battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

just patience

[eager spire]

it's less reducing recoil and more reducing spread that's important in Battlefield.

recoil in BF games is generally not that high.

[fiery shoal]

i just reduce HREC and learn to pull down to have consistent shots

[scenic frost]

i actually agree with that

[arctic grove]

What do u pull down?

[fiery shoal]

my mouse?

[arctic grove]

That’s recoil

[fiery shoal]

yes...

[stiff pollen]

Not to mention if you plug in a controller you get 20% less recoil compared to MNK

[eager spire]

30%

it's 30%

[stiff pollen]

Really?!

[scenic frost]

LOL

[stiff pollen]

SHIT

[scenic frost]

That's fucked up

[stiff pollen]

[fiery shoal]

its necessary to compete wth mnk

unless you want atrocious levels of AA that are basically soft hacks

[scenic frost]

Fair enough

but 30 seems absurd

[scenic frost]

MW2 xD

[quiet shell]

Except in Battlefield 4 before the recoil overhaul. All the guns kicked like coked up mules

[arctic grove]

that’s perfect

[scenic frost]

no

its not

[fiery shoal]

idk what the values are, but i know that i never complain about 2042 controller players

[arctic grove]

give me recoil or give me death

[scenic frost]

because they dont have the AA that MW2 has

[eager spire]

well there was a reason DICE overhauled recoil and removed visual recoil in BF4.

[scenic frost]

which is basically legal aimbots

[eager spire]

Because nobody liked that shit

[fiery shoal]

idk if its balanced, but im just glad 2042 doesnt outright favor controller players like fortnite, cod, or infinite

[scenic frost]

this, this so much

[arctic grove]

LMG should be unusable walking and recoil should take your whole mouse pad in hand movement

[quiet shell]

Yeah I don't think anyone misses Battlefield 4's recoil

[arctic grove]

I do

[eager spire]

hey look at this chart

This is accuracy percentages for Halo Infinite.

[arctic grove]

BF 4 was competitive prime

now it’s all fun and casual

[scenic frost]

Good

[arctic grove]

no u

[ripe hedge]

Oh no they are onto me

[scenic frost]

If i wanted to play a competitive shooter i would go to sweat my ass and bore myself to death to CSGO

[eager spire]

YOU.

[arctic grove]

[crude matrix]

please I beg someone help me out
the past 3 days I havent been able to play because my ping is 200+ constantly, no other game is like this
nobody on forums seems to have the same problem as me, im hardstuck on finding a solution

im on pc

[eager spire]

they've already added it

this chart is the reason they added it.

it's ridiculous.

[scenic frost]

i have no idea, but maybe your net card is fucked?

[quiet shell]

No Kbm is straight up getting aim assist

[eager spire]

i've seen people getting literally 75% accuracy on KBM due to that.

[crude matrix]

net card?

[scenic frost]

whatever controls your internet

does it happen in more games?

[quiet shell]

OI!
Give the ACR 30 rounds plz n thanc

[scenic frost]

maybe its a thing of your router, idk

[crude matrix]

no
all my other games are ~10 ping

its just 2042

[scenic frost]

Thats fucking weird

server issue?

idk, tbf

[stiff pollen]

Infinite doesn’t favor controller players anymore

[dense hedge]

i hope it does

[stiff pollen]

It’s actually balanced now that they added AA to mouse

[dense hedge]

wtf

ass

[eager spire]

well actually no

[stiff pollen]

It’s actually hilarious

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[eager spire]

it's just favoring KBM now because aim assist on mouse is literally insane and there's a reason why nobody who knows what they're doing does that.

[dense hedge]

devs should always favor controllers and consoles in any crossplay game

[crude matrix]

now why in the fuck

[quiet shell]

I LITERALLY own the magazine it uses and I can tell you with a shadow of a DOUBT that magazine holds 30 rounds

[eager spire]

you should stop talking.

[dense hedge]

no i shouldnt

[crude matrix]

yes you should

[eager spire]

yes you should actually. you don't know what you're talking about.

[dense hedge]

thats the price pc players should pay if they dont want their game to die within 4 months

[stiff pollen]

It’s activated for everyone with no way to turn it off

[dense hedge]

also fortnite does not favor controllers

[stiff pollen]

The vast majority of KBM players enjoy it too so no issue honestly

[tough folio]

i didnt think halo did it intentionally, it would just be way harder to hit on kbm. tbh it kinda feels wonky to even shoot on infinite. i dont think i could hit a shot regardless without aimassist

[dapper river]

this was before halo infinite players got a little aim assist on mouse and keyboard
the tides have shifted

[eager spire]

i mean it's genuinely misrepresenting your aim. if you get a high accuracy rating on Infinite now, it's not because you were doing really well or you were aiming well, the game was literally doing it for you.

[stiff pollen]

343 did admit they accidentally gave MNK rotational aim assist

[quiet shell]

Arma 3's been alive and well for almost 10 years

[stiff pollen]

So it should just be AA and not RAA

[eager spire]

yes i know like i said this chart was the reason that happened

[dapper river]

and I'm all for it

[crude matrix]

I sure hope not
I use a mouse because I can control my movements with millimeter precision , fuck an ai controlling my players aim

[dense hedge]

arma 3 is a pc game

[dapper river]

you don't even play Infinite, bruh nobody plays infinite 💀

[quiet shell]

Yes

[dense hedge]

it would have a significantly larger player base if it was crossplay

[quiet shell]

That's my point

[eager spire]

I think it's ridiculous. Rather than do the sane thing and just tone down AA on controller, they just add AA to KBM and say that's fine.

Now there are KBM players getting fucking 75% accuracy in game like it's no big deal

[dense hedge]

no, i think mothe you keep dying to controller players in warzone

[dapper river]

it is fine, controller users get what's coming to em

[dense hedge]

not how it works

[quiet shell]

I don't even play that dumpster fire lemme know when it stops crashing

[dense hedge]

controller playerbase is larger than mnk playerbase

[dapper river]

what does the N stand for

[eager spire]

okay sure

[dense hedge]

mouse n keyboard

[crude matrix]

infinite? as in Infinite warfare?? wtf

[quiet shell]

Not true, Asia has a far larger pc player base than console

[tough folio]

thats what i was thinking, aim assists works well on sticks, but kbm? wouldnt it feel weird or janky for the game to slow down your aim while your naturally flicking or looking around with the natural movement or your arm, or mucsle memory?

[dense hedge]

nope lol

[eager spire]

larger playerbase doesn't justify the game aiming for you.

[dense hedge]

its mobile > consoles > pcs

[dapper river]

It does not :)

[eager spire]

i'm sorry, it doesn't. that's just how it is, i don't make the rules.

[dapper river]

source: I've used a Xim before I lost it

[dense hedge]

it does, they are the biggest crowd, they need their retention

[crude matrix]

I beg to differ

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/dooly-gif-19284362

[tough folio]

should be ashamed lmao, if i ever caught you on siege

[eager spire]

"They need their retention" if they're the largest crowd, then wouldn't it matter less if some of them stopped playing?

[scenic frost]

sometimes listening to the majority isn't the good/correct/healthy thing to do

[dapper river]

nah I never played siege ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense hedge]

it would matter lol

[crude matrix]

what's the xim for then, noob?

[tough folio]

good

[eager spire]

Frankly, if a controller player stopped playing the game because they couldn't aim even with the game helping them, then that's their loss. Bye.

[dense hedge]

do you not now how mtx dumping works

[scenic frost]

yes

exactly

[dapper river]

I played a lot of Battlefield 1 and Halo 5 with it 😎

[dense hedge]

frankly, if a good controller stops playing because they couldnt aim, then the casual playerbase would have quit way before them

[eager spire]

I don't give a fuck about MTX dumping, i'm speaking purely from a balance perspective.

