technology

[pale quartz]

Nvidias current problem now is actually cooling the thing

that level of heat is totally insane and water cooling will even have a tough time to keep up

[molten flame]

3090Ti power consumption increase over the 3090 is probably due to the faster G6X alone

[pale quartz]

nah, it's just raw throughput

[molten flame]

21 Gbps memory gonna run so damn hot you'll probably see lots of reports of 3090Ti dying because of it

[pale quartz]

Nvidia are about to get totally washed by a 450W semi top Navi 31 card, and they will do what's necessary to not lose

and that includes blowing up power supplies

they'll still probably lose, funny enough

[molten flame]

I prefer my GPUs under 200 watts, with a single 8-pin connector

[pale quartz]

ah yes the good old days of the 2080ti

when 250W of power for a GPU was considered insane

you already have intel for that, if you put 2 fires on a match you'll cause a nuclear eruption

[quick locust]

13900K + 4090

[pale quartz]

tak be like let me uninstall my central heating and install these parts instead

[quick locust]

with these gas prices sure

jk

[molten flame]

Some 3090s can already spike up above 500 watts, maybe 4090 will spike close to 1000W

[pale quartz]

get crypto mining! intel would love for you to buy their $10000 mining chip, never need to buy gas again!

[pale quartz]

which is also why a whole load of 3090s broke power supplies, and well, went up in smoke

ampere going to look like Nvidia were in the south pole compared to Lovelace soon enough

[molten flame]

Companies raising the bar for power usage while simultaneously raising the bar for defective hardware

You think a 600W GPU could survive for years?

I predict that PCBs are gonna bend from the heat

[pale quartz]

the GPU? ampere coolers (reference) were already massively overengineeered for amperes ridiculous power consumption, but when you're talking 600W levels, some VRMs are definitely going to fry in under 2 years

nothing exists to handle that level of volumetric power, not that Nvidia ever cared about actually not causing space heater products

[molten flame]

People made fun of the GTX 480 for power usage and thermals

[pale quartz]

yeah Fermi will look like child's play by what's to come

bulldozer too

ironically whats even worse for Nvidia is actually buying Lovelace in hot climates will basically be, not an option, unless your house is powered by 5 air conditioners at all times

[molten flame]

Yep, even my 180W RX 580 heats up my room a lot

I have core frequency lowered by 5% plus an undervolt which brings it to around 100-120 watts

[pale quartz]

where are you from?

[molten flame]

Texas lol

[pale quartz]

I know navi 1.5 isn't exactly, great for efficiency, but like

ah explains it

rtx 40 going to cause a fire in your house with Texas temperatures

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71snT8AkqRo

[molten flame]

I've considered having my PC in another room and using a very long video output cable to my room

[pale quartz]

what's the average ambient temperature of your card?

[pale quartz]

not Logitech =

if you put the Logitech logo on it I, and everyone else will pay double for it

[storm osprey]

and add the hero sensor

[molten flame]

GPU doesn't touch near 70C with the frequency limit I have on it, ambient room temp is around 22C

[molten flame]

$80

[supple bane]

thats not bad for a wireless mouse

[pale quartz]

stock

[molten flame]

At stock it will hit 75C and won't go above that because WattMan will increase fan RPM

[storm osprey]

80 bucks for a wireless mouse that doesnt require replaceable batteries is pretty damn good

[pale quartz]

bruh holy shit lmao

[supple bane]

rn for me

thats stock powerdraw too, if i crank the power slider itll reach 87

[pale quartz]

that's just Nvidia default temperatures

[molten flame]

RTX 3090Ti confirmed launch date by reliable leaker, March 29th launch with extremely low availability

Heard there will only be a couple hundred available globally

[quick locust]

jayz' 1000 usd list

[molten flame]

Terrible build

[storm osprey]

only bad thing is gpu, and thats not his fault

[molten flame]

You can get RX 6600 for slightly above the price of that 1660 Super lmfao

For way more performance

[proud trellis]

i could sell my GPU for half of what i bought my pc for if they are going for 400 something

[storm osprey]

assuming you win the lottery and get a card at msrp

[quick locust]

yeah also 12400

[molten flame]

RX 6600 are in stock almost everywhere iirc

[storm osprey]

isnt the 5600x still better? also assuming mbs are much cheaper too

[molten flame]

5600X is roughly 3-5% faster than 12400

Marginal really

5600 and 5500 are coming with insane value

[quick locust]

and theres only 10 usd diff between B550M and B660M

for DS3H

[storm osprey]

arent 12400 going for 205?

only place i can find one in stock is amazon for that price

prices are similar enough and performance is similar enough i really dont see a point in arguing which one to get

[quick locust]

hm the 5600x is cheaper than 12400 here by tiny amount

298 usd vs 293 usd

[storm osprey]

i did find a 6600 sapphire pulse for 430

[molten flame]

Very good value with current market

RX 6600 trades blows with RTX 3060

[storm osprey]

only 100 more than msrp and in stock is the biggest selling point xD

[molten flame]

All of RX 6000 series isn't that far off from MSRP

6800XT and 6700XT are the only ones well above MSRP

[humble iris]

Intel HEDT 13th Gen Rapids-x coming it looks like can't wait to soo how awesome it is.. I wonder if Non-ECC is supported on these W680 boards with Alder Lake CPU?

[molten flame]

Non-ECC should be supported

Don't see why not

[humble iris]

I was thinking it should, my last 2 boards supported Xeon, and Core CPUs with ECC, and Non-ECC. I've been waiting a while for this to come to reality.

[molten flame]

Also Sapphire Rapids is gonna be insanely too expensive if the HEDT lineup has HBM3 present

You're looking at over $5k for CPU

[humble iris]

Yeah suppose to be like 64 or 128 PCIe 5.0 Lanes

Maybe for the Xeon parts, the Intel Core CPU hopefully have sub $1000 CPUs as well

[molten flame]

HEDT was so much better and affordable a few years ago

[humble iris]

7 years ago my CPU was almost $600

[molten flame]

Threadripper 5995WX is gonna cost close to $7000 apparently

Basically Epyc

[humble iris]

Yeah I'm not paying that kind of money, especially after this fuel economy and war gets done not going to be exactly rich afterwards

[pale quartz]

the boards do not officially support EEC to begin with, aka its using non EEC, so yes it does

buffered non ECC is regular RAM

there hasnt been a board, in ever, that has only supported EEC

[humble iris]

with Xeon CPU?

[pale quartz]

yes

[humble iris]

Well W680 will have a max of 28 PCIe Lanes anyway

I'll wait for W790

I think it's supposed to be 8-channel memory as well will have to wait and see

Well I guess we all knew this was coming. https://www.pcgamer.com/artesian-builds-shuts-down/

[vital hornet]

love how i hadnt heard of them until legit 3 days ago

[humble iris]

same here.

[restive flax]

Did you find a solution yet? The most I can play is a few minutes before pc crashes. This never happened before update, tried everything even windows re-install... most times the game doesn't even load before pc resets. So frustrating

[molten flame]

AMD announcement at GDC on March 21

[real matrix]

nope.

[molten flame]

TressFX 5.0 is coming

[restive flax]

@real matrix just found this thread on ea, may be a memory issue created by update

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Battlefield-2042-crashes-after-half-an-hour-without-an-error/td-p/10957586

[molten flame]

RTX 4000 series said to use GDDR7 but I doubt it

[atomic latch]

I believe it, gives more reason for NVIDIA to jack up prices and the current market situation just makes everyone desperate that they'll buy it anyway

[molten flame]

GDDR7 this early tho? Come on

GDDR6 at 24 Gbps isn't even out yet

[atomic latch]

That is true, though I thought GDDR6X was already capable of that?

[molten flame]

GDDR6 I'm talking about is actually called GDDR6+ and it uses a newer process than GDDR6 and is faster/more efficient than GDDR6X

I figured RDNA3 and LoveLace would use it

[prime jasper]

Cable management is important.

