My go to is probably the P90 or a shotgun with the PF51 as a sidearm
#battlefield-2042
magic bloom
next onyx
The 20 round high powered mag reloads pretty quickly, The standard rounds reload lightning quick and the drums are a bit slow-ish.
naive magnet
I hate people like you haha
magic bloom
I hate people like you haha
Good that’s the goal
naive magnet
Ending my rampages in close quarters gaha
magic bloom
It just is different from the AK
next onyx
Extended mag RPK 74M carries 60+1 rounds and has a better damage range plus reload.
naive magnet
sees a pilot out of this world
plays wildcat and makes it a dream to kill them
next onyx
This is just a clip showing off the bad spawns but this is what the reload is like with the drums.
magic bloom
Plus the RPK is chambered in 7.62x39 and the ak24 is 5.45x39
next onyx
It's in the files.
But I remember back in bf3 it can carry 60+1 rounds with the extended mag.
naive magnet
Good timing on that clip
next onyx
Ye.
magic bloom
You wanna see some funny shit
next onyx
Oh yeah you can do illegal combos in 2042.
On the bf3 weapons.
Extended mags and laser sights together were not possible in original bf3.
In this one you can.
Yeah what's up Asto.
naive magnet
next onyx
Nevermind the fact that an assault can carry a med box, defibs and a grenade launcher, Originally the M320 was a gadget and would replace the med box.
naive magnet
Here’s some footage of mine
magic bloom
Had to get the clip sorry
naive magnet
I don’t share as well sorry; console gaming haha
next onyx
HMG spray!
magic bloom
I didn’t even know the dude was there tbh
next onyx
Don't stress!
pearl ridge
Who thought high power drums was a good idea
next onyx
I can't see the clip.
magic bloom
Unfortunate
next onyx
High powered drums isn't even a bad idea.
naive magnet
Oh darn; my settings haha
pearl ridge
There are so many questionable balance choices
magic bloom
It’s literally the same as just having a 40 round quad stack mag
next onyx
Usually don't want to take drums for a number of reasons.
Drum mags have a long reload speed.
And the reserve ammo is low.
naive magnet
I think I fixed it
next onyx
For the SCAR it's one of the few guns where it's viable.
magic bloom
But yes me randomly sniping a dude with the HMG was the highlight of my orbital match besides getting a cross map shot on a dude with the railgun
magic bloom
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/K5FSZ4NGP6
If you have the Xbox app you can go save clips there
next onyx
Avancy's isn't bad no.
Extended mags mess with your reload times and lower your reserve ammo.
That's a fair balancing point if anything.
next onyx
Hell the SCAR with its high powered rounds when it was a completely different gun could carry 50+1 rounds.
magic bloom
The pre nerf SCAR was…
next onyx
I hate running Standard extended on the LCMG because I feel my self physically aging reloading that thing with it.
The SCAR at the start of the game was a different gun.
naive magnet
The LCMG sucks for that reason haha
next onyx
Actually nah it's a really good gun!
magic bloom
200 rounds is ample time
Tip for falck you can shoot her darts at the ground and run over them do you can get your gun back up quicker
The LCMG slaps
next onyx
I run standard standard, stubby, champion muzzle and fusion holo.
But I need to get used to not using the champion.
magic bloom
Short barrel close combat rounds and the new laser it just shreds in CQC
next onyx
Short barrel helps the LCMG out so much.
fallen pendant
Fucking bullshit
magic bloom
Yes I agree bullshit
naive magnet
So I’m gonna mess with the scar
next onyx
Really only the VSS and the SCAR can run high powered all the time without any significant drawbacks. And even so the ammo type itself only gives extra range and extra recoil.
magic bloom
Way is now pleased with you binge
next onyx
Yeah you'll like the SCAR!
naive magnet
And the XMG?
magic bloom
XM8 slaps so hard
next onyx
Xm8 yeah definitely give it a go.
naive magnet
XM8; whoops got it
fallen pendant
Idk how you guys are having fun
magic bloom
Smg id say go for the PBX if your into that
naive magnet
I’m having fun cause this game is basically new to me
magic bloom
Idk how you guys are having fun
Don’t care about winning
fallen pendant
Smg id say go for the PBX if your into that
Yeah PBX is a good sub machine gun
next onyx
I just find peace of mind killing people if they're winning.
That sounds really bad.
Uh.
In game.
naive magnet
I drive around and try and run people over in my LAV4 it’s okay
magic bloom
I love using the most dumb tactics
magic bloom
Way I’m like pretty sure you carry half your team wdym
next onyx
And the dying will happen less often when you learn the game more and get used to it all.
I can't carry my team against a stack unfort.
But otherwise I could.
That reminds me.
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I just find peace of mind killing people if they're winning.
i love murder (in a game)
fallen pendant
And the dying will happen less often when you learn the game more and get used t...
I'm trying to inherit my experience in the previous bf games to 2042 but it's not working...
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ferrets are evil creatures
next onyx
magic bloom
I swear one day if I run into way on the other team im gonna be the ultimate dick and just spam shotty
naive magnet
How do people type to me then?
next onyx
Start > RT.
naive magnet
Ahh thanks
next onyx
I can keep a reasonable distance and shoot you from there Asto, Though it depends on the map.
Besides I'll be fighting the connection more than you if that's ever the case.
Kek.
magic bloom
naive magnet
I’m so disappointed I can’t figure out how to share or download that video
magic bloom
Do you have the Xbox app
magic bloom
Did you save the clip
naive magnet
I’ve messed with the settings; yes
naive magnet
No I can’t even download haha
naive magnet
Yeah idk
next onyx
You can download clips through the xbox app on your phone.
naive magnet
I tried and I sound like such an old man when I say I can’t figure out why it’s not letting me download because seemingly everything is fine
naive magnet
Lol^
magic bloom
I Love the railgun tank
naive magnet
Ooh it was a hidden setting that I found
I promise it’ll work now haha
Managed to download it
magic bloom
Anyway hopefully I can get some kinda sleep tonight because I actually have stuff to do tomorrow
naive magnet
I appreciate you answering some questions for me
magic bloom
So I will either see you tomorrow or I’ll be back later
magic bloom
No problem
fiery solar
I wish the railgun tank could actually look up
naive magnet
The scar is the sfar right?
fiery solar
Train
naive magnet
Thank you
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had a weird ass dream last night where dallas from payday 2 was in this game and he fucking ressurected the dead and he could like raise the enemy team and it caused this whole fiasco with russia and ea removed it too late and russia declared war on the usa and it ended the world
do it
pearl ridge
Visibility is so shit on every map that doesn’t take place in broad daylight with clear skies
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if only john EA would enter chat every once in awhile
clever coyote
i think i just ran into a bug. I was teabagging some guy after completely owning him so hard. He was laying there limp and my balls were bouncing right on his head. It was the perfect angle and every dip brushed right on his chin. And then his body just disappeared? Like vanished. I looked around but couldnt see it anymore
broken horizon
left badge
i think i just ran into a bug. I was teabagging some guy after completely owning...
he went to the subatomic level so he could punch it
copper fulcrum
i think i just ran into a bug. I was teabagging some guy after completely owning...
Spawning gets rid of your previous body
arctic grove
Dude is the PlayStation trial for 2042 bugged?
It won’t even let me enter the game
Keeps saying it can’t load persistence data
Did this earlier as well
Never mind it works?
