#battlefield-2042

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idle lion
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Hm interesting and probably best take on it ive seen so far

hexed mango
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šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘ˆ are you ignoring me bodie

next onyx
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You can thank Pokemon for my ability to see things in such a way.

next onyx
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What do you want!?

hexed mango
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to say hi

next onyx
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hi

hexed mango
arctic grove
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Do you have tits @next onyx

hexed mango
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what

idle lion
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Ive lost the confidence to win firefights ever since i moved from eu to oce

next onyx
idle lion
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Since even bots beat my ass now

next onyx
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Wait you're in OCE now?

arctic grove
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Bro was really thinking of a response

next onyx
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I was in another chat.

idle lion
arctic grove
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He was thinking if he should lie ab being a female

idle lion
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I moved to Sydney

arctic grove
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Bro was weighing the odds

next onyx
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Welcome to this shit region.

kindred flint
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you got high speed internet yet?

next onyx
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You'll experience just OCE things here.

idle lion
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Good to see that it ezists

next onyx
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Not that I know, Bmac.

idle lion
kindred flint
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conflicting reports

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one lies...one tells the truth

arctic grove
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How many of your fuckers are watching chat waiting for me

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Show yourself demons

kindred flint
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im going to write all this information down with sharpie on my hands to remind myself

idle lion
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Wby @next onyx

next onyx
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Nice.

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It would make sense that you would get those speeds over there.

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I'm in a quiet part of the hills and I only get 50 MBS.

idle lion
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I live in a newly constructed part of the hills and yet weirdly i still get good nry

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Net

next onyx
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That's not really weird it actually makes sense.

eager spire
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yeah, newly constructed means new wiring and shit.

idle lion
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Fair enough

kindred flint
next onyx
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By the way Silver. The m416 is actually kind of good despite being a 5HK min.

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Because with a heavy barrel it extends out to 74m.

kindred flint
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i was getting bodied by close range scars earlier LUL

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fucking nerf that close range damage dice

eager spire
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fair enough.

next onyx
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It kills slower than other weapons at close range.

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300 MS TTK is kinda on the medium end.

eager spire
hexed mango
next onyx
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The m5a3 with short barrel and the m16a3 kill in 270 MS close up.

idle lion
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Also i just realized what that weird dude asked way earlier. Discord users 🤦

kindred flint
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every time way hits us in chat with them MS measurements, we get a dose of "akshually" LULW

next onyx
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HNJDKSNALDNHSA

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IT'S A THING IN MY HEAD.

kindred flint
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stop shilling SB m5 though...stop trying to be a cool streamer

next onyx
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The PBX, VCAR, 12m and S22 are the fastest killing guns in the game close up at 200 MS.

idle lion
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Way malding for 5 min straight

next onyx
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With the correct attachments mind you.

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And then!

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And then!

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The thingie kills within 250 MS and all of that ! :DDDDD

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

idle lion
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"Thanks for coming to my ted talk"

kindred flint
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so when you remove factory barrel option and go for a compensator....do you just remove the factory barrel from your gun? ThinkEyes

idle lion
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šŸ’€

next onyx
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Brain hurt.

idle lion
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Bros just firing the bullets through a 30cm compensator

kindred flint
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the ||chode|| gun

idle lion
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Custom skins on guns lmao

hexed mango
eager spire
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oh boy my headphones are starting to do the thing where if i move my head or jostle the cable a bit it gets static-y. That's annoying. :I

upbeat sand
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The k30 s1 skin yes

hexed mango
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that was a goated skin

upbeat sand
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Why are you nitroed ice

idle lion
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@next onyx how do you guys survive new years

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Holy shit its so hot

next onyx
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We just do.

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Lots of cold drinks.

idle lion
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Ac?

next onyx
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That too but lots of cold drinks.

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Our houses are built for the warm weather.

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With airflow in mind.

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Turn on some fans, Open your windows.

idle lion
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Smart

upbeat sand
arctic grove
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I hear you about the M416. Been using it most of the time in Battlefield games since Bad Company 2. With the Assault class? It's the AR I trust the most.

idle lion
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Jesus

upbeat sand
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It's hot?

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Who cares

next onyx
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The m416 was my first favourite assault rifle.

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And I'm glad to be able to use it again.

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Properly as a 2042 soldier.

upbeat sand
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Only downside is the heat also heats my pc so I give it first class air cons

granite island
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F-35 25mm bullets need to be buffed

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Does zero damage

onyx mica
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pantherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

next onyx
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Yeah really that's the biggest issue, Beans.

onyx mica
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is all mine

next onyx
upbeat sand
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My pc needs water (cooling)

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Which I don't have...

next onyx
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Really you may as well play these games later on at night.

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My CPU should be here in 2 days which is gonna run even hotter but I have to decent fan to supplement it.

rare salmon
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I need a team who captures and defends a sector

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Ill be designated medic

arctic grove
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I can either do medic or assault class handing out ammo.

rare salmon
arctic grove
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PC/Windows.

rare salmon
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What’s your name

arctic grove
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My name online is TsR-RareAir23 in Battlefield.

hexed mango
rare salmon
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You a casual gamer or did you just get the game?

hexed mango
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idk i might just go play bf1. i have no idea what to do with my life rn

next onyx
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Like really.

next onyx
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I'm not sure.

hexed mango
next onyx
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Maybe it's something in your head that's causing you to think there's a delay.

hexed mango
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4x8gb

next onyx
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I play on a very high sens as well which has minimal delay.

rare salmon
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Processor?

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Gpu?

next onyx
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He has a 10700K.

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With a 3070.

hexed mango
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^

next onyx
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I have a 5600x with a 3080 for comparison.

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It's weird.

hexed mango
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i7 10700k, rtx3070, 4x8gb ddr4 ram

next onyx
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I asked Deco about this and there should be no difference.

hexed mango
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yeah man i have no clue

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also way i fixed the TPM issue lol

next onyx
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TPM?

hexed mango
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for win11

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the security thingy

next onyx
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OH.

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How?

hexed mango
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i mean i never had to go back to win10, so that's cool

idle lion
next onyx
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The 5600x is a good CPU yeah.

idle lion
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Is good for 2042?

next onyx
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I mean I'm running it right now.

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For a 6 core it's good.

arctic grove
# rare salmon You a casual gamer or did you just get the game?

