battlefield-2042

[toxic wigeon]

Wonder what other classes will be

[tired wolf]

hows Orbital now?

[toxic wigeon]

Cause they said only recon in the post

[primal marten]

FIIXXXXXX SERVERSSSSSS

[ancient peak]

SMGs for assault probably

[tacit sphinx]

proficiency?

[frosty mural]

as an assault your profecincey will be to reload faster

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[dire quest]

To be fair there's only 24 weapons rn. If class restricted each class would get what? 6 guns? Lol

[toxic wigeon]

Classes have boosts on certain weapons

Like recon

[radiant prism]

Yeah, classes are gonna get perks when using certain weapons

[toxic wigeon]

Can hold breath longer

With snipers

[tacit sphinx]

ohh neat

[ancient peak]

You can use all weapons just some classes use weapons better than others

[toxic wigeon]

But they only talked about recon

I think

Unless I missed other classes

[radiant prism]

Probably because its still WIP

[pine roost]

Need to watch that dev log actually

[primal marten]

Game crashed again fix servers

Fix

[tacit sphinx]

your client crashing is nothing to do with servers lol

[ancient peak]

Hoping to see some vehicle rework in season 3 as well. Separating the vehicles between light and heavy armor. Give jets their own slot etc

[stiff pollen]

wait wtf why do 3/4 classes get claymores

wtf this game has been SOOOO good without ap mines

[primal marten]

well since last update it started crashing

[radiant prism]

I think if you clear your cache it might help?

[dire quest]

Hopefully claymores aren't as op as black ops 1

[radiant prism]

I thought thats what I heard

[primal marten]

how to do that?

[radiant prism]

I don't know off the top of my head, but I know its in the files somewhere. Do a bit of research, you should find what I'm talking about?

[frosty mural]

yeah, it's easier to give an example with recon and holding breath longer with the scopes

Perhaps the below:
Assault hopefully will be faster reloads with assault rifles
Engineer will be tighter hipfire with SMGs
Support will be quicker movement with LMGs?

Wonder what the utility guns will be

[radiant prism]

@dapper river how do you clear the cache again? For @primal marten

[tacit sphinx]

the rex is cool

[pine roost]

I won’t lie I don’t think I’ve ever used the holding your breath feature

[dapper river]

go to your documents folder, go to the battlefield 2042 folder, delete the folder called "cache"

[toxic wigeon]

Maybe switch assault and engineer

Engineer quicker reload with lmg

Assault better movement with assault

Idk

[stiff pollen]

theyll figure it out

[toxic wigeon]

Quicker lmg reload for engineer makes more sense imo

Assault rifle reloads already fast

Either way though doesn’t matter

[near cape]

guys i need you... after update 2.2.0 the games being dumb...
when i play sometimes disk hit 100% and make frames drop and lag how fix this sh*t...

[tired wolf]

my game crashed loading up Orbital

[dire quest]

Potato pc

[tired wolf]

oh well. time for MW2 anyway

[stiff pollen]

delete cache in my documents folder for bf2042

[near cape]

dang... also freeze too

[tired wolf]

i know, im the one who was spreading that fix on the ea play boards lol

im too lazy, MW2 campaign is dropping any minute

[toxic wigeon]

Lol

Hmm campaign

Wonder if it’s good

[frosty mural]

LMG is for support class i believe no? since they revive like medics
SMG for Engi makes sense

[toxic wigeon]

I’ll wait for review

Maybe

I always viewed it other way around

[radiant prism]

Its gonna be all edgy like MW19

[near cape]

not actually potato RX6600 and R7 is enough

[radiant prism]

With none of the punch

[toxic wigeon]

Mw19 campaign was overrated imo

Cold wars was better

I thought

[lofty nymph]

bringing updates when mw2 is out 💀

[radiant prism]

Both are incredibly mid

[stiff pollen]

MW2 campaign is out

full game isnt

[dire quest]

I'm a fucking onion mason!

[radiant prism]

CW's campaign is so fuckin short too lmao

Literally like 2 hours

[lofty nymph]

short story > no story 💀

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[stiff pollen]

its even shorter if you skip the true ending missions

[toxic wigeon]

Mw isn’t as memorable though imo

Like shoot house and that stealth one

Is all I really remember

[arctic grove]

[stiff pollen]

i think faras brother gets a nuke or something idk

[radiant prism]

Lol

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah gas

Forgot she had a brother

Lol

[radiant prism]

Because shock value

[dire quest]

We all know it's only a matter of time before mw2 is filled with anime skins

[radiant prism]

Yup

I mean its already full of stupid shit IMO anyways

game seriously has an obsession with skull masks

Ruined ghost's design too

[stiff pollen]

thats just the vault edition

[radiant prism]

He just had a painted skull mask, why does he have a whole ass halloween store mask now

[stiff pollen]

they get their standard appearance if you dont buy it

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[toxic wigeon]

I hate the new mw masks

Like why is it actually a physical thing

I prefer mask with skull design

[dapper river]

well whaddya know, we were discussing classes and BF posts a feedback update on classes

[toxic wigeon]

They give every mw2 character a ghost mask too lol

[primal marten]

i cxleared the origin cache also but now it freeze way more often

[stiff pollen]

if you hate the designs now just wait

[toxic wigeon]

Though I assume that’s for Mexico

[stiff pollen]

season 2 comes theyll have anime

[toxic wigeon]

Yep

Lol

Collabs already leaked

💀

[primal marten]

anyway to get it back for origin? @dapper river ?

[solid imp]

I just... don't know about Support guys. To me it seems like Support gets hosed as they get a gadget which replicates the thing their Trait already gives them today. The other classes are getting tangibly beneficial gadgets as their Class Equipment.

[dapper river]

What do you mean? the cache folder? the game will make a new one when you launch it again

[primal marten]

yeah but i mean the cache from origin itself

cuz i removed both but now it freezes more often

even in menu

[dapper river]

Try repairing your game through origin then? other than that idk

[primal marten]

how?

i run 2042 through steam but ofc still in need of origin

[radiant prism]

Oh wait

Get off origin

Download the EA app

Idk why but it just doesn't run well off origin anymore

Use the EA app

[dapper river]

The thing is I think the steam version requires origin

can't use the EA app instead

[radiant prism]

Ohh

Well, try using the EA app instead

[stiff pollen]

yea

[radiant prism]

Download it through there

[stiff pollen]

it requires origin

[radiant prism]

Thats probably the problem

[stiff pollen]

it installs a lite version of it

[radiant prism]

My honest recommendation is just to use the EA app

[stiff pollen]

you cant if you own it on steam

required to open it via steam

[radiant prism]

Thats weird

[rocky kraken]

Guys

Is orbital good

[lilac dust]

Permission to say Orbital is fucking stellar now (even though it was already good before)

[toxic wigeon]

Idk

[stiff pollen]

wow the aks is slow

[toxic wigeon]

Orbital was good before

[solid imp]

Haven't done a lot yet but so far yes

[toxic wigeon]

Tbh was never my fav

I always liked renewal

Idk why

[primal marten]

so how to repair it through origin?

[toxic wigeon]

Was fun at the wall part jumping and capping middle objective

[solid imp]

It was good before but even better now, definitely good changes

[fading wharf]

Yea i had to install it on EA app again cuz of steam

[last cloud]

not really, EA Desktop was in Beta until recently if i recall, unless its still in beta?

[fossil trench]

I wish we could get some matte black skins

[lilac dust]

The tunnel area top and bottom is fantastic

[last cloud]

[toxic wigeon]

[radiant prism]

I want more plain skins

[primal marten]

so how to repair it through origin?

