Ah kaleidescope (another awful name)
#battlefield-2042
spiral folio
arctic grove
I took it
next onyx
There isn't much to do.
spiral folio
Transports are pretty broken there cause excess cover and the boundaries they can hide in are beyond excessive
arctic grove
I think they took away so much of jets options for balancing, for instance there’s no more JDAMs or anti infantry rockets
arctic grove
I'll send you playable AI models to have it back pls
You strike a good offer
upbeat gust
Transports are pretty broken there cause excess cover and the boundaries they ca...
a wildcat destroys transports ngl
next onyx
I have flown planes for 500 hours on bf5. Despite point of contention around them, They at least did their job.
upbeat gust
I have flown planes for 500 hours on bf5. Despite point of contention around the...
jets also do their job in 2042
pine roost
from the top of my head:
- Far too much drift and bullet sway
- A non functional rear cam
- A third person camera roll that doesn't even work properly.
- A broken inverted pitch rate
upbeat gust
they're made for taking out other aircraft
spiral folio
You cant get a bead on em to literally save your life
next onyx
What job? Their guns are awful.
spiral folio
Meanwhile theyre dropping seeds every frigin place
arctic grove
I was using it for anti ground vehicles effectively with the agm and 30mm but yeah they suck against helis
pine roost
the 30s have so much spread that they are useless against anything since by the time you've dealt any meaningful amount of damage you need to pull up
upbeat gust
Jet on heli jet on ground is awful.
on ground its of course gonna be awful
the jets are fighter jets in this game
next onyx
I was able to strafe infantry on bf5 with fighters even though they're not meant for that.
A jet cannot.
pine roost
their only redeeming quality is that the 25s are somewhat accurate and the flare duration is pretty long
spiral folio
This is exactly why i liked bf1 aircraft better. They were defeatable and not so fast they can't do anything to ground
next onyx
Singular gun, Bad flight model, Gun has crap velocity.
arctic grove
To me I think that’s why the game could use dedicated strike/attack planes. They could maybe just bring the frog foot and warthog over from portal
upbeat gust
A jet cannot.
maybe because of the speed?
pine roost
This is exactly why i liked bf1 aircraft better. They were defeatable and not s...
bf1 aircraft have been my favourite so far
the ones I learned to fly in
next onyx
Don't need to reply ping I'm right here.
spiral folio
Yea angle of attack goes down as speed increases
spiral folio
Eventually youre going so fast you can only stay on target for a short time
I saw this one jet on the oil map seriously fly over this tank loke 20 times. He got so predictable i took it out with a lis rocket
pine roost
even if you slow down, your momentum takes so long to centre itself that you have no time to do anything. and since bullets now consider your own momentum when firing it leads to so much inconsistency that just feels awful
spiral folio
Yea then if you slow down everyone and their dog is on you
upbeat gust
I saw this one jet on the oil map seriously fly over this tank loke 20 times. ...
oh btw a fact about lis
spiral folio
Like literally their rangers will probsbly start shooting you
upbeat gust
lis means fox in polish, which is because she has a ginger ponytail-like hairstyle.
next onyx
Ginger.
upbeat gust
just a little thing i overheard
spiral folio
It could also be short for Lisbeth thats ny headcanon
She doesnt LOOK polish to me
I know there's red hair germans and the name lisbeth shows up a few times in some crappy 80s fairy tale cartoons
Not sure if that's the name in the original stories
royal trail
can someone explain how exactly it is that Zain get his wounds treated by shooting someone else to death?
spiral folio
And memorable lines like
"Kep Gowehrng"
"Sweat and deremhnmhshn thets arhrl it teks"
"Relarding wepen"
gritty stratus
can someone explain how exactly it is that Zain get his wounds treated by shooti...
The adrenaline rush associated with taking a persons life lol
ancient peak
NANOMACHINES
royal trail
lol
ancient peak
SON*
royal trail
his ability just doesnt make any sense to me
low timber
Who knows what those prosthetic legs are filled with
prime pelican
I was using it for anti ground vehicles effectively with the agm and 30mm but ye...
What makes you say they suck against helis?
royal swan
What vehicle is he talking about
arctic grove
What makes you say they suck against helis?
I guess it’s just the 30mms tbh, I mean 25mm spread is pretty tight, but 30 sucks against the attacks and stuff. They have small silhouettes so they’re not easy to hit, although I realize that as I type that message out
spiral folio
-lock on-
-always flares-
lilac dust
can someone explain how exactly it is that Zain get his wounds treated by shooti...
We don't ask questions in 2042. We don't try to understand it. We FEEL it.
spiral folio
-turn. Turn... turn....-
-lock on-
-launch-
-more flares-
royal swan
If this is about the wildcat then we got a problem
lilac dust
LMAO. I had a feeling that reply was meant for me somehow
royal swan
No way this was about the wildcat
prime pelican
I guess it’s just the 30mms tbh, I mean 25mm spread is pretty tight, but 30 suck...
Yeah I guess that's probably the case. But a good jet pilot with full a2a loadout can shred helis, especially if they attack when the heli is going for ground targets (higher stinger chance)
At least it feels that way from the heli perspective, I don't really fly jets
arctic grove
Yeah I guess that's probably the case. But a good jet pilot with full a2a loadou...
I hear ya I also pilot helis occasionally myself. The F35 especially can do some work to helis with radars and vtol mode
prime pelican
Timing is huge
spiral folio
Less flares would be a big change
prime pelican
If just 1 person locks on with a stinger somewhere near the time a jet attacks, totally changes the dynamic
royal swan
Y'all know two-three good strafs with a jet can kill a transport heli
spiral folio
And restricting map borders for aircraft in kaleidoscope
prime pelican
Less flares would be a big change
Please don't murder attack helis even more lol
royal swan
I'm including the fire and forget missiles
spiral folio
Just for transports
royal swan
The fire and forget missiles on the jets are just something
spiral folio
Either less hp or less flares but the absolute doing whatever the hell they want is old
low timber
@next onyx got the shotgun yesterday, and the Green laser is +9 when the Blue is +6? 
prime pelican
Either less hp or less flares but the absolute doing whatever the hell they want...
Which air vehicle are you talking about though, which one is still OP?
spiral folio
I dont think helis in general should get 200% free reign over the map ie hiding behind enemy lines.
But transports particularly need corrective action
next onyx
<@267109533388636160> got the shotgun yesterday, and the Green laser is +9 when ...
Who knows lol.
spiral folio
Thats why i said transports like 80 times
next onyx
I'm wondering why it has both in the first place.
low timber
Hopefully it’s just a stats error
royal swan
I haven't played in a while, college is eating my time
low timber
As I kinda want the blue for the shotgun, but stats > looks
royal swan
Those xp lobbies are still around making people finish the bp already
pine roost
i feel like when they buffed the 25s they forgot to buff the 30s
prime pelican
Thats why i said transports like 80 times
Idk man, I haven't been killed once by a transport since season 3 launched. Once actually when I tried to fly a stealth heli and got rammed by the condor bus lmao
next onyx
To be fair.
spiral folio
Transports also transport
next onyx
Blue and green aren't so different Marse.
royal swan
If you find anyone who got past 50-60 on the bp don't congratulate them they fucking cheated their way with xp grinds servers
low timber
Have you tested them?
spiral folio
So like some asshole in a transport dropping fers off on buildings everywhere and then when it finally gets hit? Hides behind a building so far behind your own spawn you can't reach
royal swan
Also fix air to vehicle combat and add mortars
spiral folio
Wut
low timber
I wonder though how much more visibly the blue/green are Vs the red one to the enemies
spiral folio
Airplane mortars?
spiral folio
Vehicle to air combat is required first
royal swan
These jets and helis gotta kill wildcats as fast as the wildcats kill them
spiral folio
Yea but only AA can A A
Anything can kill a ground vehicle
royal swan
True but they feel too aggressive
I played wildcats before and an aggressive wildcat denies enemy air completely
spiral folio
Tanks also cant fly entirely off the map and hide to repair. Theyre always vulnerable
They also cant go straight up 9000 ft and hide and repair
kindred flint
I wonder though how much more visibly the blue/green are Vs the red one to the e...
