battlefield-2042

[chilly nimbus]

[arctic grove]

Yeah. But it did literally nothing

really?

[night basin]

are these new liquidators cosmetics gonna stay forever or only 2 weeks?

[remote kiln]

main laptop

[lunar finch]

What kinda laptop has a display on the front😦

[copper spindle]

Yup, limited time stuff yk

[arctic grove]

@remote kiln is that the laptop you always flex that was like 1500

[remote kiln]

it is the bottom is the 2022 model which was.. 1.5k.. the top is the 2020 model, old laptop that i gave away

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

What gpu does it have?

[night basin]

so only 2 weeks then?

[remote kiln]

2022 has the 6700hs, 2020 model had the 2060

full specs are on my steam

[arctic grove]

Ohh the 2022 model went.. AMD right?

[remote kiln]

it did yeah

[arctic grove]

Amd go brr

[remote kiln]

i barely use the thing tbh

just sits in my bag

same goes for the switch just sits in the dock

[arctic grove]

RIP

I go out a lot

Having a beast of a laptop like that would be a godsend tbh

[remote kiln]

its pretty thin

surprisingly

[arctic grove]

i Wonder how much it is in usd

[remote kiln]

i got it a few months ago can probably find it cheaper than msrp

[arctic grove]

tbh

If I had money I’d for sure buy one lol

[arctic grove]

send link

[vocal adder]

Still not skins that suit blizzard bandit shame

[remote kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/HIDevolution-Zephyrus-Advantage-GA402RJ-4800MHz/dp/B09T2N4G54

[arctic grove]

it costs more than a 4090

[remote kiln]

supply has been terrible for it

[arctic grove]

The laptop?

[remote kiln]

you can probably find a diff revision

yeah

actually asus lists stock ill see if theres any

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna keep that Amazon link open on my phone

if I ever manage to get the money for it I’d for sure probably consider

[remote kiln]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-14-wqxga-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6700s-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd/6494638.p?skuId=6494638 one from bestbuy

open box one at 1367? jesus

[arctic grove]

that’s not a bad price for what you are getting

sadly I’d need a job first to even think of getting that thing

im jobless rn

[remote kiln]

i just got mine on finance

[arctic grove]

I forget sometimes

Finance is like payments right

[remote kiln]

it is yeah payment of x per month for x months

[arctic grove]

ikr being jobless sucks! I have too much free time

[remote kiln]

could have used one of my credit cards tbh but wasnt much difference

[arctic grove]

I’d rather be using my time working and getting money

Instead of sitting here playing 2042

[remote kiln]

you lose your job?

[arctic grove]

no I just don’t have one

[remote kiln]

you can get to s200 now

[arctic grove]

I don’t want s200 tho

I want a job

[fading wharf]

We can switch np m8

[arctic grove]

LOL

[fading wharf]

[remote kiln]

im the laziest fucker alive anyways

times ill just sleep through my entire shift

[arctic grove]

deco do u get paid a lot

[remote kiln]

define a lot

[arctic grove]

uhhh

how much is a lot in your money

[fading wharf]

I can top dat

[remote kiln]

so if you go by deciles im in the top 10% of earners in the UK

[arctic grove]

is that good

[remote kiln]

yes.. i suppose, in the US it translates to around $150k/year

[arctic grove]

WOWZA

so yes

[remote kiln]

something like anyways forgot the federal breakdown

[fading wharf]

We are looking for employees but u gotta work in germany

[arctic grove]

ahh I’m in the us LOL

I’d do anything for a job rn tbh

[remote kiln]

im near enough £40k/year tldr

[fading wharf]

Just around the corner

[arctic grove]

was it hard to get your job position

[remote kiln]

for me? eh not really

i left my degree to get it

[arctic grove]

👀

[fading wharf]

flex

[remote kiln]

was studying for a bachelors then got offered the position so just graduated with an associates degree

[arctic grove]

Not really you say

[fading wharf]

I mean if a lazy person can get that job anyone can?

[arctic grove]

yeahh but like

[remote kiln]

yeah i mean it was pretty easy, i moved company in june

had 6 interviews lined up in a week and the contract signed on that friday (of that week)

[night basin]

Man last Portal modes were so cool, these new ones are boring

[arctic grove]

I’m still a minor. and in my state minors need “working papers”

[night basin]

Like Rush with double the player count, they called it "Chaos"

to me that's a tuesday morning

[fading wharf]

[remote kiln]

think my first job was when i was 18 iirc

idk its been a while

17 maybe dunno too old

[arctic grove]

I’ll take anything but fast food

[night basin]

I love incredibly twisted fast paced close quarters action that does not allow you to have a lower idle pulse of 178bpm and a blood pressure of 200/120

[arctic grove]

I don’t want my skin becoming grease

[remote kiln]

meh i was in retail for like 2 years

[arctic grove]

how’d that go LOL

[fading wharf]

Portal changed too much, bfbc2 modes are now hosted by players and u gotta pray that they are online when u play

[remote kiln]

compared to now pretty shit lmao

[arctic grove]

I mean I’d assume so

If you are making 150k a year in usd

😭

[remote kiln]

customers used to shout at staff steal stuff etc

[arctic grove]

Bleh

[remote kiln]

then staff werent any better near constant drama

[arctic grove]

I Wonder what Jobs a Minor Like me could get here in my state

[remote kiln]

store manager got fired for financial fraud from their hq

[remote kiln]

you wouldnt suspect so

definitely dont intend to give it off anyways

[arctic grove]

I’d hope not??

Seems like a really good position

[remote kiln]

i grew up in basically what youd classify as destitute poverty

school was one of the lowest ranking in the country couldnt afford lunches etc

so built everything rn on my own

[arctic grove]

damn that sucks

[remote kiln]

oh yeah for sure i mean ive still got remnants from it

[arctic grove]

how so? if you don’t mind me asking

[remote kiln]

used to be massively addicted to sugar cause i couldnt afford any food, and it nearly caused me to lose all my teeth by when i was 18

[arctic grove]

O

[remote kiln]

got missing teeth from back then in my backliners

fillings etc

[arctic grove]

Are ur teeth okay now

[remote kiln]

yeah lmao, lucky i didnt stray too far off that path

gave up sugar after the dentist warned me

well the massive addiction i was on anyways

[arctic grove]

man Fr went from poverty to making 150k a year in usd

props to you Fr

[remote kiln]

meh i dont really think about it tbh

[arctic grove]

‘Mm

[remote kiln]

about to buy my mortgage in a few weeks, money's just a means to an end

will be the first in my line to actually own property

[arctic grove]

your own house?

[remote kiln]

indeed

landowner too

[arctic grove]

how old even are you

[remote kiln]

22

[arctic grove]

LOL

doing pretttyyy good for a 22 year old

[remote kiln]

lmao i suppose so

[arctic grove]

I mean

I’d say so

[remote kiln]

got my deposit secured for it, just buying time for legal fees

should close before december

[arctic grove]

oh also

got any ideas of first jobs

I’m curious of your knowledge 👀

[remote kiln]

are you going to uni or?

[arctic grove]

man honestly

I have no clue

[remote kiln]

hm guess i can give some advice i suppose, biggest mistake ive seen folk do is not figure out something till its too late

lot of people i went to high school with now are stuck in nowhere cause they didnt go to advanced education

you dont see it till you're suddenly 20, so decide on something, if you can, doesnt have to be something you "want" to do

careers are adjustable and you can retrain for something if you dont like it, just its better than nothing

first job wise i wouldnt stress too much about, say youre willing to learn is the key part as you dont have experience you can fallback on

[arctic grove]

saying I’m willing to learn is key?

[remote kiln]

yes

[arctic grove]

mmmm

I’ll keep that in mind

[fossil trench]

You need to play the new mode to get the rewards right?

