battlefield-2042

[iron socket]

also who are those losers in AOD, HARM, etc 😭😭 I love clapping them

[shell dock]

Twitch tv

Sweaty no grass touching scared of the sun kids

[iron socket]

I’ll make an extra effort to kill TTV and teabag now

[bronze stirrup]

if they don't wanna put in that much work just port over weapons and stuff from bad company and 3 like they did the maps.

maybe even some stuff from 4 idk

[arctic grove]

I dislike the whole argument about how 4 had a lot of guns that were just the same, say this all the time but I think it’s important that people can compete with whatever they like aesthetically and not get steamrolled by whatever’s meta, which is something I think 4 went for and did well, yeah it has its AEK meta and all, but you can still have fun with something else even if it isn’t meta because you like it aesthetically

[scenic tartan]

the K30 is so insane i was defending B1 on exposure by myself against like 12 people

[iron socket]

Yea k30 got nerfed but I couldn’t tell

[bronze stirrup]

I feel it at a range sometimes

[rocky kraken]

does less damage

you can feel it

[shell dock]

4 had the best weapon system ever, the amount of guns made me bust and the weapon customization made me scream without the s

[rocky kraken]

just not enough damage gone

[bronze stirrup]

past like 20-30m it hits like a water gun

[iron socket]

They need to nerf it down to the mp9 level atleast and buff the pp-29 cause they nerfed it beyond use

[arctic grove]

4s customization is dated but it’s alright

[keen loom]

[shell dock]

Compared to 2042🤨

[arctic grove]

4s gun customization is dated

[bronze stirrup]

It was good for it's time. I do like the plus system and giving attachments more identity instead of them just being upgrades

[shell dock]

4 actually got customization, 2042 got…….. uhhhhh

[rocky kraken]

2042 has customization just not enough to customize lol

[shell dock]

Has???? My man my hair is more customizable (im a skin head)

[arctic grove]

Advocating for less guns that are more unique is okay if we can also get guns that don’t stand out as unique but are there if you wanna play with them and still be able to compete, but if we follow strictly make more unique guns we’ll have the problem we do now

Which is a low gun count

[bronze stirrup]

They dont even have to come up with new stuff tbh

[dire quest]

Skin head is a racist term silly

[bronze stirrup]

just give us like old title modern guns that upgrade all the same

[shell dock]

They have to come out with more game modes, weapons, attachments, vehicles. And I would love to see a new kind of drone

[shell dock]

[rocky kraken]

the specialist with the rc car is stupid

i hope they dont add that

[iron socket]

I always die to the Sfar factory mounts but can never kill with them, how do you use it?

Shoot at feet or head?

[bronze stirrup]

It'll probably have a certain range if they do add it

so it's not a full repeat of casper

[rocky kraken]

the game is already turning into cod so if they add an rc drone it would be even worse

[arctic grove]

Hale? Me either

[rocky kraken]

i want a cool specialist

[iron socket]

Casper drone and c4 was never a bad thing imo

[shell dock]

I hope they add some op drone that is gonna dominate the battle field

[arctic grove]

There’s enough ground vehicle counters and Hale is just another one

[bronze stirrup]

The fact that it had like 300m of range was an issue

literally no way to even expect that lol

[iron socket]

they need to add more specialists that promote team play

[bronze stirrup]

spawn a point away and perform terrorist attacks on tanks

[shell dock]

Basically the first thing I thought when I played the game, felt like wz

[iron socket]

Like a specialist that makes teammates closeby slightly faster or something idk something to promote team play

[arctic grove]

Isn’t the RC car like a ground version of Casper’s drone

[bronze stirrup]

them taking away angel's armor sucks

[rocky kraken]

no

its explosiove

[bronze stirrup]

cus i dont actually bring armor

[velvet sand]

I mean, most specialists do to a point. And some that seem even more teamplay oriented like Irish see low pick rates according to DICE. Why? Probably a lot of reasons, but I imagine his kit being generally "not selfish" and not contributing towards his scoreboard plays a role.

[shell dock]

They need to remove the specialist and go back to their original assault,medic,support,sniper

[bronze stirrup]

lol

[arctic grove]

Oh goodness

That would be awful

[rocky kraken]

they will never do that in 2042

[shell dock]

[rocky kraken]

specialists is the entire lore of the game

[arctic grove]

We’ll have to wait for the next major game to see if they drop it

[shell dock]

Yea sadly

[iron socket]

Yea tbh if they have more points to Irish it would be better since his trophy system literally wins C1 in Exposure

[rocky kraken]

they just executed it very poorly

[upper socket]

Tryna ply with the dxr aggresivly, its fun

[shell dock]

Game feeling like a mixture of cod and apex

[iron socket]

Okay is the 12M broken or is that how it’s supposed to work?

[arctic grove]

It’s broken

[iron socket]

major broken

[arctic grove]

It will definitely be nerfed lol

[shell dock]

Broken how?

[rocky kraken]

i hate the movement in 2042

[iron socket]

Go use it

[velvet sand]

Yeah, I need to play him more because a lot of the time it feels nobody is using him for nade protection and it sucks...but then I switch to him or someone else and it feels like there's no medics so I switch back to medic /angryshrug

[rocky kraken]

feels cheap

[shell dock]

The range and damage sucks

[bronze stirrup]

hopefully sooner than later

[arctic grove]

It’s range with both buckshot and slug and the damage drop off is insane

[shell dock]

I use it a lot, and I don’t think it’s broken

[bronze stirrup]

it didnt get the range nerf like the rest got apparently

[arctic grove]

I like 1 and Vs movement more

[rocky kraken]

m95 sniper to aow please dice

[iron socket]

Maybe don’t got it setup right? Idk but the range is almost too good for me especially when combined with the shot speed

what’s the best setup for BSV I can’t get it to work with me for shit

[shell dock]

Please add a fully automatic 50cal lmg with a 900 round mag and a 1900 rpm

[shell dock]

Yea that might be it, I don’t got everything un locked

[dire quest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/wkb8be/the_battlefield_2042_experience/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[bronze stirrup]

mobile grip, short barrel, hp rounds, irons or red dot

[arctic grove]

High power extended, extended barrel, any holo available, ads accuracy grip if I’m not wrong

[dire quest]

Poor dude

[iron socket]

y’all got opposite builds lmaoo which one is better ^^

[shell dock]

Dozer should be buffed and have his shield on his back when he doesn’t have it in his hands

[bronze stirrup]

If you want to use it like an ar that's not trash like the actual ar category my setup is the optimal

[arctic grove]

Logically speaking it just teleports into his hands so that would make sense

But I dunno how long it’ll take before that causes an uprising

[shell dock]

Yea and it would make him more useful, his shield is kinda crap

[upper socket]

Class sort idea
Attack class= high dmg on all wepons
Medic class= can revive, can heal themself(with cooldown)
Engineer= has aa/at(cooldown)/ takes less dmg from vechiles
Recon= keeps tabs on anyone within 25 meters

[iron socket]

I think that’s fair Dozer gets shit on a lot tbh

[shell dock]

Well they could still shoot his head or legs

[iron socket]

Just throw a c4 behind him and laugh

[bronze stirrup]

its funny how the AR conversion for a dmr is better than the entire actual AR category

[dire quest]

Sniper?

[arctic grove]

True

[iron socket]

You can shoot their head or legs if they’re crouching tho right?

