battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

This is a massive server for a video game franchise

[limpid pond]

There's two of them

-_-

[cursive scroll]

i can tell im kinda impressed with it

[limpid pond]

• ----------__-

Homie has she/her in the bio I'm dead

[cursive scroll]

im trans is that a issue

[atomic egret]

[muted pebble]

like i said the server has been reported and we are here to investigate

[limpid pond]

Idk is it?

[next onyx]

Yeah Manic they're usually lying.

[limpid pond]

You tell me

[cursive scroll]

id hope not

[atomic egret]

[limpid pond]

Improper pronouns you must use she/her

[chilly jacinth]

He's just a weird lil guy trying to be funny

[limpid pond]

What if it was or wasn't

[arctic grove]

Way are you going insane?

[atomic egret]

No investigate until I've had my tea..

[frail sparrow]

Dear modmail, way is losing it again. Please send pills immediately and maybe a straight jacket

[atomic egret]

[cursive scroll]

hmmm

[hexed mango]

too bad, i ate the pills already

[next onyx]

I'm in a warm jacket.

[limpid pond]

💊💊💊💊

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bENEo.gif

[muted pebble]

wtf

[limpid pond]

This reminds me

Sir stop saying abbreviations for cuss words or we'll ask you to leave

[hexed mango]

joe

[limpid pond]

Who's joe?

[hexed mango]

joe mother

[limpid pond]

Oh to soon

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/8SgB.gif

[limpid pond]

Lmfao

That legit made me laugh

[frail sparrow]

So when's seine crossing being added to 2042?

[hexed mango]

tomorrow

[limpid pond]

tomorrow

[hexed mango]

and by tomorrow, i mean tomorrow when its tomorrow, after its already been tomorrow, once tomorrow has been yesterday

[atomic egret]

[limpid pond]

and by tomorrow, i mean tomorrow when its tomorrow, after its already been tomorrow, once tomorrow has been yesterday

[hexed mango]

yes

[limpid pond]

yes

[next onyx]

@frail sparrow You seen the new burned skins?

[hexed mango]

way send pics or it didnt happen

[atomic egret]

and by tomorrow, i mean tomorrow when its tomorrow, after its already been tomorrow, once tomorrow has been yesterday

[hexed mango]

i dont want to open 2042

[limpid pond]

way send pics or it didnt happen

[frail sparrow]

From liz etc? Looked good

[limpid pond]

i dont want to open 2042

[hexed mango]

holy shit

das hawt

[limpid pond]

holy shit

[hexed mango]

literally

[next onyx]

Literally.

LOL.

[hexed mango]

lol

[next onyx]

I posed for them too.

[limpid pond]

das hawt

[frail sparrow]

Oh they already ingame?

[limpid pond]

Literally

Lol

[hexed mango]

sundance should be a model

[frail sparrow]

I want that sas mask

[next onyx]

Yeah the firestarter bundle.

[limpid pond]

sundance should be a model

[hexed mango]

das hot

[limpid pond]

das hot

[hexed mango]

fire skin in fire

[next onyx]

Please don't repeat what people are saying dread.

[limpid pond]

fire skin in fire

Aw man

[hexed mango]

ok fine im opening the game to check it out

[cursive scroll]

welp ive seen enough enough be safe and enjoy your day /night

[next onyx]

New AK skin.

[limpid pond]

Uno reverse

[arctic grove]

You mean you haven’t already opened the game to buy boins and play some CQ128?

[next onyx]

Take care!

[frail sparrow]

Firestorm coming soon? 👀

[limpid pond]

No I hope not

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind a new season themed around fire.

Bf5's cinder skins were amazing.

[frail sparrow]

It lits uup

[next onyx]

They were genuinely fucked in the best way possible.

[limpid pond]

Yes there were

I loved all of them

Bf5 skins in general were good

[frail sparrow]

Plonnk

[next onyx]

Yeah technically they can still fire if their internals aren't fucked but god DAMN they looked so good.

[limpid pond]

The Halloween ones were good too

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that too.

The burned bundle on bf5 was my favourite.

[hexed mango]

if only the game looked like this

[next onyx]

The jackets were so good.

Ye.

[limpid pond]

I hope they do a burned skin for all characters

[next onyx]

Bf5's British burned jacket was my favourite jacket in the game.

[hexed mango]

holy shit its a mackay skin!!

[arctic grove]

YOU MEAN WITH PLAYABLE AI SKINS?

[next onyx]

YEAH It's a Mackay skin I should of specified that.

[frail sparrow]

That's the new map

[hexed mango]

quite

[limpid pond]

Cap

New map is called lights out and supposed to be themed around snow

[arctic grove]

Can confirm that I also wish the game looked like that

[hexed mango]

this is a nice skin, too bad im not buying boins

[frail sparrow]

How much is the fire bundle?

[hexed mango]

1.750

[next onyx]

Wish it were 1500.

[limpid pond]

So about 20$

[nocturne knot]

oof

[next onyx]

1500 makes more sense.

[hexed mango]

i wish i had boins

[next onyx]

I wish these bundles were a bit better priced.

[limpid pond]

I have 2200 boins

[next onyx]

750 - 1000 - 1500 is a fair price.

[limpid pond]

Been saving for a sick paik skin

[hexed mango]

buy me boins and joe

[arctic grove]

Joe will run you about

[hexed mango]

hey guys i think i like irish

[arctic grove]

10k boins

[frail sparrow]

Prolly overpriced due halloween themed

[next onyx]

Oh yeah.

[limpid pond]

Dheesh

[next onyx]

What do you think of the changes to Irish?

Echo.

Making him a medic.

[hexed mango]

havent tried it yet

what changed

oh

[next onyx]

It's not out yet.

[hexed mango]

yes,

i think its a decent change ngl

[next onyx]

In my opinion he'll be made even better.

[hexed mango]

especially with crawdaddy going to engineer

makes a lot of sense ngl

[next onyx]

Irish will still be niche to an extent but he'll be an easy B+ or an A.

[limpid pond]

I'm hoping med pens can be used by all classes tho

[next onyx]

Med pens assault exclusive.

[hexed mango]

i dont think they can

yeah

[next onyx]

They'll be fucked.

[hexed mango]

i dont love that change ngl

but we'll see how it goes

[next onyx]

One thing I hope they do for assault is nerf Mackay but tweak assault rifles for it.

[hexed mango]

i dont like medpens in general

[next onyx]

60% faster movement speed over other weapons on assault solely.

[next onyx]

Change nimble to mount faster.

There Mackay is balanced.

[hexed mango]

agreed

[next onyx]

He's well balanced but ironically I think he's too good at the same time.

[frail sparrow]

Irish shouldn't be niche. His gadget are absolutely killer. His nade or projectile removal ability can really solidify a defense

[next onyx]

True though I'm speaking from some one who mained Mackay.

[hexed mango]

doom

[next onyx]

That's a good helmet I will admit.

[hexed mango]

ye

[next onyx]

But I didn't buy anything from that event.

[hexed mango]

ima play one round of m of a bt

and then sleep

[next onyx]

Fair enough.

[hexed mango]

thats what im talking about

[frail sparrow]

I've been playing a lot of rao lately. Disabling vehicles and hacking people to spot a ton of people is rather useful

[hexed mango]

rao is daddy

[tulip prism]

constant game crashing after the update. sad

[hexed mango]

ooh

i guess when i played when it came out, the new layout wasnt out yet

[next onyx]

Yeah Corzi there's an issue with stability. Dice is aware of it.

[limpid pond]

Rao was easy to do back when vehicle spam was super bad

[next onyx]

Yeah they seem to activate the new layouts on the following week when they update the playlist.

Which is annoying.

But it is what it is.

