I should see about using Champion muzzle, Close combat drums, Micro T1 and a stubby grip?
#battlefield-2042
next onyx
upbeat sand
Mf my badge isn't updating its just stuck at 880
limpid pond
Mf my badge isn't updating its just stuck at 880
For what?
upbeat sand
But portal did fix my S1 badge and my battlepass missing points
next onyx
Yeah say to them you've tried the various fixes and it still won't work.
For season 2.
Ah.
upbeat sand
No s2 is stuck
limpid pond
Like level 880?
upbeat sand
880 points
next onyx
Yeah tell them it's stuck.
And they should be able to do a back end update.
In bhefore it updates next season.
eager spire
Spin!
next onyx
eager spire
Some mf in my DMs asking me to buy them a BF game at 20 to 3 this morning
It’s probably the same guy that’s been begging for people to buy him a BF game for the last few days
red shoal
If I setup a portal server with AI bots, would the kills in that server count towards Tier 1 stuff?
lone void
It’s probably the same guy that’s been begging for people to buy him a BF game f...
Poor 
lone void
If I setup a portal server with AI bots, would the kills in that server count to...
I belive that would create a limited XP/Mastery lobby, which will only gain progress until you hit T3
You need to have players to count
red shoal
Oh interesting. I'm at 2200/2400 attack heli kills, just want to get it over with. But I guess I'll have to stick to MP. Thanks for the reply though
lone void
With that being said, I wonder what happens if you have a portal server that has AI teammates and space for players, but nobody joins
Portal is kinda wacky
red shoal
I guess good things shouldn't come easy anyways. I'll just have to be patient for the last 200 kills
lone void
You've come this far, finish the job
arctic grove
If you can T1 vehicles in the current state of this game I have no excuse
Time to become AH-64GX Apache war chief main again sometime soon
Probably in season 3
ancient peak
Managed to get the M1A5 to T1 the other day, I can rest now
arctic grove
No resting until you t1 T28 now
arctic grove
Oh yeah I shot a grenade right as it was thrown.
arctic grove
Oh yeah I shot a grenade right as it was thrown.
thats possible?
I wondered the same
next onyx
thats possible?
Yeah the instant they are thrown and spawn into the world they can be shot by anyone. Who ever shoots, Throws it back and or kills the operator right as they're holding it to throw it has its ownership transferred to the perpetrator.
It's why you get random incidents where you'll get a frag grenade kill even if you didn't throw yours.
Or a motion sensors going beep beep without your knowledge.
arctic grove
Yeah the instant they are thrown and spawn into the world they can be shot by an...
I heard stealing a guy's jet mid air while his doing a rendezook is possible
Cuz during a rendezook he leaves the jet and u can steal his jet during that
Anything is possible in bottlefield
This guy rendezooks the guy trying to rendezook him by rendezooking his own jet and jumping into the enemies jet
next onyx
Rat got what he deserved.
I thought I was dead which is why I pressed R but hey, A kill for the mp412!
lone void
It's why you get random incidents where you'll get a frag grenade kill even if y...
I've got scatter grenade kills as Rao after hacking the Sundance which is kinda funny
upbeat sand
Rat got what he deserved.
10:50 mun
next onyx
?
upbeat sand
You nocturnal
arctic grove
Rat got what he deserved.
what yer pc specks
next onyx
It's 10:19 here.
upbeat sand
Dam you round earth
lone void
11:49 
upbeat sand
Ok that explains it
next onyx
Stop trying to give me a stroke.
lone void
Down with the mods, we will takeover with facts and logic
arctic grove
Uhhh 3080 with a 5600x.
whats ur settings on bf 2042
arctic grove
what happens if u set them all in ultra
next onyx
Probably be reduced to 70.
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arctic grove
why dont u use ultra settings if u still get 60+ fps with it
arctic grove
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1036510749037695016/Sc...
how much fps is that
next onyx
Cause I like 100 to 120 frames.
It gives me 100 to 120 frames.
If I truly were aware how CPU dependant 2042 was I'd use an R7.
next onyx
It's kind of normal.
And it makes sense.
Specifically, Battlefield has always been CPU and RAM dependant.
A set of ram with a good frequency and clock speed paired with a CPU with a sizeable 3D cache and cores lets the game run smoothly.
This game demands 250W out of my system for my GPU. Cyberpunk demands 350.
slender isle
I'm in South Australia.
An SA man too? Almost everyone I've met through BF has been from SA lmao
tight portal
always SA and WA
slender isle
I don't think I've met a BF player from anywhere outside of SA and WA. Had a tasmanian once but they don't count lmao
slender isle
born and raised in brisbane though
Oh thank god
pine roost
most Australian players seem really good, is that just coincidence or is there any backing to that?
slender isle
most Australian players seem really good, is that just coincidence or is there a...
Oh no yeah, sweatiest servers down here
pine roost
like I end up watching streams and the players in those lobbies have a sense of awareness
slender isle
Some don't I'll tell you now. We still have idiots and blind people.
but a majority of players on most games are absolutely amazing
pine roost
Why so then?
tight portal
rip the dream that's not me i like to medic.
arctic grove
rip the dream that's not me i like to medic.
Good
Medic goot for teem plae
slender isle
Why so then?
No clue, less players means everyone gets put in the same lobbies so are forced to get better
Maybe it's just the lifestyle of being great idk
lunar finch
like I end up watching streams and the players in those lobbies have a sense of ...
You should see NA 2042 players. Just a bunch of mislim couch gamers
Sometimes i kill these people and i just cant believe they are real players
chilly jacinth
it's called Battlefield so you have to play like it's real life
arctic grove
We do some larping in the states
pine roost
You should see NA 2042 players. Just a bunch of mislim couch gamers
I was having a discussion about something related to that in another server, it's really strange
EU seems to be a bit of a mix, but I do often see maybe 3-6 people who obviously are of a much higher skill level than the rest of the team in 64 player games
lunar finch
it's called Battlefield so you have to play like it's real life
Yesss exactly get a .5 kd and play like a real gamer😎
lunar finch
EU seems to be a bit of a mix, but I do often see maybe 3-6 people who obviously...
Its the same here, the top 6 are usually really good. The floor is just really really really low in NA lobbies like some of these players are just fucking awful
arctic grove
You can always notice it too
Games are just less enjoyable when the team is genuinely bad
lunar finch
Especially in BT
Some teams are just... questionable
I hate the people going negative that try to order the team around
arctic grove
It’s okay when they do it since they’re “PTFOing bro”
lunar finch
"Smoke the obj" like um okay how is smoking the obj gonna help when u cant even get a kill?
lunar finch
It’s okay when they do it since they’re “PTFOing bro”
Lmao
arctic grove
"Smoke the obj" like um okay how is smoking the obj gonna help when u cant even ...
Can’t even see and I’m not about to go play paik and sacrifice other benefits lol
lunar finch
Yeah like how does smoking even help?
So now nobody can see except paik and you know these "ptfo" people arent playing paik
Probably sitting in a corner with Boris or Irish
arctic grove
That’s always been something that annoys me about the more close quarters maps
lunar finch
Yeah especially on like Stranded
arctic grove
Smoke spam makes it to where you might as well stand around for several minutes in total or charge past the smoke into an lmg
lunar finch
The thought process of a ptfo player is just insane tbh
Ig they think if they smoke obj they can all run on it and cap it by man power and not by kills?
