battlefield-2042

[copper spindle]

I got reading week at uni for 3 days

[royal swan]

Wait do Non Americans don't get fall break

[fervent grotto]

Nerddddddd

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[granite island]

I get fall break

[mental cave]

we get thanksgiving break

[granite island]

It last 1 week

[copper spindle]

awww plz 😘

[mental cave]

wait

[royal swan]

I said non Americans

[mental cave]

non americans

i am american

[fervent grotto]

Like Monday-Friday?

[royal swan]

Foreigners

[mental cave]

tf is fall break

???

[fervent grotto]

Oh shit I gotta go to bed

[granite island]

Ye

[hexed mango]

i get fall break (thanksgiving)

[copper spindle]

sounds canadian

[mental cave]

do you literally mean thanksgiving break

[royal swan]

Fall break is Thanksgiving break

[mental cave]

who tf calls it fall break

[royal swan]

Normal people call it fall break

[mental cave]

what state are you from

[fervent grotto]

Peace out cuties

[mental cave]

oregon?

[granite island]

Tennessee

[hexed mango]

in germany, i know from experience that they just have a lot of smaller breaks (like a few days) throughout the year, and dont get 3 months off for summer, but rather like 2 weeks

[mental cave]

🤣

nah i grew up it being called thanksgiving break

[hexed mango]

same

[mental cave]

never heard fall break before

[hexed mango]

never heard fall break either

[royal swan]

Fall break is easier to say

[mental cave]

must be a new thing cus of PC culture and the whole genocide of native americans thing

[hexed mango]

[copper spindle]

[royal swan]

I have been calling it fall break when I became aware of fall break

Which was years ago

[sweet barn]

why are 2042 players so entitled, everyone on subreddit whining about event skins being paid
its literally the same thing in every other game yet I don't see people complaining because it's expected

[mental cave]

cus they don’t work

[granite island]

I never knew people called it thanksgiving break

Since Thanksgiving is in November

[mental cave]

wait wait wait

you get a whole

sperate

break

[royal swan]

I thought they were going to complain about how utter dog shit the game mode is

[mental cave]

in fall

[granite island]

Yeah

[mental cave]

that isnt during thanksgiving

[tardy tree]

same here

fall break

[mental cave]

ok

we’re not talking about the same thing then

[royal swan]

Fall break and thanksgiving break is the same for me. I call it fall break as that's what I been hearing from the people around me

[hexed mango]

sounds like a reddit moment™️

i actually like the tac cq

[mental cave]

in california i guarantee nobody has heard of fall break

[royal swan]

Always bitching about the wrong thing

[hexed mango]

i attest

[royal swan]

Have you gotten a match where you or the enemy camps

[hexed mango]

not really... i got a few caspers in the last round tho

[royal swan]

Then you haven't fully experienced the pain

[hexed mango]

ive also only played discarded back to back

got arica now

[royal swan]

Stranded is the only good one

[hexed mango]

yeah i want stranded

[next onyx]

From what I've observed. It's more round little is free for the players.

[royal swan]

You would love stranded scq

[copper spindle]

stranded is so good

[next onyx]

Breakaway isn't too bad either.

[copper spindle]

its so-so

[royal swan]

Well there is this flat part

[next onyx]

Yeah it's nothing special.

[royal swan]

Renewal can be removed please

To open

[next onyx]

Renewal is FUN.

Grind fest.

[hexed mango]

i kinda want to play cyberpunk but at the same time i want to play tac cq to do the ribbons

[royal swan]

Grind Fest is that border map

[next onyx]

You still have 13 days to do it.

[mental cave]

i forgot i was planning to play the cyberpunk update

[granite island]

If only squid g chaos was conquest

Would be nice

[hexed mango]

yes but i have longer to play cbp

[royal swan]

CP?

[hexed mango]

its fun stuff

[hexed mango]

ok ok chill

[royal swan]

🚔

[mental cave]

y’all think if i wait till the very last minute to buy the dynamic duo bundle that they might put a discount on it? 🤔

[copper spindle]

mama im criminal

[next onyx]

Honestly who knows.

[royal swan]

So easy to see the skins in combat

[next onyx]

The skins are pretty cool.

[royal swan]

Pay to lose tbh

[next onyx]

They're clean.

[royal swan]

But easy to see

[copper spindle]

Its somewhat possible but I hardly believe that will come

[next onyx]

It's not like you can't see the person normally.

[royal swan]

The darker skins or skins with a better color palette are harder to notice

[mental cave]

i really only notice someones skin until theyre in my kill cam

[royal swan]

But the white skins are an eye sore on most maps

[next onyx]

Except breakaway!

[mental cave]

i actually think the white skins are kinda an advantage

[royal swan]

Really not

[copper spindle]

can you elaborate?

[royal swan]

Breakaway is the only map these skins can perform

[mental cave]

the movement of white should be harder to track on a screen shouldnt it?

[hexed mango]

yes but they do look mighty sexy

[royal swan]

Any other map then you are a easy target

[mental cave]

especially if brightness is up

[copper spindle]

That depends on the players eye sight

their FOV and such

[royal swan]

Especially dozer

With those face holes

Skull like

Sad that I can be seen across the map

[royal swan]

I prefer the am40

[next onyx]

Oh great I'm coming down with the bug that's being passed around here.

[royal swan]

It's goated

Am40 on scq is straight goated

[next onyx]

Not a bad shot!

Everyone be abusing the Am40 I'm just trying to get 10K with the m5.

[hexed mango]

you being sarcastic or real

[strange crag]

The AM40 has practical use!

[copper spindle]

the AM40 got everyone on a chokehold

[mental cave]

CQC ammo on the BSV-M is good too

[next onyx]

I wouldn't be sarcastic. Just need to get your movement and reaction time down.

[hexed mango]

true

that uniform coeff seems to be helping ngl... feels smoother

renewal time

[mental cave]

i been juking people on 2042 the same way i juke people in warzone

[royal swan]

The vault lmg is great now, don't prefer it on scq

[hexed mango]

m60 good now?

wait whats scq, small cq?

[royal swan]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

i saw the buff but havent used it

[royal swan]

Squad conquest

[hexed mango]

as in tac cq?

[strange crag]

I swear i have never seem more people bunny hopping and slide cancelling in 2042 than while playing tactical conquest. Did all the warzoners get tired of cod wanted to check out 2042 or something?

[mental cave]

nah

didnt even know the movement translated so well to 2042 until yesterday when i started trying it lol

[hexed mango]

2042 movement >>

[royal swan]

When next update

[strange crag]

Slide cancelling isn’t as good as in 2042 as warzone, but for 2042 it can trip up your enemies

[hexed mango]

The second major game update for Season 2 includes the Orbital map rework, alongside new Vault Weapons. We’ll follow-up with full details closer to its release.

i think it should be later this month

[royal swan]

Zzzzzzz, I want it now

[strange crag]

“We have extended season 2 until March 2023.”

[hexed mango]

now im in a match with campers on my team

[strange crag]

I just got my 100 ribbons. Think that’s enough 2042 for me today

[hexed mango]

100 in one day? dam

[strange crag]

Ah so nothing out of the normal

[white geyser]

The outfits we saw in the trailer like this one, if only they made a new mode that relates from their new outfits

[hexed mango]

i just think im gonna get bored after 2 more rounds, and then play cb for 5 hours

[hexed mango]

?

[strange crag]

Im a grinder. Pause

[hexed mango]

i mean i used to be for this game, but after more than a thousand hours of doing so, im bored.

game doesnt move as fast as me, there's too little to do within each new piece of content

im already basically done with the bp. and i didnt even do this or last weeks challenges

[next onyx]

LOL turns out there are persistent lobbies but the end of round screens takes so long to process.

