other-games

[sacred iron]

Played monster Hunter 4 on my ds years ago and loved it, but it’s easily going to be several months before it’s playable

[onyx nest]

gold mozambique is strong

[indigo gyro]

Yeah I like it, I will buy it on sale

[onyx nest]

training dummies can now be tryharding in firing range

[wet sage]

That looks dope, I wanna play it again sometime.

[onyx nest]

Meanwhile rockstar releases new garage in gta online

[summer furnace]

https://rockstarintel.com/gta-v-and-red-dead-2-are-off-to-a-hot-start-in-2023

[onyx nest]

all of them on console

on pc people just play modded version

because official gta is unplayable

people always talk shit about ea while rockstar has been most anti consumer pos

easily worst than ea

[summer furnace]

and the most popular
they have obscene loyalty
and their games last a lifetime

[onyx nest]

they had

they already lost PC customers

[summer furnace]

unfortunately only console matters to them

[onyx nest]

i don't really care they can become playstation exclusive for all i care

wouldnt be surprised

i mean sony and rockstar just makes sense

can be anti consumer friends

[sacred iron]

the menu system in RDR2 is enough to convince me of that

it's utterly atrocious, but somehow not as bad as elden ring

[spark oxide]

same as GTA, Rockstar's strong point is not menu design, clearly

[summer furnace]

ai still extremely strong at solo dmz
got killed near the extraction
just when I jump down a ladder height

in ashika

I don't get time to react
just instant fall down

[lucid swift]

aint no fucking way shadow warrior 3 dropped on gamepass

[dim trench]

Too many ai

Now the blue armored fuckers constantly parachute in.

Never stops lol

People said they were gonna make it easier. Nope. Made them smarter and harder and many

I like it tho. Update made game much smoother and polished

[nocturne badge]

AI didn't feel strong, just a lot

at least to me that is

[broken igloo]

What going on with Al Mazrah for Dmz helicopters dropping troopz off like crazy

[nocturne badge]

I think one problem I had is that helicopter dropped troops immediately spotted you, whereas the regular ground troops are usually blind as hell

That or I'm just good at sneaking or something

[empty ivy]

Nvidia photo mode do be kinda cool.

[broken igloo]

I was near the Mall and you had no time to rest just dropping tier 3 after tier 3 after tier 3. We died off pretty fast

[dim trench]

just glad i didnt prepurchase this game that i was exited for .

[elfin lark]

Ah damn

That game looked cool

[lost kelp]

People were exited for it?

Damn

[austere sonnet]

_ _

[dim trench]

arrrgggghhh! game still crashes at the worst times.

[dim trench]

was hoping it'd be the good red dead

[stiff panther]

is red dead not good??

[broken igloo]

Your squad gunna be fuming 😄

[dim trench]

lolol they were telling me jsut to go. but stopped to get them. clicked on anti radation pills, instant crash.

[honest spindle]

Which game is dis?

[broken igloo]

I've used them by mistake but outside radiation lol I just go with the gass mask.

I want to meet the bomb maker on the new DMZ map.

[empty ivy]

Mechwarrior 5. It's been modded with clan mechs.

[honest spindle]

oki oki mechs are pog, thank you way

[empty ivy]

Indeed mechs are fucking awesome.

You can get the game through game pass.

[honest spindle]

i fell in love with mechs because of bf 2142

[empty ivy]

Ye it's why I pay attention to that game hah.

I used to watch my mum play mechwarrior all the time.

Mech 3 and 4.

Hearing those mech sounds.

The big menacing WHIRR everytime you start from 0 KM/H.

[honest spindle]

woah you have a mum who games?

[empty ivy]

https://youtu.be/141M9iU8rR0

Yeah.

My family was heavily into ww2 and ID software games..

[honest spindle]

ngl that looks cool, might buy it

[empty ivy]

That's MWO but yeah.

The art style between 5 and O is similar.

My mum was into more science fiction. So things like doom, mechwarrior and fear. She did also play ww2 games but I only remember that part.

My dad played medal of honour, Wolfenstien, cod, etc.

Actually they both played mechwarrior my point stands.

[honest spindle]

my dad used to play doom and unreal tournament

[empty ivy]

Based.

[stiff panther]

same

ut99 was part of my childhood

[empty ivy]

I wasn't aware about that growing up.

Tonnes of single player games on my part.

@honest spindle

[honest spindle]

damn that looks good, new game to no life?

[empty ivy]

It'll last you a bit.

The story isn't compelling.

And really if you like managing your lance and fighting other mechs it's the perfect game for that.

[honest spindle]

meh i dont really need a story, pew pew boom action always better

[empty ivy]

The lore of mechwarrior is interesting.

But the personal story be kinda eh.

The biggest part of mechwarrior is the start of clan invasion.

The self exiled legacy of the former star league coming back to invade the inner sphere.

That is the coolest part of it.

But there's also the succession wars where houses attempted to take control of the inner sphere which set back technology a few hundred years.

That tech being called lostech being extremely valuable.

Clans having superior technology as a result because that never happened to them.

Just so many intricacies.

[honest spindle]

i see i see

i'll have to look more into it

[empty ivy]

I'm all over the place but it's genuinely interesting.

Mech 5 takes place right before it so it's like. Rip.

[honest spindle]

its okay, its nice to see someone so excited over a game

[empty ivy]

Ye. Growing up with it I've been obsessed over the franchise.

[indigo gyro]

@violet raven https://youtu.be/ZdwxdUOQctc

Here

[next rapids]

Wow new mod colour

[violet raven]

hopefully there won't be more of those jedi killing, galaxy eating frogs lol

[indigo gyro]

I am liking the combos

[violet raven]

they put an end game boss right into the second starting planet

[indigo gyro]

[charred quail]

game reviewers are reviewing atomic heart right now, embargo lifted 20th feb

god I hope it doesn't suck

[brittle portal]

oh okay.

[charred quail]

[nocturne badge]

This game is fun just to mess around with, especially since there's mod support
https://streamable.com/0vgisx

[violet raven]

something tell me the gameplay is going to be janky af

[charred quail]

oh of course it is

[violet raven]

since there's just a lot of stuff going on at once

but idk they could pull a doom eternal-level of gameplay smoothness

[charred quail]

the excessive camera shake and lack of weapon feedback are alarming

[violet raven]

yea lol the part where he does a 360 spin look nauseous

(just like real life)

[brittle portal]

to be fair i feel like there are very few games that actually can do that

[indigo gyro]

I love how smooth titanfall ii and mw19 feels then I also play hunt showdown which feels very weird if you played mw19, titanfall ii first and then switching to hunt showdown

Apex also feels very smooth

Tarkov doesn't feel smooth at all

[brittle portal]

The only game i've actually been playing lately is Get To The Orange Door because i'm a weirdo and i don't feel like playing any multiplayer shooters at the minute.

[violet raven]

so did you make it to the orange door?

[next rapids]

when release

[charred quail]

21st

[next rapids]

oh no

[brittle portal]

yes

[next rapids]

definitely gonna wait for this one

[charred quail]

it's free on gamepass

[next rapids]

oh cool might do that

[brittle portal]

but no seriously GTTOD is a good game. Development on it is a bit of a mess but it's a very fun game.