[remote kiln]

you can list "im x person with x skills" etc, but its very cliche

everyone does it and managers see right through it

give yourself the impression that you want to learn, and that'll be your sales pitch to be hired

[arctic grove]

this sounds stressful

but definitely worth it

[remote kiln]

it can be, depends how you assume a job

which is why i would say dont take it too seriously

[arctic grove]

mm and here I was a couple of days ago with you saying I was being charged 110 dollars for dming you

[vocal adder]

I like this new mode but 8v8 is just way to low

[remote kiln]

life advice aint cheap

[arctic grove]

LOL

[remote kiln]

well till you get abruptly fired like i did

[arctic grove]

trust

Will pay you what you’re owed once I get money

[remote kiln]

donate it to charity i dont need your money

[arctic grove]

LOL

Just for you

I promise to donate 110 to a charity

[remote kiln]

i say that just because a charity was ironically my first paid employment

[arctic grove]

mm well still

[remote kiln]

it was hell but fun at the same time

[arctic grove]

donating to a charity sounds like a nice thing to do

[remote kiln]

never donate to something unless you can afford to

or spend, in that manner

dont feel obligated to, either

[arctic grove]

whenever I get to open accounts I plan on doing savings and checking

[remote kiln]

oh yeah thats very cliche sorry to disappoint youll stop it within half a year

[arctic grove]

LOL

what makes you think I will KEK

[remote kiln]

life

what youll come to find out in time is there's always something that comes up that ruins your financial plans

[buoyant trail]

Basically

[upbeat sluice]

Uh what is going on in this chat lol

[remote kiln]

discussion

[buoyant trail]

Think you can safely start saving money? Guess what car problems.

[remote kiln]

and thats why i dont have a car

[arctic grove]

deco is being a nice person and totally “freely” giving me life advice

[upbeat sluice]

Seems like a PM conversation

[remote kiln]

dw youll feel like a debt to me in 4 years once youre a millionaire

so my advice pays for itself

[arctic grove]

probably LOL

[remote kiln]

too bad its a public channel

[arctic grove]

I doubt I’ll ever hit that

[remote kiln]

yeah you wont

[arctic grove]

LMFAO

[remote kiln]

but thats why its funny

[buoyant trail]

4 years later deco gets a check for 2 million

[remote kiln]

spend it on lootboxes

[arctic grove]

trust

[buoyant trail]

[arctic grove]

Jokes or not I still seriously appreciate the words tho @remote kiln

[hollow solstice]

Best skin is for Casper

Ngl

[arctic grove]

Thank u

[hollow solstice]

Casper has best skin

^^^

[remote kiln]

yeah np

you wont realise how quick time goes by either as i found out

or how much you change even, i look like an entirely diff guy from when i was 16/17

[arctic grove]

I look

decent

I suppose

Conclusion

[remote kiln]

ive actually got a comparison from my old passport

sec

[arctic grove]

Event is a dosghit cash grab

[remote kiln]

literally a new guy lmao

[arctic grove]

LOL

the buzz cut was not it

[remote kiln]

100% i look like ive committed a crime

[arctic grove]

💀

I Wonder how your ears went less sticking out

[remote kiln]

i honestly have no idea

i went by big ears during high school

[arctic grove]

He glued them

[open tangle]

Hello

[remote kiln]

jawline massively expanded

[arctic grove]

bros ears big ears the third II

[open tangle]

I tried out the new game mode it’s fun. I thought some of the skins were going to be free but that isn’t the case it seems

Everything is in the store

And they cost a fortune

[remote kiln]

time to pay those $$

[upbeat sluice]

Yeah the only good free skin is the whyte AK

[remote kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/bedtime-mouse-despereaux-big-ears-gif-13218672

[open tangle]

Cute mouse

Tbh they’re all white skins though so they stand out

[fiery shoal]

finally tried rush the other day, i had no idea it was a small game mode

i utterly shit on the enemy team but we still lost as attackers

[sharp marten]

Yo is next month the last month of season 2?

[fiery shoal]

sounds about right

[arctic grove]

Most likely

[open tangle]

Go to missions and look at how many weeks are left

[fiery shoal]

though the end of next month right?

basically we should be in the middle of the season, season 2 started 8/30

so basically a month and a half ago

[open tangle]

Are you gonna get cod

[fiery shoal]

nope

i havent bought cod since blops 2

and i especially hate the tacticool approach to mw19/22

[open tangle]

What’s that game called that ex dice devs are making

Flash ?

[fiery shoal]

the finals

super stoked for that

[remote kiln]

battlefield renewal

[arctic grove]

the finals is an odd game

Cool. but odd

[fiery shoal]

it looks insane and i love it

[arctic grove]

Ok so after checking all the skins out and doing the math.... 34 of 38 items on the store are behind a paywall.....

[arctic grove]

Just like how I love you (kidding)

[fiery shoal]

isnt that how it normally is

[arctic grove]

On a F2P yes. Its a typical model. Except we all payed full price or more.

[shell ermine]

Why are they doing 8v8 this week and 16v16 next week?

[arctic grove]

Liquidators event

[fiery shoal]

both are still live services though that provide free major content, i dont think theres a consideration of if its f2p or paid for the base game

[mental delta]

Yup, players make an effort and come back on this game and that's how they thank us

[chilly oak]

They are just skins man stop complaining

U already have lots of level skins or t1 skins or bp skins to grind for

[fiery shoal]

i get it, i want more stuff for free too, but damn.. people really act like they are owed a lot of free shit and anything less is unacceptable

[remote kiln]

i am very concerned by your pfp

and your discord name

[chilly oak]

I am very hopeful

[arctic grove]

Good

[remote kiln]

[kindred flint]

the irony is, this is the same person that spams their cropped picture of the tech channel not being a tech support channel....yet is ignoring the rule of this channel Discussion about Battlefield 2042! hypocrites are amazing

[shell ermine]

I mean why split it like that?

Imo 8v8 is pretty bad, 16v16 might be better

[eager spire]

Premium currencies and paid battlepasses are things that don't belong in full priced games. If you wanna make a live service game, you shouldn't be able to sell it for $60+.

[mighty holly]

What the fuck is up my fellow pogger lads

[arctic grove]

Yup

[tender folio]

[hazy sun]

I feel like they are testing out 1 spec per squad with this event

[remote kiln]

id be surprised if they sell any in decent quantity anyways

[arctic grove]

But as people put it.... Its just skins.

[kindred flint]

imagine playing 8v8 with 3 cap points and still not being able to play the objective

[fiery shoal]

horrible take

[hazy sun]

tunnel vision hits hard

[arctic grove]

Battlefield moment

[eager spire]

👍

[fiery shoal]

lets just ignore the free major content in maps and weapons

shit that used to be paid

[kindred flint]

its not tunnel vision, its i dont know how conquest works at all

[signal forge]

Is the event still disabled or did they fix it?

[night basin]

Only halfway agree. Battlepasses and paid items are a good way of ensuring constant cash flow and an investment into the quality of the game itself

But that only works in theory as publishers will still put quantity over quality and barrage out a game of an IP every 2-3 years or so

[hazy sun]

just dont camp one spot, if you are getting beat down on one flag just flank and ignore the fight to cap a new point, its easy and it gets you ribbons easier as well

[kindred flint]

do you even #direct-communication bro?

[tidal hornet]

thought they said they nerfed the ava

still seems really good

[vocal adder]

Made no difference

[night basin]

The event is available now and I absolutely hate it, the skins are fresh tho

[kindred flint]

i used it a bit...still quite strong out to at least 75m

[fiery shoal]

it literally is just skins... you get free major content with the side effect of optional and trivial cosmetics

[kindred flint]

bads are still going to cry about it

[night basin]

but 8v8 is just not big enough

[kindred flint]

they just cant stomach the truth that any other AR minus maybe the m16...would also have killed them in the same situation

[hazy sun]

next week is 16v16 itl probably get better if map sizes dont grow

[kindred flint]

scar still hits like a truck with 40 round mags and has a nade launcher...

[night basin]

I need a permanent SquidG's Chaos

that was one of the very few portal game modes where teams weren't so imbalanced

I loved the absolute mayhem

[hazy sun]

I want them to make 128 rush perm, that was fun

[night basin]

again to me this ain't chaos, it's an average thursday morning

[eager spire]

Chaos was literally stuffing 128 players into maps aren't made for that many people.

[arctic grove]

There are dedicated servers in Portal with full xp my guy.

[shell ermine]

What is with the locking of specialists if they are already in your squad?

[night basin]

I love fast pace action so much, I spent most of my time in BF3 going noshahr knifing

[shell ermine]

Like I'll just quit if I can't use MacKay

[signal forge]

Do you always tell your friends to use Google when they ask you a question? Lmao

[tidal hornet]

is that in every gamemode? i just noticed it in the new one but if its in every i might just quit

[hazy sun]

just the event

[tidal hornet]

thank god

[night basin]

I didn't play a lot of battlefield 3, I got it when origin started their "on the house" campaign, but until I got a PC that could actually run it, BF4 was long out

[upbeat sluice]

It's just cringe attention seeking. Sad, really.

