battlefield-2042

[simple reef]

As is Paik's and Boris'.

[proud gorge]

I wanna use helis

But never find someone for it

[reef bough]

i did a few times but they sometimes crash before getting anywhere lol

[simple reef]

I get that T1's are supposed to be a grind, but a lot of them (pretty much all vehicles especially) are ridiculous in their requirements.

[proud gorge]

That’s why you need a buddy as a heli

Never a random

[quaint wigeon]

im pretty sure any level of elevation works like for example the hill on the first sector overlooking the border area those count

[proud gorge]

2 man attack heli can dominate a team

[fossil trench]

Idk randoms can be quite good

[proud gorge]

If smart

[reef bough]

caspers t1 is easiest and my only so far

then sws and then m5a3 which i only have mastery 2 on lol

[fossil trench]

Paik is the easiest

[proud gorge]

Casper pike Rao and Irish T1

[fossil trench]

By far imo

[quaint wigeon]

shoulda been using paik lol

[reef bough]

caspers is very easy just broing

boring*

[simple reef]

No taste lol.

[quaint wigeon]

yeah caspers u just dont play the game

[reef bough]

park drone above objective in breakthrough then go afk

[proud gorge]

Just played kaleidoscope map before they made the flag for the hotel bigger

[reef bough]

lol

[proud gorge]

Since all would camp inside the hotel

Ez spots

[reef bough]

also kaleidoscope is very good for casper

[simple reef]

Everything about Paik sucks and I hate her.

Fuck her.

[proud gorge]

Even for RAO

[simple reef]

Remove her from the game.

[reef bough]

because you can clip the drone into the ceiling of one of the objectives

[proud gorge]

I used the proxy sensors

Before buff

[simple reef]

Her voice is so fucking annoying.

[proud gorge]

Got them done

[reef bough]

making it invisible to people on it

[quaint wigeon]

whats your guys' highest mastery?

[reef bough]

40 lol

26 on guns

idk vehciles

[fossil trench]

100+ on paik

[quaint wigeon]

i didnt really care to use other specialists nor get their t1s so i just ended up with 255 on paik

[simple reef]

46 on Casper, 40 on a weapon, 41 on a gadget.

[quaint wigeon]

but logically that bitch is just OP why wouldnt u use her lol

[fossil trench]

Right?

[simple reef]

10 on a Vehicle.

Vehicle T1's are ridiculous.

[reef bough]

[simple reef]

Requirements are way too high.

[fossil trench]

Paik was just nerfed a couple of hours ago though

[reef bough]

highest grenade is 30 or so with spotting one

[fossil trench]

😔

[proud gorge]

@reef bough let’s play 2042 then

2 man attack heli

[reef bough]

i have good headshot rate but awful winrate

sure later

[quaint wigeon]

in all my years of battlefield i never cared to get good with helis 😦

[reef bough]

who flies though

[proud gorge]

I forgot I played the battlefied V alpha so when I got it recently

[simple reef]

This'll haunt me forever.

[proud gorge]

I had the alpha emblem

[fossil trench]

Paik now sees players for 0.07 seconds 💀

Nice nerf

[simple reef]

0.75

[reef bough]

also tried grinding jets but meh

much worse than helis

[quaint wigeon]

i really wanted to get into planes on bf5 so rewarding

[fossil trench]

“Changes to Paik’s EMG-X Scanner are now active to reduce its disruptive impact on gameplay flow:

Scan Range -> 25m
Spot Duration 0.85 -> 0.07s

This means Scanning now acts as a snapshot instead of a prolonged Spot, while also requiring you to be closer to players to Scan them.”

[reef bough]

BFV planes are great yeah

I loved flying

bf2042 jets are meh

[simple reef]

Ah, I mistook the original time.

[fossil trench]

It’s now 0.07s

[quaint wigeon]

rarely see them i forget theyre in the game

[simple reef]

?

[reef bough]

cause theyre just worse than helis

[simple reef]

It's easy to get most of the achievements.

[proud gorge]

I enjoy jets sometimes

[reef bough]

same just like

[proud gorge]

Air to ground rockets

[reef bough]

very few kills compared to helis

[proud gorge]

Bully tanks

[reef bough]

ive not gotten AGMs yet, takes a while for me

[proud gorge]

Same now am happy I got them

When that new map for season 1 came out

I was enjoying jet bully

When I had the chance

[reef bough]

lol yeah

stock is just meh

[proud gorge]

Killing civi trucks with ATGs lol

[reef bough]

i just hunt condors and stealth helis

[fossil trench]

Jets are great at bullying helis

[proud gorge]

Nah

The new stealth heli is

There MGs will murder you

[full burrow]

what was paiks previous scan range?

also give back exodus

game unplayable without

[reef bough]

30h to get T1 on casper

[fossil trench]

Not sure. It was a good 3x that or something

[fallen pendant]

The fact that console players has less recoil than pc players in bf2042 and bf5 is ridiculous

[proud gorge]

Exodus?

[fossil trench]

It was much larger

[fallen pendant]

It gives the console players the advantage

[full burrow]

60 maybe before?

[proud gorge]

@full burrow explain

[full burrow]

Exodus conquest, its 64 players CQ using new and good old maps

they remove it to have 24/7 new map modes

[fossil trench]

Yeah something like that

[reef bough]

i prefer 128 conquest otherwise some points have few players

[proud gorge]

Dice don’t care

128 players would of been funny for battlefield 1 @reef bough

[full burrow]

128 in my opinion worse for having few players in areas cos theres more people but all want to fight between the same 2 points

[fallen pendant]

Too bad when I get into a lobby I only see 1 or 2 players in 128 conquest

[proud gorge]

You know Great War? Big sides charging at once

[full burrow]

leaving the rest of the map empty

[proud gorge]

Would of been nice

If only

[reef bough]

128 breakthrough was just chaos

lol

[proud gorge]

128 on St Quentin scar

Oh god the CQC would be awful

[grizzled whale]

now get him to mastery 500

[reef bough]

meanwhile PS2 has 6000 players on a map

[west raft]

Brusilov offensive operation would've been nuts

[proud gorge]

I know just have lots of Russians charging

[reef bough]

so i just wouldnt play the game then

just sit afk lol

[simple reef]

BT 128 was the only reason I played.

Playtime dropped off a cliff when it got removed.

[grizzled whale]

get mackay to mastery 500

im ~200 kills away

[reef bough]

then you get dozer to 500

[full burrow]

yeah I dont rly want to play without cq 64

no more portal featured decent conquest either

[reef bough]

I think I am only 1 on mckay i havent really used him yet

[proud gorge]

I never touched conquest once BF1 and V showed me grand operations/Breakthrew and shock operations

[full burrow]

Chainlink Conquest doesnt even have the visual indicators of points being linked and you can only choose from 4 specialists

and its reduced vehicles

[reef bough]

i have 29 kills in total with mckay its my least plaed lol

[proud gorge]

Just been in love with the break threw game mode

[reef bough]

i think it was only 1 match i used mackkay

[proud gorge]

Tho I do miss That one mode we had on BFV unless they return it

[full burrow]

Breakthrough it fun but theres not enough back and forth

[reef bough]

same i like bt

[proud gorge]

Frontlines

[full burrow]

just ends too fast

[reef bough]

sometimes

others it last quite a while

had several times where attackers got down to like 7 points before taking a point

[proud gorge]

@reef bough 128 frontlines for 2042

Dice am giving ideas

[reef bough]

lol

[whole lake]

Are the paik changes nice so far?

