technology

[humble iris]

lol

I've been using AIOs for 12 years now, no leaks yet.

[supple bane]

Ive never heard of one leaking

[atomic jackal]

well im quite happy with mine so i dont have any problems rn

[atomic jackal]

well cheap ones do leak but yeah this one is not the case

[supple bane]

Doubt it

Its a sealed unit.

Unless its damaged, chances are negligable

[humble iris]

Air cooler were getting to big, and causeing motherboards to taco, the last big air cooler I bought (Personal Rigs) was a Zalman 9900, back then they were solid copper, no crappy aluminum like today. I still use like 212 evo coolers for client builds though.

[atomic jackal]

client builds? you own a shop or something?

[supple bane]

New air cooler tech is popping up.. but coolers are one of those things that progress at a snails pace

I forgot the name of the example i was gonna use now

Ice giant. Feels like the only real revalation in are cooling in years

[humble iris]

this was the best one I ever used. https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/X58-SLI-Zalman-9900-cnps.JPG

all solid copper, no aluminum

[supple bane]

Shame there is no way to see how that compares to modern cpus

Im not familar with cpus of that era but im guessing they didnt draw much

[humble iris]

Yeah, well... I did purchase one for a 6600k build, but they changed the cooler dramatically using the same part number, the new one is piece of garbage. if you could find an original from 2009 it would be nice, but I will say I replaced that with an H50 which performed much better. My little brother may have still that one, but we don't talk anymore soo... I will never know.

here's the newer version, pic is a bit blurry. https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/zalman-9900-new.JPG

[atomic jackal]

gtx280? damn you must be old

[sacred dove]

the first gpu i bought was a Radeon 9200 SE

[humble iris]

285 FTW actually, but I'm not old, I'm only 49

[atomic jackal]

yeah i didnt mean that kind of old, most people here are around 16-25 you see, it's always nice to see older people be gamers

[humble iris]

Kool, yeah my generation created the technology to make games. The first video game was created when I was 7 or 8 years old.

actually i'm wrong is created a month before I was born

[atomic jackal]

yeah i was going to say "damn you witnessed it all huh"

so how did you get into computers

[humble iris]

Damn pong was created in 1972

I started playing ATARI in the early 80's, I got a Commodore 64 in like 1985 I think, I ended up trading it for a skateboard to my friend, He traded it for a Tandy something that talked to you, so I was like WHOA! then pretty much everything started to utilize computers at that point, I was intrigued by it.

I really got in to more in the late 90's by 1998 I was using PC to record my guitar, as I was using a 4-track cassette recorder before that

Then by 99 I was building websites, and created voice chat apps, by 2003/4 I had developed a Video Chat app.

I owned Eweb7.com until the Chinese stole my Domain hacked into my registrar and set it to not renew, I first registered it in 1999. I had a site called CamzX.com which is something else now. I don't own them anymore

[delicate solar]

Technology is used for many things some are good and some bad

[humble iris]

Has anyone tried cleaning motherboards and GPUs etc.. with WD-40 contact cleaner?

There is a guy on Youtube that liberally sprays down hardware with a product called Australian Export Multi-Purpose Spray and lets it dry. I'm thinking the WD-40 Contact Cleaner is similar to this.

[lofty light]

Those new GN vids have me salivating over the valve steamdeck

[humble iris]

Yeah it's pretty kool, but I already have a Nintendo Switch

I would never play games on a hand held anyway

It's just not PC gaming.

[toxic wigeon]

Case and psu came in. Now for the rest!

[prime jasper]

Hurray!

[humble iris]

Nice!

[lofty light]

I just want to play Destiny 2 when I'm away from home honestly

And it'll be a while before they allow games with battleye to work with the steamdeck

[quick locust]

There were games before that

Sure not as widespread as pong

It's not the first game

[lunar dawn]

or you could stream pc games from your pc to your phone

like what steam play does

used it a couple of times and its pretty cool

[humble iris]

really, i did not know there were video games before that.

[humble iris]

I can barely read my text messages. lol..

I hate cell phones

[quick locust]

since late 40s but they were experimental and not widespread

didnt become before the first console arrived, the Odyssey

So you were born when they become widespread but not when they were begun

[humble iris]

Well I know there were electronic games, but actual video games?

[quick locust]

yes

just primitive

[humble iris]

oscilloscope

[quick locust]

yeah

[humble iris]

okay I agree.

