battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

[lunar finch]

Like the background of kaleidoscope looks more awesome than the map itself

[serene wolf]

Yes

Wish we had a European city map

[lunar finch]

A suburban US or Canada residential map would be sick

[serene wolf]

YES

[keen loom]

[tame cobalt]

Just play in the skyscraper section then

[lunar finch]

Imagine just a bunch of modern suburban homes with maybe like a shopping center in the middle

I still think a giant mall map would be peak

[tame cobalt]

Would be a fantastic setting for an infantry only map

[serene wolf]

Fuckin exactly, map flow would work great for Breakthrough and Rush as well

[lunar finch]

Imagine fighting in a fictional target or walmart

Omg

Please dice please

[tame cobalt]

no

[lunar finch]

Precisely

[eager spire]

What's wrong with that idea?

That sounds like a fine idea.

[tame cobalt]

Giant mall can do more exciting than walmart

[eager spire]

probably wouldn't work with 128 players but

[lunar finch]

The Walmart wouldnt be the entire map just a flag

[tame cobalt]

But at the end of the day we will only get 2 more maps and there's only so many possibilities there...

[lunar finch]

Im just sick of the maps we have

"Citys" with no interesting buildings and destroyed boats

[tame cobalt]

Kaleidoscope central building is interesting

especially in 2.0

[keen loom]

Kaleid but with out the scope

[eager spire]

I think the game is severely lacking smaller scale maps/modes, and Portal does not count, dammit, those servers aren't even persistent and all people wanna do with that is fucking 900% hardcore realism shit

[tame cobalt]

Whatever your theories are for the next maps, make sure it's a location that can reasonably have a lot of shipping containers

[tame cobalt]

rush

[eager spire]

From what i've heard Rush in this game is terrible. People still wanna stuff 128 players in it.

[lunar finch]

Its a server center and the indoors area is small

[tame cobalt]

that's just players being braindead

and that's why portal is doomed as a concept

[lunar finch]

Kaleidoscopes main building does not impress me at all. From the outside it looks cool but inside its mediocre

[tame cobalt]

give the players control and they'll just ruin the game

[eager spire]

Portal would be a lot more than it is but you just get ridiculous bullshit made by people who can't play the game so they change the rules

[tame cobalt]

[lunar finch]

Dice just could do better creatively

[tame cobalt]

Rush gets objectively, progressively worse the higher the playercount goes beyond 32 players

But people still play that 128 rush shit cuz they're addicted to the endless dopamine hits

[eager spire]

Honestly, I would've liked it if Portal maps were made exactly the same as their original counterparts, made for 64 players at the most.

You wanna stuff 128 players. You can try. But it won't work.

You'll run into issues, and you'll just have to deal with that.

128 players in a match is a fucking stupid idea anyway.

[tame cobalt]

particularly with rush

[eager spire]

like that was tested back in BF3. It was possible, they just decided it wasn't worth it because it wasn't good from a gameplay perspective.

[tame cobalt]

They should just add lockers in the game , make a permanent 128 player lockers mode, and just let those people play that forever until their brains melt

[lunar finch]

I think 128p works if the map design is good sometimes better than 64

[serene wolf]

Honesty a Forge-like feature in the game would be great

[lunar finch]

Like stranded 128 felt great

[eager spire]

If Lockers were in the game, i'd run a 32 player server. Shotguns and Grenade launchers banned. No specialists.

[tame cobalt]

[serene wolf]

Would 100% extend the game’s lifespan

[tame cobalt]

Stranded is the worst example you could've given

[lunar finch]

I love stranded?

The conquest 24/7 stranded playlist for me was a blast

[tame cobalt]

128 doesn't make stranded better

It makes it worse

[eager spire]

ah yes cause map design has been DICE's strong suit so far, they've had like, 7 misses and 1 hit so far.

[tame cobalt]

8 misses

If we add stranded

[eager spire]

I'm counting stranded.

The game launched with 6 maps, didn't it?

[lunar finch]

Yeah if they could just get their shit together with map design 128 would be fine

And tbh

[tame cobalt]

7 misses and 2 hits (exposure and manifest)

[tame cobalt]

7

[lunar finch]

Dice has never been good with map design imo

[tame cobalt]

[copper fulcrum]

I count 8 hits

[eager spire]

if they've been this bad with map design for so long what makes you think they're gonna fix that.

[tame cobalt]

If dice were never good with map design, battlefield would've been dead long before bad company came out

[eager spire]

I thought most of BF4's DLC was underwhelming.

[lunar finch]

Cant teach an old dog new tricks

[rocky kraken]

guys

why my character covered in mud

like all mud

[lunar finch]

Dice just doesnt do well with maps tbh

[tame cobalt]

[lunar finch]

Bf1s maps were pretty but it felt frustrating at times to play on

Especially when tanks destroyed all the cover on the map

[eager spire]

BF1 was aesthetics over gameplay.

[copper fulcrum]

I'd rather play any 2042 map over any BF4 map

[lunar finch]

Based

[tame cobalt]

just keep in mind bf1 launch maps were designed for breakthrough

[eager spire]

2042 has no infantry focused maps at all.

[copper fulcrum]

Good

Also Stranded

Manifest is great for infantry too

[eager spire]

Stranded is not infantry focused.

[copper fulcrum]

tf you think it is then?

[tame cobalt]

You know what's interesting the games that are designed for conquest have better player retention than the games designed for breakthrough/rush

[serene wolf]

wut

[tame cobalt]

People come to battlefield for conquest

[eager spire]

They claim it is but it just isn't. The ship area is garbage, and the outside area isn't much better.

[copper fulcrum]

It's certainly not a vehicle map

[tame cobalt]

Stranded is cancer focused

Manifest is the cqc map, exposure 2nd

Kaleidoscope 3rd

[copper fulcrum]

That's slowly shifting bit by bit

[tame cobalt]

Not sure about that

[eager spire]

They fucked up conquest in BF1.

[sick crag]

solo/co-op vehicle progression does not work

why?

[eager spire]

They just straight up ruined it.

[copper fulcrum]

Conquest was awful in BF1

[copper fulcrum]

It goes to a certain point but you can unlock all attachments and whatnot through solo/co-op

[tame cobalt]

Bf1 was designed for breakthrough and had some missteps in conquest as a result, and it ended up having poorer player retention than the conquest focuser bf4 and bfv

[eager spire]

yeah and it was that way for the sake of having Operations in the game.