[reef bough]

the last grand ops mission i forget wi forget name

[whole lake]

I kinda got tired of the being located ping lol

[reef bough]

where you only have what you spawn in with

[proud gorge]

Describe it

[full burrow]

I havnt tried her since the new nerf but it again seems a bit extreme

her butf from 0.5s to 0.85 was too much

but 25 scan range isnt much at all

[reef bough]

the 4th day of grand ops, final stand

[proud gorge]

That only happen rarely

Only on that Norway map

[whole lake]

Seeing that change is making me want to hop on this am

[proud gorge]

On the hills

[reef bough]

The optional (day 3 draw induced) conclusion of a Grand Operation where the battles take place in a shrinking combat area and no respawns are allowed

yeah

pretty cool

[prime cairn]

Does anyone know how to unlock the 'need to know' playercard background?

[full burrow]

give back exodus conquest

[proud gorge]

When BFV came and they said you can build tow I was like oh shot this gonna like post scriptum?

Where squad leader can place down a AT gun and you have to build it

[simple reef]

About as impactful as me saying "give back 128 bt"

[proud gorge]

Nope pre placed

[simple reef]

It's not happening.

[proud gorge]

Never got my dream of using AT in a church tower

[reef bough]

free placement fortitifactions in 2042 when

[full burrow]

im in it for the long run

[proud gorge]

Ofc if squad built it it has limited ammo and needs to be rearmed

When pre placed once’s have unlimited ammo

Seems like a balance

Missed opportunity dice

[reef bough]

naval map with ships and beach invasion

with usable CIWS on ships

[proud gorge]

Only bf1 had that

Ahead of its time tbh

[reef bough]

need more CIWS

stealth helis begone

[proud gorge]

When futuristic airship

Or futuristic trench raider kit

[reef bough]

lol

[proud gorge]

Last 2 games where ahead of there time even tho 2042 is fun it’s just

Bland

Ohhh funny tornadoes

[reef bough]

well

[proud gorge]

Ohhhh I can go flying

[reef bough]

bfv had good multiplayer but awful campaign

[boreal widget]

so how's the game recently

haven't checked it in months

[reef bough]

decent rn

[visual horizon]

good

[proud gorge]

If they made campaign somewhat decent then would of fun

[reef bough]

just need more counters to stealth helis

[proud gorge]

Last tiger was the good one tbh

[fossil trench]

Not if you’re a paik main lol

[slate meadow]

lol did they nerf her wallhacks?

[fossil trench]

Yeah heavily

[whole lake]

I want to play new map without being seen all the time lol

[slate meadow]

did they make borris turret good again yet?

[proud gorge]

When Liz gonna feel strong

Her ATGM just weak

[reef bough]

yeah

hits planes and scracthes them

[proud gorge]

Or least change it where it’s assist cause that’s all I can get with that fucking thing

[reef bough]

just give him the sentry gun from TF2

[foggy halo]

Her ammo refills quickly so no

[proud gorge]

Talking about dmg

2 shot a recon car

[foggy halo]

more ammo more damage

[boreal widget]

I thought Boris turret would function like the new specialist Crawford at first

[proud gorge]

Make her ATGM do more dmg but reloads longer and ammo refills slower

Unless they want 20 Liz’s just spamming shit

[reef bough]

Yeah

Rather have more dmg longer cooldown

[boreal widget]

oh shit didn't know we have an AS Val now

my favourite gun in shooters

[reef bough]

yeah its decent

[boreal widget]

this thing is always broken from every shooters I've played

gotta grind for it I guess since I missed Season 1 entirely

[reef bough]

it was very good early on yeah

eva lot of people used it

[proud gorge]

Was broken when it released

[reef bough]

yea

[proud gorge]

Can snipe across the map

With hi power

[reef bough]

its the worst for sniping but still decent

was broken and mid range

at*

[boreal widget]

Val or the BSVM as the game called it has always been designed as a "short" range DMR of some sort

so I guess it's fine

[reef bough]

yeah

more used than dx7

which is semi only

[boreal widget]

dx7?

[reef bough]

svk was broken at start but havent seen anyone use it for a good while

[proud gorge]

Had a tryhard Piek with a DM7 just destroy most my team on the new map

[boreal widget]

I forgot what that thing is

gotta google

[proud gorge]

Until she realized the whole team was bots

Since server was empty

[boreal widget]

DM7 looks cool as shit but that thing sucks, at least from the early days

[reef bough]

dm7 yeah

[boreal widget]

is it still sucks now?

[reef bough]

its alright imo, nothing special

svk was much better ealry on

[proud gorge]

Just spam it with close combat rounds

On the new map

[reef bough]

meanwhile vcar is not used much

[proud gorge]

vcar just gone

[reef bough]

yeah

not really any reason to pick it anyway

[proud gorge]

I only play 2042 to get the weekly missions done and get my free guns and gadget

Then play Battlefield 1 until season 3

[boreal widget]

that thing is probably used more in Ukraine rn compared to BF2042

[proud gorge]

[whole lake]

Too far lol

[proud gorge]

Dice employ reaction to this message after he try his hardest to make a gun

To get destroyed by Tuna

[boreal widget]

nah like I ain't joking, the Keltec company sent a ton of these to Ukraine as supplies

I thought it was a fictional gun

[proud gorge]

Tuna stop destroying dice man

They trying there hardest

[boreal widget]

I think it has a cool function irl

you can fold it into sth really small

[simple reef]

Yeah, fuck Lis too.

[boreal widget]

probably just make it a secondary in game or sth since no one ever use the thing

[grizzled whale]

Mackay is 1000% the best specialist in the game for stranded

[uncut bay]

mackay needs fixing

so does dozer

[grizzled whale]

Why does mackay need fixing

Hes perfect

[dire coral]

My brother said crawford looks like andrew tate and now i cant unsee it

[fervent grotto]

Mackay is peak male performance

[grizzled whale]

Fr fr

[uncut bay]

they're both crazy selfish when compared to the other specialists, literally anti teamwork. Gadgets should be reworked to better benefit the team, or at least encourage teamwork

[severe willow]

guys what should i do when bf 2042 starts but being stuck in a black screen and when i close it it says its just running

[grizzled whale]

Lol no

[arctic grove]

Its been all over reddit too, You all in this channel started that meme.

[grizzled whale]

Theres should always be the option to play solo, and have a specialist that compliments that is great

[uncut bay]

task manager

[boreal widget]

with the way MacKay works, I don't think he ever need a buff

[grizzled whale]

They already force you to be in a squad

[dire coral]

Didnt see that ever and now its just funny as hell

[grizzled whale]

Thats enough teamwork

[severe willow]

yeah but it stills says its running

[uncut bay]

you have the option to play solo with every specialist regardless

[uncut bay]

restart pc if ending process doesn't work

[boreal widget]

unless they make teammates can somehow grab onto MacKay and he can grapple onto shit.

