battlefield-2042

[quaint vector]

[arctic grove]

did they do that again

[lusty temple]

What makes an fps game gritty

[arctic grove]

Heh

Funny thing you asked

I happen to know a couple things that make an FPS game gritty.

[lusty temple]

I think a huge factor is the voicelines

[arctic grove]

Voice acting
Game theme
game execution

[lusty temple]

Also is it just me or does the tornado looks scarier and scarier each update

Like the one in Renewal looks really fucking huge

And it just looks like an actual danger that I want to get away from

Like you know its bad when your specialist themselves start panicking when a tornado is coming their way

[upbeat sand]

Put a Detroit filter

[arctic grove]

The first thing you wanna do to make an fps game atmospheric is not have both factions look the exact same

[lusty temple]

All casual military tactical gear

Slight variations for different classes

[arctic grove]

Still just can’t understand what the thought process was to have an FPS game where you literally shoot yourself

[lusty temple]

Engineer has a tool belt, support has actual defibrillators on them, assault has more ammo on them, and recon has more camo on them

[arctic grove]

Besides functioning there’s really only a number of things I want the next BF to have on launch

That being the ordinary class system with the classic faction models

And boom, we’re good

[lusty temple]

The tornado and sandstorm levolution events were good calls

[arctic grove]

I want them to keep weather events

[lusty temple]

Fits into the setting and made the game feel more dangerous

Orbital map + tornado was just simply god tier

The tornado hitting the rocket and if you are there at that moment its pure chaos

[arctic grove]

I wish all the maps had at least a thunderstorm weather event excluding breakaway

[upbeat sand]

POV

Your playing orbital and the tornado doesn't go to C

[arctic grove]

Turns the maps darker and makes it feel a lot more dystopian

[lusty temple]

Bro I want the specialists to actually feel panicked and scared when fighting

Make them acknowledge that this isn't fun and games

[arctic grove]

They play lines when the storms come in and the team announcers warn em but that’s about it

[lusty temple]

That was a huge W

I love it when that happens

[arctic grove]

I just wanna actually feel like a Russian or American soldier

[lusty temple]

They tell the specialists to be more cautious but keep on fighting

[lunar finch]

Well i mean bf is an arcade game

[arctic grove]

2042s va debriefs would actually be motivating if I felt like I was individually being spoken to as an ordinary grunt

[lunar finch]

It is kinda fun and games

[upbeat sand]

Bf3 surviving an explosion: Dam I nearly felt that in my left nut"

[arctic grove]

BF3 quips are super funny

[lusty temple]

Bro they literally had the most cringy ass voicelines during the MVP callouts

[upbeat sand]

Voice actors must have no vocal cords from the yelling

[arctic grove]

Quips aren’t necessarily bad but it depends on how they’re used

If they’re gonna occasionally say something hilarious like BF3s guys I’d be fine with it

[upbeat sand]

I remember makay yelling like a mad man after shooting a hele out of the air

[lusty temple]

Wouldn't really hurt for the specialist character to have a voiceline of them screaming "HOLY SHIT" when they are near a levolution event

[lunar finch]

One mackay voiceline that makes me laugh is the "This is insane" reminds of me of this meme

[arctic grove]

The one I like the most is the one that plays from out of squad players on the US team, you’ll randomly hear the dude say “let me catch my breath” in the most hilarious way to me

[lunar finch]

Never heard that one

[upbeat sand]

Remember the afk sneeze

If that still in the game

[lusty temple]

Had too much Mcdonalds before coming in the battlefield

[arctic grove]

But I think 2042 would have at least been taken more seriously if we didn’t have the specialists here to make things worst

[lunar finch]

Im ngl 2042 is my fav bf ive played so far

[arctic grove]

Same it’s pretty fun and I like 128

Just wish it was a little more like the past ones in some ways

[lunar finch]

I love the movement mechanics

[upbeat sand]

128 is definitely more interactive v

[lunar finch]

I hope the movement mechanics in 2042 stay in the next bf

[upbeat sand]

More combat and more small stories happening

Where exodus is basically run, shoot, cap, run shoot, die

[lunar finch]

Yeah conquest games feel like whole nother world now

[arctic grove]

128 has a lot of problems but for being the first time it’s been deployed I kinda understand them

[lunar finch]

128 can work

[upbeat sand]

If shanghi had 128 what would happen

[lunar finch]

Thatd be fun ngl

[upbeat sand]

Until everyone is on the tower and collectively making the point call

Fall

And you look at the kill feed and over 80 people got crushed

[lunar finch]

Until someone calls in a wildcat at the top

[arctic grove]

I feel like they’ll scrap 128 since it causes performance issues but man, I hope it at least remains supported through timed game modes into the future, but I don’t know what complications that causes for map design and servers n what not

[lunar finch]

Can we praise the call in system in 2042 though

Like its amazing

[upbeat sand]

Ey at least they'll be an actual counter to little birds and lavs

[compact scarab]

What's the next operator

[arctic grove]

I use call in extensively

[sharp marten]

I hope they go to 200 players next game

[upbeat sand]

Unknown

[arctic grove]

People say the maps are running simulators… not if you use what was given to you

[lunar finch]

Jesus imagine that

[sharp marten]

💀

[lunar finch]

Yeah dice has done pretty well so far at not getting season 3 leaked😭

[arctic grove]

Temporyal for some reason just decided not to

[lunar finch]

We dont know anything so far... i think

[sharp marten]

I’m fucking pissed bro

I wana see season 3

[low cypress]

Waiting for the hype to build I’d assume

[arctic grove]

I will tell you all my prophecy

[compact scarab]

Isn't the next session net month

[arctic grove]

I had a dream where the S3 map is in Florida

[upbeat sand]

Something about not ruining the supprise or something

[lunar finch]

[low cypress]

hiii boins

[low cypress]

And I had a dream it was on the moon

[sharp marten]

No

[low cypress]

[arctic grove]

In 2042 Florida probably became part of the moon

Anything’s possible in Florida

[lunar finch]

Lmao

[upbeat sand]

A flooded London would be nice

[sharp marten]

In 2042 Ohio is the next super power

[arctic grove]

Please bring exodus film London into the game

[lunar finch]

Omg wait a 2042 map in Tampa...

[arctic grove]

I’ll be pissed if it isn’t

[low cypress]

can we get a battlefield on Europa 🤨

[slate meadow]

Hi cuties

[chilly jacinth]

like the moon Europa?

[low cypress]

Yes

[chilly jacinth]

why

[arctic grove]

Imagine you just look up and see it stuck in the side of the moon like a boomerang

[arctic grove]

Why don’t you want to go to Europa?

[lunar finch]

😭

[warped pulsar]

I'm curious how the newer maps were gonna look, before the changes to add better cover n stuff

[frail pasture]

What's the best method to get alot of kills to unlock scopes and mags for your guns? Rush in and kill as many as you can or do i just play for a while?

[silk surge]

Boris turrets, Boris turrets everywhere... and rangers.... This is a fucking nightmare.

[royal swan]

Coop

[royal swan]

Well the mission says 100 damage for Boris turret

[silk surge]

Oh I'm aware.

[frail pasture]

Isnt there a limit to how many bots i can kill until they dont count to progress anymore?

[silk surge]

Up to T3 iirc.

[royal swan]

All the attachments should be unlocked via coop

[stiff pollen]

you can get them all in coop

[frail pasture]

but dont they stop counting progress for everything after around 300 bot kills?

[blissful bolt]

You can get all attachments and vehicle upgrades as well as unlocking vault weapons in bot-mode.

[frail pasture]

But not for ever? Dont the bots stop adding progress after a couple hundred kills? Or am i just stupid?

