battlefield-2042

[solar tinsel]

well dang I take that back then

I thought MCOMS only showed up in Rush as the mode type

so this was done using what, Custom Conquest?

[placid echo]

Yeah

[solar tinsel]

cool

[white geyser]

I better try to check frontline mode and how does it work

[placid echo]

The only mode that has the editor that you cannot place MCOMs in is Free For All (then again how would that work?)

[arctic grove]

how about defuse mode?

[next onyx]

I hope they fix these spawns soon.

Cause holy fuck they are awful.

[eager spire]

I think you could make that?

[placid echo]

Some people have made Breakthrough, it's not perfect but it's an attempt

[solar tinsel]

dang then... in theory, Carrier Assault / Titan Mode COULD theoretically be made in Portal then, huh?

[eager spire]

I don't think you can change map layouts in Portal though

[solar tinsel]

without the carrier and titan of course ha

[arctic grove]

but if there are plenty of custom modes, doesn't it mean bots can't exist?

[eager spire]

Carrier Assault
boats don't exist in this game.

[placid echo]

Carrier Assault is a possibility but not one I wanna try

You know Norshar Canals

[eager spire]

who cares about carrier assault

[placid echo]

That too

I don't know how to balance it properly enough lol

[white geyser]

I guess they should add frontline mode that appeared in BF1

[arctic grove]

cheap version of battlefront battle station

if battle phase exist

[copper fulcrum]

Frontlines 2042

I did just post a video on that lol

[white geyser]

Not only frontline but also obliteration mode BF4 too

[placid echo]

I would suggest looking at bfportal.gg for stuff people have made

[eager spire]

Has someone made a proper Domination mode for 2042

[arctic grove]

do we have something like war pigeon?

[next onyx]

Need that tier 100 skin for Zain...

[eager spire]

not Tactical Conquest, Domination.

[next onyx]

You cannot actually place custom flags down yet can't you?

[placid echo]

Could just use Tactical Conquest and make it so that kills don't count or use MCOMs on TDM

[solar tinsel]

Speaking of Battlefield 2, I've been working on a BF2 mode which has been coming along quite well, but at the end of the day not sure how much it even matters, again, because you can't get full progression the moment you touch the logic editor.

[placid echo]

Would need to interact with the MCOM though first

[eager spire]

I don't see how that fixes the issue with Tactical Conquest

[placid echo]

With TDM it would be random spawns

[arctic grove]

I'm starting to think the commander abilities in the are replaced by class systems

[white geyser]

Adding frontline mode in 2042 not only in AOW... but might be added in the portal too

[eager spire]

well i mean in Domination spawns are based on what flags you have

[next onyx]

I would love a squad rush like game mode.

Again.

Squad TDM too.

150 kill limit on Squad TDM. Imagine the farming.

[eager spire]

that'd be fun.

[arctic grove]

what about bots

are they not available for custom

[eager spire]

they are

but to be frank I don't care about bots. I would rather try playing actual people.

[arctic grove]

I do

[placid echo]

I did make a small game-mode where two teams protect their own MCOM while needing to arm the other one. The longer it's armed the more points given
https://bfportal.gg/experiences/bombing-blitz/

[arctic grove]

I prefer PvE

[eager spire]

Battlefield is not gonna be an engaging experience for that, to be frank.

[arctic grove]

bf3 did

with a mod

[placid echo]

I did make a mode where you possess a teammate AI when you die :v (if you're interested in PVE)

[white geyser]

I tried doing PvE in the portal and created ground war superiority zombie matchup, but only few people showed on my custom matchup.

[arctic grove]

for nowc

ok waiting on WR to be released

so I can freely play bf4

[placid echo]

I am also making a single-player-like experience

[eager spire]

WR is interesting but i feel like it's gonna end up like VU.

Interesting, but nobody plays it.

[arctic grove]

as long bot support isn't weak

I'm not going to be bored

[eager spire]

well i mean when i tried VU and noticed there were NO NA servers at all i was already pretty bored.

[white geyser]

I hardly play solo because I got bored playing by myself, if there's any new weapons to unlock I'll do it in solo and after that going to the portal if any players gonna join on my custom matchup

[arctic grove]

although my grioenwiru vu are

no progression systemx

and the unintuitive way to start up a match

for my case

[white geyser]

I hope DICE add frontline mode in BF 2042, I need to create a PvE matchup in the portal

[arctic grove]

hopefully WR will have everything in one place

[placid echo]

[eager spire]

the idea of modded content in BF games is cool and is potentially interesting, but very few people actually make stuff that is worthy of that interest, and even fewer people are gonna bother running servers for it.

[hexed mango]

ok recon but an actual (no offense) frontlines mode would be nice

[vague nexus]

I wish we had tons of weak vehicles instead of one stronk tank which draws the focus of all enemy missiles

And two jets

[eager spire]

I think the most VU did that was beneficial was make BF3 servers with higher tickrates

[placid echo]

[hexed mango]

that is the issue, indeed

[vague nexus]

I defo miss having more air vehicles

[eager spire]

but even then nobody cares about that.

Because if people did then they'd run servers.

but there is not. At least not in NA.

[winged charm]

Does bot matches count towards unlocking weapon requirement ? eg : I need 100m + DM7 kills for BS VM

[arctic grove]

hey, Im only involved with VU just for bot mods

that's it

[next onyx]

Yeah they should Prince.

[winged charm]

thanks

[eager spire]

I'd take a decent single player game over a modded multiplayer game with bots, to be frank. I don't get the appeal.

[white geyser]

Last time DICE added a new modes was ground and air superiority in the portal, adding frontline in both AOW and portal would be nice

[arctic grove]

single player scripted ai are boring sometimes

[eager spire]

So, multiplayer scripted AI are supposed to be better?

[arctic grove]

yes

supposed to behave like players

movements and other actions

you've seen battlefront right?

[eager spire]

sounds like the thesis statement, but doesn't seem like that would actually end up working out that way in practice.

[vague nexus]

supposed to

[arctic grove]

think of it as the ai from bf 2017 arcade mode

now translate that into BF4

whoosh

[vague nexus]

it's really hard to mimic a player because we as a server get like 0% of the brain capacity

unless we get an AI to record what players usually do and then try to copy that

This could give you believable bots

[next onyx]

Good spawns.

[eager spire]

you're talking to me like i have experience with BF 2017.

i don't.

[arctic grove]

make a bunch of scripted shit

[vague nexus]

Train a neural net to behave like players add aimbot

[arctic grove]

if they're low on health, they'll deploy the med bags

[vague nexus]

And then get it to evaluate its performance against players so it becomes mad skilled

[hexed mango]

you dont need a nn to do this lol

[eager spire]

doing it this way seems like eventually you'll just end up with aimbots that aren't fun to play against

which is just as bad as bad AI

[vague nexus]

Oh but you'll as a dev get a slider of how well the bots should perform

[solar tinsel]

hey Recon, what rule block lets you place the MCOMs?

