#battlefield-2042
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So how many infantry maps before the player base gets bored?
Yes
Yes but No
Okay I just did a few matches of a Portal server and EACH round my ping was progressively worse
Just like beta
Same exact thing happened during the beta
Is this like a part of the servers?
Beta had persistent servers, no?
link
It didn’t? Ah then nevermind
Idk what’s up with it
Maybe just bad internet for a few rounds? 🤷♂️
I just remember going from perfectly playable to completely unplayable in the beta
Like each round was worse for my ping
lmao, shoot someone and within what...5 seconds squadmates can spawn on them after you last shot them? 
fucking 2 people i just killed pop back into existence, i should have been able to kill 9 people in a row
Tbh skill issue
Can someone remind me did they say the crashed condor on breakaway rework was a new flag or just a new area?
both
Firs time playing a hc server on 2042 and wow
cos that crashed condor is in the new cave they made isn't it?
isnt it in a cave?
I died in 1 hit
its called hardcore not softcore 
its called "mydissmolandineedtofeelgoodaboutusingthek30"
what breakthrough?
yoooo...
Hell nah. Hardcore is bad. All other modes are awesome
weapon proficiency is coming. :o
I suggested this exact feature in January. xD
Good stuff.
It's definitely an awesome middle ground to appease people that want weapon freedom but also maintain the dignity of classes 👌
yeppers! ^^
except they fucked up engineer 
jk they know theyre adding the next op as fuck weapon into utility slot
So now that we're roughly a week away from season 3, I can safely say Exposure is top tier, and stranded is very solid (nowhere near as good as exposure tho) I have high hopes that Spearhead will be dope
as long as i can get away from god awful vehicle sweats
sounds like it'll still have vehicles but be slightly more infantry focused than stranded was
Well I guess the tank confirms that alone lol ... but temporyal said before that it was gonna have vehicle access
I hope they have jets in their own vehicle category next season
As soon as renewal was reworked at actually be playable I can now safely say that the dev team are competent at map design
Orbital and exposure are my fav combined arms bf maps
Orbital and exposure are fucking stellar!
Feels weird to think that breakaway might even compete with orbital
I think if breakaway is top tier, hourglass will be the same
Spaghetti
I'll take 2 cream pies pls
😏
😩
What have I done
Spaghetti
😳
I've unleashed the horny
Horny spaghetti
No this is patrickfield 2042
all i want to see if they did any changes to A1 in breakaway
- insert puffer fish auugggh effect*
there is a certain about of irony with them doing away with the mountain 
They really turned this game into a shit show huh, first 120 breakthrough then map areas going bye bye
Next they take my spaghetti
Still baffles me that the damevan peak mountain on Breakaway was removed. Could they not have just.. moved it? Like theres an entire open hill on the northside of the map that would've been perfect for the mountain to overlook the rest of the map.
The horny police will be confiscating your sphagetti
its like that mountain point was solely designed for the callback to bf3...
in the trailer didnt they portray it to be a hell of a lot closer to the rest of the map?
No in the trailer its just in the middle of nowhere but implied it to be an infantry hotspot
A lot of people hoped for an interior cqc section of that mountain
It's quite sad this game is a year old now and is only on season 3
well the cliff jump...where the fuck were all those people jumping too?? 
They also portrayed the drop to be way deeper. Dudes were diving for ages lol
"oh hey we landed.....700m away from the next flag!"
it was a bf3 call back and a method to show off cringewingsuit
It was assumed the mountain overlooked the objectives and would've been a jump off point to glide or parachute to the next objective
lets see adam come in and defend this now
Anyone noticed the reworked maps get-in order- an increase in better designed layouts? The changes get more drastic and creative. With Hourglass being last on the list, it's really promising i think. A lot of cool changes could be made for it.
hourglass rework will be so legit, the maps just going to be deleted 
Hourglass is now a jungle map 
😭
I hope they find a way to keep some aspect of the village in hourglass cos it's nice to have at least one map in the game with reasonable destruction 🙃
Cant wait for next bf game to just be a picture of a wall
tbh i legit dont know what they could rework on discarded besides them shorting the map between sectors
I’m going to put you in the rail gun cannon on the tank and shoot you at someone
Really wish it was possible to let the map design team know that we want the damevan mountain to stay in and just be moved
Bruuuuuh @sharp marten When I saw you typing my heart skipped a beat I actually thought it was the real deal LMAOOOO
I was boutta be like oooh shit she sees me 😎
bro your definition of reasonable is astounding, what you smoking...share with the class
I couldn't be bothered rewording it. Somewhat, not really kind of sort of slightly maybe a little bit reasonable. Better?
You think we'll get like a phase 2 rework of maps that introduces more destruction?
you know when i realized all the village areas on hourglass were the same fucking building, all with the same side in a sand dune...i was impressed by how fucking lazy dice was
I mean in comparison to every other map in the game that destruction in the village is pretty good lol ... It's shit, but it's pretty good when compared to no destruction lul
destruction
128p
pick 1
Listen to me don’t you come between me and my future wife
I choose both and a DICE team that can deliver both
Well, they move oil rigs now, so i can't see why not. Mark my words that Hourglass' stadium gets replaced entirely too..
