic

[hexed mango]

i want to buy his current one but i dont think its 100% worth it

[magic bloom]

Red specter is probably my favorite for rao

[arctic grove]

All I want for rao is his game cover combat uniform

[magic bloom]

I have the helmet

[hexed mango]

mackay gets so many skins

[arctic grove]

Same, we just need that and we are good

[hexed mango]

yet Rao is the literal poster boy

[magic bloom]

Fr

[hexed mango]

im really hoping next week has a Zain skin tho

[magic bloom]

Casper angel and rao are my favorite specialists

[drowsy shuttle]

Ii disagree... factory skins suck.. looks like he has a carnaval wig... for me only the pilot skin is cool... but kinda doesnt fit the character...

[magic bloom]

I mean a skin doesn’t have to fit them

[slender isle]

The skin does fit him. He’s an ex-pilot

[magic bloom]

No he isn’t

It never said anything in his bio about him being a pilot

[slender isle]

There is 100% something there about it

[magic bloom]

Please prove me wrong I would honestly love to be wrong about this

[arctic grove]

If that’s true I would be suprised

I always thought it was weird they’d give a sniper a pilot uniform otherwise

[hexed mango]

Recon soldier Wikus is a loner – and the unflappable, calm presence on the Task Force. A former intelligence-gathering operative in South Africa, Wikus is a master of camouflage and long-range engagement.

After stumbling onto a conspiracy involving a senior officer that put the lives of those of his unit and local civilians in danger, Wikus was falsely accused of murder and fled the country. He aligned himself with the No-Pats in hopes of being able to return home one day if there is still a home to return to.

[placid echo]

ngl the Snow outfit from the BP goes well with the Death Headgear from the event

[magic bloom]

That’s like saying rao is a pilot because they have his name on a skin for a jet

[eager spire]

"He aligned himself with the No-Pats in hopes of being able to return home one day if there is still a home to return to." that is a frankly ridiculous amount of faith this man has.

[slender isle]

I think it’s more “let me save everyone so I can go home”

[hexed mango]

ya gotta be kidding me. they removed Escalation BT and Escalation Rush for the fucking event

[arctic grove]

Casper when South African civil war 2

[magic bloom]

Fucking Fr

[arctic grove]

[drowsy shuttle]

Another win as defenders and another loss as attackers... i have the feeling i will only win an attackers match if the defenders are bots

[magic bloom]

When your family dies but sometimes they just line up for you

[hexed mango]

BT A1 on breakaway is a bit underrated as an area of the second worst map

[dull drum]

is the game working? it just says connecting to online services

[magic bloom]

Yes

[ancient peak]

Backcap A and hope the team actually follows through

[hexed mango]

lcmg is goated

[magic bloom]

It’s underrated as fuck specially with tiny barrel and close combat ammo

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah its the only way

Rush for the points near their HQ

[dull drum]

i usually just use the shotgun with a drum, what else should I try

[arctic grove]

AR with drüm

[drowsy shuttle]

Ghostmaker. Without a question

[magic bloom]

AK or P90

[dull drum]

do I need to unlock it?

[ancient peak]

Btw as Defender if you spawn at A you spawn outside the map and if you aren’t fast you will die

[dull drum]

AK24? I have that

[hexed mango]

you need to unlock everything

[dull drum]

yeah ive unlocked a lot, just found my comfort zone with the shottie

[magic bloom]

Shotguns make me feel safe

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol really? Nicely done dice

[kindred flint]

lmao that was literally a thing at the launch of the game...how is it still happening

[ancient peak]

Yeah I got caught on a piece of dead tank debris and died

I was like: Whelp I know where I won’t spawn now

[hexed mango]

yeah its stupid cause for CQA you cant use the base spawn, so its out of combat

[lone wren]

Ambushing tanks with lis is fun

[hexed mango]

bro who decided to give CC ammo on the LCMG 200 rounds lmao

[atomic egret]

The new one w/slugs is a beast..

[sharp marten]

[magic bloom]

The new one actually feels like a shotgun

[lone wren]

Should grind to get slugs then when I return

[atomic egret]

Fo Sho!

2 hit kills

From good range too..

[magic bloom]

Plus it’s like a Keltec

[hexed mango]

p50 best keltec

[atomic egret]

Pretty much is but less capacity..