[bronze stirrup]

I'm pretty sure bsvm is still higher ttk at long range than the sfar

even with a short barrel

[shell dock]

Ye it got 0 recoil with high damage and full auto

[upper socket]

Class sort idea
Attack class= high dmg on all wepons
Medic class= can revive, can heal themself(with cooldown)
Engineer= has aa/at(cooldown)/ takes less dmg from vechiles
Recon= keeps tabs on anyone within 25 meters
All can use any wepons they want

[shell dock]

Class sort idea
Attack class= high dmg on all wepons
Medic class= can revive, can heal themself(with cooldown)
Engineer= has aa/at(cooldown)/ takes less dmg from vechiles
Recon= keeps tabs on anyone within 25 meters
All can use any wepons they want

[arctic grove]

If they’re crouching nope, but if they’re facing away with the shield on their back and they go crouch so you can’t shoot their legs then they’ll either stare in the opposite direction of ya or turn around and probably die anyways

[shell dock]

If they’re crouching nope, but if they’re facing away with the shield on their back and they go crouch so you can’t shoot their legs then they’ll either stare in the opposite direction of ya or turn around and probably die anyways

[arctic grove]

What the

[iron socket]

Lmaooooo wtf

[shell dock]

What the

Lmaooooo wtf

[upper socket]

Also 12m is broken lol

[shell dock]

Aslo 12m is broken lol

[arctic grove]

12m auto is definitely broken

[shell dock]

12m auto is definitely broken

[upper socket]

Getting killed by it from ages away

[shell dock]

Getting killed by is from ages away

[iron socket]

Okay can we talk about how fucking stupid the crossbow is

[shell dock]

Okay can we talk about how fucking stupid the crossbow is

[iron socket]

They should require less kills for those explosive shots

[shell dock]

No

They should require less kills for those explosive shots

[iron socket]

I gave up trying to use it

[shell dock]

I gave up trying to use it

[bronze stirrup]

Tbh I haven't run into many people using it

[shell dock]

Tbh I haven't run into many people using if

[iron socket]

exactly

[upper socket]

I wanna learn it, way try it

May

Try

It

[shell dock]

I got bum fcked by a guy using it🗿

[arctic grove]

I get how the crossbow is supposed to function effectively but the explosive bolts should be like 4s explosive bolts

[bronze stirrup]

I've had the occaisonal guy sneak up on me and get the free headshot but yeah

[dire quest]

Y'all realize you can grind out any weapon to all attachments in co op right? Vs bots?

[bronze stirrup]

havent had a head on fight with it as far as I can tell

[shell dock]

I got bit in my torso or something:/

[arctic grove]

Ye

[shell dock]

I did😢

[upper socket]

Been tryna use the dxr aggressivly amd itll be fun with a little more pactice

Practice

[modest prairie]

Getting t1 wildcat is annoying with the c4 spam

[dire quest]

Just max out the crossbow to all attachments vs bots and use explosive bolts vs players

[upper socket]

Jets are so fun, but i could use it better if people soflamed so i could see where to help

[bronze stirrup]

do people actually try to level weapons against players?

[upper socket]

Yes

[bronze stirrup]

thats literally just throwing lol

[dire quest]

Technically you need to for tier 1

[arctic grove]

Agreed, especially while using AGMs

[bronze stirrup]

I expect everyone I see to have maxed shit

[upper socket]

I havent leveled mine up at all yet so im using basic crap

[modest prairie]

Does coop progress t1?

[bronze stirrup]

i just mean like attachments

nah you gotta do like the last 900 kills yourself

[dire quest]

Co op levels up to tier 3

[bronze stirrup]

Which is enough for all attachments.

[dire quest]

Yee

[modest prairie]

776 kills yay

Time to find a game with no c4 bush wookies

[upper socket]

K30 still fun after nerf

[upper socket]

👍

[bronze stirrup]

terrorists with wingsuits are more concerning

[dire quest]

I only play hardcore but bsv-m still dank in hc after update

[upper socket]

Used to main sundance, now i use her for ntw trickshots

[bronze stirrup]

i still use Sundance if someone gets me tilted

will fly my ass back across the map in like 5s to kill them

[upper socket]

Sundance is good mostly for the wingsuit

[dire quest]

Sundance is only good for the wingsuit lol, her grenades are shit

[bronze stirrup]

I dont know why they took the extra charges away tbh

especially for the anti vehicle ones

[upper socket]

They nerfed her grenades from 2 to 1 a bit ago

[bronze stirrup]

just makes them useless pretty much

[upper socket]

She used to be able to switch her scats to emps too

[bronze stirrup]

get the occaisonal scatter kill but the anti armor ones are useless with just 1 tbh

[wild sapphire]

Paik ever gonna get nerfed?

[bronze stirrup]

she doesnt need a nerf?

[arctic grove]

She actually just got what’s considered a well needed buff

[upper socket]

Shesh fine rn

[wild sapphire]

I don’t think she does but a lot of people think she is

[bronze stirrup]

she's actually a decent operator now

[upper socket]

Your used to nerfed into the ground games(poor thing)

[bronze stirrup]

her range is still nerfed

Aswell as the visuals

idk what else people want lmao

[upper socket]

She is good as is people just hate things when people can use em

[bronze stirrup]

it was stupid that she spotted herself that wasn't balanced

[upper socket]

Ye lol

[bronze stirrup]

people need to quit hiding in corners and pick their targets better

if you're trying to flank and you shoot the paik first you're just a dummy

[upper socket]

U dont like paik, simple kill em

I think the k30 is in a good spot rn

[bronze stirrup]

its more in line with how it should be

closer to pistol damage with almost no recoil

[outer anchor]

Paik is popular amongst bad players

[upper socket]

Is the sfar fun for super aggro?

[bronze stirrup]

I only use her to find campers lol

[outer anchor]

shes easy to kill anyway, I dont mind people using her

[bronze stirrup]

if someone is hiding somewhere with a beacon she does the trick

[dire quest]

Thoughts on the Bad Company 2 guns in portal?

[upper socket]

I use her when smoke is in common use, or im aggroing an obj

[bronze stirrup]

tbh I feel like she should spot equipment too

[upper socket]

Never use her outside of objs

[bronze stirrup]

like turrets and stuff

[upper socket]

What yall think is a fun wepon for being super aggro

[dire quest]

I only play hardcore so every weapon is fun tbh

[upper socket]

Oh

[wild sapphire]

Lmao

[bronze stirrup]

If I go aggro its usually the m5 with a short barrel

[upper socket]

Ah

[bronze stirrup]

the ttk is kinda stupid if you're trying to barrel stuff

[upper socket]

Ok

[bronze stirrup]

just put a laser on it and hp and just rush with mackay or dozer even

[dire quest]

Ttk is way too high in core

[upper socket]

Proning gives no advantages change my mind

[dire quest]

Proning with a bipod tho?

[upper socket]

Ye i guess

[bronze stirrup]

only if you're the scum with a bipod lcmg

[dire quest]

Lol

[upper socket]

Love headshotting prone people

[bronze stirrup]

always the most annoying player in a match

[upper socket]

Especially when their camping

[bronze stirrup]

find a headdy and bipod with a 150rnd mag

💀

[dire quest]

Do y'all consider snipers, campers?

[upper socket]

Nah as long as they dont sit the entire game

I actually rush the obj with the ntw

It goes well

[bronze stirrup]

I only go out of my way to kill them if they kill me lol

[upper socket]

Good ending

[bronze stirrup]

edge campers are fun targets

[upper socket]

Yes

[arctic grove]

bad ending: You sit and camp the entire game

[bronze stirrup]

just pull out liz

[upper socket]

[bronze stirrup]

liz is anti camp at its finest

[upper socket]

Mavkay is soo good for agro, use makay or paik for aggro

[bronze stirrup]

someone sitting on a cheeky ledge

good thing we have rc rockets now

[upper socket]

Bonk on da head

[bronze stirrup]

somehow liz was added and players think its still smart to camp like that on oil towers and stuff

[fossil trench]

Anti armor ammo on PKP is 👌

[arctic grove]

No, that’s literally their entire point honestly

[upper socket]

Yes i blitzed a heli with that

[fossil trench]

What damage does it do per shot?