[humble iris]

Hmmm. just when everyone wants to switch from Windows to Linux. https://www.howtogeek.com/790435/new-dirty-pipe-linux-vulnerability-is-the-worst-in-years/

[pale quartz]

it doesnt

Lovelace's memory controller has been upgraded to support GDDR7 speed specifications, the first iteration from micron anyways, the actual cards do not use it though

[molten flame]

GDDR7 reportedly features a "real-time error protection feature", which should help GDDR7 memory maintain its high speeds while retaining module stability

[viral quest]

Fuck, that looks so cool

[prime jasper]

Yes. It is.

[strong breach]

Cable management really changes how things look

My old case had no room cables

[prime jasper]

Waiting on my Wireless KB then I will be set😀

[strong breach]

So much better now :)

[prime jasper]

Holy crap! That is awesome!

[strong breach]

I always cleaned all the fingerprints off from the cpu cooler

They drove me crazy

[prime jasper]

That cooler is MASSIVE!

[strong breach]

Lets not talk about how i installed the shroud upside down

I cant bother flipping it 180 degrees

And i never will flip it

[prime jasper]

HaHa. I didn't even notice. As long as it works for you and runs cool...so be it!

[strong breach]

Only difference is that the noctua text is upside down :D

[prime jasper]

Well if you stand on your head..it is NOT.

[strong breach]

Maybe i should flip my pc upside down

That'd solve the problem

[prime jasper]

But you have to make sure it is on some really thick carpet if you do that!

[strong breach]

Would be quite hard to turn it on though, would need to start it by connecting the the 2 pins with something in the motherboard

[quick locust]

https://www.pcgamer.com/asrock-is-making-an-nft-motherboard-and-its-as-chaotic-as-it-sounds/

[molten flame]

Microsoft working on a new Xbox codenamed "Keystone"

[molten flame]

Xbox handheld apparently

Dragon Crest APU, very similar to the Van Gogh APU in Steam Deck

What's crazy is that the AMD Van Gogh APU was originally ordered for a project by Microsoft a couple years ago but they dipped out and Valve gained interest in it and created the Steam Deck with it

Basically, Microsoft saw the popularity and hype built up for the Steam Deck and grew jealous now they gotta have their own

[limber oar]

i have a quick question im trying to play bf4 on my computerand when i open the game the mouse doesn't show up how can i fix that

[humble iris]

It's been so long since that happened, can't remember how to fix it. try repairing the game. In Origin, or EA Desktop game settings.

[limber oar]

okay thanks

[molten coral]

Disable origin overlay

That is the way to fix it

[limber oar]

ok thanks

[atomic latch]

Time for Sony to make their own move and revive PSP seriously tho, would love a handheld device from Sony. Playing Spider-Man PS4 on a handheld is the dream for me.

[idle dust]

what kind of math does one need for IT?

/ programming

[proper skiff]

i think up to calculus?

[proud trellis]

can someone tell me if this is normal because ATM my pc is laggy as fuck and constantly freezing and ive got no clue as to why, i open task manager to see if anything is happening and this is what is at the top and i dont think using that much of my CPU is normal

[molten flame]

"Antimalware"

Bitch you are the malware lmfao

[proud trellis]

its stupid

[pale quartz]

it is windows defender

it runs periodic scheduled scans, you can simply cancel it

[proud trellis]

ahh alr

[pliant fox]

Could you look at dms real quick?

Couldn’t send the picture in this chat

[supple bane]

here its high school equivalent maths

if you wanted a degree in comp sci that is

[pale quartz]

not a simple question

[idle dust]

:D

[pale quartz]

it depends where you're wanting to go for a career, if you're wanting to enter the very "tail end" of the developer sphere involving high degrees of specialisation, e.g. machine learning/data science, then a bachelor's degree in mathematics (as an equivalent) is what you'll need

any low level hardware forms of programming is also very maths focused and any algorithmic focused role, if it's just a broad sphere of software development, you'll need very little

[idle dust]

and on a hobbyist level?

[pale quartz]

see above

if you're wanting a degree in it though, most institutions follow the mathematic modules as 2 stages less than a BSc

hobbyist close to near 0, or 0

[vast valley]

🥵 I'm trying to get it cheaper

[supple bane]

motherboard will need a bios update fyi

[vast valley]

😩

[supple bane]

so youll need a ryzen 3000 chip on hand, if not it wont boot

[vast valley]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fcXNQ6

That's build 2

[toxic wigeon]

You can spend a tiny bit more on a b550.

[storm osprey]

bang for buck cheap https://pcpartpicker.com/list/92xQZw

[vast valley]

I want white aesthetics & some rgb.

[storm osprey]

boooooooooooooooo

[vast valley]

Yeah. I'm sorry. =[

[storm osprey]

im anti rgb man

its basically my super power, but im a villian

[vast valley]

I don't plan on going all out with rgb

[vast valley]

I definitely like the crispness of a white build. Looks futuristic as fuck to me.

Got enough fans? Lol

[storm osprey]

nah i could use more

[proud trellis]

give me some fans

i only have 2

[storm osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5

shits cheap

[supple bane]

you should paint all your shit in that vanta black stuff

then you will really be anti rgb

[storm osprey]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

[supple bane]

nyphons pc^

[storm osprey]

i kinda wanna paint the case now

[proud trellis]

world first invisible PC

[supple bane]

ltt have already done it

although they killed the pc cuz they tried to paint the mobo and did it wrong

even as an rgb man tho i can say it looked pretty dope

[vast valley]

I got my build a little bit cheaper now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MxHD2m

[proud trellis]

BTW isnt the AIO tubing supposed to go at the top and not the bottom ?

[toxic wigeon]

How long can the stock cooler last?

[proud trellis]

on nyphons pc

[supple bane]

the pump cant be the highest point in the loop

i probably would flip the rad if i was nyphon

[supple bane]

for all intents and purposes, forever

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I'm not gonna play any big games on my pc yet with that. I thought that it'd run louder but achieve the same results.

[storm osprey]

what matters is the highest point NOT being cooling plate

[supple bane]

@ nyphon

[proud trellis]

tf

[toxic wigeon]

Oh I can manually change the power can't I?

[proud trellis]

that looks weird

[supple bane]

dont worry about it

[toxic wigeon]

I didn't realise that the wraith cooler wasn't the best. I wasn't expecting much from it but thought it'd be alright.

Yeah I'm not gonna stress out about it.

[supple bane]

the cpu knows more about its self than you ever will,

so just let it do its thing and it will be fine

[storm osprey]

with this orientation the highest point would likely have a lot of gurgling

[toxic wigeon]

The 5600x is smarter than me.

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwA7ygTJn0

[vast valley]

I shouldn't need any thermal paste because it comes with it, right?

[supple bane]

most coolers do,

ive never seen a cooler not

[toxic wigeon]

That's actually kinda cool.

Wait so the fans themselves with the packaging come with the paste?

Applied or in a little capsule?

[supple bane]

depends on the cooler

iirc my cooler came with both

some already applied and a little baggie of spare paste

[toxic wigeon]

That's actually kinda cool.

[storm osprey]

@supple bane @proud trellis basically the highest point shouldnt be plate/pump, air will get trapped there. either end of the rad should be the highest point, but if you have tubes as the highest point the tubes will have air gaps and make gurgling noises

[supple bane]

you dont have to tell me :P

i know, but the pump IS the highest point for your build

[pale quartz]

they do, but the paste is pretty shit

[supple bane]

well actually i guess it depends where the pump is in that block, its kinda big

[pale quartz]

manual paste is always better over any preapplied kind

[supple bane]

on a 5600x it doesnt matter

[storm osprey]

blue is my radiator

[toxic wigeon]

Black.

If money was no object. Would you still do rgb?

