#technology
quick locust
molten coral
I’ve 4,5TB worth of SSD’s in my PC, I put out my old HDD 2 years ago as it was making noise.
Never looked back
pale quartz
https://tenor.com/view/marie-winter-wentworth-gif-18318812
phisons e18 controller is in another league of its own
toxic wigeon
When I get my new fan and processor in the future I'll get the upgrade. Right now though storage isn't too bad.
quick locust
I don't mind noise from HDDs as my gpu and room ventilation is far louder
pale quartz
gotta love the sound of construction work from a pc case
pale quartz
When I get the alchemist gpu it'll be an upgrade for my ears too
until you hear Intel's drivers
quick locust
well, they might be ready by the time they come out, after 20 years of delays
i know a few who daily drives alchemist
pale quartz
living life on the bleeding edge
quick locust
ya lol
that was a mess
nvidia hasnt had as many issues
they did have an issue with doom eternal for a bit but they fixed that
molten flame
Nvidia driver issues are most common at launch, they get them sorted out within a month
pale quartz
https://scontent.fadl5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/279165456_702788260864142_84...
hard drive sentience
quick locust
DVD more loud
pale quartz
nvidia hasnt had as many issues
minus the driver bricking, dead 3090's, vBIOS faults
Nvidia "certified" drivers for you
quick locust
3090 issue wasnt driver iirc
pale quartz
was both
quick locust
neither was early turing that kept dying
pale quartz
the 2080ti failures were VRAM (too hot, it's Nvidia though so that comes with the label)
micron shitty manufacturing as per the norm
happening once isn't bad enough apparently so let's have GDDR6X also burn up in flames
sure GDDR7 in micron NAND won't have the same fate
quick locust
Ya lol
molten coral
quick locust
for the 16 hour gaming sessions
molten flame
sure GDDR7 in micron NAND won't have the same fate
I fear for GDDR7X temps
As expensive as GPUs are now in the high-end I think they should just go back to using on-chip VRAM to keep power consumption down
HBM3 on RTX 4090 would be a lot better than GDDR6X
quick locust
💰
molten flame
RTX 4000 is gonna be memory bandwidth starved if it uses G6X, the large L2 cache isn't gonna help with high resolution gaming either
pale quartz
RTX 4000 is gonna be memory bandwidth starved if it uses G6X, the large L2 cache...
first SKUs will be on GDDR6X
rtx 40 refreshes will be GDDR7
molten flame
So wait for GDDR7 refresh if 4K gamer
pale quartz
not exactly
RTX 40 MC's will integrate support for GDDR7, however it can't use GDDR7 to its full capacity
blame thermal issues so it'll be capped
molten flame
Yeah I figured it would use entry-level G7 at 30-32 Gbps
pale quartz
also the cost/power reduction in terms of manufacturing costs on nvidias side means HBM is basically a null sum game
you're talking maybe like a 40 watt reduction under full bandwidth which is basically nothing for a 10-15% increase in base costs for integration
molten flame
32GB HBM3 draws 40 watts less than 24GB G6X 24 Gbps?
Figured 24 Gbps G6X used stupid amount of power
pale quartz
not under, call it, comparative loads
it's way less, the issue is energy input scales regressively for the demand/heat generation
it does use a stupid amount more but 40 watts is the input energy rather than what the efficiency curve is actually demanding, once you take into account thermals it drops to around 20-25w~
HBM is highly more efficient than GDDR in terms of those regressive losses, so you don't need say 30W of power to generate 20W on the output
molten flame
AD102 die on 5nm/4nm is gonna be hard to keep cool I think that could also be a problem for HBM since it sits very close to the GPU die
pale quartz
correct
pale quartz
combine massive power transients thanks to shitty Nvidia stagnation with monolithic with high bandwidth VRAM and you're basically making a cooker
molten flame
Gas heating for the summer time
Imagine being in a cramped apartment room with a 450W GPU and 200W CPU running
misty wadi
What card is recommanded for 2042 3070ti?
I have 2060 now and around 85fps with low settings
toxic wigeon
What would pair well with the 3070ti? Give the 5800x3d a go if you're willing to spend a bit more.
toxic wigeon
Oh that's not a bad combo with it.
Oh I completely misread it.
Yeah a 3070ti is pretty good with the 900x.
pale quartz
What card is recommanded for 2042 3070ti?
1080p/1440p the 6800xt, 4k 3080 and above
and very good memory, if you can
stark phoenix
im getting around average 100 to 80 and lowest at 50 to 60 fps range at lowest setting render resolution 100, 1080p. is this normal?
on bf2042 ofc
midnight crypt
maybe
tender socket
https://tenor.com/view/thermi-nvidia-gpu-580-480-gif-19880982
Argentinian "asado" be like
my pc in summer be like
pale quartz
im getting around average 100 to 80 and lowest at 50 to 60 fps range at lowest s...
yes, you have a laptop, not a PC
the hardware is limited so you will not get desktop class performance
stark phoenix
would having 6800hs and 6700s give bit more stable lowest frames than the current setup
like minimum upto 70 or 80?
pale quartz
most likely not
it's a laptop, the game demands a pc for adequate performance tiers
if you're meaning the zephyrus g14 however, the 6800s will boost your performance, but probably not by what you're expecting
misty wadi
and very good memory, if you can
I have 32gb ddr4
pale quartz
I have 32gb ddr4
CAS latency and transfer clocks, not size
misty wadi
I have gaming so prob good i like to have 100fps but prob i need to upgrade my rtx2060 for that then haha but 85fps is good playable
pale quartz
uh.. they aren't specifications
tender socket
a intel core i7 10700k for 43000 argentinian pesos (215 dollars) is good?
misty wadi
uh.. they aren't specifications
toxic wigeon
Holy the G502 is a bit heavier than the G203.
And by a bit, Thrice as heavier lmao.
pale quartz
And by a bit, Thrice as heavier lmao.
it has a lot heavier internals
what makes up the vast bulk
toxic wigeon
Yeah.
It's on special so I'm seriously considering getting one.
By the way.
@pale quartz Linear is a bit easier to press over clicky, Right?
pale quartz
in terms of time for the switch to receive the signal yes
clicky is mechanical so there's a delay before the receiver actually "receives" the press
toxic wigeon
Ah alright.
storm osprey
Holy the G502 is a bit heavier than the G203.
brick mouse that has the options for more weights, insane
pretty sure its twice as heavy as most modern fps mice without weights too
toxic wigeon
pretty sure its twice as heavy as most modern fps mice without weights too
So it's the lighter mouse in comparison to other options? Haha.
How long have you been using it?
toxic wigeon
i had a g502 for about a year, g203/g pro for about 3 years
502 yeah.
How does it stack up against the g203?
G203 might be super lightweight but how does the G502 stack up against it?
storm osprey
imo different use cases... entirely. g203 could be considered a budget fps mouse thats simple and small. g502 is an all around mouse thats massive and ergo
sensors are the same, iirc the clicks are about the same (most logi mice have the same clicks anyway)
toxic wigeon
Talking about Mice. I always wonder what's up with the micro jumps?
It's annoying when I try to aim.
I'll try to show what I mean.
toxic wigeon
YES.
Screw it.
This is what I mean with the microskips, It becomes a larger issue over a longer range.