For this mode.

[hexed mango]

i got 15 ribbons, im done

[hexed mango]

its a portal mode technically

thats just how it works

its featured in portal to back that up

[strange crag]

Oh yeah im pretty sure i don’t even have 100 hours though lmao. I grind, but i space it out. I like to play other games too.

[hexed mango]

ive been recently playing less and less and less 2042

im happy with cyberpunk and ow2 for now

and bonelabs

still waiting on jedi survivor tho

[copper spindle]

Hows Overwatch 2?

[hexed mango]

fun

its just one big update for ow tho

[strange crag]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-among-us-star-wars-anakin-youngling-gif-20248539

[hexed mango]

but, i cant sad much bad about it, its fun

[strange crag]

Ayo why my gif like that

[hexed mango]

!!regular

[tender pendant]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[hexed mango]

^ thats why

[strange crag]

I’m a filthy casual it seems

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-among-us-star-wars-anakin-youngling-gif-20248539

[white geyser]

Or you can boost it, last time before I got the role I had to use boosting

[strange crag]

You turned her against me!

[hexed mango]

i also just queued to merge my xbox account to my pc account for ow2, so i can expand my skins ;)

[hexed mango]

youve done that yourself

[strange crag]

I can’t believe Star Wars copied Obi Wan from fortnite

Oh apparently i do have 100 hours in 2042. Neat

[mental cave]

i need the KOTOR remaster to happen

[strange crag]

You wanna see bastilla cheeks in 4k don’t you

[hexed mango]

gonna be like diablo 2 all over again

[hexed mango]

i mean..............

im not opposed

[hexed mango]

omg i cant believe star wars has better call saul from breaking bad!

[strange crag]

Your pfp matches that perfectly

[hexed mango]

and joe is from fortnite

[hexed mango]

[strange crag]

Who’s fortnite?

[hexed mango]

ok, back to my cyberpunk grind for monowire

[mental cave]

in 60fps minimum

[hexed mango]

joe

[strange crag]

Oh you mean Candice’s brother

[hexed mango]

yes, best friends with deez

[mental cave]

isnt candice from sugondese?

[hexed mango]

no, sigma

[strange crag]

I thought she was in Paris

[mental cave]

no that was jay-z and kanye

[strange crag]

I’d love to see the ea staff’s reaction when it gets degenerate in here

[mental cave]

they left awhile ago

[strange crag]

but also

[hexed mango]

gonna cheat cyberpunk to get more money

[mental cave]

just get gorilla arms and double the bet money at every boxing event

[white geyser]

After season 2 is done and they confirmed about season 3, they better work on what kind of new contents they can add for season 3

In the mean time I'll just play overwatch 2 and For Honor

[tame cobalt]

L

[tame cobalt]

bro they've been working on season 3 content since before launch

[white geyser]

If that was a joke, then I don't get it and I'm not even laughing

[tame cobalt]

The entire year 1 content of a game is already in various stages of development before a game even releases. The reason is because everything takes a long ass time to make, so every piece of content starts being worked on loooooong before it releases

This is standard game dev, nothing specific to dice

[tiny python]

Which nade launcher should be used on the M16, jump up or high explosive?

I heard the jump up is really good, but haven't used it yet

[hexed mango]

ended up deciding against it

[edgy oriole]

x2

[hexed mango]

its too fun to cheat
i cheated through my first playthrough, so im not doing that this time, im also doing a lot more quests, and its been 10x more fun

[white geyser]

I wouldn't be cheating on any multiplayer games unless you're playing it on PC, that's where it's filled with cheaters on PC games

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

BAHAHA.

There's this dude going 4-11 with the Avancys/

[tiny python]

[next onyx]

Gues the nerf hit a bit close too home.

[tiny python]

I haven't tried it since the nerf, heard it's still really good

[wide shore]

It feels the same to me

[hexed mango]

ok someone pick, should i use big stabby arms, a ranged wire (basically a damaging yoyo), an arm that can launch stuff, or strong arms

[tiny python]

Just slightly more recoil isn't it

[tame cobalt]

Lol, imagine it's some avancys abuser who doesn't know about the patch and has no idea why this is happening

[tame cobalt]

Smg

[wide shore]

If you’re doing the fight club stuff. Gorilla arms. Otherwise, mantis blades all the way

[next onyx]

Nah it's because I keep on bullying him.

Can't carry some teams some times.

[forest mica]

What stuff is good now, played a bit in season 1 but stopped for a while and just started playing again today

[next onyx]

Uh.

SCAR, m16, p90, Avancys, LCMG, etc.

[hexed mango]

i have the mission but idk if ill do it

[tiny python]

Usually how the mode goes

[wide shore]

M16 is great now

[hexed mango]

mantis blades interest me the most, those and monowire

[next onyx]

Time for stranded.

[tame cobalt]

Yoyo weapon sounds cool

[hexed mango]

i only have enough for one rn

[wide shore]

They’re all a breeze with the gorilla arms.

[hexed mango]

just hit cred level 20

[wide shore]

You get hella money for winning too

[hexed mango]

can you use mantis blades in the brawler?

or nah

[wide shore]

Nope. Just the gorilla arms

[hexed mango]

i finished the first one (twins) super easily

[tame cobalt]

u finna become a cyberpsycho

[hexed mango]

the second guy fucked me up tho

[tiny python]

[hexed mango]

so should i get gorilla purely for the mission or do mantis for overall

[tame cobalt]

yoyo

[hexed mango]

or monowire like ratchet really wants

[tame cobalt]

[wide shore]

Trust me. The gorilla arms. Save before every fight. Always go for the bonus cash. Then do all the fights. Then you can buy some mantis blades

[hexed mango]

sounds like a plan

[tame cobalt]

[hexed mango]

should i get mantis and then save for sandy

[tame cobalt]

sandy who

[wide shore]

Mono wire is cool but it’s better for stealth

[tame cobalt]

sandeez nutz

[hexed mango]

yeah ive just seen some really fucking epic gameplay with it, mantis looks more interesting tho

how do i switch to my hands easily

[tame cobalt]

dishonored best stealth game

[hexed mango]

here, ill just dm you

[worthy inlet]

Dishonored legit best game

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

m5 is literally perfect for this mode.

THe engagement ranges fit.

[worthy elbow]

second this^^

But still going crazy with my AK

[weary osprey]

Is the game decent now?

[tame cobalt]

bruh

been decent

but s3 will pop off

[tiny python]

M5A3, AK-24 and M16 for me work well with this mode

[weary osprey]

I’ve got it on x series but I want to use mouse and keyboard now after trying fps on pc

Controller’s r sht

[worthy elbow]

im gonna try the GOL tomorrow in the new gamemode

[next onyx]

Yeah the m16 would be a banger too.,

I'd use it but 10K m5a3.

[tame cobalt]

I don't have m60 yet cuz pkp is dog

are you meant to use it mounted? this game has the most unreliable mounting I've ever seen

so not gonna bother with that

[next onyx]

I mean. It's an alright gun.

Besides. You can get the m60 through Co op.

[worthy elbow]

these unlock challenges are so easy compared to the bf4 unlock challenges

[silk surge]

I just tried K30 and Avancys... and both of them feel just as strong as they did pre-nerf. The nerfs are not even noticable.

[worthy elbow]

used the avancys today for the challenge and I agree 100% with you

[next onyx]

The 4 HK range should be removed, Have some extra recoil and keep as a long range MG.