I have been playing Battlefield by gaming history since Bad Company 2 and I played 125+ hours of that. Also played a lot of BF3 and BF4. Skipped BF1 and BF V as they didn't hold my interest as much as the previous 3 games did. Came back with BF 2042 after I patiently waited a year for EA/DICE to get the game playable/stable/enjoyable. In its current state? While there's still work to be done they've accomplished this feat in my mind.

next onyx
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I think beans has a 6000 series equivalent?

hexed mango
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i had to change a setting in BIOS to enable Windows Secure Boot, then restart, and go back into Bios, and enable Intel PTT (basically the same as TPM)

next onyx
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So in a way it was a BIOS setting you actually had to go and turn on.

hexed mango
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yeah it just was kinda hidden

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and none of it says tpm or security, on the setting at least

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it was confusing but i got it

next onyx
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It was like when I was trying to find XMP which was in front of my face, But it's named different things as well so I was kind of confused.

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BIOS settings are scary.

arctic grove
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Thanks.

idle lion
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Way whats your origin name so i can invite you if we are both online sometime if you dont mind

rare salmon
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Ghostm4n144

next onyx
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Wagyanba.

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That's my in game name.

copper fulcrum
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What is that?

idle lion
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Oh so thats where your name comes from

next onyx
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the name itself?

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Err originally it was Waygyanba but the censors hate my name.

idle lion
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The shortened version

next onyx
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The actual spelling of Wagyanba comes from a game from my childhood called Patapon 2.

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The name of a unit which is the most valuable to obtain and at its full power, It sets everything on fire.

idle lion
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Op

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Just a tad bit

next onyx
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I mean.

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There are units that have a higher critical and damage ratio.

copper fulcrum
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something something take this ratio

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The internet has poisoned that word for me

next onyx
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Then theres its variant in patapon 3 that can fire giant guns.

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Ah fuck.

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Whatever.

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Yeah the internet has poisoned a lot of things in my mind.

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Like "Cope"

copper fulcrum
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Still wondering what BF4 map they're bringing back

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and how the overgrowth will actually change it

next onyx
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If I had to guess it would be Zavod.

copper fulcrum
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inb4 it's flood zone

idle lion
next onyx
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But that was already abandoned during bf4 so there'd be no reason to fight over it.

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Fair.

copper fulcrum
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Metro fans hanging on to dear life hoping they return it yet again

next onyx
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A re imagined flood zone based in London would be nice.

idle lion
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Fuck metro

next onyx
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Yeah metro was my other guess but it doesn't make sense since they're making a grinder like map for season 4.

copper fulcrum
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Locker doesn't make much sense either

idle lion
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That shit gave me flashbacks the first time i was exiting the metro from the underground in sydney

next onyx
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Just don't look at the drug addict wrong.

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You'll be fine.

idle lion
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Like as i was going up the escalator i was having flashbacks to all the smokes nades shotguns and so on

copper fulcrum
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He's selling you magazines

idle lion
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Random c5 flying into me while trying to get to the top

copper fulcrum
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Gulf of Oman would be cool

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Also not off the table since I believe they said "last seen in Battlefield 4" or something along those lines

next onyx
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Yeah that's one thing I noticed.

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It's why I thought of Metro since it was a bf3 map.

copper fulcrum
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Lemme just grab the HIGHEST QUALITY image I can from the official Battlefield wiki

next onyx
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Jesus christ that render distance.

copper fulcrum
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Yeah the cameraman off the wiki needs a better system lol

slender isle
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Anything that is only infantry is already a no

copper fulcrum
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Strike at Karkand wasn't in BF4 right? They only remade Gulf of Oman and Dragon Valley.

slender isle
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they said it was vehicle and infantry balance

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Rogue transmission believer over here

copper fulcrum
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Gulf of Oman has good vehicle and infantry balance imo

slender isle
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My guess was rogue transmission, SOS or dragon valley

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No clue why'd you'd want to fight over an old arms factory

upbeat sand
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bitc why is nvidia locking out skins in geforce now

idle lion
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?

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Prolly cause they are gfn exclusives

copper fulcrum
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Here's the thing with Gulf of Oman, that wheel loader

arctic grove
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I think I know what you're going on about with Gulf of Oman. By wheel loader you mean the vehicle on that map that's looks like a small bulldozer, right?

copper fulcrum
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Yeah that was drivable

upbeat sand
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I hate most bf4 maps

next onyx
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The only decent maps on 4 was dawn breaker and flood zone.

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I loved those maps.

scarlet relic
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Tell me which one is good

next onyx
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Actually propaganda was a decent map too.

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Pearl market.

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Some of the final stand maps.

idle lion
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My fave was the aircraft carrier raid

slender isle
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I find the best map from 4 was locker because vehicles in that game were horrific to fight against

idle lion
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Impossible* to fight against

eager spire
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...OH I SEE

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HE WAS TRYING TO CENSOR HIS SQUAD

copper fulcrum
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Google BF4 Gulf of Oman, first result

eager spire
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Also, yeah most BF4 maps are not that great

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actually lemme find my BF4 map tier list again

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...No actually that list is trash i'm gonna make a new one.

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Putting fucking Rogue Transmission in S Tier

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what the fuck was i doing

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was fucking pranking myself i swear to god

next onyx
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Silvers past self pranks their future self.

arctic grove
eager spire
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S Tier: Locker, Zavod, Pearl Market
A Tier: Gulf of Oman, Dawnbreaker, Flood Zone
B Tier: Operation Firestorm, Lancang Dam, Siege of Shanghai
C Tier: Propaganda, Rogue Transmission, Dragon Valley 2015
D Tier: Lumphini Garden, Sunken Dragon, Caspian Border, Operation Metro, Hainan Resort
F Tier: The Entire Naval Strike DLC, Golmud Railway, Zavod: Graveyard Shift

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if a map is not on here it's cause i've not played it. Notably absent are Final Stand DLC maps because nobody runs those.

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forgot night zavod

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fuck night zavod.

slender isle
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I liked Operation Metro a lil, but I am a locker man through and through

eager spire
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I firmly think Metro is an overrated map, and that there were better CQB maps in BF3.

