battlefield-2042

[limpid pond]

100% I loved that gun. Very rewarding close range

[tepid agate]

Twisted steel was a good one just a little bigger.

[wide shore]

St Quentin Scar

[slender isle]

Orbital the best imo

[devout flare]

best 2042 map is orbital

rn

[limpid pond]

Yeah renewal got stale for me

Orbital is fun

[devout flare]

best bfv map was hamada breakthrough

in my humble opinion

god that is an epic breakthroug map

[tepid agate]

Exposure and orbital are the top 2 maps

[limpid pond]

I loved conquest narvik

[limpid pond]

Yeah I still love breakaway. Something about snow maps for me man

[tepid agate]

Nah the one after Narvik so many planes on top of that mountain lol

[devout flare]

i am an an infantry main... but i usually dont like pure infantry maps. hamada was perfect for me

[limpid pond]

Yeah tbh the planes did get annoying

[next onyx]

Yeah that's a bit of a hard question then. I'm more infantry biased so Seinne crossing, Rotterdam, Devastation, Amiens, etc were the best mixed maps.
Vehicle centric? Mmmhhh I cannot answer because they're often just open fields with little cover for the vehicles.

[devout flare]

devestation

god i loved that one too

[limpid pond]

Hamada was good. As an infantry main myself the second favorite map was underground

[next onyx]

Orbital and Renewal though are the better 2042 maps.

[devout flare]

best conquest

[tepid agate]

Even aerodrome is a great imo.

[limpid pond]

The train map was so fucking good imo

[wide shore]

Out of all the games I’ve played:

BC1: Oasis, BC2: Panama Canal, BF3: Seine Crossing, BF4: Zavod, BF1: St Quentin Scar, BFV: Devastation, BF2042: New Orbital

I skipped hardline cause I barely played that game.

[next onyx]

Downtown was good.

The block.

[limpid pond]

I can agree with everything after bf4 except 5. Narvik still my fave

[next onyx]

Uh, Growhouse.

Bank job.

[devout flare]

new orbital is lowkey a really good map. especialt for conquest

i will give dice that

[limpid pond]

Yep 100%

[wide shore]

Bank Job is really one of the only ones I remember

[devout flare]

i genuinly love it

[next onyx]

"THATS A BIG FUCKING HOLE IN THE GROUND"

[limpid pond]

New orbital conquest on d flag is just free kills

Just murder people as they come up the hill

[tepid agate]

Nothings going to beat tank hunting with lundge mines and friends. Running last ditch to blow them up. Same with bayonet charges.

[devout flare]

D is fun because you can rotate to different points after you win or lose

its like a king of the hill point surrounded by other spawn points

[foggy halo]

I have no “best map” just favorite maps

[limpid pond]

Yeah I normally head down to b I believe it is toward the skyscraper

Or maybe it's c

[devout flare]

renewal is 2042s best breakthrough

[next onyx]

Would you say they're your favourite due to how they play?

[devout flare]

it flows best

[tepid agate]

I think 2042 came with "which map do I hate more" than which one I like more 😆

[limpid pond]

Renewal breakthrough is so stale. You can only drop so many high kill games on that map before you get bored imo

[devout flare]

breakwaway

even tho its the map i have the highest kill game on... i still despise it

[limpid pond]

I would have to go with manifest

[tepid agate]

4x bigger than Hamada and Hamada is big enough lol

[next onyx]

2042's maps made bf5's worst maps look good.

[limpid pond]

Manifest bt new version sucks

I miss 128 bt Manifest

[devout flare]

manifest is one of my fav rush maps

[limpid pond]

Rush I can see it on. For breakthrough it was only good imo if it was 128 players

[devout flare]

i miss BT 128

it was sooo fun

[next onyx]

Can't say I miss BT 128.

Due to how little I played it.

Was just pure frustration.

[tepid agate]

Music is also great on bfV when the round is ending. Same for bf1. Something about the tune that motivates you to ptfo and capture

[devout flare]

PKP meta BT 128

those were the dayhs

[foggy halo]

I agree that Amiens were really good. What about fort de vaux?

[wide shore]

Orbital
Manifest
Stranded
Kaleidoscope
Renewal
Discarded
Exposure
Hourglass
Breakaway

That’s how I’d rank em

[copper fulcrum]

If they just added Breakthrough to portal, people might stop whining about the removal of BT128

[wide shore]

Gawd me too. At least they feature Rush chaos a lot.

[copper fulcrum]

or at least complain a little less

[devout flare]

why is kaleidescope so high

[tepid agate]

I think the big tornado in 2042 would be great if it was more dangerous instead of being used as a transport device. Like if you go in it you die

[next onyx]

You know I really can't speak about Fort de vaux. I played it a lot but I never felt strongly for it.

[wide shore]

I love Fort De Vaux

[next onyx]

I dunno. I just never cared for it.

[tepid agate]

Exposure that low? I think that became the most played 2042 map lol best in my opinion

[foggy halo]

I liked the screams inside the fort lmao

[next onyx]

Bf1 fire scream was good.

[wide shore]

My favorite indoor BF map

[devout flare]

exposure is only good as a conquest map tho

[tepid agate]

2042 soldiers make no sound when grandest are beside them

[wide shore]

I don’t care for it much. Tbf though I mainly play 128cq

[foggy halo]

I played inside the fort specifically just for the screams

[wide shore]

I like it

[tepid agate]

Are you comparing exposure to the launch maps or to the reworks? Big difference because reworks made them bettwrb

[devout flare]

base game it was one of the better maps... but i feel like its fallen off since reworks

[wide shore]

That list is as the maps are right now

[tepid agate]

Ok

[wide shore]

Cause at launch Manifest was my fav. But new orbital rules

[devout flare]

new orbital is 100% a good map. it just feels right

[tepid agate]

Actually how many maps do the have in the game now? I think it launched with 6-8?

[limpid pond]

I agree 100%

[wide shore]

It was already one of the better maps

[devout flare]

BT could flow better

but conquest is amazing

[limpid pond]

New orbital is top tier 100%

[wide shore]

Launched with 7. There’s 9 now

[limpid pond]

Conquest is good. I recently started playing cause way said to so I did

Pretty good tbh

[next onyx]

it feels like the launch pad is a side objective than the main one ironically.

Just doesn't play like shit.

And it's just fun.

[wide shore]

The added cover is very nice too

[tepid agate]

Well, it's always about quality over quantity, just a little behind schedule

[devout flare]

im pretty excited for all the base game maps to get reworked

theyve done a great job so far

[limpid pond]

Yeah I feel like if people kinda just tried to stick with dice since the dev team behind this game are new and its their first time on the bf engine then we could have had a great game

[devout flare]

its amazing what a little cover and some terrain variation does for a map

[wide shore]

I’m just curious what they’re gonna do to manifest since it’s already kinda great

[foggy halo]

I like orbital because of how it looks with all the green, especially on the side

[limpid pond]

Probably throw some stuff in that area by a1

On breakthrough

[devout flare]

after seeing how the new MW game plays im good sticking with BF tbh

if it was anything like MW2019 id be done with this gmae rn

[limpid pond]

I agree. No movement just turned me off

[devout flare]

yup

Bf2042 movement actually feels fun

[foggy halo]

If dice made badass looking uniforms with 2042’s graphics that would have been awesome

[limpid pond]

I played cod for the past 3 years and the first two were for a comp team

[devout flare]

MW looks like R6 seige movement

im good

[copper fulcrum]

It's funny how CoD went from jump spamming and drop-shotting to very slowly moving gun-fights

[limpid pond]

The no movement is cool just don't enable campers

Mw2 is just kids camping or preauming every corner

[copper fulcrum]

But hey at least literally every single movement has thousands upon thousands of gun-shaking in MW2

[tepid agate]

Yeah if they launched the game in its current state, with these map reworks, it would get more positive reviews. Sure there may still be complaints about the lack of content at launch with the number count of weapons currently, specialists and no naval combat but overall it's more polished.

