battlefield-2042

[slender isle]

everything on top of that is extra

By BP content I'm including weapons and specialist

[hearty flame]

lol mw2 hasnt completely removed a gameplay pillar from the game, or made all their launch maps horrendous

[arctic grove]

if youre implying bf2 and bfv got support cut cause of covid then sure but i mean

[slender isle]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[arctic grove]

they worked on 2042 through covid

[sharp marten]

Bf2042 Y2 baybee

[slender isle]

I laugh at anyone who says the MW2 maps are good

[arctic grove]

why go to a brand new engine and entirely different game through covid after cutting support to two games for covid

[slender isle]

Not a new engine, upgrade version of frostbite 3

Plus, entirely new team

[arctic grove]

yeah i mean new frostbite, mb

but an entirely new team is only another factor to not authorize work on a new game through COVID

assuming thats the reason they cut support for two games in the first place

[slender isle]

I think that's EAs fault. Not really the new DICE team.

[arctic grove]

well thats who im talking about is EA

[slender isle]

okay yeah cool, we both agree it was shit to pull them off to work on 2042, jus for them to rush the release for investors

BFV wasn't hitting sale targets, bf2 had been out for 2 years at this point

[hearty flame]

i doubt its ea. theyve shown themselves to be rather hands off. they let titanfall 2 launch between bf and cod and let bioware trash themselves with anthem and andromeda

[arctic grove]

well you implied covid is why even after a major content update BFV got the plug pulled

i asked if that was the case then why amongst all negative factors did they start working on a new one

[slender isle]

bfV at the time had less players (even after the major updates) than bf4

[arctic grove]

damn was the launch reception that bad for that game?

[hearty flame]

got receipts for those claims

[arctic grove]

if thats true then sheesh but yeah

how do u know

[slender isle]

They literally said to not buy the game if you don't like it lmao

[hearty flame]

its not true at all because we have no numbers

all we have are vague sales figures

[slender isle]

You can literally go look for yourself lmao

[arctic grove]

are you talking about steam charts

[slender isle]

bfV had less players than bf1 at the time of the pacific update

bf4 had very similar player count as bf1

[hearty flame]

battlefield stopped releasing pop numbers after 4

you pulling shit outta nowhere

[slender isle]

because of the dreadful launch of 2042, people flocked to bfV saying its an amazing game lmao

If you stuck with bfV through its life cycle you'll know it was anything but good for most of it's life cycle

It still isn't amazing

[slender isle]

You're kidding right?

[hearty flame]

they literally had an apk tracker with that one system they dropped that could be used to track user numbers

[slender isle]

Bf1 is probably like the most popular bf game to date lmao, mainly due to it selling more numbers than infinite warefare and that trailer reception

[hearty flame]

other than that we got nothing

so youre just going off sales figures? that tells us nothing about over time than just after a period of time

[slender isle]

What? I can't use sale figures? the BF games prior to V weren't released on anything we could actually see numbers on until early last year

bf4 and bf1 were launched on origin, and we know they sold a fuck ton

way more than V

[hearty flame]

you cant because youre comparing playerbases at certain times vs where we get sales figures at random times after launch
not great comparisons because they arent direct

[slender isle]

bf1 has stayed consistent for most of it's life cycle

bfV had the same problem that 2042 has

where the launch was terrible

but it also had terrible post launch content and gameplay changes including KD and weapon handling

2042 at least has good post launch content

[hearty flame]

im not arguing that cuz i agree
what i am arguing is player count cuz we dont have that

and we cant

they sure as hell wont tell us how bad a game is doing lol

[slender isle]

BfV is at 7000 players last month

[arctic grove]

the misconception that whatever steam charts says reflects the actual playerbase of a game is weird

[slender isle]

2042 at 5000

[arctic grove]

it really needs to end in gaming

[slender isle]

bf1 at 4000

[slender isle]

Most popular gaming platform on PC

PC is the most popular gaming platform

[arctic grove]

i dont know if its true but steam apparently does not record origin/ea app, and theres always what most people play on anyways that being a console

[hearty flame]

not definitive sure but can infer trends and stuff

[arctic grove]

yea for sure

but the way fish is wording it makes me say that

like i doubt that just cause steam has a set amount of players console is under that when for all we know it supercedes it by at least 1k players at the most? thats just what i think though

[slender isle]

okay so, bfV had less players a year into it's life cycle than 2042 has ever had. like in june of 2020 it had an average of 1600 players on steam. 2042's lowest avg has been 1900

that's off steam charts

does that kinda show how bad launch content was for bfV on steam anyways

[hearty flame]

i mean bfv didnt launch on steam at first

it came later no?

[slender isle]

it launched on steam

9 of november of 2018

[hearty flame]

nope it launched on steam in 2020

just googled that

you can literally see it on the steamcharts lol

what are you even saying

[slender isle]

That's my bad, I read release date as the steam release (since a fair few games will put that there)

[hearty flame]

we all slip up here and there

[slender isle]

Yeah

but still

bf1 had more players at the same time

as did bf4

on steam at least

and I think they released at the same time on steam at least

[slender isle]

Can we agree on that?

wait nvm, bf1 beat it a few months after lmao

I'm reading them backwards

this is good info though. bf1 sold 5.1 million copies on xbox one alone. while bfV only sold 7.3 million on all platforms in the first year.

and then 2042 sold like 4.3 in the first week

which is fucked

[hearty flame]

I dont think ea has released an official sales numbers

cuz that was a leak from henderson

some will take it and others wont

[slender isle]

Oh i just saw it on gamerant lmao

[hearty flame]

but they did go out of the way to avoid talk about how it sold when talking to investors

sooo it didnt sell great to them lol

[slender isle]

Maybe not

but everything that doesn't sell as good as fifa is a disappointment for EA

[hearty flame]

theres apex

[slender isle]

That sells a fuck ton though holy hell

[hearty flame]

it makes a shit ton more money than bf but costs a whole lot less

[slender isle]

That store is like a gold mine

[hearty flame]

ya. bf is AAA game that needs multiple maps and modes and shit

apex is 1 map, some characters and a shit ton of skins

overhead is virtually nil

[slender isle]

Which I mean is good

EA already has their warzone, so they'll hopefully not turn BF into the same thing

[hearty flame]

oh no they wont be happy with 1 warzone

theyll want more

[slender isle]

but anyways, Currently bf2042 is the second most played bf game on steam

[slender isle]

Which is annoying... fifa battle royale?

[hearty flame]

lol turn it into blood bowl

[slender isle]

Would be a better game tbh

Hardline has 6 players on steam lmao

It hasn't had over 300 concurrent players on it since it's release on steam

@hearty flame Would you feel good with 2042 if it had a free weekend start/mid of S3? How does that sound in terms of like whatever we were talking about earlier I've forgotten lmao

[arctic grove]

in terms of hypothetic scenarios

if 2042 gets a year 2, rework the melee system, re-add movement mechanics from bfv, add 'milsim' "specialist" for factions

i dont mind the idea of a year 2 but the dissenting arguments towards it make sense to me

[slender isle]

I think year 2 (realistically) would be what we have now, but with a second map each season. Be it a portal map or a new map I don't mind. Then we'll probably see more "realistic" skins come in for all the specialists (like we are now).

