battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

Mistew Awex is hewe!

[chilly dove]

OI

[next onyx]

Hey!

[chilly dove]

what's good

[next onyx]

I reckon he would be aware.

Stuff is good.

What about on your end.

That being said.

[ripe hedge]

i refuse to believe this lmao

[low timber]

Way, guess my M44 progress.

[next onyx]

I almost hit the ADS bug as Lis but it sort of sorted it self out.

Uh.

[lucid goblet]

I know,but just wanna be sure haha, it's my last AR i need to T1 (SFAR) and it's driving me nuts

[low timber]

No, still under T2

[next onyx]

Give me your account and I can get it to tier 1 within a day.

[chilly dove]

Found something relevant and only 3 days old. Many of us were looking for that sweet sweet trailer song from the Master of Arms trailer. 2WEI has done a good one. GG Dice / EA

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-tempt-gandalf-dont-tempt-me-gif-5609024

[next onyx]

Hey it would be fun.

I got my VCAR done within 24 hours.

[chilly dove]

Check this out everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGOigKCq28 if you haven't yet

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-bender-bender-bending-rodriguez-madman-hes-a-madman-gif-22638073

[next onyx]

Unfortunately my hand hurt after a straight day of clicking.

[low timber]

Oh yeah, Alex can we shave off 10 kills from sidearm masteries, pretty please *puppy eyes*

[solid imp]

My last AR to T1 is the ACW and... Falck has some things to say about it, so listen up it looks like she's going into story time 😂

[next onyx]

@lucid goblet @ripe hedge BANG BANG BANG.

[mossy badge]

Avengers Easter egg

[next onyx]

One thing that makes me happy is the fact that the operators practice trigger discipline.

[low timber]

Shes like

I have an idea

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/its-jason-bourne-gif-25127621

[next onyx]

Henry thought it was buffed to be full auto.

Nah!

[low timber]

Way broke his finger after that

[lucid goblet]

😂 rapid fire mod on your fingers now eh

[solid imp]

Way literally is the persistence error in a server

[next onyx]

My entire hand was in pain.

At the end.

Luckily it healed in the following morning.

"hey my hand is good"

[chilly dove]

@next onyx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGOigKCq28 🔥

[next onyx]

Ayo!

[chilly dove]

Hat off to whoever decided to pick that song for the trailer, well done

[next onyx]

Ye.

[cursive depot]

does anyone else have an issue with the LATV loading a low poly model with no animations?

[low timber]

679

[next onyx]

Oh damn.

Yeah Daz that sounds related to your storage drive.

Possibly.

[chilly jacinth]

Theyve been that way for me since S2 started basically

and my game is on an m.2 ssd

[hollow fossil]

no teasers for the next season yet?

[low timber]

Most likely next week

[hollow fossil]

damn it...

[chilly jacinth]

Theres 2 weeks left of this season

[hollow fossil]

ye this week and next week

so the week after will be s3 i assume

[limpid pond]

I am now awake

[azure vapor]

Sus

[still vault]

that's not a teaser

[chilly dove]

That song really makes Charlie Crawford want to inspect his PF51 side arm and AM40 assault rifle as he rolls into a stranded cargo ship with a Polaris RZR after the AO has been cleared out by an EBLC-Ram escort, only to have immediate contact with hostile forces, forcing him to throw a concussion grenade and shift the cards in his favour.

[still vault]

that's just a rumour

[hollow fossil]

is that like fan art

o

[limpid pond]

It's the name twaser

Teaser

Not confirmed yet though

That's all we got

[still vault]

hence rumour

could be fake for all we know

[limpid pond]

Passive aggressive teaser

[cursive depot]

I tried to post a screenshot from my steam of the LATV, but got timed out 😦 started in season 2 for me too, but my games on a sata ssd

[umbral island]

Everything Temporyal has leaked has been true

[limpid pond]

Send to me and I'll post for you

[next onyx]

It could be the name of the map or the season.

[quaint vector]

You can't count with everything tho

[next onyx]

We don't know.

For now.

We wait.

He's going to fully reveal these things when these things have been revealed anyways.

[quaint vector]

Yeah, its just 2 weeks until Season 2 ends

[hollow fossil]

would like another event like the liquidators except without the paywall

[limpid pond]

Eh the liquidators event in general was pretty trash. I found myself only playing to 100 ribbons then back to breakthrough I went

[chilly dove]

I want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vRujrdsfXw this trailer song available on the in game radio station. Hayaku!

[limpid pond]

From what I hear alot of people did the same

[hollow fossil]

i think it was fine just disappointed that basically all the cosmetics were just bundles

[umbral island]

I got 0 ribbons at the event

[limpid pond]

Ehh they could have done a tad more with the event. Cosmetics wernt very good anyways

[quaint vector]

I got 100+ in the first day...

[limpid pond]

That was me in 3 hours

[cursive depot]

the one cosmetic i wanted was the m5 weapon skin and that was in the store

[umbral island]

It wasn’t even worth it

[limpid pond]

I fsrmed kills with paik

Farmed

[umbral island]

I’m glad I didn’t

[still vault]

There we go, now everything I've ever leaked will have been fake 😄

[quaint vector]

[mental delta]

But it doesn't exist ?

[limpid pond]

This looks like a PowerPoint I tried making for science class in 7th grade

[tame cobalt]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantOpenQuailRalpherZ-qX1ffnblH-kuP_P7?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed

2042 w

[still vault]

You tell the C5 to tell my M418 that 😄

[fiery dawn]

I abused the 8v8 mode for fast smg T1 masteries since it allowed me to drop 25-30 kills a game in 6-8 minute matches

[limpid pond]

Eh cod fan base is more dedicated to cod then the bf fan base

[tame cobalt]

[limpid pond]

Yeah I didn't have much to master since I mastered almost every single gun during launch

[next onyx]

M416 would be cool to see again.

[mental delta]

Lol yeah but I mean it would take time for them to create a whole new weapon, they would have to change barrel and stock, I remember seeing a BF2042 version of M416 during season 1 though, I think it was made by Dice

[ripe hedge]

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkk

[limpid pond]

Be cool if they added the honey badger to the game

[next onyx]

Hey Alex a bit of a question on your opinions. It's not about this game but stuff.

[fiery dawn]

The clip won’t load for some reason. What did he say exactly?

[next onyx]

Do you think that support should use battle rifles? Or should it be an assault weapon.

[limpid pond]

Basically mw2 visuals are good but the overall game sucks

[next onyx]

Or in a bit of a better question

For everyone here.

[still vault]

How dare you mock my 1 minute power point like creation 😄

[fiery dawn]

I’ve already unlocked gold camo on 5 assault rifles in MW2

[umbral island]

Machine guns

[fiery dawn]

[limpid pond]

Nah you did good. It would take me 5 back in 7th grade

[next onyx]

Bfh gave support battle rifles.

And they worked beautifully.

[ripe hedge]

ur not gonna like my answer

[umbral island]

Machine guns

[next onyx]

I mean I do want to hear it out.

[limpid pond]

Assault should use battle rifles

[next onyx]

Even if I'm not going to like it.

[limpid pond]

Support is already in the action so why not give them mobility speed and faster firing guns

[chilly dove]

Gun freedom... right? Plz maintain

[next onyx]

I'm not a fan of machine guns for support as much as I love it.

[mental delta]

Battle rifles ? 🤨

[limpid pond]

Smgs for the W

[umbral island]

A machine gun is support tho

[next onyx]

Battle rifles are higher powered rifles.

For example.

[chilly dove]

DMRs etc

[umbral island]

You give suppresive fire

[next onyx]

Scar L is an ar but the scar h or g3 are battle rifles.

Firing 7.62.

[mental delta]

Like M27 IAR ?

[next onyx]

M27 iar is an iar.

It's own class.