[arctic grove]

They don’t need to move much except for when it’s time for a new sneaky spot when they pick some guys off

[dire quest]

If they're sitting in one spot, is it not camping

[arctic grove]

Unless they wanna get meleed in the back

[bronze stirrup]

melee is high effort

you really can get so many free player kills with liz on exposure if you pay attention to cliffsides

so many mackays and sundances with beacons

[agile tapir]

So EA is abandoning 2042

[arctic grove]

who said that?

[agile tapir]

Been watching YouTube videos on it. All EA talked about was star wars, apex, and fifa but nothing about battlefield

[arctic grove]

Are you talking about the new earning call?

[agile tapir]

Yeah I think that’s it

[agile tapir]

It’s got me a lil messed up I don’t want 2042 to be a lost cause

[hexed mango]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1466451845086433283

Battlefield (@Battlefield)

Our vision for Battlefield starts with our commitment to 2042 and grows beyond that into a new future. Hear more about our road ahead with Vince Zampella and others in a new interview.
https://t.co/ZdKqQOMVuz

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[bronze stirrup]

cant even

[iron socket]

yea they’re not abandoning it

[bronze stirrup]

people need to do their research lol

[arctic grove]

I couldn’t be sure why they havent reported the earnings, but they’re legally obliged to stay on 2042 at least until this next summer

[bronze stirrup]

these "earning" calls are just for investor interest and they barely mean much

[iron socket]

I’m really wondering how the player count will look when MW2 comes out

Are you guys going to play it?

[arctic grove]

I will

Last 2 cods were severely mid

[glossy abyss]

I really want to start a squad with somebody but I have nobody to play with :(

[bronze stirrup]

If GW slaps it'll probably hit playerbase a bit

I'm gonna play it because it sounds like they're doubling down on the punishing realism gameplay

[glossy abyss]

I might when reviewers say it’s good

[arctic grove]

Even if 2042 launched a masterpiece I’d still def play MW2

[agile tapir]

That was way back in December that could have easily changed their mind and say forget 2042

[hexed mango]

technically they arent

there isnt a legal obligation in their season content

[iron socket]

I’m gonna play some bf later if y’all wanna join but you gotta have a mic and not a squeaker

[dire quest]

Doesn't season 2 drop around the same time mw2 beta drops?

[hexed mango]

september 1st = s2

[dire quest]

Nice

[velvet sand]

I still miss November/December 2021 DICE : (

[bronze stirrup]

im gonna have to see how the beta looks tbh

[arctic grove]

Ah I see

[hexed mango]

doesnt mean they'll drop it, because they'll still get hate, but technically they do not legally have to fulfill an "expectation"

[bronze stirrup]

with DMZ and everything they've shown it looks a lot more harsh than arcadey for a change

[hexed mango]

what

[dire quest]

Mw2 beta drops sep. 24 iirc

[arctic grove]

Well, I only meant 4 seasons but not anything particular or specific in them if that clarifies what I meant

[velvet sand]

big, meaty weekly patches that made big improvements quickly! And then...they came back from holiday and we went to barely a patch every other month.

[dire quest]

24th for preorders 26th for everyone

[iron socket]

They need to fucking rent out servers and let the players design the maps make the portal map editing FIRE so the community can take it from there

[velvet sand]

Felt like a lot of people were busting butt and cared about trying to fix things and then...they didn't.

[hexed mango]

uh...

[iron socket]

dedicated 24/7 servers you can favorite and find everyday

[marsh helm]

If they just drop 2042 when y1 end I won't buy next BF

[agile tapir]

Fortnite 2042

[arctic grove]

Is it really fair to say they’ve just been “patching” tho? The updates addressed very specific and a small amount of problems at a time back then

[hexed mango]

explain how this is (consistently) weekly if there were only 2 updates before holidays

[bronze stirrup]

they were tiny updates too

[velvet sand]

there wa another patch or two in december IIRC

[arctic grove]

The monthly schedule allows a lot more to happen than weekly

[hexed mango]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-2
and these patch notes are like 5% of the batch notes we get now

[marsh helm]

What about content , Oh just like s1 " ZERO CONTENT"

[arctic grove]

If you mean to put into perspective something like, they may have had more resources then I see what you’re going for

[iron socket]

but also to be fair Dice does Shadow patches as well, they don’t mention it in the patch notes but they fix other things as well or edit things

[arctic grove]

Bro you going hard on these patch notes

[hexed mango]

the only large update was https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-3

then update 4 was super small

and then thats it

[velvet sand]

and 3.1

[hexed mango]

3.1 is 4

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4

3.1 is small

[marsh helm]

And bug fixes aren't content

[arctic grove]

Nobody said they are

[iron socket]

Ngl I’m happy with Kaleidoscope but it made me realize why it wasn’t done like that before???

[velvet sand]

I'm getting at it felt like they were pushing to fix things quickly alongside putting out bigger patches. Now we get monthly patches that feel like they come at a glacial pace since they barely address some issues that persist

[arctic grove]

Crunch time given to devs by executives

[hexed mango]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-1 - 1 page patch note
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-2 - 1 page
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-3 - large
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4 - small

[hexed mango]

two words:
Hazard. Zone.

[iron socket]

Wtf is hazard zone is it even fun? Well if you can find a game that is? And what’s the goal?

[hexed mango]

its fun

but

its not something to drool over

[arctic grove]

The only thing I’d consider playing it for is combat connoisseur

[hexed mango]

the goal is to collect data drives, and to kill people, then leave

[arctic grove]

Aka the profile tag thing lol

[iron socket]

yea I think those are the few achievements I’m missing

[hexed mango]

its pretty fun if you get a good squad, but tbh its nothing too exciting

[arctic grove]

I’ve never liked the idea of extraction/br personally so I never bothered with it

[hexed mango]

and, it was a focus during development, which is why we got shitty maps for aow like hourglass, as the hz idea was to be larger and more open

[marsh helm]

The data drives don't do anything that's problem

[hexed mango]

which obviously has shifted since launch, as exposure is actually a good AoW map

[hexed mango]

wdym?

[arctic grove]

Borbius criticizing 2042 confirmed?

[hexed mango]

the point of hz is just an extraction mode, the more drives, kills, etc you get = more HZ Points you get
HZ points are used to buy weapons and gadgets and upgrades pre-round

[dire quest]

https://tenor.com/view/its-morbin-time-kamen-rider-kiva-morbius-otoya-kurenai-kamen-rider-gif-25762055

[hexed mango]

which means the more you play, the more points, the better gadgets

its a neat system, i just dunno why they decided to work on something like that instead of pouring 2x effort into aow

[arctic grove]

Especially since HZ had a large player drop off and eventually had support end

It is what it is tho, they probably didn’t want the game to get super stale

[hexed mango]

you can easily get a match during peak hours nowadays

[velvet sand]

Honestly, while I usually applaud developers trying new things...at this point I kinda wish DICE would stop since they seem to miss almost every time and waste those resources : |

[hexed mango]

i played a few yesterday

[arctic grove]

Ah then I stand corrected

[hexed mango]

dice works on aow

[velvet sand]

and HZ, no?

[hexed mango]

iirc criterion works on hz... and whatever that other group is called

[velvet sand]

Really? Then how did DICE screw up AOW so badly if they weren't even working on it? >.>

Portal was Ripple.