[arctic grove]

ive always thought though that with 2042 or the next battlefield game theyll try a 2 year support cycle since we've seen CoD do it

[slender isle]

Thought the same thing myself

[hearty flame]

i think that doing a free weekend could kinda go either way
either people realise that its gotten better
or people realise that supports been lacking and decide not to invest in 2042

[limpid pond]

Nah yo 100% aim assist only works for people who play onna low sense

[hearty flame]

that and 2042 already has a shit reputation

[edgy oriole]

a few months before 2042 was released EA said they want bf on a 2-3 year cycle

[hearty flame]

word of mouth is more memes than anything

[slender isle]

So if, after the class change, they do a free weekend. Do you think they'd gain players?

[limpid pond]

I bumped my sense down to 37 and got aim assist bumped it back up to 50 and get no slowdown whatsoever

[arctic grove]

i turned mine down to 75

[sharp marten]

Are we coming up on week 10 or 11?

[limpid pond]

I use to play on 90 but stick drift was really bad

[slender isle]

11 I think

[hearty flame]

dont think so. people would go in expecting classes and see the abomination of a specialist-class system vs what they expected from a bf

[arctic grove]

damn imagine a bf game with 3 years of support

[limpid pond]

I play on 50 now and whwn I get a new controller I bump it up to 90

[arctic grove]

that would have like 200 guns end game

[slender isle]

But it's the same system as BFV but with no gun restrictions

[limpid pond]

I think 2042 would have been good if they 1 had original movement and 2 overall had a launch with actual content

[hearty flame]

characters with annoying personalities, special gadgets, perks, not limited weapons

[slender isle]

bfV had special gadgets, perks, elites, annoying personalities but with limited weapons

[hearty flame]

elites were skins not quippy people, special gadgets werent attached to said quippies, and perks were per class and not per quippy either

[slender isle]

and tbh I think with what they are doing with the class system will be good, especially with the weapon stuff. Having classes more preficient with certain weapons but still able to use others will mean more classes being seen on the battlefield

[slender isle]

But they don't quip... anymore at least

[hearty flame]

dice is gonna add them back

[slender isle]

plus, classes have been quipping since bf3 lmao

if you're talking about in game ones

[arctic grove]

not really tbh

like yea if you mean the funny things theyd blurt out mid game then ehhhhh

[slender isle]

It's the same thing isn't it?

[arctic grove]

i'd rather hear get your dong in the dirt than "WELL WELL WELL THAT WAS FUN"

[slender isle]

They haven't said that for like 6 months now lmao (pretty sure)

[arctic grove]

and in 1 its just

screams

[hearty flame]

man the VA in 1 was stellar

[next onyx]

Think I played with 75 in game sens and 80% aim assist.

[arctic grove]

yeah ik but just because they werent serious 100% of the time doesnt excuse 2042s horrid quips

[next onyx]

Zoom snap completely off.

[slender isle]

But they aren't even in the game anymore

so I can excuse it because it's not there

[arctic grove]

this is all i am referring to

it doesnt make it any better in 2042s cause since those quips were awful when they were there

i wouldnt mind them coming back as long as they dont act like disney characters

[slender isle]

But like I'm not gonna criticize them for something not even in the game anymore

[arctic grove]

i always proposed having them say things like talking to themselves about a family member back at home or something

[sharp marten]

Hi way

[slender isle]

They do that with each other, especially when reviving. Had dozer tell falk "you should be the one doing this" lmao

[hearty flame]

Ill criticize them for even thinking about it though lol
i mean what WERE they thinking
oh no climate change and freak weather
"angel does it again" " well well well" "what a time to be alive"

they be huffin their own shit up there in their intestines

[arctic grove]

yeah its fair to criticize them still cause who authorized them in the first place

[slender isle]

Probably the head of the team, Mr battlefield lmao

[next onyx]

Hey Preston. How goes it.

[arctic grove]

im talking about the end of round quips, not them saying anything in general

[next onyx]

Their mid round lines aren't even that bad.

[arctic grove]

but damn thats funny ngl, makes the specialists seem more likeable when they have those 'human' interactions

[slender isle]

Okay yeah fair enough. End of round quips are gone though so I'm not gonna complain about anything that's disappeared completely from the game. Even if they bring them back with a serious tone.

[arctic grove]

thats why i dont think them being serious 100% of the time is a good thing just... dont do it the way they did with the EoR quips

[slender isle]

oh 100%

[next onyx]

I think when Irish is reviving dozer he says his wife will kill him if he doesn't get him home.

[slender isle]

the actual conversations between specialists is great, end of round quips bad

but end of round quips gone, convos still here. game better for it

[hearty flame]

or just drop it all and go back to being faceless cogs in the machine soldiers

[arctic grove]

dont give me hope

[hearty flame]

can makes comments and stuff but no characters with unique faces and names

[next onyx]

Bf5 had the best balance.

[slender isle]

Yeah yeah yeah not for this game lmao

[slender isle]

Prior to the elite skins yeah

[next onyx]

Elites were good.

[arctic grove]

imagine me saying YES but 900 more times in this message since if i actually do it ill get warned for spam

[slender isle]

not that damn movie star lmao

[next onyx]

Gave us that itch. Genuinely interesting characters.

Keisuke, Misaki, Hannah and Ilse were the coolest.

The Japanese pilot was funny.

[slender isle]

The ones I didn't like was the movie dude, sea captain and the mfs with the gas masks

[arctic grove]

i wonder if it would be plausible to rework the specialists into 'elites' and reintroduce standard grunts, their gadgets could just become class-specific gadgets or something

[hearty flame]

lol dice wont do that

[arctic grove]

tgm as a standard engie launcher

[next onyx]

Who knows. It's too late to make any changes.

Like that.

[arctic grove]

yeah i know, im just debating the legalities of it

[slender isle]

The thing is, there are unlockable skins which do exactly what you ask. Making you look like a standard grunt

[arctic grove]

no not at all

[hearty flame]

still a quippy at the end of the day

[arctic grove]

what would be a standard grunt would be the AI skins

[next onyx]

Oh definitely its fun to theorise around it.

[arctic grove]

thus i will say for the 94954935594th time

make bf2042 ai based models playable

[slender isle]

Theres always been quippy shit in bf. THere are no end of round quips anymore so I don't even know what you are referring to

[arctic grove]

well

[hearty flame]

if it took a year for dice to consider gameplay changes like classes
who knows how long itll take them to consider ai skins

[arctic grove]

they have squad screen quips

[next onyx]

Best squad was better.

[slender isle]

People praise BC2 campaign then hate what the specialists say mid game lmao

[arctic grove]

my live reaction

to that

[hearty flame]

i miss when best squad screen was actually on the map and not in some random hangar

[slender isle]

Yeah, but Falks one is literally her saying "lets go" in german lmao

[arctic grove]

mackays mt everest thing is pretty quippy

[next onyx]

Auf gits?

[arctic grove]

also i always wondered what it was she was saying so thats interesting to know

[slender isle]

That's mackays entire personality, he's literally canadian lmao

[slender isle]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

lmao yeah

[next onyx]

There's one line for Mackay that made me go what the fuck.

