#battlefield-2042
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Fine
Well ok then
Alright then
Time for edgerunners
Live life on the edge
all
vcar
just played a bit of MW2 beta.... yeah, battlefield gun play is 10x better.
Yup. Sounds about right.
horrendous take
unironically i think the same. i feel like they could easily make it better tho
weapon shake (and btw i already put that minimum) while running and firing its like my character has parkinson
People drum up hype on whatever new CoD game, not because they love CoD, but because they’re not happy about BF. Then they try it and all it does is make people realize that BF provides a unique feel that no series is truly going to be able to replicate
BUT GROUND WAR 
Not to say that MW2 is bad
But it’s just never gonna replace CoD
It’s a cycle as old as people overhyping BF games at launch
honest take. mw22 gonna be a 6/10 maybe 7.
Then being shocked when DICE doesn’t have its shit together
So what are the reviews for MW2? is it the elden ring of FPS shooters?
Sir this is a 2042 channel

sound is prolly best thing about mw22

I think it's common knowledge
Hence why both have been around for years
The mindset of whenever a new cod or bf comes out that it's gonna replace the other is stupid
so far im not liking it that much.. but i need to play more
maybe im too used to bf 2042 mechanics
Ive had only one buggy lobby so far.
i was doing zero damage and my nades were also doing zero damage
Odd
I’d chalk that up to beta fuckery tbh
it was. i had to empty full mags to get the kills i did. and i didnt even earn them i stole them 
agreed
Gameplay / movement aside though, the graphics in all modern warfare titles is like intentionally bland AF. All the treyarch (black ops) games have a way better colour pallette. 2042 knocks MW way out the water with visuals
Me on my way to work
my guess is a week maybe 2 at most then there will be another sale at end of season most likely
will it be till teusday
100%. my game image looks so washed out... but even in mw1 was like that
cause i can get it on monday
True
steam sale ends the 27th so my guess is origin has to end there or a couple days after.
k nice then
Never thought I'd see the day a Battlefield game would be faster paced than a COD game 
I played it too and I just got bored of it really quickly. Thankfully it was a free experience lol
MWII is just soooooo slooooowww 
November 22-29(?)
its week 4 rn so 8 weeks
(maybe idk)
thanks
Put 2042 2 week free 
In english, please
they havent done a free weekend in a bit it would be smart
last time they did a free weekend they broke the servers then went on holiday
now would be the time to do it too
why tf does the exodus conquest playlist put in me 24/7 stranded
Yo anyone still play this game?
anyone can help me with my gpu? my gpu percentage by some reason get stuck in a percentage everytime im playing a game and the percentage depends on the game
YES
what yes ?
tell me
depends on how you want to run it, close combat and short barrel is a good smg build, high power and long for ranged, standard or high power and arcom is good for medium
BF4 has half the player count on steam
so does BF1
so does BFV
all three of those have 2-3k players, 2042 has 5k+
I use just the normal red dot on every gun
Ghost Hybrid 1.5-4x for me
CoD MW2 can have 32 person parties. Remind me again what Battlefield's excuse is? Let me clarify this : Battlefield formerly invented 32 person parties to put that question into better perspective (ok maybe Tribes did or something, but close enough). And my feed shows how the EA CEO thinks CoD has lost it's way. Me: " ??????????"
Let me answer your question with another question. Do you enjoy asking dumb questions?
Glitch
I played Portal
I can’t think of a single battlefield game that lets you party up with 32 other people.
but cant get exp anymore
Maybe you where playing on a full restricted server
yes some portal servers have an xp cap on them
Every server will have a icon saying how much exp you can get
Also someone here once said there is a daily cap but it’s so astronomical high that you’d only get there by boosting.
no i played on non portal
i cant get
So you played on the offical servers in portal
Yeah that's glitch
No
or smthg
Maybe play the offical servers
No not the offical portal servers
Like conquest and rush
Breakthough
"Has reached upper limit."
That
Is
yellow
Yeah I've seen it but uhh
See if you can just fix it by closing the game
@stable shadow if you played servers which are capped before it will contribute, the only way you can avoid it is by playing the official portal rotations
or ones which are full xp
it resets in 24h
@remote kiln yea but the problem is i played only on servers with FULL EXP first on Official Portal server
yes first, it's possible you played one unknowingly
No way ^^ 😄
But if i cant get on official Servers
exp then thats a another thing
maybe there is a max exp cap ?
for official servers too ?
there isnt
those on the main page aren't all official gamemodes, stuff like firefight etc are custom gamemodes
you can see it by the description having the creators name

