battlefield-2042

[placid echo]

And then there's me using the DXR with iron sights

[edgy oriole]

sniper iron sights are grody to me

[pearl surge]

falck is an assault character, change my mind

[drowsy seal]

@edgy osprey I use it and its the one gun I have T1. I get tons of kills with it

[pearl surge]

i think Falck is like a hybrid attack/support character, cause you have the syrette pistol and it’s like a med pen for teammates/urself

[pearl surge]

DXR-1?

[edgy oriole]

falck assault/support angel defence/support.

[warped pulsar]

Damn it, crashed at the peak

[slate meadow]

I hope they make Mackay medic

I really need it

Amount of times I can't res people because they are in a location I can't get to

[arctic grove]

Anyone else having issues finding a game?

[mint gyro]

@pearl surge come take your shoes back and why does it stinks of a camels ass in there pleas get it back I don't want them

[hollow fossil]

isn't there like 1 more week left in a few days till the season ends?

[pearl surge]

?

you got a problem or something

[arctic grove]

dafuq

[edgy oriole]

after the first week of szn 3 imma uninstall 2042 tbh

[arctic grove]

bro comes out of nowhere for the first time since september 2nd to say that to a random person

[pearl surge]

im honestly confused… is it because i said the thing about falck

[arctic grove]

no thats the 2nd person ive seen in here that says the most random thing ever out of nowhere

[slate meadow]

Yeah but I mean what a way to make your come back !

[arctic grove]

[slate meadow]

Why

[edgy oriole]

the whole 3 weeks i took off bc they couldnt fix their shit did it for me. since they have "fixed" it i havent even turned it on

[slate meadow]

Yeah I didn't play for 14 days but have enjoyed it since I came back they changed exposure on BT and the new orbital on CQ is so good the bunker bit reminds me of traditional battlefield

[arctic grove]

idk why but i just havent really touched the game either, dont even have much else to do

[edgy oriole]

nah im just done with it. its about to be a full year of release. i put enough hours into it. and they still suck at fixing shit. its been fun, but fun dies out. lol

next battlefield should be dope tho

[mint gyro]

When's the next battlefield coming out?

[arctic grove]

tomorrow

[edgy oriole]

should be 23 or 24

im leaning towards holiday 24

[slate meadow]

Doubt

[arctic grove]

Are the servers down?

[mint gyro]

Is it gonna be like the old battlefields?

[slate meadow]

Most likely 25

I saw somewhere they are dropping frostbite

[edgy oriole]

old battlefield dead man. its been 12 years since peoples "old battlefield"

[arctic grove]

they prob mean class models

[mint gyro]

The old battlefields were great what u on about

[arctic grove]

n 64p max serbors

[mint gyro]

It's better than 2042

[edgy oriole]

ITS BEEN 12 YEARS. is what im on about. a whole decade. its not going back to old battlefield

[arctic grove]

well lets see

jester wdym by old battlefield

[edgy oriole]

thats like saying "man cod sucks i hope it goes back to cod 3"

[slate meadow]

Bf1 like atmosphere in a modern day era

[mint gyro]

Obviously I want changes but I want a few things to go back how it was

[arctic grove]

yes but what do you want from old bottle fielf

[mint gyro]

Mele weapons

[arctic grove]

old melee system?

[mint gyro]

Ye

[slate meadow]

I think the most important thing for the next game is to launch with a decent amount of content that is playable like right now the game is in a really good place but the player base died off way before they could fix all the shit the messed up

[mint gyro]

Is 2042 good now?

[eager spire]

Things that would be good
-All of the BF games from BF3 up to BF Hardline but remade so suppression is not a thing
-BF1 with the second slide nerf reverted and no visual recoil or scope sway
-BF Hardline being supported with official DICE 60hz servers again

[arctic grove]

takedowns are pretty goofy

inputs are awful on them

[sour meadow]

it's tolerable

just don't expect a lot

at least not until season 3

[slate meadow]

Let's put it this way if the game in its current state is what we got at launch the player base would be alot greater then it is now

[arctic grove]

ye but it wouldnt without player feedback

[mint gyro]

What they changing in season 3

[arctic grove]

in order to get this game at its current state at launch you'd need significantly larger playtesting groups

[slate meadow]

I mean isn't alpha testing and beta testing ment to be there for that

[sour meadow]

class system

[slate meadow]

I can see the class system creating alot of issues imho

[sour meadow]

specialists are staying but they're being put into classes

it seems like a double edged sword

[arctic grove]

its the mediation that i uh

[sour meadow]

brings some harmony but also more chaos at the same time

[arctic grove]

think could use some revision.... as per my name suggests...

[slate meadow]

The issue is finding out the balance between classes and specialists

You know full well that when they launch it there will be a new meta that everybody will end up playing

[arctic grove]

assaults with c5 has some questionable balancing scenarios

mainly cause the mobility makes playing armor hell

[sour meadow]

tanks in 2042 are fucking

a joke

the increased player count and the overwhelming amount of antitank makes tanks extremely difficult to play

[arctic grove]

yea, constantly have to look around n stuff. i mean you always had to in BF but damn, one of these characters can glide behind you from across the map

[sour meadow]

imo tank play was perfect in bfv

but it was ruined by the planes

the 4000lbs bomb

the rocket guns on the planes

[slender isle]

Skill issue I guess, just get good, be smart, don’t drive straight into an objective… play as the wildcat or RAM

[sour meadow]

i've been tanking since bf4.

but every time someone brings up a valid issue in this server the first response is always "skill issue"

[arctic grove]

have also been tanking for quite a w h i l e (never picked it up in v tho i got like 10 hrs in that game)

dont forget that Lis exists now too, so you either snipe or usually get shit on

[slate meadow]

Man I got a ingrown nail it hurts so bad

[sour meadow]

it's really satisfying in V. swapping shells on the go. flanking other tanks and hitting them in the ass. using HE shells and ruining buildings filled with campers

[slate meadow]

Bfv tanks was way o.o

O.p*

[sour meadow]

tanks in 2042 are just "oh a tank" and then you pull out c5 and win

[arctic grove]

if only 2042 got a y2 so we could get a revamped melee system, armor angling, new movement mechanics, and a lot of nitpick stuff

[sour meadow]

that's not worth it in EA's eyes

their black, evil-filled eyes

[arctic grove]

unfortunately

[slate meadow]

Nah you just have to learn how to play them they play completey different to any other bf games most important thing is to have a good squad in the tank with you to make sure nobody can sneak up on you

[arctic grove]

also about the 'skill issue thing' one more thing i want to add

these servers can go up to 64 enemies, rn theres no class restrictions and it doesnt help that Lis exists too so like, yknow

[sour meadow]

it's not possible to push with a tank in 2042

you die instantly

and there's no denying it

if you can push with a tank in 2042 and live, you got lucky

[eager spire]

Vehicle/Infantry balance in this game is the worst it's ever been for a BF game.

[arctic grove]

ive seen my armor try to push and just get jumped by lis rockets, thats why it always concerned me when people said "ADD THE JAVELIN"

[eager spire]

Anyone who knows anything about playing vehicles knows this.

[slate meadow]

Tanks aren't for pushing with in 2042 that's for sure they are more there to take a group of people out so infantry can cap in BT

[eager spire]

anyone who doesn't, is probably writing "skill issue"

[sour meadow]

most people just use stealth choppers, enter stealth mode, and spam bombs

[arctic grove]

day 92592395329 of asking dice to revamp stealth mode to just increase lockon duration, not remove the ability entirely

[sour meadow]

i saw someone orbiting with a stealth chopper once

[spark edge]

ACW-R. good or nah?

[sour meadow]

like bruh

[eager spire]

nah

[arctic grove]

Just bring back bf3/4 with updated current gen graphics while we wait for the next bf game. Everyone will be happy.

