battlefield-2042

[upbeat sand]

FUUUUU

[violet meteor]

Yeah even the game thought that was ridiculous

[upbeat sand]

Dozer, vcar, spam flash rush

That game got my dozer mastery go up by 2 levels

[violet meteor]

It's very pleasing blowing up dozer with c5 or burning him alive

[hexed mango]

why are these the only items on the known issues thread

[eager spire]

There are definitely other known issues.

[hexed mango]

exactly

[storm jolt]

raw mouse input off disables game because anyone who turns that off is dum

[formal imp]

Raw mouse

[hexed mango]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/battlefield-2042-bug-reports-en

[eager spire]

not like it matters cause mouse input is still broken anyway

[violet meteor]

I enjoy raw mouse

[formal imp]

🤨

[hexed mango]

what you mean by that

[storm jolt]

how so

[proud gorge]

Anyone else controller having a issue

[upbeat sand]

Them having a bug reporter is better than just needing to rely on YouTubers saying oh yeah this is broken

[violet meteor]

I'm making cookies tonight

[proud gorge]

Where it just auto aims for no reason

[violet meteor]

And they won't be wet and shiny like Boinbius cookies

[proud gorge]

Even when not touching the turn button

[formal imp]

Stick drift maybe

[proud gorge]

It just auto aims on people I don’t see

Blew myself up 2 times cause if it last night

[proud gorge]

I don’t wanna get a new controller already it’s only 1 year old

[eager spire]

It just doesn't function properly, ask anyone who seriously play this and other games and they'll tell you that mouse input in this game feels incredibly off. Apparently there are issues with input in general, cause people here have talked about controller input not feeling good either.

[storm jolt]

i havent had any issue with my mouse

[formal imp]

You can try fixing it before getting a new one, some YouTube tutorials helped me

[upbeat sand]

Ima gonna go play 2042 on Nintendo switch joycons

[eager spire]

You're probably not able to tell.

[storm jolt]

mouse ingame functions like any other game

[eager spire]

no it doesn't.

[storm jolt]

show me

[eager spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tzUz0f12zE just watch this.

[hexed mango]

i play other games, i seriously dont see a difference in 2042

maybe its just me though

[violet meteor]

Need for speed Heat, granblue fantasy versus, and toem are the free games this month

Yeesh

[storm jolt]

same, i often switch from val/cs to 2042 and aim works just as well

no noticeable difference in mouse function

[proud gorge]

I think my PS5 controller has input problems

Cause I played vanguard and no stick drift

Only on 2042 why

[violet meteor]

Yeah 2042 I get stick drift

Otherwise nothing on other games

[proud gorge]

Dice moment

[violet meteor]

But a controller update came out today sooooo

Idk

[hexed mango]

i get stick drift on my rift s

[proud gorge]

True

[hexed mango]

but that's cause my rift s is fucked

[proud gorge]

I think the controller update might of fucked with a few things

[calm bison]

Man I love all this new content for Halo Infinite

https://cdn.britannica.com/10/152310-050-5A09D74A/Sand-dunes-Sahara-Morocco-Merzouga.jpg

[hexed mango]

oh you mean the new air

yeah the new air is now 0.000056% H2 instead of 0.000055%

343i thanks you for not giving a shit

[eager spire]

The issue has apparently been present since the beta, I've seen a video of the 2042 Beta where someone had set up a program that does exact 360 movements on the mouse, and it works perfectly on something like Kovaaks, but then they switch to 2042 and every time they do it the aim either ends up slightly behind where it should be, or slightly ahead of where it should be.

[storm jolt]

and have you noticed this yourself ingame

[hexed mango]

is this program open source or avaliable?

[calm bison]

How ironic that a game that utterly flopped in November 2021 ended up being the best of 3 by August 2022

[hexed mango]

because i would like to test it myself

[eager spire]

I don't know, to be honest, i can't find the video or i would've posted it

[hexed mango]

and not just take someone else's word for it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm jolt]

almost like every dice game sucks for the first year that its out.. remember the massive petitions against battlefront 2 and battlefront V

[violet meteor]

Yeah I'll be perfectly still in the wildcat, but when I aim the vehicle moves

[hexed mango]

and SWBF2 ended up being one of the best SW games as of late

[calm bison]

BFV is also pretty good

[hexed mango]

out done by JFO later but whatever

[calm bison]

Hey listen

[turbid lantern]

I still don't understand why people hated BFV, it worked great on launch

[calm bison]

JFO is a masterpiece

Leave it alone

[turbid lantern]

[hexed mango]

yeah i just said it was

[storm jolt]

214,883 signed petition to cancel battlefront 2

[hexed mango]

i said "[SWBF2 was] outdone by JFO" as in JFO was better

[violet meteor]

Petitions

[storm jolt]

shh

[violet meteor]

Those are funny things

[calm bison]

I remember when BFV was revealed the amount of hate that the trailer gathered was immense

Good lord

Like the trailer is truly awful

But the reaction was far worse

[copper fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZpQadiyqs

[turbid lantern]

The Rotterdam trailer was good tho

[hexed mango]

i cant wait for Jedi: Survivor to come out

im really fucking sad that Quantic Dream got bought, cause now i fear Eclipse is either not gonna happen, or gonna be ass

[upbeat sand]

Honestly I kinda liked it

[storm jolt]

im shocked at how many were surprised by the specialists in 2042 after all the hero stuff in bfv

[calm bison]

You can’t count on both of your hands how many people raged at BFV

[storm jolt]

bf1 had a really good trailer

[hexed mango]

so Jedi Survivor and whatever the "star wars fps" Respawn is working on are my only hopes for SW games now

[storm jolt]

battlefront 1 trailer was dope too

[calm bison]

Because only like 3 skins were “hero”

The rest were largely fine

You had

[turbid lantern]

Battlefield Heroes

[upbeat sand]

Dice said they were adding specialists as far as the first 2042 trailer and people only started complaining at game launch and the specialist overview

[hexed mango]

best game ever

[calm bison]

Discount Pete Mitchell
German Captain Crunch
And
Japanese commando that looks more Chinese than Japanese

[storm jolt]

dont forget one of the battlefront 2 characters is in 2042 portal

[upbeat sand]

I am Chinese and I deny this message as 1984

[calm bison]

Falck

[hexed mango]

what

[calm bison]

Falck is literally a first order officer in SWBF2

[upbeat sand]

Oh yeah I remember that

[storm jolt]

several characters actually

[hexed mango]

oh

i see

model is slightly different

[storm jolt]

bf3 support, bc2 medic,

[upbeat sand]

Also one of the bfv German caracters as well

[hexed mango]

but yeah same concept

[upbeat sand]

If it's not broken

Why get rid of it

[calm bison]

Hey listen

[hexed mango]

wtf

[calm bison]

They kept Gunter

That’s fine by me

[hexed mango]

i searched "battlfield V german female"

and the first image i see is some

[calm bison]

Oh no

[hexed mango]

not so

nice stuff

[upbeat sand]

Chaaaaad gunter

[upbeat sand]

You FORGOT TO TURN ON THE SAFE SEARCH

[eager spire]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPjnwtZ52aWKS5pWUBxFffD99IGCG61IQ I cannot find the video I was thinking of, but fortunately, it was shown as an example of the mouse input being broken in the Beta in another video, and that's what i've clipped here.

[storm jolt]

there has been countless things fixed since beta

[hexed mango]

@calm bison

[upbeat sand]

Remember the parachutes

[calm bison]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[calm bison]

What

[eager spire]

The mouse input wasn't one of them.

[calm bison]

I don’t remember this

[upbeat sand]

At launch I was really impressed at how the specialists face expression and animation was realistic

[next onyx]

The one thing I really do enjoy about specialists are their unique lines.