i go short for fast af boi
No i mean not the Servers in Portal i mean Rush, Conquest
mw2 beta kill bf 2042 easy
Wrapped one is better than the other. And as long as you use it at range. Yeah. It makes a difference.
Cool, go tell the COD discord
@fiery shoal add this to your bf2042 bingo card
Good to hear
I finally tried out MW2 beta, the movement was slow. Imma stick with BF for a few more years
I closed down the beta 2 hours in and just played bf 4 and gundam for the rest of the day, didn’t impress me at all
played some ground war, and damn the vehicles played horribly compared to BF
Shocker
Idk why people played MW19 GW and thought MW22’s ground war was gonna be much different or somehow better than BF
I just tried the invasion mode. That shit is devoid of any kind of fun
after some more play time in mw2 i started to enjoy more... specially the smaller game modes... ground war is okay... but yeah, infinity ward just leave "battlefield" game modes to Dice. they can't replicate it... the all out war of battlefield has a unique feeling.
Exactly. MW2 might be good for small scale or the gunplay will feel good or something, but it’s no BF replacement like everyone was screeching about for months
Bro.. is the fps down for a lot of you guys as well?
also people complain maps in battlefield are too open or not enough cover or stuff around... but the map (dunno if theres more than one) that i played in ground war feels claustrophobic.. at least in some parts
MW2 GW is a more enjoyable experience than 2042, especially since DICE refuses to make Exodus Conquest permanent, fix the control issues, or give us a proper server browser with persistent community servers
it was okay for me... i had around 100-110 fps in ground war... sometimes 90 when too much stuff going on
hi
in smaller game modes i had around 120 fps
sometimes 130
playing in recommended settings for quality
pc or consle?
with motion blur and all that stuff turned down
PC
Oh ea or steam?
EA?
It must be bc of of the settings
steam
I appreciate the reply. I have a 3090ti and get insane fps in this game. Right now it's 100+ fps down from what it should be. Just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue
ohh well it must be a bug?
maybe your CPU is bottlenecking you?
Dice has alot of bugs going on
Im kinda freaking out bc of MW2 And BF2042
I have a bad feeling that everyone will go to mw2
doubt
i really want bf be its best
bf will take a hit when mw2 comes out... but will survive.. ground war is okay but is not better than conquest or breakthrough of battlefield
people will go mw2 to play smaller game modes and warzone
im hearing bad stuff from mw2
if they wanna play vehicles and aircraft and have a all out war experience... they will go battlefield
also there are no breakthrough in MW2...
am i wrong or not but isn't bf 2042 like a realistic battle
not really
i like the action
how much u pay for bf
K8 is good for close range
nothing. was a gift
oh lucky
yes, but that image is a visual glitch
🧢 🧢 🧢 🧢 🧢
This game is so overrated
except for the fact that it has less destruction than 2042, and that’s already a low bar
2042? or mw2?
2042
i don’t think it’s reviewed well at all lmao
therefore it isn’t overrated it’s just mid
And I don’t like the new customize think
the plus menu?
Yeah
wtf
It’s stupid
that’s like literally the best thing about the game lol
u aint using it right
I like the idea of changing my attachments mid game but still it’s stupid
how
Because I have played the game in a fucking month
You have played the game in a month?
Change from red dot to 3X
or haven’t?
Haven’t
what’s bad about that?
It’s stupid
I like how you had to change it in the menu screen aka before you spawn in
totally agree.. actually while playing mw2 today i missed my beloved plus system lol
frfr
To me plus system sucks
It’s an easy way to get shot
As you can barely move while having it open
I use it all the time, just gotta make sure you are safe
ima wait for battlefield 7032
Won’t happen
They will never go that far in the future
i mean ur right
Unless ea is an idiot and wants to just wants everything to have lasers that are an instant kill
On really anything
bf sucessful game was bf1 bf4 and bf hard line
Yes
I liked the idea of going back to any other game series never covered aka the First World War and the first time modern combat came around and actual artillery and machine guns came around
oh
yea
Cold War Battlefield pls
They could do multiple theaters: jungle? Vietnam? Desert? Isreal conflict, Island? Falklands
Just do a whole bunch of conflicts
Wide variety of weapons
bunch of people in hardcore conquest just team killing
battlefield, just like that battlefield
battlefield 1776
what should i eate for dinner tho
I hate to say it, really do, but going from the cod BETA to BF2042…
Man everything feels so plastic
COD has such better gun mechanics and movement
cod sucks
So much better
hello
I’ll always be team battlefield but like wtf
What has dice been doing
pizza 🍕
I disagree completely. The movement in 2042 feels so much better. So much less like you’re running through mud, less restrictive.
Like every part of cod feels more polished
BFV's movement feels massively better than 2042
I might wait for mw2 to go on sale or something. I like the beta but idk I usually wait for treyarch cod with zombies. Not much of a multiplayer fan
I wasn’t really talking about if having this or that mechanic made a better game. I’m talking about polished mechanics
Sure. But considering MW2 shares more movement systems with 2042, that’s why I compared it to MW2. Not BFV
Like cod feels so much more in depth and polished
There’s no comparing
I agree with this statement. MW2 feels weirdly slow
They're definitely making some interesting changes to the game.
The perk system I don't quite understand the reasoning for that.
anybody know when s2 is gonna end?
im gonna procrastinate tf out of completing the BP
~8 weeks
from today?
i’m only playing mw2 cause it’s something fresh and new, and i’ve never actually played a modern warfare game
I loved the original modern warfare series
mw2 1v1s were absolute perfection
quickscoping in that game was so good too
Have you played the new cod beta?