Is this tied to sensitivity or my mouse? Settings in game is 75 sens with 800 DPI.
digital hill
I kinda don't know
midnight crypt
i chalk it up to the game being wonky
it gets worse the longer the game is active for me
stark phoenix
if you're meaning the zephyrus g14 however, the 6800s will boost your performanc...
yea i meant the g14. since i heard the game is pretty cpu intensive and from my experience the cpu that im using right now has pretty bad cpu performance(which is i7 9750h). since 6800hs according to others is an amazing cpu, i thought it would improve my experience alot. Thanks for the answers tho!
pale quartz
molten flame
iirc Ryzen 6000 at 35W will perform similar/better than Ryzen 5000 at 45W
and with both at same power limit, a 6000 series CPU should have about 10% higher single-thread performance and like 20% more multi-thread
storm osprey
cool it properly and should be fine for 95% of games
stark phoenix
it runs like a 20 yr old honda
most of the games are fine
but on 2042
the 4 cores really shows its age
molten flame
i7-9750H has 6 cores/12 threads
storm osprey
9th gen i7 is not 4 core
stark phoenix
does it?
well that was a clown
is it cuz of small cache?
cuz the cpu really struggles to run 2042 sometimes
storm osprey
2042 is just a tough game to run
molten flame
2042 will prefer an 8 core over a 6 core, really helps with the frame drops
stark phoenix
i hate how i got to love this game smh
how would g14 with 6900hs and 6800s run 2042?
molten flame
laptops have slower RAM than equivalent desktop PCs, and RAM bandwidth has a huge affect on CPU performance in BF2042 and BFV
molten flame
what do you have now
molten flame
good to have 3200 MHz with at least CL16 timings
pale quartz
laptops have slower RAM than equivalent desktop PCs, and RAM bandwidth has a hug...
not the case here
the g14 uses DDR5, so bandwidth isn't an issue, just laptops aren't ideal for massive games like 2042
molten flame
DDR5-4800 has a lot more bandwidth than high-end DDR4
stark phoenix
alot of sodimm 3200 i see are cl22 hmm is 3200 cl16 not normal
molten flame
I think getting a Ryzen 6000 laptop would be a good upgrade, DDR5 for longevity
pale quartz
it is a good upgrade, but its not "gaming" in terms of an upgrade
those don't exist in the laptop sphere
stark phoenix
i mean i believe even 6700s is pretty good upgrade from 2070 maxq
in terms of performance
pale quartz
RDNA2 upgrades are in efficiency, not power
molten flame
Nvidia laptop GPUs with Max-Q are often very power limited
pale quartz
they draw significantly less power, they were never designed for brute force on laptops
stark phoenix
i mean yea they dont perform like god or anything
but 6700s still seems like a decent upgrade that would improve my experience
especially that cpu that comes with it
also it just seems like my dlss is not doing much
pale quartz
DLSS doesn't do anything for 2042
stark phoenix
it doesnt?
pale quartz
it's a CPU bound game, DLSS is useless as it only helps with GPU bound situations
stark phoenix
crap
molten flame
DLSS focuses on increasing average framerates, it doesn't help much with stutter afaik
stark phoenix
more reason to get g14
i can consider getting a more beefy and strong laptop but since im in uni and i need to bring that thing to my lectures in and out cant do that
pretty sad
pale quartz
I have the zephyrus 2022 anyways, you won't regret buying it
molten flame
very sleek
pale quartz
it's mostly the battery life you're buying into
molten flame
you think 3D cache will find its way into a mobile CPU soon?
molten flame
yeah seems like Zen 5 is the turning point for lots of new advances
stark phoenix
i have seen a rumour that zen 5 is likely to get 3d cache again
stark phoenix
wow i really screw numbers here and there
pale quartz
vcache for z5 on socs does exist but don't be expecting it till after next year
Zen 4 it doesn't exist
unless there's a change of plans anytime soon put it that way, it'll come to desktop parts only
mainly cause stacking cache on mobile is infeasible + little point
molten flame
5800X3D is gonna be able to compete with Zen 4 in some games, especially the games that like cache
pale quartz
it will not
where it will compete is in the lows, but not the averages
cache or not the uplift for Zen 4 is too big for the x3d to compete
stark phoenix
rumour from a amd employee says 3d cache is not a one time thing
pale quartz
it was never a one time thing lol
stark phoenix
but we just dont know when its coming
pale quartz
and that was never a rumour
vcache has been designed and tried for years, its always been AMDs long term strategy
stark phoenix
i just saw a post about it saying that
pale quartz
posts are never true
stark phoenix
🗒️
pale quartz
it's coming to GPUs, CPUs on AMDs platform in the future, it has always been what they have been aiming for
minus MCM anyways
stark phoenix
i just wonder if they are gonna impliment it on mobile processors
pale quartz
as I said it's not happening till Zen 5
pale quartz
so at a minimum 2024
molten flame
RDNA3 may not have more than 1 GCD
pale quartz
RDNA3 may not have more than 1 GCD
it does only have 1
Navi 31 anyways
the MCMs are tied on the same die
molten flame
Navi 31 is a big fat fuck
800mm^2 single die
probably not that big
RDNA3 info is up in the air, I've seen a lot more details about N33 than N31/32
stark phoenix
thinking positively i can at least turn on the game and run it so i shouldnt be complaining 
thank you guys for all the answers
might get back on 2042 again now
pale quartz
RDNA3 info is up in the air, I've seen a lot more details about N33 than N31/32
n31 is 450
there is a 7950xt that exists, but it won't launch unless required
tldr
pale quartz
uhh not sure about full shaders
molten flame
All shaders would probably be reserved for Radeon Pro series lol
That 12288 shader count leak seems legit but not the 384-bit memory bus lol
I hear that the memory interface will be in chiplet form so I guess it's possible?
quick locust
strong breach
Oh hey cool
proud trellis
that’s actually really handy for me for my media studies in school
storm osprey
gimps been around for a while now
wet notch
i heard bad things about gimp
back when i was looking for a free to use photoshop alternative
storm osprey
ive only used gimp for super basic stuff and it was fine, granted ive not touched photoshop in some 15 years as well
midnight crypt
gimp is perfectly fine
naive wraith
It's entirely inferior to Photoshop but for free software you can't complain
wet notch
true
molten coral
fringe depot
Dude use photopea.com , very similar to PS
molten flame
wanton summit
hey question i have an IntelCore i7-8700K in taskmanager it show's me 12 core but if i google it its says it only has 6 sow how many do i have now ? XD in device manager it also shows me 12
pale quartz
hey question i have an IntelCore i7-8700K in taskmanager it show's me 12 core b...
6
you have 12 threads, not cores
molten coral
^
simple delta
I have a question, does it make sense to activate DLSS in 1080p in Battlefield 2042 with low graphics?
quick locust
which cpu/gpu
molten flame
I have a question, does it make sense to activate DLSS in 1080p in Battlefield 2...
No the game is CPU bound, DLSS is only going to benefit 4K resolution
Also the lower your graphics settings and resolution, the worse DLSS looks
simple delta
Thank you! :)
simple delta
which cpu/gpu
rtx 2060 r7 2700x
wanton summit
hmm still havin the low fps warning in 128player games, should i upgrade my pc or just wait for performance patches, the laggs kinda ruins my motivation to play.
storm osprey
99% sure there wont be performance patches that increase it considerably
maybe 10% at best
wanton summit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz nvidia gtx 1080 16gb
molten flame
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz nvidia gtx 1080 16gb
GTX 1080 is fine for BF2042 at 1080p, i7-8700 being a locked CPU means it won't boost very high and this game really likes fast cores and 8-core CPUs
wanton summit
GTX 1080 is fine for BF2042 at 1080p, i7-8700 being a locked CPU means it won't ...
alright, im gonny buy a new cpu then, but i never bought one, any recommandations ?
molten flame
128 player battles is very CPU demanding, I could recommend a CPU with over 8 cores or a lot of cache
molten flame
alright, im gonny buy a new cpu then, but i never bought one, any recommandati...