[magic bloom]

Yes

Can’t forget the PMR30

[atomic egret]

Keltec 14rds

[magic bloom]

30 rounds of .22 magnum

[hexed mango]

ok someone pick a gun for me to use till I t1

[magic bloom]

The new pistol

[drowsy shuttle]

Hey dice, why my parachute takes 10min to open?

[hexed mango]

any primary recommendations tho

[magic bloom]

VCAR

[hexed mango]

time to kill my fingers

[lone wren]

AM40 my current favourite

[magic bloom]

Cause fuck your trigger finger

Should I t1 the new shotgun or the railgun

[lone wren]

Be interesting if the railgun had a shotgun config

[hexed mango]

hitscan shotgun. good idea

[formal igloo]

JTF vet mackay looks so sad

[magic bloom]

But he claimed Everest it should all be down hill from there

[limber sonnet]

2042 is sickening

[lone wren]

Based on what

[limber sonnet]

Just the fact that they have to rework maps is obvious enough

[magic bloom]

L

[limber sonnet]

$70 game and we still reworking maps

[magic bloom]

Because the maps are huge?

Takes them awhile to fix them

[limber sonnet]

regardless of why just the fact that they are FIXING them for a full price AAA game

[lone wren]

Nothing wrong with map reworks

[limber sonnet]

braindead

[magic bloom]

They should fix MW2 if we’re going to that extent

[eager spire]

To be fair there is everything wrong with the fact that they were so bad that they warranted reworks in the first place.

[limber sonnet]

ya MW2 is not exempt either

[errant scarab]

I agree

[lone wren]

Indeed

[magic bloom]

Your opinion is now even more valid

[eager spire]

Modern FPS games are just really bad.

[limber sonnet]

MW2 needs to be uninstalled from our reality

[eager spire]

Like there’s not a single good one.

[hexed mango]

but i mean im glad they're fixing them even tho they shouldnt of been broke to start

[eager spire]

Not one.

[hard plume]

Yay they’re bringing back 128 breaktrhough! I mean its for a week and only one map but still

[lone wren]

Just there for money farming then cut the cord whenever they are satisfied

[magic bloom]

I mean let’s at least be glad they’re fixing the maps and not just telling us to go fuck ourselves like half the stuff with mw2

[dull drum]

when? I thought stepping down to 64 was a terrible decision

[magic bloom]

In 2 weeks

[compact zealot]

First time playing. Just started this afternoon. Playing Exodus Conquest but willing to play whatever. Wondering if anyone would run me through a few matches just to get the hang of it. I am on PC and only been a PC Gamer for a year or so. Really enjoy the game but would love to get with a group just to get the hang of the game. I have a mic but for some reason I don’t here voice chat. My EA and Steam username is Djxgam1ng

[arctic grove]

This technically could apply to anything that’s changed at player request in a 70 dollar game

[dull drum]

sure the game was more playable, but thats not the product we paid for

[hard plume]

Last week of the event so yeah 2 weeks

[eager spire]

I mean sure but let’s not act like that’s fixed the game’s problems.

[magic bloom]

If I was on pc I’d do it

[hexed mango]

is the vcar keltec

[hard plume]

They really need to add to portal

[magic bloom]

Yes the CMR30

[ancient peak]

Yes

[hexed mango]

ah

i remember now.

[lone wren]

Who seems curious about the next battlefields story

[arctic grove]

It will be this:

[hexed mango]

i am always curious

[arctic grove]

war

[hexed mango]

curious about what that thang do

[magic bloom]

War with Thailand this time instead of China or Russia

[hard plume]

Is hell?

[hexed mango]

thang being the game

[eager spire]

The recoil is still bugged. The mouse input is still fucked. The squad menu does not actually function as a squad menu, over a year later.

[arctic grove]

Mercury new quips update?

[errant scarab]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Dammit you deleted it

[lone wren]

Personally I do want a return of the Vietnam war era

[arctic grove]

What’s this country called?

[hexed mango]

i think im developing Stockholm syndrome for the vcar

[errant scarab]

90% of fans don't like this game

[lone wren]

What about Australia new Zealand

[eager spire]

I don’t particularly care about the story of the next Battlefield game.

[magic bloom]

Australia

[eager spire]

I care about how it’s gonna play.

