battlefield-2042

[lone void]

As far as I'm concerned anyone who uses the 12m or Avancys is cringe and bad

[hidden crypt]

Give it bullet drop and nerf it's rediculous damage falloff

[chilly jacinth]

Lower headshot damage, range and rate of fire

[lone void]

I have 2 kills with the 12m and that was a failed attempt to get a battle pass mission in S1

[solid imp]

lol the 12M with slugs is literally a sniper rifle

[lone void]

Brug

Why do snipers suck so much ass

[hidden crypt]

^legitimately

[lone void]

In this game

[hidden crypt]

Just give 12m auto a scope bro

[solid imp]

it has identical characteristics to a sniper

but can fire auto

it's a problem

[lone void]

Buff DXR and nerf 12m easy peasy

[hidden crypt]

Imagine they give 12m auto an 8 and 12x instead of nerfimg it

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[solid imp]

🤣

[lone void]

DXR should one shot chest change my mind

[hidden crypt]

Wed all be fucked

🤣🤣🤣

The shotgun cross mapping would get even worse

I low key kinda would love to see it but also like a week later just remove the scopes and nerf it

But I feel like the kill feed would be hilarious

[onyx vault]

Can shotguns go through vehicle glass? i've never tried.

[hidden crypt]

Blablabla got killed from 1800 meters by a 12m auto

🤣🤣🤣

[cobalt dove]

Is the vcar any good?

[chilly jacinth]

They can go through glass

though buckshot and flechettes suck

at it

[hidden crypt]

I forget which is the vcar

[onyx vault]

I've been trying the VCAR, and it seems passable with attachments, but I'm not sure why one would choose it.

[cobalt dove]

K

[arctic grove]

yep, lil bit weak

[chilly jacinth]

You dont

[onyx vault]

It definitely isn't built to do anything.

[chilly jacinth]

just use the SVK

[hidden crypt]

I mainly run sval, ac42, and now the m16

Cause murica

https://tenor.com/view/epic-flag-hurricane-america-two-gif-14334358

But the sval is nice

Really versatile

I mean so is the m16 now

[chilly jacinth]

the m16 is depressing to use

[solid imp]

12m + bipod when?

[chilly jacinth]

if you don't hit the head you're done

[hidden crypt]

Ikr

Imagine

🤣🤣🤣

[chilly jacinth]

also its rof stutters more often than other weapons

[hidden crypt]

Sval is by far my favorite gun

I lowkey want one irl

I have the Russian version irl.... but like the sval is way better

When you can kill someone across the map with a 3x and them not know where tf you are

🤣🤣🤣

[onyx vault]

I'm really loving subsonics these days just because people take an extra couple of seconds to notice you.

I wish I had used them more months ago.

[hidden crypt]

If your good at switching positions they are even better

[solid imp]

suppressor + subsonics is really good for sneaky sneaky times

[hidden crypt]

Also heres another thing can we remove the fucking lights that people have on them

Like we dont need them

No other battlefeild had them

REMOVE THEM

[onyx vault]

No other battlefield had the same models on both teams

[pine roost]

What lights?

[solid imp]

NO... Add even more 🙂

[pine roost]

The team identification ones?

[solid imp]

The lights will keep being added until morale improves

[pine roost]

The ones they had to add because everyone looks the same?

[hidden crypt]

The lights litterally pretty much render smokes useless and nerf stealth lol

[onyx vault]

I think that's a bit much, but I agree we needed a more elegant solution.

[pine roost]

One good thing about them is that there are fewer instances where someone can blend perfectly into the environment like in bfV

But uniforms off the bat would have negated the need for that change

[hidden crypt]

That's the essence of a battlefeild game tho

Your supposed to be able to do that

[solid imp]

yeah camo should work

[onyx vault]

Detach skins from camos, please.

We should be able to run skins with different camos.

[solid imp]

That's a clever way of asking someone to take their clothes off I guess lol

[hidden crypt]

Just like they need to add a scope upgrade that removes glint past certain distances

Realistically they have scopes like that that exist irl

And this game is based in 2042...

[onyx vault]

Yeah, I liked scope glint at first, but now it is comedic.

Maybe tone down the angle, so you have to look right at it or something

and bring down the brightness

[pine roost]

Have fun playing without glint and complaining that snipers are too hard to see

You could lower the brightness, whatever, but they exist for a reason

[onyx vault]

I don't want the brightness lowered for my sake, but so it's not so absurdly obvious.

I'm not saying get rid of it, but it could use some toning down.

[hidden crypt]

I mean 3x doesn't have glint and people find me all the time

[onyx vault]

3x doesn't glint?

[hidden crypt]

All your bullets are Tracers

[onyx vault]

What is the cut off for the glint?

scope-wise

[hidden crypt]

Red dots and Bravo 3x don't have glint

[pine roost]

I feel like anything higher than 4x has glint

Not so sure though

[hidden crypt]

Anything 4x and higher has glint

So just get good with the Bravo 3x

[pine roost]

4x included then

[onyx vault]

Ok, similar vein, wtf are the rules for motion detection? Is it ALL motion, or standing motion, or what?

[pine roost]

Good question

[hidden crypt]

I run Bravo 3x on my sval and kill people across the map with subs and they have a harder time finding me

But all your bullets are tracers which also pisses me off

[onyx vault]

subsonics.

[hidden crypt]

Tracers are generally only used at night

It's meant to make it so you can see where your shooting

Like the sheer ammount of handicaps in this game compared to previous battlefeilds infuriates me

[pine roost]

That, I do agree with

Like the one who spots people who shoot at you, I hate that with a passion

Older bfs rewarded you for missing, this just punishes you for hitting

[hidden crypt]

Your operators pretty much have no camouflage because of those bright ass lights all over your, sniper glint is as bright as a god damn high grade flash light, bullet drop is way less than previous games, and all guns shoot tracer rounds..... come one dice what the actual fuck

[chilly jacinth]

rewarded for missing is stupid

its good they got rid of suppression

[pine roost]

‘I missed you, therefore you miss me lol!’

[hidden crypt]

Wait wait I forgot another thing..... aircraft in this game are op asf and every time theirs a working counter they nerf it

[onyx vault]

... what?

[pine roost]

Aircraft need a complete overhaul, as my username implies

I’ve had this name for about 5 months now

[onyx vault]

Aircraft definitely make no sense right now, for sure.

[hidden crypt]

Helicopters were kinda broken for awhile

[runic spoke]

I have the super hind bug.. repair is still locked...

I am not sure how to fix it

[pine roost]

Not only do aircraft and other vehicles lack any significant depth to make them interesting, but their power varies from brutally overpowered to outright useless, a combination of which leads to awful gameplay

[hidden crypt]

Then soflam was able to counter them, then soflam got nerfed to where flares counter it when ITS A LAZER GUIDING LOCK ON DEVICE

[copper fulcrum]

Hasn't Battlefield had big tracers since BF3?

I think Bad Company 2 also had big tracers

[hidden crypt]

Not all guns had tracers tho

Even is bf4 not all guns had Tracers

Same with bfv

[runic spoke]

any thoughts about the locked repaid on the chopper?

repair*

[copper fulcrum]

No, I remember BFV every gun had a tracer except for like the Welrod or the Commando Carbine

But those are firing sub-sonic

[hidden crypt]

They need to remove tracers once you apply a suppressor atleast

[runic spoke]

am I invisible again?

