battlefield-2042

[mental delta]

Nothing for the moment, nobody talked about it except here where we all agree that a naval map would be a good addition to the game

[balmy halo]

But I'm not content with stuttering

[lilac dust]

Yeah. I mean excited for the possibility cos the assets are in the game files. Be super weird if they didn't use the boats and jetskis that have tier 1 badges connected to them tho

[wide shore]

Funny thing is, Kaleidoscope’s River isn’t even deep anymore. Lol

[balmy halo]

Dk why my game stutters

[wide shore]

It’s like knee high now

[lilac dust]

Game files leaked boats and jetskis with badges connected

[acoustic island]

Oh thanks

[hidden sand]

Same for vehicles, BFV was the first time they were actually unique and provided different gameplay experiences. Sadly we're back to BF4 levels of boring.

[violet meteor]

I thought they said they weren't doing any naval content when we played orbital before release

[mental delta]

Ho yes I get it now, like weapons which are still used because they are cheap and that you can see in some combat areas where they grab every weapons they can, some Cold War era weapons would be really cool considering in BF2042 context specialists use whatever they can

[acoustic island]

Also, which do think is better, Kaleidoscope remake or exposure

[violet meteor]

Yes

[wide shore]

Especially in countries that have gone under. Which is common in the lore. Would make sense for some people to not use the most high-tech weaponry

[mental delta]

Yes me too the game really needs it and I would love to see some amphibious landing map, it would fit with BF2042 context and it would show to players that Dice is able to improve the game wisely

[wide shore]

Yeah, I don’t know too much about modern vehicles. I think in general WWII offered much more variety in vehicle designs than today. A lot less things were standardized

[mental delta]

Yes it wasn't really deep at the beginning though and you can't go underwater

[wide shore]

It was deep enough that you had to swim though. Don’t need to anymore

[lilac dust]

Exposure without a doubt because it's super difficult to make the base maps compete with a map like exposure, but kailedoscope changes are great

[wide shore]

There’s also a zip line across the River on one of the sides

[hidden sand]

Thing is, they could fictionalize things for the sake of gameplay. Modern tanks are pretty boring, and usuallg follow the same format. They could alter that but for some reason they never have with their modern games.

[mental delta]

Yes totally, in the artworks you can see a lot of modern or Cold War era weapons I noticed, I saw AKM, some M4 and maybe some others but I'm not sure what exactly

[violet meteor]

Exposure is def top map for me, and I gotta put more time into kaleidoscope but overall the additions were pretty solid. Moving objectives definitely helped.

Kinda wondering what they are gonna change for renewal tho

[upper socket]

I hate renewal with a passion

[violet meteor]

I know a lot of the green area is just straight up open space so prolly adding more shit to the fields

[hidden sand]

Reneal feels like a source engine map

Though to be fair

Most of the base maps do

[wide shore]

I wish you could destroy some of the D building.

[upper socket]

Cant see anything when im in the fields and just get dxred from e2

[wide shore]

It looks like a BF3 close quarters map and it’s just begging for some micro destruction.

[upper socket]

We need more interactive demolition

[violet meteor]

Lol just jumped off a skyscraper, on the way down I tapped the side of the building. Instant death.

[hidden sand]

Micro-destruction is really, really bad in this one.

[lilac dust]

I've had my fair share of jumping off roofs not thinking I'd need a parachute and been very wrong

[hidden sand]

It's ironic, brcause it can look good in Portal. With assets from BF1 and V.

[violet meteor]

Well i was just in free fall waiting to open at the last second

[wide shore]

This shit brought me back

We need shit like this in that D building.

[violet meteor]

Unfortunately you can't have 128 maps AND big destruction

[hidden sand]

128 players was such a huge mistake.

[violet meteor]

Prolly why they lowered the water level on kaleidoscope after adding more elements

[wide shore]

That ain’t big destruction tho

[violet meteor]

I know

[velvet sand]

aight, just finished the 1.2 video. not super exciting, but yay for the guy who mains Falck for life, I like that guy now. Props to the devs for getting Sundance's pronouns wrong consistently though, because I guess even they realize them being non-binary is a pointless detail.

[wide shore]

Games have been doing chipable walls for well over a decade. I’m not asking for them to let me collapse D. I totally get why the exterior has no destruction.

[violet meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/sakshi-okay-gif-24764953

[wide shore]

But the inside walls could benefit from micro stuff

[hidden sand]

This EX-DICE employee a while ago did a tutorial on how to make destructible houses, and tbh, after reading through his stuff I really doubt destruction is as hardware intensive as people think.

It's all pre-baked iirc.

[wide shore]

It is yeah

I mean they had it working on 7th Gen consoles.

And 2042 can handle 128 and destruction.

[outer anchor]

I really wish they would remove the big red glow around Lis' rocket

[upper socket]

It can if they remove excess files and elements thats arent nessesary

[violet meteor]

I wanna talk about the inside of the buildings on Hourglass. A ladder and strung cable in every room

[wide shore]

However those other buildings on renewal should be destructible. There’s no good reason they aren’t.

[hidden sand]

Lis' Rocket should have that so its counterable. She is ridiculously powerful as it is.

[solar obsidian]

also have to take into consideration all the others things they added over time since then, that takes up cpu performance,

ps4 and xbox one have laughable cpus by todays super budget standards

[wide shore]

Then, and maybe I’m being harsh. But don’t release the damn game on last gen if it’s gonna hold everything back.

[solar obsidian]

battlefield always scaled insanely poorly when the last game hits a generation,
if you remember how low res low playerbase bf4 was to even get that working on ps3

[violet meteor]

Breakaway has some fun destruction

[wide shore]

Either go all in, or don’t. Cause going halfway leads to shit like this.

[solar obsidian]

im also on that wagon, but its all about money

[upper socket]

Thing is as i said they need to remove exess files and unessecary features to help the specs

[wide shore]

The game in general has a good system. The maps just do not show it off.

[hidden sand]

Meh. I really doubt not having this game on last gen would have made much of a difference based on the things that have come out, but that's speculation.

[wide shore]

In previous titles maps were mostly just copy/pasted prefabs ready to explode with all too willing red barrels to show it off. Now it’s not like that

[solar obsidian]

properly not gonna be the most state of the art game even then,

but they would have so much performance overhead it would look so much better

[violet meteor]

Should just stop making games for last gen, or make more current gen exclusives

Ps5 be getting punished lately

[upper socket]

Ye ps5 only has 45hz lol

[wide shore]

Unfortunately due to the chip shortage most companies just can’t justify leaving last gen in the dust.

[solar obsidian]

pc also only have 45hz....

[violet meteor]

Yeah I get that

[hidden sand]

20hz servers on last gen btw which is fucking rough.

[hexed mango]

didnt sony thank scalpers on twitter

[hidden sand]

It shows.

[solar obsidian]

its the server tickrate you are talking about

[wide shore]

It sucks. Cause these new consoles are great. But it doesn’t have the population yet.

[upper socket]

Goes to show even with the good spec how inefficent the game is

[hexed mango]

they said something like "X million PS5s sold, thanks scalpers!"

[violet meteor]

But damn, shit has potential to run 120fps

Just being underutilized right now

[upper socket]

Exactly

[wide shore]

[solar obsidian]

stop mixing fps and tickrate together

[keen loom]

[violet meteor]

Tell you what tho, I'm ready for that ps5vr

[upper socket]

What if they changed the game to look similar to bf1

[wide shore]

That would be nice

You could obliterate maps in BF1

[upper socket]

Not in terms of maps but in art style

Sure destruction too

[toxic wigeon]

They can’t lol

[upper socket]

Bf1 i hear looks great

[solar obsidian]

45hz tickrate is how often the server updates,

why its 45hz is because we have gotten 128 players,

if you are looking at game like warzone that have 60hz they completely break if you get all 100 players into the area,

like we are seeing in breakthrough in bf2042

[toxic wigeon]

It’s the environment that looks good

[upper socket]

I dont mean in terms of wepons and maps, i mean in terms on non exessive art style

[toxic wigeon]

In bf1

Oh

[wide shore]

I destroyed all of St Quentin for the shits and giggles once. And damn man.