[mental delta]

Ha yes

[next onyx]

They're assault rifles with longer barrels and larger mags meant for more accurate bursts of fire.

[chilly dove]

but now you're splitting hairs Way lol

[limpid pond]

Nah that only happens in real life. This is a video game where most the gaming community cares about individual effort nowadays

[umbral island]

PKP still gives suppresive fire in this game

[next onyx]

Bf5 lmgs were pretty much more snipey assault rifles that differentiated themselves well versus assault rifles.

Even if the difference was small.

No no mobile network no fucky wucky.

[limpid pond]

Bfv lmgs were cool

[tame cobalt]

"someone asked me this earlier, 'do you think this is better or battlefield?' i think Battlefield is much better than this, actually... The new one... Am i crazy for that?"

[umbral island]

@next onyx Support isn’t for combat

[next onyx]

A support can be just as viable in combat.

[umbral island]

Well it is but it’s more to ‘support’ your team

Like lmg’s to give suppresive fire

[next onyx]

And a battle rifle allow for more accurate fire.

With the perks of mobility.

[umbral island]

That’s for assault and recon

[limpid pond]

Guys no one's getting rid of my damn smgs

You all understand?

[next onyx]

Assault rifles are more aggressive. Battle rifles are more passive.

[tame cobalt]

all classes are for combat, actually. or at least, that's how classes SHOULD be designed

[umbral island]

Battle rifles would more fit with engineer

[limpid pond]

If they get rid of my smgs I'm gonna give every one of the devs at dice a colonoscopy myself

[next onyx]

To be honest I have no fucking clue how engineer should fit in since assault and support do it better.

Engineer in this game instead uses high tech for other shit.

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

A what.

[limpid pond]

Colonoscopy

[next onyx]

I get you're passionate and that but please don't make those comments

Yeah I know what you said and I unfortunately know what that is.

[umbral island]

Colonoscopy

[limpid pond]

Alright will no longer say that

[next onyx]

Look it up but don't bring up your findings here.

But in seriousness.

[limpid pond]

posts definition

[next onyx]

Lmgs should work as lower mobility options for support, hey you want lots of ammo? Here you go.

[limpid pond]

No way

Terrible idea

[next onyx]

Battle rifles low mag high powered ranged alternatives work in the same vain.

[limpid pond]

Smgs or nothing

[chilly jacinth]

I've had a colonoscopy

[next onyx]

Please.

[chilly jacinth]

[limpid pond]

Either I wanna shoot you with an smg or stab you with a cane

1 of the two no run around slow as hell with a fat hunk of metal

[umbral island]

Support is supposed to be like some sort of logistical unit

[chilly dove]

gamer mad. makes threats

[umbral island]

Not close range combat

[limpid pond]

[next onyx]

Battle rifles aren't particularly good close up.

Well.

[limpid pond]

No way

[next onyx]

Versus assault rifles.

[limpid pond]

Stop it

Smgs or notging

Nothing*

[next onyx]

You use a scar h and fight a guy with a m416 up close. Who will win?

[limpid pond]

Acar

Scar

[next onyx]

M416.

[limpid pond]

Scar op

[next onyx]

Higher rof and same power.

[limpid pond]

Smgs or nothing way

Don't do this

[next onyx]

We get it you love subbies.

[limpid pond]

I'll ban you

[next onyx]

Can't ban a mod.

[chilly dove]

What's the issue anyway?

[umbral island]

Can’t ban a Dread

[limpid pond]

[next onyx]

Augh wrong emote.

[frank stratus]

WAY YOU SUSSY

[next onyx]

I'm not sure on the issue.

[limpid pond]

I have a purple name I can do whatever I want

[next onyx]

Spinny.

[frank stratus]

cap

[limpid pond]

I'm literally a ceo

Aw crap

Another one

[next onyx]

As good as it was to see.

Just don't give support a God damn fn fal.

[limpid pond]

Nope

[next onyx]

I would advise not posting that again.

[frank stratus]

you payed for the role, i got it by chatting

[frank stratus]

WHY?!?!??!?

[limpid pond]

Wait really?

[chilly dove]

are people crying over arbitrary issues they can fix in portal?

[frank stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-20348263

[next onyx]

You are aware on the origin of the meme right.

[frank stratus]

no

wait lemme search it

[next onyx]

Or not Origin, just meaning. I'll dm.

Ah better.

[frank stratus]

k

[ripe hedge]

Regardless of "what goes into which class" which is a lovely discussion, i personally, (reddit i know you are screencapping this, read that again, PERSONALLY), think that Sub-Classifications of the same weapon type are pointless. Carbine, Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, its the same... its just fancy words to infer the type of cartridge they use, but the usage of the terms varies WILDLY between manufacturer, region and even individuals. So classifying "what is an AR and what is a BR" is an exercise in arbitrariness in which i have no willingness to participate.

I also feel that it dilutes the experience a bit. Instead of having one big varied pool of "Assault Rifles", some of which are big and heavy using fully powered cartridges by default (BR's), others light and using medium ammo (Ar's), others even a bit older that only have single fire (Carbines), you basically artificially restrict yourself to 3 smaller pools of homogeneous weapons that arbitrarily fit your description of what is what. So less variety within an archetype. Reduces the chances of picking or making weapons more "unique" than others.

[limpid pond]

You have no results

@frank stratus 100000 messages? You phsyco

[frank stratus]

alr @next onyx i got the meaning

[next onyx]

That's fair. You'd rather have assault rifles straight up to allow more variety within that category am I reading that right?

Alongside the other things too.

[limpid pond]

Damn I want way to dm me

[next onyx]

I guess hardline kinda spoiled me like that.

[ripe hedge]

Correct

[chilly dove]

I completely agree with you.

[frank stratus]

i'll never post it again on this server UwU (but i will on my top secret server with other bfd members )

[frank stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-american-psycho-walk-jam-gif-16732505

[limpid pond]

Incorrect

Yo how do I get ea staff color

[frank stratus]

you cannot

[limpid pond]

I already know I gotta be ea staff

[next onyx]

My mindset is for Support have these assault rifles that have some range and play differently while assault has err... assault rifles that allows them to push.

It's funny cause you say I don't like your reasoning but I mean, I kinda don't don't.

[limpid pond]

But like can I just apply lol

[next onyx]

You need to actually work on the game to get the role if you really want it.

[limpid pond]

Nope. Strictly subs homie. Support it good the way it is

[frank stratus]

^

[next onyx]

Enforcer which was bfh support really made me appreciate what they tried to do.

Bf5 support in the same vain too.

[frank stratus]

my urge to post the homie gif 💀

[next onyx]

Because their lmgs were assault rifles with more accuracy and that was that.

[limpid pond]

I'll code more subs into the game then code a legit sub under the map with pickles lettuce and sugonde

[low timber]

My M44 is 29 kills short of T2.

[pastel loom]

makes sense because lmgs also aren't there to begin with
there's only one which is a battle pickup

[limpid pond]

Use the new sugonde field upgrade

[next onyx]

@ripe hedge I guess where I am coming from is that I wish for there to be mag fed LMG's in game instead of it all being strictly belt fed which just means we get super long reload times.

An RPK74M, M27 IAR and something something are the more reasonable guns to use for a support player like me.

But it's like... why play support if you want mag fed lmgs.

Ez. Unlimited ammo!

And super snipey guns.

[low timber]

AWS, MG36

[limpid pond]

In all realism if you're playing medic support you don't need a lmg

[next onyx]

XM8 LMG.

[limpid pond]

You should be up front reviving people

[next onyx]

It works both ways.

A medic can hang back.

[chilly dove]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge just give us these and let us throw them however we like

[next onyx]

And a combat medic gets in their faces.