Tf is going on with this game
copper fulcrum
Persistence Error is a connection error
hexed mango
i just saw a yt thumbnail comparing MW2019 and 2042 attention to detail
this gonna end poorly
top comment:
I must congratulate with the work behind battlefield, it's awesome and really incredible how they removed all the millions details and features from the previous games , it must have been a really hard work!
slender isle
Oh I forget that so many of the “tiny detail” stuff was super one sided when they were making the vids
copper fulcrum
People will only know the 'tiny details' stuff from YouTube videos anyways lol
hexed mango
hexed mango
Oh I forget that so many of the “tiny detail” stuff was super one sided when the...
tho tbh, gun wise, mw does have a lot more details overall
i mean 2042 has facial expressions
(from Oskar, who used to make the animations for 2042)
upbeat sand
tho tbh, gun wise, mw does have a lot more details overall
i mean 2042 has faci...
they have guns but do they have heads
copper fulcrum
tho tbh, gun wise, mw does have a lot more details overall
i mean 2042 has faci...
Oh yeah CoD's face animations don't really exist
slender isle
tho tbh, gun wise, mw does have a lot more details overall
i mean 2042 has faci...
2042s general animations I find are just better. MW2 has so much fluff added to it that it becomes really hard to read
copper fulcrum
I still think that 2042's movement animations are better than MW2's especially with how strangely jumpy the MW2 guns are when running
copper fulcrum
Inspecting is only used for YouTube Thumbnails
hexed mango
or to have something to do while waiting for the game to start
copper fulcrum
Which doesn't exactly happen with 2042
hexed mango
but i mean c'mon you cant say that ejecting a round from a lever action rifle just to catch it and put it back in isnt cool
copper fulcrum
It really isn't
hexed mango
copper fulcrum
Oh fuck I lost one bullet, from my rifle
slender isle
but i mean c'mon you cant say that ejecting a round from a lever action rifle ju...
Again… fluff
hexed mango
Again… fluff
regardless its cool that they went through the effort to do it
we have like a handful of cool animations in this game, the pbx one, the m16, the revolver flip and maybe something else idk
copper fulcrum
It's not something a soldier would do lol
hexed mango
tell that to BF1 and BFV
copper fulcrum
or anyone would do when in a warzone, pulling out a bullet to catch it
slender isle
Just cause it “looks good” doesn’t mean it needs to be in the game
Like siege of Shanghai C flag
hexed mango
slender isle
The building is cool when it falls, but after it falls it sucks and shouldn’t be there
copper fulcrum
I don't really count Easter Eggs like those as "details" tbh
hexed mango
i was just talking about animations in general
hexed mango
i mean playing BF Vietnam, i feel like the animations in that are just somehow smoother than in 2042
also have you seen the MW2 gunship downed animation
slender isle
The floating one?
hexed mango
slender isle
Where like you start to float in the cabin?
hexed mango
ye
slender isle
It’s cool but I’d rather get back to gameplay
hexed mango
again. its just the fact that the people working on the animations put effort into it.
copper fulcrum
The more notable thing of that video is the player with the name "Creamy Bussy"
hexed mango
and its not really that the 2042 animations are super bad. i think they're fine and pretty good, i just think some of them maybe dont have the extreme polish other games have had
copper fulcrum
By the way how does your soldier see that through the tablet?
slender isle
and its not really that the 2042 animations are super bad. i think they're fine ...
I actually don’t really know which animation has little polish?
hexed mango
I actually don’t really know which animation has little polish?
mainly the vault ones
hexed mango
idk i think its alright, portal stuff just seems scuffed
wide shore
I just don’t like the m5a3 reload. Yet 4 different guns use it.
hexed mango
but i mean also comparing some of the animations, i think the only issue i see with the animations is that they just look a bit stiffer than some other games, as if there's just some steps to the animations that could be missing
not a major thing, its just it could look a bit "robotic" in a sense
upbeat sand
I just don’t like the m5a3 reload. Yet 4 different guns use it.
I think the default reload in the game is the mp9 style
Or at least similar
wide shore
I think the default reload in the game is the mp9 style
In what way?
Cause it definitely seems the M5 reload is default considering how many guns use it
hexed mango
but i mean also comparing some of the animations, i think the only issue i see w...
could also be said that the guns feel like the dont carry a lot of weight, as if they're light in a way
upbeat sand
In what way?
Cause it definitely seems the M5 reload is default considering ho...
Not exactly but slightly similar
Pbx empty
Mp9
K30 tac
Vcar tac
Some portal guns ect
slender isle
could also be said that the guns feel like the dont carry a lot of weight, as if...
I mean a lot of the guns are very light. Like the LCMG is like 6 pounds wet and ready to roll
hexed mango
I mean a lot of the guns are very light. Like the LCMG is like 6 pounds wet and ...
enter bf1 support carrying a 100 pound lmg
wide shore
Not exactly but slightly similar
Pbx empty
Mp9
K30 tac
Vcar tac
Some portal gu...
Perhaps. In an ideal world every gun would have its own unique animation.
hexed mango
https://youtu.be/T_wZ4mRj3-Q?t=274
ok. please someone watch the AKS animation
upbeat sand
*enter bf1 support carrying a 100 pound lmg*
In that 20 years the soldiers lost so much muscle they need bipods to ads
hexed mango
Perhaps. In an ideal world every gun would have its own unique animation.
mainly cause every gun is different
wide shore
I think the AK reload is one of the best in the game. (AK24 and AKS use it. AN does as well)
upbeat sand
https://youtu.be/T_wZ4mRj3-Q?t=274
ok. please someone watch the AKS animation
Yeah aks needs work
They did smooth it out slightly
Removing that middle pause that was there at launch on the empty reload
Still bad tho
hexed mango
also the PP-2000 clips through the player lol
wide shore
The AC42 reload is nice and weighty
upbeat sand
Ripple effect is definitely not the best at animations
wide shore
Unless they’re making secret reloads
upbeat sand
The MG secret reload does clip through the gun a bit
idle lion
Im back from the salamander bay area... worst fucking weekend out ever
weary thicket
Will the game ever be at it's best probably. NOT but we definitely gonna keep playing this rough glitchy meme
hexed mango
upbeat sand
What type of reload should the aks remade to
hexed mango
a reload, probably
upbeat sand
Cause the ak/am is a bit weighty for a small smg
next onyx
I got the rare m416 part way.
I got an empty reload and started it normally, Clipped onto the zipline and got it kek.
hexed mango
lol
wide shore
Peacekeeper still takes the cake for animations in the BF series
upbeat sand
I got the pk to a service star
If you get a star on the pk you'll get another dog tag
wide shore
The reload itself isn’t very spectacular (other than being an accurate SAA reload) but everything else is amazing
upbeat sand
The pk reload gets a bit scruffed when your running
wide shore
It wouldn’t be Battlefield without a little bit of scuff
hexed mango
It wouldn’t be Battlefield without a little bit of scuff
in this case, a lot
wide shore
BF1 overall has some very nice animations.
hexed mango
indeed
wide shore
Simple, most of them. But great attention to detail
Like spinning the drum on the Parabellum longer depending on rounds expelled. Same thing with the crank on the IMG. Any of the revolver reloads as cumbersome as they are look very good
idle lion
wat dis
prime ember
After moving my game on a ssd from a hdd, the controller doesn't work anymore , If i try to normally start from ea play the game doesn't take any input , if I try with steam (by adding it as a non-seam game) the controller works as keyboard and mouse mockup , i tried to configure it so the X button works as an enter button, etc , but in game it doesn't take any effect, it's a PS4 controller , is just like the controller script of this game is deleted , i also used the repair option from ea play .
upbeat sand
hope S6 happends
hexed mango
hope S6 happends
happends
prime ember
Not confirmed though
hexed mango
yeah thats why he is saying he hopes it happens 
prime ember
The season 5 announcement may be a last try to get some money because people will think they will also continue after
hexed mango
or they care about adding some resemblance of content to the game after a troubling Y1
vivid onyx
The more I learn from youtube bout what cheaters uses 3 thing they use 1 rapid target lock,Radar and xray thats how they were able to cheats and were able to bypass the TOS security.
hexed mango
just play paik, ez
prime ember
or they care about adding some resemblance of content to the game after a troubl...