[radiant prism]

Google it

Its not difficult

[fossil trench]

Same!!!

Just a universal matte black please

[stiff pollen]

you mean shoot me black

matte black always gets me shot in games

same with matte white

[primal marten]

when i google it i only see the cleaning

[radiant prism]

https://help.ea.com/en/help/origin/origin/my-game-downloaded-through-origin-but-will-not-install/#:~:text=Try using Repair Game,Select Repair Game

[tiny imp]

did i really read it right? are they bringin back class system?

[toxic wigeon]

Kind of

More of gadget rework

[shy latch]

the reworked Orbital is fantastic, the problem is 128p, now I understand that are really too many

[toxic wigeon]

Specialists staying though with abilities

It’s what the specialist system should have been

[wanton magnet]

Every class is getting claymores except engineer 🤷🏼‍♂️

[primal marten]

will i lose progress or whatever

[stiff pollen]

class rework where specialists are split into classess with gadgets locked to em

[tiny imp]

ok

[radiant prism]

No, it just checks through the files and makes sure everything is alright

[primal marten]

ah

[radiant prism]

Sometimes files get corrupted or lost or whatever, just checks through that and fixes anything that fails to validate

Happens all the time, thats why the functionality exists

[tidal hornet]

how do i get better at flying jets? right now i suck, and playing a air only portal match i get like 1-2 kills

[stiff pollen]

you dont

they suck already\

[toxic wigeon]

Well tbh jets suck in this

So

[radiant prism]

shut

jets good

It takes practice

[primal marten]

i litteraly never use vehicles

[toxic wigeon]

Play single player conquest against bots

If you want to learn them in this game

[tidal hornet]

neither do i but the jet only gamemodes i find pretty fun and i just wish i could fly them better

[dapper river]

Lol at the class grenade choices, they really went "fuck it, everyone gets everything except for concussion, that goes to assault instead of EMP"

[weak fossil]

the servers are empty what happened , I was having a great time last 2 days

[tidal hornet]

being unable to customize jet controls doesnt help

[stiff pollen]

wdym

[tidal hornet]

i play on console

[stiff pollen]

ohhhhhhh

[tidal hornet]

console has no control customization for vehicles or at least jets

[stiff pollen]

well controller is still better than kbam for jets

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[tidal hornet]

i believe that

[toxic wigeon]

My issue with vehicles though is when I use my elite 2 controller

I zoom in and it flickers

[tidal hornet]

just wish i could change them so i dont rely on both joysticks as much like having A to shoot and RT for accelleration

[stiff pollen]

kbam we have to bind spacebar to yaw up just to have a decent time with jets

[solid imp]

lol everytime I can steal the other team's condor and break my wrist as soon as I put it in full flight

[toxic wigeon]

So I have to change elite setting to lower trigger

Might be a controller issue though

I have ads issues in other games

Just noticed it’s bad with planes and vehicles in this game

[stiff pollen]

i have helis and jets where yaw up and down is bound to spacebar and ctrl

[solid imp]

that's a good idea

[stiff pollen]

but i can still yaw em up and down if i want with mouse

[solid imp]

that's when I break my wrist 😄 😄

[stiff pollen]

ive had it that way since bf4

[solid imp]

never been a pilot really going any distance back

but I'm not passing up a chance to steal a condor /shrug

I just tend to chat the team asking who wants it instead

[radiant prism]

I only use controllers for flying

KBM jet flying is extremely tough IMO

[solid imp]

heli's are easy even with kbm

[radiant prism]

Its also just more intuitive, you can get much cleaner inputs

For vehicles

Just makes sense for me, one stick for speed control and yaw, the other for roll and pitch

[uncut bay]

weapon proficiency sounds interesting

[worthy elbow]

"Player removed from game"

"Player was ejected from game because easy anti-cheat policy is violated"

[opal tide]

that penetrant blue hud is stil fkn annoying

[worthy elbow]

The fuck

[opal tide]

idk why i even care about that

[toxic wigeon]

Ngl I like the ui for this game

Always have

Colors are nice

But portal should have different ui tbh

[dire quest]

Should hazard zone also have different ui?

[toxic wigeon]

No

[primal marten]

i repaired the game and its still crashing maybe restarting pc?

[toxic wigeon]

It’s modern

[dire quest]

Portal is simply another game mode same as hazard zone

[toxic wigeon]

Ik

I mean like 1942

[dapper river]

I disagree with the addition of claymores into AOW. Cancel it, cancel it, cancel it, CANCEL IT

[primal marten]

or should i download the game again?

[toxic wigeon]

Should have an older looking ui

Not a big issue imo

Just looks strange on ww2 maps and with ww2 weapons

[vague horizon]

when are we ever going to get an optimization update 😭

[uncut bay]

technically every update is an optimisation update

[arctic grove]

I like how Irish has the engineer symbol but is a support class

[uncut bay]

they're not just gonna get people to focus on optimisation and tell everyone else to sit around doing nothing

[worthy elbow]

I guess you can't do takedowns anymore or you get flagged shorturl.at/qyGWZ

[dry coral]

man i am going to mcfucking lose it. I can't boot up portal matches and every time i try to play a normal match it goes to black screen then i get booted to main menu

[arctic grove]

Mcfucking

[solid imp]

Yea I'm excited about this. I like that kits stay open for primaries but you get a perk for using the "expected" weapon category. It's a novel idea and I always like when DICE tries something new to see if it sticks

It would be a big bummer if primaries went back into being class locked

[uncut bay]

yeah, i heard that in cod vanguard some operators got bonuses for using certain weapons and it sounded like a really cool system. Interested to see how dice does it

i was thinking it'd be an xp boost but it seems to be much more substantial

[dire quest]

The thing that sucked in vanguard tho was each specialist was proficient in only one weapon lol

[slender isle]

Anyone found more than 2 radios on orbital and renewal?

[shell ermine]

COD WW2 launched with a pseudo class system that included weapon proficiency like what DICE is planning here

[uncut bay]

yeah that's kinda goofy

[shell ermine]

COD community screamed until the Division system was gutted to be standard COD crap

[toxic wigeon]

This is different though

Cod doesn’t have classes

[shell ermine]

Read what I wrote

[toxic wigeon]

I did

[tame cobalt]

"BuT Bf4 HaD iT"

[primal marten]

when i want to launch 2042 it says it cant synchronise with the cloud

[toxic wigeon]

Not sure your point though

Are you saying it’s a good choice or bad

[solid imp]

BF easter egg discord 😉
https://discord.com/channels/239788202745921536/906953048679665725

They've been working on it all day

[slender isle]

Mind sending me an inv? I cant join through the link

[solid imp]

dm'd

[tiny python]

Peoples opinions on the new leaked specialist cosmetics?

[toxic wigeon]

Look nice

[last cloud]

mines stuck on verifying >.>

[primal marten]

yeah now its running but crashing in loading screen of maps again

[ivory canopy]

Haven't yet tried the new weapons - they good?

[tiny python]

They look pretty good, but I'm still cautious on spending money on this game

[pine roost]

I saw lossy posting on Twitter about a class menu being showcased, where is that?

[toxic wigeon]

I’m not gonna spend on skins

I’ll only buy battle passes if I need

But I plan to max all of them

[solid imp]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community/battlefield-core-feedback-specialists-next-steps

[pine roost]

It wasn’t that one I don’t think, there was something else. I’ll have another look on Twitter and see if there’s a link buried somewhere

[toxic wigeon]

Like on map?

Or in deploy s erred?

Screen?