[arctic grove]

Gib campaign and multiplayer and I’m fine with that

[hexed mango]

dice was probaly helping with hz, but tbh idk

[velvet sand]

I kinda ssumed Critereon handled flight and whatnot like they did for Battlefront 2

[hexed mango]

ask ea

tbh that might of been the issue

[arctic grove]

Critereon helped with vehicles

[hexed mango]

they had each department take on one entire task, instead of splitting one task to multiple groups

[arctic grove]

Also

Portal in battlefield 2024 is a requirement

[dire quest]

Criterion handled the flying ai, not the flying mechanics, that was handled by dice

[hexed mango]

like for BF4 and SWBF2, dice, criterion, dicela (ripple effect) all worked on tiny parts of the larger whole

[marsh helm]

Dice try to make a light ver EFT , but DICE don't know what make EFT fun , they just copy it

[hexed mango]

rather with 2042, DICE works on AOW, Ripple works on Portal, and they dont split the work internally

[velvet sand]

flying...AI? Didn't that only just get added? >.>

[hexed mango]

tbh i think ea gave them too much to do by themselves...

i think if HZ wasnt included during development

the game would be 2x as good

[marsh helm]

No i don't think so

[hearty flame]

hz has so little added to it i dont think so

[hexed mango]

cause then criterion, and whatever other studio, could help dice internally with aow, give more focus on that

[velvet sand]

2x as good at launch still isn't good...just less bad : P

[dire quest]

Flying ai has been in battlefront 2 since beta...starfighter assault? Dice later created the offline flying modes

[arctic grove]

Theoretically speaking we have our map design to thank HZ for

[hexed mango]

^this

[hearty flame]

hz is so barebones that without it 2042 would be 1.05 better at launch

[velvet sand]

yeah, I'm talking about Critereon's work on 2042 though, which didn't have AI flight until recently.

[hexed mango]

i think if they just we're worrying about HZ being the "next big thing" they wouldnt of had to split resources and effort

[marsh helm]

DICE is a mess right now , if someone still gonna buy next BF good luck

[hexed mango]

well it had AI helicopter flight

[dapper river]

Yeah but space is different than in-atmosphere flights with relatively small flying spaces

[dire quest]

Ah not sure then

[hearty flame]

didnt battlefront 2 also have flying ai on planet maps?

[dire quest]

Yee

[hexed mango]

but it was super scripted

like literally fly in a circle

[hearty flame]

nah they dogfought

[hexed mango]

specifically for the gunships

[dire quest]

Flying ai is way better in 2042 than in battlefront 2

[hexed mango]

idk 2042's ai is still dogwater

[arctic grove]

Cut em some slack they look cool

[fallen pendant]

Alright, time to start my morning by complaining 2042 suck

Lol jk

[arctic grove]

If I may suggest an alternative routine

[dire quest]

Tbh battlefront 2 ai was pretty smart in instant action supremacy too

[arctic grove]

Try some push-ups or some physical exercise

[hexed mango]

my main complaint about HZ is the fact that they obviously didnt learn from BFV

[arctic grove]

Good for your bones

[arctic grove]

Nah not at all

[bronze stirrup]

literally this. they obviously didn't really understand the appeal of EoT or extraction BR in general and shouldn't of even made HZ tbh

[fallen pendant]

I go to gym every weekend

[hearty flame]

2042 was literally 2 steps forward 4 steps back

[hexed mango]

firestorm was shit, and yet they decided to remake it with a bit of touchups, and expected people to like it.

which is why i will standby my theory of, if HZ was not developed pre-launch, or not at all, i think this game would of had more polish, with more hands on more of the core stuff like AoW

[marsh helm]

Wait there are steps forward in 2042 ?

[fallen pendant]

Anyways

[bronze stirrup]

what makes EoT or extraction type games special is its true death

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2024 when it attempts to copy The Division next

[hexed mango]

plus system

[bronze stirrup]

That doesn't work in battlefield.

[hexed mango]

precisely

[hearty flame]

hz is so barebones i doubt its exclusion would do much for aow

[hexed mango]

i disagree

[fallen pendant]

I hit the 29 kill mark in 2042

Almost got 30 kills

[hexed mango]

after playing it for a while a few days ago, i would say its actually a pretty well made gamemode, and tbh its relatively fun.
i just dont think it should of been a focus.

[bronze stirrup]

I think they missed the point

[hexed mango]

that it isnt for battlefield

yes

[dire quest]

Instead of 1/3rd of dev time being spent on each of aow, hz and portal, they could have spent 50% working on aow and portal

[hexed mango]

i mean i doubt it was this much, but still with the fact that they had individual studios working on their own, removing HZ and allowing them to work more together would of been better.

i think canning HZ's development was the right move for the time being

[outer anchor]

aow?

[hexed mango]

all out warfare, aka the main gamemode

[outer anchor]

oh

[hearty flame]

thats being generous to hz

[bronze stirrup]

HZ is probably months worth of wasted development

[hexed mango]

but tbh, it isnt really, as from what we know, multiple other studios worked on HZ, those hands could of been used to polish and refine aow or portal.

aka how they did it in bf4

[bronze stirrup]

Months that could've been put into making the game more stable on release at the very least

[hexed mango]

precisely

[fallen pendant]

Dude

[hexed mango]

Dude

[arctic grove]

Dude

[hearty flame]

theres so little extra added to hz that i doubt much resources were spent on it
use existing maps, use existing ai, drop things to gather and create an extract and market. thats about it

[fallen pendant]

You have COMPLETELY forgotten about our schedule to play 2042

Right...?

[hexed mango]

i never agreed to play with you.

[fallen pendant]

;-;

[worthy inlet]

[fallen pendant]

Wait

Lemme check the dm

[bronze stirrup]

A whole currency system and the coding behind it to unlock everything

[arctic grove]

Borbius you signed the contract

[velvet sand]

invisible ink, bro

you forgot to use the disappearing, reappearing ink like Mr. Acme told you to

[hearty flame]

which probably isnt that hard given that they are using existing items from the mp and just need to assign values to items for unlocking and then lock them again if the player dies

[bronze stirrup]

I think you underestimate how much time coding can really take

[hexed mango]

you said you had problems with gunplay, i suggested testing guns in coop.

[hexed mango]

i know from experience

[hearty flame]

Im not but im saying that the amount of work that goes into hz wouldnt have really improved things on aow that much if it had be reallocated

[hexed mango]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

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[bronze stirrup]

And I'm just gonna have to disagree. When it comes down to it we're not the devs but HZ in an entirety was a waste of effort imo with how we got it and yeah those hands could've been used on literally anything else.

[hexed mango]

polish is polish

any little bit helps

and again, if they had focused all the development from HZ into AOW, it would of helped out

[hearty flame]

i can agree that hz was a waste of effort

[hearty flame]

i mean thats making some assumptions that we have no proof of

[lusty temple]

Does irish's sentry stop Sundance scatter grenades?

[hexed mango]

i mean there are quite a bit of additional features in HZ, there are literal meteor-like crashes from satellites, imagine if instead of making those the drops, they had that be real meteor storms in AOW....

plus, all the gadgets that are exclusive to hz

[hexed mango]

yes

[dire quest]

By exploding?

[hexed mango]

they just disappear basically

[velvet sand]

They'd have had to radically change maps so they weren't maxed out on budget like they all apparently are, heh.

[bronze stirrup]

Isn't there downed crawling in HZ aswell

I bet that took some time.

[hexed mango]

i mean that can be done easily, asset count doesnt mean the layout has to stay the same

[velvet sand]

Which still blows my mind they maxed out all the maps and didn't give themselves any breathing room for adjustments without needing to cut assets.