[calm bison]

Also

[hexed mango]

i love all the lines in this gamea

seems more keep getting added

they're nice

[calm bison]

Can we shoutout how DICE finally animated reload animations accurately for 3P view

It’s been like 3 games

[next onyx]

Can't say that I've been on the lookout for that.

[calm bison]

But it finally happened

[hexed mango]

traversal sprint still isnt accurate tho

[storm jolt]

do they know that controller input affects mouse input too cus of spaghetti code

[hexed mango]

in 3rd person

in 1st you hold it up, but in 3rd it sways all the way down

[eager spire]

Yes. That is also a problem.

[next onyx]

I do like how the third person animation for top loaded weapons on 5 like the BREN is a literally slam dunk.

[hexed mango]

compare the shadow to the 1st person animation

[upbeat sand]

Fastttt

[eager spire]

@storm jolt But yeah, like i said. talk to anyone that seriously plays 2042. Hell, even xQc noticed it. Even Mr. Winston Main on Overwatch noticed that the mouse input in 2042 was off.

[hexed mango]

i seriously play 2042

"not yet mate" - crawford

[storm jolt]

i play it often too and havent noticed anything

[eager spire]

Okay, lemme rephrase, talk to anyone that plays games at a pro level that's played 2042.

[hexed mango]

shade

[eager spire]

Yes.

[hexed mango]

you dont know me... what if i was xQc

[eager spire]

That'd be funny.

because i know you're not.

[hexed mango]

what proof

[storm jolt]

he cant be xqc because i'm xqc

[hexed mango]

no im xqc

[eager spire]

because he said something doesn't feel right with the mouse on stream.

[copper fulcrum]

No, I'm xqc

[hexed mango]

what if i was his stream

[storm jolt]

we are his stream

[proud gorge]

Ravic Silk

Forgor the other one

M someone

Mox?

Forgor

[hexed mango]

mox deez nutz

angel get ingame

[lilac dust]

Why does the BF3 Gun Master portal featured mode have a picture of the AK-24 as the title image lmao

[eager spire]

isn't Ravic part of the EA Creators program, and Silk is a heli main.

[upbeat sand]

how to stop game audio stuttering when recording 2042

[hexed mango]

get better recording software

what do you use

[upbeat sand]

using medal

[hexed mango]

ok i have no idea how to use medal so i cant actually help, all ill say is microsoft game bar works fine for me

[proud gorge]

Ravic Silk and Maxiq

[upbeat sand]

game bar it is

[next onyx]

The funniest part about seeing your shadow with the p50 is seeing the top of it on a hinge pushed it.

[hexed mango]

wdym

hinge pushed it

[next onyx]

Err I worded it badly.

[lilac dust]

Exodus conquest replacing stranded conquest is a crime

[next onyx]

I mean as it's hanging in same way in the pic.

[proud gorge]

P50 seems very strong for a gun that does 20 dmg

[hexed mango]

Ah

[hexed mango]

stranded is best on bt, so i just play stranded bt

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm not the best in wording things.

I feel as if Stranded plays better on conquest honestly.

[upbeat sand]

the hell happened to my game bar

[arctic grove]

@proud gorge Hop on BF

[upbeat sand]

the only thing that shows up is record
no pc specs
no other games

[arctic grove]

im stuck in Queue

[hexed mango]

you have to open them

[proud gorge]

[hexed mango]

use that menu

[upbeat sand]

not there
maybe its cause i did clean install of windows

[hexed mango]

i got played so hard while trying to play someone else

[turbid lantern]

Not sure why but i hit moving targets so much better than standing target

[upbeat sand]

just shoot em

[turbid lantern]

Like when they stand still and it should be easy kills, i fucking miss

[next onyx]

HAHAHA.

[violet meteor]

Always assume there is someone on that specific spot

Because there always is

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014304441660358696/1017292211785846824/BattlefieldTM_2042_2022-09-07_21-35-22.mp4

[violet meteor]

Ok

[granite island]

I hope they add a cooking grenade feature

It takes like 4 seconds for a grenade to explode after thrown

[thick robin]

I love the BSV-M

[hexed mango]

im 99% certain you can

idk

feels faster, but i dont think it is

[granite island]

They are both 6 seconds

[hexed mango]

well its 3 seconds once its thrown

[bronze stirrup]

Just give us an impact nade

[granite island]

Make the impact nade do 70hp

[bronze stirrup]

I'd use it

[violet meteor]

Yeah that's the only nade I used in 4

For obvious reasons

[bronze stirrup]

idk m67s are kinda nasty in 4

[violet meteor]

Alright

[bronze stirrup]

I never used the impact nade much cus the radius

[eager spire]

You only ever use the impact nade when you're shooting someone and they have the audacity to round a corner away from you.

[granite island]

Would it be balanced

If the Impact nade has less explosion radius

But for more damage

[copper fulcrum]

Here I go taking the mod out of context again

[bronze stirrup]

That's pretty much how it was in 4 iirc like if you hit dead on it was a kill

[eager spire]

@granite island the fact that it blows up on impact is enough of a benefit compared to a regular nade.

you don't have to account for the time it takes for the nade to go off if it just goes off immediately.

You don't need extra damage.

[bronze stirrup]

It was such a tiny radius though

[granite island]

Can we have claymores in season 3

[bronze stirrup]

Sometimes they could still just get enough out of range it wouldn't finish

[eager spire]

well that's just unfortunate then

[violet meteor]

Claymore on stranded

Oof

[hexed mango]

@next onyx you'll like this

[next onyx]

NICE.

[violet meteor]

RETURN TO THE COMBAT AREA

[next onyx]

Get rid of the suppressor on the p50 by the way.

[hexed mango]

such fun

[hexed mango]

oh?

[next onyx]

It messes up your damage model.

Turns it into a 6HK.

[violet meteor]

You left the main force boinbius, turn around lol

[hexed mango]

use champ and reg instead?

[next onyx]

Yeah use the warhawk compensator.

[hexed mango]

oo

[next onyx]

You're not going to be using it at a long range anyways so the accuracy decrease is whatever.

More control will help more.

[hexed mango]

understood

[violet meteor]

Aw

You two

I've got some real questionable line of sight deaths that I just don't understand

[hexed mango]

a kill is a kill

[violet meteor]

I got a 6 kill today then a dozer patted me on the back too hard and I died

It's like I can't get 2 seconds to celebrate

Also idk how to share clips other than YouTube videos

[upbeat sand]

Play dozer yourself and dozer battle

[violet meteor]

Gross

[upbeat sand]

They made it so if there are 2 dozers who ever is closer can melee though the sheild

[violet meteor]

Gross gross

[upbeat sand]

Dozer gaming

Only if I had recorded when I got a 6 kill streak as dozer flanking

[violet meteor]

I just get these little wins and save the last 15 seconds

[hexed mango]

same

i record a fuck ton

[upbeat sand]

Remember when Jessie breaking bad appeared in an Xbox ad playing titanfall

[violet meteor]

That's my YouTube vids are. Little 30 second clips lol

[hexed mango]

its a fun frag grind there

[turbid lantern]

I usually go on the top of the ship and just shoot grenades down there

Inside the ship the M320 LVG is strong

Have gotten some 6 multikills there

[lilac dust]

The m320 LVG is strong full stop

[turbid lantern]

Got like 68 kills one time with it

But i couldn't say it insanely op, it works good with people who camp really dumb

Have killed myself many times with it tho

I am so good with it, i even kill myself

[hexed mango]

i think i got him

[upbeat sand]

Should I use without raw mouse input or yes

[hexed mango]

i believe on makes more sense but idk

[vast cloak]

I think on is preferred tbh

[arctic grove]

@proud gorge GGs gonna head to bed

[hexed mango]

same

[violet meteor]

My girlfriend made guacamole then took some costco rotisserie chicken and cut it up to mix in

[arctic grove]

yum

[storm jolt]

at what point do I get to embed things here

[bronze stirrup]

People get so tilted when you pull out the lvg lol

Said fuck it and started spamming down on last obj of stranded BT then like so many people switched to sniper trying to kill me

[keen loom]

Server boosting or being a regular

[rocky kraken]

They added more end of round voice lines

[keen loom]

[bronze stirrup]

How long it takes to get the regular role idk

Cus I've been active again for like almost a month

[storm jolt]

you almost have 3k messages lol

[bronze stirrup]

Yeah with that many you'd think I'd have it but idk

[unkempt tartan]

gang

wtv

[quiet shell]

Isn't the Avancys based on the new machine gun the US Army adopted?