[eager spire]

yeah but how do you put player performance on a slider?

[vague nexus]

And you can tie that slider to how well your team is doing and make the bots automatically even the odds

[eager spire]

What metrics do you use to judge that?

[hexed mango]

place as in location of the bomb itself, or triggering its detonation

[solar tinsel]

location

[vague nexus]

Difference of median kd ratio and score

[hexed mango]

you cant move it

[vague nexus]

Team to team

[solar tinsel]

oh I thought someone said you could position them

[vague nexus]

I've found is a good metric of how well teams are pitted against each other

[hexed mango]

nah you can only set its fuse timer

[vague nexus]

Can dynamically alter bot strength to accommodate that

[solar tinsel]

shyyyt

[hexed mango]

sadly there's no map editing
you can make custom objectives with tags tho

[solar tinsel]

thanks anyway

[solar tinsel]

but those can't be positioned either right?

[eager spire]

yeah but that doesn't seem like it'd make the bots play more organically. In fact, it seems like it'd accomplish the opposite.

[hexed mango]

well they can if you do some trickery with bots

[solar tinsel]

right

too bad, I guess they said they would maybe add some map adjustment support one day

[hexed mango]

and iirc you can put a vector into its position
i havent touched it in a while tho

[solar tinsel]

object editing

[next onyx]

Should I get a burger tonight.

[eager spire]

sure go for it

[hexed mango]

yeah so afaik you can get the vector position of an entity, like a bot, and set that as the position of an icon

[next onyx]

I was a dumbass and wrote that without thinking LOL.

[hexed mango]

borgir

[eager spire]

outsourcing your mental capacity to Discord

[next onyx]

How good was bf4's SCAR?

[eager spire]

If it's any indication the SCAR was on the list of banned weapons for ESL.

[next onyx]

I saw that it was alright but I'm not sure how it competed.

[wide shore]

🇺🇸

[eager spire]

So

[next onyx]

Yet the m240 wasn't.,

Which was practically the same gun.

[eager spire]

I think support class wasn't allowed either?

[wide shore]

The DMR version of the SCAR was really good in BF4

[white geyser]

IF they keep adding the weapons from BF3 and BC2, why not the vehicles too? like the LAV

[next onyx]

I don't know much about bf4 comp.

[eager spire]

I would have to check that

Cause i don't remember

[next onyx]

SCAR SV.

[wide shore]

Yesss

I don’t remember how the other SCARs were but that thing slapped

[arctic grove]

Hop on battlefield poetic

Im all alone in battlefield 😭

[wide shore]

What’re you playing

[arctic grove]

2042

[wide shore]

Well, ik that. I mean what mode

[hexed mango]

joe's mode

[wide shore]

Sheittt

[hexed mango]

ong

[arctic grove]

Rush XL only because im completing the weekly

[wide shore]

You son of a bitch I’m in

[arctic grove]

I need ammo and shotgun weekly

[next onyx]

Wonder if I can get to tier 85 before week 4.

[arctic grove]

awesome! ill finish this weekly tonight

[next onyx]

I just want that tier 100 Zain skin.

[white geyser]

Since the old weapons from the previous battlefield titles are in AOW and no 2042 attachment's, if they decide to add the old vehicles in AOW they should also add 2042 attachments from the old vehicles

[wide shore]

I’m still at Tier 53 lmao

[eager spire]

I am actually trying to check my claim there

[next onyx]

I'm at 82.

Wait nol

[eager spire]

but it is annoyingly hard to actually find ESL's rules list for BF4

because all the links for it are dead

[wide shore]

You truly are crazy

I hope you know

[hexed mango]

i havent played a lot in 2 weeks and im at 59

[wide shore]

I haven’t played like any the last 2 weeks.

I’ve done the weeklies last week. But haven’t finished them yet this week

I’m slacking.

[hexed mango]

i just cant play cause of how poor the optimization is

[next onyx]

I'll take the credit where it's due.

[hexed mango]

no way just has no life

[next onyx]

I'd love to play in the U.S or EU with little ping.

[hexed mango]

moderates 2 discord servers and spends 90% of his day on 2042

jkjk <3

[next onyx]

:)

[eager spire]

okay, so i can't find the official ESL BF4 rules. I can however find the rules for esport-battlefield, which i'm assuming are very similar.

https://esport-battlefield.com/ruleset-bf4-8v8/

[hexed mango]

Way, what do you do for a living? just curious...

[next onyx]

Not much at the moment.

I've been studying for the past 6 months.

[hexed mango]

how do you uh support yourself

[next onyx]

I live with my family and I cook them food.

[eager spire]

actually wait this isn't right.

...Fuck it hold on

[hexed mango]

nice

[next onyx]

I plan to work in food and hospitality.

[tepid agate]

How you study and have time to grind up so many T1👀🤯

[next onyx]

It's a funny industry.

I just do.

[arctic grove]

Tech industry fully remote is the strategy for grinding on 2043

[eager spire]

Okay, so this is gonna be a "trust me bro" moment because i've talked to people who know the ESL rules better than I do. I don't know if support was banned but I know for a fact all but 5 AR's and carbines were banned

[tepid agate]

You must be from a universe that has longer than 24 hour days

[eager spire]

I also know that Recon was not allowed.

[hexed mango]

what is ESL

[eager spire]

ESL ran the only official BF4 tournaments

[hexed mango]

why everyone talking about bf4 in 2042 channel nowadays

[plain needle]

Why isn’t it possible?

[eager spire]

at least as far as i know

[tepid agate]

Nostalgia

[eager spire]

because Way commented on it and I wanted to be sure i knew what i was talking about

[plain needle]

“It’s just not”

[eager spire]

Good question. Ask ESL.

Or rather don't because i don't think they remember at this point.

But yeah if you notice a lot of people running AEK in BF4, that's why.

AEK was one of the guns that wasn't banned.

the legal AR's were the M416, AEK, ACE23, M16A4, and AK12, legal carbines were the ACWR, ACE21, AK5C, M4, and AKU12.

[white geyser]

Mentioning BF4 in 2042 they could have add that game in the portal, but that's gonna take some time to do that

[eager spire]

apparently this only actually applied to 5v5 Dom so take that for what you will

[tepid agate]

Why you guys want so much old game content in 2042 I thought you'd want more 2042 stuff lol

[eager spire]

Also, Impact nades got banned.

[eager spire]

I don't care either way

[tepid agate]

Same

[eager spire]

i'm just talking cause it was brought up earlier.

[upbeat sand]

Gaaah I've been distracted by other games and I haven't been grinding my badge to t1

GASAAAAAA

[tepid agate]

What games you play

[eager spire]

I've been playing BF1 and random other games

[tepid agate]

Anyone done the mw2 raids? I will try later

[upbeat sand]

I've been playing

TOONTOWN

[next onyx]

You ok beans.

[tepid agate]

Don't know that

[eager spire]

I watched a whole gameplay video of the MW2 raid.