[proud trellis]

the tubes go higher then both my pump and rad, should move them down a little

[supple bane]

if its not gurgling then its fine

mine gurgled a bit a while back under load, never bothered fixing it

[toxic wigeon]

If I had a clear vision. All white pc with light purple sticks and gpu.

[storm osprey]

as long as you dont hear any sloshing its fine

[proud trellis]

wait i think ive already pulled them down as far as i can anyway

[storm osprey]

my pc is dead silent, literally the only thing i hear is my psu fan

[proud trellis]

tf

see you probs have yours so quiet because of the 12 fans or however many you have

[supple bane]

todays episode is sponsored by seasonic

you could get one of those fan'less fellas

[storm osprey]

i think my psu is by superflower (its an evga)

and nah, i can really only hear my psu when gaming, which i normally have sound on and thats always louder than the psu

[supple bane]

my pc would be fairly quiet if it wasnt for my terrible gpu cooler

100% fan speed whilst gaming be like

[proud trellis]

is it bad that my PSU fan rattles like once every day when playing a game ?

cant you change cooler for a GPU or is not that simple lol ?

[supple bane]

you can, not really, sort of, no?

you used to be able to for sure

but its not a thing anymore really, other than custom watercooling

[proud trellis]

oh

[supple bane]

i dont know of any third party gpu coolers at least

[proud trellis]

i think it was ltt i watched and they full on just gave this GPU a whole new cooler but it was a few years old i think, not sure if it even was 100% ltt who did it

[proud trellis]

you and noctua fans

[supple bane]

ltt have strapped an nhd 15 as seen above to a gpu

but that is also a pain, and risky

[storm osprey]

i dont care for noctua... im an arctic fanboy

[proud trellis]

wow

[molten coral]

Honestly, no also would make the PC as small as possible.

[storm osprey]

ehh, when i can get 99% of the performance of noctua fans as long as i skip some 100 rpm range for 1/3 the price...

[proud trellis]

fair

[storm osprey]

even if i wanted to spend stupid money on fans, i would get phanteks t30

[proud trellis]

ngl i would try to get RGB fans

hehe

bit boring just having a blank box on your desk

[supple bane]

youre talking to a brick wall

[proud trellis]

lmao

[storm osprey]

the logical brick wall

[supple bane]

no brick wall is logical

[toxic wigeon]

What is your fan nyphon?

[storm osprey]

arctic p12/p14 (the number just indicates the size, 120mm and 140mm)

[storm osprey]

says the brick mouse user

[toxic wigeon]

Oh! I mean your cpu fan. But I'll look at those!

[proud trellis]

hereeeee we go again

nyphon if i ever see you later in life i will make you hold a G502

[storm osprey]

ahh, arctic liquid freezer II 240mm

[toxic wigeon]

Hold the g502 you heretic!

[storm osprey]

ive owned a g502 multiple times

[toxic wigeon]

How's the arctic freezer 34?

[supple bane]

its a good cooler

[storm osprey]

its decent, beat by id cooling for the price

[supple bane]

the duo version tho preferably

[storm osprey]

unless you get the arctic esports duo

[toxic wigeon]

Oh yeah the duo.

[vast valley]

I got it $20 cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTp4qm

[toxic wigeon]

How is that?

[supple bane]

its not too far from an nhd 15 actually

[storm osprey]

duo basically best for its price

[supple bane]

its really good for the price

just make sure your case is deep enough to fit it

[toxic wigeon]

80 dollars being almost half of the nh12 us that's amazing.

It's not a super thick fan is it? Fitting doesn't sound too much of a pain.

Oh that's a big boy.

[storm osprey]

cheapest to most expensive and best for that "price range"

id cooling (idk the model) > arctic esports duo > scythe fuma 2 > noctua nhd > arctic liquid freezer II (280m being best bang for buck).

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah liquid is a no go for me. I love seeing people replace their front fans with it for some reason.

[storm osprey]

you got a 5600x yea?

[toxic wigeon]

Yes.

[storm osprey]

esport duo or fuma 2 is what i would get, granted even the id cooling would be good enough

[toxic wigeon]

It's not some 5900 so it's not gonna get hot lol.

Yeah.

[supple bane]

tbh.... the stock cooler is enough

65w is literally nothing

my 2600 (same power draw) was fine on the stock cooler

[storm osprey]

yea, getting a cpu cooler would just be for better temps and quieter, though i dont recall if stock cooler for 5600x gets loud

[toxic wigeon]

Ye. Though I plan on putting it on heavier load so I want to get as much usage as I can out of it.

[supple bane]

is it the wraith stealth or spire you have?

[toxic wigeon]

Wraith.

[supple bane]

yeah which one :P

there are 3 styles

[toxic wigeon]

Oh.

Stealth.

I ordered the one with the wraith stealth, I didn't read what you said correctly.

[storm osprey]

pretty sure the clock speeds on stock cpu cooler gets dialed down a tiny bit

[toxic wigeon]

I'm not super stressed do note. I'm just running through options.

[supple bane]

if it was a spire or max i would have just said leave it

they 100% would have handled a 5600x

[storm osprey]

you dont NEED an aftermarket cooler, but it would have some benefits

[toxic wigeon]

It would help yeah.

When Im done paying off the mobo and that when everything's together, I'm gonna look at maybe adding a cpu fan if I need it.

[storm osprey]

easy to change cpu coolers

[toxic wigeon]

I'm just concerned that if I load it too hard it'll kill its life span... or is that dumb to worry about?

[supple bane]

no

[toxic wigeon]

Or heat it up too much,

Loading it's meant for that I just say load as in heat.

[supple bane]

still no

[toxic wigeon]

Ok.

[supple bane]

youll learn quickly that there is no chance of damage, i, everyone, is the same with their first pc

[pale quartz]

these aren't intel processors

[storm osprey]

your cpu will throttle itself if thermals are bad

[pale quartz]

stock coolers are absolutely fine on anything up to a 5800x

unless you intend on unlocking power limits.. which dont

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah nah I'm not looking at that.

[supple bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRfmNmnKYvs

watch this if you get chance

this is a gpu but the exact same applies

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I'll do so later. Thanks very much.

I'm finally at the end I'm so very glad I can get this done and over with.

Thanks for the help for all of this.

[vast valley]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GBxQZw !!

Got it under 1300

Woohoo

[proud trellis]

speak of the devil @storm osprey ltt posted this

[molten flame]

AMD FSR 2.0 update is based on temporal upscaling, which is considered a major upgrade to the spacial upscaling of current FSR 1.0, much better image quality

Still doesn't require AI

[marsh gull]

thats a very good combination

[slate bronze]

is 110 FPS on lowest graphics normal for that rig?

GPU: MSI RTX 3070 SUPRIM
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: Samsung EVO SSD
PSU: 850W

[humble iris]

What Resolution?

[slate bronze]

1920x1080

[humble iris]

yeah that seems low I would think around 120 at medium settings. Do you have ray tracing turned on?

ray tracing might hit the fps really hard.

[slate bronze]

nope

[humble iris]

fps limit turned on?

have you tried turning the settings up to medium and see what happens?

[prime jasper]

Welcome on 2042 lmao

[slate bronze]

?

[pliant fox]

I mounted my Geforce Rtx 3060TI but it’s hanging a bit, isn’t bad right?

[weak girder]

wdym hanging

[molten flame]

Threadripper 5995WX scores 110K in Passmark, first single CPU to ever break 100K

The second best CPU scores 88K

Which is a Zen 3 Epyc 64-core CPU

[eager sun]

gpu sag is quite normal if its really extreme/bothers you you can get something to support it

[stray crypt]

anyone ever have an issue where you whole pc freezes in the middle of a game?

[quick locust]

Can be several reasons

But yes

[stray crypt]

what was your fix?

im on page 3 of troubleshooting on google

[quick locust]

Depends entirely on cause

It's not very specific

[stray crypt]

Would you be able to tell me how you fixed it for your pc?

