technology

[pale quartz]

assuming the 13700k

[honest sandal]

I like to waste money

[cyan musk]

yep just move on after you state a blatant lie or error

[pale quartz]

RPL will be tricky for measuring performance wise against the other stacks so i mean if youre wanting to get it then go ahead

[cyan musk]

who trained you in the art of dishonesty? it's pretty impressive, seems like you are calculating your attempts

[honest sandal]

This build is when I make the jump from 1080p 144hz to 1440p 144hz

[pale quartz]

best performance wise waiting on zen4 3d SKUs are possible

[honest sandal]

Guess I’ll have to wait and see

Good thing time is on my side

[pale quartz]

not as big a jump as youd think

youd be better off just going to 4k

especially with the doubling of performance next generation

[honest sandal]

[cyan musk]

yeah I suggest no one take this dude seriously. all he knows is lying and misdirection

[honest sandal]

Are good 4k monitors still like $1k? lol

[cyan musk]

it's no wonder I got dm'd with that very same information, because it's blatantly true

[pale quartz]

ehh like

depends what you mean by good

[honest sandal]

A lot of claims with zero actual proof to back it up, just a lot of hearsay @cyan musk

[pale quartz]

recent price spikes havent done monitors any good in the price department but OLED 4k will be coming around soon

[cyan musk]

my man, he said efps was effective speed. you can go see for yourself that it isn't

[pale quartz]

we still continuing this

right

[cyan musk]

he made a mistake and pseudo corrected himself without taking responsibility

[pale quartz]

no i didnt

why are you making stuff up, again, about what i said

[cyan musk]

so efps isn't effective speed?

[honest sandal]

Deco don’t feed the troll

[pale quartz]

ffs

[cyan musk]

because efps literally isn't effective speed

dude how am i trolling he's literally wrong

[pale quartz]

yeah ill let this go lol pretty boring low effort troll tbh

[cyan musk]

they LITERALLY ARENT THE SAME NUMBER

you're kinda a pos deco

trying to act like your errors don't exist and blaming them on others

[pale quartz]

uh.. right anyways

[cyan musk]

is effective speed and efps the same thing??

[pale quartz]

@honest sandal QD-OLED is coming around, right about.. now actually

[honest sandal]

Last I looked at monitors a good 4K ips with a decent refresh rate, and hdr was like 1200

[pale quartz]

so by the time you get the parts itll drop in price

[cyan musk]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-the-effective-CPU-speed-index/55

proof that deco is wrong

[pale quartz]

will be more or less top of the line in the monitor department minus other monitors taking on QD-OLED but i dont anticipate theyll come around probably till q1 2023

they're in production but they'll be expensive as their samsung/LG panels

[cyan musk]

is something wrong with you deco?

all you seem to do in convos is pretend you didn't say anything and then make blatant errors and ignore the facts that disprove you

and because you're a regular, even though you're apparently known for saying dogshit, people automatically assume you're correct. even though you were literally wrong.

effective speed is used to estimate differences in efps, but they are not the same thing. to be incapable of admitting to even a single error is laughable

but oh well. its cool to lie and be dishonest, but trying to hold a liar accountable is trolling

[proper skiff]

yo guys

lets tone it down ye?

[cyan musk]

Twiggs this is bullshit man

[proper skiff]

no need to be hostile

[cyan musk]

he literally lies and tries to blame others for his failures, he's essentially a glorified troll

[pale quartz]

ty twiggs

@honest sandal wasnt actually sure myself tbh on the price department rn doesnt seem great, 4k 144 will be pretty expensive

[cyan musk]

deco be like: I was wrong I gotta get the fuzz here to stop before people turn on me

[honest sandal]

Yeah they’re not cheap lol

[proper skiff]

aight guys

take a deep breath, relax

[pale quartz]

i think $1k is probably optimistic tbh

for 2023 anyways

[cyan musk]

personally I think 1440p 240 hz is all youbneed for now

[pale quartz]

$1.3k? more likely

[proper skiff]

you can provide the correct info without being asses about it

[cyan musk]

the problem is that he's gaslighting and dishonest consistently

he didn't even post anything to backup his claims

[honest sandal]

Yeah that’s more than I want to spend on a monitor

[cyan musk]

in fact, the two things he did post disproved him

[pale quartz]

on the pretty exp side tbh

inflation etc $1k id hazard defo wont happen

[cyan musk]

he said that he didn't say they changed effective speed. to prove that, he posted a video about how they changed effective speed. amd then he says that efps is effective speed. but it isn't.

[pale quartz]

id be surprised if so cost components are already going through the roof

[cyan musk]

he even tried to claim efps doesnt* uses latency, but the thing he posted to prove it doesn't even mention latency. in fact, it also disproves his claim that efps = effective speed

[pale quartz]

im getting pretty tired of this and it will be my last comment on the matter, the website changed effective speed into the efps benchmark when they switched it over (because you said it didnt exist), seriously, drop it

[honest sandal]

You know what deco I’ll continue this in a few months when there’s more information out as it’s all speculation at this point, I just know I’d rather go 1440p 144hz if it’s half the cost of 4K 144hz

[cyan musk]

efps isn't effective speed.

[pale quartz]

how about UW 1440p?

[cyan musk]

effective speed is used to calibrate efps. that is all. you are literally wrong

[pale quartz]

worthy of consideration

[honest sandal]

Possibly

Iirc there’s still a good selection of games that aren’t a fan of the resolution

[cyan musk]

oh well. weird how I'm supposed to assume I'm wrong despite evidence but deco gets to be lauded as correct...despite evidence

[pale quartz]

in the performance department yeah thats definitely true

if you go full UW youll be pushing harder than 4k for rasterisation

[honest sandal]

Yeah at point I’d rather just go regular 1440p

Because I gotta have them sweet fps

[pale quartz]

most (>2015 games) fully support it though only niche outliers nowadays that dont

fallout 76 etc

[cyan musk]

probably a lot of non aaa games still have trouble with it I'd imagine

[honest sandal]

That’s fair as well

[pale quartz]

from that pseudo in parts list you sent if youre upgrading to next gen 144 frames wont be an issue at all

[honest sandal]

TBF I mostly play AAA games but good callout

[pale quartz]

especially at 1440p

[cyan musk]

I got a g7 odyssey and it's pretty damn good even though it has some flaws

maybe the g9 is almost perfect at that rate

[honest sandal]

The g9 is like $2k

At least the one I just saw

27” asus tuf 1440p 165hz is like $330

[cyan musk]

yeah the best monitors are expensive. the g7 sometimes goes on sale for like 550 though so maybe affordable

[honest sandal]

I have a 38” 4K for work

This is purely gaming

I’ll also need to buy a new monitor arm if I get a UW

[honest sandal]

True

[cyan musk]

4k is too much for gaming right now. maybe next gen it will begin to be good, but I dunno

hard to get 144 fps at 4k in modern games

[honest sandal]

That’s my concern with 4K

[cyan musk]

I wish they didn't kill sli....such a sad world

[honest sandal]

I feel like 1440p 144 is that sweet spot RN

The big issue with SLI is the game had to be developed for it

[cyan musk]

g7 is 1440p 240hz so it's a but future proofey

[honest sandal]

Well was

[cyan musk]

also yeah, I wish they could just make multiple gpus a basic thing that doesn't require development time

I could've sworn dx12 wanted that sort of thing...easy multi gpu stuff

[pale quartz]

it didnt

[cyan musk]

I totally trust you

[pale quartz]

DX12 allowed for multi tiled rendering through agnostic based GPU processes, but it was an optional API

[cyan musk]

oh, so easy multi gpu stuff

[pale quartz]

and the prior issue remained that it needed to be integrated by x game developer

which none of them did minus a few niche titles

[cyan musk]

still easier lmao??