[undone bone]

No, it's based off of the FN Evolys. The new machine gun the army will be using is the counterpart to the XM5 (An adapted version of the Sig MCX, the gun the M5A3 is based on). Which is the XM250, similar to the XM5, a military design of the SIG-LMG.

[bronze stirrup]

The Evolys was in consideration but yeah they're going to make the XM250 the normal

[tame cobalt]

Turns out the closest thing to chauchat in 2042 is bsvm with high power extended mag

[edgy oriole]

He killed you and you switched to mcdaddy huh

[vast cloak]

No you didn’t. Still had rounds left over😤

[tame cobalt]

And had to use the avancys to do it

Smellin like a
Skill
Issue

[keen loom]

[copper fulcrum]

The salt.

[edgy oriole]

Modern problem require modern solutions

[keen loom]

[quaint wigeon]

i wonder who the crack addict was that saw the borders for stranded breakthru and said "yeah looks good"

[copper fulcrum]

It was me, Barry.

[quaint wigeon]

like why didnt they play test this shit

[bronze stirrup]

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042

[scenic tartan]

The 40mm flak on the wildcat is so dumb

went 45-1 earlier with it just sitting back and spamming points

[vast cloak]

just got randomly kicked out of a game again. internet is fine. this has been happening to me for the past 2 days

[vast cloak]

you mean the 60mm flak pod?

[scenic tartan]

yea

it fires way too fast

and splash is huge

it kills TV missiles too

[fiery dawn]

Wow they already buffed the AM40 and it feels SO good

[white geyser]

That's why I like the 60mm flak pod, but I still need that tv missile for the wildcat

[fiery dawn]

I'm in love

I can't imagine how good this weapon must feel after you've already T1'd it all the way when it wasn't as good lmao

[dark sapphire]

Activision make bf

[quaint wigeon]

yeah im working on it rn to get t1 and didnt find it as horrible as ppl were saying it was

[west raft]

The worst timeline

[dark sapphire]

The best 🗿

[vast cloak]

IF YOU PLAY BREAKTHROUGH AND YOURE DEFENDING. FIGHT ON OR INFRONT OF THE POINT. NOT BEHIND IT. you will win a lot more defense rounds if you take my advice

[crisp seal]

Any French over here?

[west raft]

But how will I possibly get my t1 sws on stranded by playing so close to the people with guns 😢

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[vast cloak]

cheeky little spot i didnt know about until this clip

hmmm

[dark sapphire]

African 💪🗿

[dark sapphire]

Think about it bf mw 2

[west raft]

Did u see the one on the containers overlooking c point on bt

[keen loom]

Two words that should never be put together

[vast cloak]

i hate this new video shit

[dark sapphire]

Bf balck ops sounds epic

[vast cloak]

have to download a third party software to edit videos you record with nvidia

[keen loom]

Nope

[west raft]

Bf advanced warfare

[dark sapphire]

Epic

Bf infinite warfare 🗿

[dark sapphire]

Dice not doin good job 🗿

[keen loom]

And COD will make it good how? Different game’s different topic moving on

[dark sapphire]

Ight 🗿

[keen loom]

[west raft]

Gross

Disgusting even

[keen loom]

Thanks for showing that secret

[vast cloak]

lol

what secret

[keen loom]

Sus

[vast cloak]

[arctic grove]

Getting my new series X this week, will be able to get back on 2042

Genuinely can't wait.

I've heard the game has massively improved so I'm looking forward to seeing how much it's improved

[fiery dawn]

Yeah but it was extremely underwhelming as an assault rifle class weapon. I would've taken any of the other options over it before. Now, it's amazing I love it

[quaint wigeon]

yeah i think i saw u guys discuss that a few nights ago someone even said "its the worst of both worlds" lol

[oblique nest]

break through anyone?

im in squad 1

[raw glacier]

Can we PLEASE get a feature to make it where people cant spawn on us? I literally want to stealthy snipe and a guy just spawns in unsupressed and starts blazing people is so damn annoying

[vast cloak]

for fuck sakes nerf the shit out of the 12m auto shotty already please!

[fiery dawn]

lol yah. it wasn't bad at really close range but then why not take an MP9 or K30 or something

[vast cloak]

nerfing every other weapon in the game yet doesnt nerf the 12m auto shitty

[fiery dawn]

no u were right before the edit

lul

[vast cloak]

lol

[fiery dawn]

that shotty is busted af

[quaint wigeon]

is the slugs rounds on it still busted?

[vast cloak]

just lefta game of stranded BT cuz a dude literally got me to 20hp from across the map with it

so fucking tired of that weapon

[fiery dawn]

yes slugs are still busted

[vast cloak]

but they want to nerf the k30

absolute clowns

[fiery dawn]

also i find it quite goofy that dice buffed the AM40 turbo fast but failed to fix the broken standard issue mag capacity like ???

[vast cloak]

thats putting it nicely 🙂

[eager spire]

i don't know how they could realistically balance that thing

[fiery dawn]

they are a bunch of incompetent clowns

[vast cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-the-trash-out-courtney-marie-andrews-courtney-marie-andrews-channel-irene-chores-gif-18438050

[fiery dawn]

respectfully 🙂

[eager spire]

i mean they already lowered the SMG headshot multiplier for the sake of balancing that thing.

[vast cloak]

what thing

[eager spire]

The K30

[fiery dawn]

leave smgs alone

[chilly jacinth]

isnt the standard mag supposed to only have 20 rounds

[fiery dawn]

no

[quaint wigeon]

no

[fiery dawn]

it says 30 in the description

[chilly jacinth]

no shit

[vast cloak]

k30 was fine. its the fucking shotguns that need hard nerfed

[fiery dawn]

most ARs have 30 in the standard issue mags also

[chilly jacinth]

i thought it was intentional

[tame cobalt]

Don't nerf auto shotty buckshot and fletchettes

[fiery dawn]

just the 12m though, MCS sucks doggy doodoo (which is fine by me lmao)

[chilly jacinth]

since the drum also has 10 less rounds

[vast cloak]

12m auto needs to be just as shitty if not worse

[tame cobalt]

Yall crying about shotguns?

[fiery dawn]

ill just be happy if the 12m is only useful in cqb

like it's supposed to be

[vast cloak]

facts

[eager spire]

Yeah. Though, I will say, changing the SMG headshot multiplier could've been justified, but making it 1.25x? Stupid. Should've been 1.5x, so headshots are at least justified.

[tame cobalt]

12m buckshot and fletchette are perfect

[eager spire]

But no, according to DICE you're not supposed to be accurate with SMG's.

[fiery dawn]

yeah idk i find it weird that there's no standard extended with 40 rounds and then the drums with 50 since that's pretty normal

[vast cloak]

another day i stop playing this game cuz of that fucking auto shotty

oh and the spawns

[quaint wigeon]

i was astounded when they basically said "were not rewarding you for being accurate"

awesome

[tame cobalt]

Skill issue

[fiery dawn]

yeah dumbest logic ever

[vast cloak]

def not a skill issue

[fiery dawn]

12m is broken

everyone knows it

there's no debate to be had

[tame cobalt]

As long as the6 don't nerf the 12m buck and fletch idc

[chilly jacinth]

dont you love getting one tapped by the 12m

[eager spire]

"We think making headshots not even worth going for on SMG's fits their role. Stop trying so hard."

