battlefield-2042

[coral echo]

That's probably it, it also goes to the side more often but that just might be the guns I'm using tbf

[next onyx]

Yeah last gen has input problems.

It's even more pronounced since the game is running on almost decade old hardware.

[silver lantern]

I'm boutta upgrade soon

[tacit sphinx]

cant say ive ever clocked any noticeable issues

[silver lantern]

Just waiting for my check to come in

[little lagoon]

Manifest is so good

[silver lantern]

Hauled over the coals is the best theme in the game ngl

[next onyx]

I do think that when it comes to maps that need it less, They won't have to adjust it as much.

Manifest for example.

Maybe more cover between B to A and that's about it.

[silver lantern]

Exposure so far is the best map ngl

[tacit sphinx]

in fairness my controller is also on its deathbed so theres occasionally hiccups but since similar things have happened in other games im inclined to put it on my controller lol

[next onyx]

I've been jamming on Exodus conquest.

[trail spruce]

why does my game feel choppy even tho im getting really good fps? weird

[silver lantern]

Could it be your ping?

[next onyx]

How old is your controller?

Dr.

[tacit sphinx]

like 6 years of fairly consistent use lol

[silver lantern]

My ps4 controller performs worse than my decade old 360 controller

[trail spruce]

doubt it, it seems stable

like the visuals are choppy

[silver lantern]

Weird indeed

M44 slaps ngl

[next onyx]

My controllers only last 2 to 3 years. -.-

[silver lantern]

What do you do with it lol

[next onyx]

Than again compared to you, I overuse the controllers to hell.

Uh.

[silver lantern]

Rage?

[next onyx]

Nah.

[silver lantern]

Sweat?

[next onyx]

I was just thinking that the controllers are made differently that's why the life time is so different.

Nah I just overuse it to hell. Lots of clicks and that.

[silver lantern]

It's good to give it a break at times I guess

[next onyx]

Yeah, Though this was when I was grinding for rank 500 on bf5.

I don't have the willpower like I used to.

[silver lantern]

I had mine for 4 years
And I had the original that came with the ps4 for 6

Tho my old controller is kinda fucked rn

[next onyx]

I've had two right sticks pop out of their sockets.

Making them completely unusable.

[silver lantern]

Oof

Ik they already pop out

When you pull them up

But like they must've been yanked hard lol

[balmy halo]

Wow I can't believe how butthurt people get on reddit

[silver lantern]

Reddit ☕

[tranquil turtle]

When season 4 ends, all the reddit users that uninstalled the game are going to bitch and whine when they dont have the weapons from previous seasons because they're locked behind battle passes that they didn't play

[silver lantern]

Yoo I agree with this jet guys name

What's gonna happen after season 4

[tranquil turtle]

Game ends live service probably

[silver lantern]

Oh yea 😔

[little lagoon]

Why did I just get told that squads don't matter in 2042?

[next onyx]

Mh who knows.

Bf5 made them matter more.

[silver lantern]

Bf5 everyone had a role to play

[next onyx]

All squads are, Are just a place holder for when you want to be close to your friends.

[little lagoon]

I tell em that we need a squad leader to do squad leader stuff, and people are bitching at me that this isn't old battlefields, squads don't matter

[next onyx]

And generally free spawns.

[silver lantern]

Bf5 made the squads 4 players instead of 5
Which was nice

[little lagoon]

But like how else do you win if you don't all team up on the objective

[arctic grove]

Zoomers

[next onyx]

I'll be honest, I don't see the use of squads beyond what 5 tried to do.

[tranquil turtle]

Play Sundance and contribute nothing to your team bro

[next onyx]

I think they were successful in making squad actions mean more.

In this they don't.

[proper pulsar]

personally they should buff the stealth helis so they can drop 2 tsar bombs every 10 seconds

[silver lantern]

Yeah what the fuck does sundance do?

[arctic grove]

Get 2042 or wait?

[next onyx]

If you had your squad come with you you could get tonnes score into squad requisition but in this it just means you have the safety of green names.

Sundance is an assault so throw grenades and use their mobility to your advantage.

Is it on sale, Rambo?

[proper pulsar]

ye it is

[silver lantern]

I wish we get more take downs

[placid echo]

Sundance is good for flanking and taking out vehicles

[arctic grove]

it is for 30

[silver lantern]

Ight well now I know her use

[arctic grove]

cant find it for 10 anymore

[silver lantern]

So who's the most useless operator

[next onyx]

Get it for 30.

[proper pulsar]

her use is to be a terroristic flying squirrel

[next onyx]

That's as much as you should pay.

[arctic grove]

At we least we got a pimp cane for a takedown

[next onyx]

"Terroristic flying squirrel"
I love that.

[arctic grove]

Flying black squirrel

[silver lantern]

French

[proper pulsar]

personally i wouldnt take this level of disrespect

[arctic grove]

lmao

[arctic grove]

which is why she is terroristic?

[silver lantern]

She just french

She does commit alot of war crimes tho

[arctic grove]

her grenades is a literal war crime wym???

[silver lantern]

She can fly

[proper pulsar]

Bomber Plane

[silver lantern]

Shes a human missile with a recoilless

[foggy halo]

imagine reading reddit

[shell dock]

Is the game still shit or has it gotten better?

[next onyx]

Unnecessary suffering.

[proper pulsar]

less shit

[shell dock]

Cope

[next onyx]

The game is in a better state.

But it's missing some thing sstill.

I fucking hated this game at launch.

[arctic grove]

Thanks Kermit. Thats very kek of you

[next onyx]

And considering where it is now, i'ts a big step up but as well, It's concerning.

[arctic grove]

It sure is

[lusty temple]

What did the game lack from the trailer

[next onyx]

Lacking some stuff from previous games. A proper server browser for all out browser, Persistent lobbies, Squad management, etc.

[lusty temple]

Not enough voice lines in certain situations to make the gameplay feel more immersive?

[outer anchor]

I dunno if they are aware

but the dozer shield is bugged in 2 situation

[next onyx]

I'm just talking about stuff we're used to.

[outer anchor]

if there is multiple enemies together it wont hit

and if the enemy is in stairs it wont hit

[lusty temple]

What about video playback and editor

[still vault]

Omg, I might actually get to play Kaleidoscope

[next onyx]

I care very little for immersion, Ironically a game that plays well is what is immersive.

If I'm fighting the game less, The easier I can ease myself into it.

Have a dedicated Co pilot and you can farm.

[outer anchor]

get those scores as infantry

[next onyx]

Ye, Infantry is a lot of fun to cool down on.

I just want tier 1 ST choppers because I would just like to get what ever tier 1 aircraft.

[outer anchor]

im doing the dozer shield kills, its so frustrating sometimes

[next onyx]

I was getting really tilted which affected the way I flew, Play a couple games as infantry and that cooled me down.

It's not worth it.

Dozer isn't worth the mental duress.

[proper pulsar]

it's really easy with dozer

[shell dock]

Just abuse the ai

[proper pulsar]

aslong as u come from the right angle

[tranquil turtle]

I only look at the stealth changes they post there

[next onyx]

The 30MM nerf is a very good start.

I hope the bombs will get a reduced blast radius next.

And its stealth mode acting as something that reduces range of heatseekers by half and increasing lock on time.