[honest sandal]

That would still require some level of development work but probably not as bad as doing it for SLI versus whatever AMDs was I guess?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale quartz]

SLI wasnt so straightforward

people assume the reason it died was because it required developer integration, which wasnt actually the case

it was because nvidia implemented 4 different rendering algorithms into what SLI could actually use, and you needed to choose one, and one only, which was incompatible cross generation

CFR etc

[honest sandal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

So nvidia made multi gpu shitty got it

Thanks nvidia those fucks

Okay

[pale quartz]

pretty much

[honest sandal]

It’s my bedtime

Deco shouldn’t you be sleeping

[pale quartz]

they locked off CFR for GPUs to access which more or less spelt the doom in like 2020

[honest sandal]

Isn’t it like 4am

[pale quartz]

it is but im on holiday

so im sleeping in

[cyan musk]

so...it died because of a developer integration problem

[pale quartz]

actually yeah i might regret this ive got stuff to do in the morning, night

[honest sandal]

I wish they would’ve been able to take the ownace off the developers though

Kind of shit

[cyan musk]

dx12 would've helped to do that a bit

but alas, I guess they didn't care enough to do it even so

[honest sandal]

Well we will see if they ever add it back later

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale quartz]

they wont

itll be killed off next generation

[cyan musk]

they might, depends on if they can make money off of it

[pale quartz]

they tried, they did try to have it be seen as a unified GPU, but its out of nvidias control

[honest sandal]

I’ll kill you off next generation

[pale quartz]

windows API's were never built to handle segregated memory pools for rendering prior to dx12 and it was impossible to rectify

[cyan musk]

nvidia probably wants to avoid lower tier cards from having multi gpu because it could dissuade people from buying their overpriced higher tier cards

[pale quartz]

you run into race conditions corruption etc total mess to do right

[honest sandal]

That’s honestly pretty valid

[cyan musk]

yep, it was a pro strategy to get two like xx70 cards and beat a xx80 ti card

[pale quartz]

they did after turing launched

pascal it was never a consideration

would have had problems architecture wise, they would definitely have preferred to lock down pascal more if they could for multi GPUs but technical limitations tldr

[molten flame]

https://twitter.com/Locuza_/status/1522054886573101057

There is a lot of juicy, intricate details in here about next-gen Radeon RDNA 3.

-New Optimized ways to perform shading/lighting/antialiasing/aliasing
-Removed unoptimized code, due to new tech
-Fix bugs related to shading/lighting/antialiasing/aliasing
-Color calibration for all monitors will be more native, fuller, and cover the entire color spectrum.
-Old legacy code/ancient code is now obsolete, as new code will take place.
-New ways to generate objects will come soon.

[pale quartz]

theyre mostly just driver revisions for RDNA2+ to replace GCN equivalents

[molten flame]

It mentions GFX11 so often which is Navi 31 GPU

[pale quartz]

none of this is RDNA3 specific, well, feature wise anyways unless AMD pull a fast hat with locking them

which wouldnt surprise me one bit considering they pulled it for ryzen

[molten flame]

RDNA3 does have lots of new hardware on-board so wouldn't surprise me to see it have exclusive software features

[pale quartz]

based on the cache code it seems like navi 3 is having problems with inter core MSAA rendering, corruption it seems like, not too surprised

few minor IF cache increases exclusive to navi 3 to be expected interesting stuff overall

[molten flame]

I've heard there's no L3$ present in the RDNA3 GPU dies themselves, all the L3 is V-cache

That would save die space

[pale quartz]

wouldnt surprise me

segregating the L3 on MCM doesnt make too much sense when they can just unify it

[molten flame]

Navi 21 chip without L3 cache would be about 20% smaller

AMD has patents on technology where 3D stacked chips can be used to bridge other chips together

[pale quartz]

Navi 21 isn't that big to begin with it's more down to manufacturing costs

MCM has double well, everything, segregating the cache on those modules means AMD would double their base costs for production when unifying it only increases it by say 20% than 100%

also race condition issues which make L3 segregation mostly impractical minus some niche onboard processing cases

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6950xt-features-navi-21-kxtx-gpu-supports-hynix-and-samsung-18gbps-memory

6950XT is based on KXTX chip, not XTXH

[mystic jolt]

i have somewhat of an issue, after playing BF 1 in 1080p resolution at 170% upscaling, going back down to 100% (which i presume is native res of ones monitor lol) made my game a bit more blurry. Is the cause of turning upscaling down making my game more blurry? ty

[midnight crypt]

yes

might just be the TAA though

[mystic jolt]

Oh got it. I noticed TAA is a pain in the ass for the most games when it comes to being blurry. Any way to turn it of? Or upscaling is the only solution?

Probably going to get used to it but i'm asking for the sake of curiosity

[quick locust]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[quick locust]

Yes most games has option to use another AA or none

[mystic jolt]

yikes, can't find it in the settings, still thanks tho!

[midnight crypt]

you cant turn it off

actually might be able to by editing the settings file

[molten flame]

👴 🦻

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-ryzen-6000-series-receive-displayport-2-0-ultra-high-bit-rate-uhbr-certification

"The higher bandwidths enabled by UHBR support a variety of use cases such as uncompressed 8K 60Hz HDR, 4K 240Hz HDR, two 4K 120Hz HDR or four 4K 60Hz HDR displays through a single cable."

Ryzen 6000 series is pretty incredible in terms of I/O

[pale quartz]

it's due to the fact AA is not dynamic and occurs only once during the rendering process, using the assigned resolution you have given it (170% US), so when you are returning back to native resolution the rendered bitmap textures will be out of sync in bit proportion, to properly adjust for this you need to ensure what you are upscaling by is proportional to your native resolution (normally by a factor of 2x (200%)), so that when the downsampling occurs TAA blocks segment in right, it isn't a total solution but it should correct most of the blurriness

[mystic jolt]

Thanks for such constructed awnser. What you're saying is that I have to find a sweet spot between game not being too blurry and being comfortable with my FPS? Or should I just crank it up to 200% (which basically devourers FPS) and work on reducing my video settings?

[pale quartz]

not so much actually I can walk you through a different solution using raw mathematics which will appease both these concerns, so generally what you need to aim for when upscaling, is considering what resolution when upscaling occurs you will hit, so for example currently 170% of 1080 is (170% of 1920)=3264 pixels (90% of 4k resolution), which the game assumes is its native resolution (it is not able to tell the difference between upscaled and native resolutions), so when you turn it off and go back to native, the game has also rendered TAA using 3264 pixels for AA, you can rectify this by aiming for upscaling to 1440p or 4k itself by dynamically adjusting the slider where it is currently, which will allow a smooth transition (4k is 200%, for 1440p you must target 2560, the closest is 133/134% in a decimal format)

anti aliasing by itself is a tricky algorithmic topic to cover as a lot can influence what you perceive on your screen but generally if you follow these guidelines it will produce better results

[mystic jolt]

Ahhh I see. I just need to know what resolution I'm aiming for. Doing so, will minimize overall blurryness depending on which resolution i've upscaled my native 1080p monitor. In simpler terms, bigger resolution = less blurry, thus i have to know which one specifically i should choose, depending on my preferences

Hope I've understood that right hahah

[pale quartz]

correct, it's often overlooked but it's actually critical to how downsampling computes data

by that the more "custom" your upscaled resolution is the more difficult it is for anti aliasing e.g. SMAA/TAA to accurately scale that data down correctly (if it reloads, BF1 does not, so it's not applicable to this)

[mystic jolt]

Could you please clarify what do you mean by ''reloads''?

[pale quartz]

sure so AA is, across games, never built equal

there are generally two approaches I briefly allured to earlier, that is one is dynamic, and the other is a one pipeline occurrence, the first means that AA will constantly refresh it's source data stream continuously, for well, ever, meaning it is able to accommodate fluctuating resolutions (as it refreshes it's rendered bitmaps, GTA does this approach), it has performance penalties however, and the second is where the game will process AA only once, normally before you join a game, BF1 etc do this and it will not refresh the bitmap allocations again, has performance improvements to it, as you can see it's a pros and cons type situation

the second approach also goes by what's called prerendered data

[mystic jolt]

Battlefield 1 being the second approach to AA is letting you have more custom downsampling because of it processing AA only once, without refreshing the bitmap, right? Or is it the other way around?

[pale quartz]

other way round

[mystic jolt]

Now it makes sense. I've even might learned something today lol. Thank you a lot champ 🙏

[pale quartz]

no worries

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-desktop-arc-will-be-china-exclusive-at-launch

Arc GPUs China exclusive

[quick locust]

Not for me

[storm osprey]

razer teases viper min pro, about fucking time

[quick locust]

👀

update

[dry pike]

I bought something stupid. I needed to buy for 4 euro for free shipping so I bought a 4 euro RGB Anti-sag bracket for my GPU.

[storm osprey]

my anti rgb rage is building

[eager sun]

Seems like the best thing he could have bought for 4$

[storm osprey]

in n out burger...

10x over an in n out burger

[eager sun]

Definitely going to use some anti sag thing in my next build as well

If i dont switch to a benchtable as a „case“

[molten coral]

Gonna build my next PC as small and boring as possible.

[storm osprey]

whys that?

