battlefield-2042

[fiery shoal]

put 30 minutes into any other smg and you should perform better

[somber widget]

@river spear Yes, that’s why it is a DMR

[arctic grove]

Hey guys , new servers official : rush extrême /lis and dozer\ full baston : is so fun !!!

[summer zenith]

Yes its a dmr/smg

[hexed mango]

not when pressuring them to release

[wooden nymph]

Literally the reason why it is unlocked by default. But I'll still argue that it's better than any other SMG after the patch

[fiery shoal]

its a medium range MONSTER, that is also good at range with high power rounds, honestly its like 7/10 close, 10/10 medium, and 9/10 long range

[river spear]

Which attachment is good for pbx

[hexed mango]

PP-29 best

[somber widget]

Nahhh

[fiery shoal]

learn to pull down and you hardly have any downsides to the pp-29

[wooden nymph]

bizon's damage is way worse, sadly

[lilac dust]

I must say the med pen being tied to assault is very nice. I love using medpen as sundance

[somber widget]

Armor > Med Pen

[fiery shoal]

yea the pp29 is going to lose to the mp9 and k30 at close range, but thats it

[bronze steeple]

Rework renewal and orbital look great

[somber widget]

Esp Orbital

[lilac dust]

Agree to disagree. You can med up with the pen multiple times during a fight very quickly. I would rather just go behind cover than have the need for armour 🤣

[fiery shoal]

yesss they finally aded bsv to stat tracker

[river spear]

For secondary M44 all day?

[silk surge]

Is it a bit weird that DICE keeps naming maps after singular nouns, adjectives and verbs? I feel like they're doing it even more these days. In BFV they had Devastation, Mercury, Twisted Steel... and now in 2042 it's literally every single map. They have Breakaway, Manifest, Discarded, Hourglass, Orbital, Renewal, Kaleidoscope, Exposure, Stranded. Why do they do that? Is it one dude naming these maps?

[fiery shoal]

damn i thought bsv would have gotten first place for kpm, but its a not far 2nd

[somber widget]

@lilac dust Of course, it’s all a matter of preference. I just feel like the added 20 HP the armor gives you really saves your ass when you’re being shot from behind or from out of sight. And as we know cover is not very abundant in most maps.

Lol

[wooden nymph]

Easy to remember

[silk surge]

That kinda makes sense... I did have all the 2042 maps memorized just now lmao.

[royal swan]

Lol

[somber widget]

I like the names they are simple but interesting

[lilac dust]

Also couldn't really imagine a better name for them tbh. Maybe partly due to how I've easily remembered them and grown fond of them lol

[silk surge]

Hourglass could be "Spooky Sandstorm"

[somber widget]

Manifest is kinda questionable lol

[lilac dust]

Or spec ops the line 😏

[silk surge]

Yeah, Manifest doesn't make sense as a name for that map.

[somber widget]

I thought Hourglass and Orbital were pretty clever names tho

[arctic grove]

Containerfield 2042

[slate meadow]

What does it mean when three red squares pop up on the left hand side

[silk surge]

Latency issue iirc.

[slate meadow]

https://prnt.sc/Tr7ACXCxM_a5

its been this everygame for the last 6 games

[silk surge]

Ah no, that's packet loss

[bronze steeple]

M16 good?

[lilac dust]

Is there any official teaser clip of the new map or am I just seeing clips of it because youtubers got early access?

[royal swan]

I just get the orange circle with an arrow instead

[silk surge]

It means that your internet is too slow to register everything happening to you and around you, which means that you'll experience rubberbanding and desyncs more often.

[slate meadow]

Everyone in the chat is complaining about it

[silk surge]

Are you in a PORTAL server?

[slate meadow]

https://prnt.sc/TupQSspNDNO4

nope

[lilac dust]

Gracias

[silk surge]

It could be that you and the people that are complaining were sent to a server in a different region.

[somber widget]

Someone else said they were having issues in their servers as well

Odd

[wide shore]

Your KPM is like double mine

[hexed mango]

sounds cooler that way

[bronze steeple]

👍

[hexed mango]

rather than "Operation: Sea Shanty"

idk

I like the naming

[slate meadow]

But why?

[fiery shoal]

i am super sweaty though

[hexed mango]

gives significance to the map

[fiery shoal]

literally and metaphorically

[keen loom]

[lilac dust]

Wait you mean just watch the 1 second tease on the end of the development update video? I'm referring to at a proper clip of gameplay

[wide shore]

I am too. But I play a lot more passively. Lol

[somber widget]

[silk surge]

Because the game either had a stroke, or your actual region is currently underpopulated.

[hexed mango]

"Orbital" - > a map about space stuffs
"Exposure" -> literally exposed
"Hourglass" -> looks like an hourglass with that sand storm

idk

[wide shore]

Map names are very literal

[somber widget]

And then there’s Manifest

Like what the actual fuck

[solar tinsel]

almost sounds like working titles / codenames haha

[royal swan]

Hourglass is a ass map, not sure how a rework can fix it

[silk surge]

Exposure would be a better name for Breakaway tbh.

[slate meadow]

Being 18.45 in EU doubtful lol but why would it send multiple EU players to different servers

[wide shore]

Manifest makes perfect sense for a dockyard

[lilac dust]

There's so many container crates they are manifesting in your mind

[somber widget]

@wide shore Explain

[silk surge]

In that case, the game is having a stroke. Just requeue.

[somber widget]

The ships are manifesting the containers?

We way too deep lol

[silk surge]

Has happened to me before as well, even though I'm in the highest populated 2042 region.

[velvet sand]

oh shit, video on specialists and the specialist feedback loop is finally here?! what a time to be alive, now to hopefully find time to watch the video soon.

[slate meadow]

Bruh it's been like 6 different times

[somber widget]

@lilac dust Crates upon crates… i’m having nightmares

[tacit sphinx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_(transportation) @somber widget

[slate meadow]

Last game somebody thought.it was a ddos

[hexed mango]

eh maybe.... exposure is literally about a map that exposed something, so i think it fits as is

[fiery shoal]

not me, im hyper aggressive, im putting beacons on enemys closest obj to their spawn and trying to take it solo the whole game

[arctic grove]

Dice sure loves the containers

[fiery dawn]

anyone else lagging in 2042 alot today?

[hexed mango]

breakaway signifies more in the lore, if you read into it

[somber widget]

@tacit sphinx Thank you brother

Ig it does make sense

[lilac dust]

I would agree if exposure didn't quite literally go from dark corridors to blown out over exposed lighting when you exit out of tunnels and such.

[silk surge]

Never thought of it that way 😮

[wide shore]

The word manifest has many different definitions. Typical English.

[tacit sphinx]

without the context of knowing what a ship's manifest is i can see the confusion but yeah it's a good name

[somber widget]

@wide shore Yea my bad

[hexed mango]

[lilac dust]

I mean shroud was literally complaining that exposure was too blown out with lighting when you go from dark spaces to the outside. If that doesn't show you what they were going for when they called it exposure I don't know what will lol

[silk surge]

Now I'm imagining a DICE dev Googling cargo spaces to find a name for the map, and came across that word.

[solar tinsel]

Names through a BF2 name converter

Orbital > Operation Countdown
Exposure > Black Ridge
Hourglass > Operation Red Dust

[hexed mango]

sound mid af

[somber widget]

Lmao

[solar tinsel]

I do appreciate that they steered away from "Operation" everything

[silk surge]

All of those names sounds cooler tbh.

[somber widget]

Operation Countdown lol

[wide shore]

Idk. When I heard “manifest” as a name for a dockyard I immediately thought “ah yes like the document”

[somber widget]

Operation Clockwork

[solar tinsel]

haha

[tacit sphinx]

idk why this was my first reaction to that lol

[somber widget]

Ahh the memories

Good times 🤣

[next onyx]

Yoooo orbital looking pretty good.

[silk surge]

Instead of "oh cool, I get to play Operation Red Dust" it is "Ew, Hourglass again? I'm requeueing"

[somber widget]

Hell yeah! Prob gonna one of the best maps after rework

[next onyx]

Didn't need much of an adjustment too so this didn't need much time.

[solar tinsel]

BF2 was VERY much about the 2+ word for maps.

Leviathan, Warlord, Surge - only 3 maps in BF2 that I recallthat have one word map names

[river spear]

You got the calling card that I need

[somber widget]

That airstrip with the tanks and what not looks crazy on Orbital

So many fox holes

[wide shore]

The shell holes on the airstrip reminds me of Aerodrome

[somber widget]

@river spear I can help you get it

[solar tinsel]

agreed, they went more than what I expected too - love bringing the spawns in and the new cap point over the tunnel

[silk surge]

That looks like a platform where you fight a clock-themed World of Warcraft raid boss.

