battlefield-2042

[echo shale]

your monitor doesnt support HDR , adaptive contrast , which is very old btw
and even worse have a contrast of a CRT
i dont think its a game problem

[slate meadow]

Yeah I'm getting that feeling

[echo shale]

its just your monitors contrast is off

i will jump in BF1 after i finish the 517 drivers

[slate meadow]

I understand what his saying because bf1 and even bf2042 do have this issue but it's HDR related if he has HDR off he shouldn't be getting the issue

[eager spire]

https://youtu.be/a1_RJ-cHK8I?t=966 I am just going to post this, timestamped to the section where the person talks about the exact issue i'm talking about. I have it on good authority that this person has a WAY better monitor than I do.

[slate meadow]

That's crazy I just watched this video whilst we was talking about it seems like it's linked to the fact people play at high brightness to see in the nightmaps but it then makes the day maps blinding on my monitor I have a black level setting that brightens up blacks so you can see in dark areas without having to have brightness above 30%

[eager spire]

day maps look fine most of the time, actually, even on 100% brightness. It's just looking out of windows that is a pain in the ass.

And it shouldn't be.

[echo shale]

Oh boy , dont i love premium query and loading times in BF1

5-10mins of pain

Looks like i need to drop 100$ on a 2Tb nvme stick

[obsidian elk]

Does anyone else feel like guns in 2042 just aren't lethal enough? Up close they're actually fine, but at distances they really fall off. I understand why though. It's to facilitate the huge maps and the vehicular gameplay. It wouldn't be fun to get snapshotted across the map when you're just trying to ride your jeep to the objective.

However, I play games like CoD and the guns feel incredibly good to me. I struggle to find a weapon in 2042 that just feels right to me. It used to be the AS VAL but they nerfed it a lot. Admittedly it was pretty strong, probably too strong, but I feel like a weapon doesn't need to be overpowered for me to enjoy it. I just...haven't found the one yet.

[hexed mango]

i mean guns like avancys, sfar and svk and dm7 work well at medium+ ranges

and any sniper

[obsidian elk]

I have been sitting on the DM7 for the most part

It's the closest to feeling just right for me

after the as val nerfs

[upbeat sand]

If you want lethal

Ntw

I'll instakill people unless they have armour

[eager spire]

how was the AS VAL nerfed?

[hexed mango]

i mean bsv is still a good gun

[obsidian elk]

I enjoy the sfar, but the handling ruins the weapon for me personally

[echo shale]

Holy shit its been 20mins on a loading screen iam giving up

[upbeat sand]

Less damage at range and non subsonic has projectiles now

[obsidian elk]

DM7 hits the battle-rifle sweet spot for me. I try to mod the SFAR to suit a similar role but every time it just ends up having insane recoil without enough damage to make it worth it.

[upbeat sand]

And increased full auto recoil

[obsidian elk]

I think part of my issues with recoil have to do with the fact that I play on 55 FOV so the weapon bounces a lot more relative to higher FOV's.

It's also the FOV that is most comfortable for me though

[eager spire]

yeah but it also has permanent "being off the radar" as a perk and the increased full auto recoil isn't going to matter to anyone that either doesn't use the full auto mode or can control the mostly vertical recoil the gun has.

[hexed mango]

do you use the fov ads setting

[upbeat sand]

I say you should try 90 fov then turn on ads fov

It'll lower recoil

[obsidian elk]

No I don't use that setting, I didn't even know it existed

I'll take a look at it, thanks

[eager spire]

there is no reason to not use the ADS FOV scaling option

[upbeat sand]

It's under fov I think

[eager spire]

Literally no reason, honestly it should just be default.

[obsidian elk]

D-

d-do...

d-do you have your pronouns in your username

????????

[upbeat sand]

It'll basically zoom to the same amount as your current fov so there isn't a sudden zwoop when you ads

[eager spire]

did you just notice

[obsidian elk]

LMAO

[upbeat sand]

What's wrong with dat?

[obsidian elk]

And the weapon bounces less too?

[upbeat sand]

It makes things easier

[upbeat sand]

Yes

[obsidian elk]

True

Alright thanks guys. I'll give it a shot

no pun intended

-wooshes away stealthily-

[obsidian elk]

LOL

[hexed mango]

also if you’re curious to the damage over distance of guns, you can always refer to https://sym.gg

[next onyx]

Already pinned it you heathen!

[granite island]

No

Why is the medic running away from me

You are literally 1m away from me

NOO

[loud narwhal]

hello

i need help with something

i reached mastery 4 with angel, yet the vulturii skin is still locked for me

[dire quest]

Anyone interested in conquest small maps(16v16) but 128 players? Look for Domination 128 Players

Server is live

[fierce sail]

Greg Gaming

[fierce sail]

Live server?

Cringe

[granite island]

I almost have the sfar T2

[loud narwhal]

anyone knows whats up?

[next onyx]

There's a weird unlock bug.

Should eventually unlock.

[loud narwhal]

oh alright

[fossil lantern]

Is dice planning on fixing 2042 fully or are they just gonna dump it?

[next onyx]

We have no idea.

[rocky kraken]

id say it would be worth it to go until like season 6 for them

but

idk

[proud gorge]

@hexed mango @arctic grove gaming?

[fossil lantern]

Some love letter to the fans

It's more like a shit post for the fans

[next onyx]

If they had actual time to work on the game it wouldn't have been such a fuck up.

[rocky kraken]

tru

well

specialists still would be in the game

[next onyx]

Game would have been better polished around it.

People could focus on the actual gameplay instead of fighting the technical issues.

[echo shale]

I just came back

why the F every weapons accuracy have been nerfed to hell

everyone running with DMRs

[next onyx]

Nerfed?

Give the SCAR a look.

[echo shale]

Like long range accuracy and stability

[remote kiln]

cause they were all death beams which was stupid lol

[next onyx]

The weapons are about the same, If not better.

[remote kiln]

you're a bit late

[next onyx]

Unless you're talking about that patch that super buffed every weapon.

[echo shale]

Now everyone running with DMRs and sniper rifles

[next onyx]

Give the SCAR a go. You can four hit kill people out to 74 metres.

Which is extremely good for an AR.

[remote kiln]

the most popular weapon is the avancys not a sniper rifle

so dunno where you're getting this from

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I forgot about the Avancys despite it being everywhere.

[spiral hornet]

Considering buying 2042 after I just got BF1, is it worth buying?

[next onyx]

What platform?

[spiral hornet]

PS4

[next onyx]

If you're going to get 2042. Get it digitally.

[echo shale]

Is there something ism missing?

[next onyx]

I would advise to wait until your get a ps5 because the ps4 and xbox one struggle to play 2042.

[next onyx]

?

[echo shale]

When did they add the scar

[remote kiln]

ages ago

[upbeat sand]

Sfar m gl was at launch

[next onyx]

It was released at uh... Release.

But it had a different damage model.

22-22.

Now it does 28 - 22.

[eager spire]

what do you mean "fixing 2042 fully"? Cause, I feel like that might be a fairly subjective thing.

[upbeat sand]

I remember using it at launch and i blamed the vehicles when I jumped in and got to ads glitch

[spiral hornet]

Yeah you’re prolly right, I’m gonna stick with BF1 for now.

[echo shale]

oh yeah

looks like i barely have any gameplay on it

[rocky kraken]

there is more cover in hourglass spawn than the entire rest of the map

[remote kiln]

you mean the stadium?