"I'm shitting blood"

[arctic grove]

apparently montez voice actor is the same va for mackay

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[slender isle]

HAHAHAHAH

[arctic grove]

......

[next onyx]

You can hear it.

[arctic grove]

[slender isle]

I kinda love that I'm sorry

[next onyx]

Yeah trust me I'm just as surprised as you are that that's a line.

It's hilarious but at the same time so messed up.

[arctic grove]

the way someone on ur team out of squad will randomly say let me catch my breath usually makes me laugh my ass off when i hear it in game

on US team specifically

[next onyx]

He only says it when he is injured.

My favourite line from bf5 was "Is that a grenade?"

Nah I wonder.

[slender isle]

Here's what we agree on:

1. in round quips and stuff are good, serious, and funny
2. end of round quips suck
3. start of round quips fit the characters most of the time (MacKay is Canadian let the man climb Everest and joke about it)

I think my fav interaction is mackay yelling at the person he's reviving to "use cover next time"

[hearty flame]

nah fuck end of round stuff, send me into the next match

[arctic grove]

i miss best squad

way better for showing you and your squads drip

instead of best players of said category

[slender isle]

It's still there isn't it?

You see your squad in the end screen

[arctic grove]

yea after the eor screen it shows you your squad, but i mean to the entire game

[slender isle]

ohhhhhh

I kinda prefer the new system, seeing most revives is cool

especially when i go like 50+ in a breakthrough game lmao

[slender isle]

So we agree EOR stuff sucks lmao

good ahaha

[hearty flame]

ya they should just cut all that out and just rematch

[slender isle]

Easiest fix would just be a return to menu button lmao

[hearty flame]

eh in 2042s case it wouldnt be an issue due to no persistent lobbies but in other bfs it could be if youre in a good one

[slender isle]

That's true, well the next bf game might have that idk. Quick fix now would be a return to menu button

[hearty flame]

i mean thats literally what happens now because dice couldnt just have the game rematch faster or show that they were being rematched

instead people were backing out to menu since they didnt know

so they just made that the default

[arctic grove]

next battlefield just has to be similar in a lot of ways to the past ones without doing anything special

[next onyx]

Don't understand why there isn't a server browser for all out warfare and or player persistent lobbies.

[arctic grove]

ikr damn

[next onyx]

Would help on the loading times.

[arctic grove]

it makes playing during late hours more of a hassle than anything else

[next onyx]

It's literally an inconvenience for the sake of being one.

[slender isle]

I think it's due to the AOW servers being spun up and shut down after every match

[hearty flame]

when someone does a what happened style investigation of 2042 theres a lot i wanna know about

[slender isle]

I think the only real inconvenience is that there are like 7 different playlists to load into so you have 0 idea what's populated at all lmao

I stand by how the weekly rotations should've just been put into the portal browser rather than take over the main gamemodes

[arctic grove]

hopefully we can get that alongside a goot BF game in 2-3 yrs

provide us some actual transparency and clarity to better direct EA/DICE on how to make a bf gaem

yes im spelling like that on purpose

[hearty flame]

im betting next bf in 2023
it might be good with vince at the helm, depending on how the technical level at dice is now

but who knows

[slender isle]

The most likely thing to come out within the next 2 years or so would be portal stand alone

[arctic grove]

i mean if you think tom henderson is anything reliable dice is already working on a new title according to him, although iirc we only know its a singleplayer experience of some sort

[slender isle]

Probably early 2024. The main bf7 is still in pre development

[hearty flame]

im betting next bf is a reskin a la bf3 and 4 to cut down on dev time and costs
keeps tech the same so the dice newbies arent overwhelemed

[slender isle]

It'll just be what we have with portal now, made into a stand alone game (meaning dice LA can focus on just that shit)

I wouldn't mind it tbh

Plus, there's a rumour they're working on a game so it could be that or another stand alone thing

[hearty flame]

nah let ripple do their own thing. theyve probably had enough of dice and bf at this point
or let them head up the next bf because dice is dice

[slender isle]

"their own experience" was the words I think I read

[arctic grove]

i saw a good video about portal some months ago

it put into perspective what potential it had but it definitely wouldve needed to be serviced as a solo product

[slender isle]

Yeah, so putting portal out as a solo, forge type game would be amazing and really revitalize the franchise

[limpid pond]

Welp I just dropped 80 kills with the pbx so I guess I'll use this gun instead of the mp9

Back to the ol pbx I got just like launch

[slender isle]

Pbx is crazy lmao

[limpid pond]

Yeah it's okay. It's definitely way better now than it was at launch

I mailed the pbx at launch for Like a month straight then I started mastering guns for the T1 badge and loved the mp9

Then they just nerfed the mp9 into the ground so I guess I'll go back to the PBx just went 79 and 20 with it

[slender isle]

The pp29 aint too bad now either

[limpid pond]

Depends. This game? No. The next one? Most likely

I just wonder what they'll go with

Need to hunker down and support a singular game for 4 years

[limpid pond]

Idk what it is man but I hate the pp29. As a smg lover it sounds weird but the pp29 just feels weird

Also I can't be the only one but who uses the medpen over the med crate

[slender isle]

Gotta throw the vertical recoil compensator on

[limpid pond]

The med crate is just to slow imo

[slender isle]

I use neither, I play falk

[limpid pond]

Nah the recoil is fine. I just feel like it's too jumpy and inconsistent

[limpid pond]

But are you a good medic or the tryhard falcks that run around with the sfar that I shit on?

[slender isle]

That's what I mean, the vertical recoil compensators stops the jumpiness

[limpid pond]

I use to main falck at launch. I think my highest revive count ever was like 102 on breakaway

[slender isle]

20-40 revives a conquest game so I'm not sure

[limpid pond]

Ahhh conquest

I play Breakthrough

[slender isle]

I got 93 on a kaleidescope breakthrough once

[limpid pond]

That's how I got so many

[slender isle]

best match of my life

[limpid pond]

Yeah the xp was the best too

[slender isle]

100%

[limpid pond]

Remember that first building on kaleidoscope?

If you were attach how everyone on your team would just be at that wall

Attacking*

Literally free xp just shoot the pistol away

[slender isle]

Is this the A building on conquest? cause that was messy with 128p

[limpid pond]

Nah the a building on breakthrough launch

I might be a on conquest

But yeah it was literally free revives and xp

[slender isle]

I think so, that one building away from everything else

[limpid pond]

Yep

The skyscraper

[slender isle]

128p breakthrough was great

[limpid pond]

The one lone skyscraper

[slender isle]

I got my 93 revives on a 64p server which was what made it crazy lmao

[limpid pond]

Oh while. The most I've hit on a 64p server for breakthrough is 53

[slender isle]

That's not bad

[limpid pond]

Nothing higher than that

But now t9tal heals with the pistol was nuts

I maimed a medic back in bf4 and bf5

[slender isle]

If the class rework hits well enough then hell yeah, could be the pacific update from bfV for this game lmao

[limpid pond]

Mained*

[limpid pond]

That's what brought bf5 from the depths of death back to life

[slender isle]

I main recon in most of the games, but falk is just easy to use, especially the revive mechanic being really easy to use

[limpid pond]