[violet meteor]

I used to get baked, turn my headset volume up and just trench warfare that game so hard with a suppression lmg

[solar obsidian]

many battleroyale games are fluctuating with its tickrate where its much lower that the 60hz max target in the beginning of a match

[hidden sand]

The terrain deformation was fucking amazing in BF1 too.

[wide shore]

And that ain’t even it cause the ground deformation that happened during a match was insane

[violet meteor]

It's like I was there man! I can still hear the screams man! His body is still over there man!

[wide shore]

Yuuuuppp

[toxic wigeon]

My friend and I played a game where we would hide in buildings and the other person would get a plane and crash into a building to kill us lol

[wide shore]

Hot Take. But I think BF1 has the best destruction in the series

[hidden sand]

So glad they didn't have levolution in BF1. Levolution is boring, imo. Destruction that is purely based on the players actions is far better than repetitive scripted events.

[hexed mango]

BF1 is just good all around

[toxic wigeon]

Idk

[ember lily]

has this game gotten better yet or nah

[toxic wigeon]

BfV was good

[violet meteor]

1 has the best air play

[ember lily]

bfv and bf1 best battlefields

[upper socket]

Instead of focusing on rigid rocks focus on trenches , and rather than adding more things people dont care for remove those, like setting game events to remove things like walls or buildings, or make holes, over adding rocks or relocating them.

[wide shore]

BFV was just as good as BF1. But it didn’t have good ground deformation.

[hexed mango]

and (i think i said this earlier) but everyone scrams to do the levolution and then its boring after that, looks cool for 5 seconds, and done.

[toxic wigeon]

I like 4 because it’s modern and hard

Bf1 and BfV feel easy Ngl

[wide shore]

For some reason when you shot the ground in BFV the crater would spawn above the terrain.

[toxic wigeon]

So does 2042

[hexed mango]

BF1 is harder than BF4

[toxic wigeon]

No way

[wide shore]

I found BF1 significantly easier than BF4

[violet meteor]

You want hard, go play bfv milsim XD

Oh man that sucked

[upper socket]

Wish EA would read this

[arctic grove]

BRO EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN PREACHING

[hexed mango]

easier to die, yes

[hidden sand]

Supposedly that was because of fortifications, which is partly why I dont want fortifications back lol.

[solar obsidian]

you want hard, go play squad

[upper socket]

Pope material

[wide shore]

Really? Was it so they weren’t floating? And instead clipped?

[hexed mango]

hot take: fortifications are overrated

[wide shore]

That actually makes sense.

[toxic wigeon]

I like fortification

[wide shore]

I never even thought of that

[toxic wigeon]

They were fun

[hexed mango]

just add more in world cover like kaleido did

[solar obsidian]

nothing like lobbing nades over fortification while they are building them

[violet meteor]

But it wasn't realistic

[edgy oriole]

@hexed mango

[violet meteor]

/s

[hidden sand]

Fortifications were kind of useless imo. BF is simply too fast paced for them to truly work.

[toxic wigeon]

Not true

[hexed mango]

yeah i heard

[wide shore]

I thought fortifications were cool. But I wasn’t too fussed they I heard they weren’t coming back.

[toxic wigeon]

I mean there were maps that made them really good

[wide shore]

I was more miffed about the cool movement stuff going away

[toxic wigeon]

That one bridge one

[wide shore]

Rotterdam?

[toxic wigeon]

I can’t remember the name

[arctic grove]

They dont call me the DICE clown for nuthin

[toxic wigeon]

It was a launch map

[arctic grove]

FACTS

[toxic wigeon]

I haven’t played V in a while

[wide shore]

You could build bridges across the canal if the bridge got destroyed

On Rotterdam

[violet meteor]

I enjoy being able to crawl on my back while being able to fire

[hexed mango]

(if you mean stuff like crouch sprint and leaning) sam said that the team also feels that way, wanting to add them back

[wide shore]

Yeah. I liked the roll too.

[bitter skiff]

This is happening since update?

[wide shore]

And things like laying on your side and back felt more immersive.

[toxic wigeon]

Twisted steel

That one

[hexed mango]

however, they also said they didnt feel like prone on back was a solid addition purely for the readability issues with being able to sit in a corner, and not really be seen by the enemy
he didnt explain too much but idk

[hexed mango]

roll?

[wide shore]

I don’t remember twisted steel having really significant fortifications

[hidden sand]

Not just the movement. The first person animation system as a whole, and we are now left sprint and gun bob animations that look worse than BC2. Which is really unfortunate.

[toxic wigeon]

They were always on the bridge between points lol

[hexed mango]

underrated feature in update 1.2, you can click on the missions here and it brings you to the missions tab 🤯

[toxic wigeon]

Movement is Bfv was amazing

[wide shore]

If you jump from something high, (like the train bridge on Rotterdam), if you pressed the crouch button before you hit the ground your character would roll like mirrors edge. And it would significantly reduce the fall damage. Or sometimes outright remove it.

[hexed mango]

and instead of saying 0:00 and counting negative, it says completed now

[hexed mango]

oooh damn yeah

[fossil talon]

Compared to other games, does the flight controls feel off? Can't tell if it's because I'm newish to PC gaming or if it has standard controls from other battlefields

[hexed mango]

and this is shown on the missions tab now

[toxic wigeon]

To me planes feel bad

[fossil talon]

Helis are fine though, or?

[wide shore]

I don’t think I’ve flown a plane on 2042 since the beta

[hidden sand]

Flight physics in this game are very, very subpar for both Planes and Helis. You'll likely have an easier time in helis though.

[wide shore]

But the helis feel fine to me

[toxic wigeon]

Helis feel fine to me

Planes are just off

And are weak

Compared to the helis

[solar obsidian]

skill issue

[fossil talon]

Thanks, glad I wasn't alone in that feeling haha, takes some getting used to

[hidden sand]

It's unfortunate really but all we can do is get used to it until improvements are made.

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

Idk if next season should be ground vehicle or air vehicle

“Leak” says bomber

But I don’t believe that leak

[solar obsidian]

👀 all them bombs

[hexed mango]

sam said that the vehicle team is working on it, if thats any condolence

[acoustic island]

I wonder if we will ever get new hit indicator sounds, in the beta you could select bf1 but was bugged and meant off

[hidden sand]

I'm not expecting any new vehicles next season, just a few weapons and the map we are getting.

[toxic wigeon]

I don’t mind the hit sounds in this game

Bf games seem to always have good ones

[wide shore]

I just want the fucking AN94 in AOW

That’s all I’m asking

[toxic wigeon]

Prob will happen

[solar obsidian]

i want the desert eagle

[toxic wigeon]

Watch them bring back ww2 guns for season 2 lel

[hidden sand]

But the fact we're getting 1 single map again tells me that "needing to fix the game so not as much content" wasn't entirely the reason.

[rocky kraken]

guys

[hidden sand]

Would be cool.

[rocky kraken]

look at the specialists on ultra settings they look waay better

[hidden sand]

People keep bringing up the age of the weapons but it worked really well in BC2, imo.

[solar obsidian]

ahh so thats why i dont notice something bad

[wide shore]

Shit. I’d use the STG and BAR. They’re damn good in this game

[wide shore]

Almost any weapon would make sense in this universe

[acoustic island]

Maybe because of map reworks but it’s still stupid

[wide shore]

The lore is perfect for it

[toxic wigeon]

True but considering these are military units they wouldn’t be running around with m1 garands lol

[hidden sand]

I just don't believe that everyone is actually all hands on deck for this game like they've claimed.

[solar obsidian]

dont tell console players this

[toxic wigeon]

Civilians maybe

[acoustic island]

I’ve already been told

[wide shore]

Shit I’d be using anything I could get my hands on

[toxic wigeon]

same

[wide shore]

If it’s a BAR then so be it

[toxic wigeon]

Idk much of this games lore Ngl

Never cared to learn it

[hidden sand]

A Museum for a map would be cool.

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[wide shore]

I still think a Favela half flooded would be sick

[hidden sand]

Imagine if it had older weapons on the walls and you could take them down and use them lol.

