battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Otherwise even to this day I find no problems with that

[raw ice]

Gotcha, thank you!

[old mantle]

I could be wrong though

[low timber]

It does, but it’s very inconsistent

[chilly dove]

when you say "this" you mean BF3?

or BF2042?

[raw ice]

Oh okay hmm

Gotcha

[arctic grove]

I believe you’re referring to BF3-BF1 right?

[old mantle]

Kinda glad irish is getting a different ability though

[arctic grove]

Maybe even prior to BF3

[raw ice]

It doesn't destroy Liz's rockets right?

[low timber]

It does

[chilly dove]

yeah the 4 classes and how they are the 4 models per team

[low timber]

Not at first, but has now for few updates ago

[chilly dove]

for quite a few games yeah

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah. Yes that system

[chilly dove]

k well now my thought experiment continues. count the specialists in BF2042 currently.

[arctic grove]

Those games lacked customization which I didn’t have a massive problem with since you looked dope as hell by default. But it would be more modern to include additional options

[chilly dove]

we're at 12 and climbing

and each specialist can vary quite a bit more than what some of the old classes could

you can make some pretty militaristic or atleast combat-realistic outfits for all if not most of them

[arctic grove]

Eh

Why new tank, we need new Jet :( they're miserable right now

Somewhat, but there’s nothing that really grants you an otherwise more anonymous or standardized look

[ebon pilot]

maybe jets are getting moved to their own category this season

[arctic grove]

You can still look at anyone and immediately recognize what specialist that is

[chilly dove]

I think some of the random / generic helmets do that

[arctic grove]

Dozers blast something helmet is really good though

[chilly dove]

i generally get confused with quite a few people playing mackay / casper / angel

is it bad being able to distinguish a specialist?

[arctic grove]

What they can do for 2042 is continue to add more unique bundles but also more standardized or militaristic customization as well. But for the next game they just need to erode specialists entirely out. Maybe return to elite characters at the least

[chilly dove]

are you sure you're not just focusing on the name?

[silk surge]

The most baffling part about the whole thing was that... Tactical beanies are an actual thing that exists... and people were mad at DICE because they thought DICE invented tactical beanies.

[arctic grove]

What name?

Ya mean the beanie?

[chilly dove]

if we said BF2042 had a 12 class system

or if we called the battlefield 3 classes "specialists"

and gave them specific names

[arctic grove]

wut?

[chilly dove]

Imagine BF3's engineer was named Dimitry Mayakovsky

[silk surge]

Nah, because the specialists are really just a modern incarnation of the battle perks of BF4 along with a gadget with a personality attached to them. When people are talking about classes, they're referring to things like weapon/gadget restrictions to give every role more of an identity.

[chilly dove]

or if the US engineer was called "Blackburn" and the rest were like, "Campo" and w/e the other names are

[chilly dove]

I disagree with this for a complex different reasoning that I don't want to get into again, but anyway

[arctic grove]

a bit confused

[last swift]

xD

[chilly dove]

I'm saying that the individuality of BF2042 is greater than that of most of the older gamers in terms of character selection

[arctic grove]

It definitely does grant more individuality with the specialists yes

[chilly dove]

and my reasoning is actually because of the hollowness of the restriction based class system from older games.

[arctic grove]

I’m more so on about faction models rather than the gameplay of the class system

[chilly dove]

like people are blindly and laughably convinced that teamwork only exists when a class system is present. it's hilarious

[arctic grove]

I made the mistake myself for the longest referring to that as the class system

[arctic grove]

Well the specialist system didn’t work that much either

Why can falck use offensive gadgets? When falck should be using supporting gadgets

[chilly dove]

no, it works fine imo

[arctic grove]

It doesn’t. Because I’ve seen so many players takes an ammo box or something that personally benefits them

[chilly dove]

any idiot can fire a gun... trust me....

(have you seen the NRA?)

[arctic grove]

Why bother playing Angel to resupply the team when a Mackay can do that same thing?

If supports are confined to gadgets that help in supporting the team, you won’t have people play support unless they intend to fulfill its role

[chilly dove]

Angel has a specific ability which is better, stronger, faster.

besides, mackay's voice lines are annoying, and that is the #1 most important reason for deciding your specialist.

[arctic grove]

iirc the ammo box resupplies gadget ammo unlike the Angel ammo packs

[chilly dove]

hold up, you're making some major errors about the strengths of the specialist system

[arctic grove]

As a system it promotes doing what you want and greater self reliance instead of functioning with more team play elements. True that there’s special abilities only support specialists can use but it’s not like they change anything if you look at how people play anyway

[chilly dove]

you're also making a bold claim

[arctic grove]

[chilly dove]

first of all, in most games I rarely ever play support (cuz fuck dat)

but when I do, I'm ammo-man.

[arctic grove]

That’s because if you play support in other BF games traditionally you won’t get to do anything that isn’t within the supporting role

[chilly dove]

my support in BF3 hard committed to claymores.

have you seen claymore dirt bikes? drools

[arctic grove]

Yeah 3 and 4 are that exception where supports had some more offensive options

In 4 supports got that one air burst grenade launcher iirc

[solar obsidian]

cod deserve more hate than bf2042 ever did, this game is downright broken right now

[ebon pilot]

can Mackay call in a resupply drop that lets you completely swap your loadout on the field and completely refresh all gadget ammo?

[chilly dove]

I have serious issues with BF4's class system. Lets focus on 3, 2, and 2042. even BC2

[lilac dust]

Honestly man just find a mud patch stick your hand in and smudge it all over your eyes and you'll basically be experiencing warzone. The colour grading is just dull AF lol

[arctic grove]

No, but calling the resupply in takes time. Not to say he isn’t very useful

The point isn’t he’s useless. The point is the specialist system promotes self reliance to the point where you don’t need him nearly as much

[chilly dove]

this person gets it

[last swift]

You can not call it inside a building

[arctic grove]

Simply put, the class system confines certain classes to certain roles with their gadgets. That’s why you’ve seen more teamwork in previous iterations. Because someone can’t play recon and use an M5 or FXAA

[chilly dove]

mackay can drop an ammo box which gives everybody nearby 1 mag. angel can serve up fresh mags like a burrito restaurant at lunch time.

[arctic grove]

They use spawn beacons, TUGs, SOFLAM, etc

Doesn’t the ammo box fully resupply small arms ammo?

[arctic grove]

Jets are too strong to be separate and too weak to be chosen over helis

[chilly dove]

Angel is NOT useless at all.

[arctic grove]

If anything the AGM nerf made them incredibly weak

[arctic grove]

Yes. That’s what I said my point is not about

absolutely bro I can't fight a Wildcat anymore

The specialist system simply promotes more selfish and self sustainable play

Earlier I could fight Wildcats by flying incredibly close to the ground

:(

[chilly dove]

wait nvm me

[arctic grove]

The class system is a dedication to your classes role

[chilly dove]

that was a bad reply, wrong message

[arctic grove]

All good

[chilly dove]

k so you said that the current system somewhat invalidates Angel right?

cuz i'm about to end your arguments whole career

[topaz field]

ehehhehe i guess our prayers were answered?

[arctic grove]

Fun Fact: the AI’s are named after developers

[wide shore]

Yup

[arctic grove]

To be honest, you haven’t really had any great counterarguments

[chilly dove]

interesting, also hi

[arctic grove]

hi, also

[chilly dove]

You're just being stubborn, plus you haven't made any evidenced submissions to backup your claims. buckle up

[arctic grove]

My entire point is the class system confines classes to a set of gadgets that are relevant to the classes role

The specialist system allows any specialist to use any gadget which harms team play

[chilly dove]

Let's talk about Angel vs everything that can be done to replicate angel.

[arctic grove]

Angel and Falck may resupply/heal differently or even more effectively but for the most part it’s neutered by anyone being able to run an ammo or health box

If there wasn’t a problem with the specialist system for both balance and team play perspectives it wouldn’t be phased out this season

[chilly dove]

Angel can literally revive anyone. But so can 2 other specialists in his category

[arctic grove]

Correct. Supports are great for reviving the team

[placid echo]

Not all names no, but I believe the developer names are given a civilian tag instead of something like PFC, SSGT?