[grizzled whale]

Mackay can get into hard to reach spots to put spawn beacons

He csn get high up to spot enemies or keep them away from objectives

You can be a teamplayer as mackay

[full burrow]

give back exdodus conquest you honourless thieves

[grizzled whale]

Just not in a way that angel or falck do

[uncut bay]

yeah i talked about it months ago, grapple should either be replaced with a deployable zipline or have some other tweak to make him more team oriented. Dozer should go without saying, but dice literally encourages dozer players to run into the enemy for the mastery, so that should def be changed for damage blocked or something like that

[arctic grove]

Casper Mastery is bugged, what can I do?

[grizzled whale]

No, the grapple should stay the way it is

[fervent grotto]

Mackay can already be used for teamwork. People play falck like a solo character. Changing the character to be more team focused doesn’t change the people who play the character.

[full burrow]

mackay should get a tiny bit more grapple range but a much higher cooldown to balance

cos right now its just too good for moving around quickly

[grizzled whale]

If they remove mackays grapple i will quit the game

[boreal widget]

MacKay in BF2042 makes me paranoid since It makes me check for spots that wouldn't normally have enemies in other games.

[grizzled whale]

Good

I haunt your dreams

[boreal widget]

I'll eat your liver

[grizzled whale]

Gonna hit mastery 500 today

[uncut bay]

but it does encourage it. People can play selfishly and selflessly with anybody, but mackay and dozer stand out as the two most selfish specialists in terms of gadget and mastery (dozer)

[grizzled whale]

You will get alcohol poisoning

[boreal widget]

damn

[grizzled whale]

Which doesnt matter at all

Theres barely any teamplay in the game as is

Mackay and dozer are some of the only balanced specialists, leave them be

[fervent grotto]

Yea the only team play is people reviving

[full burrow]

everyone/everything can be used for teamplay or for solo benefit, the bigger factor in that is you

As mackay I can grapple up to the one enemy camping in a hidden spot on the flag so my whole team doesnt have to run around the long way looking for him

[slate needle]

who cares if dozer plays selfishly

noooo all 6 dozer players

[uncut bay]

lol

[fervent grotto]

Exactly

[sweet barn]

did new bp start yet?

[full burrow]

dozer should resupply ammo to teammates behind him based on the damage the shield is absorbing

it can be nice to push behind a friendly doser

[grizzled whale]

Mackay should get 100xp for every meter traveled with the grapple

Balanced af

[full burrow]

lol

mackay travel kinda op

so such a quick grapple recharge I basically just spam it for faster movement and il still probably have it by the time I can use it to actually get to a certain spot

[safe inlet]

I think Dozer is great in teamplay, Mackey is mid for it

But Dozer can be a dangerous tool when combined with Irish, for example

[grizzled whale]

It doesnt rechsrge that fast

[safe inlet]

In the new map

[grizzled whale]

Its like a solid 10 seconds

[full burrow]

xD

[grizzled whale]

And you have to pull it out

[uncut bay]

yeah he's definitely higher up than mackay, my only issue with him is that the mastery of requiring kills is dumb

instead of it being damage blocked or something similar

[safe inlet]

It’s funny but incredibly hard, who wants to do that grind when no one even pushes with your shield anyway

[full burrow]

Mackay allows me to revive squad mates it would otherwise be unfeasable going for

[safe inlet]

You’re just guaranteed to die trying to get most of the kills unless you just sit and deflect

[uncut bay]

yep

the fact that you get nothing for blocking damage is an issue

[safe inlet]

Though, with a coordinated squad, I can see it being much easier

[full burrow]

to be fair the shield is useful for some maps so you dont die running the stupid distance between points

[safe inlet]

I mean you can get kills

[fossil trench]

Are the portal guns any good?

[safe inlet]

Not that it’s easy

M60 is meh to me

[fossil trench]

I’ve only heard negatively about them lol

[safe inlet]

M16 is fun

It shreds in full auto

Better than smgs in CQC imo

[gloomy mason]

how much time will it take to unlock the new lmg

[full burrow]

stat wise the m16 looks worse than the current guns I think

but I dont know, are the portal weapons supposed to be balanced?

[safe inlet]

A few matches of Breakthrough likely

[grizzled whale]

Took me about 18 seconds

[uncut bay]

yeah getting kills isn't the end of the world but it's a 180 against what dozer is meant for, staying with the team and shielding them. Instead they encourage running into the enemy for whatever reason

[full burrow]

or are they intentionally weaker but just there as options

[safe inlet]

Big brain gameplay

[gloomy mason]

getting to lvl 30+ battle pass only takes a few breakthrough matches?

[grizzled whale]

No, takes a lot more

[safe inlet]

Oh I thought you meant M60

[fossil trench]

No he’s talking about buying tiers

[safe inlet]

Im not even at level 30

I want to be

Im told the Avancys is a lot of fun

[uncut bay]

it looks really nice

i want it

[arctic grove]

Can someone help me, I played 4 Breaktrough, I spotted around 600 people and that doesn't count to Casper Tier, there are still as many as there were.

[fervent grotto]

It kinda looks like a smaller version of the RAAL from Mw

[visual horizon]

get these fucking laser-tag lights off of my character

[silk surge]

Idk why people are complaining about AM40 'being bad'. I love it. It's like a smaller M5.

[uncut bay]

it's very fun once you get the hang of it

can't wait for the drum mag

[ancient peak]

For some reason I’ve met the requirements for the extended hi-power on the AM40 but it’s still locked. I’m guessing I need to get another mastery level to get it to unlock?

[uncut bay]

yes that seems to be the fix for now

[still vault]

Stock AM40 is fine, not fantastic but I expect it to get better when I get some unlocks. For now I'm playing other weapons to unlock the vault thingies

[silk surge]

Also, why are people complaining about the M16? Because of the recoil? That gun deletes people with full auto.

[silk surge]

I just unlocked the supressed mag, which seems to be the first one with 30 bullets instead of 20. I think this is going to be my main weapon from now on.

[fossil trench]

Solo?

You have to play with real people to get T1s

[arctic grove]

I played with real people

[fossil trench]

You used the drone?

[arctic grove]

Yes

Whole time

[fossil trench]

Might just be a bug then. Stats don’t update immediately for some reason

[silk surge]

Man, there are so few Paiks running around pre-nerf. Feels nice not to have "location scanned" spammed all the time.

[visual horizon]

i hate the lights on the character models, absolutely sick of them, i love everything else about this game but those lights suck

[silk surge]

Yeah, but they're necessary because of the fact that both teams are playing as the same characters.

Kinda makes it feel like laser-tag if you pay too much attention to the light vests.

[fossil trench]

This ^

[vocal adder]

Once you learn that gun its a beastly weapon it shreds

[silk surge]

I love it. It's an amazing skill-cannon. I got a 70-11 game with it.

[visual horizon]

i don't like it though, not because of the aesthetic but because of the tactics they prevent, sticking to darker areas has no advantage like in every shooter previously

plus, there's always a bright red name and symbol above their heads anyway

[silk surge]

Tbh, people can be pretty damn invisible at times.