[limpid pond]

I've switched to medic recently and I run throwable smokes with the smoke grenade launcher and a smg

I do feel tho that if you revive someone you should get a minor map ping like paiks scan ability

But only 1 time and no the multiple scans like her

Forces people to revive to get info and can overall strengthen medic performance

[next onyx]

It would be cool if that if you killed a medic on bf5 and picked up their ammo pack you'd get a medical pack back.

[limpid pond]

Yeah that would make sense

But that's why it didn't happen

Lmao jk

[next onyx]

Reminds me back on bf1 with the scavenger perk if you stabbed specific classes they'd drop various loot.

Three mines if of an assault, three bandage packs if a medic, three if a support and I'm not sure about recon.

[chilly dove]

I'd like a gun called "hand" which has like 5 damage and very little penetration. Ammo is rocks

[limpid pond]

I don't remember

[chilly dove]

single fire

[next onyx]

There was a handgun on bf5.

[limpid pond]

Just add a slingshot

[next onyx]

A literal handgun.

[limpid pond]

Handguns are fun tho

[chilly dove]

So is being pushed out of bushes while prone and not being able to move backwards while prone into bushes or on rocks intentional or not? Because Carbonic has me confused.

[ripe hedge]

That, i agree

[wide shore]

I agree with that too

[next onyx]

A 60+1 RPK 74m is personally all I need out of an Lmg.

Or a 40 round bren gun that has almost zero recoil.

[wide shore]

Just bring over the FG42 and Way will explode

[next onyx]

Gimme the bf5 FG42 into 2042 with a 35 round mag option and I'll be a happy support.

Personally all I ask out of an lmg or IAR is something that gives me range and accuracy with the loss of handling.

[wide shore]

All I ask rn is the an94

[chilly dove]

but, we are still going to be able to sundance around the map with any weapon I want... right?

[wide shore]

Yes

[chilly dove]

k good, carry on

[quiet shell]

Im pretty sure the BF4 dev for weapons had a similar philosophy on the old Battlefield forums when people complained about all classes getting DMR's, Carbines, and shotguns alongside their signature weapon class.

[shell ermine]

I did not like the way BF4 handled that one bit.

On the other side I really liked how BFV gave each class a varied pool of weapons.

ARs and SARs for Assaults, SMGs and bolt action carbines for Medics, LMGs, MMGs, and Shotguns for Supports, Bolt action rifles, SLRs, and Pistol carbines for Recon.

[wide shore]

It’s kinda like how in the game right now, the AKS74U is considered and SMG and has that headshot multiplier, and the ACW-R is considered an assault rifle and has that headshot multiplier. But unless I’m mistaken, they’re both carbines.

[next onyx]

All kit weapons were good.

[shell ermine]

Modern Warfare 2 2022 is the first game I've seen that's properly classified the 74u as an Assault rifle

[chilly dove]

Battlefield players always out in force to remove freedom from their game.

[shell ermine]

Too much freedom erodes the class structure

[next onyx]

The 74u isn't an ar. It's a carbine. In deployments it's been used as an SMG and assault rifle.

[radiant prism]

Took em long enough

[next onyx]

Freedom is good.

[shell ermine]

Not always

[chilly dove]

with arguments like "class structure" or "nostalgia" lmao

[next onyx]

Pdws as all kit weapons is good.

[radiant prism]

also Way I got like 40+ kills with the F-35 last night

[chilly dove]

"teamwork only exists with classes!" lol

[radiant prism]

Using the VTOL mode

[next onyx]

Good gecko.

[shell ermine]

2042 proved this

[next onyx]

How did you not get hit by a rocket.

[radiant prism]

Oh I did eventually

[next onyx]

Ah.

[chilly dove]

sure...

[radiant prism]

But it took em till the second to last sector on Hourglass

[wide shore]

There’s gonna be just about the same amount of medics running by me in season 3 as the last two seasons.

[naive sandal]

A slight increase in projectile velocity would be nice
And default bolts max dmg should be increased to 120 hp imo because they are useless against people wearing armor (slow reload)
@ripe hedge

[radiant prism]

Some nice evasive flying and using range to my advantage

[next onyx]

Team work does exist but the level of teamwork is the same versus the older games.

[shell ermine]

Carbines are ARs with shortened stocks and sometimes shortened barrels. They fire the same cartridge size as their big brothers

[radiant prism]

The 25mm cannon is still pretty good over long range

[chilly dove]

^

[next onyx]

I'd grind out for tier 1 scout choppers but I can't be bothered.

I am aware what a carbine is.

They're good for at crews because of their size and power.

[shell ermine]

Submachine guns by definition fire Pistol cartridges, so the 74u was never correct to be in a category called SMG.

PDW, sure that's a more nebulous term

[next onyx]

Bf3 it was a carbine and in bad co 2 it was a pdw but that's for a completely different reason.

[chilly dove]

hopped on Battlefield 3 this past weekend for some conquest large. Did not see a single assault class. Went to metro. Multiple squads of only assault.

everybody just revive spamming cuz it's broken

[next onyx]

Personally all I care about is that if they've made it an smg. It should have the advantages of an smg.

[wide shore]

They’re dumb then. The m16 is busted

[fast pulsar]

https://i.ibb.co/brBpWNr/image.png
How is it that some people have their opponent's red light shining so strongly, while most others, like me, only have it shining normally?

[ripe hedge]

Based

[next onyx]

I still remember spam reviving people and getting my first revive ribbon.

"Huh this is easy"

[wide shore]

I wish the AKS just killed in one bullet faster. Cause rn it takes 5 body shots. It can’t compete with the other SMGs at all

Especially with its 600rpm

[next onyx]

It would be cool if it were just a carbon copy of the pp29.

[chilly dove]

anything that gun can do, so many others can do at greater ranges or same range on engineer. Scar H for example

[next onyx]

Less rounds but a bit quicker reload.

And heavy barrel.

[chilly dove]

and on the other classes too so

[shell ermine]

I understand why class weapon restrictions can't be jerryrigged into 2042 , but I really hope going forward we don't have the all classes can use all weapons thing continuing

[chilly dove]

engineers were definitely not complaining in BF3

[wide shore]

I love using it. Cause the AKS is a sweet gun. But it gets outclassed very easy rn

[next onyx]

The aks reload makes me feel things I shouldn't.

[ripe hedge]

This is extremely reductive and ignores the vast difference in manufacturing process, reliability and overall quality over the historical Carbines vs Assault Rifles. They were light and smaller to cut down production costs, not to help the soldiers in any meaningful way.

[quiet shell]

Maybe in the next battlefield game something similar to BF4's weapon distribution can be done? So that way players still retain their classes identity but continue to have other options

[wide shore]

In a good way? Or a bad way

[next onyx]

I'm not sure if the feelings are good or bad that's the issue

[naive sandal]

Pssst minor ac42 buff plz 🦹🏻

[wide shore]

Cause I think the reload is one of the few examples of a reused animation looking good.

[wide shore]

Just wait for the AN94 and it’s sweet sweet 2 round hyperburst

[chilly dove]

I had fun turning M16 into a DMR-like thing though with heavy barrel. Also running around flag capping is great and all but, when you can just sit on a mountain side and snipe people with anything you can throw together, you quickly realise that it's way more fun than meat grinding

[next onyx]

The an94's recoil is gonna be reduced sincd people are gonna complain and it's gonna outclass the ac42 for hyper burst.

[shell ermine]

I was agreeing with you that carbines should be pooled in with BRs and ARs, unless I misunderstood what you were saying.

[naive sandal]

K30 burst mode is pretty satisfying - it can shoot about 300 bursts per min

[fast pulsar]

^

[tame cobalt]

In the dev stream, alex said ac-42 is at a perfect spot for balancing, so good luck with that

[chilly dove]

preach

[wide shore]

Since the underbarrel fix on portal guns last update, it doesn’t kick at all anymore in burst

You should try it

[next onyx]

I gave it a go on portal it has a bit of kick.