[quick locust]

Removed incompatible mods

Some were out of date

[stray crypt]

you mean drivers?

[quick locust]

No

[stray crypt]

cool thanks for the help

[marsh gull]

if its slighly drooping its fine if theres a big heavy cooler on it

just check once in a while to be sure

if it gets worst just put smth underneath

[trim root]

One day I will bring a proposal to EA that could yield them LOTS of $$$ and would be of much interest to BF gamers who like to compete with an opportunity to make $$$ themselves. Could be something to help the franchise as well since things have been grim lately. We'll see how it plays out. :)

[prime jasper]

Technology Trashday!

[toxic wigeon]

Legos.

[prime jasper]

Keycaps😂trash✌️

[idle dust]

I need those keycaps!

[idle dust]

do you have WASD and Ctrl? :D

[prime jasper]

Prob about 15 sets of WASD and Ctrl in there. lol

[idle dust]

can I have one of each?

just need to know the dimensions.

perhaps you could send me some pictures of them in DMs.

[prime jasper]

no, no, no

[idle dust]

okay. :(

[stuck tangle]

2019

[prime jasper]

Are automatic and semi-automatic shotguns still used in the military?

[marsh gull]

yes

[molten flame]

AMD becomes TSMC's second largest client with revenue share over 10% at the foundry as the switch from 7nm to 5nm is underway

Sounds like they are gonna pump out a lot of Zen 4 and RDNA3

[atomic latch]

Finally, cheaper prices for Ryzen 5000

[molten flame]

I hope they continue to use 7nm for a while for cheaper products, 6nm and 5nm are gonna be used for a long time

Nvidia and AMD gonna have to resort to using 4nm instead of 3nm in 2024

4nm is an enhancement to 5nm

[prime jasper]

Ah ok thanks for telling me

In the year 3000, would these following weapons still be used in the military: bolt action sniper rifle, pump action shotgun, and revolving grenade launcher?

[quick locust]

Who knows

Shotguns are not really used besides for breaching doors

[prime jasper]

Ah ok 👌

[prisma anvil]

xmp enabled?

[prisma anvil]

arctic freezer duo is awesome

It handled a 10700k 5ghz all core consuming 200+W in Cinebench R23 at mid 80C

highly highly recommend. They even have a combo on amazon with the intel LGA1700 standoff

Also my friend is building his PC with a 12700k and I got him a 3080 below msrp

build is gonna be insane

[bright ore]

Is there anyone that knows how to get rid of the tabsearch.net virus ?

[supple bane]

120c?!

[pale quartz]

asrock being asrock lol

[floral lodge]

Hey, every time i try to start a game in BFT V is just sut down, plz help

[sinful mantle]

does it go black screen or just disappear?

if it's black screen it's most likely a driver issue...either up-date or if you recently up-dated drivers resort back to older ones...if it just disappears it's likely a registry path corruption which is difficult to resolve unless you re-direct the path or a reinstall of windows

[molten flame]

Why the fuck is a 65W processor stressing these boards out

Intel being Intel

Oh locked i7-12700 can peak up to 190 watts

MSI is 100% the way to go for B660 motherboards, all of them will let the i7-12700 boost to max power limit

12900 as well

[quick locust]

Yep

[molten flame]

Not surprised that Gigabyte is ass

[quick locust]

less than asrock

[cursive ermine]

Is it worth it upgrading from i5 10400f to i7 11700kf??

[quick locust]

for how much

[cursive ermine]

For like 350$

[molten flame]

x86 going for higher power targets is just making ARM look better imo

[prisma anvil]

Nah

Save money for 12th gen

Jayztwocents is lol. He trying to run 6000 cl36 4*16 and wonder why it won't post at xmp🤣

Then calls out intel. 🤣 the dimm is rated at 2 not 4. Plus my friend 5600X cant even run 4*16 3600cl16 and I have to manually downclock it to 3600 CL18 and jayztwocents complain about intel ddr5🤣

Glad hardware unbox and buildzoid called him out

[idle rampart]

Quick question for anyone who uses GeForce game ready drivers: When they update the new version does is delete the previous update? Or does it keep on taking more memory?

[pale quartz]

definitely not lol, upgrade to a 12600/700k if you're wanting to get new parts

[pale quartz]

GRD updates do not "delete" the previous updates, rather they merge changes in

[idle rampart]

What about when the graphic card doesn’t display every now and then on the laptop? (Not got pic perms so can’t show)

[pale quartz]

has nothing to do with updates

hardware fault somewhere

[idle rampart]

Any idea how to fix it?

Can I dm?

[pale quartz]

no sorry, I have them turned off for this server

[quick locust]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-testing-ads-in-the-windows-11-file-explorer/

[molten flame]

Windows 11

[lunar gulch]

you need to run DDU to completely remove the drivers then install the new nvidia drivers. guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

[humble iris]

Another good reason to not use Windows 11

Intrusive garbage

[marsh gull]

im gonna stay with windows 10 for as long as i can

tbh

and also if i install win11 i gotta turn on secure boot which is gonna stop me from dual booting to linux

[humble iris]

XFX got busted selling used mining GPUs as new products.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chinese-customs-seize-5840-illegally-mislabeled-xfx-gpus

Spectre-v2 gonna kill CPU performance by up to 35% in some cases.

[molten flame]

XFX China has always done skeptical stuff tbh

[humble iris]

that's true, I almost bought an XFX 680i board in like 06, but waited a while and ended up with an EVGA 780i instead. I don't think I've ever owned anything from them that I can think of.

[molten flame]

Best XFX GPUs were R9 200/300 and RX 400 series, went downhill with RX 500 series

They made some decent PSUs too

[humble iris]

Their name sounds kool though.

[molten flame]

XFX RX 5700 XT THICC III

Sad there's no 6900 XT THICC series

[humble iris]

Anyone want free RTX 3090. Nvidia giving away free signed GPUs https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-gtc-free-signed-rtx-3090/

[molten flame]

AMD opens up Ryzen 5000 desktop CPU support on 1st gen X370, B350 & A320 motherboards

[kind bridge]

On Xbox One console is more worse now unplayable

[quick locust]

what

[dry pike]

No nvidia driver for like a month. Wonder if the hack is to blame.

[pale quartz]

nah

the hack is bad for pretty old GPU's, and well, any nvidia user in general

but it wont affect the cadence for releases

[quick locust]

time to use noveau driver

jk

[pale quartz]

maybe it wont be total trash for a change

[dry pike]

Considering their certificates got hacked and they might have to make extra sure their source code wasn't changed before release I wouldn't be so sure about that.

[pale quartz]

the certificates which were leaked were from 2015, they are not signed valid drivers that are used in the release candidate today

which is why it's a problem for older GPUs, the hack affects nothing about how Nvidia conducts updates

it's just a massive internal security violation to have all this information in one area

Nvidia only release WQL candidates when a new game is launching and besides elden ring there has no been major title which has launched that requires a driver revision

[dry pike]

I read that the 2 certificates were expired ones from 2011 to 2014 and 2015 to 2018 but since Windows accepts expired certificates it is still an issue. I imagine Windows might block the certificates but that requires people to update their Windows so they will still be used to sneak a bunch of malware onto computers.

[pale quartz]

it isn't a problem, it's only a problem for those who install drivers from third party sources

and only would it ever become a problem

[dry pike]

The certificates can be used by all kinds of third party downloaded software to sneak past Windows security.

Besides, don't underestimate the amount of people installing things willy nilly.