[wide shore]

Or even a giant mall or something

[wide shore]

I’d be soo fucking for this you have no idea

[toxic wigeon]

While you’re at it they should add mystery boxes and zombies

I do miss weapon kits tho

[acoustic island]

Thunder gun

[toxic wigeon]

Like in bf4

Did 5 have them I can’t remember

I know 1 had the class thing

I’ve only used the vehicle call in thing twice lmao

And ranger once

Or whatever the dog is

[hidden sand]

I actually wanna make a level like this myself now kek. I think I'll try blocking out some ideas in Hammer.

[wide shore]

You could pickup flamethrowers and katanas on BFV

[upper socket]

Think its the ranger

[upper socket]

Sounds fun

[wide shore]

I loved the flamethrower in BFV

And in BF1

[upper socket]

Am i the only guy who never uses the repair tool in 2042

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah forgot

[toxic wigeon]

Good for xp

[wide shore]

I think I have like 500-600 kills with the flamethrower in V

[edgy oriole]

bt south korea is 100% better

[upper socket]

Oh never touched it

[hidden sand]

The flamethrowers on BFV were amazing. I've never seen fire effects look that good in a game before.

[toxic wigeon]

You can sit in vehicle and repair for one of the ribbons

[upper socket]

Ah nice

[copper rock]

I guess you don't play many games then

[toxic wigeon]

I liked the katana

But it had limited use

Basically dead in open ofc

But was satisfying to get a kill

[upper socket]

Wonder if ea will make a channel for direct suggestions(not troll ones)

[copper rock]

I like the platoon feature of BF1.

[copper rock]

EA doesn't take suggestions mate

[upper socket]

Could help 2042 RIP

[copper rock]

I respect your efforts though, but EA never takes suggestions until a youtuber makes a video about it. Unless it's specialist. That will never be removed as it goes against the structure of 2042. 2042 was created around them and their intention was and still is to sell you skins

[toxic wigeon]

EA prob only listens to jackfrags lol

[copper rock]

And the shill Westie

[upper socket]

Lol they didnt care when shroud did it in front of 20k

Doubt it

[fossil talon]

Does flying on controller feel easier, or am I just not used to flying yet on pc lol

[solar obsidian]

both

[copper rock]

They dont respect shroud. As mentioned above, the only ones they seem to care about is westie because they probably sponsor him and jackfrags. They pull their punches constantly

[solar obsidian]

you have it easier because you are used to controller

[edgy oriole]

#948574259209437264 when they open it again, some dice devs come in here on mondays (it seems) and ask questions you can talk to them aswell. and ive heard the forums work too.

[upper socket]

Cool

[upper socket]

And ye

[fossil talon]

ahh fair enough, the controls still feel odd on controller, at least compared to muscles memory from BF3/4

[toxic wigeon]

What’s your guys favorite launch map without the reworks

[wet mortar]

What sort of keyboard you guys use?

[toxic wigeon]

Controller

[wet mortar]

Relax with a controller yeah that’s good

[solar obsidian]

vortex race3

[upper socket]

Hmmmm might be breakaway, hit so many clips from flying off of E1

[wet mortar]

Nice dude that’s exactly what I’m looking for. my last good one was a gift it was a Logitech 515

[fossil talon]

Im rocking the leopold fc980m

[solar obsidian]

the chances of both having these basic old school colors

lovely

[fossil talon]

I actually have the blacked out front printed version, I do admire that retro look though

[solar obsidian]

oooooh

waiting for that ONE cursed player using keyboard to aim with

[upper socket]

Thad be hilarious but imagine using dpad for aim on controller

[solar obsidian]

truly cursed

[upper socket]

How about bumpers for movement

[solar obsidian]

now it sounds like doom ps1

[upper socket]

Oh

[wet mortar]

My steam games are looking at me like ‘what are you doing offline come play’

[solar obsidian]

backlog so big, i would never be able to complete them all

[wet mortar]

Games for ps3 are selling for 50c here. Wheat from the chuff is all that is. I used to spend 400 a month now $2 for a few new aaa each month.

I bought a steam games pack I don’t think I’ll finish most of them. I’m still umming and ahing about if I’ll play guildwars 2

[agile tapir]

Somebody help I just got the game .. I have to keep re-equipping my skin and attachments every game like it won’t save ?

[solar obsidian]

bug right now, you even have a message on the mainpage its not saving

[wet mortar]

It does that In counter strike too maybe no biggy

[agile tapir]

Oh okay thanks I thought it was big cause even what I save my gun and rename it then it changed back.. thanks 🙏🏽

Bug **

They need to fix this asap it’s so annoying

[hexed mango]

they said theyre working on it on twitter

[solar tinsel]

yeah it's on twitter, even on the in-game alert banner. Hopefully a fix will be not too far behind

but ya know what,I gotta say. I played a few rounds and 1.2 felt yet like another good step in the right direction

[hexed mango]

indeed

[solar tinsel]

Aim Assist is definitely more functional and comparative to other similar FPS games

the scopes are definitely better (although I didnt nearly try enough out) but the TV 2x is SO much better

[hexed mango]

nah

its worse

the double size just doesnt feel right for cqc

[solar tinsel]

ah I thought it was not good enough before, as I never really viewed it as a CQC sight, and more of a midrange sight

the blur was so freaking oppressive before, and that is significantly reduced

[hexed mango]

ah i used it on most my smgs and ars

mainly for M5 and PP

but now im using K8

[solar tinsel]

I can see the frustration with the optics obscuring the view though, but I suppose there is no real way around that other than changing the model itself

K8 is the 1.25x with the dovetail right?

[hexed mango]

yeah it just doesnt feel right for the way i use it, i think if they put it just a tiny bit back, not where it was pre-1.2, but not as close as it is now

[hexed mango]

uuuhhhhhhhhh

[solar tinsel]

the green reticle

[next onyx]

k8 is the circle 1.25x sight yeah.

[solar tinsel]

gotcha, cool

[hexed mango]

ye

[solar tinsel]

I dont know why but I always attributed that to the russian weapons so I use it on the russian weapons ha

[next onyx]

I only use the K8 if the Fusion holo on the gun is awful.

Because sometimes for guns like the m5 the dot is larger than it should be.

[solar tinsel]

true

[hexed mango]

i just like the look of the K8

its pretty clean

[solar tinsel]

I've always enjoyed trying to "factionalize" the guns, which is a bit random and means nothing but eh, kind of makes it feel like you're actually fighting for X faction

like the AK for me has the K8 and the Shan 2.5x

[next onyx]

Yeah fair.

[hexed mango]

tbh im not a large fan of the Shan... idk i like the brighter crosshairs

[next onyx]

Fusion holo on SCAR for its better RDS.

[solar tinsel]

I haven't tried the Shan after the update, I bet thats increased in size as well which will be nice

[dapper river]

THANK YOU, finally someone else noticed this. Ever since they updated the reticle from the launch/beta version, on the M5A3 It looks way too fat!

It's fine on the AC-42 though!

[next onyx]

It's also pretty shit on the AK24 I've noticed.

[dapper river]

Yeah I opt for the Russian reflex sight on most guns, even if it wouldn't make "canon" sense lel

[hexed mango]

ive never really used it lol

[tacit saddle]

is 64 v 64 jets only possible?

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908417759682134026/986591966877859850/Screenshot_348.png

It doesn't even look that bad until you have to use it in combat.

Uhhhh the engine can only handle 40 vehicles.

[tacit saddle]

anybody have info on jets only mode??

oh

[next onyx]

20v20 is how far you can push it.

[tacit saddle]

alrighty thank you

[next onyx]

No worries.

[hexed mango]

on M5, should i run BCG or LWG

[solar tinsel]

ha Im pretty sure thats how most people approach it, which is totally sensical. I'm just one of those weirdos haha

[dapper river]

The wuh?

[next onyx]

Honestly both are good. If you don't mind the minor hipfire penalty, Go for the Stubby grip.

[solar tinsel]

I think it goes back to my BF2 roots where literally your weapon choice outright was locked into faction-specific weapons (minus the unlocks)

and I always just gravitated towards that for some silly reason

[next onyx]

Hardline had faction locked weapons.