The other day I saw someones blue laser poking out of a corner trying to ambush me 
didn't work out for him
lilac dust
Oooh baby Tier 1 Rorsch acquired! 🥳
royal swan
Tanks also cant fly entirely off the map and hide to repair. Theyre always vuln...
Back of the map, all eyes on the sky and ground, with repair man aggressive
spiral folio
I really dont have an asston of sympathy for aircraft theyre given every chance in the universe to be broken
spiral folio
The 2nd one is ok at both but the first is better for purely AA
royal swan
The first is always better
spiral folio
Some dingus bailed an AA earlier and i took it and downed the transport in seconds
royal swan
I can shoot in their spawn at some locations
spiral folio
Blazed guns at it, rocket while guns cooled, back to guns
royal swan
If I can hit you, you ain't safe
spiral folio
The 2nd gun is very ok but yiu have to be damn accurate
prime pelican
They also cant go straight up 9000 ft and hide and repair
I don't really know why you are getting this impression that air vehicles can just escape so easily. If they want to be able to do anything, they always have to expose themselves.
In any battlefield games aircraft could hide at the edge of the map if they wanted to, you just won't accomplish anything lol
spiral folio
3rd gun just makes it a light tank
royal swan
The first gun I abuse to make the helis unable to repair
spiral folio
I don't really know why you are getting this impression that air vehicles can ju...
Because it happens a billion times a day
prime pelican
And now with rail guns you can't really even do that anymore in 2042
spiral folio
"This has always been the way" is not a defense of a bad idea
royal swan
Even if it ain't enough to kill them, damaging them and keeping them damaged will likely get them killed
spiral folio
And now with rail guns you can't really even do that anymore in 2042
Correction, just less
prime pelican
Even if it ain't enough to kill them, damaging them and keeping them damaged wil...
Exactly. And if they truly do hide because you are attacking them? Well you just denied the other team an air vehicle
spiral folio
Ive been on board where mfers are so high up you cant see the map
royal swan
I doubt that
lilac dust
what's better on the new pistol? Semi or burst?
prime pelican
Correction, just less
Sure, but that less is not something to complain about from your perspective
spiral folio
Another biiig problem
The game doesnt value "just damaging"
royal swan
If I even see a dot on the map that ain't a smudge or part of the map I'm shooting
spiral folio
They need to totally rework the scoreboard bs to encourage stupid people to help more
prime pelican
They need to totally rework the scoreboard bs to encourage stupid people to help...
That is absolutely true
spiral folio
Cause some people think theyre only helping the team if theyre higher on the scoreboard
royal swan
More anti lone wolf would be great
spiral folio
If you constantly hit a helicopter and it never dies
Your score will be 0
prime pelican
Nerfing practical heli survivability even more than it already is seems like way overkill to me
royal swan
I know it's a good play style but come on
prime pelican
If you constantly hit a helicopter and it never dies
Your score will be 0
That would be a good change
To get more points for damage
spiral folio
Transports should have id say... like 1 less hit from a rocket at least.
And yea maybe rework scoring
Cause it sucks
next onyx
The game rewards you heavily if you attack the objective and getting lots of kills.
That's how I've been playing it since.
spiral folio
Yea you can see the multiplier on the score voard
royal swan
You ain't going to cheese your way to the top via damage xp
spiral folio
2x for kills 3x for flags
0 for killing a tank being repaired
0 for damaging helos to keep it off us
Etc
royal swan
Was the jav in bf3 a fire and forget rocket with no lock on
Or was it a lock on
The bf3 portal jav locks on
spiral folio
If you kill a chopper the pilot bails you get a "forced bail" for ONLY the pilot not all 5 on it also
Also
Forced bail is only xp not "score"
prime pelican
Yeah, I'd does seem odd to complain about these things now when they are getting better, that doesn't mean they wouldn't be good changes still tough
spiral folio
Ideally
Screw the scoreboard lets do what it takes to win
But tons of simpletons dont think that way
royal swan
Yoooo just realized we might get the marksman bonus
spiral folio
Id wager a good chunk of the playerbase lives their life by their ranking in the scoreboard
spiral folio
I mean these are the same people that kill themselves reaching for their dropped phone so they can get likes doing dangerous selfies
royal swan
And the leaker temporyal said so
spiral folio
Taking out equipment too shoukd give something
Since theres so much of it
I shot 3 spawners dead in one shot cause people clustered em all together. Almost 4
Nah all you get is a job well done pat on the back "gj kid ya saved the flag... well the guy thst died 20 times getting 20 kills to the people that kept spawning from it will get the awards but thanks"
royal swan
Fucking internet connection
spiral folio
Just rank the list by xp again. That worked fine before
royal swan
I can use discord easily but when it comes to YouTube it decides to struggle like it's on one bar
royal swan
Bro it's buggy
spiral folio
Mine says 5g here but it sure doesnt act like it
spiral folio
Wasnt 5G sposed to save us from Pharoahs wrath or something
royal swan
Maybe
humble portal
most people here are probably not on win11 latest but the last update finally fixed the game
low timber
Lol, I still haven’t got the
win one round
Weekly and I’ve had it unlocked since Tuesday
royal swan
Skill issue
spiral folio
Feelsbatman.jpg
humble portal
i like breakthrough but man it does seem hopeless at times
calm bison
Breakthrough is the greatest game to witness utter stupidity
humble portal
there are just too many people aiming at one spot
spiral folio
Its worse when you're on a bad team defending
humble portal
it basically requires most players to run smoke
btw why is both the smoke and explosions looks like ass compared to battlefield V
spiral folio
Bad team on offense is just target practice
Bad team defense is just running
humble portal
the smoke looked so good in BFV
calm bison
btw why is both the smoke and explosions looks like ass compared to battlefield ...
I feel like the explosions look fine but smoke looks a little funky
royal swan
Wait does the upgraded railgun on the railgun tank two shot other tanks in what it's mode called
calm bison
Siege
humble portal
i honestly think the explosions looks most realistic in like battlefield 4 era
low timber
Both modes deal the same damage I believe, it’s just the charge time getting cut to 1/3 or smaller
royal swan
Yeah, on siege, does it two shot tanks with the upgraded railgun
low timber
No
humble portal
explosions looked good in bfv too, but still bf4 might be best
low timber
Like even LATV4 is a two shot with both I think? But with the more powerful they are left with ~5? HP after the first shot
low timber
So just quickly tap it with the HMG 
royal swan
My internet won't have YouTube work
And now it's struggling with discord
It's always something with the building I'm in
It slows it down or down right blocks signal
It pisses me off so fucking much
Lmao it wouldn't load anything
spiral folio
My kld work had a metal building so the phone would be able to send usually but not get the signal back that said "ok sent"
So it would keep sending on discord
So like any time my signal went weak itd send the same message over and over
kindred flint
Yikes that sweaty as fuck k30 zain player posting his speed up gameplay clips video on the sub
The fucking crouch spamming is what gets me, apparently it's an apex thing? how can this possibly make your aiming more precise dice..holy shit stop this stupid tech
spiral folio
I had some rail sniper pinning me down yesterday
-pull up lis rocket-
[Shoop]
-crouch spam-
:v
kindred flint
Dude misses most of his drum mag anyway... maybe if they weren't molesting the crouch it would be easier to aim 
royal swan
Oh yeah as a new railgun main I get targeted by lis
But
They never kill me with the rocket
kindred flint
Skill issue if you can snipe the rockets mid air tbh
spiral folio
Well i mark my targets
royal swan
I did that
spiral folio
And come in high
kindred flint
Good, I was only saying if you perhaps didn't do that you'd be trash at the game
kindred flint
I also use irish
spiral folio
I find best results are like fire 90ish or more off target, then immelman turn back and it gives yoh more time to zero on the target
"Meesahl heet dey deeget!"
