battlefield-2042

[pine roost]

it's a shame you don't get points for resupplying and healing now though

[next onyx]

And then tell them to get the fuck out when I'm over an objective.

[pine roost]

in terms of leaderboard score

[slender isle]

Okay so I’ve been able to play a few full normal conquest matches and I’ll tell you what… non of the base maps are even that bad lmao. Maybe a little bit to run for but if you just use each sector as it’s own map it works really well

[wintry parrot]

Its part of why I like battlefield as a whole, I'm not particularly good at most FPS's, so being able to help out in ways other than getting kills is a really nice part of the experience for me

[pine roost]

i'd say i'm somewhat the same. The draw for me stems from the fact that my actions can actually affect a match fairly signficiantly. You could be the sole person keeping the frontline restocked, or the one to take out a heli, allowing you to make that final push

that alongside the mechanics and strategy that is deep enough to provide a fun learning experience and sense of mastery

[arctic grove]

season 3 bangin

[wintry parrot]

I remember feeling like an absolute king keeping pushes alive in breakthrough matches on BF1

[pine roost]

bfv medic felt great

smokes were invaulable, so one medic on say, iwo jima, is all you'd need to actually get something done

[wintry parrot]

BF5 is probably my favourite iteration of the medic class, and the class system as a whole to be honest

BF1 as well in that regard, since they're both similar

[pine roost]

smoke off a tank, it can't see. Smoke off an infantry camp, you can flank them. It's just fun to realise the effect you have on a match

i'd agree that v was the best medic experience

[wintry parrot]

2042's medic situation is super weird

I find myself rarely ever getting revived, even if there's a falck nearby and its safe

[arctic grove]

i like being able to shoot people better

[pine roost]

at the moment, yeah cause the assaults can carry medkits so the reliance on a proper support isn't really there

and the people not reviving could simply be because you are in a bad spot

there have been numerous times yesterday alone where I've had someone try to revive me but fail to clear the corner and fall right into a trap

[wintry parrot]

Oh no yeah that I get, but like, sometimes a nearby medic will just completely gloss over me even if its safe

[pine roost]

oh that's just the average battlefield player for you

[wintry parrot]

I get picked up by my squadmates more than I get picked up by falck

[pine roost]

finding a competitant medic in a tdm match and just bouncing off each other, reviving left right and centre, was great

rare though

[shell ermine]

Plus I've actually been seeing a fair number of PC players actually bunnyhop. Never saw that before crossplay honestly.

That needs handled too, no shooting while jumping and an ads delay when landing would be nice.

[pine roost]

don't touch the movement

it's actually in a decent place

[wintry parrot]

God I remember watching something like that happen on an iwo jima match on BF5 one time

[shell ermine]

Reduce the ammo to one shot before cooldown imo

[pine roost]

not quite 4 levels of movement, but being able to shoot in the air is one of the main reasons why I prefer it over 1 or v

[wintry parrot]

Just a gaggle of medics pushing up the side, reviving eachother when one got down

It was like watching a nature documentary, I needed david Attenborough narrating that shit

[next onyx]

Bunny hopping has always been on console.

[pine roost]

yeah it's not pc exclusive

[wary sleet]

Would you expect any damage increases or anything like that if that change was made-- to offset

[shell ermine]

Maybe a slight damage increase, but more along the lines of mobility improvements.

Or maybe just a longer reload time and a longer cool down between the two shots. It really feels like if you stick your neck out as a tank you get pelted with tv missiles

[low timber]

Hi Sam

[next onyx]

OH I just remembered something.

[low cypress]

Sam do you work on Specialists?

[low timber]

Oh no.

[next onyx]

He's on the gadget/operator branch if I'm correct.

I remembered the idea I had for Angel to keep him relevant without replacing Falck.

[low cypress]

it’s been a very long day but atleast I’ve been freed of my shackles!!

[pine roost]

Yeah I think it's gadgets, I recall a discussion about the smoke launcherback when that came out

[next onyx]

They might of gotten an idea on what to do but I was thinking if his ammo pouches/packs could refill 50 health.

[shell ermine]

Bring back attrition.

[low timber]

That’s not bad Way

[next onyx]

Falck can easily shoot out more needles and heal more teammates to full with her syrette.

[shell ermine]

Both players and vehicle

[next onyx]

But Angel can give lunch boxes.

[low cypress]

I like lunch boxes

[pine roost]

lunch boxes lol

[next onyx]

Fuck attrition. Its health aspect was the worst.

[shell ermine]

Loved the health system in BFV

[pine roost]

'here, have a sandwich'

[next onyx]

Only the ammo part of it was good.

[low timber]

Way remember my idea? About the BFH/BFV way of taking health/ammo from the teammate who’s too busy to throw the stuff down?

[pine roost]

delete that health system and make it never return

[shell ermine]

Bring back medic and ammo stations, bring back vehicle repair bays, significantly buff the armor on tanks and give them limited ammo

[next onyx]

I don't know why I think of lunch boxes which is funny HAHA. Just these little care packages full of food to make you healthy and give you your ammo back.

Yeah they need to bring it back Marse.

[pine roost]

yes that was such a godsend being able to do that

[next onyx]

I actually liked the ammo part because of how you could mitigate it. Note that post 5.2 was when it was in a really good spot.

[low timber]

Yeah, you can take health from Falck, ammo from Anghel and gadget from Irish by pressing interact on their character model

[limber meadow]

you guys would love bf4 movement haha

[shell ermine]

Why don't you all like the health system in BFV? It seemed perfect to me, limited regen and everyone spawns with one health pack. It made medics very important and the positioned health stations made up for when medics were unavailable.

[pine roost]

how much ammo does angel restore with just the throwable box?

[next onyx]

Limited health regen was dumb considering you had to rely on teammates with the awareness of a god damn Slug.

[low timber]

You mean pouch? All of it

[next onyx]

Uh the ammo box refills two mags. His pouch does all.

[pine roost]

even the secondary mags?

[next onyx]

I'm not sure.

Actually.

[shell ermine]

I don't know how it was on other platforms but I've never had issues with teamplay in BFV

[low timber]

Except on the crossbow you now get all bolts from the crate

[next onyx]

Oh that's good.

[shell ermine]

People almost always listened to commo-rose requests

[pine roost]

i've always wondered why the box didn't refill it to full

[next onyx]

I think I will do the crossbow when 3.2 comes out.

[shell ermine]

Plus you could take health off of medics who weren't paying attention

[next onyx]

Play as Lis for the super fast reload.

Med box medics only.

Otherwise pouches were superior.

It was an annoying system because it cucked people who wanted to play alone in any other class asides from medic.

I mained support and even though I dealt with it. It was straight bullshit.

There was little mitigation.

[shell ermine]

Its Battlefield, you aren't supposed to play alone

[low timber]

I kinda want a decoy back
Two in fact, a BF4 one and a BFV one

[next onyx]

Yeah and I can't rely on my team to do anything so I have to be the one that pushes alone.

[shell ermine]

Attrition in BFV clawed back a lot of the COD-style arcadeiness that has been seeping into the series since Bad Company

[next onyx]

Credits to those people who help me yes. But I shouldn't be punished for simply wanting to push with any class that isn't medic.

[pine roost]

you'd get punished for having the skill and confidence to go on flanks and actually make an impact

[visual gazelle]

I think the health attrition could have been better. But ultimately I liked the system.

[shell ermine]

Just don't get shot

[next onyx]

Codness.
You do realise that the sweats mained medic for the unlimited pouches yes?

[visual gazelle]

But this is 2042 chat so yeah.

[next onyx]

And the whole system itself was irrelevant to do because of that?

[eager spire]

Just don’t get shot
Incredible advice. Why didn’t I think of that.

[chilly jacinth]

install aimbot

to never miss too

[next onyx]

Who cares if medics don't have the range. They can throw smoke everywhere and abuse gaps in the enemy fire because of it.

[shell ermine]

I mained SAR Assault in BFV and had zero issues pushing or surviving.

[low timber]

Jungle Carbine intensifies

[next onyx]

I main support and I didn't have much of an issue surviving either.

Though there were many times I was cucked because the game simply says fuck you.

Jungle carbine during 5.2 was stupid.

Because no one could actually put in any meaningful shots.

Health attrition to 2042 will ruin it. And I'd rather not see it again.

[pine roost]

I think most of my time was spent on medic, for the smokes and revive. Then it was recon cause sniping was just so dang fun

[next onyx]

Don't know why but SMG's were not my jam in that game.