[magic bloom]

And New Zealand

[hexed mango]

i mean i care about the story cause itll affect whats in the game lol

gotta have the US involved if you want cool weaponry

[lone wren]

Don't forget new Zealand is on the Oceania region

Yeah

[magic bloom]

I also said New Zealand

[lone wren]

I saw

As I sent it

[magic bloom]

Lol

[errant scarab]

The game is a joke wtf

[hexed mango]

what if we did a modern reenactment of the korean war

[lone wren]

I'm on my phone with no WiFi so reception hits different

[hexed mango]

you*

[eager spire]

You know what I want a war game without the US. Just to see what happens.

[magic bloom]

Nice opinion to bad I have my own

[lone wren]

I mean one of the maps is in south Korea

[hexed mango]

no F22

[magic bloom]

South Korea vs North Korea

That actually doesn’t sound bad

[errant scarab]

a battle of 128 players and the maps look same, it does not seem that there is a war

[hexed mango]

just because kaleido is in sk doesnt mean its part of the korean war bozo

[eager spire]

It’s all proxy war bullshit

[arctic grove]

But…. Then we don’t get any skins from the drippiest military on earth

[subtle raptor]

You've sent at least 3 messages just to complain about the game, if it's that bad why waste your time complaining to people who mostly like it??

[hexed mango]

just not 1950s, like modern

[arctic grove]

Like honestly. MARPAT and multicam>>>>>>>

[hexed mango]

a fictional version of a Russian backed NK and a US backed SK fighting in S and N Korea and along the DMZ.

[magic bloom]

Yeah obv

[subtle raptor]

NK vs SK would be almost the same as what we have now lol unless you mean a campaign

[lone wren]

I want a battlefield title to at least go back to the Napoleon war era just for the memes

[errant scarab]

2042 player like this

[magic bloom]

Ewwww Multicam the fed boy camo

[arctic grove]

I dunno why but multicam has grown on me

Like so much

[eager spire]

I don’t really understand people that have actual preferences for camo.

[hexed mango]

well yes but more flushed out and yes with campaign (which is a part of the next game)

[magic bloom]

Multicam alpine>>>>>

[eager spire]

Like, it all looks the same to me.

I don’t get it.

[magic bloom]

Multicam alpine Is prob the best

[arctic grove]

How dare you?

[eager spire]

None of it looks any good even.

[errant scarab]

You banned?

[arctic grove]

alright bud now you’re crossing the line

[hexed mango]

bro is colorblind and actual blind

[magic bloom]

Tiger stripe>>>>>>>>>>> your favorite camo

[hexed mango]

hopefully [jk]

[arctic grove]

MARPAT is very different than multicam for instance

and kewler

[subtle raptor]

Yeah I heard that the next game is gonna have a campaign I just hope it doesn't replace 2042 for multiplayer

[hexed mango]

[subtle raptor]

Cause I thought the point of 2042 was the end all be all multiplayer battlefield

[eager spire]

Lol

[subtle raptor]

At least it looked that way before launch

[lone wren]

What's wrong with muskets and bayonets

[eager spire]

Lmao even

[arctic grove]

Imagine a napoleon era BF game and the OP vehicle is like some 7 pounder cannon

[errant scarab]

when will the DLC with destruction come out

[arctic grove]

In 59 minutes

[magic bloom]

Loaded with grapeshot that just vaporizes the poor fucker than gets in range

[errant scarab]

And Inmersion DLC?

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

wdym by replace? next game is gonna have:

• campaign (ridgeline)
• multiplayer (dice)
• a "new" experience (could be anything, ripple effect)

[arctic grove]

1 day, 59 minutes

[eager spire]

I might as well be. I genuinely cannot tell any difference between most of the camos people throw out.

[arctic grove]

I mean there’s copycat camos

[errant scarab]

What about good game DLC?

[magic bloom]

2 months 5 days 3 hours and 36 seconds

[eager spire]

Like I’d rather just run solid black, I don’t care.

[hexed mango]

this game doesnt get DLCs

[arctic grove]

But if you look at tiger stripe and MARPAT they are noticeably different

Yeah all black is dope

[arctic grove]

2 years and 59 minutes

[magic bloom]

Bright red camo

[errant scarab]

Next battlefield right?

[eager spire]

Sure it’s not particularly effective as a camo but it’s a video game so I don’t give a shit.