[pine roost]

Maybe it was just an old screenshot that’s been brought up again

[low timber]

Still don’t understand why Soflam and tracer dart are in the same class in that post.

[pine roost]

It had Crawford in it though so I don’t think that would make sense

[toxic wigeon]

I’m pretty sure they showed that in the article

If it’s what I think you are talking about

[pine roost]

Ah, I think I have it

Right, let’s give this a read

[tame cobalt]

wat

weapon proficiency in 2042 classes?

[low timber]

Oh? The Stranded BT first sector has new borders.

[dire quest]

Classes will have buffs for using the weapon their class specializes in

Ex: recon can hold breath longer with snipers

[grizzled blaze]

"drones are not made for surfing and you should know better" lmao

[tame cobalt]

[grizzled blaze]

holy fuck they fixed the revive slide thing

[still vault]

they did

nice little quality of life change

[arctic grove]

anyone know why when im loading into a server my game freezes

[grizzled blaze]

friendlies can no longer move thru dozer fuck yeah

annoying as fuck

[pine roost]

Ok so classes are coming along nicely

[shell ermine]

Yep

[pine roost]

Still unsure as to why the supports need a defib gadget when it’s animation based now

[sick marlin]

Has any1 experienced the game just straight up freezing when loading into a match? I need to ALT-F4 out to get rid of it.. is the game really that broken still?
Is it connected to DLSS or something?

[sick marlin]

Lol i am literally experiencing the exact same thing

[grizzled blaze]

oh damn they changed the name of the HEAT shell

nice

(its just HE now)

[arctic grove]

@sick marlin its pissing me off

[dire quest]

Defib is support class item, not gadget

[sick marlin]

Seems like it's DLSS.....

[last cloud]

ok I'm in - wish me luck for no crashes xD

[sick marlin]

Turning off DLSS did it for me atleast.

[pine roost]

Unless that just refers to the fact that they have the ability to revive and isn’t an actual gadget they are giving them

[rocky kraken]

wait

is there 24/7 orbital

[grizzled blaze]

i think it just means they revive faster

[dire quest]

Each class gets a class specific item

[arctic grove]

@sick marlin how do i do that

[still vault]

If you experience crashing or freezing this is a known issue. I would advice posting useful info about your system and settings in this thread https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Game-Freeze/m-p/11966319#M34022
perhaps even attach a dxdiag - https://help.ea.com/en/help/pc/how-to-gather-dxdiag-information/
or a msinfo file.

[sick marlin]

by going into settings and turning it off..?

[kindred condor]

Is there any way the game would let me join a good server

[arctic grove]

@sick marlin it is off lol

[kindred condor]

IM GETTING EMPTY ONES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[low timber]

Lol, my Anghel ammo gadget has a Laser

[pine roost]

I know that, I’m just wondering if it’s intending to return the ability to revive to a specific gadget or if it’s remaining as an animation based revive

[last cloud]

RIP same here =[ i tried..

[pine roost]

Where the defib class gadget isn’t physical but merely explains that they have the ability to revive

[arctic grove]

i just lower my graphics and its loading me in

[sick marlin]

hold up, i just noticed all my weapon progress has been reset (i've come back after 4 months) - did they do a rollback or something?

[low timber]

Having the option to carry a repair torch and a eod bot at the same time is a bit worthless

[dapper river]

Weird, since I updated my nvidia drivers to the latest version, the main issue I've been having is that my shadowplay won't work in 2042, had to roll back my drivers. I didn't downgrade my drivers until after I fixed my crashing by deleting the cache and repairing the game install though, so it can't be a driver issue. There is no correlation with game crashes and the latest nvidia drivers.

[still vault]

Nothing should have been reset. Sounds like a visual issue.

[sick marlin]

Seems visual; checking collection it's there; strange.

[lone void]

That happened to me when the game came out and was having "persistence data" issues

It's still tracking normally it just appears to be 0

[arctic grove]

i really beginning to hate this game and its sad

[dire quest]

Dice always breaks something every update

You get used to it

[tame cobalt]

[forest orbit]

Or just uninstall if 😂 kept giving errors so said good bye,they used to be decent but now….just mid

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-just-deleted-gif-22613011

[tame cobalt]

[quiet shell]

I like the class system changes they've detailed so far. Now we just need them to add the bots as basic playables

[dapper river]

Ok, I present a compromise to the season 3 gadget additions: if they MUST add claymores, then allow them to be destroyed by irish's APS

[quiet shell]

How would that work if they're both stationary gadgets

if you're close enough to a claymore for the APS to destroy it, then just shoot it

[arctic grove]

Another update on classes..

[dapper river]

ok smart gai, try destroying a claymore around a corner, out of view, and protected by a hostile shootdown sentinel

[rocky kraken]

cant get a fricking master of arms game

[quiet shell]

grenade

or just let the other guy go first

[rocky kraken]

i cant play the game

[dapper river]

hostile shootown sentinel

[rocky kraken]

no servers

[tame cobalt]

No

[arctic grove]

@rocky kraken

[dapper river]

if you deploy APS it instantly destroys any throwables in its radius, including C5, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant prism]

APS has never countered C5 for me

[tame cobalt]

Common APS L

[rocky kraken]

claymore isnt throwable

[dapper river]

she's trying her best ok

[tame cobalt]

Bring back explosive spam

[rocky kraken]

did they break matchmaking

[dapper river]

it is a hostile explosive device that rewards passive play, I doesn't belong in ANY battlefield, and 2042 is just that much better for not having it in AOW

But if they MUST add it, then have it be countered by irish

[tame cobalt]

W

[arctic grove]

are you sure you just aren’t having a major skill issue

[tame cobalt]

[tame cobalt]

No.

Just don't add it

[dapper river]

[tame cobalt]

APS already counters way too much shit

I don't like it

[dapper river]

Projectile Destroyed 5xp
Projectile Destroyed 5xp
Projectile Destroyed 5xp
Projectile Destroyed 5xp
Projectile Destroyed 5xp

[tame cobalt]

[slender isle]

Claymore is fun. you wanna run through a doorway all stupid like? go right ahead, but you will die

[quaint vector]

[tame cobalt]

Congratulations, you just described the opposite of fun

[slender isle]

Fun for me

[arctic grove]

[tame cobalt]

[dapper river]

Stranded Breakthrough be like

[frail sparrow]

the rework for oribital is the first one that impressed me. feels completely different

[still vault]

good times

[quiet shell]

Whats the chances that the "map reworks" are actually DICE just finishing the maps?

[quaint vector]

Projectile Destroyed text was stuck on your screen right..

[still vault]

Got that specialist leveled soooo fast 😄

[dapper river]

they were "finished", DICE thought players would be smart enough to find in-world vehicles or use the call-in system so they could get to the next obj, or hunker down and be a team player and defend what they already have

[quaint vector]

I remember doing Irish Tier 1 after BF2042 launch.... It was pain and now its easy...

[still vault]

Stranded Breakthrough is the map for it. That's for sure.

[quaint vector]

Yup

[tiny python]

I'd like to T1 all the specialists but I probably won't

[dapper river]

I'm never gonna T1 sundance, man

just too hard

[quaint vector]

I have them all on Tier 1 but I don't play with them a lot...