[river spear]

How you get it

[solar tinsel]

in fact, adding that new point on the hill I think will dramatically shift the map a bit

[wide shore]

They should’ve put the cap point inside the tunnel.

[next onyx]

Maybe?

[somber widget]

@river spear Crate EE - We just needa find a specific crate and you walk up next to it

That’s ab it

[next onyx]

I feel it would be too annoying to fight over though.

[solar tinsel]

the new point?

[wide shore]

It would be that close quarters stuff people want

[somber widget]

It’s gonna be very advantageous for whoever has that point

[river spear]

Shit that easy

[solar tinsel]

well, hold on they did say the new tunnel will have paths up, its possible that might get you to the new point

[violet meteor]

So

[solar tinsel]

so in essence, we may see more traffic now in the tunnel

[somber widget]

It’s a huge advantage point

@river spear yes

[violet meteor]

We mad? We happy?

[solar tinsel]

as people will walk from C1 to the tunnel to path up

[somber widget]

WE HAPPY

[violet meteor]

How did the video go

[wide shore]

There is a new point. It’s on the hill between D & C above the tunnel.

[silk surge]

Damn, it could be the servers in your region being in need of a maintenance break.

[somber widget]

@violet meteor I thought it was dope

[wide shore]

The elevators probably go up into the bunker.

[solar tinsel]

right, and the tunnell is having pathing up and outside

right

so we may actually see fun traversal from tunnel up to that base

[somber widget]

I hope so

[wide shore]

Perhaps.

[somber widget]

That’s a good way to contest it

[silk surge]

Such a nice idea to add an elevator to the tunnel.

[low timber]

@next onyx P90

[solar tinsel]

In general, positive I'd say. Its shaping up to be more content than S1. The big news is, S3 will have a new class system - class locked gadgets

[somber widget]

Where it splits off to the left

Could be elevators

[solar tinsel]

gadgets are being reworked in general in fact

[silk surge]

I will T1 P90 in one day, just in case people complain and they nerf it.

[wide shore]

Kinda sad the P90 doesn’t have the translucent magazine

[somber widget]

Why doesn’t it?

[solar tinsel]

yup, and being "stuck at C" was always a big traversal problem in my mind

[next onyx]

The mention of the tunnel being an objective.

[low timber]

Needs more animations for the bullets inside

[lilac dust]

Now that would be sick. I like me some elevators

[tacit sphinx]

it’s a platform where you throw banana peels and koopa shells at each other

[next onyx]

Yes! But m60...

[low timber]

And?

[next onyx]

I'm not surprised at all that they're bringing the m16a3.

[solar tinsel]

ah gotcha, yeah I wouldnt want that ha - although it seems like the tunnel could be a part of that pathing to the new point which is cool

[wide shore]

It’s probably to mimic its look from BF3.

[somber widget]

All i heard is brt brt brt brt brt brt brt brt

M60E4

[low timber]

Sure I was surprised we’re getting the M60E4 but I liked that lmg

[hexed mango]

M60 and M16 gonna be so hot... dont even get me started on the P90

[violet meteor]

Dope dope dope

[somber widget]

It’s sick

[low timber]

Not M60, but M60E4

[solar tinsel]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-briefing-development-update-august-2022

but yeah good stuff

[hexed mango]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community/battlefield-core-feedback-specialists

[wide shore]

I would’ve loved the AN94… But hey. I’ll take an M60 and M16A3. And the AKS is coming? I love that gun.

[low timber]

M60 is in Bad Company
M60E4 is in Battlefield 3

[hexed mango]

as well as #1011301084117086308

[hexed mango]

you get my point

[solar tinsel]

by the end S2 is done, we're looking to have (hopefully) 8 weapons in AoW (3 new for S2 + 5 vault weapons, if they can add them all by S2 which is their hope)

[next onyx]

It's weird that they're using the straight weapons. Not actually renaming them.

[hexed mango]

i dont really want to type E4

[next onyx]

I cannot complain though.

It's just a bit weird.

[hexed mango]

i mean they might rename them, we dont know yet

[solar tinsel]

ha, I was a bit bummed to see no cosmetic options, but I get it

[hexed mango]

they just said they would be adding them

[next onyx]

True it's early in works.

[low timber]

M249 needs to be added and some references if you use it as Irish

[somber widget]

I think they will considering the BSV and what not

[solar tinsel]

I am curious as to if attatchments will have to be unlocked for Vault weapons

[hexed mango]

the S2 trailer will give us more info for sure

[solar tinsel]

I kind of hope they do need to, to be honest

[low timber]

As M249 was Irish’s primary in Battlefield 4

[next onyx]

What we got was probably a very early image.

They might of spruced up the paints.

[violet meteor]

Looks good, can't wait

[hexed mango]

fun lmg

[lilac dust]

Ngl If there's no tier 1 to grind for on the portal weapons I'm failing to realize what the point is of giving them to AoW beyond just using them. Sure there'll be plenty of people who don't care about tier 1's but until I tier 1 all the other weapons I don't see myself using them. Seems no different than just hopping in portal other than the fact I can use my specialist now but the gun is just there, it's not offering any enticing grind that base weapons do.

[wide shore]

I reckon they’ll have 2042’s attachments and paints.

No way they don’t have T1 skins

[solar tinsel]

There will be mastery badges, but no T1 skin

[slate meadow]

I like liquorice

[low timber]

Tier 1 skin, I don’t remember reading about no Tier 1 badge

[next onyx]

I don't want to get my hopes up but I want to get a tier 1 skin for the m16a3 and m60.

[fiery shoal]

gib bsv stats

[next onyx]

Lemme dig them up.

[solar tinsel]

"None of the new Vault Weapons that we bring in from Battlefield Portal will have unlockable, or purchasable Cosmetics, and will not feature Mastery Appearances"

[somber widget]

That’s kinda lame

Ngl

[slate meadow]

Dead game

[lilac dust]

Meh unless they let us add more tier 1 badges to our playercard I have plenty of tier 1's that are difficult to achieve that wouldn't be worth replacing with portal guns

[hexed mango]

wild carpo spotted

[somber widget]

Chillll

[solar tinsel]

that will be there

"From here, you’ll be able to add the weapon into your loadouts the same as you would any of 2042’s other weapons, set them up with their Vault Attachments, and work towards earning their mastery badges."

[low timber]

But it did sound like all the attachments will be unlocked from begging for the portal guns, but will they be the 2042 attachments and new attachments to fill the plus menu?

[solar tinsel]

So Vault Weapons: Mastery Badges but no cosmeitcs

[shy latch]

so they will add Claymore, Javelin, EOD bot, T-UGS and Tracer Dart Gun to 2042 as well?

[lilac dust]

We will have more space to display tier 1 badges? More than 3 ?

[solar tinsel]

I am curious if vault attatchments require unlocking though

[hexed mango]

they will probably have cosmetics eventually

[solar tinsel]

I thought they would, but honestly, I dont see it happening now

[hexed mango]

probably via normal, kills

[low timber]

Vault attachments so just the BF3 attachments then?

[next onyx]

@fiery shoal

[hexed mango]

probably that and new 2042 attachments, i hope

[solar tinsel]

assumedly, I actually didnt think about that...

[fiery shoal]

hows it rank in terms of kpm?

[solar tinsel]

it would be too bad if you cant put 2042 attatchments on the vault weapons

[low timber]

Way will be unlocking the M16A3 quickly as he’s using the Sfar a lot

[wide shore]

WOOF

[hexed mango]

P90, the AKS-74u, and the M98B

i cant wait for the M98B

[solar tinsel]

no news on that

nothing to indicate it would change

[hexed mango]

3 is the magic number man

[lilac dust]

Oh cos that was all my comment that you replied yes to was referring to lol

[low timber]

Would explain why no BC2 weapon in that pool other than the AKS-74U that is also in BF3

[solar tinsel]

ah gotcha my fault

[next onyx]

One funny thing I did see is "kills with the m60e4 and PKP BP" for the unlock for the m60.

Bit funny.

[fiery shoal]

@next onyx thats funny our bsv kpm is almost exactly the same

[idle rock]

well when dice do something good after 1 year

[next onyx]

Ye nyphon.

[hexed mango]

probably cause you could pick up the M60 from a dead person

[low timber]

How? It’s still usable in Portal side

[next onyx]

Oh I'm aware.

