other-games

[nocturne badge]

The "doctor"?

[summer furnace]

no free horangi skin
the beta had one i didn't know of

[charred quail]

hold on lemme show you

[nocturne badge]

I know about the fox

[indigo gyro]

Horangi biohazard skin is my favorite

[nocturne badge]

I'm asking if you've seen the weed one

[charred quail]

there's a weed one?

lmao

[nocturne badge]

The tracers for it are... a thing

[nocturne badge]

The one gta v mask no one ever bought

[charred quail]

comic con cosplay looking ass

[charred quail]

ah yeah I have that skin

he's very green in-game

bullet magnet in warzone because it's just sand all around

[nocturne badge]

"Yeah I played the beta see? This gun says specifically that I did"

I don't think I've played the beta long enough to get a single one of these actually

[summer furnace]

and i played it a bit not knowing there are more rewards

[indigo gyro]

I remember me and my friend played it around 16 hours we enjoyed it too much

[charred quail]

1800 cod point for a pure black skin, that's not gonna be abused in warzone at all

[nocturne badge]

I didn't care about the rewards, one and two I couldn't endure more than 5 matches of the game lol

[indigo gyro]

I can't endure 1 match of battlefield

Too boring for me

[summer furnace]

I love hoarding rewards whether I equip them or not
also for boasting

[charred quail]

upcoming bundle

another blatantly p2w one

wtf

is going on

[high haven]

ew what's that game doing in #other-games

[summer furnace]

it's succeeding you see

you're totally not forced to buy it

love this gatekeeping quote

[charred quail]

one is free extra HP, one is free revive

imagine fighting right at the start of a DMZ match and your enemy already has a free revive

[nocturne badge]

I wouldn't really compare unlocking a gun quicker to an equipment guarantee

Especially something as valuable as self reviving in a one life mode

[indigo gyro]

P2W is P2W

[high haven]

it's more like giving you a v1 always at the start of the round of conquest of bfv

[charred quail]

It's like they update DMZ to make it less sucky, then drop these bundles to make it suck again

[nocturne badge]

I don't think catching up to other players is p2w, especially since there's nothing unique in the shortcut kit

[indigo gyro]

Advantage is advantage all I have to do is pay

[high haven]

you can earn the kits yourself by grinding, you can't grind your way to aguarrenteed revive kit every round ;D

[nocturne badge]

Not necessarily an advantage

[indigo gyro]

It is

[charred quail]

the one with the free 2-plate armor is even more OP I think, no reason to play like a coward at the start of a raid anymore, you have more HP than most of the people in the lobby, just go ham

dying doesn't remove the armor, you will always have it

why make an extraction mode if you give this kind of advantage to paid players

[next rapids]

levelling is a temporary advantage, not nearly on the same level as a guaranteed important item at the start of every match in a one life mode

like the vault edition, it was an advantage but only for a few days/weeks until everyone else levelled up the guns

[charred quail]

even tarkov edge of darkness gives you free items from the beginning but they are absolute dogshit ones that you will lose all in 3 raids

so confused with these decisions from IW

[nocturne badge]

Tarkov is guaranteed losing items, the game

[indigo gyro]

I agree that dmz is getting p2w but it's not like I don't see it in other games

[next rapids]

yeah i've got the whatever edition that gives you some guns

but i'll just lose them so i never used them

[nocturne badge]

I think the dmz items are on par with minecraft donations before mojang's eula

[charred quail]

it gives you some mp5s with the 2nd worst 9mm rounds in the game, I just sell everything and buy buckshots because shotguns early game are goated

[charred quail]

p2w minecraft servers are so stupid lol

pay real money to style on some kids in a game where progression doesn't exist

[timid kindle]

Lol damn you up early

Forgot todays Monday 💀

[indigo gyro]

It's night time

[timid kindle]

Tf

Lucky mf

[empty ivy]

Coin.

[timid kindle]

I’ll show you coin

[indigo gyro]

U just wake up
Good morning

[timid kindle]

Morning also can’t keep my eyes open 🤣

Bro I can’t be bothered to play cod anymore rn

Fuck level 650

I can’t

[indigo gyro]

That's the same situation when I was in microbial metabolism lecture

[timid kindle]

Lmao

Not playing cod till shipment is back

[indigo gyro]

3 coffee cup already done

[indigo gyro]

10v10 is back if you enjoy it

[timid kindle]

Fuck that

I need fast past

Maps

[summer furnace]

more players do make it fast paced

6v6 is sluggish

[indigo gyro]

Fastest fps that I played is titanfall ii
I saw gameplay of quake and unreal tournament those games was also very fast

[timid kindle]

Shipment = fast pace always engaging

[indigo gyro]

Killhouse is also great map

I want it back

Throwing random semtex and stuck prompting on screen is satisfying to see

[ripe pike]

Have you guys seen XDefiant

[indigo gyro]

Yes

[ripe pike]

Everybody seems to talk about it

[indigo gyro]

You don't like it

?

[ripe pike]

You played it ?

[indigo gyro]

No

I will definitely play it

[ripe pike]

It looks funnier than nowadays COD

[indigo gyro]

You mean more fun?

[ripe pike]

Why would I dislike it I didn't play it ?

[ripe pike]

Yes

[indigo gyro]

It's not released yet it's beta

We have to wait crabs

[charred quail]

max prestige gives you a pretty cool m16 skin

[ripe pike]

I know but you asked if I disliked it while I didn't play it yet lol

[indigo gyro]

I thought you into large scale battle games only

[timid kindle]

Fuck that

I hit 450 so I’m good

Can’t be bothered

Until shipment

[charred quail]

but it's literally a silver m16

[timid kindle]

😂 my name

Silver

Ha

[indigo gyro]

Unlock it

[timid kindle]

Why do they keep adding levels

[ripe pike]

No I used to like COD before it turned to massive toilet poopy simulator because of tryharders

[timid kindle]

They needa stop with adding levels lmao

[indigo gyro]

Tbh killing tryharders is fun to me

[timid kindle]

And no one talks about callisto anymore

😂

Game died

[indigo gyro]

It's single player game

[timid kindle]

More people talk about mw2

[indigo gyro]

Maybe 5-10 hour game

[indigo gyro]

Negatively but people always talk about COD

[timid kindle]

Yea and the game wasn’t even that fun

[indigo gyro]