Probably Mackay then
this all i use from this server
McKay
Falck for agressive
Falck's great for self-healing
Falck works too you're right
go getting granny
mcdaddy has the fastest strafe in the game use him
Angel also ensures you never run out of ammo
Pizza on the menu?
Yes. It feels like moving through a swamp
that’s what i suggested
👀
lmao
no
the gun mechanics are some what better, like the attachments etc. Movement in 2042 is alot better
Have you guys seen the terminology for the gun stats?
MW2 reminds me of A.V.A from 2011
where?
Recoil Control
Recoil Stabilization
Gun Kick Control
Vertical Recoil Control
Horizontal Recoil Control
Recoil Smoothness
Yeah I completely disagree
What the fuck is the difference between Vertical Recoil Control and Gun Kick Control?
where?
in 2042 or MW2?
MW2
take your time and read
Vertical recoil control: how much your gun recoils up. Gun kick control: how much your gun kicks when first fired.
2042 fell off
it's really straight forward
Yeah lol
What doesn't help is that there is no real numbers in the gunsmith
man what???? you crazy only thing they need to do is nerf the SFAR and fix lag
it does show the difference
I agree
Definitely needed
Ironically, I wasn't the one that pointed this out https://twitter.com/Marksman/status/1573829318781947904
Recoil Control
Recoil Stabilization
Gun Kick Control
Vertical Recoil Control
Horizontal Recoil Control
Recoil Smoothness
Yeah... this isn't confusing at all lol @InfinityWard
800
Y'all T-Pain tweet?
It’s fucking infuriating trying to decipher the difference by 1
It’s like pixels wide
Just give us a number
I’m not pro cod at all lmao
Me either but at least be detailed in the stats if you're gonna give us a system like Gunsmith
I don’t want y’all to think I’m a cod fanboy or something
I demolished people in the beta and it just didn't feel fun
what are some good guns you guys recommend?
Someone called me a hacker in the beta
I dont even know if im good or not in COD the aim assist was doing all the work
The smg that uses the p90 mag
It’s one of the smgs in the beta
PP19?
the pp?
Anyone having issues with friends list tonight? My PC friend and me cannot see each other or add each other back as friends.
You mean the pistol?
We're in #battlefield-2042
Oh i was asking about guns in 2042 LOL
and this guy comes in asking for gun reccomendations
Oh you meant BF2042?
We ARE in #battlefield-2042, man
yea 😆
We were talking about cod, thought you were asking about it
what game do you think he's asking for?
No shit lmao. We were talking about cod. Thought he was asking a question about cod 🤦♂️
What level are you? @coral falcon
Ah okay. Yeah I would recommend the new pistol and lmg
The p90 sidearm is overpowered and the new lmg practically is a laser
For sure, I've used the new lmg a bit
Yeah Ive got the new pistol added to all my loadouts 😆
It's so good when you need it though if you're caught reloading
The m16’s lvg is pretty op too
But the m16 is trash
The portal weapons were half assed put into AOW
i say for starter guns go for the pbx, m5 or dm7
He’s s002
bruhhhhhh
lol I haven't been keeping up with the game news and i have been sucking with the sfar so I needed smth new
Oh yeah the sfar is incredible
There was a headshot damage buff on all assault rifles too last patch
I think it’s 2.25%?
Mhm
Ah, ok
I do too
m5 got nerfed a tad
The m5 with the 9mm mag is GREAT
unfortunately
I been sleeping on it, is the CQC mag still OP?
it’s a very versatile gun, but tbh sfar and avancys and pp beats it
avancys is probably the best assault rifle in the game... used to be BSV but with the nerfs i haven't played with it recently... maybe is still the best all around weapon...
Did anyone here play bf4 before
I think it was just ranged damage?
no, that’s what they nerfed
yeah, guns in 2042 feel much better
We're you good or ok
BF1 is superior
pretty decent
i haven’t played it in a hot minute tho
I'm still a beginner, do you have some tips for choosing good side arms? Trying to find one for the m4 carbine
uh
Thinking of m1911 or 93R