[arctic grove]

You haven’t seen the proof yourself for the past year?

[chilly dove]

Angel can throw mags at people quickly to replenish them alot. No one else can do this. Closest thing is the ammo crate which gives 1 mag, and it's slow.

[arctic grove]

It takes like a second to toss it down and resupply anyone in your immediate radius

Lol

[chilly dove]

Angel can summon the loadout drop outside. even if it doesn't work inside, the fact that you can do this outside is ridiculously powerful

[arctic grove]

Also, I’m gonna check later to see if it really only resupplies 1 mag. I can’t be sure if that’s true

Since I myself have ran mackay with an ammo box and spotting nades for months

[placid echo]

The airdrop crate is very useful

[chilly dove]

So there. I have my made my 3 incredibly powerful points and you haven't countered any of them.

[arctic grove]

Yes. Angel can revive anyone on the team. The airdrop crate is useful, and he can toss ammo out quickly. But who cares when the dozens of ammo boxes on the map anyone can use can do all but revive anyone on the team?

If you walk to a couple different ammo crates it will fully resupply your gadget and small arms ammo

[ebon pilot]

"relevant to class role" is a very constraining view. Me running Falck + M5 Recoilless is a selfish loadout in your eyes, but consider the following: my survivability as a support character that can revive any player on the team is of upmost importance. The basic ability of being able to deal damage to a vehicle improves my own survivability which allows me to further operate within my class role without dying horribly because nobody bothered to bring an M5 Recoilless as an assault specialist

[chilly dove]

Point #4, angel can also carry the ammo crate too.

he can do everything any other specialist can do to replenish ammo, AND MORE, because he's Angel, the literal ammo fairy of this game.

[placid echo]

I mean the crate replenishes all ammo including gadgets, allows to change loadouts on the fly and can kill, even skip mandown state

Reviving as him also replenishes ammo

[chilly dove]

^

[arctic grove]

Sorry for saying selfish. Let me clarify that I meant that it promotes playing in a way that relies less on other classes. But your point about this only reinforces the issue with the specialist system and balance

[fiery shoal]

we have every previous bf title except 2042 to show has class and class restrictions work though

[chilly dove]

literally point #5

[bronze orbit]

https://ibb.co/wsjwSwv how do you change the 6x scope to that

[arctic grove]

The shit wouldn’t be getting removed if there wasn’t a problem with it. But I’m having trouble getting this point across

[ebon pilot]

and i have my own experiences in previous titles except 2042 to show they don't and are frustrating to work with

[arctic grove]

Guasta is hyper focusing on my point to portray it differently than intended

[chilly dove]

this person also gets it

[placid echo]

Loadout crate can also be used as a step ladder to get up a wall or obstacle :p

[fiery shoal]

its not a matter of there being a problem or not, it comes down to preferences and what is expected of the franchise

[arctic grove]

Yeah true, but it does create problems for team play and balance right?

[fiery shoal]

if they didnt work people would have pointed that out in the other 8 bf titles though... so it obviously works. your personal frustration is not indication of a larger problem

[chilly dove]

see I said this earlier Make, teamwork obviously exists without the old class system from other games.

[arctic grove]

We aren’t saying teamwork doesn’t exist at all

But the specialist system damages how much of it you see

[chilly dove]

teamwork has existed long before multiplayer gaming. in other multiplayer games with or without class systems. Teamwork will always find a way.

[fiery shoal]

im not sure exactly what you are suggesting creates problems for team play and balance

[arctic grove]

The specialist system

[arctic grove]

Nobody said BF created teamwork in video games doe

[placid echo]

I also wanna say thanks for being civil about this

[fiery shoal]

specialists themselves dont create a problem, it was more of them also going with open loadouts instead of locked that makes a concern for team play (not really balance imo since its open, everyone has access for everything)

[fossil trench]

Will there be 2x XP this weekend as well?

[chilly dove]

the current specialist system is such that you cannot be everything at once. Proper teamwork would be that your squad / team has people who are doing something everyone else isn't doing that is necessary.

[raw moss]

It really dosent exist. Barely any revives and ammo is all for yourself and no one else

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah for clarification I’m referring to their system, not them themselves

Which is what I’m saying I think causes a problem for teamplay and game balance

[fossil trench]

?

[fiery shoal]

theres not really a specialists system though, its just specialists and open loadouts, we are going to specialists and semi locked loadouts now

[chilly dove]

yeah but you people put the old class system on such a high pedestal but i'm serious when i say that it's mostly people just talking out of their asses.

[arctic grove]

Right right, the open load out system I meant

[fiery shoal]

dice bringing specialists and open loadouts at the same time do not mean they are tied together

[raw moss]

They need to restrict weapons again too.

[fiery shoal]

imo yes, i like this idea but its just preference

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-25913746

[chilly dove]

trust me Make, in BF3 and BF4, in conquest, the best squads were running mostly engineer and recon lol

[arctic grove]

I think weapon locks definitely need to be back

[chilly dove]

nooooooooo

[solid imp]

definitely n ot

[fiery shoal]

open loadouts lessen teamplay but have less concern when it comes to balance.. i mean.. the idea that 95% of weapons or gadgets being able to be picked by anyone just shows that

[raw moss]

Absolutely they do....there's no incentive for a Recon class to use a Sniper rifle when you can still just use a Support class with Infinite Ammo....

It completely supports camping...even more so

[arctic grove]

I’d argue their balance impact is mostly present when it comes to playing vehicles

[solid imp]

They're putting in the weapon proficiencies... we'll see how it goes but that's the idea

[fiery shoal]

they added perks for classes though, recon gets better breath holdinf, etc

[chilly dove]

this is SO false. go prove yourself wrong by looking up all of the abilities of the recon specialists rn.

[raw moss]

Who's using that when Bipods exist

[placid echo]

By the way if weapon restrictions were a thing in this game, SMGs would be an all class weapon class

[raw moss]

Your just encouraging camping with infinite ammo

[ebon pilot]

Yeah, weapon proficiencies are the best middle ground

[raw moss]

BF4 did it best

[granite island]

Idk why people want maps to have a darker sky like bf4

[fiery shoal]

snipers who dont want to be a sitting target

[granite island]

Personally I like how they're using more colors

[raw moss]

I see that constantly lol

[ebon pilot]

if you're sitting still I will kill you with whatever weapon is in my hands

[fiery shoal]

i dont snipe, but when i do im not the camping type

[ebon pilot]

even if it's a M5A3 at 400 meters

[raw moss]

BF4 had the best mix. Class restricted weapons and universal like DMR. Shotguns and carbines

[fiery shoal]

imo bfv had the best system

[raw moss]

That's how you do it

[solid imp]

Who cares if they camp, they have a 10x scope and a bipod, which are in the game and so therefore pickable. Sniper doing sniper thing. No big deal.

go kill them if it offends you lol

[fiery shoal]

give main class type like medics getting smg, but then add long range weapons that are good enough but not great

[chilly dove]

@raw moss a forward sniper is far more effective than a backline sniper. and all the recon specialists have forward line abilities that assist with ranged reconnaisance and sniping. compared to just having an ammo crate which is still quite useful and also

1 more important thing

All current recons can take ammo crates anyway so what's your point

you can have the ULTIMATE recon/sniper setup with a recon, a sniper rifle, and an ammo box

[raw moss]

Now you can, but it'll shift to using a Support class with it.

[solid imp]

or they'll keep using recon class and run out of ammo more often unless they go get some

[chilly dove]

no it wont shift to support. recons get better sniper and camper/anti camper based perks

[pine roost]

It’s only breath holding right?

[ebon pilot]

they also get redeploy beacon

[chilly dove]

yes that but go look up the perks of all the recons

[ebon pilot]

and you can redeploy on the beacon without it breaking

[chilly dove]

all 3 are literally broken lmao

[pine roost]

Would you be able to list them here?

[chilly dove]

sure 1 sec

[pine roost]

Wanna make sure I have the right info

[arctic grove]

I’m willing to see the effect of proficiencies on sacrificing class locked guns

[raw moss]

Will be minor overall

[chilly dove]

Rao features the Acquisition trait.[2] Spotting every enemies who damaged him.