Yeah I main recon too. My pain is like level 400

Paik

[slender isle]

Jesus ahaha

[limpid pond]

Whoops my bad 304

Definitely not 400

[slender isle]

I've T1'd mackay, falk, rao, and I'm almost done with angel (I switch specialists since I'm on that t1 grind)

[limpid pond]

I miss her old ability before the nerf. Kinda feel the nerf was unnesacary cause not many peoppe used her

It's always been Sundance and mackay

[slender isle]

The infinite distance wall hacks lmao

[limpid pond]

Yeah it had a range cap believe it or not. But the infinite wall hack was good because of the 128 mode

Helped spot campers

Now it's like my hack doesn't even spot people right next to me

Not to mention you showed up on the minimap

[slender isle]

100%. BF2042s base game plays really well (like shooting and the reworked maps, vehicles, and the movement is simple yet fun) and with the class rework it'll bring it inline with other BF games

[slender isle]

you have to be looking for it

got like a 0.05 spot time

[limpid pond]

I agree. The class rework could revive it for sure

And I know that's why I'm saying it's dumb

[slender isle]

Yeah lmao

[limpid pond]

Wish it was at least a bit longer

I see maybe 3 paiks a game

[slender isle]

I don't think there's much to complain about with the game after that rework

[limpid pond]

Nah I don't think no matter what they do the game will ever be as bad as no hit reg days during launch

I remember walking up behind someone and dumping a whole lcmg mag into them for them to turn around and kill me

[slender isle]

I still don't think launch (after the day one patch) was ever as bad as bf4 at launch

[limpid pond]

Bruh one second

[slender isle]

BF4 like just before final stand was great

[limpid pond]

Did you see the video I sent?

[slender isle]

Yeah lmao. It was the same as that, but with 9x the disconnecting, crashes, and also falling through the map more often than running around

At least that was my experience at launch

[limpid pond]

Ah yes I found the lcmg clip

One second

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Au5FxnMvHpBkiHyBDaUzcDyOf0zI

Watch it

It was so bad

I fell through the map a shitton on bf2042 launch especially with the tanks

[slender isle]

ngl, I never once had a problem with the launch lmao. My game is literally blessed. Haven't had a single technical fault

Only real glitch I've had was the revive one (where if a toe was in the ground no revive)

Rip the flying hovercrafts

[limpid pond]

Don't even get me started on the revives glitch but did you see the video

[slender isle]

I did yeah, thats fucked lmao

[limpid pond]

And yes hovercraft going up the side of the building on hoursglass

Remember when objectives were on roofs

Lmaooooo

[slender isle]

Only way up was the damn hovercrafts lmao

[limpid pond]

Exactly and normally c5 drones would get you first

[slender isle]

It was a fun time tbh, for me at least

[limpid pond]

Yo watch this lmao I found this random clip from launch

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Au5FxnMvHpBkiH1nvgvh-fcdzwWg

Damn I found a video of launch where the scar was trash and m5a3 was meta

[slender isle]

You murdered that man

[limpid pond]

Lmao the most coincidencetal thing ever

[slender isle]

I've done that a couple times, it's very funny

[limpid pond]

I have a video where a hokum choper that blew up fell on a teammate and launched his body across the ground on breakaway. Dudes body slid like 4 miles

[slender isle]

Jesus

[limpid pond]

Yeah I clipped it. Alot of funny stuff went down during the beta I tell you

[mental finch]

Man that PC hot fix cannot come soon enough, these crashes are getting ridiculously commonplace

[slender isle]

Have you tried verifying files and then also updating windows?

[hexed mango]

average 2042 issues

whats the probability that way says hi now that im here

low, i guess

[next onyx]

hi

[hexed mango]

nvm

[next onyx]

[hexed mango]

hi way

[next onyx]

Hey Echo how you going.

[hexed mango]

not well, as per usual

[ivory canopy]

39.24 with Ghostmaker

[next onyx]

Oh I just realised they both use the same hand.

[ivory canopy]

Should I stop now?

[next onyx]

That's up to you.

[hexed mango]

yeah lol thats the point

[next onyx]

Give another weapon a go for a breather.

[ivory canopy]

That's 6 to the T1 badge

[next onyx]

IN MY DEFENCE THEY'RE JUST HANDS.

[ivory canopy]

Lol

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/8gVK.gif

[next onyx]

But in seriousness.

I hope you get better.

[hexed mango]

i hope so too

[ivory canopy]

I did it

[lyric snow]

hammed burger 😦

[quiet shell]

You think near the end of 2042's support they'll add a server browser just too keep the game alive afterwards?

[eager spire]

For AOW, they already confirmed it's not happening.

[quiet shell]

They also said they were committed to specialists. Now the class system is coming back

[eager spire]

not really

it's specialists categorized into classes, it's not the same.

It's basically DICE being like "HERE HAVE YOUR DAMN CLASSES SHUT UP ABOUT IT"

[quiet shell]

okay but it's still DICE backpedaling

if the outcry about server browsers persists long enough there's a good chance they'll cave

[eager spire]

Yeah but i have no faith in DICE doing something like adding a server browser to AOW. I think when they wanna kill this game, they're gonna kill it.

[quiet shell]

I mean, this game has been dead for a while

it is solely living off hardcore battlefield fans who are literally burnt out on the other battlefield games

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson basin]

Are any of the vault guns viable?

[eager spire]

M16, GOL, and MP412 seem to be viable. Everything else, eh.

[quiet shell]

the AKS74U and ACW-R get the job done but are only nifty

[eager spire]

Considering apparently DICE's official viewpoint on the topic is that the vault guns are novelties, I don't expect 'em to be very good.

[crimson basin]

Okay I was close to unlocking m16, gol might take some time.

[eager spire]

especially since there seems to be something fucking wrong with the conversion process for these guns

because i swear to god they always release with some massive weird issue

[quiet shell]

DICE needs whatever player retention they can get. If the vault weapons need some kind of progression, they'll add it

[eager spire]

and it takes months for them to fix it

[crimson basin]

It could have something to do with ripple effect trying to replicate their original behavior

[eager spire]

i mean they need it, but they certainly didn't add it

It took months for the first vault weapons to came out and they had basically no progression.

[quiet shell]

Doesn't make sense either that their artists went through the trouble of modelling vault weapons with the 2042 magnetic rails and then not use them

[eager spire]

they don't even have T1 skins or 2042 attachments.

[quiet shell]

I had hoped for new animations too instead of ported animations

but I guess they couldn't do that either

They have time too add in secret reloads but I guess revamped reloads are "brutal expectations"

[chilly jacinth]

dont think the secret reloads are new either

[quiet shell]

It also probably isn't a good sign that between DICE needing feedback loops and the new people in charge asking the community questions, the community is basically needing to tell DICE how to make a battlefield game

[eager spire]

I mean it wouldn't be hard

to make a decent BF game

at least in terms of knowing what you need to be doing.

Like i'm aware game development is hard, but at the same time, people generally know what they want in terms of a BF game.

[quiet shell]

Not hard at all

literally skim through Battlefield forums and you can figure out what people like and don't like from past battlefield games and work from that

[eager spire]

or hell

just ask the people that have been playing the games for years.