royal swan
The only thing killing me is flankers, other railgun snipers, or regular snipers I didn't see or kill
kindred flint
I really need to run Irish for a couple matches while zain still hot to finish his t1
spiral folio
And less
"Schlaus bitte"
kindred flint
I didn't really abuse it during the stranded start
kindred flint
Rail gun just cringe everywhere 
spiral folio
Pop up a few times and duck to avoid the charge
"Ok..." -launch rocket-
royal swan
Fails because the sniper is a irish main
kindred flint
i was quite happy with my 3 kills on the same stealth pilot last night
spiral folio
Whats irishs special skill?
royal swan
He has a trophy system
spiral folio
-sends another-
kindred flint
100% one of them was complete luck, but I hope they got really annoyed
royal swan
It counters rockets, nades, mortars, anything but a tank shell
royal swan
You can't kill Irish with explosives you gotta kill him with bullets
spiral folio
I can keep tryin
spiral folio
Doesnt it have a cool down
spiral folio
The devs know its not a forcefield right?
Like the trophy system is like a shotgun going off
They both do run out and arent silent
royal swan
Idk it destroys any explosive that a player has
spiral folio
And then when it does work... the rocket STILL EXPLODES
royal swan
It destroys the rocket and the explosion
spiral folio
Yes they dont know how it works then
I mean im shocked
Like when the rocket is destroyed, it detonates
spiral folio
It doesnt just like... atomize into lavender scented dust
royal swan
He can also place a shield
shell ermine
What does it matter what it does in real life?
spiral folio
It's literally "I eat grenades" from battlefield heroes
spiral folio
Its pretty stupid how it functions ingame
royal swan
Tho the shield is tough to destroy
Strange you had no idea what Irish does a year later
royal swan
It un exist most explosives
spiral folio
I didnt start really using em tol lis
royal swan
It also counters Zain
spiral folio
And really i didnt play the game much before that
I can get like low damage from bombs byt 100% permanent immunity is stupid
shell ermine
One interesting thing with MW2 is that if a player uses an explosive near an enemy trophy system it can damage and kill the player and count as a kill for the player who placed the trophy system
spiral folio
Yea the trophy devices are like directed explosive reactive armor
They're not a magic forcefield
More like a claymore
So like they launch stuff that hits a rocket. Rocket goes off early. Can't do as much damage.
spiral folio
A personal one would be really kinda stupid
Cause once the system works its like a bomb going off. And then it hits the rocket. Rocket is either exploded or shattered into tons of pieces.
Physics still exists so those pieces continue in motion
sharp marten
When’s the next update in dec?
royal swan
Lis rockets could be destroyed
spiral folio
I mean. I know ive seen rockets just "not hit people" but i didnt realise somebody had some bs forcefield
It "should" just detonate it and do minimal damage not 100% neutralize it
royal swan
Besides most of the lis rockets I didn't have my trophy system out and I just dodge them by running
Very easy as they don't have good splash damage
So lis could kill Irish but they would be moving around dodging it
If they know it's coming of course
spiral folio
Yea like practically speaking mounting an explosive device on infantry to protect them from a rocket attack even if it did 100% stop the rocket doesnt make sense but...
"Hey lets add this bf heroes skill to 2042"
royal swan
Which is easy as you can see and hear it
spiral folio
I just think its kinda funny
royal swan
Yeah lmao they nerfed it
So lis can bypass the trophy system
But it's already hard enough to kill a moving dodging player
Even on pc
spiral folio
Yea like i barely go after running people unless im just outta gas
royal swan
But the M5 rocket launcher can be countered by the Irish trophy system
spiral folio
Guess that explains though why id have rockets just die randomly
royal swan
They were probably shot down
Miniguns are good against them
Also whats funny about the trophy system is that if multiple things are thrown at it at the same time being M5 rocket or nades it will destroy all of them
atomic musk
Is it hard to find a lobby in 2042?
royal swan
No
crimson basin
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/z86gj8/so_when_are_they_nerfing_this_mf/
TotalFPS replied to the thread. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Mackay needs a rework.
lilac dust
https://clips.twitch.tv/UgliestPrettiestSamosaKlappa-xznNHu8c54sHveYa The fact that none of these people are AI is FUCKING GLORIOUS 🤣
silk surge
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/z86gj8/so_when_are_they_nerfin...
Mackay Strafe hasn't really been a problem on console because of how much harder it is to ADAD spam with joystick while aiming.
spiral folio
Well i can tell when theyre shot for sure
I wish you could pause the grapple
Like swing from things with it
Anchor it to the ground.
Grapple enemy chopper flying low.
crimson basin
Just give him the hardline hook
kindred flint
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/z86gj8/so_when_are_they_nerfin...
I mentioned this last night saying total fps is just trolling at this point right?
spiral folio
Extend grapple 1000% and have a spiderman outfit for him
digital turret
Hello guys, i have an issue, in bf3 mode G button dont work and 8 cant repair my vehicle. Can i fix this somehow?
crimson basin
I mentioned this last night saying total fps is just trolling at this point righ...
Idk maybe. It's just too big of an issue to overlook
dapper river
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/z86gj8/so_when_are_they_nerfin...
just aim better lmao
kindred flint
Well the other day he was asking someone what their feedback was on the throwing knives lol
spiral folio
Whats the issue with mackay? ... going onto things?
dapper river
Whats the issue with mackay? ... going onto things?
and strafe speed while ADS
kindred flint
Like dude look at bfvs throwing knives for fuck sakes, sometimes these devs are just embarrassing 
calm bison
That’s the core issue
spiral folio
Whats ads?
calm bison
Aiming down sights
dense sail
any tips on how to get the most damage possible with the sentry gun?
spiral folio
Is it like a bug or his special skill
calm bison
Special skill
spiral folio
Weird
dapper river
it's his trait
calm bison
He has a grappling hook but his passive is that he can move better while aiming down sights
kindred flint
His passive is faster ads and Zipline speed
calm bison
This gives him a substantial buff when it comes to firefights since he can move faster than some can aim
spiral folio
I thought his passive was the whole "faster on ziplines" but i dont really pay attention hard
kindred flint
It's stupid for the devs to give one specialist better movement speed where they know it's been abused in the past
dapper river
I think he's fine as-is ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hell, none of the specialists are what I would consider "overpowered". Maybe a nerf to Falk's self-heal rate to bring it closer to Zain's speed? If anything, some of the specialists could use buffs.
calm bison
And given how potent he is with a solo playstyle his the most likely to be broken with the class rework
kindred flint
The reddit thread there does a great job explaining it with their past sentiment on the issue
spiral folio
Well mackay wont have any ammo post class nerf so
kindred flint
Most Mackay sweats aren't even running ammo
calm bison
I mean I usually find ammo around the battlefield or die before I run out so this isn’t a problem
dapper river
Well mackay wont have any ammo post class nerf so
or beacons 
spiral folio
Yea everyone loses
dapper river
ivory canopy
I don't run ammo as any class tbh
spiral folio
Though if theres one specialist that shouldnt have beacons its mackay cause man...
calm bison
This dude acting like people never give out ammo
dapper river
I don't run ammo as any class tbh
Ammo box as falk for unlimited smoke grenades 
calm bison
Mans hasn’t played BF4 before
proper crystal
Hey, I don’t seem to be able to finish the requirements for a background on my profile: It requires me to inflict 250 damage with sundance’s anti-armor smart explosive, but it doesn’t seem to count 😦
spiral folio
I carry an ammo box for myself. The class nerf will ruin my crossbow guy
calm bison
Ok then just play support specialists
proper crystal
Hey, I don’t seem to be able to finish the requirements for a background on my p...
