#battlefield-2042
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Do battlepass challenges get completed in portal mode
The base maps structures look very flat except exposure
I think Valparaiso looks better than caspian but that's just me.
only in servers with full progression, I believe
I dunno. Valparaiso is just more dense.
is that the same as full xp?
Caspian is nice but yes.
if the server has "full xp" in the info then yeah
The exodus maps play and feel like BF the new maps besides exodus feel like a new foreign game I haven't put my finger on. Lol
Mackay new look looking good 
so are all the new voice lines in the game?
Funny to me that what's saved thr game for me is that I can play maps from older BF games
JTF helmet + mamba uniform looks fire
The weekly missions design is great, doesn't feel tedious, most of them are just shit you're probably already doing, and the "kill X amount of players with Y type of gun" ones don't require very many kills at all. I think the absolute "hardest" mission so far has been "get 3 headshots in one life". Not too hard! 
Agreed hasn't been too bad
battlefield
Is there any metrics ans #s on how many players play on AOW Vs Exodus?
Why is it rare to find some teamwork
Not any that are public lol
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Hovering around 80 on medhigh 128
After update
Not much performance difference
Depressing
ah rip
Conquest 128 ranking
- Exposure/Orbital/manifest
- Kaleidoscope 1.0/renewal/discarded
- Breakaway
Too shit to rank: Hour-ass
I noticed mud and dirt now properly covers the player based on what they do.
All they gotta do now is fix hourglass
Ay haven't seen u in a while
- Exodus maps
2.your list lol
sup
how you doing?
Man hourglass would be great if they cut the desert between A and E.
I've been spam F5ing Temproyals Twitter page waiting for him to have found something new in the 1.2 patch.
Add more buildings we can scale with ropes or ascend through the stairs with flags in there
Hourglass with more buildings will look beautiful during the sandstorm
If DICE was willing to drastically overhaul Hourglass, I would like to see the entire stadium moved into the map. And the cities pulled in to fill up that open space of sand. So we could have more city combat
That would be so good
Verdansk but sand 
LORD YES, and add the stadium as an actual combat point in Breakthrough. It's a fantastic part of the map that you'd never know existed if you only played BT (honestly maps should have reversible layouts for BT)
I'd say move the Stadium to somewhere between B and D
And add a small-scale city where A is
like 2-3 skyscrapers
and add a ferris wheel, like in the concept art
Also add extra tank and aircraft debris around the map
I have a love hate relationship with Hourglass. From a gameplay perspective it can be insufferable at times... But holy shit does that sandstorm cloud sweeping the map look absolutely epic.
this is implied that it's another battle
since the first battle was in hazard zone
so it would make sense to have destroyed tanks and planes scattered around the map
I would love if they made hourglass look exactly like the concept art
Not sure why they didnt
Also make the sandstorm last for longer
And y'know since a lot of the map has been condensed and more city buildings, maybe open up a floor or two at like the halfway points of buildings
yes
I think what could be cool is if one building collapsed into another building, knocking both down
Probably because of good old time
hourglass without the sandstorm looks shit
When the lights go off, it's pretty damn close. I love the red lighting and the colorful scyscrapers.
that's just me
guns are resetting โฆ every game. I get ak .. bug after bug
Actually it's supposed to be like that
They have it this way while they solve PS5 issues
why did people expect better performance
I mean every patch up until now has done at least a little to improve the performance of the game
i think everyone is waiting until 2042 is no longer GPU bound
which would be cool
It would also be cool if i could get a solid 60 on 1080p low
And Iโm not gpu bound
Every update has had some kind of performance improvement.
because of patch 
cpu bound
I meant that sorry
nothing about performance was mentioned in the patch tho
what cpu and gpu do you have
it's CPU bound I think 
4790k and a 1060
yeah i checked. clown moment
i'm not very PC literate
dont expect much from ps3 tier specs
I need to upgrade my graphics card soon.
Ok
He said he's too busy to look for s2 leaks
Yeah
ps3 players be like "but it could run BF3 tho"
30fps cap, with dips below that far too often, plus screen tearing out the ass, max 24 players
i havent been able to play since
A) in college
B) brother plays on xbox so i cant use remote play
C) got a math exam tomorrow
This isn't the rework. This is just the visual overhaul. The rework is in season 2
technically it is a rework
feel? it's just visual updates, more beards, dirt, and wrinkles for everyone
They made Faulk 15 years younger
i'll take more roughed up looking rather than that fucking Toy Story 1 Mackay
How does Mackay look with JTF Vet
She still Grama Falk
Did they? I thought they just added some dirt/wrinkles. Either way, my girl needs a beard to match the rest of those specialists and their groomed facial hair.
grandma falck but instead of being 80 she's now 55
Buzz lightyear Sundance when?
Her hair isnt grey anymore tis now a nice brunette color
LMAO soo true
Paik looks the same to me 
Yoooo they turned Mackay into Heisenberg
Also Falk doesnt work for the Empire anymore. She is now a Note Pad.
is he the danger now?
No-Pants
No a MAGA truck driver
angel no-pants ๐ฆ
Looks more salt'n'pepper to me, which is still fine. She spends some time between fighting getting her hair colored, she deserves to treat herself.
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isn't he canadian
Yes
nope he looks far more like walter white than any MAGA looking guy
Fair
remove the glasses and you have Mackay
What were the visual changes for Sundance/Paik even? Sundance's hair is less floofy and they have another nose piercing and Paik uh...looks a bit less like she was stung in the face by a bee?
