#battlefield-2042
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the dev in here that thinks lag only exists between a pc and a modem
it's not, it's the inherit anticheat to the game, not custom ones that players have
happens on official servers too
anyway, christ, you people hate good players.
don't piss deco off talking about hosting servers!

DICE do aswell
just read their comments on competitive players
anyway buff all vehicles maybe then the player base will realize the plethora of options to take them down
Competitive battlefield player XD
Yes i am well aware DICE do as well, but christ, saying good players shouldn't be rewarded for being good?
not me at all
and maybe notice that rao exists
What the fuck kind of mindset is this.
I wanna see 'em actually.
I mean i feel any time anyone says anything bad about dice or even EA they go into defensive mode lile their the victims when its them that screwed up
they are rewarded, they get nerfed and forced to use simething else
DICE maybe victims EA is definitely the monster in EVERY situation
because good players in vehicles are a legit problem, a vehicle dominating a lobby has never been fun for the rest of lobby and never will be. simple fact.
I mean dice were the ones who released bf5 and bf2042
battlefield is a casual game
when did it all go wrong
Yup
Your mother
I am aware of that but i am also aware that it probably took the player in the vehicle a very long time to get to the level they are at, and I can't imagine thinking about that and acting like that player is in the wrong.
but there are multiple ways of taking down a vehicle....
It's a shame the game is on life support, because 2042 has the best infantry movement of the series
in every BF there is
People should be rewarded for getting better at things, games included.

2042 is literally THE MOST ANTIVEHICLE
Best of one thing, worst over almost everything else
yeah you heard that right, no conquest, no rush, no nothing, 5v5 
For as much as you people like to throw "skill issue" around, you hate people with actual skill.
yes reward them! all the way until they become the unbeatable sweaty guy on Southpark
honestly god forbid some poor noob is trying to learn an armored vehicle in my games cuz im flying towards that mf and c5'ing him
Movement on infantry is a big facet. It's why I continue to play. Compare it to the MW2 beta and it's night/day
Skill issue
5v5, so domination, most likely.
Feel like this is lacking context a bit.
Skill issue
yeah yeah keep proving my point
When is BF2042 going to be fully released
domination is a 20 player mode, 5v5 is CQB
skill issue is thrown around here mostly as a joke tbh lol
I honestly don't mind the moment, but I'll take average movement to good gun play and working mechanics any day of the year
Skill issue
Domination is technically a CQB mode, it's on TDM sized maps, it can definitely be played in 5v5.
Gunplay is good in 2042 when it works
This year, it's meant to compete with mw2


standard gamemode should be gungame and after guns you get vehicles until you get to the jet
I ain't joking.
About 75% of the time lol
then its a melee to win
Wait when
it was never used though
it works if you troubleshoot the connection between your console and the modem- said someone smarter than me
you can listen to the interview here https://youtu.be/OI7ekv9w3ws
At the Battlefield 4 event in Stockholm we were given follow up lectures on various aspects from the game. I bring for you here my breakdown overview of Frostbite 3 and its role and position within the development of Battlefield 4 and the whole series.
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See the Full BF4 footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6hlIeNd...
I've definitely seen 5v5 competitive matches in BF4 running Domination.
okay well thats just u i guess
if they wanna sweat that hard they should go play an esports game instead of farming people trying to have fun
they were custom matches that had their rules altered to match CQB
Orbital malding
actually chillin
yes but those were still competitive matches, the cup was run for money.

75% of the time with a game that's literally an fps where its biggest component is shooting isnt impressive, that's like a driving game where you can drive sometimes or an rpg where you can only go to one new location a day, or a soccer game where the players cant actually play soccer

it would have been a one time thing then, and still isn't where DICE were aiming for the game to go
Dawyne "The Rock" Johnson
the only time someone is farming in a vehicle is if they're in a bot lobby, using stealth heli, and (again) no one is using Rao or stinger or a wildcat
Dwayne the cock johnson
Obviously not, but still, it was very possible.
I mean sure. I'm not skeeting my pants over it, but all told the game is keeping me sufficiently entertained. Just enough good movement and gunplay and memes
Dwayne the wok johnson

just finished a session of bf2042. It was funf today. Very unexpected
Ragdolls in 2042 are underappreciated
yeah right
gang
gang
you can force a player to not enter a revive stage using the ragdoll system
wanda pogging
what if they just really like Battlefield and that's why they've played so much to get to the level they're at. I'd say DICE would be stupid to not want to keep those type of players around, you know.
Lol on hardcore I did that to a guy for like 10 minutes and he was raging
you can do it on the regular gamemodes aswell as if it's high enough it counts them as dying in a vehicle
prioritising a small "dedicated" minority at the expense of majority would actually be detrimental
pretty busted but still funny
lol battlefield 3 was one of the most hated titles in the franchise because of casual mechanics what are you talking about
Coulda fooled me. I loved bf3 as did everyone I played with
battlefield 3 which had unprecedented success and is regarded as the peak of the series
ok
remember the suppression system?
you know why that exists the way it does right
I'd rather not 
Gamers will always find things to complain about
Prioritizing casual gameplay is what lead to 2042. It started in BF1 with the limited movement and the slide nerfs, and then went to BFV with the questionable weapon balance (Type 2A in particular), and up to 2042 with all of it's issues.
yeah big non surprise from DICE but it was a deliberate decision so casual players would be able to "equalise the playing field"
and it was defended by them aswell
This is done in a lot of games. See: wallrunning in Apex early development
I liked watching some of the bf4 comp matches it was very interesting did they ever bring back bf comp after 4?
I miss it
Not in any official capacity.

