technology

[humble iris]

I'm having guilt issues right now, I killed about 7 with a pellet gun tonight

[sinful mantle]

ive done that before yeah

[humble iris]

I just don't have a choice on the matter

[sinful mantle]

ive beat a few raccs in the past that were stealing cat food and killing kittens

like with a stick

[humble iris]

ohh yeah those are the worst, I've dealt with possums, skunks, coyotes, rats, no racoons yet

[sinful mantle]

lucky you the raccs are the smartest and to top it off cutest

[humble iris]

yep,

oh and we have foxes too

[sinful mantle]

was feeding them at first but that was a mistake

all thats actually nice in the big picture

im glad to see the hawks and owls back as well

DDT fucked up the wildlife in this country for decades

i was in my yard last year when a hawk swooped down over my head and snatched up a sparrow...i even felt the wind

[humble iris]

I watched a hawk drag a large squirrel across the field

his head was hitting everything

[sinful mantle]

about 60 miles south of me

[humble iris]

A wild bore?

[sinful mantle]

yeah it was from domestic hogs that in 3 generation went feral

there are several in the area

[humble iris]

I don't think a 5.56 would do the job

unless green tipped maybe

[sinful mantle]

hahaha...i have a .44 magnum carbine

[humble iris]

nice.

[sinful mantle]

my old lady talked me into getting it when we lived in the mountains in case of bears...but i never even fired it yet

[molten flame]

I saw a pig that was so fat it couldn't walk because it's belly was bigger than the length of legs and fat tissue was coming out of its eyes like it was crying out fat

[sinful mantle]

hahahaha

[humble iris]

My biggest rifle is a 30.06, my dad carries a .44 mag like Dirty Harry, he has some kind of pistol carbine 30 something caliber

[molten flame]

😦

[sinful mantle]

30.30 basically just a smaller bore than my .44

[molten flame]

.30-30 brush gun kkona

[humble iris]

yeah he has a 30.30 with the loop

[sinful mantle]

right my .44 is a lever action saddle gun replica

[molten flame]

I have a Marlin lever-action .30-30

[sinful mantle]

thats it!

marlin

[molten flame]

Why do we all have lever action guns

[humble iris]

the .44 mag is the same cartridge as pistol revolver?

[sinful mantle]

because we watched cowboy movies when we were kids

[sinful mantle]

yes same

[humble iris]

My son has the .22 same as the 30.30

lever action

[sinful mantle]

it just feels nice

[humble iris]

very accurate

[sinful mantle]

kinda like a 12 gauge feels when you cock it

satisfying

[humble iris]

I have 2 12GA I recently purchased, a Magazine, and a tube, both pump 18" Rem 870 DM, and Mossberg Maverick

[sinful mantle]

i'm thinking of getting a 18 or 20 gauge...smaller easier action

can fire one handed

[humble iris]

I even like the .410, especially the 45 long colt/.410

or the judge

[sinful mantle]

hey btw...what's your cup of meat; BF4 BFV?

i jam both as well as BF3 if you want to join me in game sometime

[humble iris]

I play all of them, but mostly 2042, 2142, BC2

I've been trying for 3 days to play Hazrd Zone, I finally got in, dropped us in front of a team and we got wiped/raped instanly

[sinful mantle]

i missed 2142 was still playing bf42 mod desert combat...have bf2042 but dont like it and also missed BC2 was away from PCs

basically the only games on this windows install are BF3/BF4/and BFV

i have squad and a few others...but not downloaded

[humble iris]

I have everything installed

lol

[sinful mantle]

haha...well if you want to add me same name and spot me jamin...join me

i get a new machine ill try bf2042 again...was getting 35 frames

[humble iris]

kool

[prime jasper]

Unlike grenade launchers, rocket launchers, and mortars, could the High-Impulse weapon System fire non-explosive projectiles?

[sinful mantle]

I can't see why it will be utilized for anything other than launching a lethal round...it will no doubt replace other shoulder fired cannons in that it has almost zero recoil with no back blast

[molten flame]

RGT claims that Ryzen 7000 desktop CPU engineering samples are boosting to 5.2 GHz while having 3D cache

[quick locust]

Nice

[humble iris]

I've gone down a rabbit hole of Amp Sims. I have ignored this type of technology for years. But after realizing Effects Processors, and Amp modelers have simply become straight up computers. I have been messing around VST3 amp simulators. Now I'm thinking about mic-ing up some amps and cabs and capturing "Impulse Responses" I'm still learning all the terminology and everything. But this tech has come a really long way. Now I'm wondering how I can capture IRs from a 15+ year old amp modeler of if that's even possible. I should have stayed with this as how its become very useful today. This was very trash tech until the past few years. I've remained closed off from it, and old school.

I never would have known you can record a flat guitar clean, and add amp sims to it. It sounds amazing.

[molten flame]

https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1512151405615849477

5800X3D is 14% faster than 12900KS on average in Shadow of the Tomb Raider

[marsh gull]

amd comes back as the value king ig

[lunar gulch]

They don't have much value in their graphics drivers.

[marsh gull]

lol

[molten flame]

https://twitter.com/perschistence/status/1511507668627771402

RTX 3080Ti and below run pretty badly in Unreal Engine 5 demo because 12GB is simply not enough even at 50% render scale, RTX 3090 with its 24GB has no issues

[naive wraith]

good thing its a meaningless demo then

[molten flame]

Yeah but it could be a sign that in the near future, the VRAM of many RTX 3000 series GPUs (3070, 3080) won't be enough for their performance tier

Hell the 2080Ti already proves that 8GB isn't enough for the 3070

[humble iris]

Shouldn't you use a quadro for real professional game dev.

like 32GB

[molten flame]

Maybe but you don't want something too overkill like top tier Quadros

[humble iris]

I think there are even 48GB cards

but then again, who can afford a RTX8000

ohh I think it means RTX $8000.00

GV100 has 32GB, but the 8000 has the 48GB

[molten flame]

Kinda weird how their professional cards are named like that, the RTX 4000 is gonna confuse people when the RTX 4000 series comes out

[humble iris]

are they really gonna be 4000

[molten flame]

Yes

[humble iris]

oh you mean Geforce RTX 4000

not Quadro

[molten flame]

Yes there's a Quadro RTX 4000 which is based on Ampere, same arch as GeForce RTX 3000 series

[humble iris]

Hopefully anyone buying a card like that understands one is gaming, and one for game developing

[molten flame]

If shortage gets real bad again and prices are over $5K for high-end GeForce cards then Quadros wouldn't be too ridiculous to buy

[humble iris]

they are not as good for actual gaming though. but if you are mainly a developer and need that kind of rendering power, then the quadro is better.

IDK maybe things have changed

IIRC the titans were pretty good at bridging the gap, but at maximum cost.

Titanium vs Titan

I'm over with 8GB vRam thinking I'm still hot $hi^

anything I do only uses about 5 or less anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJBWMElWNRk

He's running DLSS Performance on a 3060 and able to get through it with like 40-55 FPS

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/noctua-delays-highly-anticipated-white-fans-and-next-gen-nh-d15-cooler

[supple bane]

how can they even delay that lol

take fan.

can of spray paint

done.

[raw turtle]

lmao

overrated fans

just buy any other fan

[dry pike]

A lot goes into making Noctua quality fans. Just spraying them wont work.

[prisma anvil]

First time overclocking a 12900K

The experience are somewhat OK. 5.2ghz P core, 4.1ghz e core and 4.2ghz ring

Ram was Samsung die so only got to 6000 cl34.

But damn. Fast af cpu.

Well over 20k in timespy

Also the amd 5800X 3D leak benchmark against 12900ks is sooo funny

3200 cl14 bdie vs 4800 cl40

4800 cl40

They should disable the p cores on 12900ks and compare it to 5800X 3D and say 5800X 3D is faster.

[naive wraith]

It's a weird comparison on AMD's part not exactly sure why it's the one they're stacking it against

I get that it's supposed to be a more premium product but it's still a Ryzen 7 at the end of the day

[prisma anvil]

Every company does this

[naive wraith]

Never said otherwise

[prisma anvil]

This is why I always trust independent reviewers

[naive wraith]

"independent" reviewers

[prisma anvil]

The 6700XT vs 3070 slides were even more wild

Yeah like hardware unbox, gamers nexus and testing it myself.

I have been messing with ryzen recently and ram overlclocking isn't that hard now. Porb bios matured?

Built a 5900X pc for my friend the other day

Got the cpu and mobo for 400ish that's why I didn't go with 12700k

[supple bane]

i was joking about the spraying part. a more serious take would be that they already have the painting method down (obviously) all they have to do is change the dye.

[dry pike]

They are not painted, the color is mixed into the plastic before it hardens. You don't just change the dye to white and call it a day. White is notoriously hard to get consistent and colormatched with other white parts. Small changes in the shade of white are easy to spot.