[arctic grove]

bro whenever i use it and shoot point blank it takes like 5 shots to kill a person

[fiery dawn]

12m short barrel needs slight ROF nerf and slugs need damage dropoff at range because why the fuck that doesn't exist is beyond me

[vast cloak]

the man who says "skill issue" is a 12m auto crutch user lol

[arctic grove]

LMAO

bet

[tame cobalt]

It's fucking fun, cry about it

[eager spire]

Also, a note about the 12M, apparently it has no firerate cap in Semi Auto

[tame cobalt]

You don't want people to have cqc options? Now that's a sad opinion

[chilly jacinth]

since when

[eager spire]

you already had them, it's called the SMG's

[vast cloak]

ik ive used it. ik its fun. still doesnt take away from the fact that its the most busted gun in the game rn

[lilac dust]

I did feel like firing in full auto put me at a disadvantage tbh

[fiery dawn]

I know that in full auto, if you spam fire it fires way faster than if you hold down the trigger if that's what you're referring to

[quaint wigeon]

just got kicked out of a game as i was about to defend thats a sign from God

[chilly jacinth]

BSVM and Sfar are still busted

[fiery dawn]

[tame cobalt]

Shotguns and crossbow add variety.

[eager spire]

I was told that it just fires as quickly as you can click in semi auto

[fiery dawn]

crossbow is a gimmick weapon lol

[arctic grove]

[fiery dawn]

pretty sure that's true yeah

[eager spire]

yeah, that would be quite busted

[vast cloak]

anyone use the aek yet?

[fiery dawn]

portal succ

i want more AOW content

[chilly jacinth]

there's most certainly a fire rate cap on it

[tame cobalt]

What does that even mean? It can be super effective.

[vast cloak]

i really hope the aek gets brought to AOW servers

[tame cobalt]

And it's very fun.

Limiting cqc options to just SMGs is a horrible idea

[full burrow]

invalid game state wtf

ok now loading

[fiery dawn]

Since when is anyone saying remove shotguns? Did I miss something?

[eager spire]

can't really argue that, but to say there would be no CQC options without them is a stupid statement.

[fiery dawn]

deep breaths deep breaths

also the crossbow is more of a marksman weapon idk why we're discussing it within the realm of cqb

just because it can one shot to the chest up close doesn't make it a cqb weapon, it's a single shot weapon with a long reload

[tame cobalt]

There would be no cqc VARIETY.

Just SMGs.

[fiery dawn]

no one said remove shotguns or make them unusable in cqb

was literally saying that they should be usable in cqb only

the 12m is devastating even from range because of slugs

[eager spire]

you know that one bit in the simpsons where homer imagines a world without lawyers?

also, you did say cqc options

[minor ferry]

12 auto has a bug that is almost broken as LVG

the semi auto RPM is much higher than the full auto

[violet meteor]

Avancys ruination

All the way

[turbid lantern]

Avancys doesn't feel like a lmg at all

[quaint wigeon]

yeah it feels like a death machine

[errant scarab]

This game need 3090 ti for decent fps

[next onyx]

Nah. Just a 5800x3d.

[full burrow]

scar underbarrel been buggy lately

silent shots

[scenic tartan]

imagine if the next battlefield is like battlefield 3042 and its post apocalyptic and all the vehicles are like mad max and fallout weapons type style

40 watt range plasma rifle

[full burrow]

you do not give a baby a 40oz steak and tell it to chew

[quaint wigeon]

yeah ill just play halo

[white geyser]

Since they made BF 2142 why not make BF 2242? if they decide to develop it

[full burrow]

lets not complicate their minds with futuristic thought

[white geyser]

BF 2242 different vehicles than 2142, weapons and other we want to see

[full burrow]

let them make a bf game thats very similar to their existing experience

[violet otter]

I think people want a true sequel to BF4 that is actually better

[eager spire]

i mean i'd imagine most people would just take a good Battlefield game at this point

[lilac dust]

God I hate using smokes in small areas. I may aswell just not even push in cos the enemy just sprays the smoke and insta kills you

[eager spire]

then don't

[full burrow]

to be fair nothing wrong with spraying smoke

[lilac dust]

God I hate stubbing my toe. It just hurts

[white geyser]

BF4 set in 2020, make a sequel for BF4 that's set in 2028

[full burrow]

I do like how you can take out liz rockets and such while they are flying

if I get a minigun seat I always try to to take them out

coffee is being consumed, I can try bf now!

[upbeat sand]

Let me put Crawford's turret on a casper drone

[rapid timber]

lol imagine

Is there anything special about the VCAR marksman rifle?

when i first started i though it was an smg lol

[upbeat sand]

Semi auto dmr for close range

It's like a super pistol

[full burrow]

its special alright

that kinda special you know

[upbeat sand]

When you think about it it's a direct upgrade from the mp28 in every way other than reload time

[upbeat sand]

Fun gun and since it's a dmr if you use it in close range headshot damage is really something

[quaint wigeon]

the vcar fucks

[rapid timber]

Lol

[upbeat sand]

It requires you to have a good trigger finger also

[eager spire]

it smol

[quaint wigeon]

it does stutter for me tho

[upbeat sand]

Unless if you use the coward's way out with a macro then

I have no respect for you

[full burrow]

oh wtf

[rapid timber]

You know from all the BF games i've played the one thing i've never learned to do is fly things any time i occasionally try brings it right into the dirt

[full burrow]

twice not I cant right click

in like less than 5 minutes

[upbeat sand]

2042 is the on,y game we're I genuinely like flying

Since it's a bit more simple to understand

And bfv, I cannot fly for my life and since all the plane's names are what they actually are instead of what they do I get a bit confused

[eager spire]

yeah it's a lot more simple to understand, which means there's less of a skill gap which means it's not that interesting.

Like there's entire dedicated communities for pilots in BF4.

Someone who's been flying an attack heli for 1700 hours in BF4 is fucking terrifying.

[upbeat sand]

Bf4's vehicle mains are way to sweaty for me,

[lilac dust]

720 kills with the PF51 now 😎 over half way to tier 1

[eager spire]

they kind of have to be, there's a lot of effort that goes into playing those vehicles well.

you take away that effort and there's just...nothing

[upbeat sand]

All you need to know in 2042 is

How to flare
How to lock
How to shoot
How to not crash
And how to tbag mid air when you destory a overly confident little bird who gets too close

And never go to the enemy spawn in Caspian border

[full burrow]

wow

dumb fucking game

I keep being locked out of right clicking

[eager spire]

i donno i appreciate that it does indeed take a lot of effort to get really good at playing with vehicles in BF4. You can't just get in an attack heli and learn everything there is to do in a few hours, you gotta try and learn how to play with it effectively.

[upbeat sand]

Just to say

Bullets when you get the underbarrel vehicle glitch your grenade launcher still does damage

[eager spire]

That's that kinda thing that forms communities and keeps people playing the game.

[next onyx]

It's one thing to not crash but it's another thing to survive in a fight.

