battlefield-2042

[hexed mango]

@ripe hedge confirm

[tidal hare]

ah yes keltec

[fiery shoal]

ehhh in regards to infantry play, if i had to say in an arbitrary number way, just shooting people will influence 70%, gadgets maybe 20% and the rest split between other factors

[hexed mango]

better comparison image

[next onyx]

Hmm..

[hexed mango]

the reload on this thing is fucking jacked

[next onyx]

It kinda looks like a TMP 9 but it's not either.

[inner roost]

Look at the P50 with the extended stock, its 100% match of the battleifeld model

[hexed mango]

its like a mix between a PP bizon and a p90

[next onyx]

It reminds me of the PDW from cod.

Not the PDW57 but the side arm variant.

[inner roost]

Really cool sidearm if this is it

[regal sphinx]

Is it true, that the Vault Weapons won't have any skins? 🤔

I would find that most unfortunate! 😔

[hexed mango]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aGJ9R2

[bronze stirrup]

auto conversion?

[hexed mango]

(not battlefield official artwork)

[wide shore]

She’s so beautiful

[next onyx]

Oh God if they're due to bring back the Spas 12 they better make sure we can use the Dino charm on it.

[river spear]

They should put some art work for the guns

[bronze stirrup]

Or wait that thing is top ejecting

[river spear]

And make graphics better

[bronze stirrup]

Probably cant be converted

[inner roost]

Graphics are honestly fine

[bronze stirrup]

full auto pistol when

[tidal hare]

no

[bronze stirrup]

mald

[tidal hare]

dice can we get a obrez type pistol

[jade hill]

What game is that

[next onyx]

Lis will be a bit awkward since you can only run mines or the eod bot haha.

[wide shore]

2042

[jade hill]

Oh portal

[frigid cairn]

full auto P50 is definitely 1 of the 3 S2 weapons. my hope for the other two are MTAR and an LMG, maybe an M27 or updated RPK?

[solar tinsel]

TGM + Mines will be a pretty excellent anti vehicle loadout though

[hexed mango]

based on this view i think i am 99% certain this is the P50... looking at the black bar below the open barrel, seeing the back end of the magazine

[solar tinsel]

one offensive, one defensive, plus repairs

[next onyx]

Mines are more passive.

I wouldn't mind it if c5 were all class though.

[bronze stirrup]

Judging from google searches the p50 doesn't have a full auto conversion.

sadge

[jade hill]

For some reason it looks really.. . enjoyable

[frigid cairn]

video seemed like full auto

[jade hill]

Prob becuase of no hud

[solar tinsel]

I think thats way too much firepower, and again makes vehicles less threatening pushing objectives

[crimson basin]

that looked like mpx to me but I'm no gun expert

[next onyx]

It's easy to say that since this is a futuristic version. This rendition has a full auto option.

[bronze stirrup]

I'd hope atleast

[next onyx]

It's a bit too fat for an MPX.

God I would love to see the MPX.

[violet meteor]

Well saw the video. Not too shabby

[bronze stirrup]

Or just an mp5

[crimson basin]

true. maybe like a futuristic variant of it.

[violet meteor]

Ima fuck shit up with this m60

[hexed mango]

this could just be the M5, but the stock and grip look fishy
bet its just the m5 with extended barrel tho

[frigid cairn]

it's definitely a P50, you can see the charging handle and those circles in the handguard

[next onyx]

The grip.

Wtf.

[split minnow]

Can we get a F for Portal, it basically got killed now

[tidal hare]

where are those from

[next onyx]

Oh wait that's the debris.

[tidal hare]

trailer?

[hexed mango]

says who??????

[crimson basin]

F

[next onyx]

The stock is a bit thin too.

[tidal hare]

Portal is still getting content wdym killed

[crimson basin]

What even are ripple effect doing btw?

[next onyx]

A. It's a new skin for the m5.
B. New gun entirely.

[tidal hare]

HZ is killed

[hexed mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXwQknbg64A

[split minnow]

DICE. They literally didn’t confirm any new maps for Portal in season 2 which means its dead to them

[hexed mango]

cause this isnt a freaking S2 trailer

[split minnow]

What im wondering tbh

[hexed mango]

this is a development update, not a content trailer

[bronze stirrup]

Yes because they should totally prioritize on remaking old content instead of fixing the game and giving us new stuff

[hexed mango]

which is why they didnt show the entire new map or new guns (besides the portal ones)

[ripe hedge]

holy shit your name dude 😄

[violet meteor]

If you never play portal, isn't it dead to you already?

[hexed mango]

(check pings)

[hexed mango]

[ripe hedge]

no

[hexed mango]

so its not a P50

[solar tinsel]

I get the sense that Portal is leaning away from porting over additional legacy content and more going to focus on enabling community to create. It's a bit of a bummer, because I'd love to see more BF2 stuff, but I also get it - there will be community members who do awesome shit

[crimson basin]

What do you all think the new specialist will be like? Falck has health stim, Angel has ammo, new specialist will have both?

[mental cave]

man i completely forgot about this game i didn’t finish the battlepass 🤣🤣

[arctic grove]

are you guys happy with season 2 ?

[tidal hare]

yes

[hexed mango]

i think its pretty close

[tidal hare]

because some weapons are a bit too good

[split minnow]

Which is fine and all but i think they can do both as well

[hexed mango]

alex can we get a hot or cold

[tidal hare]

it is kinda a old world of tanks meme

[bronze stirrup]

I would rather get new maps than old ones

[split minnow]

Many people would get excited if we had more remastered maps coming

[frigid cairn]

it's 100% just from visuals. the circles above the hand match exactly

[solar tinsel]

yeah, I mean I just dont know if thats what they are focusing on. My guess is that theyre more focused on the NEW new content for seasons

[fiery shoal]

im hoping they make it more distinct than that, but its a bit hard to say because most things im thinking of are a bit too scifi to fit 2042

[severe igloo]

hello i got a question, i have been playing bf 4 for a very long time. but as how I'm noticing bf 4 servers are becoming less and less on PlayStation. and i was wondering if its worth for me to swap over to bf 2042 on playstation 5.

[solar tinsel]

trust me I'd prefer more legacy content too

[hexed mango]

and a bunch of other details on it, im excited now (i was before)

[solar tinsel]

but doesnt mean its gonna happen, and I dont want it to come at the cost of new content outright

[tidal hare]

yeah i cant recall other weapons with this vent layout

[hexed mango]

fr

[tidal hare]

that looks close to this

[stark ravine]

i like the new changes

[hexed mango]

any other cool guns you know of

[nocturne glacier]

regarding the performance issues with lower end hardware, i always wondered if it is possible to bring the Battlefield 2 fog of war mechanics into 2042 to reduce the number of assets being loaded at the same time and increasing performance. it would be easier to spot cheaters as well. the only downside is no more ultra range sniping which doesnt add to gameplay value anyways.

[hexed mango]

cool looking / performing that is

[bronze stirrup]

the barrel shroud gives it away yeah

[tidal hare]

but where is my zip22

i want my zip22

[hexed mango]

lol

[bronze stirrup]

I find it weird that the suppressor would be external instead of integrated though

looking at pictures of it

[frigid cairn]

the body fits a whole P90 mag so no room for a suppressor probably

[hexed mango]

i want M17 but mr caamano says no

[sharp gyro]

finally found the EE

[bronze stirrup]

suppressors will never look good on keltec lol

[hexed mango]

fr

[bronze stirrup]

its just a thing ig

[sharp gyro]

join godfathxr server on portal. currently live

[hexed mango]

tbh i dont see the appeal of suppressors anyways

[hexed mango]

#portal

[violet meteor]

Yes, in fact you'd be picking a great time to pick up 2042

[foggy halo]

👀

[hexed mango]

[bronze stirrup]

On some guns they're pretty clean like the pbx for example

[split minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tf-you-lyin-liar-gif-12370861

[hexed mango]

ye i just dont see the value for the debuffs is all

[severe igloo]

i see, it improved over the year? because i found myself a 25 euro disk deal

[bronze stirrup]

the debuffs are kinda hard in this game tbh

[severe igloo]

i played the Beta on PC

[hexed mango]

very very much, plus S2 is right around the corner (view some info about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXwQknbg64A)

[bronze stirrup]

damage ontop of velocity debuffs are gross

[hexed mango]

fr

[solar tinsel]

It has. Season 1 was well received, and Season 2 (should be coming next week or so) is highly expected to be very good as well. LOTS of QoL/gameplay improvements since beta

[hexed mango]

quite

[rocky kraken]

CLASS SYTEM YES

[bronze stirrup]

like its either one or the other, otherwise they just dont feel worth using

[rocky kraken]

SEASON 3 WHAT

BRUH

[jade hill]

I feel like bf2042 will be like bfV , shitty at start and one od best bf games near end

[solar tinsel]

Sadly, also: Update 3.2 (so late Season 3 haha)

[violet meteor]

Yeah it has, and more improvements on the way

[bronze stirrup]

I still dont like V

[wide shore]

M60 belt box unfathomably connects to the gun

[solar tinsel]

I am curious as to what about that class system will take so much longer, considering it's not any new content. Maybe testing for balance?