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There was an entire DLC of them, dammit.

granite island
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If golmund is f

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Why do I keep seeing it everywhere on bf4

upbeat sand
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All F

eager spire
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because people often run exclusively base game maps for server population reasons, and also vehicle mains like that map.

upbeat sand
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1 d

eager spire
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I am not a vehicle main, so i don't.

raw spade
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Hi, just wondering which gamemodes are famous in seas regions? I keep getting thrown into a lobby where it just sits at waiting for 2/16 players and it's taking ages to find matches , crossplay is on

glacial quarry
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when is the rorsch getting nerfed

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and the tgm

eager spire
slender isle
glacial quarry
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think no one plays tdm

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imagine playing battlefield to play tdm

eager spire
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I kinda wanna make a tier list of BF1 maps but I have no experience with DLC maps in it.

eager spire
raw spade
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hmm ben trying to go into breakthrough but no luck

slender isle
eager spire
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I like the infantry gameplay better than CoD most of the time.

slender isle
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Verdun and paschendaal are great, as is fort de vaux

glacial quarry
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i just queued into breakthrough took 20 seconds

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weird

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im in sea too

slender isle
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Then the poppy field one is also good

eager spire
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seriously i don't know why people want it in 2042 so bad.

raw spade
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Finding a server is ok but it keep putting me into empty ones where it's just waiting for more players

eager spire
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I've played Domination on Passchendaele once, and i liked it.

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Fort De Vaux, i don't have much experience with outside of a brief period on a 200% damage server

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but that wasn't that fun. Not due to the map though, due to the 200% damage.

slender isle
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It's good

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It's like one big square

eager spire
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it's like BF1's Operation Locker

slender isle
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Basically yeah

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Russian maps are ass though

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like big ol' straight doo doo

eager spire
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I think that and Argonne are the better infantry maps in the game tbh

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Sinai Desert can fuck off.

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I don't like that map.

slender isle
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I find Argonne to be the second best infantry map released by DICE in both layout and artistic direction

celest osprey
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BF2042 doesnt have a story mode does it

eager spire
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no

slender isle
celest osprey
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Lol

eager spire
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it wouldn't be very good even if it did because this game's setting and premise are fucking stupid

slender isle
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It is also told through background features of maps, in game events, and a few other things too

celest osprey
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Shame. My first BF game and im enjoying the unique experience. Was hoping for an immersive storymode but i suppose thats other BF games

raw spade
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Yeah instantly put me into a lobby and it just sitting at waiting for players 2/16 AngryFace

slender isle
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BF isn't really known for it's single player

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I'd say you have 3/6 good war stories in bf1, bfV sucks, bf4 has like 3 good levels, and bf3 is just an action film with a great start

celest osprey
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Ah I see

eager spire
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I felt like BF3's campaign was the most fine of the ones i've played

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it wasn't anything special

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but i also didn't actively hate anything about it like with BF4.

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BF1 i have no comments cause i don't care

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heard good things about Hardline's campaign, but DICE in their infinite wisdom and high budget decided to lock the FOV in the campaign to like fucking 55 or some shit

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and i'm not fucking playing a game like that.

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You can fuck off with that.

glacial quarry
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55 fov lol

white geyser
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Hardline… back then I was busy collecting money, blood money and I forgot the other game mode where you drive the objective car to collect money

slender isle
eager spire
slender isle
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those are the 3 best story missions

eager spire
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Honestly i wish Hardline was more active. There's no active NA servers.

next onyx
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Money makes the world go round.

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You let those fucks, rob our vault!?

polar sparrow
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Hey goodmorning, how can i play with friends that have xbox ?

slender isle
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Hardline 2 set in like the 90s would be so damn cool

polar sparrow
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Like i tried adding them but couldnt find them

slender isle
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It's like the epitome of heist and cop films

wide shore
next onyx
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If they're on the series x you can add them.

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And playing the next gen version.

polar sparrow
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Xbox one tho

next onyx
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Get them to add you.

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Yeah you can't.

polar sparrow
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At all ?

next onyx
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Xbox one/ps4 version is its own version of the game.

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Not at all.

polar sparrow
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Alr thanks

wide shore
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I would play the shit out of any campaign that was just famous WWI battles played out just like Storm of Steel. Where you die and get a new guy until the mission ends.

eager spire
idle lion
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Guys ai stole my job...

slender isle
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Could do a mafia esq game in the 60s-70s

idle lion
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Gpt stole my jobbbb

wide shore
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Only thing I didn’t like about Hardline’s campaign, is that a lot of the missions felt like bootleg Far Cry

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BF1 and BFV had the same problem in a lot of missions

eager spire
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also apparently BF4 is $5 on Steam rn

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so

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that's neat.

wide shore
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Battlefield campaigns to me always feel like such solo experiences. Which is weird. There’s rarely any missions with like big battles with tons of AI and shit. Yet COD used to do stuff like that all the time.

The only one I can really think of is the beginning of The Runner in BF1. And even then, that beach storm still felt like a solo experience.

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You would think that massive battlefields with tons of stuff going on would be like, Battlefield 101

slender isle
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Theres the tank mission in bf3

wide shore
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Sure but even then it’s like 6-7 tanks.

slender isle
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Yeah, that's a normal amount I'd think

wide shore
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I just don’t feel like the one man army thing really fits battlefield. And I think that’s a large reason most of the Battlefield campaigns feel lame.

eager spire
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i donno i've not really felt like that was a serious concern for me. hard to tell a compelling story like that.

wide shore
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It doesn’t showcase what battlefield is.

white geyser
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Well, it was nice for me on my ground war superiority zombie matchup, two people join on my matchup and it was right on time

magic bloom
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I’m playing dozer on manifest this is gonna be fun

wide shore
# eager spire i donno i've not really felt like that was a serious concern for me. hard to tel...

I don’t think they should try to tell a compelling story based on just characters. They’ve done it before, and I’d say it failed more than it worked. I think it would make more sense to tell a story about the entire battle. The people in it. The sheer size and spectacle. Show it from multiple fronts. Different people.

I mean compare like the March to the Reichstag in World at War, to basically ANY battlefield campaign. How is it that mission feels more Battlefieldy than like any battlefield mission.

magic bloom
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I mean I agree battlefield has always been about the stereotypical soldier not special characters

wide shore
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It’s chaotic, there’s tons going on. It feels like your a small part of a massive battle. That’s what they should be focusing on.

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It mimics the multiplayer experience and feels more like a complimentary piece and less of a stand-alone experience.