[devout flare]

its like they looked at tarkov movement and were like "people like this game, lets be more like that"

Nobody wants CoD for realism... why the fuck go for realism. i want CoD to be arcady and fun

[copper fulcrum]

I still think Naval Combat is shit and only looks cool

[devout flare]

if i wanted realism id play sandstorm

[copper fulcrum]

Except the guns in Sandstorm actually feel satisfying to fire

Not to mention decapitation without needing fucking blueprints

[foggy halo]

I don’t like the size and scale of the maps, and I think that a lot of others don’t like it too. I think it’s a mistake that shouldn’t be repeated

[limpid pond]

You can only do so much in the new cod. I also feel scared to push fights knowing someone is gonna probably be preaim

[foggy halo]

Very hard to maneuver in a vehicle map as inf

[devout flare]

BF is a game i go to for fun scenarios, casual gameplay, and large scale warfare.

[copper fulcrum]

I still can't get over the over the top weapon shaking and bobbing that MW2 has

[devout flare]

CoD is for arcady deathamtch

and other games are for tactical fps experiences

thats how it should be

[limpid pond]

Exactly

Cod is meant to be fast paced fighting

[copper fulcrum]

I got Quake for that

[tepid agate]

2042 is becoming more fast paced

[copper fulcrum]

and that's fine

[limpid pond]

Yeah that's fine with me.

[devout flare]

2042 is def scratching the fast paced gunfight itch for me

[wide shore]

When I tried warzone I felt the same way. The visual recoil was insane

[devout flare]

mackay almost makes me feel like im playing apex

[limpid pond]

Yeah since cod doesn't have it

[devout flare]

i do really enjoy it

[tepid agate]

Of course it will suit some but Devs need to listen to the masses

[copper fulcrum]

Not just the recoil, but running, walking and just moving in general

[limpid pond]

When advanced warfare 2 comes out ill end up playing cod again

[wide shore]

Felt super slow after playing 2042. Very sluggish.

[limpid pond]

Jetpacks were my prime years. Add another jetpack game and I might go pro

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly, when Advanced Warfare 2 comes out they should just go super insane with gun-smith

[copper fulcrum]

I mean the animations on the gun during movements

[limpid pond]

Nah don't even add gunsmith

[copper fulcrum]

You just flail your arms everywhere in MW2

[limpid pond]

Keep it the way it was but remove blueprints and add back the classic 12 attachments

[wide shore]

People can fault 2042 for a lot of things. And a lot of it is fair. But the movement and gunplay is great.

Maybe not BFV great. But still great

[copper fulcrum]

BFV's gunplay felt great but with it being spread based recoil, I prefer 2042's 'actual' gunplay if that makes sense

[devout flare]

movement is better than bfv if you know what your doing

but bfv looked better

the slides were sooooo cool

[foggy halo]

Pacific storm

[limpid pond]

Bf5 movement was smoother is all. Bf 2042 movement can be great if you know how to play right. Only issue is hit reg for corners

I can't tell you how many times I go behind a corner and run 10 feet then die

[wide shore]

I just liked all the contextual animations. Being thrown from explosives, the roll to avoid fall damage, laying on all sides, leaning around corners.

[slender isle]

Sliding was like you were on the moon just floating over everything

[wide shore]

Crouch sprint

[fiery dawn]

desync

[foggy halo]

Mercury was good too, better than all of the maps in bf2042

[limpid pond]

Yeah I get it alot

[fiery dawn]

me too

[limpid pond]

It's pretty bad tbh

[fiery dawn]

it's awful

[devout flare]

TTK is bfv and 2042 is too fast... but im so used to it now

[limpid pond]

I can actually run 10 feet behind cover and still fie

[devout flare]

bf1 and 4 had better TTK

[limpid pond]

True

[wide shore]

Ehhhh. Idk about that. Mercury is cool, but it’s not amazing IMO

[limpid pond]

Ttk is kinda fast

[devout flare]

i like that its fast when i flank and get 5-10 kills with an LMG tho

[limpid pond]

I feel like ttk is good for smgs at close range but should be longer for ars at cqb

[fiery dawn]

Yeah it's also bad in MWII sometimes. I'll see exactly where I died on my screen and then watch the kill-cam and it'll look like I'm in a totally different spot

[limpid pond]

Irl if I have a brugger and you have a scar I'm getting 10 shots off by the time you get 2

[fiery dawn]

So you can see how it doesn't look sus at all on their screen

But for me I was already completely behind cover

[copper fulcrum]

Mercury was meh

I prefer Marita over that one

or Arras for that matter

[limpid pond]

I only get that if I lag in mw. Normally I'm actually behind cover on their screen in the shoot in my direction and I die

[devout flare]

Marita was fun

[fiery dawn]

oh yeah there's that too

[devout flare]

Outpost Marita is a jam too

[copper fulcrum]

Marita didn't have Outpost, Mercury did

[wide shore]

Outpost was hella fun

Absolute chaos

[copper fulcrum]

But to be fair I understand the confusion

[devout flare]

marita did

[wide shore]

Marita didn’t have outpost. I’m almost 99% sure

[devout flare]

ooooh no mercury

[fiery dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQjc_8ucxWA

mwii movement is really good guys dont listen to the haters

i swear

[devout flare]

mercury outpost is fun sorry

lol

[fiery dawn]

the delusion

[wide shore]

Pacific Storm was god tier

[copper fulcrum]

One of my biggest complaints about BFV is the lack of actual transport vehicles

You get Half-Tracks and maybe a plane will for some reason equip the Paratroop spawn point instead of bombs

and only one plane gets that too

for one faction

[devout flare]

eww

[wide shore]

The whole pacific DLC was perfect.

[copper fulcrum]

Pacific Storm becomes a better map when there's an actual storm

[next onyx]

Blenheim mk1.

And then there's the radio beacon.

[devout flare]

Iwo Jima Bt was sooo immersive

[copper fulcrum]

Which only worked for the squad

[next onyx]

Radio beacon was not popular because it meant giving up on emergency repair.

[copper fulcrum]

and it broke when it got close to the ground

[next onyx]

And the A6m5 and the Corsair 1c were dog fighters.

The g6 got it as well at least.

[copper fulcrum]

Basically no real reason to use the beacon unless you tell your squad about it as you place it

[next onyx]

It worked FINE but as a whole was passed over for better upgrades.

[copper fulcrum]

It should've been team spawn but with a delay to compensate for that

One member can spawn on it every 5 seconds maybe

[next onyx]

The pathfinder spec worked on it at leastr.

Oh god.

I completely forgot about that.

The fact you can spawn on OTHER spawn beacons.

That was amazing.

[copper fulcrum]

Good luck finding people who used spawn beacons or even used pathfinder

I would only get like 1 "Team Spawned on Beacon" points for like 5 matches

[next onyx]

It was more useful than the sniper combat role at least.

Not like you lost anything running it anyways.

[copper fulcrum]

It was more useful yes

[slender isle]

Maybe we should give Casper that as a passive

Or just a new recon specialist with that

[copper fulcrum]

Casper already gets his motion sensor

and since the RAM gets a team spawn beacon and there's actual transports that anyone can spawn on, I don't see Pathfinder being a useful passive

[slender isle]

New recon dude with a super motion sensor as a gadget, who can spawn on all spawn beacons

[slender isle]

You gotta remember that spawn beacons will be a passive gadget now

So all recon players get it

So pathfinder will be like super useful

[next onyx]

I do have a big concern with every carrying a spawn beacon.

If they made the tracking dart forced there'd be more of a competition.

[slender isle]

I just like it cause no more Mackay spawn beacon

[tepid agate]

Are spawn beacons also being class locked in season 3?

[next onyx]

Yes.

[slender isle]

Passive gadget for recon specialists

[next onyx]

They're being made a essential gadget for recon.

[slender isle]

Always equipped

[next onyx]

I don't know why I'm saying Essential but yes.

[tepid agate]

Ah good. Who are they? Casper, rao and .... The Asian girl? (Forgot her name)

[next onyx]

Paik.