[still vault]

that sounds reasonable

[next onyx]

Cutting lock ons out is stupid.

[tranquil turtle]

it's stupid because it also has flares

[next onyx]

Yeah STEALTH perks have always increased lock on times.

They should purely just have it increase the lock on time, Enough for you to get out but not completely yield you invulnerable.

[tranquil turtle]

either do what you said or keep everything as is but get rid of flares

[next onyx]

It feels good being immune to heatseekers from a helicopter though cause HOLY FUCK it is ANNOYING.

[proper pulsar]

balancing is a big problem in this game there is something always overpowered or really weak

[next onyx]

Yeah.

The current state of AA is fucking nutty.

It's good! AA is finally good!

But I hope there are some adjustments to it.

[proper pulsar]

a bit too good

[outer anchor]

wow

[next onyx]

Maybe increased accuracy with a bit lower damage?

[outer anchor]

dozer's shield doesnt work 3/.4 of the time

so broken

fix your fucking game

[proper pulsar]

do u mean dozer or smthing

main*

fucking god

[next onyx]

Instead of 3 damage you take 2 damage, But it has less spread.

[outer anchor]

no I dont

im just doing the tier 1 on dozer

then I move to the next specialist

[proper pulsar]

i main casper and still dont have t1

[next onyx]

That EMP dart is a massive issue too.

[outer anchor]

hes completely broken

I have t1 casper

it takes like 1-2 days to do

[tranquil turtle]

what fucking "emp dart"

[next onyx]

The gunner of the ST choppers can fire a little EMP dart.

Which well.

Disables everything except movement.

HA imagine counterplay.

[tacit sorrel]

Stealth choppers op

[muted steeple]

I only like to play hardcore.
So my question is: Can you level up your guns in portal now or do I still have to play lame ass core?

[keen loom]

Pistol gang

[tranquil turtle]

play the game normally

[tranquil turtle]

use it in burst

[keen loom]

[tranquil turtle]

the g57 is actually good with burst

[keen loom]

I like using it when I’m in close quarters or if I have no ammo

[tranquil turtle]

like, just because of the burst, I think it's better than the mp28

[muted steeple]

I only like to play hardcore.
So my question is: Can you level up your guns in portal now or do I still have to play lame ass core?

[tranquil turtle]

I use it with my sniper build

[keen loom]

I have it with every load out

[tranquil turtle]

I use the m44 on every other loadout

you never know when you're going to need to flick someone

[keen loom]

The magnum is also not that bad either

[next onyx]

I just want tier 1 G57.

[tranquil turtle]

it's satisfying being mag dumped by some guy with his k30 then 1 tapping him with that revolver

[keen loom]

K30 is good just hate when I’m being killed by it

[muted steeple]

I only like to play hardcore.
So my question is: Can you level up your guns in portal now or do I still have to play lame ass core?

[tranquil turtle]

fr

I prefer the mp9

since it can actually be effective past 10 meters

[tacit sphinx]

you can level up guns in portal but most hardcore modes are probably progression locked/limited because stuff is changed too much

also lol who plays battlefield for hardcore

[tranquil turtle]

people who suck

[muted steeple]

Still?
Well, thanks anyway

[tranquil turtle]

they can't handle longer ttk

[tacit sphinx]

at that point play a game that actually has hardcore mechanics rather than arcade game but with double damage

[tranquil turtle]

get ground branch or squad

[outer anchor]

hahaha

I saw that

[tacit sphinx]

same lol

[tranquil turtle]

I missed it 💀

[chilly jacinth]

it says if a server has limited xp/progression

just check

[tacit sphinx]

just a random discord invite for like half a second

[outer anchor]

with a naked girl

[next onyx]

Cod hardcore is more fun.

Battlefield hardcore is questionable.

[foggy halo]

true bf experience

[chilly jacinth]

cod hardcore is just plagued by old dads sitting on their favorite headglitch

[foggy halo]

"questionable" lol
weird af

hardcore people are weird

[full burrow]

so I normal play 64 but I just did conquest on kaleiodscope 128

and damn does the map feel huge

[upper socket]

Ok ok who pinged me for what?

[full burrow]

especially when most of the players are still in their own hotspots

[tacit sorrel]

Core doesn’t even have a slow ttk rly

[next onyx]

The TTK in this game is pretty quick.

But it can be on the slower side too.

By the way. Give the PBX a look at.

[proper pulsar]

ye u cant touch sunlight in the game for more than 1 sec before dying

[tranquil turtle]

800% damage!!

[next onyx]

What annoys me more is the fact that people can hide more easily with snipers.

[tranquil turtle]

bruh with 800% damage, smgs would 1 shot

[next onyx]

Also. Impact grenade.

[tranquil turtle]

not even in realistic games like ground branch do weapons kill in 1 bullet

[tame cobalt]

I think dice should remove hourglass from AOW until it's fixed

[thin compass]

Servus

[calm bison]

My grandfather didn’t escape Germany during WW2 only for me to have the Tiger 2 as my favorite tank

[outer anchor]

LOL

tbh breakaway and hourglass needs to have everything moved closer

like the stadium moved near the big buildings in hour glass

or moved where the big empty hill is

[tacit sorrel]

Yea those maps are pretty barren

🤦🏻‍♂️ can this community quit ramming me every time I get in a tank fight

[small ember]

Skilless behavior or?

[tacit sorrel]

Idk

It was honestly the most pathetic thing I’ve seen because it was a 2v1 loss

[arctic grove]

Its a great tactic..Ive won many tank battles because of Ramming

[tacit sorrel]

Yea except it was a friendly and we both died lol

[arctic grove]

LMAO

Single celled teammates

[tacit sorrel]

Probably would’ve helped if I was in a mbt but I didn’t miss a single cannon shot in the wildcat

[dry root]

Oops

[tacit sorrel]

Friendly must’ve missed any shot he took at the enemy tank

I’m surprised they made the AA missiles much faster you can send out 2 rapid fire

[tame cobalt]

Ram, jump out while they're confused and finish em with c5

[tacit sorrel]

My luck I jump out and get insta blasted by the main gun lol

[tame cobalt]

C5 is kinda op tho, it's great against ground vehicles and also in cqb

But that's just how it is in bf

But the throw distance can be nerfed a little bit

[tacit sorrel]

I usually just stick with recoiless because range

[silver lantern]

Yknow
I noticed that the characters held the ak24 differently in the alpha compared to final release

[arctic grove]

An even better tactic

[tame cobalt]

Or nerf c5 throw rate of fire

But by like 5-10%, not 20%+, DICE

[tacit sorrel]

Ranger and sentry turret seem kinda worthless

[tame cobalt]

Always gotta overdo the nerfs

[tacit sorrel]

Only good for killing bads

[tame cobalt]

Nah ranger is good to have. Just gives you a small extra edge. And ordering it around can be very useful and kinda fun

Particularly in conquest, dunno in breakthrough

[uncut bay]

Ranger is good for keeping pressure on people and so is the turret to a lesser extent

But yeah the turret nerf was a bit too strong

[arctic grove]

And petting the ranger too for morale boost

[gleaming oracle]

Did they lower the AC rof?