[tame cobalt]

Oof

[white geyser]

I'll start using the M16 again, but I'll use the M16 in my custom portal matchup so I can retrain because it's been how many days or weeks I haven't use the M16

[silk surge]

It sounded like they're planning to completely rework the LMGs soon. I hope so, they really feel like ARs with bigger mags right now. Their only weakness is a slightly slower ADS (still as fast as SFAR and other ARs with Grenade Launchers or higher zoom scopes)

[quiet shell]

So I think I have a theory on why asset count is such a large talking point with the current DICE team when it wasn't even a basic mention in past battlefield games.
The current DICE team has no idea how to handle assets in the Frostbite Engine in comparison too the past DICE team. Take for example the massive bridge on Battlefield V, that is described by DICE as their single largest asset ever made. Key word being single asset. That is one asset with destructible pieces and interactable objects. For comparison, the oil rig on Breakaway I garuntee you is made up of multiple assets.
Basically, the past DICE team knew how to take a bunch of assets and make it into one asset to save on the asset count. The current DICE team doesn't know how to do that and instead is overcomplicating it's asset count

[white geyser]

I wish they give us the actual grenade launcher, not the one that's attach to the rifles

[quiet shell]

Take those giant piles of containers on Manifest. I bet you those shipping containers are all individual assets when they should be a a single asset of multiple shipping containers

[next onyx]

Lol footsteps.

Oh yeah I think I know what you mean.

[worthy elbow]

dude for real

Hear people a mile away inside

[next onyx]

They stacked the containers on top of each other instead of making it a single box.

Funny part is that due to the way they were going I knew they were a dozer.

[silk surge]

Eh, the asset count explanation makes perfect sense tbh. It would explain why the bigger maps are severily struggling with open spaces. Frostbite has never really been used to make massive multiplayer maps aside from the Firestorm map (which tbf was a BR map but still had the same issues as maps like Breakaway and Hourglass).

The conclusion one should really draw from this is that the blueprint of BF2042 wasn't really compatible with their engine's functionalities and limitations, and that DICE were once again ill prepared.

[next onyx]

it shows in the optimisation.

Granted it has gotten better.

[silk surge]

BF4 had a similar issue with its levolution events. The engine wasn't really built to have falling scyscrapers and crashing battleships simulated in 64p multiplayer maps... Which evidently caused shitloads of issues at launch.

Also, adding to the Firestorm thing... That BR mode had like 60ish playercount specifically because Frostbite wasn't designed with BR modes in mind.

[quiet shell]

whoever works on the maps for 2042 and the next battlefield game take notes from this conversation! If it's big and looks like a bunch of assets, make it a single asset!

[next onyx]

I reckon they do really try to balance it out.

[quiet shell]

No reason to use like 12 asset slots making a single container pile when you could go back to the asset creation and make a single asset that looks like 12 containers stacked up

[next onyx]

But i have no idea how it actually works.

[quiet shell]

I've talked too a few developers including one that worked on the Frostbite Engine and he was actually the one that helped formulate the idea that current DICE doesn't know how to manage it's assets

[silk surge]

To put it into perspective the smallest BF2042 launch map (Kaleidoscope) is roughly 1.5x the size of Hamada in BFV... Which if I'm not mistaken was one of the biggest Battlefield maps ever made prior to 2042 coming out. If even the smallest map in the game was made that big, you could imagine that they were really gaming the asset limitation just to launch the maps.

Stranded is a strong sign that they're shying away from that approach.

[quiet shell]

The size of the maps absolutely played a role in it too

[silk surge]

An integral role

[quiet shell]

But theres the fact that the infantry focused sections of maps were still devoid of cover when DICE said that wouldnt be the case

The Plaza on Kaleidoscope for example was completely empty before the rework

The oil rig on Breakthrough is also really empty

[tame cobalt]

no one knows how to work with shitbite

[silk surge]

Right. The fact that they made the maps so big was a huge mistake from the start. You can't really have maps that are basically 10 Panzerstorms stacked together while simultaneusly maintaining a good balance between infantry and vehicle gameplay. When you look at old maps like El Alamein, Battle of the Bulge, Goldmud Rail, Sinai Desert, Panzerstorm etc. Those maps were pretty flat and empty, but they were that way specifically because they were designed as vehicle oriented maps. 2042 pre-rework launch maps doesn't really have that identity. They are all just big just for the sake of it.

[tame cobalt]

everyone who knew how to work with shitbite doesn't work at EA anymore

[quiet shell]

I like to think a lot of the problems in working with Frostbite was just having to work from home during covid

[tame cobalt]

panzerstorm fantastic combined arms map

altho the 4 gimme flags are too dead

[silk surge]

Well ok, maybe not just for the sake of it, they are that big to support 128 players.

[quiet shell]

Stranded and Exposure are pretty much proof that large maps arent needed if you want 128 players. If you look at how DICE has been downsizing maps in their reworks

[tame cobalt]

what's really interesting is that the old gen maps have mostly the same amount of assets... just because old gen doesn't have 128p, doesn't mean it didn't hold things back...

[silk surge]

If the 2042 launch maps were designed under the same framework as maps like Exposure and Stranded was, the maps would all be great and people wouldn't really mind 128p aside from the performance issues.

[tame cobalt]

but stranded 128 is horrible..

[silk surge]

True. PS4 and XB1 hardware is almost a decade old at this point. Being forced to make your game compatible with ancient devices will naturally be a set-back.

[quiet shell]

I do wonder if DICE will retain 128 players going forward and just work around the player count better

[tame cobalt]

exposure is indeed a great 128 map

[silk surge]

I honestly think that Stranded was specifically designed with 64p in mind, and that DICE were legitimately planning on dropping support for 128p all together starting at Season 2.

[tame cobalt]

it's definitely just a cq64 map

[silk surge]

They literally told content creators during season 1 playtest that they're completely abandoning 128p in Season 2, but apparentely they changed their minds.

[quiet shell]

Next they'll change their minds and give us a server browser

[tame cobalt]

i think they just said "fuck it, this is the meatgrinder map, meatgrinder fans will be happy if it's a huge mess in 128"

[silk surge]

It's only a matter of time. There's no way they'll double down on that forever. Especially since its the number 1 complaint about the game.

[tacit sphinx]

did they actually or was that like one person claiming they did

[tame cobalt]

bruhh

[tacit sphinx]

because i’ve never seen any reliable evidence of it

[quiet shell]

Yeah before the support ends I honestly expect DICE to roll back and give us atleast these 3 things
Server browser
All chat
Overhauled squad system

[tacit sphinx]

i mean

one is already confirmed

one would be good

[quiet shell]

In their season 2 developer stream the one guy basically said no server browser and then the devs watching the stream stopped talking in chat when people obviously got upset

[tacit sphinx]

all chat is just not needed imo, literally the only argument i see people talking about for it is “i want to spend my time trash talking the other team rather than playing”

[tame cobalt]

Exposure makes me think multi-level map design (AKA having underground sections) is a GREAT idea for 128 player maps, because increases the map space without increasing the horizontal size.

[tacit sphinx]

which is… not at all what i was talking about lol

[quiet shell]

Oh my B i didnt see your reply to him

[quiet shell]

Trash talking is fun though. Also it makes in-game stunts more gratifying when you see peoples reactions in chat.

[silk surge]

It's not entirely imperical, but according to TBAG, they were given this pamphlet during testing.

[tame cobalt]

huge L

So they later realized cq128 could work but then stranded was already designed for 64

oof moment

[quiet shell]

DICE probablt saw how positively received 128p exposure was and went "Well fuck guess we have to make good maps now."