tell me you RAM configuration
also if you want to upgrade, probably Ryzen 7 5700X with a B450 or B550 series motherboard if you looking for value
for optimal performance you need at least 16GB RAM in dual channel mode at 3000+ MHz
wanton summit
i dont know if that is the ram config , BankLabel Capacity DeviceLocator Tag
BANK 0 17179869184 ChannelA-DIMM0 Physical Memory 0
wanton summit
woot
molten flame
how many slots does is say in use
wanton summit
1 out of 4
molten flame
yeah that's an issue
single-channel RAM is gonna experience awful performance in BF2042 and BFV
wanton summit
ohhh
storm osprey
basically any game for that matter
maybe not awful performance in general, but youre leaving performance on the table going single channel
wanton summit
XD. yeah i bought years ago a prebuild pc, im not an expert in pc setups
molten flame
don't get another stick, just get a new pair of 2x8GB 3200 MHz also I would still recommend a CPU upgrade because the locked i7-8700 won't cut it for 128 player battles
RAM is the cheapest thing you can upgrade, so I'd do that first and see what it does for you
wanton summit
yep i will do that,
i hope i dont have to buy a new cpu since my motherboard doesnt support better once i think
molten flame
what motherboard chipset is it? H310? B360? Z370?
wanton summit
H310-M PRO-D
molten flame
yeah I would not put anything like i9-9900 in that motherboard
VRMs would burn over time
a new worthy CPU upgrade is gonna require a new motherboard
wanton summit
and a new power supply ?
molten flame
not if you go with a Ryzen CPU
CPUs like 12700K and 12900K would need a new power supply maybe since those can go over 200 watts
wanton summit
alright
molten flame
even a Ryzen 5 5600 is a big gain over a i7-8700 but that's still only a 6 core CPU
wanton summit
Ryzen 7 5700X did u recommend ?
molten flame
yes with a B550 motherboard
wanton summit
467,89 € cpu + board
molten flame
if you want Intel, I recommend a i7-12700F with a MSI B660M Mortar motherboard
wanton summit
501,21 € hmmm not much difference
molten flame
can't find performance numbers for BF2042 but here is BFV
Intel 12th gen usually 5-10% faster than Ryzen 5000 unless you're talking about the 5800X3D which is the king
storm osprey
isnt the 12900ks a little faster? but the price in general not being worth it
wanton summit
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 XMP 2,0 High Performance for 65 euro
saturday i will get them
molten flame
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 XMP 2,0 High Performance f...
push your luck for a 3600 MHz CL16 2x8GB kit
it wont run at that speed on a i7-8700 but it will be there for your next CPU
(unless you next CPU is on a DDR5 motherboard)
wanton summit
Kingston FURY Renegade 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz DDR4 CL16 for 80
molten flame
Kingston is very mid
wanton summit
😄
molten flame
I recommend brands like Crucial, G.Skill or even Corsair is better than Kingston
wanton summit
Corsair Vengeance would cost 100 G.Skill Trident is 120
pale quartz
also no, a GTX 1080 is not enough for 2042
especially not when you're upgrading the rest of your components, a 3070 will be mandated, most likely higher
molten flame
GTX 1080 will still be good as long as he's not running all settings at ultra
medium settings is perfect imo
pale quartz
it isn't going to be optimal at high nevermind ultra
and it's going to be pegged at 100%, it's not adequate
a 1080 isn't a 1080ti, you're talking about 2060 class performance
wanton summit
i just dont want 30 fps + laggs ^^ 60 player is fine on low settings
ivory creek
i get 60fps at all times at medium settings 1080p with my gtx 1070 in bf2042. but yeah id also go higher if i was buying something now
molten flame
when I tried BF2042 with R5 2600 + RX 580, I was CPU bottlenecked at 1080p medium settings
RX 580 way slower than a GTX 1080
locked i7-8700 is pretty comparable to a R5 2600
wanton summit
i get 60fps at all times at medium settings 1080p with my gtx 1070 in bf2042. bu...
with a 1070 damn something is wrong with my pc ^^
if the new ram gonna give me better performance , i upgrade the rest later this year
molten flame
note that you won't be able to use that DDR4 RAM with any future AMD motherboard (AM5 socket), and I hear that 13th gen Intel will be bottlenecked by DDR4 bandwidth
13th gen supports DDR4 it will just be a lot slower than DDR5 especially since 700 series boards will support 8000+ MHz DDR5 OC whereas current 600 series only can get to around 6400 MHz before it shits the bed
wanton summit
so that means if i get now 3600 mhz cl16 2x8gb later i have to change them if i go higher then ddr 4 ?
molten flame
DDR4 is still viable especially for current systems it's just it will be a limiting factor for next-gen hardware
like I probably wouldn't run DDR4 with a 13700K or 13900K, but it might be feasible with a lower tier CPU such as i5-13400
wanton summit
still dont get how he gets stable 60 fps with an 1070 at medium
molten flame
well you have single-channel ram so you're not gonna have good performance regardless
molten flame
@wanton summit I gotta add, your H310 motherboard maxes out at 2666 MHz ram speed
wanton summit
thats not good ^^, i got now 2x 8 gb c16 3600 is that a problem ?
molten flame
Nah you can run run it at 2666 MHz and maybe have tighter timings but getting 3600 MHz is just to ensure that your next CPU has decent ram to use
wanton summit
@molten flame alright, do i have to install or change some settings when i put the new ram in ?
molten flame
Any RAM kit above 2666 MHz will automatically scale down to 2666 when XMP is enabled in BIOS, which is the default top speed limitation of H310 chipset
wanton summit
ok thank you
cosmic warren
if you want Intel, I recommend a i7-12700F with a MSI B660M Mortar motherboard
so not kristofer yee but Kristofer G yes?
storm osprey
so not kristofer yee but Kristofer G yes?
ah i see youre a man of culture as well
prime jasper
question for bf3; "Multiple Direct3D loaded-A" i get this message from PunkBuster after i play 2-3 minutes and kicks me...anyone knows what it is? i updated punk buster by the way
humble iris
Graphics card prices dropping faster then gas prices increasing. LMFAO !!!
prime jasper
Hey nerds
prime jasper
question for bf3; "Multiple Direct3D loaded-A" i get this message from PunkBust...
Have you tried to verify thr game files?
prime jasper
I can't remove the scroll wheel option
I just had to remove my scroll wheel. Solved the problem.
ivory creek
the nvidia gpu prices are still above release prices here, and thats years later and just months before the release of a new series. with all that considered its still quite absurd
prime jasper
the nvidia gpu prices are still above release prices here, and thats years later...
Ok I have been saying for over a year that GPU prices will never be the same. No longer will we be seeing $700 USD high end GPU's. Performance has increased, demand has increased, and supply is diminished. All I have said has been obvious, and nothing will change, even if there is a massive supply.
wanton summit
@molten flame damn dude just got my 2 new ram. went from 35 fps to 80-100 fps in 128 player . i didnt thought it would change that much !!!
wanton summit
@toxic wigeon what do you mean ? sry my english isnt that good
toxic wigeon
<@267109533388636160> what do you mean ? sry my english isnt that good
I meant it in a bit of a "Wow that's an improvement huh" bit.. Yeah.
wanton summit
@toxic wigeon oh yeah , i suffered enough i think ^^ im lvl 92 now and played with 35 fps max. ppl start teleporting around at this point ^^
elfin wing
hey guys i need some help. when i try launch battlefield of origin it wont do past the splash screen. just gets stuck and closes. anyone know how to fix it. Iv updated everything and still no progress
spark burrow
is anyone else getting a glitch where your camera glitches out
like my character is spinning like crazy
and ive rebooted and everything
fallen harbor
is it reasonable to wait for the 4000 series instead of buying a 3000 now? is it safe to assume the prices will still go better and crypto keep dying?
or should one buy now asap?
proud trellis
im waiting for 4000 series but its up to you
i don't think its that long till 4000 series are announced but i could be wrong
molten flame
there might be another shortage when RTX 4000 launches but it shouldn't last near as long as the one we just got through
fallen harbor
oic
prime jasper
I see we have many of the "waiters". I can't stand the "just wait" mentality.
humble iris
Now here is some real tech worthy news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFdgymosszA
prime jasper
The best headphone for BF are Air Pods Pro Max.
light wave
there might be another shortage when RTX 4000 launches but it shouldn't last nea...