If they find fit to remove it they may.
someone remove this maps copium supply please
This game is capable.
I have a personal theory that the stadium was meant to be a much larger aspect of the map but they either maxed out the asset count or ran out of time so shoved 2/3rds of it into the sand and called it a day
Not a highlight of creativity indeed
Tbh it wouldn’t bother me if they did I wouldn’t be totally heart broken over it
https://gyazo.com/2ad239835c11160a323385f841a9b62d Well you need to tell someone at DICE to remove this shit from their website
They might be bad co 2 and bf3 maps but considering they're in this game in this engine can handle it.
make 👏 hourglass👏 a 👏 city👏 again 👏
This
im scared...why is the * there 
They use that because of it's absence on last gen
They’ll just pull a breakaway and bring the stadium in closer
Environmental hazards 
Oh yeah my theory on DICE not knowing how to use their assets basically got confirmed. Was playing manifest earlier and bugged into one of the containers in a container stack and instead of being able to walk through all the containers I could only do one of them.
i hate consoles 
Indestructible lamposts = Environmental hazards 😉
Ground war maps lmao
If it was truly environmental then let me make land slides
Such a wasted opportunity indeed. Remember how the last trailer pre launch made us all think there would be a 'Dawnbreaker'-style huge city area to mess around in..
Poo poo pee pee game thingy
Yeah buddy
Don't give up hope. They might surprise us with the hourglass rework
@next onyx what do you think they need to do with tanks like in general
Isn’t the city area basically the size of dawnbreaker?
Discarded seems like it was originally going to get a mudslide for levolution as beneath the map is a bunch of muddy water and splashing mud texture sprites
On hourglass anyways
Yeah but it needs cover
Every map needed cover lmao
This is actually the second time orbital got reworked
I think it doesn’t have the size of the spawns included
So like playable area city size things
Oh yeah they added 2 giant blocks in the launch trenches beneath the rocket. Where no one goes
I dunno I mean there was a bunch of parking buildings you could go up and mini buildings on the side near the ocean
They added some cranes and a couple containers infront of the A building so that there’s cover exiting
In size probably, but it's just one street basically and much emptier.
I forgot about the parking buildings
The buildings themselves are very similar in size though, with more detailed interiors and roof tops
Increase their acceleration, Increase the speed of their turret traversal initially. If AT spam proves to be an annoyance still I would get them an APS.
But the stuff first listed are the most important in my opinion.
APS without anything else will be a bandaid.
Just increase turret rotation speed
good let vehicle sweats quit
Thats all the tanks need
Tanks need more incentives for infantry to protect them too. Maybe give tanks gadgets that can deploy cover shields
Some lower buidings in between skyscrapers would bring some nice variety, think Siege of Shanghai
Just need a dawnbreaker remake.
Agreed there
Couple buildings either surrounding the city or something idk
It would work really well
Now it's all streetlevel or really high up
Maybe a middle floor on a couple skyscrapers or something
dice needs to take my idea about...what if metro/underground was vertical instead??? 
Somekind of walkway in between skyscrapers connecting them would be dope..
That would be so fucked but I love it
Like almost sideways
Just knock one of the buildings down on top of each other
between elevators, stairwells, cat walks/window washing platforms to navigate the map
many different floors to fight on + roof 
So.. the A point on Kaleidoscppe?
Can we have a map where there is a building that fell on another building
And you can battle inside of that building
See DICE? We're doing the work for you already. It's called imagination..
We got the good and bad imagination
Fuck coming up with your own maps DICE, just release polls on what maps we actually want
what about the ugly imagination?
Kinda like Ziba tower or whatever it's called?
Lol
The ugly is taking the player count back to 64
Oh man I would of loved to play those close quarter maps at their prime.
"work" also known as jack shit
64 is just better balanced/more fun
not my fault dice cant balance this bullshit game design
64p is fine when the map is made around it.
Imagine Exposures overlook facility in the middle of the map and only that with 128 players
found the sniper main camping in the corner
On 64p. Valparaiso feels really good.
that was Exposure Breakthrough 128
Best to keep from remarks like that Bmac.
which one?
I feel like DICE needs to stick with 128p and just upgrade their engine to handle it.
just
all the software engineers in this chat collectively facepalmed
I also don't see why they can't make signifcant improvements to their engine for this game like destiny does. Hopefully we'll see that in year 2
According to Zampella the engine is getting "much needed" upgrades and is probably why we're getting a 2nd year of content
they specifically designed the game around 128 lol...if they didnt make sure the engine could handle it that would be very.. questionable
also isn't 2042 supposedly already running Frostbite 3+?
They need some designers with a better understanding of what makes it fun to play.. Like people who have actually played BF for fun.
idk I'm having fun
I hope so. Destiny made a big upgrade to theirs with their 3rd yearly expansion. Maybe DICE have been working on upgrading it since launch, but that's wishful thinking
They do have them. They're just correctly using them now
This one. Sorry I was handling something else on another server.