My mains are Sundance, Mackay and Paik

[chilly jacinth]

Vehicles will surely help defend completely flat ground

[tiny python]

I'll never T1 her

Dislike her

[arctic grove]

[tiny python]

I got Mackay and Rao T1. Only other one I might do is dozer

I'd like to do Lis but more likely to get assists than vehicles destroyed

[chilly jacinth]

I just got her T1

was easy

and actually fun

[low timber]

I’m still 283/400 on Lis

[unkempt coral]

Really hope DICE can give Rao a solid new role after this new class system implementation

[quaint vector]

Helis are 1 shot tho... Not Condor and Super Hind

[low timber]

And attack heli

[unkempt coral]

His anti-chopper role was the main way to discourage OP chopper players

[wide shore]

Can’t 1HK the stealth helis or the attack choppers

Only the Nightbird

[dapper river]

stealth helis can now be one-shot by lis missiles

[wide shore]

Oh?

About time

[quaint vector]

After some Updates, I'm able to get Stealth/Attack Helis with 1 shot

[dapper mulch]

What is update size battlefield 2042 on ps4?

[quaint vector]

4.4 Gb

[dapper mulch]

im getting 31gb

[dapper river]

about tree fiddy

[quaint vector]

OOF

[dapper mulch]

i canceled and deleted twice and it still showed 31gb

let me restart ps

[neon iris]

This update has messed the game up proper bad

Sound breaks, crashes, huge lag spikes (more like cliffs, since it doesn't go back to normal)

[quaint vector]

On PS5, it runs smoothly for me

[neon iris]

Pc for me

[quaint vector]

Mainly PC have issues

[neon iris]

I want to try the new content as it looks good but I can't play two have in a row

[rocky kraken]

i cant even load the game without crashing now

[arctic grove]

Series X has no issues

[neon iris]

I don't even get how they did this, this update barely had anything that wasn't content

[edgy oriole]

i cant survive another reinstall. hope problems skip me

[rocky kraken]

i havent gotten to play a single game

never had problems

[timid latch]

@zenith tangle Question: How to unlock ww2 or for that matter any specific era restrained assignment portal weapon when no experiences are available?

[dapper mulch]

There is a problem with scaling on battlefield also from there menu on ps4 when switching to small tv or big tv

[kindred condor]

I decided to play a bf3 only high ping server on portal
And
Ykw
I actually had fun

Reminded me a lot of bf3 honestly
Noshahr>>>>>>>>

[grand venture]

anyone have a screenshot they can share of the m5 white skin and how the ads looks for the custom holo?

[vivid nacelle]

The oponent, not so much

[tacit sphinx]

don’t have one to hand but it’s a very similar if not identical reticle

[grand venture]

thanks. just tryna do some market research before i use up all my saved points lol

im worried it will be like the red skin for the m5 where the 3x /1.5x creates a horrible viewport

[tacit sphinx]

i would say the actual view you get feels a bit different, slightly different shapes on the actual optic, i was just referring to the red dot in it

it’s not a huge difference, idk i don’t often use the 8r holo

[grand venture]

yep the shape is what im worried about. but thanks, appreciate the info

[thorn jasper]

2 crash in 2 game today after update ☹️

[neon iris]

I'll send it in a few min

[rocky kraken]

green dot sight?

green laser for p90 now

[tacit sphinx]

wait is it green on the p90?

[shell ermine]

I'm looking forward to these class changes but doesn't seem like it'll change how I play at all.

Being a MacKay/Scar/C5 main.

[rocky kraken]

yes, and it feels alot smoother now

[tacit sphinx]

yeah the laser sights themselves actually work properly now which is very welcome

[slate meadow]

look at pinned messages in this channel there is a link to a ea forum where you can submit your issue and share your dxdiag to help dice out in fixing the issue

[wheat pasture]

Crossplay 🤮

[tacit sphinx]

been using them to unlock the new ones on the m5 and the am40 today

[lilac dust]

Lmaooo someone just tried to knife me and they lunged away from me into the wall ... First time I've actually noticed someone trying to melee me 🤣

[tacit sphinx]

managed to time it almost perfectly so i got the laser and the respective vault weapon for each of them at the same time

ie i unlocked the acwr and the laser for the m5 within a few kills, likewise with the am40 lol

[ancient peak]

New laser?

[rocky kraken]

yea

people think its for upcoming lights out map

[lilac dust]

Wait actual new laser? Not just referring to the bug fix?

[rocky kraken]

yea, a laser for night

[tacit sphinx]

i mean

[ripe hedge]

Whatsup gamers, how's it hanging?

[lilac dust]

Is it available in game right now to use?

[tacit sphinx]

i think the description is more thematic to like in world rather than how we as the player actually use it

[queen violet]

The game has got alot better. Dont you think

[rocky kraken]

well

im hoping a night map 🙂

[tacit sphinx]

it’s just a new laser attachment that gives walking hipfire buffs and some recoil control

[violet meteor]

Rock and roll McDonald's

[lament plank]

Wow I sure love trying to get orbital on MoA conquest and only getting renewal over and over and over and over again 🙃

[tacit sphinx]

the mp412 rex is fun

it does feel like it loses accuracy a bit quickly though

[lilac dust]

I just go back to tactical conquest when it's not orbital and go back and forth lmao

[brittle forge]

They don’t have a 24/7 playlist for just the new map?

[lament plank]

Nope

[tacit sphinx]

but up close as a backup gun it’s very nice

[rocky kraken]

nope

[brittle forge]

Damn thought they would at least for just this week…

Kinda a dice moment

[rocky kraken]

in the dev corner he said there wwas

[lament plank]

1/3 chance to get it, still can’t get it after 10 resets of loading in. Classic.

[rocky kraken]

but its just master of arms

[slate meadow]

what do i play whilst bf2042 is broken 😩

[violet meteor]

Any other game

[slate meadow]

legit considering redownloading coldwar

[lament plank]

Of course can’t even get a normal MoA lobby to even load in. Almost like certain things weren’t thought out at all.

[violet meteor]

Diablo 3

[slate meadow]

i tried overwatch 2 but it just puts me to sleep

[low timber]

So, are the new lasers have a better hip fire while moving, was the old one nerfed to not have better hip fire while moving and only while stationary? Just like the grips.

[solar obsidian]

mouse issues still there 🙂

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[lilac dust]

I can only ever play it with a team. I never load it up if my friends ain't on.

[slate meadow]

just be greatful your game is working

[solar obsidian]

barely did, crashed 2 times in the span of an hour today

[slate meadow]

i have no friends !

[slate meadow]

lol welcome to the club

[tacit sphinx]

i would guess the LS1 has like a basic thing on both stationary and moving? and then the new ones have the recoil control as well?

[slate meadow]

ive had to stop playing because its messing me stats up

[solar obsidian]

i give zero fucks about stats

[tacit sphinx]

idk underbarrels havent been on sym for ages so can’t really compare

[solar obsidian]

meaningless

[low timber]

Only PF51, AM40 and Avancys has underbarrels in Sym.gg

[slate meadow]

with that logic so is everything in life as we all end up dead anyway

[tacit sphinx]

*cant compare the actual numbers

[lilac dust]

Nah Imma fly to the moon and jump in a cryopod

[low timber]

Cry’o’pod

[tacit sphinx]

oh do they? in that case you could check the am40 and avancys stats now with the laser and make a note because i doubt it’ll have been updated yet lol

[slate meadow]

i just want a reply from ea/dice admitting there is an issue and to know they are working on it

[keen karma]

they put orbital rework but u cant play nice

[tacit sphinx]

ngl i havent played orbital 2 yet because i’ve just been on tac conquest still lol

good for hipfire kills

[slate meadow]

all i want to play is rush xl ffs!

[lilac dust]

Isn't that still a featured mode?

[tacit sphinx]

rush xl always feels kinda mid to me

but that’s mostly because i haven’t played it with full lobbies

but idk 16v16 feels best personally

[slate meadow]

yeah but the game keeps crashing!!!

