#battlefield-2042

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eager spire
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I've also heard that parachuting still doesn't work consistently.

random reef
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New vehicle, you can sit in your own spawn and spam 60mm and rack up kills without leaving spawn. I think its the same thing for the Mav

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Who tf playtest this game?

violet meteor
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Gotta say I've never had either of those issues

violet meteor
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But still that's crazy

eager spire
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so it's better than a tank

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:D

violet meteor
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Right now

random reef
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U right

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BReakthrough and Rush is just fucking ruined at this point

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Only thing thats somewhat fun is Conquest

violet meteor
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I'm holding out for the day where one of the weekly missions is 30 revives so that people actually revive more than 2 times in a round

eager spire
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So there's the vision DICE has, and then there's reality.

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a reality where you can have multiple concussion grenades tossed at you at once, a reality where people stand on top of lights in Stranded, a reality where there are two Crawford turrets set up right next to each other looking in the same direction.

sharp marten
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Crawford tbh needs a buff

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Shits so weak

eager spire
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the man can spawn a minigun out of his fucking back pocket

violet meteor
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Yeah dudes fine I think

sharp marten
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Yeah and the mini gun along with the shield around the mini gun doesn’t do shit

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Unless you’re in a small space then he peaks

random reef
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Nah for once a specialist isnt broken on release

eager spire
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it's still a minigun and it's still a problem that has to be dealt with

sharp marten
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There’s nothing wrong with the mini gun lmao

violet meteor
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It's just people go and set up the turret while under fire so it's already half health or less or you die before you fire

eager spire
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I don't think that would've worked as well as you think it would.

keen loom
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Nah

next onyx
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I was told Crawford is pretty niche.

violet meteor
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Yeah Crawfords moments are far and few between

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I use him for revives mostly

eager spire
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Because the DICE that made BF4 doesn't exist anymore.

next onyx
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Bf4 remastered sounds nice and all but the gameplay doesn't hold up.

sharp marten
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Are you saying having a operator with a mini gun is a problem

violet meteor
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Hard to find moments for the turret

eager spire
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BF4 gameplay is fine, but the DICE behind that gameplay doesn't exist anymore.

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It would be a different game.

torn surge
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Anyone else having issues loading into Exodus conquest?

violet meteor
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I'm like afraid to even bring the turret out cuz I immediately become the target for 64 players lol

sharp marten
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Facts lmao

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Dude gets prioritized

eager spire
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as someone who can spawn a minigun from thin air probably should.

sharp marten
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But I can also see where people think he’s balanced which is also true

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He has it on his back my gamer

violet meteor
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I find the best use for it is for flanking

eager spire
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At most he's an irritation.

bronze stirrup
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Tbh BF4 is clunky and outdated compared to shooters even copying BF better than BF

sharp marten
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You can see it

bronze stirrup
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Gunplay felt nice but the game is slow

eager spire
violet meteor
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I do like how the turrets spread tightens the longer you fire it

sharp marten
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You know like how Irish has a a back pack with his equipment it’s the same for Crawford

fervent grotto
bronze stirrup
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Tbh every time I've gone back to BF4 in the past 2 or 3 years I couldn't stand it

eager spire
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yeah movement was basically the only advantage BFV had over BF1, but BFV had to fuck it up by having random recoil

bronze stirrup
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A fresh coat of shiny paint aint really gonna change that for me

eager spire
fervent grotto
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I wish they would’ve kept the movement mechanics form BFV. BFV gunplay too.

violet meteor
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People want remasters so they can try to relive nostalgic moments

eager spire
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Nah, random recoil ain't it mate.

violet meteor
fervent grotto
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BFV mechanics with BF1 look set in modern day

bronze stirrup
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Mostly console yeah. I dunno like even compared to other slow paced shooters BF4 just doesn't feel as good to play for me anymore

fervent grotto
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That would be sick

eager spire
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iirc BFV did have BF4's gun mechanics at one point, but for some reason they changed it during the game's lifespan.

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I don't know why they did that.

next onyx
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Bf5's random recoil was annoying at times.

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But I dunno. I unironically preferred it over bloom.

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Those are MMG's.

eager spire
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I mean bloom is fine when you understand how it works. The problem is teaching people how it works.

bronze stirrup
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It was both random and predictable because when the recoil just picked a direction you had to compensate it just didnt go the same way every burst

fiery patio
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How do I unlock the stealth helicopters?

next onyx
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The irony is that it just makes a microburst meta that's just boring as hell.

eager spire
bronze stirrup
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One burst it'd pull left the next burst would pull right

next onyx
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I can see the merits over bloom but I just don't like it.

fiery patio
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Google says reach level 10 of the battle pass I'm level 16

bronze stirrup
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That was about as random as it got in V

fiery patio
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Still don't have them.

fervent grotto
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I think all BFV animations are just 10x smoother and better then 4s

bronze stirrup
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Animations and movement in V were the main thing I liked

fiery patio
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Hello!

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?

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Anybody there

bronze stirrup
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Otherwise the rest of the game is a pretty big skip for me

west raft
fiery patio
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Wiki sucks and doesn't explain anything.

eager spire
eager spire
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Otherwise it's mostly like, 5-6 shot bursts at a time?

next onyx
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That's not how I remember it sadly.

eager spire
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well that's how i remember it cause i played the game like yesterday.

next onyx
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Obviously.

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The irony is that I forgot it was a thing back at hardline because the guns killed extremely quickly.

eager spire
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yeah.

next onyx
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So you could kill someone way before it would take effect.

bronze stirrup
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Bloom has its merits but yeah unless you like playing shit like milsims or whatnot for realism it's not fun for gameplay as arcadey as BF

next onyx
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And you'd only burst with battle rifles because of the immense recoil.

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and mag conservation.

bronze stirrup
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Bloom works in games where TTK is like 2 or 3 shots at most

eager spire
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Random recoil isn't fun.

next onyx
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It's not but I'm on that edge with bloom too. In a way I kind of like 2042's gunplay.