Does anyone have any clue around this?
keen quiver
Hey, how can we access the free trial what is the procedure if someone can explain
calm bison
Falck and Angel are good specialists
ivory canopy
Does anyone have any clue around this?
Are you trying to hit vehicles or infantry?
calm bison
And given that Irish is being moved to support he can help better defend sites while keeping his team alive
spiral folio
My current favorite is like mackay with a crossbow batmanning around
proper crystal
Are you trying to hit vehicles or infantry?
Vehicles, and i did more than once
spiral folio
Or lis for vehicle trolling
proper crystal
I must do something wrong
ivory canopy
Hmm... idk
dapper river
Hey, how can we access the free trial what is the procedure if someone can expla...
be subscribed to EA Play, use the EA desktop client
ivory canopy
Try using the scatter grenade and see how that works.
spiral folio
Set an ammo box down pop exploder arrows at vehicles and the occasional rocket
dapper river
Oh the free trial for "everyone" doesn't go live until later this or next week
keen quiver
be subscribed to EA Play, use the EA desktop client
EA Subscription is mandatory in order to play trial?
spiral folio
Tomorrow i think
calm bison
As a vehicle player, the class rework is welcome as now I know what specialists to kill first
dapper river
EA Subscription is mandatory in order to play trial?
ivory canopy
They nerfed the transport 50mm so hard
calm bison
They kinda do given how everyone can carry an M5 recoilless
Specifically tanks
Tanks will benefit from this
spiral folio
Its your own fault for being 20ft wide
keen quiver
alright
spiral folio
Tanks and transports are like the 2 things thst needed a buff least of all
calm bison
Excuse me while I go talk to the US department of defense and discuss how their Abrams is 20ft too wide
dapper river
shit, and by "later this week" I meant "tomorrow" lol
kindred flint
It should be none feet wide
keen quiver
How much has the game improved since the beta launch?
spiral folio
Yea and the dod also kinda doesnt field tanks in areas where they can get downed
ivory canopy
I mean, they should nerf the 40mmGL on transports a bit but buff the 50mm cannon in some way.
dapper river
How much has the game improved since the beta launch?
tremendously, they fixed many issues, I'm happy to say this game is finally out of Early Access
ivory canopy
50mm cannon transports are laughably bad
kindred flint
How much has the game improved since the beta launch?
I mean it's worth what ever you'll end up paying for it when it's on sale 
Should get your money's worth from that
calm bison
Yea and the dod also kinda doesnt field tanks in areas where they can get downed
Tanks may play differently in BT but in CQ it’s a fucking challenge to play them without being targeted instantly
dapper river
50mm cannon transports are laughably bad
they already tried buffing the 50mm.
ivory canopy
30mm cannon off a Bolte
kindred flint
tremendously, they fixed many issues, I'm happy to say this game is finally out ...
Out of early access... into ea access?
spiral folio
Dual minigun for the front guy
next onyx
shit, and by "later this week" I meant "tomorrow" lol
It's funny how fast time can pass sometimes.
kindred flint
Transports shouldn't even have a front gun...
spiral folio
A dual .50cal front gun would be way better
kindred flint
Or give the front a mini gun and the sides 40mm with lower ammo
calm bison
Twin Ma Deuce’s would be welcome
next onyx
Unironically I wouldn't mind a closer ranged 30 MM cannon for the transports if it meant they cannot use their 40mm and 50mm.
spiral folio
A 50mm doesnt even make sense really
calm bison
ENEMY AC130 ABOVE
fleet hull
Tanks may play differently in BT but in CQ it’s a fucking challenge to play them...
yhhh everytime i spawn in a tank i spawn in and i get blown up by some guy in a jet
spiral folio
I mean my main wish is for transports to suffer so i should stop giving ideas
Replace all its guns with quad pf51s i mean
Since half the freakin pilots fly 20ft off the ground!
dapper river
It's funny how fast time can pass sometimes.
and people might think this peak is the all time high for Season 3 on Steam? Honey, they've got a big storm coming
mossy gust
Is 2042 worth redownloading?
next onyx
I'm glad more people are going to give the game a try.
Personally I'd say yes Mango.
And I hated the game at launch.
fleet hull
i was in a lobby in portal and there was loads of people
keen quiver
I mean it's worth what ever you'll end up paying for it when it's on sale <:Woah...
I still prefer to try the trial version before I decide to buy.
fleet hull
it’s getting much better
calm bison
Make the f35 more maneuverable or allow for more jets on the maps
fleet hull
NO PLS
fleet hull
i cba with just having one jet attacking me
mossy gust
Personally I'd say yes Mango.
I’ll give it another try then, I kinda stopped after I got my new kill record, it was an easy game
next onyx
It's an easy game but it's fun to grind.
upbeat gust
The Felon always wins a turn fight
but the f35 can switch flight modes
mossy gust
What’s y’all’s highest kill game?
upbeat gust
so you can just do exactly that and turn around
calm bison
The f35 needs a maneuverability buff
upbeat gust
while the felon will still be turning to get another shot at you
next onyx
I got 193 kills on flashback BT if i had 7 more IT WOULD OF BEEN A 200 KILL GAME.
upbeat gust
The f35 needs a maneuverability buff
i literally just proved you wrong
calm bison
but the f35 can switch flight modes
It’s a huge sitting target in VTOL mode
next onyx
So far yet so close. :[
dapper river
I love jets because:
- they're useless
- they bait the enemy team into using up an attack air slot, instead of an actually formidable asset like a stealth chopper or nightbird
next onyx
See now. Hundy bombs are sorta easy!
upbeat gust
It’s a huge sitting target in VTOL mode
but the felon will go by you, which gives you a huge chance to destroy him
next onyx
Your second point is no longer valid Uber!
fleet hull
My highest was 108
i’m still new but my highest was around 40
calm bison
I love jets because:
1. they're useless
2. they bait the enemy team into using u...
This doesn’t apply anymore
next onyx
40? That's still good!
spiral folio
Yea 35s vtol mode is barely useful outside "easy bots only"
next onyx
Keep on pushing for more!
mossy gust
i’m still new but my highest was around 40
Nice! I kinda play games for living rn so I usually get High kill games lol
dapper river
Your second point is no longer valid Uber!
oh right they messed with the vehicle categories
Yeah I've been playing mostly rush this season and there are no call-ins in that mode lol
upbeat gust
Yea 35s vtol mode is barely useful outside "easy bots only"
or baiting another jet to go infront of you
next onyx
oh right they messed with the vehicle categories
Yeah I've been playing mostly ...
"What are vehicles again?"
spiral folio
They should make the f35 into like a person sized jet so its harder to hit. And let it shoot beams from its hands
next onyx
I played Arica harbour on conquest by the way. 2 jets always and 1 attack aircraft.
next onyx
Actually kinda cool.
mossy gust
Except for cod, I am still bad at cod but mw2 is fun still
fleet hull
Nice! I kinda play games for living rn so I usually get High kill games lol
yuh tho tbh i’m only good on tanks and not much else so when i don’t have one i’m pretty tragic
upbeat gust
yuh tho tbh i’m only good on tanks and not much else so when i don’t have one i’...