[hexed mango]

live with it

[fiery shoal]

ehh bfv wasnt bad at launch, and only got annoying with patches that introduced bugs. outside of that the only complaint was slow content releases

[solar tinsel]

New UI?

[wide shore]

I mean, I will. It is just silly

[hexed mango]

#1011301084117086308 is why

[solar tinsel]

ah fair enough

[bronze stirrup]

visibility and vehicle balance are still my biggest gripes with the game

[hexed mango]

it clips in under the feeder, there's an attachment

[severe igloo]

i see i see. tho question. anyone know if PS5 adaptive triggers and improved vibration gonna be added?

[jade hill]

Oh okay, I actually didn't played bfV at launch , I got it like when bf1 was coming out

[tranquil turtle]

I'm curious about how this vault system will work

Tbh it seems extremely lazy to just add portal guns into aow

[jade hill]

But this trailer for next seasons looks promising

Esperanto class thing

[bronze stirrup]

V still has like the worst target visibility I've ever experienced in a shooter

[solar tinsel]

honestly, its the best way they can leverage the content.

[fiery shoal]

most complaints about bfv at the beginning literally had nothing to do with the actual game itself... a shitty trailer what a dev and a ceo said... not being ww2 enough.. all rather trivial things in regards to the actual game

[hexed mango]

shitty image but here

[solar tinsel]

Is it repurposing existing content? Sure. Should it be accessible? Of course!

[jade hill]

Whaaat

[hexed mango]

how so?

[solar tinsel]

The alternative is NOT having those tools to play with in AoW, and Id rather have them than not

[jade hill]

2042 has way worse visibility

[fiery shoal]

i forget about visibility, on pc it wasnt bad since i could change settings

[hexed mango]

its new guns, they are nice guns

[tranquil turtle]

Try any of the french maps in bf1

[hexed mango]

enemies literally have lights on them, its not even close to the worst.

[bronze stirrup]

Not even

[tranquil turtle]

They are ten times worse

[tidal hare]

wtf

[jade hill]

Idk I find V looks more clearer

[severe igloo]

its funny i till this day still play bf 4, but i hate to see its server count is getting lower and lower

[bronze stirrup]

Only one map in 2042 is dark and even then there's fucking lights everywhere

[tidal hare]

2042 have the brightest map ever

[wide shore]

I’ll load up BF3. Cause I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to hinge on the strap

[hexed mango]

k

please do share

im interested

bro wtf

[tidal hare]

like it is actually too bright that makes the game look graphically bad

[wide shore]

Will do lol

[wide shore]

That’s some terminator shit

[hexed mango]

fr

[next onyx]

Yeah that makes perfect sense for tbe m60.

[bronze stirrup]

I played it on console at first but went to PC and honestly still had issues seeing people sometimes even with all the extra hdr bells and whistles and stuff

[next onyx]

Specialised belt for transports.

[severe igloo]

also i got banned from a server cause the reason was that "i was a too good AA and planes and heli's we're unable to kill me"

[bronze stirrup]

They just did not have good lighting design in that game at all

[severe igloo]

today on ps5

[bronze stirrup]

I mean it looked pretty but it was just hell

[hexed mango]

M60 is gonna be fun

[wide shore]

There is a surprising amount of people playing BF3 on Xbox rn

[hexed mango]

i cant wait for S2

[radiant prism]

Aight whats the TL;DR on the dev update?

[fiery shoal]

windows hdr is bad, and unless you used all low settings (try hard settings) then yea, it was probably bad

[dapper river]

I'm confused as to how the specialist gadgets are affected by the upcoming changes. Class equipment plus a gadget you can choose? Does it mean we'll have 3 different equipment total? Or are we swapping out the specialist gadgets?

[radiant prism]

I'm gonna be getting back into this game soon once the esports lounge opens up here

[fiery shoal]

specialists are going into a locked loadout system, weapons are still available to all though

[violet meteor]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-briefing-development-update-august-2022

[bronze stirrup]

portal weapons coming to aow

[fiery shoal]

more map updates

[hexed mango]

orbital rework 10/10

[next onyx]

Yoo it's gecko.

[violet meteor]

Better if you just read

[wooden nymph]

Exactly. You can see that in the bits of gameplay on the new map they've showed. Also sneak peak into one of the weapons

[violet meteor]

Better yet watch the video lol

Or both

[bronze stirrup]

more keltec

[wooden nymph]

Keltec is based

[dapper river]

Wait, what is "exactly"? That we can swap out specialist gadgets for equipment?

[hexed mango]

goofy ahh

[tranquil turtle]

There better be at least 2 new portal maps

[viscid hill]

1 year to add sandbags and crates to 2 maps

[bronze stirrup]

0

[hexed mango]

based vcar

[bronze stirrup]

[hexed mango]

we need these

[wide shore]

Bing bong. It doesn’t use the same pouch in the original. It looks like the 2042 one uses the BC2 one.

[wooden nymph]

Nah, I mean we have 3 gadgets per person. One class locked, one class-specific you can choose, and one specialist-specific. Also a throwable too

[bronze stirrup]

no more keltec

this game is turning into an ad for them

lol

[hexed mango]

oh shit nice... i like how bf3 one slides in

[dapper river]

[wooden nymph]

[hexed mango]

[bronze stirrup]

you know what AR I'd like to see again

[hexed mango]

joe?

does Sig have any other cool ARs besides m5

[wooden nymph]

The entire game should be keltec only.
Or they should add so many keltec products, that you can create keltec-only servers in Portal

[hexed mango]

keltec only has so much tho

[bronze stirrup]

Beretta AXR

[wooden nymph]

doesn't matter
MOOOOARRRE KELTEC

[tranquil turtle]

SG552 and 553

[wooden nymph]

SG553 is based

[hexed mango]

https://www.sigsauer.com/firearms/rifles-pistols/cross.html

DM7?/

jk

[wooden nymph]

My fav gun in Bf3

[hexed mango]

sws more likely

but not even

[bronze stirrup]

I cant be the only one who liked the axr

[next onyx]

SIG SAUER.

Look that up.

[bronze stirrup]

ARX160 with attachable grenade launchers

[hexed mango]

modern winchester lmao

[hexed mango]

oh yeah

[next onyx]

Mcx spear ye.

[hexed mango]

way, this looks like the one from the trailer lol

curved ammo, short grip

[next onyx]

There's a unique sig bullpup.

Ohhh yeah.

[wide shore]

The 2042 M60 reloads almost exactly the same as the BC2 one

[next onyx]

That stock.

[hexed mango]

do you know the name

[next onyx]

I love how exaggerated that is poetic.

I cannot remember since it's been months.

[hexed mango]

https://www.sigsauer.com/firearms/rifles-pistols.html?product_list_limit=all

[wide shore]

Everything in BC2 was exaggerated. It’s what made it so fun

[wooden nymph]

so sad AK was modelled after the prototype and not the export variant (the export stock is now a production one)

[low timber]

Oh, there was a new weapon shown in the video, looks like an SMG.

[hearty flame]

the exaggerated mag taps when reloading felt great

[wooden nymph]

Keltec P50 most likely

[hexed mango]

YO.

[wide shore]

It looked like the MP9 to me.