[dense hedge]

you cant balance it

[crude matrix]

respect

[eager spire]

If a "good" controller player stopped playing cause the game didn't have strong aim assist, like i said before, their loss. Bye.

[dense hedge]

mouse n keyboard & controllers were never meant to come face to face

what are you trying to say i dont really understand

[fiery shoal]

if im reading this correctly it does back the idea that controller AA is too good?

[dense hedge]

if someone stopped playing its cause the game doesnt have strong aim assist like i said before their lose bye?

[tough folio]

lol it would be the companies lost since they cant get players or funding, and then it would be your loss if you cant find matches lol, these things do matter

[fiery shoal]

is that a general way to explain the recoil mechanics?

[dense hedge]

^^

[eager spire]

yes. 50th percentile of controller gets the same accuracy as the Top 100 KBM players

[fiery shoal]

ridiculous

[dense hedge]

where the hell r u even pulling that data from lo

[azure rampart]

Boy oh boy aim assist discussion

[fiery shoal]

infinite just had strong AA all around

stick and snap is absurd

[azure rampart]

Unfortunately for you I gamed

[dense hedge]

my take on aim assist
if you are a mnk player and think its unfair then cry all you want, its the price to keep the game alive for you

[eager spire]

Here's my take. Input based matchmaking and KBM support on consoles should be mandatory on all PVP crossplay titles.

[azure rampart]

Aim assist is ok when it's not literal aimbot

[tough folio]

halo has always had strong magnetism and aim assist. i refuse to believe that pc players are losing to people on sticks in other games tho, unless the aim was litterally locking on to heads. that would be funny

[fiery shoal]

its not a matter of THINKING its unfair, its a matter of if it is actually unfair...

[eager spire]

Co-op, whatever. Doesn't matter.

PVP, it does matter.

[scenic frost]

yup

[dense hedge]

yeah doesnt matter nyphon

[scenic frost]

You play the game witch crutches

[fiery shoal]

100% matters, especially for competitive titles

[eager spire]

It matters for any PVP title.

[dense hedge]

then maybe turn crossplay off?

[scenic frost]

You can plug a controller into a pc

It doesn't matter

[fiery shoal]

i KNOW my aim is likely in the top 10% of other mouse players, but the moment i play vs controller players im suddenly getting challenged by casual controller players JUST because aim assist is that strong? thats just ridiculous

[dense hedge]

not really our fault if the developers shoved you in our room just to keep you happy your room isnt empty

[arctic grove]

In conclusion, death to crossplay /j

[eager spire]

Like i said. input based matchmaking should be mandatory.

[fiery shoal]

if its an option i do

[dense hedge]

we didnt ask for pc players at all, we only asked for console platform

it is on some of the game sbut you wont find any lobbies lol

[fiery shoal]

and we didnt ask to play vs soft hacks in controller players either...

[dense hedge]

blame the devs

[tough folio]

you didnt ask you mean?

[eager spire]

I am blaming the devs.

[fiery shoal]

ironically pc games tend to have longer player retentions

[scenic frost]

Do you understand that you can bitch all you want, but that numbers do not lie? Its not an empiric discussion. The data is THERE.

[dense hedge]

but also thank crossplay because its the only reason why your servers are active in the first place

[scenic frost]

What are you even saying

[dense hedge]

warzone the biggest game of 2020 would be a ghost town if it didnt have ps4/xbox players

[scenic frost]

console players play a game for like 6 months then jump to the next shooter

[dense hedge]

really cause the majority of any crossplay players are playstation rn

[tough folio]

prob because the niche communities actually enjoy playing the game then hopping on for 5 minutes of madden

[teal widget]

can someone recommend a gun for my play style? I do behind enemy lines stuff and usually have to deal with vehicles

[stiff pollen]

I LOVE cross play in BF2042 cause controller players are all really bad at this game

[drowsy shuttle]

Breakthrough 128 players... welcome back, old friend... it's been too long

[stiff pollen]

[azure rampart]

Csgo is pc exclusive and yet one of the most played games to date

[arctic grove]

I can’t help it man

Settings are so fucky

[stiff pollen]

I think PC bf2042 may only have like 20k players

[dense hedge]

imagine how bigger it wouldve been if it had crossplay too

csgo is only an example of few

[azure rampart]

It wouldn't

[scenic frost]

But those 20k players will keep coming back to the game instead of dropping it

[dense hedge]

all call of duties die on pc within 4 months

[fiery shoal]

csgo on ps3 was horrible... no one played it

[dense hedge]

thats the biggest franchise ever

[scenic frost]

same thing as cods, wtf are you even saying

[dense hedge]

nope try playing bo4

[drowsy shuttle]

Cod 2 > CS 1.6 > everything else

[dense hedge]

bo4 was dead in 2019 for pcs

[stiff pollen]

If activision straight up added AA to MNK I wouldn’t be opposed

[azure rampart]

Because call of duty is more popular to younger audiences that can't afford a 1.6k fuck off pc

[stiff pollen]

[spiral folio]

I dont run BF through steam so it wont count people who dont use stram

[fiery shoal]

id throw up in my mouth

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, Halo did it

[fiery shoal]

bullet magnetism should be the only form of AA on mnk

(destiny 2 already has it)

[dense hedge]

what evej is bullet magnetism

?

[eager spire]

To be frank, i feel like adding AA to KBM is an insult.

[dense hedge]

like the actual magnet

[scenic frost]

Balance the scale a bit, yeah

[ripe hedge]

I have a weird recommendation then. Try the PKP with AP ammo

[fiery shoal]

your bullets will curve if you are shooting close enough to the target

[azure rampart]

Just play team fortress 2 and use it as an aim trainer

[tough folio]

or they arent smart enough to play better games, but thats just my opinion lol

[azure rampart]

You'll tank me later

[scenic frost]

basically slightly tracking bullets

[stiff pollen]

Just Google halo5 bullet magnetism

[azure rampart]

Tank

I can't type

[teal widget]

if you say so man

[stiff pollen]

It has the strongest bullet magnetism in any FPS

[spiral folio]

Ive tried armor piercing belts for LMGs all they really do is tell the chopper where to attack next

[scenic frost]

nah, i do like CoD, but nowadays as it is, as much as i like their gun customization, the rest of the game sucks balls

[eager spire]

Like, "Oh, you're not good enough to beat the soft aimbot we programmed into the game for controller players? fine, have it you dumb idiot."

[fiery shoal]

pc gets bullet magnetism on infinite?

[stiff pollen]

Yea

[eager spire]

Yes, now.

[fiery shoal]

never knew

[eager spire]

It was added recently.

[fiery shoal]

ah they added it? i only played infinite at launch

and during the flights

[eager spire]

This chart was cited as justification for doing so.

[stiff pollen]

I’ve played infinite since launch and the flights and it’s pretty decent

The game is much better now

[drowsy shuttle]

hum... wouldn't the SFAR with anti-armor grenade launcher a better option?

[stiff pollen]

The challenges are easier, aiming feels better, the balance is better between controller and MNK

[dense hedge]

my claw fucked up my aiming

[ripe hedge]

Maybe, but I wanted to recommend something out of the ordinary

[tough folio]

havent seen any value that it has provided since after bo3. and other games just have way better quality gameplay imo

[fiery shoal]

maybe ill give it a shot just to see how i feel about the differences now

i basically stopped because i hated how my fairly crack aim meant nothing

[eager spire]

Hey, Alex, can I ask a question?