Which is a fucking awful plan
arctic grove
LOL yea, they sure are funny especially when you’re chilling and you see one start revving up in chat
eternal galleon
Helllloo
lunar finch
LOL yea, they sure are funny especially when you’re chilling and you see one sta...
They got so mad😭
eternal galleon
How's life?
lunar finch
"You guys need to revive
"
lunar finch
How's life?
Greeeat
eternal galleon
Good to hear
arctic grove
Once a dude who kept spawning on me just to die said me and the rest of the squad didn’t push enough
Meanwhile a paik kept shooting me through bushes while I pushed the entire game 
lunar finch
Leave it to the person at the bottom of the board to have a lot to say about their team
next onyx
Stupid service. I can't compress the one where I shoot the grenade out of the guys hand.
Here's an angel running into a grenade though.
delicate hollow
Here's an angel running into a grenade though.
never saw it coming
next onyx
@arctic grove Here.
arctic grove
The pure precision of mouse aiming is all i can focus on here
That is absolutely golden though lol
arctic grove
One of those cases where life just hates you and has to remind you 
next onyx
HAHAHA.
slender isle
<@456226577798135808> Here.
I can’t wait for you to abuse Mackay medpen and armour next season
Cause everytime I’ll kill you it’ll be an achievement
next onyx
HAHAHA.
delicate hollow
how much longer is season 2 anyway
next onyx
2 more weeks.
delicate hollow
fuckin sick
I'm hoping we get some sort of heavy pistol like a deagle or something soon
delicate hollow
fr, I'm not a fan of the revolvers in 2042
though the rex aint too bad compared to the other one
delicate hollow
I suppose, I aint good with it that's all I know lol
I'm usually using the glock
chilly jacinth
it just doesn't feel good to use for me
brittle forge
the glock is probably the best glock I’ve used in a shooter lol. It’s just really good and you can equip with huge mags with basically no downside.
grizzled whale
it can be great
delicate hollow
the glock is probably the best glock I’ve used in a shooter lol. It’s just reall...
Its a great well rounded sidearm, feels great to get kills with
brittle forge
The MP-11 ain’t bad either but I dislike its atrocious reload time for its first reload
For a pistol it’s way too long the M5A3 feels faster lol
delicate hollow
only thing I don't like is how long it takes to pull out in a fire fight
If I don't have time to reload and I can only switch to my MP11, I might as well just die
brittle forge
I’ve unlocked the M1911 but haven’t tried it yet. It was ok in the Portal matches I played but I don’t know how it compares to the 2042 sidearms
delicate hollow
its decent, low mag size is a major drawback but does decent enough damage in a pinch
cosmic storm
i like the fact we can unlock the new weapons even against AI. That avoid all the painful missions were you need to do something that you never use normally.
delicate hollow
i like the fact we can unlock the new weapons even against AI. That avoid all th...
its nice being able to throw on netflix and just farm bots for an hour getting all the attachments
cosmic storm
Poor AI
delicate hollow
I wish the Advanced AI were better, I like being able to play alone when I don't feel like playing a real match but I hate completely stomping them
tame cobalt
i hope the next bf doesn't go overboard with weapon attachments
i like having some manner of simplicity in kitting out the gun
To not be overloaded with choices
delicate hollow
especially if a lot of those choices do the same thing
tame cobalt
yeah or NEARLY the same thing then u gotta sit there and compare their minor differences and figure out which one you want
boring
delicate hollow
the new call of duty has a thousand different types of suppressors for each gun but who is really sitting there and comparing every minute detail of each one and their stats
visual gazelle
i like the fact we can unlock the new weapons even against AI. That avoid all th...
I would prefer unlocks not be a thing at all. I wish all attachments were unlocked from the get go. But gamers nowadays need a carrot to chase in order to stay engaged.
I guarantee a lot less people would be playing 2042 if there weren't unlocks and rank ups, lel.
next onyx
There was something about playing black ops 2 and even if you have everything, You always had a reason to play it.
Games nowadays you can't.
pastel loom
I would prefer unlocks not be a thing at all. I wish all attachments were unlock...
do they unlock from the get go with the gold/ultimate editions?
pastel loom
There was something about playing black ops 2 and even if you have everything, Y...
i see that
visual gazelle
do they unlock from the get go with the gold/ultimate editions?
Noep. You still gotta go through the battle pass to unlock the weapons and vehicles. And of course you still have to use the gun to unlock attachments.
next onyx
It's just nice having stuff to do. Getting special skins.
visual gazelle
I would prefer unlocks not be a thing at all. I wish all attachments were unlock...
I just think of FPSs of yesteryear where there were no unlocks or rankings, like Goldeneye, Timesplitters, Star Wars Battlefront PS2, etc. You just played the game because it was fun.
delicate hollow
Its a nice feeling making progress
regal sphinx
Anyone bought the Fireteam Bundle?
I find it the most interesting Bundle this Season.
First of all, the reminder of the burnt sets of BFV, then another Legendary MacKay Skin alongside Zero Resistance, the awesome AK24-Skin with the heating barrel and last-but-not-least the rad Universal-Weapon-Skin.
What's your favourite Bundle untill now? 🤔
pastel loom
I'd prefer minimising grinding with bundle packs
cosmic storm
Yep, as stupid as it is, a carrot still feels good.
if the carrot isn't to big of course...
pine roost
Lol, my computer science lecture has the bf3 giraffe neck bug on one of its slides
That was a surprise to see
visual gazelle
Yep, as stupid as it is, a carrot still feels good.
Once game devs realized that they can get players to keep playing their shitty game as long as there's a carrot, there was no going back. They've successfully brainwashed gamers that they need progression to have "fun".
visual gazelle
For me the fun starts after the progression
Based. Once I have every attachment, then I can start really experimenting and learning the ins and outs of a weapon.
next onyx
Oh UNIT.
I shot a grenade out of mid air.
You proud of me
Also yeah I'll usually take the easy attachments at first and then when dene I'll figure out what the gun needs.
umbral island
Also yeah I'll usually take the easy attachments at first and then when dene I'l...
Big balls
next onyx
Anyone bought the Fireteam Bundle?
I find it the most interesting Bundle this Se...
I have it.
The burned bundle is amazing.
next onyx
Not really.
cosmic storm
That's good in order to impose dominance 
next onyx
You're just as noticeable as someone else.
umbral island
They have bright red colors
pine roost
So do the big lights on your back
next onyx
Those orange digital skins I'd argue are even more noticeable.
Yeah the lights as well.
Which by the way regardless of factions should come back.
It's good for visibility.
pine roost
I agree
umbral island
Why would you use bright lights in a combat situation tho
pine roost
It’s not meant to be realistic, it’s meant to be fun
next onyx
Why would you use a laser sight?
pine roost
Why would you bring a wingsuit instead of armour?
pine roost
Especially after bfv’s visibility issues
umbral island
I’d rather have AI skins to be used for Specialists
latent tree
Why did they have to put orbital breakthrough on 128 layout it sucks so bad now
cosmic storm
Because skins I guess
next onyx
Regardless of cosmetics and specialists there should be lights. Helps a lot.
mellow marten
Once spotted you have big bright indicator over your character so wear what you want. Also bright lights on anything you wear.
brittle forge
Regardless of cosmetics and specialists there should be lights. Helps a lot.