[subtle raptor]

Like has most of the core modes that 2042 has, and since it's the same setting it might drive people away from 2042

[magic bloom]

I mean no one’s forcing you to play

[subtle raptor]

Not like anything I say would effect their decision, but it makes sense to me to build up a multiplayer that has whatever guns modes vehicles etc that people want so you can focus purely on the campaign

[lone wren]

I do want to see more naval war

[eager spire]

Why?

[errant scarab]

Why? You have cod gameplay

[eager spire]

What’s the appeal of that, it looks fucking boring.

[magic bloom]

Naval warfare would have to be made damn near perfect for it to be good

[lone wren]

I don't play cod at all

[arctic grove]

Well think about it like this

BF1 let you hurl cannon shells between the dreadnought behemoths

[subtle raptor]

How do you even do naval warfare any ships that would be fun to fight with need a huge crew

[arctic grove]

Imagine that but with like modern destroyers or some kewl shit

[eager spire]

Even in BF1 that looks fucking boring.

[arctic grove]

Although naval maps are probably hard to make good so idk

[magic bloom]

Probably the same way they solo pilot tanks

[errant scarab]

Do you want naval warfare in 2042? I don't want to imagine how horrible, I don't think they can do such a level of development

[subtle raptor]

It's different with a ship though way bigger

[arctic grove]

They’ve done it before just not under this dev team

[eager spire]

I don’t think naval warfare is worth representing at all.

[arctic grove]

The ships would probably glitch and fly into the air or something

[eager spire]

Genuinely.

[subtle raptor]

Bros just on here to complain

[median tusk]

Brutal expectations™️

[magic bloom]

I think naval warfare would have to be its own separate game mode to work right

[arctic grove]

Sorta

Or have it’s own supported maps almost entirely for it

[sharp marten]

If y’all need double xp it’s on rush and team death match

[errant scarab]

Because is imposible

[sharp marten]

[lone wren]

Or maybe for the sake of it return to island hopping

[magic bloom]

I could have 4x xp since I have a booster?

[eager spire]

Island hopping is the fucking worst

[sharp marten]

Fuck idk maybe

[eager spire]

BF4 was terrible for that.

[magic bloom]

Battlefield but it’s the Australians vs Emu war

[lone wren]

Improve the worst aspects make it fun instead of burying it

[lone wren]

Too boring

[errant scarab]

Do you want container warfare?

[sharp marten]

Yes

[eager spire]

I say bury the worst aspects, and keep the good aspects. If a concept is bad, scrap it.

Sweet spot was bad. Scrap it. Spread to recoil conversion. Scrap it. Conquest Assault and Tactical Conquest. Scrap them.

[arctic grove]

At the end of the day I feel like pretty much anything that’s been quipped the next game will flirt with

Except some weirder exceptions and suggestions

[lone wren]

Bit basic

[eager spire]

DICE have made good ideas in the past. They just need to use all of them in one game.

[errant scarab]

But no this game...

[arctic grove]

IMPO

Keep the plus menu and 128

[lone wren]

I mean a lot of the devs are probably new replacing the old devs that left battlefield

[errant scarab]

Yes 128 players good idea... I want 200vs200

[eager spire]

Yes thanks for stating the obvious Sherlock we really appreciate it. Now go back in the corner.

[onyx mica]

I love this game

[median tusk]

please be satire

[arctic grove]

-100 boins for insulting Mercury

200v200

It’s just the middle of nowhere

[lone wren]

Well can the engine handle 200 v 200

[errant scarab]

Its impossible add every mechanic in this game

[arctic grove]

Yes

[magic bloom]

It’s just the Egyptian desert

[median tusk]

No, neither the average pc/console

[eager spire]

The plus menu is certainly an interesting concept but in practice I feel like it introduces a lot of potential balance problems that cannot be fixed without effectively nuking the system.

[arctic grove]

Renewal but imagine no wall or anything

[eager spire]

Shut up

[arctic grove]

Like what? Curiously asking

Perhaps instead of 3 slots it could go down to 2?