[arctic grove]

Think about it, all that we get is a gamemode, a player card, a gun skin, a player skin and a vehicle skin. The rest of the good stuff are all behind a paywall that costs more than $50+. But this is just my point of view.

[eager spire]

That's stupid. Why is that a thing?

[shell ermine]

Gotta love matchmaking lmao.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/439132278170320897/1029524381275275274/183c936418761-screenshotUrl.jpg

[hazy sun]

cross play disabled?

[shell ermine]

Nope

[night basin]

In the short time I played BF3, I DID THIS https://i.imgur.com/Oh0gxF0.png

Pretty sure nobody else in the world has this

209 knife kills in less than 3hrs of knife usage is like a kill once per 40 seconds

[arctic grove]

sup party people

[night basin]

I should have unlocked a bipod for the knife

[arctic grove]

I only saw the gun skin, how you get the rest?

I wanted a snowball skin for my grenade.

[fiery shoal]

think about it, we are generally still paying 60 dollars for games, despite 60 dollars being the price of games for decades, inflation ALONE accounts for a price increase. thats not even considering the obvious increase in complexity of games and the sheer amount of resources it takes to create games now vs 20 years ago (also considering the employee pay increase). now even ignoring ALL that, we now arent paying for maps or weapons, which is being offset by things like paid for cosmetics or BP which generally only have cosmetics as well. the GOOD STUFF is maps and weapons, WHICH WE DONT PAY FOR ANYMORE

[arctic grove]

oh boy

[hazy sun]

@night basin hate to burst your bubble friend, i have 311 in 20m 14.88

[arctic grove]

company Kool-aid drinker

[fiery shoal]

it has nothing to do with any company, its the general state of gaming

we are spoiled and yet people complain that they have to spend real money to earn trivial cosmetics?

its like complaining you got a burger for free but they want to charge you 5 bucks to change the color of the bun

[night basin]

Did you have it pulled out? or were these oppurtunity kills?

[arctic grove]

spoiled haha, man you got it way wrong

[cyan trout]

I personally wish products were sold for what their perceived value is as a complete product.

[hazy sun]

always an opportunity

[night basin]

yes, mine was all knife, no guns

so of course you got less time

[fiery shoal]

100% spoiled, there has never been a point in time where we had so many completely free options for games and DLC across the board is almost completely gone (except for sp dlc)

[night basin]

it counts the time the knife is actively out

[eager spire]

We are spoiled
we are spoiled? we are spoiled cause we had games that launch in such an abysmal state that they hardly function, and even after the problems were fixed there were still fundamental problems with the game that are only BARELY getting addressed?

[hazy sun]

i mean, it would scale lol, im not sure what the point is there

[tardy tree]

unlocked the AM40 skin

not bad

[fiery shoal]

as i said im talking in general, 2042 being a shit launch and barely a decent state now isnt a general statement. you cant cherry pick a single bad example and try to apply it as a whole

[arctic grove]

people prepay for crap they’ll never hold in their hand, is never completed, released and then use them as quinea pigs to work out the bugs then call them toxic when they’re mad about it… spoiled my arse

[eager spire]

Games launching in shit states and being fixed later is not cherry picking, it's a general thing.

[fiery shoal]

its ALSO not relevant to my original point of the value of games either

but i know youll say "we are talking about games though"

[eager spire]

It's relevant because a game that doesn't fucking work on launch is worthless.

[arctic grove]

it’ll never stop until us consumers stop giving them money

anyway how do we know how many ‘ribbons’ we have to get stuff on this crap

[fiery shoal]

100% be mad in these situations and call out the companies doing this... this isnt the same topic as consumers getting free major content that used to be paid for though..

[eager spire]

Besides, we're not even getting that much content compared to what we used to pay for. We're getting like, 1 map and a rework, maybe 2 a season?

[arctic grove]

stop buying costumes for your online barbie dolls!

[quiet shell]

Did I seriously unlock the Liquidator cosmetics in under 4 hours?

Fucking seriously?

[shell ermine]

Honestly the mode is super shitty and the rewards are super shitty so I wouldn't be surprised if it died almost immediately.

[arctic grove]

force them to put out quality games, don’t give them money until they do

[fiery shoal]

ill only buy cosmetics for titles i already put a shit load of hours into as a reward

which imo is how everyone should look at cosmetics

not this "cosmetics in a f2p is major content" mindset so many people seem to have

[arctic grove]

True. Buy the skins if you really like em and disregard the ones you dont like.

I tossed Splitgate some money for offering a kickass free game and a free battlepass

[fiery shoal]

it IS optional side flair

[eager spire]

I don't buy skins most of the time in general. Only time i ever did was in TF2, and even then that's not really for skins that's for Strange items.

[fiery shoal]

ive only paid for the base game of 2042, and you know what, my experience is exactly the same as people who bought skins or BP

[runic tulip]

Too all the losers who are camping in the new 16 player conquest mode, please go outside

[hazy sun]

i just got off back to back games, got all my ribbons, I dont think it died out

[kindred flint]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=battlefield+2042+direct+communication I got you

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna play some, be back

[signal forge]

Kek, thanks bro

[crude surge]

To the haters who can't use grenades and disturb cover, spend less time outside

[fiery shoal]

tldr, people complaining about completely optional and completely trivial things costing any sort of money need to reevaluate their priorities/lives

[kindred flint]

impressionable youth who are sucked into believing the BS thats being typed...oh well, if there were moderators online theyd perhaps mention that it wasnt a topic for the channel

[mental delta]

Chat is being so chaotic rn I like it

[runic tulip]

Ah yes, using grenades on A BIG ASS BUILDING

[mental delta]

It's Battlefield you have C4 and rocket launcher

[crude surge]

perhaps a grenade launcher

[runic tulip]

Perhaps its my teammate

[night basin]

I just realized I still have BF4 Gold Packs to open

Haven't played it in years thanks to Punk Nr. 1 banning me for no reason

[runic tulip]

Opps, sorry i meant...

TEAMMATES

[night basin]

Punkbuster and EAC are like the worst AntiCheats

Fairfight was good

[fiery shoal]

idk why i go rage mode when i see people try to playthe victim card because they didnt get enough free stuff to their liking

[mental delta]

Huh yeah ? I mean you're not the only one getting upset at other people right here and right now lol so it's ok, you're fine

[fiery shoal]

i always think back to when apex gamers were made at some skin costing 100 bucks.. like bruh... the game, all maps, all weapons, absolutely everything that matters is completely free and youre gonna complain that an optional and trivial skin is expensive?

of course no skin is worth 100 bucks, thats absolutely mad... but just dont buy it...

[eager spire]

I'm sorry, I just can't see the loss in quality and the increase in monetization methods in games recently as a positive.

[arctic grove]

that match was crap, we couldn’t get anywhere near an objective

how do you know your ribbons count?

[hazy sun]

they always count, updates in the liquidators menu

[crude surge]

I mean there wouldn't be an increase in monetization tactics if people weren't buying them

[mental delta]

What makes me upset is that they still buy it anyway lmao, like they complain and criticize the publisher's greedy but still buy all cosmetics they can

[crude surge]

Clearly it ain't making anyone that terribly mad if it keeps being profitable

[arctic grove]

where is the liquidators menu

[hazy sun]

when you click liquidators in main menu, the boxes on the right have progress bars under them

[fiery shoal]

loss in quality isnt across the board, of course there will be shit games to come out, always have, always will be. the increase in monetization is for trivial shit to offset MAJOR CONTENT... its not as face value simple as youre trying to suggest

[eager spire]

I know that but there's no accounting for people being stupid.

[runic tulip]

🐟⬅️🔥

[eager spire]

There's nothing that I can do about that, except be annoyed about it.

[fiery shoal]

RIGHT?! makes absolutely no sense xD

[arctic grove]

aha! thanks

[mental delta]

Exactly, everybody's complaining about cosmetics but a lot of mfs buy them while it's absolutely unnecessary and useless

[runic tulip]

But not everybody

[crude surge]

Like I don't buy battle passes if I don't actually want to progress

No reason to spend extra money

But people mad af about buying the battle pass and not getting enough cool stuff

[arctic grove]

I don’t mind tossin’ companies money if they earn it. I don’t think EA has earned it with this fudgecycle.