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I’m not against them throwing some small stuff about characters in there. Like, Miller in BF3 was good. The dinosaur became iconic. You play a lot of big offensive missions with him. And he ends up being executed. His arc was one of the best in that game.

eager spire
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The dinosaur became iconic
the dinosaur seemed more like a forced meme than anything else

magic bloom
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Dino best bf character

wide shore
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Idk. From where I was standing it got over organically.

magic bloom
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Dino mask was the best accessory in hardline

wide shore
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The community really wanted a dinosaur mode.

celest osprey
# wide shore I don’t think they should try to tell a compelling story based on just character...

I havent played BF much to be able to express my opinion, and most would probably disagree.

I think BF is more about the experience itself of being in a real war rather than a simulated teamdeath match (cod as reference). Ive seen plenty of footage of BF, and its cinematics aswell as aesthethics that attracted me. You feel more immersed in a 'real war' than anything else. So i kinda agree on your perspective

magic bloom
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Dice make it happen in portal I’m begging you

white geyser
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Dinosaur mode? how does it work? do we kill the dinosaurs from attacking the base camp?

magic bloom
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We use tanks to fend off hordes of Trex’s

eager spire
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I personally don't give much of a damn about immersion in multiplayer settings. Battlefield lacks the simulation or realism aspects to make roleplaying worth doing. I just like the infantry gameplay, for the most part.

white geyser
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I want them to rework co-op to make it online matchmaking and I’m still waiting for them to do that.

celest osprey
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Compared to Cod, i think BF did a pretty good job. Might just be cuz im new, but I find it more enjoyable

eager spire
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Battlefield is just larger CoD with vehicles. It's nothing more than that, really.

celest osprey
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I played cod my whole life. Id say theres more to it

eager spire
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So have i. I'd say there isn't.

celest osprey
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Agree to disagree

eager spire
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ok.

magic bloom
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I Just like battlefield for the larger battles and vehicle combat

wide shore
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I accidentally said the other word and got timed out. Slipped my mind. NotLikeThis

magic bloom
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I having a hard time imagining what you said

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I’m not very bright plus I haven’t slept

wide shore
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There’s another term for COD Zombies.

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Either way. I’m dumb.

magic bloom
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Ohhh the not funny German word

eager spire
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I like Battlefield cause i felt like BF4's infantry gameplay was more interesting than the CoD games i was playing, and considering how MWII is turning out, that's still true.

magic bloom
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Not funny

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Forgive me It’s been like 18 hours since I’ve slept

wide shore
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When I switched to BF from COD I only did it because I liked the destruction and the gun sounds.

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No joke

eager spire
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I don't even like the destruction that much. I find it more annoying than anything else most of the time.

wide shore
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Played BC1 for the first time it was like an awakening.

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I love the destruction.

eager spire
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"Ah, sick. we're like 5 minutes into this match and now all the cover is rubble. fantastic."

wide shore
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Another reason I adore BF1.

magic bloom
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I Just like the batshit stuff you could do in battlefield

next onyx
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Battlefield lets me kill people with vehicles on hand.

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Gives me more toys to kill people with.

eager spire
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God i wish BF1 was a better game.

magic bloom
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But martini Henry go bang

eager spire
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i don't care about the martini henry.

wide shore
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BF1 will always be my favorite. I’m convinced.

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Nothing has come close yet.

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Granted there’s only been two titles since

magic bloom
magic bloom
eager spire
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I think the games afterwards have had improvements to gameplay over BF1, but in classic DICE fashion they have good ideas but never use all the good ideas they have in a single game.

magic bloom
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Is the MAV actually amphibious

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I’ve never tested it

wide shore
# magic bloom I liked how gritty it was

The color tones. The beautiful graphics. Amazing gun sounds. Unique setting. Awesome guns. Blades, gas, spikes, mud, blood. Amazing destruction. Operations mode. The best weather system. The awesome behemoths. The amount of factions. The great maps. Great DLC. The peacekeeper Easter eggs.

All these things can make me look past visual recoil and spread. I just don’t care that it’s there.

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BF1 just makes me happy

magic bloom
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I miss the sound of the Dreadnought coming in for a artillery barrage the horn was so terrifying but awesome

magic bloom
wide shore
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I never got tired of the airship crashing.

eager spire
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The questionable weapon balance in some cases, the broken gas grenades, the nade spam in general, the elite classes, the lighting problems making looking through windows when your brightness is above 50% in game impossible, the over-nerfed sliding mechanic, all the good ideas Incursions had that were lost when that mode got scrapped.

magic bloom
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Games don’t always have to be perfect to be fun

wide shore
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When has questionable weapon balance and grenade spam ever not been a problem

magic bloom
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Hell that’s what makes battlefield games so fun half the time

eager spire
wide shore
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People used to sit on the top of the stairs with an ammo box and throw grenades downstairs in BC2 for entire matches.

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Slug shotguns from across the map too

magic bloom
wide shore
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BF3 had the M16A3 which still to this day breaks the game

magic bloom
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Should I try and get the MAV tier 1

wide shore
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Which is sad af

eager spire
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nade spam in BF1 is particularly annoying because the gas grenades and incendiary grenades exist.

wide shore
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Gas Grenades were not that bad. IMO

magic bloom
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If I didn’t use the martini Henry I used shotguns so I always had a gas mask on to begin with

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Gas grenades didn’t effect me

eager spire
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they were irritating as shit.

wide shore
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It was area denial more than it was a killer

eager spire
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also they go through floors and walls.

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so there's that too

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they were literally broken.

wide shore
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One button and you negate the whole effect

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And all guns get a hipfire bonus

eager spire
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if you're playing anything but assault or running a trench weapon, running the gas mask is basically a death sentence

magic bloom
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I mean it’s not like hardline where you have to use a gadget slot for a mask

wide shore
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You rarely ever need to keep it on anyway. They don’t even last long.

eager spire
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again, see my comment about nade spam

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you think people are just gonna toss a single gas nade?

foggy halo
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I've always used gas grenades in bf1

wide shore
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I mean, most people didn’t use it after they changed the amount that you had available

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At first. Sure. Everyone running them had 2 at their disposal.

foggy halo
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From what I could see it was the best grenade to use

wide shore
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But could you imagine a WWI game without gas?

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I couldn’t.

eager spire
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still seems like there's an unreasonable amount of them. i mainly ran either frags or smokes, even though frags were not that great after the introduction of perks.