[visual horizon]

it's like the playerbase has become legally blind after BFV

but visibility wasn't an issue in BFV, or at least, i never had any problems

this is because of that

[silk surge]

Visibility was a massive issue in BFV lol

[visual horizon]

i never saw it, i even turned off player illumination

[silk surge]

Especially on maps like Devastation.

[visual horizon]

again, i saw enemies as clearly in BFV as i do in 2042 and BF1

idk, i just don't like this weird LED lighting on our soldiers, i feel it's unecessary

removes the point of camoflage too

[uncut bay]

oh man the am40 with drum mag shreds

so fun

[visual horizon]

and also, if visibility was an issue in BFV, i liked it because it meant i actually had to use my eyes and not rely on a big, fat, red player name above their head

[smoky solstice]

Also you get spotted in this game so much its annoying lol

[visual horizon]

2042? yeah, i agree

the name above players' heads appears too often

literally across the map

[silk surge]

While we're on the subject, I hate that the spotting dot often appears through walls.

[smoky solstice]

Yeah Paik and Casper are a huge change to Battlefield imo. I kinda miss the spotting from Bf4 when you press Q personally I dunno how you guys feel about that

[visual horizon]

yeah, but like- with spotting being too easy it automatically nerfs Recon roles like Paik and Casper, even Rao

[full burrow]

have they rolled out the hotfix yet?

[silk surge]

Ah yes. The finger pointing. I think they got rid of that in BFV/2042 to make sure that recons are the ones who do the spotting.

[tacit sphinx]

the whole “you literally don’t need anything to 3d spot someone you can just press a button and spot whoever in your vision” was not good lol

[smoky solstice]

That is very true lol

[silk surge]

Yeah, like 10 hours ago I think. There are like 90% less Paiks in lobbies now.

[visual horizon]

preach

[smoky solstice]

Yeah your right I guess my nostalgia blinds me 😂

[full burrow]

no not that one

the one that adds Exodus Conquest back into the game because without it this shit is unplayable

[visual horizon]

this new ping system is better, targets move and your allies need to take that into account

[tacit sphinx]

spotting is still pretty prevalent in 2042 and bfv but you actually have to do something to spot them, be it use some gadget or an action like suppressing them

[silk surge]

Wait was that a bug? Exodus CQ was supposed to be in the game?

[smoky solstice]

the flares in BF5 I used like 95 percent of the time

[smoky solstice]

I think it will come back when the 24/7 playlist goes

Could be wrong i'm not sure

[silk surge]

But honestly, Stranded became 1000x more playable after they nerfed Paik. I went from hating that map to, 'eh its okay'.

[uncut bay]

must've really hated it

[silk surge]

The netcode seems to have improved as well now.

[smoky solstice]

I like it for Breakthrough alot but not Conquest

I have started to hate conquest since 2042 came out. I used to only play that in all the other games

[uncut bay]

opposite for me, bt was fun at first but gets old, just dying from everywhere and hardy getting to shoot anyone because of all the smokes

[smoky solstice]

I noticed that as well

[silk surge]

The 24/7 playlist will probably stay the entire season, they will most likely add the reworked maps to that playlist.

It would be funny if the severe netcode issues at launch was specifically caused by Paiks spamming their ability.

[smoky solstice]

I think for me its just 128 players is just too much for my taste. I will give it a go again once exodus comes back

[arctic grove]

a lot of people enjoy the Chaos with 128 players

Have you tried HZ?

[simple reef]

I love Hazard Zone.

[full burrow]

less of a bug and more of a mentally challenged dev team

[smoky solstice]

Nah I have not played that yet.

[full burrow]

so stupid to remove exodus conquest its the bread and butter for many people

[uncut bay]

yeah exodus cq should just become default tbh

no point separating them

[simple reef]

I'm now T3 with EBAA Wildcat. 720 kills/assists in 2 days.

[arctic grove]

You should try it if you don’t like the lobby size at 128

[full burrow]

and also doesnt matter how you justify it but right now BOTH conquest are 128 and BOTH breakthrough are 64

where is the fucking logic in that

[simple reef]

You also have to actually work with your team in HZ.

[full burrow]

people are clearly split between liking 64 or 128 versions of their preffered game mode

so instead they just take the choice away?

[uncut bay]

exodus 64 and exodus 128

[silk surge]

Welcome to live-service

[simple reef]

I like how BT 128 was apparently removed to consolidate the playerbase a bit more but we have 3-4 versions of Conquest lol.

[full burrow]

Live-service were we will ignore most things

[simple reef]

Just bring back 128 BT.

[full burrow]

even worse the chainlink conquest they fucked up

I loved chainlink in bf4

they didnt even add visual indicators of the flags beings linked

less vehicles and limited to 4 specialists, wtf

[silk surge]

Mostly because 128p BT was a clusterfuck that was impossible to balance.

[simple reef]

Much better than what it is now.

BT is a snoozefest.

[silk surge]

I mean, you still have SquidG Rush and stuff if you want a 128p meatgrinder.

[simple reef]

128 Rush is the only reason I still play.

Squid G's sucks, though.

[gloomy wyvern]

Tru

[simple reef]

Now 777.

Seriously, if you wanna get a Vehicle T1'D, just farm Repair and Passenger assists. 👍🏾

It's gonna be a slog otherwise.

[gloomy wyvern]

I don't main vehicle

[simple reef]

You have to if you want a T1.

[devout meadow]

I feel like wanting to mod the specialist into Rico Rodriguez from Just Cause💀

[gloomy wyvern]

I main being a supportive member by actually having boots on ground

[grizzled whale]

if you get it by farming assists that T1 badge is gonna haunt you

Y̴̽̚ỏ̶͝u̷͗̚ ̵́͂d̵̍̍ó̴̑n̵͂͝t̶̆͝ ̵̿̃d̸̎̒ĕ̵̏s̵͘͜ë̷̛r̷͐̃v̵̈́̄e̵̓̕ ̵͆͌m̶̔̇ē̶͇,̸͋̋ ̸̈̾y̶̒̽ô̴͑u̷͋͆ ̵͌͛t̵́͐o̶̎͘ò̶̏k̵̍͗ ̵́͌á̵̎ ̷̎̃s̵̾̾h̶͖͗ǒ̶̈́r̵̽̽t̵̐̅c̶̓̓ȗ̷͒t̴͊̀ ̴̏͒ẗ̷́̉ȏ̵̈́ ̴͐̒g̸̛͘e̷̾̃t̷̐͝ ̸͌̾m̸̈́͠e̵͊

also when did they change it to assists

[simple reef]

I don't care lol. I'm supporting the vehicle by repairing it non-stop when they've got like 10 TGM's being fired at the same time.

[grizzled whale]

when i got it it was only kills

[gloomy wyvern]

#500058972234055710

[grizzled whale]

you aint a mod

also tell me which rule i broke

[gloomy wyvern]

4

[grizzled whale]

which part

[simple reef]

Been like this since launch.

[gloomy wyvern]

Do not bypass filter

[grizzled whale]

its not a filter bypass kek

[grizzled whale]

no it wasnt

[simple reef]

It literally has.