If you ever try and make a white PC build you will notice all the whites being different shades of white.

[humble iris]

Paul running SLI 3090Ti . Literally tripped his power strip from over current. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyGpbiORR3M This is why I say you need dedicated circuit for these new PCs. although he is running 2 cards, still I would run dedicated 20amp on on a single 3090ti setup. USA power.

[supple bane]

that is purely because different manufactures are using different shades. not because white is hard to keep consistent per part.

[dry pike]

disagree

[supple bane]

so youre telling me if you buy a white gpu, one side of it is a different shade to the other ?

[dry pike]

Newer cards are stupid. It's not real progress if new cards are just getting faster from drawing more power and producing more heat. :/

[humble iris]

White probably turns yellow after a while.

[humble iris]

I totally agree, I would never a buy a card like that. I'll wait for better more economical GPUs

[dry pike]

2 cards could be different. Also, the blades could easily become different from the hub or frame.
And yes, there is the yellowing issue 6ixTek mentioned.

[supple bane]

i agree if you build a white build, your white case will be a different shade to your white cooler, but thats just because those parts are from two manufactures that arent bothered if their colours are the same. Sure it can be hard to match it on different materials for a manufacturer, i know cases have a hard time matching the white plastic front panel to the white metal chassis.

[humble iris]

I bet most people can't even see that many shades of difference.

[supple bane]

ive seen white builds in person that are pretty noticeable

[dry pike]

The problem is that the same product from the same manufacturer easily have different shades, white products are just troublesome.

People would not like buying 3 Noctua fans and having them be 3 different shades of white.

[humble iris]

That would require way to much time and money to acheive perfect color consistency.

[dry pike]

The Noctua way 😄

[humble iris]

if you want perfect color match, you may need to paint it all with the same batch of paint

[molten coral]

Yeah, if it gets to the point that GPU's draw 600w of power I'm just gonna tap out

[humble iris]

And require new power supplies. with the new connectors

[supple bane]

more the better for me :)

i have a weird thing about seeing big numbers followed by a w

probably because i dont pay the electric bill

[fallow garden]

how

[humble iris]

Yeah when you an electric bill for 5 people, who all have PCs

[supple bane]

because im homeless

[molten coral]

My electricity bill is 350 Euro a month at the moment I cry every time.

[supple bane]

because i still live with my parents, duh.

[humble iris]

My elec bill was over $700us at times.

[fallow garden]

wtf

[humble iris]

In the summer time with A/C and everyone gaming

[molten coral]

I don't have A/C

[dry pike]

My 3080ti is already a spaceheater that gets my office to go into 36 degrees Celsius even with there being 0 degrees outside.

[humble iris]

I'm out working in 100° F heat all day, to pay the elec bill cooling the house I'm not in.

[proud trellis]

the fuckkk

[fallow garden]

Yall crazy

[molten coral]

I thought my 2080ti already made my room hot at 25C can't imagine 36C

[supple bane]

Bruh that's like heat stroke territory

[molten coral]

Crazy? Sadly it's pretty much the standard price a month for a lot of folks in the Netherlands since the price for 1 kw went up 100-150%.

[proud trellis]

my room now never gets that hot as i have a skylight window now

[fallow garden]

Damn in my family electricity bill is around 65€ month

[dry pike]

350W from the GPU alone is the same as a room sized spaceheater.

[molten flame]

Bet you didn't know that DDR5-4800 is 2% faster than DDR4-3200 with the 12900K in Shadow of the Tomb Raider

[humble iris]

Thank the miners for causing elec. rate increase, and people wasting energy, among other issues.

[humble iris]

2%, wow whats the power draw, lol!

[humble iris]

those space heaters are like 1000-1500 watts

[dry pike]

Those are the bigger ones sure

[humble iris]

The cords melt all the time

or end up brittle

[humble iris]

you meant those little personal heaters?

[naive wraith]

can't wait for the pcie cables to melt on a dudes 4080 when he only uses a single pcie cable from the psu

[humble iris]

speaking of which, I'm still using a single cable on my 2080, I need to run a second one for good measure.

[naive wraith]

yes....

[molten bramble]

WTF? Why? How?

[fallow garden]

Netherlands…

[humble iris]

I do use a powerlink on my GPU

[molten coral]

Basically electricity prices doubled/tripled in the last year and I used to have a cheap contract but since that contract ended I had to get a new one with the new prices

[molten bramble]

Jesus, that sucks!

[molten coral]

It's going to be lower in a few months as the government is stepping and going to give everyone x amount of money to help everyone out.

[humble iris]

Damn, what country you live in?

[molten coral]

Netherlands

[prisma anvil]

Bet you didn't know 5950x is already faster than 12900k in shadow of tomb raider.

Let's cherry pick benchmarks!

[humble iris]

I don't play that game.

[prisma anvil]

Exactly.

[molten flame]

Wasn't even the 10900K outperforming Zen 3 in that game tho

https://overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2020/11/04150520386l.jpg

Lmao

[prisma anvil]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dsogaming.com/news/first-gaming-benchmarks-revealed-for-the-intel-alder-lake-core-i9-12900k/amp/

Lmao

Shadow of tomb raider won!

Can't wait for other benchmarks

[humble iris]

I literally asked a fiber internet rep what their UP and DOWN speeds were, and the answer was
"Fiber Internet has symmetrical upload & download speeds. It's the Best!"

[molten bramble]

Tier one personnel aren’t going to have that information since it varies by infrastructure and runs.

Best they could do is offer a range.

[humble iris]

Well they need something if they are going to advertise it to me, and not know what they are charging for.

they were offering it my city, so they should have some kind of idea I would think

[humble iris]

I have that exact one, and also a 970 Evo Plus. It does the job, but the 970 Evo Plus is much better. Sustains longer read writes, and will probably last longer, but were talking small points. I've run benchmarks and the 970 evo plus is a little faster. but both are very fast. so really if the 980 is much cheaper then it's okay, but if the 970 evo plus is close to the same price I'd go with that, or a SN750. All are just fine though.

Also I think the 980 does not have a ram cache so it will use system memory

I'm using mine for a game drive, so it's just fine for that, and it will be 30 times better then a HDD for just about anything

Also speeds vary by system specs.

Also it's a M.2 NVMe, so be careful some M.2 are SATA

No problem.

[digital hill]

Hmmm 400 dollars for a 4tb nvme ssd

[pale quartz]

just note this comes in 2 different forms of classification, the one being advertised is a pcie 3.0 nvme drive, it is also available in a pcie 4.0 format, if your pc supports pcie 4.0 it's 99% advised to get the 4.0 model

[humble iris]

That's right. 980 "Pro" being 4.0, 980 being 3.0

[humble iris]

Which one? that's a good price.

[humble iris]

5 year warranty! can't go wrong, has Dram cache, and SLC cache.

[prime jasper]

399$💀

[toxic wigeon]

I've got one and it's AMAZING.

To be fair I don't have anything recent to compare it to but fuck me it's FAST.

[dry pike]

my 980 has been running great, but Samsung might not be the best perf/money brand. Depends on region, sales etc.

[quick locust]

They're good but expensive

[quick locust]

1L pc with 11700T and A2000

[molten flame]

Could have done better than 11700F lol

[quick locust]

T not F

I don't know if there's a T sku in alder lake yet?

[pale quartz]

it doesn't support PCIe 4.0, PCIe 3.0 is only supported

it's worth a consideration to get a 4.0 drive for when you upgrade your motherboard

np, best of luck

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-comments-on-alder-lakes-warping-and-bending-issues-mods-void-warranty

12th gen CPUs are warping

[quick locust]

Weird

[molten flame]

It has to do with how they are installed into motherboard socket, and the elongated shape of Intel CPUs now

Usually the warping is small and only affects temperatures by about +5C on average

[dry pike]

Squares are superior to rectangles when it comes to warping so makes sense I guess.
I do worry about how it will affect the longevity of the motherboards as the motherboard warping due to the CPU socket loading is an issue as well. Hopefully we don't see a bunch of 11/12gen Intel CPUs and motherboards breaking early.

[pale quartz]

generally, the warping would have to be very severe for there to be some dead processor or motherboard (aka we'd have seen it by now), the PCB's on boards are designed to handle a certain degree of, arguably extreme levels of bending as they dont come out of the factory 100% straight, the silicon itself for the CPU would need to be physically separated for the processor to die

[molten flame]

Or crack lol

The increased temperatures is a problem, 12th gen needs all the thermal headroom it can get

[dry pike]

Lets say it increases the risk of a dead motherboard/CPU by 0,5% after a year. That's still 5000 more people with prematurely dead hardware per 1 million sold.