Or the game will be another battlefront 2 , battlefield 5 case , stop supporting it just when it starts to be good
hexed mango
Or the game will be another battlefront 2 , battlefield 5 case , stop supporting...
seems likely, as this is ea
but i mean i would hope it get to that point at the least tho
prime ember
In favour to another title that will also release unfinished
hexed mango
a painful cycle, indeed
they need to take an extra year or smth to make sure shit is good on launch.
yet ea just wants the preorder money
prime ember
Yep , something may change when people stop preorder and waits to see the game
idle lion
imo its already good, its just missing some maps
prime ember
imo its already good, its just missing some maps
Its fun , I am really enjoying it, it needs more weapons , maps ,vehicles
pseudo pecan
is there practice range or anything similar to try out specialists/weapons
next onyx
is there practice range or anything similar to try out specialists/weapons
AANJ7Z through the portal hosting code thing.
pearl ridge
Seriously it’s amazing how one player can ruin an entire 128 match
pearl ridge
Getting the BSV is a bit of a pain
Turns out it’s surprisingly difficult to get dmr kills over a hundred metres.
Which is weird given that I basically main the damn things
next onyx
You can get it on Co op, Tano.
Solo/Co op.
The Dm7 and SVK are shit.
The VCAR and VSS are the best.
timid hearth
Getting the BSV is a bit of a pain
svk is good for it, and it's easy in the bot mode
timid hearth
I did dmr kills n renewal and the smg kills in spearhead
pearl ridge
I go on the VAB on Orbital.
next onyx
It's a carbine semi.
scenic frost
i do HC for those
next onyx
Keltec CMR-30.
scenic frost
its frustrating sometimes, but when you get to a good spot, kills come easy
waxen arrow
hey question 
if I host a portal, can anyone joinin? No invite required
next onyx
Huh so the CMR 30 is a rifle version of the PMR 30.
If you host a portal server can anyone join? If so, Yeah!
scenic frost
I did them with the SV in like 3 rounds of the map that is basically a ship cementery
waxen arrow
If you host a portal server can anyone join? If so, Yeah!
epic
next onyx
Both the CMR and PMR fires .22 magnum rounds.
quaint vector
hey question <:firFear:785676580760322059> if I host a portal, can anyone joinin...
Players can join your Server through Server Browser in Portal
pearl ridge
I hate shooting at bots. They’re so stupid that they can’t be predicted
fluid portal
PBX is lowkey kinda busted
quaint vector
PP is better.
pearl ridge
Ugh why does it have to be sixty kills
fluid portal
PP is better.<:RaccoonGun:769382531338338365>
Not at least 800rpm not good smh
slender isle
PP is better.<:RaccoonGun:769382531338338365>
PP recoil kinda fucks it a lil
Pbx with CQB rounds is amazing
pearl ridge
I don’t trust anything with more than thirty bullets without a belt
quaint vector
PP recoil is low tho..
slender isle
PP has messy horizontal
quaint vector
Never had any problems with that gun
slender isle
Like it’s not even a competition against the pbx
fluid portal
Even as a pbx enthusiast i can say that the PP is a pleasure to use
Apart from the low rate of fire but thats just personal preference
robust vapor
slender isle
I’m not saying it’s a bad gun at all. I’m just saying the pbx is better
fluid portal
Kinda sad that K30 is now very bad
I havent had any problems with it
quaint vector
It has very low damage now...
fluid portal
I needa start reading patch notes
quaint vector
In one Update, SMG's got nerfed but K30 had the huge change from all of them..
fluid portal
It still shreds for me tbh
fluid portal
If youre using the K30 at that range anyway you deserve to lose that duel
next onyx
I love abusing people who use the K30.
I love the Vector but it's a cancer gun to fight in game.
waxen arrow
Anyone else think battlefield
will have plans to expand portal & add more guns to the current portal maps & add other battlefields like 4,5,1? Would be so epic x3
next onyx
If you're going to make it so powerful you need to heavily limit it and not allow people to beam you from 50M away with it.
fluid portal
Imagine not just playing within your effective range and using cover
quaint vector
I love the Vector but it's a cancer gun to fight in game.
Now its shotguns + Railgun..
next onyx
I do think the railgun with 3x and upwards should have glint.
Or have a bright blue light when it's charging.
Like with the TOR.
fluid portal
The new JackFrags vid shows everything wrong with Rorsch users
Love the guy but that was a boring asf vid to watch because of the rorsch playstyle
next onyx
Yeah I had to watch it. It was annoying.
I hate it when people say things are overpowered.
Without actually knowing the meaning of it.
Overpowered means to break the balance and I actually to a degree agree with that. But with some adjustments they can be made less powerful which made me think. How would I adjust the railgun.
fluid portal
Overpowered means to break the balance and I actually to a degree agree with tha...
I disagree on that definition
eager spire
I do think the railgun fucks up the balance by mostly making sniper rifles redundant
Personally I just wouldn’t have the railgun in the game.
next onyx
If I had to. I would remove the 6x scope from it and make the 3x scopes produce a glint, Additionally tell the person on the other end that there is a railgun charging up in their general direction.
A blue light, Not glint but a blue like uh, flash?
This gives people information.
Makes it so that you cannot so easily hide with the railgun.
You won't have a scope that can extend your range even further than it should.
eager spire
Tell the person on the other end that there’s a railgun charging up in their general direction
How would that work over a distance, though? How would you make sure that’s actually noticeable?
fluid portal
I would say that to be overpowered means to make everything else within your class obsolete. Because no matter the game you cant just have a full team of 'X' and have it work a charm
eager spire
Also entirely unrelated but look at this shit I got on another server
quaint vector
fluid portal
Ngl Sundance wingsuit is fine on literally every map
As long as theres a tiny ledge you can get the timing advantage while entering a duel
eager spire
Yeah but you have to consider: this person is very dumb.
fluid portal
Yes chef, sorry chef
slender isle
If I had to. I would remove the 6x scope from it and make the 3x scopes produce ...
Personally I’d just remove the 6x and make the charge up time .5 of a second longer
eager spire
I’m still sticking with my initial statement, personally I would not have the railgun in the game as it is.
You cannot properly balance a railgun while having a railgun’s unique properties. I would either make it a map specific gun like it was in BF4 or scrap it entirely.
slender isle
I’m still sticking with my initial statement, personally I would not have the ra...
Why? It’s literally just OP if you’ve got good aim
eager spire
Still invalidates sniper rifles at their intended distance.
pearl ridge
Fuck armour.
slender isle
If you’re an average player then the railgun I arguably a shitty AR and a good long range sniper, but only if you hit heads
eager spire
Which is an issue.
slender isle
It’s a 3 hit kill above 100m. Unlike every other sniper where it is 2
It has 0 drop, so does the dxr
It has a large mag capacity, like the sws
eager spire
Yes but the high velocity makes hitting heads very easy and it has a higher mag capacity than the DXR.
slender isle
Mag capacity on a sniper literally does not matter at all
eager spire
it’s the best of both snipers, invalidating both of them.
fluid portal
If i could change the rorsch i would make it more like the AT rifles in BF5
slender isle
I’d use the dxr over the railgun for long range and sws for close range
eager spire
Why?
slender isle
If you extend out the charge up time to be slightly longer it’s balanced oht
arctic grove
Hey guys guess what, I just got 242 revives in 1 game 
eager spire
I don’t agree that increasing the charge time would make the gun more balanced.