[tepid agate]

Ah those 3 are recon

Battlefield vibes finally coming back. An exciting season for me

[slender isle]

Yes those 3. Just like how engineer are getting repair tool and assault med pen. Then support are getting defibs, but idk what that means

[limpid pond]

How you forget paik

Paik is the baby girl

[tepid agate]

Med pen not reall good

[limpid pond]

Defibulaters are basically those pulse shockers that people yell out clear with then zap the person

[limpid pond]

I only run med pens. They're too good imo

[tepid agate]

So support is falck, angel and the new bald specialist?

[slender isle]

I know that, but they already have them

[slender isle]

Support for the class rework will be Irish, falk, and Angel

[limpid pond]

Yeah that's true.

[slender isle]

Crawford (new dude) is being moved to engineer

[tepid agate]

Irish??? But I though the bald specialist can revive anyone?

[limpid pond]

Guess I better start mining falck again

Maining

[slender isle]

Yeah, new dude is being moved to engineer

[limpid pond]

Sounds smart

[slender isle]

In replacement of Crawford

[limpid pond]

He has a mounted minigun

[tepid agate]

Is he still able to revive anyone or they take they perk away and give it to Irish?

[limpid pond]

Irish has a trophy and a wall

[slender isle]

Give it to Irish

[limpid pond]

Pretty good for support if you throw ut down and res

[tepid agate]

That's good

[limpid pond]

Yeah I like the idea of it

[slender isle]

Crawford will get some other perk thing. Irish gets Crawford gadget refill when reviving perk

[limpid pond]

I say the new dev team are making good changes

I just hope they release a sas skin for Falco

Falck

[tepid agate]

Who is the third assualt? Crawford, Mackey and?

[limpid pond]

Or a Russian milsim skin

[limpid pond]

Sundance

[slender isle]

Crawford is engineer. Assault is Mackay, Sundance, and dozer

[tepid agate]

So what is Liz?

[limpid pond]

Lis boris and Crawford are enguneer

[slender isle]

Engineer

[tepid agate]

Ah ok

[limpid pond]

Rao paik and Casper are recon

Just were they gonna group the new specialist

[slender isle]

Probably engineer lmao

[limpid pond]

Surely bf 2042 gets support until season 6

[tepid agate]

So recon get spawn beacons
Engineer get repair tools
Assualt get med pens
Support get defibs

[tepid agate]

No way lol

[limpid pond]

Casper skins are pretty good tbh

Surely they will

No chance they just drop possible revenue

If they see good numbers from s3 they 100% keep support

[tepid agate]

I'm sure bfV makes more money for them than 2042

[limpid pond]

No doubt

[slender isle]

Yup

[limpid pond]

Doubtful bf5 is f2p on ea play

[tepid agate]

But you can buy currency in-store to get skins

[limpid pond]

No one really is buying skins for bf5

Most I ever bought were the burnt skins because the Gass masks

[tepid agate]

I never bought any just grind them

[slender isle]

BfV arguably has had less overall revenue compared to 2042 just due to bfV terrible “don’t buy it if you don’t want to” stuff

[slender isle]

You got the Sundance one for 2042?

[limpid pond]

Yeah bf5 at launch was like 2042

[limpid pond]

Nah because I don't play as her

[slender isle]

Worse cause it had less sales

[tepid agate]

If more players continue to play older titles over 2042 by the time the 1 year pass is done I can't see them spending more time to continue

[next onyx]

Bf5 enjoyed a more stable launch than 2042.

[limpid pond]

I was thinking about getting it but I'm not playing as Sundance

Stable yes but launch was still bad

[next onyx]

I could focus on the content and stuff not the technical issues.

[limpid pond]

That's also coming from a consistent dev team that has worked on some of the best titles

[tepid agate]

Launch for bfV wasn't that bad they just had so much "coming soon" in the store. Even for the campaign

[limpid pond]

2042 dev team was brand new with no help

[tepid agate]

Bombers were so op at launch lol crazy

[next onyx]

Launch bombers.

[limpid pond]

When the store for bf 2042 update?

[tepid agate]

Let's see if the numbers surpass bf1 and bfV first

[limpid pond]

I want this damn legendary pbx skin already

I've waited like 2 months almost

[tepid agate]

I haven't spent any currency so far nothing interesting for me

[limpid pond]

I'm pretty sure sales surpassed but they gad alot of refunds too

I buy the battle pass cause they give 300 extra boins if you complete it

[tepid agate]

Hell yea they had more sales it was the most hyped game of the year!

[slender isle]

It sold almost the same amount of bfV in the first year within the first month from “reports”

[limpid pond]

Yeah then hype turned to sadness

[tepid agate]

You should watch the launch trailer

[limpid pond]

I did lol

I pre ordered

[tepid agate]

It has the best comment of Battlefield

"it's like watching your parents wedding video after the got divorced"

[slender isle]

I preordered and still enjoy the game lmao

Since launch too

[tepid agate]

If only the masses where that way so many wanted refunds lol

[slender isle]

I don’t see why (on my end) I’ve had the game be perfectly in the technical sense for my entire time owning it

[tepid agate]

I pre-ordered. I'm over the sadness though

[limpid pond]

I'm over it too

Yeah I enjoy it too but

[tepid agate]

I'm not going into the "why" lol they have cleaned up a lot of the problems over the year

[limpid pond]

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Au5FxnMvHpBkiHyBDaUzcDyOf0zI

I never enjoyed this

[errant scarab]

When next patch

[slender isle]

Again, never had this lmao

[slender isle]

2 weeks mercury, swear I told you this 3 days ago

[tepid agate]

Never was you there at launch?? Lol

[limpid pond]

It happened so much to everyone I'm so surprised you didn't get it

[slender isle]

I honestly never had a problem with it

[limpid pond]

I legit think she's and ai

[tepid agate]

My worst momory was rooftop objectives on breakthrough 😆 like who in the hell agreed that was a good idea it's like a 99% chance defenders win

[slender isle]

The only problems I’ve had were the revive glitch, weird floating elevators, and the laser sights

[tepid agate]

You're that 1 in a million

[limpid pond]

Tried telling me bf 2042 was easy and she had an 8kd so I asked for Stat proof and she said no

[tepid agate]

If your foot touched an object you couldn't be revived lol

[slender isle]

That’s the one I mean lmao

[limpid pond]

The top player in the world has a 5.2 kd

[slender isle]

I know a dude in my region with a 6.2

Annoys the fuck outta me when he plays

[tepid agate]

Could be easy. When the game was super low numbers like 1k on Steam servers were full of ai

[limpid pond]

Vehicle spam?

[slender isle]

Maybe

He mains the nightbird lmao

[limpid pond]

Nah she plays alot from what I see. 100% a bot

Night bird is a crutch tbh

[tepid agate]

I think I still have more assists than kills.in 2042 during up to sl 80 something

[limpid pond]

Assists are easy to get

I average like 50 a game with pauk

Pauk

Paik

Especially on stranded

Just scan everyone

[tepid agate]

I forgot how to check in stats

[limpid pond]

Go into game and go over to profile

Then click rt on controller

[tepid agate]

No I mean in this server #stats

[limpid pond]

Wdym

#stats

I think you gotta connect to tracker network

You which pbx skins looks better

[tepid agate]

I used to be able to do it but haven't in a while I forgot lol I'll check through the tracker

[limpid pond]

The legendary one that's coming out will be 100% the best

I legit love the stock on it

[tepid agate]

Okay I'm S75

Kills: 13,045
Assists: 13,106

[errant scarab]

And?

[tepid agate]

Remember?

[limpid pond]

I got 28427 kills and 11131 assists

That number will be 40k by next week

[tepid agate]

Wow what's your hours playing?