It was pain.

You could unlock that gun for both factions but it was just. pain.

[dapper river]

Yeah I would love to run the fusion holo on "western" guns like the M5 but the thickness of the dot can make it unusable

[solar tinsel]

Oh no shit really? Ha Hardline and BFV were the only 2 games I passed on (since I started playing)

[hidden sand]

What made you skip on V?

[next onyx]

Criminals got the AKM and the M416 while the police got the M16a3.

[solar tinsel]

Hard to remember, but I think it was a mix of burnout on the historical shooter (I was itching to play a modern setting again), and just other games occupying me at the time

In retrospect I probably should have played it, but I also am not really compelled to go back now either ha

[next onyx]

The irony is that on BF5 it's really easy to set your loadout for each faction.

[hexed mango]

wtf

[solar tinsel]

Portal?

[hidden sand]

Tbh, I always wonder why people bring up the whole "Burnout on historical shooters" when BF hadn't had a historical setting for a mainline game since BFVietnam.

[dapper river]

Too many Mackays

[hexed mango]

yeah im playing rush

[next onyx]

Whew.

Since you're playing Rush, Sundance wouldn't be a bad idea.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah it is a Portal setting that can be set

Is that the Hardcore Rush official playlist?

[next onyx]

The limited specialists is annoying but I don't even mind it if it means others are usable.

[solar tinsel]

Guessing they wanted to prevent duplicates of specialists, which kind of makes sense for a hc experience

[next onyx]

It only becomes annoying when specialists you only use get taken up by everyone.

[hexed mango]

where tho

[next onyx]

I'd actually play Angel more now just to see what his lines is like.

But I also don't care.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, no totally understandable. I don't think it's even BF specific, it's moreso that they were ALL the rage back when I started playing FPS games, like the earlier CoD games, MoH, etc.

[next onyx]

Actually I do need to get those 40 revives.

[dapper river]

I hope not, I was playing last night with friends and I don't think there was a specialist limit, not unless they added it today.

[hidden sand]

Speaking of the new update, input doesn't feel too much better but aim assist isn't as broken as it was before.

[solar tinsel]

In the mode editor, I forget what its called

[solar tinsel]

Yes, it's definitely much better which I was happy to see. I'm guessing this is how they always THOUGHT it would perform

[hexed mango]

Game Mode Details?

[solar tinsel]

yup

"Per Squad Character Limit"

[hexed mango]

OOoh

i thought that was the limit of People per squad

not specialists

[hidden sand]

Yeah that's understandable then.

[hexed mango]

tbh tho that might be a good change to core gameplay, if they limited it..

[solar tinsel]

definitely more of a "me" issue than DICE's choice to go to WWII

I just find that modern/futuristic also gives more opporunities to play with more exciting and experimental gadgets which I always found fun

[next onyx]

I kinda like both eras to be honest. After playing bf5 for so long and using my FG42 it's safe to say it's time for the modern era.

Modernish Era.

[solar tinsel]

ha yeah, it comes and goes. I was very down to try BF1 and enjoyed it, but by the end I was ready to get into something new and modern. It was like historical had a small little resurgence those years between BF and CoD

[next onyx]

They need to do some internal shit to the engine to fix the input.

Yeah.

[solar tinsel]

PC still has mouse input issues?

[hidden sand]

Ironically, DICE have completely failed in this regard. Their modern/mid-future settings have always been underutilized and restrictive because they refuse to fictionalize much past the basic setting.

[next onyx]

I enjoyed using something like my BAR or the Selbstlader 1916.

Oh nah it isn't even just the mouse input.

[solar tinsel]

I dont play on PC but as someone who felt frustrated with the aim assist issue, I'd love to see that resolved for PC players too

[next onyx]

The game has some internal grievances.

Yeah Mouse input is 90% better.

@modest thorn We understand your frustration but this isn't the place to report on cheaters.

[solar tinsel]

greed - there was a lot of potential to create unique concepts, weapons, gadgets - and it really felt like slightly updated existing stuff. Which, ok might make sense "realistically"

but still... would have been cool to see some experimental "prototype" stuff

[next onyx]

Like the Xm8?

Err you know the Xm8, Right?

[solar tinsel]

yeah ha, not so much that specifically but like

outside of the box thinking a little bit

[next onyx]

Yeah true.

[copper fulcrum]

My name used to be XM8

[next onyx]

Battlefield has always done well using experimental weapons in their games.

[copper fulcrum]

well, it used to be seXM8 but the mods didn't like that

[next onyx]

I wonder why.

[solar tinsel]

like, a gun that shoots EMP-charged projectiles or something

[solar obsidian]

why

[solar tinsel]

not saying LASERS or anything haha

but just interesting tech ideas

[next onyx]

Oh yeah definitely I see that. Though the closest we do have are the ST choppers with the EMP dart and Caspers EMP dart.

[hidden sand]

I wish we could get a flamethrower option for the tanks

[solar tinsel]

right

[hidden sand]

That was so much fun in BFV

[next onyx]

I think the ST choppers are definitely something, thematically for that era.

[tranquil turtle]

every time I have died to the bsv-m it's a headshot

why

[solar obsidian]

[solar tinsel]

I think it's been the best imaginative pursuit yet, that and the condor with the flight modes

[solar obsidian]

bsv is still lovely ❤️

[hexed mango]

Way, short barrel or arcom/some muzzle for M5

[modest thorn]

report ? no, i report that guy more than thousand time already but he still there have his fun. just little rant since report useless in this game, sr

[solar tinsel]

thats good to hear. idn't try it tonight, glad to hear it still hangs

[next onyx]

Short barrel with 6ku on the side yes.

Oh yeah definitely, The Osprey is amazing.

[next onyx]

Short barrel, Arcom and 6ku yes.

Always good to have a suppressor.

M5 needs an improvement on its general TTK so short barrel should be used 90% of the time.

[solar tinsel]

ever since I defaulted to the short barrel on the M5, I've been enjoying it more

Its become "SMG in spirit" AR for me

and then when I really need the CQB madness, laser sight and CQB rounds

[next onyx]

What sucks is that without short barrel it has a really bad TTK.

320 MS.

[hexed mango]

I got a vehicle assist of myself

[next onyx]

You'll be beaten by a SCAR at close range...

Short barrel takes it to 272 MS.

Which is very nice yes.

[solar tinsel]

ha: aided in your own destruction?

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I do sometimes lose to SFARs at close range even with an M5 and Im always confused

but it might just be my shit aim

[hidden sand]

M5 feels weird now.

[solar tinsel]

I still think AK-24 is the best in the class so far

it just seems to do everything well minus perhaps CQB. But mid to long it is so versitile

[next onyx]

I'm kinda glad they nerfed close combat on the m5 but they shouldn't have nerfed the Mp9.

Yeah the AK does its job.

[solar tinsel]

agree, I thought the Mp9 was fine

[hidden sand]

Feels like it takes a lot longer to kill, even though I'm not using CQC rounds on it.

[tranquil turtle]

fr

[next onyx]

Ak24's 5HK range extends out to 74 metres which is good.

[hidden sand]

Maybe it was me saying the MP9 was the superior smg

[next onyx]

Who knows.

PBX is fun to use.

[solar tinsel]

It's been my favorite so far!

[tranquil turtle]

pbx is too slow for me

[hidden sand]

Not sure why they nerfed it.

[tranquil turtle]

it's like an m5 without short barrel condensed into an smg

[next onyx]

I feel like the vector should be that submachine gun that's good in close range and nothing beyond it.

[solar tinsel]

I've always kitted the MP9 as my lightweight, hipfire machine, and it always did well

[hidden sand]

Thing is though Way, you're definitely to blame for something at least.

[next onyx]

Huhhh?

[next onyx]

What I do!?

Look I might of gotten Liz to be a thing but nothing beyond that.

[solar obsidian]

i feel judged

[solar tinsel]

for sure. I'd be fine with keeping the damage the way it was up close, but if it meant an even more dramatic penalty for range: be it recoil or dropoff or (gasp) spread.

[arctic grove]

Grama Falk

[next onyx]

It's just weird because all the k30 needed was recoil. Have it uncontrollable, Make it only good in its intended range don't just reduce the damage range.