[pale quartz]

that's not how the maths works

a 0.5% "risk of increase" is not, a dead motherboard, or processor, what you are talking about is risk tolerance, not total failure rates, a 0.5% increase in something dying of x million doesn't mean 0.5% more will die (because they don't), the total RMA rate for defects on processors per, entire stock volume sold rarely exceeds 2 thousand, nevermind per million, at worst case this means that a few hundred more people of the entire alder lake sale volume are "at risk" of it dying, aka next to nobody will actually have a dead processor, of that few hundred who are at risk

[molten flame]

Ryzen 7000/Epyc 7004 Raphael will go into mass production later this month, announcement could be in June or July

Epyc 7004 could be announced this month or next

[humble iris]

So, when does Nvidia start charging monthly subscription fees for GPUs. Oh I forgot people are already paying interest on Credit Cards used to purchase GPUs, lol... Ohh yeah and Geforce Now.

[midnight crypt]

GeForce now is a streaming service though

wouldn't really count that as a gpu subscription

[humble iris]

It's more like a GPU Streaming service, you actually use a gaming PC and your already owned games like steam are streamed to you. Unless something has changed since I BETA Tested it.

You basically rent a gaming rig

So if you have this

NVIDIA GeForce 600 series or newer```
You can game on a 3080

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/system-reqs/

When I tested it a few years ago it was really like renting a server sort of.

Wow you can even game on a LG TV with Geforce Now

Or Android TV, I'll have to set mine up

[dry pike]

My premise "was increases the risk of a dead motherboard/CPU by 0,5% after a year".
You cannot just say that is not how the math works by then just introducing a different premise, that is not how anything works 😄

[pale quartz]

yeah, and you then go ahead to say that, this results in a 100% rise in those who have a dead motherboard/processor, this is flawed mathematics and does not resemble how risk tolerance in regards to RMAs work, or are calculated, even

[pale quartz]

probably within the, not to distant future actually ironically enough, well a form of upgrade fee at a minimum for unlocking features on a card instead of a monthly subscription

[quick locust]

Yikes

I'll try AV1 encoding when I get my gpu

[pale quartz]

intel are already trialling tiers of purchases that exist within the silicon itself which will come around in the not so dystopian future for processors

[pale quartz]

Linux patches by intel for defined silicon features were accepted so tldr is it'll happen eventually

[dry pike]

Not sure what you are on about. Never mentioned 100% of anything.
My math checks out fine, they are just built upon a premise of fictitious numbers as I don't have the real ones.
Can't really comment on your own assessment as I don't really understand what you were saying, sorry, so just going to end it here.

[pale quartz]

fair enough

[quick locust]

Yes, though currently enterprise only

DT has less features already so not sure what they would disable

Maybe media decode/encoders

Unless you are a 6500xt user

[prime jasper]

Rtx 3050 users when 4k :😭

[molten flame]

RTX 3050 still nearly twice as expensive as a 6500XT lol

[pale quartz]

its more of long term thinking by Intel's measurements

instead of getting users to pay for an entirely new chip for upgrades you simply charge them a fee, saves on production for their end and (probably) is cheaper for the consumer aswell

[vast valley]

Waiting for my gpu to get to my house.

It's literally 30 minutes away if I were to drive there and pick it up

[quick locust]

They already do that with binning on DT though

[pale quartz]

consumers, not servers

[humble iris]

What got me started on the Subscription fee thing, was these Amp Sims. You can buy the whole thing out right, purchase individual pieces/models. or pay a monthly fee.
My issue with monthly fee is: If you don't pay the fee your current projects are useless unless you mix down the project. So if you intend to use live, or edit your existing records you have to pay the fee. If you buy it out right, you never have to worry about it again ever. I strongly prefer perpetual lifetime licenses with upgrade options. But the Subscription is very useful for trial testing, or just to do a project and never need it again.

I went through this recently with my backup software Acronis True Image. I ended up using Macrium Reflect Free, it has everything I need at no cost, with upgrade options.

So now I'm between, $400 amp sims (Software) TH-U, or $2,500.00 (Hardware) Amp Modeler Axe-FX III mkII which also has a built in PC audio interface..

[prime jasper]

Send pic

[prisma anvil]

Overclocking a 12900K on DDR4 Bdie tomorrow with MSI edge mobo

hopefully I can get 4000+ gear 1 stable

the last 12900k was reaching 5.2 all core, the performance in warzone was insane. beating both max tuned zen3 and 10th gen

Also ampere stability is a GAINT MEME

f u nvidia 😡

Also 12900KS is a giant meme LOL its no better than good bin 12900k 🤣

[molten flame]

Good bin 12900K were being held back for a few months on purpose to make the 12900KS

Also the reason why so many recent made 12900K barely meet boost spec

[dry pike]

Never expect to get a good bin

[molten flame]

I had a horrible bin Ryzen 5 1600, higher than usual temps and the memory controller was garbage

Replaced it with a $85 1600AF and no issues

[prisma anvil]

wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD6Yx3TbUgI

there is a better chance to get a better bin 12900k in 2022 than 2021

the 12900k I OC ed today is that SP83 prob LMFAO barely stable 5.1ghz in r23

😭

[molten flame]

5.1 GHz considered garbage for all-core?

Oops replied to wrong message

Also buildzoid told me a month ago that good binned 12900K were being held back to make the 12900KS which makes sense

[prisma anvil]

Yes because I am going for cinebench r23 stable. Not prime95 small fft with avx on stable

[prisma anvil]

I see, I thought that as well but looks like we are all wrong. Intel just overvolt the crap on 12900ks and binned slightly

Also another tester estimated a 100 SP 12900ks is about 108-110 SP 12900k

Makes sense.

Less bs than 9900ks 🤣 but still bs

[molten flame]

12900KS will drop in price rather quickly because not much demand for it tbh considering the MSRP

[prisma anvil]

Yeah. Also z590 has some bs setting that keeps the cpu downclocking itself

Like wtf is intel thinking

I have to manually do some bs to lock it

On both aorus and asus board

Like do they do this because 11th gen are absolutely dog water at doing all core oc? Cause I think so

What a joke

I wish pc just works man. I recently saw someone crash in valorant on 5800X until he updated to the newest bios due to clock being too high.

Like wtf

[molten flame]

5800X tries to boost too hard in most configs

If I had one I'd set a manual clock/voltage

5900X/5950X are much more efficient CPUs ironically

5800X will draw only like 7-10% less power than a 5900X, while being nearly 50% slower in multithread

5800X will draw the same amount or even more power than a 5950X in gaming lol

[prime jasper]

Valorant is shit only 120 fps in gtx 1660ti oc

[quick locust]

Quite a pc case

[prime jasper]

Wut?

[marsh gull]

its actually decently cool lmao

[digital tundra]

Wtf

[potent crypt]

Hi can someone help me?
I'm trying to start battlefield 5 but it seems to crash every time

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-zen3-cpu-has-finally-been-tested-in-games

5800X3D obliterates the 12900KS in games

Almost 30% faster in Witcher 3

30% faster in FFXV

10% faster in Shadow of the Tomb Raider

[pale quartz]

thats every zen 1 product basically

IMC for all the bins were bad or garbage

[pale quartz]

this is the k f model, not the ks

[molten flame]

KS isn't even good tho

2% faster than the K at 720p gaming

[peak dust]

Trying to play BF3 for the first time on PC, mouse does not work properly, how would I fix this?

[humble iris]

I had issues with Battlefield 2042. I hope they fix this, there is some known issue. Not sure about BF3. But with 2042 I got mine working good on foot, but in vehicles there is still a huge latency issue. like a half second sometimes. It has something to do with high mouse sensitivity or speed. I can't remember how I fixed mine, but it is still not perfect. you might try this. I'm sure there are other guides as well. But it is fixable. If this is the same issue you are having. https://progameguides.com/battlefield/how-to-fix-mouse-input-lag-in-battlefield-2042/

[molten flame]

RX 7900 XT will have 7 chiplets in total, lots of 3D dies

[humble iris]

I have this weird issue, maybe it's normal, But I've been experimenting with Amp Simulation. When running these amp sims the guitar is input into the audio interface. I was getting crackles and pops pretty bad. So I just set the Windows Advanced Power Options: Minimum Processor state to 100% and this fixed the issue. It's weird because the CPU is at less then 3% usage even when set to minimum of %5. So it's not really using CPU at all. Any ideas why this cause audio processing issues?

[humble iris]

I'm doing some research, I wonder if its because I have AVX & AVX2 but not AVX 512. The requirements are i5-2500 to i5-6600. So AVX-512 is not required, but I wonder if that's why I need full 100% CPU Clock on 6950X?

Does any CPU come with AVX-512?

WOW this is garbage, just when I need it. https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-is-set-to-disable-avx-512-on-its-12th-gen-cpus/

Intel disables AVX-512 on 12th gen Alder Lake.