[upbeat sand]

How to not piss off the entire enemy team before they all going AA and rao

[full burrow]

well for one there doesnt even need to be a vehicle or death involved anymore

its getting more frequent

and I can shoot but I cant aim

[tame cobalt]

Is mcs shotty viable yet

[rapid timber]

heli's are exactly why i play rao

[high mantle]

I can't fly for shit in most Battlefields but I live for the gunner seat

[lilac dust]

After 84 years. I have unlocked the Avansys

[violet meteor]

It's just.....the avancys

It's so wonderful

And I have the ruination skin, and a beautiful setup

All these rounds

I don't want to use any other weapon

[upbeat sand]

to me i say yes

spraying someone with a bunch of pellets<1 chonk of pellets

[visual horizon]

auto-shotty, my beloved

[pine roost]

Totalfps responded to a post about the heli auto rotation, it might actually get fixed! :D

[tame cobalt]

Looking at some weapon stats for different bfs, it seems like bf4 and 2042 have similar TTK, but bf4 obviously has way more spread, so TTK at range is effectively lower... BFV has similar low spread as 2042, but damage drops off more over range

[eager spire]

BFV also has random recoil

[full burrow]

2042 I dont understand somehow how quickly I can get beemed by a smg at good range

[tame cobalt]

Conclusion: 2042 stands out in letting player beam enemies at longer ranges

[eager spire]

considering the increased playercount and the size of the maps, this is not terribly surprising

[tame cobalt]

[pine roost]

Despite my gripes about the game, one thing I will say is that the recoil, spread and overall consistency of shooting feels great in this game

[tame cobalt]

ye it's pretty nice

[pine roost]

And the way the the gun actually recoils in your view model means the enemy is almost never obstructed

Which is something I experienced a lot when going back to bf4

So you had to rely entirely on screen centre estimation

[eager spire]

Yeah, your bullets go to the center of the screen literally all of the time.

I didn't find this to be an issue.

[bronze stirrup]

There was a lot of visual recoil in BF4

and a lot of spread

no heavy accuracy builds in this game

[eager spire]

Not really, visual recoil was removed from BF4 after an update.

[bronze stirrup]

Or wait yeah

[eager spire]

Also, spread is largely mitigated by stubby grip/hbar. Or just Stubby grip. It depends on the gun you're using.

[royal osprey]

Gunplay in 2042 also needed a post launch fix.

[tame cobalt]

Bf4 and bfv have less long range beaming compared to 2042, but in different ways.. bf4 by having more spread, and bfv by having less damage at range just based on some quick skimming of stats tho, I'm probably way oversimplifying it, or wrong

[bronze stirrup]

Accuracy was a bigger deal in 4 yeah

[pine roost]

It was probably just the sight I was using, it moved around a lot more compared to sights in 2042

[eager spire]

Some guns are more suited to long range engagements than others in BF4

Basically as i understand it there are 3 types of guns in BF4.

[bronze stirrup]

Everything in 2042 more or less shoots straight

[eager spire]

You got the close range guns, carbines, PDW's, FAMAS, AEK, Shotguns

The Medium range/all rounders like the ACE23, M416, and F2000

And the long range guys like the L85, ARX, CZ805

[tame cobalt]

[bronze stirrup]

Beaming people with the ARX was fun

[eager spire]

Of course that's not an exhaustive list but you get the point

[bronze stirrup]

I want that gun in 2042 tbh

[eager spire]

I think BF4's guns were all well balanced in those categories, though Shotguns can fuck that up because they can oneshot out to medium range. It's inconsistent but it does happen.

[bronze stirrup]

Shotguns just honestly felt not great to use paired with how clunky the movement in the game was

Even when the saiga was like at it's peak it just felt sluggish running around with shotguns

[eager spire]

BF4's movement is a lot more fluid on PC, like, if you watch footage of good PC BF4 players, it's a way different game compared to console.

[pine roost]

The air strafe just felt so good

[bronze stirrup]

Did PC get updates further than console?

[eager spire]

yeah, air strafing was fun, i liked that you slid a little bit when you landed a jump while holding no movement keys

[eager spire]

No i don't think so

[pine roost]

I remember when I found that out, it completely changed the way I played

[turbid lantern]

It's probably fps difference tho

[eager spire]

Yeah, probably

i've seen people running BF4 at like 500 FPS.

crazy.

[bronze stirrup]

The movement just feels so flat idk

[pine roost]

The frames man, it’s too much

[bronze stirrup]

But it is a more flat game in design

[eager spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha-AJsTUPkA I'mma just link this for reference for PC BF4

[bronze stirrup]

Never really was a whole lot of verticality in 4 maps

[eager spire]

This is highlights from 8v8 competitive matches.

[bronze stirrup]

besides a few

[turbid lantern]

The frames on some point won't matter imo much, after 120 it's just meh, atleast for me

[eager spire]

which is probably a good thing because the maps that do have verticality are not that great in my opinion

[bronze stirrup]

I think it makes things a little less repetitive in terms of like flow but I can understand liking flatter maps too

[pine roost]

Nickel was a huge inspiration to me, watching him way back when made me want to improve at the game

[eager spire]

Like, verticality in BF4 maps was mostly like "here's a tall building, here's elevators"

[bronze stirrup]

Yeah in 4 it wasn't very well done lol

[eager spire]

or stairs. I don't mind stairs that much, especially if the building only has like 2 floors, but maps like Pearl Market, fuck that.

[bronze stirrup]

I loved pearl market tbh

cqc dreamland

[eager spire]

yeah I do appreciate Nickel's stuff. I appreciated his commentary on BF1, felt it talked about stuff that mattered more than most others did.

[pine roost]

Yeah I remember that

[eager spire]

He didn't even play BFV much at all.

And i believe he was on a podcast talking about 2042, i've not listened to it, but he hasn't uploaded anything on that game either.

[bronze stirrup]

I played V way more than I should've considering how much I really dislike the game.

[pine roost]

He played the open beta and made a highlight reel on it

[eager spire]

well yeah outside of the open beta he hasn't done anything on it

[pine roost]

But that was the extent of it. He went back to bf4 but hasn’t uploaded for 5 months

[eager spire]

Considering the state of FPS games, i'm not surprised

[pine roost]

I hope he’s doing fine

[eager spire]

He probably doesn't have a lot to do at this point

https://twitter.com/NickelBF/status/1536074616363536387/photo/1 This was the last thing he posted to Twitter.

[bronze stirrup]

I haven't seen many creators come back to 2042 besides Jack

[eager spire]

Yeah, that's probably due to the game's quality. Jack's probably getting paid.

also that being said apparently Nickel is a gameplay designer on Warsaw Revamped.

So that's good for him

[bronze stirrup]

Everyone else moved on to playing Warzone or Squad and whatnot

[pine roost]

I’ve seen a few replies by him to various clips and other posts on Twitter, but yeah it’s been a while since he’s been really active

[eager spire]

I've seen him in twitch chats of a streamer i watch on occasion.

[pine roost]

I remember him replying to Markus’ post about aircraft design, he directed him towards GhostGaming and Hieb for more feedback, which was nice

[eager spire]

i've heard of Hieb, i don't watch him much, though. I don't really watch vehicle gameplay much on youtube.

I also see him on twitch.

[pine roost]

I watch a lot of Ghost, have done for about 3 years at this point, but admittedly not much of Hieb either

[eager spire]

Like, in terms of Battlefield youtubers, I've only ever watched TheRocksCrack, Enders, and occasionally FocusBF.

[tame cobalt]

Enders 🤢

[pine roost]

Yeah I started watching enders after bfV lost its future content, other than that there were quite a few I’d watch consistently

[upbeat sand]

screw that

old bf4 level cap videos

[eager spire]

eh

[pine roost]

Focus, ghost, silk, nickel of course

[eager spire]

LevelCap kinda fell off

[tawny carbon]

What DPI and sensitivity you guys run? I run 3200 DPI and 92 in game sensitivity

[pine roost]

30cm/360

[tawny carbon]

Sheesh I’m at 1 cm/360

[eager spire]

800 DPI, I'm assuming you're asking for 2042 sens, which is N/A for me

I don't have a cm/360 measurement because i've never bothered to measure that

[pine roost]

I just let aim lab tell me

[tawny carbon]

You can look up your cm/360

[eager spire]

BF4/BF1 i typically run about 17% on sens

[tame cobalt]

Enders is just annoying, i wish i could block his channel so it never shows up in recommended or searches

[eager spire]

I don't mind him.