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because lol explosion damage resistance

magic bloom
wide shore
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I always ran the improvised grenade

magic bloom
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I always ran anti tank to help out the assault class

broken horizon
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any news on blackscreen bug

eager spire
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no

wide shore
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Didn’t even know where was one

magic bloom
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I’m currently sitting here waiting to get mastery 12 on the MAV

magic bloom
broken horizon
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yea its occurs after EoR more often

wide shore
magic bloom
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That’s cool

eager spire
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Still annoyed that they actually had a firing range made for BF1 Incursions but never released it after Incursions got scrapped. Would've been really nice for the game cause people didn't like that it didn't have a firing range.

magic bloom
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Thanks for letting me know

wide shore
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Not many places to use it’s amphibious ability. But yeah

eager spire
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They also were gonna remove iron and optical sight sway, which would've been a nice change. Would've made optical sight variants more usable.

wide shore
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It was good for going across the rivers on Kaleidoscope. But then they made it shallow. So. Lol

eager spire
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cause as of now, even with the reduced spread i don't see the point of using them when the variants with iron sights are not as bad in terms of visual recoil.

wide shore
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Maybe that’s why I just don’t use the red dot variants.

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I also don’t like the looks of them anyway

idle lion
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Bro ai straight up wrote my entire chat app website in less than 2m which i had to write in 8weeks

eager spire
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ok.

wide shore
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AI is cracked

idle lion
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For real dude im gonna be out of a job because of ai

eager spire
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ok

magic bloom
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Unfortunate

next onyx
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Ah shit.

idle lion
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?

next onyx
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What you wrote.

idle lion
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Yeah...

magic bloom
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It’s only a matter of time before it happens to most of us

idle lion
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I also asked it to replicate the movement of ULTRAKILL in C# UNITY which it did perfectly

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Im gonna ask it to replicate battlefield 2042 movement mechanics in unity c#

eager spire
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someone just posted a fucking text wall and got deleted

magic bloom
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I saw that

wide shore
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RIPBOZO

magic bloom
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L + Ratio

eager spire
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oh it was Phial.

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honestly good i was getting tired of him going on about GPT.

wide shore
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I see that happen all the time on the MC server. But I can actually go read it on there. sadge

next onyx
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Text wall?

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There's no wall.

magic bloom
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There was

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Wait

eager spire
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yeah someone tried posting a fucking wall of text and got deleted instantly

plucky basin
wide shore
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Way, d’you know if getting timed out messes with my regular progress?

next onyx
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I know it does.

wide shore
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Fuck

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I’m doomed.

idle lion
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What happened

eager spire
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You tried posting a text wall and got muted

magic bloom
idle lion
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Ik that happened

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Just askinf what frosty is saying

eager spire
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frosty didn't say much

magic bloom
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I got this MAV’s fat ass stuck on a tiny rock

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Honest to god skill issue

wide shore
magic bloom
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I’m gonna commit self forever box now

wide shore
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Just be a turret

magic bloom
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Ok I managed to get it off the rock

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But I have now also managed to push it off a cliff

wide shore
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On what, exposure?

magic bloom
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Yes.

wide shore
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Lmao, good going

magic bloom
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Thanks frosty I needed that

wide shore
magic bloom
magic bloom
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I’ve listened to bohemian rhapsody for 8 hours

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Help

upbeat sand
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thpin

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thpin

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thpin thpin thpin

eager spire
magic bloom
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I’ve gone through every possible emotion in 6 minutes

arctic grove
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anything fun going on with battlefield rn?

eager spire
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I donno maybe

upbeat sand
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thpin

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thpin

magic bloom
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I’m trying to tier 1 the MAV.

eager spire
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@upbeat sand you alright

arctic grove
upbeat sand
arctic grove
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love playing Lis with repair tool and smoke lol

eager spire
magic bloom
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Made my day

arctic grove
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I'm that guy who runs around repairingšŸ’€

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some games I end up with 0 kills but all the logistics lmao

magic bloom
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I’m the guy who straps ammo and health boxes to my Casper drone and flys them around to teammates

arctic grove
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LMAO

magic bloom
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If you ever see a drone doing that it’s most likely me

arctic grove
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the logistical menace

magic bloom
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Gold logistics ribbons out the ass

eager spire
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AMMO DRONE COMING IN

upbeat sand
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THPIN

magic bloom
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Fuckin A Right

eager spire
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Why is that not a specialist

magic bloom
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It is

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Play Casper with ammo box

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I am the ammo

next onyx
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I am ammo no matter what.

magic bloom
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The way machine.

arctic grove
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I hope they add mortars as an equipment slot

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imagine putting a mortar on the casper drone

eager spire
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I don’t that sounds annoying as shit

magic bloom
next onyx
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If I played with the ammo box and stuck with the game since I probably would have gotten an extra 100K resupplies onto my name.

arctic grove
next onyx
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50 to 100k. Either way.

eager spire
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brb making food

wide shore
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I used the M5 for a really long time

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But I’ve been using the ammo box since S1

arctic grove
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@magic bloom you wanna play?kek_yz

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gonna sit on your mav with liss

magic bloom
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Stg dice if you patch this

upbeat sand
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do you think the map devs who made argonne forest, soloman islands, operation locker ect still work at dice?

magic bloom
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I’m gonna wish your family a merry Christmas if you patch the ammo drone

magic bloom
eager spire
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A lot of people who worked for DICE left after BFV

upbeat sand
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looks like the masters of cqc hell are gone

eager spire
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I mean look at 2042’s maps, are you surprised?

slender isle
upbeat sand
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yeah

magic bloom
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I like all the maps except current hour glass

upbeat sand
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it was one of the better ones and was also used in the beta

slender isle
upbeat sand
wide shore
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Hourglass>>>>>>>Breakaway

edgy oriole
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orbital been boring to me since they got rid of 128 bt. fight at this building then when you lose it go to rocket just for someone to blow it up and all defending team dies

next onyx
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Renewal looks the nicest.

slender isle
edgy oriole
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only

magic bloom
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The best looking one Imo is Exposure

slender isle
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It starts on the hill now

wide shore
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Breakaway remake can’t come soon enough. That map has always sucked ass and I refuse to play it.

edgy oriole
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i thought breakaway was okey. i think they shouldve got rid of or reworked B sector but i liked A sector fights and all after B

wide shore
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A was the only part of the map that felt like it had any flow at all

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Go anywhere else and it was like getting swarmed by bees.