[edgy oriole]

bots go up to 360 kills

which is all attachments

[limpid pond]

Yeah gooey is right bots in a private lobby only count towards mastery 12 which is 360. Bots in a mp match though will forever count towards weapon progress

[lunar finch]

^

[frail pasture]

Yeah but is it 360 kills on one weapon and the you can get 360 on another weapon or can you only get 360 kills on bots and then you can't get anymore bot kills ever?

[red notch]

Something to note is that portal bots don't count for anything, not even in MP matches

which just kinda sucks

[limpid pond]

Ignore me

[frail pasture]

Can I get 360 bot kills for every gun or just 360 bot kills in total?

[edgy oriole]

every gun.....

and specialist

[frail pasture]

Thank you 👍

[arctic grove]

[errant scarab]

Why

[lilac dust]

Prediction for season 3 trailer : Zoomed into a container, the camera slowly pans back out and reveals a container within a container within a container

[dark mural]

Flashback breakthrough still? What's going on? These guys on vacation?

[solid imp]

And the season name will be mandelbrot

[bleak wagon]

What's with all the aimbots in the game now. This the new way of gaming?

[arctic grove]

wut

[bleak wagon]

You don't experience some seriously unreal deaths not even peaking and they shoot you through the ceiling and killing you

[chilly jacinth]

ive met like 6 cheaters so far in my 700ish hours ingame

[dark mural]

Some people are just better.

[slender isle]

It’s another container ship

You know, the only map we can’t complain about with more containers in a rework is manifest lmao

[limpid pond]

Think imma hop on bf5 for a bit

[bronze yoke]

It should be like in the Battlefield 1 trailer where Daniel Edwards looks up and sees the giant blimp. Just have a shot that pans up to a giant flying container

[cosmic sequoia]

LMAO

[cosmic sequoia]

pans back down soldiers Mario jump-walking everywhere

[hearty flame]

damn yall see that article about 2042s original post launch vision?
multiple maps a month
fucking lol

[pine roost]

I wonder what changed that

Cause realistically they should have already known that the game would need months of refinement to get to a good state because of testing right?

Unless that plan changed shortly before launch because they realised they weren’t getting close to their vision for launch

[hearty flame]

well the article writes that sales and customer reaction caused them to scrap those plans
but really, multiple maps a month? lol. lmao even

[pine roost]

But then wouldn’t they also have most maps in their development stages to ensure that delivery could happen

Idek at this point

[hearty flame]

they didnt realise because they probably had internal scoring that said everything is just fine

iirc thats from the town hall a year ago

[pine roost]

But I don’t see how the reaction could have been a shock, because it’s clear through 5 minutes of playtime how broken it was initially

Well what’s done is done

Just patch some aircraft to give me a reason to play again

Won’t be pre ordering the next game but here’s to a better launch

[hearty flame]

my bet is itll take them a few months to rework vehicle numbers and balancing thanks to their specialist rework. so maybe s4 lol

[limpid pond]

so bf1 is stupidly popular again

[pine roost]

Might play it again then

Last time I played it was before exams, mostl dogfighting

[hearty flame]

just in time for end of support lol

[pine roost]

Since I’ve basically been isolating aim to a trainer and not focussed on infantry for a while to learn a different skill set for a bit of a change up

[deep scaffold]

air superiority is fun, u get a lot better on jets

[pine roost]

It’s alright

1v1’s have helped me more though

You don’t get some random guy coming in mid loop to assassinate you

[thorny violet]

How do the seasonal badges work... the one you need 1150 "battle pass points" for t1? I finish a round where I got 6 points (1 for xp and 5 for a mission) and it goes up by 19... I finish a round where I get 25 from missions and it goes up 7... I got 1 from xp and it doesnt go up... what the fuck lol

[pine roost]

But it is still fun

I’ve heard the badges are having a fair few issues right now

[low timber]

That’s why I’ve been keeping count on my phones notepad
Only need one point for T1.

[pine roost]

Who’s to say it’ll even work when you get it :/

[limpid pond]

Holy shit bf5 is having issues on xbox series x

I literally can't aim or shoot and it actually drops my primary so I only have my secondary somehow

[pine roost]

…

can’t hold back

Skill issue

[limpid pond]

Also character models are jjst green blobs

Now the game is frozen lmfaoooo

I just remembered how much I hate this game

[pine roost]

👍

[limpid pond]

Let's see if it'll load properly now I restarted it

[low timber]

Because in game progress is 1148/1150 so it only one point short, and I’ve been successful getting it updated by using portal.

[lilac dust]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1590123595061432320

Welp.....

Battlefield mobile is the 2042 killer

[low timber]

Is that the Mobile maps one?

[lilac dust]

yep

[low timber]

That moment when Mobile gets Op Metro before Portal

[ashen fjord]

dice give us sun on manifest

[deep scaffold]

anyone having problems launchin the game?

[thorny violet]

Wait so it is supposed to give me seasonal badge points based on my ones from xp and missions?

If it doesnt update after a round did it lose them or they pop in later M

Last round got 7 points and added 26 to badge. So confusing lol

[mental delta]

That moment when Mobile gets Op Metro while Portal will never*

[deep scaffold]

yea

im just gettin a black screen

unable to load

no messages

thx

yea thats prob it

[arctic grove]

[mental delta]

R u out of ur godamn mind ?

[arctic grove]

wdym

its the bf theme

is there a brain in your skull?

[thorn helm]

[mental delta]

We don't do that here

[arctic grove]

tfb

[deep scaffold]

thx diesel

[mental delta]

It's like BF4 servers, having fun is prohibited or you get banned

[arctic grove]

thats bf3

[mental delta]

BF4 admins are worse, I once heard a guy said he would ban a guy cause his name was Israel

[arctic grove]

cool

the one admin in bf3 switched my team to the losing one cause he didnt like my level

[mental delta]

Lol I wouldn't say it's cool to get banned for a name

[mental delta]

LMAO skill issue then sorry

[arctic grove]

whatever bro

[mental delta]

I was joking lad sorry

[arctic grove]

yeah i bet you a joker

[lilac dust]

Skill issue is a popular term of endearment in this chat

[mental delta]

[mental delta]

We try to

[arctic grove]

you are one person

[sharp marten]

Skill issue

[mental delta]

I am not the only one on this server

[lilac dust]

Incorrect. He is many crabs

[mental delta]

Hahaha skill issue yourself lad

[mental delta]

Again

[arctic grove]

yeah but dont pretend youre a we

[lilac dust]

You were too busy wondering about we you didn't stop to think about wumbo

[arctic grove]

i don't to remember saying any words to you bud

[lilac dust]

Well I definitely remember wumboing

[mental delta]

Why ?

[arctic grove]

pisses me off a lil

[mental delta]

And why is that so lad ?

[arctic grove]

he said the same thing to me yesterday after i was minding my business

shitty grammar lad

[arctic grove]

sorry im honest

but you both asked me so

why do people still think being honest justifies acting like a dick lol

[arctic grove]

what did you want me to say " sorry i had to take a shit thats why" what am i supposed to say when you ask why

[mental delta]

I am not an usual English speaker, I make some grammar mistakes sometimes you know

[mental delta]

Cause it's easier than being nice with other people I guess

[arctic grove]

he isnt using his head, thats why he said that

[arctic grove]

yeah i get that bad grammars alright but i dont know how you can communicate with me and not know what we means

[lilac dust]

mean*

[arctic grove]

no im refering to the word

[pine roost]

He’s referring to the server as a whole

[mental delta]

Lmao I guess so, I didn't get corrected about my grammar for a month on this server, he's just my daily reminder I don't talk English correctly I guess

[arctic grove]

well there are always firsts

[mental delta]

I mean the word "we" means, multiple "I", I get that lol

[silk surge]

Remember when we couldn't revive people next to walls? It feels like a lifetime ago.

[arctic grove]

no but i remember when the pkpbp and pp 29 were lasers

[silk surge]

Current Avancys is basically pre-nerf PKP

[arctic grove]

and what about pp?