[charred quail]

kek

[next rapids]

was gonna wait for crack but denuvo

[next rapids]

bruh i thought people liked it what happened

[indigo gyro]

Performance issues

Crashing maybe

[brittle portal]

I have to see the reviews for this

[charred quail]

2-5 FPS happened

[next rapids]

lmao

[indigo gyro]

I like monster Hunter world sooo I will get wild hearts in sale I hope till then they fix the issues

[next rapids]

just play monster hunter

it's better

[charred quail]

this dev is also making Wolong

[charred quail]

oof

[brittle portal]

...Oh hey Returnal is on Steam.

[weak hornet]

Jester Steam Awards

[charred quail]

yep, gonna get returnal next month

[indigo gyro]

That's also true but I like the art style, monsters in wild hearts it's not better but I want to try it

[next rapids]

yes, cracked and repacked within like 30 minutes lmao

i already installed it

very excited

[brittle portal]

I heard people hated this game for some reason

[weak hornet]

That's the case with every game

[next rapids]

i hear the use of haptics is incredible

different depths of trigger press do different things

[brittle portal]

i know but it seemed like that more than usual with Returnal

and i don't know why

[charred quail]

it's too good it won a BAFTA, gamers' favourite game didn't win, they seethed

[brittle portal]

oh ok fair enough

i don't really pay attention to BAFTA's

[indigo gyro]

I know elden ring won goty

[brittle portal]

that's The Game Awards

[indigo gyro]

I haven't seen this emoji

[brittle portal]

I still find it very funny that Modern Warfare 2 lost Best Multiplayer Game to Splatoon 3

[indigo gyro]

[next rapids]

that is really funny

[brittle portal]

absolutely deserved, by the way

[next rapids]

i wish i could play splatoon but i'm not buying a switch and paying a subscription and buying the game just for that

[brittle portal]

yeah same

[weak hornet]

A Nintendo game winning a shooting game award is weird

[brittle portal]

plus i have a switch lite so i don't really wanna wear out the joysticks on it

[weak hornet]

Remember when the Last of Us won like every single award it could?

[charred quail]

their former prime minister lost in a shootout, it's only right they get something in return

[brittle portal]

It did all that and I still don't have a lot of interest in playing it

[indigo gyro]

MiiW didn't won it but its the best multiplayer game I played recently

[weak hornet]

It's a pretty good game

[brittle portal]

...Oh hey The Darkness 2 is like $6 on steam right now.

[weak hornet]

I haven't played Splatoon 3, my daughter has it and is gonna get the upcoming DLCs

[indigo gyro]

Last game I played was miiW campaign, multiplayer warzone and dmz

[brittle portal]

that's a pretty good game

[summer furnace]

do you play it solo or just with friends? @indigo gyro

[weak hornet]

Yeah that's all one game

[brittle portal]

I like that the first phase of the DLC is the Splatoon 1 hub.

[indigo gyro]

I played wzii with friends but dmz alone

[brittle portal]

Phase 2 looks ominous as shit.

[indigo gyro]

It's cool

[weak hornet]

Nintendo doing something weird? Color me surprised

Although I couldn't care less about Hogwarts, I imagine it'll win some kind of award, maybe for Best RPG game or whatever

[charred quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhrpK9IBcnQ

[brittle portal]

probably will, WB has the money.

[weak hornet]

tf is that thumbnail

[next rapids]

levioSAAA

[nocturne badge]

still hope Hifi Rush wins an award of some kind

[indigo gyro]

I hope final fantasy vii rebirth and final fantasy 16 win something too I hope they are great jrpg 🙌

[brittle portal]

Hi-Fi Rush deserves an award.

Just any kind of award, it deserves at least one.

[indigo gyro]

Hogwarts legacy also deserves awards

I hope it win some

[brittle portal]

k

[nocturne badge]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-fi-rush-cat-808-nodding-agreed-gif-27498743

[brittle portal]

Apparently Dead Island 2 is releasing a week earlier than they had initially planned. Like apparently it just went gold.

[indigo gyro]

Then there is zelda ii coming this year

[nocturne badge]

Shit I need to hit the hay, it's 4 AM

[brittle portal]

...You know what i wanna know

[charred quail]

wow a modern day's miracle

[brittle portal]

Where the fuck is the beta for The Finals?

[next rapids]

so it was delayed and then undelayed? very nice

[weak hornet]

You get that at the Finals

[brittle portal]

slightly undelayed

[next rapids]

"early 2023"

[charred quail]

dead island 2 finally not delayed? almost feel like cancer is cured

[brittle portal]

how unspecific.

[next rapids]

looks like it'll be another closed test too

hope i get in

[brittle portal]

like i'm just fuckin bored man i wanna play a thing.

[next rapids]

i feel that

last year had nothing of interest to me other than one exclusive, which i am now playing

[weak hornet]

Well you got yourself

[next rapids]

with a ps5 i've got a bunch of games to keep me busy for a month or two

[indigo gyro]

I need a laptop to play ashika island dmz and dome, and apex tdm

[next rapids]

and once i'm done with games i've finally got other things i want to do

have like 30 manga to read, a bunch of shows to watch with gf and i have a sword

[indigo gyro]

I hope I get my laptop before last of us part I remake

[weak hornet]

Mangos are for eating

[indigo gyro]

[indigo gyro]

funny emoji nice

[nocturne badge]

Oh yeah earlier today I found someone working on adding actual Multiplayer to H3VR

[indigo gyro]

Recon

[charred quail]

oh nice

[nocturne badge]

https://youtu.be/XHG5Woxunw8

[charred quail]

I will get a vr set soon

[nocturne badge]

It's a mod for a completely single player experience so it's a bit funky

[charred quail]

better than bonelab

[nocturne badge]

But it's looking good

[indigo gyro]

[next rapids]

hemp

[nocturne badge]

It's good for your skin or something... ok bed time

[charred quail]

wild hearts gameplay is apparently pretty good, it just runs like dogshit on pc

which gives me some concern about wolong

[summer furnace]

this isn't fair
I thought the battle pass gets unlocked for free
after completing the previous one

[charred quail]

nah, the previous one should give you enough cod point to buy this one though

[summer furnace]

yes i did

[rocky grove]

Spider man 2 this year

[rocky grove]

Funny and to respect thick(Recon Voice actor) who died

[charred quail]

John Cena looks life-like in WWE 2023

[rocky grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bing-gif-25601964

[charred quail]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[graceful blade]

What game is that

[indigo gyro]

Starfield concept art

[graceful blade]

Look dope, I am playing star citizen right now

Really hope Starfield is better

[rocky grove]

Any tactical realistic games worth playing/buying

Was thinking breakpoint but eh

[graceful blade]

have you tried SC?

isnt breakpoint out already?

I thought it came out in 2019

[charred quail]

breakpoint is alright if you turn off the shitty destiny 2-like gear score

[graceful blade]

D2 what a drag

that game sucks lol

[indigo gyro]

You need to believe in Todd bro

[charred quail]

@empty ivy this game looks great but the control is kinda icky

[ripe pike]

You'll buy it ?

[indigo gyro]

G A M E P A S S

[ripe pike]

Ha yeah it's Xbox and PC exclusive

Ngl I really appreciate some Microsoft exclusive games

And I don't appreciate Sony exclusives a lot

[rocky grove]

I think exclusives are dumb all together

[ripe pike]

Yeah it's restrictive, wait till COD becomes Microsoft exclusive

[indigo gyro]

I am happy that it's not ps exclusive

If it was I will have to wait for years

[summer furnace]

it won't be
do you see doom being an exclusive?