[molten coral]

Mainly because of the space

Also haven't really been using RGB at all

But probably won't be upgrading anything for 3-4 more years though

unless my GPU finally gives up the ghost

Can only use 2 ports on it

so if 1 more port dies I'm gonna have to replace it

[eager sun]

I can prob keep my next gpu for 10years as i will stick to 1080p. I dont think something like a 4080 will struggle with that like ever

[molten coral]

I've a 2080ti paired with a 32:9 screen

It works but FPS isn't always great

[storm osprey]

im kind of worried where my pc will go when we move

[coarse nimbus]

the...gpu from the screenshot challenge?

[molten coral]

Yes

[coarse nimbus]

how many problems have you had with that thing

[molten coral]

Too many

[coarse nimbus]

apparently the sweepstakes supply of GPUs just means the lemon bin

[storm osprey]

it was a dev kit gpu that wasnt supposed to be sold or anything

[lofty light]

I'm using a 2080ti with my 21:9 3440x1440 screen, with visuals maxed out on newer games I normally get ~70 fps

[toxic wigeon]

I would love to make just a small Box.

[storm osprey]

My regular sized case was a bit warm with my hardware, I’ll never go small unless it’s a mid tier pc

[quick locust]

Boom goes the Razer

[humble iris]

Gaming laptop?

[quick locust]

Thin and light one

[humble iris]

Reminds me of the Dell laptop I got my mom, she was complaining it was burning her fingers when she typed, I didn't think much of it, and told her it was normal. Until it quit, it was melted inside. I later found out dell was taking them back and they were mysteriously disappearing and never making it to Dell. If you search they managed to hide all of it on the internet.

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-tech-tips-meme-dell-review-gif-19417328

[humble iris]

https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/07/7325/

I had actually read that peoples houses had burned down from them.

I hate laptops

Was that yours that caught fire?

[quick locust]

Nah, I found it on reddit

Battery blew up

[humble iris]

Ahh well thats good, glad you didnt have that happen to you.

[lofty light]

I was close to buying a Razer Blade

[quick locust]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ulutj3/kde_connect_is_now_officially_available_on_the/

its pretty cool

[cosmic warren]

How do i fix "You've been kicked by punkbuster in BF4"?

anyone?

[quick locust]

!!punkbuster

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ If you're having problems with Punkbuster, we recommend following this community-made guide to installing and using it! https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/

[quick locust]

@cosmic warren

[cosmic warren]

K tanks

dang it updated the punk booster and it still kick me

[prime jasper]

is a 12600k good enough for 1440 gaming with a 3080?

[quick locust]

yes, it's quite decent for vast majority of games

[cosmic warren]

so best setup so far for BFV and older BF games

would have to be 980 ti, 3700x, 16gb ddr4 3000

just solid performance

[storm osprey]

im not even sure how to start a response to this

[supple bane]

let me guess. you have a 980ti, 3700x and ddr4 3000?

the best setup for bfv and older bf games would be a 6950xt, 12900ks, and ddr5 ram :)

[storm osprey]

5800x3d*

[supple bane]

sorry yes

forgot that existed

[storm osprey]

bfv loves AMD hardware

[dry pike]

While techdemos always look better than the games end up looking like - this UE5 demo is still crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2paNFnw1wRs

[supple bane]

if it werent for the section where it suddenly becomes night, i wouldnt believe this.

[dry pike]

Indeed, day looks real, night just looks extremely good

[supple bane]

the flashlight ruins it.

the light isnt perfect on the close objects. if it wasnt for that i would call it photorealistic

[toxic wigeon]

What do you think of that card by the way? I'm thinking of getting one much later on.

[humble iris]

Hey guys what's your take on Intel Chipset drivers, I have read that there really is no drivers, just INF files which are identifiers, and the SetupChipset.exe does not really install any actual driver, just labels basically. I spent a good amount of time trying to locate drivers for my system over the years, and keep it current. Intel no longer has any Chipset Downloads for my system. In fact the latest Chipset driver for my system does not contain the INF, or catalog files. I have kept an archive of most of the SetupChipset.exe for the past 8-14 years. Just wanted to hear some thoughts on this subject. And is there really any need to waste time looking for latest driver.

[still rampart]

Hello anyone here know how to add data to firebase? I am looking for help with creating a book review app

[storm osprey]

top 3 gaming cpus, in that realm its the cheapest afaik, id get one on sale though if i had a 5600x

not that its necessary in just about any scenario besides someone wanting the absolute best

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah for sure.

Just need a good fan and set!

But first we do everything else.

[humble iris]

♬♫ Never gonna level up ♪♫ Never gonna get the role ♬♩♪♫ Never gonna copy & Paste any pictures ♬♫♪

[honest sandal]

Just nitro boost, this server is p2w

[humble iris]

Yeah they said you get the role of regular just for chatting, but I doubt it, unless you talk 24/7 I guess

[honest sandal]

It takes a long time to get

[humble iris]

like years?

[honest sandal]

For some people yes

[humble iris]

I hate not being able copy and paste a pic of something, so boosting gets you a role?

[storm osprey]

regular is now automated

!!regular

[silent oasis]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[honest sandal]

Yes

I’m not a regular

[storm osprey]

if i had to guess regular takes 2-3 months to get as long as your fairly active

[humble iris]

I see you have a boosted and Nyphon has regular

[honest sandal]

Yep

[humble iris]

I've been here a while, I changed my name once, maybe thats why

[storm osprey]

i doubt that matters, but the automatic regular system hasnt been in place for that long

[honest sandal]

It’s based on your discord Userid which doesn’t change

[humble iris]

I hate spamming for no reason

[storm osprey]

just find people to argue with

[humble iris]

not gonna do that

[honest sandal]

Join the shit show that’s #general

[humble iris]

just not gonna

[honest sandal]

There’s dozens of us

[storm osprey]

yea tech isnt really an active chat

[humble iris]

I know you guys are on here quite a bit, I try to start convos about stuff, and try to help people

I used to be Mr_Scary

[honest sandal]

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-im-excited-to-see-you-cat-sunglasses-cool-gif-14502281

[quick locust]

https://www.neowin.net/news/epic-gpu-deals-amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt-under-msrp-for-just-850-6950-xt-at-msrp/

[eager sun]

Is nvidia on holiday or why does a 3090ti still cost 2200$

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-announces-may-23-computex-2022-keynote-the-company-will-present-the-latest-products-for-gamers

May 23 for Nvidia "to present the latest products for gamers"

RTX 4000 announcement?

[honest sandal]

[prime jasper]

I need help, at my friend the character stops running, the w button is somehow not correctly working in battlefield V , does anyone know the solution ? we tried already nearly everything but nothing is working

[molten flame]

AMD is going to reveal more details about Zen 4 and RDNA3 at Computex on May 23

Nvidia is probably going to reveal details about LoveLace architecture as well

Doubt there is full product announcements

[pale quartz]

it depends, it's common for intel to discontinue and stop providing chipset drivers for very old platforms as they are baked into windows updates due to them being considered legacy pieces of software, chipset driver updates normally patch out big security issues (which intel are pretty prone to), but not for older platforms as they remain unchanged, tldr, you'll be fine just leaving it

[cosmic warren]

why my game for bf3 it just says "Details" instead of "play"?

[prime jasper]

can someone give me tipps fo leveling fast in 2042?

[quick locust]

Go to #battlefield-2042

[midnight crypt]

play the game

theres no trick to lvling

[grim abyss]

Keep getting this...anyone know a fix?

[molten flame]

Basically saying your RTX 3070 ran out of video memory and caused a crash, likely a memory leak or something idk

[molten flame]

Pretty common error for laptop RTX 3070

Also common error for people with an unstable overclock on GPU

[novel hound]

okay so my dumbass thought oh lets download battlefield 4 on ea cause i had the xbox game pass

and of course because its ea, it doesnt open, when i try to close ea it says "please close the running game/application before exiting the app" but there is nothing open

[lavish pond]

BFV is using only 1 core...is there a fix?

[weak girder]

do you have stuttering?

and low fps?

[lavish pond]

stutters for 5 secs in the beginning and then its smooth.. i get good fps somehow

i noticed its happening in all games.. utilizing just 1 core, while giving me the best fps.. its weird

[weak girder]

then theres nothing to do

the stuttering for 5 secs is normal

the map is loading in

[lavish pond]

ive seen other people with same cpu get all cores utilized

[weak girder]

the game will use whatever it needs and whatever is available

just watch whats in the background ig

[lavish pond]

okay

[nocturne dirge]

yo can i get some assistance trying to launch bf4 its not launching properly it comes up with this error message saying {"error";"external service is having some issues","error_description":null,"error_codes":null,"code":106128}

[quasi vortex]

this is happening to me too starting bf2042

[nocturne dirge]

im trying to start bf4

[quasi vortex]

it works

[nocturne dirge]

bruh

I FIXED IT

[storm osprey]

Update on this dude… he just asked if he should get a single stick of 64gb ram…

[toxic wigeon]

I like the idea of the 12900K but jesus christ it's overkill.