[vagrant stirrup]

I like to play Boris with turret and ranger, and get a repair tool keep ranger alive

[tame cobalt]

How do

[arctic grove]

go up to it around its head and you should see a button. But i think it only works if its YOUR ranger. The one you called in.

[vagrant stirrup]

I heard press E infront of ranger, but that don't work for me

Close to the head right?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[oak lake]

Alright, I’m done

[vagrant stirrup]

Maybe I'm a bit too far

[oak lake]

They won’t add m&k support on console

[gleaming oracle]

Did they lower the AC rof? It's now showing 480

[oak lake]

Obviously

They won’t add input based matchmaking either

[arctic grove]

I heard there will be support but only on ps5/series s/x

[upper socket]

I dunno maybye the old rate was a visual glitch

[oak lake]

Makes sense, on old gen crossplay works only between consoles

[silver lantern]

Oh shit

Mw2 2022 leaks

The tarkov like mode is real

[balmy halo]

I just don't get why I get the exact same performance on low compared to med/high

I always usually just play on low for the best performance on games like this where it looks good no matter what but I always get around 70-85 fps no matter what 🤣

[outer anchor]

is mw2 like 6 vs 6 or its a bigger scale combat?

cuz it looks nice

[silver lantern]

I guess theres different modes?

[outer anchor]

if its bigger scale combat I will buy it

[silver lantern]

Theres warzone 2
And the DMZ mode

[outer anchor]

ummmm

but no conquest mode like battlefield where its 64 vs 64 ?

[upper socket]

Is 115 pounds light for a 14 year old boy people keep calling me thin :/

[outer anchor]

wtf

[topaz field]

Lmfao

Feather weight 😭

[silver lantern]

Just play battlefield at that point

Cod is it's own thing

[outer anchor]

ill have to try it, it looks nice though

[upper socket]

Ye everyone says i should swim

[silver lantern]

Same
I the tarkov style mode sounds dooe

Dope

Hopefully it doesn't flop unlike hazard zone

[fierce gull]

I need more scopes like the 8T

[bronze steeple]

I dont like the bsv mp9 and k30 nerf my top 3 weapons all freaking nerfed

@ripe hedge players like weapons because they are good so nerf isnt realy a good thing then

[next onyx]

Give the PBX with close combat a go next.

Also please don't ping staff out of the blue man.

[bronze steeple]

I am not talking too you bro i just wanne know why they nerf my top 3 weapons this patch

Doesnt make me more ambasador

[wide shore]

[ripe hedge]

Because data suggested they needed some adjustments.

[bronze steeple]

Players love there weapons and not the nerf off them

[wide shore]

I am a bit curious about the MP9. Was it like a blanket change for the fast firing SMGs?

[bronze steeple]

Dont change something when its good

[wide shore]

I didn’t really see people talking about it.

I mean the nerfs made are so minuscule

The BSV is still the best all around gun. And the K30 and MP9 still wreck shop at close range

[vagrant stirrup]

Even it is way too over power?

[wide shore]

I mean the BSV was fucking insane.

I love using it. But man, the moment I first unlocked it I knew it was getting the nerf gun. It was just way to easy to kill people.

Still is tbh

[bronze steeple]

I enjoy using it that way and you can use it aswell its not my advantage only

[bronze steeple]

I still like them but bsv was better at long range and k30 was better at med range and mp9 same story

[wide shore]

But then that creates a 1 gun meta. Which completely misses the point of player choice.

[bronze steeple]

Yea you prob right

[wide shore]

Balancing all the guns to be viable makes it so not everybody has to use the same 2 guns to have fun.

Cause then what’s the point in variety

That’s why some guns get buffed and others get nerfed. It’s a delicate balance.

[vagrant stirrup]

Then that makes the game boring

[next onyx]

@wide shore Forget about the mp9 and k30, It's all about close combat PBX now boy!

And that thing kills SO quickly.

[wide shore]

It’s always been about the PBX my guy. That gun has been shredding under the radar for a good while now

[next onyx]

212 MS TTK within 19 metres.

[acoustic island]

I will start using smgs when ever most maps get more cover, or tomorrow for the kalideoscope playlist

[full burrow]

ok mad concept, but instead of redoing new maps in terms of adding more cover, maybe we could also consider just making the size a bit smaller

[next onyx]

Why not give them a try now? They're not too bad Flea.

[full burrow]

all round

so you know the maps arnt stupidly big for no reason compared to any other title

[wide shore]

They are getting smaller.

[full burrow]

I played 128 kolakeidscope today, that didnt feel small to me

[wide shore]

Renewal’s revamp removes the E and A sectors completely in 128 CQ

[ripe hedge]

One thing i like to add to this, its a bit of a personal view. Weapons are, on a high level seen in 2 groups by the players, "Meta" and "Garbage". Its WAY easier to tweak a weapon into "Garbage" status, than it is to get a weapon from "Garbage" to "Meta".

Hence, when buffing, I try to go aggressive, to try to see it in "Meta" fast, so more people use it, so i get more useful data. Then, slow and incremental nerfs until it reaches the numbers i want. There are many knobs to twist, and twisting many at the same time yields confusing results.

Again, super personal view.

[next onyx]

Puts it more in align to 64P renewal except with a little more space.

[wide shore]

They said in the video yesterday that they didn’t feel Kaleidoscope needed to be made smaller since it’s already the smallest map.

[next onyx]

In a way you can see what needs to be adjusted Alex.

[vagrant stirrup]

If Kolakeidscope is 80% of it's origin size, it will be perfect imo

[next onyx]

What's the most pressing matter of x weapon.

[full burrow]

64 player layouts feel better for size but still arnt designed well

[next onyx]

Cause you know Alex. I love my SCAR to fucking bits. I just think that 70M as good as a range it is, It's a bit too good. 50M is a very good balance. (In my opinion)

[full burrow]

"slow and incremental nerfs" you got that right

[next onyx]

So they don't over do it.

[wide shore]

Totally makes sense to do it that way tbh.

[next onyx]

Look at what happened to the AT helis. They've been fucking gutted.

They are USELESS.

[full burrow]

I agree with making small changes often

but they do not make them even near often lol

[next onyx]

Ye sometimes they don't It's just what it is.

The 30mm cannon on the ST heli got a very good nerf.

[low timber]

Been now using the DM7 with close quarters ammo and the wrapped suppressor (first used 6KU but then I needed one more shot that always got me killed) not bad but sometimes the bullet just goes so far off where I aimed.

[full burrow]

can you name some changes they have made to a weps/ops w/e stats that have since been changes again

[next onyx]

You mean stuff that has been changed and then changed again?

[wide shore]

The PKP

[full burrow]

yeah something thats been changed drastically and then had smaller follow up changes

[next onyx]

Could say that for the entire weapon roster after it all got stealth buffed to shit and then they had to tone back it all.

[low timber]

But to be honest I was McKay and going left and right.

[next onyx]

Haha marse.

I don't want to use the DMR's but I need to get them to tier 1.

But only when my SCAR is on 20K!

I'm fucked in the head.

[wide shore]

PKP got buffed to massively lower the recoil. Then it became super meta. Then got nerfed.

[next onyx]

The GVT had a 20M OHK range and now it's been reduced to 5M.