Grease gun was my most played.

[pine roost]

zk was the goat for lightened stock. Who would have thought that a trait that grants faster strafe speed makes something practically meta

[visual gazelle]

Not sure if my thoughts on the topic are similar to yours, but I was brainstorming changing armor to be anti-explosive only. That would keep armor relevant and carve a niche for the gadget, give another layer to infantry vs. vehicle balance, and keep Angel important in one way or another.

[pine roost]

glad that's not happened since

[next onyx]

I did think of that!

[pearl ridge]

Bots fucking suck but they keep objectives pressured

[next onyx]

Buff armour to 50 but have it only take explosive damage.

A flak jacket.

If someone survives my grenade launcher that is fair!

[visual gazelle]

Exactly. Flak jacket.

[next onyx]

0 complaints.

[pine roost]

good idea

[visual gazelle]

With how much more splash damage we have in this game, I think it'd be a nice balance.

[next onyx]

"Ah shit he lived my GL and won that fight because of it but at least my bullets actually do meaningful damage"

But for some reason.

I love the lunch box idea more. As much as I love the armour idea.

[visual gazelle]

A "flak jacket aura" could be a thing when throwing down Angel's supply crate. Just throwing it out there.

[next onyx]

A passive buff to ammo crates where collecting from it would provide armour.

But then that'd be everywhere.

[visual gazelle]

What's your lunch box idea?

[next onyx]

Give ammo and 50 health through his pouches.

[pine roost]

irish says hello

[visual gazelle]

Ah, yeah that seems fair.

[next onyx]

This keeps Falck relevant.

But that idea with armour is a good idea too.

[pine roost]

50 health flat out or simply bring it up to 50?

[next onyx]

Bringing it up to 50. Increased regen.

[visual gazelle]

And with Irish becoming a Support soon, that's also in line with his abilities.

[next onyx]

Not as fast as falck.

But as fast as Zain's.

But Zain's regen feels like it's the natural regen, It's just that it cuts the healing delay.

[pearl ridge]

The fact that the armour gadget is literally just for yourself is weird

[visual gazelle]

THIS SO MUCH

I was so disappointed when the med pen and armor gadgets did not allow you to give them to other players.

[pearl ridge]

I feel like it’s a holdover from the probable original BR idea, like how it was in Firestorm.

[visual gazelle]

Like, I was expecting the med pen to allow the player, regardless of "class", to revive friendlies up with 25 to 50 health.

[pearl ridge]

I would’ve liked revives to be syringe based. Defibs just don’t have that feel.

[visual gazelle]

It's a very Call of Duty thing as well.

[visual gazelle]

Same here. Makes more sense "realistically" to revive someone who got shot with adrenaline syringe, not a defib.

[spiral folio]

Well its a fuuUUuuture defib

[arctic grove]

It Does?

My friend in the medical field would like to have a in-depth discussion with you

[pearl ridge]

Adrenaline is a hell of a lot more likely to be useful on a battlefield than trying to fix a goddamn heart attack

[visual gazelle]

I dunno. Would you revive someone who's on the ground groaning in pain with a defib?

[spiral folio]

Well that and a defib won't work through a half inch of kevlar

[arctic grove]

they both aren't close at all 🗿

once you get shot there isn't a force in nature that can get you up in 2 seconds of hand rubbing

[next onyx]

The defibs restart the heart.

[spiral folio]

When you get shot down in the game you just get knocked out because you have soooo much armor you dont actually die

So the defib just wakes you up

[arctic grove]

Plot Armor

[pearl ridge]

The medpen contains anticoagulants, painkillers, and nanomachines(?). I’d say that’s revive worthy

[spiral folio]

Yea see

[next onyx]

NANOMACHINES, SON.

[spiral folio]

The defib also shocks awake the nanobot healing

[next onyx]

I had to.

[visual gazelle]

Thank you for your service.

[next onyx]

Eheh.

[arctic grove]

the explanation is NANOTECH

[spiral folio]

But since its bf they wont call them just nanobots

[pearl ridge]

But anyway it doesn’t seem to have much use given that it takes up the same slot as a med crate…

[next onyx]

Personal use.

[arctic grove]

anything that doesn't make sense but needs explaining "NANOTECH"

[visual gazelle]

And I dunno, I feel it's more believable that everyone has a syringe, not bulky defibs.

[next onyx]

You can heal after you get shot if you had already consumed one.

[spiral folio]

The defibs are inflatable obviously

[next onyx]

Though when they're being ported to be an assault only gadget. Med pens will work in the same vain.

[spiral folio]

Unpack them like origami

[visual gazelle]

Ideally I'd love it you can just cosmetically change the defib to a syringe. It's already in the game for 1942 medics.

[next onyx]

Oh yeah in bf3 it's like this little epi pen.

Through squad revive.

[pine roost]

they'll probably have a charge up

is that how 3 worked?

[next onyx]

Bf3 didn't have a charge.

Well.

It didn't need a charge.

If you charged it up it could kill.

[pine roost]

ah ok

[next onyx]

In bf4, H. You needed to charge it if you wish to restore more health.

[pine roost]

was worried that we'd have a bunch of 20hp revives like 4 does to this day

[visual gazelle]

My question with that is will there be a usage limit like how it is now? Or will it be unlimited with a cooldown? I feel like med pens for Assault would make Support medics irrelevant to them, but we'll see when classes become live.

[next onyx]

Yeah I have zero idea.

[spiral folio]

Players with the railgun should be able to also revive faster by stringing cables from the railguns power pack

[next onyx]

I assume it'll be one med pen for heal that can only be refilled through med crates.

[pine roost]

the design behind the assault is that they'd go out and push, use up their pens and plates then return for supplies. But I honestly feel like most people would die before ever using it all up

unless they make it so you have one pen and one or two plates i guess

[arctic grove]

Minecraft crashes on my pc but not 2042 😎 👊

[spiral folio]

Yea the meatshields and spearholders

[arctic grove]

Do you are have stupid

It's not a fucking Double A battery

[spiral folio]

Itll revive em even better

-shocks player awake-
-player levitates with glowing eyes-
-ironman beams from hands-

[arctic grove]

Herobrine : D

[spiral folio]

But it only lasts like 40s and then you disintegrate

Walk through a concrete wall leaving a molten hot outline

[arctic grove]

alright calm down chief before netflix starts taking notes

[spiral folio]

Im mostly just ripping off dr manhattan

[arctic grove]

Netflix does ripping off too

[hallow nest]

you guys know if they are still having the CPU problem of slamming it to 100%

i got a i9-9900k and a 2070 and the game is basically unplayable and causes me to bluescreen

[wide cliff]

I've checked. The main issue for me is that if I were to have 12 threads, Battlefield 2042 would only use 3 threads.

Resulting unstable performance.

[hallow nest]

basically the opposite here it slams all my cores to 100% and the game gets around 20fps

[wide cliff]

Dang.

Anyone knows how to prioritize Railgun Tank?

I mainly use it to take down enemies' vehicles. However, I find it hard to attack players.

[solid imp]

Attacking vehicles is what it's best at

[wide cliff]

Alright.

[shell ermine]

Its primarily anti-air

[visual gazelle]

Is the railgun tank hitscan as well?

[wide cliff]

I find it easy to take down enemies' tanks, I would say it's pretty much an anti vehicle Tank.

2 T28 versus 1 Railgun Tank, Railgun Tank wins.

[spiral folio]

I havent messed with it. Figure itd come down to if the rail got a first hit in and then moved to mobility

Depends how much hp a full hit does

And how fast it can switch to mobile mode

[next onyx]

If you have experience with the churchill crocodile from bf5 it's pretty much that.

[spiral folio]

Honestly like if this tank was offered today. The army would probably reject it if it couldnt store a charge without impacting mobility

Because typically a tank battle is decided in the first shot

It'd be all over the place in the navy though

[wise otter]

anyone down for Rush ?

[spiral folio]

You could probably scale down the gun a bit though

Also its weird the rails are top/bottom cause thatd force the sabot to discard upwardly

Not that they render that. Just saiyan tho

[sturdy ether]

Hi, I may buy BF2042. But is the game dead? and is there small gamemodes where it mostly about gunfights? team deathmatch for example? also is the game full of sweats?