[copper fulcrum]

PP is okay

[blissful bolt]

Remember when you couldn't aim after exiting vehicles

[next onyx]

Still can't to an extent

[arctic grove]

New Direct communications is kinda sus

after soo many years without maintanance they want to work on them? Also why wasnt bf v or hardline included in the maintanance???

[regal trail]

you guys exp another game freeze?

[next onyx]

No.

[slender isle]

Cause they have less players probably

Could be server maintenance due to high load

[arctic grove]

my pfp valid asf

[cosmic sequoia]

its so great that super hinds can just ram shit in the air and just destroy it

[arctic grove]

Plot Twist: You have a Skill Issue

[slender isle]

Yeah, it’s great, fuck the other air vehicles

[arctic grove]

i diagnosis

i diagnose it as a skill issue

But you got it

no

time for more 2042 in a bit

once you play it for a bit it gets really addicting getting kills

[ebon pilot]

hmmmm

[cosmic sequoia]

god remember when the bolt had the ability to just shoot rockets across the map?

amazing

I refuse to believe there is a QA team for this game

[hearty flame]

if there is one their suggestions come out the printer and into a shredder

https://tenor.com/view/resume-shred-gif-13992096

[arctic grove]

quiet

[remote kiln]

there's been maintenance, you just don't get informed about it lol

[arctic grove]

Ok fair but it must be a big maintanance for it to be announced

[limpid pond]

I feel so bad for new players that play titanfall

[ebon pilot]

don't you just love counter sniping someone with a sniper you pick up off the ground?

[fierce gull]

they really gotta remake hourglass

[tepid agate]

Fell bad for me playing MW2 as I haven't gone back to cod since MW3 😆 damn this pace is fast lol this ground war mode is like conquest in Battlefield

[slender isle]

Ground war is conquest without medics or good vehicles or good maps

[tepid agate]

I like how I can walk around the helicopter as it's in the air and jump out from any side 😆

Vehicle play is not as good as battlefield though.

I use score streaks instead of kill streaks because I am still adapting to the pace

[slender isle]

Oh yeah 100%, it’s honestly the only good thing I can say about the gamemode is that lmao

[tepid agate]

I'm even suprised it's not an instant spawn when you die lol tdm is but they make you wait like 4 seconds after you die. Short but suprised

[azure basalt]

i really wish 2042 had a AOW server browser so when the game live service end after season 4 i still can play

its hard to find a server that barely full

[tepid agate]

You can use portal lol

[azure basalt]

yeah sure portal with 1000000% HC server

nah man

[tepid agate]

Maybe they will lower the player amount before the game can start so they can fill it with more bots

[tall orbit]

Modern Warfare II crossed the $1 billion mark in sales in just 10 days, safe to say Dice took a big fat L for this year's competition

[azure basalt]

maybe

[tepid agate]

I downloaded it yesterday. Like every launch game has its issues but the gameplay and content way surpasses what 2042 deliverd. The hype is more realistic in this one

[azure basalt]

battlefield can't never beat cod even how good next game is because the game is signifcantly different

[tall orbit]

The thing is Infinity Ward patches bugs faster than Dice ever could

It's astounding

[tepid agate]

Yeah cod has always been more popular but if you are to compare MW2 with 2042 the contrast will be huge as one revived much more backlash than the other

[azure basalt]

both are still not a good game

MWII doesn't have Hardcore mode on launch?

so many missing features

[tepid agate]

I just okay ground war at the moment

Mate 2042 didn't even have a scoreboard 😆

[azure basalt]

yeah

both is the same

[tall orbit]

2042 had like, 4 years in development

[tepid agate]

Plus they are still reworking their maps a year after launch it's too far behind where it should have been

[tall orbit]

I don't know how much for MWII tbh

Since it's a different team

[sharp marten]

So tempy found new map references

[tepid agate]

I thought bfV got cut to work on 2042

[sharp marten]

OPERATION METRO BABY

[tall orbit]

This could also be EA's fault switching ideas mid development

[azure basalt]

its 2 years

[azure basalt]

this also

[tall orbit]

DICE had pretty much fell off after BFV and the mass quit by their employees

[tepid agate]

Wonder how long it will live when live service ends. Bfv and bf1 are still more popular without a live service

[tall orbit]

I think it's a better idea if Dice revisits those two games

They can be expanded

[sharp marten]

Ew no

[azure basalt]

yeah both have a server browser that is why the game still alive

[sharp marten]

Ww1 and ww2 are nasty

[tepid agate]

They need a way to make more money they will work towards something new

[azure basalt]

imagine 2042 without server browser

[tall orbit]

BFV with Eastern Front though

[azure basalt]

can't find a good server with full player

[sharp marten]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

[tepid agate]

I had troubles yesterday too would be like 9 of us waiting for more players in the standard conquest mode

[tall orbit]

2042 doesn't seem like it'll make a great come back tbh

Unless if EA slaves DICE into developing it forever

[tepid agate]

I agree but I'm not mad at it either I have already played it enough to S80. I took my L and learnt my lesson

[next onyx]

If EA gives DICE enough time to develop the next game things wouldn't be so bad.

But it really depends if they give a damn.

[sharp marten]

Hi way

[tepid agate]

Let's see if they announce specialists will stay in the next title 😆 (I highly doubt)

[next onyx]

Hey there Preston.

We know that in leu of feedback specialists will not be coming back.

Personally I'm glad they tried something different. Specialists need further balancing but they were fun.

[tepid agate]

It was a fun idea and experiement but it wasn't what the masses wanted. Good to hear they won't be coming back though and it can come back to a Battlefield game

[next onyx]

What I kinda did like about specialists is that they remind me of archtypes.

Cut sub classes from bf5.

[tepid agate]

They are like elite in bf1 but every character is an elite. Was good to have them as pickup items bot every player as one

[next onyx]

Basically in bf5 imagine if your recon had a suppressed SMG and a garotte wire for interrogations.

And imagine if it were Paik's role.

Bf5 elites were the best.

[tepid agate]

I like the Japanese running man animation after the round.

[next onyx]

Ojh yeah.

The pilot.

He was cool.

[tepid agate]

I recently got the general uniforms for the Germans. I like running around in them

[lunar finch]

This map is so beautiful but i cant fathom why theyd make a map this fucking massive

[arctic grove]

Battle Royale mode

[tepid agate]

But now bfV is going to be my "once a week game" for weekly missions. I'm going to continue with MW2. Got to level 15 yesterday so I'm eager to keep going.

[lunar finch]

Maps so massive u could probably make an open world single player game out of it

[next onyx]

Something something plus they thought 128p would be more spread out.

[tall orbit]

I was kinda hoping I can get 2042 on a discount or such since I already have 1 and 5

[tepid agate]

They thought bigger means better

[arctic grove]

Make a skyrim mod out of that map

[tall orbit]

What even is 128p

[sharp marten]

128 player

[tall orbit]

Oh

[lunar finch]

Sometimes it does

[next onyx]

These maps were not designed well.

There's no way you could defend these maps at all.

[tepid agate]

Hamada on bfV was already too big for 64 players.

So 2042 decide to double the player count to 128, and make a snow map 4x bigger than Hamada lol

[next onyx]

God if you thought Hamada was bad you should see Al sundan.

Al sundan makes Hamada look like a good map.

[tepid agate]

Al Sudan is too open

Better version than hourglass lol

[next onyx]

Yeah and hour glass makes Al sundan look good.

[lunar finch]

128 could honestly be better than 64 if we just had better map design

[tepid agate]

The green field tank map in bfV is open but I like that one

[next onyx]

It's evident they can make good maps with 128p.

But because they were so poor at launch.

I doubt they want to do it again.

Nvm the input delay you get on 128p.