[low timber]

Well I’ve been quite successful with using the DM7 as a DMR sniper with the Target 8T.

[full burrow]

and how long was at since release that one a change was made and then another change

[wide shore]

So it was good. Then great. Then good again.

[low timber]

As it does 77 damage from a headshot

[next onyx]

Dmr's aren't too bad in themselves. Just need to get adjusted to them.

[low timber]

And the HE grenade launcher is a must for that slight extra fire power.

[wide shore]

DM7 is decent. I don’t like the SVK tho

[next onyx]

My biggest issue with the VSS is that it feels superior over to the Dm7.

A straight upgrade.

[wide shore]

Because it is lol

[next onyx]

Well you know what I mean.

[tranquil turtle]

the dm7 is crazy

[wide shore]

If the DM7 could fire in full auto, then maybe

[next onyx]

300 RPM base vs 400 RPM base.

[tranquil turtle]

it was good before but now it's busted with the dmr buff

[ripe hedge]

The process varies a bit always, but its usually a combination of High Level "What is this weapon SUPPOSED to do" + Community Perception "What does the feedback say the weapon is doing Wrong (either too good or too bad ) + Data "Do the numbers match the observed behavior? do they match the expected behavior?" and then we look at individual pieces to see what knob to twist. Its not an exact science i know 🙂

[next onyx]

Faster TTK, Is suppressed so there isn't much in the way reducing the velocity, etc.

[low timber]

330 with close quarters ammo, DM7.

[next onyx]

Isn't it 360?

[low timber]

No, 330 on my screen right now

[next onyx]

I swear it's always been 360. REEEE.

Nah I get that entirely Alex.

[low timber]

Ok now it updated to 360 wtf

[next onyx]

Long barrel?

[low timber]

No

I have the tactical compensator, wrapped suppressor and champion muzzle

Champion muzzle for sniping to have less vertical recoil

[tacit sphinx]

barrels and ammo type still don’t always seem to affect the rate of fire stat listed on the screen

[next onyx]

You get the weirdest fire rates.

[drowsy shuttle]

did they fixed the loadout issue yet?

[next onyx]

I got 1200 for my AS VAL config when that wasn't the case.

Yes.

In reality it was 800.

[low timber]

Yup, looking at VCAR now and when I hover over the short barrel it says 520 or on close combat it says 450.

[tacit sphinx]

i like standard ammo, cobra grip, maul hybrid and champion muzzle break

[low timber]

I’ve used the subsonic quite a bit.

[tacit sphinx]

but also it does still feel like the occasional shot goes off to brazil, idk if that’s when i’m moving about with a grip that punishes that

i did consider subsonic actually

[sullen lynx]

🚮

[low timber]

Just fyi, subsonics lose 40 rate of fire compared to standard on DM7.

[quiet shell]

My personal take on weapon balance is by making Weapons work too different fine tuned playstyles. I remember in battlefield 4, even if a lot of the weapons felt samey, each one did something a little or majorly different to allow for fine tuning. I feel the approach to the weapons should be; which playstyle is this weapon for instead of how should we make this weapon available to everyone?

[tacit sphinx]

long barrel, high power, a grip or bipod and a high power optic is actually pretty cool as a sniper build

[low timber]

Standard is 330 while subsonic is 290

[next onyx]

The stubby grip is a really good attachment for semis.

[tacit sphinx]

stick the bipod on and you can get a pretty good accurate fire rate

[low timber]

What? Now it says 260 on subsonics when I moved away and hovered over the subsonics again

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it’s a bit wacky lol

it’d be nice if the rate of fire showed in the plus menu screen as well

[bronze steeple]

[low timber]

I only need 10 kills with the HE to unlock the incendiary for the DM7

Thought I’ll keep BCG, HE and Bipod.

[tacit sphinx]

maul hybrid works really nicely on it because you have the immediate choice of mid range level magnification and a holo sight

[ripe hedge]

Understandable, its also a sound way to look at it

[low timber]

I use the new 4,5-1.25x, plus fusion Holo and Bravo 3x

[next onyx]

I just noticed the way the BSV is described jeez that's kinda dark.

"The last iteration of this platform"

[low timber]

First used a 2x but didn’t feel good for me so then I swapped to 2,5x and still not quite so took the good old Bravo 3x

[tacit sphinx]

i think some of it is also the visuals - like bf4, yeah maybe some of the guns were borderline reskins, but they were reskinned to someone’s favourite gun and it just registers as a better variety of weapons

[next onyx]

Or something, I only remember the first three words.

3x, Always reliable!

[low timber]

Classic Russian rifle

[next onyx]

Yes.

[tacit sphinx]

2x might actually be nice on it now because they increased the size of the optic

[next onyx]

I literally just Alt f4'd my game.

Cause I just wanted to check some stuff.

[low timber]

Maybe, but no point swapping now that I’m succeeding with the 3x

[next onyx]

2x is sorta nice?

I tried to use it and hated it.

[tacit sphinx]

but honestly if you’ve got the bravo 3x you may as well just switch it for the hybrid, the reticle is almost identical + you get a red dot for free which switches quicker than the plus menu

[next onyx]

It would be cool if we could stick the bf5's 3x on.

[low timber]

Still a bit odd feeling that ACOG is supposed to be 4x but the 3x weeks closer to the magnification I remember from previous games than on the 4x

[next onyx]

Those scopes were clear.

[low timber]

I’d love a Kobra sight tho

[next onyx]

Kobra is just comfortable.

I would love to see it in one way or another.

[low timber]

like I do love the K8 Holo but it just don’t feel good in some weapons.

[tacit sphinx]

that eotech holo + flip up magnifier on one of the marines’ rifles in the background of that one recent player card would be nice

[next onyx]

I wish the fusion holo and k8 holo felt equally as good.

Fusion holo is just fat on some guns.

And it's really good on a basic scar.

[low timber]

The one that was in BF4?

[next onyx]

OH YEAH. The hybrid sight from bf4.

That was really really cool.

You could make some really cool optics with it.

[low timber]

But only 2x which didn’t magnify almost at all, and still a big blob on the side

[tame cobalt]

How is that dark in any way

[next onyx]

Yeah it was largely useless and more of a hindrance.

It means that the program discontinued!

The poor VSS platform...

[tame cobalt]

So?

[next onyx]

EEE.

[tacit sphinx]

yeah, although i think the flip up magnifier was a separate item, but i think it would work as a set + just be a new option

[tame cobalt]

L platform clearly

[low timber]

Oh yeah, odd that the canted on the 8T are irons and not canted red dot, like on Hardline you could choose ether canted irons or canted red dot.

[sharp marten]

I just noticed there’s a countdown till season 1 is done

[tacit sphinx]

i’d use it on an lmg definitely

[sharp marten]

Pretty cool

[tame cobalt]

Time left to get that Lis drip

[next onyx]

Is it just me or are the HOLO sights in this game sort of awkward?

[low timber]

Well if we get new sights with extra on them (like the canted irons) the what about Grips with extra stuff?

[next onyx]

The Reticule is sorta off.

[low timber]

Or the good old flashlight/laser combo

[sharp marten]

I completed the pass so now we wait

[next onyx]

I was thinking how cool a grenade launcher LVG variant would be.