We know a chunk of DICE is now working on the next battlefield. I have a feeling the 2nd year of content is so DICE has the time they need to upgrade the engine instead of spending half of development time just making the engine work like they did with 2042
Nope.
sniper jokes are worse than console ones now? 
The maps were already well designed from the start with the combat pacing they don't need more players eee.
Eh I personally cant. The action high one gets from seeing a mass of players charge an objective cant be undone
bf1 maps with 128 
But if it goes I won't have a bleeding heart.
actual ww1 style hell scape
Those maps lowkey felt so empty sometimes 128 would be nice
imagine how many sni......... err never mind 
Leaving 128 will only annoy me if they don't take advantage of the lower player count by going INSANE with destruction and detail. 128 all the way unless they push the limit for destruction and levolution e.c.t
depends on the map...that on fire forest one was fucking brutal just because of the layout
L shape choke point
Exposure proved that, yes. I was like, wtf? After all the uninspired and mainly flat playing spaces you suddenly remembered and pooped out something that wouldn't be out of place in BF4?? How??
the 128 mode had some pretty meh areas though
64 played a lot faster for obvious reasons
there was a ton of dead space up on the top side of the map
Idk most bf1 maps felt too big/empty
yeah bf1 didn't exactly have the best of maps either.
the premium maps were all amazing though right?
Personally I wasn't affected by it too much because I kept close.
because..when you pay for additional content theyre all bangers
Yeah the one map that's playing in my head right now is Albion.
isnt that an mmo?
But that wasn't the only decent Russian map.
Deserts do have that characteristic usually, hard to change that up🤣
Remember the one where there are two giant cannons at either side at the top of the hill?
Simple. Poor leadership prevented the maps from being good and they ran out of time
monte grappa?
Not the artillery truck
Nah not monte grappa.
Like I'm pretty sure the original datamine for exposure revealed what we have now was like 1/3rd of the original map. It was originally going to have a giant lake for hovercraft to fight on with an island in the middle surrounded by forrests
screw you i enjoyed that map 😭
Wasn't too bad.
those little bunkers....
It was cancer on breakthrough though.
blowing the doors open or just turning it into a shooting gallery down the stairs
And what is now exposure was just going to be a single capture point chunk
best part of bf1 was making your own foxhole with a limpet
Not gonna lie the new divison game that'd gonna come out has my attention
wut
Never played a Division game tbh
i personally liked the 2nd more than the first. but first pvp is better
A demo long ago i think
Isn't the new division game a BR? I think that's why it's going under the radar for a lot of people
or is the BR ubisoft are making just under the tom clancy name. I forget
That hyped survival zombie pvp game that looks like a crossover between TloU and The Division seems interesting too
Forgot the title
"f2p survival action shooter" 
any of you guys have weapons you've never got a kill with?
I have kills with every weapon I've unlocked except the vcar
free to play
I thought not?
i dont have any kills with the m44
I think I’ve gotten a kill with every gun. At least 1
same besides new vault weapons
dx1 might not have any on it
i forget
Crossbow
Also you should use the VCAR it is really pretty good.
if you want to button mash sure
VCAR is fucked.
i’m T2 crossbow almost T1 but they removed my favorite mode with it in featured portal
Nothing wrong with a little button mashing.
520 RPM 3HK mash.
I know that, tnx. I mean i thought it was a payed title
but you can get similar results or better depending on how many close quarter fights you get in... with ARs 
lel
The VCAR kills as fast as a submachine gun up close.
Or better comparison. Kills as fast as the PBX.
But has better headshot damage no?
yeah....except you have to button mash
True but it's still a lot of fun.
just taxing i dont want to use it round after round
Uhhhh yeah. Through headshot body shot the VCAR has a 123 MS TTK.
Point is it’s a lot better than people give it credit for
It was originally a really bad gun.
Yeah I remember
But if I had to assume, It was buffed in that big weapon stealth patch.
It's a lot of fun to use.
Getting it to tier 1 within a day hurt my hand though.
I'm not good with snipers lol.
You guys on PC or console?
Console / PC.
Me neither. Lol
Pc at the moment.
Series X
I could try getting a clip with most of the guns.
I'm on PS5
Sweet
Sitting in queue for min's just to be on standby 1/64 forever... is it bc I turned off crossplay?
Yep
That seems like a major design flaw.
Just not enough people playing without crossplay unfort.
Nobody turns it off. It’s on by default
A lot of people never really mess with their settings
Yes.
@candid mist PS5 is decently populated with cross play turned off. I refuse to take on PC players with a controller lol
Well turned it back on let's see how long I sit in queue.
No its not because ur only queuing with people with cross play off
Not that i could, even if i did
Only last gen doesnt have it
My K/D hasn’t dropped really that much at all since being forced to play with PC players. So, 
I wonder what last gen 2042 is like
128 players is supported on PS5 and Series S & X
PS5 and Series X support 128p
Previous gen cannot.
and then there's people that force themselves to play exodus conquest 
I sometimes play exodus but only if it’s a classic map
It's not so bad except Crawford's machine gun heats up a lot quicker for some reason
Exodus conquest would be a top tier gamemmode if it was JUST previous game maps. It is automatically my least favourite mode because you are more likely to load into a base map
A lot of people are comfortable with a controller. It’s not that hard to understand
I play with my ps4 controller on the pc version its fun but its rough at times. I find controller eaier than mouse and keyboard
I hate using KB+M. I find it uncomfortable.