[hidden crypt]

If your running a suppressor your bullets shouldn't be Tracers

[onyx vault]

you are not.

[runic spoke]

Thank you

[copper fulcrum]

But a suppressor doesn't change your ammo type

[hidden crypt]

Yea but realistically if your running a supressor you wouldn't be running Tracers when your running a suppressor to be stealthy to begin with

🤣🤣🤣

[onyx vault]

While I agree with the idea "why would I use tracers with this suppressor", I also think a barrel attachment changing your ammo is weird.

Which is probably why they made subsonics the way they did.

[hidden crypt]

Hey let's apply this big can at the end of my gun that makes it silent but still leave the bullets in that shine and give away my location.....

😅

I rest my case lol

[onyx vault]

We've only got a few years before the new ice age, let the specialists do what they want.

[pine roost]

Do suppressors remove the hit indicators like in v?

[hidden crypt]

No

I fucking wish

There's so many handicaps in this game you'd think it was made for 10 year olds

[onyx vault]

lol, 40 year olds would need it more than 10 year olds.

[hidden crypt]

Fr

[onyx vault]

I think a lot of it was very ham-handed solutions to problems and they needed to put effort in.

[copper fulcrum]

Heavy Suppressors change the indicator to be smaller

[hidden crypt]

Can someone make a battlefield 2042 meme with like a big handicap sign png over it

Please

[copper fulcrum]

no

[onyx vault]

Does the description say that about heavy suppressors?

[hidden crypt]

It wouldn't litterally describe 2042 in a nutshell tho

[onyx vault]

or did you figure that out? and if so, do you have any other hidden wisdoms?

[copper fulcrum]

I think the description says it

[onyx vault]

Damn, reading is powerful.

[hidden crypt]

I know another hidden wisdom

[onyx vault]

If this is another conspiracy about 10 sundances, I swear.

[arctic grove]

Should I turn on cross play

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah

[upbeat sluice]

Yes, console bots are easy to farm

[hidden crypt]

The 10mm rounds for the m4 do less damage than normal smg rounds in other guns 🤣🤣🤣

[copper fulcrum]

9mm

[arctic grove]

Whats the best lcmg class for mid to long range

[fervent grotto]

9mm

[hidden crypt]

How and why they do that is beyond me

[copper fulcrum]

Description says it's 9mm, PBX fires 45 as well

[upbeat sluice]

Avancys

Ohhhh class. Who knows?

[hidden crypt]

Well some of the smgs fire 9mm and do more damage than it

[upbeat sluice]

Probably McKay

[hidden crypt]

I dont understand why tho

I also feel like the close quarters ammo for the sval needs a slight buff

Not by much tho

[copper fulcrum]

Balancing

[hidden crypt]

I mean I get balancing

But smgs also do less damage than ars

[solid imp]

at what engagement range?

[hidden crypt]

So all they have to do is just make it do the same damage as an smg

[solid imp]

the balancing has always been aimed at pushing weapons into their appropriate range whether or not it makes technical sense with what's chambered

[fervent grotto]

Then there would be zero point to run smgs

[solid imp]

cq

[hidden crypt]

I mean the close quarters mag for the m4 already nerfs its range to smg ranges..... so they can just make it do smg damage

[ripe hedge]

u mean the SFAR?

[river trench]

Mw2 mid but better then other games

[solid imp]

I assumed he was talking asval which should have been written as vss

[ripe hedge]

Same

[hidden crypt]

You realise the asval is an actual gun....

[solid imp]

so is vss 🙂

[hidden crypt]

It's the American modernized version of the vss

[fervent grotto]

But then why would I run an smg when I could just run an AR that doubles as an smg

[hidden crypt]

And the asval in the game is very much the asval

[solid imp]

VSS is top one

[hidden crypt]

Appearance wise the fact it has full auto and single fire, it's very much an asval

[fervent grotto]

The VSS can run full auto

[hidden crypt]

Vss doesn't run full auto

They later made civilian versions that ran full auto after America made the asval

The asval was designed to be an ar/marksmans rifle capable of being used covertly

[solid imp]

they're both soviet made weapons

[fervent grotto]

Yes it does

The gas operation allows it

[solid imp]

the bsv-m in 2042 is definitely a vss

[fervent grotto]

So the militarized version doesn’t go full auto, but the civilian one does? That makes no sense

[jade hill]

Try short barrel and close combat

Melts close range

And fun af

Fire rate is insane

Brrrrrrr

[eager spire]

hold on

[hidden crypt]

Sorry correction I fucked my history up the asval is also russian made but was later modernized with the help of a western gun developer

^there now my history is correct

[eager spire]

Modernized with the help of a western gun developer
?

[fervent grotto]

Also yes the VSS goes full auto

[errant scarab]

Look like as val

[solid imp]

🧐

[fervent grotto]

It’s the same family of firearm

[copper fulcrum]

Are we gonna keep repeating the same thing again and again?

[hidden crypt]

The standard vss was only single fire

[ripe hedge]

(correct)

[fervent grotto]

So what version of it does go full auto then?

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah in the portal editor it's called the VSS Vintorez, not a BSV-M lol

[hidden crypt]

Versions that were later modified

Originally the vss was only semi and only the asval has full auto

[fervent grotto]

Proof?

[solid imp]

Dad said my point was correct, I'm going to sit back with my popcorn now

[hidden crypt]

That's why they made 2 different guns....... the vss was meant to be a sniper/ Marksman rifle..... while the asval was designed to be an assault rifle

[fervent grotto]

Ok yeah you say that but proof?

[eager spire]

there is absolutely nothing implying that there are any actual differences in operation between the VSS and AS VAL.

[cosmic sequoia]

Battlefield 2042 could indubitably use some more attacks choppers, jets in their own category and nerf the super hind

Thanks guys

[solid imp]

veni vidi heli

[fervent grotto]

Exactly

[chilly jacinth]

does the super hind really need to get nerfed more

[copper fulcrum]

How far is everyone in the Battlepass by the way?

[fervent grotto]

They both take the same caliber too

[chilly jacinth]

im at like 62

or higher

[placid echo]

75

[solid imp]

78

[copper fulcrum]

82

[solid imp]

go fish

[radiant prism]

How many more nerfs are people gonna need against the Hind before they're satisfied?

[hidden crypt]

VSS — translated from Russian as “Special Sniper Rifle”
The VSS was originally designed in the 1980s as a variation of the AS Val Special Automatic Rifle, an integrally-suppressed select-fire rifle created solely for the use of Russia’s secretive “special purpose” (or Spetsnaz) troops. While the control layout is similar to those found on AK series rifles, the VSS’s internals are fairly different, and makes use of a 6-lug rotating bolt.

[radiant prism]

Because I'm willing to bet thats not until its just a free multikill for whoever can whip out an M5 recoilless first

[hidden crypt]

There you go

[fervent grotto]

Still does not show that it’s supposed to only go semi auto

[radiant prism]

It infact says exactly the opposite, being select fire

[woven acorn]

anyone else finding the original maps hard to go back to now that the newer maps are so much better?

[eager spire]

"an integrally-suppressed select-fire rifle"

[solid imp]

I think he was reading "select-fire" as "single-fire" possibly?

[eager spire]

maybe but that's dyslexia at that point

[radiant prism]

A few of them, but its not too bad imo

[fervent grotto]

That’s not what select fire means 💀

Select fire means it can change fire modes

[radiant prism]

I know it doesn't mean full auto, but that it isn't only semi auto

[solid imp]

you two are saying the same thing

[radiant prism]

💀 💀

Does my point get more valid the more skulls I put?