But jesus.

@storm osprey What GPU is he getting?

[proud trellis]

wut

[storm osprey]

No idea yet, just going off his other meme shit it’s going to be something like a 3090 ti

[toxic wigeon]

He has to be meming.

[storm osprey]

Dude in another server said he was going to build a pc, i offered to help and he said “this is my day job”, find out he works in cyber security and thinks that’s applicable. He then goes on to pick a 12900k and asks if a single stick of 64gb of ram is good…

[storm osprey]

I fucking hope so. Likely he’s the kind of guy to just drop money and use that status to justify his build.

[toxic wigeon]

Thing is. A 12900k would be something for productivity right?

Doesn't sound like he needs that power to begin with anyways.

[storm osprey]

He won’t answer if he’s using the pc for productivity.

I still tried to help with asking what it’s for, resolution, hz, etc. no response.

[toxic wigeon]

It'll last him for sure but God damn.

He's probably like that kid that buys those expensive lego sets from random themes and expects it to fit.

[storm osprey]

I can only hope he somehow ends up using the money he spends.

[toxic wigeon]

Which reminds me.

Yeah.

I hope he can get something that works and won't blow up in his face.

[storm osprey]

That single stick of 64gb though… my god

[toxic wigeon]

Yes, Single channel ram best thing.

As much as we laugh at intel. Is 10th gen genuinely one of better gens in your guys' view?

[molten flame]

10th and 11th gen are similar in gaming (10th gen is actually marginally better) but 11th gen has higher IPC so it's usually better in productivity

[toxic wigeon]

Ah fair.

[molten flame]

10th gen seems good because 11th gen wasn't anything big

[toxic wigeon]

11th gen wasn't such a massive push to be worth it.

[molten flame]

11th gen isn't on the silicon it was designed for, they used 14nm node instead of 10nm

11th gen would of been a decent step over 10th gen if it were on 10nm silicon

[toxic wigeon]

How is 12th gen then?

Is it a genuine improvement or nah?

[molten flame]

12th gen is a big step over 10th/11th gen

[toxic wigeon]

That's reassuring to hear.

[molten flame]

12900K should be around 20% faster than 10900K/11900K in gaming

[toxic wigeon]

Jesus that's massive.

[molten flame]

5800X3D and 12900KS trade blows but AMD slightly has the edge in top performance average

[toxic wigeon]

I know K is for unlocked OC but what is S?

[molten flame]

S is just the top binned SKU, usually a enthusiast model

Costs a lot more than regular 12900K for slightly higher clocks

[toxic wigeon]

SKU?

[molten flame]

Basically model/part

[toxic wigeon]

Oh so got it.

[idle dust]

how much VRAM should a modern graphics card have nowadays?

[molten flame]

Depends on resolution

[idle dust]

2K

[molten flame]

8GB for 1080p

10GB for 1440p

16GB for 4K

[idle dust]

thanks. :)

[molten flame]

8GB is also fine for 1440p btw it's just modern games are getting more demanding so wouldn't recommend maxing out graphics settings with 8GB at 2K

3080 is a perfect GPU for 1440p 144+Hz if you like maxing settings out

[idle dust]

what does the F suffix mean on Intel CPUs?

I only know K.

[molten flame]

F means they removed integrated graphics

[prime cedar]

What does this means?

Something went wrong while displaying this content. Refresh
Error Reference: Library_7243901_a6e3e03ce61dc44f
Cannot read property 'TakeFocus' of undefined

I just got this on Steam after several times trying to open BF4

[humble iris]

I have run 2042 at 4k with 2080 8GB card Medium settings.

I was trying to record the frame rate, but my FPS counter was way to small to see.

[prime jasper]

Aim acceleration on mouse in bf 1 and 5, need help as game is unplayable with this

The faster I move mouse the more it moves and more lag

[midnight crypt]

This aint tech support pal

[molten flame]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/38387/gigabyte-s-incredible-windforce-capable-of-cooling-600w-of-gpu-heat/index.html

Gigabyte thinks that will cool 600 watts...

[coarse nimbus]

rethink what "cool" means

[humble iris]

Anyone here do any video encoding?

I'm running 2 machines using h.264, both at 1080p fast.
Machine 1 = QuickSync i5-3470s (avg. 133 fps)
Machine 2 = NVENC 1650 Super (avg. 292 fps)
The NVENC machine is approx. 2.5x faster, Should I be running the NVENC machine with h.265 at very fast instead, and be getting similar quality at lower file size, and encoding faster?

[prime jasper]

Look, I know, but I tried in general and they redirected here, and these only happen in game, no menus or windows type shit, it only happens in these 2 battlefield games

[humble iris]

I know you might need to lower your dpi, or have you tried changing the mouse settings in game settings? The BF game I had issues with was 2042, and I fixed by lower my settings, and I can't remember what it was, The update now makes it feel like crap, so I just quit playing it. it has something to do with settings being too high. Might be able to search my name and find it in here.

[prime jasper]

Ok

[humble iris]

#technology message

[prime jasper]

My mouse has a physical dpi button, I tried that but it still wouldn't change

And also the raw mouse input didn't work either

[humble iris]

did you try some of things in that guide

it's a bit old, but might help you figure it out

https://progameguides.com/battlefield/how-to-fix-mouse-input-lag-in-battlefield-2042/

I have not played in a while, I still have it installed on my old os, but have not installed it on my new os yet. hopefully I don't have to try and mess with this again.

[humble iris]

I've actually put a 3rd PC to encoding on a 2080, I'll be done soon I guess just keep rolling with h.264 on this one.

[prime jasper]

cool means cold and chilled

[humble iris]

Kool

[prime jasper]

Isn't that guide for bf2042? The issue is in 1 and 5 so idk if it's gonna work the same

Sorry for inactivity btw

[humble iris]

Yeah that guide is for 2042, but might help get you in the right direction since what you are saying is the same issue I had.

Try some settings in windows mouse settings. like mouse properties as well as the driver software for you mouse. IDK what else can help. it's just one of those things you have to keep searching for the issue. Could be some kind of software or hardware conflict with the game.

Some things like iCUE and G-Hub have profiles for certain games as well that might cause issues.

[hidden basalt]

[weak girder]

nahhhhhhhh

6gb

4gb is the limit but its still enough

[molten coral]

ye 5 years ago

💀

[weak girder]

not everyone is playing at ultra settings

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66xbBtnxb5k&ab_channel=JerryRigEverything

[honest sandal]

Can you not spam? kthnx

[hidden basalt]

sorry

I will stop now

[molten flame]

[storm osprey]

another follow up, he wants a single stick of 64gb of ram now, so he can get another one later.. the reason...

[prime jasper]

Aye thx bro

[prime jasper]

if u install a confirmed dead gpu in your motherboard, will the computer be able to boot up (without displaying ofc)

[humble iris]

sometimes it will boot to black screen, but usually get some error beeps. depends on the board, and what issue the GPU has. like a dead port will boot, but no display, sometimes you can get into BIOS, but not windows. I just really depends. Sometimes get a boot up with artifacts or lines in the display. If it's straight dead and cannot be detected it will more then likely not boot at all. but again depends on the board, and if you have onboard video output, it may boot but need to swap the video port to MB I/O.

I have successfully booted PC's with no video card installed, and no onboard video, and accessed the PC through a remote service, or windows remote desktop, not easy to do without an initial GPU to set it up.

[prime jasper]

thank you now lemme get into the issue im struggling with

i have an OC rx 460, decent card been using it since 2017 or so
it suddenly stopped working for unknown reasons one day

i tried looking more into it there wasn't any sign of it fried up

it never overheated

it seems pretty intact in general

i just want to know if it's worth it to give it to some expert who can probably repair it

instead of wasting my time to get there and then finding out it's dead

thank you

[humble iris]

A card can die with no visual damage signs. you can take it apart and search for something with a magnifying glass. but it's probably going to cost more to repair it then it's worth.

Some of those older cards had lifetime warranties you could look into. not sure what brand you have.

[prime jasper]

gigabyte

[humble iris]

I've sent in old cards like GTX 285 and received fairly current replacement.

what is the full model number

[prime jasper]

warranty expired months after the incident

[humble iris]

ahh okay nevermind then

[prime jasper]

no idea

[prime jasper]

repairing fees bering more expensive than a fresh product is something that doesn't apply to where i live

im not worried about the price

[humble iris]

If you are not worried about the price, and the card has sentimental or emotional value to you, then have it repaired.