....is this non based opinions hour or something?
Exodus CQ is really popular. Everytime it becomes available regular CQ takes a significant hit in playercount. It's noticeble with crossplay turned off
its the best
yes true sometimes you gotta incresae your sensitivity to keep up with the PC players
It is, u naturally have to play a bit slower on controller
I play with sensitivity at 20 and ADS sensitivity is even lower.
It's what the majority of the world's population uses to play video games so I'd say it's worked out pretty well 🤣
i only play exodus CQ on PC , 128 with controller is impossible cuz mainly PC k&M gods play 128 too chaotic
who want to see my mini montage i went 71-14 on ps4 today o.O
It is neat that PC gives you much more control, but you can't sit back and relax with a mouse and keyboard
Sure, i'm used to play BF on Playstation, the aiming becomes eventually second nature too. It takes a lot longer probably though lol
Yeah that's why i dont really like kbm. I use it to play 2077 but thats it
It gets so uncomfortable so fast
Sensitivity sits at 40 for me. The default settings are way too slow for a controller..
Also consoles just work. Sure they're not as powerful as PC's but the definition of running games on PC is get ready to fix a SUPER COMPLEX problem with file locating and shit just cos your gun glitched out, whereas the extent of the issues on console are a few crashes here and there and occasionally game breaking problems will lead to some troubleshooting, but PC gaming is a much bigger commitment than console.
I'm sorry for exaggerating the hell out of that gun glitch example lol but you catch my drift
Especially trying to play older games on pc...
U turn into a fucking engineer trying to do that shit
Investing into PC gaming is worth it for many people, but I'd argue that this console generation is the best time to be a console main because there won't be a PS6 for a much longer time than any previous gen console thanks to COVID
Which means more games on PS5
Consoles nowadays have plenty of settings too to mess around with. It's sometimes as if i'm still on PC
LOL .... I doubt it sadly
Glad to know they are suffering too
It runs out of the box, but getting your preferences right is still a lot of trial and error, especially BF
Very true. I had to go back to BF4 and figure out what I could carry over and then I realized 2042 uses the BFV sensitivity system so that was a bit of a headache lol
what is this cringe self promotion in chat? 
I believe u can? Maybe i'm mixing it up with Cyberpunk though, played a lot of that lately
why does youtube only accept my video for 360p wtf
oh nvm i see why its processing 🙂
And even worse, some of the same options are named differently.. Had to mess around with the heli controls borderlining frustration
Fuck you angel that couldve been a clip
tell me if im insane for this but im going to try to play the game with 0 aim assist and probably modified sensitivities
i absolutely must replicate what it feels like to play with a mouse
Prepare to go negative
Inverted, legacy, southpaw, default.. If i copied my BF4/BF5 settings it was hopelessly wrong. Strange but true
C ya!
For the longest time I couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t aim around fast enough with my BFV settings
I realized that my specializations were culprit
I play without aim assist usually, but since everybody else uses it and DICE made adjustments i was afraid to have a disadvantage so i enabled it again
I turned it off and I’m loading into a conquest 128 game now
Understandable. I guess I’m just curious and want to have a bad time
And what do you know I joined a game 50 to 140 tickets
I found an hourglass game but it’s 22 out of 32 to start

I never bothered to ramp up the FOV in previous games, but a YT vid of BrokenMachine convinced me to do otherwise. Best advice as of yet, checking your viscinity is alot easier now
Oh yeah plus for less visual recoil too
Here goes notging
Happy hunting!
Best match ive played so far with the MCS 
The MCS is... idk... sometimes it feels amazing and then its just bad
Bipolar pretty much
Thanks man so far a little bit not so good
Congrats! That's quite impressive, even though it's Breakthrough
More a conquest diehard myself, although it's harder to get alot of kills..
I could never get into conquest
Idk
Im not really a hardcore obj guy so i cant really enjoy it
I don't know if they patched it but apparently flechette rounds are insanely strong
I'm not a hard objective player either. I just go to the points for kills.
Flechette has been nerfed since then.
Ah damn, I remember getting long range kills with those
I'd use shotguns more if I was better at cqc
But if I use any of them it's gonna be the 12M because that shits got stupid range for a shotgun
Same
The 880 just needs bigger spread and maybe more pellet damage
Like ill blast someone center mass point blank and get a hit marker? It makes no sense
Right? It really is a bipolar gun
The 880 needs to be an actual shotgun.
This "Smart shotgun" that is rumoured will probably be better.