[sick crag]

Weapons run correctly but vehicles not

[lunar finch]

^

[sick crag]

I got few kills with jets

but its suddenly stop

[tame cobalt]

I loved bf1 very much tho ❤️

And k didn't even play operations

[eager spire]

BF1 sucked shit from a gameplay perspective, had way too many problems that just shouldn't have been there.

[tame cobalt]

Tons of fun in conquest and domination and war pigeons

[eager spire]

Conquest got fucked up by making so the team with the score advantage keeps scoring despite losing majority of flags, Domination has flag caps that are way too fast and also should've had squad spawning disabled.

[tame cobalt]

Yall thknk they'll make the renewal tdm map to a new location in 2.0

[copper fulcrum]

FIELDS

[tame cobalt]

renewal tdm map is ass water

literally called fields

They should've just called it pain

[eager spire]

God that must be a fucking joke

[tame cobalt]

Inside joke from the map team maybe

[arctic grove]

Red army for the 1942 portal would be good

[eager spire]

it would be appreciated if they actually made good maps, acknowledging bad map design doesn't matter if you're just going to keep fucking doing it.

[tame cobalt]

I think the point at the solar farm could definitely be the new renewal tdm

[copper fulcrum]

Imagine 128 player Berlin TDM

[eager spire]

128 player TDM sounds awful.

[arctic grove]

A japan faction would be good

[eager spire]

maps are too small.

[arctic grove]

I agree

[tame cobalt]

facts

[arctic grove]

that stuff would be annoying

[copper fulcrum]

That's the featured mode rn

[eager spire]

cool, point still stands.

[tame cobalt]

Just like stranded is too small for 128 players

[eager spire]

that's an awful idea.

[arctic grove]

I bet dice is really working hard on adding one new gun to the game.

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[eager spire]

i bet they're working really hard on those new vault weapons.

[tame cobalt]

They're trying to figure out an excuse for bringing the chauchat to 2042

[arctic grove]

BF1 for portal

[eager spire]

How long was the M16A3 in the game before it was ported to AOW, btw?

[tame cobalt]

Years

[arctic grove]

since day 1

[tame cobalt]

Decade

[eager spire]

cool so it took them over 9 months to port it, and they didn't even bother making a T1 skin for it, or working on it's attachments, or fixing the visual recoil so it's in line with the other weapons in 2042.

sick

[arctic grove]

I miss back when dice wasn't lazy

[tame cobalt]

They're not lazy.

[iron socket]

And Sundance should be labeled as non-binary!

[arctic grove]

2042 has so much potential

[tame cobalt]

Calling them lazy is just ignorant

They're mismanaged

[eager spire]

They already are.

not that it matters that much, but they are.

[dapper river]

Battlefield.

[low timber]

M16A3 was even in the Beta, there are videos of people glitching the Beta where they played as the BF3 characters with BF3 gear.

[iron socket]

How? They don’t label their pronouns

[arctic grove]

it took them like 7 months to add a scoreboard

and still doesn't have a team switch

[iron socket]

I’m tired of people saying “she/her” for Sundance!

[arctic grove]

simple things they can't add for some reason

[iron socket]

Or switching squads

[eager spire]

https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1451294861898964995

[tame cobalt]

Sundance is a hot they

[copper fulcrum]

Any thing that describes Sundance like bios and whatnot uses They and Them instead of She and Her, in game and in websites

[eager spire]

Oh yeah, you still can't choose what squad you wanna switch to, can you?

[arctic grove]

Wait i think you can

but it still took them forever to add it

[tame cobalt]

How dice can reborn battlefield:

[eager spire]

I donno, last i heard it just kinda randomly put you in another squad

[arctic grove]

They added bot squads for AOW but not for portal

[tame cobalt]

Make a new game, called Battlefield 2

[bronze steeple]

Am40 for president

[tame cobalt]

Have a bunch of bf2, bf3, bf4 maps in it, in addition to new maps

Art direction like bf4

[bronze steeple]

2042 rocks dont make a new game

[tame cobalt]

Gameplay like refined version of 2042

[bronze steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[tame cobalt]

And then support that product for 5 years

That's how you make the proper battlefield game in 2024

[arctic grove]

the 2042 in "Battlefield 2042" stands for when the next update will come out

[bronze steeple]

Nope

[tame cobalt]

[bronze steeple]

Are you shitting me

[arctic grove]

it's true

[tame cobalt]

I described literally the best possible outcome

[dapper river]

Some of the devs referred to sundance as a "her" in one of the unlisted dev update videos. So, canonically, I say her pronouns are She/They. 😎

[bronze steeple]

I didnt played any bf before v so i dont know @tame cobalt

[dapper river]

Orbital is not until october

[eager spire]

interesting, no profile picture, no roles, generic name, claims that 2042 is the best game.

[dapper river]

2042 is the best game

[eager spire]

are you getting paid?

[dapper river]

[eager spire]

i think he's getting paid.

[arctic grove]

it doesn't even say they're new to discord

must be an old alt

[bronze steeple]

[copper fulcrum]

True

[tame cobalt]

Well you'll know when that happens

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

I agree

[edgy oriole]

2042 is definitely a game

[copper fulcrum]

Legitimately the only game worth playing

[bronze steeple]

[eager spire]

to be honest, that just signals to me that they never really cared about making her nonbinary, they just did that to get brownie points. They can't even keep it consistent within their employees.

[arctic grove]

yes

[tame cobalt]

1 game with strike at karkand and grand bazaar and propaganda

[eager spire]

Splatoon 3 did just come out.

[arctic grove]

That game is so repetitive

[dapper river]

such are the ways of business

[edgy oriole]

[tame cobalt]

I gotta slwpe noe

[eager spire]

yeah i know. doesn't mean i'm not gonna be annoyed about it.