[solid imp]

what a time to be alive

[fervent grotto]

Yea I’m saying it isn’t just semi auto which is what he’s saying. I think we are confused here

[radiant prism]

Thats....what I was implying to begin with

[eager spire]

this is getting a bit pedantic

[solid imp]

y'all are agreeing with each other and both disagreeing with donz

[fervent grotto]

Yes which I’m saying I misread

[radiant prism]

[fervent grotto]

So I’m saying there was a misunderstanding

[eager spire]

well i mean donz is just blatantly false so

[fervent grotto]

Yeah

[violet meteor]

So yall get bored and argue with each other even though you've been in agreement this whole time

You're gamers on a game related discord

[fervent grotto]

No I just misread his sentence

[violet meteor]

Go play some games

[fervent grotto]

Could say the same for you

[solid imp]

yeah let's all go send ivan home

[violet meteor]

Buy some boins

[solid imp]

buy boins!

[errant scarab]

Free boins

[hidden crypt]

I was reading something ok so it says while the first few models of the vss only featured semi automatic fire when they then switched to larger production they gave it the same full auto and single fire like the asval

[violet meteor]

Donz when's the book come out?

[solid imp]

oh no we were done lol

[copper fulcrum]

Are we also just forgetting that it's a futuristic variant of the weapon not just the weapon itself?

[eager spire]

ok but by and large the VSS and AS VAL are basically the same gun.

[fervent grotto]

We’re talking irl

[violet meteor]

No

[hidden crypt]

Yes

[eager spire]

okay.

so you understand that.

[fervent grotto]

They have a 70% parts commonality

[violet meteor]

The VSS has one more S

[hidden crypt]

So probably like the first 100 were only semi

And then after that they were all semi and full

[eager spire]

Probably because they didn't wanna call the gun the ASS VAL

[fervent grotto]

So you are right to a small degree

[copper fulcrum]

Let's give the VSS Vintorez a helical magazine

[solid imp]

clockwise from 0 to 1 degree

[violet meteor]

They should have called it the VAL KILL-MORE

[eager spire]

lets give you a helical magazine.

[fervent grotto]

I’d prefer a bullpup helical mag sniper

[solid imp]

that's one step away from "your mom's a helical magazine"

[fervent grotto]

You know who else is a helical mag?

[hidden crypt]

I mean we have our own pretty unique bullet too, have yall not seen the new replacement for the 300 blackout

[eager spire]

your mom's a box mag.

[hidden crypt]

Shits dirty

[copper fulcrum]

I gave your mom a banana mag

[fervent grotto]

mY mOm

[violet meteor]

Aw that's a sweet gift

[hidden crypt]

8.6 blackout

[solid imp]

"we've got to start securing sectors, the enemy has majority control"

[hidden crypt]

Idk if any of yall have seen 8.6 blackout

[violet meteor]

They really wanna secure those data drives

[arctic grove]

what’s cookin in here?

[violet meteor]

Someone should check the announcers search history

[fervent grotto]

I have

[hidden crypt]

I want the new rifle

Would be great for hunting

[arctic grove]

why

[rotund vortex]

new rifle?

[solid imp]

There's a movie called "Blackout" from 86

[arctic grove]

we already have huge subsonic rounds

why we need another wildcat round

[copper fulcrum]

.50 BMG Subsonic

[hidden crypt]

The 8.6 blackout was designed for essentially the new honey badger that's in the works, but they made a bolt action rifle that fires it

[arctic grove]

I don’t need another subsonic rifle round

have to buy a whole new suppressor and more ammo, no way

I feel like none of the specialist do anything useful other than Boris

[hidden crypt]

I mean as someone whose shot one cause my buddy has one.... yes yes we need this round

It's silent asf

[solid imp]

if 2042 were set in the star wars universe he would def be Palpatine

[arctic grove]

there’s already good options and no reason to splurge on all the accessories and ammo of a new wildcat round

[copper fulcrum]

Hey wasn't there a checkmark next to Battlefield?

[hidden crypt]

Trust me it's an amazing round

[eager spire]

Who's paying you, Donz?

[solid imp]

✅ ?

[violet meteor]

Sold it for boins

It's a rough economy

We all have to make sacrifices

[hidden crypt]

No one lol I just personally like it, I can see alot of implications for bear hunting and etc

[solid imp]

you should definitely get into rehab if your boin habits has gone that far

[copper fulcrum]

Boins are like Klondike bars

[violet meteor]

You're right

[copper fulcrum]

🎶 What would you dooooo for a Boin

[violet meteor]

I've got a boin problem

[eager spire]

You just sound like you're shilling. quit that.

[violet meteor]

The problem being I don't have enough boins

I'm about to rip the copper out of my home to sell for boins

[rotund vortex]

Good

There’s also wires inside your body

[violet meteor]

Damn wires

[hidden crypt]

Lol

[fervent grotto]

Shilling for 8.6 blackout

Sad world we live in 😭

[violet meteor]

Let's see...I can live without an eye....kidney.....feet...half a liver

[rotund vortex]

I forgot to spawn in a vehicle so now I’m running for 30 minutes

[violet meteor]

The money I sell from that should get me about a month of boins

[fervent grotto]

No cap I would willingly sell one of my kidneys for 20,000$ if it was legal

And I’m not kidding

[solid imp]

delicious filling..

[violet meteor]

It has crossed my mind

[fervent grotto]

I only need 1 to live so why not

[silk surge]

It's kinda tiring that /r/Battlefield2042 is still filled with people who brags about not ever having played the game.

[solid imp]

Oh I stopped bothering with that cesspool ages ago replaced by r/LowSodium2042/

[arctic grove]

How is the multiplayer performance today, much lag?

Check this oldie but a goodie out… https://youtu.be/3o21kdwChzg

[arctic grove]

youtu?

Lol

[solid imp]

that's YT's URL shortener

[arctic grove]

it’s how they do links man I dunno

[copper fulcrum]

He just right clicked on his video and pressed copy video link

that's all he did

[arctic grove]

well I clicked the 3 dots and clicked ‘share’ and then ‘copy link’ but close enough lol

[copper fulcrum]

That gives the same result

[arctic grove]

but faster, thanks for that

[solid imp]

this would be great to bring back https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/M142

[arctic grove]

that thing you backed up and got in a bird’s eye and bombed stuff, layed smoke, yeah I remember that

[solid imp]

exactly 🙂

[violet meteor]

The fuck are you doing there bozo

[little lagoon]

I still hate stranded

[arctic grove]

I’m trying to remember a map, shit but I don’t see it on the BG3 list, gonna keep lookin

BF3*

2042 could use a HIMARS

[quaint wigeon]

i miss this vehicle so much

[arctic grove]

I never knew how to properly position it

[arctic grove]

I still enjoy a game of Hourglass 128CQ

I don’t know how I just.., use in world vehicles, take a stroll to a contested area, see how long I live and how many kills I get

But they do need more elevation in the terrain and more cover items definitely

[last swift]

more shipping containers

[solid imp]

more shipping ships

[arctic grove]

Did I mention I also don’t mind 128CQ on Breakaway?