It looks insane tho

I never played it

Digital foundary put it second in their best graphics game list

[timid kindle]

Idk found it boring half way through lmao

[indigo gyro]

Forbidden west was their number I pick

[ripe pike]

I got skill issues Dududu, I got fucking skill issues... 🥲

[timid kindle]

I been playing ready or not lately

Spent 40 bucks

[ripe pike]

I've been playing PayDay 2 lately

[charred quail]

nice, I wish there were some kind of progression in that game tho

[ripe pike]

Spent 300 hours on it

[charred quail]

Ready or not is fun overall but playing solo is meh

[indigo gyro]

I am in same boat with you

[timid kindle]

I always get my ass kicked solo

Can’t even turn a corner in piece

[ripe pike]

I just get killed by some mothefuckers sliding and riding everywhere like it's fucking Skate 3

[charred quail]

the friendly AI is kinda doodoo lol

meanwhile the enemy AI is like the devil

[timid kindle]

😂

[indigo gyro]

In which game miiw?

[charred quail]

they crawl through holes, pretend to surrender then gut knife you

[timid kindle]

Love the mods

[ripe pike]

Yeah

[timid kindle]

There should be a sniper category

Aren’t swat supposed to be equipped with snipers

In real life they are

[charred quail]

only for protective missions

you can't breach a house with a bolt-action

[indigo gyro]

Movement is slowed down in miiw
When you get cranked in miiw that running speed should be default sprint speed

[charred quail]

maybe if they add PVP, there would be sniper rifles

hopefully they don't cancel pvp

[timid kindle]

I mean you could in reality

Nothing is impossible

[charred quail]

shoot once, miss, guy in house rush you with a butter knife

die embarrassingly

[timid kindle]

💀

[indigo gyro]

https://youtu.be/vaday6e9kVI

[ripe pike]

Movements feel horrible and community makes it worse, everyone is jumping to avoid bullets it's kind of a coward attitude for MP game

[indigo gyro]

Crabs do the same jump around dodge bullets

[timid kindle]

It’s bunny hopping

[indigo gyro]

This is what I want in next cod that you will hate
I want slide cancel back with dolphin dive and game let me shoot while dolphin diving and sliding

Sliding, dolphin diving it will look soooo funny

[ripe pike]

I fucking can't

[ripe pike]

It shouldn't even exist ngl

[ripe pike]

Dududu, what have you become... 😳

[indigo gyro]

Crabs do you like apex and titanfall movement?

[next rapids]

mw2 movement is awful

they tried their best to nerf all aggressive options

[charred quail]

oh you are gonna hate xdefiant if you can't stand bunny hopping lol

[ripe pike]

Nope

[charred quail]

xdefiant is a bunny hop mad house

[ripe pike]

Ok I changed my mind XDefiant looks like shit it's not better than COD nobody should play such a wet crap as XDefiant

[indigo gyro]

No seriously that's the kind of movement I want
If you not gonna give me black ops iiii, advance warfare ii and infinite Warfare ii then give me stupid fast movement that feels smooth and fast like mw19

[next rapids]

xdefiant seems cool but i'm not good enough at it to compete lmao, got crushed in my first game

also the audio design is terrible

everything sounds flat

[ripe pike]

I think at some point they had planned to make AW2

[indigo gyro]

It will happen one day

[next rapids]

knew it was gonna be forbidden west, undisputed champion of graphical fidelity on the entire market as of now

it's really exceptional

[indigo gyro]

It is exceptional

[ripe pike]

Just like BF6, or GTA6

[summer furnace]

Good that gta 6 didn't come to last gen

[indigo gyro]

Second one in my list is last of us part ii (it's textures aren't of good quality in every area like in forbidden west but it looks insane) then comes demon souls remake

[indigo gyro]

Yeah that's guaranteed crabs

[next rapids]

callisto protocol is my second

despite the game's issues it looks fantastic

especially the character models

[indigo gyro]

Yeah that is also insane looking game 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[charred quail]

krafton is making a new extraction shooter

imagine it looking like calisto

[indigo gyro]

I love lighting in that game

[next rapids]

it's too repetitive for me

[indigo gyro]

I never played any of the above mentioned game

2 of them is psv games

Callisto I will buy when it will be on sale 80-70-90% off

[timid kindle]

Lmao

Fuck it’s 9am back to sleep

[indigo gyro]

Good night

[timid kindle]

Why you don’t stay up until 4am

Only 4 hours of sleep

[indigo gyro]

My sleep routine is messed up

Maybe one day lectures will be at night time

[ripe pike]

Yeah but we have been waiting for those long enough now 😡

[indigo gyro]

2021 was the year when 2042 released

Maybe early 2025

🤔

Or at the end of 2025

[ripe pike]

Yeah but it should have never released, we should have gotten a proper BF6 instead even if we had to wait till 2023

[indigo gyro]

There are lads who enjoy 2042 crabs

Don't say that

[ripe pike]

They should all die hahaha

BF6 SUPREMACY

[indigo gyro]

What do you want in it

[ripe pike]

No specialists, modern era and no dumb cosmetics

[indigo gyro]

like

[ripe pike]

Like what ?

[indigo gyro]

You want something like this

[ripe pike]

Yeah exactly like this

Just cosmetics which are around that type of thing

Not some strange ones like the ones from the event

[indigo gyro]

You want only milsim skins

[ripe pike]

Yes

I dislike BF2042 cosmetics

It doesn't feel like serious tone at all

They should all get helmet or tactical headgear by default

[austere sonnet]

Now that’s pog racing

[indigo gyro]

[spark oxide]

same

[indigo gyro]

I like weird skins too

[spark oxide]

this is why i only rock the default skins

guns too

skinless

[indigo gyro]

I don't have money so I have to run default

[summer furnace]

I have the bp season 2 chuy skin

[nocturne badge]

I don't think many AAA games will have a huge focus on milsim looks or gameplay

[spark oxide]

i buy skins and don'g wear them

[spark oxide]

idc for gameplay, just the aesthetic

more games need to keep their aesthetic in check

[nocturne badge]

I expect less humans in the future too lol

[charred quail]

new 2042 weapon skins look really nice

[nocturne badge]

Like an actual animal soldier

[charred quail]

the bizon and RM68 ones are pog

[spark oxide]

2042's skins are ok, i actually prefer most of them to what's in MW2

[charred quail]

they actually change the models

[nocturne badge]

I'd say battlefields skins are pretty tame compared to other AAA mp games

6 years ago I thought it would've been Rainbow 6 that would've had the tamest ones but ya know

[charred quail]

holy shit siege skins

lmao

oh boy

[nocturne badge]

I honestly dislike how it feels like each developer tries to outdo the other with the ridiculousness.