[molten flame]

AMD RSR is a driver based variant of FSR that is supposed to work with thousands of games when it comes available tomorrow

[pale quartz]

work with thousands of games

it actually works with any game

RSR is applied at the tail end of the render pipeline meaning it is entirely game agnostic

[molten flame]

Damn

I think as long as the game supports full screen lol

[pale quartz]

yeah its impossible to upscale borderless inputs, the hook has to inject into the exe

[molten flame]

Will RSR have FSR 2.0 features

AFAIK FSR 2.0 is a bit different in design but is still supported by all vendors

[prisma anvil]

https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-no-overclocking-for-ryzen-7-5800x3d-cpu-only-memory-fclk-overclock-enabled/

[quick locust]

yeah

not that they could oc much anyway

[molten flame]

3D stacked chips could probably crack really easily from thermal expansion

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ2x2JVCh1Q&ab_channel=Dave2D

[molten flame]

AMD could do so much better than Apple if they made a big APU

M1 Max or Ultra are not that impressive when you see that they are on a much denser node than the competition

Also despite using a denser node, their chips are still much larger than competition

M1 Max is 425mm^2, the Ultra is 2x that size

[quick locust]

they have a lot of accelerators

plus huge gpu

[molten flame]

Xbox Series X chip has a big GPU too and is a lot smaller

Plus on old 7nm

[quick locust]

yeah, but the one in ultra is huge

its most of the die

[molten flame]

Ultra is MCM

Two M1 Max fused together lol

[quick locust]

yeah

intel cpus and gpus will be soon as well

tiled gpus

they already have some

[molten flame]

Intel iGPUs will be able to boost performance of discrete Arc GPUs too

[quick locust]

big boi

https://twitter.com/TheMalcore/status/1504517981388349446

Evan Stenger (@TheMalcore)

B&H Already selling Intel ARC Graphics Laptop https://t.co/CbY7k9StEg

Twitter · Mar 17, 2022, 6:00 PM

[molten flame]

Only the low end Arc is coming first

A380M, A370M

[quick locust]

yes

im in the arc server

[molten flame]

2nd gen Arc in 2023 is gonna clap

4 tiles instead of 1

[quick locust]

im getting one for free

[molten flame]

Intel is probably gonna beat RTX 4090 with their 2nd generation lol

Arc GPUs are way less profitable than Alder-Lake CPUs

12900K is only 160mm^2 die space whereas top end Arc A700 is almost 400mm^2

[quick locust]

well

gpus are usually much bigger

[molten flame]

Also factor in the costs of all GPU components like VRAM, power delivery, cooler, etc.

[quick locust]

Yes

Then you realize how much high end cpus profit

:P

[molten flame]

Usually mid-range Intel CPUs share same dies as high-end

[quick locust]

yes

normal binning

same with gpus

[molten flame]

12600K, 12700K, 12900K are same silicon so they all have the same manufacturing cost, 12400 and below have a smaller cheaper die

[quick locust]

higher end ones are good profit

[molten flame]

5800X3D with its 3D die probably costs way more to make than a 5800X

50% more probably

The 12nm I/O die is dirt cheap but the 7nm CCD having to be thinned down to only like 10% of its original thickness, then 6nm cache chip on top of the CCD that costs just as much

[prime jasper]

Is there a break action double barrel shotgun shooting 8 rounds?

[molten flame]

Maybe if you pack-a-punch one

[prime jasper]

Hmm ok

[prime jasper]

If there had been a break action double barrel shotguns shooting more than 8 rounds, could it have been useful in the military?

[ancient fjord]

did you find out?

[lunar gulch]

has anyone tried running 2042 with proton/linux

and more importantly does the anti cheat work

so you can actually play

[pale quartz]

it does not

[humble iris]

Break action shotguns are single capacity. You manually load each round, although most will have auto ejection when breaking it open, but still manual loading each round. At least every one I own, or have ever owned.
Or did you mean Pump Action? If so then the problem is the magazine tube will longer then the barrel and cause issues.

[lunar gulch]

thanks!

[molten bramble]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/14/22978223/microsoft-directstorage-api-xbox-velocity-windows-pc-nvme-load-times

[humble iris]

Sounds like latency issue to me. But IDK.

[prime jasper]

Who likes keyboard cables?

is mx330 capable of running a game which requires gtx 960?

which is the minimum requirement

[prime jasper]

Ah ok thanks for the informations

[molten flame]

RTX 3090 Ti listed early for $3500

[mild bough]

Nope, why?

[pale quartz]

it's not possible to change access denied on task manager, in order to do so you need to reassign object ownership to your account to bypass SYSTEM restrictions

[pale quartz]

the problem right now for games loading assets is they are built around hard drive level run-time streaming, meaning SSDs aren't being utilised to anywhere of their maximum throughput for asynchronous streaming, DS fixes this problem

assets will be able to be loaded near instantaneously, similar to how the next gen consoles currently use kraken

hard drives are a bygone era anyways and the fact modern games are still built around them is a joke

[molten flame]

To me, a developer that can make a game load very fast on an old HDD or even an SD card is nothing short of pure talent

Witcher 3 load times on HDD are impressive

I hope HDD or SATA SSDs don't become useless for gaming anytime soon

[mild bough]

Yeah it was an old issue when I tried to fix low FPS on Star Citizen. Just found it weird that I wasn't able to change it considering how I could change it before.

[pale quartz]

games assign their own priority for scheduling, tampering with it will break some things, but if you really want to process lasso can do it for you

[pale quartz]

HDDs will finally not work with direct storage

SATA SSDs will be fine

well "fine", until their bandwidth becomes a problem and NVMes only work

[ancient fjord]

@pale quartz i tried process lasso, that doesnt work either. I have super low FPS on 2042 so i wanted to change priority level.

[storm osprey]

seems vram is hardly a concern at 4k

[molten flame]

Well that's because 3070 has higher memory bandwidth too

3070 is comparable to 6900XT in memory bandwidth lol

You can also see the biased games here

Far Cry 6 is AMD optimized game

Metro Exodus and Fortnite are Nvidia optimized

[quick locust]

metro exodus enhanced is RT only

where rdna2 does worse

[pale quartz]

what processor have you got?

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhP1al3Ur4&ab_channel=MarquesBrownlee

[junior crane]

A framework that would apply to all major platforms;
The exclusion of private and encrypted communications and telecommunications services;
Accessible and easy-to-use flagging mechanisms and clear appeal processes for users;
The need for platform transparency and accountability requirements;
The creation of new regulatory machinery to administer and enforce the regime;
Ensuring that the regulatory scheme protects Canadians from real-world violence emanating from the online space; and
The need for appropriate enforcement tools to address platform non-compliance.

[pale quartz]

cool story

[prime jasper]

This cable improved my BF gameplay!

[void saffron]

Can anyone recommend a decent head set for roughly $50?

[proud trellis]

headset as in the mic and the headphones together ? or just headphones ?

[prime jasper]

Do you need a headset with a mic?

[floral ermine]

in america, my friend bought a hyperX headset and usb condensor mic for 60 dollars and its super good

[fallen harbor]

Is it possible to record my screen with OBS without having a GPU? I removed my gpu from my pc but I still want to record some non-videogames like my drawing process and stuff but it says I dont have the required hardware to record (I have an i5 8400)

if not, is there any other software taht would allow me to?

[molten bramble]

No.

[fallen harbor]

yikes

okie

[humble iris]

Do you have a sound card? If you have a sound card the best cheap headset (1/8") (3.5MM) jack (Not USB) is the Sound Blaster Blaze. Sounds great but won't sound good on cheap onboard audio.

Oh and are like $25 - $30

[humble iris]

Yes you can for sure. I do this with old hardware like E5300, i7-920, i5-3470s, etc.. no issue. i5-8400 should not be an issue.

I have even recorded nintendo games input with cheap usb capture card to a PC with no PCIe slot using i5-3470s

[fallen harbor]

what software do you use?

[humble iris]

OBS

Intel has a thing called QuickSync you can also use in OBS

[fallen harbor]

o

what does that do?