Should I wait for 4000 series? 3090's here are 1300 euros and going lower.
molten flame
RTX 4000 is gonna be a larger performance leap than we saw from 2000 to 3000 series, it's worth waiting 3 months for but it could easily spark another shortage because of demand
light wave
RTX 4000 is gonna be a larger performance leap than we saw from 2000 to 3000 ser...
Right, well, I'll just keep dragging on with this 3070 until demand goes low enough for the 4000 series cards I guess.
molten flame
RTX 4070 would be a huge upgrade
light wave
I'd be going for a 4090, I want my next upgrade to be the top of the line
molten flame
RX 7900XT then
light wave
RX 7900XT then
Sadly I'm sticking with Nvidia because I'm a massive raytracing addict.
Plus I'll be streaming so I'll still want NVENC
molten flame
RDNA3 is gonna have over 3x higher ray-tracing performance over current RDNA2, I think it could even compare/beat RTX 4000 in ray-tracing
talking ~3x more Ray Accelerators than the RX 6950XT, plus 2nd gen RT cores
light wave
Tbh I worry about streaming my VR stuff, because I have a friend running a 6900XT and he's getting a few disconnection issues once in a while
molten flame
yeah Nvidia has better support currently for VR but that could change next-gen
light wave
Ah I see, then yeah, I'll take the safe route and wait and see.
molten flame
I think RTX 4090 will sell out and be in limited supply for 2-3 months
same with 4080 and possibly 4070 too
same will happen with RX 7000 series too
molten flame
I hope RTX 4090 isn't higher MSRP than 3090
I already know that 7900XT will be higher than 6900XT
light wave
I hope RTX 4090 isn't higher MSRP than 3090
Honestly I don't think, seeing how mining is dying out at the moment
Nvidia knows their main audience beyond miners won't really afford it.
prime jasper
I plan to do two 4090's because one is for noobs. Lol need that 3 more fps with the 2nd gpu.
molten flame
4090s won't be able to link together for gaming loads afaik
light wave
I plan to do two 4090's because one is for noobs. Lol need that 3 more fps with ...
More GPU =/= more fps
molten flame
only in compute workloads
light wave
Your game needs to support the link too.
prime jasper
I know..I am just kidding..I know what I am talking about. I am not 13
light wave
only in compute workloads
Is it still called SLI?
prime jasper
You want to set yourself up for disappointment? Read any tech rumors.lol
molten flame
Nvidia wants to make multi-GPU support exclusive for professional GPUs and remove support from GeForce GPUs completely
I don't think any RTX 4000 series will have NVLink
prime jasper
Rumors said they will...according to igors lab
But..i dont care the slightest...i will just wait until they come out and then see
humble iris
GPUs are so powerful, and high power draw there is really no point in using 2. and then the only reason for using 2 would be because you have the most powerful and its and not enough, so 2 4090's = ridiculous power draw, and heat. I guess the only use for multiple gpu would be some kind of AI applications or something. definitely not gaming.
prime jasper
I would just have 2 to flex on console players..
Seriously though. I will go with one single prob. Will only have 10k to spend this year on toys, so I have to be wise.
light wave
I would just have 2 to flex on console players..
Platform elitism is such a thing of the past really
I don't really get it.
Each has its usecase
humble iris
Depending on the motherboard, and other things, 2 GPUs can actually gimp performance
light wave
I sit on my console when I can't be bothered to get out of bed, I use my PC for VR and other things.
humble iris
You can still build SLI profiles, but there really is no support
prime jasper
Platform elitism is such a thing of the past really
I am jk..I have a console as well...xbox one...lol
light wave
I am jk..I have a console as well...xbox one...lol
That's cool then, but I see a lot of people saying this unironically
Even irl friends
prime jasper
I know...that is why I said it. People say it all the time..console has its place, and so does pc.
I like to play racing games on my console..and everything else on my pc
humble iris
I would say if all you do is play games, then a PC is a waste of money.
light wave
I would say if all you do is play games, then a PC is a waste of money.
Not necessarily, console VR is immature at best for now
But yeah that's a fringe case.
humble iris
Ahh VR, yeah I did that 30 years ago
prime jasper
I love VR..MSFS 2020 and DCS world are awesome in VR.
humble iris
I got into the early stages of Nvida 3D surround, then Nu VR showed up, I just do the regular 3d gaming
prime jasper
I was into the Nvidia surround..with the cool glasses. Lol
humble iris
Saffire Rapids X got pushed back
light wave
The RAM I have is literally 50% off now
prime jasper
I feel bad for the middle class, and lower class. They are the ones hit the hardest...breaks my heart
humble iris
yeah the ones that actually make a difference
prime jasper
YES!
humble iris
the greed is out of control, and it will roll back down hill on the oppressors , I'm just talking crap. lol...
I'm super excited about GPU Audio
prime jasper
I will have to look into the GPU audio thing Didnt really read about it
humble iris
Audio processing on the GPU, kind of like video rendering on the GPU as opposed to CPU, like NVENC
I don't think my current plugins will take advantage of it, unless they build some kind of software to force current plugins to utilize the GPU.
I've already downloaded everything, just need to test it all out.
humble iris
yup , I first SLI'd 2 8600GTs, then 2 8800GTS 512's, then 3 GTX 285 FTW's, I still have most of it.
in fact I still have a 9800GTX+ in like new condition, with lifetime warranty
I did 2 GTX 780s as well
still have them, 1 dead, 1 like new
prime jasper
If I listed all the GPU's I had I would be here all day. Lol. I don't upgrade like I did before..anyone.
humble iris
I have a working GTX 285 FTW 2-Way setup with Windows XP, with an X-FI card for old school gaming.
humble iris
If I listed all the GPU's I had I would be here all day. Lol. I don't upgrade li...
Same
I have a ton of stuff all theway back to WIn 3.1 maybe even older
prime jasper
What was your best rig? Mine was Tri-SLI GTX 580 Ultraclassified. I was in the top 10 in the world on 3dmark11 with those. Lol
humble iris
Mine was probably my Nvidia 780i with Q6600 overclocked to 4.0GHZ, 2 8800GTS 512 SLI, and held, and still hold records for that rig. Then I did 3-Way SLI GTX 285 FTW, with i7-920 ovewrclocked to 4.5GHZ had some good 3D Mark records, might still hold some.
prime jasper
Nice!
humble iris
Actually it was 3.5 GHZ not 4.5 I dont remember how high I got it to, but here's the oldest benchmark I could find. https://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4495517
Heres my same system when I upgraded to a single GTX 780 FTW, and beat out 3 GTX 285s https://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5026730
when SLI started to not make since
Ahh here I found an even older benchmark, 3dMark06. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/7041844
brazen veldt
can i run the game on Yo can i run bf2042 with a rx580 ryzen 7 5700g and 32gb or ram ? ?
humble iris
can i run the game on Yo can i run bf2042 with a rx580 ryzen 7 5700g and 32gb or...
I don't know if that would work very well, but it seems to meet the minimum requirements, I would not expect to max the settings.
brazen veldt
i mean on low settings
humble iris
CPU seems to be really good, yeah I would say 1080p and start with low settings maybe see how far you can get it.
I think if you purchase the game you have a limited time to refund it.
molten flame
RX 580 will work for low/medium settings
pale quartz
can i run the game on Yo can i run bf2042 with a rx580 ryzen 7 5700g and 32gb or...
you can "run" the game, don't expect to run it well though
vast dichotomy between both of those
pale quartz
Nvidia wants to make multi-GPU support exclusive for professional GPUs and remov...
not exactly, it's more complicated than that
Nvidia supported SLI is also a driver commitment for development on geforce, which they haven't done now for well, pascal era times
it was relegated to the back of the queue then abandoned, they did try to make SLI work, but it was never popular with gamers, nevermind developers
nvlink only existed between it was, and still impossible to unify VRAM across multiple cards via PCIe, which was the whole reason why SLI was used
crystal inlet
WHY DOES THIS FUCKING GAME KEEP KICKING ME OUT OF SERVERS 2 MINUTES AFTER I JOIN A GAME. WHAT THE FUCK DUDE
quick locust
can i run the game on Yo can i run bf2042 with a rx580 ryzen 7 5700g and 32gb or...
