battlefield-2042

[velvet sand]

medic. Support doesn't inherently have to be medic and there are a lott of other optoins for that role

[hearty flame]

if they do that then dice is gonna hear and feel the same complaints as 2042 lauch

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand Assault was typically the medic class

[arctic grove]

It was weird how assault was Medic in BF4

[velvet sand]

Marcus Lehto (former Halo guy who also made Disintegration that...didn't do well, sadly) is building a team in Seattle for a narrative entry in the 2042 universe.

[outer anchor]

imagine putting in your CV that you designed breakaway, hourglass and that the specialist was your idea, even mcdonalds wouldnt want you

[hearty flame]

the seattle studio is supposedely doing narrative stuff

also lol at dice thinking that making a narrative is gonna make enough people care about specialists

[velvet sand]

big dislike, assault always seems more like the purely offensive oriented class in terms of theming (or at least it should be). I don't think your average person would hear "assault class" and go "ah yes, the class that heals and revives people"

[mental delta]

Wtf that doesn't make sense, BF2042 is a mess and nobody would even pay for a solo version of an already messed up game

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[mental delta]

That sounds dumb, they should actually try to improve BF2042 or just give up on it

[alpine swallow]

Assault was typically the infantry focused class. So ya being medic made sense

[arctic grove]

Split it into a dedicated medic class and I’d be fine with that

[velvet sand]

It's a mess. But this was announced around launch time before 2042 ended up being the mess it was, there was a plan to make 2042 an "anchor" experience and build connected experiences to it. Similar to what Ubi wants to do with AC Infinite

[outer anchor]

lmao desintegration

hes working on the next battlefield?

[velvet sand]

different studio/team dude, they're not working on 2042 proper

[untold token]

Anybody know why cross play is down?

[mental delta]

What do you mean by connected experiences ?

[hearty flame]

supposedely i think that the seasons were supposed to be story oriented kinda like warzones seasons. but thats just a rumor i heard i thik

[arctic grove]

I think crabmen means to say bring them over to 2042

[velvet sand]

set in the 2042 universe using the existing specialists and narrative/storyline (lol), will probably have some kind of shared progression system or perks that transfer between the two games. they haven't announced specifics so it could be anything, though.

[hearty flame]

i cant imagine dice doing enough for 2042 for anyone to want a connected experience

[outer anchor]

lol

[mental delta]

Yes with HZ being the thing that brings up the stories but it ended up with HZ disappearing and unfortunately we never got a new exodus video

[alpine swallow]

Anyone play Hazard Zone?

[solid imp]

RIP MKW :(

[arctic grove]

Need new exodus video

Imagine if the solo missions are based on the 2042 specialists

[mental delta]

I hope we'll see BF6 in 2024 rather than a narrative game on BF2042

[velvet sand]

EA's taking the same approach with 2042 and a "connected universe" than DC did in their attempts to replicate the MCU...in that they're trying to rush to the end before doing the actual setup work necessary and it's likely to blow up in their faces as DC's film efforts largely have : |

[hearty flame]

eh Id say its a good thing for dice to focus on trying to fix 2042 rather than making videos no one really cares for at the moment

[hearty flame]

ya I remember that ea wanted to make a battlefield universe lol

[mental delta]

Yes it's necessary, we still want to see who is OZ

[velvet sand]

metaverses/connected universes are so hot right now! zoolander.jpg

[solid imp]

Michael K Williams (Irish)

[mental delta]

Sure but a new update to the lore would be enjoyed

[velvet sand]

there's no real delivery vehicle for that in the game though?

[hearty flame]

eh for the dozens of people who care at this point

[coral echo]

Tank superiority is fun

[mental delta]

What ?

[alpine swallow]

When does the next season release?

[velvet sand]

IIRC pre-launch they talked about wanting maps to "evolve" over seasons to reflect them becoming increasing wartorn and the affects of climate change etc. but...I imagine those plans have been completely scrapped now. That was supposed to be at least some storytelling through map narratives.

[mental delta]

September

[coral echo]

But I feel like an airsoft gun shoots faster than the shells

[alpine swallow]

@mental delta how long are seasons

[low timber]

12 weeks

[alpine swallow]

So the final season should be in March?

[velvet sand]

for Y1, yes.

[alpine swallow]

There isnt gonna be a Y2

[bronze steeple]

Angel is my man

[alpine swallow]

DICE will probably announce that March is the final season and end support. Just like BFV

[hearty flame]

hallelujah

[mental delta]

3 months

[bronze steeple]

Lol it will release november 2023 so long time bro

[arctic grove]

I feel like that would’ve needed a lot more time to make happen

[alpine swallow]

@bronze steeple why spend money on a game no one plays

[arctic grove]

Maybe if the game hadn’t launched last holiday it could’ve happened

[mental delta]

I hope so dude, I hope so 🤞

[bronze steeple]

I enjoy it and many with me

[alpine swallow]

If they werent obligated to release shit I guarantee support would have ended already.

[hearty flame]

dice can barely rework a map a season with "all hands on deck" how they gonna rework maps for narrative purposes lol

[alpine swallow]

They will put the bare minimum in the next seasons.

[tame cobalt]

That is still the plan

[hearty flame]

god i hope EA chokes on it

[alpine swallow]

No reason spending money on a game no on is playing and losing numbers by the day.

[tame cobalt]

I don't

[velvet sand]

yo, everything aside, I miss the DICE that worked on 2042 in Nov/Dec last year. Meaty weekly patches that addressed tons of problems and bugs that made it feel like the studio cared and was actually busting their butts to fix their mistakes. I'm sad that DICE never seemed to come back from the holidays : (

[tame cobalt]

I hope it's good

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand tbh, I bet a majority have moved on to the next game.

[hearty flame]

lol we still have that dice lol. they just dont have as many bugs to patch now and need to do actual work instead of polishing

[arctic grove]

Not to mention they work on a monthly schedule for patches and what not

[velvet sand]

DICE GM says nah per her last round of interviews after S1 launched, "whole studio is on 2042". Then we have devs on social media talking about working on other secret projects so...yeah, I can't say I believe her at all.

[mental delta]

The maps from the narrative entry are supposed to be the same as BF2042 ones ? That already sounds like a joke to me

[velvet sand]

no, we have no real info about the narrative entry beyond "it's being made, will feature specialists, and will connect to 2042 somehow"

[hearty flame]

who knows really. im sure once 2042 crashed and burned all their plans went with it

[tame cobalt]

She meant to say "whole studio is making games set in the 2042 universe"

[alpine swallow]

"Love letter to the fans"

[velvet sand]

except they're not, since the only other 2042 game we know about is being made by the Seattle studio (plus Ripple I guess working on Portal still?)

[alpine swallow]

I go back and laugh at all the coping and defending people did during the beta.

[tame cobalt]

Seattle is making a campaign for the next bf

[hearty flame]

whered they say that?

[velvet sand]

hun, apparently falcks love gun heals rangers...that's new.

[alpine swallow]

Remember when people said the beta was like 4 months old?

[tame cobalt]

I made it up

[hearty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[arctic grove]

Trust us Fam

[velvet sand]

I remember when EA used taht line to defend the Anthem beta and it was just as BS back then : P

[tame cobalt]

Ripple is barely working on portal, they're making their own ip

[alpine swallow]

Remember when EA said that 2042 was "well ahead schedule"

[hearty flame]

I bet ripple will be happy to move beyond being a BF support studio

[tame cobalt]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Remember they cut support short bfv and swbf2 for 2042?

and was already 3 years in progress?

[alpine swallow]

LOL

[mental delta]

So it's sure the project already started or will start soon ? And do you think it will affect BF 2024 ?

[alpine swallow]

Remember when they said they wont make a campaign so they can focus fully on MP?

[tame cobalt]

I bet they weren't happy when they were already supposed to make their own ip but got called in to make portal to add some value to 2042

[hearty flame]

"no campaign so more mp content" LOL

[alpine swallow]

And then enlisted like 4 other companies to help them.

Looking back is so funny tbh

[glad mulch]

What BP tier are you guys on?

[alpine swallow]

All the bullshit. Idk how people buy it still

[mental delta]

Lol they just chose to cut campaign because they had no choice and they try to make us think it was a real decision

[hearty flame]

some people have no value beyond satisfying the bing bing wahoo chemicals in their brain

[mental delta]

I really hope season gets us more content and especially in terms of weapons

[alpine swallow]

Idk what people get out of defending multibillion dollar companies

[velvet sand]

They're hiring for it, it's in pre-production and they're staffing up. So it's a ways off and will likely not impact 2042 directly from what we know.

[velvet sand]

not looking optimistic right now, they alreayd confirmed next season is again "one map"

[hearty flame]

hope for nothing and youll never be disappointed

[mental delta]

Ok ok good, and I was asking if it would affect BF 2024 not BF2042 lol

[hearty flame]

Are we even sure we're getting a bf2024 and not a bf2023

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand really?

I told you, they are putting in the bare minimum required to just get it over with then get out.

[velvet sand]

for what, one map for s2? Yes, they were clear about that in the 1.2 video update

plus a few of the launch maps being updated, Renewal and...I think they said either Orbital or Manifest since those need less work compared to something like Hourglass

[alpine swallow]

Not surprised

At this point, BF4 wouldve had 3 dlcs and like 12 maps

[mental delta]

Yeah I saw that and it's really disappointing

[velvet sand]

times are-a-changin

[arctic grove]

but premium is an evil scheme to split the base

Remember how much we got in BF1 and 4

The only problem with those games was that premium model was terrible

[hearty flame]

two games with "gaas" and we get next to nothing to show for it lol

[alpine swallow]

Lol

[hearty flame]

and EA still makes money hand over fist with no improvements on our end really

[mental delta]

Yes it is 2024 at least, I don't think we'll wait longer than that but it's at least 2024 and not 2023

[alpine swallow]

BF1 had 13 new maps by now iirc?