[upbeat sluice]

the movement in MW2 compared to 2042 is skeeeeet

running through soup

[arctic grove]

I like jumping around corners more than jump sliding them personally

It’s at least somewhat more counterable

I think he blocked me but please someone tell crispybacon that i did report him for call me a very pejorative slur then telling me to kill myself, so rude

Contact modmail @arctic grove

We can’t really say/do anything without proof except hate the guy for something that may or may not be true

I took a screenshot

Using mobile not pc

You can upload it to your report

[arctic grove]

MW2s movement isn’t too ridiculous or anything. They implemented their movement changes well in a way that doesn’t really promote both flying around, or camping, so +1

[quaint wigeon]

saw a youtube thumbnail that said it was gona be the campiest COD cuz of the shock charges and enhanced audio

do ppl camp a lot?

[arctic grove]

TDM kinda gets like that but I’ve been playing invasion which isn’t too bad

[solid imp]

YT thumbnail implies streamer which implies wanting something from COD that is all about KD ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quaint wigeon]

truuuue

[arctic grove]

I really wonder what, if anything dice will do with 2042 to kinda “counter” the larger appeal for MW2, although both franchises do play differently and appeal to different people but

how to use a sniper rifle without camping… 360 no scope hipfire non realsistic cartoon

[solid imp]

Some of the gameplay in COD seems to be aimed at a more BF type play. That said they will play keep playing differently. I'm not sure if there's much that COD does to appeal to anyone who doesn't tend to favor the Assault type kit/gameplay.

[arctic grove]

True, I did hear some things about being able to repair cars and stuff in MW2 though which kinda could mean engineer type stuff, but I’m not sure how or if it’ll be implemented, so for now that’s in the air

It’s cartoon vs realistic, not even close

BFFTW

MW2 is reasonably grounded in its theme

……for now

[fiery shoal]

bf and cod are both casual arcade shooters

[arctic grove]

it’s still less cartoony

[fiery shoal]

by like... 1%

[fervent grotto]

Exactly

[arctic grove]

Oh, were you implying 2042 was cartoony? I’m confused

I shall disagree

nope, COD and MW

are cartoony

BF is more realistic

[fervent grotto]

2042 is less realistic then MW bruh

[arctic grove]

not even close

[fervent grotto]

And BF is still cartoony

[arctic grove]

I played it last night, the animations and reactions are all over the place.

[solid imp]

cartoony or not, killstreaks are still the deal breaker for me

[fervent grotto]

Are you talking MW or MW2 right now

[arctic grove]

completely fine for an arcade cartoon shooter but not as pro as BF2042

I played MW2 on my PS5 last night with friends

it was a joke

[fervent grotto]

I don’t see the problem with them? They’re a main staple in cod

[solid imp]

for sure they are, but that's why I've never gravitated to it

not asking them to remove killstreaks it's just not a feature that appeals

[arctic grove]

Now I do like the killstreaks in an arcade cartoon shooter, very fun

[fervent grotto]

MW2 has way more realism then 2042. And I think that’s blatantly obvious. The animations and sounds in MW2 beat 2042s by a mile

Especially the gun shots

MW2 has way more punchy sounds

[arctic grove]

I think you’re in the wrong forum lol

Can confirm

MW2 is hella loud

[keen loom]

Average cod talk in 2042

[arctic grove]

where the MW2 forum at lol

[keen loom]

In the cod server

[arctic grove]

……. In other games channel

[fervent grotto]

He was literally talking about it first, and now I’m being told not to. That’s crazy

[arctic grove]

it’s a cool game, its an arcade cartoon shooter and has killstreaks and 3 lanes to shoot down. but it’s not BF2042 realistic.

[keen loom]

[fervent grotto]

2042 isn’t realistic 😭

[arctic grove]

yes it is

[copper fulcrum]

Battlefield never has been about realism

[fervent grotto]

Sure some parts are, but for the most part it is a cartoon game

[arctic grove]

more than COD

[solid imp]

The word realism is getting tossed around a lot here for two arcade games

[white geyser]

Battlefield is never meant to be realistic Bozo

[fervent grotto]

Not more then MW2 or MW

[solid imp]

someone from the tarkov crew came into this chat they'd just laugh

[arctic grove]

I’d say the most realistic thing with Battlefield is sniper zeroing

one is more realistic than the other, like it or not lo

[fervent grotto]

Did I say that it was?

[fervent grotto]

I could say the same to you

[quaint wigeon]

is someone tryna shill for mw2 in here?

lol always that one guy

[arctic grove]

MW2 fanboy can’t take no criticism.

[fervent grotto]

No I’m not

[solid imp]

no it's actually kind of a throwback chat to 10 years ago comparing COD to BF until our eyes and ears are bleeding

[fervent grotto]

I’m not shilling I’m quite literally stating facts. I love both franchises but this game is not more realistic then MW2. That’s not even bias, it’s just a fact

[fiery shoal]

im kind of tired of the bf cod comparisons every time one gets released.. but i get it, kids grow up and its new to them

[quaint wigeon]

well mine are already dry so leme exit out this conversation

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

horseshit lol

[solid imp]

Vince confirmed 2042 strayed from BF too far. COD comes out and will gather a good following. Not sure 2042 is the game to compete. Next BF will. Comparing them is quite silly right now.

[fiery shoal]

nothing can be as bad as yesterday though

[keen loom]

True

[maiden sentinel]

lmao does it matter which one is more realistic

[fervent grotto]

Well you tell the person who brought it up in the first place that and stop acting like I’m the problem causer every time (not you in specific but other people)

[white geyser]

The next battlefield should release on March, the last battlefield game that release on March was hardline

[quaint wigeon]

not really its truly a matter of gameplay

and preference

[arctic grove]

it’s a fun game for beginner first person shooters

[solid imp]

Actually not a bad take given the pre-Dec pushes are to hit holiday numbers.

[quaint wigeon]

ofc the COD guy is gonna ride for COD no matter what

[fervent grotto]

No I’m literally not? I’m just saying a fact. No one can seriously tell me that 2042 is more realistic then MW2

[quaint wigeon]

but i feel like most BF players played COD first, then played their first BF and said "yeah this is where its at"

[fervent grotto]

I’m not Shilling. If I was I’d be going way harder

[quaint wigeon]

i didnt say u were shilling lol i only asked but i am saying that you're gonna ride for COD no matter what

[white geyser]

Next year no cod game, so deal with it and just play MW2 2022 until 2024

[quaint wigeon]

your like our resident COD guy lol

[hexed mango]

hello

i am currently freezing

[arctic grove]

here’s an opinion for you, you can agree or disagree, I don’t give 2 fuchs… I played both games and BF2042 is more realistic, less cartoony, and has more realistic animations.

[fervent grotto]

Sorry not trying to say your saying that I’m shilling. But I hate that I’m being told I’m shilling for simply talking

[hexed mango]

for mw2?

[keen loom]

[hexed mango]

comapeing*

[fervent grotto]

Same dude. It’s just cold out of nowhere now

[hexed mango]

compared to *

shit

god damn i cannot type

[hexed mango]

where you at

[arctic grove]

yeah man

[fervent grotto]

Indiana

[quaint wigeon]

should prolly stop buying boins so u can pay for AC

[arctic grove]

that’s what be talkin’ bout

[hexed mango]

i’m in boston

[still vault]

Hellowes!

[fervent grotto]

And be colder?

[white geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-fire-flames-burn-flame-gif-10409797

[fervent grotto]

Oh damn

[solid imp]

omg pitch this to hollywood NOW 😄

[quaint wigeon]

u can turn up the AC for it to be hotter...