[rocky kraken]

i restarted a few times and it started to work

[slate meadow]

Until it stops again

[lament plank]

Sigh why is it to much to ask that the MoA playlist just simply keeps the same group of players together, and moves them to each of the 3 maps in a simple rotation?

[rocky kraken]

trueee

[quaint vector]

I'm back again

[placid echo]

Irish being a medic sounds nice

Crawford makes more sense as an engineer too

[arctic grove]

Question

If i make a British officer outfit in bf5, am i restricted to just the Mk VI revolcer for my weapon?

[royal swan]

More reason to main irish

I get to keep my ammo box

The whole proficiency mechanic was something I thought about before months ago and thought it would be cool if they had it

[keen karma]

I hate that it rains in orbital, all the visual quality is lost

[dapper river]

yeah crawford as support, what were they thinking?

his only use is he's the only specialist besides angel that can resupply your spawn beacon

[tiny python]

Bro why does the ACR have the same reload delay as the M16

[rocky kraken]

idk

[queen violet]

The game feels like it has less bots

I mean. Fake bots.. the game feels loads better

Its like the game has more players..lmao.

[royal swan]

Oh I wonder why

[queen violet]

More players

Plonker

[arctic grove]

I like the bots

[royal swan]

It's not like a big update just dropped

[silk surge]

Support class will have claymores. RIP ever walking out of an elevator ever again 🙃

[chilly jacinth]

so firing Lis rockets has a chance of crashing your game

thanks Dice

[queen violet]

Nah.. bf2042. Hd fake bots

[royal swan]

[arctic grove]

Battlerfield 3/4 moment

[rotund vortex]

assault doesnt get prox sensors? absolute bullshit

[royal swan]

💀

[rotund vortex]

when i assault an objective i dont want to hunt about for the dude sitting in a corner

[silk surge]

Making Irish support and Crawford engineer was a good decision. I have no idea why they made crawford a medic to begin with.

[queen violet]

Bc1 bc1. Bf vet. Bf2.3.4. 1

[rotund vortex]

also assault are just helicopter fodder now

[royal swan]

Man really prioritizes proxy sensor as assault loadout

[rotund vortex]

im not using cringe grenades

[dapper river]

yes

[silk surge]

Like, what were they thinking? "Lets make this dude with a mounted machine gun a medic"

[queen violet]

Been playing bf since you lot was in ya dads bag

[wanton magnet]

If they had the same amount of weapons and different classes of weapon for each class like bf3/4 then I wouldn’t mind the restrictions. Bf 1 and 5 felt way too limited.

[dapper river]

bad company 2 LMG medics sweat heavily

[rotund vortex]

idk why removing customisability is supposed to be good

stupid concept

[royal swan]

Let me guess, new player

[silk surge]

My usual one-liner is "Buddy I've been playing Battlefield since before you crawled out of the abortion bucket" when someone questions my Battlefield veteran status.

[rotund vortex]

new to battlefield, been playing 2042 since launch

[dapper river]

here we go, they kept classes open for so long that people became complacent, and now that they're caving to demands for classes to return, people are gonna pull the other way. there's no pleasing gamers

[royal swan]

How about new to the franchise

[rotund vortex]

i just said new to battlefield

[queen violet]

Its true though matey..

[silk surge]

Nah, it's just sundance/spawn beacon mains malding.

[royal swan]

Thought it was a sarcastic remark, yeah it's been restricted to classes every battlefield game and no one had a problem

[rotund vortex]

i didnt agree with all the bullshit people spewed at the start about classes > specialists

[night basin]

you are new after a year? even if you mean you are new to the franchise as a whole that is inacurrate

[dapper river]

not hard to balance the game when there are only like 3 guns

[night basin]

you are playing BF2042

you are still totally unrelated to Battlefield

[rotund vortex]

cool

[royal swan]

I love the restrictions, gives directions to players who are genuinely stupid and don't fucking help the team

[night basin]

I do not mind the specialists either

[solar tinsel]

welcome to Battlefield man

[dapper river]

That tactic will still be valid, someone on your squad is gonna have to sacrifice and play recon though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[night basin]

But it is definetely not like the other battlefields

[solar tinsel]

Sorry this was your first 😆 ha but hey at least its getting better

[queen violet]

I think. On bad company 2. My vet status was 12 bf games. Or something like.

[night basin]

if you wanna get a real battlefield feeling, just find some BF3/BC2 Style portal servers

[rotund vortex]

no mackay spawn beacon is garbage

[queen violet]

Bf used to have a status. How many games you played. That went. After bf3. I think

[night basin]

So far I only played 7 Battlefields

[solar tinsel]

Sounds about right, I think BF4 (or 3) had tags for each game you played too

wish they did that with the player cards

[night basin]

Play4Free, 3, 4, Hardline, 1, V and now 2042

[queen violet]

Yea. Around that time it stopped

[royal swan]

Play4free, bruuuuuuuh

[solar tinsel]

In the long-term, I think you'll grow to appreciate the role more relegated classs roles can have on the Battlefield

[solar tinsel]

haha "BF2 Jank Edition"

[night basin]

I am known to kinda have more kills with secondary weapons than with main ones

[rotund vortex]

no because there are some cool spots that mackay can place a spawn beacon and keep harassing an objective but now i cant

[silk surge]

This is a legitimately way better system than restricting weapons. I'm looking forward to this.

[royal swan]

Forgot there was waterdown battlefield versions that was completely ass and forgotten harder than hardline

[solar tinsel]

It was a good compromise I think

[queen violet]

Just on this break out. Dam. This is a shitty map

[rotund vortex]

gadget restriction is garbage

[queen violet]

I love it in the buildings. But the rest is. Shitty

[solar tinsel]

yeah, I mean ***that ***one in general I admit could go ether way. You COULD argue a spawn beacon is very assault in nature. I'd actually be fine if they replaced claymores with beacons on Assault

but in general, the restrictions are a good thing

[night basin]

My BF3 and 4 Top Weapons

[royal swan]

Never a problem had with previous battlefield games

[solar tinsel]

I could see an argument for beacons being eligible for Assault

[rotund vortex]

because it means that i have to play garbage specialists to use specific gadgets

[fiery shoal]

im switching to recon main JUST to keep beacon

beacon too good

[solar tinsel]

yeah thats the thing. Gadgets are very much indicators of roles

[royal swan]

Restricted equipment gives directions to stupid lone wolf players that don't do jack shit

[rotund vortex]

not air vehicles

[solar tinsel]

true, but that highlights the problem. Right now, ANYBODY can do ANYTHING, and that is at odds sometimes with the rock/paper/scissors BF has always had

[rotund vortex]

assault are literally banned from damaging air vehicles now

[royal swan]

Then play engineer

[night basin]

Back when I didn't own any battlefield and always played at my mate's house, I saw myself always as support class guy

but now I know my destiny is medic lol

[solar tinsel]

Because Assault is primarily meant to be anti-infantry (although you will still have Sundances grenades)

[night basin]

i even worked as a paramedic before

[fiery shoal]

but medic is support

[rotund vortex]

oh yes i hope my enjoyment of the game relies on random players on my team

[solar tinsel]

Battlefield is a team game (for the most part) after all

[royal swan]

Medic has disappeared to the subclass category

[night basin]

Not in The battlefields I played, Support was always Ammo guy with Big Gun

[rotund vortex]

teammates are always garbage

[night basin]

then in 1 they changed the whole class system

[fiery shoal]

oh tocha, isnt that only bfv? i thought it was always engineer otherwise

[queen violet]

Support. Lol. We got 12 genders in this bf

[solar tinsel]

If anything I hope you give the new system a chance and see what working together with your squad and team can do. You will find bad teammates, you'll find good ones too

[rotund vortex]

if i top frag as a console player not sitting in a heli thats an issue, and that often happens

[queen violet]

Keep it simple. 4. Classes. Thats all we need

[solar tinsel]

and to think folks bashed 2142 for "dumbing the class system down to 4" 😆

[rotund vortex]

Kills are a large factor in an FPS

[primal marten]

i reinstalled 2042 again after clearing my 2042 and origin cache files but it keeps freezing. Anyone can help me out?