The fact that the gun has a charge time at all doesn’t seem to effect how useful it can be at range.
fluid portal
Games should be balanced with the best players in mind and charge time wouldnt mean a thing to them
eager spire
Thing is basically like the p06 from BO3 and nobody gave a shit about the charge time in that game.
slender isle
The fact that the gun has a charge time at all doesn’t seem to effect how useful...
The charge time would absolutely make it balanced are you kidding me? You give it an extra half second you’ll have to lead extremely well
Close range it would be very very hard
You’d lose against anyone within like 40m
The sfar is like 10x more broken than the railgun
fluid portal
The charge time would absolutely make it balanced are you kidding me? You give i...
And the best players, the ones that actually have impact on the game, would be able to adjust easily still putting it in an extremely oppressive spot
eager spire
Oh wow, leading with a very high velocity weapon, against people that likely aren’t even aware that you’re aiming at them.
Very difficult.
slender isle
And the best players, the ones that actually have impact on the game, would be a...
Why are we balancing for the super duper best players again? The top 1% of people?
Sounds stupid
magic bloom
I mean fish has a point balancing for the top tier ruins games
fluid portal
Why are we balancing for the super duper best players again? The top 1% of peopl...
Because they actually have impact on each game played? Steve on his day off from work going 6 - 12 doesnt give a shit and wont have the impact on the game that someone who knows what theyre doing will
slender isle
You’ll end up with the siege effect of having 0 fun left in the game because everything is nerfed to hell thanks to pro league
fluid portal
I mean fish has a point balancing for the top tier ruins games
Cap
slender isle
Because they actually have impact on each game played? Steve on his day off from...
Then it’s not a broken gun
eager spire
Because balancing in relation to the average player doesn’t make much sense and leads to things like the ACS being really good, receiving buffs that even the good players have claimed are not necessary.
fluid portal
Then it’s not a broken gun
What?
slender isle
The GVT is broken because in the top 10% of players they’ll instantly kill you
Or the crossbow
eager spire
The GVT isn’t broken.
eager spire
It’s very slow, even most good players don’t use it.
slender isle
The ntw is super op
eager spire
The BSVM is blatantly overtuned, you can’t seriously be arguing this right now.
fluid portal
You’ll end up with the siege effect of having 0 fun left in the game because eve...
But if you balance for the Casual then you'll have the Destiny 2 effect of creating a weapon thats stomps everything else and is extremely easy to use making every other weapon obsolete and also making it so theres less skill involved in doing the harder activities
eager spire
Genuinely nobody uses the M44, not when the Glock exists
fluid portal
You know what there buddy get a better gaming chair L
Bro i know for a fact im better than you at the game pipe down
magic bloom
I use it
eager spire
Even then the buff to 2 shot at 100 meters is a bit ridiculous.
magic bloom
Bro i know for a fact im better than you at the game pipe down
The trolling worked
fluid portal
The trolling worked <:CursedCatPointing:955823115332636752>
Crazy
magic bloom
Yes
slender isle
But if you balance for the Casual then you'll have the Destiny 2 effect of creat...
Or just find a middle ground, if it’s able to be used by everyone easily and is the most used gun, nerf it so it’s not as used (sfar, k30, bsvm)
magic bloom
I’d be fine if they made it like the BF4 railgun and make it a one shot then you have to reload
fluid portal
Or just find a middle ground, if it’s able to be used by everyone easily and is ...
So make it busted and when everyone cries make it unusable?
slender isle
If it’s able to be used super well by the top 1% then it’s not needed to be nerfed because it’s not game breaking (m44, Vcar, railgun)
slender isle
So make it busted and when everyone cries make it unusable?
It’s called a skill cannon for a reason
azure rampart
Me love xp boosters
fluid portal
It’s called a skill cannon for a reason
But you dont need skill to use it
magic bloom
I’d be fine if they made it like the BF4 railgun and make it a one shot then you...
Keep in mind you can’t have full auto or burst fire in this situation
slender isle
But nothing is unusable. K30 is great within 30m (like an smg) and the sfar still 4 hits out to 50m
fluid portal
Its probably the easiest gun in the game to use
slender isle
Its probably the easiest gun in the game to use
The sfar is the easiest gun
Like, there’s no contest
fluid portal
The sfar is the easiest gun
Cap
slender isle
It’s also the best gun in the game
magic bloom
I’m gonna have to agree with vip on that one
eager spire
You’ll end up with the siege effect of having 0 fun left in the game because eve...
Siege is not a very fun game anyway. like you're talking about a game where a single headshot from literally anything kills you, and you can shoot through all of the walls.
slender isle
Siege is not a very fun game anyway. like you're talking about a game where a si...
Yeah… it’s a tactical shooter lmao
fluid portal
Siege is not a very fun game anyway. like you're talking about a game where a si...
Irrelevant, thats subjective
slender isle
It rewards accuracy over anything else
magic bloom
TACTICAL MY ASS
azure rampart
Siege used to be good
magic bloom
space women who has hologram projectors
slender isle
Just cause it’s sci-fi doesn’t mean it’s not tactical
eager spire
Irrelevant, thats subjective
i mean i'm just saying, it's not "not fun" due to balance, it's not fun because the game's just not that fun in the first place.
azure rampart
Tactical in the most losen term imaginable
slender isle
You use tactics as a form of military force in a 5v5 bomb defuse scenario
fluid portal
i mean i'm just saying, it's not "not fun" due to balance, it's not fun because ...
Subjectively. It still has a thriving playerbase of people that love the game
eager spire
I still think balancing in relation to the general playerbases abilities is not a great idea.
slender isle
It’s CSGO with better gunplay and movement
Oh and destruction
Really good destruction
fluid portal
It’s CSGO with better gunplay and movement
No its not lol
magic bloom
Why compare it to CSGO
azure rampart
Csgo is like the worse comparison
eager spire
like i said, this just leads to weird and unnecessary buffs like the 2 shot to 100 meters buff for the M44, or the AC42 buff, or the Glock buff, or hell, even the AR headshot multiplier buff.
slender isle
Why compare it to CSGO
Fps game with an attacking and defending team, with a bomb to defuse, no respawn, high damage weaponry, and a high skill ceiling
eager spire
I can guarantee you nobody was looking at the AR's and said they needed a slightly higher headshot multiplier.
fluid portal
Fps game with an attacking and defending team, with a bomb to defuse, no respawn...
CSGO is an economy bssed shooter, Siege has no economy
Siege has agents, CS doesnt
magic bloom
You can get shot in the heart as some characters in siege and somehow by the sheer force of will stand back up
slender isle
CSGO is an economy bssed shooter, Siege has no economy
Okay, it’s closer to valorant than CSGO then. Put the OW heroes with their set loadouts in and you get siege
fluid portal
Siege has a setup phase, CS doesnt
fluid portal
Okay, it’s closer to valorant than CSGO then. Put the OW heroes with their set l...
ITS STILL NOWHERE CLOSE
slender isle
You can get shot in the heart as some characters in siege and somehow by the she...
Literally rook (that man is crazy)
fluid portal
Bro fish youre literally silver i already know
slender isle
ITS STILL NOWHERE CLOSE
So what? What is siege comparable to in any other game?
slender isle
Bro fish youre literally silver i already know
Plat 2 but sure
We’ll go with silver
fluid portal
So what? What is siege comparable to in any other game?
No. Siege is siege and thats just fine
fluid portal
Plat 2 but sure
Wow plat so menacing
magic bloom
Speaking of siege I need to get the new op
eager spire
i feel like we've gotten a bit off topic here.
magic bloom
i feel like we've gotten a bit off topic here.