[fiery shoal]

thats the great thing about modern gaming, you dont HAVE to spend extra money to keep up with maps or weapons anymore

[eager spire]

yes it is across the board you're just not seeing it. What we're getting now in terms of "major content" is nothing compared to what we used to get. We're getting less for free and more paid shit.

[arctic grove]

Plus they lashed out at us and called us all toxic for the way they launched this fudge.

[mental delta]

Since the game released I've seen a lot of people here complaining about the skins and the overall game but when they send pictures in here you just figure out they bought the entire cosmetics store and still complain lmao

[mental delta]

A decent amount of people

[little lagoon]

How come every update brings rubberbanding back omg its awful.

[arctic grove]

it’s all gonna be a subsciption pass soon anyway, pay your subscription, get free games, free hahaha, and buy cosmetics. I don’t like it.

[fiery shoal]

lol the classic "you just dont see it" even though we have a ton of recent games that are considered best of all time and you can get major quality titles like apex, fortnite, fall guys, rocket league, completely free now. major content is maps and weapons, theres no quotation marks needed, if we get 1 map its still major content. no one said we get a lot of major content. we are getting less for free.. that only makes sense... we are getting more paid shit that is, again, completely trivial and optional...

interesting tidbit, to get the same amount of content we got in bfv but in a paid for model, you would have had to pay at least 45 dollars...

[runic tulip]

Yup

[eager spire]

That'd still be $45 wasted cause it's spent on BFV.

[fiery shoal]

what a meaningless and not even on topic response

[eager spire]

Fall Guys and Rocket League both used to be paid games.

hey you mentioned BFV

[fiery shoal]

we talked about this, i can talk about a very specific thing about a game, that doesnt mean you can talk about the overall game and be relevant

[shell ermine]

Major content is launching multiple maps with multiple weapons and multiple vehicles at once.

[fiery shoal]

"the cheese on my burger is spicy"
doesnt mean im talking about the burger in general

[fiery shoal]

major content is maps, weapons, specialists, etc

things that actually influence the game

2042 has gotten major content, just not a lot of it

[shell ermine]

I've got zero respect for anyone who buys anything from the boin shop with purchased boins

[runic tulip]

[arctic grove]

when all the games become part of a subscription, you’re gonna see quality keep going down the shitter and make you pay extra for maps and anything worth having. Nothing is free.

[shell ermine]

Major content is an expansion pack, like we had with BF3/4/1 or what we got with The Pacific update for BFV

[fiery shoal]

we are actively going away for paid for maps though...

[shell ermine]

Launching one map every 6 months isn't major

[fiery shoal]

whats in an expansion? maps and weapons...

[eager spire]

Nevermind the fact that the weapons we got, the ones not ported from Portal, were fundamentally broken for months, having the wrong headshot multiplier and having the wrong ammo count. It's not even like the money from the store is being spent on making things better.

[mental delta]

Lmao I understand, tbh a lot of people here do that and idk why they would even spend their money on useless shit in a dying game

[hearty flame]

cuz theyre hoping that by spending money ea wont kill 2042

[shell ermine]

We've had no major content drops with 2042

[fiery shoal]

major content is things like maps, weapons and "heros", minor content is skins, player cards, etc

BOTH are content, but theres a severely obvious difference in what type of content they are

[shell ermine]

Just minor dripfeed

[eager spire]

I don't know why, this game's never gonna get to where it should be.

[mental delta]

LMAO WTF ?! Dude there's absolutely no way anybody in here thinks that

[echo shale]

its almost 2023 and the source of the shots are still the eyes

i dont want to get killed by foreheads behind walls

[drowsy kindle]

My boy wtf are u saying

[arctic grove]

RIP Falk

[eager spire]

We've only got..what, 2 new maps? Because most of their time is being spent reworking all the base maps to be less shit?

[hearty flame]

Im sure theres someone that does

[drowsy kindle]

#putthisgameondiscount

[fiery shoal]

yes, we got 2 drops of major content. that is a shit amount of major content, its still major content though...

[hearty flame]

if ea doesnt see 2042 making money then 2042 will drop support as soon as they arent obligated to

[arctic grove]

They still feel the same

[shell ermine]

When the standard used to be dropping 3-4 maps at once, with 4-6 weapons at once, with 2-8 vehicles at once, dropping one map, 2 guns, and a "hero" isn't major.

[arctic grove]

Bro Dice keeps getting better

[mental delta]

Lmao you don't help saving a game by buying the most important amount of skins you can it makes no damn sense, if this game dies so easily it's only because it deserves to

[fiery shoal]

minor content are things like skins...

[drowsy kindle]

Fr

[arctic grove]

Yo they made the meme, let's forgive them

[runic tulip]

This new mode sucks

[fiery shoal]

that "standard" was also paid for...

[red notch]

Basically 4 maps to me, renewal and especially kaleidoscope had completely different layouts, flank routes, and objective areas

[drowsy kindle]

yeah now i love battlefield

[hearty flame]

To eas optics it helps. if they see 2042 making money then they are tempted to put in more support. more money= more support.

[shell ermine]

Frankly paid expansion packs was a better system.

It was the least exploitative monetization system so far.

[arctic grove]

up next “custom dog tags” for sale, get your hot fresh custom dog tags

[eager spire]

It's shit, and like i said, the new weapons they made that aren't from Portal, they were broken for months.

[fiery shoal]

still major content 🤷

[eager spire]

It's broken major content.

[fiery shoal]

to classy as major content has no consideration to quantity or quality

[shell ermine]

BFV had a much more robust and frequent content drop schedule and it too was free.

[lunar finch]

The correct way to play 2042

[eager spire]

What the fuck is the money being spent on if they can't even get fucking headshot multipliers and ammo counts right??

[lunar finch]

Why is discord breaking my audio on vids?

[arctic grove]

I want to buy Nike pump up army boots for my barbie doll.

[lunar finch]

The mobile discord beta is such a piece of shit

[eager spire]

What the fuck are we paying for?

[mental delta]

Yeah but what's the purpose ? The game had never fitted Dice or EA expectations anyway in terms of players count, even if people buy a lot of cosmetics the game will die by the end of season 4, and they would have just bought skins for nothing

[fiery shoal]

you know people shitted on bfv for the slow content too?

it took a while for bfv to ramp up major content

[lunar finch]

Coding is hard to be fair

[fiery shoal]

i think we had 1 map launch for like... 6 months at one point, and took a few months for another map to come

[eager spire]

well people shitted on BFV for a lot of other reasons, not just for content.

[hearty flame]

its just the hope some people have. ya know, more money than sense kinda people

[fiery shoal]

again, stay on topic

[eager spire]

I am well aware that coding is hard but come on, man.

[shell ermine]

It did, but 2042 has nowhere to ramp up too. We have the roadmap, we know we are only getting two more seasons. That's two more maps at best.

[red notch]

Mini mod moment

[lunar finch]

I mean raven said themselves the reason wz was so broken was because they had so much code they didnt know how to fix things

I can understand them fucking up minor things

[fiery shoal]

not even, this person just has a habit of taking an overall subject and making that the topic when its not

[mental delta]

It's sad cause they are just wasting their bucks for a game which will die in 6 months

[red notch]

They dumped on BF:V for bad performance and now it has the best performance of modern (BF4 and later) Battlefields

[sharp marten]

How’s your day friend : )

[hearty flame]

what can you do really. its their money, their loss. at least the game has an offline mode for them lol

[fiery shoal]

ehhh, id say bf1 still PERFORMS better

[little lagoon]

Yeah this rubberbanding is way too much right now

[eager spire]

Warzone is a larger game than 2042, though. It's an amalgamation of all the CoD games that came out during it's lifespan, of course the coding is gonna be a nightmare.

[lunar finch]

2042 is fairly large too

[shell ermine]

The gap between the first two post launch maps was 3 months. Panzerstorm and Mercury.

But they dropped something along the lines of 12 weapons between the first three Tides of War.

[eager spire]

I disagree i think BF4 is still the best in terms of performance.

[mental delta]

Lmao I can already see them complaining about offline mode being to shitty when the player count will drastically decrease

[arctic grove]

it’s your Internet, and modem, and router, and your cables, and everything except how they host the games lol

[eager spire]

Yeah but 2042 isn't content from 3 different games stuffed into a single game.

[lunar finch]

They do have portal

[hearty flame]

for some regions thats all they CAN play atm

[crude surge]

Portal is almost a standalone experience the way they package it tho

[eager spire]

Portal hardly counts.