[still vault]

U not Hollywood?

Must have gone wrong

[hexed mango]

i only played like one round (not even a full round) of mw2 before having to go to the air port, but i gotta say, mw2 has some great animations, i can’t really speak to the realism, but i don’t think it’s bad. i like both 2042 and mw2

[quaint wigeon]

hit your local pub and buy like 3 guiness

[hexed mango]

i’m 17

[solid imp]

Oops... I meant to say "yep if you just meet me for lunch and I hand you this really good looking business card do you want to take a drive to hollywood just the two of us? I can make your movie come true"

[hexed mango]

visiting colleges

current at Tufts, it’s mid

Northeastern was super cool

[quaint wigeon]

sound like its time to invest in a fake id

[arctic grove]

yes they are both likeable bro, I aint bashin’ MW2, just saying my opinion on the subject

[hexed mango]

epic

[hexed mango]

understandable

i haven’t nearly played enough to judge

i literally preordered the game an hour before i left, played for like 2 minutes, got 2 kills, and then packed up and left for boston

[arctic grove]

it’s the same old sheet, made by the same old sheety company that hates women and loves profits

[hexed mango]

TTK seems low, i like it

[arctic grove]

Activision for the win haha

[white geyser]

Right now I barely play BF 2042, since I got busy with my other games to play until new updates are announced in 2042

[solid imp]

that's a hard left turn to make a point about gameplay

[keen loom]

[hexed mango]

i usually only play 2042 for weekly missions or on updates as well

[arctic grove]

if you played one, you played them all, it’s the same sheeet

[quaint wigeon]

you'd be very suprised how many bars in a city where there's a big Uni or multiple accept fake ids, mostly cuz those bars suck and rely on the freshmen sophmores for business lol

[hexed mango]

i enjoy the game but there isn’t enough to keep me active anymore

[red notch]

Same

[hexed mango]

lol

[red notch]

I mean, it’s fun for sure

[arctic grove]

and for the record, I am still mad at EA for making BF2042 multiplayer servers lag out and not fixin the hosting servers

[arctic grove]

Boinbius 2042 betrayal arc

[hexed mango]

i got mw2 so i have something else to play, i’m not generally a CoD player so idk

but OW2 is right around the corner and i am gonna be playing that

[quaint wigeon]

the difference is refreshing sometimes

[white geyser]

I’ll remind battlefield on Twitter or other social media platform they have to remind them to add new contents something we want

[hexed mango]

plus, Jedi Survivor and Bonelab are in the future

[arctic grove]

my rotation is BF2042, Halo Infinite, Splitgate

[arctic grove]

I’ll drop MW2 if DICE does what my name says

[hexed mango]

lol

i don’t think that’s the major issue tho

[arctic grove]

they just need to invest in dedicated servers so we can play without lag

Lol nah it isn’t

I haven’t really been on 2042 cause the rubber banding

[arctic grove]

word

[hexed mango]

but, it would be nice

[quaint wigeon]

praying for this

[arctic grove]

supposidly they have more dedicated servers available for Friday Night so we’ll see

[hexed mango]

performance, content, bugs, qol, etc

[arctic grove]

last Friday it was only EU players and they weren’t having issues

nobody is playing FNB in North America, it’s a ghost town

[hexed mango]

EU and NA FNB starts at different times

[arctic grove]

yup

[hexed mango]

so… maybe that’s why?

last week i got some full games in FNB, im in NA

[solid imp]

Also FNB is paddles vs knives... that's the definition of niche lol

[hexed mango]

tho i bet everyone wanted to play TDM XL

TDM and RUSH XL were so fun

[arctic grove]

did you have overloaded servers maxed out of bandwidth causing lag and rubberbanding?

cause that’s what happened to me and my squad last week FNB

I logged in early and chatted with FNB on discord, EU players. then when the squad logged in hours later, that’s what we had

along with empty servers

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Whens the last time you played?

https://tenor.com/view/niki-connor-holistic-chef-niki-chef-nutrition-nutritionist-gif-23484532

Having latency any higher than 100ms will cause significant lag in your gameplay, and make it difficult to play properly resulting in rubberbanding effects.

[arctic grove]

so will hosting servers that have too many connections from multiple regions sucking up the bandwidth

Battlefield is a supported game by NVIDIA and there are tools you can monitor and settings you can adjust to reduce this.

Try not playing on wifi.

wtf lol

"you idiots don't know the problem is 101 troubleshooting" haha

Also try disabling VSYNC. Can help with tearing.

you sound just like an EA forum moderator- keep your day job!

[fossil lantern]

I mean he is trying to help

[still vault]

I can recommend being nice when someone tries to help you.

[copper fulcrum]

This is the internet, everyone has to be angry

There is no happy place here

[fossil lantern]

No that's reddit

I mean twitter

[copper fulcrum]

"I mean facebook"

[fossil lantern]

Lol

Facebook is for angry peo0le 50 and higher

[arctic grove]

Lis street level outfit has to be my new favorite lis skin

[fossil lantern]

There new skins?

[arctic grove]

let's assume everyone here that experiences BF server issues has a local problem.
yeah baby!

[fossil lantern]

Well

It probably is

[arctic grove]

My guess is that you didn't want actual help troubleshooting to make sure its a local issue.

[fossil lantern]

Bf servers are incredibly good

[arctic grove]

just pinpointing problems doesn't mean i'm not listening..

[remote kiln]

when you don't know battlefield servers are all dedicated

[arctic grove]

we are wayyyy past local troubleshooting with this game that came out Nov 2019

I think I understand.

[arctic grove]

they need more of them smartypants

[fossil lantern]

🤣🤣

[tame cobalt]

Gaming

[remote kiln]

i think its just a case of you dont know what youre talking about

[tame cobalt]

Who's ready to play renewal update

[fossil lantern]

Me!!

[arctic grove]

if you believe BF has enough hosting to meet the demand you're right because everyone quit playing the game for server issues

[remote kiln]

its almost like it was never a hosting problem

[dapper river]

L takes from the uneducated, name a more iconic duo

[tame cobalt]

I'm not

[fossil lantern]

Lol

[fossil lantern]

No only you then the servers will be fine

[arctic grove]

the servers are the issue, they can't perform with cross play, multiple region connections, and the amount of connections- this aint rocket science, and the numbers don't lie

[remote kiln]

half this playerbase

[remote kiln]

you mean those servers which geolock people?

come on bro stop making up bs

[chilly jacinth]

what numbers are you talking about

please don't say steam

[remote kiln]

just admit you don't know what you're talking about cause you've said nothing coherently

[arctic grove]

all the people with the same issues on EA forums, all the people with the same issues on Discord, Reddit, Twitter

[remote kiln]

where there are no servers in those regions?

yeah man I'll help you, it's not a hosting problem

all you had to do was ask

ruby explained it to you already

[fossil lantern]

Ruby wasn't good enough clearly

[remote kiln]

she was, infact she literally said latency

[patent path]

I am good enough, let me tell him

what should I tell him

[arctic grove]

make a point. Do you understand how hosting servers, connections, and bandwidth work?

[remote kiln]

but no make up further nonsense

[remote kiln]

I'm a developer

[arctic grove]

What wasn't I good enough with

are we being nice or toxic right now?

[patent path]

you pick

[arctic grove]

😅

topic change then?