[hexed mango]

MG 338

[low timber]

Was way longer than the MP9

[hexed mango]

MCS Rattler?

looks hot

[wide shore]

Part of the reason I love the SFAR reload in 2042 is cause of the mag tap

We need to normalize mag taps

[dapper river]

I'm literally seething. Does this mean no mastery badges? I couldn't give less of a shit about skins, I just want my little profile badge.

[hexed mango]

probably ported same one to save time from Portal BC2 -> BF3

[hearty flame]

the forcefulness when reloading the mp rex was great as well. probably my favorite revolver animation of all time

[wide shore]

Very possible. But, interesting little science experiment.

[hexed mango]

i thought they also said that they would have mastery... but ig no skins

that kinda sucks

i wanted cool skins for my M60

[hearty flame]

damn how hard is it for them to just port over portal assets

[wooden nymph]

I believe mastery badges are a thing, just no t5 and t1 skins

[hexed mango]

thats really sad

[low timber]

Plus theres holes that the MP9 doesn’t have.

[hexed mango]

i mean at least we get the M60 and cool guns in aow

im not complaining about that

[bronze stirrup]

It's a p50

[dapper river]

Oh ok, phew. That was all that I cared about lol

[bronze stirrup]

If you look it up they're identical

[wide shore]

M60 over the years.

[hexed mango]

and if we keep getting more guns, like it says, "this allows us to stay focused on their gameplay balance" and to "increase the speed at which we can add new Vault Weapons"
i am ok with it.

[violet meteor]

L85A1 better be coming soon

[low timber]

Its missing the explosive M60

[wide shore]

Port all the guns from portal over. You won’t see me complain at all

[hexed mango]

[bronze stirrup]

M16 in aow

[wide shore]

Idc if it’s reusing content. Just gimme more guns to use.

[hearty flame]

but why would cosmetics affect the pacing of adding weapons? two different teams

[wide shore]

I like 2042 a good bit. But the weapon pool is dreadful

[bronze stirrup]

funding

[wooden nymph]

I want lobaev sniper rifles in the game, because they look so extremely hot

[hearty flame]

if so then oof

[dapper river]

So is season 2 confirmed to start on September 1st when the season 1 clock runs out, or will there be a few days of off-season downtime between seasons?

[violet meteor]

So they can focus more on making my precious condor cosmetics instead

Mwuahahahaha

[hearty flame]

clown skins when

[next onyx]

They're not doing many people a favour with their bugged badges.

[bronze stirrup]

They would probably rather use that time and money on the newer weapons

[violet meteor]

Beats me but we are due

[low timber]

Season 1 ends on August 30th

They shortened it by 2 days

[dapper river]

Yeah but they never explicitly said when season 2 starts

[wide shore]

Yeah you’re right. Definitely the new gun

[low timber]

Nah, must be MP9 like you insisted earlier

[hearty flame]

mpx?

[dapper river]

Nah it's gotta be the MPX, for sure! Totally real (leaked)

[low timber]

Bf4 had an mpx and it didn’t look like that

[next onyx]

P50.

[wide shore]

Lissen, I had just woken up when the stream started.

[next onyx]

But it does look like an mpx in a way.

[low timber]

Budget P90

[hearty flame]

eh its the first thing that popped into my head. cant say ive used it much in bf4 so maybe not

[bronze stirrup]

charging handle and the barrel shroud give it away as a p50

[low timber]

It does look nice as a gun, but lets soo how good or bad it will be

[bronze stirrup]

Possible auto conversion but who knows

[wide shore]

Yeah that is definitely the P50

That P90 inside mag is sweet

[low timber]

And lets see if the other weapon will also be a actual gun or something more novelty like the ghostmaker r10

[civic mason]

Yoooo, bf portal weapons coming to AoW

Pog

[violet meteor]

Yeah been watching Westworld and the p90 is all they use in the future I swear

[wooden nymph]

Omg, I just opened a video of guy reloading the thing and it looks hilarious

[bronze stirrup]

That feeding mechanism tho

[wooden nymph]

This is unpractical af, but very cool

[wide shore]

Unpractical but cool is all I need to know

[bronze stirrup]

Like the only way it goes full auto is if dice pulls a "lol future"

[hearty flame]

its pretty practical for large firepower in a concealed package

[wooden nymph]

I mean the reloading is unpractical. It's like if you had to detach upper receiver from lower one on AR guns just to reload

[wide shore]

Gonna look at a video on it. It looks neat. Never heard of it before

[bronze stirrup]

I didnt see the feeding mechanism til now

[hearty flame]

ya definitely. didnt know you were talking about the reload

[bronze stirrup]

That is so weird though

[wooden nymph]

It IS weird

I love it

[hearty flame]

they could do what i think a blops 2(?) gun did and have a swivel that you insert the mag into and then push it into alignment with the barrel

i think it was an smg

[bronze stirrup]

Gnarly is definitely an accurate description

[next onyx]

G11.

Black ops 1.

I know black ops 2 guns at the back of my head.

[bronze stirrup]

The pdw was side loaded aswell

[hearty flame]

no the pdw 57. just checked

[next onyx]

Oh wait.

I didn't read the smg part.

[low timber]

Wait, the P50 is a pistol? (Watching a video)

[bronze stirrup]

I forget the weapon's actual name

Yeah

[next onyx]

Yeah marse.

[bronze stirrup]

Pistol carbine

[low timber]

But will it go to sidearms category or not

[bronze stirrup]

I would assume so

[wooden nymph]

Considering that CMR is a smg, they can put p50 whenever they want lol

[bronze stirrup]

With no mods it's just very chunky pistol

[summer zenith]

I want some meme weapons in the game

[silk surge]

What kind of scope is that? I've never seen a scope with this reticle before

[hearty flame]

future acog

[wooden nymph]

All guns are meme weapons if you try hard enough

[wide shore]

It’s in the game

[summer zenith]

I mean like the finger gun in bfv

[wide shore]

I think the AC42 has that sight.

[silk surge]

It looks similar to the 2x scopes... But the reticle seems new.

[bronze stirrup]

give us a welrod

[wide shore]

Could be!

[wooden nymph]

That's the scope you get with the legendary skin in battlepass, yeah

[wooden nymph]

We have crossbow then

[wide shore]

Watching a video on this P50. I wonder if this is the crazy pistol Alex was talking about

[bronze stirrup]

It fits the description lol

[wide shore]

Also it doesn’t seem like it should have a reciprocating charging handle like it does in the gameplay clip

I’m being very gun-nerdy today. I’m sorry. Lol

[low timber]

AC42, PP29 and i think K30 has it?

[dapper river]

Wish the game communicated better which attachments get affected by legendary skins

[tacit sphinx]

it’s not

[wooden nymph]

Yeah, you usually have to guess just by looking

[tacit sphinx]

that’s the XO smart 2x sight, it’s only on the AC42, pp29 and k30

the BP ac42 legendary gets a different shroud for the 3.5x scope

[wooden nymph]

Huh? Is it the new one or something? I have all attachments unlocked for Bizon and I don't remember this sight

[tacit sphinx]

it’s been on it since launch

[low timber]

Shame its not toggle able sight, like it does have a top side irons

[wooden nymph]

Probably never noticed it then

[silk surge]

Wth does this mean lol? More PORTAL content...?

[hexed mango]

yeah its been there for a while

[hexed mango]

where was the roadmap image, i couldnt find it on the blog

[silk surge]

Found it on Reddit

[hexed mango]

is it official tho?

[dapper river]

More PORTAL content: "we added the quad bike to bad company 2 "

[tacit sphinx]

probably a few small things/additions to the editor options

[silk surge]

It looks official... Haven't verified it, but I think it is.

[bronze steeple]

What about class thing needed update?

[silk surge]

class thing needed update?

[hallow sierra]

wait does this mean dat the weapons from season 1 would be unlock at level progression

[faint hare]

do you know when season 2 will arrive?

[next onyx]

Apparently September the first.

Which is way (haha) too soon after the first one.

However.

[low timber]

They already exists

[bronze steeple]

Season 3 i mean

[rotund grail]

That feedback thread is BS.

[faint hare]

so this week should the season 2 trailer come out?