[arctic grove]

This was cursed

Now that I look at it closely that doesn’t look normal

[frail sparrow]

Huh is that different? Does that go to d?

[hexed mango]

ye

its similar to the og orbital 128bt layout

[frail sparrow]

Ah nice

[next onyx]

They added another sector at the start really.

Changes the burn.

[arctic grove]

Ohhhh wait that’s right

[hexed mango]

it feels nice though

[next onyx]

Kind of makes sense from an attacking standpoint.

Yeah it is nice.

[frail sparrow]

I feel like they should just do bt variations on their maps. Could be neat for variety

[hexed mango]

its better than the 128p where its closer, but nicer than the 64p cause it has 2 obj

[arctic grove]

Agreed, instead of one layout they could use different parts of the map for several types

[next onyx]

At the start I had the 128p PTSD coming in.

Because of how bad that layout was.

[hexed mango]

lol

i like this layout a lot from a visual perspective

[arctic grove]

BT on the left side of Manifest would be dope

[next onyx]

Yeah it's nice.

[arctic grove]

I think it’s the RU spawn in cq

[next onyx]

Do think Manifest BT could use a bit of a change.

Would be cool if they used the tunnels for an objective but I do bet that they did explore that.

And found it to be unfun.

[arctic grove]

True, probably already experimented with different stuff

[hexed mango]

if orbital is anything to the quality of future reworks, manifest rework is gonna be top notch especially with the layout tweaks

[frail sparrow]

I feel like a rework for manifest would just be more containers :3

[next onyx]

Probably just better utilisation of the resources on hand.

I still remember how much you hated Aerodrome Jer lol.

[frail sparrow]

Orbital rewprk made the map feel so different. Def good rework

[next onyx]

It shows that with time dice is capable.

[frail sparrow]

Hated? Hate xd

[next onyx]

Just they weren't given the time to do anytthing.

Oh you still hate it.

[next onyx]

HA.

[frail sparrow]

I still get nightmares

Where i am back on the barracks and everyone's just fighting in the hangar and letting the other points suffer

It's nice in breakthrough though. It just doesn't make sense in cq

Funnily enough i now prefer the linear modes more in 2042 than cq

[next onyx]

Ye.

[hexed mango]

way what gun should i use

[next onyx]

You have p90?

[hexed mango]

ye

[next onyx]

Use it!

Kobra, Flash suppressor and laser!

[hexed mango]

aye aye

[frail sparrow]

Also a pocket p90 for the memes, please

[hexed mango]

100%

[next onyx]

This game insists on giving me defence. -.-

[frail sparrow]

I really want to like the aks, but haven't decided yet if i enjoy it

[hexed mango]

lasers are green now?

[next onyx]

There's a Blue dot sight and a green dot sight.

[hexed mango]

you mean laser?

[next onyx]

They do the same but they'll reduce recoil by 5% and improve moving hipfire accuracy.

Err laser.

Yes.

The Green dot is for PDW's.

The blue is for assault rifles.

[hexed mango]

is LS-1 the green one?

[night vessel]

ahh they look the same holy snap

[hexed mango]

they are the same

[frail sparrow]

That's kinda smart. Let's player easier see what gun the nemi is using

[hexed mango]

[night vessel]

same voice line as well

[hexed mango]

i already finished that campaign

t'was fun

[night vessel]

Cod be copying Battlefield

[frail sparrow]

Same actor used?

[night vessel]

yes sir

same voice line

[hexed mango]

one thing i still hate about 2042 is the performance

[frail sparrow]

Funny

[night vessel]

Glenn Morshower is the actor

[frail sparrow]

Perf fine on my part, but i haz fine rig :(

[night vessel]

yikes it is him!!!

[rigid hollow]

sup yall

[frail sparrow]

Only thing i want to upgrade is my monitor

[rigid hollow]

how so?

[worthy inlet]

[hexed mango]

my rig is good... yet i still can barely get good fps on low/med settings

[queen trout]

Instead of complaining ima try to adjust instead

[fiery dawn]

MWII campaign was good. Really enjoyed it

[hexed mango]

same

[frail sparrow]

Was it long?

[hexed mango]

felt really well made and was pretty fun

[mystic sinew]

Sup guys!!

[fiery dawn]

yo

[hexed mango]

i finished it in 10h

[frail sparrow]

Wazzzaaap

[fiery dawn]

damn

took your time?

[hexed mango]

yteah

[fiery dawn]

fair

[mystic sinew]

Wazzzaaap!!!

[hexed mango]

and i hated the fucking ||sneaking and crafting missions||

[frail sparrow]

Not bad, i'd say

[hexed mango]

other than that, fun all around

[fiery dawn]

I think it took me around 8 hours but I heard people were finishing it in like 6 or 7

[hexed mango]

the opening mission was amazing

[fiery dawn]

Yeah the missions with no gun weren’t the most fun. But mostly just different for me. Didn’t expect to have to play that way. Got used to it but had way more fun in the other missions

The sniper mission was a bit lame honestly

And the one mission was just driving and shooting down one highway for the entire mission. Other than that, was pretty good all around

[hexed mango]

yeah the camo one was just meh, especially having to sneak past people, just wasnt fun
but the ones with the gunfights and fun infiltration were enjoyable

[fiery dawn]

Definitely

[hexed mango]

bro

man really just did /effect @s invisibility

[fiery dawn]

That’s my favorite thing about these newer modern warfare campaigns. The slow pace, tactical infiltration and clearing of buildings with your AI squad who are quite capable on their own yet give you lots of opportunities to feel like a badass. They are quite immersive missions

[hexed mango]

where laser go

[fiery dawn]

lol

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I’ve been killed by a couple invisible players the past few weeks it’s really annoying

[hexed mango]

time to stop playing 2042 for another 3 weeks

[fiery dawn]

yeah I got pretty frustrated trying to play it tonight and once it crashed I didn’t bother re-launching

[mystic sinew]

Same issue

[fiery dawn]

[mystic sinew]

We can’t kill Casper lol

[fiery dawn]

Casper got a buff 🤣

[mystic sinew]

🫠

Lol

[cyan trout]

That MW2 campaign though

[hexed mango]

why tf did they put the timer here

nice

rao's stuck back here

i think he's shy

[next onyx]

No idea. It's not like this game has persistent servers anyways.

People be like "play portal" yeah let me play a mode where it's just XP farms.

[bitter skiff]

boin

[arctic grove]

It’s probably got something to do with the games playercount, that’s why i suspect they didn’t add a server browser

[eager spire]

what the laser doin

[dark stirrup]

why can't i buy battlefield coins (boins)

[grizzled whale]

remove the boins part

they are simply battlefield coins

[arctic grove]

Boins

[bitter skiff]

boin!

Are you in or are you out?

Hit me on my beeper

[arctic grove]

Boins

[bitter skiff]

no other way

[eager spire]

no they're boins

[next onyx]

It's just Avancy's spam.

Cringe gun.

[bitter skiff]

boin?