[humble iris]

as the encoder

[fallen harbor]

oic

tyvm

love you

[humble iris]

give it a try it won't hurt to test anyway as OBS is a free open source software which can be supported through Patreon

[humble iris]

if its vesa you can

looks to be yes, but just check that both are vesa certified are compatible

basically its the 4 hole pattern that needs to match,

[marsh gull]

i have it and it has a vesa mount dw

its a good monitor too

decent colors

i have the 1080p 27 inch one and tbh imo 1080p isnt too bad on 27 inch

yeah thats a good idea

lol

i use the monirotr at 40% brightness and it still has decent colors

[humble flume]

i have an unknown error code 1 on bf 4 can anyone help?

[fallen harbor]

what could this sound be caused by?

[sinful mantle]

sounds like a loose audio jack

[sinful mantle]

or it's not grounded properly

[pale quartz]

loose connector cables, it's vibrating against the motherboard

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/LastEchoMiri/status/1505302661897371659?s=20&t=XGuGObzeOjdAhTf0dwA77A

Miri is Very Weird (@LastEchoMiri)

I want to join this gym but I’m afraid I won’t know how to leave.

Likes

5059

Retweets

567

Twitter · Mar 19, 2022, 9:58 PM

[molten coral]

Lol

[plush spear]

Im lagging alot on bf2042 and i got the game today. im maining it on 20 to 30 fps and i wanna go to 60 fps or above. please help
Graphics card:
Device name DESKTOP-JND9S9F
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz
Installed RAM 8,00 GB
Device ID 9761820F-7E13-488F-B416-2AE01CBA000A
Product ID 00325-80169-77394-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch Touch support with 9 touch points

GTX 1060 6GB

[neon current]

2042 seems to be more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, so really it’s going to be hard to get double the performance. You could try lowering all the settings to the minimum and see if it helps

[plush spear]

ive done that. didnt help.

[neon current]

Unless you start replacing parts, most of your performance will be in the low end of you don’t notice any significant change in lowering your settings

[plush spear]

Is there anything i can do except replacing parts i cant afford that

[neon current]

If you can’t afford that I’d start taking off other settings

Motion blur

[plush spear]

yes motion blur is at 0

[neon current]

Then I’d probably search some forums that ask how you can raise performance

Even a quick google search

[plush spear]

ive done that some of them seem sketchy.

[neon current]

Well

[plush spear]

is your dms on_

i want to send a photo

[neon current]

Sure

[plush spear]

did you see

[molten flame]

2042 is a bit stressful on the i5-8400, 6 cores but it lacks hyperthreading so only 6 threads instead of 12

That CPU is even limiting in BFV

Also 8GB ram isn't enough

And I'm gonna take a guess that it's single channel too

[plush spear]

oh

[pale quartz]

weak CPU and weak GPU with minimal RAM, nothing you can do

[plush spear]

theres nothing i can do?

so i just wasted my money basically

[molten flame]

Both Battlefield 2042 and V are just too intensive on CPU and RAM

If you have just 1 stick of 8GB RAM then you need to get another 8GB stick with similar specifications

RAM upgrade is really the only thing you should try

[molten phoenix]

Ok got a qucik performance question, Are there optomizers you can download for A game like bf4 or bf1, trying to run it on a laptop, and It runs ok If you have the graphics down so far you litirly can't play it

I saw something about graphics mods that made bf5 look cartoony and all, but the people were using them to increace invisability, so kinda cheating

but It made me wonder If they made things like that to increace performance,

[pale quartz]

nope

[molten phoenix]

ok thanks

[slim ingot]

did they fix frame rate yet

[molten phoenix]

Would ask for performance tips, but I have watched so many vids Its hardly worth it

[silk storm]

Its the amount of players. If i play 64 players, its a world of difference compared to 128 players in terms of frames.

[weak girder]

add 8 gigs of ram

also, u cant download anthing or do anything thats gonna magically improve your performance except changing parts

optimizers on the internet are a load of bullshit

[marsh gull]

your cpu ain't good enouph and your gpu will barely run the game (i used to have a 1650 super which is slightly more powerful and it barely ran the game at 60fps)

[marsh gull]

dont play 2042

its shit anyways

play like bf5 or bf1 if you want a relatively recent bf game tbh

your pc aint that bad but 2042 is just a uniquely demanding game

[toxic wigeon]

Probably best to play something least resource intensive for a bit until better parts can be found.

[marsh gull]

yeah

[toxic wigeon]

Am5 is coming up but fuck buying ddr5.

[marsh gull]

overpriced and not exactly future-proof for now anyways

[toxic wigeon]

I fear it's gonna be like that for a while.

But yeah as the technologies develop after this gen I feel people are gonna make the big upgrade then.

[molten flame]

DDR5 is around $9-10 per GB atm depending on speeds but it could be $6-7/GB by end of year

[prime jasper]

Is the 12600k with a 3080 a good combo for gaming.

[weak girder]

ofc lol

[humble iris]

Try lowering the resolution to like 720p or something

[humble iris]

Try lower resolution

My kid plays at 1280x1024 with a 9600k/1050TI/16GB 2666 on most of his games and gets good enough frame rate. Have not tested 2042 though.. But just a suggestion to try out.

I may try out a 1650 super on a X58/920 just to see what it's like..

.
Lowering the resolution and might be able to raise the graphics a bit, might be necessary even. I would do some testing

[prime jasper]

Your kid needs a upgrade.

[humble iris]

Nah, won't be supporting the current state of the tech economy

[prime jasper]

Oh, Well get used to the prices..they are here to stay.

[toxic wigeon]

Gpu prices are starting to lower but yeah things aren't looking so hot now.

Not even gpu, the demand for computers has increased dramatically.

[prime jasper]

Yep. I wasn't going to upgrade, and I waited for over a year and finally said screw it. If ya got it, spend it. You can't take it with you when you die. lol

[humble iris]

Not me been doing for so many years, there really is no need to upgrade if everything is working fine.

[prime jasper]

Same here. I have upgraded EVERY generation cpu/gpu since my 3930k/GTX 580 Ultra Classified Days...this setup will be good for another 6 months at least (12600k/3080)

[humble iris]

6 months. Why?

I usually get 6-8 years

[prime jasper]

6-8 years? Thats crazy. With this generation I am going to keep it for a while. Might have to upgrade my GPU one more time though, once I get my 49" UW.

[humble iris]

I usually get a pretty futureproof platform and upgrade some parts, like GPU if necessary, I recently upgraded my CPU to a 6950X with 20 threads and nothing is gimping it. getting over 100 FPS in 2042. I was wanting to get Intel's next HEDT if there is one. But with the condition of t he market I may just keep it longer. So I really can't say my PC is 7 or 8 years old at this point as I have some upgrades over those years. like a 2080 in Jan 2019, and since then some NVMe's, and recently the 6950X but even the CPU is from 2016, but it does not struggle in anything, neither did the 5930k, but I wanted the extra cores.

I think lately my hobby has been seeing how long I can keep my current PC without building a new one.

I probably will upgrading Guitar equipment next, and get an Axe-FX III MKII, or something which is basically a computer as well.

[prime jasper]

Good moves!

[toxic wigeon]

Respect.

[humble iris]

What movies you watching

[digital tundra]

I didn't even know there was a 6950x

[quick locust]

It's pretty old

[plush spear]

does nothing ive tried itl.

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-launches-milan-x-with-3d-v-cache-epyc-7773x-with-768mb-l3-cache-for-dollar8800

$8800 for new Epyc 7773X, $900 more than previous Epyc 7763

Not a big increase tbh

16-core model has 768MB L3 cache same amount as the 64-core lmao

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGM6FcLDckk&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[prime jasper]

I heard you like RGB...

[prime jasper]

Logitech Wireless is the king!

[humble iris]

why?

[prime jasper]

Because it is wireless😀 2.4Ghz. Lightspeed. Faster than light!

[humble iris]

is that the G915?

[prime jasper]

Yes. Along with G703/G Pro X Wireless.

[humble iris]

I have the same keyboard only wired G815, I threw my 703 in the trash left click was not working half the time. Keyboard is great

[prime jasper]

Weird 703 issue. Had mine since initial release...zero issues ever.