[hallow sierra]

wheres the thread gotta see it

[hallow sierra]

maybe

[hexed mango]

sometime before August 30th

[rotund grail]

scroll up

[hexed mango]

#1011301084117086308

[arctic grove]

yall see the new update vid?/

[silk surge]

December.

[arctic grove]

yeeahh boyyy m16 and m60

[rotund grail]

Did everyone find the Easter Egg?

[arctic grove]

what easter egg?

[arctic grove]

??

[drowsy shuttle]

Orbital looks pretty damn good with the changes... i just hope the BT layout its good too... if only the 128 BT would come back... either way, really looking forward to play it. looks really good... shame we can't play it right out of the bat with the launch of S2

[rotund grail]

Check Portal servers for EE or Easter Egg.

[arctic grove]

you know what a real shame is the servers that ban the new rocket

[drowsy shuttle]

wait what?

[arctic grove]

cant u tell me?

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

some portal servers dont let u use the guided rocket

[rotund grail]

It's a crate that sometimes appears in specific places on a map.

[hexed mango]

lmao

[rotund grail]

Just google it, check for vid on yt

[arctic grove]

is it like the phantom stufffrom bf4

[hexed mango]

https://2042.echology.page

[drowsy shuttle]

ah... well, its the creator/host choice so... i've seen a couple of servers with lot of restrictions... even to specialists...

[bronze steeple]

Yea but they where like we heared you wSmas it beeded why have class engineer assault etc..

[arctic grove]

ptsd from the no flir no irnv or shotgun or x4 on snipers XD

[silk surge]

I... I'm not sure what you're talking about, could you rephrase that?

[bronze steeple]

They were like we heared you in vid release season2 like everyone needed this change i mean

[arctic grove]

new operator going to be suppoort most likeley cuz theres 2 supports rn

[mental delta]

"We heard you" but it took us 3 seasons to figured it out you wanted classes lmao

[arctic grove]

They kept the specialists tho

[drowsy shuttle]

I can see Mackay already to be king and lord in the new map arriving in S2... noice.

[arctic grove]

more like boris, imagine turretspam

[silk surge]

Because a system like that is a lot easier to balance as opposed to having non-restricted loadouts. You'll no longer have medics running around with Carl Gustafs or Assaults placing spawn beacons at vantage points and then wingsuiting behind the enemy, you'll have to rely on your team to accomplish these things.

[wild sapphire]

Still need more modes permanently instead of weekly portal rotation and a actual server browser maybe S4… lmao

[bronze steeple]

Its fine the way it is now old system with class new system with specialist system now specialist with class system i am lost there haha

[arctic grove]

tdm would be nice

[hallow sierra]

why should i my team dont revive me at times

[arctic grove]

MAKE BATTLEFIELD GREAT AGAIN

[arctic grove]

Agreed, orbital looks pretty good. Same though, 128bt was pretty fun

[wild sapphire]

I don’t like tdm in 2042 but I would like it also more variety I want 16vs16 rush

[hallow sierra]

wait in the next 2 years

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[bronze steeple]

I am curious to orbital and renewal maps they look great more places to hide like new kaleidoscope

[drowsy shuttle]

unless they buff the sentry gun, im not worried with it. But using the graple gun to reach high ground and surprise enemies (just like i do in manifest, where i think Mackay is already king) is going to be a blast.. at least teaser we got in the video development update.

[arctic grove]

try to find a tdm in battle of the bulge or nosharr

128bt was a question on a survey sent to players, so there must still be a significant enough buzz about it for us to maybe see it again

[lilac dust]

DICE and ripple effect are working with the original creator of 128 rush custom portal mode to make something for fans of the 128 CQC

[arctic grove]

Maybe. Next bf game is supposed to have a story mode. Maybe stories about the 2042 specialists???

[arctic grove]

isnt angel the one with grapple

[drowsy shuttle]

no, its Mackay

[arctic grove]

im excited for cqb

Anyone else have issues with the Season 1 badge stuck on T4? I'm Tier 100 & can't get my T1 S1 badge, but other haves. It's been bugged for weeks.

[drowsy shuttle]

that will be neat... altough im not a fan of rush, i prefer BT... rush is too chaotic... but it all depends how they will do it, maybe its something in between classic rush and BT... we'll see

[wild sapphire]

Any guesses on the battlepass weapons the new ones I’m assuming a assault rifle for one of them idk about the other weapon I know portal weapons we have m16 and m60 coming

[hexed mango]

P50

[hallow sierra]

but no auto pistol

[arctic grove]

what if its a future weapon

[hexed mango]

P50 is a sidearm

[hallow sierra]

is it auto

[hexed mango]

yep

its in the trailer

[hallow sierra]

good

[wild sapphire]

We do need a sidearm bad lol

[arctic grove]

thats neat

[drowsy shuttle]

i can sell you my tier 1 badge for 1000 boins.... jokes aside, i think its bugged but eventually will be unlocked.... not sure tho

[hexed mango]

https://youtu.be/bXwQknbg64A?t=312

[wild sapphire]

Imagine Drum mag pistol lmfao

[hexed mango]

you can see it at that timestamp

[hallow sierra]

g57 in the corner:

[arctic grove]

looks more liike an sg

smg

[hexed mango]

its classified as a sidearm

keltec P50

[lilac dust]

My guess is that they are refining it to make a new version specifically to reduce the chaoticness of 128 rush. I prefer normal small player rush, but if they can space things out more it may even be better than original 128 BT

[hexed mango]

actually apparently its semi-auto not full auto 😢

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_P50

[lilac dust]

No alternate fire mode hiding in there?

[ebon pilot]

default pistol has a drum mag

[arctic grove]

they added two gns in s2 so i wonder what the second one will b

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low timber]

So, if P50 uses the same mag as P90, and P90 is confirmed to come as a vault weapon, and P50 is a side arm, you could have two weapons at the same time with the same mag

[lilac dust]

Imma make my own full auto with a macro. Hold up

[wild sapphire]

Auto pistol drum mag is what we need lol

[hexed mango]

It doesn’t come with a white Ferrari and salmon blazer, however it does come with some other amazing features including two 50-round magazines. This 5.7 chambered handgun is sure to gather props from your buddies and range rats alike.
-keltec

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[drowsy shuttle]

btw they didn't said anything about improving performance.... well, thats it boys, want better performance? just buy new CPU.

[arctic grove]

hey thats illegal lol

[low timber]

We have a burst pistol with a drum mag.

[lilac dust]

Shhhhh

[hexed mango]

[lilac dust]

Oh wait I'm on PS5

[frigid cairn]

unironically. i have a 3600 i bought for like $150 and it's doing great

[lilac dust]

🙃

[dapper river]

objective falsehood.

[hallow sierra]

good thing i didnt buy this game on pc

[drowsy shuttle]

i have a 3600 and its not cutting it... i reach around between 80 to 110 fps (depending on places and fights) but the input lag, the responsiveness is not great... its playable.. but not ideal... 3600 only has 6 cores, game works better with 8 at least...

[hallow sierra]

not like i have high specs to begin with

[lilac dust]

They admitted it's gonna be a journey to fix PC. I am with @hallow sierra on that one..... partially cos I did buy it on PC but I stick with PS5 now

[drowsy shuttle]

oh i didn't see that... my bad then... i apologize

[bronze steeple]

M16 and new lmg they talk about

[hexed mango]

M60 is gonna be so fun

[foggy halo]

[bronze steeple]

They didnt talk about new pistol @hexed mango

[hexed mango]

no but they showed it

[remote kiln]

upgrade to the 5800x3d and you'll gain 30% performance

[lilac dust]

I bought it on PC with dogshit specs just to get sundance to tier 1 then carried it over to PS5 when I got one off ebay 🤣

[hallow sierra]

dont worry in the next say 10 years u should run 2042 with over 200 fps

[hexed mango]

this gun right here is not currently in the game

[dapper river]

So did they say anything about making 2042 attachments work with the M16A3 and M60 or will they be using their portal attachments?