But I understand it's a sort of publicity thing

At the end of the day, there is Fortnite so I can't really complain

[summer furnace]

the lack of free authentic skins won't make me spend a dollar for one

they realistically don't deserve a penny to unlock

[nocturne badge]

That's the thing with live service games, the default skins suck so you have to pay for better ones, including the realistic ones

[indigo gyro]

I don't think that's the case with mw19

So many default skins look really good in that game

[austere sonnet]

Milsim skin > understandable tacticool skins > wired tactical skins > wired skins

[summer furnace]

realistic skins can have lots of variety

[high haven]

what, haven't thou seen the recent cosmetics? they pretty darn tactical to me my dude. fecking nightvisions, all black outfits and stuff. i hardly recognize the dudes now due all the face covered kits

[ripe pike]

The bare minimum would be to give them all at least a helmet, Sundance vibing around like she's doing some extreme vacations to mountains isn't good to me

Default skins are kinda meh

[high haven]

yeah, that's why she looking like this for me xd

[ripe pike]

Big up to you for using tactical equipment and make my game feel a bit more serious but most of people use default skins and it's 🤮

[high haven]

this is prolly my wackiest, but mostly due he's a reference to another game. (hint: uses a stun stick as takedown too)

but most people tend to be new, they gotta earn them skins first ;D and dice sometimes reset the skin outfits after an update :< happens to me sometimes

[austere sonnet]

Another hint

[high haven]

pick up that can

[austere sonnet]

ngl I probably didn’t play that game so now I’m lost

[charred quail]

jesus christ

it's HALF LIFE 2

[charred quail]

Yes

[austere sonnet]

Does it look like I owned a pc when half life was a thing

[charred quail]

you can play it now

do it

[summer furnace]

every loadout I made is named with "yes"
it just works

[austere sonnet]

True I do got a pc but like when does it go on sale

[charred quail]

half life is always on sale

[brittle portal]

Play Half-Life 2.

This is not a request

[high haven]

Dingdingding! Disgraceful display from angra to not have played the Half-life series. They're like a buck on steam during sales!

Play black mesa, then half-life two and its episodes

Or the older half-lifes if you can stomach old graohics, but fantastic gameplay

They a must play on pc

[austere sonnet]

How many half life games are there

[brittle portal]

4

[austere sonnet]

Does the fan game count

[brittle portal]

What fan game

[austere sonnet]

Idk I remember that there was one idk

[charred quail]

hunt down the f man

[brittle portal]

no that doesn't count

[austere sonnet]

Alright good

heard it was wack

[rough narwhal]

i read this as hunt showdown

[charred quail]

[austere sonnet]

Hunt down the fuck man

[summer furnace]

is there any horangi skin earnt for free?
from any sort of challenge

[austere sonnet]

@charred quail @brittle portal

[indigo gyro]

Same

[brittle portal]

that is a mood

[summer furnace]

https://youtu.be/v0ry47Ko-BM

[rocky grove]

yeah

cause in 2042 before they changed the hud sometimes the fucking glow stick on characters did not work

was wondering if i was shooting a friendly or fucking enemy cause they had the same uniform as my teammate

[austere sonnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/12oaroj/far_harbor_is_the_red_death_as_bad_as_ive_heard/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf @buoyant granite @high haven I forgor who to also ping @tribal sinew also look at that

Look at the comments

[buoyant granite]

poor lad is gonna waste all his caps for nothing

[high haven]

xd

[indigo gyro]

[charred quail]

got da skin

[next rapids]

looks like an actual cod mobile screenshot

[stiff panther]

nice skin

woah you use a GPU too?? which one do you have

[charred quail]

tried to make an Isreali M4 but the removal of the front sight is not pogger

[stiff panther]

[charred quail]

laptop 3060

[stiff panther]

that's not so bad

[charred quail]

this game is so cpu bound I can't reach 144 fps

sadge

[onyx nest]

I agree

[onyx nest]

Yep these are fire

[rocky grove]

that the coin reward thing?

[charred quail]

yup

[rocky grove]

also eww UCP camo pattern?

[charred quail]

you unlock 10 small ones you get the skin

[charred quail]

15 small ones for another skin

[rocky grove]

Multicam best camo

@hot bay the meme you did in WT

about the tank gun in the engine of a jet

still living

[hot bay]

[indigo gyro]

For some reason discord didn't showed me any notification 🤔

[onyx nest]

It’s fine I think I disabled the ping anyways

[indigo gyro]

I want this

[rocky grove]

time to wait for Mid Season update and buy Blackcell

and abuse Double BP XP

how i manage to get all of S2 BP done in short amount of time and with little effort

[nocturne badge]

I'm actually looking forward to XDefiant, the me from 3 years ago is confused

And the current me is confused, I'm looking forward to a Ubisoft game after buying Far Cry 6 and Watch Dogs Legion?

Oh and Ghost Recon Breakpoint

[tribal crypt]

Well it's not really made by ubisoft

[polar wren]

I wouldn't trust Ubisoft to make any more good games

Far cry 6 was just mid

[shut wigeon]

Pc master race in a nutshell: oh I have to restart my graphics driver, oh now I have to update my graphics driver, now I have no audio maybe I need to restart my audio driver or update it, now I get 10fps and stuttering even though my graphics card costs $1500, now I have to restart my whole system cos it keeps freezing, now the launcher won’t launch the game maybe I need to update it or servers are down etc now I have to go on discord and ask in general chat why I’m getting an error code. How is this master race?