That's quite a weird combination
molten flame
problem with 5700G is having half the cache that the 5700X/5800X has, that can have a huge effect in CPU bound games like BF2042
RX 580 is the limiting factor of that system though
quick locust
Yeah all of the current monolith they have now are like that
molten flame
I imagine when Ryzen APUs go MCM, CPUs won't have reduced cache anymore
I think it'll be a while before APUs are MCM
Intel will have iGPU chiplets first in Meteor-Lake
fallen harbor
is bf2042 any better optimized now than the couple of months after release?
i remember everyone say it was poorly optimized
that it ran at a lower framer rate than it should
proud trellis
is bf2042 any better optimized now than the couple of months after release?
i think its just still the same
when i played it last week i was still on about 55-70 fps all low settings which is the same settings i used when it first came out
molten flame
GTX 1630 draws up to 50% more power than the RX 6400, while being slower than the GTX 1050Ti
supple mica
!bf5stats xbox Dofoohlt
quick locust
Wrong chat
molten flame
Ryzen 6000H series laptops pretty disappointing
Ryzen 6000U seems like the best option
quick locust
Better than my 3700U
terse glade
Nvidia GPUs are overclocked by default already hence the increased power consumption in comparison to AMD gpus
It's all a clown show
quick locust
Nvidia GPUs are overclocked by default already hence the increased power consump...
They all have boost by default
terse glade
Ye but AMD suck less power on same fps so they do something wrong at Nvidia
Especially with the new 40s series
They don't even care about power consumption
Assuming we all live rent and utility free in mom's basement?
toxic wigeon
I just hope 850w is enough for an x3d and a 3080 combined.
plucky token
I just hope 850w is enough for an x3d and a 3080 combined.
Should be
My pc with an oced i9 and 3080 only goes up to 680 ish.
quick locust
midnight crypt
good riddance
quick locust
Why? It's one of the few non chromium browsers
There's just Safari, Firefox and small Linux ones
molten flame
bruh I just tried out Apple Airpods Max (fuckers are over $600), I think my old $80 Razer Kraken headset has better sounding bass lmao
pale quartz
Ye but AMD suck less power on same fps so they do something wrong at Nvidia
it isn't down to overclocking, rather down to architecture
AMD cards are also overclocked for AIB models, just RDNA is designed to be incredibly power efficient for integer executions, amperes design goals (and Lovelace) are not one of efficiency but rather pure power, so power consumption takes a back seat
molten flame
Also wasn't Ampere originally designed for TSMC 7nm node? I think Ampere would be far more efficient than RDNA2 if that were the case
pale quartz
Also wasn't Ampere originally designed for TSMC 7nm node? I think Ampere would b...
the original architecture was designed, but not implemented with 7nm in mind
Samsung's nodes aside, ampere wasn't built for efficiency to begin with
sure tsmc would have helped power consumption but it would still lose to RDNA in terms of per watt
molten flame
Yeah Nvidia and TSMC came to disagreement about wafer prices while Ampere was in preproduction
pale quartz
more Nvidia tried using their market position to force TSMC into a special favourite deal
molten flame
Yeah leveraging lol
pale quartz
which TSMC turned down, unsurprisingly
molten flame
TSMC has Apple to play with, so they can care less about what Nvidia wants
pale quartz
it did work in the past when TSMC weren't as big as they are now, but Nvidia have 0 leverage over them, times move on
molten flame
TSMC's future is looking kinda grim, specifically because of the arising tensions between China and Taiwan. I just hope any of those fabs don't get destroyed in a potential invasion
pale quartz
TSMC's future is looking kinda grim, specifically because of the arising tension...
it is antithetical for any fabs to be destroyed
molten flame
China knows the value of those chip facilities and wants to use them for their own profit but those fabs are very delicate, a bomb going off a kilometer down the road could ruin a clean room
pale quartz
I mean even if they took over Taiwan they still couldn't use them
the nodes are highly specialised, to the point that the only people who could actually develop the manufacturing are the employees, rather than any random Joe off the street
molten flame
Ik but I don't think China would interfere with the workers unless they turn them into prisoners/slaves or something lol
pale quartz
good luck forcing a whole bunch of people, who left the country, to return back
TSMC employees are one of the highest paid in terms of the development industry, they're pretty wealthy by themselves
molten flame
So TSMC is completely done for if China invades?
pale quartz
no it's the other way round
people only think of China invading Taiwan in terms of politics, what they don't consider is TSMC is the reason why they wont invade them
China depends on TSMC nodes as much as everyone else, and they're well aware that taking over Taiwan means an end to that
molten flame
TSMC is the largest asset in terms of chip production
pale quartz
precisely
molten flame
So we would only have Intel and Samsung left to rely on if that did happen lol
GloFo under the bus
pale quartz
which also depend on TSMC, ironically enough too
molten flame
Lmao
Intel relied on their own fabs for so long but they only started outsourcing because introduction of dGPU market, they didn't want GPUs to take wafer allocation away from CPUs I guess
prime jasper
Anyone else run tails os?
quick locust
It's not really for normal usage
midnight crypt
why care about ps3 emulation
quick locust
It's one use case some might utilize
If you don't then just ignore it, like other benchmarks in fields you don't use
daring scroll
I keep getting a DirectX error upon starting the game, anyone knows how to fix it?
CreateComputePipelineState
is what it says
daring scroll
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/DirectX-error-DirectX-function-g-dx12...
Not fixed, I have a GPU which is supported 2070Super, tried everything and still not working
prime jasper
Not fixed, I have a GPU which is supported 2070Super, tried everything and still...
Read the whole forum
daring scroll
I did, the registery change tried aswel
prime jasper
I did, the registery change tried aswel
Hmmm nvm wait for someone to help you
weak flame
bruh how do u increase gpu usage and decrease cpu usage?
molten flame
bruh how do u increase gpu usage and decrease cpu usage?
Either upgrade your CPU or maybe your RAM configuration is holding back the CPU
fallen harbor
ello
is there any good mid high end (affordable good quality) headphones that anybody would recommend?
storm osprey
hd 560s
toxic wigeon
Hyper x alphas are pretty decent too.
storm osprey
thats a headset though
toxic wigeon
Isn't a headset and headphones the same thing.
storm osprey
headset is with a mic, headphone is without
toxic wigeon
Mm it goes either way. xP
storm osprey
its generally used interchangeably
toxic wigeon
Eeeeeeeeeee.
storm osprey
usually i have to clarify, but i thought ando knew
pale quartz
Mm it goes either way. xP
both are wrong actually
the term is just to describe the audio output
head"phones" were used to identify stereo based devices, as only expensive headsets had that capability
where the loose terminology came from
storm osprey
when googling "headphones vs headset" every single source says what i said
there might be some sort of origin story or technicality, but as far as the general public is concerned a headset is a headphone with a mic
median egret
Where's the best place to ask for some help with an issue I'm having with the game?
storm osprey
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fallen harbor
thats a headset though
i meant headset, sorry
median egret
I just keep getting either the persistent data error or an empty game, I can't find any games with players
storm osprey
i meant headset, sorry
so you want a gaming headset? hyper x cloud, pc37x, or pc38x (eppos pc38x comes in black),
fallen harbor
ok ty
storm osprey
Sadly I think the pc37x and p38x are not really viable to buy outside of USA.
storm osprey
Idk what this is compared to other products but that sounds cheap
fallen harbor
3 min wages sounds cheap?
what im saying by this is that the price of that headset is equal to the amount of money of the min wage in my country multiplied by 3
the hyper x cloud has a good price though
fallen harbor
what im saying by this is that the price of that headset is equal to the amount ...
if the min wage in your country is 1000 usd, it's as if they were 3000 usd each
storm osprey
when people say minimun wage here we are talking about hourly, so like 10 bucks an hour
so when i hear "something costs 3x the minimum wage" i think something costs about 30 bucks
fallen harbor
ah i meant monthly min wage
the money you make in 3 months as min wage
i legit dont know who here would buy those
storm osprey
thats an odd way to measure minimum wage, is that normal there?
humble iris
if the min wage in your country is 1000 usd, it's as if they were 3000 usd each
Personally I prefer the Sound Blaster Blaze "Headset" Keep in mind this is an actual headset (3.5mm/1/8" Jacks), and not a "USB Soundcard Headset"
It's also cheap, but sounds great. (With a decent sound card)
fallen harbor
thats an odd way to measure minimum wage, is that normal there?
yeah i always forget it's not how it is normally measured in other countries, sorry
fallen harbor
Personally I prefer the Sound Blaster Blaze "Headset" Keep in mind this is an ac...
cool ty
molten flame
RTX 4000 series can't have hardware chosen merely for total system power draw. Now more than ever, you need to pick a hardware combination, more specifically a PSU that can accompany the very high transient spikes that will happen.