I'm pretty good at everything i guess
mossy gust
I been playing battlefield since bad company so it’s not to bad
calm bison
or baiting another jet to go infront of you
The transition from vtol to flight is pretty slow so by the time you’re flying the felon pilot would already be behind you again
dapper river
If I can't put C5 on the EOD bot then I'm not using it 😤
fleet hull
2042 is my first bf game
mossy gust
Bad company on ps3 lol oh the memories
calm bison
2042 is my first bf game
Make sure to give BFV a whirl
fleet hull
ooooh maybe
spiral folio
Irl the vtol effect os for take off and landing anyway not hovering around to attack
fleet hull
i got bf 2042 cause it was 60% off and it was a massive bargain
calm bison
If you think planes are bad in this game you’ve seen nothing yet
Planes in BFV are brutal
next onyx
Yeah at 60% off it's a steal.
spiral folio
In a game where you join battle already flying its just novelty
next onyx
Brutal in a bad or good way?
fleet hull
Yeah at 60% off it's a steal.
exactlyyy
next onyx
Cause bf5 planes were good.
mossy gust
I bout the most expensive version when it came out and a few add ons lol
spiral folio
Its a wonder they even included it
fleet hull
i played the beta before and that was when i had an old xbox one
calm bison
Cause bf5 planes were good.
Brutal in that it’s annoying to play the ground game sometimes
fleet hull
on the series x it’s way better to play on
spiral folio
There's even f35s without the vtol bit
mossy gust
I’m a PlayStation guy, I got all but the ps5
fleet hull
in lore the f35e combines the a, b, and c models
spiral folio
Which is dumb
fleet hull
i like the idea
spiral folio
Because the models are different because the vtol part is heavy
fleet hull
in 2042 lockheed martin probably would have figured out how to make the f35e irl
mossy gust
Any PlayStation players wanna play after I redownload it?
spiral folio
So some branches didnt want vtol f35s and some nations didnt need it
So like they can use the space for more fuel or whatever
fleet hull
i like the f35b cause the royal navy uses it
spiral folio
But yea like the a b or c arent successors theyre just alternate versions
Like buying a hybrid or a car with a good engine
Of all the rooms this server has why isnt tech support one
dapper river
just found out the Bad Company 2 smiley face in 2042 was changed due to copyright
spiral folio
next onyx
Did you find out some official news regarding that?
next onyx
Oh god the grenade doesn't even have it anymore.
I literally just saw that.
Yeah.
It can assumed it was of copyright.
dapper river
spiral folio
Who owns the copyright
dapper river
"The Smiley Company"
spiral folio
It doesnt even seem like something you could
next onyx
You'd be surprised.
And the creators of it wouldn't like their product being used in a video game about war.
spiral folio
Well to have a copyright it has to be associated with the copyright holder
dapper river
They are Fr*nch 
spiral folio
Ie you couldn't apply for a copyright on the walmart logo even if they didnt have a copyright on it
The pepe guy tried fighting it too but its a lost cause. He's legally in the right but the internet won that by brute force
sour meadow
does Sundance's grenades count towards the throwable mission this week?
spiral folio
Yea they're from some awful kids book or something
Thats why you dont see pepes on official servers though
dapper river
does Sundance's grenades count towards the throwable mission this week?
Probably not, through some coding oversight. I remember them not counting in an early weekly mission from like season 1 or pre-season. It's safe to assume only throwables in the throwable slot will count.
sour meadow
Probably not, through some coding oversight. I remember them not counting in an ...
shame
spiral folio
There's been such bad coding oversights in wouldn't be surprised if you could reload a grenade and have a magazine capacity of 1+1
My favorite was the "5+1" "mag" size in the .44 revolver
spiral folio
Fire all 6 rounds from a revolver
-load 5 in a speedloader-
-hit reload again-
-empty out 1 empty and 5 full rounds-
-load 6 rounds-
dapper river
There's been such bad coding oversights in wouldn't be surprised if you could re...
Spawn beacons used to be "reloadable", if you resupplied one off an Angel crate, before placing it you'd have to press "reload" and it would play a jank animation 
See: 3:15
spiral folio
Yea the revolvers still my favorite cause its so obvious what happened
next onyx
I got a really bad freeze frame image on Angel and I'm not sure what to feel.
calm bison
Day 5312891 of asking DICE to add the Tiger 2 to BFV
spiral folio
I fired a lis rocket at really close range and it held the buzzing sound for like a full minute after. That was hell
Like when you launch it does that "beebeep bzzzz!"
And it held the bzzz part
I almost had to launch another to unstick it
dapper river
Day 5312891 of asking DICE to add the Tiger 2 to BFV
So you've been asking DICE to add the Tiger 2 to BFV for 14,555 years?
spiral folio
Amazing
spiral folio
I mean... there werent a lot of tiger2s
calm bison
They still haven’t noticed me
mossy gust
I’m redownloading it rn yay lol, PlayStation sounds like it finna explode
dapper river
I mean... there werent a lot of tiger2s
there weren't a lot of MP-18s yet DICE made them standard issue in BF1 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
calm bison
I mean... there werent a lot of tiger2s
Only like 400
next onyx
SD DRIVE GO VROOOOM.
mossy gust
My PlayStation so old tho, it’s a limited edition one, it came with the game call of duty ww2
spiral folio
Like 500ish tiger2s 1200ish tiger1s
Most of the myth of the tiger1 is the fact there were like 10000 panzer4s and from a distance they look like tigers
mossy gust
So it’s old asf lol
upbeat gust
My PlayStation so old tho, it’s a limited edition one, it came with the game cal...
i have an xbox 360, cant beat me
mossy gust
i have an xbox 360, cant beat me
My personal opinion, but Xbox sucks. I don’t like the controllers. The only thing I like bout Xbox is that they got halo
spiral folio
What does
calm bison
German tanks in WW2
spiral folio
They actually skipped one i think
calm bison
The Löwe
spiral folio
Cause one of the panzers didnt make it
calm bison
Panzer 7
fiery dawn
SD DRIVE GO VROOOOM.
I got an M.2 drive like a week ago and it RIPS
calm bison
Panzer Models 1-4 go by the Panzer (Number) model
upbeat gust
My personal opinion, but Xbox sucks. I don’t like the controllers. The only thin...
i personally disagree but i respect your opinion
calm bison
Tank models after 4 are where the naming schemes kick in
The Panzer 5 was the Panther
spiral folio
The panzer 1 and 2 were like the france and poland ones
calm bison
Panzer 6 were both Tiger variants
fiery dawn
Oh wait you said SD, I thought you meant SSD
calm bison
Panzer 8 is the Maus
spiral folio
Most of what the US fought were 3s and 4s
calm bison
The 3s and 4s were used heavily in the invasion of France
mossy gust
i personally disagree but i respect your opinion
Honestly if they changed the controller, I’d use it more
calm bison
Tigers were admittedly rare but US forces still encountered them
spiral folio
Really rare
calm bison
The most likely encountered the most Tiger 2s in Bastogne
next onyx
I got an M.2 drive like a week ago and it RIPS
I got a Samsung 980 and it works so well.
calm bison
Which I believe that famous image of American GIs standing atop Tiger 312 comes from
spiral folio
If you find a picture with the pz4 and tiger next to each other you can see how they could get mistaken
upbeat gust
Honestly if they changed the controller, I’d use it more
honestly i like the controllers more than the ps ones
calm bison
They do have a similar look at a glance
spiral folio
Especially like dawn and dusk
upbeat gust
but ill be honest Mad Dog makes the best controllers in my opinion
spiral folio
Theyre almost the same height too
calm bison
At the end of the day it didn’t matter what it was because it was usually dead by then
Also there’s that famous story of the M8 greyhound that valiantly eliminated a Tiger 2
Which is disputed
spiral folio
Well its possible just eh
mossy gust
honestly i like the controllers more than the ps ones
I respect ur opinion my man
spiral folio
Like the rear armor of tigers was like almost nothing
calm bison
Well its possible just eh
It’s entirely possible but there’s plenty of reason to doubt it
There’s a whole treasure trove of accounts and records of this event that all have different stuff about it
Until we invent a time machine to confirm this stuff we’ll never really know
Until we do
spiral folio
Yea a 37mm gun to the bacl plate or vents is "possible" but man youd have to just light it like a pile of coals soaked in lighter fluid
fiery dawn
I got a Samsung 980 and it works so well.