I replied today to a chap that cried 'garbage, dumpsterfire!' repeatedly, he responded a little later that DICE would do the right thing by making the next BF multiplayer only and returned to the roots..🤣
I corrected him he was making a fool out of himself crapping allover the game, turned out he sold his copy a month after launch and still spewed the exact same hateful bullshit allover the internet a year later on.. Proves that the average 2042 hater is just a clueless sheep that keeps repeating itself without knowing any facts at all.. Pathetic moron
Well in the words of captain price "its not hard to improve on garbage"
I used it for the liquidators event and had matches where id be right up on a dude in the face with it and they'd survive half the time
We shouldn't expect people to make their own opinions anymore. I've seen people spew the same exact complaints they got from the angry Joe video verbatim
If they add mortars this game will be hell
Or u slightly miss by a fucking inch and hit nothing
The mcs is only good for aesthetic purposes
I now want a double barrel shotgun
Pretty much, it has its highs but its lows... man are they low
Alright match but I definitely turned the AA back on lol
I ended up actually piloting again for the first time in some months surprisingly
Just use the 12M I guess
12m is too cringe
Goddamn that gun is fierce
This game in general.
The M44 is good
When there's a high it's high but when it's low it's bottom of the barrel.
Question whats the best buckshot? Should i just stay with #01?
Speaking of high https://streamable.com/7nsq0g
I just use whatever has the highest damage when it comes to shotgun ammo
I've had success with #4 but it's whatever. Use what's the most consistent for you.
A little knowhow of how most BF's get improved in the first year after release is clearly too much to ask. Any vet. player knows a lot can change for a BF title, it happens over and over again
BF4
M44 is too good
https://streamable.com/ppippg
Ah okay
Maybe since 4 is wider itll feel better in cqb
Haha thought you might return to AA quickly..
damn right
Somebody carry me plz
Hop on my back
Actually I'm not great at this game my k/d for my rounds lately ends up being 2
My most recent was 44 kills, 23 deaths lol
I hardly use shotguns at all, it kind if resembles players that try to compensate for their lack of aiming skills.. There is little satisfaction in using it for me personally.
Not trying to brag or anything, it's just too damn easy to use
Nothing to be ashamed of or anything. That's just decent!
What are you playing on??
How do you type inThe chat?

PC
Bet I’m on the 5. How you add?
I think you gotta do it through 2042. I'm at work rn so I can't check lol
@queen trout I can't remember if 2042 does the numbers after the username thing or not but try just my username on there. It's theCptQuinn
use slugs
@arctic grove by the way, I just remembered you said my argument about the reworks being a sign of year 2 was probably correct. Seems to me I was lmao
That's video games for you
I’d like to think we’ll get a Y2 honestly. I saw a tweet earlier from one of the devs that kinda hinted at it
Instead of just a little bit of post launch stuff
I mean, they literally said year 2 lmao
Ah, yeah probably overspeculating stuff over here on my end
I doubt they’d say “pre production and working on content past season 4” if there wasn’t gonna be proper content
True true
I’m pretty excited man honestly
Hopefully they bring us back a lot of cool mechanics and features and stuff
I mainly want a big map pack
Doesn't even need to be new ones just bring us some older ones that are playable for AoW
love when my aa missiles just do spins around little birds for no fucking reason
because flares
Mf looney tunes missile
no u
Season 3 hype
no me
Cope
I cant wait for the map
gonna be poggies
yea I'm excited for the trailers and everything
dice trailers are hype
for better or worse
s3 map will have reused assets from renewal
In the facility
And crates

Gotta love some crates
I hope its completely underground thatd look so cool
And feel cool
When can we expect a new trailer
Idk theres something about underground maps that feel so cozy
doubt tbh but cool idea
HOLY SHIT IT KEEPS HAPPENING
he just rolls and they just blow up
like god damn cartoon missiles
Turn off goofy mode
The 17th i think im not sure
FUCKIING FR
Tuesday
cartoon mode option on
Thats called dodging smartass
No it’s not. I’ve seen that bug before myself
They genuinely like to spin around the nightbirds
hes a real thinker
genius is what he is
200iq bare minimum
"it's called dodging"
incredible, can't make this comedy up folks.