These spikes have started being of concern since at least the GTX 1000 series, and has only gotten worse since, as we see with RTX 3000 lineup.
Potential delay rumors solely because of Nvidia trying to get a handle on the transient issues of LoveLace Ada. Seeing spikes of 2x, to 3.5x with AD102 chip for RTX 4090.
humble iris
I use a powerlink, It helps a little bit, it's mostly for aesthetics, but it contains capacitors for power filtering.
light wave
RTX 4000 series can't have hardware chosen merely for total system power draw. N...
There's no way I can power a 4090 with a 850W ROG Thor, is there?
toxic wigeon
I'm not even sure that you can pair a 4080 with a decent CPU with a 850W slot.
molten flame
There's no way I can power a 4090 with a 850W ROG Thor, is there?
Not even a 4080
light wave
Not even a 4080
Gotcha, would I be good with a 1200W unit?
Same Thor, just higher capacity.
molten flame
Should be
light wave
Thanks, until then I should be getting new headphones, Asus makes crappy ones
Loved getting my eardrum blasted and seeing them heavily smoking on my head
humble iris
It seems we need to bring back dual PSU builds
light wave
Damn shame this only comes in the 1000W variant
humble iris
Maybe even start putting a 2nd power main, 1 for the house 1 for the GPU
molten flame
Nvidia AD102 has TGP of ~600W
AMD Navi 31 has TGP of 350W supposedly, but I think it will go to 400W
AMD should be alot more efficient next gen
humble iris
Damn shame this only comes in the 1000W variant
if you are going for 4000 series, make sure to get the new connectors
light wave
if you are going for 4000 series, make sure to get the new connectors
Is that something that could be supported by current PSU's? Or would I need to wait for a new revision of those Thor PSU's?
humble iris
Is that something that could be supported by current PSU's? Or would I need to w...
Not which ones have them
I'm sure there are adapters
light wave
Yeah I heard adapters and PSU's are not the best match
humble iris
they are usually fine if used correctly, but yeah it's best not to use them
this article is a little old from Feb. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidias-12-pin-power-connector-will-work-with-next-gen-pcie-5-psus
molten flame
From what I know RTX 4000 is on PCIe gen4 interface
light wave
Ah I see
humble iris
From what I know RTX 4000 is on PCIe gen4 interface
are they using the old 8-pin x 2 connectors? or the new 12-pin
molten flame
@humble iris they are using a 12+4 pin for Founders Edition RTX 4090/4080
humble iris
or I think even a 16-pin
humble iris
<@234137509334876161> they are using a 12+4 pin for Founders Edition RTX 4090/40...
yeah that
molten flame
PCIe 5.0 power connector but the actual graphics interface is limited to PCIe 4.0 afaik
humble iris
PCIe 5.0 power connector but the actual graphics interface is limited to PCIe 4....
still plenty more bandwidth then needed
molten flame
Yeah but I think PCIe 5.0 will benefit Resizable BAR or SAM, which is likely why RX 7000 series has full PCIe 5.0 support
humble iris
can't you just set the shader storage really high on your PC so they are all cached
ohh I guess this does more then that
My CPU is too old to support my GPU with RB
light wave
Just crank it to unlimited 
humble iris
I set mine to 10GB but it never uses anywhere near that
but I guess it still access it from the SSD
light wave
light wave
%LocalAppData%\NVIDIA\DXCache
humble iris
mines 359MB, but I have not played much since I reformated
light wave
Mine's probably much bigger because I play VR
And Vanguard has a crapload of shaders going on.
humble iris
there are more then that folder
humble iris
I forgot how find them all
I think just search for shader
I have 700MB just for 2142
yeah just type shader in your windows explorer search this pc
then Control A, right click propereties
I have shaders in 3 or 4 drives
molten flame
Wait the shaders are stored in drives... that can't be fast at all
light wave
I mean, Vanguard does a good job with the method its using
The only chugging you'll see in that game is when shaders are actually being compiled
And that's on every driver update.
humble iris
Wait the shaders are stored in drives... that can't be fast at all
best to use SSD for shaders, they are stored on drive as far as I know which is where this resizable bar comes in to play
they are stored in cache folder and loaded into memory directly instead of waiting for them load while in game, makes for smoother game play, kind of like a ram disk I'm guessing.
not sure if its Vram or System ram
I just know its better
pale quartz
Just crank it to unlimited <:troll_lolez:802371066583711786>
doesnt do as youd think, shader cache is stored on demand
setting it to unlimited doesnt do anything
light wave
doesnt do as youd think, shader cache is stored on demand
I know, I was dumbing out
Hence why my cache folder is 3.4gig anyways.
So even me setting it to 10 is probably more than it needs
pale quartz
Yeah but I think PCIe 5.0 will benefit Resizable BAR or SAM, which is likely why...
RTX 40 has 5.0 support to assist with VRAM bandwidth, resizeable BAR isnt connected with this, it is an interface type deployed on the software stack
they are different things
quick locust
Shaders, the bane of my cpu
exotic valley
I mean, Vanguard does a good job with the method its using
Warzone, Vanguard and blackops seem to always want to compile shaders when launched ( not every time but quite frequently even without driver update ) very annoying
dry pike
@silk linden Heyya, just thought I would let you know. Found my memory leak, seems the drivers for my Stream Deck was the cause, reinstalling it seems to have fixed it. Thanks for poking me about it.
silk linden
<@272875632088842240> Heyya, just thought I would let you know. Found my memory ...
RIP, glad you got it fixed <3
ancient kettle
Guys help
My monitor has no signal
Ive cleaned the ram and the ram slots and tried switching sides but still no signal
The problem is either the hdmi cable or the monitor
midnight crypt
did you plug the hdmi cable into the gpu?
barren trail
I got low GPU usage with bf2042 around 40-60% while all other games i get 97-100% anyone has same problem?