It's just funny.

[hexed mango]

ye

its weird

same with M16

"100 Kills and Assists with M16A3 or SFAR-M GL"

ngl seems pretty easy

[solar tinsel]

would be funny if you HAD to get like 1 kill with it, but you HAD to find that weapon before you unlocked it

[next onyx]

I almost hit a 3kpm for my scar when exposure came out but I stopped trying haha.

[hexed mango]

100 kills and assists, not that bad

[low timber]

I don’t think it’s weird at all, as it’s already unlocked by all in Portal

[solar tinsel]

hunt someone down

[hexed mango]

and 30 kills and assists with UGL

[next onyx]

100 kills pfft that's nothing.

[hexed mango]

fr

[lilac dust]

You make a great point

[next onyx]

30 kills might take a bit.

[hexed mango]

i like how the M60 is "100 Teammates Resupplied with Ammo"

[next onyx]

With the gl.

[hexed mango]

true

and the 100 teammates resupplied

so im glad its not like super easy

[solar tinsel]

I just kinda wish Recon got Claymores instead of C5. I'm a bit worried that C5 will be hands down best in slot for Recon, and that still means 3 classes can have high powered explosive options

and giving Support Claymores seems, weird

[next onyx]

It's battlefield fashion. You have to kinda grind for it but it's not horrible to get done.

[hexed mango]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-briefing-development-update-august-2022 i really wish this had pictures of the renewal and orbital rework instead of just talking about it

[low timber]

Well in BF3 where the gun is from it was a support weapon, so most likely referencing that, plus in BF3 portal you get progress to it by using the gun with ammo crate

[next onyx]

It's not really weird considering it's role with LMGS.

[wide shore]

Unless it’s BF1 assignments.

[solar tinsel]

fair enough

[hexed mango]

however I am SUPER excited for the orbital rework

thing looks mad cool

[solar tinsel]

100%

[hexed mango]

all the holes and destruction near the crawler way

[lilac dust]

Surprised they don't have graphics up. Instead we have to make our own screenshots from today's video rip

[solar tinsel]

I was pleasanently surprised they were ready to show it

[hexed mango]

the new objective on the hill (and its vehicle elevator)

[hexed mango]

ikr

[low timber]

The recon class does seem to get lots of gadgets, like I’d take the tracer dart to maybe support instead of recon when the recon already has the Soflam.

[hexed mango]

orbital is coming in october btw

[low timber]

After it has gotten an orbital strike

[frigid cairn]

Hello I'm just here to chime in that heli pilots like me are gonna eat good with this class update

[white geyser]

Rework of orbital it’s our trick or treat content this October

[next onyx]

I don't mind c5 being all kit honestly.

[frigid cairn]

No more Rao + stinger ❤️

[next onyx]

As much as i hate seeing it all the time.

[next onyx]

Yeah I doubt they'll do much to that.

[solar tinsel]

eh, Im weary of having such high explosives on everything, but at least its better than M5s for all

cause you need to get close at least

Im just so excited for tanks to have their due

[next onyx]

I'm not sure. I'd rather helicopters be better balanced with infantry having some counterplay.

[ocean arch]

The plus system of M16A3 have the 2042's attachments like scopes, magazines, etc.?

[next onyx]

Magazines most likely not.

It depends.

[frigid cairn]

Tanks are still gonna be weak-ish to creative C5 users

[next onyx]

They might make completely new attachments for it.

[solar tinsel]

how would you feel about a projectile speed increase for M5s, as a way to potentially hit aggressive choppers flying low

[next onyx]

Like standard extended, subsonic and high powered.

I've been pushing for that since release sync.

[frigid cairn]

Helis currently have good counterplay but taking away Angel and Rao from the fight and forcing AA to run Boris or Irish is kind of insane when you think about it

[next onyx]

Give us a fast rocket launcher in the SMAW.

[solar tinsel]

I think before it made sense, since EVERYONE could have them

but now....

and with Engineer getting Javelin too

[next onyx]

Angel isn't as nearly as annoying as Rao.

[solar tinsel]

it almost makes sense to have the M5 move faster at the very least

[tacit sphinx]

there was a weapon (the bo-rifle iirc) in swbf2015 that was given by a similar thing

[ocean arch]

ty for the info @next onyx

[wide shore]

If they brought in the RPG/SMAW from the BF3 portal and kept the speed oh my lord

There’d be a lot of salty pilots in my mentions

[solar tinsel]

awesome - I remember getting the M1911 STAC service star in BF3 prior to them opening it up to everyone at the end of the games life

[next onyx]

Oh by the way. Who remembers that map from the 2015 battlefront where the map was dry and arid with lots of hills?

It was one of the two maps in its beta.

[solar tinsel]

a handful of us just merciessly hunted down DICE devs / EA staff that were open about what servers they played on ha

[white geyser]

Still waiting for them to add a normal missile for the wildcat secondary weapon, while they’re working on the maps and other problems

[hexed mango]

yeah i remember that

[next onyx]

The screengrab we got at the end with the new panama map reminds me of that.

[wide shore]

I remember the forum threads about people picking it up and using it.

[hexed mango]

Jundland Wastes, right?

[tacit sphinx]

i think it was like given to certain players and you had to kill them, which dropped a token which awarded you the gun

yeah sounds like jundland wastes

[solar tinsel]

oh yeah we had a Platoon and everything

[next onyx]

I think so. But the screen grab reminded me of that.

[hexed mango]

ye ik what you mean

[solar tinsel]

There were like, 10-15 of us or something who got it

[next onyx]

A new aggressive assault rifle will do wonders.

[arctic grove]

Pls fix bf 2042 freezing on standby screen

[next onyx]

We don't know a fix. Please use the forums.

[hexed mango]

i really hope Respawn's Star Wars FPS is good ;(

[wide shore]

I’m excited it’s the M16. But also wish it was the XM8

[hexed mango]

maybe s3!!!

[next onyx]

Yeah I was a bit disappointed but I'll take an m16.

[frigid cairn]

M16A3 is gonna be wild

[next onyx]

I just hope it won't be another m5 with a 5HK min.

[hexed mango]

I kinda hope we get a Gol Mag at some point.. maybe an MP rex

[fiery shoal]

idk poo about guns, i just want more to shoot with

[tacit sphinx]

im not a fan of the ‘portal vault’ weapons not having unlockable skins though

[wide shore]

Maybe. Hopefully. I just want the AN94

[hexed mango]

yes of course

[frigid cairn]

Literally the most OP gun in BF history from my memory

[solar tinsel]

it is a bummer

[hexed mango]

lel

[next onyx]

Yeah Dr it just rubs me the wrong way.

[solar tinsel]

I wonder if you can at least put weapon charms on them, you'd imagine right?

[hexed mango]

im sad today is my last day of summer... i wont be able to no life S2

[inner roost]

Do you mean sullust

[next onyx]

I was hoping we could get tier 1 skins or use our own paint jobs on them at least.

[frigid cairn]

I think they have skins, just not the usual mastery ones like the red/black T1 or blue/gray T3

[hexed mango]

sullust wasnt sand tho

[next onyx]

I dunno the battlefront maps.

[hexed mango]

this is sullust

[inner roost]

Was it Scarif

[tacit sphinx]

at that point idk why they wouldn’t just have mastery skins as well, but i don’t think that’s the case

[next onyx]

Whew.

[hexed mango]

since gravity was invented by newton

[hexed mango]

that's in SWBF2

[solar tinsel]

I always enjoyed that map

[frigid cairn]

mastery skins change the model

[hexed mango]

that thing looks so sick... cant wait

[inner roost]

Also in BF 2015

Scarif was ported over to BF2

[little lagoon]

So s2 specialist is going to be support

[solar tinsel]

yup

[frosty mural]

Is this your first BF game?

[tacit sphinx]

you’re right, they had significantly more in some games lol

[keen loom]

What guns are coming in from Portal

[inner roost]

So the entire map is inside the ship right? There's nothing off to the sides

[little lagoon]

Bc2 sniper drop was crazy from what I remember

[solar tinsel]

At S2 launch, M16A3 + M60E4, later in S2...

[next onyx]

It's battlefield so it's open.

[hexed mango]

there looks to be stuff outside

[tacit sphinx]

bf4 had like jupiter gravity lol

[frosty mural]

I doubt it, they said it's gonna be 128p support..

[solar tinsel]

P90, AK74u, M98B

[next onyx]

P90 afterwards.