[edgy oriole]

imma be playing 2042 on reset days and splatoon rest of the week mixed with single player games

[tame cobalt]

Spla6oon

Wish i could move to a region that plays mp games

[edgy oriole]

where you at

[tame cobalt]

south africa

[edgy oriole]

[bronze steeple]

Come to europe

[edgy oriole]

time to pack it up to north africa

[tame cobalt]

too far to play on any other region

[eager spire]

I do wish 2042 is worth playing eventually, but right now? Nah. I'd rather play BF4 occasionally than try to wrestle with that unoptimized mess with bad mouse input.

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

Not really unoptimized for me

I get like 110 fps on the AOW maps

[tame cobalt]

My mouse input is great (i play controller only)

[eager spire]

It would run like ass on my system.

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 1

[eager spire]

I tried the open beta, just nah.

[eager spire]

what about BF1

[tame cobalt]

Sinai

Town

[bronze steeple]

Enjoy that

[tame cobalt]

That's where i hang out on sinai

[arctic grove]

Sinai 128CQ would be epic

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

I don’t have bad mouse input

[eager spire]

I don't get the appeal of having 128 players in a match.

[arctic grove]

Skill issue ig

[tame cobalt]

Sinai 64 already saturates all the POIs

The village would be a clusterfuck

[bronze steeple]

Cq 128 is great i miss bt 128 tbh

[arctic grove]

A clusterfuck of fun

[arctic grove]

Same

[tame cobalt]

I get the appeal with large maps like manifest

[arctic grove]

Why did they remove 128

Because people whine

[tame cobalt]

It's a cool big map that would be very empty with 64

[eager spire]

Personally i'm not that impressed by large maps. When they announced 128 players, my first thought was "god they're gonna make the maps massive to compensate"

and then they did

and they were all terrible

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

[bronze steeple]

[tame cobalt]

manifest is good tho

[arctic grove]

No

I hate that map

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[eager spire]

do you have any interest in actually providing commentary to this conversation or are you just going to say skill issue to everything

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

[bronze steeple]

@eager spire skill issue

[eager spire]

ok

[arctic grove]

[eager spire]

Manifest is the Season 1 map innit

[arctic grove]

Exposure is

[bronze steeple]

Manifest best map

[arctic grove]

🤮

[tame cobalt]

Manifest crate map

[arctic grove]

128 Operations. At total ww1 clusterfuck

[bronze steeple]

Like fight over b on hills

[tame cobalt]

And a

[bronze steeple]

Export great map too

[eager spire]

Ohh, that one.

[tame cobalt]

Manifest cq128 might get a bit too much traffic on the hill, but despite that, i feel like all the other sectors get good action as well

Great cq128 map

[bronze steeple]

Never to much action at b

[tame cobalt]

those battles for b are fantastic

[proud gorge]

46 out of 400

Lis mastery gonna be the death of me

[arctic grove]

If it makes you feel any better

I’m also grinding lis T1 🥲

[tame cobalt]

yee manifest and exposure best cq128, Kaleidoscope 2.0 and orbital behind them

[arctic grove]

Slowly getting there

[low timber]

181/400

[tame cobalt]

Let's see how they'll rank when renewal 2 and orbital 2 come out

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna bite you

[low timber]

Actually got an enemy F-35 today with the G-84, they were hovering and about to take off.

[tame cobalt]

And if manifest 2 somehow actually makes manifest cq128 better, it will be the best map in battlefield history.

I said it

[low timber]

Also decided to try to AT mines at the same time, only got one vehicle destroy (with 3 passengers)

I wonder how much damage one of those mines does
Like could you get easy Lis Mastery progress if two mines deals enough damage for one rocket to finish

[bronze steeple]

I like discarded too

[tame cobalt]

It's aight

[bronze steeple]

[tame cobalt]

Wnere do play on discarded

Everyone just on c and d

E flag is kinda shit

C flag is a suicide mission

[rocky kraken]

ok

but like

can they fix portal

PLEASe

[tame cobalt]

Village is aight, I'm not there much tho cuz i feel it's kinda strategically not valuable

[eager spire]

How could they fix portal

[tame cobalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager spire]

most of Portal's issues are caused by the people using it

[tame cobalt]

Based

[eager spire]

I think Battlefield players just shouldn't be trusted.

[serene wolf]

[tame cobalt]

And difference between forge and bf is players needed in a server

[arctic grove]

But you play bf

[tame cobalt]

Halo you can playtest the server with what, 5 randoms

Bf you need 63 people in that shit

[bronze steeple]

Boat mainly d and c and b

[rocky kraken]

no like

1942 portal

is so lackluster

2 weapons per class

bascially

[bronze steeple]

I never play portal to less servers with many players

[rocky kraken]

im in a rush 1942 game and its full

its fun but

[tame cobalt]

Because 1942 is an ancient ass game

[rocky kraken]

doesnt feel immersive at all

[eager spire]

Yeah. Like, here are the things i'd change in Portal.

Make it so you can't increase damage above 200%. You don't need the damage to be any higher than that, and if you say you do, you're lying.
Blacklist the words Hardcore and Realism

[bronze steeple]

I dont want many maps i never played before

Why combine everything together maps off diff bf games and vehicles and weapons etc..

[serene wolf]

128 player rush on that 1942 map is pure chaos

[rocky kraken]

its 32 player that im on

its fn

fun

tho assault class sucks

are they planning on adding any new maps for portal?

[eager spire]

Also, i'd make it so 2042 attachments could be put on BC2/BF3 weapons.

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky kraken]

probably not tbh

no one plays portal

[serene wolf]

Has Ripple Effect actually done anything since launch?

[eager spire]

they've added guns

that's about it

[copper fulcrum]

Almost like 1942 didn't have many weapons

[tame cobalt]

Break balancing

[serene wolf]

Bruh

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic grove]

portal itself isn't too popular but I think a fair few people enjoy exodus conquest which has all the portal maps included in rotation

[tame cobalt]

they are making new bf experience for the next game

[eager spire]

people don't play portal because the people that are currently making Portal experiences are stupid

[serene wolf]

Ah I see

[tame cobalt]

Ripple effect dropping portal to make fart zone 2

[arctic grove]

almost half the portal experiences are just XP grind servers

[eager spire]

or 900% hardcore realism no launchers

[arctic grove]

nobody seems to want to make any really interesting experiences

[tame cobalt]

Facts

[eager spire]

Or 128 players where there really shouldn't be

[tame cobalt]

Bf community is too braindead for portal

[bronze steeple]

Fk that

[arctic grove]

why?

whats wrong with it lol

I like the classic maps

[eager spire]

Servers aren't even persistent in BF Portal

so nobody's seriously running servers.