[tepid agate]

They are still fixing them a year after launch

Bloody hell feels crazy 1 year already

Still hardly any weapons compared to previous titles but man

[next onyx]

It's a shame they didn't have enough time to work on the game.

[tall orbit]

Imagine if it releases this December instead of last year's

[quiet shell]

BR Mode

[tepid agate]

Would still get backlash probably on the weapon count it's too low

But it's in much better condition than launch

[tall orbit]

Battle Royale?

Peak cringe

[next onyx]

I would rather a game they get set up from the start instead of having to fix it from the get go.

But it's the state of the industry sadly.

[tepid agate]

They have like 4 pistols or 4 lmgs (3 if you take away the bf3 one)

[quiet shell]

As far as I know Zampella hasn't said anything about going back from 128

[next onyx]

Publisher releases gets the devs to release an unfinished product and everyone suffers.

[quiet shell]

I doubt they'd be willing to downgrade over that

[tepid agate]

It's like pay early so we can spend the season fixing it for you

[next onyx]

128p only works if the game is made for it.

This game is not made for it.

[quiet shell]

It's probably more worth it for them to fix and improve the engine for 128p

[next onyx]

The input lag on 128p is fucking horrendous.

Playing flashback conquest made me realise how bad it was.

[quiet shell]

Yeah in 2042, but who's to say it won't be better in the next BF game

[next onyx]

Fucked if I know.

[tall orbit]

Will there even be a next BF game

💀

[next onyx]

It gets EA money.

[tall orbit]

EA the franchise killer

[next onyx]

Than again they don't understand why it wasn't doing well.

[tepid agate]

It can't be worse than the 2042 launch I'm sure

[arctic grove]

Hamada 128 could work tbh

[tepid agate]

Yeah but not 64 lol

[arctic grove]

faxts

[next onyx]

Rushes product out.
Game gets hated and meme'd on.
"Where did I go wrong?"

[arctic grove]

i hated Hamada tbh

[tepid agate]

Same too open and big for the player count

[arctic grove]

only hamada breakthrough was good.

[tepid agate]

Those matches lasted like an hour lol

[next onyx]

I somehow got a hundred kill game on twisted steel.

Which is something you don't see at all.

And twisted steel is slow as hell.

[hearty flame]

oh god hamada on launch was terrible for me
9/10 times i got it was on conquest assault

[tepid agate]

I like a lot of the bfV maps to be fair

[quiet shell]

I feel like EA know's the next Battlefield game they need to just take their hands off it and only smile and nod at every progress meeting

[tepid agate]

Remember bombers can start the round like 3 seconds early so when you spawned you got bombarded to hell lol

[hearty flame]

i dont think EA was to blame for 2042. they seem rather off hands for their bigger studios

[next onyx]

I've been told by a dev that they wanted it released by holiday 2021.

[tall orbit]

DICE got messed up after BFV, the majority of all experienced employees had left

[hearty flame]

ah yes
spawn, sprint 3 seconds, lose 3/4s of your team to enemy bombers
and then there was a bug with the german one that made their bomb upgrade stronger than what it was supposed to

[tepid agate]

Bombers were super op at launch

[hearty flame]

planes were super op until the pacific

[tepid agate]

2042 launch hovercraft laughs in the face of bfV launch bombers

[hearty flame]

then everyone and their mother was fightin back with that launcher thing

then pilots got big sad and dice had to nerf it

[next onyx]

Ju88A was even more busted than the hovercrafts.

[solid imp]

I miss wall climbing orbital 🙂

[next onyx]

I remember launch pacific planes. And the fliegerfaust.

[hearty flame]

can the ju88 crash into other vehicles, kill them, and come out unscathed lol

[tepid agate]

Hovercrafts threw physics out the window

[next onyx]

Both sides hated how easy it was to use each thing.

[hearty flame]

when the flieger came out thats all i did for days
just flieging planes outta the sky

[next onyx]

Then they start high alting and stuka bombing before you know it they're gone.

[hearty flame]

hey after how strong planes have been all of Vs lifespan until that point the flieger deserved to be strong

[tepid agate]

Well, I left cod to come to the Battlefield since BF4. I held onto to 2042 as long as I could but I'm back to cod😄 hopefully the next battlefield title is more like a battlfied game then I'll leave cod again

[next onyx]

Doesn't matter right now anyways since the flieger is just as powerful so people in the corsair 1c and a6m5 just have to snipe with rockets and be invincible.

[hearty flame]

if planes can outjoust AA guns then you know somethings wrong

[next onyx]

The bombers were for close range and the rocket fighters were for long range.

The rocket fighters are more powerful than the bombers.

I will admit it was a little easy to dislodge people on the AA but that's just that sadly.

[tepid agate]

Even battlefield friends have stopped posting videos on 2042 that's sad 😦

[hearty flame]

just saw that there was an article today about dices original 2042 post launch plans
multiple maps a month

lol
lmao even

[next onyx]

Like I keep on saying.

[tepid agate]

Maybe they want the community to adapt to 1 map a season.

[next onyx]

If they were given enough time to develop this game they would most likely be able to do it.

[hearty flame]

lol imagine arguing for less content

[tepid agate]

Revolutionising gaming

[tiny imp]

add 3 rd person in BF 2042. like MW2. Should be fun...maybe

[hearty flame]

if they had the time the community at large still wouldve hated it
because that extra time wouldnt include player feedback

[tepid agate]

You think it was really forced out early for Christmas sales? I know they never wanted to relasysales figures but I bet they sold a ton for 2042 at launch

[next onyx]

From a business perspective it makes sense to release your game close to christmas.

[hearty flame]

i dont think it sold well. even EA didnt want to disclose numbers

[tepid agate]

I think they didn't want to because it fall off so far from what was sold

[solid imp]

🤢

[tepid agate]

There's a bug when you get revived you play in third person.

[tiny imp]

ye alright

[hearty flame]

which means it didnt sell well

[tepid agate]

I shared a video of it in my twitter before

[slender isle]

That would actually be pretty fun

[tepid agate]

No it probably did the hype was so real but after seeing how many active players there were it would have been embarrassing how it fell off so fast

[hearty flame]

3rd person would be interesting. if vehicles can get it why cant infantry lol

[tiny imp]

exactly

[solid imp]

Because you'll have people camping behind walls waiting to see enemies

[hearty flame]

I mean if it did then EA probably wouldve been shouting it from the rooftops to try to get some positive pr during launch
but they didnt and avoided answering it during that investor call

[tepid agate]

2042 3rd person https://twitter.com/DanielWootton6/status/1548316092392964096?t=XA7bTa5-odZ5R4MbUwPffw&s=19

[slender isle]

Yeah but imagine seeing your character move with bfV animations

[tepid agate]

I dunno I just think they did because the hype was so good

[hearty flame]

cant remember which game did this but they did a 3rd person view where if the "head" couldnt see around a corner then nobody would appear until you "turned" the corner

[hearty flame]

i think all we know if that Tom said 4million sales like a week or 2 after launch

[tepid agate]

I wish I could give me 2.4k boins to someone who wants 2042 skins I have no interest to use them lol saving for nothing

[copper rock]

IS COD 2 better compared to 2042?

[tepid agate]

Launches? Far superior

[solid imp]

I mean it would look cool and all but we can't ask for "immersion" at the same time as asking for an out of body experience

[hearty flame]

kinda unfair comparing a ps2 game to a ps4/5 game

[copper rock]

Modern Warfare 2

[hearty flame]

so can we get rid of 3rd person for vehicles then? id be down for it

[solid imp]

I wouldn't mind that

If

[hearty flame]

ya just riffin on ya. as far as launch goes its better than 2042s ya

[solid imp]

There were free cam with better visibility

[hearty flame]

what do you mean?

[solid imp]

Maybe I don't fly enough (or at all lol) but thought free cam wasn't much of a thing for pilots?