[raw moss]

Holding breath is basically irrelevant, I never use it

[pine roost]

Oh wait are we talking proficiencies or recon field upgrades from past games

[chilly dove]

RAO. Gadget Cyberwarfare Suite: Disables enemy hardware
Passive Trojan Network: Downing a hacked enemy reveals enemies

[pine roost]

Oh neither, you mean the recon specialist perks

[arctic grove]

Yeah holding breath is a bit more meh

[pine roost]

My bad

[chilly dove]

so that's just Rao.

[granite island]

Does anyone actually use bipods

[solid imp]

It won't be minor. The whole balance of gameplay will change especially in context of infantry vs vehicles after launchers are locked to a class.

[ebon pilot]

sometimes

[chilly jacinth]

Talk about useless proficiency for recons

[placid echo]

I used one earlier on the lcmg

[solid imp]

Which means people who drift between specialists are equally likely to shift to Engineer as the situation warrants as they are to shift to Support because they want an ammo box or to revive people.

[raw moss]

Seldom but they are effective at certain situations

[fiery shoal]

yea ill be switching to recon just for beacons and this proficiency just sucks

[arctic grove]

It’s probably still up for the chance to change

[fiery shoal]

assault and engineer proficiencies are bangers

[ebon pilot]

other people actually use utility weapons?

[raw moss]

That's the only real exception and I'm willing to bet more players will gravitate towards the new Specialist with the Grenade Launcher for a while.

[fiery shoal]

depends what they classify as utility weapons going forward i guess

[raw moss]

It'll be a grenade spam at range for a couple weeks lol

[chilly dove]

reading the abilities from the game, 1 sec

[solid imp]

It's not the only exception though... good luck convincing any Mackay main to switch to anyone else who doesn't have Nimble

So Assault class mains aren't going to change at all

[low timber]

None, as they’ll be called tactical weapons

[ebon pilot]

they're probably still classifying it as the pump-action shotgun, the lever action rifle, ghostmaker, and the automatic shotgun

[fiery shoal]

we shall wait and see

[placid echo]

Personally, I think that the faster ads movement should be the assault weapon proficiency and Mackay should get something like bonus ammo from pickups

[raw moss]

Ghostmaker might get a decent benefit from the reloading lol if that means anything

[pine roost]

I was under the impression that it was referring to gadgets that shot something, guess I was wrong

[arctic grove]

I’d like that too. It kinda sucks to play anyone but mackay because of that lol

[solid imp]

I can see it. But. At the same time as people at launch were complaining about specialists because "I don't know who carries a launcher" I also don't know that we need to have more cases of "I don't know who can move like superman" out there lol

[tacit sphinx]

yeah utility is just shotguns + miscellaneous weapons which i assume it’ll stay as

[pine roost]

I guess having them reload launchers faster would be pointless anyway since they are the only ones who can use them

[raw moss]

Engineer got boned for that weapon profiency

Honesty should've got SMGs too

[tacit sphinx]

which is… yeah, but idk i think i’d rather they had smg or carbine proficiency (and reclassify a few guns like the am40, aks, acwr or something as carbines)

[ebon pilot]

wym the pump-action is the best gun in the game

[solid imp]

👀

[raw moss]

Ehhhhh that's debatable

[chilly dove]

so casper has the drone which is obviously really really good

[raw moss]

AM40 is quite good

[solid imp]

Avancys says "hold my beer"

[chilly dove]

and of course casper also has the movement AOE sensor

[raw moss]

200 mag= maniacal laughter

[chilly dove]

so he's walking tugs and he has a drone. and his outfit is also half ghillie which is useful

plus the drone can shoot small emp blasts

[solid imp]

would have been interesting for Recon to have some resistance to spotting/hacking

[chilly dove]

instead they are the ultimate spotters/hackers

and of course we all know how wall hack girl works

[ebon pilot]

and we haven't even seen Rao's improved trait yet

[chilly dove]

true

[ebon pilot]

since they're working on it to make him fit even better in the recon role

[solid imp]

my 348 Rao mastery thanks them for making it better 🙏

[fiery shoal]

recon should get innate spotting abilities

[ebon pilot]

like a soflam?

[fiery shoal]

like damaging enemies spots them for your squad

[ebon pilot]

or what every one of their traits or gadgets does?

[chilly dove]

but even right now, if you were to play with a sniper rifle with rao, you could harass ground vehicles and shoot people who hop out because of how annoying you are as rao. then you get the spottings via downing people. he's already quite broken lol

[ebon pilot]

that's already paik's passive

[raw moss]

Someone already does that 😉

[fiery shoal]

yea put that to recon in general

they are also taking a specialists ability and adding to the entire class right?

[ebon pilot]

which one?

[chilly dove]

infact it works on air vehicles too, why did I say ground vehicles... meh

[fiery shoal]

im trying to find it

[placid echo]

Paik

But it's for the whole team

[chilly dove]

and if you get shot at while being rao, that person is spotted.

[ebon pilot]

and if you hack someone it spots them

[pine roost]

I hate that ability

[fiery shoal]

i thought there was some engineer that had their passive added to the class and they got their own perk to replace it

[chilly dove]

lol rao is sooooo broken, it's great

[mental delta]

New operator looks like Rao nemesis

[ebon pilot]

no, they switched Irish and Crawford's classes, and since Crawford's trait was support oriented, he's getting a new one

[chilly dove]

i didn't know they released info bout that already

[fiery shoal]

nvm not the same

[mental delta]

They did

[edgy oriole]

angel shouldve gotten the repair tool

[ebon pilot]

but he's not an engineer

[fiery shoal]

well they can still take paiks trait and apply it to recon class and give her another perk

[ebon pilot]

yea let's make rao even more op than he already is

[fiery shoal]

is rao really op or is this some meme?

[edgy oriole]

idk why a mechanic is past life gets a loadout crate and an arms dealer doesnt

[fiery shoal]

ive not seen anyone play him ever, but i havent played in about a month now

[solid imp]

he's not.. he's loads of fun and quite useful but never would say OP

[solid imp]

😂

[chilly dove]

oh shit, there are new trailers out

[fiery shoal]

the whole spotting "meta" isnt really a big deal

paiks been weak this whole time

[edgy oriole]

he op to shitty pilots and he is op when there is 4 or 5 against an actually good pilot

[chilly dove]

wait a sec...

[ebon pilot]

Rao has like 4 abilities.
Hack vehicles (spots them and everyone inside, disables weapons)
Hack enemies (spots them, fucks with their UI, spots everyone around them)
Hack digitally locked doors (super useful for breaking into an objective)
Spots enemies that damage him

[fiery shoal]

doesnt sound op at all

[solid imp]

but again that's the rock paper scissors of BF... those 4/5 people are focusing just on anti-air then

[edgy oriole]

so pretty much people dont like team work even tho they complain there is no team play

[chilly dove]

ugh, premiere links. stop this!

[solid imp]

a good stinger squad can do the same thing

[low timber]

Growing up the son of a mechanic, Constantin has always had a love for taking things apart, building, and rebuilding them. This skill made him an incredible asset to the Romanian navy, where he served until the loss of his ship left him stranded and desperate. Cobbling together a distress beacon, he caught the attention of a No-Pat vessel and was rescued.

[fiery shoal]

its weird how people complain about several people focusing on ONE vehicle is a problem

[silk surge]

Oh shit, we're getting a Cyborg specialist.

[fiery shoal]

double jump confirmed

[ebon pilot]

sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that doesn't matter

[edgy oriole]

but everyone can do it.

[ebon pilot]

so teamwork?

HMMMM

[solid imp]

lol that's my thing, Rao is the ultimate team player who exists purely to support what everyone else is doing

and at game launch there was NO XP for hack assists

[edgy oriole]

DELETE THIS

[solid imp]

that wasn't until many months later

[silk surge]

The new specialist is a bad guy in the story apparentely. 🧐

[ebon pilot]

yo it's the revenant specialist

the character they add and you ask "why are you here"

[chilly dove]

he's epic

and when people harm him he tattles to his WHOLE team

[low timber]

So was Crawford, but then he defected iirc.

[silk surge]

Yeah but why would an Oz synpathiser work alongside the Exodus no-pats? Makes literally no sense lore-wise.