[spiral folio]

There's a few modes, i prefer breakthrough where the offense team pushes and takes sectors by taking the flags within each

[mental delta]

Yeah there's TDM but depending on where you're living, servers can be empty

[spiral folio]

Tdm is seriously dated though

Like most servers will be conquest or breakthrough

[sturdy ether]

it seems like bf5 have more players than bf2042

[mental delta]

Major problem with TDM or Domination is that they aren't AOW modes so they are barely played

[mental delta]

It does

[icy shale]

Hey everyone, I was wondering why the hazard zone servers are so dead? I want to know why no one plays it anymore, and I couldn't find much on Google, and I wanted to know from the players.

[sturdy ether]

I see, tbh I think it doesn't worth right now even thought it is almost 66% discount

[spiral folio]

Eh its probably worth that

I mean that takes it to what 20?

[mental delta]

Because of BF2042 whole failure, people ceased to play it only a few weeks after release and then Dice announced they would stop updating Hazard Zone and nobody wants to play a gamemode which will not be updated anymore

[ancient peak]

It’s worth more than that tbh for the content you get

[spiral folio]

You can barely go out to eat for close to that now

[sturdy ether]

Yup

Is the gameplay fun? It doesn't look like judging by the videos

[spiral folio]

Ive lost 20 bucks on way worse games and didnt regret it

DayZ

[ancient peak]

Judging by the videos

What videos would that even be

[mental delta]

Yeah BF2042 still isn't worth it for most people right now, I would just say let's see what they planned for year 2 but if that's only 1 map each season again I could only advise people to give up on this game

[icy shale]

The gameplay is very fun

[spiral folio]

Videos and streamers will typically only show like thr craaaziest moments

Theyre not gonna show like snipers or even mid range guys

Its gonna be kickflip1080s skateboarders and shotguns at half a meter range and knife takedowns

[icy shale]

It’s like a fast paced, strategic, fps game.

[spiral folio]

Bf games typicslly have a wide variety of gameplay styles

[sturdy ether]

I played BF4 , 1 and 5

[solid imp]

I'm at something like $.11/hr of enjoyment on 2042, already don't regret it lol

[icy shale]

You know how long it takes to make a map right?

[icy shale]

Yeah, it’s about that.

[spiral folio]

Yea i dont have a ton of hours into 2042 yet but like even if the game 100% ended tomorrow id say i got my moneys worth

Id say DayZ is the one game i kinda regret cause it never fully delivered what it was promising not even close

Even then. It was barely 20 bucks and i got some memorable moments

[sturdy ether]

btw is the game full of sweaty players

[solid imp]

sometimes

[mental delta]

We would have probably gotten more if game hadn't been a failure and if they hadn't reduced effectives, as we get 1 map and 2 reworks each season for year 1 I am totally expecting 1 map and 1 or 2 Portal maps each season for year 2

[spiral folio]

The lack of crossteam chat is one thing I'm not fond of

Ea just diesnt want to deal with it

But i mean you cant even go "nice shot"

[icy shale]

Since we’re on the topic of wasting money on games, don’t buy rust console. It sucks. I wasted $60, and I only ever played the game 1 time.

[spiral folio]

Yea ive heard less thsn desirable stories about rust

Cause like your stuff is persistent so.... some college kid or unemployed f-er shoes up at 5am and wrecks the place with rocket launchers

[icy shale]

I’ve played it on pc and it’s a lot more fun

Frfr

[spiral folio]

DayZ stand alone was trying to implement all the features the mod had for arma 2 and it just like...... "eh i give up" for like a year

[wintry parrot]

The games definitely better than it was before now, season three is a pretty good time to start playing imo

Games by no means dead currently, and ideally the numbers will keep going up with updates and improvements

Still, I'd try to get it cheap if you can

[lunar finch]

Because im cool :)

[visual gazelle]

Friendly reminder that most live service games nowdays do one map per season, give or take.

[solid imp]

You know people wouldn't limit themselves to that though 😄 we are talking about The Internet.

[mental delta]

That's why they should consider reintroducing DLC system, and COD does more btw it's more like 3 maps each season (and yeah I know you'll say they are smaller maps but whatever)

[spiral folio]

Yea it s a few bad eggs ruining things fir everyone. Ive seen other games do it

[visual gazelle]

Valid. Personally I'd welcome it as long as only maps are free; everything else locked behind the DLC paywall. Because when you paywall maps, the playerbase gets split and eventually you won't get to play the DLC maps.

[spiral folio]

Basically restricting chat saves EA money by not having as many reports to deal with

[mental delta]

I know it's sad it splits up the playerbase but I would be ok with paying a little more to play more content on a game I love than seeing it having a lot of potential and not getting all the content it deserves

[wintry parrot]

What you don't like getting called slurs by a third grader?

[fiery dawn]

Why have reports to deal with when you can just add a mute button and the option to disable the chat boxes in the settings for people who don’t want it?

[spiral folio]

The second you open it up. One kid will like... threaten to irl murder somebody. Then ea will go "see? Told ya"

[fiery dawn]

who tf cares lol

[spiral folio]

That's how people ruin things

[fiery dawn]

just give a mute button, an optional chat filter, and an optional chat disable

and let people say whatever the hell they want

[spiral folio]

Well like some things they cant legally ignore if it comes to their attention

[fiery dawn]

yes they can

[spiral folio]

Oh nah not these days

Like real threats and such fall under criminally actionable

So even if its just some teenage brat speaking out their ass

[fiery dawn]

nah that’s bullshit

[spiral folio]

They have to treat it like its possible at all

[fiery dawn]

video game companies haven’t had to worry about that for years

why now

because our society is soft

[spiral folio]

Because blabla current events etc

[fiery dawn]

yeah it’s lame

if seeing angry people typing empty threats in a video game chat box bothers you then you can just mute or disable the chat problem solved

[spiral folio]

Yea like 99% of threats are gonna be some child speaking out their ass

[fiery dawn]

there’s no need to ban people or remove chat for everyone because of that stuff we haven’t done that for ages and now all of a sudden we’re doing it

[spiral folio]

I did know a guy who had some stalker that somehow figured out his address and it turned into a thing though

I once had a kid threaten to come to my house like... "well that'd be a bad idea if you even knew where"

My favorite was like a totally unrealistic threat where this kid was like

"We noticed you purchased call of duty and have your credit card number." And made some threats to use it. .

Last CoD game i played was 2.

So out of spite I reported him. Kid was banned in 30min

[icy shale]

I hate how they removed the EBAA Wildcat, EBLC-RAM, and the attack vehicles from conquest 64 and breakthrough 64

[icy shale]

Lol

[tardy tree]

woah deja vu

somehow i pictured this exact conversation happening

thats wild

[spiral folio]

Ive had a kid even GIVE ME HIS ADDRESS and challenge me to a irl fight once

[tardy tree]

bro had a death wish

[icy shale]

Once I had a middle-aged dude threaten to: “come to my house and beat me up.” I reported him and he was banned in 2 hrs. At the time, my uncle, who is a marine, was at my house. So I basically had a bodyguard if he did find out my adress

[spiral folio]

Yea kids are idiots it's amazing

[icy shale]

Lol

[icy shale]

So true

[spiral folio]

And then people are surprised when kids disappear. Well.. theyre doin this

[icy shale]

Lol

[spiral folio]

I'm "generally nice" so i just lectured the kid on how dangerous that is. But iunno what if i wasn't

[civic python]

I'm stuck on the black loading screen with a blue cross in the middle, after the space loading screen.

I have an origin account, even logged in to it before starting the game.

I have the latest drive installed.

My PC is above minimum requirements.

I tried verifying the game files and it didn't work.

What should I do?

[solid imp]

Everyone signs the EULA, shame no one reads it before playing a game and then complains about moderation of chat 😉

[icy shale]

Frfr

[solid imp]

next next next install next finish close

[spiral folio]

You might alt-tab around and see if there's a window asking for permissions

[civic python]

Nope there isn't one

[spiral folio]

I've had those lock up games before

Its easier tondo with 2 monitors

[civic python]

I simply used alt+enter so it's in windowed mode, didn't see any pop-ups

[spiral folio]

Ie mouse over the BF icon on the bottom bar and sometimes those dont show up

Have you run the game before?

[civic python]

Yes I have, both in beta and in season 2 the game ran just fine

[spiral folio]

Did you by chance uninstall between then?

