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charred quail
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cel shaded AK

next rapids
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so you can't farm bots

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idk

indigo gyro
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i wish we could play it in private match where we can change bots difficulty

timid kindle
charred quail
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I fucking hate it

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trash gun

timid kindle
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Oh wait is that the 545

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I thought it was the 762

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💀

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Nvm

charred quail
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yeah lol

timid kindle
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Lol is there a game mode that’s best for 3 kills without dying

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hardpoint

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Idk

charred quail
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tdm, put a silencer on

next rapids
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i sincerely hope they get a lawsuit regarding taraq and it never gets put in any video game ever again

charred quail
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lmao

spark oxide
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Taraq and Border are better than the F1 one

charred quail
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what is it based off?

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Iraq?

spark oxide
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nah

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i think it means the town

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like, Taraq town

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not a country

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but it's based on that region, yeah

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sidenote, FFA spawns are absolutely fucked on Border, but i still like the map

stiff panther
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I like Taraq (kind of) swagsad and the Raceway map

next rapids
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fucking hate the map but still managed to pull off a dirty tie on ffa

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last second kill

charred quail
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I put on a noob tube

next rapids
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and then the game crashes hide_the_pain

charred quail
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joined a 2v5 snd game and immediately hear the enemy team trash talking

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wholesome

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level 18

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so close

next rapids
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cod discord is so ass

rough narwhal
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lol i can imagine

sacred iron
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I know for a fact that if I join it I will lose all my brain cells

verbal sluice
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||split because this discord thinks I'm trying to send explicit materials Stare||

verbal sluice
# next rapids cod discord is so ass

I got instantly banned in 2019 for posting a video I made on MW19 for "self promotion", no chance for appeal, no warning, just "yer fuckin gone kiddo"

spark oxide
verbal sluice
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For a mouth breather who sits mounted holding one angle all game yeah, I can see the appeal

spark oxide
verbal sluice
spark oxide
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nah i run around, but i insta mount or crouch when i hear someone coming or i see their feetsies in the distance

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abusing mount features and no crouch audio

verbal sluice
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I just run around stabbing people, it's so fun juking and then hearing peoples' reactions when they get outplayed youdofart

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I got some people so upset last night and got called many naughty words RealSmile

spark oxide
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riot shield too?

verbal sluice
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Haven't unlocked it yet

charred quail
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naked aks74u is better than a fully decked out ak105 lmao

austere sonnet
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leo where’s ak50

timid kindle
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Lol

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Need 3 kills without dying again

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I hate this

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Invasion time to camp

charred quail
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so the short ak uses the dovetail mount, but the long aks don't

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wtf

next rapids
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realistic tactical shooter

timid kindle
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Need 5 more

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Till ak gold

charred quail
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One would have thought they would done some researches about the ak platform, since they've spent so much time making all these detailed models and animations

stiff panther
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Do any of you guys have the Benelli M4 leveled up beyond level 1 dogeweird

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The 'expedite' shotgun

charred quail
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nope lol

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haven't touched the shotguns

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apparently you have to play the shotguns to unlock some cool looking foregrips

stiff panther
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There's one foregrip that I really like, I'd recommend unlocking it if you find out how

elfin lark
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The m4 has some absolute ass range

stiff panther
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'Cronen grooveshot'

timid kindle
stiff panther
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I'm not

elfin lark
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Can you shorten the barrel on the lever gun?

stiff panther
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I'm sure you can

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It's a Marlin btw wate

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336

elfin lark
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I found it unfortunate you couldnt shorten the barrel in mw19

stiff panther
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holy shit

stiff panther
charred quail
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double barrel shotty is fun

stiff panther
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There are barrels for it so yeah, you can swaghappy

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Also I was sure you could do this in 2019 as well? Huh

charred quail
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didn't remember this gun was in mw19

polar wren
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Haven't seen dirt on the 725 did they fix it

charred quail
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the double barrel? still strong

polar wren
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As in nerf the shit out of it like it deserves

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Damn

charred quail
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not as strong as the spr tho

nocturne badge
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Double Barrels should be strong but not that strong lol

charred quail
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so nobody is using the double barrel

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yet

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opes Handler already made a video about it, now people will start using it

timid kindle
lost kelp
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Its just like every other shotgun

stiff panther
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Clickbait moment

tardy mountain
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mw2 could be way better tbh

charred quail
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@stiff panther aks74u is much nicer than the ak105

stiff panther
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yay, it wasn't just in my head, lol

charred quail
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it's a 3 hit kill at close range and 5 hit at medium range

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cod maps are tiny so it feels a lot better

timid kindle
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play vanguard with laser weapons

shut wigeon
charred quail
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lol

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shit's broken

shut wigeon
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What is

charred quail
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the bolt action marksman

shut wigeon
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If they nerf my snipers and marksman rifles I’m uninstalling the game. They all work as intended

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I don’t do well with reg guns. Takes ages to kill a person. I prefer one shotting people

charred quail
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stubby boi

shut wigeon
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Looks good

charred quail
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it's the only ak that looks good imo

stiff panther
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aww I like the 103

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the 7.62 one

nocturne badge
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Only problem for me is that grip

shut wigeon
charred quail
stiff panther
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I just leave the barrel alone

charred quail
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I didn't touch the hardpoint for a single second lol haHAA

stiff panther
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Play the objective

shut wigeon
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Most attachments in this game makes weapons worse

charred quail
rare thorn
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I love the way the magazine looks

shut wigeon
nocturne badge
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I will say the fake gun names and gun model mimicry reminds me of GTA

charred quail
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oh you can dual weld the auto glock in mw2

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lol

elfin lark
stiff panther
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I just want to unlock the chassis's's for it

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I think it's also bugged

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The 'barrel' chassis thing is at lvl 7 but i'm at 8 or 9 on the auto Glock

charred quail
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oof

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the pistols have some good sights that you can also use on rifles

nocturne badge
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you could also go into private match and have everything unlocked for future testing or whatever

onyx nest
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the game is now putting me in matches with people i've blocked

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thanks infinity ward

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game is trying to punish me and make me quit in every way it can ffs

brittle portal
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The gunsmith in MW22 is really something, it'll really be like the trade request meme and it's like
"You get: 10 extra bullets in your mag
You lose: Movement Speed, ADS speed, Reload quickness, Sprint to Fire Speed, More visual recoil, Less damage, wider damage range, an IW dev coming to your house and punching you in the face"

onyx nest
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The M16 takes a fucking age to ADS, like jesus

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and im getting really fed up with all the people using the SPR, its infuriating

shut wigeon
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If an enemy is giving you trouble, think like them.