I think Sundance has tattoos now also
no matter how many times i reincarnate im still not ginger
Paik let her hair down
can't tell if that's a tatoo, dirt, or a shadow on the neck but not sure it matters either way since we're not often seeing specialists necks in much detail : |
Kaleidoscope is good now, that is all
Next generation of necks
But Exposure is still king
the most active areas of kaleidoscope are barely changed
I stand by this comparison:
oh fuck
sexy ass mackay
but that fountain walkway between E and F
THANK GOD
Oh my god i hated that part of the map
it was a gauntlet
see how long you can make it
really happy they gave those fountains some depth
Mackay pre-1.2:
"well well well, that was fun!"
Mackay post-1.2:
"..."
Itโs because he hasnโt had his 4 cups of coffee
i will break your fucking kneecaps and piss on your dads grave
imagine not beeing T1 and using T1 skin
he now looks like he could slaughter a village without giving a single fuck now
redesigned map and people still dont know how to defend it in BT
that's who he is now
any mackay skin is amazing
all the bitching about refunds broke him
he is the only one I have with T1 that I dont use T1 skin with.
JTF helmet
Finally listening to this-- feeling good about my Rao usage now ๐
So.how is the last Gen update
I haven't been able to play kaleidoscope all day
Deathless skin
find some in portal or play solo
so the featured modes for portal haven't changed since yesterday, right?
no those change on thursday
Good, can test the AA buffs in that superiority mode 
oh no
so much for this update bringing people back i guess, lower numbers than ever
honestly tho
not even close
its at 5k+
on steam
2042 has 5k players rn
on steam
due to players not able to connect to online services
lowest was <1k
and that doesnt include origin, ps, and xbox
i didn't expect this update to release on August 2nd lol
whoa, a whole 5k
I mean we could go back to the 2k in April on steam
oh this topic 
better than halo infinite 
I can read
this is all that matters
I'm just passing some time in here while I wait on this lobby to fill up. Been a few minutes ๐
Also why are you coming here to be like that bro
funny to hear numbers. as I ( Norway ) finds full or games with less then 5 AI at all hours
God i fuckin hate 343 and what they did for halo infinite
polished
Yes lol. 2042 majority of players comes from console lol
it just released lawl, plus people have work and school
Ruining the vibe
SAME
seems like the 10k players are all in eu then ๐
oh sweet, we have enough players to start. i mean there's 40 AI in the server but still
the multiplayer is a complete travesty
@grizzled whale what did i missed
a whole lot of shots probably
Nobody won the FPS war last year. Everyone lost.
Ah well then
Yeah I hang around a few halo circles, the vibe isnt great, people are demoralized
We rolled up our sleeves and stuck with the game leeessgo
Infinite needs the forge
In Vorkuta we are all winners my friend
what SIX MONTH SEASONS does to a mf 
fucking great
343 needs to realize that infinite exists
you wont get banned unless you abuse glitches
STEP 1: SECURE THE KEYS!
cuz im pretty sure its been running since April
343 needs to realize us gamers are not taking their bullshit
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP ANGEL SAY IT
STEP 2: ASCEND FROM DARKNESS
Me on the rooftop point of kaliedoscope before they changed the layout: 
STEP 3
RAIN FIRE
STEP 4
UNLEASH THE HORDE
STEP 5
SKEWER THE WINGED BEAST
so what do you guys think Season 2 will have besides the renewal rework
STEP 6
WIELD THE FIST OF IRON
Fun fact: the steps of vorkuta are the same name of the steps for the origins zombies Easter egg
STEP 7
nothing lol
RAISE HELL
that was opertunity lost. Ppl where just fing bad at that time. We had the Hinds and condors at that time too.
STEP 8
1 other map rework, 2 guns (hopefully no meme guns), 1 new map, some kinda gadget that won't get much use, and probably another helicopter that's hilariously unbalanced
I mean I guess it had to end lol nevermind lol
FREEDOM
A new AOW map, new season pass, uh
i think AoW deserves 2 maps with season 2
theres no reznov jumping gif on discord
For you, Mason
new stealth helicopter in S2 will be literally invisible, you'll have to shoot the pilot/passengers out of the sky as they're floating about
Drained and Lights Out
NOT FOR ME
reznov: fucking dies
and lights out was another leaked map
Wonder Woman already has an invisible plane
could be a prison
Petition for dawnbreaker v2 for season 2
OH SHIT, BATTLEFIELD 2042 X DC UNIVERSE CROSSOVER!
REZNOV
YES
anyone know if the next BF is going to be a mainline game like V, 1, 4, etc.?
Give kaleidoscope, orbital, and hourglass a night version
Mackay is clearly Batman.
the last petition went sooooo good for crying men here ๐
i dont like these spinoff games as much
Rip Morbius
Sundance as Wonder woman. (she's inclusive)
batman couldnt beat mackay in a straight fight
holy shit AI jets actually shoot people on the ground
i have an idea for a levolution event for kaleidoscope
Dude played the update to death
a blackout
Jake Gyllenhaal *
Somewhere on the map is a power station
shut the fuck up perinoid
No, Mackay is Batman. He's got a grappling hook on his utility belt.
it can be destroyed
We need Ezra Miller as Flash
Who?
nah
and when it is destroyed, all elevators, automatic doors, and bridges are stuck in place
mackay is infinitely more powerful than batman
good news, after 15 minutes, the server is up to 54v54
even with 100 years preptime
Batman is the specialist system itself
idk man, batman took a whole shotgun to the chest and lived
He has all those gadgets
can't do that in 2042
@grizzled whale you have no idea how many times i played Vorkuta
My friend, I have already been killed by the stealth bolte lol https://youtu.be/cHP4A7XxKjU
Battlefield moment
I imagine this is how most Mackay players feel when playing the game.