[tawny carbon]

Enders is a nice YouTuber, he is straight forward about the game

[tame cobalt]

[tawny carbon]

That man plays the game everyday

[eager spire]

He also streamed BFV every day during it's life

[tawny carbon]

That man is a battlefield fanatic frfr

[tame cobalt]

why tho, he seems to hate it

[pine roost]

800 dpi at 17%?

[eager spire]

Like, sure he gets really pissed but honestly, playing BFV for that long in row, i can't blame him

[pine roost]

That’s pretty fast

[eager spire]

He's a content creator, that's literally his job

[tame cobalt]

then maybe he shouldn't do it

[eager spire]

That's how he makes money.

[upbeat sand]

i used to play at 1550 with 40+ sens

[tame cobalt]

making money from playing games you hate

[eager spire]

and despite his complaints, he also happens to be very good at the games he plays.

[pine roost]

If he switches off he’s lost viewership, therefore money

[tawny carbon]

Meh, not really…

[tame cobalt]

Good

[pine roost]

I just love watching his vids and streams cause I can learn so much from doing so

[tawny carbon]

R6S pro streamers and players hate R6S and same with COD players, they still play the game

[mental delta]

In France there's a guy who publishes 2 or 3 videos each day and everyday on GTAV since at least 2015

[eager spire]

I think playing a game professionally, you will inevitably develop some form of hatred for it

[tawny carbon]

Basically

[mental delta]

Like the guy plays GTAV every fucking day since 2015, idk how the guy can be still mentally sane

[tame cobalt]

He could be sensible like jackfrags and play what he wants to

[eager spire]

christ

[tame cobalt]

Even when some fools hate on jackfrags for playing what he wants to

It doesn't matter

[mental delta]

I still don't get why this fucker does that, the guy is probably crazy lmao

[tawny carbon]

Frfr, I still don’t understand that it’s just repetitive over and over again like cod every game but they still play it even tho they dislike it

[eager spire]

Okay, but Battlefield is his main field. That's what people know him for. He's definitely looking at playing other games, but he can't just sit idly and wait for other games to come out. He has to stream something, and that thing happens to be 2042.

[tame cobalt]

[mental delta]

Yeah the repetitive aspect is what makes that shit crazy, how can you not get bored of playing the same game over and over, you have to be either really dumb or really crazy

[tawny carbon]

I played destiny 2 since day one and till now, I dislike it here and there but I still play it till this day, I just enjoy the game itself tbh

[eager spire]

It's not as simple as just "play a different game 4head"

[mental delta]

Buying multiple games from the same franchise is on cause games change over the years but playing the same open-world game for multiple years while map almost never changes looks horrible ngl

[tawny carbon]

Cod is nice but if you think about it same thing every game but different look and devs that’s all and they make millions

People still play it still to today and enjoy it even though they dislike it

[quaint wigeon]

my team gives up sector B then absolutely chokes like we were playing so well up until sector C then they just went brain dead

amazing

[pine roost]

That just how it works out sometimes

[eager spire]

don't be sad :)

Would be funny if that line was in game as a taunt or something

[tawny carbon]

I had a team on breakthrough on stranded, held first sector the whole game and the following game they couldn’t break through objectives till the last 25 tickets left and that was over and over again till we won as attackers

[eager spire]

imagine dying to someone and they're just like "Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes." over your body

[tawny carbon]

“Angel back at it again”

[upbeat sand]

that prob would happen from an amercian in real life

[eager spire]

probably

Are voice taunts even in 2042?

[pine roost]

Not yet

[tawny carbon]

Was, they are re working voice lines for every specialist

[eager spire]

would be funny if every specialist had a voice line that just said "Easy."

[upbeat sand]

god dont predict the future its to scary

[tawny carbon]

It be nice if we get to choose what voice line they would say as a thing

[tame cobalt]

Do u think stranded breakthrough should have helis on defence for sector 2, 3 , 4

[upbeat sand]

no heles but a armour vehicle

or transport

[eager spire]

Stranded is meant to be a meat grinder map innit

[tawny carbon]

The new armored vehicle lol 😂

[tame cobalt]

But heli would help in last sector with snipers on ship

[eager spire]

why would it have helis?

[pine roost]

I don't mind it remaining heli-less

[upbeat sand]

condor/super hind flank the snipers or just shoot em

[tawny carbon]

They are making more infantry focused maps js

[pine roost]

the conquest variant is amazing for helis

[uncut bay]

the snipers are super annoying on the last sector, not enough cover

[tawny carbon]

And for snipers

[upbeat sand]

a transport hele would be better on stranded breakthough since its also getting people on point

and let you jump on to the top of the ship easier

[tawny carbon]

Will be very annoying if that

[quaint wigeon]

they need to make the last sector inside a building where the attacker have to go in

[eager spire]

that's cool. I wish i could be more interested in that, but the game's just not on that level yet.

[tawny carbon]

That’s why you have McKay

[quaint wigeon]

if you dont want to give defenders vehicles then do that

[tame cobalt]

so heli could help for picking them off

[tawny carbon]

That have plenty of open maps at the moment

[uncut bay]

i don't think vehicles are the answer

[tame cobalt]

[uncut bay]

i like that stranded has none

[tawny carbon]

[tame cobalt]

they're not gonna rework it tho

[quaint wigeon]

fuck it give defenders 2 armored vehicles

[tame cobalt]

so vehicle change is the only option

[uncut bay]

then i'd rather it stay as it is

[tame cobalt]

[uncut bay]

i don't expect them to do anything to the map, just talking ideas

[quaint wigeon]

the trash that it is?

[upbeat sand]

i miss the 128 map layout on breakthough

[eager spire]

They can't afford to literally rework every single map in the game after they make it. Which would be fine if they didn't make maps that need reworks

[upbeat sand]

128 breakthough map with 64 was fun

[tawny carbon]

They make these maps quality so they don’t need to rework it and that will slow down content more than now

[quaint wigeon]

why is that?

[tame cobalt]

they will rework all launch maps tho

Which is poggers

[eager spire]

would've been better if they didn't have to do that.

[tame cobalt]

Breakaway and hour-ass reworks can't come soon enough

[quaint wigeon]

truth^

[upbeat sand]

if they smallen breakaway we'll loose the penguins

[uncut bay]

breakthrough rework needs to just be removing half the fucking map

[tame cobalt]

[uncut bay]

literally the most amount of wasted space i've seen since el alamein

[tame cobalt]

The oil rig and the area with shipping containers on breakaway are pretty cool

[quaint wigeon]

its just odd to me that we have to fucking beg devs to do their god damn job properly like were already testing ur half ass game for u the least u can do is fucking listen and take action

[royal osprey]

I just want more 2042 era weapons and vehicles. Things from BF4's Final stand should make an appearance.

[eager spire]

that being said speaking of infantry focused maps, it would be neat if maps from the BF3 Close Quarters DLC were added to Portal

I think the Close Quarters DLC was underappreciated

[quaint wigeon]

another is thing is begging for old features to be in the new games like why do we even have to ask?

[tame cobalt]

But the oil rig doesn't get enough action in cq128 imo and the area with shipping containers is just really weird to me due to it being close to one team's HQ and having THREE flags so it's just neutral the whole match

idk, just weird map

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame cobalt]

has potential i guess

[eager spire]

You know what i never understood

BF4 removed visual recoil from it's weapons in an update, I think the rationale for it in the update was that the visual recoil was too distracting.

Why didn't they do that for BF1.

[royal osprey]

I want BF4's squad bonuses.

[eager spire]

BF1 works the same way as BF4 in terms of gunplay, it has bloom.

[royal osprey]

Encourage not wiping.

[tawny carbon]

It’s faster to rework a smaller map then a bigger map

[tame cobalt]

[eager spire]

What do you think of the BFH Perks system?

[royal osprey]

2042 Naval combat when? I want to see future destroyers duke it out.

[tame cobalt]

then why is discarded rework taking longer than renewal, manifest, orbital, which are bigger than it

[quaint wigeon]

im convinced there's like one person in each department working that has to be the answer to their incompetence

[tame cobalt]

but yeah u right

[royal osprey]

I didn't play it, but any similar system would be nice.