You think they ever will?
There were smaller tournaments in 2042 Rush around the time it launched, but those weren't official.
Not for 2042 lol
i really donât understand this anti vehicle attitude in BF
I doubt it.
itâs so weird
Iâm talking after 2042
no and professional players were actively laughed at multiple times by DICE after the 4 team departed
DICE seem to really hate competitive play, as well as competitive players.
My gut says no
half of my satisfaction playing this game is destroying vehicles
I donât even main a single one Iâm just a tank hunter
they only started finally fucking listening thankfully with 2042
which is why Floris was hired
I'm not anti vehicle tbh, proper combined arms gameplay makes things fun for everyone
Oh wow I didnât hear about that
yeah but here we are, over 9 months after launch, and input is still broken due to crossplay.
Listening to professional players is dumb
I mean "pro" bf players are a joke so I would have laughed as well
bf1/5 professional players and I quote were told to "get better", by DICE
I can't tell if this is a bit or if you're actually this dumb, orbital
Rare dice W
as DICE has done for the last decade they have a bad habit of actually fixing the priority stuff way too late
I wouldnât listen to âpro BF playersâ either like this game is casual and even if youâre wrecking in a vehicle youâre mostly just chilling anyway cuz youâve mastered said vehicle
Like their S E R V E R S?
sounds like they were huffing their own farts a bit.
those ttk changes?
yeah that was used as the reason to defend them


you donât actually believe thatđ
No Iâd say 2042 is a very casual game
pros wouldn't deal with this server performance
I mean, I would listen to 'em. They know how the mechanics work, they know how they're used, they know the problems they have.
it's a skill based game, suck it up
it's a casual game, suck it up
to encourage team play but itâs not as sweaty as COD in a way where movement is so crazy
oh yeah for sure
the actual fun mechanics all got taken away

Besides, competitive BF has it's roots all the way back in Battlefield 2.
we've got 32-64 players who can all equip a TV guided missile now simultaneously
are you aware of all the esports tournys broadcasting BF2042??
no
funny you mention it because Floris was planning for 2042 to become an eSports 
Squads exist to play with friends and work as a team thatâs also why classes will be added to encourage team play
but who are âpro bf playersâ tho like thatâs such a niche area in gaming lol
exactly my point, it is casual
Floris, the employee at DICE, is a former professional player for battlefield
those people who come in and ruin everyone's fun
Relaaa, Nickel, FocusBF, Enders...
yeah well they are now thank fuck
design choices for the last 4 games where they didn't killed them

it's pretty clear which one is more, beneficial to this franchise
Enders
still haven't found a way to block his yt channel
cry about it.
yknow what idek what their opinions are prolly the same shit I say with maps and how the avancys has no recoil
I canât wait to see the campaign for the next bf you think itâll be competitive?
Lol no
every single and I repeat single game of the last 4 titles were killed by illogical decisions DICE made that in some form tried to benefit casual players
It was sarcasm lmao
but apparently casual players can't listen to the history of their own franchise
really quite something
Casual players> comp players
someone's brain is swelling to much damn lol
but I still disagree that BF is a non casual game
every good thing too
đ
See Alex knows


I never really use vehicle's in battlefield 2042 & what vehicle would you recommend for me to tryout I play bf2042 on ps4 with a controller
Oh of course, random EA employee coming out of the woodwork to advocate for this ridiculous viewpoint.

Battlefield has always felt casual to me. Chill, do meme stuff, grief with vehicles
the competitive scene in BF is so non existent man why even bring it up
True weirdchamp moment
Here we treat everyone nice, no matter where they are from.
tldr jets and tanks are a no go, others are serviceable, I'd recommend the condor
damn dude i literally just posted an emoji lol
thats just how they are
Lmao
@ripe hedge get back to work, SLAVE
oh i'm sure, i'm sure that's why i've just had to sit here and listen to people who unironically think that people who are good at the video game should not be rewarded for that
Silver tips just needs some copium itâs ok
bruh cool down
too busy playing MW2 and Valorant sorry
At the same time wow
Impressive
Based riot games consumer