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As fucking boring assault rifles are because there isn't much variety to choose from.

fervent grotto
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I know right? I still want a Russian dlc. PPSH, PTRS-41, DP-27, Tokarev, Mosin Nagant, SVT-40, Federov avtomat, and PPSH-43 to name some. Also Stalingrad would be a sick map

next onyx
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Not because of the limited number. But it's because the SCAR is the only best ranged AR.

bronze stirrup
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am40 would just be another m5

next onyx
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The AC42? Can't say it's exactly threatening.

bronze stirrup
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if it had the headshot multipliers

next onyx
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Yeah it's an m5 with a faster reload... If they fix the head shot multiplier.

eager spire
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I wouldn't mind recoil that mattered, but random recoil makes weapon control simply based on RNG, and that's not fun at all, and especially irritating for people that wanna get better at the game.

next onyx
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Definitely.

fervent grotto
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Anyone else notice the P51 has a wrong magazine count listed?

next onyx
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I always ran my FG42 with accuracy improving specs to reduce that to the absolute minimum.

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So it never affected me too much.

fervent grotto
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Also why did they make the bf3 guns have so much recoil compared to everything else? I know this has already been talked about but it makes the guns outclassed.

next onyx
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  1. They had didn't have much to compare it against.
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Because literally.

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People barely play portal.

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The m16a3 would do extremely well with 40+1 rounds and or an increased 5 HK range.

eager spire
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Also DICE didn't put much time into porting the Portal weapons to AOW, apparently.

bronze stirrup
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blame Ripple for developing the weapons poorly

eager spire
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i mean the mastery medal seems to be low quality and there's no skins, not even a T1.

fervent grotto
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Which is so stupid. Don’t put content into the game if your not gonna spend time fixing it

next onyx
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It depends. I was directly told by the weapon dev about the limited testing.

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Classic weapon tuning will really only change damage and spread values.

fervent grotto
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Which is dumb

next onyx
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The damage part only affects bad company weapons because they deal like what, 18.7 Per hit?

eager spire
next onyx
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I do remember someone mentioning there was a small limitation.

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These portal weapons are tagged for 2042 soldiers anyways.

white geyser
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I wish they add 40 round magazine for the M16A3

bronze stirrup
next onyx
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If you go to portal bf3, they'll have different hardpoints.

fervent grotto
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They released this game with so much crap that they didn’t take time to fix and so now that’s why we have these problems.

eager spire
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cause the game was rushed.

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they were rushed and had quite a few bad ideas.

fervent grotto
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I personally wouldn’t have minded a increased release time. At the time, yes I would. But it would have benefited so heavily from more time.

bronze stirrup
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Gotta remember Ripple (Old DICE LA) mostly developed portal while the DICE worked on the rest.

next onyx
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Good lord they're gonna have to give the p90 more range if they wish to have it compete.

eager spire
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Portal would've been a better idea if they just released it as it's own thing with more dev time behind it. and persistent servers.

bronze stirrup
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If they released portal as like a warzone type thing f2p on the side

next onyx
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Want to know the funny part.

bronze stirrup
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BF would be in a way better spot rn

next onyx
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Portal does have persistent servers.

fervent grotto
next onyx
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But because of the base game barely anyone knows.

eager spire
bronze stirrup
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Like it was such an obvious huge market play to compete with COD since warzone is falling off I'm surprised they didn't and just tied it to this development hell of a game.

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Portal would be huge if they marketed it as it's own thing.

next onyx
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Oh right that kind of server.

eager spire
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That's not a persistent server

next onyx
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Alright I got it confused between "Lobby" and "Server" which I was intermittingly.

calm peak
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is bf2042 worth playing now?

eager spire
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but yeah the lack of persistent servers in BF Portal was a mistake on their part, I talked to people who run communities that run BF1/BF4/Formerly BFH servers, and they were disappointed at the lack of support for persistent servers

fervent grotto
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If you have already bought it, try it out

eager spire
next onyx
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Just have a bot sitting in your server and have it running haha.

calm peak
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yea PC

fervent grotto
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If you haven’t bought it then don’t buy full price

next onyx
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Ugh I want to host a 24/7 Valparaiso server.

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What are your specs?

eager spire
next onyx
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If you're willing to deal with the mouse input go through and get it.

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It's fucked on controller too.

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There' a small input delay.

eager spire
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at least DICE fixed aim assist on controllers.

next onyx
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True but input is still bad.

eager spire
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yeah but controllers have working aim assist.

bronze stirrup
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Yeah no longer get locked on where they used to be and it somewhat follows

next onyx
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That might help them but the input dleay still screws with their aim.

wide shore
next onyx
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Actually I plugged my controller in.

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It was weird.

bronze stirrup
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It was so jank how it would get stuck before.

next onyx
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Feeling the new aim assist.

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"Wow it actually sticks?"

eager spire
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still, over 9 months in and input is still fucked?

bronze stirrup
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I've never seen aim assist that actually makes it harder to track targets until 2042 release

calm peak
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guess ill buy MW2 instead then

wide shore
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Still doesn’t feel as good as the aim assist in BF1 and BFV

next onyx
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Most likely due to the rushed nature of this game the engine couldn't be developed properly.

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And I'm going to assume that the next game will work off a branch of this game in the same vain bf5 did to bf1.

bronze stirrup
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If only EA didn't rush the few decent franchises they have and just let the people make a decent game

next onyx
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Release it now fix it later. That's the new mentality of the industry.

eager spire
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because people still buy it.