i just used the avancy in this game I finished it's pretty good I'm guessing I need the attachments tho lol
Not very active that's why I asked here
tbh pistols are kinda mid… if you want, my suggestion is to get that revolver that you have to use to get the deagle
I can dm if that's ok
i don’t remember much
also, reddit probably has some options but idk
BFV > BF4. fight me
Idc I just want to play silly game with my buddies
valid
even tho a lot of people disagree, i still think BF1 is the best battlefield at least of the last 10ish years
maybe not ten
but like from BF3-now, BF1 is just the most special to me
i played BF1 a couple of hours on the 10h trial thing in Origin... then a few days later BFV came out, and i prefer BFV
yeah idk what it is but i just never felt right in BFV, i played it on launch, and recently, and i just didn’t really like it
idk, it’s not a bad game
i just think BF1 is more me
me is the other way around.. im not saying BF1 is bad.. i just prefer bfv.. i also prefer ww2 theme
yeah i like ww2 more
this is something weird to say "i prefer ww2 theme"
and there’s a lot of things in BFV i did enjoy
that 2042 should add, but also like i feel BF1 is super grounded, and ik people say “just cause it looks good doesn’t make it good”, but id say the tone and bitter feel is what makes it more grounded, and overall more fun. something i wish 2042 would have more of
i kinda agree
i have this thing, and its basically only in videogames, (and im not saying what is new is always better, cause its not) but in videogames when something new comes out on a franchise, i usually can't go back playing the old games...
i like bfv a lot... but after bf 2042 i can't go back
unless my pc can't run it, i always like to play the most recent and supported game
there are some exceptions... but usually its like that
I'm the same, I get used to the new game. I think that's why I stopped buying COD. It feels like the game is over after 1 year and it got exhausting
i give another example, CIV 5 is awesome.. played many times.. but after CIV 6 came out.. i couldn't go back to 5 lol
I use the mk4 on everything
yeah... cod is the fifa of shooters...
Revolver with pretty high rof
I find it very reliable
Improve perfomance
does anyone know how much the ntw-50 does to tanks after the nerfs?
Nerfs? It keeps getting buffs lol
it used to 4shot heavy tanks but what are the dmg numbers now
Lol huh? It’s never been that high. It does about the same damage the anti material rifles in BFV do
Like 5-10 per shot
Still don’t think it was ever that high. If it only took 4 shots from full health, it would be too op
Might be thinking of the transport vehicles?
no i can link u a video
Guys anyone wanna team up?
what do you have to offer
bp rank 55 im getting this pass done this time bois
It’s sad really the state of 2042
Unfortunately as long as vehicle spam is a problem, the game will never be bot friendly
and no bots will want to play
No
remember when the bolte was pretty much the best vehicle
Still is boke asf
It’s actually incredible that MW2 beta has a better battlefield experience than 2042
I just think it’s time for EA to fire dice on bf and move to a new studio
If you think MW2 has a better BF experience than BF, you clearly haven’t played enough BF lmao
Sounds like a subjective thing tbh, but 90% of the feedback I’ve heard so far seems like it’s about as underwhelming as expected
Compared to the BF experience at least
Compared to previous bf titles yes
It may be a BF style mode but it just will never feel the same as the true chaos a BF title provides
Doesn’t matter what you think of 2042 as a game overall, it still provides the experience
MW2 is ground war is just bot friendly
Bot friendly?
Don’t die over and over to the same huron pilot with 1 hour of game time
Probably because the MW2 vehicles are terrible compared to BF and have an incredibly low skill ceiling
It’s crazy how MW2 accidentally has better vehicle spam counters than 2042
on accident
Shit blows my mind I wish I knew I was in the good days before I left it
And I wish Dice had a playtime requirement for devs