Alright thank you because I do wanna get a vehicle to mastery 40
You don't have to agree, you just can't be an ass about it
you didnt have to do anything... no one said they shouldnt be rewarded either did they?
Spill the tea whatâs your go to gun in mw2?
People who are good at the game should be punished for that*
M4?????
what if Jett is the new assault specialist
easiest with the condor you get assists for your gunners killing other vehicles and infantry + xp for them spawning in
just beware the wonky controls with controlling hover mode
@ripe hedge is baddlefield a comp game or a casual game. Asking for a friend
FTAC Recon â¤ď¸
& what happens if I am put on Russia team what vehicle would you recommend on Russia team for a console controller player?

there's your answer
@fiery shoal :|
âEasy to pick up, hard to masterâ perfect description
he obviously said that after your claim and thats clearly ironic... you cant be serious
super hind
the non-casual bf mode that's completely dead?
anyone in FNB?
that's for incursion, not 2042
incursions flopped
Lines up with the rest of the bullshit he's been saying for the past 30 minutes or so.
sure
Every game can be competitive or casual, depending on how you play it.
"Casual" or "Competitive" is a mindset
i played a medically concerning amount of Dota and i HATED playing ranked
How many showers do you guys take per week?

in the actual game
I do play a lot of conquest too so condor & super hind can be really great in conquest huh?
yes they can down helicopters by themselves + take multiple TGMs and RPGs to destroy
not sure the question...
If you had to say, which is 2042 geared more to: the casual player or the comp shooter player?
ranked in MOBAs are just a cesspool of toxicity and nonsense tbh
I asked if anyone was playing FNB?
not the chat the game
battlefield and halo are the most casual pvp fps franchises
Wow so both helicopters have a lot of health that's insane!
how anyone can look at a large scale combined armed sandbox shooter without sbmm or a ranking system and say "thats a competitive fps" is beyond me
Take it up with deco lol
word
especially when the way to "earn" a vehicle to triple your kdr is a matter of clicking it faster than your teammates...
it certainly can be with the right ruleset. BF4 definitely supported it.

I find it hard to explain to ppl that a game can be casual and yet you can still be good at the game I just like the more time you put in a game it just makes sense that you progressively get better but if you donât then hey thatâs fine youâll learn further down the road
ive never said a word about SBMM lmao
no one said you said anything about sbmm
not at you nyphon the other guy
any suggestions
Magic
Sundance
"no one" includes the other guy
Lol
if i give you an answer my company slack will light up like a christmas tree
.., he just said take it up with me
No balls
yes.. the topic of bf being competitive....
Reading comp is tough for some

or you can just narrow what you're saying 
like maybe ppl just Wana run into the fray like itâs the beaches of Normandy and drop 60 but in every game thinking up a strategy will always get you farther than the bullet catcher players
It's not a comp game. That simple enough for you?
I've said this before but BF1 marks the time when DICE forgot how to make a game that can cater to multiple types of players, and took a very casual/"immersion focused" approach to it. Which made the game worse for the more serious type of players.
I never said it was a competitive game
I literally said, it's the easiest
that simple enough?
if its not competitive or casual what is it?
wow we all misread what deco typed!
we are dumb and can't read
Alex gave you the answer to that question
Do it for the lols
the games trying to cater to both communities
the franchise 
as much as i like alex, thats obviously a predefined PR statement
not 2042
don't pressure him, he's a Dev
"if i give you an answer my company slack will light up like a christmas tree" is more telling
it is, but it's not wrong
lol sure

absolutely no indications of it not being a casual title other than the bare minimum baseline of "its competitive because you shoot other people"
he can't give his own opinion, neither should he lol

bro I think he just wants to get thru the work day without any drama, understandableđ
if he wants to keep his position
which pvp fps is more casual than bf
When r we getting skins for the aek971 or the aks74u???? C'mon dice
Battlefield is big larp fps
skins for portal guns?