[sour meadow]

how tf is orbiting still a thing

[arctic grove]

heli max flight ceiling should be likee

500 to 600 meters ig, and reduce their control at those heights maybe

[sour meadow]

for jets it's fine because jets can't spam bombs

[slate meadow]

Yeah same they sit so far up in stealth and you can do literally nothing there are/was portal servers that banned the stealth choppers for that reason

[sour meadow]

then again jets in 2042 suck ass

[slate meadow]

Jets in 2042 are the most pointless thing ever

[arctic grove]

the agm nerf didnt even balance them

they just put a gun to the back of the poor jets heads

[sour meadow]

choppers just reign supreme

[slate meadow]

The stealth choppers need sorting out tbh

[sour meadow]

gives me PTSD of bf4

[slate meadow]

The worst thing is in stealth they can still drop bombs

[sour meadow]

yea

like

just make the bombs swappable with the AGMs

[slate meadow]

They shouldn't be able to do any kind of damage whilst in stealth

[arctic grove]

at least theyre weak i suppose and get 1 shot by lis

[sour meadow]

that's all you need to do

i thought it was a two shot with lis

[arctic grove]

I think DICE switched it to 1 shot at full hp by the tgm

[slate meadow]

Nah they are 1 shot with Liz and Rog right ?

[sour meadow]

i wanted to see how effective the nighthawk is but last time i tried using it the game went into slow motion and eventually crashed so

[slate meadow]

RPG

But not AA

[sour meadow]

recoiless yea

but not Lis or AA

[slate meadow]

Nighthawk is stupid

It flies around at 1000 mph and you don't even have to lead your shots

[sour meadow]

i need to check it out

and preferably not have the game shit itself while i do so

but seeing how powerful choppers are now, i just main Rao

idgaf

anything i can do to harass helicopter pilots, i'm in

[cosmic sequoia]

MY GOD

caps

[arctic grove]

Lis/Rao team combos helps alot

[cosmic sequoia]

they ruined orbital

[sour meadow]

what

shit is fire now

[cosmic sequoia]

blah

[spark edge]

Is the ak 74 u worth unlocking?

I dont see anyone using it

[chilly jacinth]

it's not anything special

[sour meadow]

yea all the vault weapons are kinda whatever

i just see them as goals

[arctic grove]

Same

[spark edge]

Thank you boys

[slate meadow]

Yeah because nothing to grind for on the vault weapons people don't play them but the p90 actually smacks

[sour meadow]

i did have fun unlocking the Rex

the 44 magnum is excellent as a primary

[slender isle]

If only you had a gunner that could make that argument invalid

[sour meadow]

yea if only. my gunners are too busy trying to tickle transport choppers on the other side of the map instead of the mackay throwing c5 on me for the 10th time

[slender isle]

Exactly, tanks basically need 2 people to operate them other wise you’re dead

I can never kill a tank with a good gunner

Especially when I seem to be the only one running a launcher

[arctic grove]

Sometimes that’s a bit frustrating but those people are having fun so it’s not a big deal to me

[sour meadow]

and then when you tank, everyone else is using launchers right?

[arctic grove]

die within 30 seconds yes

i was maybe or maybe not tempted a couple nights ago to try piloting again

but my times of being an Apache main was defined by gray hair growth from how many lock ons i got

and now wildcat is stronger

[sour meadow]

fuck the wildcat

the ultimate camping vehicle

[slender isle]

I never even try, I don’t use the Abrams, mainly just the ram and wildcat. They’re the better options

[arctic grove]

how is the wildcat when compared to BF4s SPAA i wonder, cause i remember those were a pain in the ass to deal with too

[next onyx]

Hand no longer hurt.

[arctic grove]

good, now get back to playing 2042

[sour meadow]

i wanna use the ram

but

[arctic grove]

i'd probably tip it over

[sour meadow]

shit is a nightmare to drive

forget antitank

the terrain becomes the enemy

[arctic grove]

ive just hopped in when a teammate has the 60mm flak on it, i still remember that hourglass bt game where it got me like 30 kills lol

[eager spire]

Learn to drive

[arctic grove]

was literally the most fun ever

[eager spire]

I still remember the clip of a ram just pushing a tank out of the way like it’s nothing

[arctic grove]

yea the vehicles are like really weird

at the beginning of games jeeps can push tanks around after slamming into them

[eager spire]

Yeah, something’s up with the weight of the vehicles

[proud scarab]

Remember when hovercrafts could go vertically up buildings? 😂

[arctic grove]

please add that back

[proud scarab]

I miss that feature tbh

[proud scarab]

Right? 😂

[arctic grove]

it would help with F2 considering that is a vehicle objective on kaleido 128

[proud scarab]

Wish they’d do an overhaul of vehicle armor though

[arctic grove]

one things for sure they know about the complaints for it

but its lowkey anxiety inducing since we're on a very limited set of time with no confirmation of additional game support after they meet their quota

[slender isle]

Best bit about launch right there

[eager spire]

personally i don't expect there to be additional game support, and honestly, I feel like it would be a waste of time. I'd rather them spend the time to fix the issues this game has and make the next BF game better from a gameplay perspective.

[arctic grove]

yea as much as i'd like a year 2 for additional content and other stuff i'd rather ea/dice invest in it on a game thats at least generally positively perceived

[eager spire]

yeah, and this game ain't it

[arctic grove]

at least we've got a MW19 level battlefield reboot on the way

...right?

[eager spire]

i'd be very surprised

[lilac dust]

Heyo Season 3 , just wanna say I hope you're good. Yours truly - a container hater 😎

[slender isle]

I mean, the other game (we know) is in pre development, so that could mean they start development now or in a years time. We're at least 2 years away from a new bf game unless you count battlefield mobiel

A second year for 2042 would be financially beneficial just due to EA not having another battlefield game to fall back on

[proud scarab]

Yes but… this would be the second BF title they’ve prematurely stopped live support for, in a row.

[slender isle]

A year 2 would show they actually haven't lied to their player base and are also competent enough to continue support

[edgy oriole]

there will be a year 2 maybe even 3 but it will be mainly cosmetics imo

[slender isle]

Well it'll probably be similar to what we have now in terms of content, except without the map reworks and probably a portal map in there somewhere

[eager spire]

"Prematurely"

Would it really be premature, though, they would've committed to 4 seasons.

[edgy oriole]

hopefully next battlefield they can release a non broke game so they dont have to waste time fixing trash and be making maps instead.

[bitter skiff]

boin/good evening

[kindred flint]

non broken game releasing in current year

[eager spire]

well maybe if people would stop buying broken games we wouldn't be here

[kindred flint]

have you meet the average consumer for anything today?

[eager spire]

Yes and i want to hit them in the head and tell them to get a grip

[kindred flint]

it would also be hilarious if devs just wouldnt straight up lie to the player base too..

[proud scarab]

This was their first cross-platform, Right?

[eager spire]

yes this was their first game with crossplay

[kindred flint]

cp2077 "oh this game runs amazing on last gen!" -so that was a fuckin lie
2042 "games a head of schedule bro!"

[proud scarab]

And it’s a whole new development team, right?

[arctic grove]

The way I see it though is even if you get a group of people to stop you’ll never convince the millions of casuals

[proud scarab]

And a good majority of their senior staff either resigned, stepped down, left or were allocated elsewhere, right?

[eager spire]

I think most of the people who worked on 2042 came on after BF1

[kindred flint]

still waiting on the pervious MP lead dev that was "fired" under bfvs time to come out with a tell all report about the dumb shit they were being forced to do

[eager spire]

I would be very curious about that

[bitter skiff]

wha?

[kindred flint]

tigrr? what was his name

basically was forced to resign lol

[eager spire]

Like i've heard some people saying that they can't really talk about some aspects of 2042's development due to NDA's and i really wanna know what they wanna say regarding that

[kindred flint]

and someone was like huh why would they pull support for bfv right after the pacific update when everything was going up?? "yeah it was strange indeed" was basically his response

[proud scarab]

Not to mention I’m pretty sure EA has DICE by the balls when it comes to metrics and deadlines >_>

[bitter skiff]

oh... you arent in the #battlefield-legacy-titles2042darksecretgroup ?