[hexed mango]

life

well... life plays me

[eager spire]

It looks very underwhelming

[tepid agate]

Plays is all

[upbeat sand]

I'm going to commit arson if I don't get my 123 t1

[next onyx]

He's not ok.

[hexed mango]

nobody is

[tepid agate]

I got to level 214 in mw2 after 167 hours the double xp works wonders 😆

[next onyx]

BAHHH I need to turn on XMP.

Cause bios update reset everything reeeeee.

[upbeat sand]

👏😘😢😝🤡 👔 🥳

[next onyx]

^Had a stroke.

Please slow down with the emotes.

[upbeat sand]

Give me my t1

[eager spire]

man's gonna get muted for emote spam

[arctic grove]

[upbeat sand]

I'll downsize this entire server

[white geyser]

I'm also level 118 but I'll do it tomorrow and go back to the portal to do some farming

[next onyx]

Downsize the server.

[eager spire]

i'll downsize you

[next onyx]

What do you mean by that.

[upbeat sand]

You're fired

[hexed mango]

ill size you

[arctic grove]

LOL

[next onyx]

Downsize me.

[upbeat sand]

I'll get the chainsaw consultant

[hexed mango]

no normal size you

tcm

[arctic grove]

cease.

[next onyx]

Yew chainsew cowonsuwtant?

[hexed mango]

no

[upbeat sand]

chainsaw consultant
noun
A consultant whose job is to assist in downsizing a workplace
Wiktionary, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License.
More at Wordnik

[hexed mango]

duckduckgo

[tepid agate]

Way how many things you have at T1?

[next onyx]

Run for your lives!

Uh.

[upbeat sand]

I'll downsize his badges to t2

[eager spire]

oh we'we doing this now? we'we weawwy doing this wight abouwt now? UwU

[next onyx]

Lemme do xmp first and then I'll count.

[tepid agate]

Go for it

[hexed mango]

bro what type of shit has gotten into people here

[upbeat sand]

I neeeeeeeeed my t1

[hexed mango]

people going crazy

[eager spire]

what do you mean

[upbeat sand]

You're fired

You;re fried

[hexed mango]

no im hired

[tepid agate]

I guess including specialists, probably have 10-20 things

[upbeat sand]

You're fired

[eager spire]

no u'we fiwed. i'm the ceo now.

[hexed mango]

[upbeat sand]

I'm the chairman

[next onyx]

I TURNED IT ON.

[hexed mango]

me*

[next onyx]

Huh?

[hexed mango]

[eager spire]

good fow u

[upbeat sand]

You're fired (just like activision' s lawsuits)

[hexed mango]

nope

[arctic grove]

Interesting conversation

[upbeat sand]

You're fired

[hexed mango]

interesting is one word for it

[arctic grove]

I'm the owner, bitch

[upbeat sand]

I'm the chairman

[hexed mango]

i am the joint chiefs of staff

[upbeat sand]

I own your entire company

I'm the chairman of TENCENT

[arctic grove]

Now we're talking

[eager spire]

i'm a freelancer

[next onyx]

You guys are fucked in the head.

We might want to calm it now.

[hexed mango]

hitcha with a "Evaluation of Operation Crossroads and the placement of nuclear armaments in warfare"

[eager spire]

AAAAA

[upbeat sand]

I'm leaving the company

I quit

[eager spire]

ok bye

[upbeat sand]

Praise to the one and only god Makay for my t1 season badge

*except I play Irish

[arctic grove]

2042 hype nostalgia moment

[upbeat sand]

Old

[arctic grove]

those cars are the best things ever

[hexed mango]

like you

[arctic grove]

Yeah

nothing will stop the c4 detonation station

[upbeat sand]

Make the taxis movable

The small auto taxis

That you can destroy

Have them roaming around like the stuff inside spearhead

[next onyx]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj_OaK5WAAA_HC8?format=jpg&name=medium

[hexed mango]

yep

[upbeat sand]

Fm8

[fringe spire]

God damn xm8

[upbeat sand]

You said bad word

You're fired

[next onyx]

Chalseu he's losing it.

[fringe spire]

I thought to myself : is there on the market, right now, a bullpup AR that combines the following characteristics ?

• reliable action
• good quality trigger feel
• solved the ejection issue without having to field strip to change the side
• good ergonomics
• access to the chamber for inspection
• locks open on an empty mag
• adjustable stock length / height

Very few bullpups have good factory triggers apart from the more recent MDRs

[eager spire]

Bullpup
Adjustable stock length

Good quality trigger feel

you're asking a lot from the concept of a bullpup mate

[fringe spire]

You can build in some adjustability

Ofc you can't make it a folding stock cuz the action is there

I mean I think it could be possible to have a foldable action but it's overengineering and probably compromising the reliability

[hexed mango]

is this... for irl?

[fringe spire]

But you can have some extensability with the lenght of pull for the butt plate & and an adjustable cheek piece

[fringe spire]

Ye I'm talking irl here xd

[hexed mango]

why are you asking here...

[fringe spire]

It's the bf2042 channel but I've seen people go gun nerd mode here so eh

[eager spire]

seems like more effort than it's worth.

[fringe spire]

Also there has been good triggers in bullpups

Either aftermarket

[eager spire]

The bullpup concept is interesting but it's not good.

[fringe spire]

Or the MDR X micron has a pretty good factory trigger

[fringe spire]

Why's it not good ?

The only unavoidable drawback from the concept is the different ergonomics / handling but that can be solved

Countries that adopted bullpups as service rifles (good ones anyway, hi great britain xd) and trained their infantry accordingly don't have an issue with it

While the compactness and generally improved balance has tactical advantages

[eager spire]

how many of them still actually run the bullpups they adopted, though.

[fringe spire]

Well who adopted them

France, but now we're transitioning to the Hk 416 though it's because the Famas was aging & the national production capability has substantially fallen

Austria still uses the Aug afaik ?

I'm not sure about the UK but the L86 isn't a very good bullpup

And idk who else adopted them

It's a shame that France is moving away from a national and proven design to a foreign one imo, at least it's from an EU member

[next onyx]

M416 bloody good rifle.

[fringe spire]

Yeah you take the proven ar15 / ar18 platform and run it through Hk's engineering, bound to be a banger tbh

[fringe spire]

China still uses the Norinco qbz95

And Israel still uses the tavor

The bullpup concept isn't doomed by design at all when executed properly

[arctic grove]

im on a work call rn discussing how we can advance technology to different departments, and my cat is fucking shit up behind me

shes not impressed

[fringe spire]

[next onyx]

Cat.

[fringe spire]

Another blow to the bullpup concept

When I transition frop software project management to small arms design, I'll show the world

I wonder what they'll do with the 3 million qbz95 they produced

[valid zenith]

Do SM want to play?

[pseudo pecan]

is there anything that can resupply nades and/or gadgets?

[next onyx]

Ammo box.