[echo shale]

me praying to all gods that i dont get the blackscreen glitch after a match

[fossil lantern]

I mean add actual content, add the destruction they promised us, fix the performance issues, nerf some of the rockets slightly, make the movement smooth and not a clunky and make the maps look like war not a polished old city

[echo shale]

make matchmaking carry like every other game in existence

braincells my people

[remote kiln]

destruction was never promised by DICE, performance was fixed months ago

[fossil lantern]

perf was not fixed lol

[remote kiln]

yes, it was

there was an entire shader cache change on PC universally

[echo shale]

perf is still trash , but i dont think they can do much

[fossil lantern]

they should tone the maps down

[remote kiln]

if you're talking about 128 players on the big maps, that's kinda not possible to fix

[fossil lantern]

I mean 64 playerss the maps should be a bit smaller

[remote kiln]

it performs absolutely fine on 64

[fossil lantern]

I still want the giant flying area for jets and heli's and stuff but make it less of a running sim and more of a war your fighting

[eager spire]

Add actual content
Don't know what you mean by that
Add the destruction they promised us
Source?
Fix the performance issues
unlikely to ever happen, at least not to the degree you likely want it to
Nerf some of the rockets slightly
what's wrong with them
Make the movement smooth and not a clunky
Some would say the movement's fine, i guess
Make the maps look like war not a polished old city
Sounds like a tall order for a post launch update, especially considering they're already spending a lot of time trying to rework the maps to have better layouts.

[arctic grove]

add actual content like more than one map every 3-6 months

[fossil lantern]

It's my opinion if you don't like it leave

[eager spire]

hey

i'm just laying out my thoughts here

[next onyx]

They're just pointing out what you said.

[eager spire]

if you don't like that you can leave.

[remote kiln]

the development team have been clear there will not be more than one map per season

[arctic grove]

previous battlefield games released large map packs, and I’d prefer paying for them rather than waiting for one shitty map

[remote kiln]

had the base maps not needed to be reworked, things would be otherwise

[arctic grove]

that I then have to play 6000 times before the next season drops

[next onyx]

With premium we got more maps at least yes and it would be nice if they had that ability.

They're already held up fixing the maps because of the poor state that they were released in.

[arctic grove]

I would much rather prefer paying for stuff then waiting six months for ONE MAP

[arctic grove]

The thing is it shouldn’t have been released

[remote kiln]

a season is 3 months not 6

[hexed mango]

sure sure

i was in the shower

[next onyx]

This game was rushed.

[hexed mango]

unfortunately so

[arctic grove]

congrats mate you really got me there, that makes it totally right

[next onyx]

it's no surprise things are the way they are.

[eager spire]

But Premium introduced it's own issues, it was not a flawless system, mainly in the plain fact that not everyone is going to be able to afford the DLC's as they release, nor is everyone going to be willing to spend the extra money on Premium before any of the content is out.

[hexed mango]

neither service is perfect

[remote kiln]

I don't know what you're saying, you said 6, it was wrong, man up

[eager spire]

And depending on the quality of the content, some people might not even be willing to do that even after it's out.

[arctic grove]

champ do you want 5 maps and pay a little more or one

[next onyx]

Not everyone will be willing to spend money.

[arctic grove]

Don’t care no excuse

5 maps over 1 any day

[remote kiln]

"a little more" is not $60 lol

[arctic grove]

Guns that are balanced and fun to play any day

[eager spire]

I would not have paid for most of BF4's DLC. I only have it cause i literally got it for free from On The House.

[next onyx]

it is an excuse because not everyone has the funds to buy these map packs.

[remote kiln]

it's an entire cost of a game

[arctic grove]

And? It worked fine before

[next onyx]

Both system have their merits.

[arctic grove]

And as I said, a bit of money for five maps is a hell of a lot better than one

[hexed mango]

tbh in a far perfect world, we wouldnt have the rushed cosmetics of a battlepass, just to give some fluff to "content"
but rather we would get a functioning game, good mechanics, good content, etc, and have new content be unlocked through progression and playing, rather than purchase

i personally do not love a battle pass system mainly cause all the time a game spent working on cosmetics could maybe have been spent working on making the game better. the good side is that content is free, so that players can play and enjoy.

[remote kiln]

no it didn't half the dlcs were dead less than a year after they launched

[eager spire]

Did you miss my entire statement about the issues Premium had?

[remote kiln]

complaints were rife back in those days of maps and servers being segregated wtf are you talking about

[arctic grove]

That’s your problem champ. I’d much rather pay than get a half assed content pack

[remote kiln]

it was never fine

[hexed mango]

exactly this is another issue with content locked behind paying

[arctic grove]

Look mate, if you wanna play the same map for weeks on end till the next season comes out, be my guest

[rocky kraken]

WHy did the BOW get ANERF

[hexed mango]

it did?

[next onyx]

The crossbow got a nerf?

[eager spire]

In concept it was fine, but in practice, it was an imperfect system.

[rocky kraken]

bro

[remote kiln]

you did it in 3 and 4, I'm sure you can suffer through it again with 2042

[rocky kraken]

it takes like 3 bodies now

like wtf

[next onyx]

What are you on about.

[arctic grove]

at least the content was decent

[hexed mango]

what arrow type?

and what range

[arctic grove]

yeah 4 was a mess on release

[remote kiln]

the content that launched months after the game came out?

almost like you forget history

[rocky kraken]

the normal one

[arctic grove]

that doesn’t give 2042 an excuse to be a mess too

[rocky kraken]

like

[eager spire]

No it doesn't

[hexed mango]

the only documented change to the ghostmaker is "The Ghostmaker R10's attachments are now displayed on Kill Cards"

[rocky kraken]

20 m

well

[eager spire]

But I don't think anyone was excusing 2042 for that.

[rocky kraken]

didnt it get a nerf a few updates ago

[arctic grove]

there was a decent amount of functional maps then though

some actual cover

[remote kiln]

no, there wasnt

[arctic grove]

and not me trying to get my 20 k steps every life

[hexed mango]

golmund has a lot of cover sure, if you count trees (and there really arent that many trees)

[remote kiln]

I'm not sure how much you've forgotten exactly but the maps were as broken as the game itself

[arctic grove]

trees don’t really count

[hexed mango]

exactly.

[remote kiln]

because the game didn't fucking function lol

[hexed mango]

silk road 🤮

[arctic grove]

And they still made it decent after a while

[hexed mango]

silk road is somehow worse than hourglass

[arctic grove]

They weren’t playing catch-up for over a year and releasing one map at a time

[remote kiln]

they were playing catch-up for 4 after a year

[eager spire]

Just looked it up, BF4 with Premium is like $40 on Steam right now. Of course, you can't buy it without Premium, but frankly, I feel like that's a bit much for what people actually run in terms of DLC for this game.

[remote kiln]

did you even play the game?

the CTE, was 2 years after the game launched

[hexed mango]

@rocky kraken i still dont see any nerfs (2.0)

[eager spire]

it's the same for BF1 as well. BFV is $50.

[rocky kraken]

welp

its my imagination

[hexed mango]

and this is the only mention in 1.2

[arctic grove]

at least the first dlc only took two months champion

and had some actual content

[remote kiln]

all this bs comparisons when people forgot their own games

[arctic grove]

4 maps compared to 1

I know what I’d pick

[rocky kraken]

2042 is live service tho

[eager spire]

there's more to it than that.

[rocky kraken]

so why would they make 4 maps

at once

[arctic grove]

live service means Jack if there is hardly any service in the first place

[rocky kraken]

waste of money

[next onyx]

Wasn't bf4 none functional for a good year?

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote kiln]

you must be in some sort of parallel universe because you couldn't even play the fucking maps because of server errors

[eager spire]

i was absolutely not paying attention to BF4 around launch

[next onyx]

I didn't really care for the game either when it came out.

[remote kiln]

yes

you couldn't finish a match for an entire year

[next onyx]

Functional game.

CTE is what saved it really.

[eager spire]

And then the CTE turned into Content Tested Early in BF1.

[arctic grove]

I can’t even find a match

I know I live in Australia but still

[rocky kraken]

no shit

[eager spire]

And shit made for the BF1 CTE didn't even come out.

[arctic grove]

Previous BF games have servers

[next onyx]

Uh which game.

Bf4 OCE?

[arctic grove]

2042 half the time

[next onyx]

2042 OCE is pretty lively.

[arctic grove]

Depends heavily on the time and most of the time it’s just the new map playlist

[next onyx]

Breakthrough is usually populated from 4 PM onwards.