[solar tinsel]

I've always felt the K30 should be the "Shotgun of SMGs" leaving the other SMGs a chance to hang a bit more in that short to mid range

[next onyx]

Yeah definitely.

[hexed mango]

tf happened here

[next onyx]

The PBX feels like an assault rifle with subsonic/high powered it's kind of funny.

[tranquil turtle]

this shotgun nerf was so unnecessary

[solar tinsel]

I noticed when I joined and had a match that didn't last long, it didnt show a stat. I think they improved highlight stats with this update

[hidden sand]

They nerfed the K30 at CQC range right?

[next onyx]

Only thing limiting the PBX is its muzzle velocity.

[tranquil turtle]

I hit a guy, who was low, mind you, twice at 20m and he's still alive

[solar tinsel]

I noticed I had more relevant and meaningful stats tonight

[next onyx]

Sort of?

It's still a 5HK within 10 metres.

[hexed mango]

i mean improving more like its all the same highlight...

[next onyx]

No longer out to 20.

[solar obsidian]

we need a friday night mode where we have like 500% life

[solar tinsel]

even like "Objectives Captured" which i Never saw before

[next onyx]

Reducing long range damage too.

[solar obsidian]

regen life

[next onyx]

Which is fine but... I wouldn't say that's the right way.

[solar obsidian]

walking terminators

[solar tinsel]

My guess is they reduced the stat pool, to get rid of stuff thats like, laughable

[next onyx]

They nerfed the Mp9 too which is weird. Even though people use it and abuse its 5HK range, It's still weird.

[solar obsidian]

they properly have some data on its overused or overperforms

[solar tinsel]

they must

I always thought it was balanced by it's extremely slow projectile speed

[next onyx]

But honestly looking at its TTK, 266 MS out until 39 metres is actually not that bad.

For the mp9.

Provided you have to fight the velocity but still.

And that's its 5HK range.

[solar tinsel]

yeah the Mp9, if you switch it to semi and try to engage farther

you're like lobbing shells at that point 😆

[next onyx]

Sorry I can't hear you over my SCAR.

[solar tinsel]

haha

although I do sometimes embarass people with the MP9 semi at like 70m and just feel like I trolled

[next onyx]

The SCAR is so fucked but I love it. They need to reduce its 4HK to 50M.

Currently its 4HK sits at 74M.

[solar tinsel]

what sight do you like using for it for ranged combat?

[next onyx]

Which its a bit ridiculous.

Uh I use the fusion holo.

[hidden sand]

Damn Way suggesting a scar nerf.

Neve thought I'd see the day

[next onyx]

I've sort of adjusted my eyes to it so it isn't impossible.

[solar tinsel]

yeah all you PC players I see you doing the longest freaking range with like a 1.25x and 90 FoV 😆

[next onyx]

Believe me as much fun as I am having with it Suika I want it balanced.

On console it was the same haha.

[solar tinsel]

I also have shit eyesight so that might be my problem ha

[next onyx]

But I didn't have ADS FoV on on battlefield 5 and I used 1x to 1.25x sights.

[solar tinsel]

definitely cant hang like I used to

[solar obsidian]

bsv, highpwr extended, extended suppressor ❤️

[hidden sand]

Unga bunga caveman

How did you even do that, I will never know lmao.

[next onyx]

Yeah my eye sight is suffering because of how much time I spend on the screen.

I did play on 100 FoV on bf5.

[solar obsidian]

le fish

[wide shore]

Wayyyyyy

[next onyx]

But because of ADS FoV on 2042, 90 FoV is the best in between able to see at a range and use.

WHAT.

[wide shore]

Hi

[next onyx]

Hi!

[wide shore]

I successfully got my glasses earlier

[next onyx]

Brilliant.

[wide shore]

And I’ve only been able to play Kaleidoscope once

[next onyx]

Did you actually enjoy it?

[wide shore]

Yeah

I thought the changes were quite nice

[hexed mango]

[next onyx]

I did think there'd be some changes round C.

[wide shore]

Aim assist does not feel any bit different at all btw

[next onyx]

Rip.

[solar tinsel]

I also have a hereditary problems too where my retna was weak and I needed laser surgery to make sure it didn't detach 😆 and I have annoying floaters in my eyes

so yeah genetics, sucks 😆

[next onyx]

Yep, Genetics is why I have shit knees.

[hidden sand]

I'm in that phase of not being able to tell if its placebo or not.

[wide shore]

Funny enough, I spend all my time in front of screens. But my astigmatism is actually getting better somehow.

[next onyx]

Battlefield's aim assist has always pushed you gently in the right direction.

[hidden sand]

It doesn't seem that different, but it does feel somewhat different at the same time.

[solar tinsel]

I definitely noticed an improvement. It kicks in more often now when it needs to, at least every time I felt like it should

but it didn't seem aimbotty either

so perhaps they got it right

[wide shore]

I said earlier. Maybe I’m just so used to how shit it’s been that I’ve just become good at aiming without it.

[solar tinsel]

ha seriously

[next onyx]

I feel like a monkey using my feet like hands to get my socks.

[wide shore]

Sounds very Conceded

But shit

[next onyx]

This game is a mess with general input.

[wide shore]

Which is crazy cause BFV was so good

[hidden sand]

I think it's apparent that input will likely never be great for this game.

[next onyx]

They need to revise the engine. Try to find the root of the cause.

[hidden sand]

Anyone else find the dot inside of the crosshair to be slightly annoying?

[next onyx]

Nope.

[hidden sand]

Dunno, I just think it looks a lot better without it.

Feels more precise.

[solar tinsel]

to be honest I never much thought about it, but Im all for customization options

does it appear on all fire mode crosshairs?

[copper fulcrum]

Has anyone touched their HORIZONTAL HUD PADDING yet?

[hexed mango]

nah

[solar tinsel]

ah I meant to do that, not yet

[hexed mango]

i like how mine is

i did touch the opacity thing tho

made it more transparent when aiming

also changed my mic input thanks to the nice new selector for audio (in and out)

[solar tinsel]

I really like the opacity. I just used defaults for now, but a nice QoL

[drowsy shuttle]

lol the stealth chopper is still OP af... theres no much difference.... instead of farming 15 players in 10 seconds or something you farm just 10... jesus christ...

[hexed mango]

indeed it is super nice

plus, i love the new ping markers

[solar tinsel]

haha I had a Huron round and felt similarly. I was destroying folks on Manifest. that said, step in the right direction

[hexed mango]

like when you ping something it has an icon of what you are pinging

[hexed mango]

fr that thing is still op

[solar tinsel]

next step is probably a reduction in maybe radius damage

[hexed mango]

i just think the flares need to either be removed or have a longer cooldown

plus, no flares and then immediate stealth mode...

[drowsy shuttle]

i agree

and splash damage needs to be reduce

[hexed mango]

i was trying to hack + AA this guy, and everytime i hacked him, he flared, and then after the hack wore off, he just went into stealth...

[tame cobalt]

The tracer fire in the background of kaleidoscope actually looks goofy tbh

[hexed mango]

by the time i could hack him again, he had flares, and repeat.

[solar tinsel]

I'm surprised they didnt opt for a different countermeasure outright.

Maybe an ECM Jammer, that has similar functionality (of breaking lock and preventing it for a short time) but give it a much longer cooldown compared to flares

[tame cobalt]

The concept is good but the execution looks weird... Like the birds

[solar tinsel]

So I haven't played Magic the Gathering in quite some time, but I have been having fun with this AI Card generator. I made a "Battlefield 2042" card for shits and giggles, and this was the flavor text the AI made:

[hexed mango]

i first thought it was like a light show lmao

then i realized it wasnt

[tame cobalt]

Ye

[solar tinsel]

"Be careful what you wish for, the future is as fragile as broken dreams."

if that isn't the most fucking spot on flavor text for BF2042

[agile tapir]

Can you text chat on here or is it only pc I just seen a guy say “nice flying dip shyt” 😂😭😭

[hexed mango]

tbh its a bit distracting, i kinda wish i could actually use the stationary gun ingame

[solar tinsel]

Cant believe 2042 doesnt have any

[agile tapir]

I’m on ps4

[solar tinsel]

minus the portals

[solar tinsel]

you can text chat on console

When the pause menu is up, default bind is R2

[hexed mango]

fr

stationary guns should be added.