[kindred flint]

its clear dev teams across many different publishers are mismanaged to shit, and the game quality suffers

[eager spire]

Like, I have a feeling the only reason they don't talk more about that is because they don't wanna get sued by EA or DICE execs

[bitter skiff]

boin talks, BS walks

[eager spire]

which i feel is a tragedy, like i feel like there should be more transparency into the conditions of the people working on these games and their thought processes behind things.

[slender isle]

that's not battlefield though

every battlefield has released a lil broken

[kindred flint]

haters will tell you bf4 was never broken at launch and the bestest game ever

[spare quest]

i would still rather play 2042 than bf4

[kindred flint]

same tbh

[eager spire]

BF4 had the best post launch support and changes, i feel. I mean, they removed visual recoil from all guns, as well as trigger delay from the 44 magnum in post launch updates.

The game plays really well these days for the most part.

[arctic grove]

That game had different visual recoil? Huh interesting

Lemme go look for that

[kindred flint]

unpopular opinion but vehicle unlocks are ass and should be removed

[spare quest]

nah

[eager spire]

Yeah, BF4 used to have visual recoil, but DICE removed it in a post launch update cause it was distracting and unnecessary

[arctic grove]

Yea I’m seeing videos of it now, that’s interesting

[chilly jacinth]

Meanwhile Infinityward adds a shit ton

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah MW2 visual recoil is crazy lol

I honestly got used to it on the M4 though

[chilly jacinth]

I genuinely fucks with my eyes

[eager spire]

i mean DICE aren't immune to doing this either, they added visual recoil back to BF1 and they made the spread to recoil conversion BS in BFV, which makes recoil basically random

They have a moment of "wait. this is stupid. why are we doing this." and then forget about that and just do it again later

[chilly jacinth]

Didn't know they did that in BF1

[eager spire]

they did

[chilly jacinth]

But the random recoil bs in BFV is why i didn't play it

literal shit game

[spare quest]

skill issue

[arctic grove]

I just use the sten, m1 or the m2 carbine

[eager spire]

yup figured someone would say it.

[chilly jacinth]

Gotta love spinning a wheel every time a bullet leaves the chamber

and hope the numbers line up better than the other guys

[arctic grove]

Relatively low hrec and vrec across the board on those

[spare quest]

its not the game's fault if ur not smart enough to control the recoil with your mouse

[eager spire]

you genuinely cannot control randomized recoil, though, not completely.

that's the entire issue.

[spare quest]

do you want recoil patterns like in csgo

[eager spire]

the fact that there's recoil that effects your aim is not the issue, it's the fact that that recoil is entirely randomized.

[bitter skiff]

everything is the games fault

[eager spire]

Yes. I would like predictable and learnable recoil, why is this a problem.

[spare quest]

Maybe you should stay away from battlefield games if you want recoil patterns

[bitter skiff]

Yeah, its not like CSGO

[eager spire]

i mean if they're gonna make it so where you're shooting is decoupled from the center of your screen like it is in previous games, then they should've at least made it so the recoil is learnable and controllable.

[arctic grove]

I never thought the recoil in V was that bad or anything, but I mean I’m coming from the perspective of 10 hrs in game and using a select couple guns

So I guess I’ll keep it in mind with more guns if I redownload it in the future sometime

[bitter skiff]

I agree, wish you could learn it

[slender isle]

It happened in siege but they changed it to be not random

[upbeat sand]

Why is bf1 having a spike

Of players

[eager spire]

because it's like $5 on steam right now

[arctic grove]

It’s like 5 bucks for revolution version

[bitter skiff]

ON SALE

[upbeat sand]

Oohhh

[arctic grove]

Literally 100% of the game is like coffee prices

[bitter skiff]

crazy

[arctic grove]

Super good deal

[slender isle]

Also, new WW1 film has come out

A pretty amazing one

[arctic grove]

WW1 supremacy

[bitter skiff]

[arctic grove]

Now I just need a sale like that for V or 4 on PC

[slender isle]

Please tell me you've seen it

[slender isle]

Need a sale like that for 2042 lmao

or a free weekend

[eager spire]

give me a sale on Hardline. Also give me official DICE servers for Hardline, please.

[bitter skiff]

Nah, im more of a Faulkland Islands type

[arctic grove]

So Cold War?

[bitter skiff]

Faulk me

[arctic grove]

I mean the falklands war wasn’t necessarily related to that but it happened during it I suppose

[eager spire]

what, the netflix "All Quiet On The Western Front"?

[arctic grove]

ye

[eager spire]

never watched it. heard some people say the original was better.

i don't know. it's based on a book i never read.

[arctic grove]

Me either, so not much I can say about it personally

[eager spire]

i don't really watch war movies

though i do wanna watch Apocalypse Now, but I donno if that really counts as a war movie

[spare quest]

well its an anti war movie

[bitter skiff]

I only watch tutorials

[arctic grove]

I’ve really only seen Jarhead when it comes to sitting down and watching a war movie

2012 battleship as well

[eager spire]

i mean, in all seriousness, a lot of war movies are anti war movies. war is not exactly a great thing to have happening at any given point.

[bitter skiff]

No Segal = No sale

[eager spire]

also heard some interesting things about Full Metal Jacket.

[upbeat sand]

the original 1930 i think is better

cause it fleshes 1 main character thats important to the movie unlike the remake

[arctic grove]

I forgot what FMJ was about

[eager spire]

i don't know, i just know that it's the movie where all those meme clips of the drill sergeant shouting are from

[next onyx]

Oh.

Full metal jacket.

[bitter skiff]

Saving pirate Ryan

A bridge too fart

Platooned

STRIPES!

Terminator

[eager spire]

i've not seen the original Terminator, but i have seen Terminator 2.

[bitter skiff]

ah!

[eager spire]

I thought Terminator 2 was a really good movie, i donno why they made any more movies after that one.

[hearty flame]

i thought salvation was interesting
got to see more "future" stuff

genesys and dark fate are trash though

whos idea is it to spoil the big twist in the commercials lol

[austere dirge]

its pretty good. war movies that highlight the teardown of one's sanity are the best ones.

[arctic grove]

I think all I’m concerned about when it comes to movies is probably the Lego movie sequel

[austere dirge]

apocalypse now is probably my favorite

[austere dirge]

so true

[eager spire]

yeah that's mostly what i've heard, and it seems interesting, cause all that i know about it besides that vague theme is the fact that it's where all those meme clips of the drill sergeant yelling are from.

[austere dirge]

i was in ur position for a while too. if you ever do get around to watching it, i think youll definitely enjoy it

[eager spire]

and i'm interested in Apocalypse Now because i heard that was one of the things that heavily inspired Spec Ops: The Line.

[austere dirge]

ooo i didnt know that! makes sense.

[eager spire]

And I liked Spec Ops: The Line.

[austere dirge]

apocalypse now is awesome. its literally War Is Insane: The Movie

[austere dirge]

me too =w=

[eager spire]

I've actually 100%'d the game on Steam.

I think FUBAR difficulty is the intended difficulty of the game but they had to lock it due to publisher intervention.

[austere dirge]

always funny when that happens to games. STALKER is a franchise that also had some corporate difficulty intervention lol

[hearty flame]

STALKERs difficulties are weird enough with corpo intervention lol

[eager spire]

well i mean STALKER, entirely unmodified, is pretty bullshit in terms of difficulty, mostly because some aspects of how it works just suck ass.

[austere dirge]

and there's the $ilvertips i know... coming in with the fresh hot takes as usual 😭

[hearty flame]

whats it again, easy makes everyone take less damage and hard the opposite?

same with accuracy too i think?

[eager spire]

Is that a hot take?

[austere dirge]

elaborate more i may be misunderstanding u

[eager spire]

I wouldn't imagine there would be so many mods that change how the game works if some aspects of the base game's design weren't lacking.