mackay died 16000 times and came back every time
Jake Gyllenhaal*
bro i played bo1 campaign at least 40 times on wii
dude
Feel like his grappling hooks needs a little more range
I'm sure he is a cool dude
it really is a good thing this game is crossplay, console users don't have any of the good PC fps games so they're kinda stuck here
I'd have some poutine with him
I played Vorkuta at least 150 times on veteran
It'd be better if ps and Xbox could play together when crossplay is off
i ACTUALLY went to vorkuta
RIP gvt
2 minutes at 3/64 in lobby
and played it on realistic
what did they do to it
Be better if 2042 had kbm support
nah
It feels different... no more one shot
On console I mean
bro
WHY ONLY ONE MAP FOR S2
Definitely yes, that way pc players can't farm me XD
YOU HAD ONE JOB
it was never supposed to be a one shot
Upper chest is what I mean
yes
was never supposed to be a 1 shot
no information about s2 is out yet
PC definitely doesn't have the population to survive on its own. Not even close. 5k is super low. Unfortunately changing crossplay to work like that would be destroying the PC market, which doesn't make much sense since BF is a PC game
Dude rolls in here full caps and throwing YouTube links
Trust me, it's less on ps5
It's less on ps4
I HAVE to have crossplay on even for portal
It's a fucking elephant gun
I believe it. Between the scarcity of PS5s and the growing understanding that consoles are inferior money sinks, it doesn't surprise me
only needs 128 players to fill up a lobby
literally click the youtube link i sent
untill it drops below that, its enough to survive
which is a kaleidoscope comparison video
actually dont click that link
console aim assist seems a bit to snappy
i meant this
if it had a server browser then it wouldn't matter if there were 5000 players online or 500, you could theoretically always find a place that's always popping off, depending on the time of day of course.
I like consoles, I get to spend more time playing games than going on Discord asking why this or that doesn't work
Caspian Border let's goooo
idk i cant hear the video since im in class
but according to comments its 1 new map for S2
ah yes im gonna watch a 43 minute video for one line
Mate pay attention to class
no
I love playing Exodus Conquest
its philosophy
Fuck
Get off that gizmo gadget and work
Lmao
It's weird that they leave the dev videos like this unlisted on their channel.
i'm glad they're still doing hazard zone updates. never seemed right to me to get rid of a mode just because the average W key spammer didn't understand more high-stakes and competitive gameplay
O.o
you didnt see that way
half-life scientist scream
why no one plays exposure
Give exodus a look.
who says pc only has 5k players?
It also might be night time where you are and people do be sleeping still.
constantly being uptiered
It's weird they're still dedicating resources to it after announcing they were functionally abandoning it. Wish Breakthrough 128p got the HZ treatment of still existing : |
Steam most likely.
gonna try exodus
Indeed. This is the only place I've seen people pretend that Origin has a playerbase size bigger than the hundreds lol
origin is literally where most people play BF games
omg i am in
please buff the everloving fuck out of the stinger
I mean Steam is garbage but there's no point lying about Origin lol
no dont
and stealth helo is still not nerfed
nobody is
Historically yes, because that was the only place to play BF games when EA removed them from Steam. Now that it's back on Steam it's very likely shifted back to Steam as the majority of where folks play.
i mean... considering that origin was the only place to get bf games for decades, and also considering bf games launch through origin no matter the platform you got it on...
most people want to keep their games in one place, so they have all battlefiend games on their origin
most people that know bf games still launch through origin will also buy it through origin too....
you know, to keep resources lower
Definitely lol
id honestly guess that origin has close to steam numbers, and wouldnt be surprised if it had more players
it 100% has more players than steam
society
i dont believe in tom henderson, but he did say steam is only 20% of the player count
Origin crossplay must be broken, otherwise we'd have all these mysterious massive playercounts stopping us from having to wait 5 minutes for each match to start.
We have 14 in our 2042 crew and only 2 or 3 of them have it through steam. I've always taken the steam count and multiplied by 4 to get origin.
We're a PC only group, so it's only going to be origin or steam for us
they got banned for cheating and are pretending they got banned for bots
i know my bf clan has mostly purchased it through origin as well
i grinded a shitload on the kaleidoscope rooftop
no ban
nobody has gotten banned for AI farming unless they were hacking or glitching
yeah I just haven't seen so much steam 2042 activity for all that we use those numbers as somehow definitive
or had some sus ass shit running in the background
yea of course we cant make any claims, just observations
no you havent
they dont state a ban reason
so you dont know why they were banned
They didn't ban for AI farming, they changed the XP you can get from it so I really doubt that was a big banning event at any point.
friend seems to like to talk out of his ass
i havent seen max complain about bot xp for a while
strong doubt
@grizzled whale did they added enviromental destructions
he didnt get banned for AI farming
In this update
i think for massive 128 player warfare that no other game is doing to this degree, performance is pretty decent
not much to compare it to at least
and he can be locked out of his account if he charged back
even rush frame rate suck ass lol
GG ez
get a better pc
did some sus shit and risks losing his account cuz he cant deal with the consequenses
problem solved
dude likely got banned justifiably, charging back is absolutely petty
I think Iโm addicted to using Paik I have a problem
my pc is capable of running bf5 at ultra at 80fps
ok
he wasnt wrongly banned
game just coded by a bunch of chimps
my pc can run minesweeper at 9k fps
its called theft
this sounds like a made up scenario for "lul 2042 bad" meme takes
Update is good
yea? how many games do what 2042 does?
it doesnt translate over to bf2042 though
you paid for a game, accepted the TOS, got banned, and then scammed the reseller by charging back
So i just witnessed the giant tower get destroyed on caspian border
no game
I keep getting Noshar Canals
they dont need to prove it to you
he did sus shit, got caught, got banned
he knows what he did
so... you dont think that since there are no other games like 2042 that doesnt mean its hard to develop for in the first place?
end of story
he most likely broke TOS so they are fully in their right to revoke access
they had a perfect foundation. bf4
hell they couldve done bf2142
are you talking performance or gameplay design?
i wouldve been happy
both
everything about 2042 sucks
ok well we WERE only talking about performance so i dont get the point in bringing up other topics...