[molten flame]

Now, it's not just disabled; it's lasered off entirely

AMD has never had AVX-512 until Zen 4 comes out, also unclear if Intel will bring it back for 13th gen

AFAIK 13th gen most likely won't have it either

[humble iris]

I wonder if the X CPUs will have it

[molten flame]

Honestly Alder-Lake-X could force AMD into launching Threadripper 7000 earlier than they plan

Maybe 16+32 cores and hex-channel memory while being cheaper than Threadripper 5000

[humble iris]

Looks like AVX512 only on Xeon CPUs

[molten flame]

Core X naming is gone for Intel HEDT

Maybe Xeon naming will cover HEDT now idk

[humble iris]

Yeah I think they are supposed to be on W790 Sapphire Rapids-x HEDT

Who knows, it's all delayed I think anyway

[molten flame]

Delayed to keep feeding enterprise more chips instead

[humble iris]

I guess maybe my issue is not with AVX512, as I found loads of this issue. Maybe I did this because I Sub Consciously remembered it from the past. https://www.google.com/search?q=cracks+and+pops+audio+minimum+processor+state looks like an audio issue at large with processor power state below 100%

might as well just go into bios and overclock my CPU on all cores.

I was trying to be power conscience.

Now I have my GPU running 1200MHZ idle, and CPU at 3+GHZ idle.

[molten flame]

The audio codec on my motherboard would crackle or kinda stutter occasionally but it went away with BIOS update

[humble iris]

I always disable my onboard audio before installing the OS.

[molten flame]

There is some affordable boards out there with great built-in audio

[humble iris]

I have Sapphire Pro 14 interface for music recording, and a Soundblaster Z for gaming and normal audio.

I was going to get a Classified board with the SoundBlaster Chip but it was only the chip, no amps or anything.

[molten flame]

Usually motherboards that have high quality audio and EMI shielding for the codec are beyond $300 lol

[humble iris]

yeah my boards are always over $300 at the time I think the Classified with the SBZ chip was closer to $500

[jagged pecan]

Sup guys

I just got my new pee see

Dm me if you want to see my setup

[humble iris]

just link a pic, or set it up at Builds.gg

[jagged pecan]

Tf is builds.gg

[humble iris]

here's mine https://builds.gg/builds/raid-red-rtx-ws-14981

[jagged pecan]

Tham

[humble iris]

That's pretty clean, I like the lighting

[jagged pecan]

Thanks

Is it good for a 14 year old

???

[humble iris]

Wow man, I didn't have anything like that when I was 14

[jagged pecan]

☺️

Lol yeah I got the pc as a gift for christmas

[humble iris]

We had to eat our cereal with a fork, and pass the milk to a sibling.

[jagged pecan]

Lol

Quick question what you need 5 monitors for???

[humble iris]

5?

I have more like 8

[jagged pecan]

FOR WHAT???

[humble iris]

the 3 are for regular multi-tasking like music production or gaming and monitoring, the big TV is for 4K gaming and watching movies, and weather. I have TV for bedtime, and the one in the background is my PC repair station. and the 8th is just an extra FreeSync monitor

there are more but.. in other rooms

[jagged pecan]

😐

Lol

I rarely run bf

Lol I got my setup for meinkampf

"Minecraft"

You running a 2080???

[humble iris]

well minecraft can be fun, especially when setting up servers, All my 3 kids play Minecraft

[jagged pecan]

Oh

Nice

I usually play bedwars

[humble iris]

my oldest runs a server

[jagged pecan]

Oh cool

Who's in it

???

Just the kids

[humble iris]

yeah and their friends

[jagged pecan]

That's cool

[humble iris]

its fairly simple

[jagged pecan]

Lol I wish I had friends to run a server with

I had friends but not anymore

[humble iris]

that sucks

[jagged pecan]

They were all fake who made fun of my old laptop and then when I got a setup that costs all of theirs combined they started wanting to be friends with me so I left them all

Do you work as anything like technical like engineering cause tham having sucha big setup and good setup is kinda insane just for a original person

[humble iris]

Nah just been doing PC stuff for many years

[jagged pecan]

Oh cool

One thing that sucks for me is that I got garbage wifi

[prime jasper]

Nice
What is your setup config?

[cosmic warren]

RX 570 8gb is perfect for BFV

[prime jasper]

Gtx 1660ti oc better

[digital tundra]

Gtx 1660ti oc super rtx rx

[dry pike]

ASICs for mining Bitcoin flattened. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/u2f8cb/seized_asics_from_illegal_bitcoin_mining/ I believe an ASIC is at least 2000usd.

[supple bane]

let me guess. you have a 1660ti?

[prime jasper]

[supple bane]

its a good budget card.. i advocated it a lot when it was new.

nearly brought one myself.

[rain void]

when did it come out?

[supple bane]

guessing im gonna say 2020

survey says

[rain void]

the 1660?

[supple bane]

close.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-make-a-big-splash-with-zen4-raphael-memory-overclocking

Joseph Tao promising that AM5 will be able to reach extremely high DDR5 speeds compared to current Intel offerings

[digital tundra]

Virus

[cosmic warren]

no but i got this 570 for 100

so way better price to performance ratio bb

[prisma anvil]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/23.html

Yep. 12700K is a better buy.

However 5800X 3D is still a good buy if you already have am4 platform.

Like I expected. Get 12600k or 12700k. Slap a 5ghz + all P core oc. Get some micron rev e or Samsung B die memory, U save money and have fps. Heck get 5900X and pbo2 the crap out of it is a great idea as well.

Shadow of tomb raider tied 12700k and lost to 12900k in 720p.

[molten flame]

3D cache is better in CPU bound games

Especially on modern engines

Look at the 1% lows in games

Gigabyte RX 6950 XT Gaming card is priced almost as high as RTX 3090 Ti in first retailer listing

[prisma anvil]

All of them are memes

When 3090 ftw3 ultra already have a 500w power limit u already know it's a meme.

[molten flame]

I think 6950XT is raised to 350W TDP

Mainly to due with the faster memory chips?

[prisma anvil]

Yeah more money instead of dragging a slider

[molten flame]

Honestly 6950XT kinda already exists if you look at the LC models of 6900XT

[prisma anvil]

Xtxh chips have memory slider unlocked already

And people and oc that to absolutely hell

Just dragging a slider

[prime jasper]

Xbox series s will survive one year more

[molten flame]

Xbox Series S is very powerful for its size

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[prisma anvil]

Also I see 6900xt constantly reach around 2.6ghz to 2.7ghz anyways.

[pale quartz]

LLC, it will auto target a voltage based on active utilisation, you can fix this by adjusting it manually in the BIOS and setting the minimum back to 3-5%

[prisma anvil]

Just by ocing

[molten flame]

RDNA1 performance/clock scaling was so bad now that I look back at it, RDNA2 makes me realize

[pale quartz]

RDNA's power target is much more moderate compared to ampere/turing, it will consistently aim for the highest possible clock it can even if youre at like 80 degrees, nvidias is much more aggressive with downclocking once you exceed 60 degrees (in other words, its terrible)

[molten flame]

Is it possible to keep a RTX 3090 below 50C with waterblock?

My brother had a waterblock on his Titan Pascal few years back and it stayed in the low 40s under load

[pale quartz]

depends on the power target, and if its running a shunt

you push a 3090 beyond say 400 watts youll have trouble staying under 50, under 350 its doable though

320-350 base freq range

[molten flame]

There's no way that a FE 4090 is 600W TDP imo

It might be able to draw that but I bet the official TDP is gonna be 450-500W

[pale quartz]

600 4090? yeah no

it becomes physically impossible to cool that level of heat it doesnt matter how many fans you have

or how big the card is even

[molten flame]

Honestly hardware designed for gaming should be regulated heavily in power usage

1 single component that can draw 600 watts when playing a game should be illegal lol

[pale quartz]

this basically never happens

TDP isnt measured based on game utilisation

games will 99% of the time never max out a card, to do that you have to push a card to its absolute limit with frequency, load and voltage

[molten flame]

Does enabling ray-tracing increase power draw of GPU?

[pale quartz]

yes

[molten flame]

I assume RT cores don't pull much

[pale quartz]

it isnt about how much the cores pull in terms of power

its about how efficient a respective core is in terms of the instruction relative to the core itself

[molten flame]

RTX 4090 will be heavily underutilized in 1440p and below imo, the 3090 already is in some cases

[pale quartz]

unsurprisingly RT is much less efficient than regular rasterisation for being executed

[pale quartz]

this has always been a myth

the reality is they arent "under utilised" even with a 3090, the 3090 was never built with 1440p/1080p performance for floating point in mind

it was always aimed at higher resolutions e.g. 4k and what not (because nvidia segregated the cores into int32 with ampere)

[molten flame]

Ik lol they even marketed the 3090 for 8K gaming lmfao

I find it weird that RDNA3 is built with 5nm and 6nm GPU dies, normally architectures are built for 1 specific node

5nm and 6nm are very different too

[pale quartz]

no they arent

5nm is built from 6nm, they are compatible in terms of backporting with either

[molten flame]

[pale quartz]

and RDNA3 is a MCM GPU, you arent going to have multiple dies using the same node

[molten flame]

5nm Zen 3 when

[pale quartz]

waste of sand

[molten flame]

Lol

Console refresh will probably keep using Zen 2 but on 6nm or even 5/4nm

[pale quartz]

sony/microsoft if they wanted to could use zen 3, the SOCs already integrate half of what either zen architecture has with each other

would be relatively straightforward

[molten flame]

PS5 Slim rumored to be this year or next, wouldn't surprise me given the feedback of PS5's size

[prisma anvil]

Yes tuned 3 3080ti at 450W power limit. Max temp was 52C

[pale quartz]

a 3090, not a 3080ti

[prisma anvil]

Almost Same power draw.