[hearty flame]

thank god for stalker anomaly

[austere dirge]

yeah i believe its something like the hardest difficulty will make everything super lethal for everyone, easy mode makes everyone bullet sponges bc damage is lowered across the board or somethin like that

[austere dirge]

i think a good foundation compels a sprawl of modularity. anomaly and other mods vs. the vanilla games are all experiences that have their highlights

[hearty flame]

everyone in the zone just mutated bullet resistance on easy lol

[austere dirge]

pretty much lol

[eager spire]

I think a bad foundation compels a lot of people to want to try to fix it, which seems to be the case with a lot of STALKER mods.

[hearty flame]

i worry that we're too spoiled by anomaly with 2 being a thing

[austere dirge]

you see the community differently than i do

[eager spire]

maybe, I'm not directly involved with the STALKER community at all.

[austere dirge]

yeah we shall see how 2 turns out. i have a feeling disappointment is in the cards in some form but im looking forward to it nonetheless

[hearty flame]

i dont think its foundations are bad, its just that its pretty old and has eastern europe jank

[austere dirge]

for context ive played through the vanilla games and played a bunch of mods. i appreciate all that i've played for what it is

[austere dirge]

yeah modernization is the one stride in modding that i think was born out of a desire to escape the crustiness of the old games lol

[hearty flame]

im sure ill be unable to stop comparing it to anomaly but maybe itll also be moddable

[austere dirge]

it's gonna be built on the unreal engine so im fairly confident it will be easily moddable

[eager spire]

I mean i've talked about this with friends of mine and i tend to agree but I think there are a lot of people that don't appreciate the jankiness of it.

[hearty flame]

kawaii desu zone when

[austere dirge]

lo and behold i exist. (shadow of chernobyl, the first game in the series, is my favorite)

is it flawless? absolutely not. do i love it? yeaaas

[austere dirge]

within weeks of launch

[eager spire]

I'm one of those people, I have a low tolerance for jank.

[hearty flame]

i think lots of people arent aware of how old the game is and how rough game dev in eastern europe was at the time
i mean they shouldnt really care but ya know

[austere dirge]

thats a fair sentiment. its highly contextual for me. sometimes crust has charm and other times a crusty game is just that, pure dogshit lol

[hearty flame]

the zone is truly mysterious lol

[eager spire]

i mean i'm well aware, I just don't care that much. Like that doesn't really add anything to it for me.

[austere dirge]

totally fair

[hearty flame]

ya

[austere dirge]

i hope stalker 2 is really good. it would be excellent to have a truly modern, professionally developed entryway into the stalker series

[eager spire]

would be nice.

mostly because i'm really sick of Tarkov being the only modern game with that kind of theme

[austere dirge]

totally with you there lol.

consider checking out Road To Vostok's development if you haven't already

[eager spire]

Like, I really dislike Tarkov. I don't see how people like playing that.

Oh i know about Road to Vostok, I played the demo when it came out.

[austere dirge]

sweet :) yeah i had my time with tarkov and i havent played it in a good long while. im pretty much totally over it

i dont really understand how people just keep playing it either now

it was briefly novel and exciting for me and my friends but once the honeymoon phase wore off it was like alright... this is pure torture

[eager spire]

You know what's a genre that I feel is underutilized? Co-op tactical shooters with like exploration and horror themes. Like, The only kind of shooter like that that i can think of is SCP Pandemic.

[austere dirge]

i think GTFO kinda explores that niche, havent played it but ive seen some videos. but yes i totally agree i think there is some serious potential with that genre.

me and a buddy have literally workshopped game concepts for fun that would be in that genre haha. I think eventually we're going to get something that will rock the market. i have no idea when though

[eager spire]

Oh yeah i forgot about GTFO

[austere dirge]

but from what i understand GTFO can be easily frustrating. so im not too keen on playing it

[eager spire]

i'm told it's one of those games that really requires a dedicated group of friends to play with

[austere dirge]

yep same

[eager spire]

because if you're playing with random people, you're not having a good time

[austere dirge]

in general, games that critically require tight comms are kind of a hard sell for me

too many conditionals to have fun

[eager spire]

Like, I like the aesthetics of Tarkov a lot. Also the weapon customization is neat. But what i don't like is everything else about it, I don't like the timed raids, i don't like the fact that it's an MMO, and i don't even think PVP gameplay is that fun in it.

I feel like i would like it a lot better if it was a co-op PvE game.

[austere dirge]

totally with you. the PVP is the absolute bane for me. ive tried out single player mods for tarkov and there was some good hours spent on that but ultimately its as you say, i think it would truly shine with a coop pve mode.

its a shame because there is a lot going on mechanically with tarkov that is unlike anything on the market right now but its bogged down by aspects that we can't really ride with

[eager spire]

but Nikita isn't gonna make that a thing. He hates fun.

[austere dirge]

yeah that guy is seriously on one. i dont really get his deal. but i digress. i think we got some good shit coming eventually. and i think sooner or later someone's going to make a coop extract shooter because we're starting to see more and more extraction shooters pop up on the market

road to vostok has softly planned coop sometime after release. so that's a nice thought

[hearty flame]

i think that they are using tarkov as a money maker for their single player sequel or something

[eager spire]

Road to Vostok Co-op would be cool. o3o

[austere dirge]

the dev has gone on record various times saying he's very down to work on that once he's completed the initial vision of the game ;)

[hearty flame]

i mean theyve got a pretty solid base for that building off tarkov

[austere dirge]

yeah i remember that being established but at this point i dont trust them to finish tarkov or actually make that single player game. their pace of development has slowed to a sloth crawl

[eager spire]

Yeah i think it's called Russia 2028. Though apparently he's been trying to work on that for years and frankly i'm a bit sick of Nikita's existence right now

[austere dirge]

^

[hearty flame]

maybe tarkov has slowed to a crawl because theyve shifted? no idea just hopium lol

[austere dirge]

haha maybe. we'll see eventually i suppose

[rigid blade]

Tarkov will eventually have streets of tarkov which is the pvp arena. There will eventually be armored vehicles to deal with, but they want it to be as realistic as a game can be

[eager spire]

They shifted before even finishing all the Tarkov maps? I donno, man.

[austere dirge]

streets and the arena are two separate things

[eager spire]

yeah Arena is gonna be a separate thing.

[austere dirge]

streets has been delayed for years and im expecting arena to be delayed too lol

[hearty flame]

im just glad there are kinda single player tarkov mods out there

[eager spire]

yeah i appreciate that they exist. Even if i still don't really care for playing the game by myself.

[austere dirge]

yeah and to my understanding someone is working on getting coop working for their single player tarkov mod but that's gonna be a long while until its out, if ever

[eager spire]

I donno if they'd ever do that, because that seems like a really good way to get a DMCA from Battlestate.

[hearty flame]

i mean they finally got that coop skyrim mod out

theres a chance, a slim one but its there

[eager spire]

Like that's the only reason that SPT still exists is because it does not have any multiplayer functionality at all.

[austere dirge]

all the single player mods are pretty much walking the tight rope with regards to DMCA. i think they're just gonna for it, come what may

[rigid blade]

If only games that cared about there games had the cashflow of EA and Activision without all the corporate red tape

[austere dirge]

ready or not is a coop game that seems to be getting some decent cash while caring for their game. but its still in early access so we'll see where that goes

[hearty flame]

if only
but theyd just get bought out and then corporatized like bioware and dice

[eager spire]

well i mean BSG don't even allow refunds for Tarkov since it's a beta release

wish i knew that before my dumb ass spent $60 on it

[austere dirge]

yeah and if you want access to their apparently planned DLC you gotta drop way more

and i think arena as well?