[eager spire]

it's only DICE's fault, they made the gun and then released it

[tiny python]

Feels like only 3 guns actually kill me

Avancys, 12M and AM 40

[fiery dawn]

AM40? that’s surprising

I’d replace that one with SFAR

other two are accurate for sure though

[lusty temple]

Nuclear bomb live event when

Honestly I have been thinking about an idea for a pretty grim live event for the past few days

[grizzled whale]

the bomb goes off and every other battlefield game gets shut down

2042 will be the only battlefield game left

ever

[lusty temple]

It starts out with Battlefield not making any announcement or statement that there will be a live event, but they will purposefully leave out some files for leakers like temporyal to catch on that something is going down on like a specific date/time

Normal youtubers/streamers will prob catch wind of this and say that Battlefield must make the announcement soon or something but that never really happens

When the day comes, the regular player base along with some extra players prob being hyped about this join in to see that nothings really any different but that changes when they load up into a regular match

[eager spire]

this sounds incredibly high effort

so they're not gonna do that

[lusty temple]

Yeah I know lmao but its fun to think about it

[grizzled whale]

my idea is far better

after that they will rebrand it to battlefield infinite

[eager spire]

that would be terrible

[grizzled whale]

no

2042 is the best BF game anyway

[eager spire]

no it's not

[grizzled whale]

no need for the others

[eager spire]

stop that

[lusty temple]

In all the base maps there will be a suspicious looking container that has been added in a place that seems a bit obvious and when a player approaches it gives them the option to report to their commander whether it may be russian or us

[grizzled whale]

2042 is the best one dude

[eager spire]

no

[grizzled whale]

yes

[eager spire]

no

[grizzled whale]

i am angel

everything i say is fact

[eager spire]

nah

[grizzled whale]

yah

[lusty temple]

Do you really have nothing better to do than to shit on other games because Battlefield had a terrible launch and you can't do anything else besides trolling about it

[eager spire]

...Not at the moment, no.

[lusty temple]

Wasn't even directed at you

[eager spire]

I don't really see anything wrong with what i'm saying, it's not like Angel's idea is any good.

Oh, okay.

[grizzled whale]

i am angel

everything i say is fact

[lusty temple]

So as angel, how does it feel that the next update is ultimately nerfing you with defibrillators and less proficiency on assault and sniper weapons

[grizzled whale]

i main mackay

but i am angel

[lusty temple]

Yeah no shit you do

[fiery dawn]

🤣

[eager spire]

every infantry player in this game mains mackay, why would you not do that

unless you're playing Lis

[next onyx]

I hope they nerf Mackay's nimble and make assault have the 60% increased movement ADS speed with assault rifles.

[grizzled whale]

mackay should be recon

[next onyx]

Irish is also a very good pick for infantry.

Infact he'll be even better.

[eager spire]

I don’t even trust them to do that properly

[fading wharf]

when i realise i only got 2 weeks left to finish the battle pass

[lusty temple]

I don't even understand how the devs thought it would be balanced to give Mackay a perm med pen in his inventory and then give support defibrillators when they already have that

The entire point of support role is to help others but if that change pushes through there will be no need for support at all

[quaint wigeon]

sometimes i think i lower my expectations enough to be happy with the latest patches

[eager spire]

I can understand why they did that, med pen is basically a mandatory thing for aggressive play in this game because health regen is so slow

[quaint wigeon]

but im wrong

[austere dirge]

au contraire.... im an infantry idiot that mains falck

[eager spire]

It's the same reason that Stim exists.

[eager spire]

correction, every infantry player that isn't an idiot

[austere dirge]

i had no idea mackay had the increased ADS movement for so long. i just assumed everyone loved the grapple

[lusty temple]

But if they want to implement a class system that has the team actually working out as a team instead of Mackay's just doing whatever the fuck they want they shouldn't give assault the ability to heal themselves

[eager spire]

He's had that since launch

[austere dirge]

im aware

[eager spire]

To be fair, even when class systems were working properly, you'd be hard pressed to find people who actually "work as a team" in the way people would actually think that works.

You only ever really found that in organized lobbies or smaller competitive matches.

You don't find that in public lobbies at all, full stop.

You can't force that kind of teamwork in public lobbies, it doesn't work and just ends up making the game less fun and playable.

[austere dirge]

i think one of the bigger issues with 2042 is the meta of traversal. sundance and mackay have abilities that very strongly reward lone wolfing because you have dominant access to positioning compared to specialists without extra mobility

[bitter skiff]

I hope that classes make SOME modes feel a little l more squad/comms oriented

[edgy oriole]

It wont

[eager spire]

I don't think they will.

[austere dirge]

you can never establish a mental frontline because mackay can always grapple above and get behind and sundance can fly from far away positions to behind your enemy lines with ease

[edgy oriole]

Hopefully they add the bfv feature of you being able to grab supplies from supports.

[bitter skiff]

mental?

[austere dirge]

a general direction that you can expect enemies from for the most part. in 2042 i find myself having to watch for threats from basically all 360 degrees around me

[lusty temple]

The formula of class's working together only works when they're all at one point fighting against the team

[bitter skiff]

10-4

[eager spire]

I don't understand that definition, is that not always the case.

[lusty temple]

Sure it may work horribly in general but those moments when that happens it works out perfectly with support providing the actual support and assault/recon are doing their job at fighting off the enemy

[eager spire]

Those are a rarity in public lobbies and only ever really happen on accident rather than on purpose.

And the people doing that are often people that are very good at the game, not even working in the interest of teamwork, but "lone wolfing".

or in a squad of friends who generally do not care about the rest of the team.

[lusty temple]

Having Angel/Falck/Irish holding down the objective and providing support to everyone else really can make an impact on the outcome of the match

A lone wolf can only do so much

[eager spire]

A lone wolf who is very good at the game can do a lot, actually, because being good at the game means you get a lot of kills, killing a lot of enemies means there's less people to combat the objectives, making the objectives easier to take.

[lusty temple]

Yeah but you're forgetting that the other team has that too

[eager spire]

yeah well at that point it's just a fight between who has the better players.

no amount of teamwork as you define it can really help if you have generally shit players on your team.

[austere dirge]

i think the encouraging of teamwork is also a matter of player incentive. in BF1 you got points per HP healed as a medic, you got points for every chunk of ammo resupplied as support and health repaired to vehicles. the non combative helper roles gave you fat rewards XP wise, enough to land you on the top of the leaderboard even if you had negative KD. thats still possible as medic in 2042 but only if you heavily revive. repairing will give you jack shit in terms of leaderboard placement. its been a while since i ran ammo boxes so idk what its like for that

[eager spire]

and considering this community seems to have a problem with people who are generally good or skilled at the video game, it's no wonder situations where you get completely stomped show up so often, because nobody on your team is any good and nobody has any motivation to get better, hell, those people are often calling for people who have gotten better to stop playing the game.

[austere dirge]

if you dont give support roles that dopamine rush of being high placed on the team just for supporting other players, even less will opt to run those roles. thats my assessment

[austere dirge]

havent seen ppl do that but i have seen ppl complain that the game is a twitchy shooter in chat

[eager spire]

i mean it's an arcade shooter.

so of course it's going to be.

But battlefield has always been like that.

[austere dirge]

yeah im not really bent up about it

BF4 is jumpshooters galore

[eager spire]

if you haven't gotten used to it by now you should really stop and consider if you really wanna be playing the game.

[austere dirge]

im not a git gud kinda guy but sometimes you just gotta git gud

[eager spire]

Not even git gud, just get better, cause a lot of people will look at a person who has gotten better and complain about it.

[austere dirge]

yeah thats prevalent in competitive gaming across the board

its even worse in COD lol

[eager spire]

"BuT bAtTlEfIeLd IsN't A cOmPeTiTiVe ShOoTeR"

[austere dirge]

i calmly point at the scoreboard and then jumpshot them around the corner with my 12M auto flechette rounds

[eager spire]

CoD has a different issue with that kind of play.

the prevalence of skill based matchmaking basically demands constant meta usage, or high amounts of skill if you're not using the meta, all the time.