except the gunplay, gameplay, mechanics, maps vehicles
So the 50mm on transports got nerfed again?
Felt like the first nerf was enough
if you like it thats fine
Nyphon going to-to-toe is always what gets me through my afternoon on days I have to go into the office
i wish i could not...
bunch of meme kid with low tier takes
Your good 
ill never understand people that work in absolutes
only people defending the devs now are the salty shitters who bought the ultimate edition
Call me a Paik main now
I'm looking at that "never" in the statement lol 
i want a real battlefield
lol i thought the same
closest thing to that at the moment is either bf4 or bf1
Bro they said they are looking at improving orbital and manifest next
they tryna turn the good maps into goated maps?
orbital is fine
hourglass needs the biggest rework
Paik with 12m drum op
i mean, the main aspect of a bf game is large scale combined arms warfare in a sanbox setting... 2042 definitely has that
They said that will take a long time because it's a huge task to fix it
bare minimum yes
how do you even make manifest better?
One of my favorite tiers to do was Paik whilst BT 128 was still in the game... Kaleidoscope, A1 flag. Just do your thing haha.
did they say that on the stream?
haven't watched it
Get more action on the non-hill sectors somehow?
Especially with her buff now too
The atrocious spawns. All I can think of. And bringing back first A point
ah i only think of conquest, i dont play BT
we love paik mains
Yeah, said Hourglass will take time and orbital and manifest will probably come after renewal
wait
well that sucks
aint sundance have the most skins so far
After Paik I think Iโll go use Boris
Even better versions of orbital and manifest is kinda hyyyyyype tho
orbital is fine tbh idk whats there to be fix
orbital is my favourite map
Imagine even better version of it
HOLY SHIT
interested to see what they are planning
Manifest is fine imo. Discarded just needs optimization heavily and bring back original A and B sector, but cut away the empty field you have to spend 40 seconds running on.
Should they change breakaway though
Make it so not every time the fucking rocket blows up only when Iโm on the point
Big ahh map
A1 sucks on breakaway
Delete it and hourglass
Og breakaway they should get rid of B sector all together and that's all I had against breakaway
Man but I like hour glass at night though
In what mode
BT. I only play bt
breakaway ugh
Hourglass night/duststorm should happen more often tbh
Yeah itโs amazing
d1 and d2
We need more night cycle maps
are good in breakaway
manifest on day cycle
I tried getting like a cinematic screenshot of it
Hourglass duststorm should be more frequent than sunny day imo
Thatโll be cool to see
it would be nice if the dust storm happened without the tornado
think its always both
Pretty sure it did
i think i saw it happen
I think the red dust storm should be the permanent light setting for hourglass
I could forgive 1 map for season 1 since they spent all their time fixing the game.
But this is legitimately unacceptable
So Irish is bugged worse than before
I have the outline of the sentinel but it puts down 2 shields and I can't pick them up
Wowโฆ conquest, crossplay off and Iโm the only player in a server.
The game is ditched
Skeleton crew
It's over
I hate to say it
But I think they jumped ship already
Well, we know that despite the "all in on 2042" there are devs working on other projects. Which would be fine if the messaging from DICE's GM was that "we're all focused on 2042" : |
I hope the orbital changes will bring the A, C, and F flags closer to the others. That's the main problem with orbital imo, those sectors are too far from the action
exactly how long do they need to have everyone working on 2042 after that announcement?
I mean the interviews were like a month and a half ago when S1 launched? So hardly as if those are "ancient".
the point still stands
I completely forgot that they said something in regards to season 2 about more content but then I realised how little I care for the game.
i feel like things changing after a month and a half isnt really something worth complaining about
Bruh moment 
its not like everyone on the team is there for post launch development.. some people are hired literally for new titles...
Yeah making maps takes time but jeez.
I dunno, maybe until 2042 actually feels like it has "the full studio" working on it, because it hasn't felt like that since the first 3 weeks post launch when they were pushing out meaty, weekly patches with bugfixes and improvements.
so we work on consumer feelings as a form of measurement.. gotcha
Anyone trying to squad up on 2042 ?
Because we have other measurements to base it off of? >.>
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thats my point...
we have no actual metric to reasonably gauge from...
this game plays way different than the rest
Is it normal there's not a Kaleidoscope rotation in gamemodes ?
Havent gotten kaleidoscope yet
movement and gunplay fairly similar to bfv, but bfv changed a lot from the previous bf titles
Why canโt I host a portal experience? Itโs greyed out and has a red exclamation mark but doesnโt say why
the way we look around run and such.. are weird
atleast on last gen
ah no idea about consoles
The 64 version layout was well done
Damn man. 1 new map for s2 is sad
isnt that what was stated though?