[rigid blade]

You can sell the account pretty easily

[eager spire]

yeah Arena is a seperate purchase unless you own the Edge of Darkness edition

[rigid blade]

Change the email, get rid of it. Sold my eod awhile back

[austere dirge]

good to know. ill hold onto my copy for now lol

[eager spire]

that's tempting but my account's a standard edition account

and i can't imagine that would be worth much

[rigid blade]

Eh, sold it for $350 with 1b roubles on it mid season lol

[calm bison]

Some days I feel like Michael Reeves and other days I feel like Cletus

[eager spire]

I mean i have exactly nothing on that account

because it's basically never been played during this wipe

[rigid blade]

Yeah, I thought it was a dumb buy but... my money now 😂

[eager spire]

yeah i donno if i'd be able to sell my account for that much

donno if i'd be able to sell it for any more than i paid for it

[rigid blade]

Yeah gotta actually play

Which it sounds like you don't have the interest lol

[eager spire]

yeah and that's unfortunate because I don't wanna do that

If i wanted to do that i wouldn't be considering selling my account

[rigid blade]

It was a fun game but it got boring real fast with no new content for 2 years

[eager spire]

I personally don't think it was ever fun at any point

the only amount of fun i got out of Tarkov is watching other people play it.

[arctic grove]

I recently learned the same studio that made tarkov made this old internet game called contract wars that I used to play

[eager spire]

yes

in fact it takes place in the same universe

[arctic grove]

Safe to say I am an OG

…..

[eager spire]

i guess

[arctic grove]

TKPD was so OP

[eager spire]

Contract Wars seemed more like a standard shooter tho

i wonder if Arena's gonna be more like that but with some of the Tarkov mechanics.

like i'll watch Arena when it comes out but i am not spending $40 for it

Also Nikita was talking about how there will be like esports and shit for EFT Arena and it's like maybe stay in your lane nikita

like i don't think Arena's gonna do that well.

like maybe it'll do well by Tarkov standards but i don't think it's gonna revolutionize the world of esports shooters

[slender isle]

Well there is currently competitive tarkov

Arena is more like a 6v6 tarkov

[honest comet]

when is s3?

[slender isle]

So it's kinda perfect for Esports

[slender isle]

22nd most likely

[honest comet]

nice

any news what could be in it?

[slender isle]

3.0 most likely has the vehicle rework, 1 new map, 3 vault weapons, 3 new weapons, probably some portal weapons, new vehicle, new specialist, new gadget, skins, and then the BP

The only unknown is whether the vehicle rework will be in 3.0 or 3.2

3.1*

Then 3.1 will have 3 new vault weapons, the map rework and then some other changes like usual

then 3.2 is the Class rework with a map rework and 3 new vault weapons

[eager spire]

Personally i don't understand the concept of competitive tarkov, and i've heard some people say that Arena is gonna be Tarkov without the Inertia mechanics.

[slender isle]

Well competitive tarkov would take the great gun mechanics and armour/ammo/weapon systems, then port them over to like Factory sized maps

and it'd be like a tdm thing

[eager spire]

personally I don't think the gun mechanics and PVP gameplay of Tarkov are that great in the first place

[slender isle]

I mean I'll check it out cause I will get it for free due to having EOD edition

[honest comet]

not bad

[slender isle]

This is all like what is most likely to happen. All we do know is that we're getting new weapons, new vault weapons, new maps and vehicles etc. We don't really know how many of each we're getting, but with what we've seen recently that is what is most likely to happen.

[spare quest]

what's your source

[slender isle]

What they said in the last dev update: "Each season will be similar in size to what we have here (in S2)." the only thing I've added to there is an extra vault weapons since we've gotten 3 each update since 2.0 (which came with 2)

They also said they were trying for the vehicle rework for 3.0 but I cannot remember where I saw that

Either way, vehicle and class rework is S3 sometime be it 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2

[arctic grove]

oh yeah i remembered the comment about the similar in size to S2 thing

a bit concerning they said it buut we'll see how much content we receive moving forward

[slender isle]

Christmas in retail

Well, retail during Christmas

[rigid blade]

Lol yeah thats definitely up there

Call center is definitely the worst job I ever had. 150 calls a day, 30% of them were assholes, don't recommend it

People are much more bold over the phone than in person. I suppose its similar to keyboard warriors lol

[sour meadow]

is the M14 EBR in portal?

[rigid blade]

If you go to collection and press F, you can see all the other weapons and gadgets in the game

Well f on PC

[sour meadow]

so is it in the game

i don't wanna open the game just to check

[rigid blade]

Your guess is as good as mine lol

[sour meadow]

asking because i'd love for it to be in AOW

[rigid blade]

What game was it from? 3 I think

[sour meadow]

yea

and 4 too but 4 isn't in portal

[rigid blade]

M39 emr is, no m14

[sour meadow]

ah basically the same thing

[rigid blade]

Yeah pretty much the same

[sour meadow]

ugh i just saw the reload animation for it in portal

[rigid blade]

M39 was my favorite gun. Always been a fan of dmr's.

[sour meadow]

portal weapon reload animations are total dog

[rigid blade]

I like sniping but I'm also not gonna camp. Too trash to flick heads hot people lol

[arctic grove]

frfr

[rigid blade]

So dmr is the best of both worlds

[sour meadow]

they look so unfinished

[arctic grove]

M16 reload has no umf

Player just pats the side of the gun

[rigid blade]

Which you'd think modeling weapons you've already made wouldn't be all that hard

[sour meadow]

yea i've never used one before but i doubt the bolt release is that ginger

[rigid blade]

M16 has an easy mag release on the side, tap the button and the mag falls right out

It really is that easy to be fair

[sour meadow]

bruh so many of the portal weapon animations are just recycled from AOW

[arctic grove]

The point is tho that they aren’t good animations

[sour meadow]

like come on

[slender isle]

I’m hoping for the svd in the sniper category as a vault weapon

[sour meadow]

everything is way too shaky

it's like they were trying to copy the realism of mw2019 and failed

[slender isle]

Battlefield has never really had the best animations though let’s be fair

[sour meadow]

i mean they weren't incredible but they weren't this bad

[slender isle]

They’ve always been slightly janky

[bitter skiff]

whats better?

[rigid blade]

Love how they are adding the tracer dart... because we definitely need it. The soflam just wasn't cutting it

[slender isle]

No clue lmao. I honestly don’t pay attention to the animations besides like the sliding vault animation that has plagued the series for a decade

[bitter skiff]

let me play/let me dance

[slender isle]

Silent Rao buff

[bitter skiff]

Let me grind

[sour meadow]

makes me wonder what the animator's backgrounds are

[slender isle]

I mean they did pretty good with the AOW animations, and the animations are serviceable in general

[sour meadow]

AOW is fine

[slender isle]

They just aren’t COD level which is probably never gonna happen

[sour meadow]

but the portal ones are ass

i'm not looking for COD level good

[bitter skiff]

makes me wonder who the backgrounds animators are?

[sour meadow]

idk how they did it with COD but they changed the animation scene with mw2019

[sour meadow]

no i- no

i mean what they previously worked on

if anything

[bitter skiff]

yes-you-yes

you

YOU

[next onyx]

It's because they employed specific people for the animations.

[bitter skiff]

Y-O-U

[sour meadow]

i'm watching bf3 animations and like, they're not incredible, but they're consistently satisfactory

[next onyx]

Not a person that workload would be ridiculous.

[sour meadow]

they hired a strange bunch then i suppose

[next onyx]

Honestly when it comes to animations I couldn't care as long as they're not jank.

As long as it communicates whats happening then sure.

[sour meadow]

it does

but imo it gives off this "we tried to copy mw2019" vibe

[bitter skiff]

The animation dept is internally referred to as "the wiggle gang"

wild wobbles

[sour meadow]

it's like if you tried to reload the gun in real life but someone kept jerking your shoulders or something

[bitter skiff]

you NEED to be restrained

just like real life

monkey on yr back, on the way to attack

see you in the trenches yodel

[sour meadow]

my thoughts exactly

[bitter skiff]

wicked

[wide shore]

Guys

I have come bearing news

Finally!