i would have said BR games but those even have sbmm...
br is also inherently sweaty
this is so real cuz off the top of my head I canât name any lol
Why the gun segregation dice WTF!! PORTAL GUN RIGHTS
i blame streamers for the current sweatiness of BR lobbies
anyone up for some hazard zone? we need 2 people
My frag needa skin c'mon
BR was always gona get sweaty it was just a matter of time
Any1 up for larping I have a milsim server with a good rotation?
halo infinite.. if it wasn't a complete mess
Halo infinite is a desert
true
It's because battlefield has always been casual
Anyone hyped for the new MW tho?
:BadBoy:
Lol no
I like mw2 but I won't be buying it
It's also supported a more competitive play style since Battlefield 2, competitive matches were indeed a thing in that game.
i think ppl are saying BF is not casual because of team competitiveness but I see nothing wrong with that ofc the better team should win
Bf2 had a whole roleplay stealth dlc
That only stopped with BF1, because DICE forgot how to make a game that supported multiple types of player.
which one? đ
bf1 rev or bf4
Do y'all rp in 2042? Cuz I do
Every game can be competitive or casual, depending on how you play it.
"Casual" or "Competitive" is a mindset
I use to RP in bf5 with my friend super fun lol
the patch release date for 2.1 got leaked as the 27th
Damn, prob gonna buy it for the campaing tho tbh
Krout rp
i dont mean you are actually reading from a script to clarify
Renewal is getting Renewed eh, eh
I just say the scrubbed end of game voice lines, does that count?
he has a point tho
doesn't change that bf is casual tho 
It was a PR answer
yea, i play bf like an absolute sweat so i get that perspective, but it was a non answer really
But its true, a game can have a competitive framework and can be played in a totally casual way.
LOL is a competitive framework, and still has shit like ARAM
DOTA has clearly "casual" play heroes like Techies that are just for the joke
Rocket League is a competitive game and yet there is nothing preventing you from doing Demolotions Only match and having fun with it
Battlefield is built around a competitive framework and yet spending your whole match trying to make Jeep Stuff or chucking C5 from behind a bush
so Alex when is the rorsch mk1 being added to 2042
U tried smite? Unlike those games smite has awsd movement and 100% skillshots including basics
are you using "competitive framework" as like... "you shoot other people, which by definition is competitive"?
They added the m1 carbine and bren and m95 .50 also the 249saw
not enough we need the railgun
I think comp framework here means thereâs winners and losers
which is like every game tho
Nah i gues theoretically i see it as "The main goal of the game is to win over another team(s)"
2042 has like 80 guns at the moment spanning from WW2 to 2042
why do you want that lmao
Biggest gun Library and variety of all the previous battlefields not including vehicle
why wouldnât we want thatđ
its the best weapon in 4 and 2042 is a futuristic game kinda missing it
why its the best weapon
it locks onto enemy vehicles + 1 shots infantry
If it was futuristic it be 2142 , this is more of a modern take
i feel like that isnt a basis for defining a genre even further. generally speaking, yes all online fps are competitive, so using that baseline how do you further define fps games?
LETS GOOOO Iâve been going hard with m4 itâs it hits the right spot
I still think it's a shame that BF1 incursions didn't actually release. The test range would've been an appreciated addition to the game.
Plus the gamemodes seemed like they would work fine from the descriptions of them i saw.
Id preferred hazard zone to be hardcore
HZ is probably the most comp. mode same with KotH. I wonder why they were just not played as much.
who wouldn't want it
I like HZ a lot and am a total shill for it.
Hazard Zone?
it forces comms and teamwork.
Eh...
hazard zone is cool... but its pointless.
which is the only thing lacking in a true comp scene
HZ is pretty fun Iâm ngl
Hazard zone needs that extra oomph, with hardcore settings
whatâs hazard zone do again?
because people dont come to battlefield for comp gameplay, they come for casual
i tried it like.. 3 times, teammates were trash, never tried again
isnât it like a Co op game mode
Tarkov game mode
It always just seems like a pale imitation of Tarkov to me, like it saw what Tarkov was doing, but lacked the mechanical complexity to really take it on directly.
Get data drives extract pretty much
its not even remotely similar to tarkov.
Spawn, loot, extract
If i were to describe it I would use Tarkov as a reference point.
@ripe hedge you gonna play that mw2 DMZ mode when it drops thatâs what Iâm excited for
they are both "extraction shooters"...
Thats the problem with terminology, that there isnt a stablished definition
What is "Competitive"?
That "One person or team has to win over the others"?
or "The game supports a variety of matchmaking options to stablish an accurate ranking of skill and abilities over its players"
or "This game has an active and stablished E-Sports presence?"
or all of the above?
yeah, but Tarkov has a lot more going on than HZ.
Dmz is basically just another tarkov game mode
Basically
for me is more similar to Dark Zone in Division
No dip, I feel that if hz was hc settings it be better
^ just a shame comms got added so late
What do you mean by hc settings?
Hardcore settings
No hud, 50% health
you don't even loot in hazard zone... just the extraction aspect is similar
No hud would actually be slappin
yeah no that wouldn't change anything, it'd probably make it worse, cause it's just the same game with everyone having less health now.
It wouldn't be any different than a bad Portal server.
It be way more tactical, intense, and rewarding
no it wouldn't.
Yes it would
Everyone having less health does not make a game suddenly more tactical.
Tarkov is Litteraly no hud fast ttk
It does
i think in terms of an fps that is by default competitive by pure definition, you further clarify the intention of the game with its features. yes by definition any vs fps shooter is competitive, that doesnt make it a competitive fps though imo.
Makes u think
But Tarkov actually has armor that works.
And different bullet types.
And proximity voice chat.
stealth heli with the rorsch mk1 anyone?
theres not weapon/gear loot, just the data points for currency
and multiple extracts
iâm not a part of this conversation but competitive shouldnât be battlefield (as in the term that you have to be competitive, ie you can be less combative and more supportive, and take things at your own pace rather than being forced to win every encounter)
anyways, hi alex
2042 has high powered, sub sonic, and standard issue rounds
yeah but it doesn't have armor that works, not like Tarkov does.
Ik, bf is more for rp and sanbox
Plus it doesn't even have the same health system that Tarkov does.
Thereâs no point in arguing with silver they always have to be right no matter the argument
They them
You never presented any counterpoints, Preston.
I did earlier but got yelled at
But Doom Eternal is an FPS is it not?
Ultrakill too
hell, Hyper Demon just released, that also qualifies as an FPS doesnt it?
Are those "Competitive" ?
Don't be bitter that you lost the argument.
We're still going, hc Bett for hz
I didnât lose any arguments against you lmao