[spiral folio]

With how obscenely durable the transport chopper is the AP rounds just draw fire to you

[scenic frost]

MW was fun when SBMM let it be fun. The weapon selection was great and so was the attachment selection/options.

[stiff pollen]

Like honestly if shooters gave me the option to have AA on MNK I wouldn’t use it if my aim was already on point like BF2042 but for CoD it’s needed if you aren’t stodeh or something

[ripe hedge]

Always

[eager spire]

The balance is better between Controller and KBM
i donno about that, when KBM players are getting 75% accuracy casually post update, that seems like a problem to me.

[scenic frost]

THe return to actual times was a breath of fresh air, i fucking hated jet pack cods

[mental delta]

Hey Alex, what about M416 recoil ?

[drowsy shuttle]

fair enough :) ...i mean when i see people ask "whats the best gun" i usually say Ghostmaker and im not even joking... i love that weapon so much... i got it to tier 1 and still using it.. btw, thank you for that beautiful baby.... (and don't nerf it lol)

[stiff pollen]

Most MNK players are quite shit ima be real

They don’t dial in their DPI, play on hardware that is out of date

[eager spire]

I saw a post on the BF Bulletin twitter about you considering buffing the G57. I have to ask, considering the fact that the G57 already got a buff in the form of getting a 2x headshot multiplier, what justification could there be for buffing it again?

[tough folio]

i was already getting beamed before, idk if its a problem now. though i havent* played after the cgb was added so fair enough

[fiery shoal]

the amount of people that dont even have enhance pointer precision off...

[stiff pollen]

Bingo

[azure rampart]

In English?

[fiery shoal]

or they have their sensitivity stupidly high...

[eager spire]

To be fair, KBM does demand more from the player than controller with aim assist.

So it makes sense that a lot of people would not do as great on it.

[fiery shoal]

for which comment?

[drowsy shuttle]

thats a good question.. i think the G57 its already the best secondary...

[azure rampart]

Uh

[drowsy shuttle]

along side the mp28

[stiff pollen]

I literally spent months tweaking my aim on KBM when I switched from console cause I was so shit

[azure rampart]

Enhanced pointer thingy

[ripe hedge]

None, I sometimes say stupid shit just to see what you all think and sometimes that makes it into BF Bulletin.

I won't stop saying stupid shit just because of that

[drowsy shuttle]

lol

[scenic frost]

An actual troll

[eager spire]

Oh. So it was a joke. Okay.

[scenic frost]

hahahaha

i dig it

[teal widget]

Yo anyone up to play some 2042?

[eager spire]

saying this, they casually tossed aside a large rock.

[stiff pollen]

you should post you’re considering buffing the AC42

[spiral folio]

Fun fact, its called the g57 because its 57mm

[stiff pollen]

[drowsy shuttle]

ghostmaker > bsv > everything else

[scenic frost]

Wdym, give the G57 an auto option, you coward

[stiff pollen]

“I’m considering buffing the Rorsch MK4 and AC42, your thoughts?”

[fiery shoal]

enhance pointer precision is a toggle in your windows mouse settings that if turned on (which it is by default) absolutely fucks any sort of muscle memory when it comes to aiming. basically its a dynamic dpi scaler that the faster you move your mouse the higher the dpi. so if you move your mouse 3 inches fast it goes further than if you moved your mouse 3 inches slow

[dapper river]

@ripe hedge what kind of nerfs are you guys looking at for the Rorsch? (it seems inevitable at this point)
I think you should consider tying magazine size to fire mode, and require the player to perform a reload animation when changing out the capacitor packs. That way the players get their nerf without nerfing what makes the railgun unique (high muzzle vel, low bullet drop) 🧐

[stiff pollen]

Turn on notifications and sit back and sip some tea

[ripe hedge]

Not a joke. More like "hey I'm thinking on deleting the SFAR" and see the replies. Fishing for someone to say someone interesting like "oh yeah that would help the meta" and see some thoughts.

[azure rampart]

I think I have that off

[eager spire]

well i mean i was thinking that was a joke because i assume you do play the video game.

[stiff pollen]

If I was a game dev I’m 100% gonna go on the forums and say something like “we’re deleting sundance, sorry”

[spiral folio]

The meta meta is destroy the meta

[stiff pollen]

Just don’t even elaborate

[scenic frost]

no pls

[drowsy shuttle]

i would reply "okay, im uninstalling the game"

[scenic frost]

i wanna glide and zooom thru the air

delete McCunt

[azure rampart]

I barely mess with settings to avoid doing something stupid

[dapper river]

reprimanded and put in time-out by management due to bad PR

[spiral folio]

Even devs participate in the meta-meta

[azure rampart]

Consider this

[stiff pollen]

Indie dev doesn’t get reprimanded if they their own boss

[fiery shoal]

type mouse, click mouse settings, additional mouse in top right, go to pointer speed tab, underlined the one that should be turned off

[stiff pollen]

[azure rampart]

Bring back end of round voicelines

[dapper river]

yes 😎

[eager spire]

If i was a game dev, i would play the game, take notes while playing it, and ask higher tier players what they think about things.

I would take no other feedback.

[tough folio]

what does that do

[drowsy shuttle]

deleting sundance + ghostmaker would be deleting bf 2042 for me

[dapper river]

Most of the characters' end of round voicelines are still burned into my brain

[spiral folio]

Tier doesnt matter as far as skill

[azure rampart]

I cba to open my pc at 11pm just for that

[spiral folio]

Its basically "time played"

[fiery shoal]

makes your mouse more accurate

[eager spire]

Well i mean like, higher skilled players, you know.

Proper competitive guys.

[scenic frost]

ty, didnt knew that existed

[spiral folio]

Ive seen people in games thst havent learned shit from day 1

[eager spire]

People who generally know what they're talking about.

[stiff pollen]

I have seen competitive players that are actually brain dead real life

[fiery shoal]

turning off mouse enhance pointer precision is like... step 1 of having good aim with with a mouse

[spiral folio]

How would you know they know what theyre talking about

[stiff pollen]

XQC trying to assemble a chair stream

[azure rampart]

I think I have good aim.....

[eager spire]

XQC was a winston main.

[stiff pollen]

EXPLAINS A LOT

[fiery shoal]

if you have that turned on and think you have good aim, youd have much better aim with it off

[spiral folio]

What if they're just like stupid but confident af

[ripe hedge]

Some are in the pipeline already and more changes based on feedback next year

[tough folio]

what does the feature actually try to do with its function

[scenic frost]

Having one particular good skill doesn't make you less smooth brained in other stuff

[eager spire]

Well, I would get more than one source of feedback, which should help with that.

[ripe hedge]

Correct! Based and cultured

[fiery shoal]

dynamic dpi, basically makes your mouse dpi slower if you physically move your mouse slower. so moving your mouse 3 inches fast makes the cursor go further than if you moved your mouse 3 inches slow.. basically theres no way to build muscle memory

[stiff pollen]

XQC attempting to build a pc on stream remains a highlight

It’s mouse acceleration

[spiral folio]

Next year cause everyones taking their vacation use-or-lose days and nobody gets anything done at year end

[eager spire]

I don't really like XQC that much.

[stiff pollen]

Makes it move faster the faster you swing your mouse around

[eager spire]

But then again i don't like most streamers.

[tough folio]

ahh i understand now

[scenic frost]

My 2 cents would be to keep the sniper mode as it is bullet wise, but make the charge time a bit longer, add an animation of swapping between modes and nerf the damage to vehicles a bit.

[stiff pollen]

It’s shit and only good for small desks at office jobs

[drowsy shuttle]

what? make it longer? i think its already an eternity ...