[runic tulip]

the best

[arctic grove]

yes I love making a server in Portal that nobody can find and play with me all by lonely old self.

[red notch]

Definitely not, certain vehicle events cause huge frame dips

[mental delta]

Lmao what a good purchase they made

[echo shale]

they thought portal would replace server selector lmao

my god , make a lobby first

[hearty flame]

fell for the marketing

[shell ermine]

Just look at each of the Tides of War.

From the start more content over a shorter period of time than we are getting with 2042
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Tides_of_War

[mental delta]

By the end of season 4 this game will have not gotten a server browser

[mental delta]

We all did I think

[red notch]

It will have the equivalent once persistent portal comes into play

[calm bison]

Community managers have literally stated that a server browser is not possible for aow

[hearty flame]

well not me. I dipped as soon as i played the beta and saw hordes of people online saying "its an old build. its just a beta. itll be fixed" lol

[mental delta]

Lol why ?

[arctic grove]

Hey did you know you can change the server names to numbers ! woohoo

[calm bison]

I don’t really remember lol. Lossy has a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b-L5BZT4MI

[mental delta]

You're intelligent lol, I preordered it because I wanted to "support" Dice, it was the first time I preordered a game and also the last one

[cyan trout]

So the seasons are going well? I haven't logged in since before season 1 started

[calm bison]

Very well

[mental delta]

All Battlefield games before got server browser, it's kinda dumb this one doesn't

[red notch]

It’s possible but it’s not really worth the effort which would cause delays in things like specialist rework, plus you can do the same thing with 3 more clicks with portal persistence (yeah I’m really wanting that to launch soon)

[hearty flame]

after V, I put dice on the wait and see list and its paying off so far

[red notch]

Once persistent portal comes there won’t really be a reason to complain about server browser

[cyan trout]

🤙

[mental delta]

I liked BFV but they messed things up though, I expected them to make a good come back with this game

[copper fulcrum]

AOD is the only community that really tries to have a good 'community-run' server

[hearty flame]

ya V was ultimately ok. didnt quite live up to everything but it was bad (most of the time)

[arctic grove]

I would pay for a skin that removes Falks uniform.

[copper fulcrum]

You wanna see a naked old woman?

[arctic grove]

oh yeah baby

[shell ermine]

See with BFV the core game was there from the start. Gunplay, vehicle play, and teamplay was excellent. The problem was the decision to do unknown battles from the start and a lack of iconic content.

[red notch]

They did a lot of innovation

Some of it I love and is huge quality of life

But the internet enjoys being more negative

[arctic grove]

once you go silver you never go black

[copper fulcrum]

Just walk in on your mother in the shower

[arctic grove]

boom shock a locka

[shell ermine]

2042 the core game still isn't here

[arctic grove]

my mother in the shower oh man, you have a death wish?

[fiery shoal]

ayyy (im in AOD)

[arctic grove]

I have pitty on anyone sees my mother in the shower

pull your eyes out

[copper fulcrum]

Now this is the kind of interaction that I expected to come by when I joined this server

[fiery shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3525411

[mental delta]

Yup but it had some good improvements though like movements and squad system, but they just wanted to make things worse with a new horrible game which should have never released

[shell ermine]

Light theme

[red notch]

Come on, tell me that it isnt cool to drop a tank from the sky in seconds instead of constantly redeploying to check to see if one is available

[copper fulcrum]

I've stolen tanks that were called in before lol

[shell ermine]

The deployment tablet and the plus system are the two intact corn kernels in the log of shit

[red notch]

Mackay moment

[copper fulcrum]

Sundance moment

[hearty flame]

movement, squad system, reinforcements, building (most of the time), movable emplacements (when it worked).

not a fan of the upgrade system in V really

[red notch]

They could’ve done that with the new parachute system and called it a day NGL

[arctic grove]

I’m at 5 out of 100 ribbons, yawn

[lunar finch]

Spreading lies on the internet yet again, we all know 2042 is the best

[mental delta]

The first trailer really made them dirty and after that almost 90% of people didn't even look at what the finished game was looking like and they just decided to not get it

[shell ermine]

Specializations for weapons in BFV was perfection

[copper fulcrum]

Oh yeah you had to get a slow repair in order to get the HEAT-T rounds for the TIGER I... like wtf

As if the thing didn't fucking repair slow enough as is

[hearty flame]

attacking their playerbase sure didnt help either

[shell ermine]

Vehicle attrition was a great system too

[mental delta]

BF2042 just threw up all those ideas to get us more trend content like cosmetics or hyped gamemodes like HZ

[shell ermine]

To be frank the playerbase was being incredibly sexist and racist after the reveal trailer

[hearty flame]

ya the tree didnt really make too much sense. shouldve been slots really.

[copper fulcrum]

I wouldn't call "Stop hating on our decision of the inclusion of women" attacking their playerbase

[mental delta]

Lol what did they say I don't recall it ?

[copper fulcrum]

#OurBattlefield

[runic tulip]

Hardline number 1

[shell ermine]

Translation #whitemaleBattlefield.

[arctic grove]

I would pay for Spies Like Us skins

[runic tulip]

What?

[hearty flame]

"dont like it dont buy it" "how can i tell my daughter she cant play as a woman in ww2?" (come on dude was european, surely hed know more about the resistance forces fighting in ww2 than americans)
"right side of history" that kinda stuff

[copper fulcrum]

I think DICE used #OurBattlefield

[eager spire]

i thought all of that was funny. Just wish they made a better game.

[copper fulcrum]

and the haters used #NotOurBattlefield

[hearty flame]

all people were questioning was the robot arm and female soldiers, and not outta sexism cuz only russia really fielded female soldiers in specialist roles and no one else, and the faction on display were brits

[shell ermine]

A loud contingent of the Battlefield fanbase was being viciously racist and sexist after the reveal trailer showed women and black people in WW2

[mental delta]

Lmao I remember how they would pretend women were just present during great allied operations like battle of Normandy, they were surely in Resistance but not in conventional troops, and the "don't like it, don't buy it" thing just turned back onto them lmao

[shell ermine]

Oh right, yeah that was the tag

Basically wearing their flag on their sleeves if you know what I mean

[copper fulcrum]

WAIT, it was #EveryonesBattlefield that DICE used and the haters of course hated it

[arctic grove]

I played bfv last week and never seen any female soldiers

and you never see a female on a viking ship

[fiery shoal]

when the "acog" sight and prosthetic arm were fairly accurate...

[arctic grove]

So I guess the players figured that out by themselves

[hearty flame]

like if dice wanted to show forgotten battles then what about the battles in SE asia with japan? partisan forces in the baltics? battles in the ME? for all their crying about diversity and inclusion they sure dont do much with it

[shell ermine]

I'll ask a question I asked 4 years ago, so what?

Its a multiplayer game not a documentary

[hearty flame]

i mean if they wanted to do diversity and inclusion stuff they couldve at least put effort into it as seen in my comment above

[mental delta]

And WW2 settings aren't the type of things which would really introduce diversity and inclusion into BF let's be honest lol

[fiery shoal]

its kind of not fair to say "they didnt show forgotten battles because they didnt include X, Y and Z" when we are literally talking about a WORLD WAR that has some several hundred, if not thousand, battles...

[shell ermine]

Tens of thousands

[hearty flame]

i mean its kinda the perfect place to include that? its literally WORLD WAR 2. we had theaters all over the world. shine a spotlight on places people havent seen or heard about

[fiery shoal]

see my reply to you above..

missing battles in a world war is not a sign of anything but lack of resources...

[hearty flame]

i mean that was their stated goal, to show forgotten battles. and obviously they wanted diversity and inclusion stuff too. so i dont see why they couldnt have done that

[mental delta]

Wasn't the good type of settings to include women in Battlefield to me, they should have waited for BF2042

[fiery shoal]

but they DID show forgotten battles, thats not in question because they didnt show ALL the forgotten battles like you suggested...

[hearty flame]

i mean for russia sure. maybe a partisan/resistance faction

[hearty flame]

i know. im talking about how their diversity and inclusion spiel is skin deep really

[fiery shoal]

2, 4, 6, 8 are still even numbers even if its not all the even numbers...

[mental delta]

Yup but they just took bad decisions

[fiery shoal]

your example for why its skin deep is false though...