[wide shore]

Boy am I glad BF doesn’t have that

[austere dirge]

yeah SBMM is a whole can of worms. ive grown more tolerant of it these days but when it first became a thing in games i was really not a fan. but then i played older games that dont have SBMM and realized it doesnt make much difference for me personally. there will always be sweaties and noobies and those in between

[eager spire]

well yeah because BF generally has matches that are too large in playercount for that to work properly

it's easier to do that in 5v5/6v6 but it's not so easy to do that in 32v32/64v64

[austere dirge]

haha yeah if 2042 was a success you can bet ur ass it was gonna have SBMM. thats the whole reason disbanding lobbies is a thing i think

[quaint wigeon]

how tf is the ghostmaker not a one shot kill at any range

[wide shore]

I had fun my first like, 3 games of the MW2 beta and it all just went downhill

[quaint wigeon]

is this game fucking bullshitting me

[wide shore]

It is if you get a headshot

[austere dirge]

one shot headshot at any range. one shot body kill at like 15m max

[austere dirge]

luckily that game offers a lot of modes at various sweat levels so i will be chillin

[wide shore]

I will be ignoring it like the plague as I’ve done with COD since BO2.

[eager spire]

Like i said, it demands constant meta usage. Not using the meta is possible, but doing that often means you'll end up getting matched against people who are using the meta, and if you win, then you'll end up getting put in matches with worse teammates against people who are using the meta, and if you lose, you get people who do that anyway but just aren't good.

I've gone over this before.

[austere dirge]

i was off COD for like 10 years but i played warzone for while in 2020 and ive really enjoyed the MW2 beta all the way through so ill be betting on that horse

[eager spire]

I'm not buying MW22. I'm not supporting that trashcan of a company.

[wide shore]

Only thing I like about MW2 are the pretty gun animations.

[austere dirge]

i would argue that if you use off meta weapons it will bring your SBMM down more consistently assuming you struggle with it lol

[wide shore]

I’m a big sucker for reload animations

[eager spire]

not if you happen to be decent at the game despite using off meta.

[austere dirge]

me too. the animations are certainly a highlight. they went above and beyond with the inspect animations

[austere dirge]

we shall see how i fare when i get my hands on MP in 2 days

[wide shore]

That Vector reload where the operator slightly misses the magwell before getting it in.

[austere dirge]

all companies stink of something these days. but i respect the principle

[austere dirge]

hahaha i know exactly what youre talking about. animators are goated with that sauce

[eager spire]

i mean I don't really play much in terms of AAA stuff these days anyway.

[next onyx]

@arctic grove YEAH THE FUCKING BOYS.

[wide shore]

It’s the subtle stuff. Like the mag release cache moving when inserting a mag

[next onyx]

Ow my leg.

[wide shore]

2042 has that, thankfully

[quaint wigeon]

cant believe im really gona sit here and get this crossbow t1 im gona suffer

[austere dirge]

yeah for all the flak 2042 catches, the animations are pretty good

[austere dirge]

enjoy!

[eager spire]

unless you look at the AEK animations, i don't really care for them.

i think the AEK animations kind of suck ass

[austere dirge]

ditto. aside from 2042 and MW2 i havent really been on that scene

[austere dirge]

now that you mention i guess it is kind of a mixed bag. some animations are satisfying and others feel kinda dull

GOL magnum bolt pull is 👌

[eager spire]

Portal weapons are either recycled animations from 2042, or animations that vary from okay to not great

[austere dirge]

12M auto reloads are good enough

[eager spire]

yeah but i don't give a fuck about the 12M auto, if 2042 was a better game that wouldn't have survived playtesting.

[austere dirge]

the other bolt action rifles in 2042 definitely dont have the GOL animation

[wide shore]

PBX and SFAR have the best reloads

[austere dirge]

hahaha its true

[eager spire]

Like i wanna know who made the 12M Auto like that, playtested it, and said that was okay

I wanna ask them why

[austere dirge]

i wanna meet em and shake their hand for making the game easy for me

[wide shore]

Oh, also the M44 showing Treyarch’s dumbasses how to properly do a revolver reload.

[eager spire]

Yeah but the M44 is single action and that's kind of trash for a BF revolver

especially coming off the revolvers in every game prior

[austere dirge]

i would appreciate the M44 more if it didnt take them like 8 months to fix the tactical reload bug where if you reloaded without emptying the revolver first, it would give you 5 rounds

[wide shore]

Actually counting how many rounds are fired, and which ones are extracted/emptied. It’s nice

[eager spire]

it's slow and stupid and considering mouse input doesn't work properly, not worth using.

[austere dirge]

^

[wide shore]

The Rex is a good revolver

[eager spire]

yeah and how long did it take for them to add that

[austere dirge]

too long 😭

[eager spire]

exactly

[wide shore]

I’m just sayin

[austere dirge]

and it was technically already in the game. they just put into the core modes lol

[eager spire]

they don't get points for adding a decent revolver nearly a year into the game's life.

[wide shore]

I wasn’t giving them credit. I was saying the Rex is good

[eager spire]

especially not when the revolver was technically already in the game the entire time.

[austere dirge]

i'll be unlocking it first thing when im back on 2042

[eager spire]

like their handling of Portal weapons to AOW is hideous.

[austere dirge]

ima wait until the hubbub about the instability on PC is resolved first

[wide shore]

I was shredding with the ACR earlier.

Had a good round with the AKS too. AKS needs better damage at range though.

It being in the SMG category and getting that shitty headshot blanket damage sucks

[austere dirge]

i have heard mixed opinions about the latest guns from portal

[eager spire]

Eh, i've heard bad things about the ACR and AKS, i've heard they have that dumbass reload delay that the M16 had, and also the ACR has a weird ammo count for no reason

[wide shore]

It’s 27 which I’m pretty sure is what it had in BF3

[austere dirge]

blame the manufacturer i guess lol

[wide shore]

I also haven’t noticed a reload delay, but maybe I just wasn’t looking for it

I like using the AKS even if it’s not amazing. AKs are cool

[eager spire]

Hell, even Alex was confused when someone mentioned the delay

[austere dirge]

i am a slut for anything and everything remotely resembling a shotgun

[eager spire]

because apparently Alex didn't even test it to see if that was the case, because he claimed he removed it.

But he didn't.

[wide shore]

And I already have like mastery 88 on the AK24.

[wide shore]

Interesting

[eager spire]

i even have a screenshot of him claiming that

but i can't post it because i'm not regular

[wide shore]

I’ll have to check if I notice it tomorrow

[eager spire]

Also the ACW-R in BF4 doesn't have a weirdo mag capacity, I donno why they chose to go with the BF3 version.

[wide shore]

Cause they have BF3 in portal and not BF4

[eager spire]

Like I know it's cause it fires like 6.5x39mm Grendel ammo in BF3 but really who givers a shit about that, it's not like it makes that big of a difference, and the BF4 version is better balanced anyway.

see my statement

[wide shore]

I certainly don’t think it would hurt to just give it an even 30

But, it has good dps so I’m not too fussed about the 27 shots

[eager spire]

I don't think it would hurt either because having it be 27 rounds, presumably doing the same damage as the BF3 version, seems a bit weak.

[wide shore]

It’s vertical recoil makes it almost dance towards the head

And with the increased headshot damage across all ARs, it’s pretty good

I mean, it’s no SFAR, but it’s decent

[eager spire]

Consulting with friends of mine who are more knowledgeable than i am, it's like a 4 BTK.

[wide shore]

Not bad for the rof

The M16 is a shredder now

[eager spire]

but then again the clip they supplied probably had people who were injured in it, cause they got a 5 kill feed with it

[wide shore]

Definitely then. Lol

But it’s good. I’d give it a try if you haven’t already

It’s a little bouncy but nothing that isn’t manageable.

[eager spire]

that would require me buying the game and i ain't doin' that, not for what they're wanting to charge for it right now.

[wide shore]

Oh, lol

I didn’t know you didn’t have it. My B

[eager spire]

it's fine

i just happen to see people who do have it talk about it.