[polar wren]

The middest far cry game ever

[elfin lark]

It did have an sks though

Most importantly without the tacticool bullshit

[polar wren]

The Far cry franchise went from cool mechanics over cool looks to cool looks over cool mechanics

Watch dogs is just in a sad state

Everything declined after the first game

[shut wigeon]

I enjoyed 2 a lot

[polar wren]

It was good but nothing like the first

The first was a gem

[shut wigeon]

Both had a clear sort of vision what they were going for. People like 1s aesthetic and feel more

But you could do more than in the first one

The first one was limited

[polar wren]

The first wasn't as over the top as the 2nd

[indigo gyro]

Best one imo is fciii

[polar wren]

Watch dogs legion was hotshit

[indigo gyro]

Attention to details wise fcii is the best

Watch ii and i is cool, I want new watch dogs to set in my favorite city nyc 🗽

[polar wren]

I don't think they can make a new watch dogs good

Their mindset is cool looks over everything

[indigo gyro]

Observer let's hope

Let's be optimistic man

[rocky grove]

Watch dog's 1 and 2 Supreme

[polar wren]

It will be visually stunning but the story will be boring or ass

[indigo gyro]

story writers for video games gets low pay or something

🤔

[rocky grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_bNcEFFhwY only song i mostly Remember from Watch dogs

[charred quail]

watch dog 1's story actually makes sense

watch dog 2 is about a group of young adults 3d printing guns and killing innocents

fun gameplay, but the story is ...

[rocky grove]

tbh no idea why but games around that time just have a Special place in my heart like they where fun but never boring

[indigo gyro]

One thing about Ubisoft games is even the downgraded version looks good

[rocky grove]

games now just

i play it then lose my interest

[indigo gyro]

Which time?

[polar wren]

Watch dogs legion is 1984 but water fucking down

[indigo gyro]

2013-2014 ?

[charred quail]

"We have a giant drone that you could ride on! It's our best feature!"

[shut wigeon]

I play a lot of ow2. Love the new hero so much

[rocky grove]

mostly yeah

[charred quail]

seriously that drone is in every single promotional video

[shut wigeon]

Chiwit pkbong chiwit

[rocky grove]

few games after 2014

but most

just

[shut wigeon]

360 days were the best

[indigo gyro]

For Ubisoft man those year was graphics flex like watch dogs 1 and ac unity

[shut wigeon]

Everything after 2012 was shit don’t @ me

[polar wren]

When they only focus on one/two features you know it's fucked

[rocky grove]

@ me

i did not @ you i @ me

[shut wigeon]

Guys

[indigo gyro]

@shut wigeon

[shut wigeon]

My friend who’s in game name is SHOTGUN

he keeps getting reported every hard point match

He runs around with the shotgun and he gets mvp every time and insane amount of kills per game

[rocky grove]

@indigo gyro this was also so fun on launch day

and GW2

[shut wigeon]

If only people didn’t abandon it

It’d be still fun

[polar wren]

Oh god what a classic

[indigo gyro]

I regret not playing it when it was alive

[rocky grove]

Garden warfare was not abandon

[polar wren]

2 was better tho

[shut wigeon]

Make a new garden warfare in unreal engine 5

[rocky grove]

it was still Alive

oh wait you mean 2

[polar wren]

Garden warfare 2 is better

By a mile

[rocky grove]

Battle for neighborvill was just a cash grab

[shut wigeon]

Games that don’t release every new year and get continuous support tend to last longer like siege

[polar wren]

100%

[rocky grove]

then they just like

yeah we done with this game

[shut wigeon]

Age of empires 2 is still king since 1997

[polar wren]

They left garden warfare and battlefront for battlefield

[shut wigeon]

Battlefront was good as well

I want battlefront 3

The graphics the sounds the feeling everything ahh

My wet hair doesn’t want to dry

[indigo gyro]

One advantage of yearlies is that if you don't like it next one is coming next year

[rocky grove]

Garden warfare 2 Battlefront oh god

[shut wigeon]

If people don’t like it they should make changes and improve it

[rocky grove]

that's all i mostly played on Xbox one

shame they had to leave it i mean they can always just go back to it

but they shrimply refuse

[shut wigeon]

PvZ Garden Royale

[rocky grove]

@polar wren GW2 was good but they forgot the Promotion characters

[indigo gyro]

what if game is totally about a theme like futuristic theme and someone don't like it
Rarely they will break the theme u ntil it's the best wiiw game cod vanguard

[polar wren]

Thank god pvz didn't get abused like angry birds

[rocky grove]

Dr chester Chester chomper

Berry Shooter and Citris Cactus

[shut wigeon]

Don’t ever mention Vanguard please

Let’s forget it ever existed

[polar wren]

You're forgetting two more

[elfin lark]

But vanguard was whacky and fun

[indigo gyro]

It's my favorite wiiw game tho

[shut wigeon]

Cactus sniper

[rocky grove]

@polar wren

or where there 6?

[polar wren]

Ah didn't see that

[rocky grove]

and they forgot

Commander mode

[polar wren]

Commander mode was eh

[rocky grove]

tho few Pea gattlings would usually kill them

[shut wigeon]

Forgor

[polar wren]

It's funny how they ported a map from GW to GW2 and didn't change anything

[shut wigeon]

Someone buy me StarCraft remastered

[polar wren]

Its fully identical

Nothing changed

[rocky grove]

Classic best

[shut wigeon]

They did the same thing in Cold War. They ported black ops 2 maps and nothing was changed

[polar wren]

What they need is to combine GW1 and GW2 and remaster it

[polar wren]

Not even graphics

[shut wigeon]

Not even graphics

[indigo gyro]

It's unbelievable for me that how much you love guns but you don't care about accuracy of vanguard guns it's impressive

I respect that

[elfin lark]

It’s because it is so over the top fucked

[charred quail]

lol

[elfin lark]

If it was just them being lazy i would ree, but you can reallly fuck those guns up

[shut wigeon]

Kekw

[polar wren]

Well I can see changes, but that's lighting, for GW2 case, everything about the map even the lighting, graphics, and models were 100% identical to GW version

[shut wigeon]

A game set in the 80s suddenly gets futuristic maps

[indigo gyro]

[charred quail]

stockless stg44

[shut wigeon]

The two games weren’t many generations apart bro

[elfin lark]

Fs2000 has arrived

[charred quail]

hahaha

[elfin lark]

The game is completely messed up to the point of entertainment

[indigo gyro]

You forgot the advanced warfare laser gun

[charred quail]

canted stripper clip

[indigo gyro]

[polar wren]

2 years

[elfin lark]

Ah even newer

[polar wren]

Yeah they weren't that far apart

[indigo gyro]

It's future

[charred quail]

they fucked up stripper clip loading in ww2, people called them out on it, and they copied the exact animation to vanguard

[polar wren]

Didn't the people from Vanguard say something about realism

[elfin lark]

Lmao realism

[indigo gyro]

Most amazing is snoop was wiiw veteran

[charred quail]

yeah, realism in the campaign

[elfin lark]

I have never played a less realistic game

[shut wigeon]

Honestly I’m not a mobile gamer but today I watched a cod mobile stream on TikTok and the game looks infinitely more fun than any cod that releases on console these past couple of years

[polar wren]

I swear they made a stupid comment before release

[charred quail]

except the campaign is one of the worst cod campaigns

[elfin lark]

The campaign really did suck

[polar wren]

Oh god that's worse

[elfin lark]

Why yes the japanese were using the stg, why do you ask?