[remote kiln]

most OCE folk are going to other regions the population there is too restricted

[arctic grove]

yeah mate I can’t even play portal

[next onyx]

4 PM South Australia time.

[arctic grove]

but I can find maps on previous games 🤔

[next onyx]

OCE is a shit region.

I'd rather live in the EU and play against people there.

[arctic grove]

it is what it is

[remote kiln]

OCE on the older games is dead aswell don't kid yourself lol

[arctic grove]

2 live BF1 servers at any one time

[remote kiln]

that's it?

[arctic grove]

Depending on the time even more

[remote kiln]

exactly the point

[next onyx]

2 live servers owned by the KEMA cunts.

People who can't play the game normally so they have it on hardcore all the time.

[arctic grove]

yeah they’re annoying pricks

[next onyx]

And abuse the RSC.

[arctic grove]

they always camp the vehicles too

[remote kiln]

milsim ftw

[arctic grove]

the amount of times I’ve gotten killed cuz one of those KEMA dogs is camping an artillery truck for true entire game

[next onyx]

Bf5 OCE isn't faring too well either. Ok people are playing but last I heard it's just stacks by DWE, 2Ezy and all taht shit.

[arctic grove]

not really Milsim just double damage

[next onyx]

It used to be ok pre 2042.

[eager spire]

God I hate people like that.

[next onyx]

They still have zoom snap on mind you... on a hardcore server.

[arctic grove]

double damage does make snipers a hell of a lot more fun

[next onyx]

Ye I got my Martini henry sniper that way.

[eager spire]

There's shit clans and servers like that on BF4 NA.

[arctic grove]

this is your only option though

[next onyx]

Ironically I wouldn't mind hardcore too much if I got into it. But the servers have such scuffed rulesets and ratty players that it's not worth playing.

[arctic grove]

and yeah whenever I play BF4 I just go on some locker 24/7

in NA

[next onyx]

I can't go back to Bf4.

[arctic grove]

seems to function somewhat

[next onyx]

The deadzones are horrid.

Bf1 and bf5 with actual aim customisation on console make all the difference.

[eager spire]

eh, i hate Hardcore. I think it's existence undermines the balance of the game to a degree that it frankly shouldn't exist.

[next onyx]

If I could modify my deadzones on Bf4 and BFH things'd be different.

[rocky kraken]

god ddamn exposure attack is horrible

its dday

[next onyx]

I would play a lot of hardcore back in black ops 2.

But the balance is much difference there.

[eager spire]

So did I. But i also used to be fucking stupid.

[arctic grove]

I generally only jsut play scout on the KEMA servers cuz every other class sucks unless you’ve got the best und

guns*

[next onyx]

To be fair. COD Hardcore isn't too bad.

[arctic grove]

ill be gaming at 10pm tonight

[eager spire]

it was literally everything oneshots.

[arctic grove]

issue with cod is that it was built to be fast paced

the older ones at lest

[remote kiln]

it's pretty easy to lockdown the obj attacking but you need some coordination

[next onyx]

Versus battlefield where things are often 4 to 5 hit kills, Cod hardcore is easier to get in to.

But that's just my experience.

[remote kiln]

the attack Heli for the second objective can stop them entirely getting there and the wildcat on the final with artillery can get 40 kills by itself

[rocky kraken]

we literally spawn out in open field

[eager spire]

4-5 hit kills at 60% health? 🤔

[next onyx]

I mean.

Versus core.

[rocky kraken]

and have to run towards buildings

[next onyx]

Hardcore versus core.

[eager spire]

That's not even worth comparing.

Of course it's gonna be easier to get into when every gun in the game can literally kill in one shot, it's brainless.

[next onyx]

What I'm trying to say in the sake of this is that Cod hardcore compared to Cod Core is easier to get into than battlefield hardcore from core.

[remote kiln]

it's not nobody uses their minimap anyways so you're 70% the way there already

[next onyx]

You'd be surprised!

[remote kiln]

I mostly prefer HC anyways getting a massive skull icon that your teammate died right next to you means you can switch your brain off

[next onyx]

I did play some bf5 200% damage and it's kind of nice to cruise with the mp40.

[eager spire]

Yeah, but it's not due to any substantial changes to the game that make it more realistic or any more "hardcore", really. It's just 60% health with no HUD. But what this does is create a lot of instances where rat playstyles are rewarded so heavily that it's often not practical to play any other way.

[next onyx]

Cause normally it's a shit gun.

[remote kiln]

it isn't just more health base modifiers for ammunition change aswell

[next onyx]

I'm just viewing hardcore as an alternative over core. It kinda does reward ratty playstyles for sure.

Yeah.

Squad leader only spawn.

[eager spire]

I'm viewing Hardcore as a waste of space.

Because it is.

[remote kiln]

explosives have a higher blast radius and shotgun shells have different damage models

[next onyx]

Uhhh full on mag dump reload.

You're probably just thinking of the interactions with the kill zones with explosives.

[remote kiln]

it's not the fragmentation range for grenades and other types are higher

[eager spire]

A waste of space that appeals to people that either want Battlefield to be something it's not, or people that are too shit at the game to play it normally.

[remote kiln]

tank shells have a higher blast radius etc too

[rocky kraken]

does anyone else think the dm7 and the svk are broken

or just me

[echo shale]

2/128 in lobby , 32 required to start

[hexed mango]

@proud gorge hello

i am in your house

[lilac dust]

Tier 1'd all assault rifles apart from AM40 M16, Tier 1'd BSV, PKP, Avancys. Any idea what I should tier 1 next?

[next onyx]

M16.

[lilac dust]

Zero motivation to do portal guns until they add tier 1 skins. Any other ideas?

[eager spire]

I don’t think they’re going to add T1 skins for the Portal weapons.

[summer zenith]

Pistols

[lilac dust]

Yeah I was thinking of tier 1ng a pistol since there's not really any guns that I don't have tier 1 that are super OP atm. Would rather wait til the next meta happens then tier 1 whatever that ends up being

[thorn helm]

Selective Extraction of Uranium from Liquid or Supercritical Carbon Dioxide

[thorn helm]

they should bring T1 assignment's down too difficult I'm lvl 95 and still have nothing unlocked there's no way someone can have such an unlock I've been playing since day one as well

[proud gorge]

Why you leave

[hexed mango]

i stepped away for a sec... it kicked me as i was getting back

[proud gorge]

That’s why you always

Have something pushing ya walk foward

Or the rubber band trick to not get kicked

Poopenfarten

[hexed mango]

ok bozo

[pulsar junco]

something doesnt feel right with the m60

[thorn helm]

the grip stock and barrel aren't cut down to nothing thats what ive already explained the M60Z

[hexed mango]

all vault weapons are like that

aka shit

[pulsar junco]

gol magnum goes hard

[hexed mango]

i feel like gol doesnt pack a punch tho

[echo shale]

Hot take but breakthrough on breakaway is way worse than hour glass

[thorn helm]

youre on EZ mode wait until hardcore

[pulsar junco]

its true

[hexed mango]

bt 64 layout on breakaway is decent tho, the hourglass one is shit

[echo shale]

The 2nd sector is pain

[hexed mango]

yeah but in a normal sense, the gun is ass, basically all weapons are good in hc, cause its hc.

[echo shale]

Mounted Vulcans and the borders on the second sector plus how far away the points are makes breakaway hell for attacking

On defending its easy you dont even need to try

[next onyx]

Bt breakaway is fun.

[hexed mango]

i wouldnt say its fun

its alright

not great

[next onyx]

Well yeah it can be fun but maybe I just say that since 128p bt and cq is fucking awful on it.

[hexed mango]

maps that need major reworks:
Hourglass
Breakaway

[a little less so] Discarded

[arctic grove]

@hexed mango Full squad

[hexed mango]

@proud gorge i hate this map

[arctic grove]

feels bad man

[thorn helm]

what happens when you place rubber concussion springs ina helmet emplacement all around will it be in the next development will it help block out those annoying things

[hexed mango]

snooze you lose

[arctic grove]

Heheheha

[tame cobalt]

So 64 players on the new CQ32 maps is basically Grind mode from bfv

[thorn helm]

the Helmet is pieced together but connected?

its flexible but not some how flex's out rather then in idk?