[arctic grove]

yeah that doesn't help

[bronze steeple]

I enjoy breakthrough and conquest

[tame cobalt]

But halo has forge and cod is getting level editor so the might as. Well commit with portal for the next game

[eager spire]

CoD is getting level editor

[arctic grove]

they need to actually put the effort into it this time

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[rocky kraken]

okay so

[arctic grove]

more classic maps, the most popular ones, more eras

[eager spire]

source?

[rocky kraken]

battlefield feel sbetter with the lowest fps

fov

i meant

[eager spire]

uh

[tame cobalt]

I made it up

[eager spire]

k

[arctic grove]

and expand upon the editor

[tame cobalt]

But it's true

[sharp marten]

Yeah I saw cod is getting a level editor

That’s pretty neat tho ngl

[eager spire]

Well now i'm just not believing it

[sharp marten]

Literally google is free

[tame cobalt]

Cod mfs just gonna make nuketown and call it a day

[sharp marten]

Fax

[arctic grove]

is it supposed to be part of MW2?

I haven't been keeping up with it tbh

[tame cobalt]

Then Activision will sue them for using their IP

[bronze steeple]

Aow needs to have focus of dice not portal

[arctic grove]

I think you messed up that sentence a bit my dude

[rich flicker]

[bronze steeple]

Nope looks fine to me

[arctic grove]

👀

mhm

[tame cobalt]

Well that's how it is

[sharp marten]

Yes

[bronze steeple]

Treu story

[arctic grove]

yes but the point is that it isn't DICE making portal, its ripple effect

[bronze steeple]

Then fk ripple

[serene wolf]

LOL

[bronze steeple]

xD

[eager spire]

okay, so the CoD Level Editor is one of those "an anonymous insider claimed" things.

[bronze steeple]

I just dont play it but when you enjoy it

[arctic grove]

It seems like all ripple effect are actually doing right now is moving the portal weapons into AOW, it shouldn't be a difficult task and yet its taken them forever just to bring a few over

[eager spire]

which means i'm not gonna believe it because we're like 2 months out from the game being released and they're not gonna advertise that?

🤔

[rocky kraken]

why aint ripple making portal better

[bronze steeple]

Who needs 100 year old m16 in aow

[serene wolf]

It’s probably because of the spaghetti code the new Frostbite engine is built on

[arctic grove]

probably because DICE and EA have dragged them over to help fix issues with the base game

[serene wolf]

Explains why they aren’t porting any new maps either

Must be a monumental task

[arctic grove]

and then do these weapon migrations so that the base game has more weapons available

[serene wolf]

This too

[arctic grove]

and they've done a pretty poor job of that too imo

ripple should have been left working on portal and adding new content to it from the previous titles to make it more interesting. If it had actually been thought through properly, then portal could easily have been a multi-generational aspect, incorporated into all future battlefield games, not just a 1-time gimmick

As each new game comes out, content in portal is brought forward, including content from the last game. To add onto the new.

[serene wolf]

My sentiments exactly

[arctic grove]

Though that may well be impossible because of frostbite, if the engine was better they could probably do that, and cross-play across different games. Imagine being able to play on a portal server regardless of whether you are playing 2042 or the next game, or the game after.

[bronze steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-english-rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-english-comedians-yawning-gif-17834150

[eager spire]

now we're starting to sound like Warzone and i'm a bit sick of Warzone's integration.

[arctic grove]

Eh, warzone did a pretty poor job of it

It could be truly amazing if done right

but it would take a ton of work, and much better devs than DICE and ripple effect

[bronze steeple]

I dont want something like that just make aow better and forget portal

[arctic grove]

bruh, just because you don't care for it, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same

you can stick to the same boring base game if you want

[bronze steeple]

It sucks

[rocky kraken]

portal should recieve the same effort as aow

[arctic grove]

Its time battlefield did something unique

[rocky kraken]

it has the base of portal down

but

it needs more content and more quality

[arctic grove]

and a cross-generational, multi-game system like portal would most likely draw in a ton of people, old and new

[bronze steeple]

Maybe go work at batlefield with all your briliant ideas

[rocky kraken]

sander stfu

[bronze steeple]

Lol

[arctic grove]

wish I could bro, but I imagine that EA would wear down my resolve and i'd end up in the same state as all the other DICE and RE devs

[bronze steeple]

Skill issue

[arctic grove]

Personality issue

[bronze steeple]

I am out you talk to much

[arctic grove]

Anyway im done here, this troll is killing me

[lone void]

There's no reason portal couldn't or shouldn't live on through future games

[bronze steeple]

Nerd

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[eager spire]

You talk too much
it's almost like a discord server where people are meant to talk or something.

[sharp marten]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Child

[eager spire]

literally fucking shill bot lookin ass, you think your opinion fuckin matters

[lone void]

Can you two block each other and move on

[arctic grove]

Don't worry I already blocked him

[bronze steeple]

Great

[lone void]

You seem awfully offended for someone just talking on a discord server

[rocky kraken]

exodus breakthrough would suck

[lone void]

Ok and

[rocky kraken]

jk

love u

[lone void]

Play something else

[rocky kraken]

😦

[bronze steeple]

Ass

[arctic grove]

Honestly im never gonna say no to more options for gamemodes

[lone void]

[arctic grove]

if they did an exodus breakthrough it would give more options

[rocky kraken]

add behemoth

[sharp marten]

Oh shit stuff got heated

[arctic grove]

nah its all cool

[lone void]

There's plenty of options for everyone to play something they enjoy

[arctic grove]

I don't know what the child is saying to me and I don't care tbh

Yep

[rocky kraken]

ya knoww

[lone void]

If it's not in this game then it'll be in another

[rocky kraken]

dismemberment 1942

[bronze steeple]

Virgin

[lone void]

Bruh please stfu now you don't need to read your autobiography to us all

[bronze steeple]

Right

[eager spire]

not really a lot of options for good FPS games in the current market though, like, truly good ones.