[tepid agate]

On Steam alon 2042 all time peak was 100k. Mw2 is at 250k

[hearty flame]

free cam should definitely be a thing for pilots ya

[lunar finch]

I am going to find the address of every single Hannibal player and strangle them

[tepid agate]

That map shape looks like a shoe insole 😆

[hearty flame]

makes sense. 2042 is like something id find stuck to the bottom of my shoe too

[solid imp]

Just wait for classes. And jets to their own category. It will get worse. Mind you jets should be in their own category. But vehicle balance will be shortly changing a lot fundamentally.

[slender isle]

If you’re looking for a twitchy CoD like shooter mw2 is better. If you’re looking for battlefield, 2042 is better

[lunar finch]

It cant get worse... right... right

[tepid agate]

Did you ever try mw2? Feels wierd getting back into it

[hearty flame]

Id bet on the vehicles getting recategorized and rebalanced months after the class change with dices current work pace

[copper rock]

Fanboy alert

[slender isle]

There’s gonna be less launchers once the class change comes so tanks will get better

[tepid agate]

2042 is just 2042 it's shouldn't be classes a battlefield game 😄

[lunar finch]

Thank you🙏

[hearty flame]

not as sweaty as i used to be but i slipped in decently. its been a long while since i played a cod

[tepid agate]

Don't trigger the fans

[copper rock]

I've enjoyed both, but im still not convinced 2042 is ahead of schedule

[tepid agate]

Never even knew that had this conquest like game mode lol always though of it as team death matches

[slender isle]

What? I’m just saying ground war isn’t as good as any 2042 conquest match. If you like to kill people and use kill streaks and don’t play vehicles then COD is for you. If you like playing a medic, vehicles, heli/jet pilot, or as a recon, 2042 is where you find that

[tepid agate]

Mate we all took the L on that lie that's so long ago

[hearty flame]

dominations been around for a loooong while

[tepid agate]

Oh yeah I used to do that sometimes. I'm always doing ground war

[hearty flame]

i expect this to one of many memes that follows the next bf

[tepid agate]

As a battlfied fan, better to ease into the game doing that

[copper rock]

haha it hasn't even been a year

[tepid agate]

A year this month

[solid imp]

Almost exactly a year, just a couple weeks short

[copper rock]

[hearty flame]

ya 2042 will have its first birthday this month

happy year 1 lol

[tepid agate]

They have 2 more seasons to bring in naval combat

[copper rock]

Dont forget new glitches

[slender isle]

2 days right? The 12th

[tepid agate]

If the 2042 lifecycle has no naval combat what the hell happened to boats in the year 2042

[hearty flame]

boats have been datamined but who knows when theyll show

[hearty flame]

thats 4 days lol

[slender isle]

I mean they’re there

[tepid agate]

They will probably add a new snow map. All these snow skins recently

[slender isle]

Oh it’s close to the 10th for me atm

[copper rock]

Sea levels dropped? People never learned to swim in the future?

[tepid agate]

Silly players on my team before running around with snow skins in the desert

[hearty flame]

boats are a government conspiracy

[slender isle]

Like they have the tech for boats in engine as we can see in noshar canal

[tepid agate]

Maybe

[copper rock]

They did learn to ride tornados though so theres that

[slender isle]

The exodus (the boat the specialists are on) is literally a boat

[tepid agate]

Did all Battlefield before BF4 also have naval combat?

[hearty flame]

think almost all did

not sure about 2142

[slender isle]

I don’t think 2142 did unless I’m remembering wrong

[tepid agate]

"get to cover it'll tear us to pieces!" Hahahaha yeah sure

[next onyx]

1942 had submarines.

[slender isle]

Bc2 and BC didn’t either

[hearty flame]

bc2 did though? the pt boats

think 1 had them too

[tepid agate]

Wow that's interesting never played with subs in a multiplayer game before

[slender isle]

Did it? Fuck I don’t think I ever actually used them

Mind you I haven’t played since like 2015

[lilac dust]

Man just looking at the battlefield V dlc maps. They look so beautiful with the absence of containers 🥲

[hearty flame]

it had a nade launcher on the bow iirc

[tepid agate]

Sandbags and containers are the future

[copper fulcrum]

1942's subs were great, rarely used them though

There was a fun jet in 1942 that I enjoyed

[tepid agate]

If naval combat never goes into 2042 I want to hear what happened more in the story why boat wars never happens

[hearty flame]

the 262?

[hearty flame]

i imagine dice will make boats outta shipping containers next

[copper fulcrum]

229

[next onyx]

Just give me carrier assault.

[tepid agate]

🤣💀

[next onyx]

OH.

[hearty flame]

the germans had a bunch of neat jet projects

that, the 262, the salamander

[copper fulcrum]

Literally just flew around the map, zipping around and firing rockets to destroy any vehicle

[hearty flame]

their jet fuel was so corrosive or something crash landings could spill it onto the pilots and kill them

[next onyx]

HO 229.

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/HO-229

That shit is straight from the secret weapons of ww2 pack.

[copper fulcrum]

I'm gonna take you back to the past

[solid imp]

This was good stuff

[next onyx]

Ironically it wasn't even made as a stealth bomber it was more to eliminate the drag.

Yet it had some protection versus radar due to this design.

[slender isle]

There are boats in portal so I don’t see why they wouldn’t add them

[copper fulcrum]

Dude it fired rockets, it didn't drop bombs

[next onyx]

I said stealth bomber without thinking.

[tepid agate]

You mean portal as in from older Battlefield games?

[copper fulcrum]

Gotcha

[next onyx]

Stealth fighter you could say.

[copper fulcrum]

By the way Battlecraft was rather easy to use

[next onyx]

But not even as a stealth fighter it was just a fighter.

[slender isle]

Yeah, bf3 noshar canals has lil boat boys to get from the US spawn. So seeing as they’ll probably add portal vehicles to AOW we might get a naval map or 2

[next onyx]

My favourite part about the ME 262 was the fact that it was so fast and the guns weren't developed enough it couldn't really be used effectively at the start.

And by the gun part I mean they weren't accurate enough to use at a range that was viable.

[tepid agate]

I hope they don't keep just copy and pasting to AOW to go down as "new content" but actually make something 2042

[hearty flame]

with how much new content 2042 gets a season itll be lucky to have a kiddy pool on 1 map for boats

[hearty flame]

and it had no landing gear too i think
just launched off a trolley

[azure basalt]

i have tried the BFMobile and man the maps have more cover than 2042

[tepid agate]

Or maybe we are looking at the wrong and they see hovercrafts are the 2042 naval combat

[azure basalt]

but the microtransaction succcc

imagine you have to lvlup the gun/gadget you want to unlocked but you have to bought it with ingame currency

[slender isle]

I mean, just extend out the playable area for Kaleidoscope and orbital and you have places for boats

[tepid agate]

What was the first map rework I'm just trying to think back

[hearty flame]

well that seals the deal for me
aint trying bf mobile then

[tepid agate]

Was it kaleidoscope

[slender isle]

Yeah

[tepid agate]

Am man that's sad it's like no once cares about it anymore

[next onyx]

I just wish I could play more of the orbital rework but it's such an annoyance trying to get a game on it.

[hearty flame]

youre assuming dice has the idea, skill, and map allowance for that lol
the maps were already pushed to the limit and not sure they can stretch it

[next onyx]

Cause the map should of been decent at the start.

Really.

[azure basalt]

at least the map is good though

[next onyx]

Good work on dice for making it better.

But it shouldn't have to be reworked on.

[hearty flame]

Ill probably play on an emulator to stomp people with the basic kit then lol

[next onyx]

I sound like an asshole but really.