[limpid pond]

Let me check

[tepid agate]

Tracker says I'm on 338 lol

I'm just here to assist players with my stats 😄

[limpid pond]

Whatever 13 days is

315 hours

[tepid agate]

Sweet

[limpid pond]

Yeah I played for like 3 months from launch then played comp vanguard them picked up bf again last month

[tepid agate]

I don't think I'll ever get to my bf1, BF4 and bfV time I clocked over 1k hours in all of them but I just do missions for 2042 then go back to older titles

[limpid pond]

I have 267h in breakthrough alone

I have like 4k hours in titanfall 2

[tepid agate]

Sweet Jesus I don't have that time lol

[limpid pond]

Only game I spent the most time on but it's also been out for 7 years

I still play it decently often

[tepid agate]

I'm captain of a football team so need time and energy to exercise consistently 😆

[limpid pond]

I have a job but I'm also only 21

[white geyser]

I don't remember how many hours I played titanfall 2, but I spend my time playing as the tone titan

[tepid agate]

Yeah same I work 6 days a week

[limpid pond]

I loved tone. Favorite titan was ion.

I maxed aegis rank on all titans 5 years ago

Frontier defense was a breeze

I have more time as a pilot in titafall 2 though

[white geyser]

I max my tone titan in frontier defense and unlock other ability

[limpid pond]

I actually almost beat the record for kills back when titanfall 2 was active. I dropped 79 and the highest was 81. Then the highest became 105

I love titanfall 2 man

My #1 favorite game

Then comes starwars battlefront 2 2006 version

Yo if I do say so though xbox has the best color ways for controllers

[upbeat sand]

skin sale when

last one was the purple lis

[glossy storm]

Please tell me this is also going to be an actual map: https://www.instagram.com/p/CkYE2bssvjg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[limpid pond]

Maybe maybe not. I heard the new map is gonna be a snow based map set at night

[glossy storm]

Welp, here's me keeping hopes up for a proper urban map.

And that fire-based one.

[limpid pond]

I got urban map like orbital?

A good*

[next onyx]

❤️

[limpid pond]

Just has a random player I've never met before shoot me in the back then proceed to tbag me

Weird

Conquest players are trash

[upbeat sand]

i think i had that person before

[upbeat sand]

it might just be only for the skin bundle but hopefully

[slender isle]

It does look nighttime in the pic

The name “lightsout” could allude to the smoke blocking all sunlight from coming in

[glossy storm]

I can't believe Reznov betrayed the CoD universe and joined BF instead.

[glossy storm]

T-baggers are trash in general.

[limpid pond]

Oh nah I only tbag someone if I shit on them but he shot me in my back

But even then I don't tbag

You have to be hunting me down and if I shit on you I tbag

[copper rock]

T bagging is socially acceptable.

[last swift]

[limpid pond]

Nothing wrong with it. Just he literally shot me from behind. I was fighting someone else

[last swift]

Why not? It's an EZ kill

[fiery dawn]

so an ez kill is t-bag worthy?

yikes

[limpid pond]

Damn I forgot how fun falck was

Just dropped most kills with most revives and most caps

57 and 11 with 17 revives and 14 caps

Major w

[limpid pond]

That's what you call a bot

Because they can't get the kill any way else

[wide flume]

BF2042 losing it big time. MW2 all over the social media

But i still choose bF

[eager spire]

eh, MW2 is all over social media because it's a very polarizing game.

it's also not very good.

[copper rock]

I would say it has a lot more entertainment value than 2042. I own both.

[naive sandal]

Find bf2042 to be far more enjoying... Although kudos to the cod team for releasing a game that's not plagued with bugs

[eager spire]

I donno, comparing the two, i think 2042 is the better FPS game, MW2 is kind of just a game made for the most stereotypical of casual gamers, absolutely no depth to it at all.

[next onyx]

@low timber VCAR is fucking stupid.

It's good but fuck me is it stupid.

[low timber]

[next onyx]

I'm winning gunfights I should not.

Close combat ammo is all you need.

[low timber]

Past 40m you should use standard though

[next onyx]

True but it doesn't suck without it.

[low timber]

Do you use short barrel or a muzzle?

[next onyx]

Tac comp.

[low timber]

Same as me then

[upbeat sand]

i find close combat a bit useless so i mainly use standard

[eager spire]

i still don't understand why the VCAR exists as a DMR

I thought it was a PDW

[upbeat sand]

well it isnt auto so

[slender isle]

Way you are just cracked out though

[low timber]

Your sight option disturbs me.

[slender isle]

That’s the best sight wym?

[next onyx]

I'm a VCAR whore now.

[low timber]

Road to T1

[shy latch]

I really would like that DICE keeps 64p game mode on instead of one week yes and one week no 😔

[next onyx]

Going from 32 to 128 make me realise how bad the mouse input is.

[shy latch]

to my experience, almost everything is bad on 128; I realized that 64 atm is still the ideal from every point of view

and last year I was so excited about the idea of 128 players in a server....

maybe we are not ready yet

[ancient peak]

People get sensory overload from 128 players it seems

[eager spire]

friendly reminder that DICE tested BF3 with 128+ players and determined that it was just not fun, along with being demanding on the servers, so they didn't pursue it. I think they had a point there.

[ancient peak]

I mean I give them credit for trying to innovate, but I think there was just too much new in the game for people to swallow all at once

[eager spire]

I donno, I don't think stuffing a lot of people into an FPS match all at once has ever been or ever will be a good idea

[pastel loom]

lmao bf3 testing 128
meanwhile ps3/xbox360 was 12v12 max

[eager spire]

pretty sure BF3 was 64 players even on consoles.

[ancient peak]

It was 32v32

[eager spire]

which is 64

[ancient peak]

Maps were much smaller tho

[eager spire]

congratulations you can do math

[pastel loom]

wrong it was 24

I've never seen a 64 server slot

[shy latch]

well, on BF3 I played with 32 players on conquest (I had PS3), then when I passed to BF4 on PS4 the players doubled, but I didn't feel so much difference similar to 64->128

[eager spire]

Okay so apparently BF3 could support 64 players on PS3/360, but it would've meant no destructibility and no vehicles.

which is probably why nobody did that

[visual gazelle]

It happened with MAG on PS3 with 128 vs 128, and I remember it not playing well.

[slender isle]

I prefer 128 over 64 players. No clue why but I just enjoy it so much more. Layouts are much better on the maps.

[visual gazelle]

Every point was just a meatgrinder.

[eager spire]

“A lot of people ask us about 64 versus 128 or 256 players. Technically, we can go to 256, we’ve tried it. We play tested with 128. You’ve got to make a game that’s fun to play. And, arguably, we think that the most fun you can have is when it’s between 32 and 40 players. And we’ve done substantial research into this and tested 128 and that it’s not fun. Maybe we haven't done our design work good enough, but we just feel like there's no point in going higher than 64.” - Patrick Söderlund, 2011

[rigid blade]

The only thing about 128 that sucks is the game is so trash they can't fill the servers past 10pm est

[slender isle]

I think the main reason they said this is due to the technological limitations with the maps of the time. You’d have 128p or 256p on the same maps as they had, so the maps were too small and had less props.

[eager spire]

I feel like if the DICE that made BF3, a game that so many people liked back in the day, couldn't make 128 players work, nobody can.

and the effects of trying 128 players are felt in 2042's problems, especially with it's map design, there's a reason they're having to rework all of the base game maps.

[slender isle]

But all the reworked maps work great. Idk about you, but I never find a quiet area on the maps and it’s really fun. Especially orbital and renewal. I never miss a fight it’s fun

[pastel loom]

proof that bf3 only had 24 on ps3/xbox360 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714165722430832680/1038057260502487090/IMG_20221104_144803.jpg

[next onyx]

Huh so the VCAR is a carbine.

Hence err...

VCAR.

But the gun in reality is a carbine.

[slender isle]

What’s the V stand for?

[next onyx]

Not even sure.

[delicate hollow]

very nice

[eager spire]

BF3 could've supported 64 but they decided against it because it would've meant scrapping destructibility and vehicles.

[slender isle]

And look how far tech has come

[eager spire]

and look how little destruction 2042 has

People love to complain about that.

[slender isle]

It’s literally the same as bf3 lmao

[eager spire]

Maybe they couldn't get 128 players working with destruction.