[quick locust]

20 years before Pong so a bit of a precursor

as if Pong wasnt primitive enough 😛

and this is earliest, 1947

[humble iris]

We even had these weird electronic handheld mechanical games in the 70's, they were like LEDs on mechanics. You feel the vibrations from it. I remember Bowling very specifically

We had these types of games available before Atari & ColecoVision https://www.pinterest.com/pin/91197961178877614/

[humble iris]

I like that stuff, that's very interesting

[quick locust]

Yeah, old wwii era radar equipment

hence why it could not be widespread since it didnt have consumer hardware

before arcades and consoles

[humble iris]

And not to mention the cost not affordable to an average person

[quick locust]

yeah

[humble iris]

A lot of prototype stuff

[quick locust]

then atari copied one of Magnavox ping pong games

and called it Pong

they got sued but settled

Magnavox Odyssey was first consumer platform that most people could buy

in 1972

[humble iris]

I remember VR from the early 90's people think it's new. I guess it was out even in the 70's

[quick locust]

its just when it tries becoming mainstream

though nintendo failed pretty hard on that

[humble iris]

Yeah it came and went, then came back

[quick locust]

virtual boy flopped pretty hard

yeah it's decent now

[humble iris]

They VR games at the state fair in the 90's was very pricy so I never did it, in fact I was kind of scared of it. the bungy cord setup and all, like in the movie Lawn Mower Man

you would spin around on that gyro, I was like F that man

[quick locust]

lol

i tried VR on a rollercoaster

pretty fun

ultimate motion sickness test, but i very rarely get motion sickness

[humble iris]

Ohh yeah we did cinema like VR, more like a 3D movie, it moved, that was kool

like a simulator

[humble iris]

I won't get sick, but I might pass out.

[quick locust]

lol

[supple bane]

Im gifted with a complete lack of motion sickness

[quick locust]

Same pretty much

[toxic wigeon]

Hey what's the difference between Corsair vengeance and Kingston fury ram? Let's say if we were to test the exact same, Cl16 3200Hz, Which one would do better and why? Is it something about clock speeds?

[quick locust]

subtimings and the memory modules

and the ranks

the clock speed is the same (1600 MHz)

[pale quartz]

as already mentioned memory has much more involved than just the primary timing and base clock

but as an idea corsair vengeance is shit so get the fury

[toxic wigeon]

YEET

It's also cheaper and simpler lol

[lone sable]

What do you think about mechanical keyboards Deco?

[pale quartz]

eh I mean like, depends what you're asking

if you mean what do I think about them as a generic they're fine ig, but applies to most things

[lone sable]

I got 2 mechincal keyboards and so far i really like the Keychron 97% mech keyboard

I thought you would've had a nice typing mech keyboard for software programing

[pale quartz]

eh not so much

with keyboards specifically the choice if it's mechanical or not is kinda, not as important as people think

the key switches themselves are way more important to consider for overall typing/sound/input key delay etc

[lone sable]

Yeah exactly

But since i bought mech keyboard, every other gaming keyboard feels bad/cheap/wrong

The mech gaming keyboard themselfs are also over priced asf

[pale quartz]

don't get me wrong, the keyboard itself does matter, but the thing with developing software is, comfort is pretty easy to achieve with most

it's pretty rare you'll come across a keyboard you arent comfortable with for high WPM typing than not, even on budget brands it has to be pretty bad for you not to use it

[lone sable]

My office had those 5 euro dell keyboards... drove me absolutely nuts with the feel, noise and just plastic everywhere

Was not comfortable at all

[pale quartz]

yeahh that makes sense

here we don't use that mantra our equipment is high end to top of the line (not that I'd be able to do my job effectively if it wasn't), my keyboard considerations differ from most I suppose

my g14 is a dream to type with and easily smokes my main keyboard, but my main rig is used for other things like games, maybe it was because I took games to a competitive manner for so long who knows but input timings for keys and passing between keys are big factors I consider before using one

my gx brown switches are great for both so I don't plan on switching them anytime soon

[lone sable]

Ohh alright nice

Yeah the GX switches are way better than the galteron ( can't remember the name) they are not quiet at all

[pale quartz]

I came from clicky

that in itself was a nightmare for sound

could hear them across rooms

[lone sable]

Oh good lord....

I feel bad about my 'noisy' silent switches at the office

[pale quartz]

pretty sure it got briefly at one point I was typing that fast that the decibel range was nearly half my actual rig

[lone sable]

I cannot imagine the actual clicky's sound of the clicky switches lol

[pale quartz]

which is nuts and means I had to scrap it

[pale quartz]

yeah never get them

[lone sable]

Wtfff???