[sour meadow]

only thing i have tier 1 for is the AK

[wide shore]

I’ve been grinding this Lis T1 since Season 1 started. She’s like the only specialist I’ve used since.

I’m so relieved

[sour meadow]

well i could never do that

i'd die of boredom

[slender isle]

You can rest now

[wide shore]

[slender isle]

I’ve t1d all of the ARs beside the burst, sws, and then 3 specialists

I can’t bring myself to use anything other than the m16 and Mackay atm though

[wide shore]

I don’t have a lot of specialists T1. Just Lis, Falck, Angel, Paik & Boris

Got all the base game weapons except the snipers and the K30

[slender isle]

Not even Mackay?

[wide shore]

I really haven’t used MacKay

I’m not much of a rusher.

[slender isle]

Do him last, you won’t be able to handle the others after getting used to him

[wide shore]

Hence not having the K30 T1

[slender isle]

His strafe speed is crazy

[wide shore]

So I’ve heard

I may try him now that I don’t have to play as Lis anymore

[slender isle]

Sws and GOL are the easiest to t1, then ntw, and then the dxr

Dxr sucks

[wide shore]

I suck ass at sniping. I ain’t even gonna try to T1 them

[slender isle]

Go for like dozer or Casper. They’re harder

[slender isle]

Sws 1 hits within 25m so throw on a red dot and you win at life

[wide shore]

Fuck that I’ve had enough pain.

If I had a dollar for every vehicle destroy that was stolen for me as Lis I’d probably be a millionaire

Or the rocket missing my an inch. Or going through the vehicle somehow

[slender isle]

Going through the vehicle lmao

Had that too many times

[wide shore]

It’s crazy

[slender isle]

Annoys me when it goes through the nightbird

[wide shore]

Yeah, cause they’re hard af to hit as it is

I destroyed choppers way more with the M5

[muted kite]

Is Casper worth playing? I'm real new to the game and Casper warns me with the sensors in the suit

[wide shore]

If you’re a passive player, yeah I’d say so

[muted kite]

Some ppl say Casper sucks so I'm not entirely sure if it's the best option

Alr

[wide shore]

If you like to rush more, MacKay is meta rn

[muted kite]

I haven't figured what I like to do yet

I just go where ever the action is

[wide shore]

New to BF in general? Or just 2042

[muted kite]

First bf I ever playing was bfv so yea I'd say I'm new to the series it's self

Bfv is pain and misery on PC and 2042 is alot easier tbh

[wide shore]

Cause you can dunk on us console plebs with our shitty aim assist.

[muted kite]

Not in breakthrough

[slender isle]

I’d recommend going Angel just due to how much he can do

Infinite ammo etc

[muted kite]

Ammo isn't a problem for me just yet, I die alot I'm tryna look for survivability

[wide shore]

Any of the support specialists are a good shout for new players

[muted kite]

I definitely think it's cuz I'm running into crowds without looking tho

Maybe if I record my deaths I can see what I'm doing wrong

[wide shore]

Survivability I think comes down to learning the maps.

[muted kite]

When I first started I picked a random specialist and it happened to be Casper so now I built a bad habit on relying on his sensors sometimes

[wide shore]

Being where the enemies aren’t. Shooting enemies in the back. That’s how I like to play

[muted kite]

That's exactly what I wanna do

[wide shore]

I always use a motion sensor grenade.

[muted kite]

I just need to figure the maps out

[wide shore]

It is, IMO, vital to staying alive

[muted kite]

Yes my ratios are always 17-19

[wide shore]

With 128p it’s hard to know where everyone is and you can be easily overwhelmed.

[muted kite]

For every kill I get it's a death for me

[wide shore]

Everyone starts somewhere

[muted kite]

Yea

[wide shore]

As long as you’re having fun, who cares about stats

[muted kite]

I think i have 12 hours so far

Ik I'm having fun but I like to see good stats atleast

One game I went 5-20

Idk what I was doing

[wide shore]

Been there

2042 took me the most time to adjust to out of all the games

Maybe it was the crossplay. Or the bad aim assist. Or just how big the maps were. Idk. But it finally clicked eventually

[muted kite]

And don't get me wrong but 105 fov feels like 90

[wide shore]

I play on 90

[muted kite]

It feels very different from bfv

Enemies die faster

[wide shore]

The fov or the game?

Oh, ye

Very different

[muted kite]

All of it

I guess bfv soldiers are made different cuz they handle lots more DMG easier than 2042

[wide shore]

TTK is faster. Movement is faster.

[muted kite]

I hate mobile

It caps everything for me

I feel like bfv movement is better but I do like the slide bouncing on this game

[wide shore]

BFV movement was more grounded

[slender isle]

You could honestly play Rao. He has a hacking ability that can stop vehicles shooting you. Also when you get shot it 3d pings the enemy that shoots you.

[muted kite]

I tried him

The thing is

[wide shore]

Paik too, maybe.

[slender isle]

Paiks a bit too underpowered rn, her ping does nothing

[muted kite]

When I get shot first I tend to lose Casper helps me know someone is near by so I can hunt them faster

[next onyx]

Paik doesn't need a buff.

Last time they did she was broken.

[wide shore]

Fair. I haven’t really used her since her nerf

[muted kite]

Idk how to use spawn beacon or cut my parachute tho

[next onyx]

Wallhacks like that is dumb and shouldn't be changed.

A snap shot is what it should be.

[wide shore]

Way, did you see my photo above?

[next onyx]

If it were.

No. Hang on.

[slender isle]

She was fine as is at launch, but rn the distance she scans at is literally nothing

[next onyx]

Fucking hell cunt I don't have the patience for that.

[wide shore]

Lmao

[next onyx]

It should stay that way.

[wide shore]

It’s been a hell of a grind for sure

I got 12 vehicle destroys with her today though.

[muted kite]

What does mastering specialist do

Does it make them more op?

[wide shore]

Nah. Just gives you T1 gear for them.

And a T1 badge you can put on your playercard

[slender isle]

You get a cool skin and badge

[muted kite]

O

[wide shore]

Funny thing is, I don’t even like Lis’ T1 skin

[slender isle]

I wouldn't mind being able to have a t1 helmet for mackay that isn't his hat

I hate it

[wide shore]

I got a liquidator skin for her that’s like the only outfit I like from her.

[muted kite]

I wish I could play but I'm at my aunt's house for the night since apparently even at the age of 15 I can't stay a night home alone

[wide shore]

The S1 t100 skin was neat. But her shitty tattoos annoyed me.

[muted kite]

Is the scar the best weapon in this game

All the yt vids I watched had scar in top list

[wide shore]

For sure

[muted kite]

I see

I'm using m5 for now

[wide shore]

Would recommend the PBX45 too. Very very good gun

[muted kite]

What level is needed

Btw is there anyways to turn the marksman guns to auto

[wide shore]

That one should be unlocked by default

[muted kite]

Or do I need fast trigger finger

[wide shore]

Only the BSV-M

[muted kite]

Lemme guess level 50

[wide shore]

It was a season 1 weapon. Not sure how you unlock it now

[next onyx]

Lis's tier 1 skin is really nice to be honest.

[muted kite]

Bruh

[next onyx]

Her jacket looks comfv.

[muted kite]

Seasonal weapons

[wide shore]

I don’t like her headgear.

[muted kite]

Come on DICE

[next onyx]

Her headgear is nothing special.

[muted kite]

Oh well

[wide shore]

It looks like her ear got blasted off and is bandaged.

[next onyx]

What does it look like with the burned mask?

You can earn the VSS through set challenges.

[muted kite]

When will new season come out

[wide shore]

You should be able to unlock it.

[next onyx]

2 to 3 weeks.

[muted kite]

Wow

[wide shore]

Not sure, I don’t have the burned skin unfortunately

Although this combo is pretty tight.

[muted kite]

If I unlocked ultimate edition from ea play pro do I have to keep paying the subscription to keep the edition or do I have to buy it again when I fully purchase the game to keep?