[tame cobalt]

Temporyal is still on vacation so i guess we'll have to rely on dice themselves for season 2 news

[next onyx]

A bouncy grenade.

[fierce gull]

so when am I gonna equip cobra grip and a laser sight at the same time

[low timber]

Well that easy to add, just uses the same grenade launcher model and animations, just a new projectile

[sharp marten]

Alex show us the leaks

[next onyx]

Or an EMP grenade ammo type, But that might be a bit too much.

[tacit sphinx]

idk sights are easier to come up with since you just slap it on, grips actually need a role

[low timber]

Motion sensor launcher

[tame cobalt]

Season 2 gadget, AA mine pls?

[tacit sphinx]

but yeah other attachments in other slots would be neat potentially

[next onyx]

Smoke grenade launcher, Oh wait. It's fucking USELESS!

[tame cobalt]

How

[low timber]

Well think about rattlesnake grip, in my opinion it feels useless as we have the laser, but what if you could have them both? Double hip fire bonus.

[next onyx]

The smoke dissipates within a second or two.

[tacit sphinx]

smoke launcher works properly now so it’s decent as another slot you can put smoke in

[tame cobalt]

W

[next onyx]

Yeah Dr it's the same. It dissipates quickly still.

[tacit sphinx]

it used to disappear instantly but from what i’ve seen/played it hangs about for a bit longer now

[next onyx]

Yeah I've used it to revive people for the smoke weekly challenge.

[low timber]

You know, what if smokes got a rework? Instead of a smoke explosion they would be more realistic where the canister stays on the floor gusting more and more smoke out? And then you could even throw it back.

Wait

[next onyx]

That'd be pretty cool actually.

[low timber]

Then people would just abuse it by throwing it more and more to cover bigger areas

[random nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tzUz0f12zE

[low timber]

I think Dice tried that smoke mechanic in BF4 tanks in PTS, but never made it.

[tacit sphinx]

but yeah idk i’d like some of the optics that are only on a small handful of guns to be added to more guns, like the smart 2x, DD holo and PP (i think) holo which is only on two sidearms lol

also some guns randomly not having some of the low power optics

[wide shore]

I feel like that would be a nightmare to do in an online game with 128p

[low timber]

Worse than 128 people shooting a smoke launcher that shoots 3 nades?

[wide shore]

Well, the smoke is static once it is placed

[low timber]

Oh yeah Way, I accidentally used the HE launcher as a mortar on Breakaway Breakthrough, on first sector I just shot it at the flags direction and Ding!.

[wide shore]

Having the particles be thrown around and having all that sync up with everyone seems like it would be a pain. But I’m not a dev so maybe I’m just talking out my ass

[arctic grove]

128 Conquest Smoke grenades ONLY

[low timber]

Smoke grenades, smoke launcher and Sfar with smoke.

[arctic grove]

Exactly

It be epic since no one can see and no thermals have been added to the game yet

[low timber]

Paik: let me introduce myself.

[wide shore]

Speaking of Paik. Damn she looks so much better now

Chipmunk Paik was an interesting look

But being a human definitely works for her

[arctic grove]

Right????

She cute now

[tranquil turtle]

I unironically run this in 16v16 rush

[arctic grove]

W

[tranquil turtle]

Being able to smoke out the entire map as one person is awesome

[next onyx]

LOL.

I should show you what happened the other day.

@low timber

[tame cobalt]

Yeah that would be broken

[copper fulcrum]

Sounds like someone hit you in the gut lol

[rocky kraken]

how do you guys post clips

in here

[wide shore]

“Bonk”

I need to get that SFAR skin. That red dot is cleaannn

Once I get the weeklies done tomorrow I should have enough boins

[arctic grove]

B-Bucks

[hexed mango]

Boins

🅱️oins

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

[rocky kraken]

morbius

i need to share a clip but how

show me clip god

[grizzled whale]

dm it to me and ill post it

@rocky kraken i said dm it, dont add me

[rocky kraken]

i cant dm

it says i have toadd u

[arctic grove]

Discord Moment

[rocky kraken]

oof

[grizzled whale]

okay

ill make an exception

[rocky kraken]

🙂

[grizzled whale]

you should feel honored

a god allows you on their friends list

[rocky kraken]

thansk

how do i copy a clip from files

[grizzled whale]

just press the +, then select the file

[rocky kraken]

it says its too big

[grizzled whale]

thats what she said

[rocky kraken]

....

[grizzled whale]

yeah you gotta cut it a bit then

[rocky kraken]

okay

[grizzled whale]

or just upload it to some site like imgur

wait whats that site called

[arctic grove]

Angel does it again!

[rocky kraken]

dam

the clip is four seconds and is to long

lol

am i allowed to post a youtube link in here

[grizzled whale]

dm the link to me

ill fix it

[rocky kraken]

okay

[red notch]

how dare you say that about a dog

[grizzled whale]

well here it is

@rocky kraken's video

😑

[rocky kraken]

thanks

u wizard

[wide shore]

How tf did you get the dozer

[tame cobalt]

Bro WHERE is the AIM ASSIST

[wide shore]

Oh, he was facing away

Nvm

I’m dumb

[arctic grove]

Are you on Xbox? It’s working well on PS5

[wide shore]

It really doesn’t feel like it changed at all

[tame cobalt]

Aim assist is actually worse now for me

It doesn't stick to targets at all

[arctic grove]

Strange, the gunplay experience is a lot better now for me

[grizzled whale]

bro

just aim

[tame cobalt]

bro

[grizzled whale]

no need for aim assist

just ai

m

[tame cobalt]

no

[grizzled whale]

wtf is my keyboard doing

[thick tusk]

Semi related and potentially dumb question. How do the streamers shoot full auto with such low recoil going on? I'm assuming mouse and keyboard dragging thr mouse down when shooting?

I'm on ps5 and haven't been able to replicate it.

[arctic grove]

Hands and wrists are generally better than thumbs to be honest

[wide shore]

A mix of holding the recoil down, and ADS FOV

Jackfrags made a good video about it. Albeit it’s about warzone. But still applicable.

[grizzled whale]

pretty much

[arctic grove]

Yeah make sure you toggle your fov up to 90-100 for the lowest visual recoil effect

[grizzled whale]

thats called recoil control

[thick tusk]

I see, thanks I was pretty sure it's easier on mouse than controller. Aims fine on ps5 but yeah can't control the recoil that well

[grizzled whale]

aiming is easier on mouse than a controller in general

[low timber]

He he, you know that on Manifest BT second sector between the two objectives there are few open containers you can only get in with McKay? Was in one of them and enemies kept throwing frags in but I just threw them out again

[tame cobalt]

Orbital and manifest conquest is poggers in both 64p and 128p

The cq128 area of orbital that isn't in the 64p version, is what needs work on that map

Too
Damn
Spread
Out

[arctic grove]

they should cook their frags

[tame cobalt]

Really praying that's what they look at for the orbital changes

[arctic grove]

Nobody speaks badly on lord orbitals map design

[tame cobalt]

Based tbh

[arctic grove]

I’ll give you a real brain messer upper to think about

Hourglass rework

[upper socket]

[noble moth]

Did they give the ak 24 a stealth boost?