[pulsar junco]

i hate discarded idk about you lot but everything past firist bt point is awful

and just the open field from spawn is pretty awful too

[tame cobalt]

[next creek]

So Bf2042 isn't start fo rme

The window opens up, then five seconds later it disappears

[tame cobalt]

F

[next creek]

I've just tried repairing the game, restarting origin, and restarting my computer

Any other ideas?

[thorn helm]

is it sheeted with tungsten foil as well as rubber coated lead foil?

[tame cobalt]

Bruu

[tame cobalt]

[keen loom]

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

@proud gorge different game mode? ill take anything

[proud gorge]

Yeah I think Rush XL died for now

[tame cobalt]

domination mode is in portal

well similar to dom

But not in official playlists yet

[proud gorge]

@arctic grove our jet went after 1 guy

Cause he spams bombs 1,000 feet in the air

Like bruh he ain’t gonna kill shit if he drops HE that high

Maybe people if they stand still

[arctic grove]

our team was ass then the stupid jet pilot was useless RIP

[clear frigate]

Join chat if you wanna squad up on 2042

[tawny carbon]

Who remembers the staircase to heaven Easter egg in BFV?

[tame cobalt]

I remember seeing it online

[arctic grove]

Bro we keep getting into garbage teams

[proud gorge]

A jet was on my ass the whole game

Seems he really hates stealth helis

[tame cobalt]

Must be a skill issue

[tame cobalt]

Who doesn't

[proud gorge]

It was a AI lobby

He could of confused on killing AI

For free upgrades

But sadly he sucks at jets

And I keep dodging him and teasing him with the 20mm cannons

[tawny carbon]

it had a Morse code but dice removed it from the game, I always wonder why

[fierce sail]

The dinosaur shit

or have I just entered into the wrong conversation

[thorn helm]

The Solar-CZ1 is back on track that utilizes earth minerals that either generate heat/electricity from Metamorphic rocks, Marble and limestone or Shungite,

[tawny carbon]

The stairway to heaven Easter egg?

[fierce sail]

Can it run crysis though?

[fierce sail]

The stuff where you build up in hamada or something

[tawny carbon]

As soon people got to the morse code dice removed it

[tawny carbon]

Yea

[fierce sail]

It just activates randomly on console for me

Loa duo the game

Sit in the menu for a minute and it plays the little theme and I can load it up

[tawny carbon]

There was a headset at the top, you have to interact and Morse code plays. you have to build your way up, if you build the wrong one, you fall to your death

[thorn helm]

idk yet im trying to generate heat without sun is why i decided to add calcite, celestite, colemanite, fluorite, sphalerite, and willemite.

[arctic grove]

BRO THAT EXPLOSION CRASHED MY GAME

[fierce sail]

An office pc from 2005 with crysis running can generate heat without the sun

[proud gorge]

Imma get off for today

We game more tomorrow

[thorn helm]

why is the Govnt wasting everyone's time? magine a high powered solar panel that you don't have to pay for that stupid electric bill I rather doubt Benjamin Franklin invented electricity ?......

[arctic grove]

Aight. goodnight

[proud gorge]

We would of lived in that heli

If I brought Air to air rockets

And not air to ground

[arctic grove]

Tomorrow we can hop on a heli and take out planes

[proud gorge]

Well no those 2 people where angry at me

Rockey for not being able to kill at all on that arctic map

And La baller cause he wants to camp at 1,000 feet to snipe he bombs and I killed him

[arctic grove]

Bruh no wonder we kept losing

[proud gorge]

Also for orbital

If you see the rocket start to smoke just run away

Whole team died to that explosion

[thorn helm]

we need ADATS

im sure they could upgrade ADATS tubes on HELOS

[proud gorge]

It’s funny how dice think oh in 2042 USA will not have there LAV or bradlys anymore

And Russia won’t have there bmp’s

Tho In reality they still will

[arctic grove]

They couldve copy/paste them from bf4 assets

[proud gorge]

But nah cyberbolt

The wildcat is real yes

But the us or Russia

Won’t get rid of there ADTAS or Tunguska

For that thing

[arctic grove]

Sick

[thorn helm]

THEY DONT EVEN HAVE multi versions of armor packages i want to choose from caged or ERA

[proud gorge]

Kinda funny how it’s real

[arctic grove]

Yeah tho i think they should add more real armored vehicles

[proud gorge]

Yeah

Already 2022 and Russia still has T-80’s and T-72’s

Where T-28 dice

Where my M1A5 Abrams

[bitter skiff]

boin

[arctic grove]

Portal

[thorn helm]

M1Z1 which is a counter part to the M1A5, its just a drone ver.

[thorn helm]

its a call package either ina tent or the apache AH-64Z

[echo shale]

Is the bullet origin the eyes

[thorn helm]

AH-64Z Is a magnetic field generator hover craft its without blades

[echo shale]

Because there is no way in hell the bullet origin is the weapons

[lilac dust]

First impressions of the new headshot sound were that it was worse and there was no reason to change it..... but now I gotta say I'm coming around to it 👌

[thorn helm]

idk it i hope they add several ver. and a tab to turn it off

[lilac dust]

It wasnt til l started sniping that I started to appreciate it

[thorn helm]

I miss BF4 most realistic Mil-sim still todate I turned most HUD Off as i was playing zavod 311 just listening to enemy voices was scary

to combatant Friendly fire they can put a Weapon Heads up display that changes to whatever color you want instead of ricochet from yu know lol

[echo shale]

People said the game started to improve but i dont see any of it

Still awful ram management, broken match making and same major launch bugs

[proud gorge]

Game gonna suffer when MW2 comes out

Just a tad bit

[echo shale]

Did people wake up and decided the game is better? Lmao

Why aren’t my characters , weapon and UI always loaded in the ram

[lone void]

Actually very cool irl

[snow aspen]

I have a question, currently I think the cosmetics of 2042 are a bit stale. It's mostly just textures slapped onto guns. But given that there's a desire for a military fantasy, it's hard to go overboard with animations and effects like Valorant. Where would you draw the line between a nice skin for 2042 and going overboard with effects?

[mossy badge]

They should add lalisa from BLACKPINK and Katy Perry, chika san, Anna nishikinomiya, snorlax skins

[snow aspen]

X to doubt

[mossy badge]

Like if you using lalisa in victory screen you can hear ddu ddu ddu song

or as Katy victory screen will play firework 🎆 🎇

[snow aspen]

Dice should take notes

[mossy badge]

They should they must

[thorn helm]

[lilac dust]

Imma keep it real dawg. Stranded would be dope if the ship wasn't literally the exact same asset as the discarded ship with additional rooms and cleaned up a bit with a new colour pallette

[lone void]

Continuity moment

[full burrow]

dunno I dont really care about reused assets (considering the dev team is 7.5 people) they need shortcuts

Its just the map isnt great, the ship isnt great and the close quaters combat we were promised is one container room

[lilac dust]

I also don't care about resued assets but when we're talking about the main part of the map being a giant ship I could do without more than one map putting the focus on giant ships

considering this game won't even get a fraction of BF4's map roster we at least deserve more creativity for each new map

[full burrow]

im guessing discarded is the map in Alaang, India?

[lilac dust]

Yep

[full burrow]

cos on 64 player cq the ship has B1 B2 and B3 and that ship is one of favourite group of points in the whole game

the stranded ship isnt even as good as this one

[edgy oriole]

Weekly reset happen?

Wait it's Monday nevermind tf

[next onyx]

14:31 too early.