[inner roost]

Guys does anyone remember a BF4 map that took place on a multi floor ship

[keen loom]

I love the M16

[frigid cairn]

they said the panama canal map is gonna be CQB focused so it's probably mostly inside

[solar tinsel]

So assuming they stay on track, 5 vault weapons for S2

[keen loom]

P90 also slaps

[next onyx]

A certain someone is not gonna be happy with these restrictions lol.

[inner roost]

This reminds me of that map kind of

[low timber]

If you’d be in EU we could go around with P90 blazing and yelling ”indeed” to our enemies

[frosty mural]

it was there...in fact i think it's less drop than before probably cause of the map sizes..

[solar tinsel]

I truly think the new map will be Iron Gator 2.0

[next onyx]

Lis does feel like an assault but due to the tech of her gadget and passive it fits.

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-fancy-driving-car-ride-gif-16720268

[river spear]

70 more levels to go on the bp

[next onyx]

I'll promise to try to get a clip in our name .

[wide shore]

Good luck man

[tacit sphinx]

hmm good luck with that one

[celest oar]

rip

[solar tinsel]

There is a bit of identity crisis with Engineers: being "the vehicle class" but also really just "defensive". The choice to put Repair Tool in Engineer though makes me feel as if they are going more into the vehicle role though

[river spear]

Lmaooo

[little lagoon]

You got this

[river spear]

No chance?

Lmaoo

[little lagoon]

Just gotta play for 7 days In a row

Or pay

[low timber]

Make a montage of clips of Teal’c dual wielding and every time he shoots it switches to 2042 clip of enemies dying.

[next onyx]

Its weird that they say they're bringing back classes when technically they've been in this game except the line is more vague.

[hexed mango]

i think it fits fine tho. assault has more of pressing issues

[keen loom]

[solar obsidian]

sleep is overrated

[hexed mango]

#1011301084117086308 bozo

[next onyx]

I guess they really want to do something about it.

[keen loom]

No you

[solar tinsel]

well, the gadgets are the big deal for sure

[next onyx]

Thank fuck beacons are being left to recon.

[hexed mango]

im just glad they added TUGs back

[river spear]

Lmaooo

[fiery shoal]

yea, interesting they went with a mix of locked and open loadouts

[white geyser]

If they can’t add M4A1 rifle, just bring back the M16 and use the 2042 attachment’s

[low timber]

Triple gadgets is a interest idea

[solar tinsel]

I am curious though how the game will change, with infantry having 3 gadgets now instead of 2. That will be interesting

[fiery shoal]

granted.. with the weapon count atm they cant even do locked weapon loadouts...

[solar tinsel]

ha

[hexed mango]

i love the rework idea ngl

[solar tinsel]

we said the same thing

[frigid cairn]

they've literally announced they're doing that lol

[hexed mango]

and i love that they are keeping guns opened

[low timber]

And when I did learn about specialist specific gadgets I did think we’ll get 3 gadget system

[next onyx]

I like the freedoms but some shit shouldn't be a thing.

Recon should have things like a beacon and only they should have it with the game specifically balanced around it.

[hexed mango]

el bozo over here didnt read the dev update notes

[solar tinsel]

I think 3 gadgets at least gives each player "more stuff" while simultaneously restricting players into class roles

[next onyx]

Funny enough bf1942 engineer has 3 gadgets.

[solar tinsel]

so even though you "can't do everything" you can do "more of the thing you do"

[next onyx]

TNT replaces their grenade.

[solar tinsel]

which I think is a good approach

[fiery shoal]

this is one thing idk how i feel about, ive come to love being able to use a beacon with falck

[inner roost]

rip Rao + AA

[next onyx]

So in a way.

[fiery dawn]

Another one bites the dust

[fiery shoal]

now that beacon is only recon now i gotta main a recon xD

[low timber]

Well it’s still technically a grenade

[frigid cairn]

yeah but they buffed assault a lot and nerfed support a lot which seems counter-intuitive if you want to promote "teamplay"

[next onyx]

It's c5 as your "grenade" all over again.

[keen loom]

[next onyx]

Hey, As long as it works.

Ac42 go brr.

[low timber]

Still, can’t wait to brrrrrt with P90

[fiery dawn]

[hexed mango]

[keen loom]

[hexed mango]

i cant wait to BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRt with M60

[fiery dawn]

[keen loom]

M60 and Paik

[keen loom]

[white geyser]

What other maps they should rework?, since the two maps are being rework

[fiery dawn]

[wide shore]

Hourglass and Breakaway have needed them the most

[full burrow]

oh fuck no dont go back to classes now

so much wasted effort and going backward, just carry on and go back to normal for the next bf game

[wide shore]

The entire northern part of breakaway should just not exist in conquest

[solar tinsel]

agreed

[fiery shoal]

(classes always existed, its just semi locked loadouts now)

classes =/= locked/open loadouts

[solar tinsel]

In my opinion, it doesn't change specialists all to much either

[wide shore]

They’re only locking gadgets/grenades

[next onyx]

I don't think they have the intention of cutting weapons out from classes.

I'm not sure.

[solar tinsel]

Yes, you have limitations for gadgets, but I think it's a nice hybrid of the two

its what it should have been from the start ideally

[full burrow]

I havent read/watched it fully yet just saw a bullet point

[next onyx]

Assault rifles and submachine guns fit all the classes.

[low timber]

Hey you, in the skirt! Get that target swinging!

P90 shreds the target log

[crimson basin]

so 3 gadgets per class now, which is interesting

[drowsy shuttle]

i was excited while reading the news about the new class system (that should've been here since day 1 but thats another story) until i read it will come only during season 3... damn, such anti-climax.... while reading i thought would come in season 2.... they needed a bang and something fresh... and this was their bang... oh well, if season 2 is more or less the same as season 1 i will put the game in the shelf and come back during season 3.

[solar tinsel]

right

[inner roost]

Weapon restriction was lame anyways

[fiery shoal]

"One final note on Weapons, and where our thinking is today on how we might approach this part of Loadouts for Classes. This is an area of the game that we’re currently happy to leave as it is.

We believe that our game plays best today when we allow you to play with a weapon that best suits your playstyle. If you want to hold a lane as Boris, we don’t want to prevent you from having access to longer range weapons, nor do we want to limit a Paik player from taking on a more aggressive playstyle and equipping Assault Rifles."

[solar tinsel]

I think it could be good though, because it does establish two things

1.) You know a class will ALWAYS have its core equipment
2.) It lets players do ***MORE ***within their role

sadly, I do think there will be some issues with it, like no way every single recon DOESNT run C5

[crimson basin]

The class system is nice but the new map looks boring. It's the same container asset all over the place.

[fiery shoal]

its been a part of every bf game though

[frigid cairn]

yeah but it mostly benefits assault and recon while nerfing support. also who actually wants to play as boris/irish if you want to fight helis or other vehicles

[low timber]

I wonder how the gadget unlocks will work, like Soflam was a level 56 unlock

[next onyx]

With weapon restrictions you could properly balance the classes around it.

[solar tinsel]

both classes can be good, but Irish has been very situational so far

[next onyx]

It made sure one never ran amuck.

[wide shore]

You can use Lis too

[frigid cairn]

weapon restrictions suck and shouldn't come back

[tepid agate]

Finally after almost a year the Devs realise the specialists are polarizing and finally going add some class system in December. Maybe some light for the future.

[fiery shoal]

i think they went open weapon loadouts simply because they dont have enough weapons to do it locked....

[next onyx]

In bf5 recon could run flares and beacon which were fucked.

If you had a suomi or stg 1-5 you'd you'd the game.

[low timber]

Back then people chose the class because of the primary weapon though

[next onyx]

But no you had a pistol carbine.

[white geyser]

Should they add another sniper rifle? I’m thinking the 50 caliber sniper rifle

[still vault]

The ships name is interesting

[solar tinsel]

haha

[next onyx]

A pistol carbine which was inferior to everything else but it kept up just as well.

It never felt too powerful.

[fiery shoal]

this comment doesnt make sense... specialists still exist, they are also a subgenre of classes... having locked or open loadouts has nothing to do with specialists either...

[wide shore]

I like open guns. I’m fine with picking a class for gadgets. But I like the choice of using an LMG without class restriction.

[next onyx]

Which was good.

[wide shore]

Oh my god

[tepid agate]

Looks like a ship crashed on the island next to orbital

[next onyx]

Yeah I don't mind either way poetic.

[tepid agate]

I'm happy they realise they are polarizing and going to adjust things

[white geyser]

How the hell the ship crash on land when there’s no water

[next onyx]

I just want better balanced classes. Assault and engineer should be your primary AT.