[slender isle]

They could, you can try it in portal if you like

Or on discarded

[pastel loom]

the maps are too huge that they're still empty with 128

[eager spire]

i mean if it was the same as BF3, then why do people complain about it

[slender isle]

No clue, shit glazed glasses cause one person say one thing bad and people pile on cause game bad

[rigid blade]

I mean it would be nice if you could bring down any non essential buildings lol (wouldn't make sense for Kaleidoscope f2 building since the flag is on top)

[delicate hollow]

only thing I ever see brought up on the argument of destruction is Siege of Shanghai

[eager spire]

pretty sure they changed that so the flag isn't on top of the building

because that's ass

[slender isle]

Orbital, exposure, renewal, Kaleidoscope, and manifest are all perfect sizes for 128p

[rigid blade]

Its still there presently

[slender isle]

Wait, didn’t everyone hate Shanghai once the building collapsed?

[eager spire]

i swear another map had an issue with a flag being on top of a building and that got changed

[slender isle]

Hourglass

[eager spire]

I hated shanghai before the building collapsed

because you know what happened when the building was up? everyone camped the fucking elevators all the time.

[ancient peak]

They usually hated it because it collapsed in like 2 minutes lol

[slender isle]

Yeah lmao, but the destructive building bit is even worse to play in, it kinda sucks

[rigid blade]

I remember crashing jets on Oman to bring that fuckin building down

[slender isle]

Example A

[eager spire]

i'd rather take that than having to deal with dipshits camping the elevator cause they can't fucking play the game

[shy latch]

maybe yeah, otherwise it would require a lot of performance from client side

[rigid blade]

Maybe they couldn't get the game working at all, and used another game they were working on and pieced it together to make this one

[slender isle]

🤨🤨🤨

[eager spire]

bold of you to assume that DICE were working on more than one project at the same time

[slender isle]

I mean we saw the game was unoptimised at launch. However, they still attempted areas like the hourglass town and half of the discarded map

Discarded could’ve been top tier if it was laid out well

[shy latch]

at the time I always remained amazed and watched the skyscaper collapse 😅

[rigid blade]

Exposure is hands down my favorite map

[eager spire]

the layout issues are likely due to the maps being so large

[slender isle]

Oh I loved it falling, hated playing it after though

[slender isle]

Exactly, orbital and renewal are the perfect “large” map sizes

Discarded is a lil too big and open

[rigid blade]

That stupid snow map is way too big

I exit lobby the second I see that map load 🤣

[eager spire]

eh, i got a bit tired of it in quick order, those sequences look cool but they're just trailer marketing gimmicks, they don't really add much to the gameplay in my opinion.

[slender isle]

Honestly though, best tdm in the game

[eager spire]

They're like the 2042 Tornado.

[slender isle]

The tornado is still fun though

[eager spire]

it's still a gimmick

[rigid blade]

I don't play tdm often but I believe it

[umbral island]

Discarded needs to be completely reworked

[eager spire]

and it will be at some point

[rigid blade]

Bf3 gun game was pretty fun

[slender isle]

That’s what’s happening lmao. All they gotta do is build the town out a lil bit, close the size down slightly and done

Maybe some more cover

[limpid pond]

No

[eager spire]

the map reworks seem to me like they're remaking the maps after they've actually been playtested

because you cannot convince me that they were playtested before launch.

[limpid pond]

No more cover. I wanna just spawn in front of someone instantly and die

Call it open field 2042

Spawn me in a corn field with no Corn

[slender isle]

I mean we can look at the cyberpunk situation and see that stuff is playtested, but sometimes the people playtesting them aren’t doing their job right

[rigid blade]

Call it Call of Battlefield: War area

[limpid pond]

Cyber punk was terrible when it released but now it's amazing

[tight portal]

anyone have issues adding a psn friend for bf2042 their name wont show up for me when searched?

[limpid pond]

Thanks to edgerunners

[tight portal]

from pc

[slender isle]

Exactly, 2042 hopefully gets the same treatment (like every bf title lmao)

[shy latch]

yes and no, I mean the skyscaper destruction wasn't mandatory or automatic, but at least it modify the objective (in that case was C) with a different kind of purpose to conquest it and different covers, plus a small influence on the remaining map (there was dust in the air that creates a fog effect)

[limpid pond]

Yeah exactly. I'm really hoping they give 2042 6 seasons

[slender isle]

The only map that levolution don’t actually matter was the city map and golmund railway

[limpid pond]

The potential is there

[slender isle]

100%

[umbral island]

It should get 8 seasons then

Cuz year 1 is 4 seasons

[eager spire]

i categorically refuse to believe that someone with a functioning brain and eyes playtested any element of this game before it came out and was like "yup this is good release it"

[ancient peak]

We’ll see. Season 3 and 4 will determine if they’ll support the game further or not. I’m not hopeful, but I’ve been wrong before.

[limpid pond]

Yeah but if they drop support after season 6 then it'll be fine

[slender isle]

Did you play cyberpunk at release? There’s like an entire scandal thing behind the playtesting and the way it happened

[shy latch]

you mean dawnbreak as city map? (i'm not sure about the english name of that map) if so yeah

[limpid pond]

Yeah I think the factions will bring back alot of players

[slender isle]

Yeah that one

[visual gazelle]

I think it's just that everyone has their different preferences on what's fun. For me, it's having a good balance of chaos and being able to make a difference in a match as an individual player and/or squad. 64 players allows that to happen. But if someone's idea of fun is pure chaos, then 128 at objectives are it.

[slender isle]

Oh shit and the map with the big dam

[eager spire]

no but i'm talking about 2042

[shy latch]

flooded?

[next onyx]

Oh yeah how the Romanian devs gave them a bunch of little bugs not the game breaking ones?

[ancient peak]

Eh… not sure about that. While I’m positive that the rework if done well will bring some positive change to the game, I am doubtful how much it would bring people back.

[slender isle]

No no the other one

[shy latch]

oh no wait

[slender isle]

Yup

[lone void]

Lancang Dam

[next onyx]

Yeah that's pain.

[shy latch]

I understand which one you are talking about, can't remember the name tho

[lone void]

Just bring back Golmud Railway it's perfect for 128 players

[slender isle]

I find that I can usually make a large difference in a match by like pushing players a certain way? Orbital for example has me pushing the D flag with a group of people, and it becomes a clusterfuck, but I can still go capture the E sector or the C sectors if I wanted to

[visual gazelle]

And I thought Battlefield 1 had maps with too much No Man's Land. 2042 takes that trophy.

[eager spire]

like i donno what it is with games being playtested these days but i feel like they're either being playtested by people who don't know anything, or they're not being playtested at all.

[limpid pond]

Oh but my friend you're not factoring in the key detail here. Wz2. When warzone two drops and good players aren't able to slide cancel around a massive map and die to campers. They will venture to different games again

[shy latch]

yeah Lancang Dam

[limpid pond]

Yeah it's bad in certain areas but luckily they're fixing it

[slender isle]

Search up the cyberpunk play testing situation, you’ll see exactly why everything is fucky

My bet it was the same for DICE during 2042s development

[eager spire]

okay is it some kind of issue with the industry as a whole or

[next onyx]

Nah just DICE didn't have enough time to actually test things.

[limpid pond]

Idk about that one. Was it ever confirmed anyone actually playtested?

[next onyx]

This game needed another year.