[valid zenith]

Do someone want to play who have Xbox one?

[idle lion]

I wonder how it will perform against the new xm rifle

Talking abt irl

[wide shore]

M240B was just shredding man

Thing is so good

[broken horizon]

agreed but definitely something is wrong with that recoil kick in general

https://youtu.be/2Ptu5QMxZpU?t=96 would be a great if they add this to 2042

[wide shore]

Maybe. But considering it hits really hard, and has a pretty good rof some kick should be expected

[broken horizon]

i guess so...

[magic bloom]

Frosty are you gonna be the one person who always used an LMG in metro or locker if they add those maps eventually

Because I will if they add either of those

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[scenic frost]

i guess Arabia will drop some dosh, or just scrap them and recycle

[pastel loom]

did someone say arabia

[fringe spire]

My guess would be the african continent

China invests a lot and tries to make sure it's got allies there

Equipping them with small arms can consolidate a regime that is favorable to China

[carmine mulch]

M249 with suppressor, FLIR, and smokes before the thermal nerf

[scenic frost]

Deestabilizing an alteady inestable region xD

[carmine mulch]

I am not proud to say that I was a gremlin who did that back in the BF4 days

[scenic frost]

Freedom

[scenic frost]

I did that with DMRs

[fringe spire]

Thermal ?

A sight that let you see through smokes?

[carmine mulch]

Thermal/IR sights used to be able to see through smokes in BF4

[fringe spire]

Ah

Good old bangalore + digi threat duo

[carmine mulch]

kinda like that, yeah

[fringe spire]

Assault looks like Apex logo

[magic bloom]

Except this was worse

[inner roost]

Didn't BF4 have IR smoke or something that prevented locking?

[fringe spire]

Probably yea considering Apex slow ttk

[carmine mulch]

IR smoke countermeasures were for vehicles

2042 has it as well

[fringe spire]

Can someone explain the SOFLAM to me

I read it allowed use of the AA missile on ground vehicles

[inner roost]

It's a target designator

[carmine mulch]

^

[fringe spire]

And it would make m5 recoilless guided ?

[inner roost]

Yes

[carmine mulch]

mhmm

[inner roost]

It's a really strong gadget if everyone is running Recoilless

[arctic grove]

Just mark vehicles with SOFLAM

[fringe spire]

Like what does it do apart from showing everyone there's a vehicle somewhere

[inner roost]

It lets you lock on with a rocket launcher

To any vehicle

[magic bloom]

You can also spot normal soldiers

[arctic grove]

That's all it does

[inner roost]

Yeah it can be used as a spotting gadget too, which it's quite good at

[fringe spire]

So I can use the AA missile on any vehicle, and lock on any vehicle with recoilless

[magic bloom]

It also makes lock on faster for vehicles I do believe

[fringe spire]

Correcr ?

[inner roost]

Not the AA Missile

Only the Recoilless M5

[fringe spire]

Ah so just all recoilless and soflams basically

[inner roost]

Yeah

[fringe spire]

That's very interesting

I'll give it a try when playing with friends

[magic bloom]

Recoilless does way more damage than stingers as well

[fringe spire]

When I am solo or not a full squad I just play Lis

[magic bloom]

Even having one person on your team painting targets with the soflam is really nice

[fringe spire]

Yeah

I think our team should have

One soflam one recoilless

[next onyx]

It paints targets that gives rockets a reference to hit.,

[fringe spire]

Perhaps 2

And one med box

[magic bloom]

I always try to use one if I’m not doing something specific

[inner roost]

Get someone to play Rao with the Soflam

That's the strongest combo you can do

[magic bloom]

That’s just hell on earth to any aircraft even tanks to a certain degree

[inner roost]

Yep, it's completely fucked, I've been on receiving end of it and it will annoy the crap out of you

[fringe spire]

Why ?

Spot -> hack -> easy kill ?

[magic bloom]

Because a rao hack disables their countermeasures

If it fully goes through before they activate them that is

[fringe spire]

Nice

I'll try that

[magic bloom]

If they hit it before the hack completes the countermeasures still launch

[fringe spire]

A good vehicle is a dead vehicle

[carmine mulch]

Rao + soflam + recoiless is a deadly combo against air yeah

[fringe spire]

😎

How long does a target remain designated by soflam

[magic bloom]

I think a second or two after you paint them with it but it stays as long as you hold it on them before they fire their countermeasures

[inner roost]

It stays longer than 1 to 2 seconds in my experience

[magic bloom]

I think it depends on the vehicle too

[pallid fractal]

can someone recommend me a map/ mode where i can practice my helicopter skills ?

[fluid portal]

what actually is the accuracy stat?

[magic bloom]

Hour glass

Hardly any cover at some obj’s

Maybe exposure as well

[pallid fractal]

ok ty but are there custom modes without cooldown 😅

[magic bloom]

Well what helicopter are you trying to use

[next onyx]

Bullets that you hit and miss.

Ih wait.

Wait.

Accuracy is of the weapons spread.

Control is of the weapons recoil.

[fluid portal]

aight i see

tyty

[next onyx]

Ye.

Good to see you here by the way.

[fluid portal]

yeah im just not hugely active

[pallid fractal]

scout

[next onyx]

Yeah I understand.

[magic bloom]

I’d say either wait for the official air superiority on portal or try and find a custom server

[pallid fractal]

ok thx

[magic bloom]

Since the little bird and night bird aren’t to hugely different in terms of handling

No problem

[next onyx]

[pine roost]

The Scout from bf4 and nightbird handle completely differently. Unless you mean the portal versions

[magic bloom]

Yes

I mean the portal version

[pine roost]

Aight

[magic bloom]

The nightbird felt clunky to me first time I flew it

[pine roost]

Screen centre firing makes it far more consistent, I’m surprised just how many things portal changes mechanics wise that the base game doesn’t have

[magic bloom]

Honestly though it’s crazy

[fluid portal]

i s2g with every copy of this game on console they get a complimentary tube of superglue to stick their balls to the floor in game

[magic bloom]

Your not wrong to many console players don’t know how to play the game

[fluid portal]

this

[magic bloom]

This coming from one so fight me about it

[pine roost]

I love how the a10 has not only a completely different flight model, but actually fixes some of the BUGS that are present in the base jets

Would be nice if the portal team gave em a little nudge and apply those bug fixes to the base jets

[inner roost]

Why is A10 not in AOW yet seriously

[magic bloom]

Doesn’t the A10 follow the 313 speed?