[tame cobalt]

what a mess bruh

[next onyx]

What's that confirmed?

[tame cobalt]

after playing exposure i hope they stick with cq128 in the future and reach its potential

[next onyx]

I don't give two shits about 128 personally.

[quiet shell]

I wonder if DICE is still set for that 2023 launch for the next Battlefield game. Cause I personally fucking hope not.

[silk surge]

Bro same

[next onyx]

They should stick to what they're good with.

64p is dice's bread and butter.

[silk surge]

Nah, there's no way. 2024 or 2025 at the earliest.

[next onyx]

Playing god damn pacific storm made me realise "This is a decently sized map but it doesn't have wasted space"

[tame cobalt]

well, whatever they choose, they gotta commit to it

[silk surge]

My problem with Pacific Storm (at least on CQ) was how almost every objective was on its own seperate island.

[tame cobalt]

[silk surge]

Lots of swimming and knifing wooden boats into water.

[tame cobalt]

Poggers map

My problem is the G and F flags, they didn't really feel part of the map.. if that makes sense

[next onyx]

TRUE. Conquest at least.

In my experience uh.

[quiet shell]

You must've hated lost islands

[next onyx]

Just focus on D.

And then when that's capped. Expand.

Outpost pacific storm sucks I will agree.

[silk surge]

Tbh Outposts Pacific Storm was more fun because the map was scaled down and boat spawns were a lot more common.

In Conquest you had like 3-4 boat spawns in total, and if your team didn't control those objectives you were shit out of luck. Only other option for the Japanese side were amphibic tanks, while the US side had access to armored boats from their base spawn.

Parcel Storm was so much better tbh. You had things like minibirds and transport choppers taxiing you to each island, and there were billions of water scooter spawns on each island.

[white geyser]

I like the paracel storm map from BF4, if only they decide to add it in the portal and the rest of BF4 contents too

The megalodon easter egg in BF4 paracel storm map and unlocking the skin too.

[tame cobalt]

paracel storm might be good if attack boats are removed

[white geyser]

Nah that's stupid removing attack boats in paracel storm map, then how long will it take to swim to reach the objective?

[ripe hedge]

So what are the complains about this morning

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

Mostly around the event on how little there is for those not willing to pay money which I don't blame people for.

But uh.

[tame cobalt]

you don't need attack boats for travsering water, u can have non-attack boats and jetskis and aircraft

[next onyx]

The m5a3 on this mode feels amazing because the engagement ranges aren't horrible.

[silk surge]

Morning Alex 😁 My complaint for the day is that you guys didn't nerf Avancys and K30 enough. Both of them still more or less play like they did pre-nerf. The nerfs are barely noticeable.

[tame cobalt]

k30 is fine

[next onyx]

The k30 needs more recoil and its maximum damage readjusted.

[tame cobalt]

it's not like it was ridiculously OP or anything before this patch

already had numerous nerfs

[next onyx]

The Vector is a cool gun in real life but in games it's often cancer.

[silk surge]

Yeah I meant K30 compared to the latest nerf. The lower HS multiplier for SMGs puts it into a good spot.

[white geyser]

Still not enough

[next onyx]

Ehhh just nerf its specific multiplier instead of screwing over the other guns.

[tame cobalt]

But u said they didn't nerf it enough

[tame cobalt]

Cap

[ripe hedge]

u on PC right?

[silk surge]

PS5

[ripe hedge]

huh interesting

[next onyx]

We'll see what they'll do.

To further adjust them.

Personally I don't feel the change since I run tactical compensator on the k30.

It's easy enough to control anyways.

So the extra recoil doesn't hurt.

[winter swan]

what do you mean the K30 is useless every time i use it same with the mp9

[tame cobalt]

since when

[winter swan]

been like that for months

[tame cobalt]

actual skill issue

[white geyser]

People who don't know how to use the attack boats back in BF4 is noob because they never learn, that ain't a cap if you don't tell the truth

[silk surge]

K30 is still a monster at close range. Which is fair since that's the range you'd expect SMGs to excel at.

[winter swan]

not really when i have tried with controller on pc and on console

[tame cobalt]

nothing to do with learning them, boats shooting infantry just makes water maps less fun

[next onyx]

Yeah the vector should only be good at close range. Not beaming people at a distance.

[tame cobalt]

for infantry

[next onyx]

Actually I do have a question for Alex.

@ripe hedge In this game. What'd constitute for SMG close range?

Is it 10 or 20 metres?

[tame cobalt]

bro mp9 is a beast

or was, idk haven't tried it after nerf

[tame cobalt]

u need an extended or drum mag on the mp9 btw, it just feels crap with the tiny default mag

[winter swan]

mp9 has been trash for months since they first nerfed it, i only in the last month finally got it to T1

[next onyx]

Yeah they upped the default mag for the mp9.

[tame cobalt]

Oh nice

[next onyx]

I do like now it competes against the p90.

[ripe hedge]

more like 20-30... maps are very big 😄 But its not a "hard" line since it varies between weapon and "map average"

[next onyx]

Yeah that's fair.

It's why I asked you specifically since it varies from game to game.

[tame cobalt]

i wish the pkp reload wasn't like 2 minutes long

[white geyser]

I always use the P90 in the portal before they added in AOW

[winter swan]

could you bring back metro and locker so smg's can get decent use and so people can get them to T1 for badges

[next onyx]

The way they've done the p90.

It's so good.

It's such a fun gun.

[silk surge]

@ripe hedge Also, you guys should really nerf the extended barrel. It doesn't slow down rate of fire enough. Guns like SFAR and PP-29 essentially become laser beams with that barrel while still maintaining a very low TTK at close quarters. Not only does it increase your range, but also heavily reduces the recoil.

I use PP-29 with extended barrel all the time, and I consistently win fights at medium range against ARs while also winning against other SMGs users at close range with hipfire.

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

Wut?

Thing is.

I don't think the long barrel actually reduces the RPM on the pp29.

Or it doesn't feel like it.

And it's a pretty underwhelming attachment overall. It's really only useful on snipers and semis.

[white geyser]

P90 can carry 50 rounds same goes for PP29, but no other rifles can carry more 30 rounds

[chilly jacinth]

I win fights against ARs with the regular barrel

[next onyx]

You do know assault rifles can run extended and drums, breaker.

[chilly jacinth]

So i don't see your point

[silk surge]

I'm pretty sure the attachment description explicitly states that it reduces rate of fire. Not sure if that's actually the case ingame.

[next onyx]

It reduces the SCAR's RPM.

But I might give it a try if it doesn't reduce the RPM.

[patent path]

probably too minimal in case of the bizon for you to notice

[next onyx]

The SCAR's velocity is so low for a ranged gun it feels like I'm having hit reg problems.

Yeah that's true.

I did ponder that as well.

[patent path]

I think rpm are also somewhat tied to FPS, because guns feel sluggish when I drop below 60fps

[next onyx]

I've heard that controls are tied to frames as well.

[silk surge]

SFAR's RPM is reduced with extended barrel, but I don't think it's reduced enough.

[next onyx]

Control input.

[chilly jacinth]

It sure is

[next onyx]

I think it's always been the case anyways.

[chilly jacinth]

Ye

[ripe hedge]

it does , just checked, same as all other long barrels

[next onyx]

weird.

[patent path]

bizon slaps tho, have been using it in the 8v8 mode

[chilly jacinth]

Same

[next onyx]

The m5 has felt really nice for me in it.