[lone void]

The ambience of BF1 makes those spaces threatening still tho, 2042 doesn't really have that feel

[prisma anvil]

easily

[slender isle]

I really doubt a game company of that size didn’t play test

[ancient peak]

If it came out like it is now, reception would be much better even with specialists

[slender isle]

Even the devs working on portal modes play test lmao

[limpid pond]

Idk man. They had and have other games in development

[rigid blade]

must release before Christmas, fuck it if it isn't finished

[eager spire]

i really doubt that this game was playtested considering the state it released in

[hearty flame]

Im sure they playtested. I mean someone said that they ran internal reviews and scored themselves 80s lol

[lone void]

They could still have got it before Christmas this year

[slender isle]

You can still have shit play testers lmao. Have you seen game journalists play video games? They’re horrific

[limpid pond]

Should have pulled a halo infinite and delayed the game a year

[slender isle]

That’s still a shit game lmao

[limpid pond]

Oh yeah halo this year is beyond terrible

[hearty flame]

another year without player feedback still wouldnt have saved 2042

[ancient peak]

even then it didn’t help

[lone void]

I forget Halo Infinite exists until someone says it

[eager spire]

i mean clearly they don't value the opinions of decent players, otherwise we wouldn't have been in this situation since BFV

[lone void]

Then it goes away again

[slender isle]

I’m confused why we think adding another year would fix anything? The player feedback is what is saving the game

[shy latch]

imo probably that was a contract problem between EA and DICE, due to Covid 2042 was meant to extend the contract to properly finish the game but EA denied that; again: impo

[prisma anvil]

well mostly cuz playtesting is time, resource and money consuming, think about it, every mode, mulitiple games per mode, atleast 128 machines and people, mulitple platforms,

[limpid pond]

And actually tbh the game itself isn't terrible. It's the missing modes and features

[prisma anvil]

whole boatload of things to fuck up

[lone void]

Even the way the game was at the time content wise it was still busted

Game machine broke

[eager spire]

besides, another year and maybe they would've been able to fix the engine level input issues the game has.

because they sure as fuck aren't fixing them now.

[hearty flame]

lol at people thinking more time wouldve saved this game
the issues a vast majority of people have with it is fundamental not technical

[slender isle]

I’m just happy to see player feedback actually having a proper effect on the game… rather than the cod situation

[rigid blade]

They should just release it in beta for a year so if people want to play it, and deal with bugs, at least you go into it knowing it's gonna be a little fucky

[eager spire]

there are still technical problems, and massively technical problems

[hearty flame]

hey it only took them a year lol
cod just came out

[slender isle]

Yeah and activision doesn’t have a good track record lmao

[hearty flame]

better than dice?

[slender isle]

They straight up told players “no” to their suggestions lmao

[limpid pond]

Content for 2042 imo is excusable strictly because the game was recieved so bad that ea was literally gonna end support after 5 months of release. So the stale mate of being a developer and not working on something you have no idea whether it'll continue support makes sense to kinda hault

[arctic grove]

Might take CoD a year to implement much needed changes for its problems as well

[prisma anvil]

there's debate on since 2042 launched mostly unfinished, they were able to backpedal on a lot of decisions due to backlash, if more time was allowed, maybe those issues would be more entrenched and debilitating for the game

[slender isle]

Nowhere near as good as dice when it comes to community feedback are you kidding lmak

[lone void]

Trust me, ignoring player feedback js good for MW2. If they listened to the player feedback we would just have slide jump spamming endlessly and shotguns that one shot across the map

[hearty flame]

nah it was a genuine question. i dont know lol

[eager spire]

If they listened to player feedback there would be shotguns that oneshot across the map
nobody genuinely likes that though

literally everyone fucking hated the 725 meta in MW19

Are you stupid

[limpid pond]

None of the cod players that are good Luke shotguns

[lone void]

Someone out there

[limpid pond]

Like

[slender isle]

Seriously, COD devs are so up themselves (the suits anyways) that they whole heartedly believe what they think is correct and the players are playing wrong. Have you seen mw2 with sbmm, warzon being the focus, and how the campaign is worse than mw19

[eager spire]

If they listened to the playerbase, Overkill would not be in the game, and the 725 would not have returned

[slender isle]

The suits are forcing warzone down my throat likes it’s my uncle

[limpid pond]

725 Hauer the damn streets Weezer, combat shotgun r90 vlk

[lone void]

The SBMM is aihgt in MW2

[limpid pond]

No one liked those guns being as good as they were

Streetsweeper*

[eager spire]

if they listened to the playerbase, the perk system wouldn't have been changed at all, if they listened to the playerbase, SBMM/EOMM would not be as strong as it is.

[slender isle]

We’re still like 4 years away from an actually good COD

[visual gazelle]

For me it's more complicated than that. For example, in 2042 if my squad is trying to push an objective that no one else is, but too much enemies start spawning there and we feel the need to retreat, we usually find ourselves without the tools to do that (Call in system on cooldown or all vehicles are taken, being mini map spotted just for shooting my gun so it makes it harder to defend myself as we try to retreat, not enough cover so my squad is easy pickings from someone sniping 100 meters away, etc). Pair that with a multitude of 2042's other problems, and I just don't have fun with this game.

[hearty flame]

i mean warzone prob makes lot more money than base game for what it costs, sbmm sucks ya, and campaign seemed good from what i saw but thats subjective

[slender isle]

Seeing as sledgehammer is making another advanced watergate

[visual gazelle]

Ambience doesn't matter if it plays like shit.

[limpid pond]

Yeah advanced warfare 2 if 4 years away

[umbral island]

watergate

[eager spire]

YES

EXACTLY.

[lone void]

BF1 doesn't play like shit, it's just built different

[eager spire]

Why should i give a shit about the ambiance of a game i fucking hate

[eager spire]

no it plays like shit on multiple different levels

[fading wharf]

EA watching this chat and see they talkin about CoD instead of buying Boins

[slender isle]

That’s fair criticism. I just find my squad being forced into gunfights which we’re at a disadvantage in. Usually dying but when we win it’s such a good feeling

[lone void]

I liked BF1

[limpid pond]

I own boins so they're good now

[prisma anvil]

remember, no microtransactions

[limpid pond]

[eager spire]

i fuckin hated it

[arctic grove]

I could’ve swore I heard that an advanced warfare 2 is not being worked on from an insider level

[hearty flame]

like ea even glances at us plebs

[eager spire]

it's the most annoying BF game

[visual gazelle]

I'm mostly talking about BF1 maps like Galicia, which were terrible for attackers on Operations.

[limpid pond]

You can't spell steal without ea

[lone void]

I physically can't get back into playing it though because since I got my PS5 it reset all my settings and I can't replicate how I had it before

[slender isle]

Maybe, but they need to seperate the 2, not have warzone map areas as multiplayer maps

[prisma anvil]

[slender isle]

That’s why ground war sucks lmao

[limpid pond]

It's true

Look at battlefront 2

They massacred my boy

My sweet child

[slender isle]

Battlefront 2 is great now

[eager spire]

like i think if IW actually listened to the playerbase for MW22, it would've been a much better game.

[visual gazelle]

🤝

[slender isle]

At launch it was a mess

[limpid pond]

But it's dead

[lone void]

Battlefront 2 gang represent

[hearty flame]

its the other way around no? multiplayer zones in warzone. at least for warzone 1 i think. or was that blackout? or both

[limpid pond]

In the grave

Has a average of 1600 players

[lone void]

Of course it is, they cut it off for this game

[eager spire]

Because a lot of people making suggestions, a lot of the people that are really good at CoD and have been playing it for years know what they're talking about.

[limpid pond]

That's as much as titanfall 2

[lone void]

At least they made it great while it was going tho

[slender isle]

I’m not 100% sure. But everything in the warzone 2 map is being used as multiplayer maps. You can tell by the design. It’s like rooftop camper galore

[limpid pond]

Then they confirmed they're not making a battlefront 3. I'm hllla Mad about that one

[lone void]

Big sadge

[limpid pond]

Weren't been asking for bf3 for almost 20 years

We've *

[lone void]

Ok just don't say the original one looked good please

[slender isle]

Battlefront 2 was a lil too Arcady for my tastes but it looked stunning

I prefer Star Wars squad mod

[hearty flame]

i can see that for their ground war maps but not normal ones

[slender isle]

There’s a couple I’m pre sure. That broken house desert one is 100% in warzone

[limpid pond]

Battle front 2 was great. Abilities heros villans star fights vehicles

Everything was good

[pastel loom]

quick match should be removed period
so the game no longer sends players to empty servers
and keep server browser for them

[limpid pond]

Maps were made well and so on

[prisma anvil]

i'd rather not see ea try their new and improved lootbox 2 electric boogaloo in btf3, its gone, we had a decent enough time with it while it was a thing, and thats cool with me, i'd rather a franchise be canned at a high than see it descend into the pits of depravity.