[pine roost]

It does

But not only that, but it has a functional rear cam, much tighter pitching as well as a third person camera roll toggle that works

All of which the base jets lack

[magic bloom]

But honestly your discord name is gospel pls unfuck the helicopters

[inner roost]

Since it's on gamepass / free for PlayStation rn, you're going to run into a lot of casual, bad players

[pine roost]

So you experience it too

[magic bloom]

The magnet

[pine roost]

Worked fine before season 1

Now I’m constantly adjusting my mouse just to simply stay at the angle I’m banked at

[magic bloom]

I think that’s where console has it a bit easier

But it’s still awful

[pine roost]

And is one reason why I think it’s still in the game

[fluid portal]

yeah

im thankful the playerbase is growing but doesnt make in any less annoying to play against rats

[magic bloom]

What are objective ribbons again I’m having a moment…

[pine roost]

I don’t know if anyone on the team flies helis often, let alone with mouse and keyboard. So it’s probably gone unnoticed

[magic bloom]

I know for sure the magnet is real

[fluid portal]

why do so many people in this game have the awareness of a hammock

[magic bloom]

Like bro I looked away for five second and now my helicopter is hurdling towards the ground faster than the SU-57 at full afterburner

[pine roost]

But I’m staying persistent with my bug reports every season. Fix that and I’ll have a whale of a time

I feel like they added it to try and make helis less likely to crash. While I do not mind the concept of flight assist, when it’s off it shouldn’t do anything that you haven’t directly inputted. It’s like traction control

[arctic grove]

Hi

[pine roost]

Turning it on just raises the strength of the assist, so the off setting doesn’t actually turn it off. And I guarantee the ground magnet is also due to this

[magic bloom]

I CAN TURN IT OFF

[pine roost]

Console players seem to be able to

Pc on the other hand can’t

Plus you have the benefit of a proper stick which could potentially counteract the effect

[magic bloom]

Nevermind it was already off

[fluid portal]

ngl the one shroud clip has ignited my AM 40 addiction

[pine roost]

Mines been off since launch but season 1 utterly broke it

[patent lion]

matchmaking for breakthrough on ps5 is still fucked

when will it be fixed?

[pine roost]

As I’ve said before that, alongside the new vehicle changes that have been announced, would be the only changes needed to make me interested in getting into the game again

[magic bloom]

I still want them to make the scout helicopter a separate category

[pine roost]

And I really need something to play right now. I’m literally playing Genshin with my sister more than anything else because I’m so unmotivated

[magic bloom]

Or maybe put it where the jeeps are

[fluid portal]

what is friday night battlefield?

[magic bloom]

Team fortress 2

[magic bloom]

Pretty sure we just get to fuck around with the devs

[pine roost]

If it didn’t have rockets I’d agree, but those make it a very effective infantry and light vehicle killer

[magic bloom]

And it’s a special playlist only on Fridays

[pine roost]

Worthy of the attack title

[magic bloom]

I MENTION THR MAGNET AND IT GETS WORSE

[fluid portal]

so i can potentially dumpster the mf that thought the Rorsch would be a good idea

[magic bloom]

Idk

[pine roost]

I don’t get why the magnet needs to exist in all honesty

[magic bloom]

The nightbird has literally no power

[pine roost]

You can tell when you get below a certain altitude that it’ll pull you down, and I don’t know why it needs to happen

Granted they did reduce its strength significantly last patch, it still exists in numerous cases

[magic bloom]

This is why I’m gonna play the MAV

Only vehicle I haven’t really experienced it on is the Apache warchief

[pine roost]

I’ve just always preferred the nightbird

Rewards precision, is fast but has little armour

[magic bloom]

If the Apache was stronger in terms of not sucking I would main it instead

The Ka-52 is just better since it can have a 30mm cannon for the pilot to use

[pine roost]

If it’s missiles were more consistent in terms of accuracy I’d enjoy it more

[magic bloom]

I still don’t see why attack helicopters and the scout are in the same category

They’re used for different things

[idle lion]

tetzado is sus

[pine roost]

One thing that would be a neat QOL thing would be to add the icon of the vehicle that would be on the map next to the vehicle on the spawn screen, similar to Squad

[amber gale]

Shroud batchest

[fluid portal]

what

[magic bloom]

What

[edgy oriole]

What

[magic bloom]

[royal ivy]

When a stealth helicopter is in stealth Mode, it cant get locked with missles/rockets right ?

[arctic grove]

battlefield 2042 keeps crashing, 3090ti 13900k i9

[slender isle]

Verify your game files, if nothing comes up tell us what happens when you crash. But verify them first

[magic bloom]

No it can’t

[arctic grove]

is there supposed to be a config file in bf2042? cuz i cant find mine ANYWHERE

if yes do i have to reinstall?

[slender isle]

I'm not 100% sure. If you're files are all verified and they come out saying "you're all good" then you should be fine

[shy latch]

the config file (if you mean the one with almost all settings) is located under the documents folder

[granite island]

Manifest 64p breakthrough layout looking goofy

[shy latch]

I still don't like the rework on Manifest 😔

[pearl ridge]

Ya know, it’s kinda hard to do the squad revive objective if it doesn’t put me on a squad

[shy latch]

that's a sad thing

[grave prism]

i miss the old A1 i think, maybe E1 objective on manifest in the middle of the containers, now it's just in a shitty building:(

[shy latch]

I miss the old B sector 😔

the building in the middle wasn't bad

[pearl ridge]

Entirely fuck Rams

Little fucks even get APS now.

They’re already hard enough to hit before they get the ability to ignore what few rockets find them.

Just one with a dedicated gunner can ruin an entire server.

Also why isn’t my mic registering, I have voice comms turned on

CAN I GET ANYTHING BUT NORSHAR CANALS

Fuck man it’s literally the worst portal map.

[magic bloom]

The ram is pretty fun

[pine roost]

Couldn't get to my first lecture because of train delays. The teacher for the second one is ill and the third just got cancelled. A morning well spent

[magic bloom]

How unfortunate

[shy latch]

nah, Noshar isn't the worst portal maps

1942 maps (can't remember the name) are the worsts

[magic bloom]

Because the game doesn’t have voice chat

[shy latch]

they are like Hourglass right now: too open and too big

[shy latch]

it has voip

[pine roost]

desert map go ___ _____ ___

[magic bloom]

Since when

[pine roost]

a while ago

[shy latch]

can't remember exactly, beginning of 2022 by the way

maybe February or March

[magic bloom]

Damn

[pearl ridge]

The gvt seems to be working better somehow

I think the bullet velocity was bumped up.

[pine roost]

i miss the companion app

[lapis jacinth]

Yo, is it still possible to unlock the aek from portal?

[shy latch]

do you mean to use it in AOW?

[lapis jacinth]

Yup

[shy latch]

then the answer is no

[lapis jacinth]

Oh

That's sad

[shy latch]

I don't know when and if it'll be implemented

[lapis jacinth]

Okay, thanks for answering dude

[pine roost]

you can't get it anymore?

[shy latch]

np 👌

AEK was never imported to AOW

[pine roost]

oh it's not a vault weapon

[shy latch]

nope

[pine roost]

ah

[shy latch]

but again, I don't know if it'll be imported, maybe yes or maybe not, who know (DICE apart) 🤷

[idle lion]

rems needs to get a little time out from the game so he can leave his moms basement and touch some fucking grass

This fucker plays like hes someone who doesnt have anyone in his life, has no job and has no outside life

And idc that this is toxic, because its correct.