hazard zone was cool, and they had good intentions.. but was a failure overall.. im still waiting for some company to make a more casual approach tarkov... the first company to do that, will hit the jackpot.
Youâre just in denial and need to cope a little friend
isnât doom single player tho, i think competitive in this sense is just like you have to be able to take on everyone (as in multiplayer) with ease, however i dunno i just opened discord and saw alex and i wanted to say hi, and i saw competitive and was interested
"yes by definition any VS fps", i did try to clarify that the fps has to be played against people in some form to qualify or that statement
I really like these "think questions"
Hardcore settings, and still waiting for the emancipation proclamation to not segregate portal guns and classes
how do we think, what is a question, what is knowledge?
Metaphysical energy
mate all you did was bring up the gold knockdown shield getting nerfed because pro players who you yourself claimed did not watch did not like it, and then when someone else said that the gold knockdown shield was indeed broken and warranted the nerf it got, all you had to say was "skill issue".
Consciousness is metaphysical
enroll in IB: Theory of Knowledge
i dont think any SP FPS has claim to a competitive fps definition, that doesnt mean people cant create their own ways of defining skills and compare, like with speedrunners or scoreboards
edit: hence making a competitive scene that was unlikely intended from the creators and definitely not supported by them as well
what about speed running, technically thatâs competitive
ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
I agree having a hardcore mode with no hud would make it more tactical in the sense people need to be more conservative and take cover a lot more
me too, love a civil back and forth on peoples opinions and interpretations too
I feel 2042 has to fast of a movement, I seem to enjoy the slower movement some portal servers have
yes, but much like battlefield, its community centres around its multiplayer, and if there is no competitive framework, the multiplayer dies
Exactly đŻđĽđŻ
im sure people dont like to hear it, but thats how it works
And MaTe I won the argument so keep crying
wait how does a single player gameâs community focus on multiplayer
i did touch on that, which is community driven, aka not intended by the creators
Wrong, dead wrong boi,
Bf4 had poop netcode
No comp
makes sense
Thrived
BF4 had comp actually
It's netcode was so poop it prevented all hopes of comp
I'm saying, short lived
but it still had it.
and scrims with more competitive focused players happened outside of tournaments for money.
also, taking Fallout 76 as an example, that is a traditionally single player game (alike doom), and thatâs how the community treats it, there is a Firestorm-like game mode that not a lot of people play or enjoy because itâs not what that game is, and even then, not a lot of the players partake in PvP parts of the game, cause itâs a single player type game, people tend to work together rather than against each other
because battle etc existed in eternal based on a competitive type inspiration
framework
battlefield is not made for scrims
comp players what they want:
The ability to flex, - leaderboards/ KDA "play of the games" "best of the match"
Ability to grind to unlock better gear/attachments that give an advantage.
I suppose the only thing its missing is the abilty to play with people your own rank. You have a great match then thrown into a 128 player lobby next round with a team that runs in and dies.
Would ranking up based on kills be a good idea?
Ur wrong
BF4âs netcode was fixed tbf. It took them a while but they fixed it
itâs still a single player game and a single player franchise, i mean i could get what you mean, but it isnât a competitive as in i need to beat someone in a battle type of game
Fallout 76 is such a good game, swear I love ganking lowbies in power armor
76 has proper pvp
They still happened.
you dont need to me to say it, overwatch is the biggest example
But it's not known for it
it needed an entirely new game lmao
LMAO
yeah game is fun, i never do pvp tho, but i have a group of friends where we work together to build cool stuff, plus pvp is completely optional
Overwatch is a completely different game bruh what
I can be terrible and still get a red name badge with enough hours. What if there was a deranking/comp scene.
okay but it still happened, nobody ever claimed it was known for that.
idk.. bunch of what if's
you dont - but single player isnt the focal point of discussion here, its the multiplayer component
True, high risk realms and br were good 2
Just cuz one kid got autism from vaccines doesn't mean they cause it
ok ig, iâve never played doom eternals multiplayer, because as a doom fan i usually just play for the campaign
oh christ we're devolving to this level of argument?
đđđ
i also love the special ops
doom is a meh
Doom eternal mp is poop, the previous doom had proper mp
a true comp player knows kdr or any individual stat other than w/l means nothing. unlocking gear or advantages is counter competitive as well
comp players want fair and balanced gameplay, minimal rng, sbmm/ranking system, and a few other aspects im sure im missing
adding sbmm to bf is a joke imo, theres absolutely no way to define a players skill when theres some thousands ways to play the game, especially when you can randomly select a vehicle and suddenly perform 3x better
theyâre so hard tho mainly cause i havenât played in so long and i am only like level 45
and thats totally fine, but you cant have multiplayer aspects without centring around a competitive framework, in some format, people get bored and move onto something else
probably why iâve never played eternal mult
not all pvp is competitive.
on a very basic level, yes it is
by absolutely bare minimum definition, yea it is
well competitive in some aspects, not entirely, like battlefield, again you can play as support and be competitive in that, or be assault and competitive in that, but there isnât one overall complete competitive aspect, same is true for overwatch, but at a higher extent cause you can be more competitive overall
never say there's no way.
It could be an entirely different character model
It's not all CSGO
but by it's very definition, PVP is inherently competitive.
Sometimes people like to commit stolen valor online doing ops on El Alamein
playing hopscotch against your niece by definition is competitive
Russia vs Ukraine
youre confusing competitive, with competitive frameworks, frameworks are the system designs of games, not the e.g. esports mode or whatever
weapons unlocks levels etc, are all frameworks
Also comp saying you don't want to grind for attachments is silly. Apex you need to play to unlock characters. Its not uncommon.
No I'm not, ur saying all games need to have plat ranks and tourneys to have a lifespan when they don't
Takes 10 years to get a character in apex
getting advantages outside of the moment to moment gameplay is counterintuitive to a fair/balanced comp scene. hence why comp players dont want it
They do.
who said that?
i don't recall anyone ever saying that.
Deco
I don't recall Deco ever saying that.
He basically implied that
if a comp player wants advantages because "lul i play more" they arent wanting a fair and balanced competitive game...
I think you're misunderstanding what he's saying.
Explain it as if I'm a 4 year old
How well do you think HZ meets the comp needs you stated?