That is insane 😂

[quick locust]

I use clicky

But my pc is quite a bit louder

[pale quartz]

yeah it was pretty bad like

I only type with 2 fingers so my WPM count on the decibel scale will be louder than those using all 10 fingers, my keyboard was louder than the fans on my rig

[lone sable]

I play at night often... everyone in my house would hate me if i decided to buy an clicky keyboard lol

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/click-click-click-christopher-schlau-retrogaijin-mouse-click-select-gif-17271759

[lone sable]

😂😂

[quick locust]

I type pretty slowly though

[lone sable]

I type average speed.. not too fast not too slow

[rotund sorrel]

same

lol i thought that was gen chat

[lone sable]

But i mainly use the buttons 'E, R, S, G and Q' lol

[rotund sorrel]

ma bad

[lone sable]

For 3D software

[lone sable]

No worries just hop in :)

[rotund sorrel]

[pale quartz]

my median wpm is 85~

roughly anyways, depends on my mood

[quick locust]

No idea what mine is

[pale quartz]

low to high 90s relatively common

[quick locust]

Very low on mobile

[lone sable]

I have an 60% keyboard at home and a 97% keyboard at the office... just when i get used to one i have to switch keyboard layout so i get confused again lol

[quick locust]

I only use fullsize

[lone sable]

I hate how much space the full size uses

[quick locust]

Same as work except their kbs suck

Not that much space compared to desk

[lone sable]

So i got an 60%, but than i hated the tiny size lol

So i went to 97% instead lol

Ah fck phone is at 1% noooo

[quick locust]

Mine is at funny number

[lone sable]

Hehehe nice

[pale quartz]

[lone sable]

Damn your text size is tint

[quick locust]

Small phone at least

I do want an amoled one next maybe

This is just PLS/IPS

[lone sable]

Really recommend!

[pale quartz]

takes up less space

[pale quartz]

all this massive keyboard nonsense

[quick locust]

I prefer fullsize

Need lot of keybinds

Plus numpad for work

[rotund sorrel]

I've been using the small one for 2 years now

[quick locust]

Tiny laptop keys are annoying

And this is 15 inch

[rotund sorrel]

Writing numbers is still bit slower

But it's better for gaming imo

[rotund sorrel]

So true

[pale quartz]

while ago on my main rig median wpm

[quick locust]

No idea for me, I should try later, but I type pretty slowly despite using all 10

[pale quartz]

itll be faster than that 8700k

[quick locust]

It isn't going to work you know

Unless you send me a 12700K

[pale quartz]

do i look like my name is alder

[quick locust]

Yes

[pale quartz]

you arent supposed to say yes

[quick locust]

But nah 12700K seems best option

Can just move my current ram over since ddr5 is still expensive

And I think they ironed out some of the linux issues on alder lake by now

[pale quartz]

linux

more like get a backdoor in a day

[quick locust]

More like opposite but alright

I dual boot though with one on each own drive

[pale quartz]

https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/26/pwnkit_vulnerability_linuix/

[quick locust]

Already patched

[pale quartz]

tell that to all the linux servers

[quick locust]

Tell anything to servers since a lot still run XP

[pale quartz]

dx9

[quick locust]

Hm?

[pale quartz]

probably running on that aswell for xp servers

[quick locust]

Yeah

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

And old java versions

[quick locust]

All those darn software engineers

[pale quartz]

[sacred dove]

yep but some laptops have bigger keys, just usually forgo numpad

[lone sable]

I am interested in doing this, i wanna try linux but i play anti cheat supported games so i need windows

Would you recommend?

[quick locust]

Anti cheat depends on developer to enable it or not in the SDK, some has but DICE hasn't

Sure, try it around

Can just try live usb first

[lone sable]

Al of my games require anti cheat besides GOW lol

[lone sable]

I have it on my old family laptop to test it, i like it so far but lacking the anti cheat software is a big turn off for me :(

[quick locust]

Yeah, nothing we can do about it other than ask devs to enable it in the sdk

[lone sable]

What does sdk mean?

[quick locust]

Software development kit

[lone sable]

Ahh cool ty :)

[quick locust]

Like DICE could enable it if they wanted to but not a priority for them

[lone sable]

That sucks... :I

[quick locust]

https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4044697/microsoft-february-patch-tuesday-update-hits-48-vulnerabilities

[wet notch]

so that's why i got an update installed today

[lofty light]

Are you seriously advertising your patreon here

[sacred dove]

yes

[pliant fox]

What is like the best affordable pc setup? As in wanting more than 150fps. I’ve been playing with 40-60fps my whole life and ngl im kinda cracked at wz and battlefield but sometimes fps fucks it up.. any tips on new pc specs? I had a laptop for a while and wanna switch to pc and buy like a ducking good one, or should I build it? No experience tho

Also ping me if you react, thanks

[sacred dove]

buy a prebuilt pc with a gpu 8GB bare minimum, hopefully above that for next gen high res graphics. also, the quality of monitor is important: size, resolution, refresh rate, and other factors.

16GB bare minimum system ram

[pliant fox]

Can I dm you quickly?