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Go where they’ll be going

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Beat them to it

onyx nest
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equip the SPR and follow the herd

shut wigeon
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Throw nades use a weapon that one shots them

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Annoy them so they have to change their playstyle

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Camp and wait for them at an unexpected place

onyx nest
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ugh I just wanna level up my fucking guns without having to meta play

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always the fucking way

shut wigeon
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Go play invasion then, fastest way to level up guns apparently

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Shoot bots

onyx nest
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im bored of it honestly

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actually im getting tired of the game as a whole already

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its been 3 days

shut wigeon
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Cod isn’t like what it used to be. Matches don’t feel personal anymore partly cause everyone can have any username they want

onyx nest
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but most of my experience has just been the odd bit of fun surrounded by hours of frustration because apparently whenever I try and play well I suffer

shut wigeon
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Before people had unique names and you could spot tryhards I mean you can still spot them but it’s different

onyx nest
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and if I just go all in on casual I might as well play a death simulator

shut wigeon
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Now everything is irrelevant

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No one is memorable

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They took the soul out of the game

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I don’t get hate messages on xbox because everything is crossplay.

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People can’t write to each other and they even took out chat

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They want to censor everything so nobody gets their feelings hurt

onyx nest
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considering I never really bought into that whole fun toxicity thing I don't really care for it

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I don't need or want to hear people hurling insults or funny remarks at me

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I just want to have a chill game, and I dunno why I expected this to be any different tbh

eager crescent
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downloaded MW2 yesterday and have started on the campaign. gotta say its pretty epic

shut wigeon
onyx nest
shut wigeon
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The amount of shit talking that went down in game chat especially by kids it was hilarious

onyx nest
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I never really got involved in it, I know people see it as harmless fun, or most do at least

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If I insult someone in a game, which rarely happens, its out of rage and anger on my part. At most i'll just swear at them in text chat, give them their fill and let them know they achieved their goal of making me feel like the trash I am and move on.

limpid gull
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That kind of looks like the T1 skin for the M5 lol.

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No proper push to talk 😦

tardy mountain
# timid kindle Nah it’s fine the way it is

no slide cancelling, no reload cancelling, can't shoot while sliding, ui sucks, ttk is way too fast, sbmm is way too aggressive, minimap doesn't show people who shoot (taking away half of its functionality), unlocking attachments is weird and tedious, maps cater to campers instead of people who play normally

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dead silence isn't a perk

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buggy as fuck

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aim assist for controller is way too strong

austere sonnet
rough narwhal
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hardly any of those sound objectively bad though

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(other than buggy as fuck obviously)

austere sonnet
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Plus what even is playing normally leo like is it playing with meta or playing as a casual or being a sweat lord leo

tardy mountain
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no slide cancelling - making gunplay the ONLY element of the game thus reducing skill ceiling

+making gunplay the only element of skill sucks when the ttk is very fast(turning the game into "whoever looks at the other one first wins")

removing reload cancelling is stupid because call of duty is meant to be a fast paced game. also nobody asked for this change

sbmm was implemented correctly in old call of duty games, affecting only the top and bottom 5%. it worked perfectly this way. Now, instead of judging based on skill, it judges based on immediate performance, so one game I'll destroy people and the next I'll get annihilated. and it's like this over and over again. No middle ground.

minimap losing half its functionality is self explanatory what's the point of looking at a minimal unless there's a UAV. that's a really stupid change for obvious reasins

attachment unlocking process is just plain stupid and only works for people who nolife the Game, which contradicts their recent changes of trying to make the game more appealing to the casual audience

stiff panther
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yeah, the game is fine at its core for me, you might wanna play a different game lol

austere sonnet
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leo ngl couldn’t care about slide cancel or reload cancel

stiff panther
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I like what it's done, added and removed

rough narwhal
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not objectively bad

not objectively bad

not objectively bad

Doubt thats how sbmm works

not objectively bad

not objectively bad

stiff panther
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yeah

tardy mountain
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black ops cold war is good

stiff panther
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and you can cancel reloads still, just not if you've committed to it

tardy mountain
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implementing changes that are meant to be in a slow paced game into a fast paced game is an objectively bad decision

austere sonnet
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leo I mean atleast there’s no jet packs

rough narwhal
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how do you suddenly decide what a game is supposed to be?

tardy mountain
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that's different

rough narwhal
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and like angra might have brought up, what about the reverse where they went hyper mobility with jetpacks?

austere sonnet
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leo exactly this game is trying something different

brittle portal
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The UI is bad and confusing, also looks like netflix, the gunsmith balance is atrocious, the weapon tuning either does nothing or actively makes things worse, maps are being removed due to using IRL locations and lawsuits, Activision can't afford to license shit so all the guns are fictionalized, not a direct issue but it's annoying, the perk system is not a good change at all, and the border crossing map is fucking terrible, especially if you're the kind of person that plays SND, because the cars refresh between rounds. Meaning that car explosion kills are always possible.

tardy mountain
rough narwhal
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any iteration of cod is what it wants to be

austere sonnet
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Each game has something that’s l either major or minor differences

tribal sinew
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bf1942 actually had jetpacks LULW

austere sonnet
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leo somehow I can believe that

tardy mountain
rough narwhal
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imo cod should have always had their tastes of something like mw being the slow line, bring back a hyper mobile series again, and then a middle of the road in blops of sorts

austere sonnet
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leo fast ttk can also have a dopamine dispenser

brittle portal
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Also, footstep sounds in Mw22 seem to be inconsistent, there are a lot of bugs and shit that doesn't work properly despite having over 3,000 devs working on the game over 3 years, and there are a significant amount of features that are just straight up missing from MW22 on launch.

austere sonnet
rough narwhal
austere sonnet
tardy mountain
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it's getting tiring

brittle portal
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MW22 feels like a remake of MW19 that was made out of spite.

tardy mountain
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theres no middle ground in sbmm for middle of the road players

brittle portal
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Like, there are very little improvements here.

rough narwhal
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or maybe middle of the road players are inconsistent and even if everyone is within a few points of the average sr the game itself can have huge variance anyway

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so basically, i doubt sbmm is functioning the way you suggest

austere sonnet
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If your getting matches with better lads then all you gotta do adapt and improve leo

tardy mountain
brittle portal
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I donno man, this argument is ridiculous, the solution is already obvious, just have a fucking ranked playlist, they created the system for tracking performance already, it wouldn't be hard to make visible rankings and have a ranked playlist.

austere sonnet
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leo other words skill issues but sadly that’ll be very kek of me to say it

rough narwhal
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do people think random chance, natural team synergies, luck, trying something different, or any other "random" factor just doesnt exist because sbmm is in a game?

brittle portal
austere sonnet
brittle portal
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well yes. it's never just "oh you're bad you gotta play better"

austere sonnet
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Have one lad that’s epic while the rest are shit is not really fair when your against a team that are epic gamers

brittle portal
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no it's not but in the eyes of SBMM algorithms it is fair

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because the one really good player balances out the rest of the not so good players.