[arctic grove]

Manifest is such a great map

I actually love it

[echo shale]

Well i stay away from the ports for my mental sake so yes its good

[queen pivot]

81mm Oerlikon automatic rocket launcher

For transport

[frank stratus]

@queen pivot you my G now

[arctic grove]

Why do my keybinds keep reverting to default mid game and then back again

[full burrow]

hmmmm

thats odd mum

do you use any keyboard/mouse software

[arctic grove]

Only the model O software for mouse

[full burrow]

and if you check in game bind you can actually see that theyve gone back to default and but then they change back on their own?

[arctic grove]

They appear to be as i set them in settings even when they revert physically

The middle wheel i have on melee and reload and it goes back to weapon select

And space reverts to jump

[full burrow]

I may suggest 2 things but idk

You could try putting the settings file as a read only after youve made your changes, maybe that will prevent any overwriting or reverting

or keep the in game settings as default but rebind you mouse/keys to what you want them to be

so that say spacebar is actually "k" and K does whatever you want it to do

oh also, try just deleting the stuff in your 2042 documents folder

then it will redownload it and you can rebind, might work as a fix

[thorn helm]

2042 wont start for me X(

[proud gorge]

@frank stratus you ain’t fooling me Tunde

[tame cobalt]

Really wanna play on those new layouts

[proud gorge]

[frank stratus]

[arctic grove]

Is October 10th update possible?

Imagine releasing an update in less than 31 days

[frank stratus]

👍

[lone void]

Just had a game where someone got 73 kills in a stealth heli because nobody knows how to anti air, apparently

Even better, the one time I get a wildcat because people aren’t wasting our single armour slot and it kills me with the 30mm cannons, apparently

And the battle pass badges are still laughably broken

Tier 60 and it thinks I have 487 points

[next onyx]

I mean. I'd imagine that they were able to dodge most of the AA headed for them.

[arctic grove]

any tips for making the visibility better? does nvidia have some filter that could work

often i just see the enemy nametags and not their body

[mossy badge]

Sandbags and concrete blocks

[queen pivot]

Yes

Based in the u sh 405

[arctic grove]

i know visual clutter is always there but seems like the enemy especially on some maps are just not really visible

like its just dark

[storm jolt]

battlefield has always had small issue with visibility

esp bf4 where everything is gray

[arctic grove]

@full burrow thx willdo!

maybe i try night vision for the dark maps as my monitor has that

[lone void]

No literally nobody gave a shit

Because I always get put on brainlet team apparently

They couldn't even acknowledge a tank that was stationary for 20 minutes

On breakthrough so it isn't even like it's halfway across the map

People are just stupid

[vagrant stirrup]

Is there any way to call AI to leave the vehicle? The conversation wheel didn't work
I just want to snipe with my vehicle, but AI keeps moving it
That's annoying

[next onyx]

Unfortunately not.

[chilly jacinth]

Get good and move with your vehicle

[tacit girder]

Hello . please tell me if people from Ukraine can play this game? and one more question
Will this game always be this expensive? I'm just a poor disabled person and I don't have that kind of money. but i really want to play it

[vagrant stirrup]

[uncut bay]

the game regularly goes on sale, should be on sale soon. Not sure about availability

[next onyx]

You should be able to play it from wherever Agro. However. You can play it for cheap on a monthly sub.

Provided you have net up still.

[tame cobalt]

Sometimes an aircraft would dominate a map and I don't notice it

So, if u do notice it and u need help, use the team chat to let ppl know

[chilly jacinth]

The EA play sub is probably your best option if you're short on money

[tiny python]

Check physical copies tbh

Got mine last week for £10 brand new

[chilly jacinth]

dont know if thats a great idea in Ukraine

[tame cobalt]

Dice is waiting for year 2 before adding 2042 to subscription services

As they will be able to use the subscription service additions as a soft relaunch

Year 2 and subscription service launch will be announced at EA Play 2023

[chilly jacinth]

you can already play it through their subscription service

[tame cobalt]

yeah but only ea play pro

I meant adding it to ea play (base tier), ps+ extra, gamepass

[remote kiln]

EA play base tier? maybe after season 4 lol

[tame cobalt]

yee that's what I'm saying

[remote kiln]

assuming the game gets support beyond it it definitely won't get added

[tame cobalt]

disagree

if there's a year 2 they can sell year 2 pass to people playing through subscriptions

and other mtx

[remote kiln]

they can't, because that's assuming an entire 4 seasons extra

at best it's probably only going to be 2 seasons after, it mostly depends on if the next game is finished by then

judging by zampellas comments its likely

[tame cobalt]

it's probably either 4 seasons extra or just life support

imo

[remote kiln]

pay to play each season $10 entry fee

[tame cobalt]

[tame cobalt]

wdym

[remote kiln]

likely there will be additional support, of some kind

[tame cobalt]

only thing i saw is him saying dice will get the time they need to make the next game great

[remote kiln]

yes, and executives don't say that, assuming the next title is close to release

which means it isnt

[tame cobalt]

Ye

[tame cobalt]

if there's continued support without new content, perhaps it will be a continuation of adding vault content

vault guns, gadgets, vehicles

[remote kiln]

most likely

one new map will still come, whether it's good quality is another question

[tame cobalt]

[remote kiln]

also that's a nice season 3 copium you got battlefield 2042 #deadgame

[tame cobalt]

i think s3 and s4 will be really good tbh

aside from balancing

balancing will probably still be bad, as always

but map quality getting better and more toys to play with

will be fun

And new class system will be interesting

[arctic grove]

can you disable TAA in this game somehow?

[dire quest]

Anyone interested in Domination 128 players? 3 flags, small maps, infantry only?

[tame cobalt]

I just wish they'd do a vehicle physics overhaul

[tame cobalt]

[dire quest]

[tame cobalt]

64 would be more than enough for a nice meatgrinder experience

128 is meme territory

but the meatgrinder addicts would be into it

[mental delta]

Who said next BF title was close to release ? We probably will get it in 2024 at least

[remote kiln]

you cant, TAA is built into the engine

[edgy oriole]

BLOOD. MURDER. GRINDER

[remote kiln]

nobody did, which follows onto the prior comment

[arctic grove]

ah yeah thought so... sadge

[mental delta]

Ha sorry I didn't see it

[tame cobalt]

he meant zampella wouldn't have said that if bf6 was nearing release

[remote kiln]

[mental delta]

So what Zampella said please ?

[tame cobalt]

2024-2025 release probably

[mental delta]

2024 if we are lucky yeah

Before BF2042 release they wanted to get a new game every two years but the failure of the current game changed their plans drastically

[tame cobalt]

"[...] It’s a whole new structure. We’re putting multiple studios together. We’re bringing the best talent together and giving them the time to do something amazing.”

[mental delta]

No matter how long it takes them to get us another game, I don't see BF2042 getting more than the 4 initially planned seasons

[mental delta]

I hope they will make something good because they are able to, but it will take time for sure

[tame cobalt]

yeah, and it would suck if there's a long period without support during that time

Bfv moment

Overwatch moment

[remote kiln]

the next operator will delay soldiers from spawning on the battlefield

[tame cobalt]

[jovial slate]

a no life for the BF discord??

[pine roost]

You’ve got some technical know how don’t you? Do you know why they made TAA forced with the engine nowadays? Why is it preferred when disabling it produces a sharper image

[tame cobalt]

[jovial slate]

not even a game

bruh

[pine roost]

Such an option is becoming the norm more and more too, so many games have it forced but I can’t make heads or tails as to why

[oblique dove]

can you guys please follow me on twitch

viper188c

[next onyx]

@oblique dove Advertise in #streams-and-videos

[oblique dove]

we are busy with big wthings for

[remote kiln]

because TAA, the word now anyways uses a combination of SAA with the original TAA implementation (it's called TSAA but TAA for short) in order to have anti aliasing have good division with rendering at a distance, as much as disabling it will produce a sharper image, it will also make the game entirely unplayable because of the hit to framerates

maps like stranded and kaleidoscope have so much detail being rendered on screen that switching off TAA would have most cards physically unable to store the texture assets for the game in GPU memory, then there's the raster cost to the processing itself

[tame cobalt]

It's pretty sharp on 4k displays, which is the target nowadays

[pine roost]

I always assumed that disabling any form of AA would improve framerates because it doesn’t need to smooth out the jagged edges, looks to me like my understanding of it is wrong

[remote kiln]

you aren't entirely wrong, it can improve performance, however this is because of a faulty implementation from the developers end

[strong rampart]

new portal site supposed to be live now right?