[slender isle]

It’s illegal now

[hearty flame]

i want a battlefront 3 in the same vein as the original battlefronts

[slender isle]

You can’t have lootboxes like they had in your game

[hearty flame]

a starwars skinned battlefield lite

[limpid pond]

Oh dude their 100% gonna remake the series over again

[prisma anvil]

they'll figure out a loophole trust me

[slender isle]

I wouldn’t mind having the squad mod become standalone

[limpid pond]

They'll make another btf 1 and then another btf2

[slender isle]

You’ve gotta show the probability for all items available or something like that I’m not 100% sure

[hearty flame]

with a bit of polishing sure itd be great. nothing like getting orbitally bombarded for the first time lol

[eager spire]

i mean lootboxes can go straight to hell so i don't really miss them being gone

[limpid pond]

Btf3 was in development and was almost actually completed but then they pulled the plug

A kid got a hold of the only copy of it for psp and they tried suing him

[slender isle]

Bf1 had the worst lootboxes and I stand by that. I got the same skin 4 times

[hearty flame]

there was also that star wars fps a few years back too

a cod like one or something

[limpid pond]

Which one?

Squadrons?

That game did terrible

[hearty flame]

uh dont remember, got cancelled with a ton of other projects

[limpid pond]

Or you talking about fallen order?

Ohhhhh

[prisma anvil]

thats how continuous monetization works, they 're always trying to find a way to squeeze more out you while staying in the green or atleast in the ambiguous orange legally, as time progresses they'll figure out new loopholes to exploit

[eager spire]

Well actually it's not that simple. I don't mind lootboxes on their own. What I do mind is being able to buy ridiculous amounts of lootboxes for real money. That's bullshit. I think keeping lootboxes around as free progression items to get cosmetics is fine.

[limpid pond]

Bo3 supply drops but you can't buy them

[hearty flame]

It was star wars first assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIco0oFPbKE

[slender isle]

I find the fortnite method of “battlepass and store” so much better than “lootbox”

[eager spire]

well Bo3's supply drops weren't entirely cosmetic, because new weapons were added and they were only in those supply drops.

I don't care for battlepasses. Especially paid battlepasses in games you already had to pay for.

[hearty flame]

unless its overwatch 2s

[slender isle]

Yeah that sucks ass

40$ for a fucking skin

Shameful

[limpid pond]

Yep and that's the only thing that made supply drops bad. Was the fact that you could get weapons from them that were good

[prisma anvil]

thats the new progression, lootboxes to battlepass, lootboxes came into the spotlight, so they switched, in a few years, they'll make battlepasses more predatory and aggressive, till the spotlight is on that, and then they'll switch to something new, and the wheel keeps on turning

[hearty flame]

level 55 out of 80 for a hero in a game where switching heros is the point too

[limpid pond]

Also Lucas art's go ham with starwars games man

[slender isle]

That’s for free, you get the hero when you buy the BP as the first tier

[limpid pond]

Truly a great company to make star wars games

[visual gazelle]

I'll take cosmetic microtransactions over maps being locked behind paywalls any day.

That way at least everyone can still play together.

[slender isle]

I don’t know how they’d fuck up the battlepass system, it’s like perfect monetisation

[prisma anvil]

i'd take the latter

[limpid pond]

Dlcs were huge back in the day

[prisma anvil]

easy, add more tiers, increase the grind, charge more, make it appear that the bp has more tiers to progress, while filling it with more bloat

[slender isle]

You buy something, then go ahead and unlock all of the cosmetics you just bought, forcing you to play the game more, making you feel like you haven’t wasted your money

[limpid pond]

I remember all 4 dlcs for bo3

[eager spire]

Also, the new hero is broken and has caused multiple bugs to happen, like the bug that got Mei removed, and i believe Kiriko has also caused a problem with Brig, causing her to gain unlimited and unbreakable shield.

[prisma anvil]

i mean, paid dlc is only good if the base game feels complete

[hearty flame]

do what bfv did and make individual camo parts a level on the bp lol

[limpid pond]

You wanna know a game that would do great if brought back that no one talks about?

[slender isle]

More bp tiers I like that. More stuff is always a plus

[eager spire]

But they won't disable Kiriko because she's the new battlepass hero, she's the only reason people are buying it

[limpid pond]

Medal of honor

[slender isle]

Kiriko is literally broken lmao. She counters everyone

[hearty flame]

blizzard either really mismanaged or really incompetent. or both

[limpid pond]

Imagine they bring back the medal of honor series

[eager spire]

both

[prisma anvil]

yes, till you realize that most of the shit in that bp is useless, looks meh and something that you'll never actually use, again, just me thinking, in actuality they'd probably think of a more effective way to charge more while doing less

[visual gazelle]

Sadly they've tried and failed multiple times. :<

[slender isle]

If only, medal of honour war fighter was so fun

[eager spire]

too busy stealing co-workers breast milk to actually work on a video game

[limpid pond]

Yo that last one was fire though

[slender isle]

Ehh, I like the feeling of unlocking the stuff, even if I won’t use it. Like the rao helmet this season, it’s so good

[limpid pond]

Warfighter was great

[eager spire]

Paid battlepasses in games that already cost $60 are fucking annoying to me

[limpid pond]

The latest just plain medal of honor game was great too

That game was amazing

[eager spire]

like i already paid full price for this and now you're gonna expect me to spend even more money?

[limpid pond]

Socom could do good too

[eager spire]

fuck off

[hearty flame]

too busy virtue signaling

[limpid pond]

I haven't played a socom game in 12 years

[hearty flame]

zippers gone though
wish we got a MAG on current gen

[prisma anvil]

true, but again, think paying 40$ for a 300 tier bp, out of which, 7 items are truly good, with the weapons, vehicles, ops (which should be free) also added to increase bloat, thats just a basic concept, you know they'll make it much worse

[visual gazelle]

At least with 2042, you don't even need to buy the battle pass to unlock the important stuff, which is the weapons, gadgets, and Specialists.

[prisma anvil]

alos, dont forget ads, i'm pretty sure, 5 yrs down the line, even paid games will have mandatory ads, that you can pay an additional subscription amount per month to get rid of

[eager spire]

well yeah, but i think it's annoying that in order to get anything that's worth a damn cosmetically you have to pay more money.

[slender isle]

Mobile game syndrome

[slender isle]

A lot of the free stuff this season was great

That rao skin

Yummy yummy

[next onyx]

I do wish there were freenium stuff.

[prisma anvil]

its one of the reasons i liked paid dlc ( albeit if that first rule of a complete base game is satisfied) its new shit, dev time has been spent on it, if its good enough and is substantial enough, why would you mind paying for it? you pay for story dlc expansions..why not mp's? just have a better premium friends system from bf1, where you can try just the maps if you have friends with the dlc, incentivizes you to make friends. i never liked the oh but its free for me cuz i dont buy skins argument cuz of this, someone is paying for it period.

[slender isle]

Maybe they do the siege method of “a lot is free, but more so paid”

[slender isle]

I don’t actually pay for any story expansions in a single player game until I know the reviews. But also, it splits the multiplayer player base. Bf4 for example I cannot find the naval dlc maps being played at all.

I’m happy to get free content with paid skins than paid content and free skins

[prisma anvil]

arguably, as much i have my issues with it, i dont mind siege's system.

[slender isle]

Siege sucks in everything but it’s BP system lmao. Everything else? Dog water

[still vault]

Anyone old enough to understand the reference?

[prisma anvil]

mostly cuz the maps are free and you can get the ops with renown, so the bare essentials are free, and they actually have decent skins that you can buy with in game currency (although i will admit, they've severly nerfed renown gain, and dont even get me started on how dumb the booster system is)

[shy latch]

Half Life?

the 2 if I'm not wrong

[still vault]

GJ

[shy latch]

what did I win?