Oh we have
slender isle
Speaking of siege I need to get the new op
Isn’t she like IQ and jackal had a baby?
magic bloom
Yeah
still vault
slender isle
Also a cool ass design
azure rampart
I love rainbow six 2042
slender isle
Uh oh
azure rampart
Such a fun game
magic bloom
slender isle
I love battlebow six: modern 2042 2
eager spire
Anyway, like I was saying, I feel like balancing around the upper limits of what players are able to accomplish only makes sense, because not doing that leads to weird choices and unnecessary buffs and nerfs.
still vault
If you are really going to have a silly discussion about ranking in another game please do so in #other-games
edgy oriole
my first game of siege ever i had a dude grill me bc i didnt shoot out a camera that enemy can look through to see me through a crack in a wall. 2042 you dont have that experience
slender isle
Anyway, like I was saying, I feel like balancing around the upper limits of what...
And like I said, it’s bad to balance to the top, and bad to balance for the bottom
fluid portal
If you are really going to have a silly discussion about ranking in another game...
We were talking about the rorsch
azure rampart
I make good use of the tax payers money
slender isle
Balance for the middle and you get the best of both worlds
fluid portal
But got off track
slender isle
So just see what the mid tier player base is able to do and balance
magic bloom
Ok but how would you balance the rorsch vip I actually wanna know
fluid portal
Balance for the middle and you get the best of both worlds
You really think they got an ex COD pro on the dev team because balancing for casuals is healthy?
slender isle
So balance for the average player. Not the worst or best
slender isle
You really think they got an ex COD pro on the dev team because balancing for c...
I don’t actually know what that means
eager spire
Balance for the middle and you get the best of both worlds
Balancing for the middle has gotten us an entire set of unnecessary buffs and nerfs though, like the M44 being buffed to 2 shot at 100 meters doesn't make much sense, neither does the AC42 buff, which even higher tier players have said is unnecessary, same with the Glock buff, the SMG HS multiplier nerf, and the AR HS multiplier buff.
fluid portal
I don’t actually know what that means
There is a call of duty professional player on the Dev team for 2042. If they wanted to balance for casuals they woulda got some random casual to help balance but they got someone who drops 100 per match easily
still vault
Ok but how would you balance the rorsch vip I actually wanna know
It's a railgun, bullets fly straight, since it is not a battlepickup it kinda has to be a bit of a glass canon imo. Yes you get some cool kills but you will never dominate with it.
pearl ridge
The M44 needs to have a massive rof increase
eager spire
There is a CoD professional player on the dev team for 2042
who
azure rampart
No it fucking doesn't lmao
magic bloom
The M44 needs to have a massive rof increase
No
fluid portal
Ok but how would you balance the rorsch vip I actually wanna know
I personally think theres no place for it in the game at all
azure rampart
It's a revolver it already packs a punch
fluid portal
>There is a CoD professional player on the dev team for 2042
who
DRUNKZ3 or smthn
pearl ridge
It’s literally useless in its current state
edgy oriole
faker is on 2042 team 
azure rampart
Fuck
eager spire
The M44 needs to have a massive rof increase
I think it being single action needs to be removed from the game. Why it still has that when the Rex is in the game and doesn't have that is beyond me.
eager spire
DRUNKZ3 or smthn
Ah, right.
slender isle
Balancing for the middle has gotten us an entire set of unnecessary buffs and ne...
I love the ac42 buff, the glock is a weird buff I’ll give you that, m44 is fine now, smg multiplier was due to the k30 (which sucks lmao) and the AR multiplier is fine now. Tbh I’d rather see the smgs go to 1.5 HSM.
pearl ridge
It’s a two shot that is so slow that you’ll be dead before the next shot is ready
magic bloom
I Imagine it’s a double action but the specialist still wants to cock the hammer for some unknown reason
slender isle
There is a call of duty professional player on the Dev team for 2042. If they wa...
I mean, a lot of devs are good at video games, and a lot of devs are bad, and a lot of devs are middle of the field
eager spire
I love the ac42 buff, the glock is a weird buff I’ll give you that, m44 is fine ...
I don't see why the AR multiplier had to be buffed though, nobody really felt like the AR's were underpowered in this game.
fluid portal
I mean, a lot of devs are good at video games, and a lot of devs are bad, and a ...
Sure but they went out of their way to get a PROFESSIONAL to help with BALANCING
pearl ridge
Next generation revolver using technology that was outdated in WW1
eager spire
And even then i don't think that buff really helped a lot of the underpowered AR's that people don't use that much.
magic bloom
The AR buff was really unneeded
slender isle
I don't see why the AR multiplier had to be buffed though, nobody really felt li...
Smgs outclassed ARs at all ranges almost. Now the ARs outclass the smgs at all ranges
eager spire
The SMG nerf was them not being able to balance a specific gun, and instead going "you know what fuck this entire category"
slender isle
The usual dice balancing of extremes
magic bloom
If you couldn’t kill people with old AR’s it’s literally a skill issue
slender isle
Can we all just blame the K30?
eager spire
I'm gonna blame DICE for not being able to properly balance a high RPM SMG.
Because that was the K30's only crime here. Being a high ROF SMG in this game.
slender isle
Type 2a all over again
It’s always been a problem. Any high rpm gun in battlefield just is incredibly hard to balance for dice
eager spire
I still think their rationale for the SMG nerf was insane and whoever said that should not be allowed to work on a multiplayer shooter.
edgy oriole
games should just stop adding the vector tbh
slender isle
Remove it from the universe. Gun shouldn’t exist
edgy oriole
the whole design of it is to not have recoil and be accurate and you cant balance that in games
slender isle
You can just stop adding extended mags lmao
magic bloom
The vector only works when it’s given really low damage
edgy oriole
they could make it like real life and have it do misfire
magic bloom
That would just piss people off
There’s a reason even a lot of tactical games don’t have guns malfunction
eager spire
slender isle
There’s a reason even a lot of tactical games don’t have guns malfunction
Besides fucking tarkov
magic bloom
Besides fucking tarkov
Tarkov is a different animal
eager spire
Like, can we all agree that this statement is insane in relation to a PVP FPS game?
magic bloom
Yeah
slender isle
Like, can we all agree that this statement is insane in relation to a PVP FPS ga...
They could’ve just ruined the accuracy in all the smgs instead
slender isle
Tarkov is a different animal
Tarkov is insane though. That is possibly the best balanced game I’ve seen in a while
edgy oriole
best balance wtf
slender isle
Everything murders you
Hey, I can run a lil small pistol and wipe a lobby with a couple well placed shots
eager spire
I feel like anything in an FPS game should reward accuracy. Weither or not a gun should reward accuracy is not something for the devs to decide.
onyx zephyr
my game always opens in a window no matter what I do and when I join games only half of the game loads leading to the whole lobby being a mess. Any advice?
slender isle
my game always opens in a window no matter what I do and when I join games only ...
I’d say a reinstall is in order
edgy oriole
whats your specs
magic bloom
I mean just be glad this games vector has some kind of recoil
slender isle
Is it installed on an SSD as well?
edgy oriole
when the game opens window for me its bc it tries to run in 4k even tho i have 2k monitor
pearl ridge
Okay, so the m44 is capable of both double action and single action operation.
onyx zephyr
whats your specs
rtx 3060ti, ryzen 5 3600 with 32GB ram. Idk why after I reinstall it always breaks after like 2 weeks
onyx zephyr
Is it installed on an SSD as well?
yep
magic bloom
Okay, so the m44 is capable of both double action and single action operation.
Yes we imagined this
pearl ridge
In typical DICE fashion, they chose the objectively worse option.
magic bloom
To play devils advocate There is a reason why single action exists though
eager spire
Okay, so the m44 is capable of both double action and single action operation.
I mean, revolvers in BF being double action isn't new, but is typically associated with a ridiculous delay between clicking to fire and you actually shooting.