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There's a reason why this is considered a problem

rough narwhal
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assuming thats only how the formula works

brittle portal
rough narwhal
brittle portal
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I'm just going off what i'm seeing, man.

rough narwhal
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you dont see anything either...

brittle portal
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??????????

rough narwhal
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hence assuming..

brittle portal
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Do you think i'm fucking blind?

austere sonnet
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leo well

rough narwhal
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your claiming to have knowledge of the algorithm and its shortcomings

brittle portal
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Do you think i'm fucking stupid?

rough narwhal
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yes

austere sonnet
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The lad has been saying he thinks

tardy mountain
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you can't say well uh you don't know that

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because that's how it's been working for a lot of players

rough narwhal
tardy mountain
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regardless of how it works it fucking sucks

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in its current state

brittle portal
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Stop being a pedantic fuck, jesus christ.

austere sonnet
rough narwhal
brittle portal
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You don't know any more than the rest of us.

rough narwhal
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and i never claimed anything...

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shocker

austere sonnet
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leo lad clearly made an assumption

brittle portal
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At least my claims are backed up by experiences.

tardy mountain
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there's anecdotes from players everywhere

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everyone has this problem

rough narwhal
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so now popular opinion counts for something? cardi b one of the best artists ever because "everyone else has said this"

rough narwhal
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a bunch of people making guesses as consumers with no experience probably isnt something to judge anything off of

rough narwhal
charred quail
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level 18 with the 74u now

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poggu

brittle portal
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I mean it's popular opinion and it's also recorded experience that contributes to this idea. I've seen countless instances of really good players and content creators getting placed on teams that are absolutely struggling against a team of just decent players and having to go 1v5/1v6 every single round in an SND game. What else am i supposed to think about that? What else would cause that to happen so many times?

tardy mountain
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and everyone has been complaining about it

rough narwhal
brittle portal
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Because what the fuck else are we supposed to do. IW ain't gonna say shit about it.

charred quail
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matchmaking seems fine for me

tardy mountain
austere sonnet
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leo let modders fix sbmm

rough narwhal
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maybe there isnt anything else to do? even perfect match making will have in game variance because theres other factors involved that can result the outcome

tardy mountain
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why not just remove sbmm and let matchmaking be random

brittle portal
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Why not do that and have a ranked playlist. most of the work is already done for it.

charred quail
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there was ranked in older cods right

rough narwhal
brittle portal
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yes.

austere sonnet
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Not that many lads played tho iirc but eh not really into it

rough narwhal
brittle portal
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Ah yes cause the top 20% of players would be in all possible lobbies in random matchmaking, because region and ping limits don't exist.

tardy mountain
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also SBMM matching players based on immediate performance has been covered by a lot of YouTubers and players so I'm not making things up

rough narwhal
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i mean.. just using basic math would suggest theres 2/10 players in a lobby that are top 20%...

charred quail
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don't care, I'm an elite gamer, sbmm doesn't affect me

rough narwhal
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ditto

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so im not even arguing for me own self gratification of a top 40% player wanting to commonly do good

next rapids
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i mean idrc if 2/10 players in the lobby are pros as long as i stop getting lobbies where 9/10 are pros

tardy mountain
rough narwhal
brittle portal
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Or not even pros, just decent players utilizing the meta.

tardy mountain
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I did good one game and would get destroyed the next game. this would be the only pattern.

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and it was the same for a lot of people

austere sonnet
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Where the enemy team shit

rough narwhal
tardy mountain
next rapids
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just how it is in a casual playlist, you'll get a sample from all skill levels, most average, some good and some bad, which is much more preferable to being pitted against good players just because you happened to be pitted against bad players in the previous match

tardy mountain
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that's has been my only experience in cold war multiplayer

rough narwhal
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as well as other within your likely average player base, which means games that are even perfectly balanced will just be a shot in the dark on which teammates are "peaking" or have random natural synergies

tardy mountain
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also taking a look at the profiles of the people who I'm against also shows they are more experienced

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the matchmaking is just flawed

rough narwhal
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experience has almost nothing to do with sbmm

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naturally youd expect people who put more time into a game to learn and get better

tardy mountain
rough narwhal
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but its not like i cant launch mw2 today and stomp 90% of people just because im good at shooters in general

tardy mountain
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would you expect a level 756 guy to beat a level 35 guy

austere sonnet
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leo but then there’s a lad with lots of experience but shit skill

charred quail
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my lobbies are full of level 55 tryhards now, they all sing the gamer song

rough narwhal
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i as lvl 1 will likely beat a vast majority of players

charred quail
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last game I had an italian constantly yelling the gamer word

tardy mountain
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I would own level 20s and subsequently get matched against level 800s

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it's not a coincidence

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it's how matchmaking is and it's flawed

rough narwhal
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you keep bringing up levels like they mean anything...

tardy mountain
brittle portal
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yeah to be fair, the only thing level really indicates is the amount of time spent playing a game.

austere sonnet
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leo higher levels doesn’t give you more hp right or better better damage right keanu last time I remembered it’s just a number

brittle portal
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Which doesn't necessarily mean someone is good at the game. You can spend a lot of time doing something and still be ass at it.

next rapids
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if skill didn't translate between games and players could only have one account per game, then yeah maybe level would correlate to skill

brittle portal
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also what kato said

rough narwhal
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if youre going through your mw2 experience and your conclusions is "i do good vs lvl 20 but bad vs lvl 800" then you are already way off on trying to get to the truth

tardy mountain
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whatever man the matchmaking just sucks lol

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I'm not the only one complaining about this