[serene wolf]

I love this channel

[rocky kraken]

i love men

[arctic grove]

yeah its kinda sad

[serene wolf]

One moment we’re having proper discussions

[rocky kraken]

woman*

shit

[serene wolf]

The next we descend into chaos

[lone void]

It was actually fun here earlier today

[rocky kraken]

ok but like

[arctic grove]

Im pretty happy going back to the older BF games, but like, I never really liked the extraction games, or battle royales, and a lot of companies are running after that right now

[rocky kraken]

casper ultimate skin wth

i got a man with a robe

[serene wolf]

[rocky kraken]

...

dont let boin see that

[lone void]

BR is way overplayed rn I want it to die off so bad

[eager spire]

The most you get lately is "ok i guess"

[arctic grove]

sir, this is a battlefield discord server

[rocky kraken]

battle royale ruined gaming in a way

[lone void]

Especially when games that shouldn't try and be BR games try and be BR games

[eager spire]

like there's nothing that i'd say is unironically good.

[lone void]

At least Battlefield tried to make it interesting

[rocky kraken]

hazard zone was honestly pretty fun

but they nuked it

[arctic grove]

I still haven't played hazard zone

[rocky kraken]

its good with friends

[lone void]

It's still shit and nobody plays it but at least it's different

[rocky kraken]

the ai has aimbot

[arctic grove]

I don't have any

[eager spire]

Hazard Zone is a gimped adaptation of a kind of game that DICE cannot replicate.

[lone void]

I have never even tried to play it

[arctic grove]

And if I did, I don't think any of them would play battlefield

[full burrow]

I would consider playing bf1 right now if I could run it fullscreen without black border lines

[lone void]

I tried to play BF1 again recently

[rocky kraken]

hm

[serene wolf]

Next thing you know there’s a battlefield zombie survival game 🗿

[eager spire]

BF1 is an interesting game, but it's not very good.

[somber oxide]

Bf1 is sick

[lone void]

But it was the first time I played it on my PS5 so all the settings were reset and it felt so bizarre

[rocky kraken]

bf1 is just immersive in my opinion

thats why everyone says its good

[arctic grove]

Wasn't there a portal experience with zombies?

[eager spire]

It's aesthetics over gameplay.

[full burrow]

my laptop is 1440p

[eager spire]

That's all it is.

[hexed mango]

hey guys

[somber oxide]

so what is bad in the gameplay?

[hexed mango]

joe here

[full burrow]

and yeah you cant get a proper fullscreen

[lone void]

Hey Joe

[hexed mango]

back from another boring shitty day at work

[eager spire]

Where do i fucking start

[lone void]

[hexed mango]

nowhere, cause there are no issues

[rocky kraken]

guys

[bronze steeple]

[full burrow]

prone rpg

[rocky kraken]

playing on 50 fov is a different game

[serene wolf]

Think I remember a YouTube video about it, but I hardly touch Portal so I wouldn’t know

[somber oxide]

if you think weapons are too op you are just bad

[hexed mango]

bro wtf

[rocky kraken]

ITS A DIFFERENT GAMe

TRY IT

[hexed mango]

worst thing about BC2... you cant change the FOV

[lone void]

Many

[rocky kraken]

I MAY SUCK AT 50 FOV BUT IT LOOKS COOLEr

[serene wolf]

Don’t get me started on the fucking 80 fov lock for consoles on MW2019

[lone void]

I may suck

[hexed mango]

thats what she said

[arctic grove]

Did they end up fixing that or is it still a thing?

[lone void]

Why everyone so obsessed with FOV and frames man like I don't get it

[hexed mango]

(she in question is Lis)

[serene wolf]

NOPE, still a thing

[lone void]

Is it a basement dweller thing I don't understand?

[lone void]

[arctic grove]

I always end up playing with a high FOV, I like having a wider view, and having it low for some reason really messes with my head

[serene wolf]

They locked it for “Performance reasons”

[rocky kraken]

because

fov maxed makes it feel like cod

50 fov feels like battlefield

[lone void]

I can't play with high FOV it fucks with my eyes

[eager spire]

Well, first of all, Conquest in BF1 got fucked up because the team with the score advantage keep scoring after losing flag majority, Suppression still exists, Medic SLR's have too much spread in my opinion, gas grenades hurt you through floors and ceilings, slide got nerfed twice and is basically a worthless mechanic, lighting is busted because of HDR support making looking out of windows on day maps a fucking nightmare, and LMG's hipfire way too well.

[arctic grove]

hmm, im the opposite, maybe its just something you get used to one way or the other

[south grotto]

50 FoV feels like low gen Battlefield, why not capping it at 30 fps while you're at it

[lone void]

[hexed mango]

[rocky kraken]

naw bro

this shit bussin

[arctic grove]

maybe also depends on your screen size, if you have a larger display thats closer to your face, a higher FOV might be preferable

[eager spire]

50 FOV makes the game feel like you think Battlefield should feel*

[lone void]

Still mad that the menus for 2042 are 30fps but in a game they run at 60

[rocky kraken]

true

[south grotto]

Who cares about menu though 😂 I cap the menu FPS at like 15 in every game, when you're in the menu it's because you're idle anyway

[arctic grove]

it can make a difference, 2042s menus can feel sluggish sometimes

the higher the framerate the smoother it is to navigate menus

[hexed mango]

i wish i could even get 30fps

[bronze steeple]

[lone void]

In contrast the menu in battlefront 2 does maintain about 60 fps. It's especially nice when the menu happens to feature dynamic elements like characters and 5 morbillion tabs and items to scroll through to make it less jarring to use

[somber oxide]

some of it is right but its just small things that dont really matter, slide is good I use it as medic all the time, supression is a nice mechanic, a little annoying maybe nbut it makes it more realistic.lighting is sick, maybe your graphic settings arent perfect, LMGs are really good yes but other weapons as well which balances it

[arctic grove]

honestly the menus are the only time I actually manage to hit the 144hz that my monitor runs at

[south grotto]

It's just a matter of 2 clicks most of the time anyway

[lone void]

Console moment

[arctic grove]

eh, not if you are messing about with your loadouts and specialists

as I often do in between games

[keen loom]

[bronze steeple]

Skill issue

[rocky kraken]

whats best fov to play at

[south grotto]

Big F to those who were bragging about their console being better than the most powerful PCs out there

[hexed mango]

0

[arctic grove]

I keep mine at like 75-80

[bronze steeple]

74feels good to me

[lone void]

Ok?