[hexed mango]

its also in portal

[lusty temple]

The sentry kills you first so that the Sundance won't be able to take the kill

[hexed mango]

(as an option)

sentry also stops C5 now

[velvet sand]

Easily? Bruh, it took them like 4 months to redo Kaleidoscope in part because they had to find places to save assets >.>

[hexed mango]

easily in the sense that its possible.

[velvet sand]

Though I'm still convinced some of that is due to Frostbite making everything take forever, but that's just my unfounded suspicion.

[hearty flame]

haha weird way to use easily

[velvet sand]

so...not easily, but possibly : P

[hexed mango]

like, if hz was never an influence on the maps, the layout could of been different, i mean the influence would of easily changed the vision.

[hearty flame]

thats assuming that 2042 maps were built around hz and not the other way around

[hexed mango]

doing it is a different step, but the actual idea from the get go being different would of lead to drastically different layouts

[lusty temple]

I'm pretty sure hazard zone is what made the maps considerably big in the first place

[hexed mango]

i mean they kinda said they were... there was a tweet from a map designer iirc that said they wanted that more open layout to work for both aow and hz

[fossil trench]

Yep

Very helpful

[velvet sand]

I'm skeptical, given that they apparently were caught off guard by how much people disliked the massive maps and wanted maps with more cover and CQC opportunities.

[hexed mango]

yeah because they thought they were doing the good thing by having hz

which obviously isnt the case

but they probably assumed people would be more attracted to the idea
which is also stupid, because of firestorm

[velvet sand]

I'm not remotely sold on the, "It's all the fault of HZ" argument vs. "Leads made a lot of really dumb, awful, no good decisions and it's as simple as that."

[dire quest]

Why is renewal getting reworked next tho? Why not hourglass?

[hearty flame]

dont forget the 5v5 competitive mode too borb

[hexed mango]

i think its both.

[bronze stirrup]

It's almost like if we wanted to play something like EoT or BRs we'd just go play those games instead. It's repetitive at this point that so many IPs are trying to abandon their own identity for what honestly is turning into a niche playerbase.

[hexed mango]

hz itself is a stupid idea

[velvet sand]

It was supposed to be reworked for S1 but got delayed. Hourglass...is happening later because it's a disaster that will take too much time to fix (devs basically said so).

[fossil trench]

Hourglass is beyond fixing

[hexed mango]

nuke that map

[velvet sand]

They're doing Orbital/Manifest before Hourglass because both of those are easier to improve so they can pump the "We've updated X maps in Y time!" numbers

[hexed mango]

all i hope for is this:

• new maps are as good as exposure
• reworks can help make the shitty maps less shitty
• bug fixes
• content

for aow.

i dont care about hz as long as aow gets the polish it needs

[arctic grove]

It’s as shrimple as that

[hexed mango]

shrimp

🦐

[hearty flame]

dont forget to add getting anything beyond s4

[fossil trench]

Hourglass would need like a complete redesign lol

[velvet sand]

honestly...and I'm sorry to say this for HZ fans...I wish DICE actually abandoned it as they said they were going to and didn't keep spending time working on features like AI tank bosses and stuff

[hexed mango]

• content
  should include that

[hexed mango]

yeah, same. i dunno why they keep pushing updates for it

[arctic grove]

An AI tank doesn’t seem that, demanding to put into HZ

[hexed mango]

its possible that those "updates" are old ones that never got pushed to the latest build

and since they have them, just push them

[hearty flame]

if they had worked on firestorm the way they worked on hz maybe it wouldnt have died so fast

[edgy oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbT6qUpROnI

[fossil trench]

Yeah I feel like the Kaleidoscope map redesign was a dripfeed

[hexed mango]

joe

[fossil trench]

To keep players active rather than when it’s ready

[hexed mango]

tbh its nice, i think the layout (new) is really good specifically for breakthrough
but there are areas that didnt get the polish they deserved

i think B sector is amazing now

[bronze stirrup]

I mean they did change quite a bit of the base geometry

[hexed mango]

but D is missing stuff and so is C

[bronze stirrup]

It's not just random scattered assets

[hexed mango]

yeah i enjoy kaleido

its a step in the right direction, i just wish more maps were like it

[bronze stirrup]

it has decent flow now tbh

[hexed mango]

and tbh im really looking forward to the renewal updates, as the satellite tower area looks really cool

[outer anchor]

move the stadium in the middle on hour glass

plz dice

[hexed mango]

fr

[outer anchor]

stadium is fun to fight in

[hexed mango]

and move those town buildings closer together

and make more of them

[arctic grove]

Yes

More buildings

I beg them

[bronze stirrup]

remove the city altogether

[hexed mango]

maybe add a half destroyed large building

[velvet sand]

make hourglass just a bunch of connected stadiums

[hexed mango]

or an under-construction one with exposed scaffolding

[bronze stirrup]

let us fight it out in the dunes and the little buildings

[dire quest]

Remove all buildings, flat sand only

[hexed mango]

i think the buildings on hourglass need more visible destruction

[fossil trench]

What even is Hourglass supposed to be?

[hexed mango]

like they need to be more torn apart by the storm

[bronze stirrup]

I just avoid the city any time I get the map

[velvet sand]

a city reclaimed by the desert

[hexed mango]

Doha, Qatar but overrun by sand storm / desert

[alpine swallow]

2042 destruction is lacking in general

[bronze stirrup]

I play between the bridge and the village

[fossil trench]

It’s like a bunch of unrelated places in one map

[arctic grove]

Doha but Doha is like

[hearty flame]

turn hourglass into dubai from spec ops the line. have big sandstorms and sand swallowing the buildings

[arctic grove]

In the nonplayable area

[hexed mango]

i mean most the small buildings have pretty decent destruction

but yes

like on hourglass, the small town buildings can be pretty much all destroyed

[fossil trench]

Hourglass just has zero flow

[hexed mango]

but the larger buildings arent at all phased by explosions

[dire quest]

Too much destruction ruins a map, let's be real

[arctic grove]

Nor do they need to be tbh

[hexed mango]

it can indeed

[alpine swallow]

@dire quest depends on the map

[bronze stirrup]

honestly

[hexed mango]

i think exposure does a good job at making the map just absolutely amazing, to where destruction isnt a concern (as its already destroyed lol)

[velvet sand]

ain't no bandwidth for that, probably. But it would be nice if they actually like...looked proper worn down and stuff

[bronze stirrup]

like not enough levolution is somehow a complaint when all people did with levolution in bf4 is complain about it

[alpine swallow]

Enough natural cover allows destruction to work

[dire quest]

Siege of Shanghai after the tower collapsed was shit, so was flood zone when it flooded

[alpine swallow]

BF4 destruction was annoying

Remember when the game just killed you when you were inside a building that was about to collapse?

[dire quest]

Yee lol

[bronze stirrup]

Why would DICE waste their time on it if players just complain about it and never do it

[hexed mango]

i mean like broken glass

[alpine swallow]

Bf1 and V destruction is pretty good.

[white geyser]

I died in the collapsing building and it was the China map in BF4

[alpine swallow]

Ya, all you need to do is put 1 inch of your hitbox in a building and it kills you

[dire quest]

Would've been nice to fall with the building inside it

[hexed mango]

Siege of Shanghai?

[alpine swallow]

They changed it from scripted destruction to phased destruction in bf1.

[white geyser]

Yeah

[mental delta]

https://twitter.com/tenskgaming/status/1557296238566965248?t=NwaXSF2toU-xNfvRN0KfFg&s=33

That would be so cool

But unfortunately there's only going to be one map

[velvet sand]

know what would be a neat feature? a matchmaking option to say, "try not to place me on a server with the same map that I just finished playing."