Tbf I don’t think not having lights was a problem until BFV and this game so I don’t know if necessarily required per se if the factions are designed right
umbral island
Exactly
brittle forge
tbh even in BFV I had no issues with visibility outside of Devastation. Solomon islands too but the guys where I had that problem were like hiding in the bushes which you know is supposed to keep you hidden
umbral island
Yeah, and you can’t in bf2042
cosmic storm
This bush is made out of bush
umbral island
Like what’s the purpose of using camouflage skins in bf2042 if I get big bright lights on me
pine roost
the forced TAA didn't help
brittle forge
I think it BFV visibility issues were mainly just the ability to lie prone on your back you looked too much like a dead body
pine roost
but that's not going anywhere so I'll just have to cope I guess
brittle forge
Devastation was just visually noisy as fuck even with the lights you’d probably have trouble seeing people on that map
mellow marten
It’s so easy to get spotted in 2042 that I don’t think skins matter much.
brittle forge
the forced TAA didn't help
I don’t know why every modern shooter doesn’t include an option to turn antialiasing off now for some reason
limpid pond
I've always found visibility a problem ironically.
That's what she said
next onyx
People can blend in extremely easily to the ground.
umbral island
That's what she said
That’s what she said
limpid pond
That’s what she said
That's what she said
visual gazelle
I shot a grenade out of mid air.
👏
umbral island
That's what she said
That’s what I said
pine roost
I spoke to Deco and a few others about it, he'd be able to explain it better than I can but from what I've gathered it's down to games having lots of noise when sampling lighting and stuff. TAA can blend the noise together to make it look 'nicer' while not impacting performance as much
but It's incredibly hard to spot people now, especially in aircraft
umbral island
People can blend in extremely easily to the ground.
Yeah.. that’s the whole purpose of camouflage
umbral island
Uniforms also have camouflage
pine roost
What game we talking about?
TAA in recent bf games
next onyx
Not necessarily.
pine roost
and visibility of players
pine roost
temporal anti ailasing
brittle forge
I spoke to Deco and a few others about it, he'd be able to explain it better tha...
I’m gonna be real this is no reason to not include an option to turn it off if somebody wants to do that
limpid pond
Oh what the
brittle forge
sure have it be the default but if somebody wants to turn it off let me do it without going into a fucking config file please
pine roost
I want it off too
visual gazelle
It's more impressive than it seems I swear!
You triggered the flash on yourself! 
pine roost
it's off as a reflex in any game I play
limpid pond
It's not bad in 2042
brittle forge
I don’t think in 2042 you can even turn it off with a config file
pine roost
it is rather bad
limpid pond
There's only 1 issue I ever have with performance in 2042 and it's the discarded map
next onyx
Would be cool to see something like this though in 2042.
limpid pond
The moment you enter the forest area of discarded its becomes ultra blurry and grainy for some reason
visual gazelle
I'm pretty sure without 3D spotting, visibility of soldiers in Battlefield 3 and 4 would have been bad as well. 3 and 4 had character lighting, which Battlefield V added later on.
next onyx
You triggered the flash on yourself! <:LUL:562440529980293128>
Concussion go boom!
limpid pond
I literally feel like I'm playing a old atari game because you can actually see the pixels
All other maps are fine
pine roost
dynamic res?
brittle forge
It's not bad in 2042
It’s not a player visibility issue since everyone has bright lights now but I just don’t like how grainy the edges of things are with just it on. It ain’t film grain or DLSS I have both of those off
limpid pond
It’s not a player visibility issue since everyone has bright lights now but I ju...
Same but it's ultra worse on my console when I enter the discarded forest area for some reason
It's actually terrible
I also experience frame drops
pine roost
sounds to me like dynamic res
cosmic storm
I don’t think in 2042 you can even turn it off with a config file
And with your graphic driver manager ?
limpid pond
I got from 120 fps to 48 quickly
The crazy thing is that bf 2042 doesn't even support 120 fps on console
brittle forge
And with your graphic driver manager ?
I think the game over writes it but I do need to go through Nvidia settings and see what I can do
limpid pond
I have to rely on my monitor
pine roost
do consoles have the ability to disable dynamic res actually?
brittle forge
I did that at one point but I think 2042 reset it because it resets its own settings all the fucking time
limpid pond
Not that I know off
mellow marten
No
pine roost
well what you described sounds like it's exactly that. I had it in titanfall 2 before I tinkered with the settings
limpid pond
They literally could five two shits less about console
98% of their player base is pc
pine roost
I SERIOUSLY doubt that
brittle forge
I had to reconfigure the revive icons to not be as big and opaque in the ui settings and I swear that I had done that like five times already
limpid pond
Yeah it's more like 80%
brittle forge
Given that console was literally the only way to play hardline after two months I don’t think that’s entirely true
limpid pond
Console just got the whole wiener this year
pine roost
except for cod
brittle forge
It was probably the case back in like a Battlefield 3 since the console version was clearly inferior but ever since they had 64 player modes in both I think the player base was probably as big on Console if not more
pine roost
I don't even want to bring up that topic cause I'll just rant for hours
limpid pond
Nah no need cod aim assist is op 100% bf aim assist literally is for the shitty players
cosmic storm
I had to reconfigure the revive icons to not be as big and opaque in the ui sett...
I think you can copy your edit save, and paste it when they reset the settings for some reason.
limpid pond
If you play below a 40 sense you get aim assist
I play at 64 and can whole heartedly tell you I don't get shit. Close or far
hexed mango
you sent this after telling me to leave after i had already left
brittle forge
my experience with cod aim assist does not line up with how people describing it at all ngl. I’m straight up doing all the things to manipulate it too but people go off on cod aim assist and I’m like bro this ain’t destiny 2
Cause that aim assist is ridiculous
next onyx
Look who's getting a hug.
brittle forge
Genuinely makes me bad at other games lol
next onyx
Halo and destiny's is fucked.
brittle forge
You can’t even turn destiny’s AA off if you’re using controller
There’s literally no option
limpid pond
Genuinely makes me bad at other games lol
Yeah cod aim assist for the most part is busted. I play controller and can tell you. Go play a game like bo3 then try mw22. Mind-blowing the aim assist
brittle forge
I play MW22 and I can tell you it’s the most difficult cod game in terms of aim for me by far. I straight up went back to modern warfare 19 because I thought I was crazy and I found it way easier to hit people
So I can tell you at least in my experience it doesn’t add up
limpid pond
I played cod competitively. The game I find super easy to aim inn
brittle forge
I don’t know if the controller settings are just effed if I have something set wrong or whatever but but like controller straight up feels bad to me on the latest cod it’s like I have mouse acceleration on a joystick or some shit sometimes
limpid pond
You have dynamic aim assist turned on?
cosmic sequoia
can't believe cod has a competitive scene and bf doesn't
Fr
brittle forge
Again went back to MW19 and I didn’t have any problems at all
cosmic sequoia
Competitive battlefield 6
limpid pond
can't believe cod has a competitive scene and bf doesn't
I would 100% play bf comp but to many balancing issues
limpid pond
Again went back to MW19 and I didn’t have any problems at all
You turn dynamic aim assist on in mw2?
visual gazelle
i'd eat that up
Yet no one did in Battlefield 1 or V.
pine roost
bf comp would most likely be in the smaller infantry driven modes, I doubt you'd be able to get a team of 64 to coordinate lol
brittle forge
Battlefields main mode 64 player battles doesn’t really lend itself to esports easily simply because the amount of people you have to get. And a smaller modes aren’t impressive
cosmic sequoia
bf comp would most likely be in the smaller infantry driven modes, I doubt you'd...
Team of 32* but yeah
Unless you mean in 2042
limpid pond
I think if they did the liquidators thing as a competitive mode it could be good
And doable
pine roost
Yet no one did in Battlefield 1 or V.