[errant scarab]

they wanted to copy the animations of BFV, but it looks horrible with those movements

[lone wren]

I am honestly glad I held back from being completely interested in battlefield and just put my time to hell let loose

[arctic grove]

Like, you have to be a little bit more carefully. Instead of a close, medium and long range option, will you do medium range and long range, short and long range, etc

[arctic grove]

I doubt they intended to copy BFVs animations on this game

They are way different

[magic bloom]

I’m glad I was a hardline fan

[arctic grove]

More than likely simplified them intentionally

[eager spire]

How do you balance a system that allows you to just suddenly and randomly equip a master key shotgun whenever you want? How do you balance the different ammo types?

[arctic grove]

Make the master key lowkey awful

like it is

[errant scarab]

They wanted to do the same, it looks bad comparing it against bfv that is from 4 years ago

[magic bloom]

I feel like it’s ok if your just putting subsonic or plus P ammo into your gun but not complete caliber changes

[eager spire]

Sure there’s an argument to be made for versatility, but at the same time I feel like it’s a bit much to allow people to just quickly change attachments like this on the fly.

[arctic grove]

In that case don’t scrap it but revise it

[eager spire]

Nah they should just scrap it.

[arctic grove]

I like this suggestion for example

[magic bloom]

Like if you wanna change the barrel I’d say make you go through an animation of let’s just say for the sake of argument untwist the barrel

[median tusk]

You are starting to run in circles

[drowsy shuttle]

did like 10 matches... won every game as defenders, lost every game as attackers lol

[arctic grove]

No, since basically I think it could lose its 3 slots for 2, and add animations for certain attachment changes. Also prevent stuff like an entire caliber change instantly

[errant scarab]

when the v1 rocket falls and explodes nearby the soldier falls... incredible

[magic bloom]

Like how some guns have quick change barrels you could implement an animation into that same with optics, muzzle devices under barrel accessories

So your not just instantly converting your gun into a DMR

[arctic grove]

although I suppose it would kinda be the same thing to go from 6.8mm to 9mm like the m5a3 but with a standard barrel to an extended one

But no, I’m not even sure what you mean by going in circles, since I was saying I’d rather them keep the plus system

[eager spire]

I donno I just feel like the system was interesting in concept but in practice it’s just a pain to balance.

[lone wren]

But yeah I admire battlefield to try new things instead of the same recipe some of y'all desperately want

[magic bloom]

Exactly

[median tusk]

truth at last

[arctic grove]

We don’t want the same game over and over. We just don’t want certain things changed because it proves there’s a disconnect in the higher levels of management

[magic bloom]

Imagine bf3 or 4 with the plus system

[errant scarab]

make it a quality recipe.

[eager spire]

“Same Recipe” if all the games are the same recipe then it’s never been made properly.

[arctic grove]

The only constant should be

[lone wren]

How you want you battlefield sounds like the kfc recipe

[arctic grove]

No specialists

and class system

[errant scarab]

Battlefield feel like a WARR thats the recipe

[lone wren]

That has been the unique part

[eager spire]

Like I’ve said before. DICE have had good ideas in relation to Battlefield. They’ve just never had all those good ideas at once. They’ve always fucked at least something up.

[arctic grove]

Speaking of ideas and the plus system I see what you mean about balancing

[magic bloom]

If they added all the good idea to one game it would go down as the best battlefield ever

[median tusk]

To sum up your point some of the things people say here make me think if they ever took a class or spent time to understand design philosophy

[magic bloom]

I mean for the plus system you could only have certain guns change our certain attachments

[errant scarab]

Sorry battlefield is

Heavy gameplay
Destruction
Levolution
Class system
Maps
Weapons

[magic bloom]

Like LMGS you can change the barrel after you do an animation cause of quick change barrels

[arctic grove]

Address the things that make you ask that, a chance for everyone to learn

[arctic grove]

Yea this is a nice idea imo

Make it take time to change your gun

Perhaps only one change per use of the system. Then you have to pull it up again and go through another anim? I’m not sure

[magic bloom]

And maybe smgs can change muzzle devices considering they just screw on and off

[lone wren]

I slowly took a break from battlefield to try other games to feel inspired to give some kind of a idea to the table not as a copy

[arctic grove]

Well the problem with that is what works for another game may not necessarily work for a BF game

So just keep that in mind

[lone wren]

I know

[arctic grove]

Although I’m ngl I know what you mean, I’ll see some little cool shit in mw2 and say Battlefield needs it lol

[magic bloom]

Battlefield with proximity chat

[arctic grove]

Y e s.