[eager spire]

the charge time isn't that bad tbh

it seems about the same as the P06 from Black Ops 3

and that was basically a dominant force on PC

[scenic frost]

There has to be a trade off for almost 0 drop and basically a hitscan that oneshots in the head at any range

[tough folio]

essentially look acceleration for controllers but worse

[fiery shoal]

not exactly scientific, but i got to diamond in ow1 with enhance pointer precision on, turned it off and 1 season later got to grand master. of course learning and grinding the game was a large contributor as well but i think turning that off helps a ton

[drowsy shuttle]

a good sniper can counter that pretty easy with quickscoping

[spiral folio]

Yea the rails recharge makes it a pain to snipe with i found

[scenic frost]

at range? my balls

[stiff pollen]

I don’t snipe in video games because I don’t hate myself

[spiral folio]

Its frustrating to get got by one

[stiff pollen]

I was only good at sniping in TF2 when I was 13

[scenic frost]

i do, hitting those headshots is rewarding

[spiral folio]

But like if somebodys rail poppiny at me. I'll spot em with my rifle then launch a Lis rocket at em

[scenic frost]

but getting a hitmarker in the chest fucking hurts me physically

i understand that balance yadayadayada, but i dont like it

[drowsy shuttle]

wanna bet? lol give me the gol and i can deal with a player with rorsch with no problem... unless he flanks me

[spiral folio]

The charge shot thing is kinda silly. Like the military would field a tank with a delayed shot

[scenic frost]

I play on HC 70% of the time lol, i just spray in their general direction and we either trade or he dies first

[fiery shoal]

i CHOKE when it comes to landing a single shot that needs to be landed for success

[scenic frost]

Which is why semiautos fuck

[eager spire]

I sometimes snipe but most of the time i don't

I would like to get better at it in BF1

[stiff pollen]

I refuse to use snipers I can only land shots on AI

[fiery shoal]

i also hate clicking a lot xD

[eager spire]

mostly because the headshot noise is satisfying

[drowsy shuttle]

now the rorsch at close range is different.. but at range with the charge time... for me its pointless... (its good against vehicles)

[fiery shoal]

i typically just go full auto cqc

[scenic frost]

i enjoy sniping in BF1

that martiny henry was a thing of beauty

[eager spire]

I don't even like the martini henry.

Every time i get killed by that thing it's a sweetspot body shot and it's always annoying.

[scenic frost]

i dont have the FPSs to do that consistently hahahaha

[fiery shoal]

i miss bfv headshot sniping when they started counting, i solely sniped in that game for that

[eager spire]

I fucking hate the sweetspot mechanic

[scenic frost]

love youuuu

I do agree its stupid, but also forced snipers to stay at their weapon's range

[eager spire]

"oh but it makes snipers have to stay at a distance and play more like snipers" shut up i should be able to kill a guy if he runs up in my face and i don't have the time to pull out my pistol.

[drowsy shuttle]

sniping in BF V was pretty damn satisfying... i played sniper most of the time... got called a cheater a few times...

[scenic frost]

I did snipe in BFV too

[fiery shoal]

they really nailed sniping in that game (after the velocity update)

[scenic frost]

with the M30 drilling

[drowsy shuttle]

and i also think sniping in bf 2042 is also very satisfying... its one of the things that worked pretty well since launch

[scenic frost]

[eager spire]

BFV seems like it'd be interesting but the gunplay seems so ass, i don't even wanna bother with it.

[fiery shoal]

i dont think ive tried sniping in 2042 unless i wanted to kill 1 person really quickly

[eager spire]

Spread to recoil conversion, ugh.

[scenic frost]

You can't imagine how fucking powerful i felt everytime i outsniped someone with the fucking shotgun

[ripe hedge]

Did you like that?

[drowsy shuttle]

its great... i remember sniping in hourglass breakthrough 128 players... or breakaway... those really long shots... so damn cool

[fiery shoal]

i have a total of 41 sniper kills...

[scenic frost]

at least you didn't have to watch how your bullets went to god knows where

[eager spire]

no.

[eager spire]

eh

I never really got annoyed about that unless i was getting suppressed

[scenic frost]

since the reticle followed the spread... idk

[eager spire]

suppression is also just a bad mechanic, good that it was removed in BFV

[scenic frost]

it felt more natural to me

[scenic frost]

i agree with that

at most it should be a visual effect

it gives LMGs a niche

[drowsy shuttle]

:o wow lol the weapon where i have the most kills is the SWS (i don't remember the number of kills tho.. but probably 3000 i think.. need to check that next time i play)

[scenic frost]

LOL

[ripe hedge]

How about an audio effect too?

[eager spire]

I don't get how the concept of a mechanic that rewards players for Not Hitting A Target ever got far enough to be programmed into the game.

And then stay there for years.

[scenic frost]

Wouldn't be a bad thing, something like lowering the sound of everything but the bullets hitting cm's away from you.

[scenic frost]

BF3

[spiral folio]

Because when you have bullets hitting around you it has an effect on how people

[eager spire]

1. i'm pretty sure it existed before BF3
2. I know it was in BF3, I don't get how it got that far.

[scenic frost]

I wanted to strangle IRL people that defended how supression worked in that game

[pseudo pecan]

anyone enjoy rush XL because of the chaos that happens all in a single battle line? how do you push against a good defense? any specialists or gadgets help in those situations? im assuming its better to be pushing from mid range since getting close can mean getting shot from all directions?

[drowsy shuttle]

smoke, dude... smoke grenades is your best friend

[scenic frost]

smoke everywhere and pray your team shares a neuron

[inner roost]

I hope the MCS gets changed, sucks to see a pump shotgun perform this bad in Battlefield

[tough folio]

smoke launcher, mackey, and a good gun and team

[pseudo pecan]

who has a smoke launcher?

[eager spire]

i think it's funny

[scenic frost]

@ripe hedge Give us a double barrel shotgun like the M30, please

[drowsy shuttle]

everyone... its a gadget

[eager spire]

it's actually hilarious to me.

[silk surge]

That's a dope ass skin

[tough folio]

you gotta unlock it

[pseudo pecan]

ah ok the smoke gernade

[scenic frost]

i want to bully snipers with its alternate fire

[inner roost]

I don't find DICE refusing to fix an already shit weapon funny

[arctic grove]

the anti-aliasing on angel's face is real

[ripe hedge]

The new NVK-S22 has 2 barrels 😊

[drowsy shuttle]

yes you can use the grenades (you get 2 of them) or equip the gadget

[eager spire]

I do cause it's a shotgun

:>

[pseudo pecan]

so you smoke and push forward?

[arctic grove]

Can you say something if there will be new jets :>

[scenic frost]

fair point hahahaha, its basically a modified KSG, right?

[inner roost]

Yet 12M and NVK continue to dominate

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah... pretty much.... oh and flank..

[ripe hedge]

Who's "refusing"?

[pseudo pecan]

so better to gear up for close combat than?

[tough folio]

its up rn

[spiral folio]

Not saying bf1s suppression was great but some effect of the act of suppression does make sense unless everyone's a robot i guess

[inner roost]

It's been pretty bad since S3 update, I haven't seen anyone touch on it or talk about fixing it

[ripe hedge]

Nope, I only talk about guns

[eager spire]

I don't like the idea that i'm getting punished because someone else can't hit me.

[drowsy shuttle]

Sorry to bother Alex, but you guys have plans to buff the MCS-800? i think it needs a buff... no?

[eager spire]

This is not about realism. I do not care about that.

[arctic grove]

Who shall I annoy for Jet updates?