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there's explanations everywhere

brittle portal
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i don't disagree. Like i said, MW22 is a game that feels like it was made out of spite.

austere sonnet
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leo how many cod games have you played because if so you have the experience to be a pro player by this logic

brittle portal
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It is not a good game by any measure.

charred quail
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Chinese players spaming ear molesting noises

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lmao

rough narwhal
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ive not played nor do i think i will ever play mw22

onyx nest
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okay the M16 is straight trash, im trying my best with it, but it isn't worth it

austere sonnet
brittle portal
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I wouldn't either cause i'm not spending $70 on an activision game that's this shit

onyx nest
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thank god ive almost got it levelled

vestal lark
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who is playing to BATTLEFİELD BAD COMPANY 2

charred quail
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nobody

austere sonnet
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Now here’s a thought if a lad played cod waw up to cod mw2 2022 and his levels transferred through each game what level would the lad be

vestal lark
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😦

austere sonnet
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leo truly breath taking

brittle portal
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actually

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hold on'

austere sonnet
brittle portal
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need to pull out the fuckin calculator

austere sonnet
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leo like he’ll be consider hacking

charred quail
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cod gamer god

austere sonnet
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leo due to how good he is

rough narwhal
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it definitely correlates

charred quail
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has never once showered

rough narwhal
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because god knows theres never been shitters that play a game a shit load

austere sonnet
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But yet again lad can be shit leo

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Also who knows did the lad really got his levels in a legit manner leo

brittle portal
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Okay, so every CoD game since WaW has 10 prestiges, maxing out at Level 55. So that's 550 levels in one game. I donno how that works for MW19/Vanguard, though.

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And also Black Ops 3 has the Master Prestige Levels, going up to Level 1000

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but i think it starts leveling to that immediately after Level 55 10th Prestige, so that's like, 945 extra levels?

austere sonnet
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leo also here’s a kek thought imagine if each prestige it gives you an extra 5 hpleo

austere sonnet
brittle portal
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Assuming that prestiging in MW19 and Vanguard works the same way as every other CoD game, my math is currently showing that this theoretical person would be Level 8,645.

charred quail
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the aug is very good

austere sonnet
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By the gods of brother in Christ he must be a epic pro cod gamer that has the skills of the legendary Keanu reeves

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leo he’ll truly destroy his enemies in a 1v6

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With the flick of his wrist

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I mean that’s how that works right going by stunna logic

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But anyways ak50 in mw2 when tho

brittle portal
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get off his back about it, the rebuttal's already been made.

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Also, apparently the Intervention shows up in MW22's co-op

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Which makes me wonder why it's not in MP yet. There are a lot of things that aren't in the MP yet for some reason.

rough narwhal
brittle portal
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Plus, I think it says something that Joe Cecot, multiplayer designer for MW22, is just not on Twitter anymore. He just deleted his whole twitter once MW22 came out.

brittle portal
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I mean, not really

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did you even see the post credits scene

weak hornet
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The right thing to do

austere sonnet
brittle portal
austere sonnet
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Yes but hey dead memes hits different

brittle portal
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eh

austere sonnet
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leo just like making things up

frank oasis
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Thanks for that the other day, didnt think of it but managed toffinish all the daily challenges 😁

brittle portal
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I still think it's very funny that IW/Activision have had like 3 different maps cause lawsuits for them because they ripped off real locations and they didn't like that

next rapids
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happy to help

charred quail
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my lord, gamer's trying to save his kd in SND

rough narwhal
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when people think sbmm is only:

player(s) a+b+c+d+e=f
f/5 = combined sr

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now find another team with close combined sr and thats sbmm...

brittle portal
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probably goes by averages or some shit

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plus i don't see how that approach would work when you take people joining mid-game into account

eager crescent
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ya see, thats why I like bf1 and SWBF2. No sbmm so I can stomp on casuals and if I get beat then i can only “guess they’re better than me”. sbmm is annoying

brittle portal
#

well i mean SBMM isn't at thing in BF because the matches are generally larger

rough narwhal
#

it likely takes into consideration your previous 20 something games, who they were played against, who you killed and their sr and that feeds into your sr. now with that individual rating you feed that into a formula where it wont accept peoples SR that are over a certain number high or lower than the teams combined sr

brittle portal
#

you can't really do any kind of skill based thing effectively across 64/128 people.

eager crescent
#

I know that, but comparing the experience

rough narwhal
#

players recent 20 games sr (individual sr)

a+b+c+d+e=f
f/5

"balance checks":
individual sr tolerance +/- 100 to teams average (combined sr)
combined sr tolerance +/- 100 (between the two teams)

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(numbers are made up, just used as a gist)

eager crescent
#

much more enjoyable to have randomly good or bad enemies/ teammates than having a “perfectly” balanced match, save that for a ranked mode

rough narwhal
#

no such thing as perfectly balanced

eager crescent
rough narwhal
#

players have good and bad games, good maps bad maps, counters, different pathing etc

#

well even in regards to extremely close balance matches theres too much to consider

eager crescent
#

sbmm just tries to get it closer to a “perfect” match

#

uh oh, several people are typing

charred quail
#

I swear cod gamers are a different breed. This guy is screaming "such a little bitch" every time he's killed

brittle portal
#

I feel like that combined SR tolerance is what causes a lot of problems with SBMM among decent players/content creators, especially if those players are just good, but they're not always performing at peak performance because they're using off meta stuff to have fun.

rough narwhal
#

someone could just lose to 1 person over and over because they path different to other players and that snowballs the match

#

i dont think people realize how delicate a matches outcome is

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especially with a random selection of players

eager crescent
#

Can’t wait to get into multiplayer to be a menace once I finish the campaign. melee here I come

brittle portal
#

It does just generally feel like the game punching you down if you get better, because if you get better, or are already really good while using off meta stuff and trying to have fun, you just get matched against people who may not be as good as you, but are just strictly using the meta.

rough narwhal
#

outside of outlier weapons being too good, i think meta weapons are really only relevant at the highest level of play

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a top 40% player shouldnt see a drastic performance difference if hes using any viable weapon vs people around his skill level using meta weapons

brittle portal
#

i mean they are always relevant, there will always be the team or person that just sticks to whatever the meta happens to be because that's the path of least resistance.

rough narwhal
#

its not like the ttk isnt fast enough to where the game isnt generally who sees who first wins anyway

brittle portal
#

either that or they use shotguns.