There was a reason that shit got removed in BF4.
nobody liked it.
magic bloom
I mean it makes sense since you have to rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer all in one trigger pull
Trigger feels like it weighs 12 pounds on some revolvers
eager spire
I mean it makes sense since you have to rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer ...
yeah but here's the thing: I don't care, it's hard enough to quickly aim for the head with revolvers in any range where that would actually be effective
so there shouldn't be a delay
magic bloom
yeah but here's the thing: I don't care, it's hard enough to quickly aim for the...
Oh don’t get me wrong I don’t like single action I’m just saying
pearl ridge
I don’t need a delay of any kind, I need this gun to actually be usable outside of memeing.
magic bloom
Plus let’s be honest here in a real war your not cocking the hammer on a double action
eager spire
what would be done in a real war is irrelevant.
azure rampart
I use it regularly and it's ok fym memeing
Oh it's bad for me therefore everyone who uses it is memeing
pearl ridge
And I’m a regular GVT user, I know what it means to only have six rounds
pearl ridge
I’m saying that it’s a pistol that is fucking useless as a pistol.
eager spire
Revolvers have been balanced pretty well in the past, even without the slow hammer cocking animation 2042 has. It just seems incredibly unnecessary.
azure rampart
It's not useless to me
pearl ridge
I don’t have time to fuck around picking my shots in a firefight
magic bloom
Then just use another pistol I know that’s not the solution but it’s probably all your gonna get unless dice wants to make it better
eager spire
Like, why would you use the M44 over something like the MP28, or the Glock?
azure rampart
Damage
eager spire
Glock can oneburst to the head.
azure rampart
Do I care
pearl ridge
Couple of bursts and they dead by the time you click the hammer
magic bloom
Then there’s the PF51 the mini P90 pocket smg
eager spire
You did say damage.
Counterpoint.
Like, the glock is faster, can oneburst to the head, and is generally easier to aim and quickly react to targets with.
pearl ridge
Oh sure it hurts at range, but you know what does that better? The rifle that you always have.
azure rampart
What if no ammo?
What if the main weapon you are using isn't suited for that range?
pearl ridge
For gods sake I’m already mastery 3 with the M1911
azure rampart
What does that have to do with anything
eager spire
AR's are suited for most ranges to be honest, and if you're using SMG's you're already committed to the close range meme.
pearl ridge
It’s a low capacity sidearm that doesn’t suck
magic bloom
You could’ve literally gotten 1911 mastery against bots that’s irrelevant
eager spire
Hell, even the M44 doesn't seem suited for pistol range anyway
azure rampart
So what
eager spire
because it's so slow
azure rampart
I don't give a shit you are good at the 1911 we aren't discussing that weapon
eager spire
it gets outclassed by every other weapon in it's category for it's intended range.
Gravina, chill your tits please.
pearl ridge
You could put in the Webley VI straight out of BF1 and it’d outperform the m44
magic bloom
I mean if you wanna use a revolver just use the Rex
pearl ridge
Without any stat changes
azure rampart
(I don't have the rex yet)
eager spire
yeah even the Rex is a better option
azure rampart
Nor do I like it compared to battlefield 3
eager spire
because it doesn't have that cocking animation.
pearl ridge
To get the rex i need to suffer through the m44…
azure rampart
Sounds like shit
azure rampart
It's sounds so weak it's not even funny
pearl ridge
I fucking hate fighting bots
azure rampart
You hate everything
eager spire
it's still a better option than the M44 in terms of being a pistol you pull out in close quarters. Like you'd typically need to do with pistols.
pearl ridge
They’re genuinely stupid to the point that it’s not funny. So stupid that it loops back around to being dangerous
pearl ridge
Hell, they’re not even good for sniper practice because they move in the jankiest way possible.
azure rampart
I'm glad to see tano hasn't changed since battlefield 5
pearl ridge
They can’t move and shoot, so they’re always stop-start
broken wren
I quite enjoy this game tbh.
I like the large scale battles in large scale maps.
magic bloom
Snipers got out classed by the rorsch and probably will be forever unless some major changes are done
arctic grove
I quite enjoy this game tbh.
I like the large scale battles in large scale maps...
It's decent
azure rampart
I'm having good fun
magic bloom
I do quite enjoy using helicopters to farm people
eager spire
Snipers got out classed by the rorsch and probably will be forever unless some m...
Like I said, I probably wouldn't have added it to the game like this.
azure rampart
Ok now that's just a skill issue 💀
pearl ridge
It’s a big cumbersome rifle that is outclassed in every single metric by the railgun
magic bloom
Only thing I’d change about the NTW is give it like 2 more damage points to like the hover craft and latv
eager spire
To be frank i wouldn't have put in the NTW either.
pearl ridge
And it doesn’t even do jack to light vehicles, let alone anything armoured
pearl ridge
But the railgun is
eager spire
It's a .50??????
actually 20mm
azure rampart
Either way it's not a gun to shoot vehicles effectively
eager spire
it's a big boy and it's implied through how slow it is
pearl ridge
It’s too slow for infantry and too weak for vehicles. There’s literally no reason to use it
azure rampart
It's called ntw 50 to begin with
magic bloom
The real life one is chambered In 20 that I know
But the mags look to small to be 20 in the game
eager spire
it's based on the NTW-20. I'm assuming it's still chambered in that because if that's not the case i'm not sure why it needs to be so slow.
azure rampart
I mean 50 cal is quite a bullet
magic bloom
If it was chambered in 20 it should be destroying the latv and hovercrafts engine in one shot
eager spire
I mean 50 cal is quite a bullet
yeah but it's not damaging tanks in 2042, 50 cal isn't even damaging tanks in 2022.
pine roost
Even the jet’s 25s don’t kill it in one shot
pearl ridge
The jet’s 25mm doesn’t kill anything
broken wren
And I absolutely love the weapon customization options while in the game.
pine roost
Well it’s pretty good against infantry, light vehicles and other aircraft
eager spire
And I absolutely love the weapon customization options while in the game.
eh, it makes for severe balancing problems.
i feel like you misread what i said
azure rampart
I mean the anti tank rounds probably are in 20 but the mag doesn't change
magic bloom
Let me read again
pearl ridge
It doesn’t do enough damage to aircraft and it has zero splash damage against infantry
eager spire
thanks
pine roost
Does enough damage to aircraft to kill in one strafe
pearl ridge
Also, my god jet handling sucks in this game.
pine roost
And against infantry the drift is what makes it hardest to use. If the physics were tighter it would be far more effective
pearl ridge
It’s so floaty
magic bloom
Tano this isn’t me trying to be a dick but do you complain about everything In this game
azure rampart
Yes
pearl ridge
Yes, because apparently you people accept far too much.
magic bloom
Fair at least your honest
eager spire
To be fair, there is quite a bit to complain about with this game. I don't know why this is surprising.
azure rampart
He complained that the Sherman in bfv was a shit tank against the tiger whilst simultaneously not fighting it properly
pearl ridge
Yeah sure I’ll just teleport behind the tiger
azure rampart
Shoot at the tracks
eager spire
I don't understand how people say that BFV has the best gunplay of modern BF games. Spread to Recoil was a terrible concept.
pearl ridge
Friendly reminder that the Tiger can two-shot shermans
azure rampart
With heat rounds lol
pearl ridge
And it has this funny thing called a turret that can turn around
pearl ridge
I played the Tiger enough to know that thing’s HEAT was OP
azure rampart
It's like you are doing all of this on purpose
pearl ridge
It killed literally anything
undone basin
Hello, everyone, today France must win
eager spire
hi.
magic bloom
Hi
pearl ridge
I preferred the Panzer IV because it was actually balanced.
magic bloom
pearl ridge
And looked nicer.
magic bloom
I actually never played battlefield 5
pearl ridge
It wouldn’t be so much of a problem if the Americans had anything heavier
And weren’t on the sole armour focused map
eager spire
BFV seems like it would've been an interesting game but they fucked up the gunplay post launch for no reason
azure rampart
Or you shot where you had to
undone basin
I actually never played battlefield 5
You should play. He's fun.
pearl ridge
Shooting at tracks to magically do massive hull damage is both difficult and counterintuitive
eager spire
like even BF1 did gunplay properly, for the most part.
undone basin
BFV seems like it would've been an interesting game but they fucked up the gunpl...