[polar wren]

In game that's fine to an extent

[shut wigeon]

They imported it through Craigslist

[charred quail]

but hey, you can see the evil german symbol in the campaign, that's realism right

[polar wren]

But in a campaign

Bro

[elfin lark]

Oh shit game of the year

[polar wren]

You gotta be drinking lead infused water to make such a statement

[elfin lark]

Cod ww2s campaign was decently fun

[shut wigeon]

Is world war z still on gamepass

I want to give it a try

[charred quail]

cold war campaign is the best one recently

[polar wren]

True

And the zombies was nice

[indigo gyro]

It looked like a movie

[shut wigeon]

Zombies was nice I played a lot of zombies

Loved outbreak as well

[charred quail]

nope, you have to buy it now

[polar wren]

Then it got fucked in vanguard

[shut wigeon]

I won’t fuck buying things I want them for free

[polar wren]

Who made the vanguard zombies

Was it fully sledgehammer

[summer furnace]

fully no

[charred quail]

treyarch and sledgehammer made the zombie mode of vanguard

[summer furnace]

https://youtu.be/MPa8HvlmN38

[shut wigeon]

To me this game looks slightly like black ops 3 like the colours and stuff

Is it free to play

[polar wren]

I think it's best to have treyarch make it themselves for now on

[charred quail]

yup

[shut wigeon]

They need to make a game where they pay us to play it

[charred quail]

those NFT games say they would pay us to play

[shut wigeon]

I know but those are mobile games

[polar wren]

Bruh

I hope mw2022 removed the pay to win aspect on some of these new bundles

[charred quail]

haha

they are adding more

[polar wren]

Probably

But their reception is going to be awful

Damn well the majority is going to lash out

[charred quail]

they are going to release a new cod later this year, they don't care

[polar wren]

Like no one bats an eye on over priced garbage, but when that garbage brings intentional pay to win content, hell breaks loose

[nocturne badge]

I think it has to do with the actual choices and branching narrative

[lost kelp]

"choices"

[nocturne badge]

I mean, there are actual different endings and some choices do change things in the story

Better than it not being there

It made me hope mw22 would do it too and some parts would look interesting if there were choices

[lost kelp]

Would like to have bo2 branching narrative in a cod campaign

[indigo gyro]

Dmz is free to play it isn't overpriced
I understand it's pay 2 win now which I also want to be removed but I don't think it's gonna happen

[nocturne badge]

I think Treyarch is the only one that actually goes for a somewhat deeper narrative

Somewhat, it is still CoD at the end of the day

I think BO2 was nice but some of the requirements were a bit much

[polar wren]

Well games as a whole, most people don't care about shady shit a company does, but the moment when something becomes pay to win, it becomes a fucking warzone

[nocturne badge]

Don't kill the bad guy or his mind his linked to a thing that automatically uploads something and people riot through YouTube comments!

[polar wren]

30 bucks for a skin: I sleep
30 bucks for a skin and a advantage over others: get the fucking guillotine

[indigo gyro]

30bucks for a skin is optional

[polar wren]

Inflated as fuck but yes, it's totally optional

[indigo gyro]

Pay 2 aspect effects others too
30$ skin can effect gameplay if it is roze skin

[polar wren]

But that's not intentional by the devs

They nerfed it some time ago

[nocturne badge]

But that's just a theory, a Game Theory

Thanks for watching

[indigo gyro]

Tbh I would love to see 5-10$ max price for cosmetics but ain't gonna happen

[polar wren]

I mean that's what we paid for the map packs

They were cheap

And in good numbers

These skins are as inflated as diamonds

[indigo gyro]

I still don't like it
Live service is better imo if done correctly tho

[nocturne badge]

Live Service does ensure that the dlc maps have a longer lifespan

[polar wren]

But their numbers have been reduced

Noticable reduced

And the originality 50/50

[indigo gyro]

sometimes I feel like they do it intentionally so gamers fed up and huge crowd wants paid maps bundle

[charred quail]

oh yeah they added a complete black skin for 1800 cod points

[polar wren]

I would prefer cheap map bundles over free maps if we get more maps with the map bundles

[nocturne badge]

I don't think paid map packs are coming back unless it's pve stuff maybe

Like Destiny 2

[indigo gyro]

I don't want it to come back

[polar wren]

Only if we got more out of it

[nocturne badge]

Neither do I tbh

[indigo gyro]

And I want dmz to become not pay ii win but I doubt that sadly

[nocturne badge]

Of course, people want more content, that's just how it works

I eat a meal and dessert is an option and for free? GIMME DAT

[polar wren]

But it's the quality of American school food

[nocturne badge]

lol

Hey I liked some of the things on the menu

Some

[austere sonnet]

some are truly pog

[indigo gyro]

I expected hear me out lads

[austere sonnet]

but hear me out tho

[indigo gyro]

go on

[polar wren]

American school food is like that, mostly shit but free with the occasional gem

[austere sonnet]

the meatloaf is mid and the pizza is pog while the mashed potatoes are bussin

[indigo gyro]

is that truth?