[solar tinsel]

again, potential for creative ideas!

[hexed mango]

a laser!

;)

[solar tinsel]

Make like a railgun that charges up and obliterates vehicles

[hexed mango]

yesss

[solar tinsel]

give it a scary as fuck sound or something

[hexed mango]

indeed

[solar tinsel]

and then I can also get behind a stationary mortar or something that fires a bunch of low damage scatter grenades over an area

to fend off a potential attack, but you're exposed to snipers

[drowsy shuttle]

irish trophy system now eliminates C5 too... thats a big buff

[solar tinsel]

oh shit

thats huge

Im all for giving Irish more love

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah... i test earlier on exposure

*tested

[hexed mango]

holy shit really

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah

[tame cobalt]

Dice gave mackay depression to make him talk less 💀

[hexed mango]

lmao

[solar tinsel]

I had a feeling the actual in-game renders wouldn't amount to much. The icons are nicer, for sure, but the in-game goofiness in my opinion is less about the models and more about the animations and VO lines

[hexed mango]

indeed

i think its a nice change, but tbh more is needed

[solar tinsel]

Big Mack makes some goofy ass faces sometimes haha

[tame cobalt]

The model changes do look like improvements tho ngl

[solar tinsel]

oh for sure

I'll take it

[hexed mango]

however! I and gooey noticed that the dirt and stuff on characters and guns got an improvement

for example, mud on your character
and, shininess of some guns like the M44

[solar tinsel]

Did they also add a new audio stinger when capturing points in CQ?

[solar obsidian]

add the bfg-9000

[solar tinsel]

I know there's always been an audio cue SFX for this, but it felt more like a music-track stinger this time

[hexed mango]

audio stinger?

[tame cobalt]

Mackay looks less like woody, falck looks less like a lost grandma, boris looks more like a chad, and angel looks like he works out sometimes

[hexed mango]

there is a new sfx when capturing and when an objective goes from capturing to being neutralized

[solar tinsel]

yeah that plays the BF cadence, lemme see if I can find a video

[tame cobalt]

New mackay voiceline: “I’ve already had five cups of coffee… but who cares, what’s the point in life anyway?”

[drowsy shuttle]

now my question is.. can you put an irish sentinel on a vehicle? probably not... cause that would be too powerful...

[hexed mango]

"I've climbed everest, and my mental state has been downhill from there"

[tame cobalt]

💀

[drowsy shuttle]

medic crates can resupply med pens... thats nice

[hexed mango]

nice

[solar tinsel]

I cant find a good clip, but I swear I heard a new music cue on point cap

[next onyx]

Angel looks and sounds like a proper Romanian.

Well. 90% there.

[hexed mango]

thats what i said

[next onyx]

I'm quoting what Wilde said ok!

[hexed mango]

ok...........

[drowsy shuttle]

but is it me or in those previews pictures he has more beard (thicker) than in the actual game?

[acoustic island]

Yeah and he also had dark circles under his eyes

[next onyx]

Concept art?

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah

[hidden sand]

Angels Romanian voice sounds like a different VA tbh.

[next onyx]

He's closer to that yes. Maybe it's thicket because of the render.

[hidden sand]

I don't think it is but damn he sounds different.

[next onyx]

Honestly he sounds more croaky.

[drowsy shuttle]

in the game his beard looks like he has pubes on his tache lol

[austere stone]

Hey guys. Can i link more than one PSN accounts to my Origin acc?

[hexed mango]

no

[next onyx]

I hope they bring back these expressions. They can do them without a voice over.

[austere stone]

k thanks

[solar obsidian]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[hidden sand]

Rare Way L

[austere stone]

he looks so happy

[next onyx]

Full of life.

This one is good too.

[solar obsidian]

come at me bro

[solar tinsel]

dang well done

[hexed mango]

Skate. has playtesting rn if anyone cares

[austere stone]

one more question. Does bf coins transfer from BFV to 2042 like in CoD?

[next onyx]

No.

[hexed mango]

wtf why would it

[austere stone]

ah that sucks

[hidden sand]

Have you gotten a 100 game yet, Way?

[wide shore]

Y’all noticed that they actually highlight useful stuff now?

[solar tinsel]

yup

[next onyx]

A hundy bomb? Yes.

[solar tinsel]

I think they reduced the pool a bunch

[next onyx]

They're a bit rare and i keep choking.

[solar tinsel]

and whats left is the most substantive stuff

[wide shore]

Definitely. So much better

[hidden sand]

Whats your highest so far?

[solar tinsel]

they added even stuff like objectives captured

[next onyx]

But I'll take what I can get.

Uh.

[austere stone]

i mean its seems logical to me

[solar tinsel]

Kills, Kills with XYZ, Objectives Captured, etc. primary stats thankfully

not stuff like "Throwables thrown!"

[hexed mango]

nope

[wide shore]

Way we still need to play man. I know I’d be on that 200 ping but it would still be fun

[austere stone]

in cod franchise in-game currency transfers from one game to another

[next onyx]

I can't remember but i know it's 100 something plus.

I stop counting past 100.

Yeah thing is about bf5 is that you can grind them from free.

[hexed mango]

is this cod?

[next onyx]

Which caused issues.

[drowsy shuttle]

EA would rather destroy their own company before they do that

[wide shore]

I’ve only dropped a hundo bomb a few months before 2042 came out on Battlefield 3 of all games. On Xbox of all places.

[next onyx]

I don't mind coin that can transfer. Issue with this is that you can grind it out on bf5 and as such ea gets no money. I'm not defending ea I'm just speaking from a business standpoint.

[wide shore]

It was a 1000 tick server on Seine.

[next onyx]

Seine crossing whew.

[austere stone]

it doesent matter. Just seems pretty anticonsumer to me

just ea things i guess

[next onyx]

@austere stone

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bni5U.gif

[next onyx]

You can battlefield coin for free on 5.

[wide shore]

Boins*

[arctic grove]

E E E EEEEE

[wide shore]

[next onyx]

And from a business standpoint that is horrible if you could transfer it to a new title.

[drowsy shuttle]

i can hear the sound on this gif

[next onyx]

Cause why pay for battlefield coin when you grind it?

[wide shore]

The way I see it. It’s a different game. So ofc it’ll have different currency.

[arctic grove]

NASCAR nostalgia

[hidden sand]

Does the xp requirement for leveling up decrease past 100 in BFV?

I swear I level up so much quicker now.

[wide shore]

I think it goes faster after 50 tbh

[next onyx]

Nah it increases by uh...

[wide shore]

Didn’t BFV have a rank 50 cap at launch?

[next onyx]

Something.

Yes.

[keen loom]

Getting there with Paik

[drowsy shuttle]

yes

[hidden sand]

Always weird that was

[next onyx]

300K per rank on 470+.

[wide shore]

I know in BF1 once you reach 100 I think it goes down

[drowsy shuttle]

i think its going to be my next specialist that i will bring to tier 1 (im currently doing it on angel)

[solar tinsel]

nice, only Spec. I've bothered to T1 is Rao

[hidden sand]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[keen loom]

I’m not sure which one I should do next

[hexed mango]

mc daddy

[next onyx]

I dunno how I did it.

[agile tapir]

What are these red badges on peoples player cards how do you get it?

[keen loom]

I like Casper but I don’t use grapple much

[hexed mango]

2016 was over half a decade ago

[next onyx]

Though I barely remember hitting rank 500 on that night because I got drunk and so i passed out.

That was a grind.

And I earned it.

[wide shore]

My man’s talking about 400/500

[drowsy shuttle]

i did mackay and sundance (mackay is probably the easiest one, and sundance because its my favourite specialist)

[solar tinsel]

Those are Tier 1 badges @agile tapir

[keen loom]

I’ll try out McKay

[hidden sand]

Who is that woman btw, Poetic?

[solar tinsel]

you get them by using one particular thing a bunch and progressing it

[agile tapir]

What is that how do I get it?