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and then tell other people to buy it after every update, claiming that things have gotten a lot better while leaving out issues that aren't fixed.

next onyx
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Things are getting better. But yes there are those issues that exist.

bronze stirrup
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Like I doubt EA doesn't have enough money that giving devs an extra year would be a big deal.

eager spire
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oh they have the money.

bronze stirrup
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After the past few years like I genuinely just dont get excited for anything anymore.

eager spire
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The FPS genre is really not doing well at all.

next onyx
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Only game I'm interested in is Silksong.

eager spire
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The last few CoD's have been terrible, 2042 is like this

bronze stirrup
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The best thing the genre has gotten in a long time is Tarkov imo and it's never gonna be in everyone's hands because of how heavy of a game it is to run.

eager spire
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I don't agree that Tarkov is the best FPS on the market.

bronze stirrup
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And it was made by 2 dudes who used to make shooters on Facebook like come on

hexed mango
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i had to shave my moustache SadCompany

bronze stirrup
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It's not the best but when it comes to like detail and polish and a working inventive product it's one of the few we've gotten in a while that isn't a joke.

hexed mango
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now i look like beardless mackay or angel

eager spire
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detail, sure. polish, eh..

worthy elbow
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Lmaoo

bronze stirrup
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An alpha can't be perfect.

eager spire
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beta

bronze stirrup
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Kinda the point of an alpha

eager spire
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it's in beta.

bronze stirrup
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Or beta

eager spire
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a $60 beta

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that you can't get refunds for

bronze stirrup
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But still as a beta it does better than most AAA games on release.

eager spire
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It's also been in beta for years

bronze stirrup
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I honesty dont know why they call it a beta when release is not even gonna be the same game in terms of like receiving a storyline and shit

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The more wipe to wipe BR thing is just the beta

rich flicker
bronze stirrup
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That's why I said alpha just like by reflex because it more feels like one

eager spire
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Honestly I don't count Tarkov along with most FPS games on the market, cause it's an MMO, and it's more of a role playing game than an FPS.

regal sphinx
bronze stirrup
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Eh it's not as roleplay-ey or milsim as like squad or arma

eager spire
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I don't really care for it, a lot of the MMO elements of it piss me off and it seems to be designed by a single guy who can't be told no.

bronze stirrup
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It's more in the same vein as like Insurgency its just an extraction BR

eager spire
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It's not like Insurgency at all.

bronze stirrup
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It has the elements but it still falls into somewhat gamey/arcadey ideas too

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Which seperates it from like full milsim

regal sphinx
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What Insurgency does, does it vrry well. CQC-Combat.

dapper river
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spoilered cuz naughty word

eager spire
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angry boy.

dapper river
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why hasnt this bozo been put down?

west raft
radiant prism
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Least bigoted battlefield game chat user

regal sphinx
quiet shell
keen loom
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How does one smell like monkey pox

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Asking for a friend

bronze stirrup
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The gameplay is has nowhere near the same routines as like Squad or Arma. In the end the formula boils down to a BR because in no real situation are you going out kitted up to find a bunch of lightbulbs just to level up an imaginary hideout for passive bonuses to stats and stuff.

radiant prism
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Is it…supposed to be like Squad or Arma?

bronze stirrup
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He asked how it was gamey/arcadey compared to an actual milsim

radiant prism
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Oh

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Yeah no BF is by no means a milsim and is an awful platform for milsim

bronze stirrup
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I think it's sorta like an Insurgency type deal where it has milsim elements but it's still arcadey enough to not be as serious as a milsim

radiant prism
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Source: a non-zero number of years in milsim

keen loom
bronze stirrup
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BF is obviously just arcadey

radiant prism
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Tarkov is much more hardcore and has milsim elements yeah

regal sphinx
radiant prism
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BF is just above CoD on the “arcade vs realism” scale

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But only just

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Always has been

bronze stirrup
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Yeah not by far lol

radiant prism
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Always should be

bronze stirrup
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I would still consider Tarkov like close enough to an fps instead of just a roleplay game unlike that guy was saying though.

next onyx
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The only milsim server I joined was the same one I shot gecko in with a selbstlader 1906.

west raft
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Idk how related this is to the topic at hand but it kinda reminded me of it

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People saying stuff like "battlefield should be more like this or that" are lowkey dumb like

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Battlefield should be like battlefield cluless

radiant prism
eager spire
next onyx
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Don't think people were too thrilled me wearing my cursed pilot uniform.

radiant prism
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They weren’t

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And it was kinda hilarious

next onyx
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When I shot you they all shot me.

keen loom
eager spire
bronze stirrup
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I would compare it more to like a survival game than milsim tbh with the comical amounts of damage you can just heal off

radiant prism
next onyx
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There's one thing we can agree on. It should be fun.

keen loom
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Battlefunfield

next onyx
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Reduce the cheap shit.

keen loom
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Release anime skins

eager spire
bronze stirrup
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Let me just perform self surgery on the three 7.62 bullets in my gut and walk it off.

next onyx
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Let me just zap the president back alive. Don't worry, he has a 20mm through his heart he'll be fine.

keen loom
eager spire
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I would not put Tarkov anywhere near the same category of game as Battlefield/CoD/any regular FPS shooter. I'd put it closer to like, Rust.

bronze stirrup
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It's not full on arcade but its not really full on milsim/tactical

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It's just hardcore

eager spire
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it is absolutely tactical, it is 100% made to be played like that.

radiant prism
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Yeah hardcore is the best descriptor for Tarkov

bronze stirrup
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Tarkov is not tactical

radiant prism
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Technically yes it is

next onyx
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I go from six siege to battlefield and they're completely different.

bronze stirrup
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People misuse tactical on games too much

radiant prism
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Tactics refer to individual methods of fighting

bronze stirrup
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Tactical is like Ready or Not

eager spire
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Hell, the devs don't even care about solo play, because the intended way to play the game is with a 5 man squad.

bronze stirrup
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or even Siege

next onyx
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What makes it not a tactical shooter in your eyes?

bronze stirrup
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Tactical implies slow and methodical

eager spire
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Actual thing Nikita said btw

radiant prism
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Everything I’ve seen about Tarkov implies slow and methodical to me lmao

next onyx
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Tactical sounds like something you apply tactics with.

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Even more so than other games.

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But ye in tarkov the safest you can play is slow..

eager spire
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Like i said, closer to Rust than any other FPS game.