[humble iris]

yeah was probably a defect, after throwing away I Iooked in my best buy account and had an extended warranty I purchased for 2 years. I was pissed at myself

Corsair Dark Void is what I have now, I like it

I had the G700s before that, it was the best. I wore it out over several years

[prime jasper]

How is the dark void? I have a problem where I like to match my peripherials...same brand

[humble iris]

I used to be like that, but now just whatever works, I've no problems with it. over a year or so. Logitech was always my go to for mice for like 20 years. But prices are getting outrageous.

I even tried out the G502 I hated it, and returned it.

[quick locust]

If you have a physical store nearby, try out a few

[molten flame]

G502 too narrow

Especially for me with frying pan hands

My hands even make the Xbox Duke controller look small

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-big-arm-strong-arm-gif-10230734

[molten flame]

Nvidia Hopper H100 GPU is on TSMC's 4nm process using HBM3, still slower than the AMD Mi250X based on TSMC 6nm and older HBM2e

Nvidia on a much denser node but still loses in double precision, but they still lead in AI which is their strongest market

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-unveils-144-core-grace-cpu-superchip-claims-arm-chip-15x-faster-than-amds-epyc-rome

[jaunty osprey]

Any tips to get 2042 to run better than 45fps on my msi laptop with a 10th gen i7 and mobile 3060?

[quick locust]

Lower settings and resolution

and try 64 player modes

Not much else you can do

[pale quartz]

laptops are not desktop equivalents in terms of hardware, that 10th gen and mobile 3060 is effectively a 2060, and a 9th gen processor, its not equipped to handle 2042 well

[plush spear]

Anyone know how i can get more fps than 20 to 30?
my specs

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz
Installed RAM 8,00 GB
Device ID 9761820F-7E13-488F-B416-2AE01CBA000A
Product ID 00325-80169-77394-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

[quick locust]

which gpu

Doesn't seem good though

[plush spear]

how do i check my gpu?

[digital tundra]

Probably intel hd graphics

[pale quartz]

you asked this already

[plush spear]

ik

[pale quartz]

..

[plush spear]

idk if anyone answered

asked again

[pale quartz]

they did, quite a lot

[plush spear]

can u ping me in the answers plz

[quick locust]

[lunar gulch]

20-42fps

[pale quartz]

no we arent going to ping you in answers

its not our responsibility for you to check things lol

[plush spear]

ok.. sorry for asking

[molten coral]

He has a 1060

[storm osprey]

could just ask for pings in your original question, not a big deal either way

[coarse nimbus]

I guess to be a regular chatter in this channel you either have to massively over compensate with flex posts about all your tech, or be a massive twat 90% of the time

[humble iris]

I wonder also do you reach a level and stay there, or is there some activity required to keep that role?

I was thinking that a mod would actually promote manually or something, otherwise like Bmac said just a mass posting

[storm osprey]

!!regular

[silent oasis]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[humble iris]

What is the criteria to reach that role? if you don't mind me asking.

Sorry Nyphon I quoted the bot

[storm osprey]

ive not been told specifics, i think the point is to be vague so people dont try to spam/abuse the system to get/keep the role

[humble iris]

Right, that makes sense.

Thanks

[storm osprey]

it just sucks when long time regulars lose the role because they dont chat as much anymore, especially with how toxic this community is with 2042

[humble iris]

Ohh so you do have to meet certain criteria to hold the role then?

[storm osprey]

iirc yea, like have X amount of messages in Y amount of time to keep the role

[flint locust]

We do not disclose the exact criteria to earn the role. Mass posting however will not work. Just chat on a regular basis and you'll earn it no problem. We're also looking into adjusting the amount of points to earn it (points are entirely internal, so no you can't view it)

[humble iris]

thanks

[weak girder]

it can run games from 2020 and before quite well, but it isnt future proof at all

any games u wanna run that came out in this year will run very poorly

it could on lower settings ig

it wouldnt be a slideshow thats for sure

but it isnt future proof at all

[sinful mantle]

BF3 and BF4 at ultra...BFV at high...BF 2042 you fall short

lower setting might bottleneck your processor...putting too my work on it

let your 1060 carry the load

[weak girder]

who wants to play 2042 anyways

[atomic latch]

[sinful mantle]

i have a whopping 5 hours playing it...most of that time was fucking with my settings

no like SEB said games before 2020 will run like silk on your machine

oh you mean 2042?...yeah it's terrible

and a sudden departure from the classic BF interface

i get 35 frames no matter how I set it

i have a machine similar to your specs

they changes the interface to this specialist crap...with robo dogs and other apex type gamestyle

[atomic latch]

The internet is a mob mentality. This discord will most likely convince you its good, everywhere else will try to convince you its bad. My suggestion? Buy EA Play and test it out yourself.

[sinful mantle]

the negative feedback isnt hype at all like the bogus BFV negative talk

i still cant understand why BFV was so down rapped

[atomic latch]

First impressions matter, and BFV's first impression really broke the game imho. DICE's actions after that didn't help either

[sinful mantle]

exactly every BF game since bf42 had the same interface...this one was totally removed from the francise

[sinful mantle]

well its still going strong

its just a fun game not as complex as BF4 which imo is the crown of dices creation

hell no it aint dead...it had and still has a higher player count than any other BF game

still is brother

your machine runs it on high

[atomic latch]

It's mostly because of Asians

[sinful mantle]

dig this Polk....BF4 was selling for $10 now it's back to $40

it's that popular

yeah premium was selling for like $9.99 for the better part of a year

[weak girder]

terrible terrible map design
specialist cannot work in a game like bf
gunplay is very off
graphics are shit
runs terribly

[sinful mantle]

i hope the hell EA learned something

[weak girder]

the map design was the worst part for me

[sinful mantle]

they should have been satisfied with the 7 million player base

they were shooting for a game for the masses...alienating their loyal fan base

[weak girder]

bf players would have gladly accepted some sort of bf4 2.0 with just new maps, updated graphics and gunplay but still the same vibe/core gameplay

[sinful mantle]

it broke my heart...i thought after 20 years of BF games they would make a masterpiece and with 128 player count too...like they seemed to be upping the game...but nooooo

[atomic latch]

BF peaked at BF1 imho, at least marketing wise. It almost became mainstream a la COD with even non-gamers talking about it.

[weak girder]

yup

bf5 is good but suffered from horrible marketing and a shitty launch

[sinful mantle]

personally I'll take BFV over BF1

[weak girder]

idk

I like both for different reasons

bf1 for the vibe and atmosphere and bf5 because the guns feel great

[sinful mantle]

so for me it's BF3/BF4/and BFV...and Ive been playing BF games from day one hour one

[weak girder]

bf3 and bf4 are sick

[sinful mantle]

crazy crazy yepper

[weak girder]

each bf game was good in its own way before 2042

2042 is worse than a cod game Im ngl

[sinful mantle]

pearl market and bazaar

[weak girder]

Id play black ops 4 over 2042

[sinful mantle]

you said it brother

[weak girder]

I had 1h 30 just so I could refund with a lot of it fixing my settings or running around in them boring empty maps

[sinful mantle]

bf2042 will sit with BFhardline in the cloud

[weak girder]

worse

2042 was a lot more hyped than hardline

[sinful mantle]

i mean ill never reinstall them both

[weak girder]

and also ended up worse

[sinful mantle]

agree

[weak girder]

I bought doom eternal after refunding 2042

much better purchase

it would be a shitshow tbh

too many players for the maps

[sinful mantle]

indeed if they woulda re-coded bf4 for 128 players and expanded in size the original maps with maybe 8 new maps I'd of paid $60 for that

[weak girder]

also extreme fps issues

[weak girder]

thats what we wanted for 2042 tbh

trailer 2042 looked sick

[sinful mantle]

you know when they fuckin first mentioned specialists...my stomach ached

[humble iris]

Everyone watched a youtube video about 2042, and got woke and triggered

[weak girder]

or maybe... we played the game and disliked it

[atomic latch]

I was actually excited because the specialist system in Modern Warfare was great and I thought they were just gonna copy that

[weak girder]

ye but what works in modern warfare doesnt work for battlefield

YESSSS

fax

[sinful mantle]

right thats the rub...they copied someone elses game and not led with a proven formula

[atomic latch]

Yeah in hindsight, Classes were already battlefield's 'specialist'

[weak girder]

the problem is that specialists made teamwork useless too

[sinful mantle]

ha yeah you'da thought they would have spent the time to make faction specific specialist features

now its boris and his obnoxious voice everywhere

[weak girder]

hahaha

[atomic latch]

Also, and ironically, the specialist system reduced the freedom for players. Remember back then when engineers could both be anti-tank soldiers AND repairmen? In 2042 you can only be one of the two.