[molten flame]

3090 got all that extra memory puts more strain on IMC

[pale quartz]

it isnt about the power draw

the 3080ti has less CUDA cores and (as above) slower memory than the 3090, it is much easier to cool than it

[prisma anvil]

Not by much tbh. If I lm it under 50 shouldn't be hard

[fallen harbor]

guys im kinda going nuts here at work and I know I shouldn't be asking on the internet how to do my job but, idk. This laptop was overheating and I found out the cpu fan wasn't spinning so I bought a new one but it won't spin either. I googled and it seems I need to reset the bios to factory settings, but I really can't find how to do that. On a Desktop I would just remove the round battery from the motherboard and replace it later, but I don't see any removable battery in this laptop's motherboard aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I f anybody knows what I have to do I will supercalifragilistipuestialidosily appreciate it

[pale quartz]

its by quite a lot actually, the 3080ti has the memory on one side of the card and the 3090 is on both sides of the PCB

[molten flame]

3080Ti has 70 SMs while 3090 has 80, but there is tiny performance margin between the two. Ampere doesn't seem to scale well past 60 SMs tbh

[pale quartz]

quite a stark difference in terms of card heat

[prisma anvil]

And that's why EK have double sided cooling blocks

Like a sandwich

[pale quartz]

yeah, it doesnt change that situation though

the volumetric heat from a 3090 is much bigger than a 3080ti regardless if the block itself is double sided

[prisma anvil]

Well depends I never really tested a 3090 on water yet

[pale quartz]

also why the 3090ti is regarded as "not hot" (it is)

[prisma anvil]

I have the build picture of the 3080ti on water I tested

They look beautiful

[molten flame]

Rather have 3090 over 3080Ti even if the difference is more than $300 lol

12GB not enough for 4K ray-tracing imo

[prisma anvil]

If u play 4K

[pale quartz]

half of the games at 4k run out of memory on the 3080ti so yeah it defo isnt enough

[prisma anvil]

HZD

[pale quartz]

just bumping up to 16GB is going to slow the card down with that memory topology

[prisma anvil]

I wish I can share some picture of the custom loop my friends company built

Anyways the bin on 3080ti are all over the place one was 1v 2070mhz stable other one is 1v 1980mhz stable

[pale quartz]

pretty straightforward lol, upgrade the BIOS, or go into the BIOS and turn it to factory settings, either will reset it

[pale quartz]

2GHz nvidia curse 101

[prisma anvil]

I was undervolting it to 1v cause I don't want it to hit the power limit in 1440p gaming

[pale quartz]

you could probably get away with 1.09 on that then

if 1v is enough for 1980

[prisma anvil]

And these numbers are on water with core around 50C. Going over 2ghz sustained on air u lucked out unless u running 1080p

[fallen harbor]

I'm not finding any "factory settings" in the bios. Guess I will try downloading an update for it

[pale quartz]

its not a setting

its a key

[molten flame]

AMD gonna hit 2.8 GHz stock with Navi 31 and 33 calling it now

[prisma anvil]

If my power limit is 500ish I think I can push more

[fallen harbor]

uuuh sorry if im getting too dense but wdym

[pale quartz]

its a key.. on your keyboard.., youll find it labelled under default settings within the BIOS

[fallen harbor]

I did find a RST in the bios with two connectors and connected them with a screwdriver but nothing happened

[prisma anvil]

Weird that 3070s and 3070ti with higher pl all pushing around 2.1ghz

[fallen harbor]

"Setup Default Values"?

[pale quartz]

yes

[prisma anvil]

The Strix 3070 damn

[fallen harbor]

okie

here goes ntohing

[prisma anvil]

Straight up lock the voltage at 1.1v and go HAM

[pale quartz]

the fact you need to push the card by 0.1 for 100MHz shows how terrible ampere/turing is with voltage scaling

[fallen harbor]

the fan still doesnt spin 😢

[pale quartz]

idk then lol send it in for repair

[prisma anvil]

Yeah and 20 series is no better

[pale quartz]

you shouldnt be messing with the internals of a laptop to begin with if you dont know what youre doing

[molten flame]

GeForce branch may not have a MCM based GPU until 2025/2026

[pale quartz]

blackwell is MCM

[prisma anvil]

I hope mcm don't have any driver/ latency issues

[molten flame]

It has slight latency penalties afaik

[prisma anvil]

But yeah I don't see Nvidia winning next gen performance wise

[pale quartz]

it will have latency penalties, not anything anyone will notice because its GDDR, and not DDR

its like slowing down a cheetah by 2% for it to double its total distance

[molten flame]

GDDR is bandwidth focused, latency hardly affects it

[pale quartz]

precisely

[molten flame]

Hence why those Zen 2 CPUs that run on GDDR6 are so slow compared to DDR4

CPUs want latency

[pale quartz]

eh nah

its not a CPU issue

its a zen 2 specific issue

put a zen 3 on that it wont be anywhere near as bad

[molten flame]

Zen 3 unified cache strikes again

[pale quartz]

CCX

[prisma anvil]

My friend is being a I found a 3080ti (dell oem) for 900 and I calculated I can get a 12700k + 3080ti build for under 2k

He hesitating

If he miss the 3080ti deal then GG

[pale quartz]

ehh

its dell we're talking about not any regular old 3080ti

it'll either be a space heater or die within x years

[prisma anvil]

Nah this one is good it's not a blower

GN reviewed it

The temps are really good and it's founders pcb

Only horrible part it's 320W power limit but hey not a space heater

[pale quartz]

most likely ripped from the Aurora then

[prisma anvil]

Yes. My other friend got one. It did 1830mhz at 0.825v

Tjunction was 82c

[pale quartz]

[prisma anvil]

I was ignoring the post till I saw the GN video. And after opening the card dell actually put more thermal paste between the middle mem plate and the heat sink compare to GN's video

I was like dell actually listening what in the God's holy

[humble iris]

Thanks for the reply. There is literally no utilization on the CPU. No matter how many effects I enable. it's just idle at like 3%. I looked in my BIOS, there are no power state settings, only the standard voltage settings, turbo, speedstep, etc.. Maybe this noise is simply the frequency itself causing the pops and cracks.

[pale quartz]

LLC auto targets voltage, the load does not matter

set the LLC to a static number and you should fix the issue

[humble iris]

Ahh Okay, I see. Thanks.

[pale quartz]

np

[humble iris]

But won't the voltage stay at minimum if the CPU usage is at 3%

[pale quartz]

no, voltage scales according to frequency, not core load

[humble iris]

thanks

[pale quartz]

[jagged pecan]

What does config mean

[prime jasper]

Configurations

[jagged pecan]

Like specs???

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[jagged pecan]

Ima write this out it gonna take a bit

[prime jasper]

No problem

[jagged pecan]

PC:
Rtx3070 8gb
11th gen core i7
64gb of ram
Liquid cooling

Monitor 1:
24.5 inch asus monitor
IPS display
1ms response time
280hz
Gsync

Monitor 2:
20in Dell monitor
60hz
Freesync
1ms

For mouse I have glorious model o

And for keyboard I have the hyperx Alloy Orgin Core tkl linear reds

[jagged pecan]

Here it is

[prime jasper]

Woah 10k build nice?

[jagged pecan]

No lol it was like 6k

[prime jasper]

Man I got scared when you said 64gb ram

[jagged pecan]

Lol

[molten flame]

$6K for i7-11700K and RTX 3070 build???

[prisma anvil]

I think I scored a 3080 suprim X for 750

Hopefully everything goes smoothly on Friday

[molten flame]

I wanted to buy a dead GTX 980Ti MSI Lightning it was only like $30 very cool looking card to add to collection

[prisma anvil]

That's a nice piece 4 sure

[lapis sluice]

need a laptop for college - price range around 1000 usd - any recommendations would be great help!

[molten flame]

i9-13900K could boost beyond 5.5 GHz

E-cores around 4.6 GHz

P-cores rumored for at least 5.7 GHz

[molten flame]

5800X3D overclocked to 4.8GHz using BLCK

High potential danger to the 3D chip doing so

[digital hill]

Question what does 3d stand for?