[magic bloom]

It’s just incoherent screaming between the two teams

[lone wren]

I mean with battlefield 1 to include a map that had war in the air the sea and on land

[median tusk]

People complain a lot about the lack of weapons, yes it is underwhelming, but is it really worth the time of the devs to model a new mesh with different properties, sound and animations when the players will only really use like 4 guns because " they are the meta" ?

People at release wanted cover in the maps because they were too empty, they did that, now people complain its all crates

Some of you do not see the business part that specialists was attempting to bring to 2042, staying with random soldiers was not going to be profitable in a gaming world full of micro transactions

You forgot the pandemic existed and that it hindered EVERY studio (not defending dice) and that caused major rewires in the corporation's framework

[magic bloom]

And can for the love of god can we actually use the back if we use transport helicopters

[arctic grove]

The way you use you is concerning

But alright

[median tusk]

sorry if you disaggree but no corporation will sacrifice profits for the sake of old school fans

[errant scarab]

Lot text

[eager spire]

Like, here’s the things that DICE have fucked up in each BF game, starting from BF4.

BF4: Maps. BF4’s gameplay works really well for close quarters infantry gameplay. Yet, there are barely any good infantry maps in the game. Most of the maps seem vehicle centric.

Hardline: Tear gas was a mistake, and weapon balance was iffy.

BF1: Lighting sucked due to bugs introduced with HDR support, sweet spot was introduced which trivialized sniping, they had a single unique movement mechanic but they nerfed it so badly that it’s barely useful.

BFV: Improved movement from BF1. Fucked up the gunplay by adding spread to recoil conversion post launch.

[median tusk]

I mean they wanted examples

[magic bloom]

It would also be nice if transports had an incentive to pick up troops on the ground

[arctic grove]

Agree with 4, agree with 3 completely, agree with 2 (although I’m pretty sure it’s mostly jokes lol)

Disagree about 1. I don’t like the “quality over quantity” shit because it directly will justify significantly smaller content “cause the meta” when it’s not necessarily about that. For instance in BF4s case. You were given options that fit what you liked aesthetically that performed the sake as other guns for the same of still being competent against meta

[lone wren]

I do want to have a paratroopers moment

[arctic grove]

Like how much can you do before you run out of unique recoil patterns for guns anyways

So many guns are on 5.56 it’s insane lol

[magic bloom]

Yeah imagine a condor pilot opening the back of the condor and like 30 dudes just jumping out the back

[eager spire]

You don’t need unique recoil patterns.

[arctic grove]

Yeah I know. It’s just an example

[median tusk]

Its the generic standard for any shooter

[lone wren]

That be fun

[arctic grove]

Even in 2042 which according to how I’ve read people perceive it, does ‘quality over quantity’ people still want more because that eventually gets boring

[lone wren]

A transport variant condor

[hexed mango]

ikr

[magic bloom]

Yes

[arctic grove]

At least in 4, if I really want to, I can pop someone with a CZ75

[hexed mango]

its already a transport

[magic bloom]

Yes but it can open the back cargo door and send dudes out the back as paratroopers

[eager spire]

Also, another note about BF1 is that they fucked up how domination and conquest work. So there’s that.

[arctic grove]

Yes, but even RU uses a specific amount of cartridges iirc

[eager spire]

Also I’m sorry but Elite classes are inexcusable.

[hexed mango]

just add that to the one that already exists dont make another variant

[magic bloom]

That’s what I mean

[median tusk]

At beta it was about as buggy as 2042 and right now people are glorifying to death the game

[magic bloom]

It would also be cool if we could put like a Jeep in the back and air drop it out

[arctic grove]

But yeah man that’s just my opinion. I think the game generally needs more gameplay content, even if some of the differences are only how the gun visually looks. It’s an option for when you get bored of the meta or wanna use a gun you aesthetically like and not get shit on for not playing meta

Yes but BF1 isn’t at beta performance now is it?

[eager spire]

To be fair, it is more mechanically sound than 2042. I don’t recall BF1 ever having issues with recoil or mouse input for over a year.

[lone wren]

Release the paratroopers

[arctic grove]

Every BF gets shit on during beta/launch because they perform honestly bad. People will stop talking about it if the game stops being that buggy

[eager spire]

BF1’s problems are mostly gameplay related.