[wide shore]

I think people over exaggerate how much “teamwork” this is going to fix though.

[solar tinsel]

So for console: do we thinking holding square will be how you activate your Class Equipment (like you do for defibs?)

[fiery shoal]

nothing changed about specialists though... they just put them into a locked system

[next onyx]

I can't wrap my head around to specifically balance it though.

[bronze stirrup]

"Adding portal weapons to the armory" holy shit they heard us

[next onyx]

If there's one problem I have with specialists is the fact some of them is crutch.

[solar tinsel]

ultimately we now have another item to bind and if I recall, not many buttons left to bind to

[frigid cairn]

not for stingers. honestly in general stingers are gonna be a lot more rare than they already are which is only good for people like me in helis lol

[low timber]

Most just remember stuff trough nostalgia glasses and forgetting that past games didn’t have much more or less teamwork

[tepid agate]

That's what was taken away to focus on specialists. Now we are getting some core formula back whish is great. I expect more players to return

[next onyx]

Mackays nimble is crutch and the increased ADS movement speed should be a gun perk not a specialist perk in my opinion.

[wide shore]

Honestly I’m not too fussed about the portal weapons using the old attachments. I prefer the BF3 holo sight. Can’t wait to use it more.

[still vault]

The class system like this new one could actually be a buff for the stealth helicopter if it means less specialists has stuff to shoot at it.

[low timber]

They said they were coming months ago…

[next onyx]

Which by the way. Gun perks...

[solar tinsel]

true, but being forced to carry certain things will open more organic opportunities, I think

[fiery shoal]

like i said earlier, specialists have nothing to do with locked or open loadouts...

[next onyx]

I wish we had actual gun perks like from mW

Like for example

[frigid cairn]

who cares? I want good infantry-vehicle balance and classes aren't necessary for that. in fact i'm pretty sure it'll be worse with the restrictions

[wide shore]

Bases need stationary AA.

[next onyx]

Increased reserve ammo.

[granite obsidian]

CLASSES!?!! I haven’t played this game in months but this can bring me back

[solar tinsel]

like "well shit Im here and happen to have the repair tool so might as well rep that tank"

[fiery shoal]

just because they introduced specialists AND open loadouts at the same time doesnt mean they are tied together

[icy onyx]

Video games

[low timber]

Seriously? Why are people loosing their pants on classes and not on literal content?

[tepid agate]

They removed the loudouts to focus on specialists

Now they are bringing them back

[granite obsidian]

Because they’re listening. FINALLY

[bronze stirrup]

I never saw the big deal with the specialist change. The freedom was a different change of pace idk

[somber widget]

Too much freedom imo

[solar tinsel]

I think what is proposed is the right compromise

[low timber]

So you’d rather have nothing as long as you have classes?

[somber widget]

Now it’ll be more reined in

[bronze stirrup]

Since there's barely any weapons or equipment anyways whats the point of being restrictive

[fiery shoal]

"They removed the loudouts to focus on specialists"

no they didnt

and they arent "bringing them back", its just going to a middle ground of locked and open loadouts....

[still vault]

Something like that would be cool yeah. Stationary AA railguns perhaps.

[fiery solar]

Next year

[solar tinsel]

I admittedly have always felt Specialists wouldnt make or break 2042 though, and that itd be everythign else that did

[fiery solar]

Or December

[next onyx]

Increased reserve ammo, fast ads speed, slightly faster reloads, better handling, etc.

[fiery solar]

No next year

[frigid cairn]

that's literally the change they're implementing

[next onyx]

Wait by fast ads speed I mean ads movement.

[wide shore]

I can damage vehicles and give people ammo right now.

[solar tinsel]

We need Field Upgrades back! Squad points!

[white geyser]

I wish they bring back the railgun

[tepid agate]

Why do you think the Devs finally admit the specialists are polarizing and break the immersion?

[bronze stirrup]

If i cant use smgs with boris i quit

[ebon pilot]

What's wrong with that

[frigid cairn]

all engineers have repair, their specialist gadget and one more engineer-specific equipment of their choice

[solar tinsel]

you can ha

[wide shore]

You can. Primaries aren’t restricted by class

[fiery solar]

Yeah what the hell hPpened to the hovering tank and rail gun in a game where it’s sequel is based in the future

[fiery shoal]

specialists are polarizing and break immersion, that doesnt have to do with open and locked loadouts still... which is ironic given if specialists were actually polarizing and break immersion the direct solution to that would to remove them...

[wide shore]

Nothing. That’s why I said it.

[bronze stirrup]

So they're just restricting equipment then?

[frigid cairn]

yes

[arctic grove]

Can’t you only use one gadget though?

[tepid agate]

Can't you see the removed loadouts and lock ins to add a new kinda of experience (specialists)

[solar tinsel]

I tend to agree that Specialists and Loadouts are two different, albeit related, topics

[drowsy shuttle]

was pretty obvious... but maybe bf 2042 was thinking in the beginning at least with the mind set to be a BR?

[fiery solar]

Dice just needs to make the default outfits for all characters look as if they’re also just nameless soldiers but actually hero’s

[white geyser]

I better make a list and update it, so DICE will know what they’re still missing and probably forgot something

[frigid cairn]

what breaks immersion? the fact you can see their faces?

[wide shore]

Players may feel more inclined to use their tool in their class if they have it. But what is stopping players from just playing assault and saying fuck your to teamwork? People who don’t play as a team won’t anyway. It’s only a slight bump.

[arctic grove]

RIP this idea, DICE is very resistant to implementing anything like that

[solar tinsel]

often times elements of Battlefield are "different" but have varying degrees of connective tissue. Like how gadget restriction in effort should hopefully improve vehicle balance and make ground vehicles strong again

[fiery solar]

Probably it all being the same face

[arctic grove]

Is the Easter egg removed from the game?

[tepid agate]

I'm glad it's some kind of class system is returning. I am sure more players will return.

[bronze stirrup]

mental gymnastics lol

[full burrow]

lol renewal rework just looks like it adds stuff on the points and immediately around them

[fiery solar]

Orbital looks like a new map

[fiery shoal]

or they didnt have the weapon count to make locked loadouts (still weapons are open loadouts), and/or didnt want to balance locked loadouts... no only that but they could have just wanted to give players freedom to choose, considering its a sandbox title thats a goal that goes hand in hand....

[wide shore]

They’re changing the layout too to make the map smaller

[next onyx]

They'll most likely change the weather too.

[arctic grove]

Well, it’s the same person running around on both teams

[solar tinsel]

in all fairness Kaleidoscope was billed similarly, but had drastic changes in practice

[next onyx]

Like they did to kaleidoscope which is cloudy.

[full burrow]

what about actually in between and also helping to get around, ah ok layout change is good if is smallens the map

[solar tinsel]

the biggest thign for me was Kaleidoscopes new capture point sizes genuinely made the map better

[wide shore]

They’re removing E and A sectors on 128cq

[river spear]

Is hourglass a. New map

[ebon pilot]

No

[fiery shoal]

this is not a personal gripe, i dont care what the pixels im shooting at look like, but a lot of people dont like seeing the same distinct player model with a name running around the bf where its "supposed" to be a bunch of generic soldiers fighting a war

[arctic grove]

Nope hourglass is a launch map

[full burrow]

to be fair I only play exodus conquest

[solar tinsel]

because you didnt have people cramming into the first floor of A1, for example. Now you have a decently interesting combat space in and around A1.

[tepid agate]

Well, I have been playing since BF4 and this is the first time they have removed a loadout and added this new "specialist" experience for it

[solar tinsel]

Id hope Orbital also has similar capture point size changes

[drowsy shuttle]

i honestly doubt it... might be a bit too little too late... specially with MW2 right around the corner and apparently warzone 2 in november? i honestly don't think they will gain more players... they wont lose the player base they have now... but wont gain more... lot of people are burned.

[inner roost]

Hourglass you see is a map you'd think would be good, but is actually as fun to play as fjell

[fiery solar]

Hopefully we get tornados picking up trees and light poles instead of knocking them flat on the ground. As you could see it pick up unusable cars and fuel tanks in beta

[wide shore]

I dunno if they’re touching that layout. But the added cover and changed elevations should make it flow better.

[bronze stirrup]

People will find anything to complain about lol

[fiery shoal]

yes and i have been playing since bf3... i did say JUST because they added open loadouts and specliasts at the same time does not mean they are connected in that way

[tepid agate]

Oh yeah damn I forgot MW is soon to come

[full burrow]

yeah should still be an improvement

[fiery shoal]

as is obvious with this update, you CAN have locked loadouts with specialists...