Cuz once it's on sale I'm buying it

[eager spire]

...This outfit just makes me think of Raid: WW2. Like the guy that goes "BLAMMO" in a british accent.

[next onyx]

Better combo.

[eager spire]

I can't post a picture of the guy

...i'll send it in DM's

[wide shore]

I’m not too sure. I’d imagine you’d lost the UE stuff

[muted kite]

Oof

[wide shore]

Pretty neat

[next onyx]

I want to own his jacket.

It's an amazing Jacket.

[wide shore]

It is a nice jacket

And you could go around telling people to not be sad

[placid echo]

I like Lis's T1... 'jacket'. I know it's not really a 'jacket' but I forgot the actual name lol

[wide shore]

Windbreaker?

A fellow T1 Lis

I feel your pain

[placid echo]

I actually had a good time T1-ing her

[wide shore]

It took me ages

I just finished tonight

It was easier T1’ing the M5 Recoilless

Her rocket pissed me off so many times.

[muted kite]

Is battle pass able to be bought with bfc?

[placid echo]

Yes

[muted kite]

How much is it

[wide shore]

1000? I think

[muted kite]

Alr

[wide shore]

Or maybe 900

Somewhere around there.

[muted kite]

And battle pass usually comes with good skins right

Cuz that's all I care Abt tbh

[wide shore]

If you can complete them in time, yeah

You can check what’s in there before you buy it

[muted kite]

And how much bfc is obtained per battle pass last question I swear 😂

[wide shore]

I wouldn’t recommend getting the S2 BP. There’s only 3 weeks left.

Should be enough to get the next one

[muted kite]

I already got it since play pro gave 1 year of something idk how it works

[wide shore]

Oh you got the year one pass

[muted kite]

I'm just worried that if I buy base game I will lose it all

[wide shore]

Yeah, I’m not sure how it works

Sorry

[muted kite]

Cuz no way my mom will keep buying it for 16 bucks once my bday money runs out

[wide shore]

You could look around for the gold edition on sale

That comes with the year 1 pass

[muted kite]

Alr

[slender isle]

btw @muted kite the season weapons aren't locked to a season, you can still get them

[muted kite]

Ok thanks for telling me

Btw I noticed there are different battlefield specialist are these usable at all?

[slender isle]

In portal yes

[wide shore]

Yeah if you check the weapons area on the main menu you can probably find the unlock requirements.

[muted kite]

I saw 1942 specialist I think

[wide shore]

They’re usable in portal

[muted kite]

Ohh

[wide shore]

There’s the BC2, BF3 & BF1942 soldiers/guns

As well as maps

[muted kite]

Portal is the community games of 2042?

[wide shore]

Basically

[muted kite]

Alr

[wide shore]

There’s some good stuff in there sometimes

My personal favorites are Conquest of Ages and Rush Chaos

[muted kite]

I like master of arms conquest

[wide shore]

Yeah the new maps are nice.

[slender isle]

I really love rush of ages

[placid echo]

At least Sundance is still the most satisfying way to take out vehicles
https://streamable.com/q3ntgd

[slender isle]

Also, can someone give me the stats on why the ACWR is like the worst weapon to exist?

[muted kite]

I jus don't understand why fps fluctuate so much for me, it's 80-90 sometimes drops to 70 in huge gun fights

[wide shore]

Oh I saw this last time you posted it. It’s crazy

[placid echo]

This was the first time I uploaded this one :p

[wide shore]

I’ve barely played as Sundance. I just don’t really like using them.

[muted kite]

Wow

Idk how to fly with sundance

[wide shore]

Are you sure? I could’ve sworn I’ve seen that before

[muted kite]

It's inverted for me

I hate pressing s to go up

It's inconvenient

[wide shore]

You can probably change that

[placid echo]

I think there was a setting for that?

[muted kite]

Is there?

[placid echo]

I think, I am not sure

[wide shore]

I would imagine there is

[muted kite]

Hopefully

[placid echo]

I do have a shotgun clip from last FNB that I enjoy
https://streamable.com/5zeqxd

[wide shore]

Damn, nice

You got that sick ass 880 skin

[placid echo]

and an AM40 for when 2042 FFA was a thing :p
https://streamable.com/0j8a0e

[muted kite]

niceeee

How do I get attachments faster

[wide shore]

I had one of those dream moments earlier. But unlike Reddit everyone turned around

[placid echo]

Solo/Co-Op is the easiest way to earn attachments.

I find that Breakthrough Stranded gets it done the quickest

[muted kite]

Fr only streamers get these moments

[wide shore]

You can play in solo/co-op and just get kills with the gun you wanna get attachments.

I like BT on orbital for farming. But BT on stranded works too

[muted kite]

Alr

[placid echo]

Orbital Conquest is best for vehicle specs I find

[muted kite]

I kinda wanna fly in this game it's cool

[placid echo]

Just take your vehicle to the middle and shoot everything you see, the AI in your vehicle will help with assists

[muted kite]

Alr

Thanks

[granite island]

However

Don't use a air vehicle when playing with bots

You will not stay in the air longer than 1 min

[plain needle]

Facts

[muted kite]

Yea they don't miss

[plain needle]

Neva neva neva

[muted kite]

I got air sniped by a bot

[plain needle]

Got crossmapped by one one time

[muted kite]

Lol

[plain needle]

That was interesting

[placid echo]

If you fly at a safe height you should be fine, just don't stay still for too long, they don't really lead their shots.

[slender isle]

Okay so the ACWR is only good within 25m, after that it sucks

like actually unable to hit shots sucks

[lunar finch]

I will never understand why theres a cooldown on ur parachute when u cut it

[arctic grove]

ye, theyre pretty strange in general

[arctic grove]

same, sometimes it screws with you too since lets say you jump out of a transport and chute so you dont immediately plummet, but you gotta cut it rq so as not to get sniped, then before you can pull it again you just die

[slender isle]

I just had the recoil take my gun up off my screen almost so that's also a thing that happens

[arctic grove]

was that with the acwr? if so im not suprised since it also does that weird thing where it clips through the characters hands

[slender isle]

Yup

Like the gun is super fun in close ranges

Feels like the AM40 but with shit spread

[arctic grove]

yea hopefully they can tinker with them some more so theyre more fun and tolerable to use

[slender isle]

Gotta give it the m16a3 treatment of making it the best weapon in the game

[errant scarab]

Why battlefield 1 have 33k steam chart

[arctic grove]

the way i put it is 100% of the game is being sold for 5 bucks rn

thats like a cup of coffee, for 100% of one of the best battlefield games, hella guns and maps

ea/dice trying to get back for MW2 rn (not actually, joke, unless)

[novel shadow]

SO. I think I noticed a bug.
If you look at the edit player card and look at badges, scroll to right and you should notice the season pass badges. Since getting to level 100 in this season Ive no longer seen any increase for earning the badge.
Could someone double check for me?

[arctic grove]

those have been broken since S1 and its super annoying

i got gimped out of the s1 badge because of it

[novel shadow]

savage

really wanted it

[errant scarab]

Dude why im playing 2042, bf1 have more players.....

[arctic grove]

i think it just fails to show it update, i dont know if it still works but try going into a portal game if you remember that method during s1

it apparently updates your points

[novel shadow]

tried a bunch of different game modes. ill have to see next week when the new missions are up.

whether or not they apply

[arctic grove]

hmm yea, good luck man

i plan on just stopping as soon as i finish the bp, i cant be asked to care after the disaster of me losing the s1 badge

[novel shadow]

surely if they have our kill count from day one, they can figure it out. i mean itll be a pain in the arse.

[arctic grove]

i actually think they doubled the bp weekly challenge points, that might help if youre getting close to it already

[slender isle]

Oh its mercury, please just like go away

[slender isle]

Crawford skin is bad ass though

A lil reward for finishing the season

[arctic grove]

true, its pretty cool

[dapper river]

[edgy oriole]

did you kill him

[errant scarab]

ea put 2042 1 week free

[next onyx]

Burn baby burn.