I didn't play those games until a long while after launch for various reasons, but it's a real shame it didn't catch on
cosmic sequoia
I think if they did the liquidators thing as a competitive mode it could be good
Yeah but then are we really watching battlefield or are we watching cod
brittle forge
You turn dynamic aim assist on in mw2?
I’ve used the two that are “OP” which is the black ops and modern warfare aim assists. Those are the two that actually have rotational AA which is everybody’s bitching point. Do you mean the response curve because I have that set a dynamic yeah
next onyx
There was no official comp for 5 sadly.
limpid pond
Yeah but then are we really watching battlefield or are we watching cod
Eh 16v16 wouldn't be cod
arctic grove
I think if they did the liquidators thing as a competitive mode it could be good
Did you play BF4?
pine roost
But I only really began the aim and game grind over the last year and a half so I wouldn't have had the same mindset as I have now
cosmic sequoia
Eh 16v16 wouldn't be cod
That’s true. It’d be different but still, minimal or no vehicle play would be lame
Imo
limpid pond
Did you play BF4?
Not until the end. I was playing cod at that point
cosmic sequoia
Bf4 was amazing
arctic grove
Do you make content on YT or stream?
limpid pond
That’s true. It’d be different but still, minimal or no vehicle play would be la...
Exactly so the best comp scene we could ever possibly get would be firestorm
That's literally it
cosmic sequoia
Yeah
pine roost
ew br
limpid pond
To many balancing issues outside of that
next onyx
Hardline had competitive actually.
And the modes to make up for it.
Like Squad heist.
visual gazelle
I do remember playing Squad Conquest or whatever it was in Bad Company 2 and thinking that it would make a great competitive mode.
It was like two or three squads versus each other, and there would be only one tank that spawns.
brittle forge
I remember BF1’s Incursions which was interesting but it was just 5v5. Like it’s not a battlefield game at that point
next onyx
I know what you're on about.
cosmic sequoia
To many balancing issues outside of that
I don’t think bf5 would be that hard to balance. It’s pretty balanced right now. I don’t think a conquest match on Panzerstorm would be too difficult to cover.
cosmic sequoia
Squad death match was a lot of fun
visual gazelle
SQUAD DEATHMATCH.
Yeah! That's the most esports-like I've ever felt in Battlefield.
next onyx
Since we have free for fall I wonder if we can get it back in some form.
brittle forge
I did get into level cap gaming by his old-ass competitive battlefield 3 videos where it was basically just squad rush like I said it’s got the same problem where it really isn’t battlefield anymore but it was interesting to watch
cosmic storm
But isn't a squad deathmatch to... common ?
pine roost
although in europe it would be pretty rough since comms would be in all different languages
limpid pond
I don’t think bf5 would be that hard to balance. It’s pretty balanced right now....
Well there would have to be a strict meta along with strict classes and certain maps. You could only use certain guns that aren't too op and what not so balancing would be a bit of an issue out of the 200 guns bf5 has
next onyx
although in europe it would be pretty rough since comms would be in all differen...
SCHNITZEL.
cosmic sequoia
It would just be nice to have a full lobby in bf5, of people who are actually playing the game, not whining or hacking
visual gazelle
I don’t think bf5 would be that hard to balance. It’s pretty balanced right now....
If there's a Battlefield game that could make competitive work, it'd be Battlefield V with Squad Deathmatch or something. It's one of the most balanced Battlefield games in my opinion, so you'd only have to form a game mode like Squad Deathmatch around it.
limpid pond
You would then also have to find the right stuff to ban thats too op without it causing something else to he too op without it
next onyx
No matter the game people will lie down sadly. -.-
pine roost
ONLY IF there was a ranking system
next onyx
The bf5 OCE comp scene was fun.
cosmic sequoia
Well there would have to be a strict meta along with strict classes and certain ...
I mean I suppose. But it’s not like one op gun is going to really sway the outcome of a sweaty battlefield game
limpid pond
I feel like the bf5 semi comp scene turned into role play
Mfs were weird
I hope bf does clans soon and add custom colors
cosmic sequoia
It doesn’t even have to be like official “competitive” just like teams of 16 who want to play the game and actually try to win
pine roost
https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/850376380822323230/1022964043406...
In my opinion a truely competetive game is one where all players are even out of the gate, with similar movement options, gear, stats etc. No gadgets or grenades that would outplay someone simply by pressing a button. The victor comes down to raw skill
cosmic sequoia
Yeah but it’s battlefield
cosmic sequoia
So it should be a battlefield. Should use what the company has going for it
Not conform to cod numbers
If there’s a will there’s a way
next onyx
So what. It's comp. It's completely different.
There are tanks.
That's enough.
With the size of the maps too.
8v8 maps on bf5 had a decent size.
pine roost
I don't see how you can have comp with a large team, that's why comp games have small teams cause corrdination would be downright impossible
cosmic sequoia
Not really lol. There are sweaty squad players who make it work
cosmic storm
Not impossible but way harder yeah
cosmic sequoia
It’s really not that difficult
pine roost
you'll have what, 31 other people in one voice chat?
limpid pond
No arguing or you guys will force me to do it
next onyx
Do you really talk to comp players.
cosmic sequoia
You have a commander who tells the squad leads what to do. If it fails, commander is bad
limpid pond
That seems more like role play lol
next onyx
There is a general team consensus. The squad operates in themselves.
pine roost
are we not talking about a more close-knit, esports type thing?
limpid pond
Take me to your xbox to play fortnite todayyyyyy
next onyx
It's mostly Squad 1 into offence and squad two into defence.
limpid pond
Oh guys I got it
next onyx
Mid game tactics will switch up depending what happens.
next onyx
That'd be nice.
limpid pond
Rush is a good gamemode for that
next onyx
Yeah definitely.
cosmic sequoia
are we not talking about a more close-knit, esports type thing?
I think that’s what they want, but I think that’s dumb. It’s a battlefield game, why would we try to play it with minimal players?
next onyx
Squad conquest being about control and rush about being... Rush.
limpid pond
Exactly
They could even base rush off times
So whoever completed all objectives faster
next onyx
It might be a battlefield game but that doesn't stop comp from being comp in the way it works.
cosmic sequoia
Like overwatch
limpid pond
Kinda like safeguard from bo3
Yeah like overwatch
The escort the robot objective
But timed for rush
next onyx
I haven't really played comp rush because well, Just couldn't.
We only had Squad conquest to play on bf5.
It was good fun.
cosmic sequoia
It might be a battlefield game but that doesn't stop comp from being comp in the...
That doesn’t make sense. Competitive play doesn’t have to be some standard across the board for all games. I mean hell, force everyone to do 5v5 because that’s what league of legends is
next onyx
There was going to be a 5v5 on bf5 but that never came.
8v8 is all they had and as such it's been widely accepted.
8v8 is good. Your actions mean something and generally well balanced.
limpid pond
I'm a genius
next onyx
Certain weapons are also indeed banned.
pine roost
8v8 is good. Your actions mean something and generally well balanced.
I think that's the key for me, your actions actually having an impact on the match
low timber
You forgot squad death match
limpid pond
And the m16
next onyx
Uhh. Semis, SLR's, Suomi, Type 2, Grease gun, etc.
We did bring that up earlier Marse!
robust ember
And the m16
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limpid pond
You forgot squad death match
Nah tdm is the worst competitive mode ever
low timber
We did bring that up earlier Marse!