It's good it has kick.

[wide shore]

Using it with the grip?

[next onyx]

I might just run foregrip hb.

[wide shore]

Maybe I’m just used to it. Lol

[next onyx]

I don't feel the difference with the fore grip.

Infact I don't think fore grip functions as intended for most of the weapons.

With and without the foregrip I get the same recoil patterns.

[wide shore]

Idk before last update I feel like it kicked way more.

[next onyx]

Same magnitude same spacing.

Maybe.

[wide shore]

I know it may be hard to believe. But I’ve used it a lot.

[chilly dove]

what platform are you people playing on where you're having difficulty controlling recoil?

[wide shore]

I don’t think I really have an issue with any guns recoil

Though I haven’t used the PKP in a while. Lel

[chilly dove]

I find every gun easy so the only reason I really change anything up is for looks lol

[low timber]

Took out the AA Wildcat to destroy the stolen Super Hind and after that destroyed few of their aircraft and they stopped spawning them in completely

[chilly dove]

AC-42 with box silencer carbon series mmmmmmmmm

[wide shore]

I wish you were on my teams on breakthrough.

[low timber]

Don’t

[wide shore]

I feel like I’m the only one targeting helicopters ever

[low timber]

It’s so hard to get the AA Wildcat when needed

[wide shore]

Everybody runs it with the 40mm

[next onyx]

Don't be sad.

[low timber]

Oddly they didn’t bring out the stealth heli

But the two person attack heli did get me down to 18hp.

[chilly dove]

what were you using?

[low timber]

Just the 30mm dual cannon and AA missiles

[chilly dove]

what game mode? Conquest 128?

[low timber]

Breakthrough Orbital, Attacking side

[shell ermine]

I don't find any reason to use any gun except the Scar. It's good up close,it's good at range, it's got a versatile UGL, why use anything else?

[low timber]

So there was a hill they could heal behind that no one could be able to shoot at them, or even the big building.

[chilly dove]

it's not pretty

SVK, AC-42, BSV-M(VSS), SWS-10

[fiery dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-be-sad-this-is-just-how-it-works-out-sometimes-angel-bf2042-battlefield-angel-dont-be-sad-angel-gif-24855532

[chilly dove]

pretty guns

[fiery dawn]

AC-42 is ugly

[chilly dove]

you take that back! lol

[fiery dawn]

it’s a bullpup

[chilly dove]

which are the best looking weapons

they come from the future

[fiery dawn]

anything bullpup is ugly to me

except Aug

Aug is sexy

[chilly jacinth]

Famas

[naive sandal]

@ripe hedge
There's a roughly 150 ms difference in time to kill in the 30 - 75 m range between the ac42 and the sfar (hp rounds)/m5a3 (hp rounds + shortened barrel). Imo this difference in ttk should be lower (50-75 ms) because the ac42 is unforgiving - bursts have to be timed perfectly and it's challenging to down moving targets (running/strafing) with the ac42 (delay of ~225 ms between bursts and 75 ms between shots from a burst - eg only a single bullet from a burst might hit the moving target)

[fiery dawn]

Famas is ugly

[chilly dove]

AUG is tired of you objectifying it. Aug rights. they're more than just your fanciful material

[fiery dawn]

sexy lady

[chilly dove]

looks like an AUG A3 SF, the best one imo

[fiery dawn]

[chilly jacinth]

No u

[fiery dawn]

thank u papi

[wide shore]

How dare you

[fiery dawn]

[chilly dove]

they have a terrible opinion, don't worry.

[fiery dawn]

they?

[chilly jacinth]

do you prefer it instead

[fiery dawn]

no

[chilly dove]

it has a terrible opinion lol

[fiery dawn]

I sexually identify as a Javelin missile launcher

[chilly dove]

F2000 is probably the best looking of them all too. sci fi-est of weapons.

[ebon pilot]

bitch i'm a bus transport

[wide shore]

Of course a javelin wouldn’t like the famas smh

[chilly dove]

but only in a very specific configuration

[fiery dawn]

[chilly dove]

https://d4guns.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/07021314/1100437.jpg

[fast pulsar]

replace bus with flying tank

[wide shore]

Damn. Speaking of Javelins

[fiery dawn]

Aug better

[wide shore]

Heat seeking transport

I would love to see the F2000

That gun has kicked ass in every game it’s been in

[chilly dove]

AUG would like it if you would stop comparing its brethren in such a shallow manner.

[fiery dawn]

AUG is queen 👸

[chilly dove]

how can a game like 2042 not have a gun that was clearly made in 2042, the F2000, but brought back in time to present day?

but I guess the AR category getting kinda stacked now. we need more DMRs

[calm bison]

Because lawgick

[wide shore]

Throw a longer barrel on the F2000 and make it singlefire.

New DMR

[chilly dove]

I like you

[wide shore]

[chilly dove]

we can call it, the FS2000

[radiant prism]

I mean, Vanguard has the F2000, why can’t 2042???

[calm bison]

God it’s so stupid

[chilly dove]

wait really?

[radiant prism]

Yeah lol

[calm bison]

You would think they can’t make a worse WW2 game than BFV

And then they prove me wrong

[fervent grotto]

I think it would be cool to get the scar DMR version.

[mossy badge]

Vanguard has aw gun too

[fervent grotto]

Hey bfV is good

[mossy badge]

Laser gun

[radiant prism]

I think people are realizing slowly that BFV wasn’t that bad of a WW2 game outside of women existing

[calm bison]

I know it is

I got 700 hours on it

[fervent grotto]

“Women in my WW2 game? No that’s bad!!!”

[calm bison]

Hold on I gotta get in my circle jerk element

/rj politics is when women in vidya

[fervent grotto]

The same mfs when battlefield portal was announced:

[calm bison]

Like the most egregious thing about BFV is women and Japanese fighting for Germany

meanwhile in CoD WW2 and Vanguard

[radiant prism]

Like we’re ignoring the gold plated guns and shit. It’s just not that bad lol

[tame cobalt]

facts

[calm bison]

Gold plated guns is not that bad considering BF1 had them as well

[radiant prism]

BF1 is frankly worse on the historical accuracy scale than BFV

[tame cobalt]

but we know why certain people make a big deal out of it

[radiant prism]

And I will die on that hill

[chilly dove]

we got an actual "how dare women in ww2!" person? lmao

[fervent grotto]

No no that’s just what the cartel does to guns. Don’t you know the lore behind BFV? We’re all cartel members recreating WW2 battles

[radiant prism]

Lol

[calm bison]

BF1 players trying not to brag about their immersion and setting challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[radiant prism]

Whoops mb forgot about that

[tame cobalt]

Playing with guns and vehicles that were never used in ww1: OMG SO IMMERSIVE

Adding a character creator system that lets you choose gender: DEY RUINED BATTLEFIELD

[radiant prism]

BF1 cherry picking historical accuracy to allow a non functional experimental SMG to exist in their immersive WW1 experience challenge

[chilly dove]

We could all go play Day of Defeat: Source. The best world war 2 game

[calm bison]

BF1 is fine. But it’s not really WW1

[wide shore]

If we let them do what they wanted, it wouldn’t have been

[dapper river]

true, it beats the piss out of BFV any day

[radiant prism]

Sometimes I wonder if the series would get better if DICE just stopped listening to the community

[chilly dove]

but why though?

[radiant prism]

And tbh? Yeah no it probably wouldn’t

But

I think there would be improvements in places

[tame cobalt]

Dey Ruined Battlefield!