What's the best SMG atm with the new season? Currently running the MP9 or whatever and the AK for AR
Been using that a bit but find the better accuracy with range on MP9 just outweighs the K30 in most fights
Seen clips of that new LMG with no recoil just delete people haha
It’s crazy how I didn’t ask though
Yeah dude DICE has no qa confirmed
The damn thing is point and click
EA*
DICE is the one developing? Lol
sims had an update a month back that literally killed your character 
all EA doesnt have QA
Terminal cancer update
Is that actually true? I seriously doubt it. QA is essential
really? 😟
i mean. idk why they passed an update for a major expansion pack that made your character die in 5 minutes
yeah
high school years dropped and i couldnt play it properly for like a week.
they just drop dead?
I miss the 32v32 😦
they age up every 4 minutes it felt like then die of old age
well now I don't wanna log back into my save lol

It’s definitely because of incompetence, either by qa or the time given to qa
I mean you can be the greatest chef but it doesn’t mean anything if you don’t have taste testers
Just an analogy
So with the avancys i noticed that if you ADS to stop sprinting it takes a second for your trigger to work even though the gun is fully stable
Yeah there’s a ton of bugs right now
Mostly ui related though
hi
Anyone getting a bug where your gun stops shooting for a second then continues?
Could just be lag
Getting good ping?
It’s common
same happens to me. idk why it does that
it’s a result of low quality servers
mimics real like with mis fire ig 
I’d imagine these servers are the cheapest 60 tick ones they could find
Australian servers for you
Just on Exodus Conquest trying to have a good time
I’ve seen everyone have their gun stutter
The best sniper is the NTW
Tuff
SWS*
the DXR
Thank you
dxr is my fav to use
i only use k8 unless using sniper then i use 6x
no they got rid of 64 conquest again so alot of people are playing other games
Is rush active ¿
And like for real ive been trying to get into a match since yesterday but to no avail
try any of them with a server browser. at any time you want, you can take those 32 people and play together.
You can have 32 people join the same server, sure. But you cannot party with 32 people. You party with a squad of 4-5.
previous battlefield's didn't even have a "party" system lol
they had in server squads, that's not a party system
Every game since at least Bad Company let’s you party up with a full squad 4-5 players before joining a game
You open a menu. Invite your friends. Then you join a game. That is a party system
that started after BattleLog and had no limit to the number of friends you could invite
it would attempt to put them on your team if your squad was full
that is an invite system larger than 4-5 people
prior to switch over to a console like setup, we had battle log
in battlelog you just invited people there
And on console you always invited people the same way you do now. A party system
No. 4-5. Always
lmao
You can also invite people to the game mid-game and they'll join.
so you acknowledge you can invite more than 4 to 5 people
You can but they’re not in your party
32 players with communication is a bit much unless it's an organized event of some kind
Your party is your squad. The people you invite before you enter the game.
Not people you invite afterwards and they just get put on your team
so it's functionally equivalent lol!?
you could at least say they would put them on the enemy team you know
which has a very obvious response
Not really. Cause there’s no guarantee that there’s enough room on your team
seethe
Server browser and team switching. Obviously. But that doesn’t change the fact that you could never party with 32 players
admins
which means you can in fact group up with 32 people
no matter what name you want to give it
Getting 32 players on one team for a public session is overkill
it was the functional equivalent
yet there were several servers that did it
32 in a party is over kill in CoD too really
yet they are doing it
i never said it was a good system, but it worked
When you talk about “partying” you talk about the system for partying. Not about if it’s possible to team stack an entire server.
Yes, you could fill an entire team with your friends. But you could not invite 32 players into your party then enter a game. Is what i’m referring to.
Ground war
sure, but that wasn't what I was referring to lol
and you responded to me
ground war is ww3 
Okay, then it’s a classic case of miscommunication.
by you yes
nah
yah
Playing MW2 Ground War makes me appreciate 2042 even more.
lol sure
playing mw22 makes me appreciate 2042 more 
it's not good
well sadly mw2 performs better than 2042, but im sure 2042 will be fixed in a few months..
It’s clear that with WW3, and MW Ground War, nobody can do Battlefield better than Battlefield. And nobody even comes close.
battlefield hasnt done better than BF3 so
We can talk about peaks on the series. But the fact remains the same
2042: terrible performance
1: terrible gunplay
V: i actually like 5 but it's combined arms was weak
4: a worse 3
IMO BF1 stomps BF3. And BF3 is one of my favorites.
Are you saying BF3 had better gunplay than BF1? lmao
BF3 and BF1 gunplay are very similar.
Suppression makes bullets go wooooosh
PC atm
But despite that BF1 is still goated
Considering the feedback from every trailer and whatnot, it was very clearly asked for
it was never asked for
I am not exactly a fan of BF1 but you can't deny that it's one of the most praised Battlefield games out there
Oh it most certainly was