[prime jasper]

i value it just cuz im kinda broke currently

otherwise i woul go for a new gpu

ty very much

[humble iris]

GPUs are priced fairly normal at the moment

check prices on 6500 XT, and 1650 super before paying for the repair. those are newer and comparable performance.

[quick locust]

It will fail POST if it doesn't work at all

[prime jasper]

doesn't post mean display? if so the issue is i can't even know if it posts or not

[quick locust]

No, post is the self test on boot

[prime jasper]

i try to start up the pc, nothing happens

[prime jasper]

o

[quick locust]

Power on self test

You can boot it up without the gpu in

But you'll need ssh or other remote software to do anything if you don't have integrated

[prime jasper]

i have integrated

[quick locust]

Then use that

For time being

Take card out then use integrated

[pale quartz]

no it's a Rx 470 the cost for the repair isn't worth the expense on a new card whatsoever, recycle the card and get something more modern

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-cooling-heatsink-has-allegedly-been-pictured

[coarse nimbus]

Could we be lucky enough to purchase the heatsink? Without the rest of the card of course, that would be silly

[humble iris]

Excited I found this. Cutting edge technology in the late 80's early 90's
1991 Heartfield Talon IV, I've searched for this for 20+ years, I've only ever touched 3 of these now, and I own 2 of them today. Paired with the new software Achetype: Petrucci this is an absolute dream. https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/Talon-IV.JPG

And the Evil twin I purchased new 1992. Reversed headstock 91 Talon V
https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/Talon-V.JPG

[molten flame]

RX 7900XT now said to have a 384-bit memory bus instead of 256-bit, 50% more memory bandwidth than previously thought

24GB of 18-20 Gbps GDDR6

[cosmic warren]

Something wrong with the textures in my BFV game

can't tell if gpu or drivers

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpJViwtct5g&ab_channel=TechByMatt

[quick locust]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uhIBebL143Y?feature=share

[quick locust]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-1630-reportedly-in-the-works-with-a-TU117-GPU-GDDR6-memory-and-a-sub-US-200-price-tag.620359.0.html

[molten flame]

Turing with 64-bit memory bus lmao

[quick locust]

lol

[molten flame]

Slower than RX 6400, also no nvenc

[midnight crypt]

aka useless

[molten flame]

AMD X670E (Extreme) chipset for Ryzen 7000 “AM5” CPUs rumored to support PCIe Gen5 for GPU and storage, standard X670 and B650 may only support PCIe Gen5 for storage (or not at all)

[quick locust]

Competes with 6400 at last point lol

At least intel puts encoders on all theirs plus AV1

[molten flame]

6400 competes with the 1650

[molten flame]

yeah even for next-gen, think Intel will be the only company that will put video encoder on entry-level GPUs

[red rune]

Question Gpro wireless or the gpro super light I know super light is newer model and all but I see a lot of fps gamers sticking to the Orginal gpro instead of the super light when they could if they wanted too

[storm osprey]

the ONLY reason i would see going with the GPW is if you are left handed or its on a huge sale, otherwise the GPX is the obvious choice imo

[red rune]

@storm osprey got ya it’s just scary both ar almost100 and 150 dollars don’t wanna make a mistake lol but then again I can prob return it .. I’m using the g403 hero and it’s 87 grams

@storm osprey aswell as I hear some people really hate the skates n such and the weight but I guess anyone after a amount of time using the same light mouse your hand will get used to the weight and it’ll seem the same as 80g mouse untill u pick one up obviously lol

[storm osprey]

stock feet on both mice are the same, and both are just fine (i like getting corepads still), and the weight is subjective/what you are used to

though i think for pure aiming performance, scientifically speaking, the lighter the better

[red rune]

@storm osprey awesome ya I play games like squad and insurgency sandstorm

And high dpi with low in game send

[storm osprey]

as a right hand user, the right side buttons are annoying

i went with GPX and no regrets at all

[red rune]

That’s what I hear more than any other complaints lol

@storm osprey

Never regretted it lol awesome tho o appreciate it going to Best Buy as we speak to pick one up@storm osprey

[storm osprey]

hope you like it!

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKk-Fzsuq8

[honest sandal]

I’m going to go with the gpx super light because it’s $150 and the cheapest I can find a final mouse is like $250

And that’s just too Steep

[molten flame]

150 still a lot for a mouse imo

most I ever spent was $40 on a mouse

[sacred hull]

I have a GTX 1050Ti but I need better fps. Does anyone know if I can I add another 1050Ti and plug into the same monitor for better resolution as my monitor support 5K?

[molten flame]

GTX 1050Ti doesn't support multi-GPU configuration. Only the GTX 1070 and up support SLI

[midnight crypt]

SLI is also not supported by many games anymore

and even nvidia has dropped support for it

[sacred hull]

thank you. I just ordered a new card

[sacred hull]

oh damn, so stacking of GPUs is no more?

If card is too slow we need to buy a new one?

[pale quartz]

yes, SLI has been all but dead for years now

[dry pike]

Nothing is stopping companies from utilizing the DX12 multi GPU functionality. In theory you could mix AMD, Intel and Nvidia cards. It's just too hard to do for too little gain for too few people.

[midnight crypt]

sounds like theres a very good reason why its not utilized

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-reveals-x670-taichi-motherboard-design-for-upcoming-ryzen-7000-cpus

[humble iris]

Yeah we used to buy 3 cards for $1200.00, now we buy 1 card for $1800.00. They figured out how to triple their profit margin. both times.

[red rune]

@storm osprey hey just updating I love it only problem I have with it is the feet it’s so scratchy on my mouse pad unlike my g403 where u don’t hear anything and the g403 glides better over it the SL feels like it has so much friction I’m using the QcK classic cloth mousepad just don’t make sense how g403 is more better in the feet than the SL lol

Oh and aswell I took my g403 puck cuz it has magnet for 10gram weight and put it inside my super light it’s amazing

[humble iris]

It might take a while to smooth out. I wish mine was grippy like that.

[north crow]

I faintly recall some people saying dx12 would make sli easy to support and viable again, and then it was never mentioned again

oh hold on, @dry pike already mentioned that

has that been utilized in any game?

[dry pike]

Apparently yes: https://www.anandtech.com/show/10067/ashes-of-the-singularity-revisited-beta/4

and apparently games like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Sniper Elite 4 had like betas of it at least

[pale quartz]

DX12 does have a technology called multi tiled rendering, however it is an optional API which game developers utilise if they wish, rather than natively

it's actual usage is more or less all but dead for games building on DX12, there isn't the SLI crowd to justify integrating multi tiled rendering, the main advantage of it wasn't actually SLI either, rather it is GPU agnostic, so you can cross use different GPUs from different vendors

[terse glade]

I'm still happy with my rtx 2080 super

I even undervolt it and decreased it performance by 50%

Never goes above 70c and 120 watt consumption

Love it

On ultra and 1440p

60 fps

[midnight crypt]

why even buy a 2080 super if youre just gonna halve its performance

[mystic jolt]

Hi there guys, I have a little issue overall in games and idk what do i do about it. Heres the thing: I have a problem with my games being kinda milky, that's somewhat of a white haze. I have it in all of my games, but when I switch my display settings to Fullscreen it usually fixes the thing and colours are back to normal. Sometimes, changing resolution scaling and going back to normal also does the trick. But now i don't have any idea whatsoever. I changed my API from DX11 to DX12 in Dying Light 2. No matter what I do, white haze doesn't disappear. Any sugestions what can I do to overall fix this issue? Thanks.

[mystic jolt]

UPDATE: For anyone with the same issue, If you have Nvidia and use an HDMI cable, go into your control panel, go to change resolution, select your resolution you use and switch the third option to "use NVIDIA color settings" and make sure the dynamic range is set to full. Found this on reddit

[proud trellis]

Im looking at getting a new case for my pc but its a micro-ATX case, If i was to buy just a normal ATX case, would my motherboard be able to fit into the new ATX case because my motherboard is micro-ATX size ?