[gloomy wyvern]

It's not English either....aka standard font

[grizzled whale]

its english

does the rule say anything about fonts?

[gloomy wyvern]

Says no bypassing, you used fonts not supported

[grizzled whale]

lol

if you dont know the rules dont try to enforce them

its not bypassing anything

no banned words were used

its english

rule says nothing about not being allowed to use a different font

take it to modmail if you want to report me

[simple reef]

Stop arguing over pointless shit.

[royal osprey]

🤓 💢 "No special fonts!"

[gloomy wyvern]

"You dont deserve me, you took a shortcut to get me" - @still vault is zalgo supported here?

[grizzled whale]

modmail

Dont ping mods

you broke rule 9

[royal osprey]

8 and 9 technically.

[grizzled whale]

true

[simple reef]

^

[grizzled whale]

who?

[simple reef]

All of you. You're being pedantic.

[grizzled whale]

asked

[simple reef]

Are you 12?

[grizzled whale]

no, discord is 13+

[simple reef]

Ah, so you must be in violation of their TOS then.

[grizzled whale]

Not even close

[simple reef]

I'll be impressed if you're above 13.

Well, no, moreso shocked.

[grizzled whale]

Cringe

[simple reef]

You're literally the most annoying person in the server who adds nothing but obnoxious talking points to discussion, shut the fuck up. 😭

[uncut bay]

bold from you

[grizzled whale]

rude

[simple reef]

I care?

[gloomy wyvern]

"Not a mod" - @grizzled whale

[royal osprey]

If you do not like what is being discussed, you are free to inject a new topic at any given moment.
Such as, EAC seems to have been fixed by the resent patch.

[still vault]

If you use it to circumvent the filter then no. A single for fun sentence once in a blue moon - meh, don't care. People constantly writing it disrupting the chat and making it unreadable is bad.

[grizzled whale]

ironic innit

[simple reef]

How long did this take you to think of?

I'm asking because of how creative that response is. I don't think I've ever heard that used as a comeback before. To anything.

[still vault]

We prefer modmail, but if there is an emergency in chat it is not the end of the world.

[uncut bay]

probably more than it takes you to copy paste your map complaints

[grizzled whale]

true

but i wouldnt call this an emergency

[simple reef]

Yeesh, you aren't very smart then, right?

[still vault]

also true

[simple reef]

Copy-pasting takes, like... 2 seconds.

[grizzled whale]

different font scawy

[uncut bay]

slow typer aren't you

must be a while to find ctrl and v

[gloomy wyvern]

Arguments are fun to read

[simple reef]

Not particularly.

[simple reef]

I know, right? Especially when the person you're arguing with is coming up with some of the most basic shit ever.

[still vault]

Here look at this while you wait

[simple reef]

Nah, still getting booted upon activating ASUS syncing services.

[grizzled whale]

we are gonna need a few more

[still vault]

[grizzled whale]

thanks

[royal osprey]

It's one of those cases where I don't know if I should blame Asus or DICE. I would hate on both I think.

[gloomy wyvern]

Y u looking to buy one?

[grizzled whale]

trading is against the rules

[still vault]

Motherboard software is the worst. Don't install it. It's all utter crap. Want RGB? Don't let your motherboard have anything to do with it.

[simple reef]

EAC is really not needed unless you aren't a big publisher. Activision's Ricochet is much better than whatever EAC claims to be.

It's kernel-level, but if you're not some basic script kiddie, it's so easy to bypass.

[simple reef]

Nah, I don't, I have ASUS stuff on an alternate rig.

Just for testing. iCUE controls all my stuff in my main PC.

[gloomy wyvern]

Asus sadly has too much bloatware

[royal osprey]

It's so difficult to understand how giant fabs can't make a program. Literally makes the whole thing, mobo, drivers, software.

And they can't make a functinal windows app.

[simple reef]

Yeah, it sucks. I mostly use that other PC for small server management, which is a pain lol.

[still vault]

I once complained to ASUS about all the bugs. They just told me they were a hardware company and not a software company and to suck it up. So I did, and never bought anything ASUS again.

[gloomy mason]

oh cool i unlocked aek-971

[simple reef]

Switch to Gigabyte. Much better.

Just the essentials.

[royal osprey]

last time I had an Asus mobo I ran it through RMA 3 or 4 times. Always the same issue.

It was also meant to have a game code, support gave me 4 new ones since none worked.
I asked the games support, and all keys were used 6+ months before I got them.

[nova idol]

Anyone else not able to get past connecting to online services

[still vault]

Gigabyte is just as bad software. Does make some great hardware but also some product skews that just suck quality wise, Asus has the same.
Currently use MSI, their software also such, not as bad though, but when I don't use the software this board has been fine.

[royal osprey]

Oh, EAC is still broken. I got to finish a game since I joined at the last minute, next game booted me before anyone could load in. GG

[zinc sand]

Can confirm. My basic board is doing its job, only was like 85 bucks too! B550M

[still vault]

EAC is not broken, it's buggy. It's rarely something which can't be fixed by some obscure fix.

[royal osprey]

Currently on a Gigabyte board my self, the software is slow as hell. But it does the job eventually.

[simple reef]

2042's implementation of EAC is pretty bad compared to other games I've seen utilise the tech before. Some games implement EAC and actually fix what they intend to fix and work fine, others don't really fix anything and instead cause more issues.

[zinc sand]

And you have to single click everything in the Gigabyte UI. Drives me nuts

[royal osprey]

Problem with obscure fixes is that they are only found by large communities. This EAC issue has persisted since launch, and there is no obscure post to find.

[still vault]

The nature of anti cheat is just that it is very prone to bugs. One game can work fine and the other wont, due to some obscure driver or background service.

[simple reef]

Never had a problem with Fall Guys' implementation of EAC on Steam after, like... 64 hours of playtime.

[elder patrol]

Spaghet

[still vault]

Do you have a post about your issue on Answers HQ? If you do you can DM me the link and I can take a look.

[royal osprey]

Not yet, I started encountering this with the content update. Been trying to find a fix my self so far.

[zinc sand]

Has blowing EAC away and reinstalling helped? If thru steam you can delete and then validate files.

[simple reef]

He's tried.

[zinc sand]

Roger

[still vault]

If you have been through the basics: start the game/origin/steam by manually running as administrator, repair/verify files, uninstall then reinstall, running EAC installer from 2042 directory. Then a post on AHQ might be an idea.

I've been meaning to write an EAC guide to compliment my Punkbuster guide at some point. Just never got around to it.

[royal osprey]

Un-installing and reinstalling doesn't work, repairing doesn't work. Validate ALWAYS find 2 files missing, that it supposedly reacquires.
I went through services and stopped every service I could imagine to be problematic, still no dice.

[harsh marsh]

I faced the problem myself I first went to task manager and ended Origin and logged in again and it worked fine for me

[simple reef]

Any way you can find those 2 files?

[still vault]

If there is always 2 missing files you might want to run a CHKDSK on all the relevant drives before reinstalling again.

Could be file system corruption.

[zinc sand]

Not a bad call there, if you have a second drive, could try moving the game as well. No sure if EAC follows the main game files however

[royal osprey]

It's an SSD that has not shown any issues so far, it's like 1 year old.