[wide shore]

Fair

[eager spire]

most of my opinions are formed from their experiences with it.

[bitter skiff]

game?

[wide shore]

?emag

[bitter skiff]

you dont have 2042? Am I misunderstanding?

[errant scarab]

Intel kill amd again

[eager spire]

I did literally just say that yes

[bitter skiff]

my game keeps freezing over and over BYW... anyone else?

[eager spire]

that seems to be a common issue

[wide shore]

It is.

[eager spire]

given DICE's timeframe they'll probably fix it in a few months

[bitter skiff]

thanks for saying it again, for those of us not hanging on your every word there boss!

[eager spire]

i mean i have a 1080p screen and i can see the message where i said that just fine. I don't think i'm expecting too much for you to read some context before you ask a question. especially since you replied to the post i made immediately after i said that.

[wide shore]

Forgot to post this earlier. This little bastard thought he broke my ankles

[bitter skiff]

naturally, I was tricked by the fact that you are here, tyiping your ass off. Most people here probably own the game.

[next onyx]

Wouwd yew wike some neww ankwes?

[eager spire]

yes because that is generally what people join a discord server for.

[wide shore]

Please

[eager spire]

typing their ass off.

that's not an unusual thing to do, my guy.

[next onyx]

Ankew wankews? owo

[wide shore]

Uwu Jima

[eager spire]

OwO

[wide shore]

I need to see if there’s any solutions to the jacked up audio on Xbox clips.

Sometimes my clips record with no audio at all, or the audio is drastically out of sync. It’s never perfect.

Really annoying.

[bitter skiff]

No, talking so much in a forum about a game that you dont own.... it is quite natural that I would think that its wa quite illogical, and possibly silly. Please forgive my misunderstanding and accept my apologies.

[wind geyser]

Anyone had battle pass tokens since update, my points havnt increased in a week

[wide shore]

Towards battlepass progress? Or for the badge?

Badge progress is borked. But if it’s not counting toward your battlepass then something is definitely not right

[eager spire]

i mean it's not like ownership of the game is required to have an opinion about it, especially not when you have friends who do own the game and share their experiences with it relatively regularly. It's quite natural to form opinions based on those experiences, and it's natural to want to share them.

[bitter skiff]

Experience playing the game is a prerequisite for an opinion. 100%

1000%

[eager spire]

Hmm...no.

[wide shore]

It’s a good rule or thumb but not without exception.

[bitter skiff]

Illogical

[eager spire]

furthermore, cry about it.

I don't care.

[wind geyser]

Sorry towards the badge, done all the weeks missions and gone up atleast 2 levels n no progress on badge no of pionts

[wide shore]

Yeah, it’s been bugged. Was last season too.

Only way I know of progressing it is to host your own portal server and sit inside it. And just keep checking the progress in the pause menu.

[bitter skiff]

"Do you even PLAY bro?" LOL

[wind geyser]

Tried tht but doesnt seem to update since last update

[austere dirge]

wait WHAT

silver you talk mad shit about this game every time i see you in this channel and you dont even own it 😭 what the hell

[bitter skiff]

LOL

[eager spire]

Because it deserves it.

[bitter skiff]

not smart

[austere dirge]

to an extent i agree but its just kinda weird lol

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[austere dirge]

you should devote your energy to more relevant things

[bitter skiff]

what game is good?

[austere dirge]

everyone already knows this game is kinda bad

[eager spire]

it's not like this takes up a lot of my energy.

[austere dirge]

devote your time*

[eager spire]

like i'm just doing this while doing other things.

[austere dirge]

fair enough

[bitter skiff]

annoying

[eager spire]

Portal 2.

[austere dirge]

agreeable

[bitter skiff]

never heard of it

[austere dirge]

"this is the part where i kill you" is one of the most memorable single player experiences ive had haha

[eager spire]

I'm not sure how you can be alive in the current year and not have heard of Portal 2. Or even Portal.

[austere dirge]

something tells me jake is trying to get a rise outta u

[eager spire]

possibly.

[bitter skiff]

honestly never heard ofthat

[austere dirge]

that is so funny that you dont even play the game. this whole time i thought you were like a 2042/BF4 main

[eager spire]

nah i'm just a BF4 main

[austere dirge]

respectable

[bitter skiff]

pacman only

[eager spire]

and i'm not even playing BF4 at the moment because my mouse is broken

and i haven't been able to replace it yet

[austere dirge]

manifesting that a replacement comes your way sooner rather than later

[limpid pond]

Smgs are so shit its not funny

[eager spire]

yeah. I'm planning on grabbing a wireless Model D from Glorious. Cause i like my Model O-

[eager spire]

blame DICE for that, because apparently SMG's are "not a weapon which should reward accuracy versus other weapon types"

[arctic grove]

bro

[next onyx]

I should look at getting something like a viper pro.

[arctic grove]

Flying on 200 ping is actually aids

[limpid pond]

Crazy right

[arctic grove]

LOL

[next onyx]

That jet was cancer.

[austere dirge]

looks clean. and lightweight. ive been considering making the switch to lightweight for a while

[eager spire]

absolutely crazy

[next onyx]

Dude had radar rockets.

[arctic grove]

Get the viper mini!! It’s my current mouse

[limpid pond]

Wild to me that they decided to make smgs so bad.

Like my mp9 takes almost 11 bullets to kill

[eager spire]

I like my lightweight mouse. It's served me well in the last couple years i had it.

[next onyx]

SMG's can be rather powerful. But the headshot reduction shouldn't be a thing.

They've even applied it to pistols.

Fucking pistols.

[eager spire]

Unfortunately, it's started doubleclicking on the right mouse button

[next onyx]

And now they're even more shit.

[austere dirge]

its cuz they made em too OP at launch so theyre over-compensating now

[eager spire]

so it's basically useless for gaming these days. :(

[arctic grove]

I miss HS Multi

[next onyx]

They always sat in an alright place.

But they got a nerf they didn't need.

[austere dirge]

U__U hate to see it

[limpid pond]

I know. Like the mp9 and k30 were so good at launch but now they just hit marker like crazy

[eager spire]

I maintain that the only reason they reduced the headshot multiplier for SMG's was because they couldn't nerf the K30 in any way that mattered otherwise.

[limpid pond]

I got through a 40 round mag on 4 people. 4 PEOPLE

[austere dirge]

never forget the age of the pp-29

[limpid pond]

50*

[austere dirge]

literally EVERYONE ran that gun it was comical

[limpid pond]

Pp29 was very good

[arctic grove]

29 was so fun pre nerf

[limpid pond]

I ran the pbx at that time

[eager spire]

well yeah cause it was the only gun that worked on launch :V

[limpid pond]

I was tryna get on the leaderboard with the worst smg at the time

[austere dirge]

yeah because it was a fucking laser at every distance lmao

[arctic grove]

It’s still fun even after but man that pre nerf 29 was so fun

I remember on breakaway

I killed some guy around 130 or so M away from me

[limpid pond]

Breakaway was the best map at launch for 128 bt

[austere dirge]

didnt 2042 have bloom issues at launch too? like pp29 was the only gun that didnt have spread basically

[limpid pond]

Literally so many fights and kills to be had on that map

[eager spire]

yes

[limpid pond]

Bloom issues and hit reg issues

[austere dirge]

the hit reg lasted for a long time

like until season 1 i think

[arctic grove]

128 BT Break was such a fun kill farm map

[next onyx]

It's like with this stupid SMG logic, LMG's shouldn't have the 2x multiplier.