[arctic grove]

developer who doesn't understand what too many connections to a server will do to bandwidth? Think you need to focus on developing.

[patent path]

what the heck are you talking about

[arctic grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HitBoxPorn/comments/uf74ce/unintentional_dodge/ This now

[chilly jacinth]

Too many connections

sure buddy

[fossil lantern]

I meant for him. You tried your best XD can't please everyone

[arctic grove]

I didn't 3 people were able to play without any server performance issues, thanks!

We have a lot of very passionate players

[remote kiln]

let me explain it to you in coherent terms, EA servers use a ring hosted connection system in a cloud environment to geolocate users according to their lowest latency to ensure a smooth connection, those buffers are transmitted in 45hz packets from the client to a (dedicated) (remember you were wrong about that too) server which are sent back to the client, if a user doesn't have a server in their own region, they have higher latency (ruby already explained that)

you would do good to listen to people instead of making up stuff

[sharp marten]

People are so mad that mw2 caters more to casual players it’s pretty funny

[fossil lantern]

I love it

[patent path]

mw2 be looking like a 2017 game tho

[upbeat sluice]

MW2 is just slow

[tame cobalt]

[upbeat sluice]

movement is skeeeeet

[sharp marten]

I don’t think pros or streamers should have a opinion on what happens to a core game or gameplay

[tame cobalt]

the penalty for sliding is way too much

[eager spire]

Why not?

[arctic grove]

I said they don't have enough of them. man you have selective memory

[sharp marten]

How because it’s look pretty good on my serious x

[patent path]

map textures look like ass

[eager spire]

I would think pro players at least would have a better understanding of what works and what doesn't.

[fiery shoal]

... who else to ask?

[upbeat sluice]

looks exactly like mw1 on my 3080

[tame cobalt]

2042 def has better infantry gameplay

[sharp marten]

The casual player base

[patent path]

Ask me, I'm good with stuff

[eager spire]

debatable, MW22 at least has working mouse input.

[fiery shoal]

lul, no thank you

[remote kiln]

again you're just making up stuff, they have enough of them, because, where they exist, people's connections are fine

[uncut bay]

once again last gen holding back current gen

shame

[fossil lantern]

Yeah but they to fix a million other thijgs at least mw2 isnt as broken

[tame cobalt]

pc moment

[remote kiln]

the pseudo intellectualism of the battlefield fanbase never ceases to amaze me

[arctic grove]

let's take a poll, how many of you are blessed as Deco and have zero server performance issues on BF2042?

[arctic grove]

take, can you explain why? influencers have a lot of say of the direction of their fan base opinions.

[patent path]

Me

[fiery shoal]

chilis take?

[remote kiln]

notice how you're the only guy here whining

[upbeat sluice]

it'd be nice to be able to switch server locations in 2042

that alone is garbage

[tame cobalt]

Me

[sharp marten]

Or implement changes that are separate from the core game and let casuals and pros have their own separate rules

[arctic grove]

1, that makes 2, one more that makes 3

[arctic grove]

Hot take

[patent path]

I have a pog connection tho

[fiery shoal]

sounds like people should just play different games..

[sharp marten]

Lmao what

[fiery shoal]

there are hundreds of games out there, pick on that suites you, dont make 2 different games in one

[arctic grove]

Where would casuals go to give feedback on the game play they enjoy?

Typically casuals play and hour or two then dont care to give feedback.

[sharp marten]

Alright so I’m going to guess a fair bit of you have played or play apex right?

[fossil lantern]

I am as bless as deco

[arctic grove]

4

[remote kiln]

you know just how unworkable this is right

[eager spire]

Not much but I have played Apex yes

[fiery shoal]

played apex a long time ago

[eager spire]

I have a feeling you're going to say something very stupid.

[patent path]

what connection problem?

[fossil lantern]

Lol

[arctic grove]

👀

[sharp marten]

Remember the gold knock down shield? Well the pro side of apex said “hey this is to Op take it out of the game”

[remote kiln]

it was overpowered

lol

[patent path]

[upbeat sluice]

respawn should have just made titanfall 3.

[sharp marten]

How was it over powered?

[patent path]

you can res yourself

kinda OP tbh

but yeah it was fun

now the game doesn't feel the same anymore

[remote kiln]

there were tournaments that were lost based on some rando got a 10 second timer on

[fossil lantern]

my download is 936
and upload is 812

[radiant prism]

Games never live up to the hype, idk why people would want a Titanfall 3 with how much hype 2 has drummed up

[upbeat sluice]

the biggest issue with 2042's servers is that you can't switch locations. You're stuck in your location and it's bullshiz

[arctic grove]

4 out of 17 are saying they have never experienced server performance issues on BF2042

[remote kiln]

it isn't a mechanic based on skill, purple health shields are a 750 based points to destroy

there's 3 other people in a squad that means folks are unkillable when reviving

[sharp marten]

I don’t see it

[upbeat sluice]

@radiant prism movement based shooter with a high skill ceiling, if done right, would live up to hype

[remote kiln]

if you wore a golden backpack when reviving you would gain __50% shields and health __ aswell

[sharp marten]

Especially being killed myself while trying to res

[remote kiln]

you clearly don't watch them then lol

[patent path]

cod advanced warfare

[eager spire]

yeah but people hate games with high skill ceilings, look at the recent set of FPS games that have come out. @upbeat sluice

[radiant prism]

But what is done right? That’s gonna mean 17 different things at this point

[sharp marten]

You’re right so doesn’t that just make them better then the opposing team

[remote kiln]

no it doesn't, that's why people literally, on purpose died

[upbeat sluice]

taking titanfall 2 mechanics, expanding on them, and keeping the core gameplay of move fast and jump in a mech

[remote kiln]

it's a mechanic antithetical to skill

[sharp marten]

Tbh skill issue

Focus the one reviving themselves

[remote kiln]

you said you don't watch the ALGS, which is reason enough why development teams should listen to pros

[sharp marten]

Mmmm no sorry

[radiant prism]

That’s the natural evolution yes, but it’s execution is bound to just disappoint people

[eager spire]

Using the skill issue argument
When you yourself are against the concept of skillful players submitting their feedback

You're a clown. This discussion is worthless.

[upbeat sluice]

@radiant prism you can't please everyone

[lament plank]

Coming back next Friday, is the game still broken? Or did the patch in august fix things?

[sharp marten]

Who?

[patent path]

what's broken

[eager spire]

You.

[sharp marten]

Asked

[eager spire]

🙄

[sharp marten]

[remote kiln]

what do you mean by broken?

[sharp marten]

Like I said causal gaming and professional should be separated 🤝

[quaint wigeon]

esports ruined the casualness of gaming fucking nerds wont stfu

[sharp marten]

Facts

[upbeat sluice]

yup

[remote kiln]

until the casuals become those pros lol

this makes 0 sense

[lament plank]

Such as the wildcat, I saw the changes is it an actual AA now or what?

[sharp marten]

Until then they’ll have a different set of rules to play by

[upbeat sluice]

@lament plank it's always been an AA lol

[lament plank]

I haven’t played the game since aug 1 when I deployed

[remote kiln]

the wildcat is still overpowered as shit but you can destroy it with a tank with 3 shells now

[eager spire]

You didn't offer any substantial viewpoints to consider, you literally just said:

"I don't think pros should be allowed to have an opinion on gameplay"
"why"
"something i like got nerfed because pro players i don't watch didn't like it"
"but it was actually a problem"
"skill issue"

[upbeat sluice]

@remote kiln it's not but cope

[sharp marten]

Stay mad

[lament plank]

Yeeeaaaahh no it hasn’t lol they had to buff it’s cannons and range to be able to kill aircraft. As anti infantry it was way better

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/me-gaming-we-do-a-little-gaming-we-do-a-little-bit-of-gaming-gif-23897236

[eager spire]

you're the one that's mad about pro players having opinions.