[arctic grove]

2042 still needs a lot of work so you’re still going to hear people quip about it’s bugs

[magic bloom]

In your opinion what’s better the hind or the condor

[arctic grove]

Condor

[median tusk]

In my personal experience i still have massive mouse delays even after 6 years

[arctic grove]

Most definitely

[magic bloom]

For me it’s the condor

[lone wren]

In regards of bf1 they sacrificed a lot of stuff for cinematic gameplay

[arctic grove]

Not even just for aesthetics. The condor can fly like a jet and heli, it’s way better at escaping stuff

[eager spire]

It’s getting up to the level of acceptable, but it’s not there yet. No amount of YouTube clickbait will change that.

[eager spire]

Never had that problem.

[arctic grove]

That’s definitely a balancing issue, I was referring to a general point with my comment tho, my bad

PP29 is pretty damn good though. Even when it was nerfed. I dunno

[hexed mango]

its always been nice

[arctic grove]

Eh yeah you probably could justify it with that lol

9mm ap funnies

[arctic grove]

I used it yesterday to good effect

[lone wren]

I am good with using the luger apparently

[pearl ridge]

It kind of says something about conquest assault that the defenders usually win even though most of them don’t even know that you have to drop in your own vehicles due to the lack of home base

[arctic grove]

Sometimes my muscle memory is fookin amazing so I can laser people with it

[pearl ridge]

The PP was nerfed from Absolute Bullshit to Great.

[median tusk]

the good type of bullshit i suposse

because i recall it being completely broken

[pearl ridge]

Nah it was the bad kind.

[median tusk]

huh

[arctic grove]

I can’t really comment on it much at launch besides remembering it was the only gun that apparently had its bullets go where you aim

I mostly forgot about all of that

[pearl ridge]

BF meta has always favoured ROF and big mags.

But specifically with SMGs and ARs because their recoil is super controllable. LMGs don’t have it so easy.

[eager spire]

“SMG’s are not weapons which should reward accuracy versus other weapon types” -DICE, 2022

[arctic grove]

That sounds so weird

[eager spire]

Yeah, it does. Because it’s insane.

[pearl ridge]

They’re all about close range spraying though. That’s the point.

[arctic grove]

Well i feel that would make sense if they would be dropping the bullet damage ranges then right?

[eager spire]

Still even in close range rewarding accuracy is important.

[arctic grove]

But I think they said that then nerfed their headshot damage multiplier

I couldn’t be 100% sure

[eager spire]

In fact rewarding accuracy is necessary for any FPS game that has ever existed

[kindred flint]

hilarious that recoil can be totally negated by...mouse settings?

[eager spire]

Not rewarding that makes no fucking sense.

[arctic grove]

Is that caching thing still around btw?

[eager spire]

Yes.

They’ve not fixed it yet.

[kindred flint]

not sure...the devs were aware of it

[arctic grove]

Huh strange, I wonder if when they’ll fix it I’ll strangely do 30x better, I heard it’s on all platforms

[kindred flint]

but knowing how long it takes to hotfix something simple..probably still around

[eager spire]

They’re aware of it, yes. But it’s not been fixed yet. Probably won’t be till 3.2, maybe.

That’s a guess.

[hexed mango]

wait

recoil negation

do tell

[arctic grove]

I always thought it was just my recoil control. But it was weird cause some days I did fine, then I couldn’t hit shit

Nobody say skill issue

[median tusk]

skill issue

[eager spire]

Ikill sssue

[hexed mango]

whats this setting

[kindred flint]

issue of skill?

[arctic grove]

[eager spire]

But no seriously I donno when it’ll get fixed.

[hexed mango]

what is this setting

[eager spire]

We just know that the devs know about it and they know what’s causing it.

[arctic grove]

Hmm interesting

[eager spire]

Kinda wish they would say what it is but I feel like it’s probably embarrassing if they’re not, considering it’s been a problem since beta.

[hexed mango]

everyone gonna ignore me

[arctic grove]

I couldn’t tell ya

[eager spire]

Y’all hear something?

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna delete that before I get warned after being perceived breaking that one rule

[median tusk]

console warmongers? yes

[errant scarab]

i agreeeeeeeee

[arctic grove]

I agree with all the points but the gun one

[errant scarab]

who

[arctic grove]

Despite being fully aware they did away with my anonymous tacticool guys for mtx I still want them anyways

Like can’t they sell skins for those same tacticool characters that give them more cool skins and shit that we wanna buy?