I need to get 10K with it anyways.

[chilly jacinth]

It's a melt machine

[patent path]

am40 is too strong, I think

[tame cobalt]

[patent path]

it is so powerful in close, mid range

very accurate with the 4x scope too

such a tiny gun lol

[next onyx]

I guess in my head I'm used to the high powered extended RPM so when I use standard with long barrel my brain just goes "It hasn't been reduced"

High powered extended on the pp29 wut?

LOL that'd be a weird sausage.

[silk surge]

I think AM40 is at a good spot now tbh. It heavily underperformed back when it had a SMG multiplier by mistake.

[white geyser]

Can you imagine if the PP29 can carry 70 rounds

[patent path]

belt fed bizon

[next onyx]

I just wish the m5 with the standard ammo had a better damage range cause it feels weak.

Belt fed FG42.

[chilly jacinth]

It really melts now with the proper hs multiplier

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/mg42-bfv-reloads-gif-20380681

already have one

[next onyx]

FG42.

NOT MG42.

[patent path]

same bullet nerd

[chilly jacinth]

Just replace the M

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/papapoob-gif-21764042

[ripe hedge]

Also i wanted to reply to this 🙂 We are perfectly fine with guns that are very strong, but have low or niche usage.
We only nudge when something becomes "overwhelming" for the meta, like "use this or lose".
For example, none of the 3 weapons with the highest KDR are in the top 5 Most used weapons 😏

Now ill let you theorycraft which ones they are 😄

[chilly jacinth]

and it's the same thing

[next onyx]

Yeah I could say belt fed kar98k and call it the same gun like some IDIOT.

[tame cobalt]

Pbx

[patent path]

It's a bolt action it's DIFFERENT

[next onyx]

DON'T CARE.

SAME ROUND.

[patent path]

[chilly jacinth]

I bet SVK is one of them

[tame cobalt]

SVK = sheeeeeesh

i wonder if PBX KDR would be skewed by it being the starter smg

[chilly jacinth]

Probably

[tame cobalt]

lower than it should be

[next onyx]

The lower the better SO ITS NEVER CHANGED!!!

[tame cobalt]

[ripe hedge]

We track both overall and "only after a certain level" 🙂

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

Seriously though the pbx kills quick sure but the mag size of 30+1 keeps it from being too good.

[patent path]

the first gun doesn't always mean the starter gun, unless you are playing a pay2win game like crossfire

[night basin]

as much as I don't like BF2042s monetization, the guns are NOT p2w

[patent path]

I remember using the m16 in crossfire 1 until it broke

[night basin]

You seen that new battlepass pistol?

really

really bad

[chilly jacinth]

What

[tame cobalt]

well i mean it's one of the only guns that can be used by noobs so that should have an impact on its overall telemetry

[chilly jacinth]

it's good though

[patent path]

If anything I would say the bizon is the true noob gun

[night basin]

I like blasted a whole mag through several people and they survived it

[chilly jacinth]

[patent path]

it has a lot of ammo, slow fire rate, accurate

[daring wren]

Just like the k30 post nerf, noice

[night basin]

yeah the K30 is just as bad

Team Gun Game was amazing last week but the K30 ruined it

[daring wren]

Yeah I was playing tactical conquest and then remembered why I was playing hardcore portal servers

[chilly jacinth]

Yall need a big glass of get good juice

[night basin]

it took me less time to go from SFAR to like GWS or even AS than it took me going from Bizon to SFAR sometimes

[chilly jacinth]

K30 is still good

[tame cobalt]

but i mean. every player who is new to the game. can't use any SMG other than PBX. So their lack of skill should make the PBX seem worse than it really is, in the overall telemetry data

[patent path]

true

[daring wren]

Yeah, so is my airsoft gun from when I was 8

[tame cobalt]

But as alex said, they account for this

[night basin]

I think the M5A3 is all you need to begin with, the Full Auto mode is okay and if you slap an ACOG and switch to semi you can get some really nice long range kills

[chilly jacinth]

or just use the DM7 instead

[ripe hedge]

Literally 5 mins ago someone said they barely notice the nerf 😄

[chilly jacinth]

if you're just gonna use it on semi

[night basin]

Most people I know who play BF don't understand how important firemode switching is

[night basin]

ah yes that surely invalidates my point then /s

[tame cobalt]

[chilly jacinth]

Its really not

I can just tap fire instead

[daring wren]

K30 slaps on hardcore, don't get me wrong. It's just getting used to a longer ttk now and trying normal health and dmg for the first time in months has me messed up

[silk surge]

That's actually quite interesting. I'm assuming it wouldn't be any of the popular weapons such as M5A3, BSV-M, K30, 12M Auto, SFAR, Avancys etc... I'm assuming that PP-29 and MP9 might be among them as they are both fairly underrated weapons... But most likely I guess it would be the sniper rifles that have the highest KDR...

[tame cobalt]

Hardcore player detected
Opinions invalidated

[daring wren]

But the overall gunplay of the game has improved tremendously, feels like we can run n gun more effectively now

[next onyx]

One thing that I've found consistent is that people with the avancy's often have a high KPM.

[daring wren]

Haha, no it's just that portal was better than base game for quite a while

[tame cobalt]

pbx and mp9 and svk

[winter swan]

the 12M Auto needs a nerf it is so op and can one shot you from over 50 plus metres away still

[next onyx]

Granted I haven't played with this much but it's the only gun where I have a 4 KPM.

[chilly jacinth]

it's fair and balanced

[next onyx]

And my average KPM with guns is around 2 to 2.50.

[chilly jacinth]

perfect hip fire accuracy with slugs is very balanced

[next onyx]

YO.

3KPM with the P90.

[tame cobalt]

SVK is fire tbh

[silk surge]

4 KPM is insane. People in my lobbies are crying when I use Stealth Heli... and I have like 2.5KPM on both of them.

[chilly jacinth]

It be

[tame cobalt]

doof doof

ded

[next onyx]

Ye I have round a 3KPM for my stealth choppers. I use the HMG's though.

[silk surge]

Infantry farming with HGMs is a nightmare on console.

[next onyx]

I accidentally pressed the kill part and the 74u is the first thing I found.

I fly with a controller. The HMG's are annoying to aim with but they kill quick.

[silk surge]

It's disgustingly effective at dogfighting though.

[tame cobalt]

Only thing i dislike is weapons where u have to tap fire fast... and sniper rifles

[next onyx]

The HMG's are good for self reliance.

[white geyser]

The 30mm for the wildcat tank, doesn't feel like the 30mm more like the 20mm and how many 30mms to take down the chopper?

[next onyx]

It's why I use them.

The MPAT for tanks feel decent now.

As well.

[silk surge]

If the enemy stealth heli uses HMGs, I'm basically dead with my inferior 30mm, regardless of skill level. HMGs are simply superior at dogfighting.

[night basin]

bit unrelated to Battlefield, but I currently have homework for my course and they want me to insert a video of my choice into a powerpoint presentation

I think you guys know what this means

[daring wren]

However, 30mm seems better at killing the pilot quickly

Assuming a very accurate shot, but yeah HMG does massive vehicle dmg

[silk surge]

Nah, that would also be the HMGs tbh. Since 30mm relies heavily on splash damage while HMGs are basically machine gun rounds.

[daring wren]

I had it flip flopped, no sleep gang, tru tru

[next onyx]

@silk surge Eheh.

I love how the song playing in the background with the lyrics played at the perfect time.

Don't ask why I had heatseekers on. I must of been experimenting.