[limpid pond]

Like I have a clip of me full magging someone with the lcmg why they were paying attention and they didn't die

[austere dirge]

i lament that i upgraded my PC only after 128 BT was taken away

[arctic grove]

SMG’s should instead :)

[limpid pond]

Smgs should be good period

[austere dirge]

when the game first launched i was running a lot of solo/coop and i could count on 20 hands how many times bullets were going straight through bots

[limpid pond]

Same here. It was even worse when you would mag someone then they would turn around and shoot you

[austere dirge]

nothing but pain

[limpid pond]

Happened to me countless time

Anyone remember prenerf ak24 tho

[arctic grove]

me

[austere dirge]

yes

[eager spire]

I swear they only did it cause they couldn't nerf the K30 in any way that mattered.

[limpid pond]

That shit haunted me as a smg user

[arctic grove]

K30 is just simply brrrr

[limpid pond]

Literally a 2 bullet head and 3 bullet body

[eager spire]

I will maintain that position till i die, that's the only way that nerf makes sense.

[austere dirge]

i didnt get to use it but apparently the anti-vehicle rounds for the NTW pre-nerf were powerful as fuck

[limpid pond]

Never used the new during launch

Was to busy tryna master the damn vacr

Vcar

Talk about pain

[austere dirge]

they would've had to nerf it the same way they nerfed miniguns on helis. 40 bullets to kill one infantry lol

[arctic grove]

It’s true

I mean I never used them but it’s true

[austere dirge]

i dont get that nerf tbh. the NTW is already such an unruly weapon

[limpid pond]

It's very rewarding though

[eager spire]

yeah, but then everyone would complain. Doing it like this, means not as many people are complaining.

[limpid pond]

But I still don't understand the bullet path on the gun

[eager spire]

Except people who read the patch notes and read the justification for it

[austere dirge]

nothing quite like watching your specialist complete a full bolt pull and then switching 0.001 seconds too early and watching them pull that bolt again

[eager spire]

which is absolutely insane.

[limpid pond]

I've aimed directly at peoppe and still don't hit them

Kinda confusing

[eager spire]

I really hope whoever wrote that does not work at DICE anymore, and if they still do, they should be fired.

[austere dirge]

slow bullet velocity

[limpid pond]

I guess man. The gun is cool but weird for me

[austere dirge]

feels good to one shot drop infantry but the anti vehicle rounds are kinda pointless

[limpid pond]

I would use them anyways

[eager spire]

They should not be in any position of authority over any FPS game development with takes like "SMG's are not weapons that should reward accuracy versus other weapon types"

????????????

[limpid pond]

Yeah smgs are a dominat catergory irl

[arctic grove]

I mean.

Usually fast fire rate

Decent round

yeah I’d say so

[limpid pond]

Fast fire rates with great mobility since they're compact and normally they drop faster than ars doo

[austere dirge]

its cool and weird and has an absurd bolt pull that will restart if you dont wait like a full second after the pull before switching weapons lol

[limpid pond]

Ars do more damage but you can get more 9mm off before someone shoots a 5.56 or 7.6

[austere dirge]

the vector is monstrous in tarkov so yeah smgs are pretty powerful. i think battlefield has always been kinda weird with its balancing decisions

[next onyx]

I bet the reason why they decreased the SMG HS multiplier was because of all the vectors and p90's.

How people felt they were dying to fast from them.

But here's the thing.

[arctic grove]

well…

[next onyx]

Reduce the HS for THOSE guns.

[arctic grove]

With RIP rounds yes

[limpid pond]

Probably p90 was decent. Bloom was a bit dumb tho

[arctic grove]

but with normal rounds he’ll no

hell*

[austere dirge]

lets not get into the specifics for the sake of everyone here lol. but i get what youre saying

[arctic grove]

Lmaooo yeah not everyone understands the way of tark tark 🙏

[tiny python]

Bfv I got gold mastery on every SMG for medic class, this game I don't even use SMGS

[eager spire]

Yeah I don't think they'd ever do that, despite that technically being possible because they did that with stuff like the GVT having a 4x headshot multiplier.

[austere dirge]

BF1 i got fucktons of stars for all those medic marksman rifles, this game i rarely touch DMRs lol

[eager spire]

Medic SLR's in BF1 are the only thing i really like about that game, i think.

[tiny python]

DMRs are actually pretty decent in this game

[austere dirge]

the SVK used to be super fucked up before they nerfed it

[eager spire]

yeah but it's a shame that the game isn't decent.

[arctic grove]

@austere dirge do you know when next wipe is?

[austere dirge]

yeah they are definitely among the most satisfying category

[tiny python]

Dm7 is good, SVK is as expected, BSV is cracked

[arctic grove]

Isn’t it rumored around like Christmas again or some shit

[tiny python]

Facts

[austere dirge]

im guessing around christmas. that usually when it happens in the latter half of the year

[arctic grove]

wooo Christmas wipe

It better not fucking me on the 24th or 25th tho LOL

be*

[austere dirge]

and with it will be those christmas starter pack handouts lol

[eager spire]

Yeah. It actually feels like you're decent at the game when you do well with those.

[austere dirge]

i think it usually is like right before new years

[arctic grove]

bro those Christmas packs

it’s amazing

[next onyx]

M5a3 do be feeling really nice.

[tiny python]

Using the new laser sight on it?

[next onyx]

Might see if I can crack the 9000 kill mark with it today.

No.

[austere dirge]

looking forward to santa's generosity

[arctic grove]

I Hope they give out free weapon cases for Christmas

[arctic grove]

I miss santa

[next onyx]

I'm using the LWG light grip, Micro t1, shortened barrel with standard extended.

[austere dirge]

the PEEWWW sound of a headshot will always be in my head

[arctic grove]

U got this

[next onyx]

I'm 8600 in.

[austere dirge]

definitely not happening but we might get ammo boxes lol

[eager spire]

yeah. I do wish BF1 was a better game.

[next onyx]

When I have this thing to 10K I'm gonna try the AK24.

[arctic grove]

I mean

[tiny python]

Same as me roughly.
LWG grip + short barrel + extended mag and fusion holo reflex

[arctic grove]

I’ll take ammo boxes

[austere dirge]

fuse the atmosphere of BF1 with the makes of BF4 and you have a bombshell right there

[arctic grove]

If they give ammo boxes and it’s more than 1 I’m selling 1 for ez rupee

[austere dirge]

oh certainly. im not complaining either way

[eager spire]

BF1 with BFV movement, removed suppression, and a reduction in the amount of SMG's Assault has access to would've been great for it.

[austere dirge]

yeah the loss of BFV movement is really one of the bigger tragedies of this series thus far

i'd be down for removal of accuracy suppression as long as we still get a cool non-invasive visual when we're shot at lol

for muh immersionz

[eager spire]

Like maybe Assault should've been given less SMG's but to make up for that, give 'em the higher rate of fire SLR's.

like the Autoloading 8

[arctic grove]

Why not 2042 movement

[austere dirge]

😭

[austere dirge]

yeah thats agreeable

[eager spire]

...To be honest isn't 2042 movement just BFV movement but faster?

[austere dirge]

BFV feels much much more fluid

i will say BFV's slide was kinda over the top

but everything else was really good

[arctic grove]

I love 2042 sliding

[eager spire]

I mean, BFV's slide was better than BF1's.

because it was actually useful

[arctic grove]

Slide jumping is my favorite

[austere dirge]

i prefer BF1 slide lol it had its very mild uses. and that what i want in a game ideally. i dont like it when the game makes you constantly slide on your ass

[austere dirge]

same

[austere dirge]

rather i dont prefer it

[proven fractal]

For bf2042, the slide is actually fastest when you jump before you slide, holding crouch just as you land, then jumping again immediately after

[eager spire]

I don't like a useless slide. I like having that option for more aggressive pushes, which is what BF1 heavily lacked.