[dapper river]

autoplay

[hexed mango]

and they mentioned on the blog post they would be adding 1 sidearm, and 2 other guns to 2042 along with the portal guns (2 now, 3 later)

[frigid cairn]

2042 attachments. thats why it takes some time apparently

[hexed mango]

i get bored and just let youtube play for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hallow sierra]

hope i wouldnt get piss while getting m16 t1 like i did with m5

[dapper river]

ah, sweet

[civic ferry]

is this the server for batlefield 2042

[lilac dust]

Welcome to the server of Patrick

[bronze steeple]

Oke oke

[bronze steeple]

[drowsy shuttle]

im hoping with the new AMD cpu coming out, the price of the others will drop a bit... but im not upgrading my CPU just for battlefield, cause for the rest of the games i play (and they aren't that much) works perfectly fine with 3600

[bronze steeple]

Looks like mp9

[hexed mango]

Zen4 boutta pop

[hexed mango]

thats what i thought

[bronze steeple]

3600 is fine i have 2060 and get 85fps average. I have amd ryzen9 5900x

[hexed mango]

but by a few things,

1. the way they hold it
2. the magazine
3. muzzle exhaust

it isnt

[remote kiln]

it's unlikely if I'm being honest, Zen 3 has already gone on a steep discount

[frigid cairn]

i'm on 3600 + 3080 playing on a 144hz 3440x1440p ultrawide. i don't think im maxing it out but it's definitely more than 90fps and i find the responsiveness great

[hexed mango]

compare this MP9 with the other gun

[remote kiln]

he's talking about the ryzen 3600 processor, not the 3060 GPU

[hexed mango]

brighter image

[bronze steeple]

Maybe lets hope we get new pistol i almost t1 mp28 have around 1050kills now

[bronze steeple]

Looks different agree

[hexed mango]

ye

[frigid cairn]

it's a keltec p50

[hexed mango]

yep

sure is

[drowsy shuttle]

i play at 1080p ... i don't have 1440p monitor unfortunately... either way its not ideal for me the performance... maybe some people are more demanding than others... i have a friend that used to play with around 60/70 fps and he couldn't see any issue with it... well, for me i could.

[hexed mango]

same situation here

[bronze steeple]

Looks more like a smg then a pistol but lets be honest mp28 doesnt realy look like a average pistol too

[remote kiln]

you will benefit greatly from the 5800x3d or Zen 4 if this is the case, the margin between them and the other ryzen 5000 parts are massive

[bronze steeple]

2 rtx cards for what?

I play on 2560x1440 144hz screen 27" curved from aoc

[hallow sierra]

prob cuz he used to playing wiht 60-70 fps

like i how im used to play games with 30 fps(which suck ass)

[remote kiln]

you're probably already aware but those lanes will be split into x8 for each, so your performance will be patchy

[drowsy shuttle]

i have no doubt about that... i just can't spend money on a new CPU right now.... i remember playing BFV with a ryzen 3 1300x and boy i struggled to reach 50fps at the lowest... when i upgraded to ryzen 5 3600 was a whole new world lol

[remote kiln]

yeah that's fair enough best of luck

[drowsy shuttle]

👍

[lilac dust]

My only gripe with orbital rework is it seems I can no longer speed through the tunnel in a tesla running people over thanks to the added cover 😦

[royal swan]

Sniping is somewhat easier but anything far away is always hard. Headshots are more of a dream at farther ranges

[bronze steeple]

Setup i earlier mentioned i had 160fps in bf v

Bf2042 85 average

[remote kiln]

the orbital rework looks like a new map it's quite jarring to be honest

well it is ig the POIs were changed

[lilac dust]

Precisely why it's surprising to me that people think they are on abandon ship mode still doing the bare minimum lol

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah game struggles on PC.. its funny my game at 100 fps visually looks worse than 60 fps on ps5 ... its weird (btw i have a 2070 super)

[bronze steeple]

Cover is a plus to many blank open fields in every map tbh

[drowsy shuttle]

i think it looks great.. at least on "paper".

[bronze steeple]

I play on low setings 5900x ryzen 9 and rtx2060 average 85fps

[remote kiln]

the slight concern I've got weirdly is with the spawns being tightened

if they are close enough you'll be able to camp lock out the US vehicles

[sharp marten]

I don’t get why people still think they’re on a skeleton crew and abandon ship mode

[bronze steeple]

Plays great but 160fps bf v same setup

[drowsy shuttle]

with that CPU you should have more than that... what is your RAM?

[bronze steeple]

32gb

[remote kiln]

they have a 2060

artificial bottleneck

[drowsy shuttle]

hummm yeah, but still...

[bronze steeple]

12core 3.6ghz is 5900x

My videocard cock blocks more fps

[lilac dust]

It's really frustrating cos when those people inevitably come back in like season 3 or 4 they'll say "Wow this game got really good, shame they moved on to another battlefield, I wanna keep playing 2042" 🤣

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah... im on the other side of the spectrum... my cpu is cockblocking my gpu...

[high wing]

kinda called it didn't I? (except weapons and customization

[frosty mural]

The 2050 is a bottleneck

[bronze steeple]

We can switch haha

[high wing]

Im guessing class specific weapons will take like another couple months

[frosty mural]

I have a 10700k and 2070 getting 75 fps on 1080p high settings

[bronze steeple]

Class specific weapons is balls

[remote kiln]

class specific weapons? better not return lmao

the worst part of the battlefield franchise by far

[frosty mural]

It's not..they said it's not

[remote kiln]

it's to the above comment

[bronze steeple]

Thats not going to happen right?

[remote kiln]

definitely not

[bronze steeple]

Cool

[lilac dust]

Pretty sure they already stated in the dev update video that they have no plans for class specific weapons because feedback shows people don't want it

[frigid cairn]

idk all i know is that the game plays great for me on my setup

apparently a rare feat

[remote kiln]

nobody liked it and it created weird ass setups you had to do just to get around the restriction

[bronze steeple]

Nobody wants that

[drowsy shuttle]

i have 2070 super and ryzen 5 3600... and to be honest changing the graphic settings doesn't change almost anything... putting in ultra or low i still have more or less the same fps... and the weird thing is... setting AA in high or off seems the same... seems its always off... i dunno if its because the CPU is bottleneck the GPU

[remote kiln]

it'll play good but you won't be able to "maximise" your performance is what I'm getting at

[civic mason]

This game is slowly becoming acceptable, so that's good at least

[sharp marten]

I can almost see a year 2 tbh

[frigid cairn]

yeah i could use one last upgrade to the new x3d ryzens but why do that when I can blow my money on other useless things you know

[civic mason]

i'll believe it when i see it

[remote kiln]

id gander it's more likely than not there's a year 2 phase

[drowsy shuttle]

i doubt... but it all depends on the response on the community to their changes and content during this 4 seasons

[bronze steeple]

You need recommanded 8 cores for bf2042 i believe

[tidal hare]

this assasin mode is super fun

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah.. thats what i said above... 3600 is only 6 cores and the game runs better with a 8 core cpu at least

[civic mason]

Dice have no reason to provide anything past season 4 and then just start moving on to a new BF game

[remote kiln]

I would actually advise against this, you'd be best with a x670e board and a x3d Zen 4 part instead of the 5800x3d, for your specific use case

[bronze steeple]

Yea exactly missed that post oopsie

[remote kiln]

they do actually, for the success of their next game

this is a pseudo less broken version of battlefield 4 state they're in

[lilac dust]

I can't imagine looking back a year from now and knowing that they didn't add ANY new portal maps lol that would be so odd. I would just rewatch the portal trailer and be depressed at what could have been 😦

[civic mason]

They abandonded BF V after the content the were legally obligated to provide

[remote kiln]

because battlefield v died off in its playercount

[civic mason]

i do not see this as any different, excuse my cynicism but Triple A gaming has broke me

[bronze steeple]

Lol bf2042 is great i didnt played bf4 just v and 2042 tbh but still i enjoy it

Better then bf v imo

[remote kiln]

it wasn't a "it needs to revive" situation

[civic mason]

and you think this game won't? shit was at 900 players at 1 point are you fucking high

[remote kiln]

bfv hit it's peak then slowly died off before it got abandoned

[remote kiln]

have you seen the current playercount?