[upper socket]

Gvt is so fun to use, only used it for a bit and already mastry 4

[grizzled whale]

gvt can be so much fun

quickscope king

[tranquil turtle]

unable to load persistence data

here we go again

[grizzled whale]

its cuz you want jets to be in a seperate category

[tranquil turtle]

cringe ea

[rocky kraken]

yeaaa

i havenet been able to get a jet since beta

lol

[tranquil turtle]

you're not missing out on much

jets are meant to destroy air vehicles but there are only max 2 air vehicles operated by a team at any given point in time

[rocky kraken]

thats dum

are those movement changes in the game for soldier?

[tame cobalt]

Returnal ruins my aim lmao

That game has some insanely strong aim assist

[idle lion]

gg i reached level 60 and thats it, i will never ever boot up bf2042 fuck dice, fuck ea

[rocky kraken]

wait has there always been animation to get into the electric truck

[rocky kraken]

be free

[idle lion]

i dont know why i forced myself to suffer

[lilac dust]

It's a little challenging getting this 10 kills / assists in a vehicle in a single round challenge done because the game is all infantry conquest now 😐

[idle lion]

through 60 levels

of shittiness

but i did it

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

[idle lion]

i now have everything unlocked

[arctic grove]

There’s always been vehicle enter animations I think. It’s just instant to the vehicle now instead of first showing you get in through first person

[idle lion]

shit is worthless but hey at least i can say i didnt waste 30$ for nothing

instead i got 80 hours of playing

boring but it was playtime non the less

[grizzled whale]

because you liked it

[tame cobalt]

Kaleidoscope rework tho, SHEEEEEEEEEESH 🔥 🔥 🔥

[grizzled whale]

but you are just hating it cuz its cool to hate 2042

[idle lion]

mate if i liked it, i wouldnt be talking to your rn

id be playing the game

cause thats what i do

[arctic grove]

What movement changes, the third person animations? I believe so

[grizzled whale]

mate if you really didnt like it you wouldnt have spent 80 hours on it

hating on the game even though you like it isnt cool

[idle lion]

except i dont like it

[grizzled whale]

admitting you like it even tho its an unpopular opinion is

[idle lion]

the game as a whole i dont like it

[grizzled whale]

then you wouldnt have put 80 hours into it

[arctic grove]

Who would ever spend 80hrs on a game they don’t like?

[grizzled whale]

nobody

[idle lion]

i put in 80 hours cause i put in 30 dollars mate

[grizzled whale]

they do it because they like it but dont want to admit it

[idle lion]

or ever thought that i just wanted to get my moneysworth and then dip?

even if i dont like it

[grizzled whale]

so your train of thought after 5 hours was "god i dont like this game, what a waste of 30 bucks, LETS PLAY 75 MORE HOURS BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT"

you didnt get your moneys worth if you didnt enjoy it

but you did

[idle lion]

i did get my moneysworth cause i ended up unlocking something

[grizzled whale]

on a game you dont enjoy

[idle lion]

and feeling "self-accomplishment"

[grizzled whale]

you hated every 80 hours of it

[idle lion]

even if its on a game i didnt like

yes

[grizzled whale]

so you wasted time AND money

just admit you had fun playing, its okay

[idle lion]

also can you shut up so i can tell you what i DID like?

[arctic grove]

You liked everything about it we already know

[grizzled whale]

exactly

[idle lion]

can you stfu for a sec

[grizzled whale]

you realise you can keep typing no matter what we say right

you dont need a talking stick

[idle lion]

yeah but it angers me

[grizzled whale]

cool

wont stop me from talking tho

[idle lion]

i was gonna praise the game for the unlocks system

the leveling system

[grizzled whale]

which is basic AF

okay

[idle lion]

even though it had bugs

which made me lose more hours of playtime

but i overlooked that

[grizzled whale]

which you didnt mind cuz you enjoyed playing

[idle lion]

the movement was fun

and the specialists story was good

thats all

everything else was a catastrophe

[grizzled whale]

which you still enjoyed enough to put 80 hours into

got it

[idle lion]

god how do you not understand that i did it just to unlock the things

[grizzled whale]

i am a higher being, i can see your true feeling

which is you enjoyed it

[idle lion]

what the 5 times i got 10killstreak with the noobiest gun in the world aka the k30

yes i enjoyed that

but it felt unfair

cause i was getting the kills way too fast with no skill involved

[hexed mango]

k30 is a good gun bozo

[idle lion]

its WAY TOO GOOD

[hexed mango]

its alright

[grizzled whale]

dudes going from "i hated the whole 80 hours" to " this part i liked, and this too, and this, and this, and then that part"

[idle lion]

i was listing what i liked just to tell you it wasnt all bad

[grizzled whale]

theres no shame in admitting you enjoy the game

[idle lion]

and thats what pushed me through the 80 hours

[grizzled whale]

we wont force you to commit sepuku

[idle lion]

either way

lets talk about the bad

[grizzled whale]

its okay

we dont judge

[grizzled whale]

as an empath i can feel that its blocking your chakras

[grizzled whale]

how much kills did you have again?

[hexed mango]

like 0

[grizzled whale]

average jet main'

[hexed mango]

tbh i played jet for a week

[grizzled whale]

does 482 loops and crashes into a mountain

[hexed mango]

havent touched it since i T1'd it

[idle lion]

K30, BSV-M, performance issues, black screen after finishing every bfportal match(and ea support sucking ass), stealth helis being way too op.

[arctic grove]

I should really t1 all the US weapons and vehicles

[hexed mango]

skill issue

ok

there's no "US" weapons

[grizzled whale]

stealth heli is countered ez

just wildcat

ez

[hexed mango]

ez

what do you run on wildcat

[idle lion]

good luck getting the wildcat

[arctic grove]

LCMG, M5A3,

[idle lion]

everyones already hopped in it

[grizzled whale]

i have

[idle lion]

and not focusing on the heli

[hexed mango]

yeah but i mean RU can use them just the same

[arctic grove]

I have bias for the US stuff

[hoary kettle]

I never go for piloting jets in BF. I find them too fast to do anything.

[grizzled whale]

wouldnt say that looking at your pfp

[idle lion]

i honestly dont mind the fact they added specialists but bro why the fuck would you not iron out the bugs

[hexed mango]

@grizzled whale what do you use on wc

[grizzled whale]

cuz the publisher forced you to release a year early?

[grizzled whale]

for AA?

[hexed mango]

cuz joe

sure

[idle lion]

isnt this a year later? why are all the bugs still here

well not all

[hexed mango]

*some

[idle lion]

^^^

[hexed mango]

so the same thing as me

[grizzled whale]

because they had to work on content now too

[hexed mango]

what about weapon stations

[grizzled whale]

instead of focusing on fixing the bugs in the year of extra development, then when the game releases in a good state work on content

missile barrage and flak

but im always solo in AA

[hexed mango]

k

[grizzled whale]

people are useless

me standing on a cliffside so i can shoot down on exposure

[idle lion]

maybe once they fix the rest of the bugs and balance it a bit better ill redownload it again

[hexed mango]

have you played the new update?