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Also, TTK in this game seems to be weirdly inconsistent. Like i've seen clips of people dying while trying to kill a guy at range and they get like, 5-6 hitmarkers and the guy on the other end isn't even red screen.

rough narwhal
#

lets say X weapon is meta and has a combined score of 9/10, using Y weapon that is combined score of 8/10 isnt going to suddenly make your performance much worse

#

anyone claiming otherwise is just trying to compensate

brittle portal
#

because you can only do so much as a single player on a team.

rough narwhal
#

"your team is not very good" is drastically more detrimental than you using a gun that is marginally worse..

#

using a meta gun with a shit team isnt going to push you over to winning either

brittle portal
#

Yeah, but see, really good players are often going to be using that Y weapon because it's different than using the meta X weapon, and they do wanna have fun, either for their own sake or for the sake of content. In that situation, many decent players will just switch over to using the meta cause they're getting tired of putting in the effort to use Y weapon. It's often a night and day difference in performance when this happens, because the X weapon is just so much better, in combination with the fact that they are just better than the enemy team that are just using the meta.

brittle portal
rough narwhal
#

of course your playing the numbers game, but increasing your chance of winning with a shit team from 40% to 42% isnt really something to lose sleep over unless its a ranked setting

brittle portal
#

I mean with SBMM the game is technically always a ranked setting because the game always tracks your stats.

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especially since there is no ranked playlist

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do you see

rough narwhal
#

if you care that much about a non ranked win or loss then id argue you need to reevaluate your priorities

brittle portal
#

plus it's just annoying to be a decent player, you're doing really well, dropping 30 kills in an SND game against people who are just using the meta, but you just lose anyway.

next rapids
#

just got fucking SPITROASTED by two people camping the door i was coming through

rough narwhal
brittle portal
brittle portal
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because that doesn't make much sense to me.

rough narwhal
#

im not surprised

brittle portal
#

I fucking hate talking to you.

rough narwhal
#

you seemingly get active when im talking, could be coincidence but i didnt see you in here for the longest time until i started talking

#

at any point you can also just decide to stop talking

brittle portal
#

well i was seeing complaints about MW22 so i figured i'd drop my list.

onyx nest
#

something I wish they would add alongside all the other improvements is a way to filter maps as well as gamemodes, I really don't want to play on border crossing or taraq but I keep getting dumped on it, its like the game fucking knows I hate those maps

rough narwhal
brittle portal
#

you've still not explained your reasoning here.

rough narwhal
#

not sure if its worth but for the sake of at least trying sure

#

just because players in general, especially casuals, boils down a game mode where the objective to win is NOT getting kills doesnt mean that the objective to win changes

brittle portal
#

I mean the objective in SND is either detonate the bomb or kill the entire enemy team to win the round. And most SND rounds end by one team dying. Like, sure you'll have bomb plants, but actual bomb detonations are relatively scarce, the only reason someone would plant the bomb is to bait people who are hiding into peaking to try to defuse.

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So they can kill them.

rough narwhal
#

knew it wasnt going to be worth

brittle portal
#

What, what's wrong with that rebuttal.

next rapids
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kinda went off with the mp7 holy cow

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sbmm did me good eh

brittle portal
charred quail
#

I've been trying to level up the pp-19-01

#

it's terrible

#

only thing works is to build it for hip fire and run around like a pro gamer

#

dunkey released some banger

polar wren
#

So battlefield devs have fixed the freezing, let's see if MW devs can do it faster

next rapids
#

MW22 servers are shitting themselves

#

got a clip

polar wren
#

Found out why I suck, I'm treating MW movement like it's a cod game instead I gotta play like it's a battlefield game

#

Camp

next rapids
#

honestly yeah

#

half the maps need me to be more of a camper to actually succeed in

polar wren
#

Best play of me was in ground war in the corner of the map

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Sniping

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And using a spotter scope

next rapids
polar wren
#

All I need is claymores and ammo box

#

That spotting scope on ground war or invasion is no joke

#

Actually benefiting

brittle portal
polar wren
#

Cold blooded is a perk in the game yes?

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Because it's not going to help when someone has a spotting scope

brittle portal
#

yes it is

#

i don't remember if it's a bonus perk or not

#

i think it is

next rapids
#

it is it's the first one you earn

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in game

polar wren
#

Cold blooded gives a black unmarketable icon in the spotting scope

polar wren
#

Oh fuck that map

#

👎

rough narwhal
#

yea fuck them for not catching a superjump glitch where if you specifically stand in a certain area and do certain moves it throws you in the sky

#

halo 1-3 are still shit games

rough narwhal
#

the point is that its not something any one person can specifically test for to find on their own

polar wren
#

Battlefield bugs: make you go under the map
MW2022 bugs: trip to the moon

weak hornet
#

at least his gun didn't ADS like this

polar wren
#

$70 game

brittle portal
#

this really is like MW2

summer furnace
weak hornet
rough narwhal
summer furnace
#

a

polar wren
weak hornet
next rapids
#

having to camp prone to get this camo

#

26 and 10

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it's too easy

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and boring

weak hornet
frigid onyx
#

L game

potent arrow
rough narwhal
#

i almost got into a fight with a friend because he was abusing super jumps

potent arrow
#

People that abuse stuff like that are trash ngl

frigid onyx
#

Halo 1-3 were great games

potent arrow
#

1 and 2 I still enjoy a lot but I just don't enjoy 3 anymore

light maple
#

mw2 launch better than bf2042 after 1 year

weak hornet
frigid onyx
#

I stopped playing at 3

frigid onyx
rough narwhal
potent arrow
#

Lmao

indigo gyro
#

last one there are soooooooooooo many

#

have fun watching

frigid onyx
#

Rather not

charred quail
light maple
next rapids
#

mfw cod is a more popular title

rough narwhal
frigid onyx
#

Cod has always outsold bf

charred quail
#

halo 2 is doo doo dog shit

rough narwhal
#

ill literally fight you

charred quail
rough narwhal
#

talk poo about 1, but not 2

frigid onyx
charred quail
#

battlefield must be a Windows Phone of gaming then

#

one good phone every 8 years or so

frigid onyx
#

I’m having more fun on bf that I do on cod so idc 🤷🏾‍♂️

charred quail
#

same shits to me

next rapids
#

lmao both franchises sell reskins

weak hornet
#

I'd say BF1, BFV, 2042 and BF4 all play very differently

next rapids
#

and i'd say cod4, bo2, and iw play very differently

rough narwhal
#

if you change a product a lot, does it deserve the moniker?