[oak cave]

three dimensional

[stable ledge]

The sound effect is not as good as that in the Ravenfield mod?

[marsh gull]

dayum looked it up its pretty cool looking ngl

[marsh gull]

hp envy x360 isnt too bad, thought most of their 13 inch models are over 1000usd (for decent spec-ones)

so 15 inch is the way to go if you want good value

[molten flame]

5800X3D draws only as much power as an i3-12100 under load lmao

Very efficient CCD is being used

[molten flame]

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_5800x3d_review,22.html

[pale quartz]

yeah I was thinking the same that dude got scammed harder than 3090ti buyers

[pale quartz]

zephyrus g14 2020/2021 model and you're done

[novel saffron]

Question. If I'm running a game on a 120hz monitor with G-Sync on. Should I cap it 2-3 below the frame rate?

[quick locust]

No

[quick locust]

And says he uses it for mc lol

64 GB is stupid but probably was used to justify price to dumb customer

[humble iris]

Maybe they including everything like desk, chair, monitors, peripherals, RGB room lighting, etc... If I added up my entire setup it would be like 100k or more.

[jagged pecan]

The rog g14

[humble iris]

Yes.

I cap at 140 otherwise you get latency and screen tearing if it goes above, I also turn vsync OFF.

I also use the low latency mode set to Ultra, I've heard it will auto limit the fps to 138, but I still set the frame rate to 140. it's changed a bit over the years, I spent a week testing my game play, I always play better with these settings. Also check that G-Sync is enable Windowed, and Fullscreen if you have anything running in windowed mode.

I would screen shot my settings, but I still do not have rights here, I don't think I will ever level up in here.

There is also a setting in windows called Game Mode, I turn that ON as well.

[prisma anvil]

11700k and 3070 build I did on 1300 USD

[molten flame]

With the way prices are dropping that build could be possible for under $1000 in a couple months if trend continues

Though it would be way better to have a 12600K/12400 than a 11700K lol

[humble iris]

I'm glad things are leveling out, but it's not over yet.

[prime jasper]

The war is not over yet.

[molten flame]

Damn boi

5800X3D almost 20% faster than 12900KS in MSFS 2020
The 1% lows of the X3D are even higher than the average fps on 12900KS lol

[storm osprey]

i see these new cpus and want one, but then i remember i got my 10700k for 290 bucks and then i feel a tiny bit better

[lunar gulch]

156-198 fps in 2042 @ 390hz refresh rate. holla

[molten flame]

390Hz proven useless

I think monitors don't need to go above 240Hz

[solar kestrel]

im at a loss of words rn for how my pc is acting

i only have firefox and discord and task manager open

and my ram is 13.4/15.9 gb used

wait nvm i figured it out

[proud trellis]

if you have tarkov open then thats probs your answer lol

[novel saffron]

Thank you @humble iris

[humble iris]

Stick with it, saving money, tech gets better, and prices will eventually come down. With every tech purchase I always find a better deal later and think if I only I waited a little bit. There are 2 sayings about tech that contradict each other.
1. If you wait for the next best thing, you will never buy it
2. If you wait, you get better things.

[humble iris]

I did that the other day, I was running a VM and forgot to shut it down.

[humble iris]

You're Welcome!

[prime jasper]

Should I wait for the 4000 series?

[humble iris]

Sorry Internet is out. I'm stuck on my mobile now until they fix it. What GPU are you currently using? If you are not having any issues, or limitations there is no need to upgrade. These days people upgrade for the sake of upgrading and bragging rights. Or maybe benchmarking which has $0 profits. I myself have been there which is why I can see it.

[prime jasper]

I am using a gtx 1660ti 3 fan oc

[humble iris]

What monitor?

or just Hertz, and resolution?

[prime jasper]

360hz

[humble iris]

WTF! yeah you need a 3090TI or 4080 or something, especially if plan on gaming above 1080p, other wise 360hz is as useless as tits on a boar.

[prime jasper]

I only use 360hz for minecraft bedwars lol

[humble iris]

Yeah but are you getting 360FPS?

[prime jasper]

Yes smooth

Real smooth

[humble iris]

wow then you are good.

[prime jasper]

Well anyways I use a 144 Hz monitor for other games

[humble iris]

I'm not sure how the 1660Ti compares to like 3080/2080 etc..

what's the Vram capacity

[prime jasper]

6gb

I will wait for the 4000 series

I got it

[humble iris]

Yeah Ima wait for Intel to get it together before I make a choice. But a 2080 XC2 Ultra will last me a while yet. still have like 7 years of warranty.

If my setup holds out with no break downs, I'll be good another year or or 2 for sure.

.
Here it is. next week. https://egmnow.com/battlefield-2042s-april-patch-will-include-400-fixes-next-week/

[toxic wigeon]

What's with Speccy not picking up my processor?

[north crow]

which processor? are you on the newest version of speccy?

[toxic wigeon]

5600x yes. I downloaded it when I got the PC fresh yes.

[north crow]

huh, strange

when you say it's not picking it up, is it not showing anything at all or something more generic like "Ryzen 5000 series processor"?

I remember the latter happening at some point (unless that was with GPUs, not CPUs)

oh lol

this is on my laptop with a 5650U

it seems like it's detecting each logical core as a separate CPU...?

can recommend hwinfo64 as a good alternative though, it seems to detect everything fine

[quick locust]

Yeah speccy is inaccurate sometimes

Easier for people to see and list specs with but inaccurate

[molten flame]

MSI AM5 motherboard allegedly spotted running an AMD Ryzen 7000 ‘Zen 4’ desktop CPU at up to 1.532V

[prime jasper]

Some kid is saying gtx 1650 is great for 1080p gaming.
He needs serious help.

[quick locust]

🤔

[storm osprey]

thats such a blanket statement id say its wrong to take a stance either way

for the msrp price vs potential other cards msrp/used price? its a bad purchase

does it give good performance for almost every title except modern open world games at 1080p? yea

[prime jasper]

Horizon will burn this gpu

[storm osprey]

yea, noted with the "every title except modern open world games"

[prime jasper]

Yes sir

I will recommend rtx 3050 for 1080p gaming

👍

[storm osprey]

depends on a bunch of factors

[quick locust]

Depends on price of it and other cards

[storm osprey]

yea the general 1080p performance is good enough to where thats not the problem, but the problem always was that it was overpriced

[quick locust]

Yeah

Hopefully better supply drives it lower and lower since its the lowest ampere

[molten flame]

Should be seeing Zen 4 performance leaks soon

[quick locust]

Hopefully Arc as well

👀

On DT I mean, not the laptops

[molten flame]

2nd gen Arc is where all my hope resides

20480 core monster GPU

[midnight crypt]

But im already here

[molten flame]

[midnight crypt]

[molten flame]

@quick locust Arc Battlemage in Q2 2023?

GDDR7 should be ready by summer 2023

[molten flame]

RDNA3 won't have L3 cache in the graphics compute dies themself; all L3 will be 3D

Saves die space for the GCDs

[prime jasper]

guys i will ask you something

the colors look too pale in bf1

[humble iris]

Do you have a screen shot?

[prime jasper]

Bro wtf when did rdna 3 come out?

[humble iris]

I think this year maybe IDK

not yet though

[prime jasper]

I sent via dm

[humble iris]

is that a screen shot or phone pic?

It looks like the Origin/EA overlay is enabled/active and thats why maybe

[prime jasper]

from the phone above

screenshot below

[humble iris]

Yeah on the below/2nd pic the overlay is active, it puts a blackout over the image

Like opacity screen

[prime jasper]

What should I do

It's been like this since I reset the graphics card settings

[humble iris]

Turn off the overlay, or just put it to rest, usually Shift + F1 I believe

you do realize the overlay is active, you can see the steam overlay item in your picture, like even steam google chrome is open. its putting an ovelay fade over your game.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/964630115034202252/964630381624184884/unknown.png

Maybe shift tab or whatever

[prime jasper]

I just opened the interface to show

same problem in game

I guess I'll play with the graphics card settings

[humble iris]

cant really see the issue if the overlay is open, maybe the screen is not going away, have you tried disabling the overlay. I was wanting to see the actual screen shot of the game to see if maybe it was your monitor, and the actual settings, cause the chrome browser and everything looks fine from here. couldn't see your game.

[prime jasper]

@humble iris I sent dm

[quick locust]

Probably Probably

Oh double

[prime jasper]

i solved the problem temporarily

I chose frameless mode instead of fullscreen and the problem went away

[humble iris]

Weird, sounds like a glitch.