[eager sun]

yes

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/leaked-asus-x670-prime-pcb-diagram-for-amd-ryzen-7000-cpus-confirms-this-motherboard-has-it-two-chipsets

X670 has 2 chipsets that are spread out to distribute signals better, apparently 1 chipset isn't enough for the amount of PCIe lanes that Ryzen 7000 desktop has @humble iris

AM5 is almost an HEDT platform

Only thing it lacks to make it HEDT is quad-channel memory

[pale quartz]

not the reason why

it has a dual chiplet design for handling signaling integrity with I/O as X670E already has a dual chiplet design, it's just to cut down on manufacturing costs

[molten flame]

It's cheaper to have 2 medium sized chipsets than 1 large very power-hungry chipset

[pale quartz]

correct

it doesn't make sense from AMDs POV to make an entirely new chipset when they've already got the stringent PCIe 5.0 signaling requirements on E, it's much easier just to port it down

[molten flame]

Heard Ryzen 7000 with X670E could have way more PCIe lanes than previous gen

Which is why I'm comparing it to HEDT

[pale quartz]

the lanes themselves don't change, however it is a big step up compared to what we have now

X670E is forcing 5.0 on the NVMe and first PCIe slot, and the rest of the slots will be fully 4.0 compatible

[molten flame]

MLID thinks B650 will be mostly OEM

X670 should be cheaper than X570 on average but X670E should be more expensive because enthusiast tier

Vendors will decide whether thier X670 boards will have PCIe 5.0 x16 slot or not

[pale quartz]

B650 will be OEM, at the beginning, 3-6 months DIY manufacturers will be able to use the chipset

[molten flame]

Makes sense

[pale quartz]

X670 will be more expensive than X570 purely down to needing to support 5.0 at all, but it won't be that much more expensive

Z690, it will be much cheaper than

[molten flame]

[pale quartz]

it's like a 10% increase over x570 barely anything

[molten flame]

Yeah most people pay higher for VAT than that lol

[twilit quiver]

why wont it let me go online in bf5 or bf4 in geforce now

[terse glade]

Because it's enough for my needs and I can higher it up if needed but why when it runs the game well?

I want to maximize the lifespan as well

[pale quartz]

this has always been a myth lol

cutting power consumption does not "maximise" or "extend" the life of a graphics card, they are built to run at near maximum capacity

also, 120 watts of power consumption for 60 frames is absolutely terrible in terms of power efficiency, showing the ineptitude of Nvidia cards tldr

[terse glade]

Ultra and on 3440x1440 tho

BF5

[pale quartz]

you said 1440p lol

[terse glade]

Isn't it?

[pale quartz]

no

1440p is 2560

[terse glade]

Oh ye

Well ye 3440 then

[pale quartz]

yeah you didn't cut your performance by 50% as a 2080 super cannot push 120 frames at 3440

you basically cut power consumption by 50%, for a 30%~ performance decrease

[terse glade]

Also I undervolt on the official Nvidia performance panel when you click alt+z you can do Auto Tuning and adjusting maximum temperature and decrease power etc.

So I don't do any crazy shit lol

[pale quartz]

well yeah that's still horrendous efficiency

at 120 watts you should be coming nowhere near 70 degrees, at stock, nevermind undervolting

Nvidia cards were always garbage for power scalability so I'm not half surprised

[terse glade]

But everything maxed out with highest ray tracing setting

[pale quartz]

that doesn't matter

[terse glade]

😩

You have AMD Radeon then?

[pale quartz]

I have a 6800xt, I had a 2080ti

[terse glade]

So you're happier with it?

With the 6800x?

[pale quartz]

yes lol

I wouldn't have got it if I wasnt

[terse glade]

What is the main improvement you aimed for?

[pale quartz]

performance

the PC community isn't smart and see an Nvidia logo and justify spending 2x the cash for the performance they get, so I took advantage of it to oversell the 2080ti and get a 6800xt for a 50% performance improvement for 15% money

and I was sick of nvidias constant price gouging for pieces of tincan metal so I wasn't supporting them

[terse glade]

I have AMD Ryzen 7 3900 CPU and can't complain either

[pale quartz]

ryzen 9

[terse glade]

Isn't 7 better for gaming

[pale quartz]

no

the SKU number is just a category segment it has no influence on gaming performance

[terse glade]

I heard 9 is better for editing 4k videos and stuff

[pale quartz]

that isnt wrong, the first part is

though the 3900x is generally not great compared to the stuff today anyways

[terse glade]

Prebuild PC I bought 2020

So ye parts are probably "outdated"

[pale quartz]

it isn't the date rather Zen 2's design was never going to age well for performance

[terse glade]

But I don't see reason to upgrade it yet

[pale quartz]

if you plan on upgrading the card anytime soon that processor will need to get replaced aswell

[terse glade]

So you would say if I would like to buy a rtx 4060 next year for example I would urgently need a new CPU?

[pale quartz]

4060 maybe not

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

but you won't be buying that till near the end of next year

more 4070/80+/7700xt+ cards

[terse glade]

Thats understandable

Although i really need to say I'm fine with 60 fps on 3440 so I probably won't need any huge upgrade anytime soon. But idk, we'll see what the next unreal engine 5 will bring when the next games gets equipped with it

Like GTA 6

Which I'm pretty sure will get UE5

[pale quartz]

2080 super definitely isn't pushing 60 frames on GTA 6 that's for sure lol

lucky to get 40 frames nevermind 60

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

it's a mid tier card today and by next year it'll be relegated to the beginner segment for card performance

the "what you need to get by" class tier

[terse glade]

I know couple of guys still rocking their GTX 1060s tho

And they're happy with it

[quick locust]

Not necessarily, 1440p is just 1440 vertical and progressive

[pale quartz]

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

yeah they can keep running old cards till they won't be able to boot games at all

less than 2 years at this rate

[quick locust]

A lot do, since it sold so well.

[pale quartz]

Nvidia will drop the hammer on pascal driver support in the not so distant future and when it does the jig is up

[quick locust]

Already 6 years old

[pale quartz]

the cards, the architecture itself is 8 years old

[quick locust]

Yeah

[pale quartz]

by the time rtx 40 and RDNA3 roll around it'll be just edging on a decade

all those people clinging onto their 1080tis don't have much longer

[quick locust]

Meanwhile my 8700K

https://tenor.com/view/olddance-gif-23074315

[pale quartz]

going to get AVX'd

[quick locust]

Nah

Going to be firmware highjacked

[molten flame]

I think Nvidia will keep Pascal updated as long as it has lots of users still on it

GTX 1060 still at #1 position of Steam hardware survey

[proud trellis]

im debating whether to get these corsair RGB fans; https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Fans/RGB-%26-LED-Fans/iCUE-SP-RGB-ELITE-Series-Fans/p/CO-9050109-WW
Or just get LED fans instead because i will ned to get a hub for all the RGB and its just more money and more hastle to setup and cable manage.
Although i dont really know any decent LED fans so if anyone has any knowledge of LED fans that come in like a pack of 3 please ping me :))

[pale quartz]

i have the hd120's

very overpriced not worth it for corsair fans, i just happened to get them for an insane deal

[proud trellis]

yeah they are expensive

but ive found some fans now dw

[humble iris]

Nice, lots of neat things coming in. I do like quad channel memory though, I think 8 channel is making its way in pretty soon.

Actually I think AMD has 12 channel memory.

[sacred hull]

What ssd/m.2 is everyone using and why?

I have 2x Samsung 970 Evo plus in RAID 1

[humble iris]

970 Evo Plus 500GB - OS
SN750-EK 1TB - Games, Programs
980 1TB L2 Cache for 6 WD Blacks 1TB in RAID 0 - Mass Storage
850 Pro 256GB - Alternate OS
860 EVO - Windows Server (OS)
860 EVO - Game Server files.

[marsh gull]

smh still such a gud card

[molten flame]

1080Ti still has good performance-per-watt compared to current gen

[pale quartz]

I've got a firecuda 530, the phison controller can't be beat, really a great piece of technology

going to get a second one eventually and retire my second PCIe gen 3 nvme

[molten flame]

What are advantages of PCIe gen4 NVME over gen3?

I know I wouldn't benefit from the increased read/writes since they're already pretty outrageous on my Gen3 drive

Is there new features on gen4?

[ivory creek]

how big are the chances that nvidia will showcase any of their rtx 4000 cards or features in their presentation this tuesday?

[pale quartz]

the main advantages aren't in I/O speeds

it's in new NAND integrations which make the real difference, gen 3 nvme drives in terms of things random sequential writes are simply floored by them

there's also directstorage which as time goes on will become incessantly difficult to run on gen 3 drives as they only contain 2 data queues for data transmission

[pale quartz]

very

[ivory creek]

oh i thought they were close to none, but thats nice

[pale quartz]

there isn't much new that'll be shown off at computex, everything is pretty much already known

[ivory creek]

alright, thanks for the input

[molten flame]

AMD will present AM5 and Zen 4 in 12 hours from now

Presentation is held at 11PM Pacific Time on May 22

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-breathing-gif-15625426

[quiet harbor]

How do I fix the trial Glitch?