Then I am happy

[austere sonnet]

chicken burgar/sandwich is just russian roulette

[polar wren]

No way you said the pizza was pog

[indigo gyro]

Because it got pizza

Now I am sad

[polar wren]

The American school food pizza is fucking oiled up cardboard

[austere sonnet]

i mean its alright but its enjoyable

i had food posining becuase the chicken sandwich was sus

[polar wren]

Bro I had better slices at a fucking gas station

[austere sonnet]

then why dont we have gas stations in our schools

[polar wren]

Oh and it was always cheese pizza

The burgers were fine tho

[austere sonnet]

we had peperoni in ours

but also had broccoli so

[polar wren]

Thin, oiled up, and dried cheese pizza

[indigo gyro]

Cardboard missing in that line

[austere sonnet]

but hear me out tho the tater tops where indeed poggers

[polar wren]

We weren't eating actual cardboard, but it felt like it

[austere sonnet]

you cant deny that @polar wren

[polar wren]

This is the cod map situation, it's free yeah, but it's mostly the cardboard pizza with the occasional good burger or tater tots

[austere sonnet]

but i do agree that the borgars where good

chicken sandwich on the other hand is a 50/50

[polar wren]

Oh yeah the tots were fire

[indigo gyro]

borgars

[austere sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/borgar-wobbuffet-wobbuffet-borgar-gif-24562262

i wouldve put weeb borgar but no

[polar wren]

The burgers and tots were good for free food from American schools

[lost kelp]

Well at least you are alive

[austere sonnet]

for now

ngl i gotta say the school bread was good

i could care less for the spaghetti

[lost kelp]

Depends on location

[polar wren]

The second you had food from a grocery store or a restaurant, it reminds you that all school foods are shit and will remain shit

[austere sonnet]

the orange chickem and beef is pog tho

like thats a S tier hands down

[polar wren]

Nothing from the school cafeteria is s tier

Actually there is one

And it's the corporate ice cream

[austere sonnet]

true but gotta have an S tier amongst other school food

[austere sonnet]

ngl ill give it an A

[polar wren]

Nah it's s, the only enjoyable item from the cafeteria

Not even the chips can top that

[austere sonnet]

actually did your school had tamales

[polar wren]

Nope

[austere sonnet]

skill issues but that was a A or low A since it was too dry

sloppy joe F tier tho

[lost kelp]

I wonder what place got the best school lunches

[charred quail]

home school

[polar wren]

Lmao

[austere sonnet]

we talking inm the US or thw whole world

[lost kelp]

Technically true

[polar wren]

I am

Home food is s tier

Nothing can top home food

[austere sonnet]

of course but we can do better than that

SS tier

[polar wren]

Well unless you have no cooking skills and fuck up the basic needs of living.

[austere sonnet]

i will say the hotdog is a sus school food item

[polar wren]

Never eat the school hotdog

[charred quail]

school wiener is no no

[elfin lark]

Always nice having a fresh smoothie and goldfish

[polar wren]

What went through the mind of Obama's wife when she decided to make American school food disgusting garbage

[charred quail]

She thought she was the president

[elfin lark]

Madame obama is responsible for the shitty food?

[polar wren]

Yep

[elfin lark]

Interesting

[charred quail]

She made it "healthier"

introduced salads

[austere sonnet]

but at what cost

[charred quail]

which kids want salad for lunch

literally zero kid

[austere sonnet]

fuck the school salad

ngl c tier

[lost kelp]

Michelle Obama moment

[tranquil gull]

School food in general fucking sucks

[charred quail]

Crouton and raw green pepper moment

[tranquil gull]

Except for popcorn chicken

I actually liked the school popcorn chicken

[austere sonnet]

I'll just eat the croutons

[tranquil gull]

We had an Ala Carte so we also could buy chips and drinks

[polar wren]

Ngl was waiting for the women + kitchen joke

[austere sonnet]

thats an oof for me lad

[tranquil gull]

So I always got a Gatorade and Chips with my school lunch

Or a slim jim

I was a sneaky fuck of a kid because ala carte was expensive

And I always wore a drug dealer looking coat

[polar wren]

[austere sonnet]

i mean hear me oput

[charred quail]

School lunch for me was curry or sushi (bachelor's) and pasta or risotto or pizza (master's)

[tranquil gull]

So I just snuck shit into my coat as the lunch ladies weren't looking

[austere sonnet]

have you ever become a dealer in school

selling chips and snacks on the side

[tranquil gull]

I bought and resold the school donuts at twice the MSRP

[austere sonnet]

based

[tranquil gull]

Dollar per donut, 5 dollars for the pack

And I always had 2 packs

[austere sonnet]

i sold candy and chips and one of my sellers cookies

[charred quail]

just go to your university's clinic, take all the free condoms then resell them to horny college students

free money

[tranquil gull]

Ooh that's a good idea

[tribal sinew]

lol kid dealin in candy

thats amazing

[shut wigeon]

This game released in 2011 for the Xbox 360. It looks good to this day.

[austere sonnet]

ng l some said that i shouldve sold it at 50 cents but like who else sold cookies besides me

i ran the cookie industry while other lads where big on candy

[tranquil gull]

Also, I want to hear this from someone else

I made chips out of ramen noodles to put in a plastic baggie to take to school with me to snack on

Anyone else do that as well?

[lost kelp]

.5 on cookies

[austere sonnet]

i sold it at a dollar

feckers really wanted me to drop the price

[charred quail]

back in vietnam it's sold in small bags, already crushed and seasoned

[shut wigeon]

Back in ‘Nam

[tranquil gull]

Oh sweet

[charred quail]

https://tenor.com/view/flashback-bad-memory-vietnam-flashback-nam-flashback-gif-12213757

[austere sonnet]

sadly no

[lost kelp]

What was the quality of set cookies?

[austere sonnet]

we did had gummy bears that was coated in kool aid powder

[austere sonnet]

idk but it was a famous amos cookies

[tranquil gull]

Being the stupid kid I was and my table of friends took bets

I once chugged a little thing of food colouring

Never again.

[lost kelp]

[austere sonnet]

but i still sold them at a dollar and they still paid for them so i still won

[tranquil gull]

Now we did also play blackjack for lunch items

I managed to win a subway sandwich and chips

[charred quail]

you all should try having a spoon of olive oil

great experience

[tranquil gull]

I once put vegetable oil in a green tea bottle

And just left it out in a party

[austere sonnet]

about 28 dollars profit

[brittle portal]

i have acquired closed beta access to xDefiant

[lost kelp]

Damn

[charred quail]

60gb? wowee

[brittle portal]

i'll let you guys know how it runs. apparently they unlocked everything due to the progression bug.

[austere sonnet]

massive gambling in school would be interesting

[lost kelp]

Who's genuinely excited for this?

[brittle portal]

I am interested.

If i wasn't i wouldn't have registered for the beta.

[lost kelp]

Truly a xD moment

[charred quail]

XDefiant

[summer furnace]

3 days ago https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/is-xdefiant-available-ps4-xbox-one

[brittle portal]

amazon luna, that's funny

[lost kelp]

xD

[brittle portal]

k i'll be back.