[remote kiln]

it occurred within old game engines semi frequently as it wasn't actually compressing any texture assets, so there was a hit, rather than an improvement to performance

[next onyx]

Tomorrow, Heaven.

[dire quest]

What new portal site?

[remote kiln]

it leads to narnia

openthewardrobe.com

[arctic grove]

Im using render.resolutionscale 1.3 it doesn't lower fps by too much on my system but gives clearer image quality

[pine roost]

That’s rather interesting, so In it’s current implementation it’s done to actually improve framerates?

[tame cobalt]

ominous sentence without context

[dire quest]

Are they adding more content to portal?

[strong rampart]

then whats this launching now post 2hrs ago

[remote kiln]

yes it compresses 2 parts of assets one is the LOD of assets and then there's the physical memory size of the texture itself, essentially if you could switch off AA, memory utilisation for the game would be 1.5x or higher as a norm on the maps themselves

in numerical terms that's 8GB+ of utilisation

[pine roost]

Jeez

[remote kiln]

they scale dynamically which is why AA is used, so the closer you are to something the sharper it is

[pine roost]

Well thanks for that clarification, it’s been a question on my mind for years but I’ve never been able to find an answer that actually makes sense

[remote kiln]

no worries

[pine roost]

As someone who is very keen to get into game dev or software dev it seems like something I’ll do some more research on to fully understand

[remote kiln]

it wasn't common in older games as assets were mediocre in detail sizes compared to now, then translate that to how much bigger the maps are now and you get why AA is used universally

[pine roost]

My understanding of it all right now is similar to driving a car. When you don’t know much about it you just assume it’s accelerate and break, but once you learn more there’s far more to it

[remote kiln]

your understanding isn't far off so you're part the way the way there

[pine roost]

I just assumed it was because the devs didn’t like jagged edges :/

Sure I might understand the basics but it’s tough to wrap my head around the fact that turning it off could make performance worse

[remote kiln]

the tldr is the higher the resolution, the worse it becomes essentially

[tame cobalt]

yes they are adding more guns to portal

[remote kiln]

so if you switch off AA there is a higher performance penalty per resolution

4k is 3840 meaning there's millions of more pixels being rendered than 1440p, 1440p-1080p etc

[pine roost]

Don’t suppose you know of any resources that cover the topic that I could have a gander through?

[remote kiln]

there are which are you looking for in terms of advanced material?

[mental delta]

I would like to see all those weapons integrated to AOW then

[dire quest]

Did anyone else notice they added so players and ai can mix squads in portal?

[tame cobalt]

[mental delta]

In AOW solo too

[pine roost]

At the moment I don’t know all that much about it, so any advanced materials would be far too complex for me, but perhaps something that goes over the basics of rendering, AA, idk exactly

[tame cobalt]

they won't add "duplicate" weapons tho, so they're not gonna add scar, or VSS and AS VAL (they would be duplicates of bsvm)

[arctic grove]

I tried resolution scale of 2.0 too it looked good but my gpu isnt able to run it very well (50fps) 1.3 is sweet spot getting around 100 fps and clearer quality

[mental delta]

Yeah and it's ok, I would prefer seeing M240B, M416, or SPAS-12

No interest in porting weapons in AOW which are already in the game

[tame cobalt]

New portal weapons
🔹 MTAR-21
🔹 SKS
🔹 RPK (BC2 and BF3)
🔹 AUG (BC2 and BF3)
🔹 VSS
🔹 Sten

[tame cobalt]

portal spas was absolutely trash when i tried it tbh

with buckshot

[dire quest]

Would anyone be interested in 128 player domination? 3 flags, small maps, close quarter infantry only battles?

[tame cobalt]

No

[arctic grove]

I remember earlier games had resolution scale slider in menu but its removed for 2042

[mental delta]

I know I just cited a random Portal shotgun cause AOW only has 2 lmao

[mental delta]

I would like to see RPK and AUG to AOW, I hope they get their stats correctly when they will add them to Portal so they can directly add them to AOW after

[tame cobalt]

how about that DAO-12

[mental delta]

Maybe 5 points would be more appropriate for a 128 players lobby

[mental delta]

Never played it to be honest

[lunar finch]

I hope the MTAR comes to AOW too. One of my fav guns oat

[tame cobalt]

pretty much like 12m auto

[dire quest]

Would 64 players be better for Domination?

[mental delta]

I don't like 12mm auto, I prefer shotguns like M870 which are real semi-auto shotguns

[lunar finch]

Okay but like what about an aa12 instead

[tame cobalt]

there will be only a couple vault weapons added every month, they want it to be an long lasting monthly thing

[remote kiln]

most of it is programming which you can avoid, the IEEE have a good introduction to the basics of computer rendering https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6382718
https://kth.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1106244/FULLTEXT01.pdf is an explanatory thesis into different anti aliasing implementations

[mental delta]

Yeah because it makes people think it's new content while it's just content which is already in the game

[shy latch]

the only good AA is the one against aircrafts 😏

[pine roost]

Thanks, I feel like that’ll be a very interesting read

[remote kiln]

no worries

[arctic grove]

Manifest is the best breakthrough map by far.

[pine roost]

So I take it then that given the performance impact of not using TAA in these large scale games, we won’t be seeing the ability to disable it return any time soon?

[arctic grove]

I swear it's so good.

[vast cloak]

And they’re all going to feel like shit cuz let’s face it all portal weapons with the exception of the Gol, suck ass in AOW

[arctic grove]

And there isn't 50 vehicles driving around lol

[remote kiln]

correct

[solar obsidian]

you can still use it in the console

[arctic grove]

If u read my previous message this response would look different

[low minnow]

Any pickup comp servers? Send if so please

[arctic grove]

And setting file is easier as you need to to console command every time its launched

[low timber]

Did you use it in pump or semi mode?

[barren spade]

am i the only one thats getting unablke to connect to the EA servers?

[arctic grove]

i spawned like this, this was only way i could move

[errant scarab]

The same thing happened to me, I pressed the crouch key and it was fixed

[arctic grove]

ye pretty weird glitch

[errant scarab]

many new bugs have come out

sometimes I see strange structures on the maps

[vast cloak]

Happened to me last night aswell. Crouch key fixed it

[plain kiln]

Hello everyone 🙂

[atomic egret]

Anyone else find it extremely fun to run and gun with the Gol Mag using the red dot sight?🤔

[vast cloak]

It’s better with the sws10 cuz it’s 1 shot anywhere on the body at a certain close distance range

[atomic egret]

Same with the Gol, drops 1 shots at pretty good range plus I feel like it's a shorter bolt throw..

[cunning acorn]

the game is dying again

I have hope

[uncut bay]

actually the game is steady

[errant scarab]

Bfv have more players with 2 years out service

[thorn helm]

oh nvm its not a shot gun it is a shotgun and a rifle?

[thorn helm]

bummer Dice would have to compensate the guy who invented it nvm ill donate battlefield 2042 $200 to add it?

[mental delta]

Yup no hesitation, it's definitely Big Brain Time here.

[rustic current]

https://youtu.be/LPVievsPHmU

Hopefully this brings back some competitive play like it did on bfv

[thorn helm]

https://youtu.be/Ncj3bux7c5o

[next onyx]

Hurensohne spielt lieber.