I dont think dice ever stated whats in a season beyond a specialist really
one of those vague promises you cant call them out on kinda thing
im pretty sure ive seen it stated multiple times that its 1 specialist and 1 map per season
"Year 1 Pass (Available Now): 4 New Specialists (1 per Season), 4 Battle Passes (1 per Season), and 3 Epic Skin Bundles (โBlistered Earthโ, โTempestโ, and โCold Bloodโ)" from the Gold Edition store page
Nothing about maps specifically in there, and I don't believe they've been explicit anywhere else.
lol thats worse. not even guaranteed maps lol
Honestly 1 new map in S2 is expected, but still underwhelming. I was holding out hope that S1 was them "getting back in the saddle" after spending like 6 months bugfixing and finishing design work that wasn't done and they'd start blowing us away by "overdelivering" and turning the marketing machine back on to bring folks back in S2. Now that hope is pushed to S3 but the hope dwindles each time it's pushed to another season. (I was hoping this would happen in S1)
i could have sworn there was a tweet saying there would be 1 map a season but im not gonna look for it
the only tweet ive seen on season content was from tom like a month before launch i think. nothing else from any other source
IIRC they've been vague/noncommittal on maps-per-season in general.
they had roadmaps for V but had to cut chunks outta that before
good news, there's a stats page now after today's update
V is fine. it had its issues and bad start but its fine now. its live service was pretty bad but it staggered to where it is
when the frick will stat tracker update for bsv
https://twitter.com/DRUNKKZ3/status/1554514428770586631 eyyyy, maybe this is the source of the weird TTK/TTD disparities folks keep encountering. I know some are even lower like Apex, but 60Hz+ seems to be more common nowadays.
idk, its not there and i want it to be
It sadly doesn't have any of the season 1 content, so the rank progress also doesn't match actual rank, probably because of time spent as Lis
thatd be....weird for a stat tracker
wait what? stat tracking page doesn't track anything that was added in S1?
or am I misreading
Battlefieldtracker
oh, third party site
2042 
45hz is already laughable, can't even fathom playing on 20hz w/ old gen
I have to hope/assume it's another concession that was required for 128p/pointlessly large maps. As much as I loved 128p BT, it sure seems like moving to 128p was a massive mistake for them on the design front.
Id be happy with less impressive graphics if it let dice do more with the game. something like MAGs bigger maps but with destruction would be really cool
oh well, I'm excited to try the updated Kaleidoscope and hope matches aren't still just "Helicopter infantry farming simulator 2022" anymore (yes, I'm salty) with the nerfs later today
MAG is an old gen gamd that looks as good as 2042 or better
It's not really a big deal but does anyone know why 2042 looks worse graphically than let's say bf1? It might be me but that's how I see it
They say its due to the 128 player count
its strains the CPU
haha thats a bit far i think
Depends, since scene for scene comparisons are hard. But I'd argue, largely, extensive resources dedicated to larger maps/player sizes means less bandwidth for a lot of other things that lean on the CPU like more complex geometry on the ground (i.e. clutter). Shouldn't impact texture quality much though, I believe (I'm not tech expert, just a guy that likes following tech stuff he doesn't fully understand)
Even imo 128 players isn't even worth it :/
lmao i know
mag didnt even look good when it came out
Yo were any changes made with breakthrough?
Websearch shows 0 results for "breakthrough" on the patch notes, so probably not.
I was Trolling Nyphon 
i figured, i just know theres smoothbrains that would just accept that statement
2042 doesn't even look bad. It's the lack of atmosphere in almost every map that really screws things up visually
Very true
Gvt is too satisfying just gotta get some standard issue rounds and i can rack up some more kills
Been on the game for 10 hours. Still not been on the remake ๐
anyone know if they fixed the glitch where you couldnt ads after exiting a vehicle until you die
Which is better for the gvt: standard or highpower rounds?
i think it loses the insane detail that bfv has, which also makes sense considering the player count and map size
but on that note, i wish they didnt do 128 players and kept that level of detail
Character meshes look super wonky in 2042.
Very plastic-y.
The way lighting is rendered in gen looks a bit odd in comparison to BFV and 1.
lmao tanks flying all over the place
Anyone else have disappearing things on renewal?
lol, I'm listening to the video and it's amusing hearing DICE use the wrong pronouns* for Sundance.
Have you seen them say there'll only be one map in season two?
man they really have abandoned portal maps havent they
Not yet, barely 10 minutes into the video. Only thing notable they've discussed is how map reworks take so much time because (as predicted), the maxed out map complexity for launch maps so they're having to find areas to cut assets to give them leeway to add cover etc.
Is there only 4 weapons with the Masterkey under barrel?
M5A3
AK-24
LCMG
SWS-10
Wtf 
and discussing how they set themselves up for huge challenges with the specialists like sundance being impossible to balance across game modes (NOBODY COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!)
The old class system was also not balanced across gamemodes
I wouldn't argue it was, but it was far, far, far less complex and less difficult to balance vs. having a dozen specialists that have wildly different passive/active abilities.
well its only a problem for dice management to notice and dice devs to fix lol
Not really. Since you don't have to combine all the special specialist stuff with class specific guns etc
Make a bf with 1 game mode only 
Would be the best damn bf ever
Cuz what they lack is focus in design
I know you are trolling but please no
Sure, but now you have super powerful specialist abilities + no weapon limitations which further opens up gameplay opportunities (WHICH IS A GOOD THING) but comes with increased complexity in balancing.
id argue its way harder to balance locked loadouts than open... i mean open really just means 95% of gadgets are interchangeable, no concern of interactions
I'm not
bf with only grander operations
Ok it's craziness so
It would absolutely be better. Because it would have design focus.
It would be boring af
No it wouldn't

AOW should just have Conquest, Rreakthrough, Rush, TDM and some kind of Assault Conquest with amphibious maps, it would be perfect
But that means you're now having to adjust a gadget while keeping in mind how it plays with every specialists toolkit + all weapons vs. a limited selection of weapons. Again, I LIKE the open weapon/gadget system, but that alone adds a lot of complexity to the traditional BF format without even having to consider the extra complexity specialists bring. The devs call out Sundance as a particularly challenging specialist to balance and it makes perfect sense with her insane mobility and grenades.
If your problem is variety, that would be solved by having variety in map design
I hope the next game will have some Grand Operations mode, with modern settings it would make the bext game really good
Aka having your caspian border and your amiens and op locker
concerning yourself with a single gadget vs an entire kit though...