[hearty flame]

knowing ea, im betting theyre gonna try to push for a bf2023 lol

[velvet sand]

not from BF they're not, I don't think it even got a mention in their earnings report

[mental delta]

That would be a bad idea lol, I would rather see it coming in 2024

[arctic grove]

Yeah same

[hearty flame]

ya I think bf was like 10% or something in their reports

[mental delta]

Yes it didn't

[alpine swallow]

Imo, if we get another bf game like 2042, the franchise is over

[hearty flame]

well ea isnt us unfortunately

[arctic grove]

I wouldn’t mind 2042s setting in a game that’s based off criticisms 2042 had

[arctic grove]

I rather pay 15-20 bucks for 4 maps, weapons than whatever free stuff we get in 2042 and drip fed.

[hearty flame]

at this point i could see dice implementing complaints badly just to spite people

[mental delta]

Yes, I just don't think the new game could get more content than BF2042 at launch if they release it next year tbh

[velvet sand]

the fun thing is, it doesn't have to be an either/or, especially since BP's are increasingly shown to be equally, and often times MORE profitable than DLC's

[arctic grove]

2042 had a lot of hype since people thought they’d actually listen and do what we wanted lol

The model for success is so simple

[hearty flame]

well it could if 2042 is being run by a skeleton crew and everyone else is on bf2023

[arctic grove]

Well alright valid. But 1 map and 2 guns doesnt cut it for me

[velvet sand]

I agree, but given that they're likely not making much off BP's (and similarly wouldn't if they sold DLC), this is probably the best we're gonna get

[alpine swallow]

How true was it that 2042 was meant to be a br?

[mental delta]

Yes true I thought the same, I really want to know about their next project tbh

[velvet sand]

it's a rumor that a lot of people believe given the final results of development, but it's never been hard-confirmed from anything I've seen

[hearty flame]

dice is now one of the "wait a month after release" devs for me now

[arctic grove]

I mean I get why people thought that

[outer anchor]

even as a battle royal

can you imagine those specialists

they were all ugly, uncool and cringe

still are

but at least now you can cover their face

[mental delta]

Lol when they release something you have to wait 3 months before it gets playable, what a true way to treat their players

[velvet sand]

you keep my girl Falck's NAME, OUT YOUR GOSH DARN MOUTH

[outer anchor]

HAHAH

[hearty flame]

its a shame that there are few studios where the product works out of the box

[velvet sand]

Least cringe specialist of all time.

[arctic grove]

Irish and Casper are fine

Dozer too

[outer anchor]

dice man, what a studio now

[arctic grove]

They Butchered my wife Paik with that god awful squirrel cheeks

[hearty flame]

she was terrible in battlefront 2 and shes terrible now lol

[alpine swallow]

Here's how next game's marketing will be:

"We heard you"
"Back to Classic BF"
"Look at all the stuff we listened to you on"
"Heres something completely stupid that we did still "

[arctic grove]

Falk secretly works for the empire

[arctic grove]

Let’s wait and see

[velvet sand]

dude, I'm convinced that they outsourced a lot of the face designs (minus Boris and Rao maybe) to BioWare. Because these characters have big "weird-face" vibes common in BW games.

[arctic grove]

True

[hearty flame]

ugh dont even remind me about andromeda and those abominations

[velvet sand]

Paik looks like she'd fit right in with some of the hilariously bad FemShep face models

[outer anchor]

this one was supposed to be a love letter to all the fans

[lost snow]

fail

[little grove]

i love coming in here without context lmao

[velvet sand]

love letters aren't always good : P

[lost snow]

the only way i'm buying another BF game is if it's in a $5 bargain at wally's

[mental delta]

Unfortunately most of AAA games we buy nowadays are bugged and filled with additional cosmetics at launch, they definitely don't put efforts anymore on content and playability

[hearty flame]

this was a knockoff hallmark love letter lol

[lost snow]

Dear John...

[mental delta]

"We heard you and read all your feedbacks"
Proceeds to release specialists and six maps at launch

[hearty flame]

people are too used to the buy now patched later mentality

[velvet sand]

I'll defend the devs in the trenches on this because it's pretty bad for them, but yeah. This is a problem with bad leads and greedy publishers, and sadly the brunt of it falls on devs behind the scenes who are trying to do a 4-5 year dev cycle in 2 years. See that KOTOR remake that devs said needed 3 more years of development but was slated to launch in 1 year that just got delayed indefinitely

[hearty flame]

takes complaints about 2042 and adds them to new game
dials them to 22

[mental delta]

Lmao imagine receiving that kind of love letter from someone you appreciate, you end up with a depression

[arctic grove]

Yeah agreed

I wouldn’t say it’s the devs fault for that

[mental delta]

Yeah people got used to that type of system now, it shouldn't be here though

[hearty flame]

I mean its kinda hard to have sympathy for some devs when they make comments like "trust us fam"

[fiery shoal]

PORTAL is a love letter, not the entire 2042 game...

[arctic grove]

Also true, but who knows

Maybe were told to say that?

[velvet sand]

I'll agree on that (though homeboy has since left DICE, and he seems nice. I'm trying to find time to listen to a podcast he's on now). Was very annoyed at some devs going on their personal twitters and basically gaslighting fans unprompted : /

[hearty flame]

i think part of it is a natural progression from physical only launches to games that can be patched

[hearty flame]

its basically blizzard dev behavior but in its infancy

[fiery shoal]

on top of games being insanely more complicated then they were even 10 years ago

[mental delta]

Yes I agree publishers are the one responsible for that type of shit and that's sad, I heard EA especially asked developers to implement cosmetics elements in the game and all this time lost could have been spent on actual content, rushed games are never good anyway

[velvet sand]

well, that'd more be on the art team/technical artists etc. than teams working on things like maps or balance or vehicles so that doesnt' really explain much

[mental delta]

Lol I really hope the new game will be better than this one but I still doubt it

[fiery shoal]

studio sizes have grown a shit load, just graphics and tech alone is way more complicated, on top of actually having more complicated system like bullet travel vs hitscan. now add all that and the price of games are still generally 60 bucks too

[mental delta]

Yeah and that sucks unfortunately

[hearty flame]

Im just watching how dice is supporting 2042 and guessing its how theyll support the next bf at this point

[fiery shoal]

the people working on the engine, graphics, maps, balance, etc are not the same guys creating cosmetics...

[arctic grove]

Yeah they’re not

[mental delta]

The amount of content is really disturbing in this game, I really wonder what's happening at Dice offices

[mental delta]

Yeah I did a mistake, just surprised by the horrible amount of content in this game though

[arctic grove]

Until we see S2 I presume that content just got told to stop while dice worked on the game

[lost snow]

it all starts with some "visionary" with grand ideas and ends up with devs drinking gallons of red bull in a panicked crunch time

[velvet sand]

who knows, but I imagine it's still a bit chaotic. I'm still inclined to believe that part/a lot of it is down to Frostbite making things difficult given the historical reporting of how difficult it can be to work with, but I don't have any "hard data" to back that up

[fiery shoal]

it launched with 1 less map than bfv, which bfv launched with the same amount of maps as bf1 iirc

the real bad part is the weapon count in terms of content

[mental delta]

Maybe it will be different with BF6 if the game isn't a mess as big as BF2042

[hearty flame]

looks back at previous launches uhhh ya sure its not gonna be a mess at all lol

[velvet sand]

yeah, but BFV had a campaign tho. the expectation is that axing a campaign - which super time consuming according to developers - would result in a lot more multiplayer content overall, especially for AOW. Since Ripple handled Portal./

[lost snow]

pretty sad when it's more entertaining reading the chats than it is playing the $90 game...

[drowsy shuttle]

is it actually useful to play with boris? his sentry seems really underpower... or maybe im doing something wrong

[fiery shoal]

2042 is 60 bucks.. stop lying

[arctic grove]

Boris is alright but not really useful

[mental delta]

Yes I just hope situation gets better for the next game because they won't be eternally able to use the difficulty of using Frostbite as an excuse for everything

[fiery shoal]

sure, but its not like many people are buying bf games for me sp.. and bfv sp was just mini stories

[arctic grove]

His turret can kinda alert you if there’s an enemy on an objective though

[lost snow]

i fell for the hype and paid $90 twice

[fiery shoal]

thats your own damn fault, doesnt make the game 90 bucks though

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah... but thats pretty much it... and there are other options for that... it takes a while to start shooting...

[mental delta]

Yes but I am more so as pointed y weapons amount tbh, 22 weapons is laughable and it makes the game really bad

[lost snow]

you mean they overcharged me $30??

[hearty flame]

content is content

[velvet sand]

whether people buy it for the campaign or not is irrelevant. IIRC DICE was open about how time consuming those were to create, and that axing it would result in more multiplayer content for 2042. It was billed as an overall benefit for multiplayer, yet it resulted in negative benefits given the lack of "additional content" and the quality at launch

[mental delta]

It looks like a shitty situation

[little grove]

i bought ultimate on my pc. i have friends still on ps4. so i bought another ps4 AND THE GAME AGAIN. RIP ME NONE OF THEM PLAY ANYMORE LMAO

[arctic grove]

It isn’t the best for that at all agreed, it’s only something you can use him for tho is what I’m saying

[fiery shoal]

if you bought a higher tier version thats your fault.. dont try this weird "they charged me more" scenario

[hearty flame]

least we can sit here by the fire and eat some popcorn

[arctic grove]

He will probably be buffed in the future

[lost snow]

you're the one who said it only cost me $60...