[ruby ledge]

These names😂

[lilac dust]

Manifest is the most disappointing rework they've done by far IMO. They could've easily chopped off some of the map to make room on their asset count to keep all the buildings and still be able to add all the extra cover

We went from like at least 5 or 6 fully fledged buildings to one single building just so they could add extra cover to a map that didn't desperately need it 😦

[eager pond]

Sounds like a win

[clever marlin]

So fun fact: battlefield 2042 is a dx11 game by default

[uncut bay]

that's a placebo someone made up and let the entire community run off with

it's a dx12 game

[clever marlin]

Wait what?

[shy latch]

yeah exactly, i don't say that Manifest didn't need a retouch but surely didn't need those deep modifications

[hallow sierra]

well to be fair it didnt really need a rework to begin with

[clever marlin]

Manifest was fine tbh

The map that needs it the most is hourglass

The map is too big and too spread out

[hallow sierra]

we still have maps like hourglass that still plays like shit

[clever marlin]

The only thing about hourglass is the sandstorm

[shy latch]

yup, I bet hourglass will come with patch 4.2

[clever marlin]

Nah. Likely 4.1

[shy latch]

mmh, I guess 4.1 will have Discarded rework

[hallow sierra]

not to mention that if a tornado hits the map all the cover are gone

[clever marlin]

I’d love to see a blizzard event in the breakaway remake

[lilac dust]

If breakaway is any indication then we can probably be rest assured that the stadium will be moved much closer to the city and it may be a banger of a map 👌

[clever marlin]

It’s unlikely to happen but

[shy latch]

I wanted fire event for this S3 map 😭

[hallow sierra]

all i want for breakaway is a1 being replaced

[idle lion]

I read that in the all i want for christmas is you beat

[magic bloom]

I Wonder If well get the Christmas background and stuff again

[limpid pond]

They released the breakaway revamp?

[arctic grove]

No

[limpid pond]

L

[iron galleon]

Hey, i got an idea, will be good, in your opinion, if you have smoke, granades etc to use them when drowned? Not throwing them, but just use in place, like use a smoke to get revived or a grenade to to blow up some enemy walking on you, the smoke one will be like the smoke perk on bf1

this will make people wait for revive or tactical suicide

[magic bloom]

You can sort of do that now if you go to throw a grenade and get shot it drops to the floor next to you

[eager pond]

I want to tactical suicide irl

[iron galleon]

please, no, we are already few playng bf, we need all the help to fullfill a server

[eager pond]

All about the bot lobby

[magic bloom]

Wasn’t even concerned for his health just wanted the spot filled

[eager pond]

I enjoy the bot lobby it reminds me of Star Wars battlefront 2 from 2005

[eager pond]

As they should. It’s the player count that matters, not the player condition

[magic bloom]

Ong

[iron galleon]

come on, if i said something like "don't do it, the world need you" is better? We need you on the battlefiled! XD

[eager pond]

We don’t need a lie I agree

[magic bloom]

“put the gun down son the team needs you”

[eager pond]

Is the ACW-R good? Can I flex it in my date?

[magic bloom]

No

It sucks

[eager pond]

I will not tell her I unlocked it then

[magic bloom]

I’d rather kill people my throwing a dummy frag at them

i would rather use the crossbow with the arrow rack

[eager pond]

Which gun should I unlock so she takes me home with her

[magic bloom]

Def the 240

[arctic grove]

I just found out today that M5 Recoilless' back blast can kill

[magic bloom]

That’s my favorite way to troll camping snipers

[eager pond]

Lol

[magic bloom]

Hit their ass with one then tbag them as I attempt to rocket jump with a recoilless M5 like I’m soldier from TF2

[arctic grove]

I saw a similar clip today lol

[eager pond]

Trolling?

[magic bloom]

Add rocket jumping to battlefield pls dice

[arctic grove]

True chaos

[magic bloom]

Yes.

And bring back C4 launching so I can launch our teams camping railgun tank into the enemy spawn to see if he still wants to camp

[fringe spire]

you can see detailed stats about weapons on sym.gg

it's partly outdated but gives you a good idea of how guns behave

instead of arbitrary numbers that are barely good enough for a ballpark estimate

[magic bloom]

This is all I have to say

[eager pond]

Tactical

[median tusk]

I love it when other players get along with the joke

[tropic granite]

honestly that would be amazing

[tropic granite]

hmm thats cool

[magic bloom]

does anyone got an tips on the MAV

[tropic granite]

do all the portal guns suck because that's the vibe i've been getting on every single one except the GOL Magnum

[magic bloom]

The M416 is a literal laser beam

p90 is decent

[ruby ledge]

To level up the mag, just drive around in the offline version of Battlefield

[tropic granite]

k

[pastel loom]

a day until the ps trial
i haven't got to play the game before

[median tusk]

Its recoil is pretty minimal but i don't like the bloom type of spray it has on it

[median tusk]

Noice, i've played since beta day 1 let me tell you it is miles ahead of where it used to be

[magic bloom]

Yeah ask us questions if you need

Most of us are pretty well experienced

[eager pond]

Yes some maps actually load now instead of crashing ur game

[pastel loom]

appreciate it you all

i still only have a ps4 but it's better than nothing

[magic bloom]

Sheesh have fun with that

[lilac dust]

We cannot be held responsible if your PS4 explodes in a future battlefield update

[magic bloom]

Yeah

It’s probably gonna turn into a helicopter

Bro base commander angel is drippy as fuck

[median tusk]

fr

[magic bloom]

Same with red specter for Rao

[median tusk]

remember santa boris

dark times

[magic bloom]

I don’t have him since I didn’t play around Christmas time

[lilac dust]

Uhhh pretty sure nobody has him lol

[magic bloom]

Oh

Thought he had an actual Santa skin

[lilac dust]

DICE bailed on that idea when community response was bad

[median tusk]

they got harassed so hard that they scrapped it

[magic bloom]

Damn

Maybe we will get it this year

[median tusk]

i hope not

im fine with the direction it has right now

[tropic granite]

is that the one with the beret that was in s2?