[rocky grove]

That won’t happen

How to kill part of the playerbase and game with 1 simple step

[empty ivy]

Ehhh weapon grouping is more annoying but the other ones are fine.

R is good for targeting mechs.

Q and E could be used for group 3 and 4.

[charred quail]

shadow warrior 3 is on gamepass

wowee

[empty ivy]

The game can get very difficult and you need to operate on a positive gain..

General thing.

[charred quail]

I'm not used to the mech movement

[empty ivy]

Lasers are your best friend but they can get hot. Always split them up in the grouping to avoid unnecessary heat waste.

It's odd.

I turn off throttle decay.

[charred quail]

used to play hawken and mech movement in that game was nice

[empty ivy]

Mechwarrior has always controlled like this.

So it's like oh.

How far are you in?

[charred quail]

I've finished the tutorial lmao

I stopped and played vampire survivor for like an hour

[empty ivy]

Fair.

Don't feel disappointed if you're not feeling mech 5. The series has been rather niche.

The game can feel very stacked against you too.

[charred quail]

combat feels nice but the movement is eh, maybe there's a mod that would just make it a regular FPS movement lol

[empty ivy]

Most likely not.

What's the issue with the movement? Just the mechs not feeling responsive?

I've always wondered that.

[charred quail]

the fact that you have to decelerate/accelerate gradually and not instantly makes it feel a bit clunky to me

feels like I'm controlling a mech

[empty ivy]

Thought so.

[ripe pike]

Yeah but i kinda hope it will be bought by Microsoft though so it will force Sony to innovate and maybe invest in their own FPS franchise

[empty ivy]

Yeah I understand that completely.

[ripe pike]

Lol yeah I know, it could be bought by Microsoft though which would be fun to see tbh

[empty ivy]

The mech acceleration aspect can be jarring at first.

Though it's not the hardest to get used to.

[ripe pike]

Way is Fallout NV agood game and moreover, a good Fallout ?

[empty ivy]

Yeah.

Lore wise it's amazing.

[ripe pike]

Should I play Fallout 1 and 2 too ?

[ripe pike]

I was deep into Fallout 3 but changed PC and now it doesn't work anymore

[empty ivy]

If you want to learn about the most important parts of the game yes.

[indigo gyro]

Sony has Bungie

[ripe pike]

Is it dynamic enough, I heard it was a round per round type of combat

[empty ivy]

The start of the NCR. BOS, See it lead to with new vegas being a posthumous presentation of what has happened.

[ripe pike]

Destiny ?

[empty ivy]

Don't need to reply I'm here.

The combat is turn based.

New vegas runs on the same engine as 3.

So it needs the same mods.

[indigo gyro]

Maybe a new game new ip

[rare thorn]

Before I played Fallout 3 I found myself deeply engrossed in the lore of fallout off some random YouTube videos my friend showed me.

[empty ivy]

The lore is good.

[ripe pike]

Way

[empty ivy]

Hello.

[rare thorn]

Also, nice new mod color

[ripe pike]

What do you mean by Fallout NV needs same mods as Fallout 3

[empty ivy]

I might of recommended them to do this.

New vegas runs off the same engine and 3 and as such runs into the same issues with modern hardware.

[ripe pike]

I hope so, Battlefield was once a huge competitor to COD, they should bring back those days

[empty ivy]

You can use vortex to safely install mods.

[ripe pike]

Yeah but Fallout 3 doesn't even launch itself on my PC while Fallout NV does

[empty ivy]

I purely put in stability mods for that purpose..

Weird.

[ripe pike]

Are Fallout NV mods hard to install ?

[empty ivy]

I'm not sure then.

No.

[rare thorn]

Isn’t it like one line of code that prevents Fallout 3 from running properly on Windows 10+?

Funny that bethesda keeps selling it but won’t just hotfix that

[empty ivy]

By the way there's a tale of two wastelands mod which combines both of the games into one package.

[ripe pike]

Fallout 3 is a really good game when it acutally launch

[indigo gyro]

Cod, Titanfall/Apex, Battlefield and Halo

[ripe pike]

What the fuck did you just say ?

[rare thorn]

I play on Xbox. It launches every time for me.

[ripe pike]

Yeah and even Medal of Honor once lol

[empty ivy]

https://youtu.be/IFtez5QmFng

[ripe pike]

I played it on PS5 too but it's locked at 30 fps thanks to Sony

Way which game I need for that please ?

NV or 3 ?

[rare thorn]

Can play it at 60 on Series X I’m pretty sure. And get those quick load times even if it’s not on the SSD

They do black magic over at MS

[indigo gyro]

That game is history feels like

[ripe pike]

Yeah but Sony never update their retro games, like you pay for PS Plus Premium to play old games at 15 fps lol

[indigo gyro]

Poetic are you interested in

[ripe pike]

The modern ones looked fun

[rare thorn]

[rare thorn]

Interested in what?

[indigo gyro]

https://youtu.be/ZdwxdUOQctc

This

[rare thorn]

Nope

Never seen Star Wars in my life

[indigo gyro]

Wowww

[rare thorn]

Just being honest

[empty ivy]

@ripe pike Both.

It's a very big mod.

Cause of course you're putting one game into another.

And the game has to work with that load.

[indigo gyro]

[ripe pike]

Looks like hell to make it function, Fallout 3 doesn't even launch for me so 2 at once looks difficult lol

[rare thorn]

@indigo gyro

Combat-Very good. Better than expected. Enemy count is rather low but it’s kinda like GOW where you see variants of the same enemies and you can master their behavior. Gets confusing sometimes with the amount of spells.

Exploration-It’s perfect. Perfect. Everything, down to the last minute detail. As a HP fan I pointed at the screen like Leo multiple times.

Story- It’s good. But my biggest issue with the game comes into play, in that, the MC doesn’t care at all. His delivery is quite bland and he really comes across as indifferent entirely which goes against the intense story being told.

So yeah. Overall, 8.5

[empty ivy]

Shame about the limited enemies.

I need to reserve 160 dollars for fucking binding of isaac and HL god dammit.

[rare thorn]

There’s a variety. But a lot of them are just variants of eachother. So really there’s like 8-9 different enemies with different styles and attacks. The biggest variety being the dark wizards as there’s a few with different specialties.

[indigo gyro]

Sooo overall you enjoyed it main character is avg hmmmm

But thanks for sharing it

[rare thorn]

Idk how the female voice actor stacks up. But yeah. The dude sounds very uninterested and unphased by anything even if it’s supposed to be a big moment.

But seeing as it’s Avalanche WB’s first game of this magnitude I guess I shouldn’t be expecting Naughty Dog levels of dialogue.

[indigo gyro]

Dialogues are getting weird in recent games

Forspoken people hate that game

[rare thorn]

The fact that the game is even as good as it is, and as fleshed out as it is, is mind blowing. When you consider the devs previous games.

Well. It’s not cringe dialogue. It’s just badly delivered.

[indigo gyro]

like when they speak it feels like a bot is speaking?

[rare thorn]

And I don’t even really know if that’s the VA’s fault. It definitely seems like he read off the page and wasn’t given a lot of context as to the scene.