[hearty flame]

dice? balance things properly? lol

[fiery shoal]

i dont think a lack of weapons makes a game bad.. its an example of an overall theme, but that alone isnt the determining factor

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah... well i can forget the tier 1 then... 60.000 damage with the sentry? thats ridiculous...

[arctic grove]

May not be balanced properly, but they’ll probably up him a bit

[lost snow]

all my friends think it's garbage, too

[fiery shoal]

yes the game was 60 bucks at launch, 70 for new gen, if you paid more for a higher tier thats your own lack of sensibility and you screwed yourself, no one else

cant believe this has to be said...

[lost snow]

and don't play it any more

[mental delta]

For a FPS AAA game it doesn't make it good for sure though

[lost snow]

no, ea screwed me

and a lot of others, too

[mental delta]

only thing to do I guess

[fiery shoal]

for sure, i wish 2042 was cheaper since it didnt have sp but idk, its a weird scenario for me at least, since i didnt touch bf sp ever

[lost snow]

i prepaid what EA said it cost for the gold edition and it turned out to be garbage

[hearty flame]

eh all they did was feed you the hype you wanted. the beta shouldve showed you how bad 2042 was gonna be

[velvet sand]

I'm fine with no campaign...if DICE at least delivered more multiplayer content at launch and not basically the same/slightly less overall compared to games with campaigns like BF1/V

[fiery shoal]

source on getting rid of sp meant more mp content or is that just a logical assumption?

[lost snow]

i expected a good product for the agreed upon price

and they didn't deliver

[hearty flame]

i usually touch the sp to see if they are as engaging as bc1/2. and they havent been yet. though 4 had unlocks behind the campaign iirc

[drowsy shuttle]

i agree EA didn't delivered a good product and charged way too much for it.... but... you could always ask for a refund... lot of people did... i didn't because was a birthday gift, otherwise i would've refunded for sure.

[fiery shoal]

theres literally no sort of universal rule that X amount of money equal Y amount of quality... tf are you on

[lost snow]

so, false advertising then

[fiery shoal]

not at all...

did you just come from reddit?

what a joke

[hearty flame]

its probably logical only seeing as ea probably isnt going to show us assets going into production. but its a fairly logical assumption

[fiery shoal]

yea i wasnt being sarcastic, its a logical assumption

[velvet sand]

Not quite explicitly, but talking about "building more depth into the multiplayer" which...yeah didn't happen (also where the "love letter to the fans" comment is!) - https://www.eurogamer.net/battlefield-2042-will-have-no-campaign-and-no-battle-royale-mode

but also, because you reasonably assume that the massive time/budget/resources that would go into an expensive campaign would be visibly invested into the multiplayer somewhere which...yeah that didn't happen : /

[lost snow]

you're supposed to use logic when you try to make a logical assumption...

[hexed mango]

reddit :(

[fiery shoal]

the love letter is talking about portal specifically for the hundredth time...

[hexed mango]

hi nyphon :)

[velvet sand]

I know? I didn't say it wasn't? I just said that's where the quote comes from, because it does. Not every post directed at you is a disagreement with you, chill.

[fiery shoal]

howdy morb

[hexed mango]

howdy

[lost snow]

i have some beachfront property in Arizona i can sell you...

[fiery shoal]

it seemed like you were trying to tie the "love letter" comment into the "building more depth into mp" sentiment, my bad if you meant otherwise

[wide shore]

Pretty crazy how different the BC2 AN94 acts from the BF3 AN94

[drowsy shuttle]

man i have to tell you... reddit is the 8 and discord is the 80... reddit goes way too far shitting on the game, its full of trolls and people who only bashes the game... but you guys here are almost EA/Dice dick riders.. people can't criticizing nothing about the game without appear the praetorian guard... i like the game and i keep playing it, but it has a lot of flaws and it still need a looooot of work

[velvet sand]

nope, just that the interview also happened to include that comment which was being discussed recently

[fiery shoal]

ok, sorry i didnt understand it was a side note thing

[lost snow]

or a car that runs great. Sign here...

[hearty flame]

what are you talking about lol. we've been critiqing 2042 for the past half hour

[drowsy shuttle]

im not talking about only today...

[fiery shoal]

hes specifically talking about me, which im somehow dick riding dice because a dude said 2042 is a 90 dollar game and is false advertising and i called him out for lying...

both are just factually false statements.. but fuck me for pointing that out

[hearty flame]

eh usually its fairly positive towards 2042 here. if you want real dickriding go to the lowsodium2042 subreddit

[arctic grove]

Doesn’t low sodium just focus on the game as it is now tho

[hearty flame]

false advertising? no. effective advertising? yes. seems the marketing dept knows what people want more than the actual studio lol

[wide shore]

I’m definitely more than fine with people who hate the game.

I will always call people out for lying to cause hate. Or taking things out of context for the sake of their argument even though it’s entirely different from the context.

[sturdy otter]

bf2042 is totally worth it

[fiery shoal]

how calling out blatant lies is somehow dick riding is beyond me.. criticize the game to hell, ive never challenged someone doing that, i only call out absolute bs statements like the one you are responding to.. dude said the game is 90 bucks, its not, dude said 2042 was false advertisements, its not.. if you think thats dick riding idk what to tell you

[sturdy otter]

in standard edition

[drowsy shuttle]

i've seen people here been mocked for giving legitimate criticism towards the game... for some people here the game has almost no flaws... but whatever.. was just my 2 cents

[fiery shoal]

sub 30 bucks is would i would pay for 2042

[sturdy otter]

me too

o wait i did

its not an awful game

[hearty flame]

it could go f2p and i cant see a sizable crowd sticking with it

[sturdy otter]

the missions are a nice touch

[fiery shoal]

its a disappointing/bad bf game, its a decent game in general

[hearty flame]

eh maybe youre here on bad times

[sturdy otter]

gives you something to every week

do

[drowsy shuttle]

like i said, i was not talking about only about today... but anyway, doesn't matter

[sturdy otter]

just go with it

[wide shore]

I once got muted by the bot because someone who hated the game accused me of dickriding it. They asked me to write what I dislike about the game. And it was so long the bot auto detected it as spam for too many characters.

[arctic grove]

Ida been heated

[fiery shoal]

weird to call it out today when that situation doesnt apply at all then, unless you just dont have that scenario to show in regards to me before because it doesnt happen...

[sturdy otter]

don't forget FNB bf2042 friday nights

[wide shore]

It’s fine. I figured it was getting too long. Lol

[sturdy otter]

the only night you can grab a developers tag

[velvet sand]

man, I'm too afraid that I'll complain about how broken air is and some DICE staffer on my team will ban me : (

[hexed mango]

i love those if they are cool game modes, a few weeks ago they had a “hunter” game mode which was just tdm with only crossbows

[sturdy otter]

yea they usually fun

[hexed mango]

dice doesn’t manage the discord tho

[sturdy otter]

its different every week

[hexed mango]

ye

[sturdy otter]

err yes they do manage it

[drowsy shuttle]

was because you talked about reddit... and i agree.. on reddit they go to far shitting on the game.. many times with no sense shit... and i took the chance to say that here sometimes, its the other way around... its the 8 and the 80... i was not personally talking about you... happened i replied to you... but was not personal

[velvet sand]

no in the FNBF matches themselves : |

[sturdy otter]

and they also manage on bf2042 servers

[hexed mango]

no they don’t

[hexed mango]

• ripple effect then

[sturdy otter]

a guy got banned in game for spamming

[hearty flame]

they show up here sometimes but i dont think they manage it

[sturdy otter]

they do

[arctic grove]

There’s some DICE guys here but I don’t think most of the mods/admins are even dice officials themselves

[wild sapphire]

Who do you guys think the worst specialist is on battlefield?

[hearty flame]

all of them

[sturdy otter]

Rao

[wild sapphire]

Lol

[drowsy shuttle]

dozer and boris

[hexed mango]

nah

[sturdy otter]

because i don't like his hacking ability

[arctic grove]

Peter I think his name is works on 2042 and is an admin but that’s as far as I know

[wild sapphire]

I say boris his turret trash now

[still vault]

Depends on how you define "worst"

[hexed mango]

you don’t like the ability to disable any vehicle?

[fiery shoal]

apologies in that case

[drowsy shuttle]

no worries, all good 👍

[wide shore]

In short. No server browser, no persistent lobbies. Stealth Helicopters shouldn’t have flares. The content is lacking, even now. Portal should’ve never been nerfed from the get-go because it killed all enthusiasm for the mode. Third party/RaS should be a thing. Base maps are too empty. 128 BT should still be a thing. Tanks are shit.

Those are my biggest gripes rn.

[sturdy otter]

well i won't mind it but if we get a specalist next season called windows defender

[hexed mango]

lol

[sturdy otter]

then i won't mind

[hexed mango]

valid

[arctic grove]

I honestly think the stealth helis ability to completely remove lock on isn’t fair, it should just work like 4s stealth coating

[hearty flame]

its weird how dice tries to cripple their other mode. must be because of the small playerbase

[hexed mango]

portal?