[arctic grove]

so this mode changes your operator every time you start a new match without tellin’ you\

[hearty flame]

ya i mean partisan/resistance faction for singleplayer wouldve also fit their stealth stuff better than other campaigns

[mental delta]

Campaign could have been better to me

[shell ermine]

Frankly I think the whole unknown battles thing was a mistake and the game should have launched with Americans, iconic weapons like the M1 Garand, and iconic battles like Carentan, Pointe du Hoc, Battle of the Bulge, Stalingrad, El Alamein, Iwo Jima, and Wake Island and then done one or two Unknown Battles Tides of War to have stuff like Rotterdam, Narvik, etc

[arctic grove]

Merica’ Falk yeah!

[shell ermine]

But even if they did iconic stuff from the start that would be no reason to not include women and people of color character customization from the start

No one who isn't a chud is going to care if a woman soldier is fighting in the Battle of the Bulge

[vocal adder]

What is unknown battles ?

[arctic grove]

No pats, no pats my laps

[eager spire]

if they do care, it would be very funny to watch them complain

[fiery shoal]

i dont think its good or bad that they didnt do the standard ww2 stuff

i just hate this idea from the consumers that since they didnt do the standard ww2 stuff that it doesnt COUNT as a ww2 game

like, thats kind of just dismissing millions of peoples of lives and their stories because its not dday or pearl harbor...

[shell ermine]

I mean the initial reason I waited to buy BFV was because of the lack of iconic stuff. I didn't get it until the Pacific expansion was announced.

[arctic grove]

reconstruct ole battles with new technology. Civil war with modern day muskets

[fiery shoal]

"your ww2 death doesnt count because it isnt "ww2" enough"

like wut

[copper fulcrum]

The lack of iconic stuff was kinda sad but hey, it is nice to have battles that don't really exist in other World War II pieces of entertainment

[drowsy shuttle]

avancys still op and feels like an assault rifle... k30 it seems its still great

[copper fulcrum]

Not many games have the battles that Battlefield V has

[shell ermine]

Wait no, my first trophy was May 13, 2019. Pacific wasn't announced until October 2019 right? What happened with BFV in May 2019?

[arctic grove]

I sleep with the K30

[copper fulcrum]

I think it was Battlefest which was an event between Chapter 4 and 5

[fiery shoal]

likely a very steep discount xD

[hallow sierra]

see i tell yall avancys wouldnt get a so called nerf

just look at the bsv

[drowsy shuttle]

Domination might be good when they put it 16v16

[shell ermine]

Regardless I fell in love with it immediately

[hallow sierra]

i havent use k30 cuz recoil and pbx is a thing

[fiery shoal]

i only care about gameplay.. in a game.. so bfv is my favorite bf title by far

[shell ermine]

I do wish I had gotten it sooner.

[fiery shoal]

all the core mechanics just FELT good

[drowsy shuttle]

i have to agree

[shell ermine]

Its my favorite one as well

Panzerstorm is one hell of a tank map.

[runic tulip]

Building fortifications is the best

[fiery shoal]

bfv didnt have a lot of gameplay mechanics like previous titles, it was a bit dumbed down, but the act of moving and shooting is so good

[arctic grove]

K30 with champion muzzle break = no recoil

[copper fulcrum]

I'm happy that suppression is just gone entirely though

[fiery shoal]

i actually really liked this and im sad it didnt come back

[arctic grove]

plus you can burst fire with it

[runic tulip]

Same

[vocal adder]

BFV is the best battlefield

[fiery shoal]

i thought a reason a lot of the maps were empty in 2042 was to support fortification

[runic tulip]

[eager spire]

Removing suppression = good
Random recoil in place of weapon spread = bad

[arctic grove]

ok, 3 matches later and I’m now at 7 ribbons, yawn

[fiery shoal]

its weird seeing people say they like bfv, i was shunned for saying that when it was the most recent title

[drowsy shuttle]

i mean if you ask me, i would remove the elite skins just to give more authenticity to the game... but other than that, i think it was pretty good...

[fiery shoal]

this is one of the "authentic" concerns that i can actually get behind

[runic tulip]

Dont get me started on soundtrack❤️❤️❤️

[vocal adder]

Suppression should return

[eager spire]

why

[shell ermine]

Fortifications, Crouch running, vehicle attrition, weapon emplacements, actual meaningful destruction...

So much 2042 dropped

[drowsy shuttle]

yep

[fiery shoal]

@drowsy shuttle i understand for the devs thats how they were making money for the live service though so 🤷

[copper fulcrum]

I really don't care about the inclusion of Elites but I think it was a good way of adding variety to the voice lines and cast of soldiers

[fiery shoal]

i still press the crouch run at times in 2042...

[fiery shoal]

oh, they were purely there as a source of money for the live service

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i get it... but i just rather not have them... but like i said, didn't bother me that much to the point of not playing the game... the rest was pretty good...

[vocal adder]

Still bothers me why that's not returned best fucking mechanic ever in battlefield and they ditched it

[fiery shoal]

crouch running?

[vocal adder]

Yeah

[fiery shoal]

if i had to guess it was probably "op" and just not worth figuring out to balance it

[eager spire]

do people really care that much about crouch running?

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah but now we got an Irish guy, a French girl and that's... where the added variety stops.

I think Siegfried or Wilhelm should've been an Italian and I think Steve Fischer should've been Canadian

[fiery shoal]

tbf it was like a 15% reduction in speed to make yourself like 2/3 smaller which means youre harder to hit

id say just nerf crouch running speed so its a worthwhile trade off, but eh

[fiery shoal]

did you not play bfv? it was such a good mechanic

crouch running through the yellow fields in arras crouch running was so cool

[copper fulcrum]

my knees

[vocal adder]

Even a dev in here agreed it should return or look into it haha

[fiery shoal]

so many times you would run through some short trenches and then get shot at to crouch run, just felt natural

[eager spire]

eh i don't see much of a point in having that in a game that also has sliding

[vocal adder]

BFV had sliding and that lmao

[fiery shoal]

because crouch running and sliding serve different purposes?

[eager spire]

yeah. my point.

[vocal adder]

Dude download BFV and you will see why its a good mechanic

[drowsy shuttle]

wait, whats the issue with crouch running? is not that is unrealistic...

[fiery shoal]

silver only said that they dont see the point in crouch running when theres also sliding in the game

[drowsy shuttle]

didn't bother me... but okay

[eager spire]

I just don't get what the big deal is.

[fiery shoal]

it was just a fun mehanic

[cyan trout]

Saw a group of two go 150 and 10 by staggering the crouch run and slide. They were basically invincible

[vocal adder]

Fun mechanic and also saves your life like crazy

[fiery shoal]

people like fun mechanics, go figure

[drowsy shuttle]

for me BF5 moviment was top notch.. i even used to say to my friends, just running and walking around in BFV was satisfying enough lol.... to be fair i was coming from pubg, so yeah... almost anything would feel top notch compared to pubg... but was still awesome

[eager spire]

fair enough

[fiery shoal]

i got some 700 hours in pubg, the most i have that is actually tracked

[vocal adder]

BFV movement is just beautiful imagine that with 2042 lovely

[eager spire]

I still think the whole spread to recoil thing is bullshit though.

[drowsy shuttle]

now the question is, should i play with Jason Voorhees as sundance or not?

cause that was the first thing i thought when i saw the sundance skin

in case people don't know what im talking about, is character from friday the 13th

[shell ermine]

They look like realistic Shy Guys

[arctic grove]

Why is nobody reviving 😡😭

[copper fulcrum]

No one revives in Battlefield

[tired wolf]

so burnt out on that new mode. couple more ribbons and I'm done all the challenges. I'm gonna lose my mind tho, because these teams are always so stacked. out of my 8 teammates, 5 just snipe and look at eachothers guns or somethin back at spawn, and then 2 dudes will be just watch each other go around a corner to die, one by one. oblivious.

[shell ermine]

Except in BFV

8v8 was a dumb choice

[tired wolf]

and apparently noone uses headphones or something, or $10 logitech speakers from 2001

because noone hears anyone running around them. it's insane

[shell ermine]

Should've given each side armored vehicles like Squad Conquest in BC2

[undone bone]

I can attest to the fact that I never use a headset when gaming on console.