[queen violet]

Its a shame. We got 12

• gbt

[royal swan]

Not the main factor

[queen violet]

😂

[solar tinsel]

sure it's a large factor, but Battlefield has others factors too. Objective play has almost always been a bigger factor in Battlefield

Objective + Team play

[rotund vortex]

i play objective obviously, cant get kills as an infantry without playing objective

[royal swan]

Bingo

[solar tinsel]

If every FPS was the same, well, why have Battlefield at all?

[royal swan]

Helping the team is as big as getting kills

[lament plank]

Did enough BT to unlock the ACW, now on probably my 6th conquest? And STILL NO ORBITAL like how did they not think to make at least a 48h event for just orbital on AOW???

[queen violet]

We need a new spec called. JOHN. Like back in the day. On war movies

[royal swan]

Even if you don't get kills at all you help the team get more kills

[solar tinsel]

Yup, there's like a magical triangle between Objective + Combat + Teamplay

[night basin]

No, back then Medic was a shared class with assault, you had the option to either carry medical equipment or more assault gadgets like a Grenade Launcher

Support was the guy with the ammo, LMG and C4

(this is from battlefield 3)

[queen violet]

White dude.. called john ….

Massive gun..

[royal swan]

Want to care about kills, play recon or assault

[rotund vortex]

either way, if im getting top 3 in score on my team and im not sitting in a vehicle the entire game and im a console player then it goes to show how shit teammates can be

[primal marten]

i reinstalled 2042 again after clearing my 2042 and origin cache files but it keeps freezing. Anyone can help me out?

[night basin]

Then in Battlefield 1, they removed the engineer class and seperated medic and assault into 2, because combat engineers weren't a thing until very recently IRL

[solar tinsel]

I mean, or how good the other team is. Why do folks always think it's a one way street haha

[queen violet]

I think the skins on this game are shocking ..lets the game down

[solar tinsel]

Like it or not (on current gen) you are ultimately only 1/128th of the factor of the game.

Obviously, you can make that slice matter....

[night basin]

you're just jealous because there are Crips skins but no Bloods Skins

[solar tinsel]

but it's large enough of a player count now where 1 player alone cannot necessarily win or lose the game

[rotund vortex]

not really, i can still lose after getting 40 kills and 12 caps

[solar tinsel]

thats what Im saying, 127 other players are playing the game too

you might of had a player on THEIR team matching or exceeding you!!

[rotund vortex]

some matches are unwinnable because garbage team

[solar tinsel]

yes, sometimes

it is a team game

[rotund vortex]

anyone who takes a MAV is automatically an idioty

worst choice ever

[night basin]

Paik and Falck Representing the LA Hoods🇨 🤙

[solar tinsel]

I know gamers want agency but holy crap, you don't control the destiny of all players in a match

[rotund vortex]

i should

then we would win

[solid imp]

For real, sometimes people assume they're entitled to a win because they did well. That's not how it works. Sometimes someone else is simply better

[solar tinsel]

other games would be better for you then

I dont mean that with disrespect either

[tame cobalt]

Remember when i suggested the deployable cover or APS be moved to support class... No we get both I'm down with it

[solar tinsel]

but thats just not Battlefield

and if you more enjoy the "I carry the team" mentality, smaller tactical FPS games are better for that

[rotund vortex]

idk if they removed typing for console or if i cant find it but i need it

[royal swan]

Please tell me you're joking

[rotund vortex]

tactical fps games are boring

[solar tinsel]

It's there, but what are you going to do, go be toxic to your team?

[primal marten]

i reinstalled 2042 again after clearing my 2042 and origin cache files but it keeps freezing. Anyone can help me out?

[rotund vortex]

assuming you mean siege

[royal swan]

That's the most bizarre and stupidest thing I ever heard today

[solar tinsel]

Any FPS with a sub 32 player count probably

[rotund vortex]

no, ask players to support zones, like get a heli to counter their heli on skyscrapers

[solar tinsel]

sure I mean, it does have chat. Press R2 while in the menu

[rotund vortex]

ok ill try

[hushed epoch]

A guy had 7 more kills than me yet I was still higher on the leaderboard than them, by repairing, reviving, disabling airplanes etc..

[solar tinsel]

I know you're new to Battlefield and I respect that but nobody here will likely agree with your general philosophy

[rotund vortex]

assuming it works on xbox

[primal marten]

i reinstalled 2042 again after clearing my 2042 and origin cache files but it keeps freezing. Anyone can help me out?

[arctic grove]

Crips better tbh

[arctic grove]

\

[royal swan]

I seen mav win games easily, they are a big threat if not taken care of, a smart man can win an objective with an mav

[rotund vortex]

MAV literally dies to a mackay with c5

[night basin]

well yes those are crips colors

[primal marten]

thnx man trying to be serious here but ok

[solar tinsel]

yeah MAV is a specialty tool that really can swing matches, but yes, can also easily be wasted

[royal swan]

So do everything

[rotund vortex]

not a heli

a heli isnt some massive box thats super slow and clumsy

[royal swan]

Believe so when they can get on

[tidal hornet]

did the med crate on a drone get fixed or implented as a feature like c5

[placid echo]

Yeah everything dies to c5. You can grapple onto a heli

[royal swan]

Got taken out once that way

[silk surge]

With the class system coming relatively soon, they need to buff the CG. They stated themselves that the Carl Gustaf launcher was watered down specifically because everyone could run around with it due to the specialist system. Since it will no longer be the case, they might as well buff the reload speed and velocity.

[rotund vortex]

a heli can get from one side of the map to the other in like 20 seconds and spawn a bunch of people there

a lot of maps the MAV cant support some objectives

[royal swan]

Sneaky fuckers got on the top and destroyed it

[solar tinsel]

See, I really don't think they need to. I'd argue ground vehicles were mad vulnerable with everyone having rockets

I WOULD support a velocity increase though, especially if Javelins are coming

[next onyx]

Irish as a medic will be huge jesus christ.

[arctic grove]

I'm never serious

[rotund vortex]

they need to buff dozer at some point

[solar tinsel]

It's big!

[arctic grove]

But his symbol is an engineer

[calm bison]

Cringe

[royal swan]

With jets getting their own category, helis are no longer a big threat anymore

[solar tinsel]

Hes being changed to Support

(tentatively)

[arctic grove]

Thats what she said

[calm bison]

That depends

Are the jets still gonna be shit

[silk surge]

Which brings me to my next point of contention... They need to buff the ground vehicles. Give them APS systems, nerf the C5.

[arctic grove]

meh they'll still be a pretty big threat

[next onyx]

I'm aware he's an engineer but his playstyle will improve now.

[rotund vortex]

worst take ever

[solar tinsel]

I hope they just take C5 away from Recon. This limits ground vehicle destruction to 2 classes primarily.

[next onyx]

C5 needs a nerf.

It is overbearing.

[silk surge]

Care to elaborate?