[magic bloom]

Honestly what is you alls favorite tier 1 weapon skin

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[tropic granite]

yea i wish i got him

unfortunately school started and such so i didn't really play s2

i made it far enough to get the avancys

[ebon pilot]

I really like the M5A3 T1. But I have so many legendary skins for it it's hard to pick what I should use

[magic bloom]

I cant Even equip the skin that came in the season event last season

[median tusk]

damn

[shy latch]

damn, I just realize that tomorrow will start the free week for PlayStation users

I need to prepare myself to lose due to noob campers

[magic bloom]

Gonna half to spend half the match waiting to get revived

[median tusk]

I hate the people that play falck without playing their actual role as support

[magic bloom]

Fr

[tropic granite]

as an angel main i try my best

[median tusk]

i swear i've seen people play angel far better

[tropic granite]

i revive people a lot

[ancient peak]

They just use falck to heal themselves

[tropic granite]

angel is honestly a way better support than falck cause you can be a medic and an ammo supplier

[magic bloom]

Nah bro you get those angels who will run through half the enemy team to revive you I swear (because I’m one of them)

[median tusk]

respect

[tropic granite]

same

[magic bloom]

Ultimate definition of “help is on the way dear”

[tropic granite]

also sometimes i just run angel with smoke grenades and smoke launcher for that purpose

[fringe spire]

Yeah Falck is just the medic-est medic

[magic bloom]

You must not have seen it my smoke load out

[fringe spire]

Revives you to full health in the blink of an eye and heals you with her pistol

[magic bloom]

Smoke underbarrel, smoke grenade launcher gadget and smoke nades

[median tusk]

you seem to like smoke a lot

[fringe spire]

Mp28 is good ? It always takes forever to pull out for me

[fringe spire]

Smoke revives are nice

[magic bloom]

I use it cause it’s a mini VCAR

[tropic granite]

falcks are either ok or just literally never revive you

the ones that don't are usually snipers

[magic bloom]

Plus you don’t have to wait for the stock to fold out if that’s what your talking about

[fringe spire]

Yeah some people play Falck to have a spammable self heal xd

[fringe spire]

Is it just cosmetic and I can fire before that ?

It delays ADS still doesn't it

[magic bloom]

You can fire as soon as he brings the gun up doesn’t delay the ads

[median tusk]

then they trash talk on the chat that their team lost

[shy latch]

fun fact is when you die and the place become safe but medics (either Falck, Angel or Crawford) just pass on your body without reviving

[tropic granite]

nah bro angels are always the ones reviving

falcks are busy sniping and crawford is... idk

[shy latch]

not really on my experience

[tropic granite]

damn

[magic bloom]

Honestly I don’t blame Crawfords for not reviving cause he shouldn’t be a support in the first place

Which is why I’m glad he’s becoming an engineer

[tropic granite]

is someone else becoming support?

or is it gonna be stuck at 2

[shy latch]

yeah but right now he's still a support

[chilly jacinth]

irish

[magic bloom]

Irish is taking crawfords place

[tropic granite]

oh

hmm

weird but ok

[shy latch]

so if now you are Crawford, the place is safe and there is a dead player close to you, why don't you spend half second of your gaming life to revive?

[chilly jacinth]

impossible

[shy latch]

that's what I don't understand

[magic bloom]

A lot do it because people like to steal their mounted gun

[low timber]

People don’t like xp

[chilly jacinth]

useful teammates arent a thing

[shy latch]

yeah, mostly just think about kills because they have to have high kd....

[fluid portal]

bro why does enabling ADS FOV just negate all recoil

[shy latch]

damn kd, I still prefer the original scoreboard because no one were able to look any others kill/death (except for squadmates)

[next onyx]

Ads fov makes you less likely to over compensate.

[magic bloom]

Cranks my ADS FOV

[ruby ledge]

Damn

[next onyx]

Makes it difficult to see at longer ranges if your fov is more than 89 in my experience.

[magic bloom]

I Love when my AA missile relocks the enemy heli

Ultimate go fuck yourself right there

[median tusk]

high fov is sometimes overrated

[magic bloom]

I Play on Stock

[median tusk]

more performance drawbacks for a few more inches of sight panorama

[next onyx]

I used to run 105 on bf5.

[shy latch]

well but FOV depends on your monitor size

[chilly jacinth]

i feel sick at the default fov

[magic bloom]

A 32 inch TV.

[shy latch]

I mean, if you play from a laptop with a 16" monitor you going to have a very difficult moments to play at maximum fov

[ebon pilot]

FOV depends on how much a screen covers your personal FOV

You want the screen to act as a literal window into the game world

So it's mostly based on how close you are to the screen

[shy latch]

yeah of course is something personal, but for small monitors isn't advice to have higher fov for obvious reasons

and as you said distance as well of course

[night ginkgo]

when season 4 comes out?

[arctic grove]

In 6 weeks or smth

[clever marlin]

Legion 5 pro?

[shy latch]

I saw some Twitch streamer having their faces on monitor and their hand (the one with the mouse) behind the monitor, isn't that bad for the eyes?

[shy latch]

what's that?

[clever marlin]

Nevermind

So I’ve been trying to fix my friends pc using 100% of the cpu and like 10% of the gpu

But the issue is that the game runs at 40fps

[shy latch]

of course, in that case the CPU is bottle-necked 😅

[next onyx]

That's normal for this game.

[pearl ridge]

If Irish is becoming a medic, I'm guessing his gimmick will be providing armour to those he revives

[next onyx]

Cpu is being absolutely strangled.

No.

He's getting crawfords passive.

Which resupplies gadget ammo.

[clever marlin]

I fixed my issue with the user.cfg file and for me it worked but not for him

[pearl ridge]

The fact that there's no mechanic for providing armour to others is just weird.

[shy latch]

User.cfg doesn't work for me either

[clever marlin]

Though I suspect that the .cfg file could be a Rysen fix

[pearl ridge]

It's such a self-serving mechanic.

[magic bloom]

Angel used to have it

[next onyx]

Would rather armour in its current state to not be common again.

Cancer.

[magic bloom]

Yeah armor is just…

I’ve put 3 shells of buckshot into a man and he just took it

[low timber]

If it was MSC you would still need 3 buckshots without them having armor

[clever marlin]

Does anyone have the ability to revive someone and give them armor?

[magic bloom]

[clever marlin]

MCs is just

Embarrassing

[magic bloom]

No one gives armor on revive anymore

[shy latch]

why did you try to use 100% of cpu and only 10% of gpu with your friend tho? in this case you should increase the graphic usage to get better performance (and better fps)

[clever marlin]

Here’s the thing

Increasing the settings LOWERS frames

Not increases them

[shy latch]

yes but no

there must be an equilibrium between the cpu and gpu

overusage of one of those will have the contrary effect

[clever marlin]

So you think increaseing the settings might fix it?

[ebon pilot]

Mine is under my monitor, but that's because it's a super-ultrawide that takes up my whole field of view

[pine roost]

Strangely enough that is how it works

I’ve experienced that In pubg

[clever marlin]

The increasing settings thing?

[pine roost]

Yeah

[clever marlin]

That makes no sense whatsoever

[shy latch]

yes, because the cpu is asking to create frames while processing other things but the graphic card is doing almost nothing

[pine roost]

Gpu usage was nowhere to be seen. Raised some settings and it felt far more consistent

[clever marlin]

Alright, I’ll tell him to do that

I’ve tried pretty much everything

Delete cache

Everything at low

Dx12

[pine roost]

I joined in late, what’s going on exactly?

[shy latch]

what's your friend specs?