Just ask 'em for genuine opinions.

[arctic grove]

They havent even like made something that people can report bugs on

[lilac dust]

Is that crawford i'm seeing with the all white ninja suit?

Looks pretty fly

[arctic grove]

Dont buy it. Dont give EA your money.

[lilac dust]

I ain't ever buying skins in this game. DW lol

[arctic grove]

Portal is like the only good thing about battlefield 2042 atm

The stuff people make on their is pretty fun

[eager spire]

...XP farms and hardcore 1000% damage servers are fun?

[slender isle]

You can't even get the skin anymore, it's time limited

[slender isle]

EA forums my dude, or reddit, or in game

[eager spire]

i mean you can talk on reddit

doesn't mean they'll listen

[slender isle]

On the low sodium reddit they do, most of the time anyways

[eager spire]

plus if you're an above average player you'll just get hysterical abuse from emotionally damaged people.

[eager spire]

The Low Sodium subreddit doesn't really seem like the kind of place you post criticism to, though.

In fact that place seems like the kinda place the average 2042 fan goes to get away from the criticism

[slender isle]

You can still criticize the game lmao. It's not like the main sub where it "game bad, dice should be killed, you suck cause you like game, fuck you" criticism

It's more like "this bug is really game breaking, would love to see it fixed"

or "would love to see this added/here's a cool idea for the game"

[eager spire]

the engine level input issues are really game breaking.

though personally i don't think DICE can fix that. Not in this game.

[slender isle]

"Here's something that I think will fix insert problem here"

[slender isle]

I mean they probably could, just may take some time idk lmao. The input is fine now, not like it made any difference to our young brains playing bf3 or BC2 where we probably all played on a console with immense amount of latency

[eager spire]

i mean it makes a difference to literally anyone that played a previous BF game on PC

even if they don't notice it

[crimson basin]

playing bc2 with 25 fps, those were the days

[slender isle]

How does it make a difference if they don't notice

I'm not on enders level of "my left ball is twitching I can tell this is 0.23 of a millisecond off with latency"

[eager spire]

Your input not working properly causes your aim to fuck up even if you don't notice it.

[slender isle]

Not me 😤 😤 I'm simply just cracked

[eager spire]

You not noticing doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect

it just means you don't notice what's causing the problem.

[slender isle]

There aint a problem, I simply don't miss my shots

[eager spire]

But considering it's an engine level issue, likely caused by crossplay, i don't think they're fixing it in this game.

I don't think they're gonna push an update to change some fundamental aspect of how the engine reads input to make it work properly, you know

[slender isle]

Never say never lmao. It might happen and if it doesn't then oh well

[eager spire]

I don't believe so.

[slender isle]

Like I said, you never kniw

[eager spire]

I do know that changing fundamental aspects like that this far into the game's lifecycle isn't the best idea, especially not when you're trying to make other things and do other updates to the game.

[lilac dust]

I had the most vivid dream last night of seeing Battlefield's official twitter putting a tweet out that said "Coming soon - 4OLDMAPS Portal" .... I read the comments and they were all saying the 4 must mean Battlefield 4 maps coming to portal then I went to this chat to get hyped about it with you guys then before I could type anything here I woke up

[slender isle]

They did it with bfV multiple times lmao

[eager spire]

No they didn't, they changed the TTK multiple times.

That's not an engine level thing.

[slender isle]

TTK changes, sound changes, pretty sure there was a movement update down there

Didn't they just alter the latency with 2.1?

can they not just do that again lmao

[eager spire]

They did adjust it yes, but even Florian said that's not enough.

I don't think it's as simple as that.

[slender isle]

That's fine. If they did it once they can do it again

[eager spire]

Because if it was as simple as that, why did it take them nearly a year to do that?

[slender isle]

Other focuses

I think enders was the person to complain about it and that caught steam and then they did it

I never noticed it until it was pointed out on reddit and I still don't notice it

[eager spire]

I would think that would be priority one cause it is a fundamental input issue, and being able to aim in your FPS game is kind of important

like, personally

[slender isle]

But if you aren't a competitive 300hz ultra high fps gamer you wouldn't notice

like I don't notice it at all

[eager spire]

like i said. You don't have to notice for it to be a problem and effect you.

[slender isle]

But like I said, id I don't notice it, it aint a problem. I'm still dropping 25-40 kills a match, I'm still sniping accurately

Not affecting my gameplay

[eager spire]

could probably be better in a game with working mouse input tho

[slender isle]

If I could get better than I already am I'd love it, However I also do not mind cause I'll keep being a medic man

[lilac dust]

Yo mods can ya'll make a #Dreams-About-Battlefield channel pls. I'll probably be the only one talking in while everybody looks at me like I'm crazy but still I need somewhere to put down all my great ideas I come up with thanks to my dreams 🤓

[lilac dust]

Man season 3 really gotta bring a banger map. As much as I like stranded, when there's so few maps in this game compared to previous titles it becomes extra painful knowing that Stranded is reused Discarded assets and Orbital terrain

[arctic grove]

They dont listen to either of those

Shut up EA sympathiser

Go spend 20 bucks on a skin pack for a game that doesnt even function right

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[slender isle]

Just did :))

[arctic grove]

Literal indie developers working from their garage can make a better game than bf2042

I bought the game second hand for 18 bucks and i still feel ripped off

[slender isle]

Wait I gave you options for you to report bugs and you’re mad at me? You have such a small temper

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[eager spire]

like i said

you can talk

[arctic grove]

Just cos I report them dont mean theyll listen ea and dice have a history for this

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[eager spire]

but it doesn't mean they'll listen

[arctic grove]

Theyve been ignoring the fans of the franchise for years bro just play modern warfare 2

[slender isle]

HAHAHAHA AS IF THATS BETTER

[arctic grove]

At least they get a campaign with the 100 dollar game

It is 1 billion percent better

[eager spire]

...MW22 is a trash game being made by a trashcan company.

[slender isle]

Oh I got it for free lmao I don’t use it

[lilac dust]

Tbf on console 2042 currently runs better than MW2

[arctic grove]

Mw2 been out for like a day tho

[slender isle]

It came with like 2 months of Xbox gamepass for free as well

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[eager spire]

ok but it's been in development for 3 years

[arctic grove]

And its arguably better than a game that came out months ago

[eager spire]

and costs $70

[lilac dust]

True games shouldn't work when they launch

[arctic grove]

Bf2042 has been in development for eons i done grown a beard whilst i was waiting for this

[eager spire]

MW22 is basically MW19 but IW put in dedication to fucking up every aspect of it

[slender isle]

If you’re gonna ride activisions dick I feel you should go to the other games section lmao

[arctic grove]

No i hate acttivision aswel

Theyre doodoo too

[slender isle]

Also 2042 was in development for 18 months, and from announcement to release it was like 7 months

[eager spire]

You don't have to pick a side here. They're both trash.

[arctic grove]

Yes

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[eager spire]

There's the people who understand the problems and that they are problems, and the people that are wrong.