[lost kelp]

Have fun

If there's any fun to be had there

[brittle portal]

scoreboard after my first game. It's good.

Don't mind my name being invisible, that's apparently a client side bug.

[lost kelp]

18/14

[brittle portal]

shut up, first game, can't properly set up my settings

[elfin lark]

Hell I consider a k/d kd 1+ good enough

[lost kelp]

Maybe 1.5+ would be considered good enough

[elfin lark]

I try not to hold myself to high standards

[lost kelp]

Simply a difference in skill

[elfin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[brittle portal]

damn

i'm not posting the stats screen cause i was ass but the people i was up against were really trying

[elfin lark]

Lmao

Game is good so far?

[brittle portal]

yeah i'm having fun with it

some things are a bit meh, like the shield characters that i can't figure out what to do with.

anyway i'm gonna snipe

[elfin lark]

Tac 50 my beloved

[elfin lark]

I used the hell outta er on breakpoint

[brittle portal]

that'll probably help actually

[weak hornet]

The one thing I've noticed on XDefiant is everyone uses a character

a character

[charred quail]

The healer?

I have seen videos on yt with lobbies full of the healer from far cry 6 and a couple shield guys with the cannon

[high haven]

oh shit, enjoy. hope it's fun. sure there's no uhh nda or something considering it's closed beta? 😄

[rough narwhal]

emp was a must in previous tests

[high haven]

oh no, codes in screen, seems fine ;D

[rough narwhal]

i think this one is open beta?

[charred quail]

Closed but nda-free

[rough narwhal]

youtubers have been posting so NDA is definitely way more lax than they previously were

[charred quail]

Devs have said to shit on the beta all you want so they can fix it

Nice gesture, coming from Ubisoft

Of all companies

[high haven]

tbh, not every dev team in ubisoft is the same.

[brittle portal]

nah it's got no NDA, the previous tests did but this one doesn't

you can record it, stream it, all that jazz.

also, i am very bad at sniping.

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-very-nice-well-done-gif-4295060

oh xd

sniping usually hard in arena shooters

[brittle portal]

i think the 12x is a bit much

[high haven]

is it two tap?

[brittle portal]

but there is an 8x

so i'm gonna try that

[high haven]

cant you just go irons? 😄

[brittle portal]

depends on the character, most of the time the TAC-50 can 1 shot, unless it's the Libertad lady at 200 HP, then it can't

no

these are the optic options, and honestly, i am fine with that.

[high haven]

4x should be nice

that menu design looks neat

[brittle portal]

i've been playing the Echelon characters. mostly to be a bit different.

[high haven]

can you customize them or are they preset characters?

[brittle portal]

you have 3 different models for each faction

Dedsec only has one right now, which is probably why it's not available in this test.

[high haven]

i think dedsec is part ze battlepass at launch or so

btw is the fn/sc2000 really not in? D:

[brittle portal]

it's not

[high haven]

that's a bummer

[elfin lark]

Intriguing to not see the wolves there. I had thought i seen em in it

[brittle portal]

interesting situation i seem to be in

yeah i'm leaving this

[rough narwhal]

pretty sure they were before too, i dont recall seeing libertad before so maybe they added them in

[high haven]

game used to be tom clancy related, but they dropped that and basically became a ubisoft everything game

hence inclusion of wolves, echelon and division focus at first ;D

[rough narwhal]

since i can game now im gonna try to get a code for this

[next rapids]

You can get one from twitch

[high haven]

I thought that event ended?

[rough narwhal]

im on twitch right now and a bunch of streamers are claiming they have drops enabled

[high haven]

if you find one that works, let me know 😄

i'd love to try it out too

[rough narwhal]

just gotta watch random twitche streamers with your account bound and shit iirc

[high haven]

i'll give it a try

[rough narwhal]

i wont be gaming for a few days but i hope i get it

[high haven]

footage from the streamers really give me that old cod vibes, but with abilities

[rough narwhal]

i really wanna see how it plays now for comparisons

the first test and the 2nd werent close to cod other than being a boots to the ground shooter

[rough narwhal]

event still going, but getting access via drops has ended

[high haven]

i see

shame :<

[brittle portal]

blame the low k/d on the fact that i was afk for some of this match and i was running a TRASH MP5 setup

but bruh why was i on the team with literally the best players in the world

[weak hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-moment-gif-23616422

[high haven]

you got carried

[brittle portal]

yes but i was using a trash MP5 setup and i was AFK for part of this match

anyway, the lightweight stock for the Vector is literally just a brace, that's funny to me.

[rough narwhal]

no sbmm

[brittle portal]

understandable

[rough narwhal]

honestly, if xdefiant stays with no sbmm, people are gonna start understanding why devs put it in their games

of course people will have preference of no sbmm and that wont change, but the people that just ignorantly shit on it will likely experience shit matches on a constant basis (especially if they are a below average player) and be upset

[brittle portal]

but hey, SBMM will be in Ranked play if you care about that.

I just happen to like it not existing in casual matches.

[high haven]

@rough narwhal steel series gg is also giving away keys it seems

[rough narwhal]

yea thats the way to do it to give people options

itd be interesting to see if they ever release the data of people playing ranked vs casual

[summer furnace]

they are free to play ranked

[high haven]

yo whois, you could've also just invited us to play 😠 xd

[rough narwhal]

of course, i still believe it will highlight the problems people dont think of when they shit on sbmm though

because they will actually be able to experience it and likely get consistently shit on

[brittle portal]

of course you can still believe that, and i will continue to not care

[brittle portal]

i could've but i didn't think about it

plus it'd just be you

[rough narwhal]

if you think anything in my comments was directed towards you it wasnt

so not sure what that last comment was about

[brittle portal]

So far my favorite modes are Domination and Occupy.

[rough narwhal]

awesome, thanks for the reminder, this is true

[brittle portal]

I've not played the other two.

Shame this beta doesn't have a TDM mode but i guess that'll be in the full game.

[summer furnace]

I get that it's because of tryhards
but that's another story

[brittle portal]

tryhards, or anyone that just happens to be better, but doesn't wanna use meta weapons constantly.

[rough narwhal]

bs number, but id argue at least 60% of players will likely complain about no sbmm at some point saying they just got unlucky

[brittle portal]

hm. i think the game's stuck.