Hisss!
limpid pond
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No I bought it
next onyx
2042's banlist is SCAR, Short barrel on the m5 (So anything with an 800 RPM), All misc weapons, vector, etc.
For all I know.
robust ember
No I bought it
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limpid pond
Apparently the role is broken so it's pay 2 win
robust ember
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lilac dust
Yo Battlefield Twitter ... Why you gotta play with my feelings and post someone's clip like that. You got me excited about season 3 teases 😭
limpid pond
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Nah keep your sanity I'm not ruler of this server yet
low timber
2042's banlist is SCAR, Short barrel on the m5 (So anything with an 800 RPM), Al...
Banlist?
robust ember
Apparently the role is broken so it's pay 2 win
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arctic grove
https://esport-battlefield.com/battlefield-2042-conquest/ Rulesets and ban list is provided here.
limpid pond
Yeah but I think the actual role is broken
robust ember
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limpid pond
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limpid pond
Apparently some people have been here since 2020. And have over 45k messages and never got the role
low timber
I’ve been since 2018
next onyx
Oh god that ruleset.
limpid pond
Yo 100% btw I am the most unluckily player when it comes to vehicles and names killing me
next onyx
I think that was launch.
robust ember
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next onyx
I remember some talk with my friends that they had the scar banned but I'm not sure where to confirm that.
Comp players can instantly kill people with it.
They have the aim.
low timber
Meanwhile SWS-10 is not
next onyx
Yeah that's the weird part.
chilly jacinth
this ban list is poo
low timber
Short barrel, laser, close quarters ammo
next onyx
Maybe it was some blanket ban?
low timber
20m
limpid pond
To easy to use in cqb
low timber
MCS-880 standard buck can ohk to 15m
limpid pond
My bad 65ft
next onyx
Note though.
This list was made in January.
Of this year.
So a lot of things are outdated.
limpid pond
Mcs would be too good
next onyx
But it is of good reference.
limpid pond
If any good play uses the mcs you can shit on anyone
low timber
I should check on my mode again, last time modified it was in March
limpid pond
Yeah I had to master the mcs like 2 weeks ago
Did it in a day
Dropping 80 kills a game with it
I use the laser with the 01# buckshot
Just 1 shooting most people with it
low timber
The laser doesn’t do much on the MCS
limpid pond
Although I will note the mcs is inconsistent
I never ads with it so I put on the laser
arctic grove
What if Battlelog..
next onyx
They'll end up buffing the SPAS 12 and it'll be better than the MCS.
arctic grove
limpid pond
They'll end up buffing the SPAS 12 and it'll be better than the MCS.
Hopefully they don't add the spas
low timber
They will
limpid pond
No
low timber
Has the badge
limpid pond
Better not
low timber
In the files
limpid pond
I will abuse the he'll out of it since they nerfed my smgs
silk sluice
Guys what weapons are just complete shit rn
silk sluice
What about the m44?
limpid pond
M44 same as ghost maker
You can't hit shots it's bad
Acr is pretty bad too compared to other ars
silk sluice
Kinda sad the aks is pretty shitty since its my favourite gun overall
Like in anything
Smol ak
limpid pond
If you're good you can do something with it but even then it's Still a struggle
pine roost
m44 is fun to use when it works
silk sluice
It lacks the rof and magazine capacity
pine roost
dunno why it fires so slow compared to ww2 revolvers though
low timber
Been using the M44 as a pocket sniper 
limpid pond
I don't think I wanna go through the rest of the pain for the m44
pine roost
it's got an instant ttk though 
silk sluice
Been using the M44 as a pocket sniper <:LULW:586010901417558016>
I don't know anyone who runs the 4x scope
limpid pond
Got Luke 700 kills with it. Idk if I wanna continue
limpid pond
It's somehow worse than dozers mastery challenge
silk sluice
Why can't they just make dozer's mastery damage blocked instead of kills
People might start playing defensively
limpid pond
I feel like his challenge should be grenades eaten
pine roost
or protect their teammates
silk sluice
Most grenades sat on
limpid pond
Just eat some nades
silk sluice
Can't wait for the class system tbh. It won't drastically impact gameplay but it'll be kinda nice
pine roost
I can't wait for the aircraft to get some bugfixes and qol stuff :)
would be very nice
robust ember
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limpid pond
I can't wait for the aircraft to get some bugfixes and qol stuff :)
I hope choppers get nerfed like the bolte
robust ember
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silk sluice
2042 just needs more vehicles in general
limpid pond
Remember how busted the boltes were during laynch?
pine roost
make the current ones better first
pine roost
not what I meant, I know they are very strong right now, but they just aren't fun
limpid pond
They are. You xan decimate a lobby with the stealth chopper alone
I don't know how to fly so I don't use them
I've been tryna learn in the heli exp farm server and I kinda got the basics
pine roost
They are missing some 'legacy features' that I can't live without
limpid pond
But I still choke and end up crashing but not nearly as much as I use too
Jets are easy to fly imo
pine roost
easy to fly but still not fun, that's the main issue I have as a whole right now
limpid pond
Eh I have some fun in a jet
pine roost
infantry is getting better, slowly. But the aircraft were a part of the game I was really hoping to master
but I've been waiting since season 1 for them to revert what they did to the nightbird that I've been blabbering on about
limpid pond
What did they do to the nightbird
pine roost
they absically made it drunk
pine roost
you tilt to the side, let go of controls it it tilts back without any input
it constantly fights against your aim, and I cannot stand it
limpid pond
Weird I haven't noticed that whenever I use it sometimes
pine roost
it's clear what's happened, something in the code has made the heli flight assist option forcefully enabled with no way to turn it off
pine roost
Weird I haven't noticed that whenever I use it sometimes
don't think it's an issue on console
but so few people fly it's hard to tell
limpid pond
I normally die to minibirds single handly targeting me running to a building
pine roost
but I got a friend on pc to boot it up and he had the exact same issue as me
to a tee
limpid pond
I see countless minibird players
They're annoying and target me hard for some reason
Like I have the worst luck with choppers
They actually focus me all the time
Same with tanks
pine roost
the maps make it hard to avoid
but you just need to be aware of where they are and how to block line of sight
and be lucky
which you aren't 
limpid pond
Yeah like here
I'll send in a second
Like why me man
There's like 10 other people
cosmic storm
You look delicious maybe
pine roost
that's the map having like no cover whatsoever
pine roost
oh god yeah the latvs with the 30mms and 50mms
don't know why they did that
but oh well
limpid pond
Yeah I have worse ones especially from choppers and tanks
pine roost
isn't it one?
limpid pond
Like dudes will have grenade pods and perfectly kill me from a whole building away
pine roost
I feel like it was one shot with the recoilless
grizzled whale
could be 1
pine roost
i was in a bot lobby and could take them out in one before
will probably test it out later
limpid pond
It's only 1 shot with the recoiled if it hit you inside the vehicle
Other than that it's a 2 shot
If you hit the driver or player inside the vehicle it kills the player
pine roost
dunno what I was thinking of then
limpid pond
If you shoot just the back then it goes down to 30 hp
pine roost
perhaps my targets were on lower health
limpid pond
Probably
grizzled whale
It's only 1 shot with the recoiled if it hit you inside the vehicle
can it hit someone inside that one tho?
limpid pond
I die out of latvs all the time to a recoiless then just spawn near it again and hop in then chill
limpid pond
can it hit someone inside that one tho?