No variety of gamemodes has always been a thing for FPS games, I find it normal to get multiple gamemodes
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The kit is defined, it has hard limits. This system is not defined, it's super open which adds a lot more considerations with every change.
specialists do inherently bring more concerns with balancing, but not when they go open loadouts as well
?
Bad company 2 was a rush game
I never played it and I don't want to if it's only rush focused
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Bf needs focused design one way or another
That's how you get bangers like iwo jima breakthrough
Sure, let's look at Sundance. They can use any weapon they want, so it's not just balancing their mobility and grenades around the expectation that - as assault - they'll largely only have access to CQC weapons. Instead, now you're having to balance their mobility around that expectation, but ALSO that they'll be able to reach a lot of sniper positions that otherwise wouldn't be accessible to the recon specialists, or that Sundance would have access to but would be unattractive to use due to having little/no access to long range weapons.
I don't play a FPs game to only play the same gamemode that's just normal and you are probably the only one I see saying he wants only one gamemode
yea but its easier to change an individual cog (sundance) to balance vs considering a whole kit
(Note: I am making more of an effort to get Sundance's pronouns* (I can't spell) right than DICE : P)
Damn, what a shame that there'll only be one map in season 2 as well.
And why not being able to play it in conquest ?
It kinda sucks in conquest lol
The success of Grand Operations on BFV is based on the fact the gamemode changes after each match, however you are still playing in the same party for at least 3 matches
"the success of grand operations" lol
I'm guessing support has been significantly lowered for this game knowing that now.
Which is a rip.
Again, it's not. Because you're balancing their mobility against a far greater range of weapons/gadgets. Traditional BF wouldn't give Sundance the SOFLAM, but now you can have a Sundance gliding to higher elevation locations where folks aren't usually going to look spotting the whole enemy team.
Yes it's kinda disappointing, I hope we'll get more weapons than in season 2 though
I'll be fine with 2 weapons as long as one isn't a sidearm or meme weapon like the crossbow : |
i dont see how it isnt.. other people can access the same weapons.. its not like sundance perk is that she only has access to other weapons...
if the problem is sundance getting to places other specialists cant then you change that aspect...
I'm honestly fine with having every season like season 1... The real pain will be when support ends after s1 and we'll have nothing for a year while waiting for the next rushed release
I would prefer at least 4 weapons, everybody here told me the small amount of weapons in season 1 was due to the fact they were focused on fixing the game, I hope they weren't wrong and that season 2 will get more of them
which theres not a lot of places sundance can get to that other specs cant, shes just faster about it really
?

50-13 ;=- bsv
I'm hoping/assuming 2 new weapons, and a few of the Portal weapons finally make it over to AOW finally.
I am just asking for an explanation and you laugh, shows how mature and brainy you are

Fart
I saw a leak about 4 weapons and the Portal ones in addition, I hope it's true
is that a hat in time character?
gotta say thats kinda sad for all hands on deck
Tiny tina
Sorry I don't understand (I struggle a bit with English
)
ah, looks like a hat in time character
Fluent in crab tho
sorry i meant that that amount of content is sad with dice saying that everyone is working on 2042
it would look better if they went with the skeleton crew narrative
All hands (of the live service team, which dice doesn't really have yet) on deck
Ha yes I agree, the game should have a lot more content and Dice/EA pretending there are still a lot of devs on the game sounds a bit like a lie to me but whatever lol
Legit if we get 4 weapons and atleast 10+ portal weapons, we'll have way more variety rather than k30 spam
Crab people, tastes like crab, talk like people
yo, if we get more than a few Portal weapons that'll be a huge win
Straight up, my biggest issue w game rn is weapon variety
Exactly and it would be a way less boring, weapons variety would make the game a way more enjoyable
Like bf4 where we had 100 times more weapons but still just saw AEK spam? 
really does feel like the bare minimum doesnt it
the community meta is always gonna meta
when 99% of players will end up using the same 5 weapons no matter how many weapons are in game... looks at every game in the history of ever...
theres always gonna be a meta community but not everyone is gonna use whats meta
Still, idk how y'all can say it would be bad to have more weapons
the only reason i want more weapons is so that they could hopefully do locked loadouts

Yes I don't really think the game would lack content so much if the team working on it was a full team, I guess they are putting a lot of efforts on the next game rn and I hope they are doing well with it
Any mixup is welcome, we've been playing with the same weapons since launch, we need way more
<-- anti meta weapon player 
its like having voip, yea lets have it, but at the same time its rather trivial
Ha a man of good tastes as I can see
theyre gonna have to do some amazing bs to get people to forget 2042 anytime soon lol
i mean.. its been a factor in bf games since forever
It's not trivial to have more weapons in a shooter come on we have like 2 handguns, imagine if they add the BF3 launchers so we can use something other than the M5
ngl the amount of weapons in bf4 and even BFV currently is overwhelming and I can't think of a good way to choose one of them other than picking the meta gun
I know I also want it back in the next BF game but with such an amount of content they can't do it in BF2042
Lol I think the same, I don't think they want people to remember this game, once the next game releases they will bury this one very deep so nobody can talk about it anymore
Vs medic had some decent flexibility with their guns though. you got smgs for close range and carbines for mid range with suppressed or nade launchy flavors
most of the bf4 weapons don't even add variety, they just add clutter in choosing what to use
if theres one thing everyone forgets its that the internet never forgets
I was asking for that for a while now, I am really tired of using the same rocket launcher since the game released
2042's medic has more flexibility 
I wear my tier 1 M5 with great pride for this reason lol
honestly iโm fine with 1 map in season 2 if it is a really good map and we also get more of other content + reworks
Mad respect for that
sure but im talking about Vmedics ability to be flexibile and not run meta necesarrily
Yes unless the next game is a real banger and everybody enjoys it, this one isn't going to be forgotten soon because of how bad it is received by community
According to leaks it could be more infantry focused but I still wait to see
we will see
Yeah. 1 new map and 1 rework per season is fine to keep us fed till the next game. My problem is it won't last till the next game's release. There will be a drought
About time we get a infantry map
i can imagine the initial reveal is gonna be drowned out with 2042 reminders
Lmao 2042 flashback memes everywhere yeah
I love and hate being teased this way ... would be amazing to have an infantry map
exposure is very inf focused
It will not be infantry only I think but especially focused on it though, it can be really good
And the 2042 reminders will be drowned by 2042 believers sharing the truth of the 2021 goty ๐
I thought the next BF being announced is when we realize that 2042 is actually a hidden gem and a fantastic game? : P
Like a sect
Prediction: s2 map won't be as good as exposure
It will be better
Supposedly it's more infantry focused so...that's very excellent.