weak hornet
#

Whereas every CoD has pretty much the same gunplay but the movements do change at least

light maple
indigo gyro
#

modern warfare 3, black ops 3 , mw19 were also very different

rough narwhal
#

like lets be honest, what is apple supposed to do?

next rapids
#

both franchises are reskins, people just like to pick and choose what they consider innovative enough to warrant not being called a reskin

charred quail
#

Let's petition for a roguelike call of duty

frigid onyx
weak hornet
frigid onyx
#

removes features, launches with bugs, horrible II, no stats, crashes

charred quail
light maple
charred quail
#

pc?

light maple
#

hasnt crashed once

charred quail
#

xbox?

light maple
#

on pc

next rapids
#

playing since release, noticed several bugs and major stability issues

indigo gyro
frigid onyx
#

Just like I didn’t want to play advanced warfare

indigo gyro
charred quail
#

mw2 probably, since they are reverting the "fixes" they planned for warzone 2

#

morons

frigid onyx
#

Cod has a bigger development team….. which is sad to say with a launch like this.

weak hornet
charred quail
weak hornet
#

Maybe when Microsoft buys Activision we'll be seeing only one more Sexual Harassment case within the next year

charred quail
#

I hope they buy activision then burn it to the ground

#

they have the money

weak hornet
#

World War 3's the better game anyways ☕

polar wren
#

I prefer battlebit

next rapids
#

good one

charred quail
#

when is battlebit coming out again

polar wren
#

Next year maybe

charred quail
#

they keep doing all these closed closed closed beta

polar wren
#

Gotta make the servers not dogshit

charred quail
#

oh the servers will be dogshit

#

I guarantee it

next rapids
#

whole lobby full of spr scumbags

polar wren
#

Should be less dogshit than what we are going through

charred quail
#

lmao

#

Darktide's out next month

#

I don't think about bf mobile

next rapids
#

hurricane done

brittle portal
next rapids
#

yeah doesn't look terrible on this one

#

kinda looks like a low res texture though

brittle portal
#

i mean are you running on lower settings

next rapids
#

max textures

harsh bolt
#

Call of duty

austere sonnet
#

It just works

frigid onyx
#

Looks bad ngl

next rapids
#

i don't like it

brittle portal
#

that's unfortunate

austere sonnet
#

cheap Plastic gold

elfin lark
#

Got that dollar store gold tin paper

next rapids
#

"laser color: blue"
in game color: green

good one iw

austere sonnet
#

Skill issues with color blindness leo

brittle portal
charred quail
next rapids
#

pistols are so fucking ASS

#

i hate this

#

the fucking balls they have to not include hardcore on release

#

when it's available in private matches

#

holy shit

stiff panther
#

Get the fast trigger for the Glock and you'll be much less upset

#

Well

#

After you get it, lol, so yeah nevermind.

frigid onyx
brittle portal
next rapids
#

i'm using the 890

#

apparently it's "super good"

#

it's probably just skill issue but none of my shots ever fucking land and i can't see where i'm shooting

brittle portal
#

i mean it's a shotgun

#

it's hard for shotguns to be bad.

next rapids
#

if by some chance i do manage to hit them it's 3 hitmarkers and they're dead

brittle portal
#

like they have to be deliberately trying to be bad

next rapids
brittle portal
#

oh

#

i thought you meant the shotgun

next rapids
#

yeah pistol names are hard

#

idk what this one is meant to be

#

i wanna say p226 but that might just be the generic design

elfin lark
#

Is it the starter pistol?

next rapids
#

yes

brittle portal
#

ah yeah the P226 Elite i think

#

it is the P226

#

I remember it 2 shotted in the beta

elfin lark
#

When i tried it in the shooting range it had a surprising amount of oomph

next rapids
#

it's nice when i can land my shots

#

which i can't for shit

elfin lark
#

My aim has not been great in mw22 compared to 19

next rapids
#

with automatic weapons it's fine it's just pistols because of how the recoil obstructs view

elfin lark
#

The g18 has one hell of a rpm

#

Damn near unusable beyond 5 meters

next rapids
#

i hope all this shit gameplay at least brings me down the sbmm ladder

elfin lark
#

Being tactically shit, smart

brittle portal
#

Using shit guns to reverse boost

#

galaxy brain

next rapids
#

i swear to fucking christ these servers are so utterly shit

#

every damn game bugging out lagging out players timing out

#

now it just crashed, how nice

rapid summit
#

Mei will be gone for 2 weeks until they fix her ice wall ability that was glitchy

weak hornet
#

Wasn't this issue fixed with OW1?

spark oxide
#

my power dipped during a Ranked Siege match taking me out of it for a round, it cost us the game

#

so unfair

polar wren
#

Power issue

#

Skill issue

rough narwhal
spark oxide
rapid summit
#

Might as well just play Dva and Roadhog in OW2 until Mei comes back

weak hornet
#

Yeah but doesn't she have the same abilities as the original OW?

rough narwhal
#

video suggests its a weird interaction with mei standing on her wall against ceilings and kiriko teleporting above her and getting out of the map

rough narwhal
#

likely better for them to remove mei than kiriko

shut wigeon
#

Why did they remove Mei

stiff panther
rough narwhal
#

likely blizzard doesnt want to remove maps or kiriko so mei is getting the axe

weak hornet
#

The throwing animation looks kinda lazy

rough narwhal
#

kirikos throwing animation?

shut wigeon
frigid onyx
next rapids
#

exhilarating gameplay

frigid onyx
#

MOST ADVANCED

brittle portal
#

MOST ADVANCED CALL OF DUTY EVER, 3,000 DEVELOPERS, 3 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT

weak hornet
#

In the end it's still just an average call of duty game

brittle portal
#

Eh it’s below average

#

It doesn’t even have a combat record

frigid onyx
indigo gyro
frigid onyx
#

I’m convinced that everyone just f’d off during Covid and didn’t work on the game

shut wigeon
indigo gyro
spark oxide
next rapids
#

call of duty experience

frigid onyx
#

He isn’t lying

rough narwhal
#

ill never understand how people justify kids being utter dipshits

next rapids
frigid onyx
#

They should have just postponed launch

sacred iron
#

Would be cool to be able to see the Trello boards for these big titles

#

At least then we can get some perspective as to what takes the longest, what’s the priority etc

elfin lark
polar wren
#

This edible ain't shit

timid kindle
#

Have any of you tried using the m16

#

😂

#

Things dogshit

#

Burst weapons are usually really good but this 💀

next rapids
stiff panther
#

dogetrulyweird @empty ivy ^ you were right

elfin lark
empty ivy
#

No reason to get the game now on my part now.