[drowsy shuttle]

100% i wanted to get him to tier 1, but fuck that... maybe when or if they buff his sentry or change the requirements for the tier 1

[hearty flame]

ya

[sturdy otter]

you can disable stealth on a heli which blows my mind

[hexed mango]

that isn’t dice bozo

[brave trout]

Any updates on when the origin will be back online

[wide shore]

I’m fine with it. But it shouldn’t have flares as well. Makes it almost untouchable.

[hearty flame]

i know but im sure its dice that makes the choices that limit people wanting to play them like xp and progress

[hexed mango]

portal is ripple effect (previously dice la, before ea made it their own studio)

[still vault]

Have been up for quite a while
Sorry, game servers are up again, friends should still be down

[hexed mango]

nope, again ripple effect does that

[drowsy shuttle]

yep... i also would nerf the splash damage

[hearty flame]

so its ripple that does that then? seems even weirder

[sturdy otter]

we need some old maps to come back

in a 2042 reformat

[wide shore]

It does kinda drop mini-nukes

[hexed mango]

and legitimately they had good reason for limiting xp, people got to level S999 in 2 days

[wide shore]

[brave trout]

Any idea on when it will be back up?

[hearty flame]

i think theres a middle ground between limiting xp farms and making the mode unappealing to play

[sturdy otter]

is the server down really

[hexed mango]

i mean it is appealing to play, featured modes… and modes that are full xp

[wide shore]

Limiting? Maybe. But they had no contingency plan. They should’ve known their tools in that capacity would cause problems. Instead they bandaid fixed it and it basically killed the entire mode. People only play the featured modes now outside of a few hardcore servers.

[brave trout]

Just checked, its working

[hexed mango]

and i mean you can do a lot without bots or the rule editor.

however i do think they should individually give each of the blocks in the rule editor a value to make it so you can use some before restricting xp, because you still could easily farm xp with the rule editor

[hexed mango]

yeah, because you can use it for fun, but that fun shouldn’t be used as a way to grind because it can be majorly abused

[solid imp]

Persistent servers is a bigger issue than XP imo for interest in Portal.

[hexed mango]

well portal has persistent servers already

unless you mean having them js bad somehow?

idk

[solid imp]

Define persistent.. when did that change? You can have an empty server that doesn't auto shutdown?

[hexed mango]

persistent as in it keeps up after the round is over…

as in the opposite of aow

[still vault]

I predict half the community will hate a change to persistent servers if it happens

[solid imp]

Ah sorry no mean persistent in that empty doesn't shut it down, so anyone can go populate the server they know they like, not one guy who created that mode and never shared to #908101543646089236

[wide shore]

The way the system is now is fine. But the way it worked a few days after launch just proved that they didn’t have any backup plan in-case the system became abused. All the legitimate servers with any sort of rule changes got fucked over and it ruined the mode for people.

[solid imp]

System now would work with a huge player base where you're guaranteed enough people who are searching for your type of server you spun up

[hexed mango]

so now it’s fine?

i think it still needs tinkering ngl

[wide shore]

I mean, yeah. But compared to what it was before it’s infinitely better.

[hexed mango]

but i just dont think servers that are “malicious” in terms of co should be given that capability

[hexed mango]

ah ok i see

[wide shore]

I just wish I could see tons of cool custom servers with population

But it’s just a dry well over there. People only really play the featured modes. And I don’t like hardcore

[hexed mango]

ah i see, so like externally hosted servers

[arctic grove]

I’ve never liked the idea of hardcore in battlefield either tbh

[solid imp]

Right.

[hexed mango]

tbh i think the main limitation is people don’t want to put in the effort to use the block code

[hexed mango]

yeah that would be neat, but iirc in the past they only let a few hosts allow servers, for rented prices, i want to be able to host my own with my own vm

[solid imp]

I love using the block code, I did that a huge amount when the game first came out. But the only way to seed a server that times you out and then shuts the server down is to have some kind of a shared account or such and remote desktop, a mouse wiggler, etc.

[hexed mango]

seed a server?

[solid imp]

No... It's just cost not dice approval

Was

[hexed mango]

yeah i just wish i could be able to use my own resources to host my own server so i don’t have to pay extra costs

[still vault]

I think giving the server software to partners was how previous Battlefield servers got used by cheat makers. Letting people host on their own VMs would only make things worse.

[hexed mango]

maybe

but tbh if they do it correctly, there is a way to get past that

like in essence to make it so that the hosted server does not host an instance of the game for the server

[solid imp]

Hey remember having to restart punkbusterA and punkbusterB processes? Lol

[still vault]

I don't see how. If you allow people to host themselves they can always mess with the traffic from the server.

[still vault]

I made the guide for !!punkbuster - so yes 😄

[hexed mango]

but merely a connection to the game, in term almost like the hosted server wouldn’t even be a server bit rather a gateway to ping a portal server and keep it up… i mean it ruins the concept as it will still use portal servers, and ea doesn’t probably want that up all the time, but they could use that to manage a portal network of servers for individuals who rent 24/7 access maybe

idk i just woke up i’m just spewing word now

[solid imp]

A well-admined and well configured server got to be known in the community, so the second people saw it show up in their server browser they knew that they were going to have a good experience. Sure you still had a lot of clutter and garbage, but the expense of maintaining that server also meant that those didn't last all that long. The servers you still see in Battlelog today are ones that were also well run back when that game was in its prime

You can't do that kind of reputation building in Portal with temporary servers

[still vault]

I totally get the appeal of the good servers on Battlelog, loved them! Community building is very much lacking compared to the old Battlelog days.

But when discussing them I also think its important to talk about us not seeing the other side of the coin. All the complaints about admins, people wanting support for their servers that act up, hate speech in server descriptions, abusive communities, people having to go through 10s of servers until they find a proper one, etc. etc.

[foggy halo]

dead chat

[gloomy wyvern]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

If you have issues in exposure you can thank me...I'd post an image but cant

I put the condor in the tunnel...

[fiery solar]

Wasn’t the 2042 story supposed to be told by the seasons. What story has been told since the new map

[velvet sand]

I'm pretty sure they've quietly abandoned their plans to update the maps each season to tell an unfolding narrative story through map design at this point.

I remember the same thing, lemme see if our memories are faulty or not.

so...maybe? Seeing references to the narrative unfolding in HZ updates (not happenin, lol) but other vague hints at the narrative unfolding through seasonal updates back from June 2021 so.../shrugs

I know all the out-of-game stuff like the podcasts and video shorts seem to have totally ended, though IMO that's good since I generally find delivering all/most narrative content for a game not in the game to be...not great.

[solid imp]

I can see this. I'm heavily skewed to one bias since we always hosted, kept our community well pruned of badmin nonsense, etc. But I can appreciate the challenge faced by individual players hopping on to get a few games in and spending much of it on those issues and EA/DICE responding to that experience. I will continue to rant inside my personal bubble though :)

[fiery solar]

The little bluetooth speakers around the map and radio in vehicles sometimes have podcasts talking about the current state of the world in game that’s pretty much it

[velvet sand]

oh I think I heard part of a radio program/podcast while riding in a jeep once! So that's what it was, could barely make it out in-game and initially thought someone left an open mic on lol

[fiery solar]

I was able to listen to a little of it cause I was in a discarded alone but this was December

[still vault]

Civilian+other vehicles have radios you can turn on

all kinds of things playing

[fiery solar]

I remember hearing something about childrens toys while flying a little bird

[velvet sand]

I rarely drive/turn on the radio and most of the drivers seem to put on music, so this was legit the first time I've ever heard one of those news casts since launch lol

would be cool if you could put it on your own personal radio or "tune in" to that station with the podcasts/newscasts from the main menu or something

[fiery solar]

Wish they had a projection of a TV displaying the news like that Shanghai mission from battlefield 4

[velvet sand]

Because I still think there's a lot of super cool potential with the narrative setup for 2042 even if they've missed a lot of good opportunities (like making fictional corporations the factions vs. nation states, as sort of the "start" of the sci-fi futures where corporations usurp power from nations/worlds, it fits with the lore!)

plus, it would have avoided some of the uh...issues with reality that hit the game briefly

[fiery solar]

The battlefield game that sounds like it’s story would’ve been incredible doesn’t even have a story

[velvet sand]

it will eventually with the narrative/campaign entry being worked on

[fiery solar]

Where would they even start with a campaign

[fiery solar]

Confirmed campaign?

[velvet sand]

Yes (bit of deja vu, but you prob weren't here earlier). Marcus Lehto (Halo/Disintegration) is the new narrative lead for the BF franchise and he's building a studio in Seattle to create a narrative entry for 2042 based around the specialists.

He's apparently part of the reason for the "improvements" in the tone of specialists/cosmetics (in addition to community feedback) based on some vague posts from a while back.

[keen loom]

[fiery solar]

Wouldn’t it be sick to have a little story mission for every specialist/new specialist that you can play only once

I only remember seeing a story mission for a new season in cod mobile after I decided to try it after 2 years

[velvet sand]

I doubt 2042 is remotely set up for something like that right now.

[fiery solar]

So like bf1 and 5 stories but based around the specialists?

Isn’t a new title being released next year

[velvet sand]

We don't know what shape it will take, just that it's being made. They'll announce stuff once it's well into development, it's still very early and they're hiring a lot of folks to get production started (not sure if production has begun or if they're still in pre-production)

[alpine swallow]

Sorry, but we dont need "heros" in battlefield. It doesnt make any sense in the context of the franchise and game

[velvet sand]

They're not heroes, they're memes.