And since non-crossplay queue doesn't exist all y'all PC players get us clueless console players lol

[shell ermine]

I only use a headset when I need to be quiet, like if my wife is in the room watching something on the TV

Frankly I use my headset more for singleplayer games than multiplayer games

[arctic grove]

Why clueless

[tired wolf]

were different type of gamers. I've been using a headset since my semi-pro league days playing CS 1.6

[kindred flint]

have you seen the "crazy kill clips" on reddit?

[undone bone]

Because I don't crank my TV to insane volume levels just to hear 1 person's footstep in a 128 player lobby.

[tired wolf]

I rely so much on sound

[kindred flint]

half the time people look like bots

[shell ermine]

I hear footsteps just fine with my speakers, though I do play at a desk on a monitor with stereo speakers right there

[arctic grove]

Headset?

[undone bone]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-spider-man-i-uh-i-dont-have-one-scarlet-spider-ben-reilly-i-dont-have-one-gif-17175952

[tired wolf]

the skill gap is just hilarious in this mode because you get someone who knows what they're doing with a mouse/keyboard and 2 brain cells and they dominate. It's so one-sided because most of the people playing 2042 are not CoD players or fast-paced FPS players

[arctic grove]

😭

[shell ermine]

If you aren't using the meta in this 8v8 trash you lose

[tired wolf]

its just a different time. it aint the early 2000's anymore

[shell ermine]

So Avancys, Scar, AM40, M5A3, 12 Auto

[arctic grove]

Botsfield 2042

[shell ermine]

Battlefield has never excelled at small modes

Its why they keep trying to force Domination

We don't want it

When it isn't forced no one plays it

[tired wolf]

yea it's not working. that's what CoD is for

[tired wolf]

and I love 6v6 CoD

but this next CoD is trying to be Battlefield now so i cant win

[undone bone]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-e-wall-e-mo-pixar-robotjanitor-gif-25211197

[wide shore]

If you get spawn trapped on this new mode on renewal. Good luck

[shell ermine]

I've kinda grown out of 6v6 COD. The only time I enjoyed it in the Beta was in the Third Person mode. I did love Ground War though

[tired wolf]

the 50% of the player bases that essentially want their game to become the competitor's game should just go make their own games

[shell ermine]

I think COD does big battles better than Battlefield does small modes

[wide shore]

Close quarters dlc

[fiery shoal]

or... go play the competitors game

[tired wolf]

not this cycle, because like I said they are both trying to be the other right now.

[shell ermine]

I mean COD had a legacy of big battles too with the large scale objective modes with vehicles in COD2 and 3

[fiery shoal]

true, just saying there are plenty of options for consumers, complaining about that aspect is just weird imo

[shell ermine]

Battlefield's only launching point for small stuff was with the Close Quarters DLC in BF3

[drowsy shuttle]

bfv had 8v8 domination game mode too iirc... and kinda sucks.. 16vs16 is the sweet spot

[solid imp]

I want ziba tower back 😦

[shell ermine]

Domination was removed from BFV because no one played it

[tired wolf]

I don't know why people weren't happy with the game they chose to play, but Battlefield players wanted a faster game with 2042, and CoD people wanted a slower game with MW22

[shell ermine]

Grind was time limited (though that was 64p iirc)

[shell ermine]

Battlefield players wanted a faster game with 2042

Uh no, who told you these lies?

[tired wolf]

CoD people want CoD to be like Insurgency Sandstorm or RB6 this cycle, and Battlefield fans wanted 2042 to be faster

[drowsy shuttle]

i used to play... but the best mode they removed and for me will always be the best game mode was Frontlines... i wish more people understood and liked Frontlines.

[tired wolf]

literally verbatim what people demanded in the playtest forums almost 2 years ago lol

[fiery shoal]

i will say i think most bf fans wanted bf4 remake or bfv but semi future

[tired wolf]

remember how fast the movement was in the playtest 2 summers ago?

[arctic grove]

Man

[fiery shoal]

which bfv is probably one of the faster titles

[shell ermine]

As someone who has been playing both series for the better part of 20 years I can say authoritatively that CODMW2 2022 is much closer to the original three pre-COD4 CODs than anything else since COD4.

[arctic grove]

I wish I could get regular sooner

[tired wolf]

DICE nerfed the player movement during the playtest before the beta, this was meant to be a faster, CoD-like Battlefield

that's why they have specialists, it's moving to "Heroes" next iteration

this was meant to be a stepping stone

[shell ermine]

What kind of dumbasses did DICE invite to the playtest?

[drowsy shuttle]

candy crush players

[tired wolf]

anyone who had 2+ years of Battlefield in their EA profile, and those who signed up to be playtesters

[steady girder]

would they still can make next bf?

after 2042

[tired wolf]

its in development as we speak

[shell ermine]

They want one out for FY2023

[arctic grove]

I Wonder what it’s gonna be like

[tired wolf]

stuff is already out there on it

[arctic grove]

I Hope they bring back T1’s

[steady girder]

dice also wonders

[drowsy shuttle]

i think they are working in a campaign for bf 2042 and not a new battlefield? am i wrong?

[arctic grove]

and the movement

[tired wolf]

look up who's making it tho

[arctic grove]

Who’s making it?

[tired wolf]

good people

[shell ermine]

I hope Zampella can realign Battlefield back to its roots. But I don't have any faith.

[arctic grove]

What studio

[tired wolf]

I don't expect it to be anything like 2042 or BFV

it's probably not going to suck whatever it is

[arctic grove]

man I’m gonna miss 2042 ngl

[tired wolf]

it might not feel like "Battlefield" tho for a lot of people.

[shell ermine]

BFV ended as a fantastic (imo best) Battlefield game, and they threw out everything from it that made it great

[arctic grove]

Did you guys know In early 2012, EA was voted the worst company in the whole of the United States in a poll conducted by The Consumerist. In 2013, EA won that award again

[tired wolf]

bro they've been throwing out good ideas for 20 years lmaoo

whatre you on

[shell ermine]

Its never been as egregious except for the jump from 2142 to BF3

Though a lot of stuff was crawled back with BF4

[drowsy shuttle]

i guess DrDisrespect is not the only Two Time.

[shell ermine]

Commander in particular

[tired wolf]

i just hope they don't spend all their time focused on narrative and background storytelling, and more on core gameplay and mechanics. It's a game. It's also not a game we ever took seriously because it's pure arcade chaos and just about how many bodies you can throw at a flag until you cap it.

[arctic grove]

Wdym lol

[tired wolf]

god i miss that

[arctic grove]

BF 2142 concept was cool

[shell ermine]

Didn't he record a minor in a bathroom at E3 or something?

[tired wolf]

used to go to my friends house and use his moms iPad to run the commander app and he'd be on his PC playing in 1st person. I'd be his commander in whatever server. it was awesome. I'd drop him ammo and stuff haha

[arctic grove]

What did dr dis do lol

[drowsy shuttle]

i have no idea

[arctic grove]

where’s the cool people in 2042 chat tonight

[shell ermine]

Let's be brutally honest though, the pre-BF3 Battlefield games were all pretty clunky and in many ways obtuse and uninviting games to play

[drowsy shuttle]

there are no cool people in discord... besides me ofc

[arctic grove]

no

[shell ermine]

Not counting the Bad Company games

[tired wolf]

they were PC games

[arctic grove]

So

[tired wolf]

that's probably 90% why tho

you had a UI made for a mouse

it was more complex, more options

[shell ermine]

Battlefield 2: Modern Combat was a good game, but it too didn't get super popular.

[arctic grove]

Wot about 2142

[shell ermine]

Battlefield really didn't hit the mainstream until BC2 and BF3.

[drowsy shuttle]

i think bf3 was the hit... altough i never played it.. wasn't only for consoles?

[tired wolf]

i know :/ and since then I've patiently waited for the mainstream to be ready for DICE to re-release more complex mechanics again.

[shell ermine]

They never will

[arctic grove]

no

It’s on pc

[drowsy shuttle]

ah ok

[shell ermine]

The philosophy isn't there and the talent isn't there

[tired wolf]

nah i think it came out for PC same time, but consoles made it a hit because a lot of people played Battlefield for the 1st time with that title

[shell ermine]

At best we can maybe see something on the level of BFV, which frankly isn't a bad thing

[tired wolf]

half of them are making that game called "The Finals"...it's pretty neat and there's a playtest going on Steam right now, I'd check it out.

[sharp marten]

BFV was getting good at its last dlc

[drowsy shuttle]

the pacific turned the game around a bit... but was too late

[shell ermine]

Nah, I don't care about anything Embark is putting out unless it's a Battlefield competitor.