Yup that’s the one I have. It’s awesome
calm bison
It is nice to see BFV include the StuG IV
was it likely because DICE wanted to reuse the Pz IV chassis?
Yes
But I rarely see anything about this tank
spiral folio
Isn't stug a pz3 chassis
next onyx
Tds unfortunately are just bad in 5.
calm bison
Yes
calm bison
Tds unfortunately are just bad in 5.
The Archer was good
spiral folio
Ah nm
spiral folio
Pz3 and 4 were really close anyway
calm bison
The closest modern day TD’s are those weird door stop tanks Sweden has
spiral folio
Yea casemount guns dont quite fit modern battles
daring needle
are ea services working?
i cant launch naything?
mossy gust
I got banned in the r6 discord server years ago, and I remembered that now bc I was trying to rejoin it but I can’t lol. R6 is one of my fav games tho
spiral folio
Dont do that
calm bison
I feel like it was partially a mistake to put the US on Panzerstorm without giving them access to more tanks
Something like an M10 or M24 could’ve helped immensely
spiral folio
Panzerstorm?
calm bison
The big ass 8v8 tank map in Belgium in BFV
spiral folio
Guess it depends what era it takes place
calm bison
1944
real pawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgK89fLZ_s&ab_channel=DANNYonPC
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
spiral folio
Or the jackson
calm bison
I would say the Wolverine since the M10 in Portal looks like it could be a BFV asset
spiral folio
By 44 youd have E8 shermans too
calm bison
I mean we can’t just shoehorn a Pershing in there
spiral folio
M10 is the wolverine
jackson/slugger is the m36 i think
M18 is the hellcat which would also be a good one
Same 76mm as the E8 but faster
The jackson had the 90mm
calm bison
I just unlocked the Pershing in WoT
spiral folio
The Pershing arrived in basically no real numbers too
calm bison
Everything is so expensive XP-wise
spiral folio
Yea it gets rough past 8
calm bison
Luckily I have 18 days of premium
I may have paid WG $15 for one of the season pass tracks
spiral folio
I do play wot sometime, its part of why I don't use tanks much on bf
1 ammo type. Armor doesnt matter. Movement physics
kindred flint
When did this channel get renamed to wot/wt chat?
honest spire
so i just bought this game the other day on sale...and its only this game....but the mouse feels really laggy? or its often feels like it moves on its own? If i look to the left or right really fast sometimes it feels like it keeps moving in that direction..anyone have that?
spiral folio
When did this channel get renamed to wot/wt chat? <:leo:760110335687524423>
When nobody was saying anything and people were talking about tanks
Its just natural people would talk about better portrayals of tanks
fiery shoal
so apparently most of the problem that was attributed to input delay or whatever is really a bug with recoil
midnight hawk
masteries stop counting at t3 in bot lobbies?
tacit sphinx
yes
you can get to the level where you have all useful unlocks against bots/in limited progression servers, past that you need full progression enabled
spiral folio
Bot battles are waay slower so
You can get kills racked up but i think mastery goes faster on live
midnight hawk
you can get to the level where you have all useful unlocks against bots/in limit...
many thanks
midnight hawk
Bot battles are waay slower so
breakthrough on stranded is just a steady flow of headshots
spiral folio
Yea like ive ended in the 200s on bot battles
tacit sphinx
You can get kills racked up but i think mastery goes faster on live
xp gain is slower, you can get a lot of kills vs bots depending on what you use so mastery gain can go a lot quicker but obviously stops after a point
spiral folio
Unlocking stuff for the rail took like 1 battle
arctic grove
Hello!
I'm looking for some people to play with
I'm actually playing zombie. A server I made. It's so fun and it'd be funnier to have more people to play with. Right now it has 8 slots (me included) if you would like to come and have a go. Please don't hesitate. I'll leave the server title in case someone is interested.
Krasty krab army vs plankton army. Who will win ?! [ZOMBIE]
spiral folio
....what
midnight hawk
yeah what
arctic grove
It's well modified. Soo hope you'll enjoy it 😃😃😃
spiral folio
I think... he made a 8v8 zombies server? Or 4v4?
arctic grove
8 players vs 60 bots (zombies)
spiral folio
Ah ok i think the weird spongbibroleplay stuff inserted made it confusing
tacit sphinx
krasty krab
arctic grove
Yeah, i wanted to give an original idea instead of saying zombies vs humans bla bla
spiral folio
A rose by any other name
arctic grove
It has all maps and vehicles. It's a one shot one kill. So you aren't frustrated to use all the mag to kill one
What ? Haha
arctic grove
I'm sorry, i do apologize if this is wrong section
I'm new
How do I share that server over there?
Also, I modified the server on thier website, can I save it or i need to do again everything?
spiral folio
I dont know. I've never had to
thorny orchid
2042 returned to top 25 xbox played yay
hopefully this means dice puts good effort into year 2
atleast 3 maps a season 🙏
fiery shoal
im still surprised they are supporting it for another year, good thing for those who want to keep playing it
3 maps is a BIG ask imo
thorny orchid
im praying 🙏
spiral folio
Hopefully they also add a dirndl outfit for Lis
fiery shoal
yea itd be dope, but yeesh that sounds like a lot of work
thorny orchid
If we can get big playercounts maybe they put more devs back on the game
honest spire
i hope also...just got it for 20 the other day...figured they doing 'classes' i would try it out haha
thorny orchid
im assuming on xbox its around 20k rn
solid torrent
2042 returned to top 25 xbox played yay
Where u see that?
fiery shoal
i think they care more about MTX purchases
thorny orchid
Where u see that?
Go to the store
then games
then most played
its there and the xbox one version
most games on there are free to play or on gamepass lol
lilac dust
https://twitter.com/NEOMOXAGON/status/1592985867668299779 Wait wut ... I just got an ad for Stranded and Spearhead
fiery shoal
ok numbers, but this is also only 1/5 of sources for players
steam, origin, epic, ps, and xbox
thorny orchid
im assuming there is probably more on ea play
next onyx
Oh that's right everyone's going to sleep.
fiery shoal
i would personally 2-3x the steam numbers for the total amount of players playing across all platforms
so imo 15-20k players on right now, not bad at all
thorny orchid
tomorrow there should be a lot more on xbox if u dont need gold to play the game
solid torrent
Way more than 2-3x
fiery shoal
itd be nice to actually get numbers but 🤷
thorny orchid
The top 50 most played xbox games are very active
fiery shoal
as long as people who want to play can get full lobbies quickly with good ping thats all i care about
thorny orchid
n they added tdm for aow
solid torrent
They added it this week
solid torrent
n they added tdm for aow
In the rush section
honest spire
so i didnt really pay much attention to the lore of 2042...but it is alwasy US vs RU? I thought the no PAT thing was the solders didn't belong to a faction
next onyx
No pat work under either flag to secure their future.
stable veldt
I can't keep focus with BF2042. The game still runs like complete rubbish on my machine, a year later. Hogging CPU usage instead of GPU.
ancient peak
^easiest way to understand
next onyx
Battlefield has always been more dependant on the CPU because of the large player counts.