[hearty flame]

right and 2042s playercount is probably worse than V at this point

[lilac dust]

Was the pacific obligated content? Excuse my ignorance. I didn't keep up with how much content that game got

[remote kiln]

and we're only on season 1 of the game

it's a nothing to lose everything to gain situation

[versed wave]

bf V is still the most played bf to this day

[bronze steeple]

Maybe needed a few revives but i enjoyed from release it gets better every patch and season but still

[civic mason]

4284

[hearty flame]

tell that to ea who has to fund this

[drowsy shuttle]

thats what i was wondering... i don't think the pacific was an obligated content...

[remote kiln]

considering they literally brought in industry titans to fix the franchise, they're pretty serious about it

[civic mason]

meanwhile Bloons TD6 has friggin 13k

gud job dice

[hearty flame]

or those industry titans are focused on the next bf game and leaving 2042 to a skeleton team

[lilac dust]

I'm really curious if we'll see Vince Zampella mark on any of 2042's content. I sure hope so

[remote kiln]

you realise that's literally impossible

[bronze steeple]

New map looks badass too why people can post video's on youtube before release?

[remote kiln]

the next battlefield game does not exist without 2042

[hearty flame]

its not considering new projects enter production all the time

[remote kiln]

the lore was built around the game

[frigid cairn]

im trying to wait for a $300 5800x3d sale which is a lot better value than $1k for a new mobo + cpu setup. even if i get a 4080 i doubt i'll bottleneck it at ultrawide resolution

[wide shore]

Who posted videos on the new map?

[hearty flame]

well 2042 exists. and the next bf doesnt need to rely on 2042 at all. they can even make it non-canon if they want

[bronze steeple]

5900x was 550euro

[remote kiln]

yeah and kill off half the playerbase in the process that's an excellent idea

[drowsy shuttle]

btw just curious, are you Deco because of the football player or because of the Art or has nothing to do with it? lol

[silk jasper]

What's with the plant pots on the shipping containers they look s out of place

[remote kiln]

even DICE aren't that dumb

[hearty flame]

right the half the of the playerbase which is totally a lot that wont be greater than the amount of people they can get in the next bf

[remote kiln]

I'm not I didn't know about the Spanish football player until someone pointed it out actually, it's an nickname for my irl name

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah thats way too high for my budget... i wish tho

[hearty flame]

and dice can be that dumb

[lilac dust]

Yeah but 2042 has to at the very least make a Pacific DLC comeback or ain't nobody buying the next battlefield game. This ain't COD. They can't just churn them out and expect big playerbases everytime

[drowsy shuttle]

Portuguese-brazilian btw and not spanish ;p but its cool 👍

[tidal hare]

yeah

[remote kiln]

you realise 2042 was one of the best selling games in the history of the franchise?

[tidal hare]

everytime people said that every time people buy it

[hearty flame]

they can. look at how many people bought 2042 after the betas. a person can be smart but people are stupid

[remote kiln]

what you're hypothesising here doesn't concur with what's going on

[remote kiln]

close enough lmao

[hearty flame]

best selling doesnt mean much anymore compared to post launch transactions with how expensive games are to make, maintain, and expand now

[arctic grove]

Containerfield 2042

[hearty flame]

also we never got sales numbers either so moot point

[arctic grove]

Discarded 2.0

[remote kiln]

it does when you're talking about the titles which people herald as the best days of the franchise lol, battlefield 4

even when it was a broken didn't function mess for months

[arctic grove]

Hardline was on par with 4

Great maps and levelution

[bronze steeple]

Maxiq was the guy

He streamed it

[lilac dust]

Didn't BFV sell poorly tho? and got it's numbers up through discounted / free downloads long after?

[hearty flame]

except standards and practices have changed. people arent as willing to stick around with a bad broken game anymore and producers are more interested in post launch mtx compared to launch sales

[remote kiln]

months might be optimistic actually it didn't function for over a year

[remote kiln]

yes... which is exactly the reason why the next game.. doesn't exist without 2042

[hearty flame]

ya i think it sold like a 3rd of what bf1 did in a month. and that was with the sales like 3 weeks after launch

[remote kiln]

2042 was broken, as I said it isn't a battlefield v situation

they have to fix it to save the damn franchise

[lilac dust]

It's honestly astonishing how loyal BF4's playerbase was considering how broken that game was for so long. I'm included in that loyal playerbase

[civic mason]

im all for wishful thinking but i also feel like we sshouldn't let our standards slip

[tidal hare]

idk

[remote kiln]

and I still remember the this game is dead it'll never recover fuck DICE mantra bs people were saying exactly like now

[hearty flame]

the dev communication to fix the game restored a lot of faith personally. lots of comms and the ctes helped

[tidal hare]

people on the internet says otherwise

[drowsy shuttle]

i can already see Dice releasing the next battlefield trailer in a couple of years... people getting hyped af, everybody hopping back to BF 2042 while waiting for the release of the new one... then the new battlefield launch is shit and disappointing... and everybody sticking in bf 2042..... 200 IQ by Dice to populate and make 2042 popular.

[hearty flame]

hahaha ya no i dont see that happening

[tidal hare]

the last battlefield was so good, the x and x was so good why they ditched it

[remote kiln]

yeah lol people literally don't realise 2042 will replace battlefield 4 as the most dominant "we like this" game

[lilac dust]

I think the reason BF4 had much more empathy and patience despite a whole year of fixing game breaking bugs is because BF3 was very polished in comparison so it was our first time experiencing what would soon become a trend in video games

[remote kiln]

it's already happening even

[tidal hare]

i fucking love the fact that people absolutely hated fortifications

and 2042 beta happened and everyone said where fortifications

same goes with voip

hurr durr game no voip

[hearty flame]

Id say that youre on some copium to think 2042 will reach 4 level of popularity

[remote kiln]

they hated it then a year later oh wait actually this feature is pretty cool was the main thing

[tidal hare]

voip came, nobody used it

[hearty flame]

the only way thatll happen is if the next bf is REALLY bad

[tidal hare]

people ask for features that they dont need

[remote kiln]

which is exactly the same thing people said about battlefield 4

weird how things turn out isn't it

[tidal hare]

internet have very short term memory

[frigid cairn]

bf "vets" are obsessed with nostalgia

[tidal hare]

see cp2077 to see what the fuck that is

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i already knew that would happen... i only heard 2 guys using voip once in a game since they release it... and they only use for a couple of minutes then one of them rage quit ahahah...

[frigid cairn]

when you ask them what features they want in a new BF they'll just take ideas from old ones and mash them together

[lilac dust]

It's because it's not on by default. Apex works because you have to manually turn it off. The average player doesn't turn that stuff on when it's hidden away in the settings

[hearty flame]

they werent because at its core bf4 was still a bf game. 2042 is some pseudo hero shooter bf game that no one asked for

[remote kiln]

noo the good old days of 2142

[tidal hare]

it is on by default

at least my side is

[lilac dust]

Incorrect

[tidal hare]

idk console and stuff

[remote kiln]

come again?

[arctic grove]

Apparently candy crush Manager thought we did

[tranquil turtle]

battlefield 2042 has "battlefield" in the name. It is a battlefield title whether you like it or not

[remote kiln]

people have been demanding a spiritual successor to 2142 for over a decade

[tidal hare]

"at its core"

[frigid cairn]

just because they have real names doesn't mean they're heroes lol

[next onyx]

They need to actually release a game that has the features we all have come to accept. Like a scoreboard, squad management, server browser, persistent and an actual decent launch.

Just something stable at release.

[tidal hare]

something that no bf have ever done

[silk jasper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/wux82p/naw_bro_they_showed_my_homie_playing_battlefront/

[arctic grove]

If i wanted to play as Operators then i shouldve just played Cod

[silk jasper]

Bruh really 🦨

[tidal hare]

bf1 maybe in a sense

[remote kiln]

it's almost like nobody actually liked the class systems mechanics as much as they thought originally

[frigid cairn]

COD operators are purely cosmetic and have no gameplay effect

[arctic grove]

Hardline and Bf1 had a stable launch

[remote kiln]

because they half the time didn't make sense with the role

[drowsy shuttle]

this is true

[arctic grove]

True

[remote kiln]

you've got snipers putting c4 explosives on helicopters but no the old system is "realistic"

[arctic grove]

i Just wanted to play as a generic soldier

[tidal hare]

idk

turn off the voice

[remote kiln]

anyone remember the ucav?