[arctic grove]

?

Are you asking or saying they did, I guess it would make sense to say you’re asking but I’m confused

[errant scarab]

requesting

a way for them to test the game since it is much more stable

[arctic grove]

Ah

[mild crystal]

Whats the latest on 2042

[eager spire]

there's nothing right now.

[next onyx]

Flashback BT if you want breakthrough on Africa and noshahr.

But that's about it.

[quaint vector]

Africa...

Uganda Breakthrough

[next onyx]

Yeah my AC is complete bullshit.

[quaint vector]

I played BT on Arica, and my Team isntantly lost, like always

[fiery dawn]

BT on Arica was the game I got 67 kills with the ACR right after I upgraded from a 980 to a 3080 lmao

was still pain tho

[next onyx]

On my first game on it on bt I got a hundy bomb.

It's good fun.

But there is a consensus that it is biased towards defence.

[dapper river]

Yeah arica without dedicated attack vehicles is basically impossible against defenders who have at least a couple braincells

[next onyx]

Considering the lis spam too.

It's fucked.

[neon iris]

Anyone else getting really bad lag again?

I'm getting super bad stuttering and internet issues

[robust ember]

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[slender isle]

You can sit inside those inpenetrable bunkers on the second sector of Arica. Like those garages underneath. They’re in the obj as well

[toxic wigeon]

Ngl breakthrough Africa really fun on attacking

If your team tries

And doesn’t camp all day

[queen violet]

Lmao.. 100% 😂😂😂😂 thats the battlefield team right now ..

[upbeat sand]

I think lis might need a cool-down/reload speed nerf

[tame cobalt]

👄

[proud pond]

I’m gay lol

[still vault]

Yeah, just keep this about 2042

[fading wharf]

i cant believe my extern 2tb hdd from seagate have 150mbs i have been playing on 150mbs for months, now i cant wait for a 1tb 3500 mbs SSD

[still vault]

SSDs are great. Especially in games as big as Battlefield with quite long loading screens

[fading wharf]

IKR!!! but there are so many ssd, 2400 mbs, 3500mbs, 7000mbs

2400mbs and 3500mbs will do fine

[arctic grove]

When you load into a map is your gun also invisible along with your gadgets and players for a few moments?

[still vault]

Have not noticed that, but probably depends on how fast your system can load it from the drive to the memory of the GPU.

[arctic grove]

I played for all of 1st season on an HDD. If someone says their guns or player models are not loading it would be safe to assume they are likely on an HDD. I never had a game where the gun didn’t load while starting a new map on an HDD.

I would feel more confident in saying that if castel would confirm it as well ☺️

[shy latch]

does anyone find out a way to set screen resolution with borderless selected?

[slender isle]

Okay I have a quick question: would you guys rather have 128 players, or 80 players with 48 AI?

[shy latch]

none of both, I would prefer 64 players

[slender isle]

Yeah but I won’t lie to you, 64p feels really bad after 128p on orbital or exposure. The reason people don’t like 128 is cause of the like delay and stuff. So getting rid of 48 players and running AI would fix that (seeing as the solo modes run 10000% better than the actual servers)

(Obviously my opinion on the 128p thing)

[shy latch]

mmh no, actually I don't like 128p because you are shot literally from everywhere, especially when the enemy faction "walks" in group going to an objective and you find them you become a gruyere

[slender isle]

Yeah no shit lmao, you as a single person isn’t gonna take out 32 players coming towards you let alone 64. I find orbital, exposure, and renewal to be pretty good for literally every play style

You wanna know the game I do get shot at from everywhere on? Battlefield 1

[shy latch]

BF1 I didn't play properly (the mp) and I did it for a very small amount of time, I can barely remember some things but can't say any opinion

but I can remember at the beginning people were complaining about soldiers movements because "at the time they didn't move in that way"......

[eager spire]

probably cause sliding used to be a lot more effective

and people hated that cause "MUH REALISM"

Personally i think those people can go pound sand.

BF is never a totally realistic game, it's a large scale arcade shooter, and BF1 just happens to be themed around WW1.

[shy latch]

exactly, I still don't understand why majorities appropriates battlefield as a realistic/simulator game

[eager spire]

it's cause most of those people are console players and as such don't get the proper realistic/simulation games because those kind of games just don't work on a controller.

[shy latch]

I mean, there is ballistic, there are vehicles and aircrafts, but that's not synonymous of realism

[eager spire]

but unfortunately DICE listened to these whiners and nerfed sliding so there was a cooldown that took in effect if you tried to slide immediately after doing a slide. And then they nerfed it again to where it is now where it's so slow that it's genuinely not even worth using.

[mental delta]

Because there's a misinterpretation, people take immersion for realism

[prisma anvil]

true

[mental delta]

Embark

[eager spire]

Like genuinely there is no good reason to use sliding in BF1, the nerfs made the only unique movement option in the game worthless because the "MUH IMMERSION" people didn't like it being good.

[prisma anvil]

bonjour

[mental delta]

Bonsoir cher ami 🥖🍷

[prisma anvil]

where's the cheese?

[mental delta]

🧀🥐*

My bad

[prisma anvil]

merci

[mental delta]

De rien !

[prisma anvil]

and thats the limit of my french

[shy latch]

[eager spire]

like i think BF1 being less focused on "immersion" and more on good gameplay would've been really good for it, and would've allowed it to have a lasting legacy beyond "it looks good"

because really, that's all anyone talks about with BF1. They talk about how good it looks but they don't talk about the gameplay at all. because there's not much to talk about.

[slender isle]

Guns that don’t shoot straight and movement that feels sloppy… good vehicles though. Planes and behemoths are still fun

[prisma anvil]

again, you gotta see, 1's gameplay wasnt the best, but was for the most part, fun, other than that aspect, nearly everything else they nailed to perfection, okay, maybe the community aspect they kinda fucked up as well, but still, they still got so much right, thats its no wonder that 1's remembered fondly

[shy latch]

immersion is something personal imo, someone says "BF4 is more immersive than 2042", honestly I never felt all this immersion on BF4 nor BF3

[eager spire]

BF1 is only remembered fondly for it's aesthetics.

[prisma anvil]

sound design

ui fluidity

dogtags and medals system

[eager spire]

sound design is a part of aesthetics, UI is worse than BF4's in terms of customizability, i don't know anyone who ever bothered with the dogtags in BF1

[prisma anvil]

a lot of people did bother with the tags,

it was fun, even the ones who didnt bother much, they could atleast see their tags and see enemy tags

[eager spire]

I didn't, mainly because I don't like the menu UI that BF1 had, and i doubly don't like that that UI spread and infected BF4, BFH, and BFV.

[slender isle]

Wait there’s dog tags in bf1?

[eager spire]

SEE

[prisma anvil]

yes, many

[eager spire]

DO YOU SEE

[prisma anvil]

i mean, thats one

[eager spire]

Also the server browser is blatantly inferior to Battlelog, a maximum of 100 servers being shown at once, really?

[prisma anvil]

i mean, people did complain a lot about battlelog as well, i get now that at the end, it was a good system

[eager spire]

Battlelog is gods compared to the new BF UI that was introduced with BF1.

[prisma anvil]

but i think they wanted a single application, simplicity and ease of use, especially since they heavily targetted the console community

[next onyx]

To be honest server browser on console back at 3 was subline.

[prisma anvil]

i wouldnt know about that sadly

i'll take your word on it

[next onyx]

It didn't do anything special but it was just good.

[prisma anvil]

alteast games till 2042 had a browser

the browser is just such a nice tool to have

[chilly jacinth]

it was good in bf3 and bf4

and even hardline

[prisma anvil]

what did they really change from 3/4's browser to 1's browser?

[eager spire]

I like having a browser, it's just that the browser in the new BF UI is so gimped that i don't even like using it. Displaying a max of 100 servers is really annoying

[last swift]

Bring back platoons and custom logos 🙂

[robust ember]

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[eager spire]

?