[spiral folio]

Otherwise like people having bullets hit near them they do have some affect on people. As in normal humans that dont want to die

[tough folio]

make a gun that shoots bubbles and makes people fly

[ripe hedge]

Yeah but that ain't "refusing"

[scenic frost]

Maybe adding an extra pellet or 2 could help it?

[quiet shell]

Wish the guys who worked on the game rendering and loading would rework how the game loads on start up so that I'm not stuttering my pc into a mini-fusion reactor because the game demands all my PC's rescources to load everything far away from me instead of up close.

[scenic frost]

what's its problem rn?

[eager spire]

Here's what i think should happen to the MCS

Remove all the ammo types except for slugs

[scenic frost]

i tried it a few times and it feels inconsistant but not trash

[spiral folio]

Its not a measure of whether they're even trying to hit you. Suppression has a function

[drowsy shuttle]

oh you guys were already talking about the MCS lol

[inner roost]

Yeah it's not outright refusal you're right, it's just been in a very bad spot for a long time, and now it's been completely gutted without reason

[eager spire]

I don't care, i don't like that i'm effectively getting punished because someone else can't hit me.

[tough folio]

oh, your on last gen, my fault. yeah. rush xl is rush but with 128 players, its horrid lmao

[scenic frost]

you gotta understand that with how open the maps are and shit its way harder to make shotties work

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah its the only primary weapon that i miss getting to tier 1 (beside the new weapons or vault) ... im waiting on a buff, cause that shit is almost impossible...

[eager spire]

i don't understand why they're in this game at all

[spiral folio]

Its not being punished its "your character is a human that is affected by bullets hitting near them"

[scenic frost]

'Cause shotties are cool

and they fuck

[eager spire]

yes it's being punished.

[scenic frost]

If they are only usable with slugs, then there's another issue at hand

[spiral folio]

Then don't pick a human character

[eager spire]

Because i'm playing a video game, someone else is unable to hit me, and i am being punished for it by not being able to effectively retaliate.

I am not talking about realism here.

[ripe hedge]

Because I really like shotguns 😕

[eager spire]

I do not care about that.

[spiral folio]

Blame EA for not adding enough robots

[ripe hedge]

This

[spiral folio]

Phrasing

[eager spire]

what issue is that

[inner roost]

Shotguns are great in Battlefield, some people are always going to dislike them though

[tough folio]

2042 channel is very chatty today

[scenic frost]

that they do not work in their intended distance, which is 0-10 meters

[eager spire]

I just think they're always annoying to play against literally all of the time

[eager spire]

why would slugs not work at that distance

[scenic frost]

Because people do not like to get oneshotted, which is fair

[eager spire]

there is no reason that slugs would not work at that distance

[scenic frost]

that should be pellet range

slugs are for pushing their range further

[eager spire]

that's not answering my question

[spiral folio]

Slugs arent suuuper high velocity or aerodynamic

[drowsy shuttle]

why? its the shot that matters... be faster then...

[eager spire]

why would slugs not work at that range

[eager spire]

Be faster then
You cannot beat 0 TTK.

You just can't. It's not possible.

[scenic frost]

if you are pidgeonholed into using an attachment because without it the weapon is trash, then you got a problem

Time to buff the base weapon

[spiral folio]

I couldn't tell you the max range of a deer slug off the top of my head but its not exactly a rifle

[eager spire]

that's what i'm saying. scrap all the ammo types. Make it use slugs exclusively.

[scenic frost]

i didn't explain myself correctly before, mb

[eager spire]

It oneshots people now, and it takes actual skill to use.

win win

[drowsy shuttle]

you guys never played COD 2, right? the rifles one shotted people.. and nobody complained and everybody had the chance to kill... just need to be faster and have better aim...

[eager spire]

there is a difference between a shotgun oneshotting and a rifle oneshotting.

[inner roost]

shotguns aren't even a problem with the long engagement distances in BF

[scenic frost]

Nah, i rather have a pump action oneshotting people between 0-10 meters

than be killed over and over again by an AR without recoil lasering me form 100m

[eager spire]

Getting a oneshot with a shotgun is easy. Ridiculously easy. You can do that without even aiming down sights most of the time in the intended ranges of a shotgun. You have to be an absolute idiot to fuck that up.

Getting a oneshot with a rifle takes a bit more effort than that.

[scenic frost]

You can also spray and pray with a SMG for the same effect

[ripe hedge]

Gonna go sleep. Thanks, reading y'alls feedback has been great today. Good night.

[scenic frost]

sleep tight!

[eager spire]

SMG's don't have 0 TTK though

They cannot one shot

under any circumstance

[scenic frost]

with the amount of ROF they got, they might as well

[eager spire]

Nah.

[inner roost]

Buckshot should definitely one shot if you're in 10m range

[drowsy shuttle]

enjoy your rest. ty for the ghostmaker

[scenic frost]

and since outside of their range they are absolut trash, like shotties without slugs

and that is okay

because that's their intended range

[remote meteor]

So crossparty between pc and xbox series x/s and ps5 is only possible if the console users play the next gen version?

[drowsy shuttle]

yes

[scenic frost]

shotties 0-10
smgs 0-25
ARs 25-100
DMrs and snipers 100-

That is my take on it

[eager spire]

I don't see how you think SMG's and shotguns are comparable, because in a direct engagement, unless the shotgun user is a fucking idiot, the shotgun user is always going to win

They have 0 TTK.

You can't outdamage that.

[scenic frost]

You can keep your distance

[inner roost]

Well, in close range the shotgun user should always win

[scenic frost]

and voil'a

that shit is not going to one tap you anytime

[eager spire]

That is literally the only recourse you have in that scenario, but that's not always possible, especially if you're not aware of where the shotgun user is.

[scenic frost]

specially with how crappy the MCS is

same with SMGs

[remote meteor]

But I can crossplay and crossparty with ps5 and xbox s/x on pc right?

[scenic frost]

yup

[remote meteor]

aight thanks

[eager spire]

it's not the same with SMG's. SMG's cannot oneshot. They have higher than a 0 ms TTK.

[scenic frost]

they still kill you extremely fast in their range

[eager spire]

But it's not 0.

They cannot oneshot. That's the thing.

[scenic frost]

Jesus crist

DUDE

[inner roost]

It's a buckshot what do you expect?

[scenic frost]

YOU ARENT REACTING ANYWAYS

[inner roost]

Take a shot to the chest and walk it off?

[scenic frost]

What is the difference between 0 and 0.5s

none

You cant react to either

unless the attacker fucks up their first shot or shoots to the fucking moon

they will win

and that is okay

because YOU ARE IN THEIR RANGE

[inner roost]

Far more annoying to be getting hitscan one shotted by rorsch campers than a shotgun killing you close range

[eager spire]

well it's actually 270 ms, assuming the best case scenario, K30 in close range.

[eager spire]

That's a different issue.

[scenic frost]

My point stands

I mean, the rorsch basically invalidates snipers that camp like 400m away bypod deployed

[arctic grove]

K30 is very strong

AM-40 is stronger.

[eager spire]

That's still some amount of tracking that the SMG user has to do. They're not getting the kill immediately upon shooting, they still have to aim decently to get that quick TTK.

[scenic frost]

yeah

track for

[eager spire]

Shotguns, you don't. You have to massively fuck up to lose your 0 TTK in a direct engagement.

[scenic frost]

0.3s +/-

WOW

Yeah, the difference is that if you miss your first shot with a shottie, you're toast 70% of the time

and that is alright

[eager spire]

yeah, and you have to be a fucking idiot to do that in a direct engagement considering how easy they are to use.