next rapids
#

MW22 trello

shut wigeon
#

I wish I bought mw2 in December instead of now

#

Forge update can’t come soon enough

timid kindle
timid kindle
#

Finna use thatc

weak hornet
#

I believe they consider it to be an exploit

elfin lark
timid kindle
#

💀

weak hornet
#

Also you can really tell how many people abuse reverse boosting for SBMM in clips

shut wigeon
#

Imagine reverse boosting in 2022

weak hornet
#

Last guy just stared at the man with a fully loaded weapon and didn't fire

#

What really helps for reverse boosters is that the game really prioritizes matchmaking with skill over ping. It's painfully obvious when the game tries to match you with people who have over 100 ping

timid kindle
#

What’s reverse boosting

#

Lol

weak hornet
#

People who just throw themselves at enemies in order to put themselves in the lower skill-bracket so they get matched up with people who eat glue while playing the game for a later match

timid kindle
#

Don’t you have to insanely negative

#

Go

weak hornet
#

Yes but people don't check stats, they just look at the clip that he got against someone who can barely play the game and go "Wow, he's so good"

timid kindle
#

I wonder if you can earn camos that way

#

😂

weak hornet
#

Yes you can

timid kindle
#

💀

#

Waste of time

weak hornet
#

As long as you don't mind spending like two matches or so just bombing your match so you can 'go sicko' mode for a few matches

#

Just look at how many blind and deaf people there are

timid kindle
#

Dude has gold on the spr and still uses ironsights

#

💀

#

Dawg what

rocky grove
#

Most marksman rifles use iron sights as default

#

Besides iron sights ain’t that bad tbh

timid kindle
#

Idk kinda looks goofy

#

Lol

rocky grove
#

Nah not really goofy

elfin lark
polar wren
#

Waiting for y'all mf to find out the rifle with a fucked up aim animation

frigid onyx
#

Imagine naming yourself faze testy

polar wren
#

It ain't intentional but it's fucked up

#

MCPR is straight fucked up

timid kindle
#

Double weapon xp when mw2

#

Give us a thanksgiving event

#

They should give us all free cod points on Christmas

#

Free 10k

rocky grove
#

Mostly 1-2 gift packs they do

verbal sluice
#

usually it's a dogshit calling card or emblem

#

maybe a 15 minute XP boost

#

Oh yeah calling cards and emblems do not fucking work, at least for steam players

rocky grove
#

My man wants a free 10K cod points

#

Lol

#

Also no idea how I got a free 200 cod points

#

When I got vault or the endowment packs

#

Never said anything about cod points

timid kindle
#

They should give us a free bundle of our choosing

rocky grove
#

They never did

timid kindle
#

Ik

rocky grove
#

Someone going crazy

timid kindle
#

That’s why I said they should

#

or give us a free battlepass

#

🤷‍♂️

rocky grove
#

They did a free battlepass before

#

Either Cold War or vanguard I forgor which one

timid kindle
#

Cold War is over 200 gigs for me

#

Shits dumb

#

Lol

#

Vanguard was only 50 something

verbal sluice
#

Because they download textures into a cache, fucking with you if you have a data cap 💀

weak hornet
#

Oh hell yeah, finished a match and I go right back to SHADER OPTIMIZATION

brittle portal
#

SHADER OPTIMIZATION

timid kindle
#

Lol

#

Still haven’t done spec ops

#

Kinda pissed about 2019 mw

#

I’m only missing one achievement

#

And that’s completing all spec ops and operations and I did but it didn’t give me it

#

Kinda lame bs is that

weak hornet
#

inb4 all the maps get copyrighted

timid kindle
#

Huh

#

Lmao still no regular role Thoughti. Would have it by now

#

😤

brittle portal
#

Also, sidenote, i mentioned this to a friend of mine in another server who really likes F1 and they had this to say about it.
"Fucking hell it took me too long to realize “Marina Bay” meant Singapore.

…why in the ever-loving fuckballs would you want to base a CoD map on that particular track? If you’re going to make a CoD map centered on an F1 track, just use Monaco/Circuit de Monte Carlo. It’s got everything- lots of building, a mix of long sight lines and close quarters, and the tunnel."

timid kindle
#

Why is the SPR so aids

#

All I see

#

Is that or m4

#

💀

#

They gonna nerf that SPR

#

it’s coming

brittle portal
#

because it's an iron sight bolt action rifle with relatively fast ADS speed

#

and it's a CoD game so people are gonna quickscope

#

the addition of the marksman rifle category was a mistake i feel

timid kindle
#

Didn’t 2019 have a marksman rifle cat

brittle portal
#

yes. did i stutter?

stiff panther
timid kindle
#

you didn’t say what game

#

😂

brittle portal
#

I mean, i meant both.

timid kindle
#

Oh lmso

brittle portal
#

As in the addition of it to CoD in general

#

was a mistake

timid kindle
#

Where’s the Ak47 in mw2

brittle portal
#

It's the Kastov 7.62

stiff panther
#

That's the 103 Bruh

#

But same thing, game wise

brittle portal
#

closest you're getting in this game

timid kindle
#

🤔

#

Lachman sub

#

Why not just call it the mp5

#

They did in 2019,

verbal sluice
timid kindle
#

going for the mp5 gold next

#

The grind is real

#

Next will be SPR

#

3 kills with out dying for the SPR is gonna be aids

brittle portal
# timid kindle Why not just call it the mp5

Considering the amount of issues Activision is having regarding IRL locations in this game, I can only assume that Activision simply did not have the money to get the license for H&K designs, or a lot of gun designs in general, hence the changed names and fictionalized designs present in the game. I think this is happening cause of the most recent sexual harassment lawsuit, as well as how poorly Vanguard did.

verbal sluice
#

wuuuussies

brittle portal
#

because the real Getty Museum was suing

#

and it's why CDL pros aren't allowed to play the F1 map

#

and it's happening with the hotel map as well

verbal sluice
#

it's transformative enough that it should be protected under free speech

#

they just want money because their failing museum is shit and attendance is down

timid kindle
#

💀

brittle portal
timid kindle
#

Dawg what that sounds like the most dumbest shit

#

It’s a video game

brittle portal
#

it's a video game being sold for money

timid kindle
#

A fucking fictional video game

brittle portal
#

doesn't matter, if they wanted to use real looking guns with real names, they'd have to pay for the license to do so, and likely pay royalties.