[austere dirge]

also 2042 lacks a lot of the finer elements of movement that BFV had. like crouch sprinting, prone on your back, etc

[austere dirge]

BF1 slide came through for me all the time when i was reviving. i think aggressive pushes in BF1 were all about setup with equipment/teammates or finding a cheeky flank and the perfect grenade throw

[eager spire]

eh

[austere dirge]

EH!

:(

[austere dirge]

i noticed that as well. i do that every now and then just to be quirky

[visual gazelle]

Yes. When DICE said 2042's movement would be built upon V's, that was a straight up lie.

[eager spire]

I don't really like that aggressive pushes are dependent on your teammates, because generally my team is useless.

[austere dirge]

BF1 did a good job at encouraging clusters of movement in operations but i understand your overall sentiment. generally you cant rely on your team consistently

[austere dirge]

agreed

[eager spire]

I did not play Operations that much because i played on community servers, and community servers that run Operations are a bit jank

because they're not intended to do that

[austere dirge]

yeah i remember you saying that before. i didnt touch the other modes and when i did, the issues you mention were prevalent

i think operations in BF1 was lightning in a bottle in terms of the consistency and the sense of cohesion in your team. but like all things it was variable and honestly it could've been a happy accident from the designers because ive yet to see anything like it since

[eager spire]

Likely was.

[austere dirge]

the maps were designed in such a way that encouraged consistent "frontlines" so you always knew where to find fights and you knew where to watch for flanks. the team that had more map awareness always won, thats something that became really clear to me over time. that technically applies to pretty much every shooter but i think it had extra weight in BF1 for better or for worse

thats all i gotta say about dat... =w=

[eager spire]

Yeah, fair enough.

I think if DICE hadn't gone as tryhard on immersion as they did on BF1, and didn't nerf sliding twice, as well as fixed the issues with gas grenades and lighting through windows, BF1 would've been a much better game, rather than something people look at in hindsight and be like "that looked neat"

[arctic grove]

Guys

I need your opinion on a bf youtuber

Danny

[austere dirge]

youre out of luck i dont watch ppl play games that i own

[arctic grove]

No like

[next onyx]

Why are you asking about Danny.

[eager spire]

Danny, he likes picking fights on Twitter, I think he's funny.

But i don't watch him.

[austere dirge]

yeah i think it had a bit of a identity crisis in the end

[arctic grove]

Cuz I'm arguing with someone

If he's annoying or not

[eager spire]

someone being annoying is a very subjective thing.

I can entirely see why someone would think Danny is annoying.

I think he's funny.

[austere dirge]

i mostly see him providing info on reddit so i dont have any reason to find him annoying

[eager spire]

It's either that or picking fights on Twitter.

[austere dirge]

i try not to dive into twitter threads for more than 3 seconds for my own health lol

[eager spire]

I generally see single posts from the guy, usually screenshots.

[austere dirge]

ill give his account a quick scan rn

he seems chill lol

[eager spire]

I mean yeah he can be but i've also seen him dunking on a lot of people in replies.

[austere dirge]

yeah i remain neutral/indifferent

[arctic grove]

That's rather strange

Mans on internet to argue

[ivory rampart]

is freezing fixed now?

I havent froze in an hour

[eager spire]

i mean hey if i had a following and people gave a shit about what i said, I'd use that opportunity to dunk on dumbass things people say.

[eager spire]

i don't think so, nothing's changed. you might be getting lucky.

[ivory rampart]

hmm I guess, too bad

[austere dirge]

i understand the enjoyment of antagonizing unruly strangers

[arctic grove]

Damn still going at it Silver?

[eager spire]

👍

[arctic grove]

Back prone is rather interesting in the case that it definitely enabled more camping, it’s questionable how it would do in 2042 again

[arctic grove]

I really don’t think it’s sliding is that bad, it works just fine for me to run around instead

But I do want to ask what the sliding was like before said patches, any videos I can look for to see?

[eager spire]

yeah running is preferable to BF1's slide, but here's the thing with that, sprinting being literally the only way to move any faster than walking is a problem when it comes to peaking an angle. ADS peaking isn't a good idea cause it's slow, sprinting around the corner isn't a good idea because you can't react to someone who is holding the angle, and the person holding the angle is likely expecting people to sprint around the corner, and that's basically your options for doing that.

[arctic grove]

I suppose those are just general cons though, and not a fundamental problem per se

[eager spire]

as for videos of what the sliding was like pre-nerf, I'm sure Nickel has videos from that time, his first BF1 upload was a year after the game came out.

[arctic grove]

Not enough in my opinion to warrant it spoiling BF1s gameplay

At least that’s how I see them anyways

[eager spire]

What spoils it for me is that they nerfed it twice. They nerfed it once, made it so you could only slide quickly once, and if you tried more than that, you got slowed down. That was a fine change.

But then DICE nerfed it again into what it is now.

Frankly i find this to be an absolutely unnecessary change that rendered the only unique movement the game had basically useless.

[bitter skiff]

nerf THIS!

[arctic grove]

Yeah BF1s movement is pretty simplistic to be honest

[eager spire]

yeah and that was a problem, especially coming from BF4, which had far more complex and faster movement.

[arctic grove]

I mean BF4 doesn’t have any type of slide at all

I think the “meta” there is to bunnyhop around

[eager spire]

technically it does, if you jump and then land while pressing no movement keys, you do a slide on the ground when you land.

[arctic grove]

Ah, console player here so I’ve never personally experienced such a thing. Maybe it’s possible still but yeah

[eager spire]

https://youtu.be/juIYOv6juaI

Here's BF1 circa October 2017 btw

slide here looks unnerfed, look around 4:54

because he's playing recon here for most of it

[eager spire]

You being a console player does make a lot of sense, BF1's movement is largely made for controllers, hence why it's so simplistic.

[bitter skiff]

WPM?

[eager spire]

around 120 on a good day why

[arctic grove]

I’ve always been a console player if you’re maybe inferring something with that comment

[silk surge]

I love how Jackfrags videos talking about each season gets more views than the season trailers. EA really lucked out having Jack around.

[eager spire]

I was just saying, BF1's movement is largely made with controllers in mind. So you liking it isn't a surprise.

[arctic grove]

But yeah I can definitely see that slide is a lot faster, although at the end of the day I still understand why they made that decision, WW1 as a theme is pretty old school and grounded after all

[bitter skiff]

LMAO XOXO

[arctic grove]

BF movement is never necessarily something I have issues with until I have to face the situation with 2042

[silk surge]

The fact that there's a Battlefield 2042 content creator that is more popular than Battlefield 2042 is pretty fun.

[arctic grove]

If everyone’s on the same playing ground then it’s easier to compete, but when you mix controllers with KBM it tilts over to the PC community if console is excluded from using KBM

[eager spire]

Jack is a variety creator who happens to be sponsored by EA so he talks about 2042

[arctic grove]

Jacks video titles have clearly been to make money off the larger portion of the BF community with things like “Is BF2042 FINALLY good?!”

[eager spire]

yeah cause he knows the reception of the game

[arctic grove]

Yeah, it’s smart so I’ve just been laughing every time I see them suggested to me

[silk surge]

Pretty sure he denied having a long-term sponsorship with EA, he has been approached by them about it. Some specific videos of his are sponsored by EA, but Jack himself isn't.

[eager spire]

I mean he is a part of Game Changers isn't he?

[arctic grove]

But yeah, actually I also like 4 and Vs movement since it’s still fair seeing as those games aren’t cross platform, 2042 is the only outlier right now

[eager spire]

well yeah, 2042's crossplay has been the source of a lot of it's problems i think

[arctic grove]

2042s movement is pretty fast and you can get a lot of leverage off certain jump slides so it’s pretty fun to mess around with, just can’t do as much

[silk surge]

Didn't they rename it to EA Friends or something like that? Not sure what the requirements are set on content creators in that network.