[wide shore]

There would certainly be new ideas

[dapper river]

old game good new game bad

[calm bison]

Yknow there was a time in the BFV community where I thought we had moved past the “wHy dIdNt DiCe aDd tHe SovIetS doNt tHeY kNoW iT wAS sO bIG” type posts. I was wrong

[wide shore]

I heard so many people say they wouldn’t flip on BFV after 2042. Wonder where they are now

[tame cobalt]

This server should add the old man from the "they ruined battlefield" video as an emoji/sticker

[calm bison]

God as much as I love BFV the community around it actually sucks

Especially those armchair historians

These motherfuckers thought DICE would add the Soviets because of one LMG

[wide shore]

All i really wanted was to full auto people with the MG42

I fulfilled that dream

[calm bison]

We had a Finnish LMG but where’s the continuation war?

What about Polish and French weapons?

[fervent grotto]

Wish they would’ve add Russia

[calm bison]

Personally I think they should’ve fleshed out the pacific and American Western fronts more before moving on to the Eastern front

[wide shore]

I just wish the LAD actually got added. It had everything done. And a belt fed normal LMG would’ve been great

[chilly dove]

just survive long enough to see Battlefield 10, np

[fervent grotto]

PPSH-41/43, DP27, Mosin Nagant, SVT, PTRS-41, Avtomat.

[mossy badge]

All i wanted from BFV was that USA team should have atom bomb

[radiant prism]

As much as I loved BFV

[wide shore]

Trueee

[calm bison]

There’s not enough pacific or naval content

[radiant prism]

I'm kinda glad we didn't get the soviets solely because I really didn't need people to be LARPing Enemy at the Gates 24/7

Because people seriously misinterpret that movie

[fervent grotto]

No dude that just enhances the gaming experiensh 🤓

[radiant prism]

Or go with the whole Soviet "human wave" myth

[calm bison]

BuT mUh SovIet aRmY! I wAnT tO bLaSt KatYuShA wHiLe kiLliNG fAsCisTs!

[radiant prism]

As if that whole thing doesn't come almost exclusively from german postwar memoirs

Made to, yknow, make the Germans look good

[chilly dove]

so have you noticed the meta of what you're all complaining about yet?

[devout flare]

agreed

[calm bison]

After watching LazerPig’s T-34 video and reading and seeing so much stuff about the Soviets in WW2 I’m really beginning to doubt them as a “good” force

They were fucking villains

[chilly dove]

"how dare other people have fun in my game"

[radiant prism]

There's so many misconceptions about WW2 in general

[wide shore]

This is a mild nitpick. But I wish the American boats in the pacific worked like the bridge boats in BF1.

Being that the bridge drops on shore, and as long as the boats are there, you can spawn on them. You could only spawn on the US boats, even if docked, when there was somebody in it already.

[radiant prism]

Like it doesn't even stop at the Germans and Soviets

[calm bison]

Normally we wouldn’t have a problem but when you have so many people like fucking fantasizing it becomes gross

[devout flare]

japan vs china action pleas

[calm bison]

I want you to read what I’m about to say in the most fluttery voice you can pull off

“Imagine if DICE had added the Soviets! Imagine the fights in Stalingrad and Berlin!’

[arctic grove]

We need a Battlefield Civil War (USA Civil War) please!

[calm bison]

Read that quote in the most pitchy and fluttery voice you can

And you will likely see where our problem lies

[devout flare]

Battlefield-Napolean

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 2242

[calm bison]

Battlefield 1842

[chilly dove]

but at the same time, are you taking the defense of a lack of inclusion of a historic faction in a WW2 game a bit far? I'm not out here "needing" anything, but why not have more WW2 factions in your WW2 game if you can fit it in?

[tame cobalt]

mid

only if they make it alt history to have more guns

[devout flare]

battlefield agincourt

[calm bison]

Because it may not be necessary. I would’ve liked to see DICE do more with the factions we had post 5.0. I would’ve loved to see the UK vs Japan.

[devout flare]

360 noscope with an english longbow

[calm bison]

The Soviets are not the end all be all

[mossy badge]

Is that second part of 2142 ?

[tame cobalt]

yes even further future

[quaint vector]

[chilly dove]

this is gaming, nothing is really necessary. it's all arbritrary. I'm sure there are many WW2 games that have russian and german factions that don't touch other factions.

[tame cobalt]

Battle on other planets

[mossy badge]

Will you be fine with titanfall 2 type movement

[shell ermine]

Didn't Red Orchestra only have USSR and Germany until the Rising Sun expansion?

[tame cobalt]

no

[mossy badge]

[chilly dove]

I'll take 2 of this please

[tame cobalt]

but respawn's star wars fps should have titanfall type movement

[mossy badge]

What i want is a 128 player , fully destructible environment, titanfall 2 type battlefield game

[shell ermine]

It should be a Jedi Knight reboot

[radiant prism]

I want CoD: IW's setting (but no boost packs or anything)

Because IW is fucking cool and I love it and fuck you if you disagree I will not debate this

[shell ermine]

Leaks show IW maps and operators coming to MW2022

[mossy badge]

broooo no jetpacks

[radiant prism]

(But not actually fuck you because thats mean <3)

[ebon pilot]

Battlefield 2242

[radiant prism]

Just wouldn't go over well with this community...and probably wouldn't play great either

[mossy badge]

That's also true tho

[mossy badge]

I hope it's something cool

[chilly dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lUoA9q0jnM Titanfall 2 memories

[radiant prism]

Throwback to when I predicted 2042 like a year before it was revealed

[calm bison]

I wouldn’t mind if 2042 leaned a little harder into the whole futuristic warfare type thing

This is a game 20 years in the future and everything is still basically the same

That leaked tank tho

[tame cobalt]

One word: mechs

[radiant prism]

I mean there's still some pretty cool future stuff..but yeah

[calm bison]

Not mechs

[radiant prism]

yeah I'm not vibing with mechs

[tame cobalt]

L

[radiant prism]

I want more tanks and IFVs and cool shit

[calm bison]

More like stuff like the rail gun or RAWR

BRING BACK THE HOVERTANK

[radiant prism]

Where's that hover tank from BF4?

[ebon pilot]

I mean, beyond the internet, everything is pretty much the same as it was in 2002

[radiant prism]

Yeah thank you Dreyfuss lol

[tame cobalt]

well we get rail gun tank in s3

[calm bison]

Normally I would agree except the military is expanding rapidly

The US just accepted a new light tank

Russia is busy trying to not fuck up its future arsenal

[radiant prism]

Not that it really has one nor can it afford it lol

[calm bison]

The F-35 is moving into a more production phase

[white geyser]

And yet they still fuck it up

[tame cobalt]

i wonder how they'll balance the rail gun, like what will its pros and cons be?

[radiant prism]

meanwhile the Su-57 is effectively nothing but a prototype

As is the T14

[calm bison]

Literally 20 T-14s

[tame cobalt]

Low fire rate?

[radiant prism]

I think I heard stuff about T-62's in Ukraine?

[dapper river]

military hardware has seen very little change in the last 20 years

For example, the F/A-18, seems like a modern and contemporary 4th gen fighter, right? How about the F-22? That thing looks like it's from the future!

[calm bison]

This is the gimmick of the SU-57 femboy

Scary whistle noise

[radiant prism]

Oh and the Cobra maneuver

[calm bison]

Which was already done by the fucking AVRO VULCAN

[radiant prism]

Which has exactly zero tactical use in a modern dogfight

[tame cobalt]

What do you think will be the pros and cons of the rail gun tank cannon in 2042? For balancing

[chilly dove]

wait are you talking about the engine whistle?

[radiant prism]

(mainly because dogfighting as we often think of it is dead)

[calm bison]

The SU-57 would be shot out of the sky miles before it even comes within dogfighting distance of an F-35

[chilly dove]

the Su-57 isn't the first jet to have a high pitched whistle lmao

[radiant prism]

the F4U Corsair did it first smh

[chilly dove]

and it's entirely a harmonics thing. plus as a stealth fighter it's not about "audible detection" or anything like that anyway.