[tidal hare]

something like that

[remote kiln]

I certainly remember it

[arctic grove]

Boris is the only exception

[pale creek]

you cat

[tidal hare]

btw your generic sodilers arent gonna have fully modded weapons

or something like M82 for the matter

[haughty dagger]

It’s basically Liz’s gadget

[tidal hare]

you are just someone sent to the battlefront with bone stock weaposn that is gonna die to people with names

see: AI

[lilac dust]

But less annoying

[remote kiln]

yeah the one thing I find the funniest about the battlefield playerbase is how much they whine, then go back to that system and whine about it even more

[violet meteor]

I know one thing that will never change

[remote kiln]

c4 MAV on locker wasn't enough torture apparently

[lilac dust]

Oh hang on it's opposite day. I mixed that up. Scratch what I said and reverse it lmao

[haughty dagger]

Well yeah you can just sit back and spam that shit from spawn with quite ammo replenish

[tidal hare]

ucav was a amazing idea /s

[drowsy shuttle]

its all about the money fellas... its always about the money... specialists or operators or heroes whatever you wanna call it, its the trending... its what sells through skins and stuff like that... and they just went with that...

[tidal hare]

idk

money is good

devs arent doing charity

[remote kiln]

you know what the most underappreciated bf dlc is? final stand

[tidal hare]

oh speaking of final stand

when i go bf4 i see no servers running final stand

sadge

[hearty flame]

Id say sure but with the money EA is making through mtx youd expect better pay for devs and much more content for games

[tidal hare]

most are siege or locker 24/7

[remote kiln]

sadge

[tidal hare]

im pretty sure EA have some of the best pay in the gaming industry

and one of the best working environment

[drowsy shuttle]

i doubt

[remote kiln]

?

[tidal hare]

just go search about it?

[remote kiln]

they have some of the highest paying market rates anywhere for game developers lmao

[tidal hare]

glassdoor reviews are there

on the internet

[remote kiln]

nah battlefield developers are actually working for free they're doing 100 hours a week on minimum wage

[drowsy shuttle]

i didn't deny it.. i said i doubt... but okay i was wrong aparently

[remote kiln]

something.. something

[civic mason]

I understand that companies gotta make money, im not asking em to do charity work, i just wish they could find ways to monetize their game without making it a piece of shit or anti consumer

[high oxide]

fellas

[sharp marten]

Well I mean that’s BFV and I could honestly care less about that game

[tidal hare]

idk

i personally would rather have free maps with stuff than dlc

[remote kiln]

MTX is the most pro consumer option there is

ironically

[fiery shoal]

what exactly do you suggest? imo giving away maps and content for free and charging for trivial shit like cosmetics is pretty damn generous

[tidal hare]

dlc release - people play -3 month later people just go back to whatever free map was

[civic mason]

i disagree but ok

[tidal hare]

dlc dies

dlc on singleplayer is good

dlc on multiplayer is shite

[remote kiln]

premium split the playerbase into a "have not" and "have" nevermind each dlc segregating it even more

[high oxide]

why does it feel like everyone lazers me regardless of the weapon they are using, but when I shoot them like 2 of my rounds hit total ?

[remote kiln]

even DICE knew that when they gave it away for free

[tidal hare]

unless it is only about weapons but then that would be pay2win

[fiery shoal]

imo people who complaint about modern mtx models werent paying for dlc with their own money...

[high oxide]

also when will 128 player breakthrough comeback

[hearty flame]

i do too but their content release could be more on par with the amount that mtx brings them

[civic mason]

Making the free updates/season content actually fulfilling instead of bare friggin' minimum

[remote kiln]

never

[tidal hare]

i do agree

but that is up to them

[high oxide]

I wasted my money then, that's literally what I'm here for

[civic mason]

oh no i agree on premium being a dumbass system too

[tidal hare]

regardless what model they are choosing to use

[fiery shoal]

rather vague isnt that? what exactly is more fulfilling?

[high oxide]

thats so fucking stupid

[drowsy shuttle]

i think we should stop calling it micro-transactions since bundles nowadays are like 20 euros or something? lol

[sharp marten]

I mean Tbf a lot of people also thought 2042 wouldn’t make a come back and personally it is making a come back

[remote kiln]

the reason they are fixing the game is to ensure the revenue model works

MTX don't work if anybody plays

[fiery shoal]

the gamut is rather large, people get this gist though

[civic mason]

i would like at least like, 2 maps and maybe 3-4 weapons with cool cosmetics to grind for them

[tidal hare]

it is still mtx

[lilac dust]

A 128 CQB mode is being developed for portal at some point

[tidal hare]

just stands for massive transactions

the mtx model works

people are willing to pay for skins

[high oxide]

but it was advertised at the main two modes would be 128, I was like "good heavens 128 bk sounds fucking awesome" and it was when it was in the game

[tidal hare]

whether you like it or not

and it is profitable

[fiery shoal]

eh, i personally think a map a season is good, i wish they did drop more weapons just because of the lack of weapons atm, but once we got a decent amount i dont feel a need for a bunch at once

[tidal hare]

I would be honest

[fiery shoal]

and optional/generous for consumers

[civic mason]

I also feel like triple A companies double dipping by making their game $60 on top of having MTX is a big no-no

[tidal hare]

i like 2042's weapon identity

[fiery shoal]

its a win win really...

[lilac dust]

I'm also sad they removed 128 breakthrough but at least we're getting an improved version of 128 rush at some point

[civic mason]

at least there's no loot boxes but, iz still stupid

[fiery shoal]

you know games have cost 60 bucks for a decade now?

[tidal hare]

different weapons have differnt character and identity

[high oxide]

we fucking better get something

[remote kiln]

60? games are going to 70/80 soon enough

[tidal hare]

instead of reskin of a single weapon multiple times

[fiery shoal]

games should be 70 bucks JUST because of inflation, thats ignoring the obvious increase in development time/cost

[remote kiln]

it isn't a cheap hobby

[civic mason]

i disagree, having only 1 map per season just makes these "big" updates feel a little empty, i would even accept them adding in older maps into portal or something

[drowsy shuttle]

i rather have 3 maps per season and only 1 weapon than 1 map and 3 weapons... after 3 weeks maybe 1 month people were already exausted from exposure... and it will happen with the new map...

[high oxide]

cause its dumb and was heavily advertised that it would be the way the main two modes would be played

[wild sapphire]

So I was just think g we are gonna have like three AKs lol

[tidal hare]

map takes time to make

[wild sapphire]

pretty much

[tidal hare]

why?

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. i would prefer that too but... lets not act like 1 map is the same work as 1 weapon...

[tidal hare]

a ak type smg is not equivilant to a ar ak

[civic mason]

exactly, and that's fuckin' marlarky because game budgets just keep going up and up because companies blow it on making high rez graphics and marketing

[tidal hare]

and guns like svd even though they are on the platform they are still not ak

[drowsy shuttle]

i know, was just an exmple... ofc its easier to make or add a weapon...

[lilac dust]

Well Sony just got sued 5 billion this week for overpricing their games so I hope this changes

[high oxide]

I'm so damn agitated that 128 player bk won't be back. I may as well just go back to bf4

[sharp marten]

Damn bro all of a sudden people are working for dice/EA and know what’s to come in the future wild 🗿

[hearty flame]

that was for the 30/70 split no? though i didnt look to far into it

[tidal hare]

aug preview just dropped

[civic mason]

fuckin' bullshit, inflation hasn't really increased that much, the gas prices rising was just corps being greedy and wanting to see how high they can jack up prices to set records or something, but that's outside the scope of video games

[fiery shoal]

absolutely no way they will actually have to pay that

[pale creek]

L sony

[remote kiln]

the lawsuit isn't concerning $60 MSRPs, most triple A games at $60 unless it's elden ring consume 60%+ of its sales in base costs then costs for the next game

[frigid cairn]

lol what a BS suit. dude is suing because of the 30% take they get from every PS store sale, just like Apple, Steam and literally everyone with an online marketplace

[tidal hare]

something something salary

[civic mason]

that's all bullshit, but again that's delving into politics and me just talking shit about how fucked america's government and economy is and how we live in a capitalisitc hell hole

but, anyways.