This one is even more so.
honest spire
i see...i wish they did more lore into the game
sour meadow
when you revive your nuts off in breakthrough and reach the last sector but your team keeps back-and-forthing from points
honest spire
it does feel really odd that the characters are the same on both sides...like a US Falck and a RU Falck...so odd
dense hedge
i expect atleast 40k players on the ps playing the game
dense hedge
ok numbers, but this is also only 1/5 of sources for players
and more xbox players than ever because of the gamepass thing
thorny orchid
I can't keep focus with BF2042. The game still runs like complete rubbish on my...
get the series s. it runs at 60 fps locked
and its like $200 rn
fiery shoal
and more xbox players than ever because of the gamepass thing
ah shit yea forgot it was on gamepass
time to pad stats
stable veldt
get the series s. it runs at 60 fps locked
Running an Intel I9 and a 3080ti with 128gb RAM
thorny orchid
o
stable veldt
It's just packet loss city
stable veldt
And my GPU is hardly working
fiery shoal
2042 cpu bound
its not the normal approach, but JUST being cpu bound doesnt mean it runs like rubbish
spiral folio
You won't need more than 32g of ram unless you're like... rendering detailed massive assemblies in solidworks or something
Or making movies
stable veldt
Seems like any server I jump into, even on portal with the ping at 30 - 50, I'm either lagging, or floating, or slow motioning across the screen.
honest spire
i got an i7 8700k and its pegged at 100 while playing
fiery shoal
Seems like any server I jump into, even on portal with the ping at 30 - 50, I'm ...
definitely not normal so cant really tell you whats wrong, but your problem isnt "game runs bad because its cpu bound"
spiral folio
Ive got like a i7 so old i cant run windows 11 , a 1060 6gig card, and 32g of ddr3
fiery shoal
damn you have ddr3? so thats gotta be a 6th gen?
honest spire
maybe i will try closing out my 50 chrome tabs?
spiral folio
Like 2017
fiery shoal
actually.. 6700k was ddr4, so thats a 4th gen intel
spiral folio
It runs 2042 fine
steel citrus
Gave 2042 a second chance Since last Christmas and it’s acc decent tbf
fiery shoal
it sucks it took a year to get here and that launch was so rough, but at least they fixed their wrongs
not like that deserves commending
steel citrus
it sucks it took a year to get here and that launch was so rough, but at least t...
I’m enjoying it tbf only been on for like 30 mins lol
fiery shoal
i always come back when a new season drops, season 3 has enough content and the gameplay and optimization is fairly good now
played last night and enjoyed it
spiral folio
Id say after classes mess things up would be a good time to start
That way you wont realize how much better it was before them
Its like when harry potter moves from like their house they keep him under the stairs to the horrible farm. And hes like "at least I'm not under the stairs anymore"
honest spire
i cant wait for the 'classes' to come back 😉
spiral folio
You wait because a medic wont come
First time a medic healed me I'm like... "what the hell happened?!"
dapper river
I'd kill for generic classes that use the AI soldier models and can inherit any specialist gadget+trait. Kind of like the "milsim" operators in MW. For example you could have a Support soldier and you choose between Falk's kit, Angel's kit, or Irish's kit.
spiral folio
I wouldn't hate classes as much if i could pick any specialist
Like some obviously fit some roles better
But like some are more universal
If shield guy had a sniper rifle port though
willow sky
I'd kill for generic classes that use the AI soldier models and can inherit any ...
portal wouldve been famous back when people wanted to host conquest with no specialists, classes only
too bad that wasnt a thing
digital turret
Hello guys, i have an issue, in bf3 mode G button dont work and i cant repair my vehicle. Can i fix this somehow?
spiral folio
Look at keybinds?
digital turret
In another game mods it works
spiral folio
Most ideally
Specialist is purely cosmetic
Pick a specialist gadget which includes the specialist passive
Primary slot
Secondary slot
Gadget
Throwable
Pick what you want
And gfy if you do it wrong
And like give templates for stupid people i guess
Itd be neat if weight factored in to speeds and climbing
At some point go like "uh your extra armor guy with the 60lb rifle, extra ammo, and a rocket launcher might be slow af"
dapper river
Most ideally
Specialist is purely cosmetic
Pick a specialist gadget which includ...
Yes but that completely kills readability, you don't know who has what kit until they've already used it against you. This game already has a problem with that with some of the skins, let's not exacerbate things 
spiral folio
Well if you add more stuff it'd show up on the character
Like some guy doubletime wall running with a grapple and crossbow obviously isnt as loaded down as some guy lugging around with shit all over him
Marines had this insane body armor made for humvee gunners. Nobody wore it cause it was like 80lbs of thick armor in the desert
The solution was basically
Remote turrets
arctic grove
I'd kill for generic classes that use the AI soldier models and can inherit any ...
YESYESYESYESYEAYESYESYEYSYEYSYESYEYEYESYEYESYESYEYSYESYEYES
spiral folio
Original article about it
Scroll down to the armor and tell me thats something youd wear in 120 degree heat
Nooooobody wore em
dapper river
Protect the gunners by killing them via heat stroke so they will not experience the pain of being shot and be listed as a casualty by the enemy. 3,000 IQ plays 
spiral folio
Yea the articles all "we so smart" still cause its early on
The uparmored humvees died a lot too. Humvees as it is are like greatly capable offroad but basically made of soda cans and truck parts
arctic grove
The Humvee was good for getting around but was applied incorrectly
spiral folio
Add 2x the weight in steel and crap
Oh yea i got to drive one a couple times they devour terrain like its nothing
But a ied will turn it into its original elements instantly
spiral folio
Talking is weird
wispy haven
i remember people complaining that it was not in the game
now it is there
and absolutely no one uses it
upbeat sand
at least before i unlock k30💀
Nah screw the k30 it's all about vcar
wispy haven
vektor is op in almost every game
maybe it is op in real life too
guess i have to test it
dire quest
Railgun is op
arctic grove
Voip was a little fuel on the fire
low cypress
at least before i unlock k30💀
K30 one of the most boring guns in the game
arctic grove
I don’t really care about the specialists or open loadouts or really anything to do with them. I don’t think it’s worth trying to find a solution around when the better option is to just roll us back to faction character models and the original class system. That should, and is more than probably going to remain a constant for a few more BF games before they get experimental again
wispy haven
I like specialists more
Than previous bf games
I don’t care
I just like new system.
And I have played BF1 and BFV
low cypress
Same but sadly this is most Likely the last time we’ll see of it
wispy haven
I prefer this one.
And most of the things people complain that is missing from 2042 I did not use them in previous games
squad managment?
Never touched it
eager spire
i mean not being able to pick what squads you wanna join is a massive annoyance regardless of if you used it or not
wispy haven
For me it is not
eager spire
because it's just such a blatant regression in how things work for no reason
wispy haven
So i do not really care
eager spire
like genuinely there is no good reason that you shouldn't be able to pick what squad you wanna join
arctic grove
And I have played BF1 and BFV
That’s fine. But when it comes to the general consensus it needs to go
wispy haven
but it is not annoyance for me
arctic grove
I always have said this but I truly do think specialists were the nail in the coffin with this game and they’ll always be remembered as proof for how out of touch whoever authorized the decision was
wispy haven
Well Idk why people got worked bout specialists but I loved them and again - I prefer them than boring class limited perks/weapons.
spiral folio
like genuinely there is no good reason that you shouldn't be able to pick what s...