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and as such, shouldn't be used as comparison for any other FPS game.

bronze stirrup
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To me tactical atleast in games doesn't just mean fast ttk and complicated shooting. When I think tactical I think like yeah Ready or Not drawing a map and having a plan for like every single corner kinda thing

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Drewski made a video that explains the same kinda perspective better than I can but

west raft
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I feel like the closest we have in terms of true "tactical" shooters would definitely be like ready or not, siege, and Arma

radiant prism
bronze stirrup
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From my actual experience playing tarkov people do not play "tactically"

eager spire
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i'm sorry but to imply that Tarkov does not involve being tactical is stupid.

west raft
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Cus like tarkov you can theoretically play solo and come out fine but games like the three I mentioned you actually have to use every resource at your disposal and communicate with others to pull it off

bronze stirrup
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They're either armored up to take 20 shots in a head on fight or sitting in a bush

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They're not planning anything other than how to take loot off the guy they killed

west raft
radiant prism
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Ok I think we’re misdefining or failing to define what our definition of tactics or tactical are

bronze stirrup
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It can be tactical but in general it's just a very hardcore survival/extraction BR

radiant prism
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Because I’ve seen about three different takes on what we mean by it

eager spire
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"they're not planning anything" you technically have to plan out approaches to a lot of common areas on the maps in Tarkov, you gotta plan where you're gonna go and what extracts you're gonna use, and what routes you're gonna take so you get to the extracts on time.

bronze stirrup
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The normal player doesnt use raid maps and lines like pestily

eager spire
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the normal player also doesn't do that well most of the time, so..

radiant prism
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Thats strategy, strategy encompasses the large scale stuff like planning out routes or where people go or what happens when. Tactics are the moment to moment decisions that happen in the field in dealing with specific threats or obstacles.

bronze stirrup
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What pestily does is basically minmax the learning curve of the game

radiant prism
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By its strict military definitions at least

bronze stirrup
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Siege is more tactical than tarkov tbh

eager spire
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He's been playing the game for literally years he knows everything.

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he doesn't need to minmax the learning curve he's already past it

bronze stirrup
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I think I've even heard him say these same things in his stream

radiant prism
bronze stirrup
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It can be played tactically but to call it a tactical shooter is mislabeling.

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Atleast imo

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An opinion is just an opinion when it comes down to it I just have a different understanding of the word

eager spire
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Point is, I don't think Tarkov is the best FPS on the market, because it's nowhere near a traditional FPS, and that's the general market i'm talking about here.

bronze stirrup
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I get that yeah.

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It's not the general spend 5 minutes in a match and leave with 30+ kills thing

next onyx
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Tactical in its definition is of carefully planned actions for a specific military end.

bronze stirrup
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But in terms of quality on the FPS market for a beta it is leaps ahead of most AAA fps games

eager spire
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it's been in beta for literally years.

worthy inlet
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Best fps on the market is obviously pubg

eager spire
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

bronze stirrup
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And it's like less than half of the game it's gonna be at launch

next onyx
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Terraria best shooter.

worthy inlet
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Minecraft hunger games

eager spire
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Like, sure, "this game is in beta and it's better than most shooters" is a great selling point but i feel like that's a bit diminished when it's been in beta for longer than most shooters have been alive post-launch.

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like of course it'll have more work put into it, simply due to what it is and the fact that they've been working for so long.

violet meteor
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Anyone gonna get helldivers 2?

bronze stirrup
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I can't wait for it's full release tbh

eager spire
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I don't care about EFT's full launch, I don't really care for the game in it's current state. I find it mostly irritating.

bronze stirrup
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They way they make tying a story to it sound it's like we're gonna be getting a STALKER game but with extraction style pvp

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I'm obsessed with recon stuff so the game is already a big comfort zone for me

worthy inlet
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The whole gameplay style of tarkov does not appeal to me

eager spire
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The aesthetics and tone of it are great. I hate the gameplay.

bronze stirrup
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I'm a recce kinda guy so it's my vibe

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What got me into it was how much it looked like STALKER tbh

eager spire
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It's the kind of game i would appreciate more as a single player or co-op game, but as an MMO? Piss off.

violet meteor
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Been a minute

eager spire
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It is very STALKER-like. because the devs happened to really like stalker.

bronze stirrup
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I feel like Tarkov has appeal to people with like in world training and stuff moreso than not just because of the difficulty curve

eager spire
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i guess.

bronze stirrup
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Like there really is a lot of depth in the game that they take from real world training like the amount of noise you make and stuff

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If there's one thing I give Nikkia credit for it's his attention to detail

eager spire
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ah yes, the amount of noise you make. you don't make any noise when you're opening up your inventory and loading mags, but you do make noise when you ADS.

bronze stirrup
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iirc you do make reload and bag noise now

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It was a bug I'm pretty sure

eager spire
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no

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there's no world noise for those interactions

tacit sorrel
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Wow pkp is so bad

bronze stirrup
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I know for a fact you make bag noise now because I've seen it in videos and even rushed people in their inventory hearing it this previous wipe atleast

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You can hear the zipper

eager spire
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probably thinking of medkits.

bronze stirrup
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Reloading I've never noticed though tbh

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Usually fights end before either side hits that point in my case

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Cus I either dip or one of us ded

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re engaging in fights is only one of the things I just don't do

eager spire
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I just have no love for Tarkov's gameplay as it is.

bronze stirrup
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I mean I like it cus I can apply stuff I actually know to a game and get rewarded but yeah it's not everyone's thing

charred stag
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Stupid question. Is the new vehicle immune to C5 or something?

eager spire
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it has APS

bronze stirrup
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also i swear the irish trophy system doesn't stop c5

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Cus I had a few games hiding in that cubby overlooking the B point on stranded breakthrough just farming his tiers that way but every single c5 got through and downed someone.

violet meteor
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Is it supposed to?