[alpine swallow]

Whatever

[arctic grove]

My favorite radio station is the one with the Battlefield theme elevator music.

[alpine swallow]

It makes no sense in the context of an army or military that only one person can do something.

[fiery solar]

Classic theme but played by a piano

[arctic grove]

Jazzy sound to it

[velvet sand]

look at our boy with his old baby face

now Angel's seen some shit, he ain't got time to shave every day anymore. Why shave when every day could be your last?

[fiery solar]

I think the new designs are actually way better than they were before

[alpine swallow]

EA be like: copy siege then copy fortnite and apex

[fiery solar]

Mackay still looks young even with a beard

[velvet sand]

visually I agree. The beardification of BF specialists is largely a positive. Just sad that they didn't give beards to Sundance and Falck as well, just some dirt and alterations to their hair : (

[fiery solar]

Falk looks younger

Not by a lot just younger

[velvet sand]

yeah, the darkened her hair up a bit so it's more salt and pepper than grey

[arctic grove]

Give Sundance a non binary beard

[velvet sand]

Someone will have to remind DICE that they're non-binary, because I think DICE forgot.

[arctic grove]

LOL bet

[velvet sand]

I'm not kidding, watch the 1.2 video. Not hating/calling out the two devs there (I don't remember if both made the comments, either) but they kept using she/her for Sundance instead of they/them

[fiery solar]

Someone is going to go nuts if a worker at dice accidentally says she

I was in the middle of typing this and you said it lol

[velvet sand]

because that character detail is so irrelevant to 2042 that it's not even worth remembering internally

[fiery solar]

Almost as if it was there cause they thought sales wouldn’t go down faster than it already does

Almost all my characters have helmets on so the face designs mean nothing to me

[velvet sand]

Yeah...no. Given that it's hidden away on a bio card and wasn't a part of any marketing materials, big no. I'm sure it was absolutely a well intentioned decision from whoever was doing the writing for 2042 and that the devs were all on board with it at the time. But also that it's such a trivial detail that it's not even really worth remembering internally.

[silver lantern]

Lmao imagine If they retconned her identity

[fiery solar]

I never bothered looking but the hair and beard hair is almost if is each individual hair is rendered

Crazy work but that’s probably average for all modern games now

[fiery solar]

Yeah all the videos of anyone using Sundance is with the T1 outfit

All trailer gameplay footage*

[velvet sand]

It's definitely not, but there are a lot of good techniques to simulate that effect nowadays. IIRC a lot of the initial leaps forward in hair came from a lot of JP games a few generations back while western devs were still mostly using big single assets (maybe with one bit of hair that was animated) for hair.

[alpine swallow]

Why do I need to know or care about the cringe character im forced to play as?

This is why generic nobodies worked so well

No one cares.

[velvet sand]

That's the neat part: You don't! Treat specialists as subclasses and call it a day.

[alpine swallow]

But you cant lol. They quip like theyre in a marvel movie

[fiery solar]

They’re marked as classes too

Is there an option to turn off the voices or lower the volume

[alpine swallow]

Also you cant treat them as subclasses if they can use any gadget and weapon. They arent classes at all

[velvet sand]

They do? Honestly outside of Falck saying "ready for duty" or whatever on the menu screen I don't really ever hear quips beyond the usual kind of "enemy spotted" callouts

[fiery solar]

He’s probably talking about the start of round when it shows your squad

[velvet sand]

oh...I'm usually tabbed out so audio is muted then, lol (did the same when the end of round quips were in the game)

[fiery solar]

Mackay cracks a few jokes and Irish is probably the most serious or one of the serious ones

Wish they just did best squad again instead of having 4 players awkwardly standing while it shows their stats

That’s probably why they added their speeches and then players hated it

[little lagoon]

Quips are like nonexistent now

[alpine swallow]

The point is no one asked for specialists, they exist solely because EA wanted to copy apex/siege/overwatch

[fiery solar]

I climbed up from Mount Everest it’s all downhill from here. Get it?

[velvet sand]

I'm just glad that the personal stats shown in the EoR squad screen seem MUCH more relevant/better. Fewer "3 seconds spend defending capture points" or "1 pistol kill" or "1 kill while parachuting" when you had like 40 kills and 8 flag caps or something

[little lagoon]

I get the "ready to go" at the menu and that's it

[arctic grove]

No hero shooter BS. -Irish

[arctic grove]

I’d like best squad to return again

[velvet sand]

sure, but that's a road we've already been down and I thnk DICE gets that players really dislike the system, but they've also said they can't remove them because the whole game is built around them and that's basically technically impossible. So it's making the best of their bad early decisions at this point.

[little lagoon]

Specialists are fine. Who cares now. It's done and over. If they get changed to a more subclass kinda thing fine. But as is, they work and are fine

[fiery solar]

Along with music in the background

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand Im just wondering if EA will tell them to do it again

[fiery solar]

Really wish they stick with the old concept art of 2042. Hourglass looked like it would have tons of cover since there are even more villages

[alpine swallow]

@little lagoon specialists, in terms of design, still do not live up to what bf is supposed to be. They may be fine now in terms of cringe and controversy, but their fundemental flaws still exist. Im not saying to get rid of it in 2042, just dont do it again later.

[velvet sand]

Given the extremely poor financial performance, probably not. And I'm highly skeptical EA forced DICE to include them to begin with. EA largely seem fairly "hands-off" with their studios on development nowadays (see: Anthem/ME:A articles on how BW spent years fucking about without much EA oversight)

[little lagoon]

There were fundamental flaws with subclasses too, like being stuck with certain weapons.

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand no, im pretty sur eit was confirmed that EA was ver hands on in terms of monetization which is what specialists are for

[alpine swallow]

thats not a flaw, thats a design decision.

[velvet sand]

If you've got a link for that I'd be very curious to read/listen.

[little lagoon]

In every BF but 2042 I would never use any recon stuff cause I can't snipe for shit

[little lagoon]

LOL so are fuckin specialists mate

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand The EA investors meetings iirc

[velvet sand]

I mean, unless it was in yesterday's...no, because I've listened to most of their others since BF2042 launched (I'm a loser and find earnings calls interesting)

[alpine swallow]

Ya, and its a bad design decision relative to BF.

[little lagoon]

Look specialists ain't perfect I know that, everyone knows that. But to say subclasses are perfect is blasphemy

[velvet sand]

Though conversely, I'd argue the open weapons/gadget system is great. I'm a medic main and I LOVE having access to anti-vehicle gadgets when my team is being dumb, or different weapons depending on what my squad is doing so I can babysit snipers while helping snipe or pull an AR/SMG for CQC medic.

[little lagoon]

Hard disagree.

[alpine swallow]

They arent, but classes are what bf is and what bf should be. Its about the rock/paper/scissors and being able to identify someones role just by their look. You cannot do that in 2042 since anyone can be an assault or sniper with no indication

[little lagoon]

Exactly

If you cant identify a sniper that's on you mate

[alpine swallow]

Dude, bf is a team game, you cannot say you like being a one man show

[little lagoon]

Bro 2042 is a team game

[alpine swallow]

I see why you want it, youre a lone wolf

[alpine swallow]

Much less than every other game

[little lagoon]

I've seen more teamwork in this game than I have in V

[velvet sand]

I'm...not a one man show. I'm adjusting my loadout to best support my squad/team depending on the battlefield situations while remaining a medic, which is my preferred class and basically ALWAYS useful to your squad/team.

[little lagoon]

I see more lonewolf shit in V than I do in 2042

[pine roost]

I still firmly believe that weapon restrictions helped the classes work even better

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand you could do that before what are you talking about

[fiery solar]

Next specialist might be support since all classes have 3 specialist except support

[velvet sand]

Not without changing classes completely, no.

[formal cairn]

They should add balls to 2042

[little lagoon]

Regarding gadgets yes, I agree for the most part. But actual weapons I think is a design flaw from the past that needed to be moved forward

[alpine swallow]

@velvet sand ya, thats the point. You are supposed to pick your class based on what you want to get into

[formal cairn]

that would be epic

[fiery solar]

They do and they are destructible

[pine roost]

Nah I still think weapons were more important than folks make it out to be

[little lagoon]

Like I was saying I never used recon gadgets cause I can't snipe, I now have that option.

[alpine swallow]

Just because you are a medic and a vehicle starts coming your way doesnt mean the game is badly designed, it means you need to stick with you teammates that can deal with it. This system has always worked like that.

Also, you can switch kits on the battlefield

This was never an issue

[little lagoon]

You say that, and yet even in V and 1 you had whole squads who would refuse to use assualt

[velvet sand]

I...I'm not sure how elxe to explain it because you seem determined to miss the point : /

[alpine swallow]

@little lagoon so what? Thats their choice, its a bad one but one nonetheless.

[fiery solar]

Infinite healing with medic

[alpine swallow]

Its much worse to completely rid the game of role indicators so you dont know who can do what and greatly impacts teamplay.

[little lagoon]

That's the point of everyone using gadgets so you don't run into an issue where your team is full of idiots

[alpine swallow]

@little lagoon no, that is what separates good teams from bad teams. That isnt a design issue.

[cyan trout]

I don't think recon was locked to bolt action rifles? Unless your first battlefield was 1 or 5 even then they had other options if I remember correctly

[alpine swallow]

Recon had shotguns too iirc in bf4

[little lagoon]

Shotguns and carbines

Shotguns require CQC half the time, and I'm no good with carbines.