The Finals and ARC Raiders are not

[tired wolf]

I agree, Pacific was actually pretty fun for a minute. Most beautiful visuals I've seen, also....but again, it's not what's important.

[shell ermine]

Even after The Pacific we got more weapons and two more fantastic maps.

Provence and Al Marj.

[sharp marten]

Tbh I’m all in for future support for 2042 but when we get our next bf they’ll need to knock it out of the park I’m talking good campaign and multiplayer

[tired wolf]

Never played any of their other stuff, but they are former DICE devs...anyway, yea most of them are retired. My one friend who co-created Desert Combat mod for 1942 got hired by DICE and then let go, now he's the lead combat designer* for WoW lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

in 2 or 3 years of development? i doubt it...

but i hope im wrong

[sharp marten]

I mean you never know

I just hope to god it’s not another ww2 or 1 game god that genre is so fucking over used

[drowsy shuttle]

i really want a good modern warfare campaign... more than multiplayer... im getting tired of multiplayer... i might actually buy MW2 - in a sale - just for the campaign

[tired wolf]

i think that was just a special moment in time, where you had a new emerging platform, you had a fully-modable game, creative passionate devs, and players who were ready for that type of complexity. Remember, back in 2003-ish you had to build your PC so you were already cutting out 90% of the casuals who eat Doritos while playing 20ft from their 70" TV

[shell ermine]

Trauma Studios went on to make Frontlines Fuels of War, which by all accounts was a fantastic Battlefield competitor but it came out at the wrong time on the wrong platforms and didn't take off

[tired wolf]

it was bad. I love Holinka, he was in our BF clan but that was bad

[shell ermine]

Conceptually fantastic anyway

[sharp marten]

I could go for a planet side 3 for Xbox that would be a huge bf competitor

[tired wolf]

yea we were all stoked because he was making it, also our clan kinda dropped out of comp with Battlefield 2

so we wanted something new

but I think they got short-strawed with the Unreal engine at that time.

little support from Unreal

errr Epic

[shell ermine]

I wish Warhawk had gotten more love

[tired wolf]

never played that

[shell ermine]

Fantastic large scale objective based game with tons of air and ground vehicle combat that came out in like 2007 on the PS3.

[tired wolf]

you remember Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising?

came out in 2004

[crude surge]

The only real battlefield competition to me is planetside tbh

[arctic grove]

Bunch of old people in the chat tonight

[tired wolf]

it was before Battlefield 2 came out, you had large-scale battles with vehicles and aircraft with time of day changes. time of day changes. time of day changes. in 2004....in 2004... IN 2004

[tired wolf]

been playing FPS for longer than some have been alive lmao

[shell ermine]

I remember Joint Ops. It was too close to milsim for me.

[arctic grove]

How long

[shell ermine]

Same with Red Orchestra and Arma

If I wanted something serious I would play SOCOM

[tired wolf]

20 years on PC. I'm 34

[tired wolf]

SOCOM was dope...I think that was my 1st time using a mic online

[arctic grove]

damnnnn

U old

[steady girder]

damn

[tired wolf]

damn right

[steady girder]

u yong

[tired wolf]

know it and respect it

lmao jp

[arctic grove]

Correct I am

[shell ermine]

Been playing online shooters since like 2002

[arctic grove]

I’m still a minor LOL

[tired wolf]

hell yea

[steady girder]

what a young kid

[arctic grove]

hush

[steady girder]

how old are you

[tired wolf]

welcome to the circus!

[arctic grove]

I don’t control DOB

[arctic grove]

and why would I tell you that

[tired wolf]

yea lets not be ageist

[crude surge]

Man y'all mentioned Arma I forgot how many hours I spent on Arma

[arctic grove]

what does that even mean

[steady girder]

cuz i wanna know

[tired wolf]

"characterized by or showing prejudice or discrimination on the grounds of a person's age."

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

interesting

[tired wolf]

i dont really care i think it's hilarious but I was also raised in NJ where people have a thicker skin

i am old, and getting older

this is life

[steady girder]

where's NJ

[tired wolf]

united states

[steady girder]

i was raised in ccp

[tired wolf]

oof. you out? you eating well?

[solid imp]

37 here and I think BF2 was my first time using a mic online lol

[tired wolf]

was it screaming at the Commander to pay attention?

[steady girder]

we're enemies

not out

[solid imp]

YES most probably

[steady girder]

i was grown up here

[shell ermine]

So when you see some of us rag on how multiplayer games are designed and monetized today it's because we remember how it was before the Dark Times, before the Empire mtx.

[tired wolf]

people aren't enemies, governments are. I love Chinese people and culture

[steady girder]

well

[tired wolf]

oh yea, and remember when I rag on dumb game mechanics or the lack of good ones remember we've seen it

[steady girder]

my government tells me US is bad

[arctic grove]

Not true

[tired wolf]

yea my Government told me eggs and milk were bad too

so it doesn't mean much lmao

[steady girder]

do you believe it?

[arctic grove]

your government just hates the US

[solid imp]

But nothing beats when a friend agreed to meet you at the movies and was 5 minutes late you assumed his car was on fire in a ditch

[steady girder]

i think my government also hates me

[tired wolf]

of course not, lmao I think critically

[shell ermine]

We've lived through the Golden Age of multiplayer games and are hoping a Renaissance emerges one day soon

[arctic grove]

yes

[tired wolf]

same here man

[arctic grove]

And now all you do is complain

[tired wolf]

look at what games were released in 2004....it's insane

[steady girder]

they said it'll be different capitalism

turns out it's just like america

[shell ermine]

Like man almost every multiplayer game on the PlayStation 2 had a server browser and player hosted dedicated servers and server rentals.

The best we've had with Battlefield in 15 years has been crappy virtual servers

[tired wolf]

i think devs just overthink every element nowadays

i mean, they need to justify all those hires

of UI designers and animators

[shell ermine]

I used to pay $60 a year for a server for Star Wars Battlefront II on the PS2 from Art of War Central. And I could do whatever I wanted with it, server-side mods were super popular at the time

[tired wolf]

oh hell yea

yea i remember our clan had our own server, like a home base. I miss that

[full marsh]

Please let us play normal conquest for event, tf is this tactical conquest crap

[tired wolf]

have you been dominated by a stacked team yet?

[full marsh]

Nope lol

[tired wolf]

alright im gonna go back to playing. nice chattin with ya'll tho

[full marsh]

Like 15-2 ish every round, just boring

[tired wolf]

yea it's kinda meh. just doing it for the cosmetics

[steady girder]

me waiting for mw2 gets lunch

[full marsh]

ew, cod

[tired wolf]

the description sounded wayy cooler and tricked me. I thought you squad up with 4 people and raid open servers going after specific players, like high-score sweats. You just have your own squad, like a 3rd team.

or you have to complete an objective on your own, just the 4 of you

[full marsh]

that sounds dope lol

[tired wolf]

going after a specific player would come off as "toxic" so I'll meet DICE halfway

[full marsh]

people can come after in me in normal conquest all they want

[tired wolf]

people want more social interaction, that's why Warzone is bringing back Proximity chat. Social interaction creates investment in the community, investment in your online identity. It's what keeps player retention high and churn low.

[full marsh]

people don't use mics anymore, that wont happen haha

people only use mics now to talk shit

[tired wolf]

lol I was Jedi in Star Wars Galaxies, literally logging on was an adrenaline rush. Constantly hunted by real-player Bounty Hunters. I love it

[wide shore]

Nobody ever used mics on battlefield on console.

[dapper river]

man this event is kinda mid

do better dice

[wide shore]

Kinda? It’s incredibly mid

It’s just an excuse to sell limited time cosmetics

[full marsh]

i mean those shop cosmetics are pretty dope

[dapper river]

monetized limited time cosmetics are stupid in any game

[wide shore]

You get fucking planets being blown up in other games events. In this one you get 5 bundles that are $60 combined.

Yeehaw

[dapper river]

well at least it's not as bad as halo

[wide shore]

I like 2042, I really do. But this event is the most “we don’t give a fuck” thing ever.

[dapper river]

yeah

[dark mural]

Especially in a game you have to buy. I forgot for a second this wasn't a F2P game when looking at the event and the shop.

[wide shore]

There’s a reason other games have such a successful monetization market. Constant updates, constant new content, and engaging events. DICE has delivered none of this at all

[full marsh]

We're aware, go read a book or something