No, I think Battlefield 5 is more competitive
azure rampart
The tiger doesn't have any way to cover the tracks
pearl ridge
BF1 gunplay my beloved
eager spire
Not counting the lack of bullet tracers in first person and no test range.
eager spire
No, I think Battlefield 5 is more competitive
I firmly disagree
magic bloom
Yes but did bf5 have the martini henry
pearl ridge
BFV didn’t have the 1895
eager spire
because I don't think spread to recoil conversion is a mechanic that rewards skill or benefits the gunplay at all even slightly.
azure rampart
Sweet spot is a bad mechanic and I will die on this hill
eager spire
i'll agree with that.
pearl ridge
Nah, it actually gave each rifle a niche.
upbeat sand
i hate sweet spots
magic bloom
Seems dumb
upbeat sand
it encourages bodyshots too much
undone basin
i'll agree with that.
Battlefield Five is like a mixture of Battlefield One and CSGO
eager spire
"oh but it makes snipers have to keep their distance and play more like snipers" i don't care it's not like it's easy to quickly react to someone running up in my close range with a bolt action and hit them
azure rampart
Doesn't reward raw aim
pearl ridge
It encourages giving a shit about positioning
pine roost
It’s just ‘oh, ok, so that was a one shot. Didn’t mean for that to happen’
arctic grove
Battlefield Five is like a mixture of Battlefield One and CSGO
CSGO? 🤔
eager spire
It’s just ‘oh, ok, so that was a one shot. Didn’t mean for that to happen’
"oh ok that was a oneshot i guess thanks for that"
eager spire
Battlefield Five is like a mixture of Battlefield One and CSGO
I disagree.
pine roost
Where did csgo come from
azure rampart
Why yes free kills I Bart deserve for not aiming where I should have to instakill
pearl ridge
The SMLE had a thirty metre sweet spot, perfect for iron sights
undone basin
It doesn't have a battlefield atmosphere, but it's very competitive
pearl ridge
As if I wasn’t headshotting anyway
undone basin
How is BFV similar to CSGO? explain
I mean, compared to Battlefield 1 and 2042
pearl ridge
It made bolt actions actually useful in battle rather than hiding up the back
eager spire
Like i said. I don't care that it's supposed to make me play further back, it's not like it's easy to quickly react to someone running up in my close range and hit them before they hit me
Especially when trying to take out my pistol in that situation would just get me killed
upbeat sand
i am a anti sniper person
what my ideal sniper for my own self belifs is just a sniper that does 20 damage on body but then if you hit the head theres a X5 headshot multiplier making it instant
i am very biasd against snipers
eager spire
I think allowing one shots to the body at close range is justified
upbeat sand
i just dont like people who dont go for the head
magic bloom
I mean it makes sense it’s so much easier to hit the body
eager spire
we're not talking about shotguns where doing that is very easy.
undone basin
And the 2042 is more game
pine roost
I don’t even mind it being headshot only for a one shot kill up close
eager spire
I mean it makes sense it’s so much easier to hit the body
Again, it's not like it's easy to quickly react to someone running up to you and hit them with your bolt.
undone basin
pearl ridge
I just want them to be useful at ranges closer than three hundred metres
eager spire
I'm fine with close range bodyshots being rewarded. Like i said, that's not easy to do consistently.
especially considering how strong the Assault class is.
pearl ridge
Damn, sniper rifles suck in 2042. So awkward and slow.
arctic grove
Damn, sniper rifles suck in 2042. So awkward and slow.
Agreed
pearl ridge
And literally everyone is effective at long range
pine roost
Just run one with a low mag scope or even a red dot
pearl ridge
So you’re dead as soon as they see you
upbeat sand
Damn, sniper rifles suck in 2042. So awkward and slow.
i find them fine
got 20-30 kills with mostly headshots
upbeat sand
1 shotting weapons i feel like should never be on the body
eager spire
I don't think it would've been that bad if close range body shots were only a thing on Infantry/non-scoped Bolts in BF1. Because at that range you're having to compete with Assault players, Autoloading/Federov medics, Support players, people with machineguns.
upbeat sand
except the ghost maker
eager spire
Like, considering the strength full auto weapons had in BF1 i feel like this would be justified.
welp that's this channel dead i think
pearl ridge
Auto weapons in BF1 were at least limited by range, or bipods.
Though the 1917 never should’ve had a scope.
Or been a ‘lmg’ given that the damn thing was as big as the Vickers.
Stealth choppers need to have some kind of cooldown
The fact that Stingers can’t lock onto them implies that they’re retaining their heat
Which means they they shouldn’t be able to do it indefinitely
I shouldn’t have to bring out Rao just to get a shot off on them.
slim hound
hey, you know when you use the Q menu to say soemthing? like "need ammo"
does everyone on the team hear that? or do they just see the text? does everyone in your vicinity hear it? does your squad hear it?
pearl ridge
You get a blinking icon
But nobody ever carries ammo because they don’t expect to survive long enough to run out…
eager spire
Auto weapons in BF1 were at least limited by range, or bipods.
yeah but still, considering they're mostly effective in close range, i feel like giving infantry bolts the ability to one shot in close quarters would be justified.
because like i said, it's not like it's easy to quickly react to people running up in your close range and hit them with a bolt.
pearl ridge
Infantry rifles were the epitome of risk and reward.
And they were never unbalanced outside of that time the Martini Henry could one-shot anything within fifty metres
eager spire
eh i feel like they were a bit weak, infantry bolts always seemed like a gimmick.
The Martini Henry is frankly ridiculous, i hate that it exists.
pearl ridge
Letting scouts get closer also made them use their flares more
pine roost
Any kind of semi auto, close range weapon that oneshot headshots is my jam
eager spire
implying i don't use my flares literally all of the time
woven acorn
they need to bring bc2 vietnam to portal asap
pine roost
Like that gun in cod I was trying out yesterday
woven acorn
Any kind of semi auto, close range weapon that oneshot headshots is my jam
if only i could land headshots
pearl ridge
They need to put in weapons older than the damn AR-15
Which is like half the game’s inventory at this point.
vital flare
i just dont like people who dont go for the head
right? its like they don't consider the pleasure in doing that 
eager spire
right? its like they don't consider the pleasure in doing that <:mh:996529336926...
I mean I realize that it's satisfying to do so, but i also recognize that it is not reasonable to try doing that when someone is running up in your close range with a bolt action.
pearl ridge
God, I hate modern weapon design. You get one decent rifle and suddenly everyone forgets how to build anything else.
eager spire
it works though.
pearl ridge
I like BF1’s weapons precisely because they’re so weird and janky
pearl ridge
Except that.
eager spire
Like, Assault already had one SMG with over 50 rounds in a mag.
It does not need two.
and the Hellriegel being in the game was already barely justifiable.
pearl ridge
The 08 was actually pretty good when it first came out.
Because it was literally a pocket maxim.
Slow and chattery.
eager spire
i mean this is the same DICE that nerfed sliding multiple times
pearl ridge
Unnerfed sliding gets you Bfv.
eager spire
Good
pine roost
I don’t even understand what an smg is supposed to be when it has that mag size
eager spire
BFV's player movement was way better.
pearl ridge
Except for the frictionless sliding up stairs without affecting aim at all.
pine roost
So smg is submachine gun, lmg is what, large machine gun?