[somber oxide]

at least we got kits which makes the game 10000 times better than specialists

[eager spire]

A fundamental change to how Conquest works doesn't matter?

[somber oxide]

it still works well

[eager spire]

lighting is sick
try looking out of windows on day maps and see how well that works

[south grotto]

They work just fine for me, sometimes I admit some clicks don't register on the menu but hey the game's still way better than what it used to be

[lone void]

I hate people having measuring contests with their PCs and shit like nobody cares get a job

[rocky kraken]

animations feel better at lower focv

[somber oxide]

I mean have you ever tried looking into the sun???!

[eager spire]

no it doesn't, not compared to Conquest on any other Battlefield games.

[rocky kraken]

fov maybe thats why

[eager spire]

I'm not talking about looking into the sun, i'm talking about looking out of a god damn window.

[lone void]

Contrast moment

[serene wolf]

Personal preference

[somber oxide]

winners win losers lose

[arctic grove]

Oh no, it works, it just annoys me when it hitches, or I get random frame drops or little visual glitches when I'm making changes. For a while the game wasn't even loading the graphics for guns in the menus, it seems to have been fixed since S2 launch however

[lone void]

Slep time

[eager spire]

So what, you think it's just fine that the team with the score advantage keeps scoring despite losing flag majority? You think that's how Conquest should work?

[lone void]

You know kills count

Right

[somber oxide]

they dont score as much, kills count as well

[lone void]

[hexed mango]

still happens to me on occasion, like the store items wont load

[serene wolf]

Honestly does winning or losing matter in battlefield? I’m just out here getting dopamine hits from the kill sound effects

[arctic grove]

yeah its not very often but definitely happens. I used to just restart the game when it happened before.

[rocky kraken]

season three predictions?

[hexed mango]

joe mama

[somber oxide]

its like getting out of the dark, its first really bright

[rocky kraken]

boins hot

[full burrow]

my portal screen was bugged for months and the icons for features gamemodes and such wouldnt load

[eager spire]

lemme look out my window right now. yep. i can see perfectly fine, despite being in a dark room.

[full burrow]

but they fixed it

[arctic grove]

other than the classes update, we'll get another new map, reworks for whatever original maps were left, maybe a couple more portal guns, some new base-game guns

[full burrow]

by removing the separte portal section

[arctic grove]

mostly just similar to what we got in S2

[somber oxide]

you dont get it

[eager spire]

You don't get it.

[rocky kraken]

i hope they put some detail into the class system

[hexed mango]

joe doesnt get it

[rocky kraken]

like multi roles for classes like bf5

[edgy oriole]

im officially retiring from 24/7 stranded servers. this fucking hit reg is on my breaking point

[eager spire]

they probably won't

[arctic grove]

Its not entirely clear how its gonna be, beyond that certain specialists will be put into their class categories and gadgets restricted as well

[hexed mango]

i mean

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community/battlefield-core-feedback-specialists

seems relatively clear

[arctic grove]

It probably won't be a massively fleshed out revamp

basically just menu changes, maybe some new icons, and then the restrictions, and thats it

[hexed mango]

new gadgets as well

[arctic grove]

well yeah the general idea behind it is clear

but there isn't much info about what else will come with these changes

[hexed mango]

at least we've seen new gadgets

[arctic grove]

and how much of a change it will actually be

[full burrow]

what are the new guys passives?

[hexed mango]

crawford?

[full burrow]

yeah

[hexed mango]

revive + resupply gadget

[rocky kraken]

ok but

[full burrow]

oh

[rocky kraken]

i watched a vid and this guy made a good point

[full burrow]

he puts the turret and revies?

[hexed mango]

yes

[rocky kraken]

all the specialists can fit in all the classes depending on play style

so like

[full burrow]

cool

[hexed mango]

you also get 3 gadgets now

[full burrow]

makes sense that hes support then

[hexed mango]

specialist gadget
class equipment
class gadget

[somber oxide]

Im not being serious with the last point tbh XD but i mean it like you get of the dark and you look in the bright outside but your eyes are not used to light so its first just really bright

[dapper river]

rip I thought this was the feedback results 💀

[arctic grove]

thats more down to the guns not being restricted, and they won't be after the class system gets introduced

[stiff pollen]

the class rework cant come soon enough

[hexed mango]

S3

[hexed mango]

bozo

[rocky kraken]

basically february

lol

[full burrow]

so grapple, c5, and ???

[stiff pollen]

having to manually select repair tool on my engis is annoying

[dapper river]

well you're gonna be waiting til November/December

[full burrow]

if im mackay

[stiff pollen]

thats fine

im already done with the pass

[hexed mango]

for assault, med pen

[stiff pollen]

i only gotta play weekly

[hexed mango]

bro what

[full burrow]

and then nades as well?

[hexed mango]

ye

[stiff pollen]

im bp level 53 and each week gives 49 points

meaning i only gotta play weekly

[hexed mango]

• specialist gadget

[full burrow]

oh

[eager spire]

Well i am.

[stiff pollen]

the amount of falcks using claymores is gonna peeve me off

to no end

shouldve even be a discussion adding in anti personnel mines

[rocky kraken]

wait

claymore coming?

[stiff pollen]

m18 claymore

[arctic grove]

Interesting that the EMP can be used by all classes except assault

[hexed mango]

ye

TUGS, tracer dart, claymore, javelin, eod

[stiff pollen]

i for real think they should come up with a new gadget for support isntead of giving em the claymore but whatever

[hexed mango]

also they're apparently replacing the throwable proxy with the gadget one from portal, and replacing the 2042 defib usage, with how it is in portal

[stiff pollen]

i forgot what the claymore is even like in portal, does it have tripwires like in bf4 or is it like cod's

[keen loom]

[full burrow]

umm will tracer dart gun keep lock thru flares?