It’s different to say, performance capture. Where everyone is in the room and they have a scene built out.

They definitely did it the old school way with a much smaller budget.

[indigo gyro]

hmmmm that's why

[rare thorn]

It doesn’t detract really from the game as a whole. But it does make certain story beats harder to empathize with.

[elder plover]

Sheer number of side quests and random characters he has to interact with, it makes a bit of sense that they wouldn't necessarily choose to make sure the va's are all in the same room

[rare thorn]

Oh definitely. I just think perhaps the director didn’t give enough context to each scene.

Cause sometimes dialogue feels very flat when it probably shouldn’t.

[elder plover]

But realistically there aren't many interactions involving more than 3 characters, and mostly it's 1 on 1 conversations

[indigo gyro]

Then it's fine I guess

[elder plover]

So they could have probably figured something out

[rare thorn]

It’s a great game regardless

[elder plover]

Pretty solid review you gave it above, combat/exploration/story.. can't disagree with really any of it

[rocky grove]

The best game

[elder plover]

money over time I've already broken even for sure 😄

[indigo gyro]

Sad that there is lots of hate surrounding it I am happy for the game that it actually is doing great

[brittle portal]

i mean it's not like it's totally unwarranted, to be fair.

[rare thorn]

The fact that it has come out. And aside from some PC optimization, it’s a very solid, relatively bug free, not a broken mess game. Made by developers who have never made a game even slightly close to it in scale. On a franchise that in the past has definitely money grabbed game fans. It’s a miracle it came to be as good as it is

Which, goes to show that if given enough time and budget. You can just let game devs do great shit.

[indigo gyro]

That's true but I know some real sad game development story and they had both

[rare thorn]

Super happy for them too. Every video or interview, or even stream. They seem incredibly passionate about the IP and were dead set on making the perfect HP game they could. I’m very happy that it’s selling insanely well. I hope they all get huge bonuses and feel great about this game forever.

[brittle portal]

except for troy leavitt, who i wish a very go to hell

[indigo gyro]

Dude was the lead designer sooo nope I don't want anyone to go to hell

[brittle portal]

Well I do, and not just because he worked on Hogwarts Legacy.

[rare thorn]

I didn’t even know who that was until just now

Seems he got sacked anyway

[brittle portal]

nah he just left voluntarily after the controversy came out. WB knew about what he did and just, didn't care.

He claims it had nothing to do with it, but I think that's a load of bullshit.

[indigo gyro]

you don't need to you played the game which was meant for entertainment purpose

👍

[brittle portal]

been watching some gameplay of Ground Branch. I feel like the enemy AI is very dumb.

[charred quail]

correct

[indigo gyro]

@ripe pike https://youtu.be/g7e3xMR671E

[charred quail]

Polygon decided to go to war against gamers
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/23603142/hogwarts-legacy-review-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobic-ps5-pc-xbox

[brittle portal]

someone had to

[bright urchin]

i dont get it why are these "game journalist" siding with ppl that are barely gamers lol

its almost like they dont know who gamers really are

[brittle portal]

This is a good article though.

[charred quail]

yup

[brittle portal]

If i had one criticism of it, it's that it mentions Rowling's transphobia but it doesn't mention the antisemetism that is present in both the novels as well as in the game's story.

which i feel is something that is left out way too much when talking about this.

Though it does mention how the story is a bit weird

and character motivations are odd

[bright urchin]

usually when it comes to that i dont really care if it is a fantasy setting, if we start to critizes what authors are allowed to depict it will hider their creative freedoms. i think people are moral enough to know anti semitism or any sort of anti behavior is moraly reprihesible

[charred quail]

"quell the goblin rebellion!"
"what are they rebelling against?"
"goblin slavery!"

Gamers always win

[brittle portal]

I donno when someone creates a magical creature that resembles jewish caricatures that are actively enslaved in the setting and the story is about you trying to stop a rebellion that's happening because of said slavery, that's just a bit weird, you know?

[bright urchin]

here the thing tho if you read into the lore of harry potter the wizardkind isnt entirely at fault, the tension between wizard and goblin is caused by a difference is ideology

[brittle portal]

yes as are most conflicts.

[bright urchin]

goblins think items purchased isnt owned but borrowed, this caused a great war back in the day when the goblin king wanted the sword of grinfindor back from godrick and they tried to kill him for it, this caused wizards to regulate gobins

[brittle portal]

"New Labour was a facet of neoliberalism; J.K. Rowling is a neoliberal. Her resistance to change, her lack of interest in cultures other than her own, her classism, and her many anti-trans remarks all flow from this same tributary, and her creative output comes from there, too." It's also entirely possible that this might not be at least malicious on her part. She just doesn't care.

which isn't as bad i guess but is still a bit shitty considering she just rips other cultures and puts like, barely any effort into integrating them into the setting she made

[bright urchin]

honestly more likely she just doesn't care, like i mentioned before i dont really critize how an author constructs their world, if we start limiting what authors can and cannot write about it just bad for everyone

[brittle portal]

But considering the story in Legacy is not written by Rowling and the lead game designer was an alt-right asshat, well...

[bright urchin]

lead game designer and creative director is two different roles

[brittle portal]

I imagine he had some input on the story, though.

[bright urchin]

pretty sure lead game designer is more focused on technical aspects

[bright urchin]

well yea but their arent probably resposible for the art direction or the majority of the story

[brittle portal]

Why is it wrong to criticize something, though? Personally if my culture was taken by some rich person in the UK and then bastardized because the person writing it didn't give enough of a shit to do research, it would be a little bit annoying.

[bright urchin]

i dont critize it because its a work of fiction, just like how i dont critize movies depicting acts of torture or slavery

i know its not real and thus i dont care

[brittle portal]

Something being fiction does not mean it can't be criticized, though.

[indigo gyro]

you have brain

Some don't

[austere sonnet]

_ _

Ngl gotta agree with Sage

[bright urchin]

i mean people are free to critize anything i just dont want to limit an authors creative freedom

like if a book starts to talk about how some group of ppl should be enslaved and such, thats where i draw the line but if its a setting that has slavery and has no ties to the real world i dont see how it matter honestly

[austere sonnet]

Plus adds more to the story

[bright urchin]

true, a black and white story is a borring story, i always liked stories where the MC has both good and bad in them

[austere sonnet]

ngl really wanna say something off topic but that’ll be too spicy

But will say it’s alright to have chaos in a lore

[brittle portal]

it just takes place in the fictional setting of Britain against sentient creatures that bear great resemblance to Jewish caricatures, it's entirely fictional and i guess not worth criticizing, because there is absolutely nothing weird about this particular set of decisions, and the decision to just stick with them for multiple books in a row at all. To be frank, you wouldn't recognize a metaphor if it hit you in the head with a basketball. I can understand not wanting a black and white story, but to be frank, the story could've been so much more interesting if the significant issues the Wizarding World has were taken more seriously instead of just being treated as normal and there's no reason or desire to change it. Hell, even one of the characters is opposed to the slavery of house elves, but they're treated like a Soapbox Sadie in the setting. The setting does not care to solve it's own problems.

[indigo gyro]

Story is sooooooooooo interesting that it made jk Rowling second most richest writer

[austere sonnet]

can’t wait for jk to say that Romania somehow look like vampires in the wizard world

[charred quail]

JKR is a capital G Gamer

Alex Jones is pretty rich, even after declaring bankruptcy he's still spending about 100,000$ a month.