[chilly dove]

"you dare touch our rao!"

[ebon pilot]

maybe we'll find out in the season trailer tomorrow

season cinematic???

[silk surge]

Yeah, Crawford defected from the Liquidators and is working alongside the Exodus people to take down Oz.... Zain on the other hand is literally Oz's right-hand man.

[low timber]

And he knew instantly when the No-Pats arrived into his perimeter and let them meet with him

[edgy oriole]

maybe szn 4 the specialist are gonna break apart

[chilly dove]

Oz's goal is to take down US/RU. so the new specialist doesn't like US/RU. i can see alot of people not liking US/RU in the 2042 universe

[silk surge]

Yeah but we are hired by US and Russia... The superpowers wouldn't be hiring a terrorist who's directly working for Oz.

[solid imp]

yup.. and you know what's worse than any specialist ability in the game when it comes to team play? This. Get out of the transports lol

[ebon pilot]

fr

[low timber]

That’s why MAV should have passenger seats

[arctic grove]

Day 30303030303 of asking for the MAV to get 1/2 “Passenger” seats

[edgy oriole]

sometimes i leave games bc i refuse to run from spawn to the point

no joke

[arctic grove]

Same

[low timber]

Imagine if they’d make the MAV like the half tracks in 1942 portal, those resupply the passengers.

As you might know that 1942 didn’t have ammo boxes

[solid imp]

I know it won't happen. But. I still want another 4 slots in the condor/hind and another 2 slots in the MAV as pure passenger

[chilly dove]

they don't know this

[arctic grove]

I feel like that would make the air transports OP tbh

[slender isle]

I’ll take another 2 kills

[arctic grove]

More OP than some would argue they already are

[edgy oriole]

they should make the extra seat where you cant do anything like repair. just pure seats

[silk surge]

They're floating the idea that Zain will try to manipulate the Exodus crew. Maybe they're about to make it make sense that he would be fighting alongside them...? I have so many questions...

[solid imp]

exactly

[low timber]

Oz is working with RU, remember from the Exodus film? Irish gets some hard drive that has some US military secrets that OZ wanted to give to RU so they would start the full blown war.

[chilly dove]

alot of this is setup for 2142's world as well, do not forget

[solid imp]

S4 rudimentary mech vehicle

[ebon pilot]

Is that working with RU, or working to get both of them to destroy each other and themselves?

[low timber]

Yeah, thing do get better, but then in 2105 the new ice age started that started the new environmental problems

[silk surge]

He's not working with Russia. Both US and Russia sees him as a global terrorist. He sent the sattelite coordinates to the Kremlin to instigate a war between US and Russia, but he isn't directly colluding with them.

[low timber]

As in the 2142 trailer the voice says that the next century was supposed to be out golden age, but then the ice spread

[silk surge]

Basically, that briefcase in the exodus shortfilm had proof that US was directly responsible for the global blackout, which in Russia's hands would be seen as an act of war.

[wispy nymph]

Do u guys recommend 2042 on next gen

[raw moss]

👍

[wispy nymph]

Im prbly gonna play it when it comes to gamepass

[tardy tree]

its loads of fun

[wispy nymph]

Who is best op?

[tardy tree]

i play alone and i still have fun working with blueberries

[tardy tree]

idk its personal preference

i like mackay and sundance because mobility

[wispy nymph]

Yeah i like grappling

[mental delta]

Who is Oz

[silk surge]

Probably Recker from BF4.

[mental delta]

I hope he's some character from another game

[wispy nymph]

Recker has no voice tho

[mental delta]

Yeah why not, Irish seemed to know him

[silk surge]

Yeah. There might have been a reason why Oz approached Irish specifically about securing really important intel.

[mental delta]

He speaks with his heart

[wispy nymph]

Lmao

[ebon pilot]

he got better

[wispy nymph]

Wdym

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/he-was-dead-he-got-better-mash-hawkeye-trapper-gif-17875976

[wispy nymph]

Lmao

[tacit sphinx]

he just had a cold in the few days of the campaign

all croaky and shit

[mental delta]

Yup, but in the latest update they say that Oz saw himself in Zair because of his idealism, so why not Hannah she was way more idealist than any other BF4 character

[tacit sphinx]

who is sarah

[silk surge]

She's the one who gave Tombstone squad a lift during the BF4 campaign, when we learned that Irish was afraid of heights.

[tacit sphinx]

if you mean hannah she is canonically dead (you could argue it’s an off screen death therefore not a death but why would you do that)

oh

[silk surge]

Hannah is super dead. No way she survived that.

[mental delta]

Maybe she survived to the C4 boat and now is some kind of cybernetic demon

[ebon pilot]

in 2020?

[mental delta]

Well I don't think the Lore is pretty much always coherent anyway, I wouldn't ne surprised if she survived

[wispy nymph]

How dead they cut off that guys leg so easy

[sharp marten]

Reveal day tomorrow my gamers

[kindred flint]

Are you not familiar with the power of friendship plot armor??

[mental delta]

What ?

[ebon pilot]

cybernetic demons in 2020?

Battlefield 4 takes place in 2020 right? Or am I misremembering

[silk surge]

Yeah but plot armor can only do so much.

[kindred flint]

Safe to say we wont see Irish having any involvement in new story videos though... unless they want to recast that role

[mental delta]

Maybe she had been put in a giant fridge and they eventually put her off after 15 years when cybernetic implants had been invented to save her life

[silk surge]

Takes place somewhere in 2014 iirc. 2020 for the Final Stand DLC.

[ebon pilot]

ooh yea

[kindred flint]

She could have just gotten in a conveniently placed old style lead lined fridge and survived the explosion...if it worked against a nuclear blast surely it would have been fine in bf4

[raw moss]

If only we had Rosch MK-1 technology.....

[pastel loom]

bf3 is 2014
and bf4 in 2020

[silk surge]

I'm 99% sure that Final Stand was 2020 and base BF4 was early-mid 2010s.

[mental delta]

Yeah that's what I meant like Fallout style shit you know, pretty sure she can be alive with tons of cybernetic bullshit and technical modifications to her organs

[pastel loom]

Battlefield 4's single-player Campaign takes place during the fictional "War of 2020", six years after the events of its predecessor.

[tardy tree]

i thought it was canon that hanna died

[tardy tree]

yes

[radiant prism]

It is now that Irish is confirmed alive

As an operator

[tardy tree]

we saw pac get completely evaporated

[grave prism]

they should just remove the maps that haven't had reworks yet next season until they're ready, it's only like 2 of them. so annoying getting the qatar map now

[tardy tree]

naw

thats a really dumb idea honestly

just play hourglass its really not that bad

just stick to the points and try not to get caught out in the open n

[ebon pilot]

"ya know, people are complaining still that we don't have enough maps... you know what we should do, remove the maps we haven't updated yet"

[grave prism]

it's so boring though, run out in open between objectives for 5 minutes

woo

[lone wren]

It would get boring removing msps

[tardy tree]

call in a vehicle

stupid

[grave prism]

i dont want to! i am lazy!

[ebon pilot]

call in a vehicle, or find a in-world vehicle, they spawn on almost every point

[tardy tree]

clearly!

[lone wren]

I find the call in vehicle drop useful

[low timber]

BF3 takes place in 2014
BFH takes place in 2012
BF4 takes place in 2020

[grave prism]

when does bf 2042 take place

[low timber]

2442

[ebon pilot]

makes sense, it is the 2042nd battlefield game after all

[fading wharf]

omfg am i the only one who cant wait for the gameplay reveal?

[ebon pilot]

i can't wait either

[old mantle]

I wish they would add the M1 Garand as a vault weapon

Its already in portal why not put it in multiplayer

[chilly jacinth]

its bad

[fading wharf]

i think they add bf3, bfbc2, then ww2 then ww1 guns

[ebon pilot]

no way it's worse than the lever action

[old mantle]

I just want to use the M1 GARAND BRO

[tacit sphinx]

skill issue

[kindred flint]

you should have side climbed wait this isnt war thunder

[lyric solar]

Anyone think there’ll be a new Ranger skin in S3?