Man chose violence
learn to play

It’s probably got something to do with the nightbirds actual size. Screws with the game
Its not a bug but ok
Sometimes AA missiles spins around the normal attacks but ends up hitting them afterward
If you have skill you can recreate it
I remember when you used to be able to actually dodge AAMs/SAMs
Its not a bug
But heatseeker players dont get that
@cosmic sequoia ur a pilot bought on wish.com if u play heatseeker
bros ascended, he only uses tows but this isn't a bug
i use tow with russian chopper so i can use the 30mm
I’m confused why you’re just absolutely going in on the dude 
sorry in a game rn
it's just not how uhh missiles work lmao
and it only happens in the little bird ?? hmmm
the apache needs the 30mm main gun
Note to self, get competent again with the nightbird since missiles just orbit you
bsaically
I got carried to 30 v 11 earlier using the stealth
They should add jetpack specialist
stealth pilots ://
Aye
I’m scared to hop back into the infamous AH-64GX Apache Warchief
Gray hair inducing amount of lock ons
Especially since AGMs suck now and 127mm anti vehicles have never been that good against anything but light ground vehicles so I’d be doomed vs wildcats
Loll flying helis in 2042 is just stressful
Especially now since you gotta flank wildcats super hard and pray you get lucky
hahaa yeah
Wildcats are so annoying
thats why the apache needs the 30mm. using the tow is so much fun. but if you miss agains tanother air vehicle especially like a stealth chopper, youre fucked without the 30mm. the 127mm missiles are harder to hit than the 30mm cannon
i am hokum / apache supremacy ahha
Yea the Apache is pretty bad vs stealth or nightbird
i just went 35-2 in apache :} only 32 player tho
The gunner 30mm is probably ok but maybe doesn’t do enough damage
Idk how yall fly helis
super hokum is god tier
You’ve taken on my legacy as the AH-64GX Apache Warchief Main
Best i can do is fly a hannibal and get shit on by a wildcat
Just fly em to be honest even if you get pummeled
You’ll have that one game where you were like “that was a lot of fun let me do that again” then boom
the best thing to do is getting use to diving behind cover. it's all about finding that safe spot and getting there and letting the missiles hit ground cover
or a building
Unless you’re playing hourglass then you can forget about that
hahaha yeah
then you gotta stay around the tall buildings or just be on the russian side
My experience flying helis:
That’s a good 300+ meters
I’d uninstall after that
Transports are pretty satisfying to kill with the 127mms
It only takes so many too so they’re pretty good
wildcats on exodus maps....
Flares on that thing take a shit ton of kills
Consume the bots souls
Lol
Then consume players souls
instead of making more and better equipment
The bots are gods though with aa😭
Like them mfs are demons with rocket launchers
yeah sometimes ill get into a game
and i get lit up like a xmas tree
some games its just strafe after strafe
In their defense the stealth helis would be more busted than they already are with flares
Also something interesting way said once
Apparently shooting the stealth helis with anti vehicle rounds turns the stealth mode off
they kind of maneuver weird so its easy to hit them with the missiles imo
If u dont have a wild cat they are
busted against what? infantry?
Going against a stealth heli on BT defending is hell
At least you can lock onto a super hind
yeah but if theyre good they'll just dodge
the hind almost has as much mobility as the condor
Vehicles in general in BT are fucking busted
yeah hard to balance something like that imo
On Renewal BT the attackers get 2 transports, 1 heli, 2 tanks, and 5 cars...
Like thats just fucking absurd
2 transports?
2 transports and half of the time they’re both the air versions
two transports in any match is fucking insane imo
OR
one ground transport one air transport
is like perfect
imo
Even in CQ128 2 air transports is obnoxious
yeah fr
You don’t hold objectives for any longer than like 3 seconds
Like if u thought having 1 superhind on ur ass was aggravating wait till theres 2
And the mini gun ranges which still need to be nerfed
I’ve seen condors literally follow jets and kill them 
idk why bf4 system just not implemented...
The obvious solution here is to just delete the superhind and condor 
this vehicle generalization thing is kind of bull shit
Bf4's system gave u one of everything didnt it?
kind of
Yea generalization doesn’t work at all and yea sort of
could be 2 attack choppers and like 4 tanks
4 tanks? Yeah no
a tank should be separate from the other ones in like heavy armor
well it works
because the maps in bf4 arent shit
or like bf bc2/bf 3
w.e the exodus maps are
Ehhhhhhh
They were fine igg
I still have PTSD from Golmud
Maybe Golmud is where they got their map design inspiration for 2042
Season 4 agent with Predator suit that can make u invisible, season 5 In To Space will introduce Spaceship
when my team doesn't have a single wildcat on the board F
Oh I once stole the attackers superhind on BT and they immediately fucking lost
Its sad superhinds and condors are so much of a crutch without it a team just loses
Yeah the minigund were just like ok i guess
that was the point
on maps where all you had was like a transport and a tank
the transport would sometimes have people on the side guns, but it wasn't like all that OP
and you could shoot it down quickly
Yeah that was nice
They've been buffed.
They fire faster and have a faster resupply time.
The lack of balancing in BT just makes me want infantry only BT
But you really need a gunner.
yeah V.V
the lack of vehicle balancing in general is astounding
the fact that the apache just doesn't have a 30mm option is mind boggling
Ig the devs thought that since aa and at was strong the solution was to make vehicles busted
You know what 2042 needs? A trench map. A current on-going war has shown trenches are still very much in use so why not give us one
i dont think theyre busted i just think that the nature of the game is missing a lot of points that enforce cooperation and people actually using different loadouts
the maps are just abysmal if I'm being honest... they lack soul. they don't feel like battlefields imo
Because trench warfare is mid
Urban combat>trench combat
By a mile
yeah but it's not like it doesn't exist
we need a good genuine forest map
with like hills and mg nests
a good city map too
It exist but it wouldnt be fun to play
i mean trench warfare is almost what we have, except the trenches are buildings
running between points is no man lands
xd
ejection from helicopters need to be fixed, ejected out of helicopters and got killed by it... I have clips of it too
Can we take a moment to admire Hourglass. Now this... this is map design
seriously
this is truly a Battle Field
Like look at all that cover
it's almost like they just mass baked a bunch of maps
Hourglass could've been amazing too
DICE making Hourglass:
"Lets make the entire village able to be destroyed"
"But isnt that an awful idea for infantry?"