[eager spire]

Last i heard it was still called Game Changers, and i still consider anyone a part of that to be basically sponsored by EA

[arctic grove]

Once and if they add proper KBM support my concern would then shift to more movement mechanics like perhaps leaning and climbing, thats about it though

[lucid goblet]

We're " EA Creator Network" now

[eager spire]

cause i've seen people get taken off for talking bad about an EA game, i saw it happen with Anthem.

[silk surge]

Oh yeah, that was the name 😁 I saw on your Twitter bio that you're part of it. What's the purpose of that network?

[eager spire]

i'm sure it's not a coincidence that the more critical BF players i follow are not and have never been a part of that network.

[arctic grove]

We do a little worshipping

[lucid goblet]

It's pretty much replaced the GameChanger program, incorporates a wide variety of content creators and not just YT's

[silk surge]

Are there any guidelines on what kind of content you're allowed to upload or is it just a network of people that EA trusts enough to give early access on content etc?

[lucid goblet]

https://creatornetwork.ea.com/opportunities-rewards

[silk surge]

Ah, it sounds like my assessment was somewhat accurate. Thanks for linking.

[lucid goblet]

No problem!

[pastel loom]

do you know when will this game's default price get lowered?

[eager spire]

i mean they still charge $40 for Hardline.

So

[pastel loom]

standard game?

[eager spire]

nah i think the version on Steam has Premium

but it's Hardline on PC

[pastel loom]

yes same here with the premium edition

like other bfs

[silk surge]

Apparentely CoD GHOST Collector's Edition still goes for $100 in the Playstation Store. It's crazy how some obsolete online games are still priced as if they were new.

[eager spire]

yeah, it's ridiculous.

I only bought Hardline cause they were selling it for $20 around the time it came out on Steam.

I think that would've been a good price to leave it at.

[silk surge]

I got Hardline again through EA PLAY.

[pastel loom]

that one last month became 40$

[silk surge]

My old PS4 disc of Hardline disappeared.

[eager spire]

I don't do subscription stuff, i'll just buy games i want

[silk surge]

Still overpriced for a cod game that released alongside BF4.

[eager spire]

But yeah BF Hardline is dead as fuck on PC and the fact that it's $40 contributes to that i think

because who the fuck would spend $40 on Hardline?

[pastel loom]

some sort of bug in the saudi store specifically
made hardline's premium 18$
and so the discount made it 4.50$ and bought it

[eager spire]

literally scammed, i love it

[silk surge]

I was able to find 2 full servers on PS5, but everyone in those servers are the same people who never left. Pretty bad experience to go up against people who have mained Hardline for 7 years.

[eager spire]

Hardline is not a hard game to learn, especially if you've played BF4 for a while.

because it's basically the same game.

[silk surge]

I've barely touched BF4 since 2015ish. The game feels so outdated on console. Flickering textures, fever dream lighting...

[pastel loom]

too bad there's no local servers in either games
so no 5 bars

[pastel loom]

i heard the ps4 version is 900p and not 1080p
makes sense for a game so buggy at launch

[eager spire]

Yeah, BF4 is a big oof on console. which is a shame, the game is great on PC.

[silk surge]

Yeah, and anti aliasing is disabled.

[pastel loom]

bf3 on console had it as an option

[silk surge]

So the textures are flickering consistently.

[eager spire]

😔

[silk surge]

Yeah but BF3 on console was locked at 30 fps.

[pastel loom]

typical

[eager spire]

😔

i mean BF3 hasn't aged well in general

the UI is made for 720p

If you run 1080p or heaven forbid 4k, the UI is FUCKING TINY

And you can't adjust it at all

[pastel loom]

weird
1080p is really essential for the blurry textures

[silk surge]

Jack recently played it on 1440p, the game looks amazing for a 2011 game, but as you said, the UI was really small.

[limpid pond]

Dude I lobe when games play out for a long time

[eager spire]

yeah cause it's made for 720p and they didn't even bother trying to scale it for higher resolutions

[limpid pond]

Just dropped 75 with the mp9

Even though it sucks it was fun

[eager spire]

because apparently DICE just thought 720p was the pinnacle of PC resolutions

[limpid pond]

Mp9 go brrrrrr

[eager spire]

MP9 does indeed go brr

[limpid pond]

A he gun

[eager spire]

yeah, and compare that to BF4's HUD

[next onyx]

Decked a dude in the head with the mp412 without second thought I love it.

[eager spire]

night and day

[limpid pond]

What a lameo

Haven't used it yet

[next onyx]

The mp412 unironically the best side arm in the game.

[limpid pond]

So far a few portal guns have been kinda trash

[pastel loom]

weird
even ps3/xbox360 were able to upscale 1080p

[next onyx]

Provided you can hit your shots.

[limpid pond]

What about the m44

[next onyx]

If you miss one shot you kill as slow as the g57.

M44 is shit.

Even if you hit your shots it has too low of an RPM.

[silk surge]

The mod that upscales the game and removes color grading unironically makes BF4 look like a modern FPS game. It's crazy.

[tame cobalt]

Orbital 2 seems amazing

Haven't played it yet

Between manifest and orbital 2, I get the impression that battlefield players love fighting over hill objectives

in cq

[silk surge]

I have a Doctor's appointment at 3pm, and I feel like I can't do anything for the next 4 hours. I hate this. It would be a great time to finish the weeklies, but I have this feeling in my head that I don't have the time.

[tame cobalt]

[eager spire]

I mean it looks like a modern FPS game anyway compared to BF3.

[silk surge]

I meant more like, compared to 2042 even.

Tbf, it's a bit unfair to compare a modded game and a base game, but still.

[eager spire]

Yeah.

I used to run reshade on BF4 to make visibility a bit better but lately i haven't bothered because i'm lazy and can't be fucked to set all that up again

plus i can't even play the game properly right now anyway

[silk surge]

Like, Skyrim released 1 month after BF3, and you could make that game look photorealistic with mods.

[next onyx]

Had some dude spawn behind me.

How the fuck do these spawns pass testing.

They're literally fucking dogshit.

[eager spire]

indie company

[next onyx]

No just workers not being given the fucking time to complete this game.

They had something. Unfortunately certain parties had to fuck it up.

[eager spire]

indie company workers not being given the time to complete the game

[next onyx]

They aren't indie.

[gleaming oracle]

Portal guns underpowered compared to AOW weapons which is a shame as I love the M16 but it gets beat by almost every other AR in a fire fight

[naive quiver]

What the hell going on with this game on pc , just keep freezing and crashes

[cedar coral]

Has everyone had a micro patch?

Around 800kb

[eager spire]

Apparently they're just novelty weapons, not actually meant to be good

[eager spire]

you're not alone, nobody knows

[gleaming oracle]

Honestly there are shite! Need to make them more use able

[eager spire]

I know but that's apparently the rationale here.

I don't agree with it.

[gleaming oracle]

If they can't compete with AOW weapons no point in adding them

[ancient peak]

The gol is the best sniper rn

M16 and M60 slap

Ak-74u needs some help

ACW-R is adequate, yes there are better options including the M16

[gleaming oracle]

Compared to Sfar AK and M5 they are wank

[ancient peak]

Because the SFAR and M5 are overturned to hell and back.

[gleaming oracle]

Should add 2042 attachments and ammo types to portal weapons

[tame cobalt]

I don't understand why they released a trailer for m16 when it's been a vault weapon for like, 2 months now?

Just to leak the new tank

And why a trailer for just m16 out of all the vault weapons