[mossy badge]

english only please

[mossy badge]

[vast cloak]

Gol does 88dmg body shot up to medium range. Longer distance it’s about 70 something dmg, sometimes it feels like it one shots at close range it’s cuz the person has taken 12 or more dmg prior to you shooting him at medium range

One shot headshot any range of course

It does not one shot full health kill at close range like the SWS10 does

[turbid zinc]

they need to fire whoever is in charge of designing the spawns and out of bounds boundaries for this game. it is utterly stupid that defense can get spawn camped a mile away from the objs but they cant sit in the obj because its out of the play area

[shy latch]

perfect parking

[eager lily]

One thing that should’ve been fixed by now on last gen bf2042 is the graphics. It’s been buggy since beta, I know 2042 has come a long way since launch but simple things like graphics should be fixed by now. As far as I know it’s only last gen that does it or does it most, I’m on a series S I wasn’t the next gen but can’t bring myself to spend more money on the game. I love the battlefield series but 2042 is rough still.

[mental delta]

BF2042 is shit and they are not gonna improve a way lot more on old gen

[turbid zinc]

yea i would drop old gen if i were you

[eager lily]

I agree I’m just skeptical because I’ve already dropped $120 on the old gen for it to run as shit as it does just to upgrade to what? If I catch it on sale I’ll probably buy it. I still play it don’t get me wrong I’m a battlefield fan, not a huge fan of this game specifically but I like that it’s not WW1 or WW2.

[turbid zinc]

thats the problem with consoles, they last a good 5 years then they are outdated

[eager lily]

I agree. I’m moving to pc soon, there are sooooo many games on pc it’s wild.

[turbid zinc]

worth it imo. just be careful. pc gaming takes researching. dont just buy a pc because some ad said so

[full burrow]

that is a beautiful gun

[eager lily]

Absolutely! I hear you on that I’ve been looking around for quite some time. Thanks for the advice.

[thorn helm]

yure beautiful

[little lagoon]

At that price doesn't it come with next gen?

[granite island]

Time to spend 33 dollars

Just so I can play with 128 players instead of 64

I wish this game was on ps extra

[little lagoon]

I only say that cause I bought the version below, and I have ps4/5 versions

[granite island]

I only have PS4 version

And I'm using a ps5

[eager lily]

I bought the game for me then for my friend so we could play together and at the time we had last gen consoles. I wasn’t trying to spend $240 on the game(s) I was on a budget 😂

[little lagoon]

@eager lily oh okay!

I thought you bought the ultimate my bad

Gold comes with both as well

[eager lily]

Not a problem. I’ll have to catch it on sale.

[tame cobalt]

Hey vince zampella, attempting to save battlefield is pretty cool, but you know what would be even cooler? TITANFALL 3

[thorn helm]

so what do you have to buy a separate copy ? from ps4 to ps5?

[granite island]

Ye

Also I'm using a disc

So double L

[full burrow]

I got ow2 to try tomorrow

[thorn helm]

do you need an investment?

[tame cobalt]

imagine a bf campaign as good as the titanfall 2 campaign tho

[thorn helm]

L5 RIESIG

[lone wren]

I want mosin

[tame cobalt]

did u guys notice when u put 64 players on some of the new small layouts it becomes bfv Grind mode

[eager spire]

Damn DICE finally realized that nobody wants this whole "play one side of a map, and then switch to the other side and play the map again before changing maps" shit

and how long did that take 'em, a month.

[tame cobalt]

it should be a persistent server that puts you on the other side on the NEXT map.. and give indication to players that it's a persistent server

also, server browser

[brittle forge]

I still they missed the mark tbh. People left because the UI/UX sucks and doesn’t tell people what the next map is, that teams are switching, etc. And “continue” boots you to the main menu for some reason

[shell ermine]

And here I thought these maps couldn't get worse. Fun.

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[eager spire]

maybe there's a reason they're going to be 8v8/16v16 modes instead of 32v32

[tame cobalt]

Ok

[eager spire]

It's almost like stuffing more people into smaller map layouts makes for a worse experience

[swift zenith]

ok i know it'll seem like i'm trolling but i promise i'm not. does anyone here remember that glitch from the beta where the entire ground would randomly freak out and turn into triangles/broken models and shit? might've been a PS5 exclusive thing, need a clip for a video i'm making.

[shell ermine]

They should've brought back Fortress rather than Grind

[swift zenith]

i thought i had a clip from the beta but i must've deleted it.

[shell ermine]

But that would require fortifications

[tame cobalt]

They didn't bring back grind, it's 32 player infantry only conquest

[brittle forge]

For all the stuff they fixed it still doesn’t seem like they really have a grasp on makes a multiplayer game a multiplayer game

[shell ermine]

In 3 flag straight line maps, that's basically Grind

[tame cobalt]

Like bad company 2 conquest but infantry only

[brittle forge]

None of this shit was an issue with server browsers around

[eager spire]

no, if you look at the map layouts, it's not like Grind at all.

[shell ermine]

Different name, same thing

[tame cobalt]

Not all of them are 3 flag straight lines

[tame cobalt]

Lol no

[brittle forge]

Still waiting on proper squad selection/switching squads

[eager spire]

you'll probably be waiting a while, they don't have the technology

[tame cobalt]

the cq32 mode seems dope, hope i can try it on portal soon

[brittle forge]

“Probably” I have been lmao

11 months

[tame cobalt]

The only huge L about the cq32 mode is they didn't use the original arica harbor conquest layout

Which is actually mind boggling

but i assume they'll come to their senses and add that eventually

[brittle forge]

Is it really? Seems par for the course tbh

[shell ermine]

Conquest in BC2 was really hit or miss

Also good map, Par For the Course

Shame it never came back

[brittle forge]

Lol forgot that was a map

[tame cobalt]

arica harbor cq was hit

and panama canal

[shell ermine]

Harvest Day would make a good 64p Conquest map

[eager spire]

I saw the Tactical Conquest layout for Caspian Border. That shit's ass.

B1 flag is terrible.

[tame cobalt]

we'll see

[shell ermine]

Normally I'm not a fan of intense cqc infantry combat in Battlefield but the vehicle play is so shit in 2042 there really isn't much else to do. So I'll give this a try.

[tame cobalt]

Coming from a known caspian border hater we'll see

[eager spire]

There's a picture of the layout from it being available on Portal, you can see it for yourself.

Plus, i've consulted with friends of mine and they agree it's terrible as well. Here's what one of 'em had to say about it.

"The TLDR is that the B/C/D rotation is perhaps the worst central flag cluster in the franchise
The terrain is too flat and each of those three flags has almost an unlimited view and access of the other two
This makes holding, capturing, or hell, even existing between those flags an absolute and insane nightmare
Because of the barrenness of the terrain, this also causes the problem of spawns
Contesting any one of those flags (D is the least flagrant offender though) means that there is a 200% chance you will have enemies spawning behind you no matter what angle you hold
A third problem that arises from this is that the map actually plays too quickly
It wasn’t designed for 2042 movement speed, gunplay, specialist movement abilities, and 2042 vehicles like the Condor or Super Hind
The first point I made might seem like it’s present to the same extent in other 2042 maps - but it’s not
So the best way to clearly see what I’m saying is to look at the KDRs the next time you play Caspian in the Exodus rotation
You will basically see everyone’s kill counts plummet into the toilet and their deaths balloon
Compared to any other map in the rotation, because of the issues I presented."

[foggy halo]

[tame cobalt]

[tame cobalt]

Wrong

[shell ermine]

Regarding the tweets, I didn't even know you could stay in the same "server" since it takes so long, I've always just went back to the menu to re-queue

[eager spire]

it was in the patch notes for Season 2.

[hexed mango]

bruh they removed the back to back rounds… i actually liked that

[pine roost]

I didn’t see anyone complain about it

[eager spire]

a lot of people either didn't know it was a thing[which is weird cause it was in the patch notes], or didn't like it. because some people just don't like playing a certain side on a map.

[willow citrus]

Did it even work? The few times I played breakthrough since season 2 started, I was either loaded into another map or playing the same map on the same side again

[shell ermine]

Well that's just not a part of modern DICE's philosophy. Can't let the player have too much control and choice, they might not play what the devs want them to play.