[eager spire]

Yeah I don’t agree with the gun point

[arctic grove]

You said you agreed with wav and I was just talking about how the only one I didn’t agree with was the one relating to the gun count

[median tusk]

Making randomized characters would mean you would not always use your cosmetics, and making them able to be selected would just be a discrete specialist system

[eager spire]

Saying that it’s okay that the game doesn’t have many guns because a meta exists is kind of just a bone headed statement and I really hate it

[median tusk]

Not saying it is okay at all, but it is my perspective

[eager spire]

Well I hate that perspective.

[magic bloom]

Me slamming the engines down on my condor going full speed at the stealth helicopter after he direct impacts my condor and I shrug it off killing the stealth heli instantly due to jet ramming cause fuck stealth helis

[median tusk]

fair

[eager spire]

Like, it’s not the fault of the playerbase that the weapon balancing doesn’t allow for many guns to be viable.

[arctic grove]

I’m a bit confused by how you worded what you said so break it down if you don’t mind

[magic bloom]

Also what’s better now 50 mm or 40 mm on the transports

[arctic grove]

40mm for sure

50mm sucks for how much those damn pilots jerk around

If they sit still it’s good still but 40mm for your average scenario

[magic bloom]

I try to not jerk my condor around when they’re firing unless I gotta dodge but then again by that point I’m already putting it in plane mode

^

[arctic grove]

Nah you’re good man, I don’t get mad at pilots for not being statues lol it’s just definitely not effective with how much they move

[magic bloom]

Condor is simply better because jet engine powered osprey

[kindred flint]

guys serious question, are you even battlefielding unless you run mackay med pen?

[copper fulcrum]

Hind climbs faster though and height game wins battles

[arctic grove]

Yeah I do remember hearing about the slight differences between the hind and condor

[median tusk]

Unnamed soldier means not making cosmetic specific to one character

Making them for a class means there would be less cosmetics per class, less profits from a business point

Not viable for funny game company

there, simplified it

[arctic grove]

I heard once the hind has slightly more HP?

[magic bloom]

But doesn’t the condor when you put the engines down and point it straight in the air

[copper fulcrum]

That takes time to do though

[arctic grove]

I feel like they also increased the engine transition time too

[kindred flint]

isnt that the hover mode? so you move a lot slower

[copper fulcrum]

It has to angle itself upwards, turn into VTOL and wait for the engines to go up
Hind just holds a key

[magic bloom]

Yeah you move way slower in hover mode with the condor

[kindred flint]

dont even joke about that

[magic bloom]

If that becomes possible I’m uninstalling

[copper fulcrum]

That will be possible

[eager spire]

I mean hey if DICE wants to fuck around, they can find out.

[arctic grove]

Ah, I see what you mean now

I suppose then that kinda reminds me of how BFV does it’s customization, do you think that’s a better option that won’t be as disliked? Curiously asking

[median tusk]

It might have a good reception, it might not. People are really unpredictable

[eager spire]

BFV probably would’ve been better if they didn’t add spread to recoil conversion.

[copper fulcrum]

Let's just call it random recoil because it basically is

[eager spire]

Ok.

[median tusk]

There is one recoil system which is arguable the most realistic, but the most complex and tedious for gameplay

the physics based one

[eager spire]

yeah ok so it’s not worth using for an arcade shooter.

Could’ve guessed that myself.

[median tusk]

just sayin'

[eager spire]

I am also just saying.

[kindred flint]

physics based...is that when your mouse jumps up and beats the shit out of you when you use an LMG?

[magic bloom]

Nah when you use a shotgun

[arctic grove]

You use a shotgun and it propels itself into your palm at Mach speed

[median tusk]

lol no, basically it uses properties that simulates recoil as a real gun would do and the projectile (bullet) goes where the barrel is headed to after the shot is fired

instead of the traditional hitscan+separate pre-defined recoil animation

[arctic grove]

Smart people terms

[mystic loom]

@solar obsidian Finally, I found out what happened. I still was trying to fix, then it freezed and said my gpu drivers crashed. So I reverted to older drivers and it works perfect. 120 fps no stutter

[median tusk]

nah its just terms used for game dev

[lone wren]

Stealth bomber in 2042 when

[arctic grove]

1 season