From what I’ve seen in the leaked images, seems there will be

[tacit sphinx]

those

i don’t think those are leaked

[topaz field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToR4M6BggQg

is this the new shotty?

or its the M&P 12

?

variants

you know dice love their kel tecs lol

[lyric solar]

Idk watched a yt vid a while ago

[topaz field]

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/p50/

[raw moss]

I thought it was the shotgun that had the cylinder/Bullpulp

[topaz field]

i just prayy it does not have incendiary rounds

[raw moss]

SIX12?

[topaz field]

who knows

i thought the six12 was underbarrel?

[tacit sphinx]

it can be both

[wide shore]

It actually has really good hipfire and kills in 2 shots. It’s definitely not bad

[granite island]

How many hours left till gameplay trailer

[wide shore]

Probably like 14/16

[topaz field]

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/rifles/cmr30/

insanee

[tacit sphinx]

16

[granite island]

I wanna watch it now

[topaz field]

it release at 11am eastern time for me

i'l be home to watch it 🙂

love remote work 🙂

[ebon pilot]

nah you don't understand.
I can't figure out how to use it, therefore: bad.

[kindred flint]

doesnt sound like a skill issue tbh

[rocky kraken]

so

escalation season gonna have alot of content>

when does season 3 release

[eager spire]

it's gonna have more content yes, is it gonna have a lot of content relative to other seasons, no probably not.

[spiral folio]

Well if these moronic class restrictions mean i cant carry an ammo box with my sniper they better 20x the ammo capacity

They wont

Players "whur r classes i need rules to tell me how to build a character"

[copper fulcrum]

You can still use a sniper rifle with an ammo crate

[spiral folio]

If you pick out-of-class weapons theyre effectively nerfed

So "can" is vague

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, not exactly. Who holds their breath with sniper rifles anyways?

[spiral folio]

People with scopes

[copper fulcrum]

There's really not much sway in the game that I've noticed

[spiral folio]

If thats the only nerf maybe not so bad

But

Its still moronic

[copper fulcrum]

It's not like CoD where putting on a scope gives your character Asthma attacks the moment you aim down the scope

[spiral folio]

Like people ASKED FOR THIS
EA please LIMIT ME MORE

[rocky kraken]

wait

so more portal content meaning maps?

[thin copper]

BUT THE 14.5mm KPVT Anti-Aircraft Heavy Machine Gun has to be the best in its league. Considering the fact it use 14.5x114mm. Same round used in the PTRS-41 which is an Anti-Tank/Material Rifle. It also is used remarkably on the famous 8x8 wheeled Armored Personnel Carrier, BTR-70. The KPV is also capable of using AP rounds with a ceramic core to increase its penetration to a staggering around 42mm of Rolled Homogenous Armor at a 0 degree angle at a close range. This makes for a dangerous and very devastating lasting effect on the victims you have shot at. Such as: dismembered limbs, heart failure, lung failure and the most sad brain hemorrhage.

[copper fulcrum]

Also it's just longer hold breath if you're a recon player.

[rocky kraken]

proficiencys are lame

[copper fulcrum]

The hold breath remains untouched for other classes

[spiral folio]

Yea I'm gonna give it a fair chance but like

Its fine how it is

People begged for classes because clown world

Curious about new weapons too

[limpid pond]

I think it's gonna be great

[wide shore]

Not super excited that seemingly the only new guns are a sniper rifle and a shotgun. Two weapon types I suck ass with.

At least the XM8 LMG is coming to AOW

[limpid pond]

I'm cool with the shotgun. The sniper I kinda suck with but it could be fun

Just not cqb with

[wide shore]

See the problem is, I can’t aim

[limpid pond]

Ahh I get ya

[low timber]

Temporyal said that those two are not all, though even if he did find one more weapon reference in the files, it doesn’t mean it’s coming right now.

[wide shore]

I used the Rorschach in BF4 a good bit.

[low timber]

Rorsch

[wide shore]

But this one is different

[spiral folio]

I cant believe people still get off to the xm8

[wide shore]

It’s awesome wym*

[spiral folio]

It looked fanciful but like the chassis was also goofy

Rails are more practical

[wide shore]

Maybe. But it looks purdy

[spiral folio]

Than loopy curvy plastic you cant mount standard equipment onto

The makers wanted the army to subscribe to their unique mounting systen

But army has tons of picatiny stuff

Or the new cool kid is the slot mounted stuff whatever its called

[wide shore]

The good thing is, it’s a video game. So it doesn’t matter how stuff is mounted

Just look at the foregrip on the AKS

[spiral folio]

Well yea you can swap a barrel out in combat

I mean you wouldnt BUY a xm8

Cause youd be like
"It looks cool... but i cant mount any of my stuff on it"

[wide shore]

[arctic grove]

shotguns with 01 buck is broke

[spiral folio]

Im probably most curious about the railgun

I thought i saw a HK G11 on an image too

Another failure people constantly get off to

[worthy inlet]

With good reason

It's weird

[wide shore]

It’s a really cool gun

[spiral folio]

Yea german space magic

[wide shore]

Impractical doesn’t always mean bad

[spiral folio]

Well

Its a tool so

An impactical tool is no longer a tool

[worthy inlet]

It's an entertainment device now

[spiral folio]

That keltec p50 is an entertainment device to be sure

[copper fulcrum]

The Glock is an entertainment device

[spiral folio]

Or whatever 2042 calls it

The kf52 or something

The sidearm smg

Its 1 to 1 a keltec p50

[wide shore]

But it shoots in fun mode

[spiral folio]

A glock by comparison is a minivan

The p50 uses a p90s 50round mag of 5.7x28

The cheapest ive found 5.7 for is .60c a round which makes 45acp look cheap. Most ive seen it for was 1.20 per shot

I'd show you how big they are but no images

They're tiny guys like 6mm wide brass and 28mm long

[keen lake]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1364207004382889?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
Love it!!! Hahaha

[spiral folio]

Uses basically the same lead as a m16 but not as fast

[elder patrol]

Railgun looks interesting

[spiral folio]

Yea I'm scared of how they'll make it work

[low timber]

I’m guessing it’s like NTW-50 but with fast velocity but with a downside of trigger delay

[spiral folio]

It looks a little goofy

Like why not cord it to a capacitor bank in a backpack so the rifle isnt as heavy

Nah lets add weight below the rifle and make it way taller. Thats what snipers like

[arctic grove]

I guess you could look at it that way

[elder patrol]

It's a shame it took so long for the seasons tho

[spiral folio]

It's kinda weird the armys next rifles arent in 2042 ...
But a redesigned m249 is

[arctic grove]

The XM5 is

[spiral folio]

Xm5 is a failed attempt at the arms next rifle

[lunar finch]

Is the 74u good like at all?

[arctic grove]

Can’t be the case if it’s being formally adopted now

[spiral folio]

Or bleh

[arctic grove]

I’d rather it have taken this long. We got a much more stable game

[spiral folio]

Yea i was mixing up the damn xm8

[arctic grove]

Ah

All good

[elder patrol]

Yeah but it took its toll for taking too long to make a stable game, not a lot of players compared to what it used to be

[spiral folio]

I wish devs would stop the partial release stuff

[arctic grove]

But you know, I saw a video saying the XM5 has already failed as the Army’s replacement for the M4/M16, his logic basically being “Ukraine doesn’t need it since they’re winning with AKs, we made a round to penetrate body armor China and Russia aren’t fielding in mass numbers, and it’s heavier” among some other things

[spiral folio]

Well one of the advantages the 6.8mm has over 556 is it can be suppressed

[kindred flint]

if only dev teams were actually lead by competent people that could manage time, and convey that to the investors that are demanding strict release dates 😩

[arctic grove]

To be honest I never got the “too little too late” arguments. I mean we know launching a stable BF game has never really been something DICE can do. Then we ask for things that are bound to take time to change

[spiral folio]

Every game since bf1 has been released half-done

[kindred flint]

what? impossible BF1 was using the premium dlc model...thus is must have been a perfect game

[arctic grove]

But I digress. I don’t know if it’s really within DICEs capabilities and they’re just inefficient or not personally, since I’m no insider or anything

[spiral folio]

The issue with 5.56 is it can only penetrate kevlar at fairly close range... the US is the only nation that fields kevlar.