[arctic grove]

M5A3 and AM-40 exist :|

[eager spire]

YES I KNOW THEY EXIST

[arctic grove]

very solid guns

[eager spire]

BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM

[scenic frost]

I refuse to keep arguing with a wall, this is something i can't agree with you, so, i agree to disagree.

[arctic grove]

Yeah but they do work like SMG's

[eager spire]

You are up against the wall, and I AM THE FUCKING WALL

[inner roost]

Shotguns are not running rampant in 2042 come on it's a non issue, they play how they should

You dislike them that's fine

[eager spire]

12m is a blatant annoyance though and has been for ages

[scenic frost]

you bet there would be 10x the bitching

because its a semiauto

[eager spire]

fair enough

[hallow sierra]

expect the 12m with slug rounds

[scenic frost]

which i am the first one to say are fucking dumb

Semis should require at least 2 shots to kill at any range

[hallow sierra]

i dont see how they didnt do anything to the 12m

[eager spire]

I just don't like shotguns in most FPS games. Exceptions are arena shooters and TF2.

Because those don't have shotguns that oneshot ever.

In fact, no guns in AFPS games do that.

[hallow sierra]

im going to use the new shotgun once i get it unlock

[scenic frost]

i wanna try it too

the KSG was a fave of mine in BO2

[eager spire]

from what i heard it's basically like the 12m but without a mag

and i think it has a wider spread

[scenic frost]

Hope is at least more consistent than the 880

[scenic frost]

so, its worse at range?

For what i remember of other games, the KSG adaptations usually let you shoot 2 rounds on semi and then you have to pump

[eager spire]

Maybe

[slender isle]

Have I missed all the event talk? Cause that shit looks fire

[eager spire]

That’s not how the KSG works.

You’re thinking of the DP12.

[scenic frost]

Ooooh, can be, wait, let me check

[scenic frost]

You're 100% correct

[eager spire]

But yeah it’s semi auto in this game

[hallow sierra]

hows the raillgun on auto

[scenic frost]

i'll have to play some TCT and pray i get a map with some CQC parts

[scenic frost]

full auto has some mad recoil the few times i've shot it

It does its job, tho

[hallow sierra]

i was thinking about using it auto to t1 it

[clever marlin]

Use the burst module. It’s much better in terms of fire rate

[hallow sierra]

theres a burst?

[kindred flint]

yes all 3 modes

[clever marlin]

Yep

[kindred flint]

but you cant use the change fire mode button, its on the plus menu

[clever marlin]

Burst is good for infantry and full auto is good for tanks

I’d use single fire for helicopters and nets

[hallow sierra]

i tho youre supposed to unlock them but i see it comes with it

[quiet shell]

Im starting to see signs DICE turned SBMM back on.

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[kindred flint]

that would be terrible for vehicle sweats

[sharp marten]

Damn 💀

[chilly jacinth]

its just an influx of shit players

[scenic frost]

let them eat shit

[kindred flint]

that nightbird sweats post on reddit today...oh god thats so much cringe from that streamer

[quiet shell]

That would be so fucking LAME if they turned it back on because they now have a player count that doesnt resemble the population of a rural cult

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[hallow sierra]

dice wouldnt be that dumb to add sbmm

[scenic frost]

eh

[scenic frost]

don't say that too loud

or we might get a rotten christmas present

[inner roost]

Every game has sbmm now

[hallow sierra]

at this point i want cold

[scenic frost]

as long as its VERY light

its alright

there has to be some kind of matchmaking protection

but i don't want to experience CoD's ever again

[arctic grove]

wait battlefield 42 got it too?

[inner roost]

Team balancing + server browser would be the best but we don't got that in 2042

[arctic grove]

thought it was clean

[inner roost]

No, battlefield has team balancing only I think

or nothing at all

[arctic grove]

i don't think it got team balancing

[quiet shell]

2042 Had SBMM at launch. But they had to turn it off when the player count dipped below 20k and its been off ever since until now seemingly

[kindred flint]

yeah it has team balancing, its called AI replacing those that leave a lopsided match

[inner roost]

I've been playing since launch I've never noticed sbmm

[hallow sierra]

same

[stoic ferry]

god I want the ability to lock Vehicles to squad. OMG fix that plz

[modest ivy]

This is beyond cursed...

[quiet shell]

Thats because for the first 3 months the weapons handled so poorly the skill level simply didnt exist

[kindred flint]

look at that thicc booty

[inner roost]

Is that Mackay booty?

[sharp marten]

I just sniffed the sd card out of my phone

[kindred flint]

sundance? doing a takedown

[inner roost]

Oh I thought Mackay since the burnt skin

[kindred flint]

didnt like 4 people get the burnt skin?

[quiet shell]

And yet they gave FALCK the booty skin

[inner roost]

I thought it was just Mackay + Lis

Could be more idk I don't look in the shop much anymore

[kindred flint]

I have negative integer caring about skins

[scenic frost]

we have portal at least

[scenic frost]

that is a yoga pose i've never seen before

[quiet shell]

Is it because none of them are good enough to be a tag on R34?

[scenic frost]

[sharp marten]

💀

[inner roost]

That's a great thing tbf

[modest ivy]

sundance, getting a throwing knife kill whilst in the middle of going back into the wing suit right before hitting the ground

[modest ivy]

not like sundance need one

[scenic frost]

sundance already has cake xD

[silk surge]

I uhm... think I underestimated DICE.... I said that there was no way that they would do the exact thing they ended up doing...

[quiet shell]

Lis definitely does tho

[kindred flint]

Flashy outfits just get you shot easier, and you cant see them in a fps anyways, Id only care about gun skins but then again I cant be bothered to use my free boins in the store

[scenic frost]

if the gun skins changed the models of attachments

instead of being recolours

i would think about dropping some coins

[kindred flint]

your first mistake was not expecting stupidity first- balance second.

[eager spire]

man's outted himself as a time traveler, smh

[arctic grove]

DICE MOMENT

[modest ivy]

And Mackay, and Dozer, and...

[kindred flint]

railgun was/is a stupid weapon, thats my objectively correct opinion

[arctic grove]

DICE balancing weapons is as complicated as Quantum mechanics

[arctic grove]

Mackay and Sundance dont need C5

[inner roost]

Dice genius for releasing hitscan weapon that outperforms an anti-material sniper rifle

[proper knot]

my buddy just started streaming, and hes a top player, ranked 6th best player in north america, and 2nd best in canada. where can i promote his stream?

[kindred flint]

inb4 akshually its not hitscan!!

[arctic grove]

NTW was nerfed.... its not a one shot kill anymore

[low timber]

It is

[scenic frost]

that doesnt make any sense LOL

[low timber]

Just lost 50m of its range

[scenic frost]

why tf the antimatter sniper that is slow as balls doesnt oneshot

[inner roost]

My main concern is the vehicle damage of the NTW 50, which is laughable with it's ammo count

[kindred flint]

if only there was a rules channel...or information in individual channels

[arctic grove]

Its an anti material bullet. It kills whatever M it is.

[modest ivy]

On the contrary, I've recognised a few enemies a lot of times when they wear the extra flashy clothing
For example, the Mackay cowbow hat

[low timber]

Same can be said with any bullet

[scenic frost]

but anti material kills HARDER

[kindred flint]

isnt that exactly what i was saying?

[arctic grove]

^^^

[modest ivy]

and you cant see them in a fps anyways

[kindred flint]

FIRST person shooter

[low timber]

The anti materiel rifles in BFV also only had 100m ohk body shot range, now the NTW is as well

[inner roost]

Getting shot with an AMR IRL would blow your limbs off instantly

[modest ivy]

ooooh, you mean see it yourself

[kindred flint]

also needed to bipod..wait does the nwt need that also?