[edgy oriole]

buy splatoon 3 NERD

[hexed mango]

no idea

[edgy oriole]

@hexed mango you too nerd

[full burrow]

cos if not then why that instead of soflam

[hexed mango]

nope

[edgy oriole]

LISTEN TO YOUR FATHER

[stiff pollen]

the question really is will recons even use the tracer dart

when they get soflam

[hexed mango]

never have, aint starting today

[full burrow]

thats what I fucking said

[rocky kraken]

wait so portal gadgets are going to aow?>

[full burrow]

,,,,,,,,,,,

[arctic grove]

oh the one with the lazors? I imagine its probably gonna be something like that, or some kind of modernised/futuristic design for it

[hexed mango]

basically

[stiff pollen]

yiiiiiiikes

i hate AP mines in games so much

[hexed mango]

yeah soflam makes tracer useless

but maybe itll have something useful

[full burrow]

unless they keep lock thru flares

just something I can think off

[stiff pollen]

technically yeah you can tracer an enemy infy and then rpg him

[arctic grove]

oh god

[full burrow]

soflam enemy spawn

tracer *

[hexed mango]

epic

[stiff pollen]

literally the class rebalance is great the only qualm i have is AP mines returning

[full burrow]

you mean claymores?

cos mines are in the game already

[stiff pollen]

anti personnel mines, yes

[arctic grove]

hmm so once we get to season 4 the classes are gonna be uneven a bit in terms of specialists, wonder if we might actually get 6 seasons so we at least get another 4 specialists rather than 2

[full burrow]

yh fair enough

[stiff pollen]

AP: anti personnel
AT: anti tank

[full burrow]

yh but theres armour piecing in the game too

[bronze steeple]

Lol i need my medpen as angel

[hexed mango]

where do you see AP Mines

claymore?

oh

[bronze steeple]

Who needs this system

[hexed mango]

i can read

claymores were in beta

so were tugs

[full burrow]

cant wait for c5 eod bots.....

[hexed mango]

fr

[rocky kraken]

i mean

tbh it wouldnt make sense to not go past season 4

they should try to max out potential

[stiff pollen]

it would because they promised 4 with the sale of the season pass

[arctic grove]

yep

[stiff pollen]

well get a blog post after s4 ends with "our vision of bf2042 is complete"

[rocky kraken]

i hope so

because i like the game

[bronze steeple]

Make next bf in 2025 keep 2042 for 3 more years

[rocky kraken]

just needs work

[hexed mango]

[full burrow]

yh but they already release fuck all and people are happy

[stiff pollen]

yada yada all hands on deck for bf2024-25 or some bs

[rocky kraken]

2042 can be a great game

[stiff pollen]

as per usual

[full burrow]

they can just do minimal content and call it new seasons

[hexed mango]

ea

[stiff pollen]

and then the trailer for it will come out and itll be amazing

and the game will flop

cycle continues

[hexed mango]

fr

[arctic grove]

sad truths

[stiff pollen]

this has happened like 3 games in a row from dice

theres only like 2 devs out there that are allowed to do this

[rocky kraken]

naw bro

they better not

[full burrow]

bf4 and bf1 with base game plus premium model was perfect

[hexed mango]

bf4 is mid

[jovial quest]

^

[full burrow]

I guess they didnt want to commit to early?

[stiff pollen]

remember, swbf2 flopped on launch cause MTX, bfv flopped, and then bf2042

3 games in a row

[hexed mango]

ez

yet dice fixed swbf2

[rocky kraken]

i actually prefer 2042 gun play over all battlefields

idk if others beleive that

[hexed mango]

same

[stiff pollen]

contractual obligations

[rocky kraken]

but

[stiff pollen]

disney told em to fix it and then EA lost the exclusivity cause of the backlash

[full burrow]

I think bfv was a lot to do with people didnt want another world war bf

a lot were already unhappy with ww1 setting

[stiff pollen]

or... the trailer sucked and the game was a weird mish mash of milsim and casual elements

[hexed mango]

or....... use optimism and think that they just wanted the game to like... succeed.

[copper fulcrum]

a lot were already unhappy with ww1 setting
That doesn't sound right

[arctic grove]

I put BFV's ahead of 2042, but they're generally pretty close, imo

[rocky kraken]

yea

[full burrow]

for bf1

[arctic grove]

LMAO BRO Disney would make a decent bf game tbh

[rocky kraken]

battlefield princess edition

[stiff pollen]

nah its 100% contractual obligations. Disney is fine when THEY fuck up star wars, but if anybody else does they bring in the lawyers

[hexed mango]

there wasnt a WW1 game before it tho, so i dunno why people woulda dislike it

[full burrow]

bf1 already disappointed a lot of people just because it wasnt modern

[hexed mango]

i dont want another WW game now

im fine with BF1 and BFV

[full burrow]

cos bf3 bc2 bf4 all same ish theme

I loved bf1

[rocky kraken]

anyone have the grenade throw animation glitch?

[arctic grove]

when there had already been plenty of modern setting games before that lol

[rocky kraken]

bug*

[hexed mango]

oh yeah major

[stiff pollen]

only other studio i know that has as bad as a track record as dice for releasing products is 343

[full burrow]

but I know people who literally say its not battlefield anymore just cos its set different

[stiff pollen]

but thats another can of worms

[full burrow]

ywH

yeah I hate it lol

[rocky kraken]

ok so

please no boat map season 3 dice

[hexed mango]

difference is 343 actually doesnt want games to succeed

[rocky kraken]

PLEASe

[full burrow]

weve been through this

[stiff pollen]

you can make the argument they both want their games to succeed but theres management thats not allowing it

[arctic grove]

why not?

[full burrow]

Season 3 map - a landslide has revealed a Russian ship full of containers

[rich flicker]

Anyone wanna stream snipe me tonight!

[hexed mango]

we need a joe map s3

[arctic grove]

some naval warfare in 2042 would be nice

[hexed mango]

nah

[full burrow]

noooo

dont confuse them

[rich flicker]

I'd love to get blown up 157 more times!

[keen loom]

[stiff pollen]

then again i dont recall any dice game being unplayable for 3 years

[arctic grove]

probably

[hexed mango]

would be epic

id boin

[rich flicker]

Bacon meh lord! Do it!

[smoky solstice]

operation locker with 128 players

[hexed mango]

i think either a forest map or a mountain/volcano would be epic

[rich flicker]

[arctic grove]

operation locker with shipping containers

[cosmic sequoia]

lol someone said a helicopter player was 31-0 and when he died he left the match... it's cuz he's not getting another helicopter for 10 minutes lolol

[keen loom]

Bet

[hexed mango]

who asked

[smoky solstice]

imagine lmao

[arctic grove]

ooh yeah

[cosmic sequoia]

I thought you did?