[pine roost]

According to the Twitter comments it’s because there aren’t any ui indications to say that the switch is about to happen, so people would just skip to the lobby like any other match, leaving the second half empty

Since I guarantee most players don’t check the patch notes

[shell ermine]

Even in Conquest it takes like a full minute to move onto the next round its massively quicker to just leave and rejoin

[brittle forge]

Tbh I didn’t think back to back rounds happened in All Out Warfare

[pine roost]

They just didn’t know it was a thing

[brittle forge]

No persistent servers

[pine roost]

But it makes no sense to cut it outright, just add a small warning box or something to say it’s about to happen

[shell ermine]

Plus it takes so fucking long to get games started anyway with the dumb cinematics, countdown timer, etc

That's another reason I liked the Portal maps in Exodus, in and out much quicker

[brittle forge]

I mean I think the countdown timer is fine tbh, not being able to spawn in the deployment unless you’re in a vehicle is stupid though

Same for being “locked in” but still having to wait, like let me edit loadouts still at least

[pine roost]

Just talking about this very thing in another discord, the time it takes to get into the game is so unnecessarily long and I can’t fathom any reason why it’s designed like that

We don’t need a top gear style intro cinematic, or a 30 second timer, a 20 second timer, a 5 second timer, narration yada yada

[shell ermine]

If players knew exactly what would happen and were told how long it would take to move to the next game it would go a lot smoother.

Even in BFV with a server browser I'd intentionally join and leave servers with Iwo Jima Conquest until I got put on the Japanese team so when the round was over I'd end up on the American team for Wake Island.

[pine roost]

It took me 30 seconds to get into a bfV match excluding all loading screens, and 1:47 on 2042

I did a recording on my phone a while back to compare

[patent path]

you mean to find a match? or to load the map?

takes me 3 seconds to find a match in 2042 in Europe

[shell ermine]

We need some Conquest Assault island maps in 2042

[shell ermine]

He means from the second you hit search until you can start playing

Once you get past the cinematics and shit

[patent path]

he must be living in some alternate reality Europe then

[tame cobalt]

Dice needs to create a larger scale, more refined version of frontlines

[errant scarab]

where is battlefield 1 chat

[tame cobalt]

It could really take off since it would provide that hectic breakthrough gameplay experience without forcing players into an attacker or defender role

[mental delta]

So basically amphibious assault like some BF4 maps right ?

[patent path]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[errant scarab]

is battlefield no battlefield 1

[patent path]

I

don't know what to tell you man

[tame cobalt]

[shell ermine]

Like Wake Island in BFV

[mental delta]

Or Iwo Jima

Two amazing maps

[shell ermine]

Iwo Jima is Head-On, but yes it is

[mental delta]

Head-on ?

[pine roost]

I found the videos, excluding all loading and searching times 2042 took me 1:52 to get into a match. Bfv excluding waiting and loading times took 10 seconds

[tame cobalt]

[shell ermine]

Two uncapturable home bases

Assault only one team has a home base

[tame cobalt]

[shell ermine]

Conquest Assault is the original Breakthrough and 9 times out of 10 it plays better

Breakthrough is DICE splicing together Conquest Assault and Rush

[tame cobalt]

Bfv wake island is regular conquest

[shell ermine]

Conquest Head-On: Standard Conquest with two home bases and neutral flags
Conquest Assault: One home base, all flags owned by enemy
Conquest Double Assault: No home bases, all flags already split up between teams

There were a few more rarely used variations

Double Assault hasn't been in a Battlefield since Bad Company 1

Assault has been fairly rare since it came back with Bark to Karkand

[restive magnet]

my 2042 suddenly isnt launching. any ideas?

[tame cobalt]

battlefield would be better if each map is only made for 1 mode (with exceptions)

[shell ermine]

Double Assault is how it worked in the original Star Wars Battlefront games too

Most of the time

[tame cobalt]

But players value quantity over quality in the short term

So they'll continue with quantity over quality...

[pine roost]

I’d much rather they fix up the current vehicle roster than keep adding more

[shell ermine]

Its ridiculous that player count was doubled but armor count was halved, or more

Only two armored vehicles per team, nonsense

[fossil trench]

Easiest way to get multi kills?

[shell ermine]

Blow up vehicles

[pine roost]

Flank enemies

[foggy halo]

🤔 They add vehicles?

[tame cobalt]

c4 in chokepoints

[umbral island]

So is that infantry conquest gonna be permanent?

[eager spire]

Unlikely. It'll probably get rotated out once the event's over

[umbral island]

L

[eager spire]

maybe if people like it i'll get rotated back in at some point

[restive magnet]

So suddenly when i go to launch the game after the easy anticheat window, it just goes to a black window and never actually boots/eventually crashes. any ideas? ive never had this issue before

[shell ermine]

Just looked at the layout for Arica, yeah that's stupid as fuck

More fighting amongst indestructible shipping containers. Great. Awesome.

[cobalt flower]

battlefield has decided to stop launching 😩

[next onyx]

My chat froze but they've always done this in breakthrough and rush for bf5.

[restive magnet]

im having the same issue

[cobalt flower]

getting a funny little black window?

[restive magnet]

yep, then it just closes

[cobalt flower]

mine just stays open

very cool

[restive magnet]

mine either stays open or crashes

[next onyx]

Oh no the existence of hard cover.

[restive magnet]

no idea what this is about. I've had zero issues since launch aside from this

[next onyx]

You do realise how relevant hard cover is right.

[shell ermine]

No

[next onyx]

It keeps the form of the map.

[shell ermine]

And that's not the point of Arica

[next onyx]

Allows flow to not get screwed over.

[eager spire]

hard cover is important yes but is shipping containers really the only form of hard cover they have?

[next onyx]

Probably.

[shell ermine]

The buildings don't vanish when collapsed. There is still plenty of cover in them

[low timber]

The MVP screen might need an overhaul, I pretty much never look at it, and when I do I missed the 1st and/or 2nd spot, and only way to know if it might’ve been me is that the specialist has the same outfit and weapon.

[restive magnet]

anyone ever have this black window issue where the game never actually launches? any idea what causes it?

[shell ermine]

Plus the match should be almost over by the time all of the buildings were flattened if DICE designed the mode well

[eager spire]

you can still shoot through collapsed buildings.

[next onyx]

And that's true but it's still less cover to use.

Considering the kind of game mode this is anyways soft cover probably won't have much of a use.

[eager spire]

Here's a concept: Indestructible buildings in smaller scale modes.

[next onyx]

I'm not sure mojo sorry.

Try repairing your game.

[restive magnet]

tried verifying the files and nothing was wrong

[shell ermine]

Its a time limited mode using a fan favorite map but esquewing the fan favorite layout. Makes no sense

[next onyx]

Uninstall and reinstall.

[eager spire]

Arica was BC2, right

[next onyx]

That's what I can suggest.

Yeah.

[arctic grove]

nah i only uninstalled.

[eager spire]

i don't remember how the smaller conquest layout worked for it.

[next onyx]

Uh it was the town.

Not the docks.

[eager spire]

ugh i'll have to look at a picture hold on

[arctic grove]

game gets extremely boring fast

[eager spire]

okay

[next onyx]

What's interesting is squad conquest Caspian border.

[eager spire]

i see

[shell ermine]

2042 has given me an irrational hatred of shipping containers. They were everywhere and entirely indestructible

[eager spire]

That's ass. I can tell you right now that layout is going to suck.

[next onyx]

I'm just waiting until we play it.

[radiant prism]

I dunno why people hate the containers so much. I mean I guess I can understand a little bit…but I don’t hate them I guess?

[next onyx]

It reminds me of the cq 32 layout.

Not 32. 24.

God I forget late gen had 12v12 not 16v16.

[eager spire]

i can understand not liking them, they're incredibly overused in this game.

probably cause DICE can't think of any better ideas.

[next onyx]

I personally don't care.

It's there it's whatever.

[radiant prism]

Yeah I get that, but at the same time I don’t care too much like way

[next onyx]

And this isn't my whole content with what they throw at us. I just don't care.

[errant scarab]

No complain today?