never once did i hear anyone in 3 or 4 ask for WW1
Because nobody thought it could be done.
because it brought on a new fan base
that's fair, but still, no one asked
I fail to see where the negative lies in this point
Before BF1 an arcade style WW1 game was unfeasible.
i mean, im just responding to what you said
i guess? Day of Defeat's WW2 could easily be WW1
there may have been WW1 style Half Life mod but if there was, i dont recall it being popular
dont get me wrong, i actually really like 2042's gunplay
I certainly was tired of Modern battlefield games. I mean we had what, BC1, BC2, BF3, BF4 & BF:H back to back. Fuckin hell I was over the moon to see a classic battlefield setting.
inb4 we get like 5 modern games back to back again
2042's gunplay is better to me than 3's, but it's performance is awful, and console aim assist is insanity
btw BF2 was also modern
We probably will. 
Yeah but 2142 came out in 2006
cod just got done with a ww2 and we had a ww2 a couple years ago so we wont see it again for like 2 battlefields is what i think
ww2 should never come back
Nah. Which is why I didn’t mention BF2. Cause there was a break with modern between BF2 and BC1
BF1's juggernauts were the best thing it brought to the series in terms of gameplay
and then it never came back
And it’s amazing destruction. And Operations. 
if battlefield ends up being "modern" for next few games i prob wont play them.
Behemoths
Loved Behemoths.
Operations was pretty good
Terribly well balanced
Operations reminds me of 1942 having ending texts for whoever won or lost the Battlefield match
kinda crazy how bf1 devs could balance behemoths so well off rip
I could watch the airship crash forever and never get sick of it. Especially when it fell on a town like St Quentin? Ugh. Love it
And 2042 devs can’t add a remove attachments button
you are right about no one out-doing battlefield, but that's about to change soon
😂
"Germany has lost control of its border and soon Berlin will have nothing left to fight with. It is becoming clearer by the minute that the Third Reich is going to fall. When the Army is filled with teenagers, how can one expect to win battles against experienced troops? This failure in the Ardennes sends a chilling message across the Fatherland - Germany must prepare for final defeat."
- Germany losing a match on Battle of the Bulge in Battlefield 1942
id be surprised if someone pulls off what battlefield does
the patents are expiring and the equivalent tech is out in common use engines like unity and unreal engine
you shouldnt be surprised at all lol
Remember the 3 hour long games of frontlines before it had a time limit? Lmao
unity assets
it hasnt happened yet. so i will be surprised 
star citizen is about to push server meshing to have multiplayer games larger than anything that has existed
no one even came close
i dont know, squad is
I’d love to see it. But so far, the attempts haven’t been impressive to me.
Star Citizen is being held back by economy present in the actual game
Squad and Battlefield are on the opposite ends of the field.
Squad's focus is different than Battlefield
it has more team work than battlefield does lol
and?
and battlefield is a combined arms team shooter
you said didn't come close
im cashing out this convo
if it came any closer it would literally be battlefield
The only similarities are that it’s an FPS, has guns and vehicles.
add slow moving jets and raise the ttk
😂
not surprising
Yup
alternatively, establish the scale of what close is and maybe i can agree?
No
What is close is MW Ground War. But it’s still missing some BF DNA
classes, teamwork, a front based spawn system, conquest style game mode
Are we gonna compare Hell Let Loose to Battlefield next?
i mean, again, what is "close"
Let's also compare Enlisted to this, why not
ok, so it sounds like your main focus is on movement and ttk
there it is ^
thats fair
but if you dont weight each gameplay mechanic equally, you end up with a disparity compared to others
BF isn’t really a simulation experience. It’s a casual FPS. More of a sandbox shooter than it is competitive.
well, squad isnt arma and most people who play are casual really
i do see the comparison though
Sure but you go into a game like Squad and HLL with entirely different expectations than you do with Battlefield
And a different mindset
thats just it, we did squad in bf3 before squad did squad lol
same team based tactics with multiple squads working together
the game played faster, that was the main difference
To me it’s a very apples to oranges comparison
sometimes it was just 2 squads, other times it was 32 people
They’re both fruit but they’re different.
im sure, because im guessing you never played an organized match of battlefield with 32 people before
and i want you to
but DICE doesnt apparently
The less pub-stacking stomps the better, really
if you want to maintain a server, you dont stomp pubs 🙂
there was a reason custom servers were full and official servers were empty
Reason why many community owned servers would team scramble or use some kind of balancing system
even if people didnt want to join a community, they would tell us how the teamwork was better there
yeah we would, or split our community members up or other communities
and move people around who were playing together
The point I’m making about games that can’t replicate Battlefield, specifically MW Ground War. Is that they try really hard to be battlefield, but can’t figure out what makes Battlefield work. It’s not that the game is too similar or whatever. It’s just that it comes across that being a cheap ripoff.
lmao