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Or it was just dead

edgy oriole
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B sector was only made to be cinematic which is why it sucked so much ass

slender isle
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The oil rig is cool

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one of the best tdm places

wide shore
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It’s a big ass waste of space rn

next onyx
slender isle
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Yeah, I like how it's basically moved into the most travelled area of the map

slender isle
next onyx
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Breakaway looks genuinely interesting now.

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That was an Irish.

wide shore
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A sector. The flag at the bottom of the hill. And that one on the ice are the only places players are.

next onyx
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But yet fuck the armour cunts.

slender isle
wide shore
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Anything above the glacier is just free points for the team that spawns up there because nobody else wants to spend 45 minutes capping flags up there

magic bloom
next onyx
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No need for reply ping I'm still here.

Benchmarks are different for Irish.

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He might be able to get 20 armour.

slender isle
magic bloom
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Sorry I meant to hit the off thing

next onyx
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His his spawn armour only allows him to live an extra shot from guns that do 25 to 20 damage.

Basically any gun with a 6KU suppressor.

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For the most part.

wide shore
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Idk. People say Hourglass is too empty but at least hourglass feels like it’s being used. You can pretty much find people on all the flags on hourglass. Same can’t be said for breakaway.

slender isle
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Most smgs too I think

next onyx
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He couldn't survive my scar because it deals 28 damage which adds up to 112.

magic bloom
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I wish the F35 was able to compete with the SU57 without having to do weird vtol maneuvers

slender isle
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I really hate how the AK is a 5 hit kill outside of 10m

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it sucks so bad

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Sfar has 0 competition

edgy oriole
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AK single fire was something else

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bring it back HYPEROMEGALAUGHING

wide shore
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They did?

magic bloom
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I still like the AK

wide shore
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They got rid of the burst fire this last patch

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It should have full auto and single now

magic bloom
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why…

edgy oriole
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it should be full and burst bc single was busted

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for some reason

wide shore
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Because the 2 round burst on the AK24 sucked ass

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And they gotta make room for the true Chad 2 round burst gun

magic bloom
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I mean I never used anything besides full auto

wide shore
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AC42 is a 4 round burst

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I’m talking about the AN94

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My one true love

magic bloom
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Mine is the bf4 249

next onyx
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The m416 is better at range than the Ak24.

magic bloom
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I haven’t even unlocked it

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Is it worth it

next onyx
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If you like the AK you'll love the m416.

wide shore
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It’s pretty good

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AK is my most killed gun still

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So I guess that’s why I like the 416

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There’s massive delay on the M26 shotty tho

arctic grove
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idk what to play on battlefield

magic bloom
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Dude I had to get off cause I couldn’t even land my shots

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That’s how tired I’m getting

wide shore
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Go to sleep my guy

frail pasture
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For this weekly mission where you have to deal damage to veichles with ap rounds or underbarrel grenade launchers will i get progress on it for shooting veichles with my railgun?

wide shore
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No

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Railgun doesn’t have AP rounds

arctic grove
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I think there's a slight difference between a railgun and a grenade launcher

magic bloom
edgy oriole
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if you talking about the new utility the only ammo it has is AP

magic bloom
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Cause my railgun damage counted for my challenge

wide shore
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I just slapped AP rounds on an Avancys, wrapped suppressor and bipod and just unloaded on every vehicle I seen

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If the railgun counts for that ima be pissed

edgy oriole
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it should bc AP is the only ammo type it has HYPEROMEGALAUGHING

magic bloom
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I swear it did

restive fable
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cheater in my lobby spawning a yg-99 everytime he dies lol

magic bloom
grizzled whale
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people go infantry in the obvious vehicle zone in the middle of the map and then complain its too open

wide shore
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I don’t go anywhere near the dunes on foot

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I follow the houses

grizzled whale
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as you should

magic bloom
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I hardly go near the dunes at all.

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I hate sand

wide shore
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C doesn’t exist unless I have a tank

grizzled whale
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I do, but i snipe people that complain its a bad map but still walk there

wide shore
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As I said. Breakaway definitely needs its remake before hourglass

royal trail
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one thing ive been wondering about is why the front grip of the gun aint being showed after games or in menus

idle lion
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@next onyx do you do anything with programming

edgy oriole
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they need to get rid of the useless skyscrapers in hourglass and ill be fine

wide shore
royal trail
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or they just fix that so it holds accordingly leo

grizzled whale
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yeah the breakaway rework is gonna be fire

edgy oriole
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wild wild west but in snow i like it

magic bloom
wide shore
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And fighting at E is fun.

eager spire
edgy oriole
eager spire
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What the fuck are you drilling in antarctica for. water?

magic bloom
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Oil

grizzled whale
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its a reference to the name of the map

wide shore
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Well, it’s an oil rig. So my guess would be oil. Lol

eager spire
grizzled whale
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the metal spider demon is trying to breakaway from its ethereal shackles that have bound it to the ice for centuries

edgy oriole
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underground

magic bloom
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Also yes in icebergs

wide shore
grizzled whale
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you do realise they are drilling on a frozen lake right?

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not a glacier

magic bloom
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It’s definitely drilling to China

wide shore
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It’s almost like, a lot of oil rigs are in the ocean

eager spire
edgy oriole
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monkeysideye shhhh

grizzled whale
wide shore
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It has land man. Lol

grizzled whale
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but it has land

eager spire
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I thought it was just all ice.

arctic grove
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its the worlds biggest desert

grizzled whale
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all of the A objectives are on solid ground

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C is too

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the rig and D are on a lake

wide shore
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Wrote that faster than me.

grizzled whale
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and the massive glacier is just

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a glacier

magic bloom
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Glacier

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Funny word

wide shore
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There’s big vats of oil near the American spawn and all around A as well

grizzled whale
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say glacier 5827 times and it will no longer seem like a real word

arctic grove
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Struggling to figure out what to play atm, nobody wants to let me repair their shit in game lmao

wide shore
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Not to mention the big ass oil tanks.

arctic grove
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everyone just speeds off and dies without having a repair

arctic grove
wide shore
arctic grove
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in or on?