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It's not a projectile

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I mean it's projecting from your hand lol

bronze stirrup
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Someone told me its supposed to catch c5 too which sounded odd to me

violet meteor
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Hm

bronze stirrup
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Because the mpap didn't stop it in BF4

violet meteor
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I wouldn't think of c5 as a projectile

bronze stirrup
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But yeah now I know this I guess

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Me either tbh

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The counter I usually think of for a trophy system would be c4

violet meteor
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But they do gotta fix the m16's bouncy grenade lol

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That doesn't get picked up on on the sentinel

mossy badge
worthy inlet
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Wrong

bronze stirrup
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I wonder if it has something to do with velocity like that one heli weapon

worthy inlet
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Real best FPS is ARK

bronze stirrup
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The velocity is obviously off the charts with how high it fires I think

violet meteor
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Idk it's funky

eager spire
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I have a lot of opinions about MW19, and most of them are "the game is ok but it would've been better if it didn't have like, a long list of things"

bronze stirrup
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They nailed gunplay in that game

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It's the one thing that keeps me playing it

eager spire
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yeah but they fucked up weapon balance near the end

bronze stirrup
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Eh they fixed most of what was broken for the most part

eager spire
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adding the AS VAL/CR56 in the state they were in and never fixing them was a mistake, as well as having Overkill as a perk

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Literally all anyone did with that was run 725's as secondaries or run the KAR98 as a secondary in Warzone.

bronze stirrup
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The ASVAL and AMAX stayed dominant even after tweaks but yeah they just moved on

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Warzone and MW2019 balancing were different things

eager spire
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they made it so guns in MW19 worked the same way that they do in Warzone.

bronze stirrup
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Guns had tweaked values and stuff compared to MP

violet meteor
eager spire
bronze stirrup
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They worked mostly the same but certain things like ranges and muzzle velocity especially on snipers were different because they had to deal with longer ranges

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They were basically identical for the most part yeah

eager spire
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they were exactly the same.

worthy inlet
eager spire
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Also, High Alert is a ridiculous idea as a perk.

violet meteor
worthy inlet
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ARK is good fun ngl

violet meteor
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I'm still recovering from ark days lol

worthy inlet
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ARK is NOT fun on public servers though

violet meteor
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I sometimes hear the ark poop noise

eager spire
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no games like that are fun on public servers

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that's just a rule

bronze stirrup
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Sure that's totally why the AX-50 had a period of time where it was practically hitscan in WZ but not in MP

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exactly the same

eager spire
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implying the sniper rifles weren't basically hitscan on MP maps anyway cause they're smaller.

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of course that could've also just been Raven Software cocking things up in Warzone.

bronze stirrup
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If you were playing GW it was a noticeable difference especially on maps like the air junkyard or airport. You still had to lead a bit in MP whereas WZ it was just dead center of your crosshair no matter the speed

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I don't remember what it was exactly but I think it was like a tweak across the board for snipers in WZ but the AX-50 ended up with a muzzle velocity of like 1.5-2k which in the game is enough to practically be hitscan

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They did a similar oops recently with a sniper before killing them across the board

keen loom
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Someone say call of booty

eager spire
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I see. iirc MW19 guns were basically all hitscan before Warzone came out, and then they changed all of 'em to be projectile based.

keen loom
bronze stirrup
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MW just went through a lot of weird tweaks tbh after warzone

eager spire
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can't wait for someone to upload the whole campaign when the early access comes out

keen loom
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I’ll do it

next onyx
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I think black ops 4 had projectiles too.

bronze stirrup
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I wish it was more than the campaign tbh

keen loom
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At least it’s something before launch

eager spire
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MW19's campaign was...interesting, though not for good reasons.

bronze stirrup
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Hopefully there's a multiplayer beta around the corner

keen loom
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Clean house was my favorite MW19 mission

next onyx
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Black ops 4 was the first one that strayed from hitscan I believe cause of black out.

However. That might just be for that.

proud gorge
keen loom
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eager spire
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I found CIA dude and SAS bloke to be unimpressive. Farah was the only interesting main character. I'm not counting Price.

keen loom
bronze stirrup
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I thought the Gaz and Price dynamic was a great perspective

eager spire
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References to IRL war crimes, except in the CoD canon the warcrimes were done by Russia rather than the US as with their real counterparts

bronze stirrup
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The CIA guy I couldn't care less about but they handled the SAS missions perfectly imo

eager spire
fervent grotto
keen loom
hexed mango
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unsure

eager spire
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Also, the people writing MW19 were making big talk before the game came out, stuff like "We're focusing on the effects of war on civilian populations", and "there are no good and bad guys, only shades of grey morality"

violet meteor
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Can't wait to preorder to play early, then cancel and wait for reviews on release lol

fervent grotto
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I’m on Xbox so I gotta wait till the 22nd but man I’m good

hexed mango
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booz

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bozo

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bozo

violet meteor
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You've been gone awhile Boinbius

keen loom
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Forehead

violet meteor
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That rule fucked off for awhile

hexed mango
eager spire
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And then MW19 came out and General Barkov/The Wolf are literally the most blatant antagonists i've ever seen in my entire life

keen loom
hexed mango
fervent grotto
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Why does Xbox have to have the worst deals with activision PensiveFish

hexed mango
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i got my hair cut, shaved, ordered food, ate food, died, boined, etc

violet meteor
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Pointless things to do

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Should have just bought boins instead

fervent grotto
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Invest in boin

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It is the currency of the future

keen loom
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Boins rocket

upbeat sand
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Boins should not become an actual crypto currency or everything and the meme will be ruined

eager spire
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actually speaking of The Wolf, what was his purpose in MW19's campaign?

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I don't remember.

upbeat sand
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Boins

fervent grotto
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Ok so I’m experiencing what I like to call major bullshit. I hate games that don’t register bullets, projectiles, things along those lines after death

violet meteor
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Look a boin

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In the wild

fervent grotto
violet meteor
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Approach it slowly

upbeat sand
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Let's catch it

violet meteor
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Lure it with some money first

eager spire
hexed mango
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anyways i have still yet to have the chance to sit down today... my mom keeps making me do shit

violet meteor
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Or a credit card number

fervent grotto
upbeat sand
tacit sorrel
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Breakthrough 🤮 always the worst teammates possible why I never play this trash mode

keen loom
fervent grotto
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But apparently in the new campaign Imran Zahkaev will lead Al Qutala

arctic grove
upbeat sand
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And sundance spam

hexed mango
fervent grotto
tacit sorrel
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Teams just hit a wall on offense and steamrolled on defense

violet meteor
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At least try to spell it right lol

arctic grove
eager spire
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mission where you're playing as CIA dude giving weapons to Al Qutala because they're harassing another nation the US hates

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ah wait that'd be too direct

fervent grotto
arctic grove
mossy badge
fervent grotto
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Your always against Al Qutala

hexed mango
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ok bozo

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!!r2

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I know this

eager spire
fervent grotto
arctic grove
eager spire
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well actually i didn't make that up

fervent grotto
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Yea yea it happened in real life

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I know

eager spire
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that's actually true the CIA trained people in Afghanistan to fight the soviets and those people then became Al Quada.

fervent grotto
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Cod isn’t about making political statements

arctic grove
eager spire
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That would've been a more interesting story beat to include rather than just having the Highway of Death and Haditha Massacre But Russia Did Them in the game.

arctic grove
eager spire
fervent grotto
violet meteor
eager spire
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it's still a political thing.

violet meteor
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Even the mods were at it 😛

fervent grotto
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Just because cod has people shooting each other it’s not about politics

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eager spire
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doesn't matter if they're "trying", war is in itself inheritly political.

fervent grotto
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Is BF about irl politics?