The latv? Yep
Just shoot near the window area and it'll kill them easily
grizzled whale
oh i thought we were talking about the C-rams
mental delta
Did some of you actually find some season 3 intels in the game ?
mental delta
Not me but someone did apparently
What did they find pls ? 
pine roost
anime skins
limpid pond
Apparently a new operator that has an rc car or something
pine roost
that was a temporyal leak from months ago
grizzled whale
anime skins
limpid pond
Someone said something about it today
mental delta
Apparently a new operator that has an rc car or something
Yeah but like Fix Aircraft said it, this was from data mining post months ago and wasn't found ingame
mental delta
anime skins
You better be wrong ngl 
pine roost
I'm sure the portable TV was only discovered a week or so before season 1
so the rc car was probably scrapped
pine roost
You better be wrong ngl <:RaccoonGun:769382531338338365>
I want to be wrong
mental delta
I want to be wrong
I want you to be wrong too
limpid pond
@lucid goblet nice t1 on the wildcat
lucid goblet
<@216307162106822659> nice t1 on the wildcat
limpid pond
Wildcat t1 skin looks clean.
lucid goblet
Indeed, looks really nice
T1 on MAV looks good too
3 weeks,i assume anyway, as that's when the current weekly missions end 😉
lucid goblet
would make sense
limpid pond
It's either 22nd or 29th
lucid goblet
but nothings been announced yet
limpid pond
Exactly
pine roost
all good things come to those who wait
limpid pond
I'm waiting for them to at the ump
Heard it's coming in season 3
I'm excited if it is
pine roost
sorry but 'Diesel and Dread' sounds like a comedy show
limpid pond
Dread some diesel
lucid goblet
Looking forward to see how they do the class reworks
lone void
I'm sure the portable TV was only discovered a week or so before season 1
Portable TV?
limpid pond
Yeah I think it could bring back a bit of the community
pine roost
Portable TV?
lis rocket
lone void
Oh
limpid pond
Nah it's a wireless box tv that runs off batteries
You run around with it in your hands and proceed to die because it serves no purpose
pine roost
you show people clips of the old end of round screen and it just kills them
limpid pond
Yes with the voice lines and old character models
lone void
you show people clips of the old end of round screen and it just kills them
Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes
lone void
Yes with the voice lines and old character models
Character models non issue, always use the skins that cover their faces
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lone void
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/923899875639304232/s...
Thank you, I wanted to post this but I am unable 
limpid pond
limpid pond
No
pine roost
maybe?
lone void
Read the blog post on #948574259209437264
It details everything they have on classes atm, from specialists to gadgets
limpid pond
As long as I can keep my medpen for paik I'm cool
lone void
No
limpid pond
If they. Throw out my medpen I'm super sad
lone void
Med pen is currently set to be assault only
limpid pond
I'm gonna cru
Medpen is so good
I don't run falck because no one revives and I'll be stuck doing it all the time
Ugh
pine roost
You know what would fix that
limpid pond
Falcks also rarely ever use their pistol except on themselves
pine roost
a weapon restriction on medics, giving them the best guns :)
lone void
Ta da
limpid pond
Wait so I gotta run a insertion beacon?
Guess I'm playing medic from now on
It's okay I guess. Been wanting to try out the smoke gernade gun anyways
I was a medic in bf 1 and 5 too so it's not to bad
pine roost
I stick by his side and save his ass whenever I can
limpid pond
Trust me I say thank you. I rarely get ressed
pine roost
- respect
limpid pond
Normally medics just stand near me with a sniper and insta die
Should be a positive thing
I can adapt
pine roost
that's just the players lacking awareness
limpid pond
I just like paik for seeing through smoke and spotting campers
I've saved countless squads grim getting mowed down by a corner camper with a lmg
next onyx
Classes will help with general consistencies and identification.
Instead of going oh a mackay I will end up thinking Oh an assault that is very most likely caryying c5.
ancient peak
Eh… it’s not like classes back in the day did any better or worse
pine roost
I feel like it would create a different feel to the overall team dynamic, especially given what the assaults have
ancient peak
You’ll still have bad medics
next onyx
Honestly. I prefer the class sytem.
limpid pond
Classes will be good and bring some people back for sure
limpid pond
It just sucks cause I wish I had medpen on paik
next onyx
Yeah I wish I could abuse repair tool irish to the fullest but nah.
limpid pond
But it's okay I'll have to level 1000 falck instead
next onyx
I can abuse repair tool irish now but it won't be the say.
next onyx
I'll still be abusing Mackay but I hope they'll nerf nimble a do a little tiny buff on Assault with assault rifles.
Irish becoming even better of a character will be nice.
still vault
technically we don't know what they will do
pine roost
gib every character nimble pls
pine roost
even speeds across the board is something I'd like
limpid pond
You could actually be spiderman
next onyx
If they give assault a 40 to 60% ADS movement speed with assault rifles that'd be nice.
But I think that might be a bit too powerful.
pine roost
One thing I would like to try is a high strafe / movement speed mode with a slightly higher ttk
I think that would be an interesting concept to try out
arctic grove
High strafing + movement speeds will lead to bunnyhops.
pine roost
exactly
arctic grove
But why?
tepid agate
Wth bf1 has gone to the top as the most popular Battlefield game now on Steam:
Bf1 - 32.8k
Bfv - 12k
2042 - 4.6k
This crazy
robust ember
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pine roost
but movement speed multiplier only seems to go up to 1.2x
arctic grove
Please consider the time of day and the fact that data is on steam charts which does not include cross play.
pine roost
most servers I found on EU were full
tepid agate
Popping off like crazy
pine roost
you absolutely sure your browser filters are right?
tepid agate
Apparently bf1 had a big discount on Steam so many players playing it
pine roost
I got it for free with prime a while back, didn't get it at launch because frankly I wasn't a fan of the setting
tepid agate
2042 needs to go free to play I think players won't be mad anymore of it did
Really?
still vault
Players not go mad? Lol
brittle forge
tbh I don’t even know if f2p would help at this point
next onyx
Free weekend would be nice.
cosmic sequoia
Yeah please go f2p
next onyx
Or a free week.
lunar finch
2042 needs to go free to play I think players won't be mad anymore of it did
What would paid players get?
cosmic sequoia
It would help player count a lot
ancient peak
Going F2P before year 1 is complete is going to hurt more than help
lunar finch
Infinite boins!???
tepid agate
What would paid players get?
Nothing they had a year early access basically
next onyx
Free to play yeah no.
cosmic sequoia
What would paid players get?
Faster and fuller lobbies hahah
brittle forge
It would help player count a lot
The player count wouldn’t be a problem if they just gave AoW a server browser
cosmic sequoia
The player count wouldn’t be a problem if they just gave AoW a server browser
This
lunar finch
Faster and fuller lobbies hahah
I mean as a NA player my lobbies are always full
royal swan
Nah, would make the people who payed 120 or 60 bucks mad
cosmic sequoia
Well*
next onyx
Nothing they had a year early access basically
Full price for a barely finished product versus playing the game for nothing when its been patched up. That makes perfect sense.
lunar finch
Idk how it is in other regions byt
Only time the matchmaking was eh was mw2 launch day
still vault
I have no troubles finding games. Play full 128p AOW all the time.
brittle forge
BF4 doesn’t have that many players but it’s fine because the servers are browsable and you don’t have to rely on DICE’s braindead matchmaking
cosmic sequoia
Nah, would make the people who payed 120 or 60 bucks mad
Meh. It’s only $120, and that was a year ago. Could be on sale for $20 permanently
next onyx
Considering how far this game is into its life cycle it won't help.
tepid agate
Nah, would make the people who payed 120 or 60 bucks mad
That was in the past when it was speculation player got upset but now I think time is good for it
next onyx
All it needs is a server browser for all out warfare with player persistent lobbies and your population problem is solved.
tepid agate
Full price for a barely finished product versus playing the game for nothing whe...