wide shore
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In the side seats

arctic grove
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ah

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I actually love the 30m on the jeep

wide shore
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Then just aim at the wall and you can repair that way

arctic grove
wide shore
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Then yeah you know the drill then

magic bloom
arctic grove
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My favourite interaction was
"Holy shit you're a good pilot, do you do this irl? LMAO"
"no im stoned af in first person im about to vomit"

magic bloom
arctic grove
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That condor was powered by Mary Jane and a repair tool

magic bloom
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I’m not funny I should really stop

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First person in the condor is the most motion sickness inducing thing I ever did see

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Keep in mind I’m a nightbird pilot

arctic grove
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I love the first person aspect

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especially in jets

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I've become more accustomed to first person

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idk how

wide shore
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I have to fly in first person. I can do jets in 3rd but not helicopters

arctic grove
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yeah

magic bloom
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I cant aim in third person with helicopters

wide shore
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I have a hard time adjusting pitch and yaw in third person for some reason

arctic grove
wide shore
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Like the controls are the same but my brain goes dumbo mode the moment I try

arctic grove
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also, any series x players here? got a quick question

magic bloom
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I’m a poor series S player

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Broke

arctic grove
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Pressing L trigger down for unassisted flight does nothing?

wide shore
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I don’t think I’ve ever tried to use it

arctic grove
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it doesn't actually do anything for me

magic bloom
arctic grove
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like genuinely nothing

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I thought so

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I press it and nothing happens lmfao

magic bloom
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Nothing noticeable anyway

arctic grove
magic bloom
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I hate how the helicopters try to automatically right themselves

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If I wanna flip my nightbird to where the blades are literally pulling me towards the ground lemme do it

arctic grove
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you can somewhat do it

magic bloom
arctic grove
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I do it on the spaceship map because it spawns you so far away

magic bloom
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Yeah I know but i cant just let go of it

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Anyway I’m going to bed it’s 4:23

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I’m gonna somewhat try and function when I wake up in 4 hours

arctic grove
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im about to sit in a jeep with a 30mm

magic bloom
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Have fun

arctic grove
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have a good sleep!

magic bloom
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I will try

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Thank you

idle lion
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i just realized gptchat can be used to make youtube video scripts

fallen pendant
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Bro why tf is my 2042 so choppy and laggy as heck

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The update didn't do shit

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Like goddamn

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50 to 40 fps

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Can't play in this conditions

slender isle
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I really hope DICE fixes the stuttering. It seems to only happen on spearhead, and then sometimes on manifest

idle lion
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O i thought you did stuff w programming since you had the same reaction as i did when i found out about gpt chat

shy latch
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yo, did they changed specialists dialogues? because on last night I was playing with a friend of mine (I used Mckay and he used Rao) and when I revived him I heard his character said "I own you one bi**h"

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maybe I heard wrong, unfortunately my software for taking clips was not running, but I was pretty sure he said that

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and I replied him "if you treat me like that next time I won't revive you" šŸ˜‚

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plus there was an allied Boris nearby me and he shoot a bazooka missile and he said "take this sons of bi##h#s"....

next onyx
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Yeah Mackay got his dialogue updated.

slender isle
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Weejobie should really like not allow himself to own fingers

next onyx
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Plus there are unique lines for specialist on specialist.

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Topped that cunts kills at least. Than again I can't say I'm surprised he hasn't been banned yet.

slender isle
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Also gg @arctic grove You murdered me trying to push B from C but I put that up to the stupid insanly common stutters

next onyx
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Xm370 go dom dom dom.

slender isle
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He's blatant and yet just isn't and it is very much annoying lmao

next onyx
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Yeah I saw you but I got killed by some bot sitting back with a railgun down at the end.

slender isle
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hahaahah rip

next onyx
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I was the one shooting at you at the bottom.

slender isle
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I swear, I would've rather they had gotten rid of the cranes next to and above C and D rather than the other

next onyx
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At least there are only two cranes.

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I love sending the xm370 up there.

slender isle
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I know, I can tell by the Zain T1

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But I've been stutter after stutter today, but only on spearhead and Manifest... the two maps I want to play

next onyx
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His passive is helpful and I can work with the reduced ADS speed. Most of the time.

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Weird.

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I haven't encountered stutters at all.

slender isle
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Yeah. Could be the new shaders or something and my system doesn't like it

next onyx
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DX12 things.

slender isle
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I mean, 3070, 11700k, 16gb of ddr4. I don't see a problem. Only been happening since the update so could be that CPU usage they wanted to fix

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It was a good match. I still somehow dropped 25-3

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Even with you, weejobie, couple other sussy fellas, and the stutters

eager spire
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DX12 moment

next onyx
arctic grove
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Is the hourglass bt layout with stadium?

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On next gen

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Since the 64 bt incident

edgy oriole
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stadium hasnt been apart of bt since they killed 128bt

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or if you talking about the remake then idk

upbeat sand
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Current hourglass bt is pretty eh

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The last 2 points are good

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The first is meh but the second point is Shhhhhhi

next onyx
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Hourglass in general not a good map no matter what.

upbeat sand
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I want to see a map but it's just towers

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Like the points on hourglass and kelidescope

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But it's all skyscrapers and you just go around taking buildings and zip lining

distant lance
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Any news on performance or nothing fixed yet?

upbeat sand
wintry parrot
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God I underesrimated boris's turret

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Turret kinda based ngl

arctic grove
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its hella fun

wintry parrot
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I've been using it as a distraction mainly, put it in one spot, let someone shoot at it a little, then pop up and blam

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I may or may not like boris now based solely on stockholm syndrome from the serebro centurion skin

upbeat sand
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Where is the next battlefield friends

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Dammit I've been waiting for months

idle lion
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whats the ak 24 fire rate?

chilly jacinth
idle lion
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thx

wintry parrot
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650 with standard mags

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600 with high power and armour piercing

arctic grove
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2042 gam

obsidian elk
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Man who would have thought that Call of Duty would end up being a better Battlefield game than Battlefield

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kinda nutty tbh

chilly jacinth
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its not

wintry parrot
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Thats a pretty subjective take

upbeat sand
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China's PLA used to use battlefield 2 as technological training

arctic grove
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got my first #1 place on the scoreboard for revives!

slender isle
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They were like S011

vague nexus
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i hope in their upcoming class core feedback the support will be more support-y with their "always-available" gadget (i find it weird that two classes have medical items such as defib and medpen)
and also why is c5 going to recon?