[simple reef]

Weird request, but try running the BF2042 .exe directly from your computer (not Steam, search your directory) and see if the system informs you of any errors, missing .dll's or script check errors.

Had to do that for a few games refusing to run.

Or had EAC issues.

[still vault]

File system corruption it not necessarily caused by a drive going bad. Could happen just from the computer not being closed correctly.

[harsh marsh]

the server is very high now so obvious reasons is that ping is not responding maybe trying a new thing like check ping in dice server in the net if they are working maybe the temporary files are slowing you down ctrl+r = open run in windows and in checkbox write as %temp% maybe clearing the temporary files might help just an idea I am just a noob eager to learn from every one in here

[zinc sand]

In looking at my EAC dir.. I show 26 files over 3 folders, found within my BF 2042 main folder

On Win 11 Pro fwiw

[grizzled whale]

so close

yet so far away

[simple reef]

@royal osprey May wanna do this yourself, cross-reference files.

[slate meadow]

It's ez pz to do play breakthrough and hope you play as a defender people so focuses on the point they don't look up 😂

[harsh marsh]

restarting the pc or using IObit uninstaller to uninstall the game completely and then reinstall the game please don't forget to remove EA from registry too

[grizzled whale]

its more than 14,000 kills from above

[harsh marsh]

or in steam as my learned friend says check for files

it would locate all the local files in C drive and then just follow instructions on the monitor

[grizzled whale]

bro why do i keep getting kicked back to the menu

[still vault]

skill issue

[vocal adder]

Sweat

[slate meadow]

22 kills from height per game it's only 638 games

[grizzled whale]

ive done 891

[slate meadow]

And still not got it ?

[grizzled whale]

kek

[severe girder]

The new pistol is godly

[grizzled whale]

of all the people you can accuse of cheating

[severe girder]

Already maxed it

[grizzled whale]

t1 it

now

within 5 minutes

[severe girder]

Huh

[vocal adder]

Anyone feels like they need to tweak the new map on breakthrough ?

[severe girder]

Nah

[slate meadow]

You feel like you need to tweak?

[severe girder]

Maybe the top side for attackers

[grizzled whale]

cope

who paid you to say that

[hexed mango]

rip paik, reddit was mad

[grizzled whale]

also

milestone

[still vault]

!!r3 Just a friendly reminder about our no naming and shaming policy

!!r4

[tender pendant]

Rule 4 Do not bypass the filter, disrupt voice/text channels, impersonate users, abuse spoiler tags, discuss cheats, post cheat websites/exploits, name & shame & discuss lawsuits/legal action.

[vocal adder]

I just noticed that the new dozer skin doesn't have that massive thing around his neck i hope we get outfits that doesn't have his EOD suit

Would be nice to have a option to take that top part of the neck off on dozer i don't know what you would call it haha

[lunar ravine]

Anyone know if you can change squads ?

[uncut bay]

pretty sure they still haven't added that

[vocal adder]

Go scoreboard click your name change squad

[zinc sand]

On PC, when dead, you can hit ESC, right click on your name and then it will change to a random squad

[uncut bay]

oh guess they did

[edgy oriole]

its been in the game since release

(i think)

[vocal adder]

It has yes

[severe girder]

Wym?

[zinc sand]

You have to read the context menu in bottom right to see that is it an option

BF4 was easier to tell you could switch

[zinc sand]

Check #direct-communication

They toned down Paiks spotting shenanigans

[severe girder]

She wasn't annoying lol

[zinc sand]

I loved getting spotted 6 times while lying dead tbh.. I was like bruh.. I'm dying !

[severe girder]

I maxed her and she's really not broken

[lunar ravine]

thx for the help guys

[severe girder]

Mackay goated as well

[zinc sand]

YW

Didn't bug me much, but I get it

[tame cobalt]

Hot take: getting a reworked map is better than getting a new map

Quality>quantity

If the QUALITY is high enough, ~11 maps would be enough quantity to keep the game interesting for a very, very long time

[mystic holly]

Have anyone unlock Active protection system or missile launcher for new vehicle that EBLC-RAM

[royal osprey]

Disk is fine. Ran steam and origin as admin. Did the earlier EAC and game repair, as admin, launched the game exe directly.
still the exact same error.

[mystic holly]

got all the kill but and mastery 5 but it still wont unlock

[long brook]

I'm a MacKay main, but literally has the least intrusive gadget. His power is verticality

[still vault]

Anything in EventViewer at the exact time as it crashes?

[royal osprey]

It doesn't crash so no log. I get booted from game by EAC.

It takes me to main menu.

[latent canyon]

Agreed ppl rlly makin a big deal off 4 Maps per dlc but Lets be Honest only a few maps in the end ended up gettin played

[tame cobalt]

facts

[hexed mango]

lol fr

[still vault]

See, this would be easier for me to keep track of if there was a forum post. Last thing from me on here would be trying to play after a proper clean boot: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows-da2f9573-6eec-00ad-2f8a-a97a1807f3dd

[latent canyon]

Lookin at you op. Locker and metro Aka bf4 playerbase xD

[hexed mango]

which is why i hope reworks are good, and am fine with reworks, as long as we get more new maps like stranded, exposure, etc

also ik i said this before but the level of detail and the placement of assets on stranded and exposure is really good

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[long brook]

This is just my opinion, and I know people like specialists, but I wouldn't be mad if they got rid of all the specialist's gadgets with the exception of the grappling hook. Just give every specialist that + class system when it drops

[latent canyon]

Lowkey tho add locker dice

[hexed mango]

eh

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[edgy oriole]

bruh latency is kicking my ass today

[tame cobalt]

kaleidoscope's new area is really nice visually as well

[hexed mango]

i kinda prefer what #948574259209437264 has planned

[hexed mango]

indeed

[tame cobalt]

And orbital new runway lookin real immersive

[latent canyon]

Aight but ppl can we talk about the 200 round mag for the avancys that thing could hold 500

[tame cobalt]

I suspect stranded is so detailed mainly because of how condensed it is tho. I don't expect (nor do i want) the next maps to be that condensed in cq128

but ye exposure is also nice and that's biiiig

[calm bison]

Using bad to kill bad?

[royal osprey]

Tried that one yesterday, anything further is a windows reinstall, or uninstalling several programs. 2 things that go beyond what I am willing to do.

Beyond those 2, everything a user can do has been done. I will wait for a fix by the devs. Either they know of this issue, or it doesn't affect enough players, either way, out of my hands.

[tame cobalt]

Discarded is also really detailed tho

[severe oyster]

HAHAHA

PAIK GOT NERFED

thank GOD

[calm bison]

The day this game works properly is the day the US government isn’t going to be shit

Which is never

[tame cobalt]

And has dramatic lighting and moody art direction and shid

[calm bison]

What’s ironic about a map covered in scrap metal is that often times you feel exposed

[solid imp]

2x irony that you feel exposed but not on the map called Exposure

[tame cobalt]

[calm bison]

Also what the fuck is wrong with Lis’ eyeballs

Either she’s seen some shit or she’s doing an Alita Battle Angel impression

[tame cobalt]

3x irony that exposure has some of the biggest open fields but it never gets "open field simulator" complaints

[calm bison]

Because the actual objectives and areas connecting objectives have cover

[tame cobalt]

Good map design moment

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[calm bison]

Left click or pull trigger

[tame cobalt]

Anyone agree the valley sector is the weakest part of exposure cq128

[still vault]

what did the "chkdsk" return with? did you run it for all involved drives?