They really want the grind to be there, truly.
Nadia
Cronus
no, i didnt
i dont want to sound elitist, but i feel a TRUE competitive player will only care to grind for skill/ranking
*or items that dont give an advantage to players in game
Explain again
Nadia is so funny. People dont realize shes trolling and its entertaining đ
What ltg for wz?
i just did, read it
Wen?
If its based on RNG then no, But its based on time spent in game then sure. Otherwise Card games and Apex wouldn't be popular.
only have a few matches so i REALLY cant comment on that, but pretty sure theres no sbmm, balance is off, and its largely rng based. its like a step up from conquest but i wouldnt say HZ falls under a "competitive fps" designation
Hc settings it be more interesting and with all the weapons available like the ak
See when someone asks me about competitive game thingies, this is the same "WELL I THINK THAT...."
Thats the problem, everyone has a different concept. Too many games. Too many variables. đ
Alex just sipping his tea. đľ
Its healthy discussion and fun
I just want to see the ability to have players Shine and work towards something.
The community vibe of "i achieved this" "i'm awesome ."
theres always rng in games, it just matters to which degree.. even csgo has rng in spread.
but if a game is BASED on rng theres going to be moaning from people taking it seriously because they got screwed over
hence why "true" comp players dont want that
maybe true isnt the word, but purist
We need to come as a community and de-segregate the guns, imagine playing on us and having access to the bf3/bc2 classes and weapons at the same time as the 2042 specialists and weapons
you know it
its time for lunch so i wont be responding for a bit
i think there's one thing that we can all agree on
Suppression was not a good mechanic.
But really, the only standard is how to make the game into a tournament so Org's can scout players and earn the org money.
Yes it was
no it wasn't.
Twas
it really wasn't.
It was immersive
yeah but it was ass from a gameplay perspective, imagine not being able to hit someone because they're shooting and missing you.
That's why when u snipe in bf4 u have a squadmate to suppress the enemy
Covering fire when pushing an objective
Nah.
I bet u didn't like leaning either
Leaning is fine. Wasn't ever that useful, but it wasn't terribly annoying.
Ill retreat back into my Happy unopinionated helpful mode now.
What about fov when aiming down sights
Yk like all the ads zoom is the rds zoom, but the difference is the scope
I generally like the ADS FOV to scale with my regular FOV.
Cause not doing that is stupid and i don't know why that would ever be a thing.
Yk how when u zoom with an acog it like takes up the most of the screen, compared to an rds where u see alot of the gun, charging handle and all that
ALSO FNB happin' come have fun with us~! Silver and blackhairboi
i don't have 2042
I want an option where all the zooms are rds fov
Bruh
that would be interesting.
@fiery shoal you gonna come with us!
Where is DEco and the Boin bois
Immersive
#fnb-english <----click here
ahahahah game 1 ear and after out car no work right click XDDDDD best DICE fix game XD
I'ma go larp som more, deuces.
dice (*)
Fnb? Wonât make it, likely setting up a nursery.
for plant people.
No, for crab people
People. Iâm having a girl in January.
Congrats đ
Name it Boinifer
My oldest is getting her driver license soon. Wishing you the best of years. Congrats.
How mutch are you getting paid per year
I'm kinda curious.
Boinessa
congrats!
đĽł
legend has it he is paid in Boins and cat memes
He's payment prob died on he's launch
just played on Kaleidoscope 128
my whole team spent the round ontop of the buildings camping the elevators like it was breakthru
it was conquest
i was on the ground and there was nobody around
Ambuen makes the 2d world come alive
Guys.... I don't think Renewal is coming this month đ
a salary
one US dollar 
Ever think about,
how much money people that work at EA make?
They are offered a competitive salary ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
with benefits even
maybe if it's a good answer he will apply himself and fill out an application
Wow y'all r old, I'm young asf
Battlefield is a game for the youth
halo fans are 40+
Battlefield is a game for 30 year-old boomers
No it's not
i mean
I was 12 playing bf3
your parents buy it for you?
probably
Yeah, so
đ
News Flash!
There's no age limit on BF2042?
Yes there is. (ESRB Mature 17+)
I always larped even back then, I indulged in machinimas
what happened to the mortar
Turned into ucav
Yall are lame
I don't think he was talking about the age minimum
Hello
he can probably be my dad
I'm daddy
I'm daddy battlefield
Big Daddy
fix 2042
I'm trying
renewal rework better be fire
Huh.
Gun segregation is a big problem
gun segregation is a thing?
wtf does that even mean
Why can't I use aek971 and dm7 in the same lobby
Because skill issue
Or pair my xm8 with Glock
im just a dice sheep
EXACTLY
idk anything
Dice is segregating the guns
We have the most diverse and expansive Library of guns in 2042 and its segragated
Just make a portal experience, Do 2042 vs BF3 or BC2, kill a bot who has the weapon you want, and boom, 2042 soldier using XM8 or AEK-971
They're mostly ok.
With their own soldiers they're ok but on a different faction they suck.
They also don't support 2042 attachments or mastery, so what's the point? 
And when they get ported to AOW they still have problems (see: M16A3)
it just makes more issues
yup, M16 and it's incredible amount of visual recoil for no reason
just make more original guns
I should have access to all of it at once
But then again their original guns aren't without issues either
I gave feedback regarding the p90 and AKS but I'm not sure if they'll update it before hand for 2042 because of ownership.
Both of them are using the wrong headshot multiplier.
Not a lot of people play portal anyway cause it's mostly hardcore servers and XP farm.
bruh he just got a rework that made him viable đ
ur playing him wrong
Wym, they'd play for the class system and vehicles, it just make sense to have the weapons, REMEMBER THE VIDEOS CRITICIZING THE GAME FOR HAVING LIKE 20 GUNS
THOSE VIDEOS ARE WRONG
THE GAME HAS MOST GUNS LIKE 80
anyone able to help stop my bf2042 from stuttering?
ive tried multiple videos but still does it
What system u playing in
intell i7 9700f
rtx 2060 super
16gb ddr4
Xbox, PC?
pc
Try turning it off and on again
the game doesn't run well on PC
I play on series s
tbf thats the only thing i havent actually tried
How the fuck does renewal get an update before hourglass. Holy crap this map is garbage
If it's an in game issue it should fix it if not, might be display settings
i donno, ask DICE.
Like renewal needs some work but my God hourglass is just a mess
Meanwhile, El Alamein players waiting
so they can pump out two reworks this season and say theyre doing a good job
or its cuz its a smaller map so its easier to fix and push out
take your pick
I'm assuming smaller map
becaiuse its prettier
Lol
ya its two smaller maps this season vs 1 big map. i imagine thats why
We need more official playlists
I also miss the conquest mode with the older game maps đŚ
Hourglass will require more work.
But yes. Renewal prettier.
Yeah just can hourglass from the game and re release it even it's actually good.
we all know hourglass rework will be released in 2023
Hourglass rework leaked