"No its perfect"
Fr
Ain’t that what everyone wants though?
Couldve easily been a 10/10 map
Shit looks pretty
Kinda why i wish we left the destroy everything in the map shit in bf1.
Literally once all the houses got blown up most bf1 maps felt unplayable
Good ol’ craters lmao
That is the same discussion BF4 DICE had while making the smaller scale layouts for Golmud Railway!
yeah i guess, at least there is still some rubble, but it's comparing two garbage maps
one is slightly less garbage
i'd rather not play on either.
The only difference between hourglass and golmund is golmund buildings collapse rather than get fully destroyed
Id rather delete both of them
The collapsed buildings were so shit to play on though
Id rather just have nothing at that point
Like, I think once you start talking about smaller scale layouts for maps, you should just scrap map destruction.
Like just get rid of it.
Yeah map destruction is more of a gimmick or something to distract shit players than something that actually improves gameplay
Blowing out walls is fine

But there has to be a limit
Once u blow out all of the walls theres nothing to play on
I just hope Spearhead's 128 version isn't as cramped as Stranded
I hope spearhead has 0 vehicles 
Most likely has vehicles
But
Half the map is probably off limits to vehicles
In the facility
And the other half in the forest outside

Idk the base maps in 2042 the layouts feel kinda assembly line
It's bf1's metro/locker basically
Why have an "infantry focused map" with vehicles
that's stupid
It has a more square layout than metro and locker
just make an infantry map without vehicles you cowards
^
Because there's a difference between infantry focused and infantry only
I saw someone with a red crosshair on a vehicle how do I change the yellow color
then make an infantry only map. because there aren't any in this game.
you're getting showed up by every other game, because every other game in this series has at least 1 or 2.
except for BF3 which had a whole DLC of them because BF3 is based as shit for that
They're saving it for year 2 
doubt
I wonder if they never intended to make a flooded london map but we keep talking about it so they decide to make
It
Lol
what do you mean
I still want a US/Canada suburb map
Leaves come out of the ground in breakaway
like if the flooded london thing was purely for the short film, but then we kept asking "when is the flooded london map coming?" So they decide to actually make it a map for year 2 or whatever
To be honest i forgot about the short film
seems like a lot of effort put into something that doesn't matter
IMO a flooded london map should basically be like amiens, the water should just be atmospheric
I don't really remember Amiens.
Rotterdam?
most of the servers i played on in BF1 didn't run that map
in fact most of them ran just stock maps
Rotterdam is kinda bfv's amiens
Amiens is a launch map
I think grand bazaar was kinda like amiens, not sure
Pog
Yeah, so i think a london map should play more like that than floodzone
Better than Ballroom Blitz, Fao Fortress and Monte Grappa
Ballroom blitz fun
How bout shotgunne forest
Just finished ballroom blitz
¯_(ツ)_/¯
We camped the entire team
Like C tier map
Honestly I can take anything as long as the 12m doesn't exist.
Bro bf1 is to easy
Add 12m to argonne forest
Like way to easy
Ballroom is only fun as long as you don't have LMG dickheads camping the upper railing, once you do, it's game over for you, you can't do anything about it
70 to 80 damage in ranges where assault rifles can win... Yes. "Balanced"
I went my worst just not too long ago.
59-30. Just full of passive rats with SCAR's and 12m's.
But I was a mortar tank so eh
Also someone needs to help the Battlefield Wiki not be on fucking Wikia anymore this makes me sad.
I was thinking of writing some pages out.
Cringe
But I can't be bothered.

I hope the new map is like Amiens in terms of vehicle to infantry balance
They need to not be on Wikia, wikia is a trash site run by trash people.
0 air vehicles
You mean Fandom?
Oh you know it, even my team was angry that I was carrying their sorry asses
Fandom is awful yeah.
Lol that site is so scummy
there's a reason the entire LoZ wiki just up and left them
Got all that community input for content, then turned it into an ad infested hell hole
And then they make it really fucking hard to get your content actually off Wikia
like if you run a wiki on there and decide you don't want it on there, Fandom will fucking fight you about it
They'll remove any links to your new wiki, they'll roll back any edits stating that you've moved, they'll lock you out of what you wrote
They're just massive scumbags.
Bruh
And on top of that they've worked with the US Navy directly for recruitment purposes.
Ok something is fucking wrong, I'm being goated again for the third time
What corporate greed does to a mf
Stop using mortar
Im not
what are you using
Mortar truck ruined bf1
I'm playing foa fortress
And I got 7 kills on the boat turret in under a minute
The game just started

you're in vehicles, that's why you're doing well.
that's not special.
you going 90-0 in a vehicle is not special.
The hating is outstanding
Hate for vehicle abusers is necessary
Yeah basically^
20 and 5 most of them were lmg kills
Yeah it requires years of training to use flares and go up in the sky until you got flares again
there's more to it than that tho really
that's like basic shit.