7.62 and 6.8 will pass through kevlar like its not there

[kindred flint]

zimmerit2.0

[arctic grove]

I think us switching to a whole new cartridge is also bound to cause logistical problems within NATO

[worthy inlet]

It was

[arctic grove]

We got everyone on 5.56 just to adopt a new cartridge

But we’ll probably convince Europe to buy the XM5 too, or design their own guns in it

[spiral folio]

6.8 handles range better and isnt as loud as 556

[kindred flint]

you know the US will just fund every other nations supply of new ammo..like we fund everything else

[arctic grove]

Ha yea, I don’t think it’ll be too too bad

[spiral folio]

Even if you put a massive suppressor on 556. 556 is supersonic and its sonic crack will direct the enrmy right to you

[kindred flint]

you have the right to remain wrong blue name

[arctic grove]

What don’t you like about BF1 Bmac?

[spiral folio]

Ammo

[kindred flint]

ft 17 ptsd?

[spiral folio]

Ammo is the main achilles heel of bf1

[kindred flint]

hellreigel bastards at every corner?

[worthy inlet]

How

There's plenty of ammo

[kindred flint]

nade spam, arty spam (trucks and support gadget)

[spiral folio]

Id never leave bf1 if i could carry an ammo box

[kindred flint]

behemoths were dumb af

[spiral folio]

Ballistics and ttk are also better on bf1

[worthy inlet]

Unlike bfv and 2042 where ammo lasts 1 fight

[spiral folio]

And vehicle balance

[kindred flint]

oi, once they made you spawn with "full ammo" in bfv it was pretty nice

[spiral folio]

Snipers carry like 25 rounds in bf1

Its stupid

[worthy inlet]

That's heaps

That's 25 kills

[spiral folio]

You're on drugs

[kindred flint]

the ammo pick up off dead people addition to the series was super nice imo...plus supply boxes at capture points?!?! who would have thought

[spiral folio]

My arms aren't 300m long so i cant pick up ammo off my kills

[kindred flint]

sweet spot sniping range also...cringe

[spiral folio]

Also cross team chat

[kindred flint]

my hours played shot past bf1 super quickly in bfv

imo it was waaay more fun in v, not just because of the ww2 setting...but many QoL features

[spiral folio]

Bf5 my issue was mickeymouse ttk and planes are broken

[worthy inlet]

seriously though bf1 has lots of issues but it's miles better than bfv and 2042

[spiral folio]

At least in 2042 jets are too fast to be helpful

-turn- ok aaand oh crap passed it -turn-

[worthy inlet]

Playing bfv just makes me angry

[kindred flint]

sandbag got you down?

[spiral folio]

Bf5 maasively favors spray and pray

When bf5 added/ruined the antitank rifles.... man

[kindred flint]

aiming/shooting is improved from 1->5 imo..then 2042 just...didnt follow that exactly?

[spiral folio]

The panzerbusche is one of my favorite firearms and they absolutely made a joke version

Ballistics in bf5 are way worse for snipers

[worthy inlet]

Bfv and the million unnecessary animations when jumping down, getting out of a tank etc

[kindred flint]

i mean....they kind of have to nerf anti tank weapons

[spiral folio]

And damage in bf5 is way way less

[elder patrol]

Yeah that's true, but counter argument, basic features that were in other bf titles should be in the new ones as well

[spiral folio]

Body shots in bf5 are like 40% less

Where a body shot in bf1 is like 90%

[arctic grove]

I personally liked the animations, it constantly felt more immersive and focused in as opposed to instantly teleporting out of the vehicle

[spiral folio]

Still "2 shots" but youre way more likely to get assists and kills of a 90% hit than a 60%

[worthy inlet]

Depends on the gun for body shots

[spiral folio]

Bf5 had better object penetration and the construction stuff was cool

[arctic grove]

Yeah I hear ya

[spiral folio]

And ammo dumps

[elder patrol]

And a flamethrower

[spiral folio]

Wish i could play bf1 with 2042s AI players

[worthy inlet]

Fortifications was a horrible gimmick

[spiral folio]

And bf5s ammo dumps

[elder patrol]

Flamethrowers are badass

[calm bison]

Hard disagree

[worthy inlet]

Give me 2x the gas grenades over fortifications

[spiral folio]

Some of the fortification stuff was over done

Most was good

[arctic grove]

Why do you think it was a gimmick if I might ask?

[spiral folio]

One thing im addicted to in 2042 is the RC rocket

[calm bison]

IMO fortifications offered a great way to get cover out of something that isn’t there

[elder patrol]

Rc rocket?

[calm bison]

Lis

[elder patrol]

Ah

[spiral folio]

Whatever stupid number it has

I have a sniper hunter build i use it for

[worthy inlet]

I hate the idea of having to sit in an area and hold T just to craft a basic cover, when the map could just be designed differently so there's cover both before and after the destruction effects occur

[spiral folio]

I use the bullpup assault rifle with either suppressed or high power rounds.

Then spot em and use the rocket to bop em

[calm bison]

BFV’s destruction system kinda constituted fortifications

[worthy inlet]

And it didn't have to

It was extra busy work added

[calm bison]

Although you couldn’t completely level buildings they offered a lot of exposed areas that fortifications negated

No one told you to build fortifications

[spiral folio]

The one thing i hated about the bf5 construction stuff.

Was allies being morons about it.

And building walls... between your spawn... and the flag...

[worthy inlet]

The game heavily enforces it

[spiral folio]

Effectively securing the flag for the enemy

[copper fulcrum]

It was nice to be able to build anti-tank guns and have a way to rebuild them after they got destroyed

[spiral folio]

They shoulda made some fortifications unbuildable for some teams

Ie machineguns that face the wrong way

[worthy inlet]

Maybe if there was significantly less of them, and only support could build them

[calm bison]

I did like the ability to build a PAK 40 on Devastation and basically stare down a corridor where tanks go

[spiral folio]

Yea some guns were aimed moronic

[calm bison]

Support builds fortifications faster and is the only class that can build weapon fortifications

[spiral folio]

There were also trenches you could dig if you looked

Most didnt

[worthy inlet]

Yes, but there's still most that are covered by everyone

[calm bison]

F flag on Arras

[spiral folio]

I was usually the guy digging stuff

[calm bison]

I did like the ability to just build your own cover

That’s what I really liked about it

[spiral folio]

Bf1 my role in life is to kill planes

[worthy inlet]

Barbed wire I hated too

[spiral folio]

Bf1 nobody carries a damn axe

[calm bison]

In a pinch you could throw down a wall of sandbags to hopefully dodge a tank shell

[spiral folio]

So I'm always cutting wire

[worthy inlet]

In the beta you could cut down barbed wire with a sword or axe like in bf1 but they took that out in release

[spiral folio]

Yea.. ah well

[calm bison]

Not a huge deal

[worthy inlet]

It's one of the little things

[calm bison]

Most of the time when barbed wire was present explosives were there or you could just go around it

[worthy inlet]

There's many many little things in bfv

[spiral folio]

Bf5 had too many jungley. Maps too

[calm bison]

We had like 1 jungle map

[spiral folio]

Bf1a got argonne aure

[calm bison]

I will defend the fact that BF1 tanks are awful

[spiral folio]

Iwo and the islands one id class as jungley

[calm bison]

Iwo isn’t really jungle

[spiral folio]

Bf1 had well balanced vehicles imo

[worthy inlet]

I wouldn't know about bf1 tanks, they were a nightmare to face though

[spiral folio]

Cause any class could kill em

[calm bison]

Not really

BF1 had huge class imbalance

AT warfare was skewed towards assault

[worthy inlet]

As a medic main I could do nothing against tanks

[spiral folio]

Planes especially sny class any weapon could kill a plane

[calm bison]

K bullets were worthless

[spiral folio]

Rifle grenade

K bullets work

[calm bison]

Buddy they do like 6 damage

[worthy inlet]

I've gotten 4-5 tank kills with K bullets

[spiral folio]

Theres 2 weapon classes i didnt kill a plane with .. yet

[calm bison]

Assault and Support only really have AA potential

[eager spire]

To be fair, it wasn't any different than engineer being the only class that can deal with tanks in BF4

[spiral folio]

I'm pretty sure an axe can kill a plane

[eager spire]

K bullets with Scout are just "the tank is low and you're not doing anything else"

[calm bison]

Yeah basically

BFV had better class balance IMO

[worthy inlet]

General Liu rifle does 9 damage to a plane a shot, can quickly team shot it down

[calm bison]

Assault was still the AT class

But support had more AT potential and Recon had AT rifles

[spiral folio]

Asaault can down a plane near instantly

[eager spire]

yeah but compared to something like the Burton LMR, it's no contest.