It's dumb ngl

I would be thankful for the help

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtBB2VnF8M

AMD Computex keynote about to start

[molten flame]

24 PCIe gen5 lanes

Spicy

5.5 GHz

HOLY SHIIIT

That's even higher than the leaked boost clocks

[prime jasper]

1 year more

[north crow]

here's hoping gpu prices become reasonable again soon, could definitely use an upgrade for my 1080 Ti

[molten flame]

AM4 socket is going to see support and new products for many years to come

[pale quartz]

next generation will be worse in terms of "actual prices", Nvidia and AMD have seen what people are willing to pay for their cards and will increase their ASPs accordingly

[dry pike]

Only made worse by the more expensive VRMs needed on all parts to handle all wattage being needed.

My current setup got my office up to 28c today and it is not even properly hot outside yet. I'm sure a few hundred watt extra heat from the next generation is going to help :/

[molten flame]

This is why I don't buy high-end products, you're going to get very hot hardware when you want high performance lol

[pale quartz]

and also in for a nasty shock of frying some circuit breakers/PSUs who don't have adequate transient loads for sustaining 700W~ of 4090 power spikes

[north crow]

indeed :(

[ivory creek]

nvidias showcase seem to be 5am cest. would be fun to watch the livestream, but no way im staying up or going up that early

[molten flame]

Nvidia Computex Keynote is in 10 hours

[ivory creek]

yeah thats 5am here

[molten flame]

Zen 4 16-core CPU should break 40,000 points in Cinebench R23

13900K with it's 8+16 core configuration will come close to 50,000 points imo

[molten flame]

13th gen Raptor-Lake CPUs could see big bottlenecks when used with DDR4 memory in comparison to high-end DDR5 kits, double-digit percentile type of difference in gaming and synthetic workloads

[quick locust]

wow

[proud trellis]

does anyone know what this cable is for and where it goes in the pc ?

[molten flame]

look around until you find a place where it fits 😛

not a USB header... or an Audio header... may not be important

[proud trellis]

well I did look all around and when I tried to turn my PC on it didn’t start at all lmaoo

[molten flame]

ah so it may be the cable for the front I/O panel on the case where the power button and stuff are

[molten coral]

Ye looks like it

[proud trellis]

it is for the front I/O panel but I’ve got no clue where it goes

literally looked all over like 10 times

[molten flame]

depends on your motherboard

[proud trellis]

ahhhh for fuck sake

[molten flame]

usually it's at the bottom or the right side of the motherboard

[proud trellis]

I bet my motherboard doesn’t support it

[molten coral]

Search for info about your board

It’s probably just there but you’re overlooking it

[quick locust]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-noctua-oc/

[molten flame]

should be quiet, takes up 4-slots because it has 25mm thick fans lol

[digital hill]

I need help

Should I get a 2070 super for 380 or get a rtx 3060 12gb for 360?

the rtx 2070 super was 400 but after telling him I'm closing the sale

he lowered the cost down

[molten flame]

RX 6600 is under $300 in lots of retailers
RTX 3050 is $250 on EVGA website

[digital hill]

Can the 6600 handle 1800p?

[molten flame]

RX 6600 is comparable to RTX 3060 in rasterization but I imagine 3060 will get the edge in higher resolutions

[digital hill]

That's true

I might just stick with the 2070 as I was able to renegotiate

to now 375

the 3060 would be nice but at the same time, it isn't as strong as the 2070 super in some cases

[molten flame]

2070 Super is about 10% faster than the 3060

[digital hill]

oh

thought it was lower like 3-5%

so the 2070 super is technically better then a 3060

[molten flame]

in the future the 12GB of the 3060 may start to give it an edge over 8GB GPUs

[digital hill]

That could be true

[molten flame]

2070 Super also draws a good bit more power

which means more heat

[digital hill]

I have a 750w psu so I'm fine

and my pc is air cooled

with a 4000d airflow

so temps isn't concerning

[molten flame]

would be different story if you lived in a small place with no air conditioning also during summer time

[digital hill]

That's true, I have ac so its fine

[eager sun]

thats front panel usb, doesnt have anything to do with with the front panel buttons

[molten flame]

The 31% uplift in Blender over the i9-12900K is an understatement. The 16-core Ryzen 7000 CPU completed the rendering in 204 seconds, whereas the 12900K completed it in 297 seconds, if you look at the footnotes. That is a 31% reduction in time required to render, but that is actually equivalent to a 45.6% increase in processing speed. To reduce overall rendering time by 31% you need 46% faster speed.

[pale quartz]

well yeah the presentation was intentionally sandbagged on purpose lol AMD aren't revealing everything just yet

[molten flame]

I know lmao, too early to reveal final performance

very likely gonna hold onto Zen 4 product announcement until after Intel Raptor-Lake is announced

[molten flame]

15 minutes until Nvidia Computex

[molten flame]

Nvidia announced a 24 inch 1080p 500Hz monitor

also talked about AI and robotics

and RTX 3000 MAX-Q laptops

no mention of RTX 4000

[pale quartz]

usual bs from Nvidia keynotes

[halcyon zodiac]

👀

[humble iris]

There may be another piece for that. I'm not sure what case you have, but there may be a header block that connects to the motherboard, and then that plugs into it. or this may be with your case or board. https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-Internal-Motherboard-Converter-Adapter/dp/B07WG8ZJ41

Or something similar to that.

I'm fairly sure it's a USB-C header

or thunderbolt

Do you have a USB-c port on the front panel?
https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-Motherboard-Extension-Key-Connector/dp/B085J361B9

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71w-5MO4+dL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[terse glade]

[digital hill]

Decided to go with the 2070 super and it works

but it has a downside. no rgb

[storm osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[dry pike]

You can always add RGB.

[molten flame]

rumors claiming that Navi 31 has 1 GCD, not 2

[storm osprey]

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/model-o-pro?utm_campaign=Model O PRO GB is Live (2022-05-24)&utm_medium=email&utm_source=30 Day Opens

[molten flame]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-confirms-ps3-games-still-wont-support-dlc-on-ps-plus-premium/

oof

[terse glade]

Laughs in rtx 2080 super

https://c.tenor.com/a0P8oUCh8WsAAAAM/mr-bean-too-easy.gif

[humble iris]

I was at the $5 and under store yesterday, they had a bin full of Battlefield games. https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/BF1dollar.gif

[digital hill]

make sense

I bought titanfall 2 on ps4 there

[toxic wigeon]

So for some reason the taskbar and everything else on my computer is refusing to load.

When I open discord it crashes.

...its working now.

Has anyone experienced this? Taskbar not loading, Programs crashing.
What is it and what can I do to prevent it? Is it a Windows issue?

[digital hill]

Hmmm that seems like a failing drive

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah it's working now. God that better not be the case.

It's the Samsung 980 drive. Literally 2 months old at this point.

[pale quartz]

it's not a failing drive, applications can conflict with other software which uses GPU acceleration at the same time as discord, switch it off and you won't have it occur again

[toxic wigeon]

That sounds like that makes sense.

Yeah I will.

[pale quartz]

appearance settings iirc is where GPU acceleration can be turned off

[terse glade]

Guys wtf I updated Nvidia driver and have now black screen

GeForce update

Fuck????

It always happens that the screen turns black for 2 secs after update

But it stays black

needed to plug off my pc

fine now

damn

what the hell was that

[dry pike]

#JustDriverThings

[prime jasper]

is overclocking worth it on a 750ti

and if so

what are the best speeds

my 750ti crashes sometimes in some games

my exact model is

MSI 750Ti OC v1

[eager sun]

you need to test that for your specific gpu

raise core clock until you see artifacts/crashes in whatever benchmark -> turn the oc down a bit then do the same for memory and then start to play games, if you get crashes reduce core/mem oc a bit more until you dont crash anymore

[prime jasper]

Already did

But

let's say I run superposition benchmark

I get high speeds

but when I run a game like nfs heat

it crashes

and I have to lower the speeds

Its different for every game

[eager sun]

not crashing in a benchmark but in a game is normal

you have to adjust the clocks everytime you crash doesnt matter what game at some point your settings will be stable everywhere

[prime jasper]

check dms i sent a pic

[prime jasper]

does battlefield v crank cpu temps up like no other game for anyone else?
i have an i5-9400f and i get 78c max in CSGO, 84C max in Apex Legends, but when I play BFV my temps can reach 90c~ before stabilizing, hella high.