[alpine swallow]

Getting rid of classes was not the way to go, it just convolutes role awareness and allows people to just go guns blazing lone wolf. This is a huge complaint about 2042 and im surprised people are defending it rn

[little lagoon]

I know my limits with guns and I don't stray out of them so I don't suck ass

[novel torrent]

I need a squad to 4 man a hovercraft

[cyan trout]

They only defend it here lol I am with you on it though.

[little lagoon]

Because shocker most people in this part of the discord like the game and play it instead of whine about shit

[alpine swallow]

Classes were never broken. Having a small flaws is not broken. No one asked for specialists, if you actually think that youre lying to yourself.

[little lagoon]

I didn't say people asked for it

[alpine swallow]

Im not talking to you

[little lagoon]

I said the design still works and you need to get your head out of your ass instead of whining about something that won't change

Don't worry I'm done talking to you too ❤️

[alpine swallow]

It doesnt work in the context of Battlefield.

Maybe Apex or Overwatch, but not Battlefield

[little lagoon]

And yet it does. Sorry. Bye now have a good night

[alpine swallow]

Good one. Classic BFD intellectualism.

[arctic grove]

All good bro, let them talk

[alpine swallow]

Specialists are unnecessary changes that actively discourage teamplay based on design decisions such as UI indicators and points.

[arctic grove]

Classes being gone make the squads feel like they have no structure

[pine roost]

Have they added indicators for who has what kind of secondary gadget yet?

[arctic grove]

Playing battlefield 2042 right now with specialists feels like playing call of duty but on a larger scale

[pine roost]

Cause one of the main reasons I dislike specialists boils down to the lack of consistency. You’ve got what, a 1/11 chance that someone chooses a specialist that can heal?

[velvet sand]

Yet everyone can heal, too.

[fiery dawn]

and then they rarely do heal anyway lol

the reviving is worse tho

[pine roost]

A simple indicator would be a welcome addition if they don’t bother to change their structure until way later

[edgy oriole]

yeah they need to bring back the grab support box from support bodies for those medics that dont heal or give out ammo

[velvet sand]

I mean, you can see what your squad is rolling with. You can see what specialist they're using, on the respawn screen you can see what guns/gadgets/grenades they're using.

[pine roost]

I’m speaking about teammates in game, above their heads. Cause if the mackay next to you has a medkit you could ask them for heals, without an indicator that is impossible to tell

[pine roost]

And yes that was a very nice feature

[arctic grove]

But that can change at any time with a support class I know they're gonna be running ammo

[edgy oriole]

there is icons above their head if you need ammo or health.

[velvet sand]

If you have to request it...they're probably not rolling with a kit, lol.

[pine roost]

Ah, so that does in fact exist

[velvet sand]

Sure, but you can check on each respawn, because your loadout may during respawns depending on what's going on in the match.

[pine roost]

That’s good to hear

[edgy oriole]

but also you have to spam in-game voice com asking for health or ammo and expect them to not give it 90% of the time.

[velvet sand]

Have you not been playing recently? They added that a bit back, it's just up to players with ammo/medkits (or Angel/Falck) to bloody notice.

But I spent a lot of time shooting people with my healing gun on Falck. I like healing people, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

[pine roost]

Haven’t played since 1.0, but even before that I hardly played since I just wasn’t enjoying the game

[zealous patio]

I feel like matcmaking broken again

[edgy oriole]

it stays broken

[zealous patio]

lul

[pine roost]

I’m keeping an eye on the patch notes though cause there could be an update that piques my interest

[edgy oriole]

if only there was a way to find a server that wasnt messed up other than quitting and rejoining queue.

[pine roost]

And one that could fix aircraft :)

[arctic grove]

Either matchmaking is broken or the game is dead I'm consistently getting in games with nobody and having to wait in empty severs

[pine roost]

But according to Morbius’ almight sources, some members of the team know about those already

[edgy oriole]

yeah they know. at some point jets suppose to get their own category too. which is pog

[arctic grove]

Is server browser like a guarantee thing coming up or was it just mentioned by someone on the dev team

[velvet sand]

Don't get your hopes up, only change is a nerf to the health restored by the stealth heli in the next patch. At least that's been announced so far.

[pine roost]

That, I am looking forward to

[pine roost]

As in the self repair kit?

[velvet sand]

Very, very, very unlikely. The line for the past 6+ months has been, "We hear you but have nothing to share at the moment."

[velvet sand]

yes, the self repair ability will repair a bit less as it currently repairs more vs. other helicopters apparently

[pine roost]

I noticed that ended up restoring them to full, when for everything else I swore it only healed a small amount

[edgy oriole]

i wonder when theyll nerf flares seems like they are doing everything but that

[velvet sand]

Never. It could use a nerf for sure, but IMO the bigger problem is mobility for them all, since it interacts with so many other elements including map design.

[pine roost]

But all I’m looking for is a nightbird fix, the roll cam option and a functional rear cam. That would be enough to bring me back for a week or two probably

[velvet sand]

Rarely see the nightbird in use nowadays since everyone uses the much stronger stealth heli instead.

[zealous patio]

Everyone having recoiless and tanks dont have reactive armor Xdddddd also jets and helis same category xddddddd

[pine roost]

Yeah the mobility is something that has definitely made them far better than previous titles

Comparing bf4’s to this shows that the old helis turned much slower, meaning they were easier to predict and hit with dumbfires

When these can turn on a dime

[velvet sand]

we'd need a remotely decent AA dumbfire option, first. WHICH I STILL THINK WOULD REALLY HELP A LOT FOR INFANTRY

[pine roost]

I was discussing that with some members of another discord, we brought up the fleiger and how it affected the game and honestly I think it would be a decent idea

There would definetely be the technology available to do such a thing in the future

[arctic grove]

RPG and SMAW needs to be added the current rocket is horrible

[velvet sand]

If they're not gonna revisit the core design of aircraft (which they'd need to to fix the issues), giving infantry more optoins like some effective dumbfire AA gadgets would go a long wan in reducing the problem

[arctic grove]

I feel like the current dumb fire wouldn't be that bad if it didn't have that optic on it or at least have an option to take it off

[pine roost]

A skill shot AA that does decent damage is something I wouldn’t mind seeing

[pine roost]

Yeah that’s something I feel should be addressed. Idk why it has to have a scope either

[edgy oriole]

its terrible bc its a piercing rocket not an "exploding"
i thought lis would be packing a stronger one but instead its the same but you guide it.

[arctic grove]

I haven't even used the new specialist with the guided rocket yet

[pine roost]

Idk if any of you have watched anything about that supposed person who worked at dice revealing stuff about the game’s dev,

But the TAA section had me really confused

Like, taa seemed to have such a huge impact on performance, yet for some reason it’s still been forced on ever since v

[edgy oriole]

shes good at opening or finishing not really a full on attack unless your whole squad is shooting at once. or if youre lucky you team has a few of them

[pine roost]

V’s implementation was rubbish and no aa is so much sharper, you can see movement better and gives you better frames. So I can’t for the life of me figure out why it wasn’t made toggleable

[arctic grove]

I'm on console so I don't even get the option so

[pine roost]

It’s why I feel bf1 was the last game that looked clear

Anyways, you mentioned earlier that there was already something planned for the next update, are there any more things confirmed to be coming?

[velvet sand]

Next season?

[pine roost]

Aside from season 2

[hexed mango]

there isnt another update until s2

[pine roost]

I know that, it’s just sometimes they bring up some interesting changes that are being worked on before the update

[hexed mango]

ah

[pine roost]

Like someone might post something and get a response like ‘that’ll be fixed next update’ or something

[velvet sand]

all we know is they're working on S2 and there will be 1 map and one specialist, not sure we have any more confirmed details at this point

[hexed mango]

or if all the stuff ive sent to sam gets implemented

[velvet sand]

and that'll prob be when they slightly nerf the stealth heli repair skill

[hexed mango]

stealing my image now are we?

[pine roost]

To me that just sounds like a bug fix rather than a nerf, it defineitly behaves differently to the others

[violet meteor]

I bought it from you

With boins

[hexed mango]

[violet meteor]

I don't have borbcoin

[hexed mango]

fr

[hexed mango]

im so disappointed with my favorite baseball team rn

[pine roost]

Well dang

What went down

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Now take out that soldier and put in Angel and it be perfect

[violet meteor]

Pay me

[keen loom]

In boins

[zealous patio]

Rip matchmaking i guess

Playing 10vs10 lobies always xd

[violet meteor]

Is crossplay on?

[velvet sand]

Portal or AOW? Because Portal is definitely kinda hit or miss for populated servers.

[violet meteor]

I don't have these issues :O

[zealous patio]

yup

[zealous patio]

aow

i tried exodus cq, zero hour cq , cq same results for today

[vast cloak]

PC MASTER RACE 😆

@solar obsidian

There lol

[zealous patio]

pc is a master race if you have pc like 2k 3k usd worth

[vast cloak]

Yeah lol

[sour meadow]

DICE will never balance aircraft properly ever

it's either bullshit easy or completely useless

and all these "winged warriors" wearing their 100000000 kill badges like it actually means a fuckin thing

[pine roost]

I want it to be fun, rewarding but also challenging

There needs to be counters you have to play around and punish foolish play

[velvet sand]

Just be a good pilot yourself /5head

[pine roost]

Well yeah, good pilots get to impact the game significantly

Same goes for infantry

But right now with the mobility, firepower and countermeasures, flying them is dead easy

[sour meadow]

"just do better"

gets shot down by AA

"GAME IS BROKEN. BUFF AIRCRAFT OR I DOX DICE EMPLOYEES"

[pine roost]

I recall my first ever match of 2042 after launch when I got my hands on the nightbird for the first time was a 100 kill game, that should be earned not handed out

[velvet sand]

I miss those days actually. Pilots were more likely to suck back then and I actually got semi-regular aircraft kills just using the Stinger every match. Now...I'm lucky if I can be part of a kill for a single aircraft with a lowly stinger.