Im wondering if like some permissions didnt transfer

[civic python]

Yes I have, for both beta and season 2

[spiral folio]

Cause the space loading screen is literally you logging in

[civic python]

I really dk, tried everything I know

[slate meadow]

Onion ranger the game has some weird issues right now I'd suggest looking in the ea help forum to see if there is any solutions if not create a new thread

[civic python]

I gone pass the space loading screen, see the "new to battlefield beginner's video" prompt, after closing it, im stuck with a black loading screen

[spiral folio]

Yea if there is some permissions issue they'll know how to find it better than me

[slate meadow]

I've had the game randomly shutting with no error box popping up and black screens after the end of round screen

[civic python]

Guess this is the only thing left to do now, thank you two for trying to help 🙂

[spiral folio]

Yea maybe a popup did happen and accidentally did a bad keypress

Or who knows

Thats just what it sounds like

[glossy storm]

When 2042 runs well enough, it's enjoyable.

[tired island]

Is the game good yet?

[civic python]

oh my god I got the game to work

[arctic grove]

Nah, i honestly been riding it since pre ordering to play beta, but the game is dead quiet, everyones rambo, i bought the ultimate edition and i feel i am not getting my moneys worth with these battle passes, and specialists that they have been adding. Games just going downhill from whatever jump they recieved after that failed launch.

[civic python]

so I went to EA help forum and blindly following their fixes since I have no idea what caused mine, one post said he had his controller connected and removing it get the game to run.

I didn't use controller, so i disconnected my mouse and earphone

now I'm in the game

smh

[winged pasture]

I feel like even with all these updates, it’s still not as advanced as battlefield v, unfortunate that that game got cut off

[arctic grove]

Yes its getting better

its amusing to play now

[outer cave]

why can't i play on battlefield 2042 ps5 server with ps4 version but with a ps5

[arctic grove]

Honestly if u overthink games and look for every tiny detail to make it good then ur just childish

The maps are good the gunplays good and thats what matters tbh

few fps drops here and there along w some bugs but not many

[glossy storm]

Who's composing the new themes? Still Hildur and Sam?

[honest spire]

so i just bought 2042 for $20 (figured i give it a try)...do i HAVE to buy battle passes to play as certain specialists?

[arctic grove]

no

[glossy storm]

You can earn them by playing, right?

[arctic grove]

yeah pretty sure

[honest spire]

says Zain is locked...Battle Pass Tier 4 Required

[arctic grove]

Do you need to own the battlepass to participate in it

[arctic grove]

You dont have an abundance of rpgs and snipers during your matches? I get flooded all the time and it annoying since there is no bullet drop.

I dont remember buyying but ive got most of kt

[arctic grove]

I play sniper but its rly easy to counter

[radiant prism]

He’s on the free battlepass

[glossy storm]

Gonna play 2042 with a VPN. Hope this works and I find an actual server for AOW to play in.

[arctic grove]

Most of my kills are close range stuff

[honest spire]

ty

[radiant prism]

All the new specialists, guns, vehicles, etc are available for free

[arctic grove]

Since the lens glare is a big giveaway

[radiant prism]

The paid battlepass is all cosmetics

[arctic grove]

Ive never had issues with rpgs though

[spiral folio]

The railgun? It has "some" but basically no real bullet drop

Every other sniper has a lot

[arctic grove]

Railgun is really OP

[spiral folio]

The NTW has a ton

[arctic grove]

Id say it needs nerfing

The snipers dont have a drop whatsoever.

not in terms of dmg

[spiral folio]

In bf2042?

[arctic grove]

They do

[spiral folio]

Because this is the bf2042 room

[radiant prism]

The railgun is a good sniper…but that’s about it

[arctic grove]

Its just only noticeable at very long ranges

[spiral folio]

And in bf2042 snipers have a lot of drop

[arctic grove]

Compared to the drop in bf4 atleast

[spiral folio]

More than bf1

[chilly jacinth]

dxr has basically none

[spiral folio]

At what range

[chilly jacinth]

and sws has none that is impactful

[arctic grove]

Sws is the first one right

Only time snipers feel the drop in range is conquest, every other mode there is no penatly

[civic python]

do i "lose money" if i get the ultimate pack now? since it's already season 3

[arctic grove]

Since the objectives are not far enough for the range to start affecting snipers. Same with rpgs or anti air.

[radiant prism]

Here’s my previous textwall about why the Railgun really isn’t that great

[arctic grove]

If ur good with the railway its simply just very OP

as a sniper like you said

[spiral folio]

My bet is theyll enhance the trail on the railgun

Its the easiest/laziest thing that will change how effective it is

[radiant prism]

But it’s really not that OP

It only one shots to the head

The only thing it really has going for it is high velocity and low drop

And maybe ammo capacity as a sniper

Which goes out the window the moment you switch to full auto or burst

[spiral folio]

Yea thats why i dont see stat changes

[glossy storm]

I could join, but with a nearly 200 ping, holy fucking god.

[spiral folio]

A stupid trail would make it less viable to spam shots

[radiant prism]

It needs more audio prompt

[spiral folio]

And takes less effort

[radiant prism]

More snap as it goes by

It already has a unique trail effect

That’s decently noticeable

[glossy storm]

There's this awful slow motion effect again. I can't even shoot. I'm dead before I know it.

[spiral folio]

Yea but make it longer/brighter

[radiant prism]

Maybe

[arctic grove]

Or just give the railway a glosing effect at distance tbh

Or is that what u mean

[radiant prism]

There’s already sound issues in general with the new weapons so I’d say an increase in Audibility is likely

Once fixes come around

[past flare]

the IRecklessv server is good for AOW

[arctic grove]

You think 2042 ever gonna get a 100% cqc map?

Like locker on bf4

[radiant prism]

Nah

[spiral folio]

They already have that container ship map with the massive CF in the middle

[radiant prism]

We’ve already got stranded yeah

[arctic grove]

Yea but its got loads outside hasnt it

[radiant prism]

I’m ready for more large scale maps

[radiant prism]

Not a ton tbh

[spiral folio]

So all the spray and prayers and shotgun campers can go pile bodies in there

[radiant prism]

Especially not on breakthrough

[arctic grove]

I mean proper cqc like operation locker

That shit the best map on bf4 lol

Well that and shanghai

[radiant prism]

Shanghai is mid

[spiral folio]

Oof if thats the best glad i didnt play it

[radiant prism]

And locker is only good if you like meat grinders

[arctic grove]

Shanghai is good till the tower collapses

[spiral folio]

Fort vaux

[radiant prism]

Which happens instantly

[arctic grove]

Locker on a 5000 ticket clan server is wild

[radiant prism]

Because everyone is like ooh haha destroy da tower :)

[arctic grove]

Like 2 hour stalemates

U can vet like 200 medic ribbons on it

[radiant prism]

We need more large scale maps now

Exposure, Stranded, and now Spearhead are all pretty infantry focused maps

I’m ready for more large scale

That’s why I’m looking forward to the breakaway rework so much, that map was really underwhelming IMO

[limpid pond]

Anyone know a spider expert

[spiral folio]

Yea hours of spy vs spy style in your face mayhem of
-shotguns somebody at 1m'
-Around the corner gets smgd down
-the smg guy tbags and sits on a grenade
-grenade thrower advances and gets hit by another shotgun
All thst happens in 2sec

I avoided going into ft vaux

Ohh
And also MORONS FLOODING THE HALLS WITH SMOKE so we can never advance

[radiant prism]

IMO meat grinder maps overstay their welcome quickly

[spiral folio]

Yes

[glossy storm]

I just want them to make a proper urban map.

[limpid pond]

I tried searching Google EFT and right but found nothing about this spider man

[spiral folio]

On the bf1 server i play they will play vaux once but skip the 2nd run

Where other maps not the worst thing

[radiant prism]

Agreed

Urban map would be quite fun

[spiral folio]

Urban sure but like not a CF tunnel hell

[radiant prism]

Yeah

Urban like Arica Harbor

But more so

[spiral folio]

Karkand

[honest spire]

does anyone else mouse just move around on its own in this game?

[spiral folio]

Probably the okayest urban map

[spiral folio]

Turn the mouse over, remove the hair

[honest spire]

haha...it feels like the mouse lags or something...like i look to the left and it keeps moving that way

[spiral folio]

Maybe lag ive had insane mouse movement cause like a hair got stuck in the sensor area

But yea if youre lagging sometime or computer is bogged. Youll move your mouse... it does nothing. Then a second after the mouse derps around and finally does what you told it

[topaz field]

Hmmm I'm excited for 3.2. I really wish they add four more portal maps more cqc

[next onyx]

We need more bf3 and bad co 2 maps.