Money = guilt-free

Alex Jones best man alive, once again

[brittle portal]

i can't say what i wanna say or i'd get muted again

[austere sonnet]

So in a way it’ll be fair if it isn’t set in earth where there’s actual places

ngl tho I totally want to see Voldemort allying himself with the German leader in ww2

[bright urchin]

its part of the story, just like how after the harry potter books there was a movement in the ministry of magic to free houseelvs from servitude and get rights but the house elves themselves rejected it because its part of who they are, like i said its BS but its fiction and thus part of the story

[brittle portal]

fuckin cop out

[austere sonnet]

plus who knows the house elves will probably want to strike again in 2020

[brittle portal]

doubt it, the Wizarding World seems to have a very strict status quo and it doesn't even change that much when the novels end.

[indigo gyro]

A very interesting story by her, list is sooooooooooo beautiful

in uk

[brittle portal]

are you actually going to contribute to the discussion dudu, or are you just gonna go on about how she has money.

[austere sonnet]

But in Harry Potter 8 it’s set in 1988 tho

[brittle portal]

because yes i know she has money i'm not stupid but i don't care about that

[austere sonnet]

Things could change between 1988 to 2020 in wizard world

[indigo gyro]

She is an amazing writer

[brittle portal]

I firmly disagree with that viewpoint

[indigo gyro]

She is an amazing writer that's why her books sold that much and that's what made her rich

[austere sonnet]

so your telling me the Irish wouldn’t double down and do Terror attacks on hogwarts because they are British

[indigo gyro]

Liking or disliking her work is subjective

Not everyone going to love it

I know

That

[brittle portal]

okay but i still disagree with that viewpoint, I feel like she got a lot of her sales from children and people that can't really critically analyze media at all ever.

[indigo gyro]

I disagree what you say, you can always disagree with what I say

No issues at all

[austere sonnet]

wizard world in 2200

[brittle portal]

okay but you keep bringing up the same thing over and over. you're not adding anything new to the conversation.

[indigo gyro]

You bring same thing over and over too

[brittle portal]

like i wrote a whole ass paragraph about my issues with how the story plays out in regards to the house elves/goblin slavery, and your only response was "She has money tho"

like yes, thanks for that, we know that, it's not like you haven't said that at least 7 times.

[indigo gyro]

She is an amazing writer she has money and I love her work that's all

[brittle portal]

Yes. We know that.

You seem very keen to tell us that.

[charred quail]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[bright urchin]

i mean honestly it makese sense why the main quest of the game is a goblin reblion we are in a period of time before dumbledore, grinderwald, the guy without a nose, etc so i makes sense they went with goblins

[indigo gyro]

I will say what I want

You say what you want

[bright urchin]

what else they gonna do other than a goblin rebion

[brittle portal]

never said you couldn't

[austere sonnet]

an ogre rebellion

[bright urchin]

are ogres even sentient in lore?

[austere sonnet]

Idk

[brittle portal]

I still think the whole "someone is trying to end slavery but that's bad because the slaves wanna be slaves" thing is a bit of a major cop out and very annoying from a setting and conflict perspective.

[austere sonnet]

I mean I guess you can use their strength for good old hard labor

[tranquil gull]

No hard labor in the Wizarding world. Everyone is lazy

[austere sonnet]

I mean there’s dwarfs that we can enslave to make them mine ores or so something

[tranquil gull]

They swish the wand to build their house

[austere sonnet]

[bright urchin]

actually there are magic ppl who cant use magic so they still have to do hard labor i their their called squibs lol

[charred quail]

farmers still farm with their hands tho

[austere sonnet]

You mean peasants stuff

[charred quail]

no magic for the poor farmers

[austere sonnet]

Real chads use house elves

[bright urchin]

i mean if they know magic they can enchant the plow with magic and it will farm itself

[charred quail]

nah the farmers in HL have to farm themselves, while their magic scarecrow dabs on them

[austere sonnet]

To begin with where’s the dark elves tho

[brittle portal]

...That image is incredibly funny actually

[bright urchin]

their busy trying to turn the universe dark using an infinity stone

[austere sonnet]

sounds rather sussy

[charred quail]

it is literally in the game lol, there's a farm on the map with a bunch of people doing hard labors while the scarecrow just starts dabbing randomly

[bright urchin]

lol

[austere sonnet]

breh

[bright urchin]

goty

[tranquil gull]

I want Hogwarts 1920 where the Irish Students take matters

[brittle portal]

bruh

[austere sonnet]

https://youtu.be/Oz4vbtD4UB8

[bright urchin]

can you imagine hogwarts during the great war lol

imagine battlefiled 1 but with magic wands

just starts spamming avada kedava

[brittle portal]

I thought this game took place in the 1800s what the hell

[tranquil gull]

It does

1890s

[brittle portal]

then why's this scarecrow hitting the dab

[bright urchin]

late 1800 proabbly close to 1890s

[austere sonnet]

This truly isn’t lore friendly the dab was invented in the 2000s

[tranquil gull]

They're magic.

[brittle portal]

i'm not really mad about it, it's just weird

[austere sonnet]

I call blasphemy

[bright urchin]

we dont know that their magic folk they might have invented it centuries ago

[indigo gyro]

Where is that korami dab emoji what was the name

[austere sonnet]

[indigo gyro]

Kromia

My bad

[austere sonnet]

Best lass

[tranquil gull]

Hogwarts horror where all the magically animated objects gain sentience

And realize they hate being tools

[brittle portal]

That's just Beauty and The Beast.

[bright urchin]

i would love it if the devs give us a secret boss fight where if you hit a suit of armor 100 times it starts turning into a dark souls type boss lol

[tranquil gull]

Well just make them murderous

[austere sonnet]

Ngl tho wtf did the wizards do during ww1 and ww2 and to an extent Cold War

[bright urchin]

nothing lol

[austere sonnet]

like we need to clear some things there

[austere sonnet]

I call bullshit

[tranquil gull]

The Wizarding ministry pussed out

[charred quail]

nothing apparently

[austere sonnet]

Voldemort will truly join the German leader

[charred quail]

they can't win against guns

[tranquil gull]

Only a few wizards took part

[charred quail]

how are they supposed to win against rifles lmao

[bright urchin]

if they did get themselves involved great war would have ended lol just aperate to germany and avada kedava germany

[tranquil gull]

Individuals

[bright urchin]

ez win

[tranquil gull]

Everyone else pussed out because "fuck muggles and their affairs"

[austere sonnet]

I still say bullets can kill a wizard

[tranquil gull]

Casual racism

[charred quail]

my wand is called a handgun and it has one spell, "kill"

[austere sonnet]

Ez clap

[charred quail]

no chanting needed

[austere sonnet]

just like how a Jedi or sith will loose against a buckshot

[brittle portal]

to be fair "fuck muggles" is like 90% of their policy, they don't give much of a shit about 'em.

[tranquil gull]

Imagine if guns were in the naruto universe. They just doing hand signs and you pop them with 9mm

[bright urchin]

honestly if avada kedava is considered a powerfull dark magic, so is my glock with 9mm metal projectiles

[austere sonnet]

apparently they do have guns

Iirc

[indigo gyro]

[tranquil gull]

They do?