[sinful mantle]

yep yep

so basically they made a childrens battlefield...am I right?

[weak girder]

yeep

but its a very stupid marketing decision to remove what works in your games...

[sinful mantle]

indeed

again I reiterate EA I hope you learned something...dont alienate your loyal player base

[weak girder]

they prolly didnt tbh

but its amazing how much 2042 failed

[sinful mantle]

yeah I have read from a supposed press release that all new BF games will originate from Portal

[weak girder]

they trully made a bad game in every sense of the word

its a pretty difficult accomplishment

its easy to make a boring game but a truly shitty game... wow

[sinful mantle]

and to think BF42 was the first PC game that made a profit for EA all their monies came from sports console games

you'd think that they would be satisfied with 5-10 million sales

for most BF games

[weak girder]

whats funny is they thought we'd enjoy it

[sinful mantle]

actually to be an ass..ill just say i dont think they gave a damn about us I think they thought we'd just go along with it

and they probably on the coattail of their Apex success thought they'd get those kiddies to come along

well ive been a loyal fan for 20 years, Ill stick around with them and play the 3 BF games I enjoy until they come to their senses...im not moving over to CoD anytime soon

[weak girder]

COD is long gone

[sinful mantle]

man I haven't played CoD since maybe 2007

ive been one loyal BF fanboy

[humble iris]

Honestly the more I play the more I find wrong

[prime jasper]

CoD Vannyguard sucks

Don't buy it

Also what's going on

[silk storm]

CoD MW (2019) was actually good. Cold War was less but decent enough, Vanguard is a joke. MW2 comes this year probably, since its Infinity ward's turn again. Could be the finisher of 2042 if they dont get things done on time

[silk storm]

Bf2042 is pretty okay right now. Hits are waay better now, performance got better, there is bit more destruction now with more to come. Still needs fine tuning here and there, for a smoother experience. The roles are also better used, the operators are much more enjoyed: people revive lot more, throw more ammo, throw other useful things like med box. Only improvent i can think of is when you ask for supplies, the doc gets a quick button like bf5 to throw a med pack quick and see a icon above your head that you are in need.

Other improvement that should fix the game would be: nerf the amount of vehicles in game at same time + respawn of vehicles. Make the amount of rockets vs infantry LOT less so they cant spray the area with lots of rockets. Add huge cooldown to anti rocket measure.

[weak girder]

fam

maps are shit

operators are shit

gameplay is shit

theres no saving it if the base game is bad

and there are no players

[silk storm]

Operators are fine if the roles are used. Maps should be more filled and have more tactical gameplay to defend/advance more tactical instead of d-day style. Gameplay needs to be more smooth.

But think of ffxiv and no man sky

Both shit games at launch, fixed, ffxiv is now number 2 mmo

It could be fixed, if they dont give up like bf5. No russia added was a slap in the face in bf5

[quick locust]

Why this in technology chat

[lunar gulch]

NO AIMBOTS. exactly. GGclose

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2oZHGe3G0&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

[quick locust]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-introduces-new-atx-psu-specifications.html

[prime jasper]

[storm osprey]

my heart

[proud trellis]

[storm osprey]

have you done this ice?

[molten flame]

[storm osprey]

i feel like he has

[proud trellis]

my pc is prebuilt so i havent done anything

[midnight crypt]

ive done that but the ssd didn't get bent like that

[molten bramble]

https://kotaku.com/microsoft-ubisoft-nvidia-hack-hackers-hacked-lapsus-te-1848694913 It's Kotaku, so take it with a grain of salt, but wow. That's a pretty big problem for some industry heavy-weights.

[toxic wigeon]

Hey big question.
Are Drivers from the main NVIDIA website safe?

[molten bramble]

Unknown, but considering they're reviewed prior to publishing, probably.

[humble iris]

LOL @ that NVMe.

[molten flame]

Highly doubt that current and future Nvidia drivers are at risk

[humble iris]

I think everything is at risk always.

[molten flame]

True anything connected to the internet is at some kind of risk

[toxic wigeon]

So uh. Is it normal for computers nowadays to not be able to connect wirelessly as soon as they're made?

[humble iris]

Yes

I actually prefer a Wireless-less PC

[toxic wigeon]

Do you have to download a driver?

[humble iris]

Do you mean you have a PC with WI-FI, and doesn't work?

[molten flame]

@toxic wigeon does your motherboard have built-in Wi-Fi?

[humble iris]

Yup I remember when Intel was going to make a GPU like 10-12 years ago, and Nvidia Threatened to start make CPUs, they did in fact make chipset boards, looks like they are making CPUs now. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-unveils-144-core-grace-cpu-superchip-claims-arm-chip-15x-faster-than-amds-epyc-rome

[molten flame]

144 cores to beat a 128-core setup from 3 years ago

Power consumption not too far off either lol

[humble iris]

That impressive for a 1st CPU

[toxic wigeon]

B550 A pro?

I better not have fucked that up.

[molten flame]

No wifi on that board

[toxic wigeon]

Oh no.

[humble iris]

I don't see wi-fi, but you can add it with an M.2

[toxic wigeon]

Goddammit.

With what?

[humble iris]

I'm looking

[molten flame]

Or get a PCIe slot wifi card

[humble iris]

Yeah which is the same thing actually

some boards have a dedicated wi-fi slot

[toxic wigeon]

How is that not standard???

Why is wifi not standard?

FUCK.

[humble iris]

Some have it, but on boards people like to have options, not forced costs

[molten flame]

Like 80% of all motherboards in DIY market don't have Wi-Fi built-in

PC gamers are typically expected to use ethernet lol

[humble iris]

easy and cheap to add it, or even USB which I would not use

[toxic wigeon]

Hmm.

Yeah I guess that makes sense.

[humble iris]

Yep, what KrisPea said ^

[molten flame]

I had a good USB wifi adapter before but many of them are trash

[toxic wigeon]

I've got some weird ASUS Antenna I could use as an alternative lol.

[humble iris]

it's hard to find a good one, and USB isnt ideal

[toxic wigeon]

That's just disheartening.

Did some research. Minor scuffle.

[molten flame]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/23/22993152/amd-fsr-2-0-xbox-nvidia-gpus

AMD has apparantly figured out how to eliminate ghosting entirely on FSR 2.0, which is something even DLSS hasn't been able to fully accomplish yet.

[toxic wigeon]

Any good PCIE Express cards?

[proud quiver]

does anyone know why BF1 runs at 150 fps on ultra in dx11, but swapping to dx12 gets me barely 40 fps on low settings

it just kinda seems wacky

[molten flame]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09LYTKK14/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams

This is a fast boi

Up to 5400 Mbps

AX210 and WiFi-6E

[toxic wigeon]

Bluetooth AND Wifi?

[molten flame]

Ye

[atomic latch]

Is FSR 2.0 already released?

[toxic wigeon]

It feels like I could remove the PCIE card from my old one and place it in here.

[molten flame]

Bluetooth 5.2

[toxic wigeon]

Would be good for my earphones.

How do you check what PCIE is in your computer?