they arent trying though
CoD's studio is more than capable of making a battlefield game
You’re telling me that Ground War is not trying to be Battlefield? It’s literally conquest.
they have more people and more money, but thats not what they think their fan base wants, and they are probably right
It's not really in CoD's identity to try to really replicate it
Plus you can technically just say that CoD's ground war is just slightly bigger Domination
well by that logic any game that has flag capture points wants to be battlefield?
i figured you were at least going to focus on the combined arms
yeah that was pretty much my thought process
It’s not even just about that. It tries to replicate the Rock Paper Scissors. The big maps. The combined arms. The spawn system. Everything.
my opinion is that CoD wants to have players come from BF while maintaining their formula
it doesnt though lol
vehicles arent like battlefield at all
they are like killstreaks
fairly easy to destory, but also fairly easy to farm kills
Sure. But there’s no way any Battlefield player is gonna go from Battlefield to Ground War and be like “this is the better experience ima stay here”
It doesn’t do the formula any better. It just feels like a cheap knockoff.
it's just another mode tacked on with all their other modes
remember what i first said?
It was domination and TDM with a few extra players
Ground war is fun 🙂
yeah it's fun
And they had basically frontlines with War in WAW
$70 worth of fun? ehhhhh
better said, it was never about the party system itself
it was about the ability to play with that quantity of players
group up with them
when CoD is doing, a game that seemingly has no business doing so, and Battlefield isn't, or rather restricting the ability for players to want to group up with other like minded players on large teams, i just don't know
if no else is confused by that. ok.
I mean, I don’t think most people would sit here and say not having a server browser is a good idea
agree
I think it’s a generally accepted here that not having a browser is dumb as hell
some of the best counter arguments ive heard is usually related to badmins, which i tend to agree with
and why i thought Portal was going to be much better
And yes, COD doing it, if anything, is funny.
and hey maybe it will, but if they abandon it because some suits dont care about it, well, none of the fans i know will not be surprised
lol missed a key word there before the edit 🙂
This makes it completely clear why Stranded was designed the way it was. DICE were literally planning on abandoning 128p all together starting at Season 2, but apparently changed their minds.
Good
128p is the backbone experience. I don’t wanna be forced to play the exodus playlist to play the new maps.
yeah, i think when people were asking if 128 player maps is possible, they meant with all of the features and destruction of 64 player maps
but yeah, to abandon it, that would be worse
I guess. But they shouldn't have jammed 128 players into a map that was clearly designed for 64p.
64 players on the base maps is 
all i can imagine is time crunch
I think the new map works just fine with 128
I strongly disagree.
It’s a little disjointed. But at least there’s cover
It’s not the best map in the game. But it’s fine
Packed like sardines
there are players who like constant fighting and chaos and there are those who dont
Battlefield was about player choice for quite a long time
that has changed recently, at least to me
It was also about having maps that have experience differences. Like infantry only maps. Maps with only tanks. Maps with all vehicles. Ect.
Cept in 2042 every map has every vehicle. Cause fuck it
I think that's the core problem with the matchmaking system. It forces these two factions of Battlefield players to play with each other, when in previous games they congregated in their owns servers with whatever rotation they preferred.
At least the DLC maps don’t become dead after a month
Cause everyone got sick of playing the same 4 maps constantly
I'm not sure how that relates to what I said.
It doesn’t. It’s a general statement.
realistically thats a good amount of playtime and if you continue playing you easily got your money's worth relative to other games
hell id be playing more if it wasnt for the low player count preventing disabled cross play and the bugs/server instability, from silent footsteps, to invisible players to the ADS bug
and it's better than it used to be, but after months .. actually what, a year?
I haven't experienced any invisible players really, or silent footsteps
There's people here with like 600 hours already
I'm in the thousands
I don't feel sorry for them when they say that content is dry
They played themselves
ive been weekly reset days only since preseason 2ish
invisible is rare, but the footsteps? it usually occurs with console players, but ive even had allies be silent and confirmed this with other players
how about parachute not opening when it should?
or if you use an underbarrel attachment on an AR and exit a vehicle you cant ADS?
It'll open but you can't open it too late
this is cod 2 it had capture the flag and max player was 64
but you can
haha that's the point
Older CoDs had 64 players but the maps were made for like 16
cod 3 best multiplayer
Not to mention explosive spam so what you'd get is spawn, not be able to move and die a lot. Like having potentially 8 spawns where you literally just see your own dead body immediately
Okay. But that’s not ground war
exactly but they have done 64 player stuff too and vehicle stuff too
I don’t remember COD 3 having very many fans