They shouldn't draw last players than older titles. F2p would surely boost it
next onyx
To a degree.
cosmic sequoia
We need mother fucking better map rotations
brittle forge
I still haven’t able to to play the new orbital on conquest cause it keeps putting me into fucking renewal or stranded for 20 matches this week and the last when Master at Arms Conquest is literally 3 maps
cosmic sequoia
I played my first hourglass match last night in probably a month
royal swan
This is an EA game, it will never go f2p without hurting the game
next onyx
Yeah ok but people paying full price for a game that hardly functioned is an insult.
brittle forge
I literally left a renewal queue game four times last night and they kept re-queueing me for the same game
cosmic sequoia
Lmao
still vault
All it needs is a server browser for all out warfare with player persistent lobb...
I can understand how those 2 things are nice but how would they help with population?
cosmic sequoia
Server browser is legacy
next onyx
I am aware sales exist.
tepid agate
It's been a year I think annoyed players about the launch conditioning and game experience have gave up and moved on. Make it f2p I say
cosmic sequoia
God the portal server browser actually blows ass
next onyx
I can understand how those 2 things are nice but how would they help with popula...
People wouldn't be leaving the games all the time so they'd actually constantly be full 95% of the time.
People can actually choose and see what game modes are being played.
I literally have zero idea if breakthrough is being played at any time because I can't see the full servers.
tepid agate
What do you think the reason is that the team don't want to entertain adding a server browser?
cosmic sequoia
Then we can see numbers hahah
brittle forge
Because it actually tells you how many people are playing the game in your region
royal swan
Server management
tepid agate
We can see number in Portal
cosmic sequoia
Yeah but not everyone plays portal and for good reason
brittle forge
We can see number in Portal
Yeah but nobody plays portal anyway unless you’re into the freaking XP grind Hardcore 800% damage shit cause that’s all that it is
next onyx
No idea. Maybe because this game really was meant to be something else which is why they omitted many features. Scoreboard, squad management, server browser, player persistent lobbies for all out warfare but the last part makes zero sense because the game can do it is literally in portal.
cosmic sequoia
Yeah feels bad
tepid agate
No idea. Maybe because this game really was meant to be something else which is ...
Scoreboard. That was a good one 😄
cosmic sequoia
Squad management system is like ??? Went from bf5 amazing system to this
next onyx
I want this game to do well but its hard to forget about all these cut features.
tepid agate
See if you can do bf1 it popping
next onyx
FFA is fun.
brittle forge
The fact that we don’t have proper squad management almost a year later is pathetic honestly
still vault
I literally have zero idea if breakthrough is being played at any time because I...
I guess there might be some unique information that would be nice in low pop regions / times. But otherwise you would now now just click join and get into the fullest server with a spot left.
tepid agate
I want this game to do well but its hard to forget about all these cut features.
Me too but it's hard to believe it will. A year later and half year through live service
royal swan
Give bf1 a month until it's players would reduce to normal
brittle forge
It’s not that hard to do especially since the change squad feature is already there you just gotta have a UI page
tepid agate
Give bf1 a month until it's players would reduce to normal
Normal is still higher than 2042 lol
next onyx
Yeah I don't have that luxury of being put in an empty slot because the only breakthrough server that is up, if it's there. Is full.
royal swan
Normal is still higher than 2042 lol
Do I care
pine roost
I can understand how those 2 things are nice but how would they help with popula...
I would be able to play the maps I want, not keep requeing only to then give up and leave. I could have social interactions with people and compete for score against people in my lobby, that kind of competition is fun. And hopefully the time i takes to actually get into a match would be reduced. That's what I'd gain most from it
cosmic storm
next onyx
Hey do you want a small chance to play the map you actually want to play instead of playing on a map rotation???
royal swan
Wonder when they start ending multiplayer servers for older battlefield games
next onyx
At least on a rotation you know it's coming
And you can enjoy yourself while you wait.
I literally sit through panzerstorm on bf5, a map I'm indifferent to for Provence which is a good map.
tepid agate
Wonder when they start ending multiplayer servers for older battlefield games
They won't if they are more populated than the current one
pine roost
I remember playing some bf1 and meeting someone who I'd met a few days prior, and he was amazing. Super friendly and even critiqued my gameplay mid match. My first time beating his kill count was a tremendous moment
brittle forge
Wonder when they start ending multiplayer servers for older battlefield games
Given that the community can host their own the only ones I think can be shut off for good are BF1 and BFV which are too recent
next onyx
I remember playing some bf1 and meeting someone who I'd met a few days prior, an...
HA good shit.
Keep it going.
!
safe inlet
Wonder when they start ending multiplayer servers for older battlefield games
Probably not for a longggg while
brittle forge
GameSpy almost killed the really old ones by the community just hosted a new server base
tepid agate
I remember playing some bf1 and meeting someone who I'd met a few days prior, an...
I met someone on Hell Let Loose complaining about 2042 lol
safe inlet
Too many people still playing them and spending money on them
still vault
I want this game to do well but its hard to forget about all these cut features.
From a game creator perspective, the major part of the gamers probably prefers not having to use a server browser or suffer from the issues a server browser introduces: like only playing the same maps, more uneven teams, on average larger ping deviations etc.
From a lot of perspectives no server browser is actually a feature.
I'm not saying I agree ofc., but I do think it is important to be able to see both viewpoints when discussing things like server browsers.
next onyx
I've tried to understand the other end of the viewpoint but I literally can't understand.
I know what you're saying.
tepid agate
From a game creator perspective, the major part of the gamers probably prefers n...
Devs will compensate and give more skins and carry more portal wepaons over
next onyx
But I just can't see proper reason on the other side.
cosmic storm
You need to put them on the first "row" of attachments on your weapon
royal swan
No it should be saved on the + system
next onyx
Yeah first slot is your default.
brittle forge
From a game creator perspective, the major part of the gamers probably prefers n...
I don’t think any of these are legitimate concerns if all the servers were official with set rotations like what most of them are in BF1 and BFV. Maybe the ping one but if they keep enough official servers in a decent regions which they should be doing for their latest game it should be OK.
If they don’t then EA isn’t investing enough in its own flagship shooter which is kind of a them problem
next onyx
Ping dice has already overdone and made overseas play harder than it should be.
And stacks do happen no matter what sadly
brittle forge
Uneven teams was more or less solved back in battlefield four as the team balancers more or less were OK. It could get annoying if it happened mid match but they usually did an OK job of somewhat balancing the games
next onyx
Bf4 team balancers were annoying but they did what they did.
still vault
I don’t think any of these are legitimate concerns if all the servers were offic...
Many people only want to play 1 map. So when the server goes to next map they will leave and join a server playing the map they want to play. Causing a lot of leaving and joining of servers which cause uneven teams and poor in-game situations.
brittle forge
BFV didn’t have this at all for some reason so you’d have servers that had half of their team leave and it wouldn’t move anybody over
pine roost
that was very annoying
still vault
Uneven teams was more or less solved back in battlefield four as the team balanc...
Except people were constantly complaining about being switched between teams even with the best team switching addons. Again, a pro and a con of everthing.
next onyx
And that's the unfortunate reality. Luckily not too many people leave and the momentum can be retained quite easily some times.