Got i9-10850k and rtx 3080 tuff
eager sun
I got low GPU usage with bf2042 around 40-60% while all other games i get 97-100...
the game is cpu limited, low gpu usage with something like a 3080 is normal
barren trail
Ah yes 10 cores and 20 treaths isnt enough for my 3080 smh
eager sun
Ah yes 10 cores and 20 treaths isnt enough for my 3080 smh
bf2042 and any other game doesnt care about more than 8 cores and 128player servers will lead to cpu limitation
barren trail
bf2042 and any other game doesnt care about more than 8 cores and 128player serv...
my cpu is around 20/40% usage while gaming bf2042, play at 1440p
Even a game like total warhammer is using more so its their part
eager sun
my cpu is around 20/40% usage while gaming bf2042, play at 1440p
being cpu limited doenst mean that your cpu has to run at 100% -_-
barren trail
No but 20% either
eager sun
cpu usage doenst tell you anything, you are cpu limited and it doenst matter what cpu usage number you see in task manager
barren trail
Got most of my cores at 5,2 ghz
eager sun
you are cpu limited just like everyone else in bf2042
when you switch to 1080p you should see basically exactly the same fps compared to 1440p
another clear sign for cpu limitation
barren trail
Should i upgrade or wait until they improve?
eager sun
Should i upgrade or wait until they improve?
you cant really blame the game in that way, 128player servers will always be a cpus nightmare and you will always end up being cpu limited with <100% gpu usage
a better cpu would help but spending at least 400€ for 12th gen and a b660 board prob isnt worth it
barren trail
Nha
eager sun
ofc you would still be cpu limited then
barren trail
Only game where i have this problem
humble iris
Only game where i have this problem
Are you getting low framerate or something?
humble iris
1440P that seems fine. do you have DLSS and RT on?
humble iris
okay, yeah your frames are fine. are you maxing all the settings.
barren trail
Ye got ultra not costume dont using hboa (srry if name is wrong) on max
humble iris
Nothing else you can do then.
delicate kindle
My 2042 is basically unplayable, my i7 processor is always at 100 percent and causes crazy lag and rubberbanding while my gtx 1070 is at like 50 percent...
storm osprey
i mean... and i7 2700 is not the same as an i7 12700
delicate kindle
7700
storm osprey
yea 7700 is a 4c8t cpu, thats going to struggle in a lot of modern games, especially 2042
pale quartz
Ah yes 10 cores and 20 treaths isnt enough for my 3080 smh
yes that 10 core which by today's standards is 25% less in IPC lol
molten flame
a i9-10900K should be enough for a RTX 3080 in 99% of games especially at 1440p
BF2042 is an exception
that game just wants to eat CPUs
pale quartz
same as cities skyline Microsoft flight simulator cyberpunk insert x other heavy CPU bound game
pc market getting too brainwashed by core counts and big numbers
molten flame
the 5800X3D is a no-brainer if you play cities skylines and flight sim
barren trail
same as cities skyline Microsoft flight simulator cyberpunk insert x other heavy...
Cyberpunk and flight simulator works perfect with my i9-10850k and 3080 so 🤷🏻♂️
pale quartz
yeah just with the slight caveat of 20% reduced performance
more even
stop expecting high GPU utilisation, it correlates nothing to your performance
molten flame
Cyberpunk and flight simulator works perfect with my i9-10850k and 3080 so 🤷🏻...
did a little searching, at 1440p with a i9-10850K you're gonna be CPU bottlenecked with a RTX 3080 majority of the time, especially when comparing to Intel 12th gen CPUs
barren trail
Ah yes but when i play with it i get like 97-100% with litterly every game i play at 1440p 165hz so hm 🤦🏻♂️
pale quartz
"so hm" yeah big shocker but you're playing majority GPU bound games
molten flame
it's not a major bottleneck or anything
pale quartz
battlefield isn't one of them
for the amount of pc elitists that exist it is absolutely hilarious that the majority of users don't know their own pc
quick locust
my little bonfire
molten flame
also I imagine he lowers his graphics settings when performance isn't right, creating an even bigger CPU bottleneck
pale quartz
gotta make yourself feel better by thinking you know what you're talking about for making up for the thousands of dollars you sink into a pc and don't get the bajillion frames you expected
pale quartz
considering 128 players is barely in the game anymore it's not a concern
molten flame
lol
128 players is dumb anyway, basically like having 2 normal Battlefield matches going on in the same map
pale quartz
can't wait for 10th and 9th gen users to cry about "game optimisation" with games like starfield
"my 9900k which is 40% slower should perform grrrr!!"
molten flame
i7-9700K users with 8c/8t gonna be coping hard
barren trail
<a:kekswatching:717546101636333650> gotta make yourself feel better by thinking ...
Got my i9-10850k really cheap for 200 euro bc when 11 gen came out they wanted the 10th gen away what was a win win for me i guess
molten flame
that's good value, Microcenter kind of deal
barren trail
Local Hardware store
storm osprey
when i hear hardware store im thinking this dude found a cpu next to the drills and hammers section
molten flame
lmfao
barren trail
Ah yes being mean because I'm not the best at hardware makes you feel good right? I only wanted to ask if other people had the same problem
storm osprey
... idk how that was your conclusion
where im from a hardware store sells tools and shit like hammers and drills, so when i read your sentence i thought you went to something like a home depot and found a cpu there
barren trail
No we dont have that here
storm osprey
just a difference in culture and how i was confused, wasnt making fun of you
barren trail
Maybe should have said local IT shop or something
storm osprey
i can understand what you meant, just for a split second i was confused
pale quartz
I deleted the folder.
yeah bad decision lol
it's a normal folder
used by Microsofts services for verifying integrity
pale quartz
if your pc locks, you know why
toxic wigeon
Err how do I recover.
pale quartz
well you cant
those are encrypted keys and you destroyed them
tldr don't mess with things
toxic wigeon
To be fair my assumption was that I was compromised since I never signed up for that shit.
How do you set your computer back to a certain date?
I know that it can be done.
pale quartz
they are encryption keys
there is no such thing as turning back they aren't included in system recoveries
toxic wigeon
What do I do now?
pale quartz
well pray that you don't get locked out, and if you do wipe and reinstall
tldr
let this be a lesson in not snooping around
toxic wigeon
Mhhh rip.
So there's no way to get them back other than restarting your computer.
To be If it wasn't under "crypto" I wouldn't be so hesitant. -.-
pale quartz
I mean you kinda did it yourself so
toxic wigeon
Tada found it in my recycling bin.
pale quartz
well that's not the end of the story for you
assuming one of the services tried calling them anyways
if it did you've broken keychain trusts so they'll need to reconnect
toxic wigeon
Can a ten minute differential be bad no matter what?
pale quartz
meh I mean I have no idea it's impossible to know if a service called them
toxic wigeon
Yeah true.
Should have first asked "what the fuck is this"
Lmao.
If it was called encrypted or some shit I wouldn't have thought "Ah"
pale quartz
appdata is a read only folder applications can't modify them without admin execution
toxic wigeon
Alright.
digital hill
wrong chat
delicate kindle
my cpu was performing bad, so I figured out it was only using 1 out of 4 cores
so i set it to 4
and now it's always at 100 percent usage
wtf is going on??
pale quartz
wtf is going on??
there is no such thing as "setting it to 4"
what you did in reality was disable 3 cores
switch it back, your processor is just weak
molten flame
New RTX 4000 rumor:
RTX 4070, 160-bit, 10GB
RTX 4070 Ti, 192-bit, 12GB
delicate kindle
switch it back, your processor is just weak
Dude my cpu has 4 cores
I looked it up
this video said to set number of processors in msconfig boot to 4
since it was only using 1 of the cores
pale quartz
since it was only using 1 of the cores
yeah lol surprise not everything you read on the internet is real
msconfig disables threads, it automatically detects them at boot, stop messing around with configurations that people tell you to randomly do on the internet
delicate kindle
msconfig __disables__ threads, it automatically detects them at boot, stop messi...
ok lol
so then how do I enable the rest of my cores, I think it's only using 1 since task manager only shows 1 graph instead of 4
delicate kindle
what?
pale quartz
there is no such thing as enabling cores lol
delicate kindle
ok
Well then why is it running bad, I have an i7 7700
yes it's an older cpu
but i've seen much worse running this game
pale quartz
because its a 5 year old processor lol
prime jasper
so then how do I enable the rest of my cores, I think it's only using 1 since ta...
task manager shows total usage unless you select this, then it shows each core individually, it's using all cores. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722288006656163861/989697575395426304/unknown.png
delicate kindle
oh ok
prime jasper
right click to get the menu
delicate kindle
I still dont get why others can run the game fine with worse and older cpus
prime jasper
what's your GPU?
delicate kindle
it's hard to explain
my game "lags" such that it feels like my actions and character move in slow motion
The FPS thingy shows my CPU in the red
but it isn't using more than like 50 percent
tropic field
Has anyone else seen ads for this
https://www.amdblokmaster.com/game/?gc=1
AMD Tetris bruh
I'm dead
fresh aspen
humble iris
so then how do I enable the rest of my cores, I think it's only using 1 since ta...