[radiant prism]

God it infuriates me how people think “cope” is an actual argument for anything

[upbeat sluice]

@lament plank 30mm and flak shreds helos

[remote kiln]

it has a 800m lock on range to air vehicles 3 positions for gunnery 30mm cannon shells to damage heavy armour, which part of it isn't broken

?

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-frank-can-i-offer-you-a-nice-egg-in-this-trying-time-gif-13802522

[radiant prism]

Which I guess is bound to get them to just say “cope” or “cry about it” or some other non argument

[quaint wigeon]

i wonder if ppl ever remind themselves that games at the end of the day are for entertainment value and stress relieving at some degree

[sharp marten]

Honestly I didn’t care to much for the self res until it got taken out it was a ez kill

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-frank-sunny-iasip-philly-gif-23298149

[upbeat sluice]

@remote kiln they part where it dies easily now?

[remote kiln]

perhaps that's a signal of your own skill then lol

[eager spire]

"UH SHIT I DON'T HAVE A COUNTERPOINT, UHHHH COPE"

[lament plank]

Yes NOW it shreds air. Not so much before.

[arctic grove]

OH ya, guess what today is.

[sharp marten]

You’re the one that’s mad about your invalid low iq opinion cope Mald seethe

[arctic grove]

in 45 MIN actually!

[upbeat sluice]

so you answered your own question lmao

[remote kiln]

no it has always shredded air since the August patch

that hasnt changed

[eager spire]

i'm not mad, i'm right.

[lament plank]

Ok ok so what’s CURRENTLY broken lol

[remote kiln]

the wildcat as I said and the avancys

about it

[lament plank]

Is that the new vehicle?

[sharp marten]

You’re definitely not right lmao

[remote kiln]

no it's a LMG

the new vehicle is the ram

[eager spire]

Input is also still busted, and the AM40 is still broken as far as i can tell, has the wrong mag capacities and also the wrong headshot multiplier.

[upbeat sluice]

helo pilots will always whine about AA. such is the circle of battlefield

[drowsy shuttle]

its an assault rifle disguised as lmg

[remote kiln]

basically

[remote kiln]

except I don't play air lol, I play tanks

[eager spire]

I am right, because consider this, professional players have a way better understanding of how mechanics in a given game work, and how they are frequently used. If anything, they should be the only ones who's feedback is valued.

[sharp marten]

Facts

[sharp marten]

No you’re really not

[arctic grove]

If I had my way, I'd make the LMG recoil pull down from the top of your desk to the bottom of your desk. Which would do 1 of 2 things. 1.) shorter bursts casual players 2.) skill gap more hardcore players.

[eager spire]

Okay, do you have any counterpoints?

[eager spire]

what are you saying here?

[arctic grove]

nothing at all

[sharp marten]

Yes

[upbeat sluice]

@remote kiln then you should be able to kill AA easily

[quaint wigeon]

yeah and at the same time pro players will bitch about anything

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/pro-gamur-gif-20729392

[quaint wigeon]

they play video games long enough each day to find something to bitch about

[arctic grove]

why isn't this game making me look good.

xD

[remote kiln]

kill a heavy armour which moves faster than tanks has a faster turret rotation and deals more damage than a tank? it just sounds like you don't know why the wildcat is overpowered to begin with

[upbeat sluice]

sounds like you're getting dumpstered by AA and need to adapt

[remote kiln]

c4 actually but sure go on lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

thats odd... battlefield 2042 makes me feel im a pro. (and im not)

[arctic grove]

we have vertical control attachments right?

True, very true. After a long week i can't wait to go in and casually do some headshots. The HS sound effects are "muah" perfection.

[quaint wigeon]

personally i deal with this via sundance wingsuit a high vantage point and c5

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

Im off to go warm up for FNB, catch ya'll later

[remote kiln]

then the wildcat shoots you out the air because it also has a much higher vertical range than a mbt

[tame cobalt]

I deal with wildcat with c4 jeep

ez

[arctic grove]

the wildcat is OP right now but against a tank?

I don't have a prob

[quaint wigeon]

why are u in a position to get shot then lol, why are u not taking a route that disguises your presence?

like you can time when you go in bro dont just rush in there

[remote kiln]

what are you talking about, tanks literally can't move except on roads

[tame cobalt]

[sharp marten]

Alright let’s say they did add back the self res you had a horizon a fuse and gibby on your team horizon alt gain height advantage fuse cluster their resing teammate gibby alt them as well then where is that self res now? And I bet you’ll say but what about WatTsoN literally just shoot it and nade spam that will render the res shield user useless

[remote kiln]

ever tried getting a tank over some rocks?

[tame cobalt]

wrong server

[remote kiln]

wrong server but wattson is garbage so yeah lol

[sharp marten]

Who?

[arctic grove]

there aint rocks everywhere but that are less mobile good point lol but I have no issue taking out wildcats in a tank

[remote kiln]

you you're in the wrong server

[sharp marten]

Asked

[quaint wigeon]

oh well if you're talking about tanks yeah they're garbo other than using heat shells imo

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

they are less mobile*

[tame cobalt]

bro took the "2042 is the same as apex legends" reddit comments too seriously

[upbeat sluice]

tanks really just need aps and they'd be in a decent spot

[remote kiln]

you figured out the problem, tank people dont have a choice but to use HEAT if they want to deal with infantry because of the non existent splash radius of the other shells

[quaint wigeon]

i feel like tanks are just used to counter other armored vehicles in 2042

[arctic grove]

I'd tank it vs a wildcat

[tame cobalt]

[remote kiln]

MPATs and APs are absolutely terrible at infantry combat

[sharp marten]

To seriously 😒

[tame cobalt]

demands from infantry players is too high for dice to care about proper vehicle balance, only care about making them not annoying to infantry

[cosmic sequoia]

The tanks in this game just suck

Huge step down from bf5

[quaint wigeon]

they really werent annoying in any other battlefield where are these demands coming from

[cosmic sequoia]

Tanks could deflect shots, had all types of equipment upgrades

[tame cobalt]

2042 launch

[cosmic sequoia]

This 200%

[remote kiln]

and they give a fake reactive armour to tanks in 2042 cosmetically

[cosmic sequoia]

Infantry blueberries cry so loud when the game doesn’t revolve around them

[quaint wigeon]

just how many COD snotted 8 yr olds buy 2042 and started giving "feedback"

[cosmic sequoia]

^^^

[tame cobalt]

Same could be said for vehicle blueberries tbh

[cosmic sequoia]

Infantry combat almost unplayable

I mean vehcile***

[remote kiln]

you know how much DICE care about vehicles, that it took a car to have APS, for them to "consider" adding it to tanks

[upbeat sluice]

i have no issue

[quaint wigeon]

it feels clunky in 2042

[tame cobalt]

vehicles were farming infantry at launch

[quaint wigeon]

but at least good ole switcheroo and c5 trick still works

[tame cobalt]

helis and boltes

[remote kiln]

let's not even get started on the fact jets die in 5 bullets

[cosmic sequoia]

I have no issue on exodus, but GOD FORBID I want to play a 2042 map. Have to sit there and jerk it while I wait my turn for a chopper

[arctic grove]

and why is AP so crap against infantry, punching holes can still kill

[sharp marten]

I’m ready for that vehicle category rework

[cosmic sequoia]

Why do the 64 player titles have more vehicles? It’s mind boggling

[upbeat sluice]

i love the weight of the latvs in 2042. being able to push tanks is hilarious

[eager spire]

The vehicles lack depth. it's incredibly easy for some rando to take a vehicle and do well with it.