Bf5's balancer was a shuffler and God it was annoying.
No mid round balancer nuh uh.
Don't want a bf1 again.
brittle forge
Except people were constantly complaining about being switched between teams eve...
I did acknowledge that it could get annoying in fairness to me. But I’d much rather prefer that than the BFV “28 vs 10 people because we’re too scared to switch everybody over” bs. I think you could even say that’s the objectively better way to do it since more people would leave if the match is that lopsided
brittle forge
Battlefield 2042’s solution of this is just filling empty spots with bots but obviously while that can help with at least having something to do they aren’t exactly fun to fight and some people don’t like having them on the same battlefield as real players
Since they can distract you from actual threats
I don’t mind the bots but it is a bandaid of 2042’s problems
next onyx
They feel so unrewarding to kill jesus.
brittle forge
Just watching them try to move around the map is kind of a slapstick comedy at times
next onyx
Would love a lethal fear like Ai.
brittle forge
they just nonchalantly jog everywhere lol
next onyx
Toned back a little but genuinely frightening to fight.
brittle forge
I don’t think they need to be smarter but I do think they need to act more like the grunts from Titanfall where they have a bunch more animations and interact with the environment more for the sake of immersion
Like a busting through a wall with a tank and having a squad of AI bots in front of you like visibly freak out, scramble on the ground and try and get away would be pretty funny
Cause that’s what the grunts did with the Titans and it was kind of a nice touch every time you saw it
next onyx
I had an enemy bot on a quad bike drive past me and didn't notice me at all.
chilly jacinth
personally i would like the Ai to not steal my vehicle and not drive us straight into death
brittle forge
personally i would like the Ai to not steal my vehicle and not drive us straight...
“Gentlemen, today we RIDE”
blasts Free Bird and drives a 4x4 recon towards 3 enemy tanks and a stealth helicopter
still vault
When discussing Battlefield you should also be aware of the player BIAS issue. Most Battlefield players have that one game they remember fondly, often the one that made them a Battlefield fan. The one you and your friends played for hours, you had plenty of time to play it, and it was great.
As a gamer, that game you will be biased towards, and it's systems and mechanics too. You might think those systems will work in 2022 because they worked back then - it might have been perfect at the time. And while it might not be the best or what the majority want anymore you will still champion it as the best.
Many will have such a game. And that is why the community will never agree more and more as a franchise gets older.
For me it is probably the first Battlefield Vietnam, at the time I had so much fun, but looking back now, the mechanics and the execution would be quite poor if copied 1:1 in a game today.
cosmic sequoia
It’s funny hearing the mixed reactions on bots haha.
People on Reddit “I love this mode, I love just chilling and killing bots!”
Discord it’s like “fuck the bots, give me my money back”
Usually it’s vice versa with Reddit being the platform that absolutely loathes every part of this game
brittle forge
When discussing Battlefield you should also be aware of the player BIAS issue. M...
I mean I’m biased toward the older games sure but what I’m talking about was persisted across more than the one of the older games. I’m not saying BF3/BF4/BF1’s gunplay would be good today, I’m saying their server browsers would be, which I think is a fair statement to make. It’s just kind of comes across as trying to poorly justify some of 2042’s more nonsensical changes as “well the old times can’t last forever”. That’s a true statement but when it comes to server browser I think literally nobody would freak out and stop playing the game if Dice just added it as an option to use. And I think the majority of players that have talked on the issue say they would like to have it. Of course you have the “silent majority” or whatever but again there really isn’t any reason they would dislike this being added if the matchmaking was still present, or even any reason they would have a dog in this fight in the first place. It’s another to find games, not changing how you play the game
brittle forge
I think the statement would apply more to re-introducing the classic battlefield classes where people who aren’t battlefield fans might actually legitimately dislike the change and say it doesn’t fit the game and honestly they might be right at this point
next onyx
I always try to look at things from a functional standpoint to eliminate as much bias I can.
brittle forge
I think the bots are fine and I think the solo mode is a great alternative to the firing range from battlefield 4 I just don’t think they’re particularly compelling to fight but they don’t need to be. As a game filler I think it’s a Band-Aid fix for the poor matchmaking system or low population
next onyx
Try to see how it pans out, etc.
brittle forge
But it is a fix of sorts which is better than nothing
still vault
My prediction if server browser was introduced: half would love it, half would hate it 
brittle forge
I legitimately don’t see any segment of the people still playing the game that would dislike it unless it just flat out replaced the quick join option and it was the only way to find games.
next onyx
I don't think many people will care in all honesty.
It's not a matter of hate it's just a matter of who understands its value.
brittle forge
I do think this class rework is going to get a lot criticism both from long time fans and from the people who started with 2042 or just more recently
next onyx
Wow a server browser better give this a go.
What's a server browser.
Literally that's how it'll go for the people who don't care for it.
royal swan
They should have a system that makes you pick a map on the mode you want to play and it will find an available server for you
next onyx
Yeah they should at least allow us to blacklist maps
If they're gonna force feed us this shit matchmaking system.
low timber
Odd that people aren’t making AoW stuff in Portal because it has the server browser, other than Hardcore and boosting servers of course
next onyx
No I don't want to play hour glass. Piss off.
Game queues you in the same lobby 5 times
brittle forge
Cause some of these changes and the “debates” about them I feel are kind of artificial. Like the scoreboard before it was fixed. Some people were taking dices reasoning of peer pressure and toxicity or whatever, literally no one, new or old fan, was talking about the scoreboard making them uncomfortable and saying they wanted it replaced before that point
next onyx
I remember a dev coming out and mentioning they didn't add it because of toxicity.
brittle forge
I remember a dev coming out and mentioning they didn't add it because of toxicit...
I’ve heard every reasoning under the sun for that change to the point where I don’t know what the actual one was
For all I know the UI guy left right before they shipped the game and they couldn’t get it finished I have no idea
next onyx
I can understand people talking shit about peoples performance in game but as whole its an important tool for information.
How well the enemy team is doing, etc.
Yeah I have my theory but that's not it..
brittle forge
I always like to know how I’m doing in comparison to everyone else at least on my own team
If only if I need to say “oh I was doing pretty well” or “oh I could’ve stepped up my game more, Maybe I shouldn’t have fucked around with assignments for as long”
next onyx
Such as this game been meaning to be something else a full sized scoreboard wouldn't have made sense which is why it just applied your squad stats. Not both teams.
Yeah.
I used it to see how the enemy team is struggling.
And my own.
ashen comet
its a good way to know if i need to pick it up or if im doing just fine
next onyx
Yeah.
slate meadow
way how are the server populations for you being there?
next onyx
Was in the same lobby as silk earlier. Was fun racing for kills.
It's ok.
It dies out round midnight which is normal.
brittle forge
Odd that people aren’t making AoW stuff in Portal because it has the server brow...
I thought about using my premium server slot to just make an all out war server that only has the good maps on conquest large/breakthrough. Literally nothing changed except the map rotation
next onyx
But it usually starts round 10 to 11 am.
slate meadow
yeah the reason i ask is im EU servers and midnight comes and its litrally struggling to fill 64 player lobbies
ashen comet
theres no one playing NA rn
next onyx
Reminds me.
brittle forge
yeah the reason i ask is im EU servers and midnight comes and its litrally strug...
I usually don’t have a problem during peak hours but it gets kinda dry later yeah in NA. I can always find games for conquest for breakthrough I start to run into the same lobby over and over