[pale quartz]

speccy has not been updated by the developer in quite a long time, it isn't compatible with the ryzen architecture (unfortunately)

[molten flame]

Hwinfo64 optimal

[marsh gull]

turn down your in game brightness it should help

[humble iris]

I use mostly CPUID HWMonitor for basic monitoring, same developer as CPUz. I've been using those for 15 or 20 years it feels like, but I also use HWinfo if I need more readings.
https://www.cpuid.com/

[humble iris]

Alder Lake -X may be an HEDT possibly

[river plume]

Should i get Arctis 9 WRL or will Arctis 7 WRL be enough

if i dont really care about the bluetooth

[prime jasper]

Colors appear washed out even when brightness is set to zero

uh

low settings 30 fps

[marsh gull]

oh ok

[molten flame]

@quick locust Intel Arc desktop GPUs delayed again

Looking like June to August launch

[quick locust]

Oh well

Getting closer to battlemage

[molten flame]

1st gen is gonna be a dumpster fire with the way things are looking

[humble iris]

I would rather it be delayed and have a proper launch, then release an unfinished buggy product.

[digital hill]

Yeah also for the chinese when are they selling there gpu?

[molten flame]

That would mean top end Arc A770 would have to be priced accordingly against 7700XT and the RTX 4070, which are both rumored to be $500-600 range

Both of those GPUs are gonna be at least 2x faster than the Arc A770 lmao

[digital hill]

I mean they could do well

if they put it for like 200-400

[molten flame]

No way in hell is 1st gen Arc GPUs gonna even come close to RTX 4000 or RX 7000 in price or performance, it's not even a comparison honestly

These GPUs are even slower than current Nvidia and AMD offerings by a city mile

[digital hill]

So intel is kinda screwed

Could do well with oem but I mean thats it

[molten flame]

Intel is gonna have to rely on their 2nd gen which will quadruple the shader core count with MCM design similar to what RDNA3 does

[humble iris]

As long as there is more choices, Nvidia, and AMD have been robbing us on those prices. Taking advantage of peoples careless buying habits. Not everyone buys or wants the most powerful, they just want something that works at reasonable price.

[digital hill]

True 700-800 for a 3070 is just too high

[humble iris]

somehow in 10 years a GPU went from 350.00 to 1200.00

That's not inflation, it's infatuation.

[molten flame]

Intel GPU die sizes are like 2.5x larger than their CPUs, which means GPUs are much, much less profitable than their high-end CPUs like the 12900K and KS

[humble iris]

How much does it cost Nvidia to produce a chip? Today

[molten flame]

Honestly first gen Intel GPUs are just a test bed, to iron out early adopter problems

[molten flame]

RTX 3000 GPUs are almost dirt cheap to produce because Samsung 8nm is far more cheaper than TSMC 7nm

GDDR6X memory on RTX 3000 GPUs isn't very cheap tho

[humble iris]

I'm curious the actual profits on a single GPU produced from raw to consumer.

I'm guessing 70-80% profit

[molten flame]

Intel 2nd gen Arc will probably blow past the RTX 4090 and maybe even RX 7900XT, but that's only if they can get the core count to scale well with performance

[humble iris]

That sounds like a good deal.

[prime jasper]

Is it normal to get 30 fps on lowest setting with nvidia 1650ti 8gb ram i5 10400f?

[humble iris]

depends on the game

and resolution

[prime jasper]

really frustrating situation

Color fades when full screen

When I get it framed, the colors come but it starts to freeze

[humble iris]

Maybe try clean installing new driver

also maybe try deleting the games settings folder and start from scratch

or even clean reinstall the game

[prime jasper]

I reset everything

[prime jasper]

This seems to be the last resort

[humble iris]

yeah sometimes getting rid of the settings files helps to really reset, no residuals present

Persoanlly I would do all 3 things

Clean Install driver, DDU.
Clean Install game, delete any left over files/folders before reinstalling

[prime jasper]

downloading the game is also a separate problem

[humble iris]

Probably restart the PC after uninstalling/removig

[prime jasper]

My internet speed is not very good.

[humble iris]

Do you not save game installs in the cache in origin

or does it even still have that option

[prime jasper]

I did not understand

[humble iris]

in origin settings for certain games it can keep the installers. It's in Origin >> Application Settings >> Installs & Saves >> Keep Legacy game installers. By default it's saved here I think, not sure about default location.
C:\Origin Games\DownloadCache\cache

(?) If you'd like, you can keep the game installers around even after you have installed the game

[prime jasper]

what does this file do, does it save game settings or something?

[humble iris]

I saves the game installer so you don't have to download again

it might need to download some files, but not the bulk of it

saves internet data for next time you need to reinstall the game

Also uses up storage space, so keep that in mind as well

Not all games allow this

It's nice to have a bulk HDD for things like this

[prime jasper]

hmm, I understand

So what is the size of these files?

[humble iris]

Depends on the game, but usually about 60-70% of the actual game size before all extraction and de-compression

This is purely speculating BTW (Guessing)

[prime jasper]

thanks for your help

[humble iris]

No problem, glad to help. hope is useful

[prisma anvil]

HOLY the 3080 suprim X is MASSIVE

It dwarfs my 3080ti ftw3 ultra

best 750 bucks I spent lol

literally big chungus

I am excited to see the clock speed of this thing

[molten flame]

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source

Nvidia going open source for kernel driver in linux

[molten flame]

3080 12GB?

[humble iris]

They know more, and more people are moving to Linux. I might be as well. At least for my business productivity.

Hopefully gaming becomes more prevalent in Linux

[quick locust]

Yup, though only for Tegra and other low end ones.

They said they had licence issues with other companies that prevent them from doing the main graphics driver open source. No idea though

[quick locust]

Chicken and egg thing. Hopefully steam deck pushes it up a bit, currently 1% of active steam users.

[humble iris]

Is Linux/Windows Crossplay?

It's just still not worth it for game devs to support linux I guess.

[quick locust]

They're both PC, so yes.

[quick locust]

Too few users for a lot of devs to support

[humble iris]

Does anyone know if it would make a difference having VST/3 plugins, and AAX installed on NVMe vs HDD?
Maybe what's causing Snap, Crackle, Pop, on amp sim plugin.

[pale quartz]

you have a weak processor, GPU and memory, so yeah it's pretty normal

[pale quartz]

potentially, tldr you shouldn't segregate plugin installations from the main drive, as they're constantly being fetched

especially not on something like a hard drive, I/O audio depends heavily on low latency, good drives (that is anything but a hard drive)

[sinful mantle]

You are bottle necking your processor...Your GPU is more powerful than your processor you need to step up the settings to at least medium (I'd try high with your rig and also get another 8 gigs of ram) to take the load off that processor

[prime jasper]

i was seeing 120fps on medium settings now 20fps on lowest setting

[sinful mantle]

there ya go

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-13th-gen-core-raptor-lake-p-14-core-mobile-cpu-performance-leaked-faster-than-core-i9-12900hk

[sinful mantle]

I'm kinda glad BF2042 fell flat so I have a good excuse to hold off buying a new machine...there's so much more coming our way soon

[proud trellis]

well i dont know if im gonna upgrade either because to what you said, games these days arent the best and they arent worth buying and plus i dont spend much time on my pc as much as i used to

[sinful mantle]

yeah I'm there as well...after a re-install of windows the only games I have on this build is BF3/BF4/and BFV

all run on Ultra

[prime jasper]

Anyone use IEM's for gaming?

[proud trellis]

i to only play a hanfull of games which at the moment is rust, tarkov, WW3 and sometimes FIVEM

and the only other thing i use my pc for is homework and editing sometimes

[sinful mantle]

I trade options and stream music...only time I game these days is if someone asks me to go in game with them

[prime jasper]

I play games

[sinful mantle]

man I wouldn't want to put that in my ear...too much could go wrong

i dont even use buds as is

[prime jasper]

?

[sinful mantle]

you were talking about the insertable IEM audio devices?

[prime jasper]

Yes...

[sinful mantle]

you use them?

[prime jasper]

I don't use IEM's but was thinking if getting some nice ones. About $700 USD.

[sinful mantle]

damn!

better to get a nice pair of studio monitors

[prime jasper]

I don't use speakers/monitors. I don't want to disturb everyone in my house

[sinful mantle]

i see

[prime jasper]

That is why the in ear idea. Plan on getting headphones as well but thinking IEM first.

[sinful mantle]

they have to fit perfectly to fully utilize noise cancelation

and you have to keep them clean in order to avoid an inner ear bacterial infection

[prime jasper]

Easy day. I have been using in ear ear buds for years. Never had issues. Sure these are not any different.

[prisma anvil]

10gb

no way I can score a 3080 suprim X 12gb for 750. That's 750 total. no tax.

[sinful mantle]

you have to insert them directly into your ear cavity not outside like ear buds...very different

[prime jasper]

Yes. No problems though...

[sinful mantle]

i could not do that...would drive me crazy

[humble iris]

Thank you for the input, that really makes sense. I'll move them to the OS NVMe.