catch me on the dam map glitching into the tower
CoD 3 is probably the least liked CoD game

it was exclusive to nintendo console i think
🤔
Doesn’t change the fact that MW2 ground war feels like wish.com Battlefield
No it was on Xbox and Playstation
COD3 wasn’t exclusive. I played it on Xbox 360
it is not battlefield stuff 😂😂😂

dice should steal mw22 sound 
Best thing MW2 has going for it is the pretty guns
why do you think if a game has 64 players and vehicles they are making battlefield

and that's basically it
Because it has the same exact spawn system, conquest, combined arms gameplay.
It’s pretty clear who it’s geared for
man im craving some butterscotch 
Get some butterscotch candies. Love those things
1am 

soo if a game let you spawn in vehicles it is battlefield ?

You can spawn on your squad, vehicles, flags, deploy point.
C’mon man.
You’re not blind I assume
hm, can you spawn on your squad in ground war 2?
Yes
if a game has 64 players and vehicles it doesnt mean they are making battlefield game

Right. But when Battlefield adds tactical sprint it’s copying COD

ngl i never said that
i dont think 2042 was the first to do that
That’s what people say tho
you can search in search bar
people say a lot man will you listen to everybody

I do listen to a lot of people
But do people wanna listen to you?
Some do
that's nice but don't forget to use your brain 

i think if ground war really wanted to be like battlefield they would have revives
Too much teamplay for the average COD player
Forgot about that tbf
you have a perk also that will let you self revive
and im not sure if i heard properly, but i swear i saw the term :"custom playlists" somewhere
true
it's kind of like being "downed"
since you can take damage
Also second chance pro used to let teammates revive you
Back in the day
People didn’t really do it cause fuck second chance.
On what gun
i think it does more harm than good. you can see it through walls and floors
Are you using close combat ammo?
instead of laser use a horizontal muzzle and call it a day
If you’re using it as an SMG, sure. But as an AR, no
Using extended mag short barrel?
That’s what I think works best on the M5
depends on the mode/map
i use extendo or high power with m5
Not the biggest fan of that gun tho tbh
generally i would avoid it, but if you are indoors close, then hip firing is good last i played
the m5?
Yeah it’s just okay
easily one of the best guns in the game
LWG grip is good if you’re mobile
i strafe so i use whatever one has better aim while moving
with short barrel you come close to out shooting a vector and you can damage vehicles with underbarrel attachments plus AP ammo
with single fire and a few attachments you can counter snipe
The vector is one of the best in the game but I still prefer using the PBX over it
every single situation
yeah vector is tough to beat, kinda drops off, and cant damage vehicles though
for role specific, yeah i hear that
i dont know the new guns though
AVNSYS or something?
As far as ARs go. SFAR and AK are more enjoyable to use for me.
The Avancys is just amazing
SFAR has always been really good. But everything else I feel like just got worse
So it became a standout.
nah there was a point where it got nerfed
but it could be a combination of server hit reg problems lol
It’s pretty good. As long as you’re ADS
cancel that this is the updated one
Solid build. Though I’d use the normal red dot over the one with the arrow. I don’t like that one much.
I only use it on the BSV cause it’s the only red dot available.
lmao
It’ll be good until you get the LWG grip
Honestly the LWG is the best grip all around.
Unless you’re really trying to hipfire. Which I feel like is not very good on this game
Or you’re using a gun that you don’t move much
it's frame takes up quite a lot of the sight picture
I use the Kobra grip on the AC42 for example. Cause I tend to stand still when I shoot that gun
im pretty sure extended is better to run in most if not all situations, the velocity you get from high powered is kind of thing you can adjust for
Yeah. I literally bought that one SFAR skin for the clean red dot.
Whatever you like the most man. Stick with it
I’m only speaking from my experience/opinion
im really not a fan of skating the line of "pay to win", but thats not a you thing, thats a dev thing
When you grow up, are you gonna be the Joker?
Definitely
lol
nah green for enemy brighter dark purple for more natural so i ignore it.
thats pretty much why i posted the message i did about 32 person parties
64 person parties needs to be added asap
if i hear that the general community doesnt want them at all, or i dont know...hates team work lol... then id be like, ok i guess it's time to find a new game lol. but that isnt what im hearing at all, and fairly consistently
I don’t even know 64 people
I’m not against it. I’m just saying. That’s a lot of people
you could just play there and find experienced team oriented players that would involve you regardless of whether you were part of the community
i know.
it's very hard to maintain that number
which is why there were many communities.
lets put it this way, it's going to get pretty weird if warzone/DMZ expands their party size. i dont think they will, but yeah, think about that.
i wanna say its around .6
i could be wrong tho
its 2.4/2.3 for reg reload so an educated college try guess would be 2.8/2.9
Large parties/platoons should never come back to bf
They're like the #1 cause for 1 team steamrolling the other
Which should never happen in bf.