timid kindle
#

How did 2019 have licensed weapons

brittle portal
#

because Activision had more money i guess?

timid kindle
#

That’s lame

#

The m4 still has its name

#

😂

brittle portal
#

yeah but it's a mishmash of commercial parts, not a genuine military M4.

timid kindle
#

Yea Cold War had some silly names for weapons aswell

#

the FFAR

#

lol

#

I remember how dogshit that gun was

#

until they buffed it

#

Then warzone got ruined by vanguard weapons

#

That broke the game

#

No recoil STG

#

Lol

verbal sluice
#

dumbshit piece of shit game fucking broken shit alligator turd

#

GIVE ME

#

WHAT I AM OWED

brittle portal
verbal sluice
#

This is fucking bad

#

Just got off and am in bed for the night, I can still hear the sound of MWII footsteps in my head 343

#

get out get out get out GET OUT GET OUT crazytroll

rough narwhal
#

like most games, youll get it eventually

brittle portal
cobalt goblet
#

What colour is your bugatti?

spark oxide
#

ok, Andrew Tate, mine is no colour because i hate the Zero, such an ugly car

#

buy muscle cars

spark oxide
#

uhhh, so, MW22 weapon tuning is- weird

#

confusing as hell

#

well, not, but kinda

next rapids
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how

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it's the simplest thing

brittle portal
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it doesn't do anything, don't worry about it.

next rapids
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10% benefit if you max all attachments to one side

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mild as it should be

brittle portal
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negligible at best, actively detrimental at worst.

onyx nest
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quite honestly anything that increases ADS speed is categorically bad, which is most of the attachments

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ive now changed the attachments and retuned my weapons so all of them have the fastest ADS speed possible

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with the TTK the way it is, and the fact that the person to shoot first is almost guaranteed to win the engagement, its the only reasonable thing to do with almost all weapons

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its annoying because it means that most of the attachments are effectively useless unless you want to camp and get the jump on people or prioritize longer range fights, but even thats not an option because no matter what you do its guaranteed a player will spawn behind you/flank you and kill you from behind anyway, so having something that you can react fast with is 100% necessary

spark oxide
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changes seem minute

next rapids
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i guess they wanted to let people customise guns further

brittle portal
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That seems like that would've been the concept but they fucked it up so hard that i wonder why they even bothered

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Like, I don't know what IW is doing over there but clearly something's wrong. It isn't a good sign when the multiplayer designer for a game just straight up deletes his presence on social media.

tribal crypt
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probably better that way for his own health

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since people on the internet are ruthless

brittle portal
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i mean to be fair with the amount of things that have been fucked up with this game, the ruthlessness would be at least somewhat justified.

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A lot of these decisions are just bad.

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Like, this game could be good if they gave it some depth, revert the nerfs on bhopping and bring back slide cancelling. Hell, even add the ability to shoot while dolphin diving.

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but as it is right now it's just a slow mess that isn't that fun to play really.

spark oxide
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(yeah, i was camping RV)

brittle portal
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that's a funny concept

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if you're camping you just get teleported

spark oxide
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it'd be gross

brittle portal
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it'd be funny

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plus it'd be karma

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win win

spark oxide
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i was lagging like that all game, made it even worse because i don't use aim assist

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couldn't stay on target at all with everyone jumping around

brittle portal
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internet issue

next rapids
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dof

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motion blur

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eugh

brittle portal
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yeah also what the fuck why are you running dof and motion blur

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fucking cringe

spark oxide
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cope

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i like the damn cinematic shit

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i even run vibration and haptic feedback on my PS5 DualSense

brittle portal
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that's fine, just DOF and motion blur are cringe.

spark oxide
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PC gamers... what are they like...

rocky aurora
onyx nest
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was pretty bad

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hasn't happened since tho, not to me at least

verbal sluice
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$70+ interactive entertainment product trol

spark oxide
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the worst thing i've ever experienced

cobalt goblet
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guys

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do i delete MW19 for marvel avengers?

spark oxide
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absolutely not, fuck that

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Avengers is such a dead game

cobalt goblet
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solo exists innit?

spark oxide
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i'm not talking about activity

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dead = bad, in British slang

cobalt goblet
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oh

spark oxide
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yeah, it's pretty boring

cobalt goblet
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guess mw19 is staying

spark oxide
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at least with that, you can play MW and then MWII, one full, long Campaign

cobalt goblet
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i like the fact the actual avengers many people know is there except ms.marvel

spark oxide
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could be a cool experience

cobalt goblet
spark oxide
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Avengers shoulda been more like Spider-Man

cobalt goblet
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i saw some stuff

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post credits, where they go to mexico, the meme in the bar, Soap and ghost gets to know vargas etc

cobalt goblet
spark oxide
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Huh?

cobalt goblet
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whats the bad stuff in avengers

spark oxide
cobalt goblet
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yea i've seen alone

spark oxide
cobalt goblet
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prob the sickest mission where soap goes solo with ghost on the radio

brittle portal
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perfectly fitting for marvel i think

spark oxide
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it's linear as well, which isn't bad but when a game has no personality linear doesn't work

indigo gyro
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next rapids
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pretty cool

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for an unfinished $70 game

brittle portal
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god fucking dammit

summer furnace
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mw19 was similarly successful too so

next rapids
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only $600 million

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pretty big difference

charred quail
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biggest launch, doesn't even have a day-1 patch

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what a joke

spark oxide
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i mean, only bug i've experienced was not being able to change my showcase stuff

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like- emblem and calling card and operator

inner pollen
charred quail
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they pushed the pc version to a studio which made all those horrible 007 and spiderman licensed games

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no wonder it is full of bugs

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but even the console versions are buggy

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lmao

sacred iron
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I guarantee a huge portion of that total comes from pre orders

charred quail
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it will be high, considering it's still cod, and they are shutting down warzone

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well, "shutting down"

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they are disabling all the modes and maps in warzone 1 to push people to play warzone 2

sacred iron
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the majority of players problably don't care that it's missing fundemental features

charred quail
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they really need to nerf UAV

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it's 3 kills to get with hardline

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everyone and their mom are running UAV