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No?

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That’s what I thought

violet meteor
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What about the war of the ring?

fervent grotto
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Cod isn’t a game about making political statements. Don’t care if “war is political” cod isn’t

eager spire
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World War 1 and World War 2 were things that happened IRL.

arctic grove
fervent grotto
eager spire
arctic grove
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Fair

violet meteor
upbeat sand
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Not to get political but

What the fuck is Florida

fervent grotto
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Bruh

violet meteor
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I suppose next you're gonna tell me the star wars didn't happen a long time ago in a galaxy far far away?

arctic grove
fervent grotto
violet meteor
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Florida gets a bad rap cuz of the sunshine laws

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It's more or less like any other state

fervent grotto
upbeat sand
eager spire
arctic grove
eager spire
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Though obviously the people behind the warcrimes have been changed for the sake of the narrative.

violet meteor
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That's why you hear so much crazy shit happening in Florida

fervent grotto
upbeat sand
violet meteor
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Like immediately

fervent grotto
upbeat sand
serene wolf
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star wars is a christian tale

fervent grotto
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@eager spire all I’m saying is that cod isn’t about making political statements. It never has and never will be.

copper fulcrum
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Star Wars is just Space World War II Religious Crusades

fervent grotto
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Sure they have real life war crimes and things in their games, but it isn’t about making political statements

upbeat sand
eager spire
# fervent grotto Ok? Doesn’t mean it’s trying to be political. It’s a fake game. Politics don’t h...

I mean, I look at Infinity Ward explicitly deciding to reference both the Highway of Death and Haditha Massacre war crimes, putting them in basically the same place, some vaguely middle eastern looking place, and the only thing of particular note that they change about these two incidents is that they're not committed by the US in this narrative. No, Russia did them, because it's convenient to the narrative. I see that, and i'm just thinking there's definitely some underlining theme going on here, you know?

violet meteor
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Yeah when I'm playing cod and battlefield campaigns the last thing I'm thinking of are political statements

copper fulcrum
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CoD had heavy "Fuck War" sentiments way back in the day and that in of itself is a political statement

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Hell, look at World at War especially

dapper river
serene wolf
warm badge
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What's the best best of the new weapons (season 1 & 2)

dapper river
copper fulcrum
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Avancys or BVSM

next onyx
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The irony is that both sides look pretty shit.

eager spire
next onyx
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There's a creepy undertone with the U.S.

copper fulcrum
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Man, it's like the world is corrupt in real life

next onyx
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No duh.

copper fulcrum
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WHOOPS DID I SAY THAT OUTLOUD

next onyx
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You don't really see that in games.

warm badge
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Thx I don't have any of them yet

serene wolf
next onyx
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The p50 is good too by the way.

upbeat sand
next onyx
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It's the strongest machine pistol in the game.

arctic grove
copper fulcrum
next onyx
hexed mango
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PF51 makes me wanna die

next onyx
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I'm so tired.

copper fulcrum
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Sleep dummy

arctic grove
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P50 is just a smaller PP if u really think about it

hexed mango
next onyx
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Been so busy with studying.

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Plus I did go to sleep haha.

hexed mango
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sleep more

eager spire
next onyx
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Went to the royal Adelaide show for the first time in 6 years.

eager spire
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Which is a shame.

next onyx
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Best time of my life for a very long time.

hexed mango
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honestly this is my favorite universal now

next onyx
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Good boy.

hexed mango
eager spire
hexed mango
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my dad isnt a dog person and my mom has 2 cats, so ive never lived with a dog

hexed mango
next onyx
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There were Bengal cats too.

eager spire
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yeah. That's a weird trailer in the context of this being a military shooter.

hexed mango
next onyx
eager spire
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On top of everything else going on in 2042.

hexed mango
next onyx
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Just glad to see they aren't imbred.

hexed mango
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but

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its just Microsoft being microsoft

eager spire
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Just thematically, it's weird.

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hexed mango
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its not like an "official" 2042 trailer

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its promotional material, 100%, but its for xbox

eager spire
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But DICE did indeed make it.

hexed mango
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sure but these are the only like actual battlefield trailers

next onyx
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Different quotas, all that shit.

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Oh yeah the Steve trailer. People hated him.

hexed mango
next onyx
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Fuck me I forgot about the elite intros.

hexed mango
next onyx
violet meteor
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Master of boins

hexed mango
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not bad

final lintel
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Why did they get rid of 32 v 32?

eager spire
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how could you possibly not like 128 players

upbeat sand
final lintel
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Naw, 32 v 32 was way more fun cause its way faster pace

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But with a large ass nap

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Map

upbeat sand
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Too much over capping every match

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Felt really imbalanced

final lintel
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Never had that issue

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I have that issue more in this 128 mode

next onyx
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Wilhelm and Akira had the better intros.

arctic grove
eager spire
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Tried to send a message, got blocked by automod, and then couldn't send messages anymore.

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that's annoying.

upbeat sand
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Bloody amercians I've seen in some of the 2042 discussions are just saying ADD MORE AMERCIANS INTO THE GAME

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Bruv

next onyx
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Yeah wilhelm was the axis assault.