[solar tinsel]

This was my proposal (hastily drawn up) for Hourglass: https://i.imgur.com/Mdg7T0x.jpg

[next onyx]

Just realised the new operator is a support.

[inner roost]

Yall actually hyped for MW2? Buying on launch and everything? SBMM is going to be a pain

[arctic grove]

Launch? Probably not

[tepid agate]

I will leave you be with your assumption, as we differ

[bronze stirrup]

this new studio working on the next game seems promising

[fiery shoal]

its literally not an assumption but ok

[ebon pilot]

sir this is a battlefield server

[bronze stirrup]

actually asking what fans want

like what is this

[inner roost]

Yeah I'm avoiding it since I believe once they add warzone to the game multiplayer is going to suffer from a lot of bugs

[arctic grove]

Within a week or so of the first season is when I expect to pick MW22 up, but iirc CoD usually rolls those out very soon after launch anyways

[inner roost]

Yeah I know, I just see a lot of "can't wait for MW2" "not playing 2042 after MW2 drops" comments

[bronze stirrup]

I just hope sbmm/mmr isn't aids in MW2

[celest oar]

SBMM isn't a thing in Ground War, too many players to balance on SBMM

[white geyser]

How the hell the devs forget to add hover tank and the rail gun? that was supposed to be in 2042

[solar tinsel]

Im sure MW2 will have a lot of BF players drop, but also a lot of BF players also typically just dont dig CoD and will stick with BF anyway

[violet meteor]

Seems like a discussion for #general

[arctic grove]

The Swedish tank modified to be a hovercraft should come back

[violet meteor]

When everyone else is trying to discuss s2

[solar tinsel]

all DICE can do is keep making BF2042 as good as it can be

[bronze stirrup]

Still waiting for that WW3 open beta tho

[inner roost]

I like ground war but it suffers from no actual dev made maps, they just take the warzone sections and use them

[tepid agate]

They still haven't navel maybe season 3 too

[solar tinsel]

Navel Season sounds like an odd theme

[tepid agate]

What till paiks scanner destroy that ship in the new map everyone spotted through all the containers lol

[bronze stirrup]

This is 2042 not 2142

[ripe hedge]

Isnt the Navel the middle of the abdomen?

[solar tinsel]

"Don't be mad, Belly Buttons just happen sometimes"!

[still vault]

They were prototypes in BF4. Might not have caught on in 2042 or the lack of resources just didn't make them feasible. I imagine both would be using quite a bit of electricity / fuel.

[little lagoon]

Didn't they already say that bf4final stand jumped the shark?

[inner roost]

Isn't Season 3's code name Lights Out, might have night maps IR and NVGs

[drowsy shuttle]

for sure. but nonetheless, bf 2042 will take a huge hit when mw2 launches... and i just hope bf 2042 will survive until season 3 when all this new class system and probably other changes drops. when i say survive is to keep at least the current player base...

[wide shore]

Leaked “navel” map

[solar tinsel]

ha

[arctic grove]

Lights out and dockyard i believe

[inner roost]

I don't think so, cod plays so differently from BF

[solar tinsel]

"Operation Belly of the Beast"

[tepid agate]

It will rain and fill up when a torbado comes

[wide shore]

Lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

give us throwing knifes, Alex! 🙏

[bronze stirrup]

lol not really if you compare 2042 mechanics

[solar tinsel]

Levolution is it IS a beast and then it gets up and everyone falls off and dies

[frigid cairn]

same community tho. you can tell since 2042 maps "suck" because they're not three-lanes that are easy to learn

[drowsy shuttle]

well... i used to play both... (but i still prefer BF)

[fiery shoal]

are weapons not in locked loadouts because we dont have enough weapons to put them into that systems? (2 lmgs being an obvious example)

[wide shore]

Hey Alex. Thanks for the AKS

[tepid agate]

The Paik scanner must be banned on the new map ship lol

Assist heaven

[ripe hedge]

I wont, thats an ask for someone else

[arctic grove]

You forgot the cargo ship in the middle of the crater

[bronze stirrup]

that would make the most sense

[inner roost]

The base of 2042 I still feel plays vastly superior to cod, I like the teamplay aspect of BF and it seems like it's getting even better with class update

[tender folio]

new update looks great.

[still vault]

They are shooters. There will always be some overlap. But saying it is the same community might be pushing it

[drowsy shuttle]

okay, can't blame a guy for trying :p

[solar tinsel]

@ripe hedge would you mind clearing one thing up? Will Vault weapons be compatible with 2042 attachments? or just the Vault Attachments only? thank you!

[wide shore]

I hope that if the new specialist is a support person. One of the new guns is another LMG

[next onyx]

Hey Alex will there be a buff for the AK24?

[frigid cairn]

COD is wayyyy bigger but id be surprised if there's a lot of people who play BF but never touched COD (not simultaneously but at least played extensively in the past)

[upper socket]

👍

[next onyx]

It feels a bit underwhelming in comparison to the scar and m5.

[arctic grove]

I believe that was part of their redesign

[frigid cairn]

AK24 shreds wdym

[solar tinsel]

that would be great if true!

[inner roost]

Can't wait to see how M16A3 plays

[next onyx]

Scar is better at range and the m5 decimates up close.

[wide shore]

It does have pretty bad damage drop off. At closer ranges it’s good.

[upper socket]

Compared to the sfar not really, still decent though

[ripe hedge]

"Amount of weapons" certainly was one point of consideration, but i have to say that we had other design reasons to do it this way that far outweigh "amount".

And we are still collecting feedback on that one, of course.

[drowsy shuttle]

thank you! i've said that several times and people said i was crazy

[little lagoon]

Any of the shotguns worth using?

[next onyx]

I hope the m16a3 doesn't have a weird 5hk.

[inner roost]

I hope ACW-R is on their list of portal weapons to come

[tepid agate]

I forgot it's coming out soon until just now. Wonder what will happen

[upper socket]

Sorry to ping but are there any new shotguns in the works?

[inner roost]

Semi auto shotguns please 🙏

[wide shore]

DAO-12 might come over from portal

[ripe hedge]

More on that soon i believe, what would you prefer personally?

[little lagoon]

Thank you and the team for everything you guys do. Yall are great!

[next onyx]

Yuck shotgun.

[drowsy shuttle]

Buff crossbow and MSC-880! oh and NWT against vehicles

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[next onyx]

Look I hope my xm8 lmg is coming eventually.

[tidal hare]

it will take place in mongolia

[upper socket]

👍y all great

[frigid cairn]

I did notice the SFAR suddenly becoming easier but the AK was slightly more consistent close range. I guess that means they're kinda balanced lol

[little lagoon]

So don't use shotgun gotcha

[ripe hedge]

Not in the near timeframe tho

[wide shore]

I’d love to have a mix of both tbh. Cause the BF3 Holo sight is much nicer than the 2042 one.

[next onyx]

Got it.

[arctic grove]

The K8 Holo is a pretty good dot sight I’d be interested in seeing on them

[solar tinsel]

Thanks for the response! Well, I know it would take more work, but obviously having that degree of customization of being able to put 2042 attachments (in addition to the vault ones) on vault weps would be fantastic.

[inner roost]

ACW-R and M416 love those weapons

[safe inlet]

Are we seeing brand new weapons being introduced to All Out Warfare? Or only the M16 and M60.

[ripe hedge]

Yes!

[upper socket]

Is there a buff for the ntw antimat round in the works? Kinda underpowered against intended targets(vehicles)

[frigid cairn]

that's just two more ways of putting the M16A3 in game lol

[upper socket]

Nice

[next onyx]

Like I said. It's underwhelming in comparison to the scar and m5.

I just hope that there'll be something to get it into line without the others being nerfed to make it decent.

[tepid agate]

Will some kind of javalin launcher exist in the future for 2042?

[ripe hedge]

❤️

[wide shore]

I’m a broken record. BF3 AN plz plz plz

[next onyx]

Eeeeeee

[solar tinsel]

Really looking forward to the vault weapon system! Great stuff!

[upper socket]

E A

[inner roost]

Nah ACR is something else

[upper socket]

?

[inner roost]

Love that gun a lot

An 94 and AS Val would also be sick additions

[hexed mango]

alex!