[topaz field]

anyone else enjoying the m16 on console now? it fking slapppppppppppsssssss

[silk surge]

That's probably the most annoying way to die in a heli 😭

[next onyx]

My mindset was "If I don't shoot this guy out I am dead"

It is indeed.

[topaz field]

the gorrilaz nice

[silk surge]

Not sure what you're getting at tbh.

[arctic grove]

Respect you're listening to the Gorillaz, but this song is NOT one of their best

[night basin]

I am gonna put in a rickroll

[silk tendon]

Has anyone had issue with low res UI ? It feels like my UI is at 1080 while i've set the game at 1440 . It's extremely annoying .

[next onyx]

Definitely though plastic beach is definitely nice to cruise on.

Uhhhh can't say I have.

[silk surge]

@next onyx This is my favourite type of dogfighting.

[tame cobalt]

u literally shat on them

[silk surge]

I have so many clips of one shotting transport vehicles like this. It's so fun, but also a bit broken.

[winter swan]

that ain't broken lol it's perfectly balanced

[tame cobalt]

bombers always make bf worse

[winter swan]

then use AA's or stingers and all that to take them out

[tame cobalt]

can't even lock onto the shit heli when it's in bomber mode

[winter swan]

sounds like a skill issue

[tame cobalt]

skill issue from the vehicle designers

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840006062575976468/1007358638928695306/Battlefield_2042_2022.08.11_-_17.44.26.15.DVR_online-video-cutter.com.mp4

I'll fucking do it again!

[silk surge]

Most enjoyable thing to do on a stealth heli rofl

[night basin]

These things generally are killfarms

I took down a couple of them in chaos rush (I usually don't play gamemodes with vehicles in them)

[silk surge]

I'm playing Rao most of the time these days, so helis haven't been a problem for me at all while running as infantry.

[night basin]

To me it's a rotation, Rao, Falck and Casper sometimes

Those new Rao and Casper skins look fresh

[silk surge]

They weren't really a problem for me as other specialists either tbh, as long as you pay attention to them and hide while they're nearby.

There are so few air vehicle spawns on each map these days.

[night basin]

The people that grab them usually have no idea what they're doing

But maybe that's a PC thing because people steer them with mouse

[chilly jacinth]

I've been harassing helis with Sundance nades

It's nice to bait out their flares

and then they get dumpstered instantly by other people

[tame cobalt]

Can smart nade even lock onto bomber in stealth

[next onyx]

I mean it'll lock on.

But the bomber will outrun.

[tame cobalt]

[next onyx]

If I hear a sundance grenade I can just fly away.

It's funny.

[chilly jacinth]

They can't lock on when they're in stealth afaik

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's true as well.

You're busy gunning and you hear the beep beep beep.

[daring wren]

Not until the heli takes some damage otherwise, then the stealth disables

[chilly jacinth]

Duh

[queen pivot]

Is it just me or were the servers terrible yesterday with the lag

[tame cobalt]

I once got an extra sundance nade by switching nade type immediately after throwing

[chilly jacinth]

yes 8v8 is very laggy

[chilly jacinth]

It should've just canceled whatever nade you were throwing

[tame cobalt]

But did it

[chilly jacinth]

I do it pretty often

[upbeat sand]

Dam tactical is just all grenade spammers and self heal falks

[chilly jacinth]

Since the game has a habit of switching nade modes randomly

[tame cobalt]

Cope

[upbeat sand]

Still better than exodus

[next onyx]

In my experience, Strat conquest is just one sided.

[tame cobalt]

Correct

[next onyx]

I had a lot of fun earlier in a really competitive match trying to carry my team.

[chilly jacinth]

It's one sided if not everyone spawns in at the same time

[next onyx]

"Oh look I'm on the other side now"

"Time TO FARM"

[daring wren]

My fault, when you question obvious facts about stealth I was assuming you didn't know that

[silk tendon]

who plays at 1440 here ?

[chilly jacinth]

Cause the game starts before everyone loads in

[daring wren]

[next onyx]

Yeah I play on 1440p. What's up?

[winter swan]

Tactical conquest I think should of been at least 16 v 16

[silk tendon]

is your UI blurry ? like it is at 1080 ?

[next onyx]

Not necessarily.

[chilly jacinth]

I play on 1440p too

[tame cobalt]

it will be 16v16 next week

[full burrow]

me2

[next onyx]

This is how it appears for me.

[night basin]

yep, 8v8 is not enough, that is not a definition of close quarters

[silk tendon]

guys my UI feels like its at lower resolution , game is fine but UI looks like its at 1080 .

[night basin]

Close quarters mean everyone in tight rooms and constant pressure

[chilly jacinth]

It might be a tad blurry if you've increased the UI scale

[night basin]

but like 16 people on these maps?

[silk tendon]

ive even changed the UI upscaling to "1" at thje change log

[winter swan]

Was this posted by DICE them selves or is this just i heard this from someone?

[night basin]

it's a ghost town

especially when the servers aren't even full

[silk tendon]

i havent

[tame cobalt]

The first week of the event is 8v8 and the second week will be 16v16

[tame cobalt]

official

[next onyx]

Stranded and Renewal are the best on 8v8.

These layouts feel like they were designed with 16v16 in mind.

[tame cobalt]

arica?

[chilly jacinth]

I dont like Renewal

[winter swan]

Where is this post

[chilly jacinth]

it's too easy to spawntrap on

[next onyx]

Arica I haven't gotten a proper game on.

[night basin]

I do not like Standed

[tame cobalt]

i think you'll dig it

[chilly jacinth]

That ones also easy to spawntrap

[next onyx]

I've played it. The layout is fine.

But I haven't had a proper game to gauge how it plays.

[night basin]

I do not know why but majority of the games I play are always on stranded

[daring wren]

Idk why they had to keep the static spawn, just make spawns random. More chaotic that way, especially for only 8v8

[night basin]

like can the algorithm choose something else other than stranded FOR FIVE MINUTES?

Arica Harbour is nice

well depends on which area

[chilly jacinth]

Having completely random spawns would make it flow weirdly

[night basin]

I like the actual harbour part

[daring wren]

Random if being dominated against, otherwise based on objective location

[chilly jacinth]

Ah makes more sense

[next onyx]

Domination has random spawns.

[night basin]

Wait, the whole time I was talking the wrong map

[next onyx]

This is strat conquest.

[night basin]

I don't mean stranded

I mean Discarded

[next onyx]

LOL.

[night basin]

that one I hate

[next onyx]

Discarded has a bad layout.

[night basin]

yes but like over 50% of the time when I log into a game, it's on discarded

[azure basalt]

the new event m5 skin change any optic on it ?

[tame cobalt]

Tact

[next onyx]

Strat Tact it's literally the same.

Not that I know of, Zie.