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The one with the mask.

eager spire
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i thought that guy was funny

next onyx
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Why so

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?

copper fulcrum
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Phantom of the Opera

arctic grove
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Walmart Phantom of the Opera

eager spire
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Basically what they said

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the guy looked stupid for being a n*zi

copper fulcrum
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If there was ever a "This guy looks too clean" thing for Battlefield characters, that guy. Oh and Siegfried

copper fulcrum
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I think Siegfried was fighting before the Third Reich and likely died before it too lol

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Speaking of Battlefield V, have you guys seen the 20th anniversary player card background description for it?

upbeat sand
copper fulcrum
next onyx
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Akira had the best - best squad intro.

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Ww2 started at 39 didn't it?

copper fulcrum
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I like that BF1 had a whole description of the war stories and BFV's description is just Last Tiger

next onyx
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Nordlies and No flag were mentioned on 5's.

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The British one.

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And tiralleur.

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However it's spelt..

copper fulcrum
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But those were also maps in the multiplayer game lol

next onyx
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Might of not been spelt so obviously but doesn't take away at all.

elder patrol
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Donkeyboins

violet meteor
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Wait, I am

arctic grove
storm jolt
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after going back to low player count modes it seems so empty

violet meteor
arctic grove
violet meteor
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No but he's good at acting like one

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Plus there's that rumor about what he does with fish

arctic grove
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Hence why i see the Elite more like Johnny Cage

arctic grove
next onyx
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What.

violet meteor
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Look it up

hexed mango
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like, the deep?

violet meteor
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Last thing I need is another mute for some bullshit

hexed mango
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from the boys

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idk just dm me

violet meteor
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Is he still into scientology

hexed mango
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probably

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most actors are

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but that's just hollywood

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tom cruise is still a cool actor

violet meteor
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Yes

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I respect actors that can do their own stunts

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Dude flies planes too

wide shore
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Hind campers can sniff my butt

next onyx
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Shame he's an asshole in reality.

hexed mango
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he owns that P-52 at the end of tg: m

copper fulcrum
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Everybody is an asshole

hexed mango
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from a certain point of view

next onyx
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This one's a bit special. Dude's a cultist following Scientology.

violet meteor
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Yeah when your whole life is constantly being reported and filmed on

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There's gonna be some dirt

next onyx
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Definitely.

hexed mango
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so is like 90% of hollywood.

formal imp
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They will add more portal guns into AOW soon right?

hexed mango
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its unfortunate, but as an actor, he's a good actor

wide shore
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The Avanacys is great but I don’t think it’s even remotely OP

next onyx
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Yeah we have the p90, m98b and aks74u scheduled.

formal imp
violet meteor
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P90 you say

hexed mango
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just 23 days away

violet meteor
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Neat

hexed mango
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ye

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aks is gonna be fun

wide shore
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They need to buff the hell out of the rest of the ARs. Especially the M16 and AM40

next onyx
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They're going to have to make the p90 and aks74u good otherwise they're not going to last.

hexed mango
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but i bet its gonna be fucking weird like the M16

next onyx
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The p90 deals 20 damage within 10 metres.

hexed mango
next onyx
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900 rpm..

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Mp9 has a 981 rpm and deals 22 damage within 29.

copper fulcrum
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Quick Question, how many cosmetics have DICE put the Frostbite logo on?

next onyx
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Not sure.

wide shore
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They need to look at the M16 and M60 again. Cause they’re just so awkward compared to the rest.

hexed mango
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as in the hand?

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like cosmetics ingame?

next onyx
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They're going to have to give the p90 the same range and damage value as the mp9.

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To make it remotely competitive.

proud gorge
hexed mango
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ok

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bozo

proud gorge
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And besides people talk about diff shit here all the time

copper fulcrum
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It looks like one of Dozer's skins that Temporyal leaked has that on his face

proud gorge
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Wait Boin calling me a bozo

arctic grove
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Mood

wide shore
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I really hope the AKS is good. Cause I wanna use it. Cause it’s an AKS

formal imp
hexed mango
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i dont think the frostbite logo is on ingame assets... unless im blind

next onyx
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Because the gunplay assuming bf3 on bf3 is different.

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I don't think the aks74u will be decent unless they give it decent range.

wide shore
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The M16 just kicks like a mule. And has a bunch of visual recoil.

proud gorge
# arctic grove Mood

I think someone pissed in his cereal today that’s why he calling people bozo

arctic grove
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LMAO

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Bet

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We will find out later tonight when we play

formal imp
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What does the urban role mean

proud gorge
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Don’t care cry about it

hexed mango
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!!regular

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proud gorge
hexed mango
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cereal is the lamest breakfast

wide shore
hexed mango
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my day has been long though

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i also say bozo a lot

regal marsh
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!regular

next onyx
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I know of a way to make the AKS74 go though.

regal marsh
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!!regular

hexed mango
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next onyx
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Give it the same range as the pp29.

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And it will be set.

proud gorge
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When dice gonna give the new lmg more recoil

next onyx
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We'll see what they do.

regal marsh
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🚔

next onyx
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It's more like an m5 except it's actually good.

hexed mango
proud gorge
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Don’t care

regal marsh
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woof woof

formal imp
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Honestly the concussion nades seem pretty niche

next onyx
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Do think some adjustment would help but i don't think it's overbearing at the moment.

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I've been hit by them. They're bastards.

copper fulcrum
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The sound effects help

regal marsh
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when was bf 1 and bf v made free for the release of bf 2042

proud gorge
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VCAR more funny

hexed mango
proud gorge
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Tho the slug 12M is a 2 shot from any range

next onyx
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If anything. The reload speed for the avancys with extended rounds needs to be increased.

hexed mango
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tbh it is super slow

next onyx
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It's too quick.

hexed mango
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its too quick?!??!

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what

next onyx
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Standard extended is really quick.

eager spire
hexed mango
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takes like 2 seconds to reload

next onyx
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Standard rounds is fine.

hexed mango
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2.5 or smth idk

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3

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5 maybe idk

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closer to 10

proud gorge
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Also the ammo for the AM40 is bugged

next onyx
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@hexed mango Run standard and load standard extended. See how much more time it takes.