[calm bison]

Yeah if you’re a stealth fighter and you sound like nails across a chalkboard that’s bad

[tame cobalt]

No one wanna speculate on how they'll balance the 2042 rail gun?

[chilly dove]

i mean, generally, you're at high altitude + far away, sniping with missiles

[radiant prism]

Modern 5th gen fighters have moved away from the concept of dogfighting

[chilly dove]

it's just different here because the average gamer can barely drive a buggy in BF games

like the community of people who still need vehicle buffs, incase they crash into the side of a building lmao

[devout flare]

shit dude

m16 with burst fire is actually kinda lit

Feels better than ac42

[radiant prism]

nah bro

Full auto that shit

[devout flare]

i do, but i got bored wanted to try out burst

[radiant prism]

Valid

But also

Wrong

[devout flare]

its better for flanking

Ammo conservation i got a 4 kill with one mag

efficiency

[chilly dove]

what was your engagement range? anyway SVK silenced with standard issue mags

thank me later

[chilly dove]

infinite ammo vehicles, regeneration. It's a wonder people in air vehicles die at all, even with all the AA, and every soldier with shoulder launched AA missiles, and every rat with them too

[glossy storm]

Can someone just explain 2042's lore so far? With Oz and all those characters?

[chilly dove]

those crows definitely have heat seekers too

[glossy storm]

Or better yet, provide any links for the same?

[devout flare]

mid usually

close range was ok cuz i run lazer sight

[chilly dove]

The Wizard of Oz

[glossy storm]

Never played the game, and I've gained some interest in its lore.

[hybrid sky]

Hello our clan is having a in-house rush scrim tonight (@8:30est) and we’re a few short DM if you’re interested.

[chilly dove]

Quite some time before 2042, the worlds powers begin to crumble due to environmental issues mostly stemming from human induced global warming acceleration. People begin to overthrow and leave nations and fall into the protection of corporations or patron-less association aka Non-Patriated civilians (NoPats)

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[chilly dove]

some of them are just mercenaries-like, others are bad like "Oz's" group dark market traders

Oz's group and possibly some others helping him conduct a series of actions all in the plan to have the last 2 super powers fight each other, apparently that's Russia vs U.S. in the war of 2042

and no pat specialists are called in for special missions by both sides for key blah blah blah.

Oz is more than likely the one who spawns tornados in so many maps.

[nova iron]

Hi there, does anyone have the same problem when getting on a quad bike? I sit in it and after that my character model stays in a sitting position, and I drive on. I can see myself in third person.

[chilly dove]

you can go get the specialist lore by unlocking that by playing them enough and viewing the special player profile cards

[cosmic sequoia]

Bring back exodus conquest

[chilly dove]

or going to the official website

[quiet shell]

Still makes no sense that the ACW-R only holds 26 rounds

I literally own the magazine it uses

and I can confirm it holds 30 rounds

[cosmic sequoia]

In 2042 we also don’t use artillery or ac130s or boats so I think a lot of stuff doesn’t make sense

[lusty temple]

Only takes 1 AA for stealth heli mains to dip and reappear 1 min later to bomb you

[cosmic sequoia]

Stealth heli shouldn’t have been added. It’s pretty balanced now though

[grizzled whale]

it shouldnt be able to destroy a wildcat in one run

[low timber]

Got the M44 to T2

480 kills to go

[grizzled whale]

just click heads

[low timber]

I have

[grizzled whale]

click 480 more heads

[low timber]

Oh wait, 479*

[chilly dove]

Such a beautiful thing too. But yeah no vehicle should have infinite ammo. No player should either, except Angel via the call in drop.

[tame cobalt]

ammo crate??

[chilly dove]

the loadout picker... crate thing that falls from the sky. angel specific

[cosmic sequoia]

Making vehicles have ammo would suck

[tame cobalt]

yes

[tame cobalt]

but u forgot players that choose ammo crate should also have infinite ammo... and players that utilize others' ammo crates

[chilly dove]

it'd be balanced. and realistic

[halcyon siren]

Quick question - whats the exact deal of the dev´s removing Exodus every 2-3 weeks?

[tame cobalt]

mode rotation

or wait

[wise zodiac]

Because boats at sea get people sea sick

[tame cobalt]

does it not get replaced by anything?

[wise zodiac]

[chilly dove]

fine, angel gets double ammo and 2 call ins max per life lol

[tame cobalt]

[halcyon siren]

@tame cobalt it does, now Master of Arms I believe is in place

[wise zodiac]

That was the best part of BFV

[tame cobalt]

then there's ur answer

[cosmic sequoia]

It would suck for most vehicles. Tanks would be awful because then they would have to turn around and get ammo after getting to the front line. It worked in battlefield 5 but it would not work here. Especially with the maps being so big.

[cosmic sequoia]

Yeah but it worked for 5, wouldn’t work as well here.

[tame cobalt]

[wise zodiac]

I think it would work.

You just can't be spraying rounds at everything.

[cosmic sequoia]

Tanks already get destroyed in .5 seconds because everyone and their mom has AT capability

[halcyon siren]

Kind of, havent been able to see any pattern or anouncements how this rotation works

[wise zodiac]

That's also why I think tank armor needs buffed.

[radiant prism]

BFV did exactly what y’all are talking about, yknow.

[wise zodiac]

A game I still play. Religiously. Lol

[radiant prism]

If you want a case study on how that would go, there you are.

[cosmic sequoia]

Bf5 was an amazing game. With tanks actually feeling like tanks

[chilly dove]

this would be amazing actually. you'd see more realistic comms and the game would again be more balanced.

[tame cobalt]

[lusty temple]

What's that fast vehicle that has a turret on top?

[cosmic sequoia]

More realistic comms??? Lmao

[cosmic sequoia]

It’s the new “tank”

[tame cobalt]

Tuk tuk (s3 version)

[wise zodiac]

I mean, my tank crews and I communicate very well on BFV.

[chilly dove]

"out of ammo, can't support your push any longer, estimated time of return x minutes"

[tame cobalt]

Either Bolte or RAM

[chilly dove]

i'm thinking from a CQ128 perspective

(the best mode)

it'd be a more entrenched game, less wild

cuz as of right now, and as of every BF game prior, it's a farming simulator. with infantry being the crops and vehicles being the farm tools.

[wise zodiac]

It would be very simple. Tank and full crew pushes a line with a surplus of infantry or other support elements. Tank expends ammo. Tank resupplies at closest area, with a small infantry contingent to make sure they don't get wrecked.

Then the tank returns to whatever line established.

[cosmic sequoia]

Vehicles also do minimal damage in this game

[wise zodiac]

That's another big problem, as a tank round should wriggity wreck someone.

[chilly dove]

say that to little bird pilots with like, any skill. or any stealth heli

or the eblc ram

[wise zodiac]

And that's also why part of your support element consists of AA units.

[cosmic sequoia]

Choppers also do no damage

[chilly dove]

even the buggies in this game are mad cray at the moment

[cosmic sequoia]

The 70mm rockets are a JOKE

Limited ammo would work if the infantry blueberries didn’t bitch so hard

[wise zodiac]

Balance schmalance. Who needs it? Am I right?

[cosmic sequoia]

“Too many vehicles, too much damage” cry

[chilly dove]

you can wreck people and vehicles with those buggies so quic

definitely not enough vehicles

but their damage can stay the same for all I care. I got no skill issue with them lol

even if the jet required you to fly away to an air base for a refill, I'd still dominate with it. and i still kill infantry with it too even though it's harder

we should have faster vehicle spawns, and 2 jets, 2 attack helies, 2 little birds, 2 stealths, 2 transports, 2 uh.. whatever else flies i dunno

and 2 of everything on the ground, all at the same time.

longer rounds (less bleed) but also all vehicles have ammo limits. there, i've balanced 2042 and made it more fun at the same time.