[tame cobalt]

[quaint wigeon]

that would mean having proper boat vehicles that work in the game no thanks i dont wana see how badly they fuck that up

[tame cobalt]

Next bf will be good though, right guys?

[eager spire]

i wouldn't hold my breath

[pine roost]

I don't think I played before that was changed, but if I did I was too young to understand any changes that were being made😬
But I did just try out some guns in the range and they sights were clean, not sure what I was on about

[royal osprey]

They all saw the signs on the wall and bailed before consequences could happen. Rotating door or what ever the saying was.

[tame cobalt]

Gonna have a good launch, right guys?

[eager spire]

I don't either, but i liked BF4's gun mechanics, which means that visual recoil certainly wasn't a necessary thing to have.

at least in my opinion.

[royal osprey]

2042's version of BF4's boats would be cool. Mobile 57mm with 3 other well armed seats.

[tame cobalt]

Next bf won't take 2 years to get in a solid state, right guys? Guys?

[pine roost]

man it feels so strange to having working mouse input

[tame cobalt]

[quaint wigeon]

the state of this franchise is fucking regressing and no one in charge seems to care

[royal osprey]

I don't want a new BF, I want the one I paid for to be good.

[tame cobalt]

They don't care because their marketing analytics show BF isn't where the big bucks are... They're just milking the remaining fans

[summer zenith]

Battle royales should die

[tawny carbon]

Yes because they have more to work with and on than smaller maps

[tame cobalt]

Hopefully discarded 2.0 isn't like shitty Stranded

[royal osprey]

New ones likely will, competition in the BR category is hard. DICE cannot into BR with their current output.

[quaint wigeon]

unironically 2042 can be their saving grace if they just put effort into it

[tawny carbon]

I’m just hyped about renewal and orbital rn like anyone else is

[eager spire]

Basically here's how Hardline's perks work. You gain Reputation by completing team actions, capping flags, planting bombs, reviving, shit like that. This is dependent on yourself, and not your squad, and these perks only effect you. Also if you die before you reach a tier, it resets. The perks you get for this are nothing major, like for Operator, at Tier 1 you get either extra magazines or faster climbing.
Tier 2, you get faster sprint to ADS time, or an upgrade to your healing.
Tier 3, ADS time increase or revive upgrade.
Tier 4, Faster reloads, or faster weapon switching.

[summer zenith]

Does anyone have the tuktuk t1?

[eager spire]

None of these perks are substantial, they don't really change the outcome of fights that much, but they are useful.

[tawny carbon]

Do you have TukTuk T1

[royal osprey]

2042 is getting to a state where I want to actually play it consistently. So much that could be improved though, could easily be my favourite BF game if DICE works on it.

[tawny carbon]

Hardline is good for its own game tbh

[summer zenith]

Not yet

[tawny carbon]

Then no I do not either tbh, sorry

[summer zenith]

Sadge

[quaint wigeon]

it actually has so much potential and it really could be their best battlefield to date

[royal osprey]

I like BF4 since keeping upgrades depends on the squad, and IIRC they also affect the whole squad.

[tame cobalt]

nah, the 2042 name is too sullied in the general public eyes, they just tryna win over the core audience again

[tawny carbon]

Yes, even though EA made them push the game out, at the end it can easily be one of the best games so far they made

[royal osprey]

Not unsullying the name will unironically seal the studios reputation. Making any new BF before 2042 is in a golden state will make the stain permanent.

[tame cobalt]

2042 damage control isn't about making 2042 successful, it's about getting some trust back before the next game

[eager spire]

It would take a lot of effort to get BF2042 in a state where people do actually wanna play it.

[quaint wigeon]

true but i hear the reviews on steam are getting better there could be sliver of hope

[lilac dust]

Using the avancys for the first time and this is just illegal levels of good

[mental delta]

Next game could be here in a long time

[tawny carbon]

It’s there but just finishing up core of the game and just content from there

[tame cobalt]

[eager spire]

Is it pessimistic to say that i feel like the uptick in positive reviews could just be placebo?

[mental delta]

BF6 already in our hearts

[tame cobalt]

[quaint wigeon]

but who the hell is buying the next game we all know the cycle of battlefield game

[summer zenith]

Never pre order games

[tame cobalt]

2042 will get some success in season 4, but it won't be near the levels that EA really wants to continue investing in it

[tawny carbon]

I will, I’ll pre order the most expensive digital version of the game like I did to 2042 and I don’t regret it at all from day 1

[quaint wigeon]

they get released, its laggy and buggy af; player base dips; they take months to fix it; player base gradually comes back; its been a year, announcing new bf game

[eager spire]

like i donno man, mouse input still isn't fixed. that's a fundamental thing, i don't think it's responsible to say that the game is fixed before that is fixed.

[mental delta]

Tbh the only thing I am curious about is to see what they'll announce about end of season 4, I really wonder of the game will get new seasons or if it will just get abandoned until next game releases which could be in a long time

[pine roost]

there's certainly still a lot to be changed

[tame cobalt]

IMO 2042 won't be fixed until season 4

[quaint wigeon]

you're stronger than i, but im done giving these bozos my money for half ass work its so fucking shameful

[tame cobalt]

Season 4 is where it will be really poggers

[eager spire]

that's entirely reasonable.

[tawny carbon]

I said that and community said “no it’s fixed” or “I never notice the input delay”

[pine roost]

I've been playing more in aircraft recently because I wanted to try and master them, but aircraft are still missing fundemental features and settings

[tawny carbon]

Because EA made them push it out

[eager spire]

those are what we call lies and willing ignorance, i think.

[quaint wigeon]

literally when this game came out it felt like a class project that you and 5 other classmates decided to keep working on cuz it was a cool project for your multiplayer media design class

[royal osprey]

People who keep pre-ordering don't deserve good games. If you cannot control your impulses you deserve to lose your money and get nothing for it.

[mental delta]

I was a bit interested in the next COD game but still no MP trailer and they already showed off some skins though, I don't want to buy a game which will just be skins paradise

[tame cobalt]

Season 4 is where it will actually be where it should've been at launch (remember it doesn't have a campaign so all the extra content is needed to justify full price)

[tawny carbon]

They did that to BF4 and hardline and they fixed it up and people love it

[eager spire]

I can't wait till the campaign early access comes out and someone uploads the whole campaign to youtube

[tame cobalt]

So if they just delayed the game by a year, we would be golden

[summer zenith]

I have seen weapon leaks and the most weapons are mw2019 weapons lmao

[quaint wigeon]

this is so true especially today like what are you doing?? games today just suck so much elden ring was the last game i remember not flopping on release

[upbeat sand]

Ea

[mental delta]

Lmao would be so fun, campaign early access is really suspect btw, it looks like they didn't finish MP yet

[eager spire]

I can't say what the situations for BF4/Hardline were but from what i can get from other people talking about it, 2042's issues are much more severe than those games were.

[summer zenith]

People would complain that it got delayed

[tawny carbon]

Elder scrolls online is worse than 2042 and people enjoy it

[royal osprey]

No, the management would have continued to flipflop on features and game would have been just as broken. More content maybe.

[quaint wigeon]

at this point im convinced COD enjoyers dont care if they have a quality game they just love the brand

[mental delta]

I saw that too and it's a fucking shame, the game looks like it has exactly the same graphics that MW2019 has and also the same content

[eager spire]

we're comparing different types of game here

[tame cobalt]

maybe

[eager spire]

The same could be said of most gamers.

[quaint wigeon]

its so evident that COD does not care to bring out any good games they're releasing new games so that those guns would be meta for warzone

[pine roost]

if they delayed the game by a year and didn't release any kind of playtest beforehand, they would have only dug themselves deeper by working on things the community as a whole dislike

[royal osprey]

This too.