[tame cobalt]

[remote kiln]

the exodus maps inherited the attributes for vehicle numbers aswell from the prior games

[tame cobalt]

Good

[remote kiln]

it's why caspian has 3/4 heavy vehicles at each spawn

[quaint wigeon]

sorry man but i have a hard time believing that when you could simply just parachute and c5 a vehicle in spawn like there are so many options to take down armored vehicles in this game its crazy

[eager spire]

no that's not good.

[cosmic sequoia]

Idk, 9 times out of 10, I’ll watch someone take an attack chopper and their run lasts literally 1 minute or less

[quaint wigeon]

C5 parachute being the quickest

[upbeat sluice]

@eager spire lol hop in an latv with a random gunner and get back to me

[quaint wigeon]

mb

[tame cobalt]

high skill ceiling on vehicles is bad

[eager spire]

why is that bad

[arctic grove]

many players don't take the time to learn how to fly helicopters. or adjust controlls. they just use them to transport

[quaint wigeon]

jk im not tryna learn helis just to be hacked half the game

[solid imp]

offended

[cosmic sequoia]

This 200% any class can have AA, specialists have certain AA perks or AT perks

[quaint wigeon]

because rao exists

[remote kiln]

it's not a player issue, helicopters have 5 different ways of being instantly destroyed

[arctic grove]

Seeùs to

[remote kiln]

it isn't a condor with health

[cosmic sequoia]

Super hinds are op

[arctic grove]

Seems to hard to learn it on keyboard and mouse

[cosmic sequoia]

Too much health

[arctic grove]

I have lasted entire matches in helis.

[solid imp]

correct to: they just use them to transport as a personal taxi and ditch

[remote kiln]

a tow missile tank shell 3 second gunfire from a jet 2/3 tgms etc will all down a helicopter

[quaint wigeon]

superhinds can take down any other attack chopper tbh

[cosmic sequoia]

Yep

[arctic grove]

good luck hitting me with a TGM😋

[cosmic sequoia]

Why does an attack chopper LOSE go a super hind

A transport helicopter

[tame cobalt]

cuz then the balancing becomes
• vehicle sweat destroying lobby
• vehicle gets nerfed so average players are useless with vehicles
• vehicle sweat still dominates lobby anyway cuz skill ceiling is high

[quaint wigeon]

2 miniguns with alot of health yeah try beating that

[full burrow]

a rando in a vehicle isnt just auto good

[remote kiln]

cause they got nerfed lmao

[arctic grove]

did they nerf miniguns?

[full burrow]

he can easy be out of position and be taken out by one guy

[errant scarab]

Increase perfomance

[full burrow]

or one guy deciding to parachute over them

[arctic grove]

miniguns sucking lately

[solid imp]

another reason why any argument that the G84 TGM is OP is totally malarcky

[cosmic sequoia]

2 mini guns AND A 50mm CANNON

If you are caught lacking

[quaint wigeon]

lol i didnt even know that was a topic of concern tbh

[remote kiln]

people started whining about the 30mm in helicopters during the beta and DICE made them unusable

[cosmic sequoia]

That cannon will blow you up in 2 shots

[remote kiln]

is the tldr

[cosmic sequoia]

Not only that

They reduced the amount of choppers to 2-3 to 1

[arctic grove]

check out mini gun range lately it's really bad

[eager spire]

frankly why shouldn't a skilled player dominate a lobby. Especially if that player took a significant amount of time to learn how to get good at their vehicle.

[remote kiln]

that was cause of the stealth heli specifically

[cosmic sequoia]

They nerfed all the rockets into the ground so there’s no splash damage whatsoever

[tame cobalt]

cuz it makes the game shit

[eager spire]

And vehicle nerfs for that reason shouldn't happen.

[cosmic sequoia]

The stealth heli never should have made it in the game

[tame cobalt]

for the vast majority of the playerbase

[cosmic sequoia]

Real men fly the hokum and the Apache

[remote kiln]

cause everyone needs a participation trophy!

[quaint wigeon]

they do bro but its cuz no one on the other team cared to equip rao with stingers

[eager spire]

So what, do you just hate good players being rewarded for being good?

[tame cobalt]

Yes i do

[remote kiln]

which is why DICE should never listen to the casuals

[eager spire]

Actual skill issue.

[arctic grove]

that is the way to go about it fo shure

[quaint wigeon]

or no one hopped in a wildcat and went with the ram instead

[tame cobalt]

When it's captain shitbucket getting a 200 kill streak in a heli, that shit shouldn't exist period

[eager spire]

You hate good players being rewarded for being good so you'd rather their abilities be dumbed down mechanically to make things easier for you.

[quaint wigeon]

like this is the most antivehicle BF if yall havent noticed

[arctic grove]

quit hating on casual players, they are part of the community too

[remote kiln]

TGMs aren't enough! no nerf the vehicles instead

such dumb logic

[quaint wigeon]

even the fucking repair tool has an overheat system

and where tf is the bot with the repair tool (forgot what its called)

[cosmic sequoia]

For real

The most anti vehicle battlefield to date, no cap

[eager spire]

If rewarding good players for being good is hating on casual players than they can go fuck themselves.

[cosmic sequoia]

When it launched it had potential for great vehicle gameplay

[dapper river]

EOD bot will be added in season 3

[arctic grove]

not you

[remote kiln]

^ till every player who got killed by a vehicle started complaining as per usual of every title in this franchise

jets helicopters tanks everything

something something is too powerful

[cosmic sequoia]

Yep

[dapper river]

Well jets have been fucking awful since beta

[cosmic sequoia]

The vehicles were strong on release

[remote kiln]

DICE should add a filter list for all this bs

[cosmic sequoia]

But everything was so broken

[tame cobalt]

Rewarding good players with 200 kill streaks

Heli sweats should be auto banned as a reward for their dedication

[quaint wigeon]

okay i consider myself casual but im also good at least to some degree

[remote kiln]

they do get auto banned lmao

you got what you wanted

[tame cobalt]

[proud gorge]

I made a jet player rage in 2042

[arctic grove]

Using a jet in 2042 is just weird

[proud gorge]

He stopped his jet to hover and I shot a ATG at him

[arctic grove]

never seen somebody use it

[dapper river]

Season 1 launch, I didn't get auto-banned for going on a 150 killstreak with the then-buffed Hind with 50mm

[proud gorge]

I always use the jets

Air to ground nice rocket for them

And with the speed of the after burner you rarely get hacked or locked on

[remote kiln]

I'm talking about in 4, you can get auto banned by the anticheat on servers if your TTK is too fast

happens a lot with helicopter pilots

[tame cobalt]

Good

[dapper river]

Thank you DICE, very cool

[eager spire]

that's not a DICE thing.

[remote kiln]

that's cause they also got nerfed after the beta

too powerful! apparently cause they can destroy vehicles