[rotund vortex]

C5 is fine

[solar tinsel]

And then, take Claymores aware from Assault cause, we don't need THREE classes with Claymores haha

[royal swan]

Well that's if there isn't another jet, camping heli spawn as a jet is easy

[rotund vortex]

if u let someone walk up to u and place something on ur vehicle thats on u

[solar tinsel]

when is that happening by the way?

[arctic grove]

and 1v1ing jets in a heli is also easy

[royal swan]

Idk

[royal swan]

Nah not really

[arctic grove]

yes really LOL

[royal swan]

Not with those last rockets nah

The ones where you can fire without the lockon

[arctic grove]

skill issue to think its hard

[silk surge]

C5 is a bit too strong tbh. The throw distance is BC2 level of insane, the lack of input delay between throws makes it almost impossible for vehicles to react.

[tidal hornet]

depends if the jet is coming at the heli or the jet went by the heli

[royal swan]

I say hard because I never died to a heli

[tidal hornet]

it can just launch rockets and 30mm it down but if it already flew by the heli the heli can easily kill it

[royal swan]

In a jet

[tame cobalt]

Medic with deployable cover is a W

[arctic grove]

I've killed alot of jets in helis

its fun

[royal swan]

They are all shit, every heli as a jet never has killed me

[rotund vortex]

idk if theres a way to extend throw distance, but it seems fine at like 5m

[solar tinsel]

I just wish helis did a bit more damage with their canons to light choppers (Stealth and Littlebirds) since their hitboxes are so damn small anyway

[hushed epoch]

Only reason I play bf is because it's the only game that can make me somewhat patriotic for France even though i hate France

[royal swan]

Only jets had

[tidal hornet]

i like that they are making irish medic but im gonna miss tate as a medic, i like being able to dish out large damage and also revive people when i have to

feels like someone who is on the front line doing everything

[silk surge]

I think BFV nailed it with sticky dynamite. It was strong, but not OP.

[solar tinsel]

it makes sense at the end of the day though IMO, since Crawford is very prone to hanging back and being defensive stationary

[rotund vortex]

didnt play BFV, no clue

[tidal hornet]

it does make sense, i just hope they make his new trait actually something good

[rotund vortex]

C5 is good imo idk about throw distance i would be fine with a shorter distance but a damage nerf would be stupid

[solar tinsel]

My fav idea so far is just faster repair tool: very defensive and stationary like his playstyle

with one caveat: it doesn't apply when you are a passenger

[silk surge]

What never made sense was that the guy with a mounted machine gun also ended up being a medic. Those two things doesn't add up at all.

[royal swan]

Stealth, paper helis
Attack helis, shoot from longer ranges
Nightbird, paper helis
Transport, fat targets

[rotund vortex]

why i would never play crawford

[tidal hornet]

i would think that would be perfect for irish, like exiting a tank and putting down aps's and fixing the tank

i saw a clip of that on reddit and it made me think of that

[hushed epoch]

I'm a BF4/1 fan, and whenever I play bfv I just get a stroke, it feels more like call of duty and why tf is there a Japanese guy in a German team???

[next onyx]

Keisuke my beloved.

[solar tinsel]

true, but, not so much anymore with him being Support :). I actually think Support makes sense for Irish, it definitely is going to be a huge meta change

[silk surge]

BFV is a masterpiece. Stop it with this heresy.

[solar tinsel]

but hey more power to em cause Irish is awesome

[tidal hornet]

yeah being able to put down walls and revive is going to be crazy

[solar tinsel]

we'll likely see Irish a LOT more

[calm bison]

This is what we call hyperbole

[hushed epoch]

I just gotta get used to it ig

[rotund vortex]

its so stupid how dozer gets the worst passive and active ability

[solar tinsel]

and I hope that encourages some degree of team clustering, which typically leads to good teamplay

[tidal hornet]

boris passive worse in my opinion

[solar tinsel]

seconded

[rotund vortex]

idk who boris is

[tidal hornet]

such a short range to buff the turret

[tidal hornet]

fair enough

[rotund vortex]

boris is out of my ever want to play

[hushed epoch]

Idk some russian guy

[silk surge]

Best part about BFV is that Gunter is in it. Gunter is love.

[ancient peak]

lol not even a minute into game 1 and a freeze

Alrighty what's the fix again?

[arctic grove]

[solar tinsel]

I think I once suggested a Boris passive idea that the turret bonus gets applied IF the turret is placed within a friendly objective zone

[placid echo]

Dozer's passive isn't that bad, it does allow him to survive an explosive crossbow bolt

[rotund vortex]

at least boris has a decent active ability tho

[solar tinsel]

because at least then you can not stick right next to it

[solid imp]

dozer's passive is amazing.. get out in front of your team with shield up and absorb that expl damage

very helpful

[rotund vortex]

because those are really common

[hushed epoch]

I wanted to play bf2042 but it doesn't want to download. The Progress bar is even bugged

[rotund vortex]

and get no reward xp

[solar tinsel]

Dozier is very good in certain modes too: Rush, breakthrough

[tidal hornet]

but his passive is so useless. the range you have to stay in and nobody wants to sit next to a turret, he needs something else

[solid imp]

k... teamplay tho?

[silk surge]

Sounds about right.

[rotund vortex]

no incentive to play dozer tho

[solid imp]

teamplay is incentive

[solar tinsel]

that I agree with, they should include taking explosive damage or something like objectives capped for his progression

a lot of the progressions are kinda wonky IMO

[arctic grove]

teamplay?? whats that

[rotund vortex]

teamplay with no reward is boring

[solar tinsel]

Jets dont progress with kills or assists.....

[tidal hornet]

the reward is winning the match

[hushed epoch]

Strange thing is the game downloaded just fine but the new update doesn't want to work

[solid imp]

I mean... people who complain that 64 people on a team aren't coordinated also can't simultaneously complain that they don't like a teamplay mechanic just because no XP

[silk surge]

Dozer is really good for arming and defusing MCOMs.

[rotund vortex]

they should make dozer actually good

[solar tinsel]

yup yup

[solid imp]

dozer is great at covering revives

[royal swan]

Dozer, with autoshotty, and smoke launcher is my go to with rush

[rotund vortex]

make it so his shield exists when u have it out

[solar tinsel]

I don't think Dozier is BAD per se, and getting permanent Med Pen will be helpful

[tidal hornet]

i think dozer should just get a second passive

[rotund vortex]

bad compared to everyone else

[tidal hornet]

idk what it would be but it would probably make him decent

[royal swan]

Dozer should get armor

[solid imp]

dozer > boris 🙂 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solar tinsel]

Hes one of the more balanced ones IMO, I can just agree with better progression

[rotund vortex]

they should give dozer the same passive as mackay

[tacit sphinx]

the shield is fun sometimes, explosive resistance (i believe 50%? might be more like 30) is very nice

[silk surge]

Is it just me or has it become way harder to kill Dozer through leg shots? Feels like the hitbox is way smaller now.

[royal swan]

There should be armor crate

[ancient peak]

Oi what's the fix for the freezing in the new update? Something about deleting the cache?

[solar tinsel]

That makes no sense lol

[solid imp]

YES I suggested this very thing in the spec feedback loop

[tidal hornet]

or as @royal swan said irish passive

of getting armor

that would make sense

[rotund vortex]

why? he would be less powerful than mackay

[solid imp]

everyone is less powerful than mackay

[solar tinsel]

Not necessarily, now there are two versions of MacKay, one with a shield and one with a grapple

a bit too much overlap

[rotund vortex]

if his active is bad for the general game mode then his passive needs to cover that

[silk surge]

Sundance: Allow me to introduce myself

[solid imp]

literally no one else has a movement buff

[rotund vortex]

mackay passive is better than most other peoples active abilities imo

[next onyx]

Weapon proficiencies what.