yeah iโm worried about that as well
Source?
why are my attachments getting reseted every match
Prediction: next specialist will be a support specialist 
Skill issue ngl
You're not wrong, B/C/D is mostly infantry but it's also a very very linear section of the map and to get around that requires fending off vehicles
ut seen folks talking about that. I'm still slowly going through the dev video so it may be mentioned in there.
I hope people won't say that like they always do when a new BF comes out because almost nobody played this one
Think it's just copium from community
Exposure is an insta classic. I highly doubt any map they drop will be better.
Battlefield V moment 
lmao
Yo I hope so, there's 3 specialists for every other "class" and I'm curious what kinda kit another medic would get.
Iโm not fine with less than 4 good maps per season
Nah player numbers will go up over the next year
oh
Iโm not fine with you 
Could very well be, but I'll find out...eventually when I can dedicate time to watching the rest of the video, heh.
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Loadout changes aren't saving rn, temporary
Bro its a live service. Relax! each new season we will get a rework map. Think of this like Apex where they make map changes with every new season.
With each new title being worse than it's predecessor, it's easy for that trend to continue.
Yes that's... for sure 

hmmm
They gonna ruin manifest and orbital like they ruin apex maps? 
now theres some sweet sweet copium
New tweet from Battlefield: https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1554515586314559488
Update:
You'll continue to experience an adjustment in save states for your Loadout between rounds.
Your Loadouts are currently locked to their pre-Update 1.2 settings, and adjustments made mid-round will continue to reset to their previous state in the next round.
CHOOSE OPTIMISM
The good DLC times lol
tbh tho, content is lackingโฆ in the video they said that theyโre trying to focus on content, ur it is kinda sad we wonโt get too much more rn
I hope that you are not serious
for this series
I'm sorry. You will not be fine I fear.
I am never fine
Kek
Serious tho... Hourglass and breakaway are the worst maps. not sure how orbital and manifest were priority. Those maps are ok for now.
thank you people
well they are focusing on quality of content over quantity
Season 2 will get more I hope, 4 new weapons and Portal weapons would be really good
Because hourglass and breakaway are the hardest to improve
Just for this game yes im serious
iโll take quality over quantity
but maybe provide a tiny bit of balance to quell those whom do not like the lack of content
Seriously. Manifest has always been in a fairly decent place while Hourglass is a damned disaster of a map : |
literally me
Carbonic make new maps for us please
They don't have the technology for that yet 
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dozer is still trash, but slightly less
Soooo by that logic they A) dont wanna put in time and effort Or B) They dont have enough manpower to help with the rework (AKA Skeleton crew)
I would love to. If you get DICE to send me the editor and teach me how to use it I will make sooo much map.
quality over quantity
we just really want bf1942-V maps tbh
Optimism left the building after the 3rd flop in a row.
COMMUNITY. MADE. MAPS. APPROVED. BY. DICE. FOR. PUBLIC. PLAY! Seriously, imagine if DICE gave players tools to make maps and would actively review/curate them for rotation in AOW.
I will ask them to get you this map editor, then I expect you to give us 2042 Metro
dunno man seems like dice is pulling all map teams from portal to aow
we lack weapons
Then they wont make money
You mean like Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2? We had tons of tools but they've all been stripped away and now the features are going with it.
Sure 95% of the maps would be utter trash, 3% would be alright, 1% would be pretty good...but that final 1% would be amazing.
Not sure I'm following that logic..
i dunno man. 8 months into reworked maps seems kinda slow
"We're adding a new feature, the Community Battle Pass! This grants you access to our rotating pool of community-made maps." solved the problem, homeslice
I've already played all the old maps. I want new maps, so no, not everybody.
Easy cash grab and solution
it is but i cant imagine that the portal map teams are working on portal maps if we havent seen anything mapwise for portal and aow map releases/reworks are this slow
Valid reason
That's what I'm here for. Shitposting brilliant gameplay and monetization ideas.
And i thought i was the clown
Yeah tho i have to admit. Thats just standard procedure with live service models
They got rid of the huge bits of lighting on manifest ๐ฆ
Real though, I'm a huge proponent of community-created content (knowing most is garbage) as a tool to greatly expand content in online games. It just requires work from the developer to review and curate said community content.
Sure. The remains of a flooded futuristic train station, sounds fun if you want boat action ๐
why make any sort of content when we can make tons of money selling expensive skins
maybe one day Portal will be something similar to the MCC setting with classic maps added
I would be fine with the map editor being limited to editing existing maps just to the extent of adding/removing/moving assets (staying below their maximum asset count they mentioned in the vid) even if we couldn't adjust terrain, sky box, etc.