[ebon pilot]

Alternatively the CPU is throttling the whole graphics pipeline because it's just bad

[clever marlin]

9900k, 2070 super, 32gb ram, ssd (I don’t know the size)

I tried to disable some cpu cores in the task manager but it won’t let us

I wonder if it’s a hyper threading thing

[ebon pilot]

it's not

[clever marlin]

I know in some games hyperthreading impacts performance pretty bad

[ebon pilot]

that'd be pretty stupid if it were true

[pine roost]

It can do, sometimes it’s good sometimes it’s bad

[remote kiln]

you can't turn off threads

they are exclusive to processes

[clever marlin]

It was a massive issue on one of my modded Minecraft worlds

[clever marlin]

I know that

[shy latch]

2070S should be good enough to manage everything on medium/medium-high, just ask to you friend to increase graphics and try

[remote kiln]

then why would you try turning it off lol

[pine roost]

In fact we covered hyperthreading not long ago at uni

[clever marlin]

Because I figured that disabling it might fix something

[remote kiln]

..

[clever marlin]

Also should DLSS be set to balanced

[remote kiln]

it isn't going to fix anything, just make it worse

[next onyx]

I was literally just thinking about asking that stop reading my damn mind!

[remote kiln]

you've been reading too much false information, you can't switch off DX12 in 2042

[ebon pilot]

disabling hyperthreading literally gives the OS less processors to assign work to

[remote kiln]

the user.cfg file does nothing

[next onyx]

How does hyper threading work?? It allowed me to hit higher frames than I should on open rct. From 60 locked to 144 locked.

[remote kiln]

HT schedules threads automatically via the OS

[next onyx]

It feels as if it allows the game to utilise my cpu more.

[remote kiln]

CPPC will allocate which games are bound to each thread

[next onyx]

Ye.

[remote kiln]

there's no difference in practicality

one core is split into 2 independent virtual cores

[ebon pilot]

"logical" cores

it's a real physical thing on the die

[remote kiln]

not logical cores, those exist

they are ALUs

the hypervisor simply commands the timing rate between the virtual threads to be synchronised on one core

[silk surge]

Man, why are people on Reddit so fucking salty about vehicles? That's like a massive part of what Battlefield is.

[remote kiln]

since when has Reddit never had bad opinions

[magic bloom]

^

[clever marlin]

They are no longer one man armies that’s why

[silk surge]

DICE could release a specialist that can destroy helis with their minds and Reddit would be like "good, fuck vehicles"

[devout flare]

They need somthing to blame theor horrible kd on

And theu are allergic to running a recoiless

[clever marlin]

It’s a very team oriented vehicular combat game

[devout flare]

I wouldn't even say that.. more infantry players need to run a recoiless. Vehicles would melt

[magic bloom]

They all run Mackay or Sundance try and roast people in chat and then expect others to pick up their slack

[remote kiln]

so you mean lis

[silk surge]

Everyone and their dogs have recoiless.

[clever marlin]

Nah, I’m a falck main 😛

[magic bloom]

Casper mains >

[next onyx]

Zain main!

[devout flare]

Meanwhile I play nothing but falk with a recoiless and game feels like a breeze

[clever marlin]

Casper is underrated

[next onyx]

Can't stop me from abusing preserverance and his xm370!

[magic bloom]

+10 social credit

[silk surge]

Ya'll would skin me alive if I told you which specialist I'm maining.

[next onyx]

Boris?

[magic bloom]

Dozer

[devout flare]

Roa

[ebon pilot]

It's Liz

[silk surge]

Mackay

[magic bloom]

tryhard

[ebon pilot]

smh

[next onyx]

That's not that bad.

The true question Henry

What mastery are you up to for him?

[magic bloom]

Even though Canadian spider man was my first tier 1

[silk surge]

Like 500ish

[magic bloom]

Jesus Christ

[next onyx]

Not as bad as me but that's pretty high!

[magic bloom]

Way I’m scared to ask what you are

[silk surge]

Yeah, but I also have 1050 hours logged.

[clever marlin]

I’m barely at 94 level

😆

[next onyx]

I'm mastery 822 for Mackay.

[silk surge]

Damn

[clever marlin]

Jesus Christ

[ebon pilot]

jeezus

[next onyx]

50K kills on his record overall.

[devout flare]

Mackay is good... but it's so selfish... I don't need his mobility to get kills so I just run falk and I can pick up teammates..

Can also heal myself without ha ING to waste a gadget spot so I can still run recoiless

[magic bloom]

Way done fucking tier 20’d Mackay

[pine roost]

Recoiless has so much range, people hardly ever utilise that

[silk surge]

I'm at 30k kills /w Mackay

[magic bloom]

My highest mastery is 100 on Irish

[silk surge]

Irish is a pretty tough mastery to get

[next onyx]

Ever since zain came out I've been running him because his passive is worth playing for.

[ebon pilot]

yeah people just don't realize the ranges on the recoilless scope are actually accurate

[next onyx]

I can heal after a kill this is massive and the utility of his xm370 pushes it even further for me.

[silk surge]

Yeah, Zain's passive is . No longer have to run with medpack when solo queueing.

[devout flare]

It's ok... but I don't care for his ability much

[remote kiln]

"worth playing for"
you mean the best passive in the game

[magic bloom]

I know why people use Zain I tried him today and dropped like 70 kills with just his airburst alone

[pine roost]

A wildcat camping at the back of the map? Recoilless.

[next onyx]

@devout flare

[magic bloom]

At least it’s not a railgun tank

[next onyx]

Nimble I'd argue is still up there but this one has its use.

[silk surge]

I feel like Zain's XM370 is extremely situational in Conquest. I generally don't run into situations where it's particularly useful.

[pine roost]

I don’t get why the railgun tank spots enemies that damage it

[magic bloom]

I’d say they’re both good in their own situations

[next onyx]

Yeah in conquest it's a bit more niche.

[remote kiln]

cause it's shit against infantry

[ebon pilot]

its smurt

[next onyx]

I use it to finish people who run behind containers and into a window where I see people.

Then you get a four man multi kill.

[silk surge]

But you wanna know a really broken loadout, Way?

[next onyx]

Oh yeah?

Lemme hear.

[silk surge]

Dozer with the new shotgun.

[magic bloom]

Railgun tank go “booooo womp”

[pine roost]

I usually just paint the ground with it, get to cover and abuse it’s insane aoe and get kills while behind cover

[clever marlin]

Idk what to think about the new shotgun

It reminds me of the DAO from 4

[magic bloom]

I Love the new shotgun it feels like how a shotgun should

[clever marlin]

Good rate of fire but slow to reload

[next onyx]

My friend abused dozer and the 12m at the release for stranded, so when he used his VPN to go to America he made a few streamers lose their shit.

[silk surge]

It's such a memey setup. You close the gap with the shield so efficiently.

[next onyx]

Yeah the long reload and all. It's pretty much a dp14.

But in Alex words.

[remote kiln]

the TOR is good until there's a guy flying a stealth heli outside the gun turret range of the tank

aka every damn time