[pale quartz]

np

[quasi raptor]

what should I get?
a laptop with rtx 3060, i5 11400, 8gb ram and 144hz display for 1000€
or a pc with ryzen 5600x, rtx 3060, 16gb ram for 1500€

[supple bane]

that pc will smash that laptop

it wont even be a competition

[proud trellis]

i'd go for a pc over a laptop any day

[umbral compass]

@quasi raptor Go PC, but try to build it yourself. Pre-builds are always overpriced. I'd honestly wait for a bit and see, if graphics card prices will go down a tad more (gamble though). I did a quick search: 5600x for 227€, 3060 starting at 450€ and 16gb starting at 50€, motherboard 70€ - 150€, 2TB SSD starting at 140€, and 90€ for my computer case, but you could go cheaper, not up to date with best cooler, but I guess 40-50 for a decent one. So way cheaper then the 1500€ they are asking for. 3060 still overpriced, would wait till 3070 is back to, let's say, 550. But will this ever happen? ^^ Put in some time, and check parts/reviews/prices!

[molten flame]

Zen 3D currently has only one production line.
Zen 4 will have 3D V-cache, and current 3D packaging devices will switch to Zen 4 soon.

[toxic wigeon]

Do you need a laptop for travel??? That's the only reason why you should get a laptop.

[olive crane]

hey could someone help me with choosing a new laptop? I'm looking at one to play bfv and i currently have a 1060 but am looking at 3050ti setups or similar to boost my fps

and yes, i need a laptop

[sinful mantle]

half the pleasure of buying a new machine is doing the research

[humble iris]

Laptop are trash in my opinion, they always die somehow or another, bad battery, proprietary power supply, soldered on components, flimsy, weak. Anyway yeah I have one and only use it if I have to. Id rather dolly my giant behemoth around with me.

[molten flame]

Laptops have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years but next-gen desktop GPUs and CPUs are increasing power limits very significantly so we will see desktop performance truly leave mobile behind

[umbral compass]

Amen

[sinful mantle]

cats love to piss on laptops...I've lost two that way

[digital tundra]

No

the pleasure of buying a machine is when the parts are arriving and you are not sure if the parts are going to come correct or in good condition.

Or when you go to build the pc by yourself and it doesn't turn on

[sinful mantle]

or when you drop the processor on a wood floor like I did?

[digital tundra]

Amd user moment

[sinful mantle]

and try like the devil to straighten out the bent pins...sigh

[digital tundra]

Good thing my Intel processor doesn't have pins

[humble iris]

All done, running AAX, VST on NVMe.

I don't have the LLC setting in my BIOS X99 FTW

I'm still getting some snap crackle pop on my audio running the amp sims.

Sample Rate - 44.1k
Buffer - 64 samples @ 1.5ms latency```
I feel like I can get better, or at least relieve the snap/crackle/pop noise albeit only very light sometimes. 

So overclocking 6950x to say 4.0GHZ all core, as the amp sim is only putting about 20-30% load on 1 core, would the AVX offset set to 0 instead of 3 make these programs run better?
Note: it does not go to negative 3 (-3) but goes from 0 to 31, I'm guessing the offset is negative to allow overclocking benchmarks to score higher and be more stable.

I was also thinking if BF2042 uses AVX instructions then people may be crippling their systems for BF2042 performance. 

Anyway I'm down a rabbit hole now. But wanted my PC to perform these AMP sims like a champ and utilize its power for best audio.

I'm gonna try the 4.0GHZ all core, then maybe mess with the AVX offset. I need to find out if it's negative offset though. but I;m sure I'll know when program downclocks the core/thread

[humble iris]

Well happy to say it was a huge success.

Sample Rate - 48k
Buffer - 32 Samples @ 0.7ms latency

CPU - 4.0GHZ All Core
AVX Offset  0```
Not sure I could ever get it better then that. 
Would be curious if anyone can get their audio to process faster with a more modern CPU..

AVX Offset is set to 0

Not one single crack/pop/snap at all.

crystal clear audio processing

[humble iris]

It's weird after overclocking the CPU the thread usage is higher and everything is working correctly. However the program favors 1 thread and uses like 2 others very lightly. Maybe the program is unoptimized.

[buoyant sundial]

pc no laptop

[prime jasper]

Build yourself

[prime jasper]

you must have gotten really bad laptops

[humble iris]

No just all the ones I've repaired that people bring to me

Broken Screens, Overheated GPUs, Burned out HDMI ports, Bad motherboards, Faulty keyboards, Most of the time not worth repairing due to cost of parts, and labor.

Desktops are easy, replace an easy to get part.

I have a stack of abandoned laptops

[honest sandal]

My Msi gs63 stealth was plagued with issues

I’ve never had a gaming laptop actually last

[molten flame]

Zen 4 2D this year, Zen 4 3D next year

[sinful mantle]

https://siliconangle.com/2022/04/17/182-million-stolen-stablecoin-provider-beanstalk-farms-flash-loan-attack/

not as secure as we were led to believe

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/dells-proprietary-ddr5-module-locks-out-user-upgrades

🤨

[midnight crypt]

they're pulling an apple move

[marsh gull]

ye

[dry pike]

If Dell etc. want more compact memory modules they should have designed them as a standard with all the rest of the manufacturers. There is no excuse for this, bad Dell, BAD!

https://tenor.com/view/caroline-cameron-sportsnet-awful-absolutely-awful-horrible-gif-18101478

[prime jasper]

Asus good

[honest sandal]

people act like this is new from dell

Dell has always done this

[honest sandal]

i mean they're pulling a dell

they've been playing this game since the 90s

[dry pike]

Sure, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't point each time and tell them they are bad.
BAD DELL, BAD!

[honest sandal]

oh yeah they are bad

but i'm more or less addressing people being shocked

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-kitty-south-park-cartman-no-kitty-cat-gif-19137534

[lofty light]

Dell has proprietary motherboards in their desktops

[molten flame]

Zen 5 is gonna quadruple L1 cache over Zen 4 and unify the L2 cache per CCX

Bigger IPC jump than Zen 4 too

[dry pike]

But if I wait for Zen 5 then Zen 6 details will come and then I have to wait for that! 😄

[molten flame]

[honest sandal]

glares in intel

[dry pike]

enjoy buying new motherboards each generation 🙂

[honest sandal]

At least they didn't hire me and let me go on my start date like amd did

small price to pay lol

[dry pike]

don't know what that is a reference to but sounds bad

[supple bane]

either they applied for a job at AMD which is fucking dope. or its a metaphor for they got an amd cpu and it was doa

[honest sandal]

I got a job at AMD, quit the job I had, then come the day I'm supposed to start I get a call telling me I no longer have a job. And the news showed that 1,100 other people also lost their jobs at amd that day @dry pike

so, that was pretty cool

haven't directly supported amd since

[dry pike]

oh that sucks
understandable

[honest sandal]

so new mobos are a small price to pay lol

and yes i hold a grudge forever because im old and salty

[molten flame]

Was that during the time AMD was so broke they were about to file for bankruptcy

[honest sandal]

2012

[molten flame]

Yeah that was a bad time for them

[honest sandal]

Either way, they probably shouldn't be hiring people when they're laying people off at the same time

but yeah i'm excited to see what the new AMD processors have

[dry pike]

Head of companies that don't know what the ass is doing. Typical for big public companies sadly.

[molten flame]

New employees are actually the first to go when it comes to layoffs

[dry pike]

Good AMD processors make Intel processors better 🙂

[honest sandal]

Exactly

god damnit

i can't type today

[pale quartz]

according to who? lol

[molten flame]

Redgamingtech

[pale quartz]

ah right that dude who's been wrong on almost everything

[honest sandal]

Oh no Deco is here

[pale quartz]

ive not had any confirmation on z5 4x's l1 cache whatsoever lol

[pale quartz]

why are you here old man

go back to your retirement home this my domain

[honest sandal]

I think I'm lost

I've been dealing with technology longer than you've been alive, shush i'm here to learn from you kids

[pale quartz]

"what is a transistor i forgot"

[molten flame]

I've worked on computers that are twice my age lol

[dry pike]

Lots of interesting things to learn here

[honest sandal]

I've forgotten more about tech than you've ever known

[pale quartz]

ok sega genesis

[honest sandal]

This looks exciting

[dry pike]

Pff. Need to go from Amiga straight to NES, no Sega Genesis here!

[honest sandal]

What about the colecovision?

[molten flame]

@pale quartz Zen 5 should use V-cache to bridge CCDs

[dry pike]

Released late in EU so don't care about Colecovision

[pale quartz]

im not believing a single thing that fraud has to say until i get confirmation for myself lol

[molten flame]

Zen 5 uses Royal Cores and has integrated RTX 5090Ti on-board

[pale quartz]

"the TSVs are overclocked"

[dry pike]

Lets keep the names to ourselves. It's fair to want sources from people but lets keep it there.