Yeah incase your opponent isn’t flying just to crash into someone who killed him earlier
i play mortar only when i need to do weapon assignments
I don't use mortars. i have standards.
Everytime I hear the vtol I think a mission is going to fall out of the sky
Missile*
Oh man this game is tilting me today.
My friend said that BT was cursed and while he wasn't wrong, I wasn't expecting it to be so cursed to the point where it tilts me.
Breakthrough is cursed
I had a night where I did 5 straight matches on breakthrough, I was on defense on all of them. And they were all losses
Dying behind cover by bullets just piss me off
Just don’t die
Haven't you ever seen Wanted? Just hope the enemies don't curve their bullets
And we clutched up a game and saved a reinforcement token
We have all and at the last map
Battlefield
Wanted is a fun film
I want a sniper that does what they do
The one that goes through the donut
2042 better
2042 what
That is one of my favourite guilty pleasure movies
ID-Cards that are given to the Non-Patriated... AKA people who don't really belong to a nation
And thus the No-Pats were born
they don't belong to a nation they just are mercenaries that work for that nations despite not belonging to them
for some reason
Did DICE ever explain how the medic classes defibs will work? Like are the hold E defibs being replaced with the defibs from 2042?
It looks like you can still just hold E if you want
Which helps for the people who built that muscle memory from before
to be honest i have muscle memory of holding down RMB
ngl, I had a really bad mom joke in my head
But oh well lol
Saturday Night Drinking doesn't help my sense of humor lol
to be honest I kind of hate the no-pat lore in this game and kinda wish it didn't exist
Remember, Germany doesn't exist
I just got a good game on BT after a series of cursed sessions...
And almost there for 25K SCAR kills.
because the lore is basically "war happened so much that climate change became an issue and wrecked a lot of nations so a lot of people just don't have homes anymore, so they work as mercenaries working for the remaining nations in doing the exact same warfare that caused their nations to be destroyed and nothing is ever mentioned about this, they don't even seem to have a problem with this"
Bold of you to claim that the US military isn't one of the largest contributors to climate change
War did indeed happen a lot before 2042 i can assure you that
because it wouldn't make any fucking sense otherwise
war is not a very environmentally friendly thing and it's been going on since about 1914. Maybe before that.
I had a match where I went 88-3 using the AK-24, Sundance, Concussions and C5
One of the only times where Angels were dropping loadout crates fucking everywhere
I went like 93 and 13 with the avancys
Kind of sucks that the AK is kind of terrible compared to the SFAR
like why would they do that
who approved this.
Yeah true
"SexyAutism"
The kids that game were ass though
I wonder if Planet Girth and Flat Girther know each other
ah, the kind of names you run into on the internet
Dude the herbal peace charm is the best charm in the game hands down
I did run into a rather racist name. At least I assume the word is still considered racist today.
But the internet is telling me you can't be racist against white people to which I shall remind total silent on it because I don't understand how society moves
?
It had the name Whitey in it
It's all a ploy. The higher ups want us all to fight amongst ourselves so we don't go after the people that actually cause issues like major corporations
that sounds like the kind of thing that i'd call a rich white guy when he's whining about people not listening to his plans for cryptocurrency
i'm assuming the n word or something similar.
Yeah, growing up was kinda shit with this behavior but ya live with it
Anyways, Battlefield
baddyfield
Looking forward to a new shotgun
i'm not looking forward to a new shotgun.
They haven't even balanced the 12M.
They apparently just think that's fine.
Thanks DICE.
Really appreciate that.
Easy to use but doesn't really excel at much
it excels at getting kills for people that can't aim
I wouldn't count on a shotgun nerf anytime soon until at least more than 1% of the population start using them
I don't run into shotgun users too often, I mostly see AM40s, BSVMs and K30s
why the K30? there are probably better SMG's.
Fast gun, low recoil
It's fun to abuse people who use the k30 with the PBX.
make snow fall in breakaway rework
its antartica
Special Christmas event.
its technically a desert
yeah but any distance and it's damage potential evaporates even if you get headshots
all ice no snow
What?
because DICE think that SMG's shouldn't reward accuracy versus other weapon types
i will never not be annoyed at that statement.
Remember when people lost their shit over Santa boris
If they're using that logic why do LMG's do full damage to the head.
Because they're not using that logic. They just wanted an excuse to try nerfing the K30 in a way that mattered
am i the only one who wanted santa boris
because they couldn't do it otherwise.
I wanted that skin so bad
I don't because I don't use Boris lol
remember when portal was gonna have limited time cosmetic modes like the attack of the elves
Hopefully it's not too much to ask, I was hoping they would increase the level of destruction but they were just sandbags
I don't even have a single Mastery for that bear of a man
Me neither but I would have used it anyway
Give Sundance a bright red nose
Make them Rudolph, I'm sure they won't mind
do that pay2loose skin
the nose will shine so brightly it acts as a sniper glint with everyone being able to see you
Like a lis rocket
nyoom
Except it's Sundance coming at you armed with a smart shotgun