[cosmic sequoia]

Yes

More damage from tanks definitely

70mm rockets need damage buff

Same with 127mm

Not a lot tho

[chilly dove]

i think tanks are fine damage wise. the real issue is other things having too much HP. so... transports all need an HP nerf

there's no reason for them to be so.... tanky. in the sky or on the ground

the idea of an aircraft of any sort surviving a tank round... lol

i've noticed it's been like 3+ shots on the ground to take out MAVs. so maybe that's repairing. regardless I don't know what space age stuff they're using that makes them able to survive so many tank rounds. Atleast a full mobility "kill" after 2

[cosmic sequoia]

That’s true

I think it’s because of things like fucking c5

It’s literally because of just design flaws coming to fruition

[chilly dove]

exactly yeah

[cosmic sequoia]

The fact that everyone could ANY GUN ANY SPECIALIST ANY EQUPMENT

Just fucks anything else that doesn’t do with infantry

[chilly dove]

well now i disagree, cuz i like the freedom

how many c5 is it to kill a mav?

i think people carry like 3 max so 3 C5 probably kills a mav

[cosmic sequoia]

You like the freedom, but that doesn’t mean it’s what’s good for the game

[limpid pond]

Now the question stands

[tame cobalt]

what's wrong with any gun

[cosmic sequoia]

It’s why every other battlefield, including this one in season 3, is going back to classes

[cosmic sequoia]

Because it doesn’t make fucking sense

[tame cobalt]

lol?

[cosmic sequoia]

A MEDIC DOESNT RUN AROUND AITH AN LMG

you guys need to stop playing video games

And get a hint of reality

Lmao

[limpid pond]

Huh

[tame cobalt]

that was literally the medic gun in bad company 2

[low timber]

Bad Company 2 had LMG Medics

[chilly dove]

saying it with capslock doesn't make it impossible for a medic IRL to run around with an LMG.

[limpid pond]

Medics carried lmgs along with various other guns in reality

[tame cobalt]

no one cares

[limpid pond]

Most medics weren't even allowed to carry firearms

[tame cobalt]

this is a game

[limpid pond]

So that doesn't make much sense

That's reality

[royal swan]

Talking about immersion, fuck immersion

[chilly dove]

if you unlock super capslock, you can make it impossible for medics to run around with specic weapons you don't want them to though.

[royal swan]

Realism in videogames are boring and terrible

[limpid pond]

Exactly

Thata why it's fucking dumb to say medics shouldn't have lmgs

[royal swan]

Unless you are into that shit

[tame cobalt]

then play arma

[limpid pond]

Back in ww2 medics mainly didn't have guns and if they had to they'd pick one up from a fallen solider

[tame cobalt]

or squad

[chilly dove]

to unlock super capslock, it's just 12 easy monthly payments of $4000 to me

[limpid pond]

So his whole argument is stupid

[tame cobalt]

bfv medics would have no guns if @cosmic sequoia had his say

[royal swan]

If you want realism go play realistic theme games, not cod or battlefield

[limpid pond]

That's what I'm saying

Pretty stupid if you use realism in a video games

[chilly dove]

lol leave the poor soul alone

[tame cobalt]

"rEaLiTy"

[eager spire]

would be an interesting concept but it wouldn't be a good game, especially for multiplayer.

[limpid pond]

Dumb concept for fictional games

[limpid pond]

Yeah no one would be a medic

[chilly dove]

"DoCtOrS cAnT LiFt ThInGs!"

[limpid pond]

They would have to make medics invincible because you were supposed to kill them

[royal swan]

Really dumb when bunny hopping and slide cancelling exist

[limpid pond]

Yeah in cod

Can't do that in bf 2042

Slide jumping is a thing not bunny hopping

[tame cobalt]

i still think they are making one fundamental mistake with their design of the 2042 classes

[cosmic sequoia]

Nope, they have smaller guns

[limpid pond]

And bunny hopping only is remotely viable if you use Mackay

[eager spire]

bhopping is a thing in 2042 tho

you just said it wasn't a thing and then said it was viable with mackay

make up your mind

[royal swan]

Oh like a pistol, that would be fun would it.

So fun

[still vault]

Don't really see bunny hopping

[limpid pond]

It's not a thing outside of mackay

[still vault]

I do see people sliding a lot though

[limpid pond]

Exactly

Slide hopping is a feature

[cosmic sequoia]

Nope, like an SMG. Like most medic classes in other battlefields

[limpid pond]

And most people that use Mackay don't even know you can some what bunny hop

[eager spire]

it's really sad that 2042 is showing up the current CoD game in terms of player movement

like seriously how do you lose to Battlefield like that

[chilly dove]

like look at all the logical fallacies these restrictionists want

[cosmic sequoia]

Honestly any gun on any class isn’t that bad, but any equipment on any specialist is just awful

[chilly dove]

support can revive anyone in game right now using paddles. but people who aren't support can revive anyone in their squad.... using paddles... lmao

[limpid pond]

New dev team with no help from older devs. It makes sense

[tame cobalt]

Bad company 2 medic - LMGs
Bf4 medic - assault rifles
Bf1 medic - DMRs
Bfv medic - SMGs

...

[cosmic sequoia]

That’s fine but any gun is not good

[royal swan]

Homies heal homies not some stranger

Unless you are a support

[limpid pond]

Need them to make a sas skin for falck

[tame cobalt]

The only problem area is medic with sniper. They can just make that one restriction. Anything else more would provide ZERO benefit

[cosmic sequoia]

On the same token medics shouldn’t have LMGs

[limpid pond]

Dmrs again. With how many people camp. The vcar could be an exception

[tame cobalt]

that makes zero sense

[limpid pond]

I think every class should only have smgs

[chilly dove]

oi, leave my DMRs and sniper rifles alone. gun freedom

[limpid pond]

Smgs are cool and better

[chilly dove]

ya damn restrictionists

[limpid pond]

Only smgs in the game

[royal swan]

[limpid pond]

No other guns

[cosmic sequoia]

Makes zero sense? Use the same logic on why snipers shouldn’t be allowed

[eager spire]

what's the logic, explain that.

[limpid pond]

Prove me wrong under 500 feet

[tame cobalt]

can't use the same logic since they have different play styles

[cosmic sequoia]

Do they?

[royal swan]

Shotgun

[tame cobalt]

yes.

[limpid pond]

Aw shit I legit forgot shotguns exist

[cosmic sequoia]

Lmg players should be no where near the front line

[chilly dove]

BaTtLeFiElD gAmEs ShOuLdN't HaVe sNiPeRs!

[limpid pond]

Idk how the he'll I forgot shotguns exist lmfaooo

[royal swan]

I see no logic here

[limpid pond]

Aside from shotguns

[limpid pond]

The logic is aside from shotguns smgs are all you need

[royal swan]

Shotguns in this game underperforms except that auto

[limpid pond]

Ehhhhhhhhh not true

[royal swan]

Was talking about the other bullshit that was being said

[eager spire]

would be an interesting concept to see how people would play a BF game without them, though. Especially considering really good snipers in a BF game are a rarity, so you just have a lot of people trying to be Chris Kyle and failing.

[cosmic sequoia]

Nvm@im just done some people with no idea on anything military sit in here and just circle jerk each other. Why don’t we just follow the tried and true and somewhat realistic aspect of making classes? Gun restrictions make realistic and practical sense. A medic should not have a sniper or a LMG. They should be on the front line with an SMG reviving people.