Try a milsim server, be adventurous
Renewal coming this month is not likely. It's already Friday, no news will drop on Sat/Sun, and 2042 updates now release on Tuesday, giving them only Monday to go "yep, it's coming tomorrow! Here's the patch notes"
27th
I just don't see it happening 
is the rework in 2.1?
oh right, they've done something like this before 
well youve still got until november to get the reworks
They really are gonna hold out til the last Tuesday of September, huh?
And then Orbital rework will release on October 25
Season 3 on November 29 đ
thats how it goes no? promise it in a range and then deliver it as late as possible to give yourself the most time
I think your face is delivered late as possible
uh huh
They should make brani island, Singapore a map in 2042
It needs to be more loaded in content imho
Two new specialists and, like, 6 new weapons
the rest of the seasons will have about the same as s2 they said
so i wouldnt get your hopes up too much
Damn
1 new map, rework maps, 2-3 new guns, portal guns
Portal mode don't cut it
Stemming the lack of AOW guns with some portal guns was a step in the right direction.
They should add BF2 to Portal

could bring karkand from 3
They'll add bf3 wake island to portal
How about they make their own Wake Island for 2042?
Id be surprised if portal got any more real content
That's what they were hiding
Seems like most mainline games get a Wake Island map (barring BF4)
With a sea wall around it and a hidden top secret base area added for expanded play space
Hiding final stand shit
Bring it all together
Would be a great last map
When does renewal come out again?
thats a long time
Renewal refarted
Damn alrighty
It will be good
by the end of this grind youll have lost ur mind
atp ive given up on it
Radar missiles best to annoy enemy pilots
Late thank you
Another late thank you
Hey brother, congratulations on the blessing to come! I have two of my own, teenagers now, and it's an incredible (and sometimes trying) experience watching them grow. That's wonderful news, wishing the best for you and the family.
Alr thks
if anyone played, howâs fnb
grats!
Thank you hydra! Really appreciate it. Maybe Iâll for advise when the time comes.
Thank you. Her middle name will be boin.