[tepid agate]

Well exposure was there best map I don't know they just keeping busy

[azure basalt]

i think if they don't remake/rework the map we could have 2 new maps finger crossed

[slender isle]

I meant more in extend the playable area to the heli playable area but for boats, so they’re still there. Could even see discarded get a river or something that’d be funn

[next onyx]

Breakaway and hourglass will certainly be the last maps we'll be getting done.

I bet Manifest and discarded are on its way for season 3.

[azure basalt]

yeah it more fun to stomp people, im using a phone and its enjoyable tho

[tepid agate]

Maybe 2042 will get a Megaladon come through the ice or swim under the ice on breakaway

[azure basalt]

man i really want to know how they rework these map

imagine more cover in hourglass and breakaway

[next onyx]

Cover won't be enoughl.

[azure basalt]

[hearty flame]

we'll know in like 2 weeks
s3 is on like nov 20s no?

[next onyx]

The maps need a complete revamp.

Err its week 11 right now?

[azure basalt]

i mean have you tried the new layout for breakthrough on orbital?

its really good

[next onyx]

I have.

[tepid agate]

I hope the designers still have their jobs they didn't have enough time

[slender isle]

Week and a half

22nd

[next onyx]

I've played 64p orbital more than 128p orbtial.

[slender isle]

I think?

[slender isle]

It’s cause stranded is the only map we fucking play on master of arms

It’s so annoying

[hearty flame]

its 2 weeks from now here, you and your weird times

[next onyx]

HEY DO YOU WANT ORBITAL? TOO BAD.

PLAY PORTAL FOR ORBITAL.

Xp farms.
Regular servers never filling up.

[tepid agate]

When exposure dropped it was like 24hour exposure they should do it for orbital

[lilac dust]

It would be very interesting to hear particularly because boat mastery badges are in the game files. Hope it doesn't get canned like some of the supposed weather events did

[slender isle]

True that

[next onyx]

I don't understand why they don't just do that.

For one week just 24/7 of the reworked map.

No one cares for the other maps other than the reworked one.

[azure basalt]

seriously though dice should just use the standard playercount 64 than 128

pleaseee

[tepid agate]

What weather events got canned?

[azure basalt]

the map is way better

[next onyx]

RHIB mastery.

[hearty flame]

because dice is a small indie company with no significant support

[next onyx]

If they were an indie company they'd actually be able to do what they want.

[hearty flame]

well they did and we got 2042

[next onyx]

They were pushed by EA to rush it.

[slender isle]

No for the love of god, in this game the 64p layouts suck so bad

[lilac dust]

Well there was a dev presentation behind closed doors before the game launched showing off fire tornadoes, tsunamis, earthquakes e.c.t but we've seen no indication that they will make it to the game yet

[slender isle]

Where’d you hear that?

[hearty flame]

I am gonna assume 2042 was like all other ea big flops until otherwise told
ea gave dice the rope and dice hung themselves with it

[lilac dust]

Tom Henderson

[slender isle]

HAHAHAHAHAH

As if he’s that reliable

[tepid agate]

False advertising

[azure basalt]

yeah i mean for the next battlefield

[lilac dust]

Name one time he's been wrong

[azure basalt]

the map already design for 128

for 2042

[slender isle]

Hmmm, probably the skeleton crew, battle Royale, 18 month development time etc etc

[next onyx]

Tom henderson is a leaker, It's not a matter that he's wrong or not but it's the matter that yoau cannot actually verify the infromation.

[hearty flame]

i mean has there been any proof hes been wrong about those either?

[tepid agate]

I'm sure he said something before the game launched like the team have taken Battlefield to the next level

[shell ermine]

Skeleton crew is legit

[tepid agate]

In what way

[shell ermine]

That's just how game dev works

[slender isle]

The skeleton crew and the battle Royale have been disproven by the devs like 10x over

[hearty flame]

i mean the best way to verify that is to wait for the leaked stuff to show
it has a few times for him no?

[next onyx]

I don't think game dev works like that.

[hearty flame]

ah yes, trust what the devs say
lol
lmao

[slender isle]

You’re gonna trust someone who “leaks” info over the actual devs working on the game?

[lilac dust]

Also, why would he just make up a bunch of weather events that were planned lol seems a bit far fetched to do that just for the sake of it

[shell ermine]

The majority of the team moves on to the next project once the current one is out the door

[hearty flame]

Im not gonna trust someone who has a vested interest in seeing their game not die and not lose their job

[next onyx]

The stuff that was showed to be proven yes that is correct but what's to say all the other things he says is fact.

[hearty flame]

trust us fam

[slender isle]

Well seeing as we’ve still got 6-8 months worth of the game left that’d be a bit weird

[hearty flame]

pffft ya

[hearty flame]

ya just noting the best way to judge a leaker is to wait for the leaks to materialize and toms been right a few times

[next onyx]

I know this game had a short dev time but I'm not gonna rely on henderson for information about that.

[azure basalt]

really wish they have a dev like activition where theres still a lot of dev doing the live service and others do the next battlefield

[next onyx]

I know that.

[lilac dust]

I mean yeah but that sounds like something he was told by an inside dev or read from one of the devs, not his opinion

[next onyx]

But believing everything he says? That's just dumb.

[azure basalt]

so we can still have a game with live service until the next game release

[shell ermine]

DICE Sweden has 700 devs, if even 100 were still on 2042 that's a skeleton crew

[hearty flame]

nah im betting s1 is end of content support and its just bug fixes until next bf

[next onyx]

We don't know how many devs are working on this game overall.

[slender isle]

Yeah, but activision has 4 studios working on 1 game each with each studio then working on the live service ect of each respective game

[tepid agate]

So I guess he can't be wrong then because everything he says can be defended by "it's not his opinion"

[slender isle]

DICE is probably smaller than just 1 of those studios

Seeing as EA probably has more people working on fifa than battlefield m

[lilac dust]

Well it's information. Of course the game didn't turn out to be next level, but this is just information he found from devs saying cool things and what not.

[slender isle]

Could’ve literally just been concept art or ideas thrown around the office

[shell ermine]

My point is in game development ots inefficient and a waste of resources to keep a significant team working on support for a game after its been released. Development doesn't stop, people rotate onto new projects.

DICE is not all hands on deck for 2042, I'd be very surprised and very worried for their next title if more than 20% of their devs at most were still working on 2042 support

[next onyx]

I've had a dev tell me this game was rushed but you didn't need to know that based off the launch.

[hearty flame]

ya i think ea priorities fifa (whatever its gonna be called now) over other frostbite games because a lot of tech support responds to them first over other games or something

[azure basalt]

battlefield also have have a plenty studio like ripple ffect DICE Sweden and the new studio that i forget

[hearty flame]

but it makes a whole lot more money than other games too

[tepid agate]

Remember in the financial conference call thing they put bfV in it but not 2042? When is the next earnings call I wonder if they add 2042 this time

[hearty flame]

so it makes sense

[slender isle]

I mean we have cool tornadoes atm that change depending on what ground type they’re over. Like water, mud, dust, sand etc

[next onyx]

I don't think any of us who hasn't been in the field truly understand how game dev works.

I would go and learn it myself if I could.

[tepid agate]

Tornado is cool but make it more dangerous than a transport device

[copper fulcrum]

More cool as a transport device than a big kill zone that moves across the map

[slender isle]

Dice Sweden is DICE main office. The new studio has just been made, and then ripple works on portal. So if you think ripple and DICE Sweden probably have the same amount of employees as infinity ward

[next onyx]

All I know is that it's usually more complicated than just what we know.

[slender isle]

It’s scarier for a tank player than anyone else

[copper fulcrum]

It's a great way to get into a Condor

[next onyx]

It's a good elevator at the start of the match if it spawns by you.

[tepid agate]

Who gets rocket launchers when the lock-in system comes into play? Which specialists?

[copper fulcrum]

Engineers

[slender isle]

Liz, Boris, Crawford

[tepid agate]

C5 also?