[austere sonnet]

Or I think that was avatar

Idk

[indigo gyro]

Lad

[brittle portal]

guns apparently do exist in the Star Wars universe. I don't remember what the people who use them are called.

[austere sonnet]

I’m pretty sure they both have guns

[brittle portal]

leadslingers or something?

[austere sonnet]

Leadslingers does sound reasonable

[tranquil gull]

Slugthrower

[indigo gyro]

Yeah I also think so

[brittle portal]

close enough

[bright urchin]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Slugthrower

[austere sonnet]

saw nothing

[tranquil gull]

Ah yes my Arab space musket

[bright urchin]

why the empire didnt start using regular guns idk lol

gl trying to deflect molten metal

[austere sonnet]

Too cost effective

[tranquil gull]

Because lasers are better for economics and just all around death

Slugthrowers to be used against jedi

Try blocking this buckshot

[austere sonnet]

like imagine supplying your billion or who the fuck knows how many storm troopers there are

[bright urchin]

i mean but why dont han solo use a regular gun, if he runs into a jedi or a sith he could just 1 tap em u know

[austere sonnet]

probably doesn’t like the feel of them

[tranquil gull]

Honestly he already modified his pistol to be illegal as fuck in firepower

[bright urchin]

yea lol

u know if regular guns isnt SCIFI enough for them just give them railguns lol

it clear the blasters can have basicly unlimited energy lol

[austere sonnet]

we can’t let the terrorist have rail guns in Star Wars lad

just think how badly the empire will be effective

Some lad with a rail gun exploding their shit

[bright urchin]

true lol

[tranquil gull]

They still need energy packs, but soon they'll advance to the 40k era and just need to toss their gun into a campfire to power it up

[austere sonnet]

ngl tho not get political but the empire actually seemed pog

[tranquil gull]

They did bring peace

[bright urchin]

empire wanted order

[tranquil gull]

Then those rebels showed up

[austere sonnet]

they straight up gave jobs to everyone and made an only 1 currency

[bright urchin]

ppl just love anarchy

[brittle portal]

anarchy is cool

[austere sonnet]

but having stability is cooler

[tranquil gull]

Rebel alliance killed a billion civilian workers on the death star

Hypocrisy

[brittle portal]

wasn't the death star gonna blow up a planet or some shit

i've never seen star wars

[austere sonnet]

it only had a million people

[brittle portal]

:I

[tranquil gull]

A planet harboring rebels and running an arms business

[brittle portal]

yeah okay

[austere sonnet]

Plus it was also small

[brittle portal]

"YOU CAN'T BLOW UP OUR THING YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST LET US BLOW UP YOUR THING >:("

[austere sonnet]

[brittle portal]

"FUCKING HYPOCRITES"

[austere sonnet]

ngl tho the best thing I can think of is that they should’ve atleast to try blow or bombed an imperial planet

[brittle portal]

...and let them blow up an entire planet with a big fuck off laser?

When they could just blow up the laser?

[austere sonnet]

did you know the legendary pod racer was in the Death Star

[brittle portal]

I'd hate to be on whatever team you do strategies for.

[tranquil gull]

Honestly I would have rather seen the Yuzahn Vong than the first order in the new trilogy

[austere sonnet]

The kamikaze strategies can never go wrong

And then I’ll get fired from doing strategies or probably in-prisoned or shot in the shot

_ _

Ngl tho it’s about sending a message

[tranquil gull]

Fun fact about the death star, the gunner was actually very regretful and kept on delaying his order hoping to be destroyed before pulling the trigger

In the final battle

[austere sonnet]

Ngl tho it would really suck to be the lad to launch the laser

[tranquil gull]

Oh yeah no he fucking felt that shit

[austere sonnet]

Like image the therapy that he’ll need

Probably gets paid the best tho

getting paid good but at the cost of feeling like shit

Actually now that I think about it why couldn’t they put a Droid there

[brittle portal]

hey it's just like being a drone pilot

[tranquil gull]

If you think of it like a video game you can avoid the therapy

[austere sonnet]

But he’s built indifferent tho

[brittle portal]

I had a friend who used to pilot drones.

He then played Spec Ops: The Line, and now doesn't pilot drones anymore.

[austere sonnet]

Like imagine what your coworkers are thinking about you

like some of them probably had families on that planet

[tranquil gull]

Ah, too much tax from maintaining this planet

Let's just get rid of it

[austere sonnet]

Ngl atleast they could’ve drained it out of it resources

[indigo gyro]

https://youtu.be/ZdwxdUOQctc

I am hyped

🙌 🙌

[next rapids]

row ragnarok finished at 31h 51m

what a thoroughly enjoyable game

can't wait to see where they go next

[indigo gyro]

I am waiting⏳

🥲

[next rapids]

it'll be worth the wait

genuinely just a fantastic game

played it almost every day and didn't get close to bored a single time

and there's like an entire half of a map that's completely optional, it's insane

[indigo gyro]

Yeah that's rare

[indigo gyro]

Because I love the old one and they have made everything better I know I am going to love it too

[next rapids]

yeah 100%

[indigo gyro]

I want to see remake of old God of war games

[next rapids]

they don't necessarily do anything insane or crazy for a sequel, it's just a flat improvement on the first game in every area

[next rapids]

that would be a crazy project

[indigo gyro]

Yeah that's cool
I saw some locations
Game art is soooo beautiful

[next rapids]

it really is

there are two areas in particular that are absolutely jaw dropping

[indigo gyro]

I like the one that is like being in space

[next rapids]

damn you already saw that

[next rapids]

that's like the last new area you visit

[indigo gyro]

It appeared in trailer kato

[next rapids]

that's dumb

it's really cool seeing it the first time

i'm glad i went in blind

[indigo gyro]

Yeah they spoiled it themselves

[next rapids]

honestly why i don't really watch trailers for story games i'm super excited about

[indigo gyro]

Yeah I also don't want to watch them but I also want to see how it looks so I watch them without sound

[summer furnace]

when i replay games I do that with no music
raw sound effects are underrated

[next rapids]

some horror games are really good without music

stuff like dead space

[indigo gyro]

[summer furnace]

dudu when he's not into horror

[indigo gyro]

It's a final fantasy character
Known as moogle and it only say one word "kupo"

[summer furnace]

I'm surprised it's not a monster that eats my head off

[indigo gyro]

It's a chill creature

[summer furnace]

totally

[merry shadow]

moogles

[charred quail]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/fishing-season-bassmaster-more

[brittle portal]

YEAH FISHING

[charred quail]

fucken FISHING

WOO

[worthy helm]

https://www.ign.com/articles/next-civilization-game-officially-announced-by-firaxis

real pog hours

[spark oxide]

VI is like- £4 on Steam

[worthy helm]

you werent lying. 2k sale dummy thicc

[elfin lark]

Running around with no weapons is surprisingly fun in dmz

No real sense of losing anything

Lmao managed to sneak up behind someone and takedown them

[dim trench]

finalyl home from work. uuuu know what that means

https://tenor.com/view/dmz-get-on-dmz-warzone-get-on-warzone-modern-warfare2-gif-27119914

[elfin lark]

So boozer tell me, you got any dmz tips?