[topaz field]

I played adrenaline tdm on spearhead Friday night it felt like metro

[arctic grove]

sounds like input delay on ur half

[topaz field]

Just pure freaking fun

Yeah those would be great @next onyx

Spearhead def gives me a bf4 vibes

[next onyx]

Oasis from bad co 2 would be big.

[glossy storm]

Damn it, I fucking quit.

[next onyx]

If we got at least 2 2042 maps and 2 portal maps that'd be sweet.

[glossy storm]

VPN allowed me to join a map, but with a lot of caveats.

[next onyx]

Oh damn. :|

[topaz field]

Where do you live?

[glossy storm]

Asia.

[topaz field]

Ouch man 😡

[glossy storm]

Really sad, 'cause I enjoy it when it actually works.

[topaz field]

I think that's what stopping alot of folks not able to play server connection

[honest spire]

are players rematched every round in this game?

[topaz field]

Which VPN you use ?

[glossy storm]

Proton.

[topaz field]

Ahh never heard of it

[glossy storm]

IK, it's a bad choice.

It's free.

[topaz field]

I know someone mentioned a VPN in here the other day that's really good but a bit pricey

[glossy storm]

And I really don't wanna pay extra for a VPN.

[topaz field]

It's good for gaming

[spiral folio]

Why?

[arctic grove]

Whos idea was pc crossplay

[spiral folio]

Joe's. Theyve got a lot of influence

So just blame Joe

[arctic grove]

Games dead without crossplay

And impossible with

[spiral folio]

Slightly better than bots though

[wintry parrot]

Impossible?

How so

[arctic grove]

Are you aware of the advantages MKB has to controller

[wintry parrot]

Yes, but I wouldn't ever say it makes it impossible to play

[arctic grove]

It does if you get a squad of PC snipers

[wintry parrot]

I play console, and I've never had much trouble personally with crossplay MNK players

Though tbh I've never had much trouble with snipers anyways, at least not frequently

[arctic grove]

I have past 2 matches

[uncut bay]

like the entire gaming community

why has everyone suddenly forgotten that for like the past decade crossplay has been the most asked for feature in games

[arctic grove]

probably because of how badly its been executed

[wintry parrot]

I mean, how can they execute it any better

[arctic grove]

Great idea to put controller vs MKB on large maps that can be sniper dominated

[uncut bay]

all three platforms play together, that's what people wanted and that's what they did lol

[arctic grove]

Unpopular opinion but aim assist similar to MW2

[spiral folio]

Console players get their aimbot though so it evens out some

[zealous needle]

you can turn it off

[arctic grove]

Where controller players have a remote chance

[arctic grove]

and play against bots

[wintry parrot]

Snipers have always been a problem in shooters since the dawn of FPS

[uncut bay]

if you think controller players are bots then that's kinda on you lmao

[arctic grove]

Have you seen 2042s aim assist 🤣🤣

[arctic grove]

No cant get a good server

[spiral folio]

Even a little evil is still evil

[arctic grove]

Quite literally playing against AI if I dont use crossplay

[uncut bay]

activision data showed controller players are on average better than kbm players anyway, only in the top % is kbm better

just a skill issue most of the time

[arctic grove]

Defo not a skill issue

Thats just bs stats lmao

[wintry parrot]

Like, I get that MNK has advantages over controller, but snipers are pretty easy to avoid most of the time, MNK doesn't really make a difference if you just avoid the most obvious spots to get sniped from

[uncut bay]

sure so they lied about their statistic and risked angering their community for nothing

literal skill issue

[wintry parrot]

The solar flare scope glint for one

[spiral folio]

If controller players were better they wouldnt need an aimbot

[arctic grove]

Its just obvious

[arctic grove]

railway rifle

[spiral folio]

You dont put training wheels on a bike because theyre just tooooo gooood

[uncut bay]

it's just anecdotal evidence

[arctic grove]

Or the rosh or whatever its called

[spiral folio]

Roshashana

Rorshark

[arctic grove]

In terms of KD or just plain skill

[wintry parrot]

The railgun is a problem across MNK and controller

[honest spire]

not sure why..it just bugs the crap out of me seeing the same characters fight along and against either

[wintry parrot]

Its not mutually exclusive to one or the other

[arctic grove]

Yes its just way easier 2 hit shots on mkb lol

[spiral folio]

Yea the rails a weird one.
Its basically a trigger delayed semi auto

[wintry parrot]

That goes for basically every gun

[uncut bay]

both i guess, must not be very obvious if there are controller players dominating pc players and saying it's fine

[spiral folio]

I'd rather have a semi auto 50cal with less ammo than the railgun

[wintry parrot]

Shocker, mouse and keyboard is easier to aim with

[fiery dawn]

It’s not “moderation of chat” rather it’s a complete non-existence of chat instead lol. And I can understand that the chat won’t be there going in and still complain about it missing since it’s been in every other Battlefield and FPS game I’ve ever played

[arctic grove]

im waiting for the day I see a controller player dominate agaisnt pc

Unless its on MW2 or something with insane levels of aimassist/aimbot

[uncut bay]

you probably won't see it because you're too busy complaining on discord, or looking at your kd

if you won't take infinity ward's data then go around asking controller players

[spiral folio]

Nah they'll end up overshooting and go from controller being less realistic aim.. then theyll overshoot to VR controllers being TOO realistic and the difficulty curve will be too great so people will go back to mouse which is easier

[arctic grove]

Both teams top fraggers on my server r pc

[uncut bay]

like i said

[spiral folio]

They "could" be using a controller

[arctic grove]

could dont see why they would tbh

[uncut bay]

if you wanna tally the top fraggers in all your games across multiple regions in a given time period to get proper data then be my guest

[arctic grove]

No Im not that sad

[spiral folio]

I had a great one yeaterday. I went from wasting time with the ntw to going back to the 2nd sniper and ended up 25-0 just chucking shots into that stupid server room on exposure

[uncut bay]

sad enough to be here instead of getting better at the game

[arctic grove]

Ever heard of doing 2 things at once 🤯

[uncut bay]

must be why you're getting stomped by the enemy team lmao

[spiral folio]

Work would get mad if i played games

[arctic grove]

Yes it is tbh

[willow sky]

the best feeling is getting number 1 squad at the end of the round

[fiery dawn]

It’s pretty meh actually seeing as they don’t feature top squad anymore

[spiral folio]

It still gets me they highlight usually the worst thing you do

[willow sky]

true...true

still shows off how cool ur squad is tho

[fiery dawn]

And you can do as much as half your team put together and still not get featured cause some bozo blew up 4 vehicles yippee

[spiral folio]

Like if you got 40 kills and killed 1 jeep or knifed one guy

Itll highlight the 1

[fiery dawn]

no one else can see that you’re top squad there’s 0 recognition

[tall valley]

Is there a XP cap 1 day in this game? Because after 10 hours farming xp, I cannot get any xp anymore

[willow sky]

pls let me feel good

[sly pagoda]

Bf1 had the best end of the round highlight by far, loved seeing those corny ass avatars

[willow sky]

ive done the work

it shows my effort

[fiery dawn]

to you and your squad mates

i’m just saying it’d be nice to get some recognition that your squad did the most work

it gives something to strive towards during the match

[willow sky]

yeah i agree

[sour meadow]

is the map ui change already in the game or is that coming later?

i honestly can't tell

[spiral folio]

Wasnt there no score board too

Im not a big fan of how this one scores either

[daring steppe]

anyone getting the unable to load persistence data error at all today besides me? never mind the game is letting me play now

[royal trail]

my computer can run every map at 4K ultra 60fps+ everywhere but inside the stadium of hourglass where it dips down to like 50 sometimes

why is that map so demanding?

😦

[dapper river]

I can still brag about being in the top 3~ on the team since everyone can see the scores now

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I’m thankful they actually added a real scoreboard eventually

[next onyx]

[fiery dawn]

That first iteration was doggy doodoo

[next onyx]

Yeah the game was due to become something else.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

[dapper river]

Now we've had a proper scoreboard in the game for longer than we've had that shitty early version

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[spiral folio]

Usually bf games shower useful idiots with points

[fiery dawn]

[spiral folio]

Ie points for taking flags over holding them.