[wide shore]

I do love the guns coming though. Especially that AKS-74U baby. Woof

[bronze stirrup]

We have the val though

[safe inlet]

Anyone know if we’re getting brand new weapons with the M16 and M60 from Portal for Season 2

[solar tinsel]

Portal weapons coming to AoW. 2 launching with S2's launch, up to 8 total (ideally) by end of S2

more info: https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-briefing-development-update-august-2022

[haughty dagger]

What do I have to do to get a ACW-R or MTAR variant in 2042

[inner roost]

BS VM isn't the as val

[upper socket]

Nice

[frigid cairn]

have you tried an M5A3 with CQ rounds? it feels similar to the BF4 carbines

[bronze stirrup]

Yes it is

[solar tinsel]

yup its awesome!

[hexed mango]

now that we have news of 5 portal guns, was one of them your "favorite" gun that you said you were trying to get added?

[bronze stirrup]

Automatic is a conversion for the AS Val

[fiery shoal]

Alex goated

[inner roost]

Yes Ive tried it, it feels great but I really want the ACR + long barrel

[bronze stirrup]

They actually did it pretty accurately

[arctic grove]

Definitely would like an MTAR

[upper socket]

Is there a buff for the ntw antimat round in the works? Kinda underpowered against intended targets(vehicles)

[frigid cairn]

I want an MTAR

[ripe hedge]

literally wait a bit more

[hexed mango]

confirmed

ez

[frigid cairn]

👀

[little lagoon]

Super excited for portal stuff! I was right folks

[solar tinsel]

oohhhhh snap

[stark ravine]

holy fuck

[solar tinsel]

Alex droppin hype bombs

[stark ravine]

new changes

[inner roost]

ACR hype let's gooo

[wide shore]

Both guns are functionally the same. They just have a different stock. The close quarter and short barrel is just an ASVAL with a different stock.

[hexed mango]

alex what is your favorite gun

[upper socket]

Dont play portal personally, but more options sound great

[ripe hedge]

Not one of those 5 🙂

[frigid cairn]

MTAR MTAR MTAR

[solar tinsel]

Well thats the thing, you won't need to play Portal for the vault weapons!

[haughty dagger]

if MTAR variant comes with that too I’m waiting

[upper socket]

True

[solar tinsel]

Yup. Season 2 is actually looking really good already, and we havent even seen the actual core S2 content yet

[hexed mango]

so it is yet to be added, as you said the last time i asked

[inner roost]

I guess the An 94 would be the better addition then

[wide shore]

Is it what I think it is

[drowsy shuttle]

Throwing Knifes and grips for SCAR... but specially throwing knifes... i will die fighting for throwing knifes! like boromir in lotr

[little lagoon]

New map for portal 👀

[hexed mango]

throwing knives? what is this warzone?

[ripe hedge]

In the game or everywhere?

[upper socket]

Tbh favorite maps are infantry meat grinder style maps

[storm jolt]

need more melee weapons like in hardline I wanna bonk people with a baseball bat after wingsuiting onto them

[hexed mango]

everywhere

[bronze stirrup]

Its just dressed up in a 2042 outfit but yeah it's a pretty accurate representation of the rifle especially starting off as a semi auto

[solar tinsel]

S2's map seems like it will be that

[drowsy shuttle]

is battlefield V warzone? nice chance to be quiet you had there...

[little lagoon]

I'm hoping bc1 stuff in portal

[upper socket]

Bet time to go brrr

[hexed mango]

does bfv really have throwing knives?

i didnt play too much bfv

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah

[little lagoon]

Yes it does

[hexed mango]

thats a mid feature

[little lagoon]

Insta kill iirc

[upper socket]

@ripe hedge Is there a buff for the ntw antimat round in the works? Kinda underpowered against intended targets(vehicles).

[hexed mango]

wtf

[ripe hedge]

dont have a favorite one but i'd say im very partial to bullpups, so AUG, FAMAS, Malyuk, Tavor, etc

[upper socket]

I play 2042 and bf1, treches were nice

[wide shore]

Precisely. The VSS and ASVAL are the same guns. Just the VSS has a wooden stock and a scope. They use the same subsonic rounds, and shoot the same.

[hexed mango]

so.... does that mean the AUG or Famas or Malyuk or Tavor will be added to 2042

[wide shore]

I do love the AUG

[arctic grove]

Malyuk confirmed (real)

[silk jasper]

I hope they introduce new takedown animations for different positions i.e prone crouching etc.

[hexed mango]

you hinted months ago that you were trying to get your favorite gun added to the game

[ripe hedge]

I havent taken a look in a bit to the NTW so maybe its time i do 👀

[nocturne glacier]

I would love to have a subsonic round on the gvt that keeps the headshot haha.

[silk jasper]

It's very cheap atm

[little lagoon]

I hate asking questions, but I'm guessing we will see the info on s2 next week

[wide shore]

That AUG in BC2 had a gnarly fire rate

[bronze stirrup]

Also an actual m4 would be nice

The m5 is just a sig spear

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[storm jolt]

bullpups are very stylish

[silk jasper]

Can somebody confirm if they are also releasing new weapons For 2042 AOW or is it just merely importing weapons from portal into AOW?

[hexed mango]

now. this is truly a moment in gaming history

[little lagoon]

Both

[inner roost]

Bullpups are awesome

[solar tinsel]

big fan, F2000 was my top gun in BF3 (besides knife)

[silk jasper]

Thx

[violet meteor]

Don't think orbital needed a rework as much as Hourglass but ok 🤔

[wide shore]

2 new guns and a new sidearm.

[hexed mango]

ayo less go <3

[silk jasper]

Thx

I've reached tier 100 for BR is there any incentive for me to complete week 12?

[wide shore]

[inner roost]

Not really

[solar tinsel]

oh snap, I guess I am a bullpup lover too. BF3 top 3 weapons are F2000, L85A2, AUG A3.... didnt even know....

[hexed mango]

alex i must confess my love for you

[solar tinsel]

you could keep going to try to unlock a higher Season 1 badge

[wide shore]

If you want the S1 T1 badge you need an extra 150 points.

[bronze stirrup]

Though there is something to appreciate about them giving us the SPEAR as a base game weapon considering how new the weapon really is

[ripe hedge]

And the sidearm is a doozy

[little lagoon]

The t1 that's glitched

[wide shore]

[drowsy shuttle]

thats a good question... i don't think so... i don't need the weekly missions anymore, but i still do them just... well, for the sake of doing it

[upper socket]

Ye takes 2-3 mags with hitting all shots to kill vehicles which can takes ages due to how slow its bullets, reload and time in between shots are. Uping vehicle dmg on em might help, i mean just for antimat rounds, to make em worth grinding for, otherwise great gun

[silk jasper]

nah i dont think its worth griding another 15 levels tbf lol

[solar tinsel]

yeah haha, getting it to track progression is tough, Im convinced it "ate" some of my points too

[hexed mango]

M17!!?!?!??!?!?

[silk jasper]

Thx guys

[wide shore]

That’s fair. I need 20 more points. Easy get on Thursday.

[little lagoon]

Nailgun!? Finally

[solar tinsel]

It's literally called "The Doozy" and the barrel is a picture of Doziers face

[chilly jacinth]

You'll get those 150 points easy

[ripe hedge]

How exactly an M17 qualifies as a "Doozy" ?? its the averagest of the handguns 😄

[hexed mango]

man

shush

so its a revolver or a deagle

[arctic grove]

An M17 and M9A3 and I’m set for life with sidearms in this game

[chilly jacinth]

it's the infamous FMG9

[wide shore]

I’d love a fuckin deagle

[hexed mango]

some hand cannon or otherwise powerful pistol

[arctic grove]

Deagle would be an interesting addition

[solar tinsel]

I was wondering if itd be this

[bronze stirrup]

All i want is a MK18

[little lagoon]

Could be a shotgun tbh

[hexed mango]

as a sidearm? bruhhhhhhh

we need this

[drowsy shuttle]

and here i thought we were getting a Desert Eagle.... "you broke my heart, Fredo... you broke my heart..."

[hexed mango]

magnum hand cannons

[upper socket]

Ye

[inner roost]

The sidearm is the keltec P50 isn't it

[tacit sphinx]

since it seems to be question time, do you know if there’s a specific reason some optics are/aren’t on specific weapons @ripe hedge? eg the bsv only has access to the k8 holo and not fusion or xdr holo, a few other examples, and also there’s a few optics that are only available on very specific weapons like the DD holo on sidearms + SMGs, the PP1 holo that’s on two sidearms, and the XO smart 2x sight that’s on 3 primary weapons

[hexed mango]

or a literal hand cannon

[regal sphinx]

Maybe a gifted skin for ending all challenges?
Or a charm like the "Old One"-Weapon-Charm? Who knows? 🤔

[solar tinsel]

We have the .44 magnum, but don't yet have that .357 class weapon

like the REX or what have you

[frigid cairn]

it totally is wow

[solar tinsel]

REX,Deagle, etc.