[slender isle]

Idk what they’re gonna do with Liz but yeah

[slender isle]

Assault and recon get c5

[tepid agate]

Ok

[hearty flame]

liz probably gets no launcher

so no aa either

i suppose her launcher can do both though

[tepid agate]

Wonder if a javelin launch will ever come to 2042

[next onyx]

Lis still will be unable to use other launchers.

[slender isle]

Yes it will be coming with the class rework

We’re getting claymores, tracer dart, and those weird recon playable movement sensors

[tepid agate]

Makes you wonder how much new content we could have got in the game if they never spent their season pass adding what should have already been in the game

[hearty flame]

not much more id bet

something between what it is now and what V had

[tepid agate]

Yeah little content at launch than add what should be there already during the season

There are probably more pistols and shotguns in BF4 than all 2042 weapons combined

[copper fulcrum]

T-UGS

[slender isle]

That’s the one

[hearty flame]

pretty safe bet

[slender isle]

36 weapons in AOW rn so you can count if you’d like

[tepid agate]

Are you including older Battlefield guns or just 2042 guns

Not sure how to find the BF4 guns count

[azure basalt]

iirc 2042 is the only bf game that you can change the breakthrough map layout,

because they rework the map

[slender isle]

If you’re going off that then half of bf4 guns don’t count lmao

Cause I’m including vault weapons

[tepid agate]

Okay I just need a way to count BF4 guns can't find a source 😆

[arctic grove]

do bf3 and bf4 guns have the same gunplay though?

[slender isle]

Got to the bf wiki

[azure basalt]

same animation too

[arctic grove]

for instance if we compare bf1 and bfvs 1911 or selbstlader 1916 i would still consider the 1911 and selbstlader new in BFV if it came with new gunplay that fit the new title

[slender isle]

Bf4 weapons are literally reskins, the only instance that isn’t is the m16a3 due to it being burst

The vault weapons play close to 2042 than the games they come from but it’s more of a mix

There’s less of an accuracy penalty and more recoil on the vault weapons

[azure basalt]

but if you put vault weapon into 2042, the vault weapon feels different idk why

[arctic grove]

well im asking since i think its okay to not consider vault weapons part of 2042s gun count if theyre just rehashed directly as they were from Portal, i dont think we should apply the logic to bf4s gun count if its true that the guns that came from BF3 were tuned to support BF4s gunplay

[tepid agate]

Ah 19 pistols and 11 shotguns in BF4 so 2042 wins it lol

2042 has 36 weapons
Bf4 has 30 (shotguns and pistols)

[errant scarab]

putting portal weapons in AOW is the worst idea

[arctic grove]

like i mean yeah you can literally count them as part of AOWs gun count but they just play exactly as they did in portal instead of being tuned differently

[hearty flame]

its more content for no work
at least that was the idea

[errant scarab]

unlock portal weapon in AOW and it already has all the accessories unlocked that nonsense lol

[slender isle]

They play different

There’s (like I’ve said) less accuracy penalty when moving and shooting, with more visual recoil on the weapons

[arctic grove]

i mean more in line with the 2042 guns

[slender isle]

I personally think the m60, GOL magnum, p90, and the m16a3 all fit in pretty well

Other than the no mag options on ‘em

[arctic grove]

they probably do i mainly mean their gunplay

[slender isle]

Yeah, the m16 has the same kind of handling as the m5a3. M60 is closer to ppk, but is like a mix with the lcmg and ppk. P90 has the same as mp9, gol just doesn’t have a 1 hit range anymore

[arctic grove]

hm okok i see

at the end of the day though i still really do want to see them come up with something new

[slender isle]

The only guns that don’t actually fit this is the Acwr and aks74u. They’re stupidly inaccurate

[arctic grove]

dont want them to bandage this shit with guns that technically were here since launch just you can use them in AOW this time guys

[slender isle]

Oh yeah, the pistols work fine, the m1911 is just underpowered lmao

[slender isle]

That’s fair, who knows, if there’s a second year we might get double the new guns a season

[tepid agate]

Okay if I compare all (why I do this) BF4 😆

Submachine: 29
Pistol: 19
Assualt: 17
Sniper: 15
Lmg: 13
Shotgun: 11
Dmr: 8

Total: 112 weapons 😆

Talk about how spoiled we used to be able 2 more seasons left with 2042 and 36 weapons

[slender isle]

Do it with bf1 weapons (don’t count the variations)

[tepid agate]

My math is bad

[arctic grove]

your point about the reworks being a sign for y2 is pretty convincing, i mean i guess there is a dissenting argument somewhere but then again to rework the games maps instead of spending time just adding like 2 new ones is a bit weird

[slender isle]

Exactly my point. Why rework major game mechanics and maps just to abandon it when everything’s all done

[errant scarab]

add global chat

[azure basalt]

the only vault weapon i like is the snipers

but i hope they add shotgun or dmr too

[slender isle]

Dude, try the Rex, m60 and m16

They’re close to being the best in their categories

[azure basalt]

the dragonov or ebr is nice

[azure basalt]

i tried all of those already t1 except the rex

the rex is amazing

[arctic grove]

ima go get the rest of em to try them out

[azure basalt]

all vault weapon they add i already got t1 on it expect the rex and 1911

[slender isle]

Fair enough, was this pre or post buff?

[azure basalt]

pre

[slender isle]

Try them again

They’ve changed

Like noticeably

[azure basalt]

tbh the AKS is sooo bad im so frustrated using that

[azure basalt]

yea i might try it later

[slender isle]

Oh same, I gave up. Acwr ain’t bad <25m

But after that my bullets feel like bf1

[azure basalt]

yeah acwr i still enjoyed that

p90 is also beast

[arctic grove]

yea acwr in some distances is pretty good it feels like it has no recoil

[azure basalt]

yeah

[arctic grove]

i think what they should do unless they havent already is with the vault guns take the bloom out for their aow versions perhaps

[slender isle]

But it shoots like around people sometimes

[slender isle]

This^

[azure basalt]

also don't use the extended barrel its just going to hurt your recoil and no different on damage range , i tested it

[arctic grove]

and maybe reduce the vrec but idk

[arctic grove]

i heard extended screws with recoil control

[azure basalt]

yeah

[arctic grove]

i might replace it for the flash hider

since ive shot a lot of people without even seeing them i just see the massive muzzle flashes

[azure basalt]

flash hider is the way to go tbh

the suppresor is also bad

[slender isle]

It also adds limb modifiers

[azure basalt]

makes your velocity like a BB bullet

[slender isle]

The heavy barrel does

[azure basalt]

so slow

[arctic grove]

ima try out the m16 again then with flash this time

its a nice gun visually just didnt like how it played sometimes so ill give it a go with that advice

[slender isle]

Make sure to run the grip and not the laser

[azure basalt]

yeah having a grip also reduce your recoil control its really nice

[arctic grove]

alr

ima get back on in a sec cuz i was playing manifest but got burnt out

c1 and d1 (the ship objectives) are really annoying to play tbh

[slender isle]

I haven’t played it in weeks cause australia has no 128p conquest running

[azure basalt]

i really confuse with dice/ripple effect, why they add more portal weapon than the AOW (main game)

[slender isle]

Easier to design

Cause you don’t need to concept art and figure out how they work

You just put them in with the same handling etc and remake the model

[azure basalt]

man.. so they have no commitment to make 2042 better then

[slender isle]

Wdym?

[azure basalt]

its easier to design vault weapon

[arctic grove]

a lot of new inspired guns are probably gonna be stuff theyve been sitting on for a while

[slender isle]

We’ve gotten 6 portal weapons and 6 new weapons

[arctic grove]

total fps said to me a while ago alongside some others here that they planned on adding the m250 so thats not new news, and 6 guns were datamined in december some of which we still havent received

namely my beloved M45A1 and M18

[azure basalt]

i really want aow have more weapon than portal

[slender isle]

There also been like what? 12 guns data mined in the past 2 months?