[night basin]

Renewal is okay but not my taste, I haven't played on Breakaway since the beta because I tend not to play conquest

but I liked Breakaway

Kaleidoscope is nice

[tame cobalt]

just have vehicles in HQs

[night basin]

Hourglass based too

[azure basalt]

oh okay.. i have the free skin for the ak and the scope changes its really cool

[night basin]

BTW if you go to the battlefield 2042 page of EA.com, go to the map overview and select manifest, the page blanks

[daring wren]

Yeah, idk the "tactical conquest" mode is kinda fun but like others have said it feels like it needs more players

[night basin]

Idk why but I really enjoy playing on Breakaway in smaller game modes

where it's only the oil rig

[chilly jacinth]

Breakaway conquest however

pure pain

[winter swan]

Tactical conquest needs to become a permanent mode as well as exodus conquest

[night basin]

I wonder if we get a BF4 map in the future, something like Locker or Shanghai

[daring wren]

Operation Metro needs a remaster

[night basin]

yes metro too

[winter swan]

Metro and locker only

[daring wren]

Ye

[night basin]

but it looks like only 2 maps from each classic game

2 1942, 2 BC2 and 2 BF3 maps are in BF2042

[patent path]

bruh, where is the aks74u

bruh

give

[daring wren]

They were going for an infantry feel with stranded, they could just bring back the good infantry based maps for a tdm/ rush playlist. No need to stop at 2 for each game

[chilly jacinth]

Im surpried we didn't get tact conquest on Noshahr canals

its perfect size for it

[daring wren]

Just the ship

[night basin]

I wonder when battlefield stops it's weird obsession for container warfare

We got Noshahr which was based

now in BF2042 we have stranded, Discarded and Arica as well

DICE: Develop a map not centered around ship containers challenge (impossible)

[patent path]

containers = industrial, modern

[next onyx]

Its easier to re use assets they already have in place.

Personally I don't care cause it's still cover at least.

[daring wren]

Shipment from CoD spectating all the container maps like

[night basin]

Shipment is nice because it's incredibly tight

you are basically permanently involved in a gunfight

as you should be in a close quarters environment

[daring wren]

Yeah, 100+ kill simulator. Good times

[night basin]

Pretty much

I don't think DICE will ever create something better than BF3 Close Quarters DLC

That was perfect

I hated Scrapmetal but 925, Ziba Tower and especially Donya Palace will forever be in my heart

[daring wren]

Tdm plays pretty well, but many of the maps are not suitable for that constant close quarters action.

Lots of dmr spam

[night basin]

which ones?

BF3CQ or BF2042?

[daring wren]

Bf2042

[night basin]

I agree, you still have too much space in between

the map designs are very open and I already didn't like that in BF1

[daring wren]

Do any maps other than stranded offer a similar level of cqb? Can throw a portal tdm server together in a few minutes honestly. But how many players is too much?

Either enable friendlyfire or disable casper. Bc the drone glitchers are cancer

[chilly jacinth]

just shoot them

[tame cobalt]

isn't that just cod lmao

[daring wren]

To keep the most ppl engaged in the game, they should offer it in all forms.

[tame cobalt]

I'm definitely not against having those experiences in bf

[daring wren]

s3 maps leaked/ confirmed?

[lilac plinth]

Where to find It?

[daring wren]

Here. I'm just asking if anyone heard anything lmao

[night basin]

This was probably brought up dozens of times but

[visual horizon]

it's a Battlefield staple, it's here to stay

[night basin]

Am I the only one who gets reminded of Andrew Tate when looking at crawford?

[lilac plinth]

No ahahaha

[visual horizon]

containers provide great cover and they're easy to plop down everywhere

[night basin]

Andrew Tate in BF2042: "What color is your MAVgatti?"

[drowsy kindle]

Yoo gm people

[lone void]

I thought the Andrew Tate joke died when Crawford came out

[dense parcel]

So, the game didnt start on the EA launcher, repairing it did nothing.

Installed Origin, it automatically repaired it, now it runs.
Looking forward to the EA launcher replacing origin

[spare quest]

[patent path]

bro, it's literally in the name, Early Access Launcher

cut them some slacks

[drowsy kindle]

EA launcher kinda sucks

[night basin]

EA launcher is miles worse than origin just for the fact that you cannot locate installed games alone

If you are a PC enthusiast, chances are you will reset windows many times over time while all your games remain on a different drive

[dense parcel]

Ah mb

[night basin]

being unable to relocate them sucks

[dense parcel]

exactly what caused my issues in the first place

[drowsy kindle]

I cannot stand ea, given the fact that it crashes all the time, and i have a good pc

[night basin]

there is a workaround by just redownloading the game onto the same folder it is installed on, but that does not work with every game (e.g. NFS Heat) and you need enough storage for the same game again just to initiate the download

[dense parcel]

It worked semi - it found the game, repaired it using this method....but it just didnt launch for me

[arctic grove]

mmmm

just got accused of hacking by like 5 people in a match i was in

[lone void]

PC moment

[dense parcel]

yessir

[lone void]

It's the biggest compliment you can receive as someone who doesn't hack

[arctic grove]

i dont hack tho

and all 5 of them said i was being reported

[lone void]

You won't get banned unless the people who review this shit are stupid

[arctic grove]

its funny tbh cuz the guy literally didn't wanna see proof when i told him multiple times i could give him proof i dont hack

[lone void]

Yeah because he knows he's an idiot

[arctic grove]

literally bruh

[lone void]

Source: dude trust me

[arctic grove]

he reported me just because i was going at end of game with like 59 kills

that's not even my highest kill game

[lone void]

Brug

[arctic grove]

fr

istg bruh if i get banned from false accusations

[lone void]

I was in a game where someone was in a stealth heli all game and got 84 kills

Sure it was hell and I wanted to punch them through the screen but I wouldn't report them

[arctic grove]

i think my highest ever game was like

nearly 132?

[lone void]

Yikers

[arctic grove]

helis op lol

[lone void]

I'll get 12 if I'm lucky

[spare quest]

Just bully the pilots as Rao

[arctic grove]

but anyways yah i was being accused of soft aim

[lone void]

Cba, team were useless anyway

[arctic grove]

then it somehow turned into walls

like wtf bruh

[lone void]

I know imagine hacking 2042

[arctic grove]

I wonder if braindead fucking morons know people can track movement with the ears they have

[lone void]

Man I learned that quick playing tactical conquest yesterday

[arctic grove]

I've known how to do it for a long time

but still

the fact people just assume walls whenever someone knows how to use their ears is insane

[arctic grove]

"if you know more knowledge and is better than me you MUST be cheating!!"

[lone void]

CoD moment

[arctic grove]

and for this i just sink alot of hours into aim trainers to help me stay good

[arctic grove]

fr

I'm gonna add the fuck on ea

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-stork-soon-tmobile-gif-19545973

[arctic grove]

I better not get banned for being good at a game bruh

Does the Kalidescope Ai farm still work?

[spare quest]

depends

[shy latch]

nice to hear that, now I'm more afraid to receive the notification of Origin deprecation and EA Launcher replacement 😨

[night basin]

I just stopped bothering with Origin

don't get me wrong I think Origin is far superior

[arctic grove]

On what?

[night basin]

but having both installed simultaneously is such a pain

[shy latch]

I can imagine, just last night I thought to install both, but I hesitated thinking about some issues that may occurs

[arctic grove]

Origin is being shutdown eventually i'm pretty sure no?

[drowsy kindle]

Yup

And im scared

[arctic grove]

y

[drowsy kindle]

Origin is a great launcher

[arctic grove]

meh

[drowsy kindle]

i mean

[arctic grove]

It's always slow and clonky for me whenever i had to use it

[drowsy kindle]

Not that great but it got its cons

[arctic grove]

I like EA app more

in terms of overall looks the EA app wins fo sure

[drowsy kindle]

but its still a beta rightv

?

[arctic grove]

atm? i dont think so anymore?

[drowsy kindle]

huh

nice

Hope it works well

[dense parcel]

its missing crucial features

[arctic grove]

like

[dense parcel]

Relocating Games in a different directory for starters, which is as basic as a feature as it gets

[arctic grove]

mmmm

[drowsy kindle]

Yeah but its still good

I mean, the relocating of games needs to be implemented but the launcher itself its good

[dense parcel]

True. And somehow, repairing games works better/different on origin

[drowsy kindle]

Lets just hope for the best

[shy latch]

in the meantime DICE could implement some QoL on the future patches of 2042 😇

[next onyx]

That's what they're doing man.