[upper socket]

Oh just heard class system is changing how so?

[next onyx]

If they're going to make the ammo box less of an availability they better increase the reserve the ammo.

[violet meteor]

M60E4

100 Kills and Assists with the M60E4 or PKP-BP

[arctic grove]

That’s what I’m thinking too. I’m gonna try to do this weeks challenges this week but I’ve had little motivation to since I finished the BP

[frigid cairn]

what's with DICE and keltec lmao. at least put in the MDR

[hexed mango]

and resupplies

[violet meteor]

Is thus a typo?

[hexed mango]

no

[violet meteor]

To unlock the m60, you need to kill with the m60?

[hexed mango]

same is for the M16, kills with M16 or SFAr

[next onyx]

It's purely the reason why I run ammo crate. Because I don't want to run out of ammo all the time.

[arctic grove]

Nope, you gotta get kills with em in portal to unlock them in aow

[inner roost]

Interesting we're getting a pistol carbine

[hexed mango]

if you pick it up off the ground / play portal

[solar tinsel]

eh, we have 3 ammo types to work with

[tacit sphinx]

i think it’d be nice to just have the options since most of the holos are just preference of what sort of sight you want, i would ask about the target 8T on snipers/the gvt as well since i do like the scope on it but i realise that’s probably down to the animations interacting with the canted sight

[next onyx]

It would be cool if using similar ammo types would feed into your pool directly.

[hexed mango]

alex are we getting this

[inner roost]

Is that a volcanic pistol

[arctic grove]

Howdah in 2042 (real)

[next onyx]

Running standard, standard extended and standard drums on the ak24 should push your ammo count to an easy 300.

[solar tinsel]

like if you run two of the same caliber, you get 2 batches of shared ammo of that?

[hexed mango]

(real)! (confirmed)! (gone wrong)!

[wide shore]

Howdah is so cool

[little lagoon]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1561747479351148544?t=zp9Iq1mixYkB8C-6HKZsPg&s=19

So s2 support and s3 assualt

[arctic grove]

BF1s sidearms were super satisfying

[next onyx]

If I run standard extended with standard and standard drums, they all share the same ammo pool.

[hexed mango]

what

[upper socket]

Yes prob cuz the sounds when killing

[ripe hedge]

several reasons but mainly, to make the weapon/attachment combos a little bit more restricted to create variety. For example creates the question of, do you take weapon A because you like it more, or weapon B because it has the optic you like the best? We know we cant avoid a "meta" forming fast, but we do want people to have personal takes on their selections , like "Oh i know using the XX2 is meta, but i like the YY1 more, or i dont have the XX2 on my favorite gun "

[bronze stirrup]

If we get a mk18 with a mod 0 attachment set up I can die happy

[little lagoon]

Blank spot in support and assault

[hexed mango]

explain bf community in one image

[solar tinsel]

fair enough. I get the concept, but do also find the concept of tracking on a per mag basis is easier to understand

havig it otherwise might confuse a lot of players

[little lagoon]

I'm assuming support next season to make them even, and then assault for s3

[hexed mango]

oh yeah i asked sam about that lol

[solar tinsel]

sometimes simpliciity is good

[regal sphinx]

Me too.
But after finishing Hunt: Showdowns Battlepass I got back on the Battlefield.

Super-pumped for Season 2! Oohrah! 😎

[hexed mango]

s2 will probably be support ngl

[inner roost]

It's 100% support

[next onyx]

In before the new specialist revives people with fucking tea.

[hexed mango]

but yeah either support or assault in the next 2 seasons

[next onyx]

@hexed mango

[open tangle]

Who’s Alex

[inner roost]

Support missing a member in its class now

[little lagoon]

It will be support

[next onyx]

Season 2 specialist.

[hexed mango]

alex deez nutz @ripe hedge

[upper socket]

Nice

[hexed mango]

oh lmao

[inner roost]

Weapon designer

[tacit sphinx]

i think this would cause a few issues like negating any downsides of stuff like drum mags which have more limited reserve ammo on account of drums being a right pain to carry and fit into your rig

[arctic grove]

For sure man, same lol

[hexed mango]

i suffer from being dumb

[little lagoon]

3 for each class

[river spear]

Is the medic any good

[sweet barn]

so they are wasting more dev time catering to boomers on stuff that ultimately makes no difference

[solar tinsel]

right, and might make drum best in class if you always have the cushion of tons of extra ammo to work with

[next onyx]

Yeah true. I dunno. I guess I'm more sick of running out of high powered ammo for my drums and since I always have the mags on why can't they share from the same pool.

Though I get that too.

[arctic grove]

[upper socket]

Give it a shot

[solar tinsel]

just a troll, fear not. It is a decent news day for 2042, therefore, they come

[sweet barn]

k boomer

specialists > classes

[next onyx]

Hmm yes system is changed and people still complain.

[arctic grove]

I want him to talk a little more so all his talking points are negated and he pulls the “dead game bye” card

[upper socket]

Im not, actually i started with 2042 and started play bf1 last week

[solar tinsel]

please insult me as the millennial I am, thank you

[bronze stirrup]

who still says boomer lmao

[fiery shoal]

specialists are just a subgenre of classes

thats like saying death metal > metal

[hexed mango]

confirmed s2 sidearm

[arctic grove]

I’d like the chiappa rhino to return honestly

[hexed mango]

epic pistol

[river spear]

How you know

[hexed mango]

idk im just playing

Alex said the S2 sidearm is a "doozy"

so im trying to find a match

[solar tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-gun-gif-14829292

^ first "Doozy gun" gif result

so must be that

[upper socket]

Ditto on that

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bkLzc.gif

[arctic grove]

Specialists are still there but at least they are getting put into classes

[hexed mango]

class system looks nice tho

to balance and organize specialists

[solar tinsel]

for sure

I really think the impacts this will have on meta and balance in other areas is going to be pretty substantive

[inner roost]

It's the keltec P50 u can see in the trailer it's a pistol carbine

[arctic grove]

It does and its better than nothing

[fiery shoal]

i dont think its going to matter toooo much with weapons being open still

[hexed mango]

alex said the M17 was the most basic pistol ever
and it really hurt me

[solar tinsel]

I believe weapons factor less in class role play than gadgets, personally

[hexed mango]

what timestamp

[arctic grove]

They should bring back the M1911

[bronze stirrup]

another 1911 i wont use

[fiery shoal]

idk, it is a boots on the ground shooter with a fairly fast ttk

[inner roost]

It's in that shot of the new map where the player is shooting down a narrow corridor

[hexed mango]

u sure thats not the MP9

[inner roost]

Yeah it looks like the P50

[fiery shoal]

the importance of gadget play is definitely secondary to just outright killing people

[solar tinsel]

I'd argue that's an element for sure, but I would hesitate to call Battlefield a strictly infantry shooter

[nocturne glacier]

The assault class Gadgets definitely needs some work

[hexed mango]

this?

[arctic grove]

I wonder what gun that is

[upper socket]

I love anfantry based meat grinders, like agronne forest in bf1

[solar tinsel]

oh I think you underestimate the role class play can have on impact of a match. I understand gunplay is the immediate draw and primary to most, but class play has a LOT of rewards, both for XP but also for winning a match

[inner roost]

Look at the vented barrel it's a match for the P5

[hexed mango]

yeah maybe that isnt the MP9

[bronze stirrup]

as long as its not another locker

[inner roost]

P50

[hexed mango]

its probably a new gun yeah

[haughty dagger]

MTAR?

[bronze stirrup]

locker is a miserable experience

[hexed mango]

nah alex said mtar will have to wait

[next onyx]

I think it is an mp9.

Maybe not though.

[stark ravine]

god the 2042 subreddit is so full of insufferable idiots

[next onyx]

It depends.

[haughty dagger]

But he didn’t say how long

[hexed mango]

i concur

[haughty dagger]

[hexed mango]

u are correct

[inner roost]

I don't have image perms but you can search up Keltec P50 and post it here it looks the exact same

[hexed mango]

but seeing as its a gun from a different game, itll probably be an assignment

[haughty dagger]

Yeah I asked about ACW-R and MTAR variant in 2042 and he just said wait

[hexed mango]

comparing these does actually look remarkingly similar

[next onyx]

I do think they'll put carbines in PDW's.