[cosmic sequoia]

increase attack chopper amount

[outer anchor]

try to not place me on one of your trash map\

siege of shangai would be sickkkkk

I wish the middle building wouldnt collapse though

[mental delta]

I tried playing right now and ended up in a high ping server because there's no server browser, everything about that game is frightening

[fringe lily]

I just realized, since we never knew what happened to Recker in bf4, we could possibly have him in 2042, possibly voiced by Ryan Reynolds again.

[worthy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[vast cloak]

@solar obsidian PC MASTER RACE

[solar obsidian]

[arctic grove]

yuuus

[solar obsidian]

pc so great, it never needed a sequel

[violet meteor]

Somebody poisoned the water hole

[tepid agate]

Wth steam members have 2042 at 4.7k players 👀 Season 2 need to hurry up

BF1 - 9.3k
BFV - 16.4k

[fiery solar]

Why couldn’t next gen players play at 120fps in hazard zone

[regal marsh]

host an exprience using this code aaxvrt

made using the portal

[plucky pebble]

cuz the game is bad

[upper socket]

Cant in any mode lol

Too enefficent

Didnt you see the podcast

[fiery solar]

No I don’t watch any of those

It’s just the low player count that gave me the thought of why they couldn’t have 120fps in a mode with little players in it

[regal marsh]

how well the the game runs on these specs Intel core i-5, AMD Radeon M440,1 TB hdd and 120 GB ssd and 8 Gb ram

[tepid agate]

Can people even get into hazard zone?

[fiery solar]

I tried once and we ran into 2 squads of bots only

[violet meteor]

Most people play 2042 on origin anyway

[fiery solar]

Didn’t even know they had exposure in hazard zone

[solar obsidian]

some devs focus on 120fps on consoles, others dont,

if framerate is very important to you, its plain easy, you dont buy a console,

[fiery solar]

I never said i was important lol

[tepid agate]

Yeah that's why I said "steam" players. It's a huge difference in numbers. Wish we could get more data than only steam players

[fiery solar]

It

[tepid agate]

I think I only have 1 hour playing time in that mode, was around launch

[violet meteor]

Why

[solar obsidian]

i also said IF

[fiery solar]

Couldn’t even get to a game on launch

[violet meteor]

Who gives a shit

[fiery solar]

Yeah

[tepid agate]

Obviously you're not interested and obviously I am because I looked for numbers. It's interesting to see for me . Stats

[violet meteor]

Well you'll be happy to know people still play the game

[tepid agate]

That's why the recent update, the best thing better than that map rework was player stats. Stats are interesting

[fiery solar]

No fun in looking at low numbers all day

[violet meteor]

Also

Buy more boins

[tepid agate]

Right :((

[violet meteor]

Your country depends on you

[tepid agate]

https://c.tenor.com/I4i5J7_tNfoAAAAM/andy-davidson-andy.gif

Just so you know I do play this game lol I am 99.8 on the season pass. Should complete it tonight then can take a break until season 2

[solar obsidian]

those stats are like such a little part of the whole story,
more keystores in pc is selling origin keys,
bf2042 also have cross play, and we dont even have the combined numbers of the consoles,

there are plenty playing bf2042,

[fiery solar]

Surely there’s a monitor with a screen of all total players at hq covered in dust

[violet meteor]

I was dying to know thanks

[fiery solar]

Season 2 Is what date?

[tepid agate]

It's the only stats to go by unfortunately. Wish there were more

[tepid agate]

Happy to help

[violet meteor]

Yes you said that 5 minutes ago

[solar obsidian]

they started removing stat tracking for most games, simply because the consumers have a very bad habbit of hurting sales with spreading fake news like "game is dead"

[tepid agate]

But I wasn't responding to you this time...

[violet meteor]

I thought next month, but at any rate it'll be nice to turn crossplay off for a couple weeks

[tepid agate]

Why can't you turn crossplay off?

[violet meteor]

I can, I choose not to right now

[tepid agate]

You say it would be nice to turn crossplay off as if you can't do it right now lol

[fiery solar]

Do people actually turn off cross play enough to where your game won’t just be ai

[violet meteor]

When big updates and seasons come out yes

[fiery solar]

Why

[tepid agate]

I always have crossplay on

Takes too long to find matches on consal

[violet meteor]

Cuz pc players farm console players lol

So I get a couple weeks of playing with just ps players

[tepid agate]

Why wait for an update to turn it off you could do it anytime as you say

[violet meteor]

Because they made crossplay to where ps and Xbox can't play with each other, and there aren't many ps5 players given how hard it is to get one still

[plucky pebble]

ez clap

[violet meteor]

So it's either play with everyone and get stomped by pc, or play with ps5 and ai after a couple weeks

[hexed mango]

hello my fellow gamers

[tepid agate]

Maybe because the player base is lower than the other battlefy 😄

Oh Mr Boris

[hexed mango]

battlefy

[fiery solar]

If only more games on console had keyboard and mouse support

[hexed mango]

it has more than bf4

[plucky pebble]

wheres morb what you did to him

[violet meteor]

Idk, all I know is I get to play full ps games when big updates and seasons come out and the player count surges

I take advantage of that opportunity

[tepid agate]

Understanding I think BF4 was almost 10 years old plenty of other games out there to play lol

[hexed mango]

Morb is gone; I am what remains

[plucky pebble]

blasphemy

[violet meteor]

Even if a new Battlefield came out tomorrow you could say that exact same thing

Shit logic

[tepid agate]

So steam numbers carry some weight, especially for us ps5 players lol

[violet meteor]

Idk what you're on about

[tepid agate]

If they changed specialists for classes.... Watch the 2042 numbers rise

[violet meteor]

They wont

[hexed mango]

eh maybe not really

[violet meteor]

Ever

[hexed mango]

specialists are classes

[tepid agate]

😄

[hexed mango]

i think teamplay would be broke regardless

and not because of specialists

but because of a lack of incentive

[tepid agate]

Theres hardly any team play in this anyways people mostly bleed out because it takes 7 seconds to jump back into the action

[hexed mango]

anyways im gonna preorder spiderman for pc

[tepid agate]

I bought DBZ fighterz yesterday lol

[hexed mango]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817070/Marvels_SpiderMan_Remastered/

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[violet meteor]

You can play Spiderman in 2042

[tepid agate]

I'd rather play Vegeta in 2042 lol

[violet meteor]

So anyway, @hexed mango

Did you buy your daily boins today?

[tepid agate]

👀

Remember when Devs said they understand the specialists are polarizing and break the immersion, so they will change their appearance and voices..... 😄 *Stare at the wall

[arctic grove]

Imagine selling a $60 game for the nice coat of paint

[violet meteor]

They do that with skyrim and the last of us all the time

It sells lol

[arctic grove]

True true

gonna wait until the remaster is on sale

will it be on xbox too?

[fiery solar]

No

[arctic grove]

I payed 40 bucks for the skyrim series x version

[arctic grove]

F

[fiery solar]

Do they update the graphics on Skyrim for series s

X or ps5

[tepid agate]

I thought Spiderman was free with the ea pass

[violet meteor]

Prolly do

Ima wait til I get my ps5vr to get skyrim again

Whenever that damn thing finally comes out lol

[fiery solar]

Is Skyrim just like gta5 with a remastered every few years

[violet meteor]

Yea

Meanwhile, still waiting on the next elder scrolls

[fiery solar]

Never played either

[violet meteor]

Can't wait to level up unarmed again by punching the hell out of my horse

https://tenor.com/view/wakaflocka-burka-horse-collapsed-knocked-out-gif-17534401

[arctic grove]

nope sadly. Only noteworthy thing is that it runs 60pfs and it loads in about 2 seconds

[violet meteor]

And to think, you could just spend that money on boins instead

[fiery solar]

The greater investment

[violet meteor]

Indeed

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/cmC9-qmElt8

This will help explain

[jaunty fjord]

Why does my character model change to the position of lying down and holding the gun when I am down?