[frigid cairn]

Steam has made much much more than $5 billion from their store commission

[tidal hare]

@civic mason what about this

[fiery shoal]

what is your definition of bullshit? are you suggesting inflation doesnt exist?

[tidal hare]

if you want to work with the wage 10 years ago

you can go ahead

I certainly wont

[violet meteor]

Tell that to my weekly grocery bill. Shit doubled.

[hexed mango]

im glad we have the solution to the people who wont get all the content from the bp

and it was exactly what i thought it was gonna be lol

[high oxide]

also where is the hc scene for this game : (

[tidal hare]

my grocery bill fucking nearly doubled in the recent 4 years

[hexed mango]

in portal

[tidal hare]

let alone 10

[hexed mango]

and hc is ass

[lilac dust]

Do tell

[hexed mango]

For those of you who didn’t jump in during Season 1: Zero Hour, we’ll be using the Assignments system to allow people to unlock Vehicles, and Specialists as well.

[open tangle]

Hi. Did this channel suddenly become about economics? insert clash royale laughing emote here

[violet meteor]

And I eat just chicken and vegetables lol used to pay 60 bucks a week now its 120-140

[hexed mango]

basically just missions

[fiery shoal]

modern gaming is absolutely the most generous its ever been, and yet somehow people still find a way to cry foul and play victim

[lilac dust]

Nice

[remote kiln]

what I find most bizarre is people complain about game price rises.. (which haven't happened for 15 years), then also complain about microtransactions

[tidal hare]

@violet meteor jeasus where do you live

[hexed mango]

same meal every day?

[remote kiln]

like ??

[tidal hare]

60 a week ?

ok nvm it is quite normal

[open tangle]

Game sharing is a godsend

[tidal hare]

but for chicken and veg?

[violet meteor]

Yeah grocery shopping is cheaper when you stick to the edges of the store and buy whole foods none of that boxed shit

[tidal hare]

buying bulk is a lot cheaper

[high oxide]

I love how money is the single driving force that has brought our species to being smart cows

[fiery shoal]

i buy all my games, i like to support the creators making something that at least interests me

[hexed mango]

i kinda like how steam does it, allowing games to choose the ability for remote play, which most of valve's own games do

[civic mason]

it exists but only as a way for corps to make more money by convincing the common populace that things are getting more expensive when really the cost to make them has been the same for a long time. but again, i wish not to delve too deep into all that because i just sound like a loon.

[tidal hare]

you know

[sharp marten]

I simply just use the infinite food glitch

[open tangle]

I think we had this discussion before. I don’t have the same feelings or empathy as you do.

[tidal hare]

not all problems come from corps

[fiery shoal]

so youre mad at the way the world works, and not game prices.. got it

[violet meteor]

The inflation definition is the same on Google but wiki changed theirs if you take a look

[tidal hare]

money printer go brrrr is not because of corps

[hexed mango]

should i spent $60 to buy rdr2

[tidal hare]

no

[lilac dust]

Modern gaming is simultaneously very generous and very predatorial

[fiery shoal]

no? its always on sale

[tidal hare]

rdr goes on sale constantly

[hexed mango]

really?

[frigid cairn]

i got rdr2 for $30 like a year ago lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

people complaining about games be 60 or 70 euros... and here i am, thanking the universe, for rockstar didn't charged 300 or 400 euros for rdr2... cause that would be the fair price for that absolute masterpiece lol

[tidal hare]

whoever buys at 60 is dumb

[hexed mango]

on steam ive been watching it for months

[open tangle]

When it came out yes. It’s a rockstar Games game.

[hexed mango]

and i havent seen it on sale

[fiery shoal]

is it worth 60 even now? abosolutely, rdr2 is a huge value game

[tidal hare]

@hexed mango go to steam db

search for rdr2

[hexed mango]

k

[tidal hare]

and see the sale pattern

normally it follows it

[hexed mango]

i mean its on my wishlist now, so ill get an email

[open tangle]

For big titles like gta or red dead I don’t mind paying for those games the day they come out

[lilac dust]

Games like that are worth EVERY penny. Even 10 years later.

[civic mason]

i mean if you want to diminish my point by making such assumptions, go ahead and be a boot licker who's content with consuming subpar products at a higher price but at lower quality, i'll gladly just stick to my cute indie games

[tidal hare]

i personally heavily dislike rdr2

[hexed mango]

rdr2 isnt 10 years old tho

[tidal hare]

@lilac dust rdr2 isnt even 10 years old

[hexed mango]

rdr2 is only 4 years old lmao

[tidal hare]

hell, gtav isnt even 10 years old

[hexed mango]

RDR is 12 years old

[frigid cairn]

calling people who like things you don't "bootlicker" is so 2019

[remote kiln]

but it's critically necessary even if it's dumb

[open tangle]

He’s not saying the game is 10 years old wtf

[lilac dust]

Yeah I know lol I was just randomly saying 10 years as an example lmao

[hexed mango]

close enough tho

[wild sapphire]

Game lacked content after launch though

[hearty flame]

wow those pandemic years really messed with things

[open tangle]

He’s saying that even 10 years later it’s worth 60 quid

[violet meteor]

Free for ps+ players I believe

[fiery shoal]

lol this always happens, i reasonably point out how inflation alone accounts for a price increase and how 60 bucks is a deal and it turns into me not having standards of sorts.. not to mention your are outright lying with the "subpar products at a higher price but lower quality" comment, games are still generally 60 bucks....

[tidal hare]

still about half a year to 10

[hexed mango]

fr

[violet meteor]

Wasn't always

[uncut bay]

based, if a bit aggressive

[hexed mango]

exactly

[tidal hare]

5% isnt exactly quite close

[drowsy shuttle]

worth every goddam penny. best videogame i ever played... by a mile... its more than a game, its a damn experience.

[hexed mango]

i meant werent games like $60 10-15 years ago?

[fiery shoal]

say you dont have a reasonable argument to the topic without saying you dont have a reasonable argument to the topic...

[bronze steeple]

We have like 600euro month grocery here aswell

[fiery shoal]

yes, thats my whole point

[hexed mango]

understandable

[open tangle]

Play Elden ring

[drowsy shuttle]

not my cup of tea.. not a fan of fantasy stuff

[lilac dust]

I worded that poorly lmao wasn't meant to be mutual to RDR2

[drowsy shuttle]

but i believe is a great game

[hexed mango]

be happy

[civic mason]

maybe not boot licker, but Nyphon always simps for this damn franchise when it's been in the shit for years now, as well and just not being critical of the industry at all. He just accepts things the way they are becoming and idk, the bugs me alot

[violet meteor]

This is where subscription gaming can be beneficial

[tidal hare]

k

[slate meadow]

yeah but 10-15 years ago you got a complete functional game for that money without any battlepasses

[tidal hare]

i personally dont like rdr2

[open tangle]

Doesn’t matter where it’s set if it’s good.

[tidal hare]

i think it is boring

it prioritized realism a bit too much

[civic mason]

I would believe you have standards, but you are just so... accepting of things and it worries me on a bigger scale, i suppose

[hexed mango]

ok so ill take BF4, which wasnt complete and calculate that

[drowsy shuttle]

i agree.. im not saying its bad, i believe the game is pretty good... just not my style, thats all. 👍

[frigid cairn]

most people being critical of the industry aren't actually providing useful critiques and mostly just whine about "how things were better before". new games are insane pieces of software

[tidal hare]

economy works like economy

[still vault]

Are we talkiing about 2042?

[solar obsidian]

it was 60 back in the 90s

[tidal hare]

why complain

[fiery shoal]

i dont see how pointing out that ALL games SHOULD cost more is defending 2042... that logic...

[hexed mango]

BF4 release today for the same game would be $75

[lilac dust]

Online is very boring. Story is phenomenal. Realism is a close 2nd, but if you don't care about realism then at least the story is great

[tidal hare]

price go up

[hexed mango]

did you draw that

add boins

now

[tidal hare]

i meant the singleplayer story

i like the story

[hexed mango]

what's your #1 realism

[tidal hare]

but i hate how much horseriding that could be a cutscene is not a cutscnee

[lilac dust]

Hmm TLOU2 is up there for sure