[scenic frost]

if i recall correctly, getting shot with a barret past certain distance would make you literally explode into red mist, right?

[kindred flint]

yeah a game like fortnite sure....you see yourself all the time, but cod/bf its like uhh??

[low timber]

No, but it’s bipod does work, not just for show

[inner roost]

It would blow you up if it connects anywhere

Impossible to survive .50 BMG round

[modest ivy]

Anyhow, I see my sundance skin plenty when using the wingsuit 😄
And when I knife people 🔪

[kindred flint]

https://youtu.be/BQAfHvpv6uk if you wanted to know more about the effects of a 50 cal on say...human head

[scenic frost]

maybe if it hits your hand or feet? 🧐

Would probably tear off the arm or leg entirely lol

[inner roost]

Yeah, trauma to the body would be too much even if hits your arm

[kindred flint]

this mans clearly played a certain cod4 single player mission a lot

[arctic grove]

GUYS I FOUND SPEARHEAD LOCATION IN 2022

[devout flare]

The amount of bullets I'll soak playing falk would kill anyone irl

[woeful python]

yo guys levelcap gamings new video is great I suggest you watch it it's about what improvements to the franchise they can make very good.

[dapper river]

[kindred flint]

bro....this is a repost from like 3 weeks ago smh

[arctic grove]

Soo

its funny

[kindred flint]

reposter (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[arctic grove]

This is just how it works out sometimes

[dapper river]

ah sweet its the guy from day of the living dead at night (2004) !!!

[scenic frost]

lol

bf2042 modelswap when

[inner roost]

Thank god I'm not the only one who thought angel looked like him

[arctic grove]

He is playing Angel in the upcoming Battlefield 2042: The Movie

[scenic frost]

i wanna play as patrick bateman

[magic bloom]

That’s the best shit I ever seen

[scenic frost]

imagine running around with a fireaxe

Hey Paul!

Chops up a Rorsch camper

[brisk imp]

When Evant started

[inner roost]

We already got Andrew Tate as a specialist, Bateman could be next

[magic bloom]

I’m a future Andrew Tate main ong

[arctic grove]

Andrew Tate if he got a good bronze tan

[dapper river]

"Ehrm, uh like, yeah! This is how it works out at times" -Ty Burell as Angel in Battlefield®️ 2042: The Movie, releasing this February exclusively on Paramount+™️!

[pseudo pecan]

can enemies use angel's supply drop?

[inner roost]

I think so

[arctic grove]

NGL id subscribe to Paramount+ to watch it.

[inner roost]

You can use enemy ammo crates and med crates so I think angels supply drop applies too

[scenic frost]

i am pretty sure i've watched people use my crates

[kindred flint]

is the movie going to come out 6 months too early?

[arctic grove]

I can confirm it works. I axed an angel from behind and resupplied with his crate

[dapper river]

they do a halo: the series style adaptation but instead of a sci-fi drama (that sucks!!!) it's a war comedy

[arctic grove]

1 year early*

[inner roost]

Biggest flex ever

[kindred flint]

damn bro i was trying to be generous there...dont murder the devs any more

[arctic grove]

Master Cheeks. I love Horrible Halo Fanfic.

[kindred flint]

who else loves going up to the supply crate and using the prompt to open it, only to not open it nor get ammo...but have the cooldown apply?

[sharp marten]

You know how they’re adding a fan fav map in S5 I think I know what it is

I think it’s caspain border

[inner roost]

Caspian border 2014 💀

[arctic grove]

NEVER FORGET

[arctic grove]

Honestly: bf4 caspian > bf3 caspian

[inner roost]

I did like how it played in some sections, but my god the wall was full of campers

[arctic grove]

which is why i would get on the tank and blow up the trump wall

[kindred flint]

oh god....128 bt coming back

[arctic grove]

YES

[kindred flint]

cancerous fuck

[sharp marten]

Bros always mad about something

[kindred flint]

also the trailer clip with zain shooting over the irish barriers what a shit irish main to not use APS

[arctic grove]

who is this Alexia Christofi?

[sharp marten]

A dev

[arctic grove]

Cool

i was just curious

[sharp marten]

Yeah

Yeah I gotta change my name up maybe Stratford’s #1 Simp

[dapper river]

only on spearhead I think, which was not designed with 128 in mind

If it's on other maps though then that's cool

[arctic grove]

It be could to keep the same layout despite not being designed for 128.

I love chaos in general

Rush XL is the 2nd best thing

[sharp marten]

If 128 does good and people like it then it should stay

[dapper river]

If I must play 128 bt on spearhead, fuck it, I'm sitting in the back on Casper drone, farming spot XP

[arctic grove]

It should bare minimum stay in Portal.

[arctic grove]

Just farm all weeklies really. 😎

[slender isle]

Isn’t caspian already in the game

[slender isle]

Me too lmao. Gotta get that T1 somehow

[arctic grove]

Yes but i think he was being sarcastic.

[slender isle]

My bad 😳

[sharp marten]

No I was serious

It’s a bf3 Caspian btw

[arctic grove]

BRUH

[kindred flint]

god damn that was a fast match on canals...only managed 24-4

[stoic ferry]

i want LAV from bf4. with termal and incindery nade. god thats so sexy

[kindred flint]

ak with standard extended definitely fucks

[arctic grove]

2042 is real

[sharp marten]

Yeah I hope soon maybe next season they add thermals

[kindred flint]

boris be on a flurry of reposts from ages ago

[arctic grove]

Adds more containers*

You know it

[kindred flint]

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-lame-gif-24851724

[kindred flint]

parachute accuracy is fucked..why did dice think it was ok for people floating in the air to have laser accuracy

[fierce gull]

How do I get out

[sharp marten]

Pray 🙏🏻

[arctic grove]

Respawn

[spiral folio]

Dont just stay

[kindred flint]

escape
redeploy
or alt f4

[spiral folio]

Wall is life

[arctic grove]

Bmac, gonna post more repost

[kindred flint]

my block is ready

[dapper river]

Oh I've had T1 casper for months, it's just kind of relaxing to just kick back and watch the battle and get XP for doing so
Plus, you get to air-to-air kill other drones

[arctic grove]

[slender isle]

The instant hsck kill on other drones is great

[arctic grove]

does the game not have the zoom function for mini map

[kindred flint]

there are 3 different zoom levels you can select now

[arctic grove]

isn't it usually N key?

[kindred flint]

yes

[arctic grove]

last time I played, it didn't work

[kindred flint]

when was that?

[arctic grove]

last free weekend

[kindred flint]

it was added in the patch last week iirc, so after the free weekend

dont ask why a feature thats been in how many previous BF titles wasnt there at launch

[arctic grove]

lmao

hey,

that's how 2042 works

release now, add shit later

[kindred flint]

i cant be mad, this is just how it works out sometimes

[arctic grove]

and did they forgot the zoom for spawn menu?

[hexed mango]

again. hud being off doesnt change the visual appearance of the in-game world.

ik but it just looks so good in the trailer... i want it.

[arctic grove]

Zoom for spawn menu?