[midnight crypt]

its utilising more of your cpu

also you should really check why its getting that high

cause that aint normal

[molten flame]

BFV is really demanding and a 6 core/6 thread CPU is gonna be overburdened

[terse glade]

I indirectly underclock my CPU by playing on energy saving mode

So temps never go higher than 55c on mine with standard fan

Might try that maybe?

[quick locust]

Why?

You're just gimping it for no reason

[terse glade]

I need to pay my electricity bills by myself

So every watt needs to be reduced as much as possible

And I don't see any performance issues

[prime jasper]

@midnight crypt i've even replaced my CPU cooler, I have a brand new case, I added another case fan, I cleaned off the old paste; I genuinely think it's just Battlefield V

[molten flame]

Yes i5-9400F struggles with the game a bit because it's a 6-core that lacks hyperthreading

BFV can make use of more than 8 cores

[prime jasper]

ohhhh i see, so it's really juicing my cpu for performance then

because my frame-rate is great, my avg fps is 166 according to AMD Catalyst with my RX 6600

so it really must be juicing the hell outta my CPU.

[molten flame]

RAM configuration is important too

[prime jasper]

i've got 16gb of ddr4 2667mhz in the proper dual channel slots

[molten flame]

That's fine

[prime jasper]

well it's reassuring to know my cpu isn't dying then lol

[midnight crypt]

still 90c is not normal

[prime jasper]

shiiiit i've done everything I can do I feel like

[midnight crypt]

id check if the cooler is mounted properly

[prime jasper]

bare in mind bfv is the only thing that even gets me to 90c^

for some reason not even aida64 extreme cpu stress test got me up there

hover around 88c on that, bfv is just a fuckin absolute chugger

[molten flame]

Sometimes specific games can be the most taxing on hardware than any software program

[prime jasper]

i'm glad it's utilized well though because everything feels super smooth

[molten flame]

Especially when a game has an uncapped menu

[prime jasper]

even though my cpu usage is at near 100% constantly it's a very smooth experience

so at least that's going for it

[molten flame]

Either cooler is not mounted right, the thermal paste doesn't cover the entire heatspreader, or paste has air bubbles in it

i5-9400F shouldn't be hitting 90C with after-market cooling

[prime jasper]

cooler is 100% mounted right, no plastic over the heat-spreader, i did use the stock thermal paste that came on it though

it is also the cooler master i-30 low-profile cooler with a 95mm fan @molten flame sound abt right?

so same size fans as the intel stock cooler

[molten flame]

That cooler master I30 is very similar to a AMD stock cooler

I don't expect that to be that much better than Intel cooler

[prime jasper]

i hope me not adding my own thermal paste isn't what's fucking this up

i have my own thermal paste here but on the heatsink they have a pre-applied small circle

i'm guessing that circle doesn't cover the entire heatspreader

[quick locust]

Using too much thermal paste doesn't really worsen cooling

It just makes a mess when spread out

[prime jasper]

i don't know if it's even worth to re-paste though for the better temps if i'm not throttling

[quick locust]

Probably not, but easiest step to do

Doubt yours is bad though, usually takes quite a while

[pale quartz]

it won't be, play any game which uses more than 6 cores and you'll get the same thing

time to upgrade your processor

[molten flame]

he says his performance is fine he's uncomfortable with 90C temps though

he got that cheap cooler master heatsink that's really no better than the Intel stock cooler

[midnight crypt]

well that explains his high temps then

[terse glade]

Why he don't cap the fps to 60 tho... It would solve all his issues

Because idk if he knows it but bf5 servers are capped to 60fps

[molten flame]

60Hz server tickrate, not display refresh rate

[terse glade]

Or Hz

[midnight crypt]

fps and server Hz is not the same thing

[molten flame]

^

[terse glade]

Uh

Damn lol

Aight ok another "solution" would be then to lower resolution myb

[molten flame]

nah that will put more stress on CPU

the lower the resolution and graphics settings, the GPU works less and the CPU works more

[terse glade]

[prime jasper]

hey guys so i ended up re-pasting with the ultra-performance thermal paste @molten flame @midnight crypt

i will update with what happens as i test through out the day

[prime jasper]

temps 84-87c average while playing now instead of 89/90c so I guess that's better lmao @midnight crypt @molten flame

[quick locust]

Margin of error mostly

Doesn't matter much if you don't thermal throttle anyway unless you run 24/7 load for years

Which you don't

[prime jasper]

holy crap my temps playing csgo are considerably better

instead of the 78c i was getting i'm now peaking at 73c during csgo

so the thermal paste really did help, that's insane to me

[quick locust]

https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/25/duckduckgo-privacy-microsoft-permission-tracking/

[wet notch]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[brave sundial]

TL:DR, they were forced to

And it's only for the browser, search engine is fine

They can't give 100% privacy as their browser is based some of Microsoft's APIs

[molten flame]

Microcenter had a RX 6700XT for $378

[humble iris]

I wish we had a Microcenter

Bestbuy sucks

[quick locust]

Wish we had them too

Elgiganten and Power suck

[prime jasper]

rx 6700 xt for $378 what a fucking deal

i just paid $350 for my rx 6600 and i am hugely impressed with it

[molten flame]

Since the R9 5950X is ~5% faster than i9-12900K in Blender, we can assume the Ryzen 7000 16-core is 40% faster than 5950X in multithreading

That means either 40% gain in per-core performance or AMD did some very good multithreaded optimizations

Latter is most likely ofc

[molten flame]

16-core Ryzen 7000 should match 24-core 13900K in multi-threading performance
would be humiliating for Intel, having 50% more cores and not beating competition

[dry pike]

Atm. I don't need more cores. The 12 I got are never fully utilized unless I render stuff. The optimal imo. is still around 8 ultrafast cores and then a bunch of meh ones for video on secondary monitor, Discord etc.

[proud trellis]

i agree

i'd never really buy an R9/I9

[humble iris]

Multithreading is super important for me, I'm using all 20-threads when working on music tracks. the first thread gets hit really hard, So I am ready for a super powered multicore CPU very soon. Especially with all these new VST3s and AAX plugins and standalone amp sims and instruments. I found myself lacking in hardware performance the last couple of months. Still holding out okay though. But I'm thinking about getting EZ Drummer 3 which might put me over the edge on my current CPU..

[idle dust]

can I solder wires onto NIMH batteries?

or do I need a special tool to attach solder tails onto them?

AKA a spot welder.

[humble iris]

it's dangerous I know that

if you want to see some battery soldering by Linus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkum7G-0vWg

[humble iris]

GPUs for sale all over factory sealed for under MSRP, lol.. same ones that were going 3x msrp. ah goody. some are still trying to gouge a little but they are getting what they deserve.

[ionic galleon]

Is this where I report bug 2042?

[midnight crypt]

clearly

[humble iris]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/948574259209437264

[prime jasper]

does low latency mode help on normal monitors?

even on vga

and does it cause stuttering on games like valorant

[humble iris]

if you are referring to the low latency mode in Nvidia Control Panel it does not pertain to the monitor, but rather the CPU, and GPU latency before even sending it to the monitor.

[prime jasper]

alr

[humble iris]

if you set it to ultra it also reduces latency when vsync and gsync are enabled

as for causing studdering I have not noticed any, I dont play valorant though

[prime jasper]

omfg

why is it when i play nfs heat

sometimes it stutters alot

sometimes it doesnt

💀

[humble iris]

could be a number of reasons

[prime jasper]

i get that

i have a 2nd gen i5

and a 750ti

but man why does it stutter alot sometimes

like

one day it can perform fine

[humble iris]

not enough vram or gen 2 PCIe slot

[prime jasper]

2nd day its shit

[humble iris]

what resolution?

[prime jasper]

1292x808

aka image scaling 70% resolution

do u want graphics settings too

[humble iris]

Online or offline game?

[prime jasper]

offline

[humble iris]

I'm really not sure

[prime jasper]

could it be like

virtual memory or smt

overclocking

etc

[humble iris]

Well I don't think you are at the minimum requirements for that game:

Processor (Intel): Core i5-3570 or Equivalent
Memory: 8 GB
Graphics card (AMD): Radeon 7970/Radeon R9 280x or Equivalent
Graphics card (NVIDIA): GeForce GTX 760 or Equivalent```

[prime jasper]

but it works

i get like

30fps on medium-barely high settings

[midnight crypt]

it works yes but clearly not flawless

since you're below minimum

[prime jasper]

yes but

why does it work better today than yesterday

or smt

[midnight crypt]

you're probably not doing the same thing as yesterday

like driving in the same area and whatnot

[prime jasper]

im driving in the same area

[humble iris]

also background programs and things will make a difference.

[midnight crypt]

ye