[shy latch]

yeah I know, but there are few features that I don't know if they already planned to implement, but for myself it will improve the game a little bit

[remote kiln]

like what?

[chilly jacinth]

Nothing it seems

[fervent grotto]

Did they make the characters into classes yet?

[remote kiln]

season 3

[fervent grotto]

Ah

I don’t really see why their doing that

[remote kiln]

it isn't going to change anything just to satisfy bs nostalgia that people seemingly have for a bad system

[fervent grotto]

I feel like most people have gotten used to the characters

I feel like that’s a solution to a problem we don’t have

[chilly jacinth]

it's gonna be pretty jarring to have classes

[drowsy kindle]

Discount maybe? 🥺

[winter swan]

And it’ll also lock some weapons behind particular specialists, like how some weapons on past BF games where only able to be used by that class, which I’m not a fan of

[chilly jacinth]

didn't they say weapons will remain as they are

anyone can use anything

[uncut bay]

trying to implement classes now is a terrible idea really

everyone is used to specialists, it'll annoy people who like them and it won't satisfy people who dislike them

[fervent grotto]

I feel like people don’t care about that now. Take the time their wasting fixing a problem most people don’t care about now, and use that to focus on more important matters

[fading wharf]

so i can still play the sniper rilfe as assault for example?

[winter swan]

I doubt it

[fading wharf]

[uncut bay]

weapons won't be restricted, it'll just be gadgets

[next onyx]

They said they won't be touching weapons.

[uncut bay]

which is another reason why it's a pointless change

they're trying to meet halfway

[fading wharf]

[uncut bay]

but it just fucks everything up for both sides

[silk surge]

Wait until the subreddit finds out that the class system is scheduled to release in Patch 3.2, which is several months after Season 3 releases

[winter swan]

Are they gonna limit how many of one specialist can be one a team? Or will that not change?

[next onyx]

These changes won't really affect me. I can just abuse med pens as a mackay while running c5 at the same time.

[uncut bay]

i also hope they let us assign specialists to individual loadouts, it's already annoying having to switch gadget because lis+rocket launcher can't run. Just let me have one class that always has lis selected and another that always has paik selected

[shy latch]

• mini map size is limited to 125% for...unknown reason, it would be nice to have even more (like on any previous bf)
• the squad mates icons and names shouldn't be resized together with the mini map, it's a nonsense and imo a distraction
• when squad mates pings you can hear the ping sound from (as example) the left side but when you turn left sometimes you can't see the ping for unknown reason, so it would be good to adopt the BFV system: set on the mini map borders the ping so to know exactly the ping direction and where to look at
• (I know this is not a QoL, instead is a performance implementation) add FSR for those poor AMD gpu users ||😇||

[silk surge]

Won't affect me that much either... But it will be funny to see people mald once they find out that the class rework wont arrive during Season 3 launch. They should have read what DICE wrote.

[drowsy kindle]

Jesus christ

When is season 3 coming out

[winter swan]

Sadly I highly doubt FSR will be put into 2042 I think that would require a whole game rewrite but I could be wrong there

[shy latch]

because a lot of users asked for that, even tho class system doesn't belong to 2042

[winter swan]

If this event is the half way point of the season I think December

[drowsy kindle]

Ohh thx

[winter swan]

I could be wrong with that

[shy latch]

I'm not a developer and I don't know anything about coding and this kind of stuff, but afaik if a game has DLSS then FSR can be implemented easily

[fervent grotto]

Why can’t we get like, more content maybe?

I don’t care about classes at this point

[winter swan]

I will say this MW2 having FSR in the beta was nice cause I could run the game maxed out at 4K and get over 100fps

On a 3060

[uncut bay]

4K on a 3060 is brave

[remote kiln]

FSR wouldn't impact gaming performance, contrary to what most think, it would just make the game look like shit

[winter swan]

It ran fantastic

[uncut bay]

but you had access to dlss anyway

not really the target audience of fsr

though fsr did improve performance more than dlss in mw2

[remote kiln]

it does not it can be done in less than a week, there's just no point to adding it to the game

[winter swan]

DLSS is mainly for 2k, 4K and 8k monitors

[fervent grotto]

Y’all gotta explain what FSR is

[remote kiln]

it's an upscaling spatial algorithm

[shy latch]

FSR doesn't improve fps with a minimum image quality impact? and FSR 2.1 improved the image quality as I understand

[uncut bay]

fidelityfx super resolution, basically dlss but not restricted to nvidia cards

[fervent grotto]

Ok gotcha

[remote kiln]

it doesn't improve performance in battlefield

you are not GPU bound, you are IPC bound

[shy latch]

I don't get it

[remote kiln]

you don't get it because the game doesn't work like other games lol

[fervent grotto]

Is that because the game is bad or is that a design choice?

[shy latch]

🤔

[silk surge]

Yeah, the performance issues stems from the game clocking your CPU iirc.

[remote kiln]

FSR is a regressive algorithm, it only gains performance when the frame buffer can actually keep up

[remote kiln]

no it's just because it's one of the only games which has massive entities

it's not bad, it can't be built any other way without removing half of the games features

[fervent grotto]

Well I guess it’s good it doesn’t apply to me since I’m on an og Xbox

[patent path]

just shot down a Liz's rocket with an assault rifle

[shy latch]

@remote kiln my previous sentence if a game has DLSS then FSR can be implemented easily is it true or is just a fake that is written on the internet?

[remote kiln]

yes it's true

the algorithm is open source and straightforward to do

[shy latch]

😕

[remote kiln]

it just doesn't make any sense to add it to the game that's all

same goes for DLSS DICE were paid to implement it

[shy latch]

still don't understand why can't be implemented on 2042 tho

[remote kiln]

it can

it's just not what you're thinking lol

it's a waste of time is the tldr

[shy latch]

what is tldr?

[remote kiln]

^

[fervent grotto]

To long, didn’t read

[remote kiln]

you will not gain performance from it

[shy latch]

ok, what is IPC

[remote kiln]

instructions per clock

the only material difference the GPU has on 2042 is on terrain rendering which is comparatively nothing to where the actual demanding areas are with simulated physics

[uncut bay]

is that why graphics settings don't affect fps much

[remote kiln]

yes

[shy latch]

but even tho 2042 is more cpu intensive than gpu, why nvidia users can have an increase of fps with dlss activated? even 10-20 fps but is better than nothing. shouldn't fsr do the same?

[remote kiln]

they dont

99% of users gain nothing from it

infact, it regresses performance more often than not in half of the maps

and again no it won't, because there is no gain to be made

[patent path]

yeah I don't gain anything from enabling dlss

still waiting for the performance patch they promised

[shy latch]

mmh ok 😕

[remote kiln]

most of it is content which 2042 is technically 5 years too early for realistically but yeah people need to stop blaming game developers and move on from their hardware they bought in 2016

[patent path]

ah yes, both teams are my enemies

[winter swan]

DLSS is mainly only for 2K, 4K and 8K monitors

[remote kiln]

only for situations where you're actually GPU bound*

tldr 3090 or above if nothing else forget it

[patent path]

10th gen intel cpus are from 2020 but it's still struggling with 2042

[winter swan]

The good old one man army lol

[patent path]

I literally cannot spawn

lmao

[remote kiln]

yeah those days of keeping hardware for years was over, well 3 years ago

[shy latch]

same here, 10700k

[patent path]

if only there were some streaming service for 2042