[spiral folio]

But like any class can help

K bullets were best dealing with the kit classes

[worthy inlet]

Burton lights up your location like a spotlight with all the tracers

[calm bison]

I’d rather take the Fliegerfaust over the AA rocket gun

[spiral folio]

Yea i didnt loke the burton

[calm bison]

Anyone would

[eager spire]

but it still fucks up planes.

[worthy inlet]

Plus you have to be pretty close to the plane for the Burton to work

[spiral folio]

Ks also work on planes well

[calm bison]

Mostly the wings

[spiral folio]

Namely fighters

[eager spire]

it still fucks 'em up.

[spiral folio]

And heavy bombers

[calm bison]

BFV benefitted from granting a crash kill

BF1 doesn’t have that

[spiral folio]

The heavy had fueltanks you could hit and blow up the whole thing

[calm bison]

I don’t remember this being a function

Ever

[spiral folio]

Its hard to do but it works

[worthy inlet]

You can ran into people and kill them with planes

[calm bison]

Been there done that very funny

[spiral folio]

K bullets have a high critical rate

[worthy inlet]

I've got a vid of my mate stealing my kill doing it

[calm bison]

I’ve shot out pilots like twice in all of BF1

[spiral folio]

So if you hit a plane or vehicle with a K youre more likely to disable a module like engine, wing... or the fueltank

[calm bison]

Also I would likely like to give a fuck off to the sweet spot mechanic

[eager spire]

I've never really tried engaging a plane in BF1

i don't play gamemodes with vehicles that much.

[worthy inlet]

I've only done it once, with an RSC

[spiral folio]

I make a weird effort to kill planes so i discovered a lot of stuff

The heavy bomber has an open unarmored cockpit so aiming for the front makes it more likely youll kill the pilot or accidentally hit the fueltank

[lilac dust]

Ok I'll admit proximity chat is funny AF in warzone 2 but battlefield is better. I'll give it that tho for prox chat

[calm bison]

The fuel tank is not a thing on the Ilya Muromets

There is no mention of it on the BF wiki or anything

[spiral folio]

My favorite thing is the tankhunter and killing heavy bombers with it

It'll 1shot heavies

[calm bison]

I don’t think so

The tankgewehr can’t even one shot a regular bomber

[spiral folio]

Ive 1shot heavy bombers from 400m

[calm bison]

You sure they weren’t low health?

[spiral folio]

Before my allies even saw em

Like fresh ones

[calm bison]

IDK man

The Ilya will tank a shit load of rounds

You’ll overheat your fighter MGs trying to kill it

[spiral folio]

They have 2 huge weaknesses

The fueltanks
Or the pilot

[calm bison]

Again

The fuel tanks

Are not a mechanic

[spiral folio]

So if its on approach. Aim cockpit

It is

[lunar finch]

[calm bison]

No mention of it anywhere

[spiral folio]

Man if i had my old kill recordingssss

Its a hidden mechanic

Do they mention taking out engines or wings cause you can sure as shit do that

[calm bison]

I know you can eliminate the fuselage or the wings or engine

But the fuel tanks are not one of them

[spiral folio]

Take a look at the heavy. Has 4 huuuge red cylinders under the wings

Aim at that

[calm bison]

I’ve hit that spot number times with AA and the thing hasn’t gone up in flames

[spiral folio]

Sniper and k bullets criticsl most often

Not AA

[calm bison]

If AA cannot critical it then it’s not a mechanic

[spiral folio]

Thats how i found this out

[calm bison]

You are likely hitting the fuselage

[spiral folio]

You wont notice it with AA

It will work with AA.
But you wont see the hit

Ive got recordings that follow the shot hitting the fueltank
And boom. Out

[calm bison]

Why is AA the exception

[spiral folio]

Its not. im saying you wont see it hit the fueltank

But with a k bullet youll see the tracer go straight to the fueltank and then fuego

It doesnt happen every time but it does work more

[lilac dust]

Guys I didn't notice any containers in the little clip teasing the trailer. Are we in the clear?

[spiral folio]

It works almost every time for the tank hunter

Otherwise tank hunter does like 40%

Or 30% to a fighter

Very high critical chance for engines or wings

[calm bison]

I’ve checked Reddit and most things regarding the Ilya Muromets, even a CTE reviewer

No mention of fuel tanks

[spiral folio]

Oddly its the medium bomber that has more armor

Reddit is for morons

You wont find me posting my technique there cause i dont use reddit

So the fact its not on there doesnt disprove my claim because if i didnuse reddit... itd be there and be as much burden of proof as you require

[calm bison]

The wiki makes no mention of fuel tanks either

[spiral folio]

Ive done it often enough i know it works

[calm bison]

Also why does the Muromets get a fuel tank mechanic but not the other aircraft

[spiral folio]

And i have an insatiable appetite for planes

[calm bison]

AFAIK you can only disable wings, engine, and fuselage in BF1

Battlefield isn’t know for hidden mechanics

If there is a mechanic dice would be pretty upfront about it

[spiral folio]

It wont say "fueltank hit" in big cartoon letters

Itll just 100% die

[calm bison]

I highly doubt this

[spiral folio]

Not just go down not crash but fully detonate and everyone on dies

[calm bison]

I’ve never seen this in action

[spiral folio]

Like hit -explosions- done

[calm bison]

Usually every Ilya just flips over when it dies

[spiral folio]

Well yea like the burned model goes down

But once you make that hit fireballs

[calm bison]

Please present me a video of this happening and I will retract my statements

[spiral folio]

Best map for it is the Italian mountains cause youll have high view of a lot of bombers

[ebon pilot]

except for part disabled, which is possibly the most hidden mechanic i've seen

[spiral folio]

I give honestly
No actual shits

[calm bison]

Ah man don’t forget part disabled

[spiral folio]

Try it on mont grappa

"Engine disabled"
-acceleration intensifies-

[calm bison]

If you’re willing to tell me this is a mechanic on a public server then surely you must have proof

[spiral folio]

Try it

[calm bison]

I can’t

[ebon pilot]

"man this part disabled thing doesn't do anything"
-me driving around, gets hit by a rocket
"why the fuck can't I turn right"

[calm bison]

Because I’m not at my home

I’m in college

[spiral folio]

Then the whole universe is going to die

[calm bison]

Away from my Xbox

[spiral folio]

Get it on pc

Solved

[calm bison]

Can’t

Not enough storage

[spiral folio]

Get a drive from like 2015

[calm bison]

Nah

Too much money

[kindred flint]

tornado comes in at the start of a match, dropping containers everywhere

[spiral folio]

It is one of the best feelings to see those bombers go in flames

[kindred flint]

they call it.....containernado

[calm bison]

Please prove to me this instead of telling me to do it

[lilac dust]

Edna Mode says NO TORNADOES

[kindred flint]

i dont even know who that is

[lilac dust]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053344

[spiral folio]

Id have to find my old recordings

[calm bison]

Telling me to do is the equivalent of “look it up”

[lilac dust]

Not a pixar fan wow

[calm bison]

Surely this mechanic would’ve been mentioned somewhere

[kindred flint]

oh i thought it was a dice dev tbh

[spiral folio]

The best ways to replicate it are montgrappa with Ks or the tank hunter

[lilac dust]

Referring to the short lady in the incredibles lmao

[kindred flint]

i saw the gif

[spiral folio]

Its not so much a mechanic as just a magic weakspot for the big scary bomber

[calm bison]

When I drive home for thanksgiving I will try this out

I doubt it will happen

[spiral folio]

Amen i say to you
you will see and believe

It changes everything

[calm bison]

Hell I’ll even get a friend to check this with me

Private server

[spiral folio]

I really genuinely hope it works for you like first try

[calm bison]

It likely won’t

[spiral folio]

And like weeping tears of joy

[calm bison]

Also I just want to add

If it doesn’t give you points

What’s the point

[spiral folio]

Well the thing is like it kills everyone at once onboard

So you get the kill points the vehicle points and the hit bonuses

[lilac dust]

my god whenever I go from MW2 to Battlefield It feels like I just walked out of a toilet that exploded with shit all over my face and then I enter a bright sunny utopia and I get all washed off in a shower made of Gold

[lunar finch]

I was wondering if the ak74u was good or not... answered my own question. This thing is ass

[kindred flint]

the biggest upset with patch 3.2 will be i can no longer spawn as lis with a launcher thus forcing the game not to auto spawn me making me run 200m 😭

[lunar finch]

What?