Cod and Fortnite do it easy why cant we!?
oh wait they mentioned an editor in the video?
no no no sorry not what I meant
because we dont want to be like codd and fortnite
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although.. they DID mention one in their player survey some months ago so... idk
hmmmmmm
tbh. at this point I would totally fine with DICE just reusing old assets and make a few variations of existing map themes
everyone wants that cod/fornite money without putting in that cod/fortnite money
i wonder if theyโll do another core feedback
Best idea ever, amphibious and infantry focused combats in a flooded area underground in London Metro, just like in the Exodus trailer
YUP HALO ๐คก They doin the same thing
I mean we're months late for the other feedback loop
exactly
Halo be wanting that cod money without the work
lol
has halo gotten anything ?
nope
it has joe
bruh
I'll continue to argue for "reversable" breakthrough layouts. Imagine Hourglass starting in the city and ending in the stadium, that'd be so rad.
barely an open beta for Co-op
so its in a worse state than bf2042 or no
yes
Alot worse yes
dice could try squad map-layering if they made more pois on the maps, but theyd prob need to be bigger
I asked a dev in real life for that for BFV for Operations ๐
Gotta say and admit. I really like the new Kali map. Feels more like Battlefield
And they said yes, right?
They already have ๐
The church in BotB is the same one from V
The dude I talked to said it sounded interesting. That's about it, it was at EA Play.
The BFV operations would probably play like ass in reverse to be fair, and all the fortifications would need to be reversed.
Hey, that's better than a "no"!
lol what year?
I went in 2017 and 2018. couldn't go 2019 because I was at disneyland, but I was able to attend E3 proper that year a few days later.
Would have gone 2020, 2021, 2022... 
god i wish theyโd stop changing the tv scope
its like every update they move it back
or make the reticle bigger
E3 is only remembered for cringe or Twilight Princess reveal
2018 I think it was
Alright I check the rework of the map and played it, itโs pretty good has a lot of cover too
i just did a 10 man chain kill on the new map at b1, jesus that was goood
DOZER's shield doesnt seem to hit properly in stairs
Right now the power is out at my place and my house, I canโt continue playing 2042 until the power comes back
Anyone else having audio issues with 3D headphones? Footsteps and shots are muffled??
How's the update?
shiny
brrrrrrt
more or less.. kaleidoscope looks good... i can finally enjoy a match while defending.. played 2 games as defender, lost 1 (but was close) and won the other (kinda easily) but its way more balanced now...
but hit reg is fucked... i unloaded half a magazine on an enemy like 20/25 meters away from me... crosshair on top of him... not even 1 shot registered...
but sometimes im tapping enemies with 1 bullet
so its very inconsistent
Update is a big improvement and step forward. For map at least
kaleidoscope looks really good... after played 2 games on it, then went to manifest, and damn.. what a diference..
but the update brought some visual bugs... like words or numbers misplaced but i can live with that, they probably will fix it next update
but apparently sundance grenades icons are still messed up...
also i think they buffed the aim assist a bit too much..
i got kaleidoscope in 1st match lets go
but need to play more to know for sure
bsv is still very strong... i think needs a bit more nerf... or then its the hit reg or something.. cause im getting dropped almost like if it wasn't nerfed...
hope they release an hotfix for whatever the issue is that, made them to disable the loadout saves, asap... cause its really annoying...
but i guess thats my fault, cause i broke my rule "never play on patch day" lol
hows the new patch fellas?
shiny
did anything break yet or is is smooth sailing?
see yes thats what im saying
Holy fuck just started using the K30 for the first time since the game came out and WOW it is strong AF
yeah they nerfed the damage at close range
K30
Reduced K30 ammo type damage for Subsonic, Standard Issue and High-Power rounds
Subsonic, 0-10m - 22 dmg > 18 dmg
Subsonic, 30-40m - 18 dmg > 15 dmg
Standard Issue, 0-10m - 22 dmg > 18 dmg
High-Power, 0-10m - 22 dmg > 18 dmg
Very jelly. My squad been trying for the past few matches
yeah i was gonna say there's portal servers
No crossplay? ๐
Yup
when i got on at like 2am earlier there were like 4 servers that were full for only kale
When people discover a Vector will always be good at CQC in any game it's in unless it's unrealistic
https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-nostalgia-critic-screaming-meme-gif-15223814
Sheeesh. Can you DM me the server
damn
It was a couple hours ago I'm not on
TORNADO
Shit might be dead now lol
Wouldn't be surprised if it was still up tho
anyways the TV 2x is unusable for me now
shit looks terrible now
so im just gonna use K8
Maybe get better eyes?
Whatโs wrong with the TV 2x?
The ADS bug is still around sadly, but I can atleast fix is easily
couldnt we call a vehicle at beta?
If you could then it was really glitchy (same as launch) to the point where I don't even remember being able to call them in during beta
its large
Using shield feels a lot smoother now.
how about you CQ-see these hands
very hot
Good time for me to be working on dozer tier 1 ๐
Oh good, I just started playing around with it recently and holy heck the attacks felt janky as hell in terms of if they'd connect or not.
but does that show off this?
Was a ton of funy bullying infantry, though.
idk what this means lel
here's a comparison between old and new TV
I imagine that previously, if you started your attack animation and the enemy moved out of your crosshair before it finished, you missed. Now it will still count that as a hit?
they clearly just moved it closer to your face on the rail
Yes, the shield turns automatically towards the enemy when bashing it at melee range.
but something about that just... is offsetting. .
Lmaooo I thought it just looked that way on the crossbow when I equipped that. Didn't know it got downgraded

good because recently I started playing dozer for lulz, was frustrating having to bash 3-4 times for an attack to hit, even on an enemy that's completely unaware of me 
yeah... it looks weird...
found out i have a 4% accuracy
I need to check out the Masterkey as I forgot to check it out on Tuesday.
I miss when dozer's shield took enemy tags.
Shit I miss when the knifing animations actually showed you taking tags. Warcrimes!