[hexed mango]

i never do

[cosmic sequoia]

oh

[rocky kraken]

ok but guys

why no tank carcass when destroyed?

its really odd

[hexed mango]

there is now

[cosmic sequoia]

tech isnt there yet

[rocky kraken]

no

[hexed mango]

we get fireworks now

[rocky kraken]

bruh

shit sucks

there needs to be tank carcass

[full burrow]

better than the fucking ram sititng there making noise for ages after its blown up

[cosmic sequoia]

frostbite 5 doesnt support that

[arctic grove]

a volcano would actually be a nice opportunity to introduce another form of climate change catastrophy, could have the volcano be active either as ambience or have a gameplay aspect

[hexed mango]

fb4

[cosmic sequoia]

thats a great idea

[hexed mango]

hence why i suggested that

[full burrow]

Ashy fog effect would be cool

[arctic grove]

they won't do it tho

[cosmic sequoia]

no your suggestion sucks

[arctic grove]

lol

[hexed mango]

this is true

[cosmic sequoia]

Lokis suggestion, just way better

[full burrow]

would be enough to change gameplay without having to go for realistic lava and shit

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

too much work, and they seem to love their tornado so much

[rocky kraken]

support what

[arctic grove]

it will just be another map with another tornado

[rocky kraken]

no but like we actually need more weather

it sucks

[hexed mango]

supports joe

[copper fulcrum]

I usually see a vehicle carcass when they blow up

[cosmic sequoia]

new engine only supports tornado

[full burrow]

A series of tornadoes have caused a landslide revealing a Russian ship full of containers

[cosmic sequoia]

so you get

tornado

yes

every map

must have tornado, shipping container and destroyed boat

[hexed mango]

and IN THOSE CONTAINERS, MORE CONTAINERS!

[cosmic sequoia]

(btw no boats in game)

[hexed mango]

loads of boats idk what you mean

[arctic grove]

perhaps the next engine iteration might manage a bit more variety then

[cosmic sequoia]

but no attack boats

boats

but no boats

[hexed mango]

rhib is attack?

[rocky kraken]

so they cant make new weather ?

[hexed mango]

they have tho

[sand osprey]

i just want thermal scopes

[cosmic sequoia]

no

[full burrow]

mav floats right

[hexed mango]

orbital and manifest

[cosmic sequoia]

in the apocalypse, there is only tornado

[hexed mango]

and the Hoverboat

[arctic grove]

sharknado

[sand osprey]

smoke is killing my game

[full burrow]

but hovercraft are fucking phsyco vehicles

[hexed mango]

• lightning and flood

[cosmic sequoia]

no

just tornado

[hexed mango]

yes.

[cosmic sequoia]

that go whoosh

[arctic grove]

haha

[full burrow]

omg I know

[arctic grove]

tornado go whoosh, specialists go bye bye

[cosmic sequoia]

will send you to oklahoma

no harm

no problem

[full burrow]

the map designers favourite film is the new mad max

[cosmic sequoia]

fr

[full burrow]

massive tornadoes

[cosmic sequoia]

shipping containers

drought

boat

tornado

"alright guys, let's run with it!"

what's wrong with kaledioscope?

no boats?

[keen loom]

Chopper crushed by container

You need boats in that map?

[hexed mango]

kaleido is great

[cosmic sequoia]

needs boats

[full burrow]

you should spawn boats in the fountains

[keen loom]

How does it need boats

[full burrow]

idk lol

[rocky kraken]

whats your guys' opinion on the balance of land vehciles now>

?

[full burrow]

but it really reminds me of a bf4 map

[hexed mango]

kaleido has like no water that's more than 1 foot deep

[full burrow]

Kaleido does

[hexed mango]

no idea, ive only been playing stranded lmao

[arctic grove]

they should put a boat sat atop the two towers on C, say it was carried there by a tornado

[cosmic sequoia]

need more attackc hoppers, jets in their own category, transport choppers (super hind) either needs to lose HP or the 50mm

[arctic grove]

now thats a story

[cosmic sequoia]

need more ground vehicles

for fuck sake

[hexed mango]

we're getting 1 in like 2 weeks

[full burrow]

we are?

[cosmic sequoia]

need AA cannons that are stationary in each sides base, like in bf3

[rocky kraken]

yea the polaris thing

[full burrow]

new vehicle?

[rocky kraken]

4x4

[full burrow]

oh

[rocky kraken]

isnt it a world spawn tho

[full burrow]

oh

[hexed mango]

with the nerfs, no to the AA

[full burrow]

oh yeah

more world spawn stuff is cool

im still given up on 128 tho

[rocky kraken]

true

[cosmic sequoia]

128 has so nmuch potential

[hexed mango]

128 is fun but i get no fps

[rocky kraken]

but like random machine gun posts would be cool

[hexed mango]

TDMXL

[arctic grove]

yeeeppp

[rocky kraken]

or the missile launchers

[cosmic sequoia]

i get great fps

[hexed mango]

i wasnt asking

[rocky kraken]

idk what they are called

[full burrow]

no brains have been put behind 128

[arctic grove]

128 players is a massive drag on performance

[cosmic sequoia]

the only thing is that the maps are too big lol

[full burrow]

it was just go meet that number

[rocky kraken]

discarded should be cut in half

idk how they are gonna rework that mess of a map

[cosmic sequoia]

almost every map needs to be cut in half

except the newer ones

[hexed mango]

Stranded needs a TDM map so i can play TDMXL on stranded

[cosmic sequoia]

the snow one isnt bad

[hexed mango]

what

[arctic grove]

the snow one is the biggest lmao

[cosmic sequoia]

in terms of flow

[hexed mango]

for Breakthrough, Breakaway isnt bad, but its a shiz map otherwise

[cosmic sequoia]

yeah but you still get good action

[edgy oriole]

bc your pc broken

[full burrow]

you mean the one that has a 2 minute zipline to get to E?

[hexed mango]

shut

[arctic grove]

🤣

[cosmic sequoia]

lol certain things could be changed