[grizzled whale]

dumbasses pushing me off with the blowback of the missiles

[idle lion]

cause the game in itself without bugs and some balancing would be fun

[idle lion]

yes

ive been playing all day today

[arctic grove]

Needa fix the auto run glitch tho

[idle lion]

saw an increase in 12m auto players

[grizzled whale]

but yeah, safe to say ive used the wildcat quite a bit

[hexed mango]

safe to say i suck

[grizzled whale]

mastery 92, 3145 kills, 1675 vehicles destroyed, 1,300,075m driven

damn

[arctic grove]

Nah

[grizzled whale]

1.3 million meters

[grizzled whale]

you know

you could just do this

instead

[grizzled whale]

@hexed mango idk if its still viable, but this is the tank hunter

[hexed mango]

ye

[grizzled whale]

you can 2v1 against 2 MBTs and win

[arctic grove]

[hollow oriole]

anyone having problems with unlocking attachments?

[arctic grove]

The only instance I’ve had with that was that 4x scope with canted iron sights, but it unlocked after the update

[tranquil turtle]

t1 the other jet

[hollow oriole]

its weird I have enough kills for the attachments but they are still locked.

[next onyx]

Yeah noodle it's a known issue. Trying playing against bots. It should force the unlock.

[hollow oriole]

alright thanks

[arctic grove]

Yea, I have the same issue still with a dozer skin

[tame cobalt]

Ok, valpo's cq64 version is actually kinda pog. Just not really a fan of how the cluster layout makes it feel like a huge stalemate

[next onyx]

Try Mackay.

You can get flanks and get so many kills.

Grapple up into the mountain and get some free kills.

It's why I fucking love it.

[placid echo]

So, as just a test. I decided to see how much damage a Ranger can do to a vehicle by self-destructing. Turns out it's more than what you might expect

[hexed mango]

is it 1 damage instead of 0?

[placid echo]

It's like a quarter of health against a Wildcat

[tame cobalt]

Valpo conquest reminding me of solomon islands from bfv (jungle map) which i enjoyed a lot

[arctic grove]

Tehran Highway in portal when

[placid echo]

I really wanna see someone take out a player controlled vehicle with this but of course not planned with the victim

[lilac dust]

a TDM map at B1 would be chefs kiss

[low timber]

July 14th 2021

"And yes, before you ask, you can place a C5 Explosive on Ranger and send them into an enemy squad," writes EA. A far cry from petting the dog.

[arctic grove]

BRO THATS ANIMAL ABUSE

DONT BLOW UP THE RANGER

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Blowing up rangers is a war crime

[placid echo]

lol

[tame cobalt]

bf2042 pog

[next onyx]

BANZAI.

[tame cobalt]

2042 best bf

[arctic grove]

Based

[tame cobalt]

People just don't get it

[arctic grove]

2042 also has the franchises best maps

[tame cobalt]

They think the game is still like launch

[tame cobalt]

Yes, like exposure, manifest, orbital, Kaleidoscope, caspian border, valparaiso, arica harbor, noshahr canals

Fire maps

[arctic grove]

Rangers are only meant for killing and petting. NOT blowing them up like a suicide bomber.

[arctic grove]

Feels like it now. With all the added content we have now

[tame cobalt]

Ye this is proper launch BF 2042 IS REAL BOIS

[arctic grove]

FINALLY WE EATING GOOD

All the game needs now is a really big content drop

Anime skins

[tame cobalt]

And that's all it's not gonna get

[arctic grove]

15+ guns moment

[tame cobalt]

EA just wants people to say 2042 is good now when they start marketing the next game. That's the entire strategy of 2042 support. They don't actually wanna save it

[hexed mango]

just move the portal guns over already :(

[hexed mango]

ea poop

[arctic grove]

Creative albeit a shame

[dapper river]

pain

[arctic grove]

A long as we get an M17, M9A3, and standard M4 I don’t care what else they do

[dapper river]

baretta sux, doesn't even have pickadiddly rails

[arctic grove]

Funny slide rail moment

[arctic grove]

crap even

[hexed mango]

M98B

[arctic grove]

We also need a CS5

[wide shore]

Ahem

[dapper river]

they need art assets for mastery badges and UI work to ensure they can be added within the menus seamlessly, additional tweaking to keep the weapons in a good spot within the existing sandbox's balance, additional work to add 2042 attachments and ensure the weapons function as intended with said attachments, not to mention hours and hours of certification and QA. these things, they take time.

[arctic grove]

A tan or silver Garand with piccatinny rails would be so cool

[dapper river]

and still, something is going to break when they do eventually add portal weapons, but if they test it right, it'll be a minor bug like "oh the red dot sight on the XM8 doesn't quite align" or something, not, "oh fuck adding this new weapon literally crashes the server"

[tranquil turtle]

Gross

[cosmic sequoia]

They need to remove the 50mm from transport choppers/vehicles. Support choppers needs to be reduced to 1 except on hourglass. Need more attack choppers and the Apache/hokum need major buffs

[arctic grove]

There definitely shouldn’t be 2 per team imo

[cosmic sequoia]

Stealth choppers need to be removed

[arctic grove]

Nah, just make the stealth mode increase lock on times, not entirely diminish the ability to lock on

[hexed mango]

yeah but theyve been working on it for 3 months already

[arctic grove]

The stealth mode should just work like stealth coating from BF4

[dapper river]

And you'll probably only have to wait 1 more month for the first portal weapons to show up

[upper socket]

Im kinda salty

[cosmic sequoia]

That’s true. They could also move jets into their own category. Should be more attack choppers though

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

Indeed, more attack helis would be appreciated

[cosmic sequoia]

Bf4 and bf5 both 64 player games have more vehicles than 2042 which is double the amount of players

[upper socket]

Got to 120 kills with the gvt and it says i have 120 kills but wont lemme use the standard rounds

:/

[cosmic sequoia]

In bf5 on most maps it’s 4 tanks and 3 planes, on 4, most maps it’s 2 jets, one attack chopper and one little bird, with 2-4 tanks.

[arctic grove]

I feel like the transports weapons are okay but there definitely shouldn’t be 2

[cosmic sequoia]

Without a doubt shouldn’t be 2.

The super kind needs to get fitted

Gutted*

Super hind*

In battlefield 4, there’s only 1 transport chopper per map, and it has 2 mini guns, that’s it

When you can have 2 people repairing your vehicle and your tanks af, the 50mm is overkill

[tranquil turtle]

Reduce the health of both transports

[cosmic sequoia]

OMFG I love your name

Lmaoooo

@tranquil turtle

[tranquil turtle]

They were never meant to be this tanky

[arctic grove]

Not to mention the self repair which can put you from critical to like over 50 HP in a few seconds

[cosmic sequoia]

Yeah for real

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/orangutan-orangutan-baby-baby-orangutan-orangutan-kiss-kiss-gif-24373275

[fiery shoal]

what my wife sees when i leave for work

[tranquil turtle]

I would be fine if they buffed the speed of the hind but nerfed its health

[edgy oriole]

[cosmic sequoia]

I jumped on the band wagon

[dapper river]

Transport choppers are in a good spot, I think. 50mm was nerfed further to encourage people to use them as mobile flying transports, not gunships. In All Out Superiority those things get swatted thanks to the Wildcat's AA buffs

[upper socket]

Practicing with jets is super fun

[cosmic sequoia]

not if your wildcats are too worried about killing the stealth choppers that are fucking your team up