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[calm bison]

The right trigger on your controller

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[long brook]

That actually doesn't sound to bad. I would be interested to see that implemented and how it actually plays out in games

[calm bison]

They do the same thing and are in the same location

[tame cobalt]

Why does the Breakthrough UI look so low quality

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[low timber]

Lol, we won with a steam roll and still someone in chat goes

half of the team didnt get a kill, must be console players
When there was only 4 teammates with 0 kills

[calm bison]

You fail to understand how mentally handicapped some people in this game are

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[royal osprey]

No errors found on 7 separate SSD's, my one HDD is 6TB and has nothing related on it. Not going to wait 4 hours while that gets worked.

Os drive and game drive were fine, but I did all 7 drives for the fun of the sport.

[calm bison]

Listen man

I hate to sound defeatist

But there’s likely not much you can do

I’ve come to accept that with my persistence data errors

[royal osprey]

I know.

[calm bison]

Except when my router was reset

But even then

[royal osprey]

Game worked fine up to this latest content update. Tis ain my fault.

[calm bison]

Same for me

My setup worked perfectly

And the boom

Stopped working

Except it was before Update 2.0

[royal osprey]

Still I put in the work, I put in the hours. And got cancelled by EAC.

[calm bison]

This channel isn’t really known for being welcoming either

You present a problem

And sometimes it’s a light response

And other times

When presenting the fact you’ve done everything

They treat you like shit

[tame cobalt]

Stranded rework when

[calm bison]

You’ll get your rework when you fix this damn game

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

GOD DAMN. LVG only lobbies 👀

[calm bison]

At this rate it would be easier for me to buy a series s or x and get 2042 on it

[full burrow]

QQ cos I cant play exodus cq

[calm bison]

And then start fresh

I would rather start fresh and have a game that works

Than work all my life on something

Only for it to break

[royal osprey]

You'd have similar issues. I have seen console complain of being booted from a match in a similar way as me. And they don't have EAC, I think.

[calm bison]

I would complain about EAC

If I could even get past the login screen

https://tenor.com/view/trophy-frustrated-goal-mr-turner-fairly-odd-parents-gif-8888418

[tame cobalt]

[edgy oriole]

[tame cobalt]

At least it's not punkbuster

[calm bison]

NGL I though the bottom thumbnail was BF4 for a second

Also good lord what is that FPS

[edgy oriole]

nope just trash.

idk what xbox app records at

[tame cobalt]

SCAR getting solo'd by a handgun

[royal osprey]

Punkbuster actually started working when you reinstalled it. Like, consistently.

[edgy oriole]

dude my reload was done. i was just looking at the dude waiting. this shit happens to me all the time.

[calm bison]

Has your hardware like melted or something

This clip was recorded before everything went to shit

I miss those days

[royal osprey]

Let the man ride.

[calm bison]

He pulled out an RPG

You can ride

When you don’t kill the passengers

[full burrow]

seeing people for a second before they actually spawn in has been quite common for me last month or 2

[scarlet wadi]

Playing fps on console still a thing eh?

[calm bison]

I would imagine

First person shooters are still huge on console markets

[scarlet wadi]

Nicesu

I wan tu buy xbox

bcs im tired with mnk nowadays

[tame cobalt]

Anyone else think the condor looks like a huge fish

[grizzled whale]

kinda looks like a Vtol helicopter to me

[full burrow]

I think the menu looks shit without a button that says "exodus conquest"

[tame cobalt]

[grizzled whale]

we get it

you want it back

not gonna happen

[scarlet wadi]

But playing on console lobby is empty 😂🥲

[full burrow]

well this is how I play battlefield until its back

[scarlet wadi]

At least in my region

[tame cobalt]

Did u guys see the chain link mode

[grizzled whale]

you mentioned it 15 times in not even 24 hours bro

[tame cobalt]

The UI for it is pretty awful

[grizzled whale]

we get it

[calm bison]

The condor is way cooler than the hind

[full burrow]

I can have similar conversations with different people and different times

[grizzled whale]

larger target, happy wildcat noises

[calm bison]

Yeah but have you heard the noise it makes when you swap to flight from VTOL?

[grizzled whale]

you randomly saying you want it back isnt a conversation really

[full burrow]

its closer to a conversation than saying it in my head

[grizzled whale]

or

tell the devs

bringing it up 15 times a day here wont do anything

[full burrow]

yeah im hoping they see it

[onyx vault]

it'll annoy people here, for sure.

[full burrow]

and it others do the same

we might get it back sooner

[grizzled whale]

the devs arent here

[onyx vault]

whining non-specifically in the discord will accomplish nothing. If a dev shows up, maybe.

[full burrow]

what about the ea community team

[grizzled whale]

theres 2 devs that very rarely come in here, and neither of them do anything related to playlists

EA staff VERY rarely comes here

[full burrow]

do they not read stuff as part of being aware of the community

[grizzled whale]

you think they spend their day looking at discord?

they are active on the forums

[full burrow]

of course

[onyx vault]

If someone is paid to read through back-logs of discord, society is broken down beyond saving.

Or should be.

[grizzled whale]

they dont get paid to look at a community ran discord

they are active on the forums, thats what they get paid for

[split sand]

Hello guys

[grizzled whale]

iphone is shit

hi

[split sand]

How's the new season performing on last gen?

[grizzled whale]

not good

its last gen

[split sand]

No one's covering it on YouTube

Oof

[full burrow]

anyone know any good cheap coop games?

[grizzled whale]

because nobody is playing last gen

[simple reef]

No money?

[grizzled whale]

time to upgrade old man

[real pawn]

I am wtf

[grizzled whale]

i chose not to overpay for a logo

[simple reef]

You don’t. You pay for the convenience of the Apple ecosystem.

[split sand]

I feel sorry for them

Oof

[grizzled whale]

which is shit

[onyx vault]

I would not call that convenience...

[simple reef]

Not really.

[onyx vault]

At least when Google or Samsung steals my data, they don't get in my way at the same time.

[grizzled whale]

i also chose not to support such a shitty company

[grizzled whale]

Damn, so convenient, the new iphone is out so now my phone is magically a lot slower now!

[simple reef]

Being able to link all of your cellular devices and accessories to a single account and device and use them seamlessly across all applicable devices isn't convenient?

[grizzled whale]

glad i went iphone

[split sand]

🤣

[grizzled whale]

i can do the same with samsung

lol

[simple reef]

Not really.

[split sand]

The fact that people still argue over which phone is better is funny😂

[grizzled whale]

lol yes i can

[simple reef]

Ironic coming from someone who plays EA and DICE products.