absolute chad move
Boris turret is useless
skill issue
Best to directly add the devs who are playing so you can match with them
Otherwise it's fun, make sure you join the fnb English voice chat for it too
Lot's of bots from my experience
sKiLl iSsuE
real
Absolutely man, you let me know how I can help, even if its just being a sounding board.
do a special animation for falk when is reviving players, like squeezing his stomach and giving him mouth to mouth

BTW, took a look at your portfolio, I really like your work! Keep creating. đ
Or giving you warm chocolate chip cookies that says: From Grama Falk
eat a snickers
She had to dislocate her thumb for that pose

Another youth gone to a life of crime
iâm not gonna be playing seeing as iâm across the country from my pc and i doubt my laptop can handle the game
that being said i am attempting to install mw2 on my laptop
can a 1050ti+i7 run mw2
Yes
Idk
True
She's no bastion
well then letâs hope this airbnb wifi holds
I never want to get chat banned again smh
Thank you

My electrician apprenticeship placement test is this Friday and I have to relearn algebra lol
i am kinda falling in love with boston
The band?
no the fucking element
The element Boston
the bean?
It is possible he is falling in love with beans
mmm beans, easy in easy out
i love boins
boings*
đđ
Get those tomatillos out of here
Get a job hippie
đ
Take that to the battlefruit channel
skill issue
yep
that will go straight to your thighs
my thighs are already large

No it'll go straight to my mouth

they can get much much larger
speaking of food
howâs that big juicy carrot BF2042 dangled called FNB? I mean who can resist running foreverâŚ. chasing people with defibs⌠itâs not like you donât run enough in a regular server right?
well I meant anybody but sure you can answer haha
Fnb is fun tho, the times I've been able to participate
no idea, usually fnb is pretty fun
itâs str8 up defibs and knives
Ah, like bf2
thatâs why I am skippinâ this one
that was fun
i just finished my electrician trade school so now im on the hunt myself
Sounds fun
Neat
They don't have bf2042 in Boston I hear
lol
downloading is so slow without ethernet
Boin is a unknown object, usually related to ones balls, and or beans.
Boston Boins
The boin isn't an object
i am ur balls
It has surpassed the ethereal plains even
n. Large breasts. A Japanese slang term adapted from a transliteration of the term "boing" which, as we all know, is what good breasts do.
Mcronalds you've gone off the deep end
hot
I hardly recognize you anymore
youre gonna end up like perri
I am Urban Dictionary.com
whoa main, settle settle down I would hate to be muted since Iâm typing and not talking
I think the dev that was in here earlier muted me because I disagreed that lag is something between your console and the modem.
sure
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It has nothing to do with the hosting servers according to him.
I don't think anyone mutes anyone here lol
the dev that uh. definitely totally has moderation powers
who
wrong 
alex?
idk who theyâre talking about lol
devs dont have mod powers
no the chatter named Deco that claimed to be a dev.
Deco? A dev? Lol
thatâs what he said
Hm
what was the argument
im interested
deco isnt a 2042 dev fyi
I'm a developer too
i mean i think deco does work in development but like a) not a mod and b) not a dice developer lol
but getting to vile with arguments can cause a mute regardless
I develop bad jokes
you are a bad joke
I develop boins
See?
perri do you have a portfolio
It doesn't matter actually, mods have their favorites and don't mute for any reason with those people
Gotta have proper mod armor

way moment
jkjk
Yes I have a portfolio
Omg mutes want to mod you?
can i see 
Again
well, itâs a long story but it goes a little something like thisâŚ. itâs a known fact that BF2042 multiplayer servers have performance issues for many players. And Deco thinks itâs OUR issue, not the server issue.
Who th is deco
My bio
The deco i know is portuguese