I dont understand dice fix what

[tepid agate]

Taking cover from bullets

Have they fixed the butt cam also?

Sometimes when I am revived it happens

[jaunty fjord]

I don't understand why the last batch of people, old dice, brought new people to make a specialist system for the battlefield

Now tanks can be spoiled by jeeps

[tepid agate]

It's like a rectangular table with 3 legs. They move a leg to the empty corner as an update but creates the other problems

If they do more for boots in the ground players I'm all for it. I dont use vehicles much

[jaunty fjord]

I feel like 2042 will stop new content development like Battlefield 5 end after they promised a one year season pass

[violet meteor]

Depends on how the season releases go

But they have said they are in it for the long haul

[jaunty fjord]

This generation is really rotten, it is better to put resources on the next generation, hope it will not be worse than 2042

[tepid agate]

They will probably focus on the campaign game after the 4 seasons

We are almost half way there, hang in there

[jaunty fjord]

Do you mean that Battlefield is going to be e-sports?

[violet meteor]

Wut

No

[jaunty fjord]

I remember that both r6 and ow lost a lot of players because of e-sports.

[violet meteor]

The next battlefield will have a campaign

That's all xeno said

[jaunty fjord]

so it will become apexfield?

[violet meteor]

Do you know what a campaign is?

[tepid agate]

So they are separating mutliplayer and campaign node and charging us full price for both versions lol

[jaunty fjord]

I understand it as the champion of apex

[tepid agate]

It will probably follow the 2042 story with irish

[violet meteor]

The hell are you talking about

[hexed mango]

• for the ability to play it on pc

[edgy oriole]

Unless they find a completely new irish i doubt it.

[hexed mango]

rao is the main character

[violet meteor]

Yeah considering the dude who voices him is dead

[worthy inlet]

Angel is the main character

[velvet sand]

campaign was never initially planned. that got started well after launch as EA figured out how to try to salve 2042 and the "shared unvierse" they wanted to build

[jaunty fjord]

I see campaign as champion

[velvet sand]

those are different words

[violet meteor]

It's a single player mode with a story

What the fuck is going on

[tepid agate]

Will be interesting to see but I'm not falling for them cutting the cake in half and charging full price for both sides lol

We always got campaign and multiplayer in a game

[violet meteor]

What is "champion"

[jaunty fjord]

I know I'm just blinded

[velvet sand]

it's not some nefarious grand-strategy by EA. more 2042 games were expected after they announced the universe, and the campaign game Lehto's studio is leading seems more a reaction to 2042's...less than stellar launch than part of a carefully planned long-term roadmap for the franchise

shared universes/metaverses are just so hot right now

[fiery shoal]

alright, 2042 feels pretty good now

kal update pretty decent

[jaunty fjord]

Will this so-called Battlefield universe turn into an apex-style battle royale?

[violet meteor]

How would we know

[velvet sand]

nobody knows, but probably not. maybe you should go play apex

[violet meteor]

We didn't make the game

[fiery shoal]

why would EA want two apex style BR games?

yes, lets compete against ourselves...

[jaunty fjord]

i dont like br game

[tepid agate]

It's a shame. Would have been fine if 2042 blew us away at launch

[arctic grove]

2042 looked like a apex knock off in beta.

[violet meteor]

Well then it's a good thing 2042 isn't a br game

[tepid agate]

They failed br in bfV

[violet meteor]

And in 2042

[arctic grove]

partially was when HZ was a thing but then it was killed off like Firestorm

[violet meteor]

Beat you to it :P

[fiery shoal]

not even close..

[jaunty fjord]

specialist system should put in hazard zone should not in other basic game mode

[fiery shoal]

which sucked because i actually liked firestorm

[arctic grove]

For the sake of just getting opinions, we should make a poll and see what people here think.

[hexed mango]

specialists > classes

[violet meteor]

Actually, most of the specialists are like the apex characters in terms of gadgets/abilities

[jaunty fjord]

Popular specialist are always those

[tepid agate]

They took toooo long to introduce it that everything else evolved

[fiery shoal]

"specialists" are just a subgenre of classes...

[tepid agate]

Left it as *coming soon

[hexed mango]

exactly.

[tepid agate]

💀

[fiery shoal]

wow.. so a single aspect of game design compared to the other hundreds?

[jaunty fjord]

They should put the specialist system variant of swbf2 into the base game mode

[hexed mango]

personally speaking i think that specialists should have an actual "traditional" class system built into them, but specialists themselves should not be removed

[tepid agate]

That's the biggest aspect differentiator lol

[violet meteor]

Well they did have a hand in apex as well so I'm not surprised

[fiery shoal]

so specialists within locked loadouts instead of open loadouts like they are now? ive been asking for that since launch

[tepid agate]

I bet the steam numbers would drop if they put this specialist formula in bfV 😄

[fiery shoal]

or its like theres not a lot of ways to differentiate abilities in a fps game... how many other games that have abilities can you draw comparisons from too? bloodhounde wasnt the first character to have an AOE spot ability fyi...

[hexed mango]

eh sorta... i like the open loadouts personally. however i think it would be cool to play as a medic and then play as rao
so i can revive and heal, but also hack

or someone could play assault, and something with assault as a passive, and then some other specialist

problem with this system is that it doesnt work very well with how the game currently is... But, idk it might make reddit happy

i am fine with specialists as is, i just think something needs to be done for teamplay

[violet meteor]

I'm just noting a comparison, don't get your panties in a bunch

[arctic grove]

Reddit Moment but i agree with this

[fiery shoal]

they both have moment and you shoot guns...

[violet meteor]

Indeedibly

[violet meteor]

Nice you made another comparison

Good dog

[fiery shoal]

am i cool now?

[violet meteor]

Nah, buy more boins

[tepid agate]

I'm actually tired of the specialist debate been an ongoing thing since the launch lol

[fiery shoal]

if they added specialists to a locked loadout system i doubt people would have complained as hard

[violet meteor]

But they didnt

So cope and seethe

Buy boins

[tepid agate]

Agree that's why steam has man more members playing older Battlefields

[arctic grove]

ONLY when they release more Boris skins. (Preferably Santa Boris)

[violet meteor]

No

[fiery shoal]

i dont think people really have a problem with specialists, its just everything else that was changed at once that just added fuel

[violet meteor]

Buy all the content you can

[arctic grove]

Im poor

Im not a whale

[tepid agate]

Like the Devs said, they are polarizing and break the immersion

[fiery shoal]

i thought 2042 had more players since season 1, bfv only gets a huge boost during asia time zones, likely because it was free for the longest time

[tepid agate]

Must find a way to tackle the team play issues as Boris said

[tepid agate]

It did at the start but dropped again

Even bf1 has 2x as many steam players

[fiery shoal]

sucks for people that want to play 2042 but cant find servers

you can only imagine that theres way more players on origin for the older titles too

[violet meteor]

Nothing another season can't fix

[tepid agate]

We can still find servers but must have crossplay on

[violet meteor]

For a couple weeks anyway :P

[fiery shoal]

oh i can too, im talking about OCE regions at night though

[violet meteor]

Then the player count will drop again

[fiery shoal]

being na west basically means any game i want to play will at least have a couple of servers

[tepid agate]

You seen the bfV browser page? Literally over 100 full servers lol

[arctic grove]

Im positive we can all agree that despite 2042 having a low steam count it beats Halo Infinite by a long shot

[tepid agate]

Only around 20 in my region though

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah it's easy af to find servers here for 2042

[tepid agate]