[slender isle]

Trailer doesn't look too different to in game

[hexed mango]

it looks quite different

[arctic grove]

on the spawn menu

[slender isle]

Does it? I don't really see much difference

[arctic grove]

looking at the map overhead

[hexed mango]

its 10x darker and looks 100x better quality wise

[arctic grove]

Where can I do some funny googling for a reference on what you’re talking about? I’m not sure what that is, at least by name

[arctic grove]

game trailer in nutshell

[hexed mango]

ikr

[arctic grove]

why are we surprised

the map zoom on the spawn menu was in bf4

[hexed mango]

i mean i knew it would look better i just wish it was like that in-game

[arctic grove]

idk if older BF game have that

[hardy swift]

Hey we've got a Milsim BF3 server running called Hardcore Milsim BF3 RUSH (KC Community) Code: aart2a
Its one of the original Milsims from game launch and its a lot of fun, very well balanced. Join up!
MAPS: Caspian Boarder | El Alamein | Battle of the Bulge | Valparasio | Exposure
~200 tickets. FULL XP

[hexed mango]

#portal

[arctic grove]

Oh like zooming in on the spawn menu, hm okay

yes

you know right?

Yosh

Just haven’t played BF4 in a fat minute

[hexed mango]

spawn menu being the map overview on the deploy screen?

[arctic grove]

Gives me headaches and I feel like a slug with the locked 55 fov

[humble charm]

I miss bf4

[arctic grove]

So eat bf4

Becomes one with you forever

[humble charm]

Not a bad idea tbf

Might be a painful poop after tho

[arctic grove]

I’d play it more if they magically updated it to have a fov slider update and maybe a simple slide

[humble charm]

If only

[arctic grove]

yeah that

(Dice please go back to a damn near 10 year old game on a 10 year old engine to do these very specific things pls)

does it hurt to simply have that control

It doesn’t

they lately re added the zoom for your mini map

how sad

Although we won’t get many features that aren’t considered

Necessary, so to say

which pisses me off

do people even pay attention to the mini map nowadays

[slender isle]

Turn down your brightness 😉

[arctic grove]

Like, why can’t I have a very niche feature from Battlefield 3, man?

[hexed mango]

its world lighting bozo

[arctic grove]

I'm curious

[hexed mango]

i do

[slender isle]

I know lmao. It's getting a storm in the event

[hexed mango]

one which we do not have in-game

[arctic grove]

I mean

[slender isle]

I mean it already has a storm-ish in breakthrough

[hexed mango]

it doesnt

[arctic grove]

I scared shitless

I use the minimap extensively in CoD but in BF not so much. Maybe because I have it rather small on my screen

[hexed mango]

it has some clouds

[arctic grove]

I look at the mini map all the time

[slender isle]

Still gets darker

[hexed mango]

but the trailer just looks 100000x nicer
and i wish the game actually used my gpu to get such quality

[hexed mango]

not that dark tho

[arctic grove]

It gets darker but the trailer is portraying a dramatized effect

Therefore it seems to be a lot darker in the trailer

[hexed mango]

exactly

one which i wish was actually present in-game

[arctic grove]

and I want to ask you..

[slender isle]

I mean who knows how the map will look in the event

[arctic grove]

Do you prefer having the basic 4 classes

That’s why I fookin love when there’s rain on 2042s maps

Orbital, kaleidoscope, manifest

Makes them so much better imo

[arctic grove]

Yes.

[upbeat sand]

Wish I could of seen sandstorms in harmada back in bfv

[hexed mango]

3.2

[upbeat sand]

But I never got it

[arctic grove]

all these classes in this darn game is like siege operators

annoying

[hexed mango]

there's 4 classes

[arctic grove]

doesn't matter

[hexed mango]

13 specialists split into those classes

[upbeat sand]

Id say not as bad since they are paired into groups and always has been

[arctic grove]

each character has their own unique abilities

Surprisingly despite 64 different unique abilities on the enemy team running around it doesn’t feel incredibly overwhelming and in favor of any specialist

[upbeat sand]

The game gives you an idea of what this guy is made to do

Everyone isn't a free lancer

[hexed mango]

update 3.2

[arctic grove]

…nobody mention mackay

[hexed mango]

[slender isle]

As do each 4 of the classes in previous games...

[arctic grove]

Not necessarily

Specialists have actual abilities. The classes have roles

just give me some random soldiers that are vehicle hitter, healer, ammo supplier, and snipern

[upbeat sand]

The bfv classes had a trait like system

[slender isle]

BFV was a lil different

[arctic grove]

Yeah V switched it up a bit which I think was a pretty interesting way

[upbeat sand]

There where assault tank hunters

[slender isle]

BFV had 4 classes with 2 sub classes per class

[sharp marten]

Barbecue bacon burger

[arctic grove]

Although it was still in the realm of roles as opposed to unique abilities for a specific character model

how many nationalities are there in this game

I know us and ru,

[upbeat sand]

They are introducing a class system where they limit gadgets and gives the classes their own stuff

[hexed mango]

if you're counting specialists, 13 or smth

[arctic grove]

Too many

No pats have no specific nationality technically speaking

[slender isle]

Well each specialist is from their country if that counts

[arctic grove]

Specialists tho yeh 13 different ones

like I don't think nationality even matters

[hexed mango]

[hexed mango]

why you asking then

[arctic grove]

when you can play and anyone regardless of a team

if you're on Russia, you play as a Irish

[upbeat sand]

Sundance is idk
Dozer is Mexican
Makay is Canadian
Zain is Egyptian
Irish is AMERICASAAAARHCUHCHFB
Boris is russian
Lis is polish

[arctic grove]

god damn

[arctic grove]

Hey I’m Sundance! No I’m Sundance! Or is he Sundance?

[upbeat sand]

Casper is South African/amercian I forgot

[hexed mango]

sundance is from french Guiana or however you spell it

[arctic grove]

Casper is South African yeh

[hexed mango]

the former

[arctic grove]

like why bother with nation team

French Guiana? I thought just Fronce

just simply team alpha or Bravo

[hexed mango]

lore

[arctic grove]

Technically speaking French Guiana is france but I mean metropolitan

[hexed mango]

yes

[upbeat sand]

Rao is Indian
Piak is keoran
Falk is German (I think)
Angel is from the country that steals stuff
Crawford is bri ish

[arctic grove]

it's fun when you're on the china side, you PLAY as the Chinese soldiers

where's the authenticity

And Zain is Egyptian

[arctic grove]

Brother, now you’re speaking my language

We shall rally for faction models again

[upbeat sand]

In lore china's goverment collapsed after bf4 I think

[slender isle]

Because it's a proxy war fought via the US and RU where they use outside No-Pat forces to do their fighting for them

Well a resource war

[hexed mango]

for the point of lore in this game, no-pats work for the said teams

[arctic grove]

Can anybody help me with the challenge in battle field 5?

[upbeat sand]

No;ads are used to the 2 counties have deniability when are asked by the press

[arctic grove]

Sundancs is Non-Binary/French

[hexed mango]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[mild cloud]

when will battle royal come to 2042

[upbeat sand]

Yeah non binary is not ethnicity

[hexed mango]

non binary is not a nationality

[arctic grove]

LOL

[upbeat sand]

Yeah I'm from nonbinland

[arctic grove]

so what, the game only has us and ru teams?

If you want or help me tell me your username on ps4

[arctic grove]

Yes

[arctic grove]

That was the funny

bf4 had 3. Are there older games that have more than 3?

[hexed mango]

wasnt a joke but ok

[arctic grove]

To be fair more factions would almost make 0 difference besides new faction dependent vehicles, announcer voice lines and the flag raised at objectives

[arctic grove]

I know. Im just bad at jokes

[mild cloud]

the game making its way up slowly give them a chance old devs from bf4 and ppl came to help bf get better

[arctic grove]

BF1 had

[hexed mango]

that's very apparent

[arctic grove]

Fookin

[hexed mango]

bf1 isnt older

[arctic grove]

oh yeah

bf1

that's very nice

Oh wait older than BF3/4?