[tawny carbon]

People dislike the game but they still enjoy it to play it till today

[tame cobalt]

Or they have Stockholm syndrome, like 2042 fans

[royal osprey]

Imagine they spent even more time on Hazard-zone, only for the community to barely touch it.

[tawny carbon]

Devs work hard to fix the game and put it together its a lot more than just coding

[eager spire]

I don't understand why Hazard Zone had to exist

It's a pale imitation of a much more complex game.

[tame cobalt]

Well you would expect them to do internal playtests like every other game

[quaint wigeon]

we stay hoping for better days knowing damn well we wont get it

[eager spire]

We also stay cause of a mutual hatred

[pine roost]

honestly I don't know either. If it was meant to reel in the tarkov playerbase, it's not going to work because it's a fast paced shooter, and that isn't what tarkov fans want

[quaint wigeon]

battlefield just needs to stay in its lane do what it does best

[tawny carbon]

Game is based around hazard zone and they focus on the main core of battlefield instead because it was bad then now it’s at a good state than before

[tame cobalt]

Tarkov fans want a shitty game, so hazard zone should be perfect for them

[quaint wigeon]

like get your 128 cq up and running correctly

[eager spire]

It was obviously meant to be their take on a Tarkov-esque game, but the thing about Tarkov is that it's a significantly more complex thing. You can't just take Battlefield and make it into something like Tarkov.

[summer zenith]

What weapons do you guys think will come in season 3?

[eager spire]

It's also why i'm skeptical of CoD's attempt at it, DMZ.

[tawny carbon]

Hopefully a sniper

[tame cobalt]

DMZ devs: sweating profusely

[pine roost]

apparently they are going as far as to introduce new mechanics and overhauled movement for that mode

[eager spire]

Because I don't see how they could make CoD into something like that either. Not without significant changes and additions to how the game works

[pine roost]

but it's cod, so I couldn't care less

[eager spire]

I'll believe it when i see it.

[pine roost]

indeed

[summer zenith]

I would like to see a bow or something

[tame cobalt]

DMZ will be trash, just like tarkov

[eager spire]

yeah

Well i mean, DMZ won't be an MMO like Tarkov

so

[pine roost]

I enjoy tarkov

[eager spire]

that might be a positive for it

[pine roost]

even more so since I got into stalker

[eager spire]

because i really hate Tarkov's MMO-esque design

[tawny carbon]

DMZ is warzone 2.0 as MW2 2022 is MW 2019 2.0

[pine roost]

tbh my taste in games varies so dramatically it makes no sense

[tame cobalt]

No, warzone 2 is warzone 2.0

[eager spire]

nah it's not, DMZ is listed separately from Warzone 2.

It's meant to be it's own thing.

[pine roost]

what does it stand for?

[arctic grove]

b

[royal osprey]

2042 if it had been delayed a year.
Armor plates and Stims are a stackable default feature. Everyone spawn by dropping from a plane. You have a buy phase before dropping even in conquest. Vehicles are random spawns with rarities.

[tawny carbon]

In a why lol 😂

[tame cobalt]

Deez mega zonkers

[eager spire]

I don't think anything officially has been said about that, but it could potentially stand for Demilitarized Zone.

[arctic grove]

Sounds horrible

[eager spire]

did you just describe Firestorm

[summer zenith]

Imagine using 4 stims at once

[tame cobalt]

[eager spire]

you use 4 stims at once, your character just falls over and dies

[summer zenith]

You run for too long you die

[royal osprey]

I described a nightmare.

[eager spire]

speaking of stims apparently Tarkov is planning to make it so stim shots have reduced effectiveness over time and you could also get addicted to them

[summer zenith]

Okay

[eager spire]

sounds like your nightmare is Firestorm.

Which is great for you cause that died in like 7 seconds after it came out

[royal osprey]

4 Stacks of armour plates. Takes 4 shots of sniper to break them all.

[eager spire]

Like, i remember BFV coming out and people talking about Firestorm

A few people played it on launch and then never played it again

[pine roost]

didn't firestorm come out many months after the initial launch?

[eager spire]

I swear it was in the game at launch.

[pine roost]

I don't believe it was, but I'll look it up

[eager spire]

...Nope i'm stupid it was introduced in the third Tides of War chapter.

I think i just remembered it being mentioned before launch and thought it was in the game at launch.

[royal osprey]

I wonder when we will see other drones than the doggo. It has it's own tab in the menus. Kinda sad only 4 can exist in any match, should be atleast double, it was so prominently featured in promotional stuff too.

[pine roost]

yeah it came out like half a year later according to the wiki

[eager spire]

Anyways, regardless, it still died basically immediately

like people did not really care

[pine roost]

i'm surprised they didn't learn from that and decide that hazard zone most likely wouldn't do well either

[eager spire]

they probably thought the whole extract thing would distinguish it

[royal osprey]

Which is funny since it's so common it has it's own damn category. Extraction royales.

[eager spire]

You know what i'm sad never actually came out

BF1 Incursions.

BF1 Incursions, if you didn't know, was a gamemode that was introduced on the BF1 CTE that was like the Competitive Match mode in Battlefield Hardline. It was 5v5, It had unique map variants and kits made exclusively for that mode.

it also had limited vehicles.

It also had Private Matches, a ranking system, and a practice range.

[low timber]

BFV also had an 5v5 in the making.

[eager spire]

As far as i can tell it was only ever in the CTE for a few years before DICE scrapped it.

Which was a shame. I would've played that.

[tame cobalt]

Imagine Sony brings back killzone, but makes it BF-like instead of cod-like won't happen tho

[low timber]

The BFV 5v5 had some neat stuff that never sadly got added to the main game, like the LAD lmg, jammer, barbed wire and a turret like Crawford’s

Goliath RC mine

[eager spire]

The only other unique thing i know about BF1 Incursions is that sight sway was completely removed from it.

You just have no sight sway.

Like what is it with DICE announcing smaller scale competitive modes and then scrapping them

[royal osprey]

All this sounds like stuff that should be adopted into 2042.
I just want fortifications to make a return, but it's too large a feature to not be a selling point for a new game.

[eager spire]

and like, put actual effort into stuff for them too. why not just release it?

Even if people don't play it immediately, there probably will be some interest at some point.

People complained that BF1 didn't have a practice range.

IT WAS IN INCURSIONS

THEY MADE IT

THEY JUST DIDN'T RELEASE IT FOR SOME REASON

[violet otter]

Killzone 2 was kinda like that with it's classes but the maps were quite small

[rapid timber]

killzone was awesome

loved them games

[violet otter]

Shadowfall was trash but I liked 2 the most

Sony doesn't really do anything multiplayer now. Uncharted and Last of us PS5 versions don't even have multiplayer and Killzone servers shut down

[eager spire]

Also BF1 Incursions had a unique King of The Hill mode.

"On Sinai Desert, DICE announced a new gamemode called "King of the Hill". The mode has three sectors per half. To win a match, team need to win four sectors. Each sector has one flag to contest. Holding the flag generates tickets, and the first team to fill a set wins the sector. No other action than holding the flag contributes to tickets. When a sector is completed, both teams are transferred to the next sector.[4] If the match end as draw (3-3), 2 overtime phases will start. "

sounds like an interesting idea

[upbeat sand]

Mf the game keeps black screening on match beginning

[eager spire]

honestly it would be interesting if DICE would try to make a competitive shooter. Like not a Battlefield game, just a competitive shooter.

[rapid timber]

that time of night again, can't find a conquest >:u

[lunar finch]

Yeah thatd be cool

[visual horizon]

Casper, The Friendly Ghost, ily

[rapid timber]

Once i thought i seen the waters on kalidoscope or whatever it is being deep and swimmable what happened to that

Or am i just delusional

[topaz field]

avancys = AWS(lmg from bf4)