Kills are worth waaay more than taking out the 5 spawners behind the wall flooding em in

Cause you gotta encourage people to rush into a killzone

[dapper river]

Kills are the most important because by killing the enemy you are reducing the time they can spend playing their objective. This is fact, and it is correct to only go for kills 😎

[spiral folio]

Yesterday speakin of spawners . I took out 4 spawn beacons in 2 shots cause they just frigin piled em together

[foggy halo]

Generally yes

But doesn't help when they have 1000 teammates near them when they can just spawn on them

[spiral folio]

Burning tickets straight arm punching through the wall will earn you more score than opening the unlocked door next to it

[foggy halo]

Like when moving from one point to another point

[royal trail]

killing as you defend or take an objective is where its at

[next onyx]

I play for high kills so I just gravitate towards the objective.

[spiral folio]

My favorite example is being on a team in bf1. Some kid had 10 flags taken.

We never advanced through that sector with 2 flags

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/backslash-massivecraft-gif-24302217

[spiral folio]

Ironman grabs a guy through a wall

-looks at hand-
-just part of the guy-
Oops

-flies away-

[daring steppe]

people who play medics and don't revive people need some kind of penalty. lost count of how many medics refuse to move even 3m in a safe spot to revive.

[dapper river]

Crawford players who don't revive are just practicing for the mid-season update

[daring steppe]

im talking the medic medic

[lilac dust]

If the penalty was being banned from the game then I think there would be like 90 people maximum worldwide playing the game. (Let's just say pretend that only 90 people in the world are true medics)

[dapper river]

ah just like Overwatch 1 I see

[lilac dust]

[daring steppe]

and whats with the servers today cant get a full game without getting the persistence error

[low remnant]

hey guys anybody here had problems with downloading the game on pc? im stuck and preparing 0% and everytime i get message that there is problem with your download.. :/

[daring steppe]

may be related to the issues im having in game

[spiral folio]

If you think medics dont rev now. Wait til nobody plays medic because they cant get ammo

[dapper river]

Angel is support, he gives ammo, and he will be able to equip a medical crate after the class update ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lilac dust]

Angel will become meta again

[daring steppe]

99.9% of medics i see are just self meding junkies

[lilac dust]

Slash Mackay too

Mackay always meta

[dapper river]

Actually I think support will also get ammo box too, so Falk will also be able to give ammo

[lilac dust]

Sheeeesh okay then

[spiral folio]

Yea people will just load up on support cause the maps are too vast to rely on allies for ammo

[daring steppe]

people need to learn to not go full rambo all the time

[lilac dust]

Shroud needs told that

[dapper river]

Of all the things that were rightfully cut from BFV, they should've kept the "yoink ammo and meds from support players" feature

[spiral folio]

Bf1 youd have to put on your hiking boots and go find an ally and sit in front of em til they gave ammo or you died either way ammo acquired

[lilac dust]

I honestly thought someone said that was gonna be in 2042 at launch.... Suffice to say my disappointment was immeasurable

[dapper river]

that guy who uninstalled the game after getting wrecked? keke

[spiral folio]

Bf5 was the first BF game to get ammo supply right

[dapper river]

Oh yeah I got shot down by him one time in a breakthrough game

[daring steppe]

if thats his issue i sayhe should try the railgun. thing slaps soooo good. im almost a t3 already for it

[spiral folio]

And with 2042 reverting to the stone age it'll be the only

[lilac dust]

Well there are lots of stones in Spearhead

[spiral folio]

Is this the einstein quote like
"I dont knownwhat weapons ww3 will use byt ww4 will use sticks and stones"

[dapper river]

It's fucking great, I love it. It's busted, but it's great. I use it for counter-sniping and it's extremely effective.

[silk surge]

Rorch is so annoying if you're sitting in a RAM. That thing does 5 damage per shot / 100 damage per magazine and can't be blocked with APS.

[dapper river]

I used to fear the scope glint, now I associate it with a free headshot

[spiral folio]

Yea the damage rate to vehicles makes the NWT more of a joke than it already is

With the rail ingame theres no point in wasting time with the NWT it offers nothing now

[daring steppe]

that's exactly the reason I use it for. the overpowered makes sense though casue how many ppl gonna survive a projectile that fast through the head?

[dapper river]

*NTW

[silk surge]

I managed to escape from a recoilless gang, and I got killed by a small sniper glint literally at the other side of the map.

[spiral folio]

About as many people that would survive a 9mm,5.7mm, 5.56,7.62,6.5,6.8.....

[silk surge]

Also, the new railgun tank is nightmare fuel for RAMs. It crits 95 and shoots through APS.

I was doing good at full hp, and then bam, 95 health removed, I turn on APS, and then BAM, killcam shows a railgun tank 300 meters away.

[dapper river]

you could survive a 9mm to the head, depending on what the round was made of, how much your frontal lobe absorbs the damage, how quickly you're admitted to the ER and how good your trauma surgeon is... and that's about the biggest round you could theoretically "survive" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spiral folio]

Well given its a combat game and youre using combat ammo. Fmj

9mm is known to overpenetrate

[silk surge]

Wouldn't want to use non-combat ammo.

[dapper river]

a wise man told me it blows out the lung

[spiral folio]

The smallest round in the game is the 5.7 but its the same muzzle energy as the 9mm

Yea
Holdoram.gif literally a 9mm exactly

[next onyx]

Oh yeah the p125 uses 5.7.

[spiral folio]

What iiii dont get... ia the ammo capacity on the p125 is 17

[dapper river]

Wait, you guys aren't loading your mags with blanks?

[spiral folio]

The pf51 and p125 both are 5.7 and oh the p90 too

But like the ruger 57 holds 20rds

[silk surge]

Woah, launch day never ended for you it seems.

[spiral folio]

Why would you bullpup a pistol to hold less

[dapper river]

||it's an old clip lol||

[spiral folio]

Just saiyan

[silk surge]

Wait a minute... this is the old UI.... this is an old clip

[dapper river]

because.... FUTURE

[spiral folio]

I know "muhhhhrrr its not a simulator "

But like
Iunno they even ironically look like ruger mags

[silk surge]

Lol, I clicked the spoiler tag afterwards

[dapper river]

dice is having an oopsie

[spiral folio]

The goofy digital screen though

I haven't reached lvl28 yet

But like for me
Counting to even 20 is fairly easy

I dont mean to brag

Dunno how much infotainment you want on a handgun

[dapper river]

counting takes too much brainpower, brainpower better spent magdumping and keeping your rounds on target

[spiral folio]

Miles per grain of powder?

[kindred flint]

its a good thing I wasn't drinking anything when reading this line

[spiral folio]

-gun bings-
"Time for your oil change. You have fired 100 rounds"

[kindred flint]

Ak be like..."what's oil??"

[buoyant lake]

what’s considered the best dmr in this game

[spiral folio]

"Alexa cancel oil change!"
[Locking trigger]
"Alexa unlock! Alexa fire!"

[daring steppe]

i just saw someone at lvl s444

[spiral folio]

-throws gun-

[kindred flint]

Bsv m still good... Vcar only if you don't care about your trigger finger

Not sure the svk is any better than the dm7 anymore and you get pitiful ammo on your standard mags for some reason

[buoyant lake]

im just kind of enjoying svk atm

apart from having negative ammo count

[kindred flint]

Just play angel exclusively when using it

[timid hearth]

I bought 2042.
it runs well and is a fun game

[rain blaze]

What ever happened to assist counts as kill? Discuss.

[kindred flint]

Dice forgot about this feature

[buoyant lake]

no more consolation prize

[rain blaze]

Yeah. One to bring back.

[buoyant lake]

either finish ur kills or don’t get credit 😡

[rain blaze]

Especially when I do all the damage.

[kindred flint]

Much like being able to stop a reloading pump shotgun and shoot

[dapper river]

this is what "smart" guns will actually be like, not the magical tracking rounds from Titanfall and Cyberpunk

[royal trail]

you still get the exp of a kill when you get an assist tho

[kindred flint]

You shut your mouth... smart weapons in 2077 aren't a crutch at all !

[royal trail]

so they dont screw you over entierly

[uncut bay]

smart weapons are so fun

i've got the mod that only has crosshairs for smart guns

feels so authentic

[royal trail]

smart guns like in cyberpunk 2077 who autoguides the bullets to headshots?