So is a machine gun just an assault rifle?
eager spire
But even then, the first sliding nerf in BF1 was justified. Quick slide once, you get penalized in the form of a slowdown if you try to do it more than once at a time.
pearl ridge
Light, for a certain definition
eager spire
They should've just left it there.
pearl ridge
Submachine guns are limited to pistol rounds.
eager spire
Except for the frictionless sliding up stairs without affecting aim at all.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pearl ridge
Light machine guns are rifle size, though in WW1 they were only called light because they could be carried by one man.
eager spire
it added a skill gap to the game. plus at least sliding was useful in BFV. I've literally talked to people that didn't know sliding was a thing in BF1 cause it was so useless.
pine roost
So what’s a machine gun then?
eager spire
crew served machineguns probably
pine roost
So like, stationary guns?
pine roost
Don’t get why they would need to be called sub machine guns if they don’t have a machine gun equivalent
Like the p90 is considered an smg, but I’ve not seen a big boi variant of it
pearl ridge
There’s a couple of LMGs in BF4 that just use 5.56 in regular magazines. Literally just fat ARs.
eager spire
i donno, i guess they just called them that because they didn't have anything else to call them, and they needed to be differentiated from the Medic's rifles.
pearl ridge
Don’t know why they’re in the game
eager spire
of which there are some that are full auto
pine roost
So lmg makes sense I guess, just don’t get why they’d need to be called sub :/
pearl ridge
Way I see it, it’s not a real MG if it isn’t 7.62 or above.
Or belt fed because the 249 exists.
pine roost
I mean they could have called them a sub assault rifle I guess
pearl ridge
You have stuff like the L86, which is just an L85 with a longer barrel and a bipod of dubious use.
pearl ridge
And the same magazines.
5.56 has no purpose in a machine gun in quantities less than 200.
At that point you should just be using a regular rifle.
pine roost
‘You like the M5?’
‘Which one do you mean? The tank, jet, bazooka, jeep, the gun, the lunchbox, the tactical knife, my post code, the motorway or the battleships tile?’
eager spire
but yeah i don't think giving infantry bolts the ability to one shot in close quarters in BF1 would've been that big of a deal.
pearl ridge
It really wasn’t, because Infantry rifles just weren’t that popular.
Because they actually needed aim
While also putting yourself in harms way
eager spire
They weren't that useful because why use irons when you can just use a marksman or sniper variant with a scope so you can actually see what you're shooting at?
unless you're just holding angles.
pearl ridge
The main advantage was being able to cycle while keeping sighted.
A lot faster.
Seems that all rifles do that in 2042 now.
With or without scopes.
Hell, you can even reload while scoped.
eager spire
The main advantage was being able to cycle while keeping sighted.
that doesn't really seem like an advantage
because at the ranges you're typically expected to use bolts at, speed is not a huge determining factor
slender isle
It really wasn’t, because Infantry rifles just weren’t that popular.
Infantry bolts were cracked out idk what you mean
The G98 infantry was the best thing to come out of the game
pearl ridge
They weren’t that common though.
Ugh, I hate how so many optics darken your view
What good’s a red dot sight if I can’t even see anything through it
eager spire
sights are not supposed to do that
just as a sidenote
if a red dot sight does that, it's not a good red dot sight.
slate meadow
did they fix the aiming after revive yet?
eager spire
probably not
slate meadow
i dont understand what they would have changed with the update that would suddenly force people to look up or down after revive
seems like its a aim assist function that is somehow effecting kb&m players
prime ember
its been 2 days and i cant find a way to fix the controller after moving my game on a ssd
slate meadow
its been 2 days and i cant find a way to fix the controller after moving my game...
lol you still have that issue xD
prime ember
the game doesnt take input from it
slate meadow
tbh i had to do a complete reinstall of windows for my game to even launch
prime ember
lol you still have that issue xD
yeah i am starting to learn keyboard and mouse
chilly jacinth
safe to say you fucked something up after moving the game
prime ember
safe to say you fucked something up after moving the game
i reinstalled the game also
slate meadow
yeah i am starting to learn keyboard and mouse
wait your on pc wtf you doing playing on controller xD
still vault
To be fair, the issue makes no sense. Moving the game to any other drive should have no effect on if a controller works or not. Sounds like a weird local issue on your end.
slate meadow
adelin i would download unistaller and make sure everything to do with ea launcher and bf2042 is completely unistalled
prime ember
wait your on pc wtf you doing playing on controller xD
i have been a controller player since 4 years old
slate meadow
i have been a controller player since 4 years old
time to grow up then 😉
prime ember
time to grow up then 😉
yeah...
prime ember
time to grow up then 😉
for now i am doing 10 kills / 20+ deaths 💀
slate meadow
yeah not having aim assists sucks right 😛
prime ember
i find easier to aim qt long distances
way more precise
it also happens to have good matches , like 30 kills and 15 deaths , but is rare for the moment
pine roost
Speaking of, has there been any further mention of the recoil bug?
eager spire
Speaking of, has there been any further mention of the recoil bug?
nope
slate meadow
Let's get it right the recoil bug and netcode issues will never get fixed in this game
It would cost them way to much time and money for a game that isn't turning over much profit
prime ember
Let's get it right the recoil bug and netcode issues will never get fixed in thi...
i dont even see the recoil bug 💀
slate meadow
Well compared to games like apex and fifa
still vault
there's a recoil bug?
prime ember
i dont even see the recoil bug 💀
as this is the first game i am trully playing with a mouse 💀
slate meadow
Yeah it's to do with recoil sort of adding up and then being added all together
There is afew really good videos on YouTube demonstrating it and what they think the issue is
pine roost
Yeah so when you shoot without countering any movement, letting go returns it to that position, that’s how it’s always worked. But for some reason that cached movement will activate as soon as you make any kind of downwards motion
It could be one of the main reasons as to why mouse input has felt so inconsistent all this time, and now we know what is causing it, there’s a chance it could be made even better
The latest patch did make significant improvements to mouse input which was great to see
I did do some testing and recorded a video of it in fact
dire quest
Are gamers smart?
prime ember
bruh , simply none , idk
dire quest
This is in a child's learning book lol
prime ember
This is in a child's learning book lol
enough to depass my iq capacity
upbeat sand
rhip, rlane, roat, rlane, rrain, rar
Big Bren
still vault
pretty easy rook in my ryes
upbeat sand
dire quest
The answer starts with an r tho lol
upbeat sand
dire quest
The answer is so half-assed too lmao
arctic grove
If R is the word then it also starts with and IS R. The answer is clearly R
dire quest
It's rowboat even though it clearly has a sail
upbeat sand
It's rowboat even though it clearly has a sail
Wow
Creators of the book:
It's pronounced "J"if
What?
.g(j)if like the peanut butter the creator said so
dire quest
My name's geff
arctic grove
Not to dampen this adorable childhood memory / trauma
2042?
🤣 what dimension of 2042 have I walked into
dire quest
To be fair 2042 only 20 or 19 years from now
arctic grove
also Hi GEFF
dire quest
Even tom Brady in 2042
still vault
perhaps we are meant to spot the missing vehicles from 2042
dire quest
Tom Brady specialist when?
upbeat sand
Even tom Brady in 2042
What a time to be alive
PLAY IT NOW ON THE ALL NEW XBOX
eager spire
It's pronounced "J"if
What?
.g(j)if like the peanut butter the creator said so
i recognize that the creator said that but at the same time that's stupid so i'm not gonna acknowledge it.
what's he gonna do about it
upbeat sand
i recognize that the creator said that but at the same time that's stupid so i'm...
The G sounds better than J anyway