[upper socket]

Getting better with its aa

[edgy oriole]

50m nerf is crazy. I love it

[cosmic sequoia]

50mm should just be removed

[arctic grove]

Yeah true the wildcat is apparently pretty solid now, I’d have to see for myself how it performs

[cosmic sequoia]

it DESTROYS other air vehicles

one shot and an enemy chopper/jet etc is just toast

[upper socket]

Need tp level up za jet

[dapper river]

Just fly away lol

[cosmic sequoia]

XD

[upper socket]

Heh

[tacit sphinx]

that’s fine though lol

[cosmic sequoia]

no it makes no fucking sense

[upper socket]

Thats good air has beem too good as of recent

[cosmic sequoia]

you mean stealth choppers have been too good

[upper socket]

Ye

Love being the gunner in one

But not the driver

[cosmic sequoia]

theyre fucking OP

impossible to kill

[tacit sphinx]

never has the concern been “damn this is too good against enemy air” because it’s very difficult to actually hit the shots unless they’re just hovering almost stationary below you

[cosmic sequoia]

or if you're getting chased

it shouldn't be in the game period

wasn't in 4

[upper socket]

Are jets good?

[cosmic sequoia]

shouldn't be in 2042

[arctic grove]

Ye, to be fair it isn’t easy to hit shots with against moving targets, but still terrifying

[tacit sphinx]

it’s fine now tbh

[cosmic sequoia]

jets are really good for air vehicles and ground vehicles, not so much infantry

[next onyx]

50mm is fine right now.

[upper socket]

Aight

[next onyx]

It's actually balanced.

[cosmic sequoia]

"50mm is fine right now" people who don't use vehicles at all

lmao

[next onyx]

I've been abused by it lots pre nerf.

[cosmic sequoia]

like has to literally be the biggest joke ive heard

[upper socket]

I started to train with jets an hour ago and having fun with aa

[next onyx]

You need to actually aim with the damn thing.

[cosmic sequoia]

"yeah the 50mm cannon that destroys other vehicles in 1-2 shots is balanced, by the way it's a TRANSPORT vehicle"

i get you guys are going to die on this hill

but it doesn't make sense

[next onyx]

It's low velocity makes it fucky against air vehicles.

And easily counterable.

[tacit sphinx]

ok? just say that you’re salty you got nailed by it when you were hovering still and move on lol

[cosmic sequoia]

EASILY COUNTERABLE HE SAYS

alright, now i definitely know you guys have 0 clue what you're talking about

[hexed mango]

it also takes 2 years to reload

[next onyx]

In an air vehicle. The ST chopper can annihilate a transport zero issue.

[cosmic sequoia]

stealth choppers are fucking op as shit

they can destroy everything

need to be removed from the game

[next onyx]

The night bird too.

[cosmic sequoia]

yeah the nightbird can destroy a super hind, good joke

[next onyx]

I dunno man have you tried aiming?

[cosmic sequoia]

actually mind boggling

[wide shore]

50mm is a lot less of a shot stain after the last 2 nerfs

[outer anchor]

these devs man

[cosmic sequoia]

from what it sounds like you guys don't even have the game installed lmao

[outer anchor]

take 5 minutes and fix dozer's shield

[next onyx]

The reduction in it's blast, fire rate, resupply, reserve and just general potency left it in a good place.

[cosmic sequoia]

a super hind with a full crew + one repair person is close to unstoppable.

from any air vehicle that is

[wide shore]

Couldn’t come soon enough either.

[next onyx]

Hey at least the 30mm cannons in the ST choppers can blow people out.

[copper fulcrum]

If the other air vehicle can just aim at the big hitbox then it can be stopped

[upper socket]

I feel bad for condors tbh

They get railed

[next onyx]

The newly buffed wildcat aa can harass it easily too.

[grizzled whale]

Its 8 shots for a wildcat now

[next onyx]

Infact I've never seen a hind fucking run like shit so hard until today.

[edgy oriole]

Yeah it takes ages to reload 50m now.

[cosmic sequoia]

@grizzled whale what are you talking about

[grizzled whale]

And by the time they can hit 8 shots on a wildcat the pilot has already fucked off cuz hes about to die

The 50mm cannon

[next onyx]

It's supposed to be an anti vehicle cannon no?

[grizzled whale]

On transports

[grizzled whale]

Was the wildcat buffed?

Didnt really need a buff

[next onyx]

Yeah the 30MM AA has no damage drop off.

[tacit sphinx]

honestly it felt fine before the patch to me, was still powerful but not like “wrecks everyone” good

[grizzled whale]

Oh 30mm

[edgy oriole]

Wildcat was buffed indeed

[cosmic sequoia]

I'm not even talking about the wildcat.. I'm talking about the transport vehicles that somehow have 3 gunner spots lmaooo. makes no sense.

[next onyx]

And it's heatseekers have a 600/650 lock on range.

[grizzled whale]

Wait 30mm is the machine guns?

[next onyx]

30mm AA cannon.

[grizzled whale]

Oh

[next onyx]

That default cannon.

[grizzled whale]

Thags good then

[next onyx]

Gun gun gun.

[copper fulcrum]

It's almost as if it's intended to take out air vehicles

[tacit sphinx]

idk i need to test it out now but it was already in a relatively fine spot so i can’t see there being issues with it now, if anything it might now be a little underpowered

[grizzled whale]

Imma shred more air vehicles then

[copper fulcrum]

Put the Flak Pod on it as well and bam

[edgy oriole]

I havent seen how the stealth helicopter nerf is tho. I only played a couple games yesterday

[cosmic sequoia]

its likethey didnt touch it

[next onyx]

I've been harassed across the map by wildcats it is obnoxious.

[cosmic sequoia]

you can't just nerf something that is mechanically op as shit

[tacit sphinx]

but then it sounds like they primarily want it to be anti vehicle not anti infantry so

it’s fair enough

[grizzled whale]

Well you can easily survive a strafing run now

[edgy oriole]

They kill me through walls

[cosmic sequoia]

the stealth choppers just need to be removed lmao

[next onyx]

The 50mm they wanted to make anti vehicle yeah. Something it's meant for.

[copper fulcrum]

Nah

Just get a recoilless shot in

[cosmic sequoia]

why

[next onyx]

They need to balance the ST choppers better.

[cosmic sequoia]

a transport vehicle should not be ANTI ANYTHING

[grizzled whale]

57mm still king againdt vehicles

[tacit sphinx]

i got a stealth heli with the carl gustavo yesterday

[edgy oriole]

How's the cooldown tho does it make a difference or nah

[tacit sphinx]

ok cope

[cosmic sequoia]

a transport vehicle is meant to be anti walking

not anti vehicles, infantry or whatever

[grizzled whale]

6 wel placed shots from a 57mm downs a condor

[copper fulcrum]

It shoots like 25% of the shots it could before needing to cool-down

[tacit sphinx]

it should actually be a defenceless free multikill 🤓

[next onyx]

I've been flying to get the ST choppers to tier 1 so when the lobby starts locking onto you yadda yadda it's tiring.

[cosmic sequoia]

jesus christ no wonder this game doesnt get any better, we have monkeys in here

[grizzled whale]

Ooga booga