[split sand]

Just get what you can afford and enjoy

[split sand]

Oof🤣

You went hard on that one

[grizzled whale]

$60 to a game dev VS 1000+ to a company that sues local repair stores because they could fix an iphone for 50 bucks when the apple store said it would cost 900 bucks

kinda not the same

[simple reef]

I mean, it supports the same practices.

[grizzled whale]

not even close

[simple reef]

You have directly supported the continual funnelling out of unfinished products.

You aren't brave for being a shill.

[royal osprey]

You mean to say I can pay someone to fix the game for me?

[simple reef]

Yes! EA.

[grizzled whale]

im not a shill

i just dont have false expectations

[simple reef]

With microtransactions.

[royal osprey]

I didn't see that DLC package on the website.

[grizzled whale]

everything that was advertised and promised was promised

[simple reef]

Really? I'll link it to you on Steam!

[grizzled whale]

Alpha was almost identical to Beta, which was a month before launch

if you expected the game to be much better than beta its your own fault

I got a great game i spent 500 hours in so far, so im not complaining

[simple reef]

The game is unfinished. I enjoy it, but it's unfinished.

[grizzled whale]

game isnt unfinished

[onyx vault]

Is it still "unfinished"? in any sense

I certainly agree it WAS

[grizzled whale]

everything that was promised and advertised is in the game

[simple reef]

It just kinda is, live-service games are inherently unfinished.

[grizzled whale]

was in the game at launch too

unfinished =/= being expanded upon

[onyx vault]

"finished" as understood in this way means "ready for release"

not "completed and no one will touch it again"

[grizzled whale]

oh at launch the game wasnt ready

but i still dont blame dice for anything

[simple reef]

Yeah, once again, still not how live-service games work. The majority of content they're pushing out now was finished at launch. We would've had season 1 much earlier (because it was finished) if they didn't have a myriad of bugs to fix.

[grizzled whale]

its all EA

[grizzled whale]

its exactly how live services work

They release new content whenever they want

you dont know when they finished it

[simple reef]

No, DICE are the developers. Deadlines have to be met. If they can't meet them in any sort of reasonable manner, that's on them.

EA simply published the game.

[grizzled whale]

True, but false

[onyx vault]

Notoriously, EA forces deadlines.

They don't have to be possible.

Which like... same with development in most companies.

[simple reef]

Yeah, kinda how games work. When you're on a company's payroll, you're expected to work in a manner that's going to net them a return for paying you?

[grizzled whale]

EA forced dice to make a BR game in 3 years time.
Then after a year/year and a half they scrapped that idea, and told dice to start again but make a normal BF game.
Dice wanted atleast another year of development time, but EA said fuck it we want money now

thats why theres specialist

thats why the maps are so huge but barren, they were supposed to be battleroyal maps

Battlefield 5 was in development for 8 years

2042 for 2 at most

[jaunty fjord]

Specialist should not appear in 2042

Is a tragic

[grizzled whale]

EA fucked up big time by pushing the game for release and dice knew it wasnt even close to ready

[onyx vault]

CAN WE SHUT UP ABOUT SPECIALISTS, PLEASE.

[grizzled whale]

Aka

Blame EA , not Dice

[still vault]

No. Also chill with the yelling.

[grizzled whale]

deadlines should be met yes

[simple reef]

Nah, EA aren't at fault. DICE haven't been great in a while.

[jaunty fjord]

The fundamental problem is that EA executives are eager to make money

[onyx vault]

Apologies, just frustrated with the constant derailing with the specialist complaints.

[grizzled whale]

But when your publisher sets impossible deadlines its not weird the product turns out less than great

[hexed gate]

man said chill with the yelling when this is a chat for typing

[grizzled whale]

I take it you didnt read ANYTHING i just said

most experienced devs are gone

[fervent grotto]

Dude people are having a conversation. It’s not a big deal

[grizzled whale]

They got at most 1/4th development time of the average battlefield game
Covid happened

EA refused to delay(aside from one month)

and you still think dice is at fault?

lol

[fervent grotto]

I don’t think EA is blameless in making games worse, but 2042 wasn’t just EAs fault. In fact I think DICE was the main problem.

[hexed gate]

they made a cod reskin

[grizzled whale]

The inexperience of dice is part of it, but EA should have given them longer exactly because of that

[hexed gate]

[grizzled whale]

EA expected an inexperienced dev team to make a full battlefield game with 1/4th of the time during covid

[simple reef]

Also, these maps aren't anywhere near big enough for BR lol.

That theory is terrible.

[grizzled whale]

yes the budget is a lot higher

its not a theory, its a fact

[fervent grotto]

Also, Covid is not relevant in this. They announced this game in June of 2021. After the main Covid incident. They could’ve just not announced the game. But yet, they still did. That gives them a time crunch to try and meet.

[simple reef]

Really? Has it been confirmed by EA or DICE officially?

[jaunty fjord]

Specialist is really too difficult to balance the current DICE, and DICE can only blindly weaken some specialist

[simple reef]

If so, it isn't a fact.

[thorny orchid]

How can you say a fact with no proof

[grizzled whale]

the budget might be higher, but throwing money at a sinking ship isnt gonna make it float again

[grizzled whale]

it was mentioned in a couple interviews around launch

[thorny orchid]

no it wasnt

[simple reef]

No it wasn't lol.

[grizzled whale]

But even if you disregard the battleroyal aspect

[simple reef]

Stop lying.

[grizzled whale]

Lol

[thorny orchid]

lie for no reason 💀

[grizzled whale]

you really are too ignorant to discuss things with

Anyway

[thorny orchid]

lmao

[simple reef]

It’s because he's too fragile to accept that DICE are entirely at fault for this game gameplay-wise.

[grizzled whale]

Even if you disregard the battleroyal aspect of the game

[simple reef]

I want you to post the interview.

Otherwise, it's bullshit.

[grizzled whale]

They were forced to make a full battlefield game in 3 years time, with an inexperienced team during covid, then refused to delay when asked for more time

Dice is not at fault

[simple reef]

They are, as they are the developers?

[jaunty fjord]

If 2042 really can't be saved, I just hope that the next generation will make good class and good maps

[simple reef]

And not EA?

[grizzled whale]

what job do you have

[simple reef]

I work in data analytics.

[onyx vault]

Jesus, yeah, do you work for people?

[thorny orchid]

The heads at dice were at fault as you can see when the game launched they got fired and got new heads like vince zampella

[onyx vault]

Your responses sound like something out of sociopathic VPs and CEOs.

[simple reef]

I just noticed what your PFP is.

I rate it.

[grizzled whale]

if your boss asks you to do a full year of work in a week and you cant do it, is it your fault?

[calm bison]

Hardline 2 hype train pls

[grizzled whale]

or your bosses fault for setting an impossible deadline?

[simple reef]

Completely different circumstances. You're strawmanning.

[grizzled whale]

not at all

[thorny orchid]

The heads at dice hold chairman at EA so they have sole responsibility in the Battlefield franchise. They decide when the game is launched. Vince zampella decides when the next bf is launched

[grizzled whale]

Dice was given an impossible task by EA

so who is at fault?

[simple reef]

Not a week compared to a year?

[arctic grove]

LMAO PAIK GOT NERFED SOOO BAD

[thorny orchid]

The heads at dice

[grizzled whale]

no