You seem to be fairly decent

[dim trench]

dont die

[brittle portal]

Here’s a tip: uninstall the game

[elfin lark]

A man of my style of tips

[stiff panther]

why

[wet sage]

How to play warzone: don't

[elfin lark]

Got killed by a goddamn flashbang

God what the fuck happened to me

I wont claim to have been the best at mw19 but im getting my shit kicked in quite a bit on mw22

Ok after fucking up some of the easiest shots of my life i’m thinking i am just having a bad day right now

Either that or im coping

[worthy helm]

[elfin lark]

I tell you man i don’t understand it

[onyx nest]

There’s currently a bug where you can kill with flash bangs for some reason

[elfin lark]

I used to be able to run around like a crack head and do pretty good, now im just getting ass fucked half the time

[elfin lark]

Funny, i got killed by one of em

[onyx nest]

I saw a clip of a streamer guy doing it several times, first he cracks their armor with a sniper headshot then just tosses one out and calls it a day

Quite an interesting yet strange bug tbh

[austere sonnet]

Possible seizure kills on characters

[onyx nest]

[austere sonnet]

Truly it’s not a bug but a feature
-Todd Howard

[dim trench]

too bad. i was really hopeful for this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84A6cACFVkk

[worthy helm]

yeah i saw the reviews were making it sound clunky. imm wait for some youtube vids before i buy

[tribal sinew]

its saturday monin

just noticed my witcher 3 game updated to some next gen update, now im worried i cant run it anymore 😄

[indigo gyro]

Have you finished it?

[tribal sinew]

not yet

played like 35 hours or something but somehow did not continue

good game tho

[indigo gyro]

Happens with RPGs

You left playing few week then you loose interest

Not always the case

[wet sage]

Open world fatigue is a thing

Maybe I should get into city planning games or something idk something different entirely

I was playing uno but the app is broken now

[summer furnace]

same as conquest mode

[wide quartz]

Fortnite?

[wet sage]

I dont like building and br

Bf heroes 2, now that would have been good

[wet sage]

I suppose so

[wide quartz]

Heligoland bight

[brittle portal]

So, American McGee released the design bible for Alice: Asylum. I can't post a link to it without the server having a fit so look it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STP_Fm9nfO4 In it, they also have a link to animated HUD concepts that are very cool and i like them a lot

[frank oasis]

i actually didnt play fortnite before they introduced no-build mode haha

with no-build its a bit goofy game but not bad

[wide quartz]

Fortnite or PUBG

[frank oasis]

in my humble opinion
Solo play - Fortnite
Squad play - PUBG

[indigo gyro]

I love open world if it is lively and not empty, beautiful areas to explore its not bad but open world Games rarely get it done right

[charred quail]

Starfield discord bot flags everything starfield related as "leak" or misinformation it's hilarious

[brittle portal]

Starfield is a game. You can play it. [Deleted for misinformation]

[austere sonnet]

It just works
[Deleted for misinformation]

[charred quail]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-heart-gif-25861082

[dim trench]

is that real life?

[brittle portal]

This just looks like a FNAF jumpscare not gonna lie

[austere sonnet]

Just post that in a fnaf server and see how they react

[charred quail]

I think you automatically go on a watchlist if you join the fnaf server

[indigo gyro]

@next rapids @summer furnace

[charred quail]

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/unreal-military-game-assets-software
somebody send this to the OHD devs so they can finally make a good game

[charred quail]

Least controversial OHD modder

[lost kelp]

Check hoi4 ones

[indigo gyro]

https://youtu.be/YNGvXjjat5U

https://youtu.be/ANXmnnV1Lbw

[high haven]

whats ohd?

[charred quail]

Operation harsh doorstop

Stupid name, I know

[lost kelp]

Random ass words

[tribal sinew]

random ass

[austere sonnet]

Oh honey donut

[nocturne badge]

It's very open source which is only cool if the community takes advantage of it

The base game is alright, but I'm not touching multiplayer until there's some basic anti cheat

For a free game it's tolerable

[charred quail]

playing it now makes your pc vulnerable to malwares, so don't

[austere sonnet]

What game are we talking about

[charred quail]

operation harsh doorknob

[onyx nest]

new season new glitch in apex, people getting massive minus RP randomly

[austere sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

It literally be like that

[sacred iron]

I guess I'm not playing that then...

I'd enjoy elden ring more if it didn't have this dodge delay

but I guess if that's how souls games are designed I just need to get used to it

[high haven]

quick impression, putting the game's content on modder's shoulders is a really bad idea. i've seen that spiel with various other indie project and it just never ends up well. it always goes to quick remakes of shit (cough dust2) and then quickly fizzle out.

[brittle portal]

The only things i've seen done with OHD in terms of modding so far are CoD Zombies, and just making the game into call of duty, hitmarkers and everything.

[uneven igloo]

Bf 3042?

[shut wigeon]

Me getting hat trick in gears many years ago

[dim trench]

these guys had a very spacious bathroom. msut be rich

[lost kelp]

Standing toilet doesn't make it look rich

[dim trench]

finally unlocked the iso hamlock. not a bad gun

[elfin lark]

Looks pretty sexy

[summer furnace]

how hard it is to progress the battle pass
playing day and night?

[spark oxide]

they're not designed like that butthey're just clunky, one of the most clunky games out there

[charred quail]

Not hard, boring

[summer furnace]

as being so long yes

[elfin lark]

Do i have to bring the mw22 devs to a range just to show them how a fucking shotgun works?

Like i get you cant give em a crap ton of range for balancing but this is fucking ridiculous

[brittle portal]

what's wrong now

[elfin lark]

I tried to use a shotgun on someone more than kissing range

[brittle portal]

lol

[charred quail]

Slugs are also very inaccurate

[elfin lark]

I understand its balancing, but for fucks sake its a pump action shotgun

[brittle portal]

this guy clearly hasn't got the shotgun set up properly

[elfin lark]

Yeah i sure dont, just barely started using it

[brittle portal]

lmao

[indigo gyro]

Bro level it up

Miiw is rpg

[brittle portal]

or alternatively: don't and just use something else

[elfin lark]

Yeah im bloody trying, aint the easiest when the bullets damn near disappear when the enemy is further than 5 meters

I think i would do more damage if i threw my gun at them

[indigo gyro]

We need that feature

In dmz and war zone you can drop gun not in multiplayer

[elfin lark]

I shouldnt have to level up a gun just to make it useable

[onyx nest]

I heard shotguns were nerfed for hipfire in the season 2 update

[brittle portal]

good

[onyx nest]

I couldn’t be sure if it’s true though

[elfin lark]

Im not expecting top of the line performance but fucking hell

[onyx nest]

but you will

Muh player retention strategies man

[elfin lark]

Yeah if that aint the truth

[brittle portal]

I still think the marksman rifles are cringe

[indigo gyro]

But unlocking the attachments are the fun part

[elfin lark]

Hey how do we balance shotguns guys? Oh how bout we make em useless past 5 meters till you get them nice and levelled up

Levelled up with 2 l’s just looks wrong

[brittle portal]

I have an answer to that question: Don't. Just don't have them in the game at all.

[summer furnace]

they're not used irl combat so that's not a stretch

[indigo gyro]

In irl situation your team(enemy team) fought with my team

With f2000

[brittle portal]

They're not fun to play against, they're impossible to balance in a way that isn't annoying or blatantly busted, and it removes any possible skill gap in engagements where they're involved because they can just kill someone instantly. So, why have them in the game at all.