What is halo at on Steam? Lol

[violet meteor]

I'm not paying attention to any of that, just tryna get this BP to 100

[hexed mango]

even my friend that plays halo infinite would agree

[fiery shoal]

infinite at 6k players now and peak

[arctic grove]

1k or less but i need someone to fact check me

oh ok thanks

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah a new update came out for Infinite like one or two days ago

[arctic grove]

makes sense

[tepid agate]

Wow they are at 2042 before season 1 launch lol

[copper fulcrum]

It was just balance changes

And now more variety with visors

[arctic grove]

Maybe EA will finally see and think: Content = More Players

[tepid agate]

Season 1 for 2042 propelled steam numbers right behind bfV which was impressive, but it was clearly just a curiosity as players are now at 4.7k while bfV is consistent at 18k

[hexed mango]

🧠

[tepid agate]

Imagine bfV got another live update omg

[violet meteor]

That's what I've been saying

[arctic grove]

Big brain from EA

[violet meteor]

Big updates and seasons raise the player count

Then people get bored

It goes down again

[hexed mango]

tbh tho, all things considered, i think this game is in a relatively decent position to go up

[violet meteor]

Yeah

[tepid agate]

But it's what I mean bfV get no new updates but are still consistently higher so it's not really new content it's how the game plays

[arctic grove]

Which is why they need to keep pumping undates and content. Why do u think Fortnut has a huge player base? They keep pumping updates and content.

[tepid agate]

I reckon bfV would take over 30k on Steam with a new update

[arctic grove]

EA just wants to make easy money without any work effort

negative Nancy's in chat

[violet meteor]

Well I don't think the devs have that ability right now

[hexed mango]

reddit moment

[arctic grove]

No they dont. EA does.

[violet meteor]

Good luck

[arctic grove]

who?

[tepid agate]

Me

[arctic grove]

Exactly

can we pump up the positivity cause we are comming up on 1 Year since release

[violet meteor]

Literally every day and every hour in this chat. Get used to it.

It's an echo chamber

[arctic grove]

Agreed but as soon as they pump up the content

[hexed mango]

still like 3 months away ngl

[tepid agate]

Don't remind me this game should be way ahead but it's still in repair

[arctic grove]

Its way ahead of schedule. Trust us fam

Have you maxed out any gun badges?

[tepid agate]

Omg not that line

[arctic grove]

Did you finish your battlepasses

[tepid agate]

I maxed 3 or 4

[arctic grove]

Which ones?

[arctic grove]

That line is forever living rent free in my brain

[tepid agate]

It's a damn nightmare

[violet meteor]

Nothing like telling people what to feel to bring positivity here

[arctic grove]

The black and Red is so fire

[tepid agate]

I don't know the names

[arctic grove]

You don't know what guns you main?

O

[tepid agate]

Switching topic fast than a light switch

[violet meteor]

I don't either

[tepid agate]

No I just fire and kill lol

[arctic grove]

I like Turret

So you snipe or run and gun smg?

I like Russian Bear

[violet meteor]

Kinda just use whatever the missions call for

[tepid agate]

Actually, I assist. I have more assists than kills some how

[arctic grove]

Youre probably enjoying Paik then

shes great at assists.

[tepid agate]

I stop using them when they are tier 1

Unless they help with a weekly mission

Only dozer and Liz left so I use them

[arctic grove]

I still have a few weekly's I can't get done.

shotguns.. omg.

[violet meteor]

Breakthrough is good for shotguns

[arctic grove]

Oh ye?

[solar obsidian]

i did that in the first map

[arctic grove]

:cries:

[solar obsidian]

conquest on the revamped map

[tepid agate]

I do them on the day usually. I am 99.8 on the battlepass so. I think I can just play one game tonight then take a 3 week break until season 2

[solar obsidian]

the pump action shotgun

[arctic grove]

pumpy. Noted.

[solar obsidian]

paik

[tepid agate]

I used to think He'll Let Loose was too slow but bloody hell so much teamwork and fun

Funny when I was in a tank with 2 Russians giving me instructions where to shoot 😄

[violet meteor]

Anyway

That renewal rework can't come soon enough

US side on breakthrough is atrocious

[tepid agate]

Not excited been playing that map since launch I'd rather they scrap and just give more new maps

[bitter skiff]

Is season 1 over?

[tepid agate]

3 weeks

[bitter skiff]

TY

[arctic grove]

Youd be hard pressed to finish it in 3 weeks

[tepid agate]

Waiting for season 2?

[arctic grove]

But you can do it.

[violet meteor]

Won't take long

[bitter skiff]

They wanna move on I reckon

[tepid agate]

0.2? Lol easy

[violet meteor]

Portal that shit

[tepid agate]

They will after 4 seasons

That's like next may though seems sooooo far away

[bitter skiff]

4?

[tepid agate]

Yup

[bitter skiff]

TY

[hexed mango]

next game wont come out for like 2 years after that tho

[tepid agate]

Hope the make bfV live seasons again

[violet meteor]

They wont

They completely abandoned that

[hexed mango]

rate my art

[tepid agate]

I know, just a wish. 2042 will die fast without live service

[violet meteor]

Needs more boin icons

[arctic grove]

10/10

[violet meteor]

👍

[tepid agate]

Yup still more assists lol #stats

Maybe tonight I get more kills

[hexed mango]

can we all agree that the one change that will bring 100000000000000 players to the game is to make the ranger run as fast as it did in the trailer

[arctic grove]

Upvote ^

xD

[tepid agate]

Let rangers run up skyscrapers when you take the elevator

Or zipline

[arctic grove]

Its a good thing we are not Game Devs and we can just chill and enjoy the content. Hoping for some new guns on season 2 tbh

[tepid agate]

I glad I am not a franchise killer 😄 🍻

[hexed mango]

https://youtu.be/1fh9_sm1YKo

[tepid agate]

Wonder if 2042 will put fun easter eggs inside

[arctic grove]

I bet there already is

😛

[tepid agate]

Just nobody found them

[arctic grove]

too busy complaining i presume

[hexed mango]

there are atleast 2 secret reload animations ive found so far

[tepid agate]

Nah playing other titles lol

[hexed mango]

one for the M44 and one for the PBX

[tepid agate]

I got no idea what they are lol gun is a fun for me 😄

[hexed mango]

M44 is revolver

PBX is smg

[tepid agate]

Sweet maybe I try later

I always use the rapid smg

[hexed mango]

ive only gotten each of those animations once tho

M44's is that your character will spin the revolver around and spin the chamber before reloading

PBX is a bit more funny, the magazine will just go through the top of the gun, and then your guy does an 👌

[arctic grove]

Theres some audio ones.

[hexed mango]

i suggest everyone watch this

[arctic grove]

Im stealing it

[hexed mango]

i think it will make you think twice about hating 2042 animations ngl

[tepid agate]

I never hate them anyways lol

Waiting for the next battlefield friends video they are always entertaining

[next onyx]

IS anyone getting random lag spikes?

[hexed mango]

https://www.artstation.com/oskarwetterbrandt

i havent played today so idk way, sorry

https://youtu.be/XP_YoQbV5Ww

[solar obsidian]

the force where strong in this one

[hexed mango]

apparently these are animations that they never added to the game, but made only for fun

[hexed mango]

https://youtu.be/QQSr1oNMKWw
this is in the game tho

[copper fulcrum]

At one point the Handgun was deadlier than the FG-42

[hexed mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EskOQxr7IS0

[tepid agate]

Painful reload

[violet meteor]

Boris is the most useless specialist

[tepid agate]

Because ...

[solar obsidian]

dozer is

[tepid agate]

Lucky I got him to tier 1 before the nerf