[wide shore]

Emily Rudd

[solar tinsel]

Just use one thing (spec, weapon, vehicle, gadget) a lot. Each has its own tracker

you can follow them under the Customize Player Card page

[wide shore]

[silent flint]

anyone else just get stuck on the loading screen when they open the game and cant play?

[keen loom]

[wide shore]

Got that Rey Mysterio KD

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah its pretty easy... getting kills from above or higher ground (don't recall if assists also counts, but i don't think so)

[hidden sand]

6.19 kd

[wide shore]

Wait a second

[next onyx]

It's a 5 infantry K/D. Planes pushed it to 6.

[keen loom]

Nice I’ll try him out after I finish Paik

[wide shore]

158 killstreak wtf

How

[hidden sand]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-kiryu-gif-25261393

[next onyx]

Yeah i bullied people on a Sherman on Provence attack.

[wide shore]

[next onyx]

When the tanks were gone and at guns were gone i sat in the middle of the hill abusing frankfurters.

[wide shore]

Here I was thinking my Light Tank on Suez 47-0 on BF1 was impressive.

[next onyx]

I actually didn't realise my killstreak was that high until midway.

To be fair. That's pretty good!

[wide shore]

Somehow my highest is also 47 on BFV

I don’t even remember the match

[drowsy shuttle]

on a console... thats even more impressive

[wide shore]

Way looks like a PC player on the sticks

[next onyx]

Eh it's console. Doesn't really matter much on an equal field.

[next onyx]

I can find an old ass clip.

[hidden sand]

Rip

[next onyx]

Hey it's something!

[tame cobalt]

Hyped for season 2 map, gonna be a compact map with lots of cover

[solar tinsel]

Is that Yakuza? I've never played any of them but Im going to try Like a Dragon because its free this month on PSN and I keep hearing good things about it over and over

[wide shore]

27 still good enough for a tactical nuke.

[tame cobalt]

People thinking 3 map reworks in season 2 are snorting too much copium and setting themselves up for more disappointment

[hidden sand]

It is, It's a really great series

[next onyx]

For those who are curious how i play on console.

[hidden sand]

I'd recommend trying more of thrm out if you like like a Dragon

[drowsy shuttle]

no way 3 maps... we will get only 1 and in mid season

[solar tinsel]

Like I said, never played before, never would have crossed my mind. But recently various podcasts I've listened to have constantly mentioned it, and with it being free Im like shit

gotta try it now ha

[tame cobalt]

Yeah... Then maybe 2 in season 3 or something

[wide shore]

I knew it would be an FG42 clip

[next onyx]

Cause why not!

[wide shore]

Tho tbh I used that gun with the AA sights. I didn’t like that red dot

I liked the Nydar. But that gun didn’t have that sight

[drowsy shuttle]

i still doubt they will rework all maps... apparently the devs said hourglass overall is a bad map, but its so huge that it will take a long time to fix it... im assuming the same for breakaway... i think they went to kaleidoscope first cause was the smallest and easiest one...

[solar tinsel]

Definitely nothing has indicated that the pace of Season 2 will be any more aggressive than Season 1. I do believe it will be one new map, and one reworked map mid-season like this season. The only added benefit is we should also see Portal weapons added by then

[solar tinsel]

yeah, and to be honest I dont even think all maps NEED to be reworked. If they can just improve a handful to raise the overall bar of the base maps that will help

EVERY battlefield has had its share of bad vanilla maps

[tropic estuary]

looking for a squad

[solar tinsel]

even my beloved BF2 cough Zatar Wetlands

[wide shore]

My beloved BF1. cough Suez

[next onyx]

Suez wasn't completely awful!

[wide shore]

Only thing Suez had going for it was the badass destruction

Otherwise I hated it

You would NEVER catch me playing Oil of Empires. Cause I hate Suez and I hated Fao Fortress

[solar tinsel]

ha I thought Suez was fine. Not best, but not worst either

[drowsy shuttle]

thats a nice clip. no crossplay also helps :p but was nice nonetheless... some people have talent to play with controller

[next onyx]

Fao fortress on breakthrough wasn't bad.

[wide shore]

It was just super open. And with the big hill on the left side it was sniper paradise.

[drowsy shuttle]

also, aim is important, but positioning in bf might be even more important

[next onyx]

Against pc it's going to be an unfair ground. If it's just xbox and PS that's fine.

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah

[solar tinsel]

Ive been saying this since forever haha

[wide shore]

I’m surprised I’ve managed to keep the stats I have on 2042 against PC players

They’re only a bit worse than my BFV stats

[next onyx]

I only kept getting farmed by vehicle players , it's why my 2042 stats pale in comparison.

[wide shore]

Mines cause vehicles. But also dogshit aim assist

[hidden sand]

Skill issue

[next onyx]

I only moved to pc because I had the game.

[solar obsidian]

but you can use mouse and keyboard on consoles?

[next onyx]

Eeeeee.

[solar tinsel]

My KD keeps going down each game haha

[wide shore]

Not on BF2042

[next onyx]

No. I don't use mouse and keyboard on console.

[solar obsidian]

damn dice really fucked them over

[solar tinsel]

yeah 2042 doesnt support M&KB on consoles - odd considering its a crossplat game, they probably should have ha

[wide shore]

I mean if you get like a Cronus or whatever. Yeah

[solar obsidian]

players with xim are going to dominate

[tropic estuary]

looking to play with a squad

[solar obsidian]

yeah

[drowsy shuttle]

but you can use controller on PC.. at least in cod lot of players do that... but then again, aim assist in cod is OP af...

[solar tinsel]

the aim assist improvement at least is welcome. It works more like a normal console game now

[wide shore]

Yes and aim assist in this game sucks.

[solar obsidian]

i left consoles because mouse and keyboard adapters went and became a normal thing

[wide shore]

I can’t even fathom why any PC player would be like “yeah I wanna use a controller. I hate killing people who can’t aim”

[drowsy shuttle]

put a controller in my hands and i look like an old lady driving a ferrari.

[solar obsidian]

in the end, battlefield is a casual shooter to have fun and epic moments in,

i rather have cross play

[next onyx]

While i prefer console. I may as well play 2042 on pc because I have it there.

[wide shore]

Make me play on M+KB I look like a kotaku reviewer.

[hidden sand]

I use a controller on PC quite frequently, because I'm still not entirely used to M&KB.

[drowsy shuttle]

thats fair

[wide shore]

I use a controller when I play Minecraft on my computer.

[hidden sand]

On BF1 and V mostly though, as 2042 can be wonky on my PC.

[next onyx]

I'm getting more used to mouse and keyboard.

It's alright but it can be pain at times.

[hidden sand]

How do you have your sens set up, Way?

[drowsy shuttle]

I think at least for sniping, nothing its better.

[wide shore]

I just like being lazy when I play games. My hands get so tired using KB+M.

[hidden sand]

Ironically M&KB is pretty useful for me because it relies on you using your shoulder. Which has also benefited my linework in drawing kek.

[drowsy shuttle]

but i think for moviment and running around, controller is better than M&K... thats why for example in GTA or RDR2 i use controller to driving/riding/running and the second i need to use a weapon i put my hands on M&K

[wide shore]

Driving will always be better on a controller. Unless you got like a wheel and shit

[next onyx]

1600 dpi on 35.8 in game sens.

75 sens is the sweet spot for me.

[drowsy shuttle]

100%

[hidden sand]

What's your 360 distance?

[solar obsidian]

this

[next onyx]

I think the actual numbers is 4 cm or something along the lines for a 360.

[solar obsidian]

jesus actually fuck

[hidden sand]

What the tfuck

[drowsy shuttle]

holy shit... thats too fast.. i use 800 dpi with 5 sense in game lol

[wide shore]

[next onyx]

Current 360/cm - 4.2445

Mmh is it really that fast?