[arctic grove]

yea i think temporyal found some new portal guns

[slender isle]

Well technically portal will always have more amount of weapons just due to 2042 being incorporated in there too

[slender isle]

Yeah, he’s had 2 recent releases of 6 each time. Think there was the rpk, MTAR, and Aug in one of them

[wide shore]

And the AN94 coming to vault apparently

God please

[novel shadow]

I heard a mention of a shotgun with frag rounds being put in

[azure basalt]

the USAS?

😨

[novel shadow]

DAO-12

I think

[azure basalt]

i think its the drum mag is it ?

not with frag rounds

[arctic grove]

If it came with frags they’d probably have a near direct hit splash radius of some sort

[novel shadow]

Its on bf3 collection. It does have frag rounds@azure basalt

[tepid agate]

So real 👀 #other-games

[slender isle]

Usas was leaked

As were a few other major weapons

[royal swan]

I think it was the USAS being one of the new portal weapons being added

Stop giving them kills then

Throw a nade or something

[slender isle]

That’s the 12m in AOW

[royal swan]

Smoke, something to throw off their hipfire

[slender isle]

The leaks for AOW were an94, spas 12, m98b, m416 and then there was another I think

Like vault weapons^

[next onyx]

Huh.

Where'd you get m416?

I'd be so happy for the m416 to come back. But I'm just curious.

[slender isle]

Dev “confirmed” it a month ago

Like it was asked and they did the good ol’ “perhaps”

[next onyx]

I know what you're talking about.

Devs are in the position where they cannot confirm or deny.

[slender isle]

Exactly

[next onyx]

Maybe it's coming maybe its not.

[slender isle]

But it’s more likely to come than not

[next onyx]

The an94, m98b and spas 12 badges were indeed dug up though.

Which confirms they are on their way.

[slender isle]

Think there was something like a CZ scorpion also being “confirmed”

[royal swan]

Spas 12 has a higher hipfire right

[slender isle]

I can’t actually send photos in this server lmao

[next onyx]

Cz3a1?

That's a bf4 weapon.

[slender isle]

Possibly?

[next onyx]

But than again the rpk 12 was dug up and that was a bad co 2 Vietnam weapon.

I just want an rpk 74m man.

Wanna know some fun irony.

The 12m makes the scar look balanced.

[royal swan]

Go look it up, pretty easy to find, especially on YouTube

[slender isle]

IVE BEEN SAYIBG THUS

[slender isle]

I’ve got the Screenshots of the dev doing the “perhaps” thing with the m416 and CZ scorpion

[next onyx]

@fallen wasp

[slender isle]

That was in this server as well lmao

[slender isle]

Maybe throw in the portal weapon pics too

[royal swan]

Spas 12 would be nice for more shotguns in aow

[next onyx]

The m416 would be nice to see though without a doubt.

I guess I could.

[royal swan]

Give a better more balance option

Instead of the op auto and the sad msc880

[slender isle]

Would it handle similar to m5a3?

[slender isle]

Msc 880 ain’t even bad, it just can’t compete with an auto shotgun

[next onyx]

M416 has a similar rpm to the base m5.

If they gave it a 5hk it would suck.

[azure basalt]

whats wrong with msc880 :(( its a good gun

[royal swan]

Underperforms everything, needs higher hipfire or longer range

[azure basalt]

i got tier 1 on it

[next onyx]

So they'll need to give it some sort of 4hk range.

These were what were dug up.

However these haven't been fully implemented.

[slender isle]

In portal (with legacy controls turned off) it handles like the m16 does rn but with m5a3 damage ranges

[next onyx]

The MTAR, UMP45 a d RPK74M would be cool to see.

[azure basalt]

really hope they bring both BF3 and BC weapons in AOW

[slender isle]

I want a bullpup AR/smg in AOW

[quiet shell]

WHO THE FUCK CHANGED THE EXPOSURE BREAKTHROUGH LAYOUT

[slender isle]

I think they are? The GOL is BC2

[quiet shell]

Change it back this one is fucking AWFUL

[slender isle]

It’s cool right?

[next onyx]

Funny enough I was just looking at the vss and looking back they added the 2042 vss before the bad co 2 vss.

[slender isle]

Wait nvm you don’t like it

[next onyx]

Oh the 128p layout.

[azure basalt]

OR OR.. hear me out we can change the attatchment so the gun can be like bf3 or bf bc variant

[next onyx]

I love how it has an attack vehicle.

[royal swan]

When did it change

[next onyx]

An attack chopper that is.

[azure basalt]

example rpk you can change the attachment so its like rpk-74m

[next onyx]

This update.

[slender isle]

Breakthrough is great cause the last sector is like hella locker vibes

[quiet shell]

Why would they switch to the 128p layout WHEN THEY DONT HAVE 128P BREAKTHROUGH

[next onyx]

Yeah they're the same weapon.

[azure basalt]

stg aug to be aug A3

[next onyx]

Fucked if I know

[quiet shell]

WHO THE FUCK IS STEERING THIS SHIP

[next onyx]

Jesus.

[azure basalt]

yeah imagine they add attachment for bsvm so we can change the gun like vss

[next onyx]

Wait no that wasn't meant to be an answer hsisyausv

[royal swan]

Calm down, Jesus, it's not a big of a deal

[quiet shell]

It is too me because exposure is my favorite map

[slender isle]

The B flag is great, the second sector is much better now that the tunnel is gone, tunnel was hard to attack

[next onyx]

This isn't the new layout.

This is an old layout that was never meant to surface, antherm.

[azure basalt]

bruh i play breakthrough and always got the same 2-3 maps

[next onyx]

Before they cut 128p bt.

[radiant prism]

Honestly I like the new exposure layout

[azure basalt]

so boaring

[royal swan]

Is this new

[radiant prism]

I feel like we see more of the map

[royal swan]

I don't see any YouTube videos about it

[slender isle]

Did it not change? I haven’t actually played it lmao

[next onyx]

Personally they should just keep the first sector and then re use the rest of the 64p layout.

[slender isle]

No breakthrough servers

[next onyx]

Basically the 128p layout starts out at F.

[slender isle]

Okay cool

[next onyx]

Sector 2 and 3 take place at C1 and d1, then the other half way down.

[slender isle]

There was a pic someone sent of it idk

[next onyx]

It's a mess.

[royal swan]

Send pic

[slender isle]

Well, remove the tunnel obj and move that to above, keep the B flag and then that normal final sector

Done

[next onyx]

The 64p layout is fun.

[slender isle]

Exposure on breakthrough doesn’t use its verticality at all though. Only really on the push down to S2 and push up to S3. If you die you just spawn down there

Or up there

[next onyx]

I just wish it had the first sector from 128p added on.

[royal swan]

I need to see this map

[next onyx]

I could try to see if I can load into a bot match and get it.

Need to go to the gym soon.

[slender isle]

Give it a try, I still haven’t properly seen it

[quiet shell]

Why does discarded have to be in the rotation so often

[next onyx]

It's sticky it's humid it's miserable.

[azure basalt]

theres a new layout for exposure breakthrough???

never tried it

[radiant prism]

Yeah

It starts further over on the radar station

And has a few objectives all the way down in the valley

[azure basalt]

i wanted to tried it but never got into the rotation

aalways got the same map over and over again

got hourglass for third time yesterday

and then orbital twice

[next onyx]

Sector 1.

[slender isle]

Dare I say I like it

Now we actually have verticality

[azure basalt]

oh wow never tried that

i didn't even know it exist

[slender isle]

Now we wait for 128p breakthrough

[azure basalt]

never gonna add that

they said it got remove

[next onyx]

Sector 2.

[slender isle]

I’m hoping for it to come back