[dapper river]

They make the game too easy, my build isn't even fully optimized for them but my smart guns still shred ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut bay]

not necessarily headshots

but yeah

[royal trail]

cool

not broken at all

[uncut bay]

meh

[royal trail]

[uncut bay]

as broken as a netrunner build that lets you neg adam smasher in 5 hacks

some stuff is better than others but anything can be op if you make it so

[dapper river]

you need to "tag" the head first and that requires line of sight, but it feels so great curving a sniper round around cover to dome a guy that's hiding

[royal trail]

lol

well i really hope they dont add stuff like that

😄

[uncut bay]

smart snipers are so fun

[royal trail]

anyway i want bf2142 to be added to portal as a christmas gift

dice plz

[spiral folio]

Army has a prototype smoothbore .50cal with guided rounds

[royal trail]

sweet

i still dont want them to add em

haha

[spiral folio]

Or the raytheon 40mm AT missile you can launch from an underbarrel grenade launcher would be top of my wishlist

[cunning acorn]

bro your colour in this is insanly good. I dont have that

[lilac dust]

https://twitter.com/BenWalke/status/1597276346539212800

Railgun nerf on the horizon

[spiral folio]

The raytheon "pike" 40mm

Instantly turns any 40mm launcher into a guided missile launcher

Think it's laser guided

[stiff pollen]

NO PLEASE DONT NERF IT AGAINSY VEHICLES ITS MY ONLY CRUTCH BECAUSE I CANT LEARN HOW TO USE VEHICLES 😭

I love twitter replies to bf

[royal trail]

just use rao to disable the vehicles, problem solved

[stiff pollen]

Literally it is so easy on god this is the easiest battlefield to use vehicles in

If they dumb them down anymore you’re gonna have cod players who can go 150-0 in vehicles

I went 44-2 using a bolte in 2022 just running people over and using cluster mines

Like bro

[spiral folio]

Well like i said before my prediction is "enhanced bullet trail" since the gun isnt itself suuuper op

[stiff pollen]

They’re tweaking the damage to vehicles solely I bet

Most players aren’t good enough to actually hit their shots with the MK4

[spiral folio]

Could be

[stiff pollen]

With this games population on PC… that’s what, 50k players?

Maybe?

[spiral folio]

With the rail how it is, the NTW is worthless

[stiff pollen]

And maybe like 5% of them can actually hit their shots

NTW can get one shots without aiming for the head, it always be good.

[mental delta]

With Steam 15000, outside Steam probably a good other 15000 so I would say 30000 on PC

[spiral folio]

Yea but the drop on the ntw is like 4 mils at 200m...

[stiff pollen]

EAplay origin and EGS

So probably a good number yeah

Most engagement distances in this game don’t go past 100 meters as infantry

[mental delta]

Yup but let's not forget to count Xbox Series S and PS5 players which make part of the count as they are forced to use crossplay

[stiff pollen]

No I said 50k~ pc alone

[spiral folio]

To get a 1st shot headshot with the ntw at 200+ youd have to be a pretty expert player.

To 1st shot headshot with the rail you have to be able to see their head

[stiff pollen]

Probably like

[royal trail]

console players should be able to turn off crossplay and only play against other consoles to be honest

[stiff pollen]

150k people playing on all platforms

[mental delta]

I would say a max of 50k players with PS5 and Xbox Series S included

[stiff pollen]

Maybe more maybe less I have no idea with gamepass

[spiral folio]

Ntw only does better damage to light vehicles too

[mental delta]

[spiral folio]

Damage to armor is mediocre at best

[mental delta]

On consoles you can't play without crossplay on

[stiff pollen]

Sucks to suck

You could always plug in a keyboard OH WAIT

Dice for the win

[royal trail]

lol

[stiff pollen]

“MNK support for consoles is not on our list”

[royal trail]

why isnt keyboard and mouse a default feature for todays consoles

dont get it

[mental delta]

I wouldn't play with Mouse and Key on console lol

Even if I could

[stiff pollen]

Meanwhile CoD has MNK on console but nobody uses it cause it’s worse than RAA on a controller

[fiery shoal]

its weird people even want that feature

[spiral folio]

They should like massively buff rhe NTW but stop letting it hip/standing fire

[glad mulch]

Actually recently I always get into a game with crossplay off. But sometimes it does take some time, but eventually the match starts.

[mental delta]

MK on console ?

[fiery shoal]

ye

[arctic grove]

It’s not, KBM should be in games by default when they are cross play with PC

[spiral folio]

Cause it's a 65lb rifle

[mental delta]

You're lucky I turned crossplay on a good 8 months ago cause I wasn't able to play if not

[arctic grove]

CoD understands this just fine and for the past 3 yrs we’ve had KBM support because the games have also been crossplay with consoles to PC

[fiery shoal]

ehh, for competitive/ranked games id agree, for a casual sandbox shooter i dont get the point in separating them

[royal trail]

let the console players decide for themselves how they want to play, just like pc players

[stiff pollen]

Except there ain’t no point getting good with MNK on cod

Unless you’re stodeh

[arctic grove]

Separating them? I’m confused

[fiery shoal]

i mean, console has always been limited compared to pc

[fiery shoal]

"It’s not, KBM should be in games by default when they are cross play with PC "

i thought this was you saying kbm should be in their own lobbies

[mental delta]

Yup I enjoy play with controller a lot and even more to control vehicles, I can understand some people find it frustrating to play with a controller against PC players though because you can feel it

[arctic grove]

Like Nyphon said KBM as a platform actually would be better on games like battlefield and CoD so yeah I think there is a point

[stiff pollen]

No

[arctic grove]

Ah no my bad man, I meant just a supported feature for console players

[stiff pollen]

You lose 95% of fights against controller

[fiery shoal]

then you likely suck

[stiff pollen]

Battlefield has shit controller support

[arctic grove]

As a controller player.. false

[mental delta]

LMAO

[stiff pollen]

CoD it’s overtuned

[fiery shoal]

ill say cod has too good of aim assist, but even then i still commonly beat controller players

there are pros and cons

[stiff pollen]

I mean sure I could just use a shotgun every match and turn off my brain

[drowsy shuttle]

not in battlefield.

in mw2 however...

[stiff pollen]

That’s what I said

[kindred flint]

This is my shocked face, imagine yet again not testing shit before releasing something broken

[stiff pollen]

[fiery shoal]

turn speed, headshot accuracy, specific ranges benefits others, etc

[arctic grove]

Ah then if you meant in CoD then the only necessary solution is to turn it down a notch

[mental delta]

I struggle more with a controller against PC on BF than on COD tbh

[stiff pollen]

That’s what we both said

The controller input on battlefield is broken

Has been since launch

[arctic grove]

Indeed

[fiery shoal]

yea we all agree because thats just the fact that cod AA is too good

[stiff pollen]

Every controller player has agreed, there’s little to no AA and if there is it’s inconsistent

[fiery shoal]

i wouldnt call it broken, it just not as good as games like cod

just because controller players are used to infinite, cod, and fortnite levels of AA doesnt mean BF having less AA means its "broken"

[stiff pollen]

The AA would turn off half the time and there was like a good half second of latency

[fiery shoal]

thats some weird "logic" if you can even call it that

[stiff pollen]

I’ve seen videos between PS4 and PS5 of the same game

[arctic grove]

I don’t play infinite, Fortnite or that many CoD games but even I can attest to the aim assist being fucky on its own

[foggy halo]

[spiral folio]

AA as in anti air?

[stiff pollen]

PS5 and Xbox S and X both had weird input latency

[fiery shoal]

aim assist

[stiff pollen]

Whereas Xbox one and ps4 had little to none

[drowsy shuttle]

anonymous alcoholics

[spiral folio]

Just call it cheating/aimbot

[fiery shoal]

thats not what AA is though...

[stiff pollen]

Might as well

[spiral folio]

But AA is anti air.