I still laugh at how slow the stinger missiles are and how aircraft and just fly away and get an extra few seconds to wait on their flare cooldown to come up to avoid the missile.

plus the "oh noes, while locking the enemy you looked at a tiny twig...MISSILE LOCK BROKEN, RESTART BECASUE TWIG > ADVANCED MISSILE LOCKON CAPABILITIES!"

[pine roost]

Yeah that’s a nuisance

[velvet sand]

and then the missile fires off and blows up because it hit a different twig just off to the side that seemed like it didn't actually ahve a hitbox

[pine roost]

Btw how does the wildcat play after the buff?

I’m tempted to come back and get a more up to date feel for how the game plays and update my feedback list, that wildcat buff was something I’m interested to hear about now it’s been out for some time

[velvet sand]

Haven't been in one in a while, don't drive vehicles and my teams seem to generally prefer tanks, annoyingly.

[pine roost]

Hm

Well I doubt I’ll ever be able to get in an aircraft to test it out since I’ll be competing against an entire team to get one but I’ll try my hand at it

I tested it out in a bot lobby but that’s not really accurate

[drowsy shuttle]

i saw a guy getting 100 kills in BT kaleidoscope just spamming to the military base in the first sector... shots go through all kind of cover lol

sigh...

[hexed mango]

flak?

[drowsy shuttle]

im not sure, probably...

[hexed mango]

cause the flak isnt a direct hit

so it tends to do splash damage where it doesnt show

its broken

[drowsy shuttle]

still.. like im behind a concrete wall, with lot of those big cement blocks in the middle... and still people getting blown up...

[hexed mango]

yeah

its broken

[drowsy shuttle]

yep i agree...

[sour meadow]

wait what flak

[hexed mango]

60mm Flak on Wildcat

[drowsy shuttle]

man, its tough... bsv bs, k30 bs, stealth chopper bs, 12m auto bs, now the wildcat bullshit.... im thinking taking a break until season 2 and see if they fix/balance all this...

[hexed mango]

i mean wildcat has been like that forever

[velvet sand]

honestly I feel like wildcats are arguably better against infantry than air with their guns. I swear I see more teams pulling them vs. tanks even if there's no air to deal with

[hexed mango]

and tbh k30 is only good really close

[drowsy shuttle]

true.. people use the wildcat as an anti-infantry vehicle instead of an anti-aircraft vehicle

[hexed mango]

stealth chopper needs work still... tho ive seen less of a presence of them somehow

[velvet sand]

what's wrong with the 12m auto? it's good at close range which makes sense, but that's about it

[hexed mango]

12m with slugs

;)

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't agree... its still melts medium range.. im winning fights against all types of AR... sometimes even lmg.. (ofc we have to consider the skill of the enemy, but still...)

[velvet sand]

ah, haven't unlocked those yet since I generally dislike playing shotguns. but I can't say I've noticed getting killed with 12m's from range. Might not be paying attnetion

[drowsy shuttle]

this

[hexed mango]

yeah ig it is still powerful

the only thing is that i dont want them to continue nerfing shit with the fear that they're gonna nerf it into the ground

like lmgs need buffs

[hardy crow]

Finally got in a Tuk-Tuk
Got 6 kills and Assists

[hexed mango]

imagine not having T1 tuk tuk

[hardy crow]

Never drove it before

[hexed mango]

[drowsy shuttle]

i saw a post on reddit of a guy with T1 4x4.. maniac...

[hardy crow]

Some rando tried to roadkill me with one but I sniped him with the revolver and stole his ride

[drowsy shuttle]

no sorry

[hexed mango]

i have T1 Tuk Tuk

[velvet sand]

I wish they were on more maps. I try to jump in one on Kaleidoscope whenever I see one.

[hexed mango]

has someone compiled an up-to-date list of all balance changes needed? cause while im 99% certain devs know, i do want to forward one to sam to be safe

[hexed mango]

fr

[velvet sand]

give us tuk tuk's with skis! give us tuk-tuk with treads!

let us take those suckers across the sand dunes and snowy fields

[drowsy shuttle]

no idea... i saw some post of a dev or something saying the stealth chopper is going to get the repair system reduced in season 2.... imo ain't gonna cut it... i think flares should go away and maybe nerf the splash damage

24/7 kaleidoscope (and maybe exposure too) Breakthrough next week would be cool...

[hexed mango]

flares should 100% be removed, i think i know of the post youre talking about

[hexed mango]

yeah Zero Hour Breakthrough would be fun

what if a specialist in the next season(s) is like Vigil from R6

[drowsy shuttle]

kaleidoscope is probably the most balanced map for BT right now (along side exposure, but i still prefer Kalei)..

[hexed mango]

cant be spotted, walks quietly (the former as an ability, probably)

[drowsy shuttle]

a stealth specialist? well, would be my main lol

[hexed mango]

fr, especially with the layout changes, its pretty freaking fun

[drowsy shuttle]

make it happen Dice

[hexed mango]

precisely

[drowsy shuttle]

give me a stealth specialist with throwing knifes and i'll be happy

altough apparently throwing knifes not gonna happen

[hexed mango]

or just make throwing knives a throwable lol

[hexed mango]

aww

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah someone once said here, that one of the Devs gave us a big fat No about that...

shame

but who knows... maybe they will change their minds

[copper fulcrum]

BFV had throwing knives

[hardy crow]

Maybe the dev got killed by those too many times

[drowsy shuttle]

i know and was awesome... really wish they add it to bf 2042.

[copper fulcrum]

Well it had a short 1-shot range

But it was a good short range back-up for a recon

[arctic grove]

Any reason why when I load into the game it says in the only player? And stays that way. Someone else popped in for a bit. But that's all. Are the servers down or sum rn?

[mental delta]

Some devs here said it was unlikely to happen

[next onyx]

By the way. If you guys hear angel well pula just note it's just a frustration quip used by Romanians LOL.

[calm bison]

I think the servers are down

[arctic grove]

Dang. That sucks.... guess I have a reason to not stay up late before work lol

[calm bison]

Some people on Reddit are reportedly unable to play BFV

[velvet sand]

I thought that was resolved by now

[calm bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[velvet sand]

server error message isn't showing up on the forums anymore, at least

[calm bison]

This is EA we’re talking here

[arctic grove]

Tru

[serene pawn]

It's been 3 days since my Season 1 badge doesn't move past 1009 points. If I lose the T1 because of stupid bugged tracking I'll riot

I'm way past 1100

[vagrant torrent]

I feel like mine has been stuck at 875 for the longest lol

[serene pawn]

Yeah, Dice really needs to sort this out before the season is over.

[cobalt flower]

mm the ak is so good

[solar obsidian]

bless you

[vast cloak]

❤️

lol

[solar obsidian]

battlefield 2042, the game where 4 out of 5 platforms got tricked into paying money to play online

[outer anchor]

hi

[solar obsidian]

greetings

[arctic grove]

This game made bfv look amazing

How tf do you even manage that

[keen loom]

V is dog water cheeks

[arctic grove]

Compared to 2042 its a masterpiece

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Not much better tho tbf. Both are bad

[keen loom]

I rather play 2042 than V

[solar obsidian]

i mean, if it took you 3 years and another buggy battlefield release to open your eyes and get a opinion on bf5,
tf did you do the last 3 years ?

bf5 was plagued by stutters, so much EVERY fucking content creator had this a main issue when big patches where around

[arctic grove]

Uh, bold of you to assume i ever liked bfv

[solar obsidian]

so even if the game was decent enough to play, a lot just walked to better optimised games

[solar obsidian]

look at the first message you send dummy

[arctic grove]

Yeah, and both are still bad, relatively

[solar obsidian]

maybe get back to reddit if you just came here to trash bf2042

[spark edge]

So the AI no longer give weapon unlock xp?

Like I joined portal matches and no xp given

[arctic grove]

Dont tell me what to do lol

[spark edge]

Maybe its just portal?

[arctic grove]

I mean what else is there to do lol. 0 content in 7 months

The game is stale as fuck

[solar obsidian]

back to reddit mate, you are not even opening the game anyways

have a nice day

[arctic grove]

I did actually play the new update for a while but honestly there is just not much content lol. And you cant even deny it because its true

[serene pawn]

Make sure the portal server isn't restricted.

[hexed mango]

only to a certain point

if its AI in a portal server, no

[hallow sierra]

tbh bfv loading screens take longer den 2042

[spark edge]

Got ya. So if player xp is not restricted it’ll clear it up

[hexed mango]

AI in portal server = Limited xp

[spark edge]

That would explain it as well!

[hexed mango]

AI in solo/coop = limited, but mastery up to T3 / mastery 12

[spark edge]

Is it possible to make solo/co op hardcore, 800% like in portal?

[hexed mango]

tldr bots in portal give barely any xp, but bots in coop allow mastery, but a certain point

[hexed mango]

unfortunately no, but the bots are still very very easy to kill, they're stupid

[spark edge]

Ah got ya, thank you. I joined a 800% portal that was mostly AI and was so confused why I wasn’t getting unlocks

[hallow sierra]

till where u got moments where u got 1 frame kill by them

[spark edge]

Thank you for clarifying my friends

[hexed mango]

no problem

[alpine swallow]

AI had never been good in bf

[hexed mango]

fr

[violet meteor]

Have you done your part today and purchased battlefield coins?