[edgy oriole]

[still vault]

I won't put pineapple on pizza

[shy latch]

yeeeeeeeee 🥳

[prisma anvil]

you better not

oh yeah, talking about siege, that argument is starting to become valid for siege now, kinda

[slender isle]

I like to run into him multiple times just to get tased

Gives me incentive to murder his friends for the rest of the game

[prisma anvil]

why not, dont get tased and murder them anyway just for the hell of it?

[slender isle]

Not my Gordon. He has incentive to murder them, instead of just being a puppet for G-man. Get tased = blow up their entire government structure.

[prisma anvil]

[slender isle]

In the first game I just murdered the military for killing a scientist in front of me

And then I killed the demons because I brought them into this world and I’ll be damned if im not the one to take them out

[prisma anvil]

[slender isle]

I’m not a murdering psychopath

Only in wolfenstein I am

[prisma anvil]

youre just a psychopath that likes murder, i get it

[visual gazelle]

You either get gameplay items for free but pay for cosmetics, the other way around, or both. Personally for me, it's a necessary evil for free gameplay DLC.

[eager spire]

I do get that, but I can't help but be annoyed when there's not really much in the way of decent good looking cosmetics for people who might like the game, but either don't want to spend more money on it beyond what they paid for the game, or just are not able to.

[next onyx]

Slaughtering Nazi's since 1992!

@low timber I'm going to be called a hacker for this set up.

[eager spire]

oh so i get timed out for saying that but you can say that and it's fine. i see you, alright. :I

[visual gazelle]

I can see that. If there's a free battle pass or something, you want to get at least a few nice things, right?
For me, I look from the perspective of someone who played shooters like Goldeneye and Timesplitters where DLC and cosmetics weren't really a thing. You just played the game because it's fun, no progression or battle passes.

[next onyx]

Uh sorry let's see for context. Apologies Silver.

[low timber]

Short barrel?

[next onyx]

Short barreled close combat.

I can fire it so fast.

And destroy people in a blink of an eye.

[low timber]

I didn’t like the short barrel

[next onyx]

The velocity becomes fucky wucky.

[low timber]

Too much spread

[next onyx]

Stubby grip!

PEW PEW PEW

[eager spire]

considering i never actively played those games, and i only ever played games with at least somewhat decent progression cosmetically, i feel it's understandable that i'm a bit annoyed when a lot of decent cosmetic items are only obtainable by paying for them.

[low timber]

Do you have the green laser on it?

[next onyx]

No.

[low timber]

Scrub

[next onyx]

Don't complain to me about SPREAD when you're not running a stubby grip.

[visual gazelle]

So from my perspective, free gameplay DLC is great, and reminds me a bit of the good old days where there was nothing gameplay related locked behind a paywall.

[next onyx]

I'm firing this thing at max speed and killing so quick.

Yeah unit.

[low timber]

Do you think I didn’t use it?????

[next onyx]

Well clearly you're using the laser now.

[eager spire]

yeah fair enough. still annoying though. like i'm willing to play a game a lot for decent cosmetic items, i have nearly 800 hours in Black Ops 3 mostly from my Dark Matter grind.

[low timber]

No

[low timber]

It’s on my second slot

Plus menu remember?

[next onyx]

Yes.

This thing has the mag to support an assault.

It's absolutely messed up.

The lights on the skin are nice though.

[low timber]

So, how far are you with it to T1 then?

[next onyx]

I'm up to tier 3.

I just got the last of the attachments.

Wrapped suppressor helps for stealth.

[low timber]

Do you have the 4.5x scope as well? In the plus menu

[next onyx]

The scope and iron sight?

Yeah.

[low timber]

Nice

[next onyx]

The second slot was being used up so I thought why not put it there.

[low timber]

Used that myself quite a bit

[next onyx]

I fear I'm gonna break my mouse.

With all the clicking.

[low timber]

Get a macro

[next onyx]

My hand is the macro.

[visual gazelle]

Ultimately a product's value is up to you. 👍 But I always consider this for myself: if I need progression and rank ups to have fun, am I truly enjoying this game?

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low timber]

Then rebind your fire to the scroll wheel and scroll, scroll, scroll

[next onyx]

Versus the VSS the irony is that the VCAR feels balanced.

It's only good close up.

And that's it.

Past that it struggles.

[eager spire]

I liked Bo3.

[next onyx]

Black ops 3 was fun.

I miss black ops 2 the most though.

[shy latch]

interesting 🤔

[eager spire]

Black Ops 2, personally i don't remember much about it despite having over a thousand hours on it

[low timber]

I’m slowly getting the M44 mastery up, currently at 500 kills exactly

[eager spire]

like i do not have that much feeling for it

[ivory canopy]

I remember having the gold camo FAL on BO2

[next onyx]

DIAMOND EVERYTHING!

TWICE!

[ivory canopy]

See I wouldn't have known since I stopped playing a bit after and went wholly PC.

[low timber]

Only CoD’s I’ve played the multiplayer are CoD1, CoD2, CoD3, MW2 and BO1.

[eager spire]

i didn't get diamond on everything

because i got tired of the pistols

[ivory canopy]

All the CoD I've really played was on Xbox.

[eager spire]

and also i was mainly playing TDM so i didn't run launchers

[low timber]

So FNB today is shotguns and pistols only. Yeah, I’ll pass

[ivory canopy]

But I was growing ever closer to PCs and eventually left Xbox altogether.

[next onyx]

Damn.

I would love to go the EU and bully everyone with the VCAR on FNB.

Or the p90.

And have you with me Marse.

[ivory canopy]

My current goal is the NTW.

[low timber]

Why not come here then?
Use your high ping to your advantage

[ivory canopy]

The good news is that it was what I was on before the Ghostmaker came out so I'm already at 1k kills. Less than 200 left for T1.

imho each in-game primary/secondary should have their own player card earned at 1k kills.

[low timber]

When I T1’d my NTW it was a double kill on a moving hovercraft through the window

[next onyx]

I tried playing on 300.

It was Dreadful.

my shots would only register half a second later.

[chilly jacinth]

high ping in this game is ass

i dont recommend it

[low timber]

I’ve played on US server once in 2042.

[arctic grove]

[low timber]

And even in my own region EU I have 54 ping most of the time, best I’ve seen has been 48.

Odd though how the game is made in Sweden but no Swedish servers.

[next onyx]

GER is where you guys connect to yeah?

[iron socket]

Let’s gooooo, Dice added 2 new bundles!! 1400 BFC let’s gooooo! We’ve had more bundles than all content added up

[chilly jacinth]

pretty damn sure theres some stockholm servers

otherwise i wouldnt be getting 24 ping

[umbral island]

Yes

[next onyx]

Wasit so.

Are there no servers in Slavic countries?

[umbral island]

No

[next onyx]

Poland, RU, ROM.

Wow.

[low timber]

Back in BFV EA did purge a lot of servers, like British servers

[next onyx]

That sounds cancer.

Yeah I remember.

[umbral island]

It is

[next onyx]

Plus the AF servers.

And IND servers.

[low timber]

Middle East

[next onyx]

The highest ping here is 40.

[low timber]

South Africa as well I think

[next onyx]

40 to 45.

[low timber]

I’m jealous

[next onyx]

And I think that's all the way out to Western Australia.

Since the servers are in SYD.

[low timber]

I have to play in 54 ping

[next onyx]

You guys are literally across GER it should be easy.

Goddamn that sounds like pain...

I had a dream where I could connect to U.S servers and have 80 to 90 pinjg.

[visual gazelle]

You guys are spoiled, lel. I'm in the middle of the Pacific Ocean so the lowest I can go is 80, lel.

[umbral island]

I once got in a Australian server

And I disconnected

[low timber]

Even closest part of Germany is 860km away

[next onyx]

I once connected to a Japanese XBOX server.

And lemme tell you.

If the ping were a bit lower.

I would have had fun fighting them.

[visual gazelle]

Japanese servers are great if you can get a playable ping.

[umbral island]

I have PTSD from bf5 Japanese servers

So many hackers

[next onyx]

There was this one dude on my ass and I knew I could beat him if my ping were better.

Yeah I think I got around uh.

140 ping?

Or somehting.

It was jsujt weird being in a different environment.