arctic grove
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is the m416 any good?

chilly jacinth
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recon used to have c4 in bf4

chilly jacinth
slender isle
lime geode
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Omg

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F1sh

slender isle
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When did you get unbanned ahah

lime geode
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I was never banned

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I don't think I was atleast

slender isle
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Thought you might’ve been at one point tbh but hey, welcome again

lime geode
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I mightve been timed out

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But idk for what

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@fathom osprey was I ever timed out here

modest ivy
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Well, hmm, wonder what number 4 did...

fathom osprey
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saw a ping in the battlefield server, thought some news about 2042 was out 😦

heavy heron
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Does anyone know if they will give the Christmas skin again I couldn't get it last year

still vault
modest ivy
idle lion
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@next onyx finally got around to sending you that frq

chilly jacinth
lime geode
fathom osprey
lime geode
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Eh who knows

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Thanks for answering bro

still vault
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would be fun if the endgame screen just wrote: died 10 times šŸ˜„

modest ivy
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So apparently the 300 Xerxes "I'm a generous god" is considered explicit

Anyway, that meme with:
I got the most kills and flag captures in the last game
Am credited for the flags, but not for the kills as I can only be credited once in EOR screen

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Congrats kawle LUL

still vault
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Discords own bots are a work in progress

modest ivy
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my guess is the bare chest

torpid shuttle
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What wrong with server today? Sometimes the game shutdown by itself, go black scene and auto disconnect to server.

next onyx
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77 more for tier 1 M416.

still vault
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Got the PBX tier 1 yesterday

woven acorn
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had the game since launch and only just discovered you can use the plus menu on irishs' shield wall

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his trophy system has changed how i play now lmao

idle lion
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the elites dont want you to know this but if you put 2 irish traps next to your tank you are completely safe from all projectiles

woven acorn
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already been using it lel

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i mean enemies can shoot them but

idle lion
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yeah you can put a shield instead of 2 things

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as in 1 shield 1 trophy

woven acorn
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the amount of people who stand outside the objectives on breakthrough and let the enemy take everything is infuriating

sage musk
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i just started a solo match and was thrown into a half finished multiplayer... had all my loadouts setup for testing stuff, not playing against people...

woven cipher
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Tough.

sage musk
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it even put me on the map i chose, was really wierd

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but no AI

modest ivy
tough flax
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is the battle pass worth it this time?

next onyx
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Uh is there anything you want in it?

tough flax
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XD i guess everything so it is then XD

ebon pilot
arctic grove
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anyone knows how to get rid of the DirectX crash?

naive quiver
solar tinsel
next onyx
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While it doesn't work 100% of the time because there are things you can grow to love.

tough flax
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yeah will do

next onyx
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It just works.

tough flax
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wish they would lower their prices in-game to what fortnite have them at

ebon pilot
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at least they're not apex prices

tough flax
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what are they like?

ebon pilot
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$18 for a legendary

arctic grove
ebon pilot
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I absolutely refused to buy anything from the Apex shop because of how absurdly expensive it all was

celest horizon
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i really wonder why they didnt learn from bf4, those sweaty cunts that ONLY play with minibirds and get a KD like 100/2, harras every other vehicle and somehow manage to make a shit ton of infantry kills, without dying cus they can pop flares every 3 secconds and are too fast for missles

ebon pilot
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Every single player on the team can pull AA so it balances out

next onyx
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I only buy stuff I know I want.

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The new horsemen of the apocalypse set might be worth it.

celest horizon
ebon pilot
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If the team won't fight back with the tools available to them that's kinda their own problem

celest horizon
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its one of those bf4 tryhards that ruined the game cus all they do is fly around in the minibird dodging missles, too fast to hit with anything else, and just doesnt die whilst killing everyone

topaz field
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Hmm now that I play WW3 I feel like Casper droƱe should explode and kill enemies / damage tanks

celest horizon
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nerfed the fun away

celest horizon
topaz field
celest horizon
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meanwhile this guy is now 45/1 with the minibird 9 minutes into the match

arctic grove
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nope

grizzled whale
arctic grove
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crashed again

celest horizon
arctic grove
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DirectX is literally crashing every game

grizzled whale
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that game shouldnt even be mentioned in this server

topaz field
next onyx
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It's an actual rat.

topaz field
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Lmfao

celest horizon
# ebon pilot Play Rao

i want tp be able top fly my transport heli without being hunted by an unkillable minibird

celest horizon
topaz field
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Play Rao and do what @ebon pilot

ebon pilot
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Hack them every time they show their face

next onyx
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Angle.

grizzled whale
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but who are you

topaz field
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Rao hack doesn't last long enough against heli

ebon pilot
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Just annoy the everyloving fuck out of them

topaz field
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You ever hacked a helicopter and he still manages to pop a flare??

celest horizon
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@next onyx forgive me for posting the link. but

ebon pilot
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Play Rao, run AA so the moment they get hacked and don't flare, hit them with a missile.

ebon pilot
next onyx
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I don't mind a link being posted.

celest horizon
ebon pilot
calm bison
topaz field
celest horizon
ebon pilot
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Eventually they'll get tired and hang around and get sloppy and get killed

ebon pilot
celest horizon
calm bison
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There is nothing more boring in this game than jet gameplay

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You kill the enemy jet and then have nothing to do

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You can barely hit choppers because of the drift these stupid aircraft produce

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And tanks are just not worth the effort

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Also

celest horizon
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53 /1 KD playing the minibird, match is going on for 13 minutes KEKW balanced as BF4, totally not a reason why that game died out. sweaty fucks only tryharding with vehicles, mainly the minibird killing entire teams by themselves

calm bison
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ATGMs now lock on to empty vehicles

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Why

topaz field
calm bison
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No one is in it

celest horizon
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after you learn how to play them, which takes quite some hours, there's always these ''jet only'' players that act like its warthunder/world of warplanes.

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and will slap you

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match ended, we lost massively. guy in minibird went 65/1 KEKW nah not op at all, when playing by these sweaty minibird-only players

still spear
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I'm having some issues with my game, where can I go for help?

celest horizon
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totally wasnt an issue in bf4 either. getting gangbanged by the sweats maining helicopters

celest horizon
topaz field
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Problem is no one teams up to take out the helis