[lilac dust]

You had me at confused

[slate meadow]

You know what's even more confusing... Steams most used gpu in Oct 2022 is STILL the 1060 6gb !

[lilac dust]

I don't main PC games, but I bought that for the occasional PC game I was gonna play and haven't upgraded since

[lunar finch]

I mean its a middle of the road gpu that does well i think, why not

Idk anything about gpus but it seems average

[slate meadow]

Nah performance wise now it will be on the lower end of gpus you can pick up a 1660 super for like £190

[elder patrol]

Oh they changed the color now

[spice junco]

whoa nice

not sure how much of an upgrade it'll be over my 1650 super though

[lunar finch]

Well the average stream player isnt that eager to upgrade tbh

Not as many people on pc are trying to play AAA games as u think

Like some people just want an average pc to play low end games

Some people dont wanna spend the money or have the "if it isnt broke dont fix it" attitude

[slate meadow]

I mean I guess because of games like Dota 2 and csgo which are exclusive to steam so those countries with smaller economies and are more likely to still have a 6 year old card are going to be playing those games that a potato can run

[lilac dust]

Why are rangers so damn tanky lol

They're miles better than boris turret and they're not made of paper like his

[slate meadow]

When does s3 drop

[dense hedge]

13hrs wtf

[lunar finch]

Yeah, think of it like a car. Some people care about their car and want to build it, take care of it, and then other people just want one that goes A-B and the people that want A-B are the majority

[dense hedge]

when will they fix the jet physics

[arctic grove]

That’s just for the trailer

[kindred flint]

currently if you try and spawn lis + m5/aa launcher you cant spawn...so the game cant force spawn you

[dapper river]

WHERE DID THAT BANNER ART COME FROM

POST SAUCE

[lunar finch]

Exactly

[dapper river]

nvm found it on the battlefield sub

[lunar finch]

Is it official art?

[slate meadow]

Lmao I know right I watch them sometimes and they look like paper planes flying about it's hilarious and sad at the same time

[dapper river]

yoooo file with no extension

[scarlet veldt]

too large im not paying for nitro

[dapper river]

how is 800kb too large? lul

[scarlet veldt]

idk why it still sent but the file is 12mb

[dapper river]

[lunar finch]

Lmaoo i thought that was a tornado in the back for a sec i was about to say oh god no

[dapper river]

don't worry, the map will still have one, probably

[buoyant coyote]

best gun?

[scarlet veldt]

if you think otherwise ur wrong

[slender isle]

That’s a hole in the side of a building 😉

[lunar finch]

Do we need to get Dice one of those elementary school natural disasters books so they can learn something other than tornados

[buoyant coyote]

imagine a volcano

[ebon pilot]

where is this from?

[buoyant coyote]

should i use a dmr or sniper

[ebon pilot]

based on the file name it looks like there's an even bigger variant

because that one's an adapted jpg

[orchid root]

Might be water finally

Boats etc

They said they would add them

[ebon pilot]

yep that's the max size variant

[lunar finch]

Man i love team chat

[vocal adder]

is this picture real ?

[buoyant coyote]

should i use a snipero r dmr

[ebon pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621843965943218177/915414443708518410/unknown.png

[lunar finch]

Amazing team

[slender isle]

Yes

[slender isle]

Might as well get a 2060 super to upgrade to instead. Or if you have the cash a 3060 (the king of budget cards)

[lilac dust]

It is impossible for me to look at that picture and not think it's an advertisement for battlefield mobile .... I don't know what it is. Just something about it doesn't feel right for a season 3 picture lol

I think it's the new specialist looking under textured

[slender isle]

Baby face rao lmao

[slate meadow]

Oh back to blue for season 3

Wasn't it blue before s1

[slender isle]

Dif blue now

[solar minnow]

Are we getting boats?

[lunar finch]

Idk

[slender isle]

You’ll find out tomorrow or in 3 months

[cyan trout]

Boats n hoes

[spice junco]

mmm yes

[lilac dust]

I like how the season 3 pic has 2 jets chasing each other on the top left and 2 nightbirds fighting each other on the right. Nice tease at the upcoming separation of jets and attack vehicles 👌

[limpid pond]

Why have boats when you can just use a mav in the water

[lunar finch]

Why is this person on our team arguing about people not being good on our team but hes 12-14

[ivory canopy]

So wait - isn't the guy at the forefront carrying a Tavor?

[arctic grove]

“It was on a few BF4 maps bro!”

[lunar finch]

Why do people even want maps so bad other than to larp?

Like i dont see what gameplay enhancements boats would have

[lilac dust]

Oh interesting so one of the Level artists that worked on Kailedoscope also worked on spearhead for season 3

https://twitter.com/TearGasJazz/status/1402664330370424838 , https://twitter.com/TearGasJazz/status/1592936408851042304

[arctic grove]

I have no idea honestly, like what effect would patrol boats / small corvettes have when there’s so much more that needs to be done with content

[eager spire]

fuck boats

naval combat sucks anyway

[arctic grove]

Don’t get me wrong I advocate for enough content to where you can get some cool naval combat going but I’ve seen people talk about it like it’s necessary

[eager spire]

I donno why it would be necessary

i'd argue it never was.

The Naval Strike DLC for BF4 was the worst DLC in Battlefield history.

[slate meadow]

But the Pacific dlc for bfv was real good

And that has naval warfare in right ?

[arctic grove]

There’s a map temporyal datamined titled Dockyard. Perhaps we will see those datamined RHIB boats introduced to that map. There’s a high chance it’ll be an AOW map since it was a pre S1 leak when we didn’t know how DICE was gonna handle additional portal content

Especially since spearheads working title was another one of those datamined names initially under lights out

[lilac dust]

Yeah dockyard will probably be season 4 map

[arctic grove]

I hope it’s in exodus film London but I dunno

[slender isle]

Damn 1 map would have naval combat and the rest would really have nothing lmao

[lilac dust]

That would be cool having the deep water up to your legs as you walk around like in that short film

[arctic grove]

That’s why I’m glad we’re getting a Y2 hopefully with more and new originally inspired content

The 2042 theme can produce some fire maps

[lilac dust]

Wait what do you mean by nothing?

[lilac dust]

I had to re-read that a few times to realize you mean the themes that 2042 has with it's world building and not the soundtrack making maps lol

[arctic grove]

yea my bad

[slender isle]

If they release a naval map that’d be the only map with boats because the rest hardly use the water. Maybe manifest would have it… possibly orbital and discarded

[lilac dust]

Oh I see, yeah that's the problem with this live service 1 map a season thing, but I personally think it's fine having that 1 map be one of if not the only naval map so people that don't like that kind of combat can enjoy the rest of the maps

[slender isle]

Very true

I don’t see why they can’t port over the boats from portal into the game

[eager spire]

consider that every portal weapon that was ported over has had some odd issues with it.

[slender isle]

Yeah that’s fair, but also, o feel guns are different to vehicles since you don’t actually have to change anything to balance out a light transport

[dusky blade]

Tbh we should be getting at least 3-4 maps a season ngl

[eager spire]

i mean the base game maps are fucking massive compared to previous BF maps

[dusky blade]

And they also suck, really badly, and 90% of them is literal open space

[eager spire]

expecting 3-4 of those every season would basically mean more downtime between seasons.

[dusky blade]

It doesn’t take a lot of time to make an open landscape

[lean bridge]

When new season pass