[slender isle]

Activision is arguably a worse company to work at compared to EA. You know, with all the sexual harassment

[arctic grove]

Either way i wasted like 100 bucks on games that i played for 12 hours and never picked ip again

[solar obsidian]

so like every cod ever?
beside cod ghost which everyone hated

[arctic grove]

True. Theyre both scum in my opinion

Just u know at least ea follows basic human rights

[arctic grove]

How mw22 bad

[slender isle]

Dude, if you’re not sure about a game just go with the 10$ trial from ea access, or view videos on it prior to getting it

[arctic grove]

Not enough irosights

[slender isle]

They may be greedy but at least they aren’t shit humans

[limpid pond]

Kinda annoyed

[lilac dust]

All I'm gonna say is if you preorder a game and it turns out shit, that's your fault for preodering.

[limpid pond]

I just dropped 129 kills but the lobby had some bots in it too

[arctic grove]

I barely find myself using them in mw2.. the visual recoil is just

[slender isle]

I preordered and am completely okay with my purchase of 2042

[eager spire]

Bad UI, visual recoil that's obnoxious, weapon and attachment balance that sucks ass, weapon tuning is useless, no prestige, maps are ass, movement is ass

[arctic grove]

^

[slender isle]

300 hours in and got more than my moneys worth

[limpid pond]

Granted it was mostly player but I for sure killed 20 bots out of my 129

[arctic grove]

Guys i think its time yo stop playing these goofy ass games go back to rust

Theyre so much better

[slender isle]

109 kills ain’t bad

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[eager spire]

Goofy ass games
Rust

[arctic grove]

The rust devs are so much better

[eager spire]

Rust

[slender isle]

Did you just say rust?

[arctic grove]

Not completely unplayable

[eager spire]

rust is a fucking meme game

[arctic grove]

Just it’s a bit crazy

[limpid pond]

Eh still I beat my previous record by only 4

[lilac dust]

I didn't preorder but I enjoy the game 🤟

[slender isle]

Still good

[limpid pond]

But 105 was an all player lobby so this one I feel doesn't count

[arctic grove]

Yes i said it rust is a great game made by a great company with a not so great slightly racist fanbase.

[limpid pond]

It was also with the pbx so maybe if I used a sfar I could have got 150

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[arctic grove]

mmm movement is pretty alright

[eager spire]

Rust is a game that's only played by the people that have played it for ages, or the people that can assemble like 25 man groups to curbstomp everyone.

[solar obsidian]

movement is fucking sexy ❤️

[arctic grove]

I only have like 600 hours on it and i love it

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[solar obsidian]

you can hang on the edge of stuff and shoot with pistol

[eager spire]

nah, aggressive movement is entirely nerfed and there's nothing there to replace it.

[arctic grove]

But yeah its not good at bringing new people cos all the chads just stop on rheir head

I can still run around like a crackhead abusing Tac sprint glitch with my spr

[solar obsidian]

animations are top notch

[slender isle]

Dude, rust is like the worst game I could think of playing. Fuck that game, fuck ARK too

[arctic grove]

you can.. somewhat

[eager spire]

You ADS slower if you jump peak

[arctic grove]

I’m aware

But it doesn’t stop me from clicking corpses with my spr

speaking of that I got the 2nd progression of the spr gold 👀

[arctic grove]

Fuck ark shit looks like a mobile game. U should give rust a try with some friends, its alot of fun

[slender isle]

I’m not really a fan of its gameplay loop

Not my kinda game

DayZ is closer to what I’m into when it comes to survival games. That and tarkov lmao (it counts)

[arctic grove]

Yeah also like the whole risk of losing hours of work isn’t really something thats too like nice for people who dont have a gambling addiction like me

Like if ur not a gambling addict dont play rust

[slender isle]

You should play tarkov lmao

[eager spire]

Like they put all this work into Gunsmith and Weapon Tuning only to make most attachments dogshit, with no stock being the meta again for ADS/Sprint to Fire speed

[arctic grove]

I have and it makes me wanna cry

[slender isle]

Closest I’ve got to gambling

[arctic grove]

Its too slow

[eager spire]

Weapon Tuning is useless, it does basically nothing.

[slender isle]

Correct. But it’s also great

Like, it’s so atmospheric, perfect gun designs and attention to detail. Gameplay loop is so addictive

[eager spire]

Tarkov is an interesting game aesthetically and mechanically but some of the MMO aspects of it piss me off.

[arctic grove]

It’s not that slow

You just play it slow

[limpid pond]

If you wanna play a game that's fun play squad and add the starwars mod

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[eager spire]

nah

[arctic grove]

Attention to detail and game mechanics are top tear. But like u get shot once and have to spend like 10 minutes bandaging in a bush

I dont got the patience

[eager spire]

eh

[arctic grove]

then just simply become chad like me and farm labs for rupee

[eager spire]

mechanics are survival game bullshit amped up by MMO design run by a man who deliberately hates fun

[slender isle]

You get shot once and pop a bandage and pain killer

[arctic grove]

Also i am a dumbass like ill have 10 billion rupees worth of shit on me and ill just throw myself at gunshots

[slender isle]

Then you sprint to the exit

[arctic grove]

I dont wanna bandage i wanna shoot people

[arctic grove]

Now that seems pretty boring

[slender isle]

I’m the idiot who has that amount of stuff in my stash but still takes in the cheapest shit I can find

[eager spire]

"You're not meant to play this game solo, you're supposed to play in 5 man squads. That's how we designed this game, we're not gonna change anything for solo players."

That's literally how Nikita talks about Tarkov.

[arctic grove]

Games more fun solo

Nah u gotta live a little homie take out ur most expensive gear set for no reason

[eager spire]

hey word of god

[arctic grove]

and bring 11 guns

Just in case

[eager spire]

you're supposed to run 5 mans

that's what he said

[slender isle]

I run solo

[arctic grove]

Playing in 5 mans is so boring. too little players on the maps to try killing plus the constant “is that you? IS THAT YOU”

^^^

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[slender isle]

I just take an Adar and trooper armour with a penis helmet

[eager spire]

Tarkov is just an annoying game for me to play. Having to run a map on my second monitor to know where the fuck I am is not exactly engaging.

[slender isle]

I’m unstoppable

[arctic grove]

I’ve played tarkib so much I know how to get out of most maps now 😫😫

[eager spire]

ok

[arctic grove]

<3

[eager spire]

I don't have that time spent

[arctic grove]

Idk about u guys but tarkov makes me wanna kill people

[eager spire]

and i have very little patience

[arctic grove]

Adar bad gun

[solar obsidian]

hunt showdown > tarkov

[arctic grove]

I LOVE HUNT

[slender isle]

Take that back

[arctic grove]

I’m not gonna

[eager spire]

Hunt Showdown is interesting, but i've not played it much.

[arctic grove]

Actually no 5.56 is bad in general

[slender isle]

You better

[arctic grove]

Only good if you have 55a1 or 995

[slender isle]

56a1 is the exact same but cheaper and faster lmao

[arctic grove]

eh

55a1 has more pen

Doesn’t matter if it’s faster really since pen is all that matters in the game

[solar obsidian]

third person cod is the socom game i never had ❤️

[slender isle]

Adar is headshot machine so pen doesn’t matter unless it’s killa helmet or Altyn

[arctic grove]

Plus Adar is semi only

[upbeat sand]

how many points would hourglass and breakaway have if all the points where seperate as a single

[slender isle]

0 recoil

Fast fingers

[arctic grove]

Meh

[slender isle]

What do you mean?