Yea i dont get that. Like great I'm in a squad of jerks that troll me and i can't get out. Or "itd be nice to join a squad that needed an ammo/med guy"
arctic grove
The only solution to the system as I said is to bring back what is familiar and has worked
subtle linden
ability to pick your squad is fundamental for battlefield
wispy haven
Wanna be medic and run stg? go to hell i guess
eager spire
Yea i dont get that. Like great I'm in a squad of jerks that troll me and i can...
or you know, "Hey, my friends are in a different squad from me. I wanna join them. I have to switch squads multiple times until RNG puts me in the squad i wanna be in."
wispy haven
Freak old system
arctic grove
Limited perks/weapons better define each classes role. I question what the gun proficiencies will really do to change that
wispy haven
specialists - i like them more
subtle linden
Neon bugging lmao
wispy haven
Wow allergic to diff opinion mate?
arctic grove
I mean yeah I would’ve loved to run the double barrel as a medic in BF1 but I didn’t think “this system bad”, it makes sense for the classes role
arctic grove
eager spire
Hellriegel on Medic
Martini Henry on Support
spiral folio
Medic had some nearly smg weapons though
wispy haven
they experimented and i like that and for me personally it turned out well.
eager spire
Medic had some nearly smg weapons though
more like one.
distant lance
I hope the developers actually read all the feedback because there are really some things here that people have pointed out that are really important 
arctic grove
Better defining the classes roles through both faction class models and gadget/weapon restrictions should be one of those things BF just doesn’t try to reinvent again
eager spire
the federov.
spiral folio
Or gosh
A sniper that can carry more than 30 whole bullets
arctic grove
they experimented and i like that and for me personally it turned out well.
That’s fine. I understand that, I’m just saying
wispy haven
i see
arctic grove
There’s still time to change shit so I just take hopium and copium daily
Next dose in a few minutes
subtle linden
lmaoooo
slender hare
There’s still time to change shit so I just take hopium and copium daily
still agree with your name
wispy haven
i wanna play bf4 one day
subtle linden
i booted up BF4 last night - ran out of hopium and copium
crimson pawn
Year of service calling card are unbalanced, 2002 need you to kill people with grenade c4 and mines.... instead on others rocket count as gadget...
wispy haven
thing is i have no friends that play bf games and i always go solo
spiral folio
I figure if it's unbearable ive got bf1
arctic grove
still agree with your name
It is the ONE thing I want most from this game. I am willing to compromise on almost anything else I want from this game
spiral folio
Imagine i can find a build that isnt horrible
crimson pawn
After 2 days I am still at 8 😦
slender hare
It is the ONE thing I want most from this game. I am willing to compromise on al...
yeah it would be cool ngl
subtle linden
Neon - i understand that you like specialists but if 1 and v are all you played I take your opinion a little less serious. just being honest
spiral folio
But I'll 400% let my team know when I'm out of ammo
wispy haven
It is the ONE thing I want most from this game. I am willing to compromise on al...
hmm. i think they are doing that cause they look “generic” and think people would not choose them cause specialists look “cooler” and i think they don’t wanna spend their time working on that?
spiral folio
Might stick with lis since that'll give me 1 thing i can keep firing
crimson pawn
Neon - i understand that you like specialists but if 1 and v are all you played ...
I play since 1942 and honestly specialist don't bother me that much
arctic grove
hmm. i think they are doing that cause they look “generic” and think people woul...
It doesn’t make them money. Funny part is, I feel like they’d make more money if they let me choose to play as a specialist or generic soldier. It’s the best of both worlds for players
wispy haven
Neon - i understand that you like specialists but if 1 and v are all you played ...
Like that is absurd. You are like naaaaah you have to play aaaaallll bf games to be able to have your opinion and have your opinion taken seriously by me. Yeah.. no.
crimson pawn
I mean it was a nice change by the end especially since growing up people have less and less friend that can play with you in team so you are more time solo then in team
spiral folio
I dont hate specialists i just wish they werent soulbound to "classes"
arctic grove
Like that is absurd. You are like naaaaah you have to play aaaaallll bf games to...
I haven’t played anything before BF3
And even then I’m not like some OG
First battlefield was 4 and I got that in like 2015
wispy haven
Yeah his take is absurd to me sorry
I don’t have to play all bf games to have solid opinion. 3 is more than enough.
arctic grove
Got BF3 in 2019 for the campaign more than anything else
spiral folio
Its like some weird rpg rules
"You cant hold THAT longsword.. its a warrior longsword... you're a ranger... this is the RANGER longsword here"
wispy haven
exactly lmao
crimson pawn
I can see why he said so, since someone is new it could get the specialist as a good thing but isn't that much "battlefield stuff"
But again even as "og" I like them
arctic grove
Its like some weird rpg rules
"You cant hold THAT longsword.. its a warrior long...
Picking up a gun of a different class just changed your class to that class
arctic grove
Wut
spiral folio
Its not like an engineer grabs a bolt action rifle and just can't figure it out
arctic grove
exactly lmao
I think what he means is your take on it seems to be charged mainly by not playing with the class system as long. If this is your most played BF it’s probably influencing your decision on it as compared to a large portion of the BF community
spiral folio
Arbitrary classes. Man
crimson pawn
Anyway switching argument, Year of service calling card are unbalanced, 2002 need you to kill people with grenade c4 and mines.... instead on others rocket count as gadget...
They NEED to balance it
spiral folio
People wanted this is the funny part
"Hey theres... too much freedom i want you to give me rules"
crimson pawn
In this way 2002 is the most hard by far a lot.
wispy haven
also 1 thing if you peeps experienced - i hopped into game (bought the game) like 4 days ago on pc - ans when i first got in i was fascinated with everything - from guns, maps, and graphics.
3 days later i am sweaty lord that comes out with 40 kills and game has lost it’s beauty? like that happens with me with most of games.
arctic grove
Its not like an engineer grabs a bolt action rifle and just can't figure it out
Yes but you might as well question BFs entire identity if we’re gonna being logic into it
wispy haven
I think what he means is your take on it seems to be charged mainly by not playi...
600 hours on bf5
royal trail
rao is so underrated, let him disrupt a target and then bring it down with a rocket or two. easy win
spiral folio
BFs identity is stupid rules?
arctic grove
enough?!
It’s fine man. Wether you’ve played every BF before this or not it’s still alright to have that opinion
spiral folio
Weird cause I defined BF as "large scale battles sometimes with vehicles"
arctic grove
I’m just saying I think that’s where he’s coming from
wispy haven
makes sense
spiral folio
Not "you cant hold that gun its not your class"
arctic grove
Znath here’s something that I think has a 70%+ chance of happening with the next game
wispy haven
bf identity for me experiencing the war simulator that no other game delivers
arctic grove
They will use the class system and other legacy features as selling points again
spiral folio
I'm saying all this in a suuuuper sarcastic feminine voice btw
eager spire
BF is a large arcade shooter with vehicles.
wispy haven
abrupt chaos
eager spire
That is just what it is. nothing more, nothing less.
royal trail
being able to jump and shoot while keeping your aim is amazing me
arctic grove
“Hey guys, we know we fucked up two years ago… but we’ve listened to you with this one!”
crimson pawn
Honestly class system with weapon locked after 20 years bother me a lot, specialist and every class weapon choice it's so nice to me.
wispy haven
you can have 1 game with 3 kills and forty deaths cause of - war is unfair
you can have 1 game with 40 kills and 3 deaths cause of - war is unfair
that is bf for me.
eager spire
you can have 1 game with 3 kills and forty deaths cause of - war is unfair
Nah that just sounds like a skill issue to me
wispy haven
about war and abrupt chaos
crimson pawn
Nah that just sounds like a skill issue to me
lol but sometimes it can happen
eager spire
YOU can have one game where you go 3-40.
arctic grove
BF has a simple selling point but I still don’t think that invalidates the importance of the class system and restricted gadgets and guns as part of a system that’s worked in these games for the past 20 years
eager spire
Personally, it just doesn't happen to me.