[summer furnace]

sbmm further reinforces these things instead of toning them down
a varied skill pool in a match is good
and there's team balance that happens after the lobby gets full

before the match starts

[rough narwhal]

i wouldnt call it good, i would think a genuine sbmm system would be ideal/better

granted i come from a pure performance/competitive point of view

so using meta, try harding, using coms, etc etc is just my way of gaming in general

so having to "be on" at all times isnt a concern for me

[brittle portal]

nothing wrong with tryharding/using meta, but not everyone is like that, some people don't wanna have to do that literally all of the time just to be able to play the game.

which is an issue that CoD's SBMM system causes.

[rough narwhal]

technically, if someone wants to play casual all the time the sbmm will attribute to that

im just consistently try harding

[brittle portal]

yeah but it doesn't attribute between a decent player using the meta and tryharding for a bit and then wanting to calm down a bit and use off meta stuff.

because it'll still put those players in the same lobbies as they would've gotten if they were still using the meta/tryharding.

[rough narwhal]

well yea, thats impossible to account for

[brittle portal]

yeah and that's annoying, wanting to not have to tryhard and use off meta stuff but you just get tossed into lobbies where that's All That Happens

[rough narwhal]

its annoying that its impossible to account for people changing their desires on the whim?

[brittle portal]

it's annoying that there's a system that makes it impossible to actually play the game the way you want to at any given time, unless you happen to have a second account with much lower stats.

[rough narwhal]

actually viable since xdefiant is f2p

[brittle portal]

yeah but unnecessary since why would you do that if casual matchmaking doesn't have SBMM in the first place

[rough narwhal]

i just hope they clearly define that casual has no sbmm and ranked does in game

[brittle portal]

That's already confirmed by Mark Rubin.

[rough narwhal]

well thats good

[rough narwhal]

i wasnt suggesting to do that with xdefiant given casual is open play

just saying that if there was a game to have sbmm overall that you could have 2 accounts for is a f2p title

[brittle portal]

yeah but it's annoying to have to switch accounts, tho.

[rough narwhal]

minor annoyance for a niche problem that some people will have and want to remedy

[brittle portal]

anyway i'm back in the game, i'm gonna try the M44.

[rough narwhal]

ffs is there gonna be a vote map system?

[brittle portal]

me when i see Times Square(it's a The Division reference): :O

[brittle portal]

yes

2 maps, and a random option

[rough narwhal]

be prepared to play the same 5 maps 90% of the time

[brittle portal]

i've not minded the maps so far

[rough narwhal]

im sure over time that people will select the same ones over and over

which i even like to play mediocre maps, even if its just to appreciate the good ones

[brittle portal]

plus, i've never seen the Escort maps before

I think they might be unique for this mode?

Also, Escort is like Overwatch. You push the cart.

you stop the other team from pushing the cart.

it's okay.

Also, the invisiblity ability really sucks if you're a sniper

because it makes your reticle invisible

and that makes aiming difficult

groundbreaking discoveries here

[elfin lark]

I find that somewhat humorous

[brittle portal]

also the M44 is fine.

reloads really slowly tho

[elfin lark]

They have a mosin?

[brittle portal]

yes

[elfin lark]

Game of the year

[elfin lark]

Oh god

Can you use iron sights on it?

[brittle portal]

Muzzle Booster
Rapid Fire
CQBSS 8x Scope
Quick Draw
Light Weight stock

[brittle portal]

No you cannot.

[elfin lark]

Oh no

[brittle portal]

tbh i'm fine with this concept, it's in the sniper rifle category.

now i'm gonna try out the Vector.

alright, Zone Control.

I wonder what this is.

[rough narwhal]

iirc smgs and vector used to be shit unless sub 10m, how are they now?

[brittle portal]

i still get outgunned by AR's

if that answers your question.

Zone Control is basically Capture points to unlock other points and capture those.

And most of the other team left.

[rough narwhal]

bleh, i hate when they make smgs have a super niche effective range

[brittle portal]

the P90 and MP7 seem like they're good, i'm getting killed by them a lot.

I helped.

went off a little bit with the Tac-50

sniping is satisfying as shit in this game.

especially considering the movement speed

So far, 7/10, i've not had many issues with this beta, it seems to run well, even without DX12, and i like the gunplay even if i'm not fantastic with it.

[elfin lark]

I must admit i am surprised to hear a high opinion of the game

I wasn’t expecting a whole lot

[polar wren]

It just fills the gaps that most fps games leave out

[brittle portal]

the only issue i'm consistently having is my name being invisible in the scoreboard and killfeed.

which doesn't matter cause it's apparently a cosmetic issue and the devs already know about that.

I still wish the killfeed wasn't in the top right, it should be in the bottom left, where CoD killfeeds are.

oh also, sidenote, this beta doesn't have text chat. I'm almost certain it's planned for the full launch, but it's not in the beta.

[rough narwhal]

same, people were shitting on it from the announcement till this beta

[elfin lark]

Exactly eh

Well hell if it’s good it’s good

[brittle portal]

which is a bit annoying since i can't tell teams that are getting stomped that i'm sorry :(

[rough narwhal]

which at worst, even if it turned out to be a cod clone, its still f2p

so like.. a free cod clone is bad how?

internet be weird

[polar wren]

Content creators like it

Never seen the hate yet but it's probably on twitter

Which I never use because Twitter kills braincells

[brittle portal]

i've seen some hate on the discord

[rough narwhal]

i just know anytime i talked about doing the xdefiant tests people would say the same meme shit

[brittle portal]

although i've seen more people complaining about the slowmode on the discord rather than the game itself

[rough narwhal]

youtube for announcement

[brittle portal]

funny thing that happened on the discord, someone was complaining about the slowmode being on there. I look at their profile cause their profile picture has a certain vibe to it, they're the head admin for a fucking NFT discord, complaining about slowmode on someone else's server. Like bruh, you run a discord. Maybe you haven't ever had over a thousand people in there at once, but you try fucking moderating that many people with like 4 mods.

[polar wren]

Is that newest first

No

That's top

[rough narwhal]

15 min slowmode is dumb though

absolutely no way to hold a convo with that

[brittle portal]

there's like 4-5 mods at most and there's over a thousand people on the server all actively wanting to talk, if there were no slowmode, it would end up looking like twitch chat and would be impossible to read let alone moderate.

[polar wren]

15 minutes