[arctic grove]

I’d prefer to rock an m4 with 60’s

[slender isle]

Too expensive

I’d rather run a cheap AK

[upbeat sand]

how many objectives would breakaway have if ther where not bundled into groups

[eager spire]

Your fast fingers when i light you up with 800RPM:

[limpid pond]

Wdym

[slender isle]

I think 8?

[arctic grove]

and with ammo that goes right through trooper armor:

[limpid pond]

Bundled into groups

[slender isle]

How many flags are there if no sectors

[limpid pond]

So basically conquest? It's either 8 or 10

[arctic grove]

I farm labs for rupee. we are not the same.

[limpid pond]

Let me check real quick

[slender isle]

I used to, I just ran through the sewers, got 2x the cost of my key? Then left

[eager spire]

You also admitted to switching to empty servers to do that, so it doesn't really mean much

[limpid pond]

There's 10 flags for breakaway

If you do conquest

[arctic grove]

yes because farming raiders and labs is fun without people bothering u

[limpid pond]

You know what else is fun?

[arctic grove]

touching grass?

[limpid pond]

Nope

[arctic grove]

o

What is 👀

[limpid pond]

Playing starwars squad mod

[arctic grove]

LOL

[eager spire]

Having fun
You're not allowed to have fun in Tarkov

[limpid pond]

Lego starwars skywalkee saga

[eager spire]

The game is explicitly designed to not be fun.

[arctic grove]

I mean

[limpid pond]

The game is actually fun asf

I already beat it 100%

[arctic grove]

PVPing In tarkib is pretty fun

[limpid pond]

Back when it came out

[eager spire]

Tarkov PVP is the least appealing bullshit i've ever interacted with.

[limpid pond]

Tarkov is fun if you strip naked and run around with a mp7 and sneak up on people

[arctic grove]

mmm? how so

[eager spire]

I love engaging with PVP in a game where i can simply just be fucked cause the other person has way more money than me and has better ammo in his gun than i can get.

[limpid pond]

S

K

I

L

L

[eager spire]

Shut the fuck up

[limpid pond]

I

S

S

U

E

[arctic grove]

That’s a good way to get yourself warned or muted LOL

[eager spire]

Fucking irritating prick.

[limpid pond]

Yeah I'm not doing that shit again

[arctic grove]

I mean

[limpid pond]

Calm down you clown

It's the internet

[eager spire]

You just wasted your time doing that but i'm the clown

ok

sure

[arctic grove]

As long as you can atleast hit their head I’d say you could be fine

[limpid pond]

It's 5 am tf else am I supposed to do

Are you dumb

[eager spire]

Go to sleep

[limpid pond]

No

[arctic grove]

uh you sleep

[limpid pond]

Nah

[arctic grove]

why not

[limpid pond]

Not tired tonight

Plus I don't go to work until 2

[arctic grove]

uguhhghhhuhbhg

[eager spire]

If i get lucky i'd be fine. But most of the time, i'm dead before i get the chance.

[limpid pond]

I'll sleep the next night

[arctic grove]

idk man tarkov pvp is always a fun time for me

[eager spire]

It's also important to note that i often run the game at like sub 60 FPS

which makes aiming a bit of a fucking pain

[limpid pond]

Then don't play it

[eager spire]

I don't.

[limpid pond]

That's like tryna wash dishes without water

[arctic grove]

I mean sure sometimes it’s just a quick head eyes for me LOL but it’s fun

[tame cobalt]

Tarkov? 🤢

[eager spire]

But that's just my experience with it.

[arctic grove]

Yes. because tarkov is fun.

[eager spire]

I like Tarkov aesthetically.

[tame cobalt]

[limpid pond]

Ya know what else is fun

[eager spire]

But as a game, it can fuck off.

[limpid pond]

Starwars squad mod

[foggy halo]

Holy shit

[eager spire]

stop simping dread

[arctic grove]

Dread

[tame cobalt]

wut

[limpid pond]

What

[arctic grove]

Ya know what else is fun

[limpid pond]

What👀👀👀

[foggy halo]

That emoji

[arctic grove]

You going to sleep you fuck

[limpid pond]

Starwars squad mod?

Ahh I see

[tame cobalt]

[eager spire]

stop simping

[foggy halo]

Not allowed

[limpid pond]

I can't. It's literally fun asf

[eager spire]

stop it

[arctic grove]

Sir

[eager spire]

get some help

[limpid pond]

Nope

[arctic grove]

Please sleep

[limpid pond]

Starwars squad mod

Best game ever

[arctic grove]

if you keep mentioning it

[limpid pond]

Beats minecraft

[arctic grove]

You’re gonna go insane

[limpid pond]

Minecraft bad

Starwars is all you need

[arctic grove]

he’s going crazy

[limpid pond]

Ahhhhh

[eager spire]

anyway

[limpid pond]

St St star wars

[eager spire]

@arctic grove how've you been

[limpid pond]

Nah I'm done

But fr tho yall should try it

[arctic grove]

I’m alright! just feeling a bit sad that I passed out on someone important earlier though

[limpid pond]

L alert

Was it a chick?

[eager spire]

Oof, that sucks man.

[arctic grove]

it’s a person that has helped me through some stuff before.. that’s it

[limpid pond]

Gotcha

L

Did you tell whoever it was that you passed out is all?

Also you guys wanna know the best game ever made

[arctic grove]

wut

[arctic grove]

Sure

[limpid pond]

The only game there is. Titanfall 2

The best game in existence

[arctic grove]

Surprising

I thought you were gonna say squad Star Wars mod

[limpid pond]

Nah

I like starwars but I fucking love titanfall 2

Literally my #1 favorite game

I've just always had to much fun in that game

[upbeat sand]

god game

[limpid pond]

Too tier

Top

[upbeat sand]

the only downside is
tone
smart pistol
and smg only meta

[limpid pond]

Wydm flatline op

Also smart pistol isn't use much

[eager spire]

I wish I could say something about Titanfall 2 MP, but I don't own it, and when I had EA Play, I only played the campaign cause MP was dead at the time

[limpid pond]

Map hack was possibly the most spammed

[eager spire]

cause it was pre-Steam release.

[limpid pond]

Titanfall 2 recently has been getting ddosed heavily again

[eager spire]

😔

[limpid pond]

The titanfall 2 anniversary was yesterday

[upbeat sand]

i remember trying to spawn then

SONAR DETECTED then i die

[solar obsidian]

what

[limpid pond]

Yes by a stim pilot devil jumping over you with a nade cooked

[limpid pond]

Titanfall 2 came out yesterday the 28th in 2016

Whoops forgot today was the 30th

[solar obsidian]

xD

[limpid pond]

The 28th was the anniversary

[eager spire]

How are the dedicated server clients for Titanfall 2?

[limpid pond]

Depends

[solar obsidian]

better than overwatch 1

[limpid pond]

Northstar is the only real viable one

[eager spire]

yeah was mostly thinking of Northstar, just couldn't remember the name

[limpid pond]

The games good just came out at and unfortunate time

[solar obsidian]

game is amazing

[eager spire]

yeah i have no doubt that it's good, i played the campaign.