[tame cobalt]

who asked about military?

no one

[limpid pond]

Whoops my bad

[eager spire]

"Some people with no idea on anything military" don't care, didn't ask

[chilly dove]

O_O

[royal swan]

It's alright

[cosmic sequoia]

It’s a military based game

But okay

[royal swan]

Go play squad

[eager spire]

it uses the concepts of war and militaries as a backdrop for a sandbox shooter

that's it

[cosmic sequoia]

God the of course it’s the cringe 12 year old and the unidentified object trying to make changes

Just cringe

Just go play cod or something

It’s simple

[royal swan]

Battlefield isn't a realistic game, hell they promote the random bullshit we do in the franchise

It will never be realistic

[chilly dove]

lmao I even hear cod is trying to move towards realism and it's pissing off their cod crowd

[eager spire]

yeah it's cause IW is huffing their own farts at the minute

[royal swan]

Realism hurts games that aren't made for realism

[chilly dove]

where shall the whiners who cry when they die to anything find a home?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[lilac dust]

If Tipping point is one of the featured modes in portal tomorrow Imma be playing a looot of 2042 tomorrow

[wanton magnet]

I wouldn’t mind the restrictions if it was like bf 3/4, with a variety of weapons to use. 1 and 5 was just shit when it came to that.

[chilly dove]

"No Shotguns, Snipers or DMRs: Full run and gun. Fast Respawn. Everybody revives or they get banned: THE GAME"

go there... wherever that game is lol

[royal swan]

That sounds terrible

[eager spire]

Sounds like a domination/TDM locker server i used to moderate on BF4. It was fun actually. Lot of decent people on there.

[chilly dove]

so what you're trying to say is, you liked a server that was essentially a daycare for crybabies?

i'm not even saying these people are rare but, trying to make core battlefield that is just weird, annoying and tiring to see

[copper fulcrum]

Implying shotguns aren't run and gun

[royal swan]

For once, this chat has made it where the players are terrible at game ideas

[chilly dove]

I think you're confused.

[chilly dove]

you realise i was mocking their terrible ideas right?

[royal swan]

Yeah, I just blatantly said it

[eager spire]

Oh fuck yourself, man. shotguns are blatantly unbalanced bullshit anyway, banning them is justified. If you can't play the game without them you shouldn't be playing the game at all.

[royal swan]

[chilly dove]

LOL

[royal swan]

As long there isn't a boycott over removing shotguns from videogames it should stay

[chilly dove]

gun that is really good at a certain range exists. "BAN IT!"

[eager spire]

They are impossible to properly balance in terms of a multiplayer shooter, though.

[chilly dove]

i don't use buckshot or any spread shot because I find it too easy at close range but I still like the challenge of going up against people using them.

[royal swan]

So are one shot snipers but I don't see the problem with them either

[eager spire]

snipers in BF are balanced by the virtue of requiring headshots to one shot. Shotguns do not require this. In fact they don't require any aim at all.

[royal swan]

I said one shot, no need for a head shot to kill

[eager spire]

Okay well i'm talking in the context of Battlefield.

[copper fulcrum]

blebblebeeld

[chilly dove]

"ThAt WeApOn PoSeS a ThReAt AnD rEqUiReS mE tO rEtHiNk My AdVaNcEmEnT sTrAtEgY................. BAN IT"

[fiery dawn]

bleblebbleedleb

[royal swan]

There is one for battlefield, it's that large sniper that has a huge bullet drop

[fiery dawn]

NTW-50

[royal swan]

^

[fiery dawn]

The Battlefield Kraber

[copper fulcrum]

I think they are based off the same weapon

nope, nevermind, forgot what the Kraber was

[fiery dawn]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_NTW-20

The Kraber is in fact “most likely based on the South African NTW-20” according to google

[royal swan]

Even if shotguns were the only gun that is op no matter how many nerfs they get, they are just too iconic to remove

[eager spire]

I think they should be removed. At least from multiplayer shooters.

[royal swan]

But they won't

They are sure to stay because of their status

[eager spire]

gotta cater to the lowest common denominator, i guess.

[copper fulcrum]

Thanks Liquipedia

[eager spire]

Yup

[chilly dove]

guys they just aren't overpowered. they're the concept of an SMG, but instant. They could nerf them by giving people full body armor OR people could just realise that running and gunning is NOT a real world tactic

[eager spire]

That's true

[fiery dawn]

lmao

[eager spire]

People could just realize that running and gunning is NOT a real world tactic
consider this: i am well aware of that, but this is a video game, so what is not a real world tactic is irrelevant

[copper fulcrum]

At least the MCS-880 isn't like the MCS-870 from WW3 which can one shot from like 30m

[royal swan]

Also, not everyone is a run and gun, people like camping

[eager spire]

jesus christ.

[chilly dove]

videogames are allowed to be realistic in different places

shotguns shred people up who aren't prepared? great.

[royal swan]

I believe there needs to be a counter to run and guns

[copper fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQ9d_0PwQE

[royal swan]

WHICH IS WHY CAMPING EXIST

[eager spire]

i mean there is, it's called being good at aiming and listening

[chilly dove]

SWS-10, best shotgun in the game baby

ssshhh it's ok

[eager spire]

you don't need a one shot hipfire gun to counter running and gunning.

better players do that all of the time without that.

[royal swan]

Then you don't need smgs

[eager spire]

why would you not need SMG's?

[royal swan]

If we can't get shotguns then you don't get smgs

We use assault rifles now

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly I just want more carbines. AM-40 is a good carbine

[eager spire]

SMG's existence in games are justified because SMG's can't get 0 TTK.

Shotguns can and that's the problem.

[royal swan]

But it's close

So remove them

[eager spire]

No it's not even close.

[royal swan]

It's close

[eager spire]

no.

[chilly dove]

slaps SWS-10 this shotgun baby fires a ridiculously accurate slug from a rifled barrel, comes in a variety of colours, and can fit so many 1 shot kills in it!

[royal swan]

Remove smgs remove a toxic play style

Same with shotguns

[eager spire]

why would SMG's promote a toxic play style?

[copper fulcrum]

Here's my woke mindset, everything is toxic

[royal swan]

The whole aggressive run and gun, you thrive on that rpm

[eager spire]

Don't see how that's toxic.

[royal swan]

Then I don't see how shotguns are op

[cosmic sequoia]

Isn’t that basic CQN

CQB*

[eager spire]

that is basic CQB, yes.

[cosmic sequoia]

Shotguns are just difficult to balance imo

[chilly dove]

our shotgun hate friend doesn't realise that pointing smgs with high damage in the general direction of target at appropriate range, with enough damage and hip firing, can actually replicate the effectivity of some shotguns.

[eager spire]

except it can't

[royal swan]

But it can

[eager spire]

because no matter how fast an SMG can kill, it can never equal shotguns. Because SMG's cannot achieve a TTK of 0.

You cannot one shot someone with an SMG.

[cosmic sequoia]

That’s true

It makes a good point

[royal swan]

But you can get a closer time to kill

[chilly dove]

shotguns don't have a TTK of 0 at all ranges.

only at some

[copper fulcrum]

12m Auto with Slug go bang bang dead

[cosmic sequoia]

Smgs don’t have a short TTK at all though

[eager spire]

They can achieve that 0 TTK at some long ranges, though. The potential is the problem, the consistency is irrelevant.

[royal swan]

No

[chilly dove]

wait what?...... lol

[royal swan]

The fuck

[cosmic sequoia]

Edited message my bad

It’s a long TTK at most ranges

[royal swan]

They do with a high rpm and damage

[cosmic sequoia]

That’s why I stopped using them unless they’ve been totally reworked lol

Yeah if you’re like up the guys ass

[royal swan]

Which can be easy in closer ranges like a shotgun

[cosmic sequoia]

Yeah

[chilly dove]

mythical gamer babies. "How dare any weapon have a realistic TTK"

[cosmic sequoia]

They’re in the same playing field

[chilly dove]

Hardcore mode would like to have a word with you all.

[cosmic sequoia]

You just have to be close to have good effectiveness

[royal swan]

Want to remove shotguns, then remove smgs or remove their high rpm