[indigo gyro]

Lad just said his shotgun isn't killing anyone in kissing range

[brittle portal]

dudu i realize reading is not your strong suit but that is not what he said. He said he has to be in kissing distance to kill.

he's complaining about distance

[onyx nest]

Well I mean English isn’t their first language so some confusion is bound to occur

[brittle portal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[onyx nest]

Unless you’re also tying in some past instances with them but I dunno anything bout that so

[indigo gyro]

Thanks bro

But I love shotgun

They become useless if the enemy is far away

[onyx nest]

The dissent to keeping them sorta makes sense but at the same time the idea of an fps game like battlefield or CoD without shotguns just doesn’t make sense (to me, at least)

[brittle portal]

it makes sense to me.

[indigo gyro]

Even slug will not save you in game because fire rate is slow and it will require more bullet to kill someone in game

So shotgun can't kill someone instantly if they are far

[summer furnace]

the chance to do that with one bullet is still a thing
and not fair apparently

[indigo gyro]

This thing was cool in bfi

The thumbnail is perfect

[stiff panther]

slugs were disappointing in MWII 😦 I still find shotguns fun though

[brittle portal]

It removes any and all skill from close quarters encounters because you can just delete someone instantly. It's just annoying.

[indigo gyro]

Shotgun is fun

I don't get annoyed very easily

[elfin lark]

Goddamn brother you did me dirty there lmao

[brittle portal]

they weren't talking about you they were talking about dudu

[elfin lark]

Ah i see lol

[onyx nest]

Oh yea I meant du lol

[indigo gyro]

[summer furnace]

Well shotguns are normalised because they appeared in old games too
and if they can't inherently be balanced, they should remove them in future games

[stiff panther]

I often wish they were removed from Hunt Showdown lol

[indigo gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/no-god-of-war-kratos-atreus-gif-23325577

Shotgun is must for any fps

[brittle portal]

Like, I cannot see a downside to not having them in the game.

[elfin lark]

I will accept shotgun removal so long as they give us a pump action rifle

[indigo gyro]

Which one annoyed you or all of them annoyed you

[brittle portal]

why?

[elfin lark]

Pump actions are cool

[brittle portal]

eh

[charred quail]

Pump

[stiff panther]

to be clear, I wouldn't actually remove shotguns if given the choice, but I'm tempted to ask for all of them to be gone lol

[elfin lark]

And a pump action rifle would certainly be different

[stiff panther]

it would be cool

[indigo gyro]

UMP, TAR, ACR, Intervention, Barrett,, AA-12, Spas 12, AK-12, 1887, Striker, MSR, Oden, AS Val, FMG9, L118A

[indigo gyro]

In this list there are lots of shotgun

That I want to see get added in miiw

[elfin lark]

A ump would be nifty

[brittle portal]

I don't see how that would be balanced in any way that isn't like "this is just a shotgun again", or "this is a marksman rifle"

[summer furnace]

L118A exists
it's called the victus xmr

[indigo gyro]

[elfin lark]

Aye thats true

[indigo gyro]

Yeah

[indigo gyro]

This list I made before miiw launch

[brittle portal]

Marksman Rifles in MW22 are fucking cringe. The introduction of that category was one of the worst ideas MW19 had.

[indigo gyro]

It's awesome category

[elfin lark]

Mw22 should add an elephant gun

[indigo gyro]

Spr love

[summer furnace]

and the barrett
sort of replaced by mcpr 300

[brittle portal]

like, yes, let's just make it so there are a category of guns in the game that are basically "Sniper Rifles, But Close Range"

[stiff panther]

it would literally just be another marksman rifle but with a pump action

[indigo gyro]

No

[stiff panther]

would it not?

[indigo gyro]

[brittle portal]

yeah probably

but like i said marksman rifles in MW22 are cringe so that's terrible.

[indigo gyro]

It's awesome

We need more marksman rifle tho

[brittle portal]

Like, honestly i really miss the days when sniper rifles were just sniper rifles, you had the choice of either running a sniper scope or an ACOG and that's it, no red dots, no iron sights, none of that shit.

[stiff panther]

I'm more happy with how it is now

[brittle portal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I just find it to be very annoying and not fun to play against for basically the same reasons that shotguns are annoying.

because people use them in exactly the same fucking way.

[stiff panther]

yeah I know what you mean

[elfin lark]

Ah damn i just remembered they added back the museum map

[stiff panther]

it's not really a properly balanceable thing I guess

[elfin lark]

Never did like that map in the beta

[stiff panther]

but I don't find myself upset much about them in game

it just works

[elfin lark]

Guess i will see how this goes

[indigo gyro]

I want them all

[brittle portal]

I mean, this is a problem they could've avoided by just not having bolt action rifles that have irons or red dots as attachments. Close range use of sniper rifles was balanced by the fact that you had to use a higher magnification optic, which complicated the process of doing so. This also had the added benefit of making it so sniper rifles were more often used as they were intended, being used to take people out that are trying to move through the middle of the map.

[indigo gyro]

AA-12 with drum mag

[stiff panther]

they really should be porting them over already

[indigo gyro]

nice

[stiff panther]

true, but I wouldn't like that, it's fun to have them more effective and varying

but I mean.. yeah

[brittle portal]

Adding this category of "Sniper rifles but close range" trivializes the concept of quickscoping and also makes actual sniper rifles redundant.

[summer furnace]

Why is the Desert Eagle not used in the military?
Although popular in the action movies the Desert Eagle was actually developed for target shooting and hunting. It is not a true combat pistol. For the combat role this pistol is way too bulky. It is uncomfortable to carry hold and fire.

another one shot potential

[brittle portal]

The deagle in MW22 already oneshots to the head

[charred quail]

The .50AE is also not a good calibre

Big ass round but won't penetrate body armor

[brittle portal]

yeah but we're talking about CoD here, body armor doesn't exist unless you're talking about Warzone

[charred quail]

Other smaller versions of the deagle fire .44 magnum but they jam a lot

[brittle portal]

but nobody would run a Deagle in Warzone anyway because why would you run a pistol

Overkill exists, you can run two primaries.

[indigo gyro]

Ohhhh I couldn't unlocked akimbo for deafle in miiw

[brittle portal]

everyone just does that

[indigo gyro]

[charred quail]

I want to run 2 secondaries

[brittle portal]

There is no Underkill.

[indigo gyro]

Didn't got time

[charred quail]

Big sad

[brittle portal]

Bo2 had that

[charred quail]

I believe it was in cold war as well

[brittle portal]

if it's in Cold War i never saw anyone using it.

[indigo gyro]

Overkill is one of the best perk I love it that I can use two ✌ primaries

[brittle portal]

Mostly because everyone just used bolt actions and dual magnums or marshals

[charred quail]

Can't remember, I hate cold war so never really played it a lot. Had like 80 hours in it I think

[brittle portal]

dual magnums and marshals were stupid i can't believe that that was the meta and Treyarch just left it like that

Treyarch really looked at people running dual wield shotgun pistols as secondaries literally all the time and was like "Yup this is good"

[charred quail]

Why balance anything when there's a new cod coming in literal months

[brittle portal]

i'm convinced those people don't play their own game.