[hexed mango]

i play on the middle ground of 800dpi and 30ingame

[drowsy shuttle]

for me at least

[wide shore]

I use 20 sensitivity on console

[solar obsidian]

25-35cm/360 is average we recommend in most games

[solar tinsel]

I really hope 2042 goes F2P one day just so I can toy around with it on PC and MKB

[hexed mango]

"we" 👀

[solar obsidian]

us that are king at shooters

[solar tinsel]

it wouldnt become my primary platform, but I'd love to goof around with it ha

[next onyx]

On bf5 I go 75 sens.

And this equivalent is no different.

[drowsy shuttle]

but im old school sniper from CS 1.6 and COD 2 so back in the day we used really lower sense to have a better "control" and "grip" of the scope and all that... so i guess im too used to lower senses

[wide shore]

As a console boi. I like my shit lowwww

[next onyx]

I need fast.

[hidden sand]

How much mouse room do you have Way lmao

[wide shore]

Slow look speed. Even slower ADS look speed

[hexed mango]

theres an option ingame to modify sense for snipers and other guns when adsing

[hidden sand]

Because holy shit 4 cms

[solar tinsel]

yeah Im a low sens player too. I forgot my values, but its definitely on the lower end

[drowsy shuttle]

for scopes you mean? yeah i know

[hexed mango]

yeah for ADS

[hidden sand]

I use 100 sens with I think 75 ADS sens

On console, I mean

[next onyx]

Lots.

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i tweak all that... (actually still tweaking and changing... haven't found that sweet spot yet... the mouse input problems the game has doesn't help either)

[next onyx]

@hidden sand

[hidden sand]

Mfer got a football stadiums worth of mouse room and uses 4cms of it

[wide shore]

I use 20 for look speed. Idr my ads speed

[next onyx]

My ads speed isn't 1:1 with my Freelook speed.

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I think Im in the same ballpark 20, maybe 25

[next onyx]

So I need to fix that.

[hidden sand]

Nice setup though, way

[solar obsidian]

take a ruler, lower your sens in hipfire to around 25cm and start from there

[next onyx]

Thanks! It's comfy!

Hmm..

[drowsy shuttle]

that gaming chair gives you 30 more kills per game.

im just teasing you

[solar obsidian]

you make big movements with arm

[next onyx]

I don't need things to be slow cause I can manage it. Im kinda used to being fast.

Yeah I need to get into the habit with my arm..

[hidden sand]

That's what she said

[next onyx]

I use my wrist since I'm new.

Shut the fuck up

[solar obsidian]

you will be more consistent with your aiming when you lower the sens

[next onyx]

When I get into the habit I will then consider.

[solar obsidian]

fast flicks will become a normal thing to do,

you mostly stop thinking where the aim is, while aiming

[drowsy shuttle]

if he is used to faster sense, he can't get used to lower... and some people can really manage it with higher and faster sense... how they do it? still blows my mind... but i guess its a matter of habit...

[hidden sand]

My setup is a bit weird, because my main monitor is a drawing display. So the rest of it is based around that.

[solar obsidian]

i was used to insanely fast sens back when i played my first couple of years pc

now im at around 30-35cm

even tried slower for a while to try it out

[wide shore]

My entertainment center is an absolute mess

[solar obsidian]

if you know old school mousepads there where like 15x15cm

thats what i learned fps games on, until i got better equipment

[wide shore]

Big epic gamer setup

[hidden sand]

The tiny keyboard

[wide shore]

I use it for Minecraft stuff. And talking shit in chat

[hidden sand]

Based

[solar obsidian]

me sitting at a desk in front of 65" tv

[drowsy shuttle]

btw there is a post on reddit about how the controller sensitivity is linked to mouse sensitivity... they even put a clip showing it... damn..

[next onyx]

Comfort!

[drowsy shuttle]

in bf 2042 btw

[hidden sand]

I was astounded when I saw that. I genuinely do not understand how that even happened.

[wide shore]

I realize you can’t even see the consoles cause it’s so dark. Lol

[next onyx]

I grew up with games like doom but never really had to consider vertical aiming.

[solar obsidian]

doom did not have vertical aiming

[next onyx]

Serious Sam as well being an easy game not requiring much thought.

[drowsy shuttle]

i knew that was a thing when the game was launched... but i honestly thought they had fixed it meanwhile...

[next onyx]

I thought I said "so" instead of but.

[solar obsidian]

😄

[next onyx]

Oh well.

[drowsy shuttle]

that explains why sometimes when i ads my sense goes off the charts... gets really fast during some CQ fights...

[hidden sand]

Btw Way, your ads sens could be fucked by that.

[wide shore]

Also, I’ve noted that Series X performance has been very good after last patch. I haven’t noticed any of the drops I usually get on Hourglass & Manifest. And I played manifest 3 times today.

[next onyx]

Probably.

Yeah they've improved performance across the board it seems.

[hidden sand]

I was getting 60fps on ps4 on a few occasions.

[next onyx]

2042 maps require more resources so it's expected.

[drowsy shuttle]

after each update i always feel the game runs and performs better in the first 2 weeks more or less.. then i feel like it slowly starts to perform worse... its weird... maybe its some kind of "placebo" effect..

[next onyx]

Arica harbour requires the least.

[wide shore]

It’s been what, 8 months? My game would literally tank to 0 fps multiple times when the storms came in on Manifest & Hourglass.

So I’m glad it finally seems to be gone

[hidden sand]

Im really curious on why level designing has been clearly so bad for them on this game in particular.

[solar obsidian]

rushed development

[wide shore]

Double the playerbase. Not a lot of time

[solar tinsel]

ALlow my obsession with AI to help answer this for you

[wide shore]

It’s a huge step, and could be done right. But they didn’t seem to have the time.

[hidden sand]

I meant in-editor, because some of these changes are taking so long that it's genuinely confusing.

[solar tinsel]

The level design in Battlefield 2042 is so bad because they removed the ability to choose one of three difficulty levels for your mission from a helicopter. The level designers were too lazy to create new levels in a higher difficulty mode, so they would create a new mission, go to the mission briefing, and get hit with an FNG: Fight (Freedom of Movement) or No Glory (Lack of Safety).

There you go, the AI has answered, it's clear

[hidden sand]

You would be shocked at just how quickly level design can go when you have the assets ready, which they did. Which is why I'm particularly confused on the lengths of these things.

[worn lantern]

bro my game performance after the update has doubled

[next onyx]

The game was rushed. It's why it is what it is.

What are your specs, Kai?

[copper fulcrum]

Let's take this to the gaming compound.

[next onyx]

The maps were rushed it's why they're fucking garbage for the most part.

[worn lantern]

it was weird cause i went from 80 fps max graphics then after 1.1 it went to 40 and now it's at 100 after 1.2

[hidden sand]

I'm not really talking about that aspect of it though.

[copper fulcrum]

ngl, I prefer these maps over the BF1 and BF4 maps still

Kaleidoscope over fucking Fao Fortress pls

[drowsy shuttle]

Imo, and this is my perspective, i can be wrong. Season 2 is going to be more important than season 1... i think like, they couldnt be wrong with season 1... after the launch, they couldn't go wrong with season 1... ofc people expected more content.. but was a fresh thing, better performance, QoL improviments, bug fixes, some weapons, introducing of BP etc etc... so lot of players came back and even some new ones..... so now they really need to come with a blast in season 2... if they come with a similar stuff of season 1... that wont bring people that already quit or new players... they really need to bring an impactful content and some fresh stuff... its stale or going up.

[worn lantern]

2070 super

and 9th gen i7

[wide shore]

Well, watching this video they released today. A lot of the Kaleidoscope changes had to be made at expense of other stuff. Like they couldn’t just add new stuff and call it a day because of optimization.

[wide shore]

I prefer them over BF4. But definitely not BF1

St Quentin & Amiens>Every map in this game

[hidden sand]

St Quentin murders and pisses on the graves of every 2042 map

[wide shore]

St Quentin is my fav BF map ever. It’s just perfect.

[hidden sand]

St Quentin is probably the closest recent DICE have gotten to a perfect map

[next onyx]

Bf5 maps over 2042 maps.

[worn lantern]

2142 over 2042 ms

[wide shore]

Depends on the map

[worn lantern]

maps

[bitter skiff]

San Quentin?

[white geyser]

Bring 2142 in the portal

[bitter skiff]

Im Johnny CAsh