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On the lcmg.

hexed mango
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ok

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oh

proud gorge
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Subsonic says it has -Reload speed

hexed mango
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nvm

proud gorge
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But if you use it

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You reload faster

hexed mango
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i thought we were talking about a different gun

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lol

next onyx
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I was originally talking about the avancys and was talking about how quick it is to reload.

hexed mango
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avancys isnt quick tho

regal marsh
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bf 2042 worst game in existance than gta trilogy defininitive edition and cyberpunk 2077

proud gorge
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I am talking about AM40 and how subsonic might be bugged

hexed mango
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that shouldnt be changed either

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avancys doesnt need much change, other lmgs do tho

next onyx
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It's quick with standard extended.

hexed mango
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what

next onyx
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It's weird to say.

hexed mango
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avancys? no

formal imp
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For real though we need to talk about that one skin for mackay with the sunglasses and helmet he looks ridiculous

next onyx
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It's quick for an LMG.

hexed mango
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so in comparison to the other lmgs

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ive never really used the other two

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but avancys reload is pretty long

next onyx
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Standard is long but standard extended isn't any longer.

hexed mango
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cyberpunk just got a new patch i havent played yet

hexed mango
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dont give dice ideas on how to fuck up good guns

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cause they will nerf it into the ground so fast

proud gorge
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Btw anyone got the new 5X scope

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It’s really nice

formal imp
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What’s y’all’s favorite gun atm

regal marsh
formal imp
next onyx
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It will still be good echo.

proud gorge
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Came out with the patch I think

mossy badge
next onyx
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It just needs a small adjustment.

upbeat sand
proud gorge
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Available for snipers and Marksman rifles

hexed mango
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for what guns

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o

proud gorge
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125m kills

hexed mango
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this isnt new

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bro

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this has been out since S1

proud gorge
formal imp
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The one with iron sights on the side?

hexed mango
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literally the default sight for the BSV

proud gorge
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I never seen it in season 1

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For other guns

upbeat sand
hexed mango
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the canted one came out in S1 as well

proud gorge
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@hexed mango it’s also available for sniper rifles

regal marsh
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but bf v is better than bf 2042 rn

proud gorge
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You 2 brain cell IQ

hexed mango
proud gorge
hexed mango
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for literally 4 months

proud gorge
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I played during season 1 and I ONLY. Seen it for the AS VAL gun

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Never for sniper rifles

hexed mango
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it was on other guns

regal marsh
formal imp
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Nah boinbus correct on this one chief

next onyx
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The BSV came pre equipped with the PSO. It was also available for the snipers and dmrs soon thereafter.

upbeat sand
hexed mango
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its also on some ARs

proud gorge
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Way giving a better answer then Boin

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Blessed aussie

hexed mango
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*all ARs

next onyx
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I know the SCAR has a variation of it.

keen loom
upbeat sand
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Jack frags thought the other x2 scope was a new s2 one

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Bruv

hexed mango
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yep just checked, all ars have it

arctic grove
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is the ac 42 even good

hexed mango
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XO Smart is kinda mid ngl

hexed mango
regal marsh
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bf 1 and bf v are world wars anf bf 2042 is a war in the future year 2042

hexed mango
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depends on how you play

upbeat sand
hexed mango
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its good as a DMR

regal marsh
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which is 20 years away

hexed mango
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and if you use it right, the burst is handy

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but i'd say the SFAR is a tad better

arctic grove
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although that new AR though 🥱

formal imp
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I still wish the nade launcher on the sfar was removable

hexed mango
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@proud gorge when we playing

upbeat sand
formal imp
upbeat sand
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It's good for med range

proud gorge
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Poopenfarten 💩

hexed mango
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ok @arctic grove when we playing

hexed mango
regal marsh
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💩

keen loom
proud gorge
hexed mango
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omg

upbeat sand
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Takedown camera on bumpy ground is still not fixed

hexed mango
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Red Notice legendary Maul Hybrid sight for M5A3

upbeat sand
hexed mango
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3.5x

next onyx
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Top sight.

arctic grove
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around 9pm

formal imp
upbeat sand
formal imp
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Thank goodness

upbeat sand
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Every led gun skin will have 1 custom sight

hexed mango
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Yesterday our GM Rebecka Coutaz joined industry colleague Tanya Watson for a fireside chat at D.I.C.E. Barcelona - discussing the evolution of Battlefield 2042, and how to create a stable, focused, and inspiring environment for game development.
@Official_AIAS #DICEBarcelona

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upbeat sand
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If you ever think 2042 is broken remember

Sonic 06

proud gorge
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So funny

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2042 gonna last 1 year then next battlefield

upbeat sand
hexed mango
formal imp
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I just hope they can make the franchise good again

upbeat sand
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Just make 1 grounded game and continuously update that 1

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We don't need more

hexed mango
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Alex is stalking me

next onyx
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LOL.

hexed mango
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im calling Elon Musk

storm jolt
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im hoping 2042 turns into "the" battlefield, w/portal and all

keen loom
hexed mango
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i wonder what Venezuela is like

formal imp
next onyx
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Just wish we got more portal maps.

eager spire
arctic grove
next onyx
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Like thanks for the weapons but what about the maps for portal?

storm jolt
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did other battlefields have spectator

upbeat sand
formal imp
eager spire
next onyx
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I know they have to update textures and shit but still.

eager spire
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BF3 didn't have it because it got scrapped

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but it's still in the files and the people behind Venice Unleashed got it working

storm jolt
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didnt really use it then cus most of my time was in bf3 and not so much bf4 because of how buggy and dull it was

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i did like commander mode in bf4 though

upbeat sand
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Bayonets in warfare when

arctic grove
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Bro i just want a bf3 and 4 remaster bundle smh

eager spire
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Do you really want BF3 and BF4 remasters from this DICE?

arctic grove
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Easy Cash Grab

hexed mango
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the clone wars has begun

eager spire
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ugh.

upbeat sand
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Run smoke grenade launcher, concussion grenade, go dozer, breakthrough, spam smoke, flash in

Dozer smash

arctic grove
hexed mango
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Florian, Adriaan and Sam all have the same 2042 background, probably other devs as well

arctic grove
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Plus they work on Portal (supposedly)

violet meteor
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Dozer dead

upbeat sand
violet meteor
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You can't walk more than 2 feet without stepping in fire

upbeat sand
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U sure

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I got a 25+ kill with dozer sheild

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Then my game crashed dx error