[silk surge]

I think that's a great addition.

[next onyx]

Oh nah I think it's great.

It's just kinda cool.

[solar tinsel]

I think it appeases both crowds as much as possible

[solid imp]

Excited to see what perks they give the other 3 classes outside Recon, which they detailed a bit

[silk surge]

Allow people to use any weapon, but your class will be proficient in certain types of weapons over others.

[placid echo]

Me when I land on a Condor as a Sundance for the third time in a match

[next onyx]

Mackays passive is a crutch and I hate it. I love Mackay but that needs to be a gun perk.

[tidal hornet]

hope they change the sniper proficiency though because i dont think i have ever held breath i dont think i know the button either

[solid imp]

gun perk?

[rotund vortex]

you can hold breath?

[next onyx]

Gun perk yes.

[solar tinsel]

Support LMG I assume? WHat do you think? Tighter spread over time? Hell does suppression come back? haha

[arctic grove]

holding breath is in the game?

[silk surge]

Yeah, they should make it an attachment or something. Similar to BFV.

[solar tinsel]

yeah ha for snipers at least (or long scopes)

[still vault]

If you don't use it why do you care? 😄

[solid imp]

are there other gun perks in the game? Not sure wym

[rotund vortex]

it should be a thing for SMGs and maybe ARs

[arctic grove]

interesting

I dont use long scopes so i wouldn't know

[next onyx]

What I'm saying is that faster ADS speed should be a gun perk.

There aren't gun perks but it's theoretical.

[silk surge]

I always forget to hold my breath while sniping, maybe that's why I suck so much at it? Idk.

[tidal hornet]

because i dont use it and i would hope that it would be something more beneficial to more people and 2 people just responded not even knowing it was in the game

[merry wren]

Lmao imagine having to rework every core map in ur game xD

[solar tinsel]

It could be a sensible Assault weapon trait with ARs perhaps

[next onyx]

God I couldn't imagine the pain Alex is going through trying to balance these proficiencies out.

[solar tinsel]

There's definitely gonna be an OP meta that slips through

how could it not with all the variables

[rotund vortex]

or anything but LMGs and snipers

[still vault]

It's a dangerous road to design games around some players not knowing a mechanic

[next onyx]

Encourage the use of guns but God damn.

[royal swan]

Speaking of Alex i want a word about AKS description fast fire rate when it has a fire rate of 600

[rotund vortex]

i would say shotguns and SMGs are more assault than ARs

[next onyx]

Games should better explain a mechanic if they dare to build it around it.

Assault rifles have always been an assault weapon.

Now what I want to know is who benefits from SMG's/PDW's.

[rotund vortex]

SMGs are more aggressive tho

[low timber]

With the new lasers I have no idea if the old one was nerfed to just work when stationary as the new o es clearly says while moving

[next onyx]

Yeah I feel the changes a bit.

[royal swan]

Add carbines

[next onyx]

Smgs were always all kit.

[arctic grove]

was hipfire nerfed?

[royal swan]

We need a carbine section

[low timber]

And a laser not affecting while stationary sounds so illogical

[silk jasper]

is the update out yet

[royal swan]

Yeah

[tidal hornet]

which update

[slate meadow]

Is the game fixed yet

[silk jasper]

what week are we in the challenge?

[solar tinsel]

thats a loaded question

[slate meadow]

Lol I mean for the recent crashes and black screens

[tidal hornet]

8 if your talking about weekly battle pass challenges

[solar tinsel]

oh gotcha ha

[silk jasper]

thx still on week 6 havent been playing much recently

[slate meadow]

I think personally it's a memory leak somewhere

[next onyx]

I want that white outfit for lis but to be honest they're bringing out a burned version of the same outfit.

[craggy onyx]

Who needs these stuff, just use milsim stuff

[hushed epoch]

Can't download the update for a game I payed for but the gameplay, it's certainly better than release but not finished

[arctic grove]

milsim bad

[silk surge]

Milsim stuff is lame, I want to be a liquidator.

[craggy onyx]

rather that than exotic fortnite skins

I main Mackay and his jtf2 kit

[silk jasper]

i just wanna play... but my uni work has forced me to work till midnight and by then i am tired out

[tidal hornet]

liquid

[rotund vortex]

does anyone actually main concussion grenades?

[arctic grove]

ultimate edition skin looks better imo

[rotund vortex]

they seem just so pointless to me

[solar tinsel]

people main NADES?

[tidal hornet]

ive been hit by 2 concussion grenades ever i think

[silk surge]

I also main Mackay, and I used to wear the full cowboy skin unironically.

[tidal hornet]

and ive never hit anyone with one

[rotund vortex]

concussions just seem like bad EMPs

EMP actually affects vehicles at least

concussion you dont know if they are blind or the edge of their screen is a bit white

[next onyx]

@silk surge seen this?

[arctic grove]

that set looks better than the ultimate edition skin for him

[tame cobalt]

Yeah the throw rate is the biggest issue IMO

[rotund vortex]

Throw rate?

Vehicles have ample time to respond

[ripe hedge]

yeah the % of matches your jungler keeps feeding and throws the match

[rotund vortex]

TTK for most vehicles weapons is <2s

[next onyx]

Uh.

[rotund vortex]

Idk what a jungler is tbh

So I’m not too sure what that means

[fiery shoal]

ttk is technically and generally waaay under 2 seconds

[rotund vortex]

i was being generous

[tame cobalt]

not really
and let's not forget assault and recon are NOT anti-vehicle classes.

[rotund vortex]

why do assault get c5 then

[tame cobalt]

Cuz fun

[solar tinsel]

Im fine with Assault getting C5, I wish Recon wouldnt get it though

[rotund vortex]

i dont play recon so idc

[solar tinsel]

cause C5 CAN be anti-infantry too / cover clearing

[fiery shoal]

extremely, the k30 max ttk is less than .5 seconds

[arctic grove]

but It can be if you focus vehicles with c5

[rotund vortex]

i prefer just attacking and not doing passive stuff

[tame cobalt]

I'm fine with both getting it, it just needs some form of nerf. Particularly in its anti-vehicle effectiveness

[arctic grove]

L take

[rotund vortex]

K30 isnt really that good imo, not got the range

[solar tinsel]

yeah we have different takes on that then ha, fair enough

[rotund vortex]

the whole point is anti vehicle

[arctic grove]

P90 better

[next onyx]

Assault getting c5 will be nice.

[rotund vortex]

nobody picks C5 to combat infantry

[rotund vortex]

havent unlocked

[solar tinsel]

not completely true, ive seen it happen

[rotund vortex]

like 1% of the time

[fiery shoal]

flashbacks to all the times ive been c5 around a corner

[rotund vortex]

people use it for dozer i guess

[tame cobalt]

The whole point of ENGINEER is anti-vehicle
And if u think the whole point of c5 is anti-vehicle... Hoo boy. C5 is an incredible anti-infantry gadget.

[rotund vortex]

i just trust that i have the better aim and TTK when it comes to infantry

[arctic grove]

I only really use c5 to rack easy MAV kills

[rotund vortex]

MAV and tanks are just asking for C5 to be placed on them

[arctic grove]

yet again I only run c5 on angel

Cuz I need my ammo

[solar tinsel]

C5 is very much a versitile explosive gadget, so it makes sense IMO to give multiple classes it - I just 2 would be better than 3 personally

[rotund vortex]

C5 mackay and just grapple onto them

[tame cobalt]

What? Bruh c5 is fantastic against infantry