I'll probably buy it on Steam when i'm able to.

[limpid pond]

Yeah go for it

[arctic grove]

everyone

[limpid pond]

Only reason titanfall 2 disnt do so well was because the ddoses it it came out when cod ww2 came out and bf1 came out

It got squished

[arctic grove]

Tomorrow is Halloween 👀👀

[solar obsidian]

have you played third person mw2?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[limpid pond]

You're right

[solar obsidian]

good

[eager spire]

BF1 is an interesting game and that's all i'll say about it

[limpid pond]

I can't play mw2 at all

[arctic grove]

agreed

Y not

[limpid pond]

Games to slow imo

[solar obsidian]

how

[arctic grove]

Game is too fast imo

[foggy halo]

[arctic grove]

Running around abusing Tac sprint glitches and jumping makes it pretty fast

Yes I abuse the Tac sprint glitch

[eager spire]

Tac sprint glitch?

[limpid pond]

I feel like it's to clunky and I'm a ffa player. Was top 100 on the leader board for cw and vg ffa but this one people literally preaim walk 24/7

Yeah if you melee or dolphin dive it refreshes tac sprint

[eager spire]

🤔

[limpid pond]

I think they should have just added cw movement

[eager spire]

I think they should've just made slide cancelling a mechanic.

[arctic grove]

What is cw movement lmao?

It’s just no tac sprint and sliding

[limpid pond]

Tac sprinting is clunky sliding is useless and dolphin diving offers no advantage unless your getting shot at and jump behind cover

[eager spire]

slide cancelling gave sliding a purpose.

[limpid pond]

Exactly not tac sprint. Sliding is whatever and no bunny hopping

They literally removed bhoping from mw2 for no reason

[eager spire]

oh no there was a reason

[limpid pond]

Just take out sliding and make it either cw movement or mw3 movement

[eager spire]

people hate any kind of fast aggressive movement.

[limpid pond]

Would make the game flow better

[arctic grove]

To cater to the dogshit players of course

Make it og mw2 movement

[limpid pond]

Nah I love aggressive movement

[arctic grove]

Yeh you just melee after running out of Tac sprint and it insta refreshes it

[eager spire]

not everyone agrees, look at any discussion of MW22 and you'll see a lot pf people saying that this was a good thing.

[limpid pond]

I would slide cancel every 4 seconds dns jump shot drop shot bunny hop as much as possible

[eager spire]

that seems like an oversight

[arctic grove]

Drop shotting is still extremely viable in mw22

[eager spire]

But on the other hand, fuck 'em

[limpid pond]

I know. I already played the game. I just don't like it

[eager spire]

might as well abuse any oversights in this $70 game

[arctic grove]

exactly

[eager spire]

if they're not gonna make good movement might as well break what is there

[limpid pond]

Feels clunky to me tho. I dropped 60 kills on it 2 days ago

Only fast modes imo are dom and hardpoint

[eager spire]

also that visual recoil is ass

[limpid pond]

Ffa like I said is stupidly slow

[eager spire]

and weapon tuning is useless from what i've been told.

[limpid pond]

Also uavs need to be a 6ks because bots are camping and getting a 4ks with no issue

[eager spire]

Or

[limpid pond]

It's the reason the 40 yr old dads love this game

[eager spire]

Remove killstreaks and replace them with Specialist from MW19

[arctic grove]

The extra perks?

[limpid pond]

Well specialist was an option in mw19. You either could use it or use kill streaks

[eager spire]

yes

[arctic grove]

Hell nah

The amount of catering to campers mw22 has is really annoying tbh

[eager spire]

why not

[arctic grove]

It’s pretty much useless honestly

[limpid pond]

That's why I'm not touching is lol

[limpid pond]

Whatttttt

[arctic grove]

I mean I’ll still play it but still

[limpid pond]

Bro I only ran specialist in 2019

[arctic grove]

The camping is insane compared to any other cod game

[limpid pond]

I was a God at that game

[arctic grove]

I’ve never used it and I don’t plan to

[eager spire]

Specialist is the based killstreak package

[white geyser]

Damn it… I had to delete one of my custom portal matchup and decide to make a new one. I just made 2042 vs zombies and limited vehicles by removing attack choppers and jet plane.

[limpid pond]

I literally could dog on anyone in mw 19

Specialist was so good

I ran eod battle hardene and quick fix

[arctic grove]

Specialist was pretty fun to use in 2019

[limpid pond]

My main perks were double time tune up and ghost

[arctic grove]

although I only really used streaks on shipment because well. shipment

I only ran ghost double time and battle hardened

[limpid pond]

Tune up for faster deadsilence charge up

Tune up was needed if you wanted to move around the maps

Deadsilence after two kills with tune up

[arctic grove]

Never used it

[limpid pond]

Alot didn't

It was pretty good

[arctic grove]

I don’t pay attention to field upgrades anyway

Most of the time I don’t even know I have them

[limpid pond]

Yeah in mw19 tho you needed it with the sound whoring and camping

[arctic grove]

I have barely seen any campers in mw2019

[limpid pond]

There's were so many bro

[eager spire]

Then you didn't play MW19

[arctic grove]

I played every single cod since bo4

[limpid pond]

725 riot shield

[eager spire]

it's literally not possible to not run into campers in MW19

[limpid pond]

Snd literal corner camping

[arctic grove]

Cw and mw2019 I’ve played 25 hours each

[eager spire]

okay

[limpid pond]

Wild

[eager spire]

i feel like you're lying

[limpid pond]

I have like 2k hours in mw

Around 800 in cw

And like 300 in vg

[eager spire]

that's 300 hours too many

[arctic grove]

What bro

[limpid pond]

Yeah most my hours are from ranked tho

[arctic grove]

I mean I can’t judge since I have 4K hours in gmod but like

[eager spire]

oof

[arctic grove]

What

[limpid pond]

I played alot and was in masters

Never got to hit challenger

[arctic grove]

I can’t even start to imagine playing that much call of duty

[limpid pond]

I played competeitvly

[arctic grove]

I played 5 hours of vanguard and dropped the game

[limpid pond]

Not pro but challengers basically

[arctic grove]

I don’t play ranked

[limpid pond]

To get into challengers you have to play the ametuer league

I played for dmg inc

[eager spire]

I mean i can, i have like 800 hours in Black Ops 3

[limpid pond]

Oh dude you have chump hours

[eager spire]

and over a thousand hours in Bo2

[arctic grove]

Idk how much I have in bo3

But I played quite a bit

[limpid pond]

Bo3 was my favorite cod I easily have 2k hours in that game

Got dm twice

On my main and alt

[arctic grove]

I only have a single game I have over 1k hours in

[limpid pond]

Is that gmod?

[arctic grove]

Yes

I had to play over 4K hours to realise the entire community is toxic and the game is boring

[limpid pond]

I was good at vg too

Really fun ranked mode

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/GXR2X46S

[eager spire]

I liked Bo3, supply drops aside.

It has my favorite CoD campaign.

[arctic grove]

After talking to you I don’t know if I can ever call myself average at cod

[limpid pond]

Wdym

Average?

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/TEAZTQVN