[hexed mango]

i already purchased a lot :)

[violet meteor]

Good

The gods of battlefield are pleased

[vast cloak]

😆

[solar obsidian]

[violet meteor]

[outer anchor]

caspian border is so garbage

why did they bring that map

instead of otehr maps

[solar obsidian]

i love caspian

[wide shore]

Caspian’s amazing.

[lone wren]

caspian is a popular map

[outer anchor]

lmao

one of the map I hated the most in bf4

[lone wren]

what was hated about it

[outer anchor]

for me its a lazy wide open piece of shit

just lazy design

there was WAY better maps

im surprised they didint port market , metro and locker, those were popular

maybe wouldnt fit 2042

[wide shore]

Caspian was a BF3 map first. They didn’t port any BF4 maps

[outer anchor]

ohhh

[wide shore]

But, out of available BF3 maps. I definitely would’ve picked something like Seine Crossing or Grand Bazaar over Caspian.

But I totally understand why it was chosen.

Just like I would’ve taken multiple different maps over Valparaiso

I don’t mind it. But I didn’t play it much in BC2 cause it was a rush only map.

I would’ve taken Oasis, Panama Canal or Laguna Alta over Valparaiso any day.

[outer anchor]

the bf 3 maps look better than the 2042 maps thought, more details or something

[solar obsidian]

Valparaiso is so iconic its actually insane

[outer anchor]

crazy how much talent they had back then lel

[solar obsidian]

i preferred bf2 over bc2

[wide shore]

They hit the nail right on the head with Arica Harbor though. That map was a fan favorite and it was the map from the first gameplay trailer I remember seeing of that game.

[solar obsidian]

no doubt about that

[wide shore]

Might just be that blue filter. Or the art style in general.

[solar obsidian]

or might just be the nostalgic view

[wide shore]

BF3 had great art direction. Even if the blue filter drove me crazy sometimes.

[solar obsidian]

i dont miss the blue filter at all

[wide shore]

I’m thankful it wasn’t as apparent in the later DLCs.

[outer anchor]

the maps had a lot of details man

[solar obsidian]

yeah, bf3 was miles ahead of anything around that time in terms of technical graphics on pc at least

[wide shore]

Aftermath and Endgame feel very different from the rest of the game visually.

[violet meteor]

Start of an exposure match, I get to pilot the condor and ask chat how long it'll take me to crash. Right out the gate one of the unmanned condors that takes off at the beginning of the match hits me right underneath and I'm dead

[frank stratus]

How tf does the blue filter bother you?

[solar obsidian]

found the guy with warm color profile overtuned 👌

[arctic grove]

Too much blue is bleh

[frank stratus]

idk it fits well

[upbeat sand]

Needs more

[solar obsidian]

i forgot how bad it actually is

[wide shore]

I mean it’s really a preference thing

It does make BF3 look unique. But it also makes it look very contrasty and dark

[solar obsidian]

it was just the phase back then, have as many post process effects to blur up low resolution assets

most wanted and crysis 2 did something similar

[copper fulcrum]

Welcome to Need for Speed Most Wanted. To get started, let's piss straight into your eyeballs.

[upbeat sand]

It gives it some identity seperate from other games

[wide shore]

⚖️

[solar obsidian]

there are way better ways to do that though, instead of slamming a blue filter on

[sour meadow]

so much negativity in the battlefield community now

let's all go back to 2016 when bf1 was revealed and everyone came in their pants

[solar obsidian]

they did?

[sour meadow]

i know i did

[bitter skiff]

I havent worn pants since

[worthy inlet]

Bf1 announcement was a real high point

Then a lot of people hated the actual game

[sour meadow]

a lot?

[solar obsidian]

this

[sour meadow]

i fell in love with it

i get the hate for 5 and 2042

will never understand the hate for 1

[worthy inlet]

Oh it's my favourite but I was only able to get into it after the French DLC

[sour meadow]

i was there beta day

why hate 1 tho. i don't get it

[worthy inlet]

I was still playing bf4 until my housemate forced me into 1

[sour meadow]

see i was that way with 4

[solar obsidian]

the oneshot distance with snipers
the time to kill,
the comeback mechanics
lack of weapons and gadgets,
planes wrecking absolute mayhem,
campaign being very average,
gas gas gas,

[worthy inlet]

The random bullet deviation on low accuracy guns, the movement and vehicles, the behemoths

[sour meadow]

i started with 3. loved it. then 4 came out and didn't care because to me it looked too much like 3. then i got into it like a year or two after it launched

[worthy inlet]

Gas too

[solar obsidian]

also that

[worthy inlet]

I actually enjoyed the gunplay way more than bfv

[sour meadow]

1. this is dumb yes.
2. never had too many issues with this.
3. i swear the behemoths aren't that effective because a lot of dummies waste them.
4. idk if i'd say there's not many but i wouldn't say there's a lack of them.
5. planes are broken yes but this is a DICE thing.
6. campaign was okay.
7. gas was eh

[worthy inlet]

The behemoths are very dumb and just the entry gimmick, like fortifications in bfv

[solar obsidian]

enemy team loosing

better give them a battleship or an airship

[sour meadow]

i play on PC where everyone is coked out of their minds so whenever a behemoth spawns they instantly get destroyed

[next onyx]

Fortifications actually added to the game instead of rewarding the losing team.

[solar obsidian]

this

[sour meadow]

like the airship

that shit goes down in like 90 sec

[solar obsidian]

the airship did nothing beside rewarding the losing team

bad design

[sour meadow]

idk if help is a reward

[worthy inlet]

Oh yeah the behemoths are totally useless outside the train on Suez and galacia

[solar obsidian]

it was simply made so the match had a chance to bounce back

[alpine swallow]

Train on suez?

That doesnt go through any flags?

[sour meadow]

i've had a lot of games that have been swung without behemoths

[alpine swallow]

Sinai train is good

[worthy inlet]

Almost never saw the others do anything

[sour meadow]

oh shit we're talking about bf1 in the 2042 channel

[alpine swallow]

Char 2C was good but underutilized

[worthy inlet]

But it basically stops you from being able to touch one side of all flags

Sinai train is meh

[sour meadow]

i can understand if you think behemoths suck

[worthy inlet]

Unless you had a very good driver it was always stuck at D

[sour meadow]

but i will never understand if you think the dreadnaught v dreadnaught on Heligoland was bad

[alpine swallow]

Nah, D is important on Sinai, easy cap with train. A good team can use that to create a wall for their side and push to C

[sour meadow]

that shit was genius

[worthy inlet]

I thought Heligoland was genuinely awful overall

[sour meadow]

wtf why

[worthy inlet]

I've always hated water maps

Zebrugge was the only okay one

[alpine swallow]

Maps need good boats. WW1 didnt really have that

[sour meadow]

that was like the last time we got any hint of naval warfare in a bf game

[alpine swallow]

Works better with the boats like in bf4

[worthy inlet]

I can understand why tbh

[sour meadow]

there were torpedo boats and destroyers tho

[alpine swallow]

Naval warfare can be fun.

[worthy inlet]

Not many people enjoyed them in bf1 from what I saw

[alpine swallow]

The Pacific maps in V kinda had it

[worthy inlet]

Never played them

[sour meadow]

what naval warfare in v

there weren't any boats

there was just the little wooden ones

i know the LVT and the other thing floated but eh

[alpine swallow]

Bf4 did it best

Paracel Storm is a banger

Same with the naval maps

[arctic grove]

Carrier Assault is best mode

[white geyser]

I had fun carrier assault in BF4, I was drinking on the water with the AA tank to see any enemy players using the attack boats so I can take them down

[next onyx]

Carrier assault was good.

[white geyser]

2042 it needs its own version of carrier assault or something else that looks kinda similar to carrier assault

[keen loom]

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield

10th aug already bois

Season 2 comin up 👁️

[solar obsidian]

watch it be delayed

[tame cobalt]

nuuuu

[rocky kraken]

Probably lol

[lyric snow]

its coming today???

[tame cobalt]

No

Early sept

[lyric snow]

oh

[tame cobalt]

getting desperate for some content

[lyric snow]

ill start playing again when it comes

[white geyser]

Make a proper comeback if the devs wants to support 2042

[tame cobalt]

muh

[arctic grove]

Arnt we all?

content has been drip fed

[tame cobalt]

Factual facts

Need at least 2 new maps or 1 new map and like 2 portal map

it is what it is i guess

Perhaps with the reworks and 1 new map per season we end up with 11 pretty good 2042 maps

And that's best case scenario

And u just know one of the DLC maps is gonna be a dud

but which one

[solar obsidian]

another lovely day, one day closer to rtx 40xx

[arctic grove]

aha

[arctic grove]

Nvidia says it arrives in october

You probaly already know that

[solar obsidian]

i seen a bit share of rumors and such,
im just waiting for the presentation being announced, watch that and see what they are going to release and what date and cost

[arctic grove]

Buy one for me 😏

[solar obsidian]

[solar obsidian]

the trick is to buy cheap games

use all the rest of my money on hardware

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[solar obsidian]

i never heard of that site, but was more thinking cdkeys and humble bundles

[arctic grove]

Imma delete the message, so the mod dosen't get offended

[solar obsidian]

yeah better do that 😄

[rocky kraken]

1600 w psu here we come

[bitter skiff]

whole lot of new destrustion of objects and buildings in the maps, no?