You need to right click the graph and change to logical processors
never mind I see a couple users already pointed that out. sorry.
stiff zealot
guys i need help! after i do the update my mouse dont work...
toxic wigeon
How good was the i7 2600K?
quick locust
Good for its time, way better than AMDs offerings
dry pike
Nifty, xbox game bar overlay has a setting where you can see if you are ready for DirectStorage
dry pike
molten flame
Windows 11 
midnight crypt
Win 11 stays in the garbage until they make it more like 10
molten coral
I actually really like w11
molten flame
W11 is a literal bug fest
short pawn
i found installing the anermine amd driver mod on 22.5.2 stops all driver crashes in 2042 and runs smoothly
terse glade
I stay on win10 as much as I can
molten flame
humble iris
Windows is missing to much I use in my workflow, to many steps in right click menu, no toolbars on taskbar, that's the 2 most irritating things. TPM, and useless requirements. I upgraded mine back to windows 10. I might downgrade to it again if they fix it.
Oh and the required user account, you have to circumvent to create a local account
It ran fine without issues, but running fine isn't the only thing I do, I actually work from my PC.
stiff zealot
guys i need help! after i do the update (PC) i cant move my pov that mean i cant move my mouse... what should i do?!
midnight crypt
give up
prime jasper
guys i need help! after i do the update (PC) i cant move my pov that mean i cant...
Give up
humble iris
When people were buying 3000-series GPUs when they came out, this is what I think about it. lol.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfY6X0KasAc I feel like the 4000-series will be like this as well.
unique oriole
Can someone help me out
My game keeps saying this application failed to start because no qt
fossil rune
My voice chat audio is coming through a different speaker and in game stuff is coming through my headphones. Idk what to do
coarse nimbus
Shame on all of those people that do offer tech support here...the fuck guys 
humble iris
Can you imagine an actual tech-support channel here. would need a category, and a thousand sub categories.
prime jasper
_Shame on all of those people that do offer tech support here...the fuck guys_ <...
You mean the nice tech guys.
toxic wigeon
Why would you even de lid it in the first place.....
humble iris
*Why* would you even de lid it in the first place.....
That's how I feel, once I pay a premium for something, I should not have to work on it. But when it was a hobby I did all kinds of modding. It just got cliché so I don't really do much modding these days. mostly just use the hardware
toxic wigeon
Don't touch it like that just incase you break the damned thing!
The price you'll pay...
It's not worth it...
I want that damn chip so you know I'll cry if I see a broken 5800x3d.
humble iris
actually modding isn't really necessary anymore as manufacturers have got everything well taken care of. the early days were rough
humble iris
I want that damn chip so you know I'll cry if I see a broken 5800x3d.
I agree
but if you have a lot of money I guess it don't matter
molten flame
5900X3D and 5950X3D are still a possibility btw, Zen 4 on AM4 would be possible if it weren't for the IHS height
humble iris
I used to have to drill cut on every PC case
toxic wigeon
IHS?
molten flame
heat spreader for CPU, goes on top of the silicon and directly contacts the cooling solution
toxic wigeon
Ah.
Probably best to move on to a new Chip set anyways instead of paying tonnes of money on research on a type that you've kept with for what, 6 years?
Since the 1000 series.
humble iris
we did not have the internal heat spreader in the old days, just an exposed chip like Pentium 2 & 3 and such
molten flame
if AMD really needs to compete against Raptor-Lake (w/DDR4) especially in value, they need to put Zen 4 on AM4
toxic wigeon
Do you really think so? I've heard hey the 13900k is 20% faster in some random post than a i9 12 which doesn't sound too significant.
molten flame
that's at only 3.8 GHz peak for an engineering sample
the real thing will hit close to 6 GHz
toxic wigeon
Jesus.
molten flame
Also Zen 4 can hit 5.7 GHz supposedly
toxic wigeon
So saying you can use DDR4 with Gen 13, That's going to still be a major point for going for intel.
molten flame
DDR4 with i5-13400 specifically
toxic wigeon
(I'm going off with what you said so)
molten flame
DDR4 will bottleneck the K processors
humble iris
Forget the consumer grade stuff, HEDT leaks. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-sapphire-rapids-hedt-fishhawk-falls-cpu-has-been-spotted-with-16-cores
humble iris
one of the chips were leaked
humble iris
well the name sapphire is used a lot.
sometimes Saffire
the one I'm talking about is Intel's new codename
toxic wigeon
Ye.
molten flame
Sapphire HEDT only 16 cores
gonna be more expensive, slower and have less PCIe lanes than a 32-core TR 5000
humble iris
thats just 1 chip
humble iris
24/48 and 8 channel memory
some even 112 cores
that was a lower end chip, with more lanes
humble iris
nah
molten flame
once they are MCM they will be able to compete with Threadripper in performance and value
humble iris
and more cores is not always the answer
I'll take performance and quality over price
molten flame
we will never see HEDT platform as cheap as it was 5 years ago
toxic wigeon
Do we know that they'll use better materials on the 40 series gpus to compensate for the increased draw?
I remember reading that because of the 3090ti with its power draw, it doesn't sound like it'll last long really.
pale quartz
5900X3D and 5950X3D are still a possibility btw, Zen 4 on AM4 would be possible ...
they arent happening lol, 5800x3d is the only chip and thats it
pale quartz
Do we know that they'll use better materials on the 40 series gpus to compensate...
no, its just the same materials as the ref 3090, just bigger
as much as I'm sure AM4 users like being on hopium, Zen 4 was never designed for, aimed at or ever was considered for AM4, and it'd be silly to put it on the socket
pale quartz
So saying you can use DDR4 with Gen 13, That's going to still be a major point f...
using DDR4 memory with raptor lake is silly, if you're going that route your best option is not waste your money and not upgrade
molten flame
yeah SKUs like 13900K, 13700K, 13600K will get bottlenecked by DDR4
I think DDR4 will be fine for ones like 13400, 13100
people say AM4 is a dead platform, while LGA1700 looks more dead to me tbh
if you have 12th gen with DDR4 support then there's really no reason to buy a 13th gen at all
also, 600 series Intel motherboards with DDR5 support have bad memory traces and can really only handle 6400 MHz DDR5, while 700 series boards should get to 8000+ MHz easy
toxic wigeon
using DDR4 memory with raptor lake is silly, if you're going that route your bes...
Stay on a 12th gen cpu and wait a bit to then upgrade to ddr5 yeah.
If going that route.
humble iris
If the 13th is the same price as the 12th, then by all means get the newer CPU, who gives a shit if its botttlenecked, at least its not the weakest link. But that's only if you need to upgrade. otherwise just keep your current hardware.
humble iris
we will never see HEDT platform as cheap as it was 5 years ago
I don't think we will ever see anything as cheap as it was 5 years ago.
humble iris
It's in demand
When they stopped caring about HEDT, a lot of people had no upgrade path, either gaming PC, or Server PC. we need Workstation PCs, especially with all the Audio & Video Production needs lately. If all you do is play video games then consumer is fine, has enough for 1 GPU, and 1 NVMe, and plenty USB ports
molten flame
i7-6800K was a HEDT CPU that launched at just $400
then again, just 6 cores and slower single-thread than the 6700K
humble iris
Yeah I had the one before that 5930k I paid $600
the 6800k was a 28 lane CPU, I had the 5930K 40 lane CPU
Upgraded to the 6950X 10-core 20-thread 40 lane
on X99
the 6th was just a refresh, actually less powerful, slightly more efficient
molten flame
remember 7980XE and its refreshes
humble iris
I never upgraded to X299
toxic wigeon
What made the 2600 so good?