[mental delta]

Lmao yeah it's a bit overpowered

[arctic grove]

It likes to slow down around targets still, adad and crouch spam can break it, and it’s usually too strong in cqc

[spiral folio]

So it cant have that

[fiery shoal]

ehh, i think most people dont know what they are talking about or understanding of mechanics

[arctic grove]

I suppose so, but it’s definitely still not where it should be on its own

[pine roost]

Slowdown is fine, but the rotational stuff that cod pulls off is simply inhuman

[stiff pollen]

Rotational AA in apex and CoD is inhuman and often saves shit players

[pine roost]

I wouldn’t mind as much if these devs found a way to implement input based matchmaking as an option or not force crossplay on

[spiral folio]

Yea theres a difference functionally between like making a slowdown and doing it for you

[arctic grove]

By slowdown I mean in a targets aura as opposed to where it should be aka on the target, the issue we had since launch before august, then it got a lil better

[mental delta]

I feel like the major problem with controller on BF against mouse and keyboard users is to control your fire at long distances and with certain weapons, it's just easier to adjust your fire on distant targets

[stiff pollen]

No MNK is just objectively better for battlefield

Cause battlefield on console s treated as lesser

Even though they had partnerships with Xbox

[pine roost]

At least console players are able to play exclusively with their own input device

[spiral folio]

Well yea.. like if you have aiming guidance which would you rather have? Biased to head or body for more hits

[stiff pollen]

Having played battlefield on console for years before making a switch, that shit was ass. BF1 was the best console battlefield

[arctic grove]

I doubt it’s treated as a lesser necessarily considering BF1s movement was definitely designed for controllers

They just aren’t doing it correctly. Even PC has its bad end of the stick with bad optimization and input delays

[fiery shoal]

im guessing hiijinksss doesnt know about actual input problems mice had up until the latest patch...

that devs even had to talk about

[stiff pollen]

Yeah I know but I’d still use MNK

[mental delta]

I wouldn't say that though, piloting some vehicles on consoles is much more enjoyable

[stiff pollen]

You realize I’ve been playing since launc right 🤨

[fiery shoal]

how can you say controller is treated as a lesser when there was a bigger problem the devs had to actually talk about for mnk though? that makes no sense

[arctic grove]

yes however MNK is just better for shooters

than controller

controller = vehicles
MKB = shooting

[stiff pollen]

Because I’ve seen controller players attempt to play on console and the game was fucked

[fiery shoal]

? what does that even mean

[stiff pollen]

I already explained

Latency, AA being inconsistent

[mental delta]

Lmao imagine playing NFS with MNK

[spiral folio]

Mouse N keyboard? Why include the N

[fiery shoal]

latency is a problem with mnk...

[stiff pollen]

There is latency on controllers too

[spiral folio]

I cant share the relevant meme but trust me its hillarious

[fiery shoal]

thats my point

...

[mental delta]

What do you guys mean by latency

[stiff pollen]

Hold on lemme find the damn TBAG video

[fiery shoal]

you say one is a lesser when both have the same problems OTHER than AA which mnk just doesnt have...

TBAG xD

dudes a joke

[stiff pollen]

I know but he explained it best

There’s no other big controller players for this game

This game is more dead than division 2 on console

[arctic grove]

ong thatd be painful

[fiery shoal]

im gonna guess he is likely salty AA isnt busted like COD and rages about it

[arctic grove]

controller can be good for fps

but nowhere near M&K

[mental delta]

Yup that might not be really enjoyable

[fiery shoal]

theres been known input delay for a while now, its supposed to be fixed since last update but i havent played so idk

[stiff pollen]

No he actually had a video of him showing side by side him clicking buttons and there’d be input latency

The PS5 version has noticeably more latency

Than the PS4 version

[fiery shoal]

the same as input delay for mnk right?

[stiff pollen]

Sure?

[fiery shoal]

which isnt an indication of console being "lesser" like you tried to say

i havent argued there isnt input delay fyi

[pine roost]

Maxiq is a player who even I watch for the strategic side of his gameplay

[shell ermine]

Last time they fixed KB&M latency it also fixed controller latency because DICE

[mental delta]

Since launch ?

[fiery shoal]

console had better performance than pc as well...

so the idea that console are treated as a lesser is just weird

[stiff pollen]

Oh yeah 60 fps

[fiery shoal]

you know what it takes for a pc to get 60 fps in this game?

[stiff pollen]

Now or launch

[shell ermine]

With BF3, definitely, but not really before or since.

[spiral folio]

Remove the training wheels

[fiery shoal]

at ANY point i can almost guarantee its a lot more money than a console costs

[pine roost]

Don’t forget when the controller settings for aiming would actually override your mouse settings

[stiff pollen]

Bingo

[mental delta]

Constant 60 fps for a BF game is enough, even ore for a 128 players game

[fiery shoal]

you need a 10400/3600 and a fairly modern midtier gpu to get consistent 60 fps in 2042

[stiff pollen]

Im just saying I haven’t seen any console players say they enjoy playing against PC lobbies

[fiery shoal]

aka, console gets better performance

[stiff pollen]

Except energized knight but he’s a no life

[shell ermine]

Consoles this gen have better price/performance rates than PCs.

[fiery shoal]

why would they? they enjoy busted levels of aim assist in other games and no one likes getting stomped from better players

[spiral folio]

A consoles framerate might be better because its a dedicated machine that does 1 thing

[mental delta]

What do you think would happen if I play PS4 version of BF2042 on PS5 ?

[stiff pollen]

Which is why Sony said Battlefield only sold 89 million copies compared to cods 400 million

Solution: game needs to punish MNK for breathing

[shell ermine]

Coke and Pepsi

[stiff pollen]

Problem solved 300 million copies sold

[pine roost]

One thing that I am interested in though is gyro aiming. If they straight up removed aim assist and replaced it with accurate gyro aiming then that would be a different story

[shell ermine]

MW2 added gyro aiming in the last patch lmao

[stiff pollen]

What battlefield needs to do is make hardline 2 and have everyone dual wield m16’s and have anime skins that twerk

Just like cod mobile

[arctic grove]

I haven’t really picked up any CoD games since MW19 in 2019 anyways and I rarely play it because thank CoDs great compression, so I wouldn’t say it’s because I enjoy busted AA, but because 2042s AA isn’t up to par with where it should be. Not to mention my problem isn’t even necessarily AA, it’s the lack of kbm support a year into a crossplay with PC games lifespan

[shell ermine]

I hate it

[pine roost]

It’s the closest controllers have been to mouse style aim

[arctic grove]

Even if the AA worked fine I’d still be an advocate for KBM support on consoles

[stiff pollen]

There’s only like two games out there right now that actually have busted aim assist and it’s apex and CoD.

[pine roost]

High skill ceiling but takes time to learn, that’s ideal

[spiral folio]

CoDs weird future arc with space ships and crap

[stiff pollen]

Overwatch you don’t even get AA in crossplay lobbies

[shell ermine]

I'm too old to learn an entirely new control method now. The "reward" isn't worth the effort

Talking about gyro

[arctic grove]

All you’ll really learn is more precision with a mouse

The rest stays effectively the same

Ah, gyro

[stiff pollen]

Gyro is a game changer and frankly should be what’s implemented more than rotational aim assist

I want you to chuck your controller into your chest if you wanna hit me

[pastel loom]

not a fair comparison
cod's 2 to 3 dev teams cycle makes the series release a game ever year

[pine roost]

Gyro would have to learn the same fundamentals of aiming as mouse has to, which I do like

[stiff pollen]

Main issue: Xbox doesn’t have gyro support in their controllers and I doubt they’re gonna make new ones to support it

[shell ermine]

I can remember when people said Wii style motion/pointer controls would revolutionize shooters on consoles.

Still waiting for that to happen

[stiff pollen]

Maybe the elite v3

Motion controls solo are awful, but motion controls alongside analog aiming is actually godly

[shell ermine]

It would take a deliberate hard and painful push from console makers to make gyro supplant analog control that in all likelihood they won't do.

You put a steep barrier in front of most people and they'll just give up

[stiff pollen]

They won’t, gyro ideally is an assist

[pine roost]

I know they won’t since they’ll prefer to take the easy option

But I wouldn’t care if the option to play with my own input was present

[stiff pollen]

CoD will add gyro and cod players will figure out if you stick the controller up your ass you get 5% more aim assist

[raven whale]

What does siege mode do on the tank?

[pine roost]

Reduces the time it takes to charge a shot, reduces the time it takes to load the next shot, but it makes you move slowly

[upbeat gust]

Wasn't it like it also gives more damage?

[vast hollow]

Anyone else experiencing an issue with the game where you're mid-match and the game just randomly turns black?

Fresh install.

Alt tabbing fixes it for like 30 seconds.

[tacit sphinx]

i think it’s more that it increases the damage output by nature of increasing the rate of fire

[kindred flint]

At what cost though... being a fat bottom girl tank

[quiet shell]

A full year after launch and the MP9 still doesn't have a sound effect for it's bolt release when reloading

[fiery shoal]

literally unplayable

[quiet shell]

No it's just such a small thing that could be like a 2 second fix

[limpid pond]

Well first day back on after 3 days and by God are the campers 10 fold

Free 2 play kids actually make me wanna shut the game off when doing challenges

[young solar]

bruh where are you farming

[sharp marten]

@next onyx you have the knife t1 yet?

[fervent mantle]

Is there a way to see top repairs in stats? Im approaching 3 million and want to see where i s5and

Stand*

[arctic grove]

RIP S1 and S2 battlepass skins