[sacred dove]

sure

[pliant fox]

Got a pc rn

[pale quartz]

few questions first to answer that

[pliant fox]

Go for it, you could dm me if you want

Need like help otherwise imma get scammed

[pale quartz]

1, what games, your decision on games will influence what parts are necessary for adequate performance 2 what resolution are you targeting and 3 are you looking for future proofing this FPS target for newer games, or just running games you have currently

[pliant fox]

I wanna run Warzone on 150fps or smth for sure. Also for newer games in the future. I’m looking for really good resolution as in settings from medium to high

[pale quartz]

resolution means what internal rendering resolution are you wanting aka 1080p/1440p etc not the quality settings

[pliant fox]

Ohh im aiming at that 3070/3090

But a few lower to start with should be okay, i can change that part later right?

[pale quartz]

you "can", it depends what you're wanting really

[pliant fox]

Well whats decent?

[pale quartz]

is 150 frames a render target using technologies like DLSS, or are you wanting raw performance to hit this level

[pliant fox]

Keep in mind that im fairly new to this pc specs thing, been running on a laptop for a long time

[pale quartz]

yeah no worries

[pliant fox]

Kind of both i guess?

As in I want it

[pale quartz]

ok so I'll assume you'll want it across all your games

[pliant fox]

Yeaa

[pale quartz]

DLSS isn't available in every game so it won't be feasible to hit this performance target with Nvidia cards, if you're wanting 150 frames a 6800xt/6900xt will be your best decision

pair that with a intel 12600/700k, you'll be fine

[pliant fox]

Do you have a website I could build a pc or smth?

[marsh gull]

yeah amd is way cheaper these days

[pliant fox]

Cause honestly I have no clue where to start

[pale quartz]

ironically it's not even cost

RDNA2 just has way better raw performance

[pale quartz]

I'll compile a list, give me a minute

[pliant fox]

And where do I find these parts? Do I buy them separately or do I put these together on a build-your-own-pc website?

Oh damn thanks alot bro!

[marsh gull]

amd is finally better than nvidia?

[prisma anvil]

warzone is kinda ram dependent. I would get 3600 cl14 ram for DDR4, or smth like 5600 for DDR5

[marsh gull]

fair enouph my rx 6600 has excellent preformance in triple a games

[prisma anvil]

also warzone favors nvidia gpu but 150 fps amd should have no trouble hitting that

I think amd is kinda ahead in pure rasterization

features wise is not even close

[pliant fox]

Honestly you’re talking chinese to me atm

[prisma anvil]

like just raw fps no dlss no raytracing all that

[pliant fox]

Been watching youtube videos all night long to get a understanding how everything works

I guess thats where we all started right?

[prisma anvil]

Also current gpu market is really f ed haha amd prices are just as insane :C

I managed to score a RTX 2080 super 2nd hand for 500 USD instead of getting a 6600 for my friend but I don't recommend doing that unless ur kinda tech savvy

[lone sable]

Hehehe well it is one of the easiest ways to get information about new topics

[prisma anvil]

where grim gram at LOL

[pale quartz]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tWzsY9 here is a provisional list, all the parts are full compatible, I've excluded monitor selection and CPU cooler choice as these are custom preferences

[pale quartz]

^

also correct on the feature note

[prisma anvil]

I would change the mobo to msi a pro z690 cause more usb port and get faster ram cause warzone

[lone sable]

Ahw i couldn't see the gif

[pliant fox]

I have no clue what Im doing but imma do it

[prisma anvil]

I built my friend using prime z690 and he was mad on how little usb ports it got haha

[pale quartz]

CL163600, increasing frequency past that has negligible difference for alder lake

you'll see maybe one frame increase at best

MB is valid was just a rush pick anyways

[prisma anvil]

ur right

but its warzone

[pliant fox]

Do I need a cpu cooler? Cause when I played Bf or Wz on my laptop I could literally not put my hand more than 3secs on the screen or it would burn my hand

[lone sable]

Ouch 1K gpu

[prisma anvil]

yeah 1k I am surprised its that cheap LOL

[pale quartz]

you do, the processor isn't particularly power hungry, anything like a noctua nh-u12s will be fine

[lone sable]

How's that cheap

[pale quartz]

that's cheap compared to current market prices

[prisma anvil]

w8 nvm its in euros

[pale quartz]

I got my 6800xt for £1050 in Feb 2021

[prisma anvil]

oof here available is 1420 usd

[pliant fox]

So should I buy these parts separately or build it on a website?

[pale quartz]

you can do either, it doesn't really matter

if you don't feel comfortable building it yourself having someone else do it for you will save you a few hours, depends what you prefer

[prisma anvil]

12600k draws not much power I think a cheap
ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO can handle it

[pale quartz]

yeah 600k pick was intentional for that

[pliant fox]

Damn well thanks a lot

Hopefully I’ll help someone out in the future

[prisma anvil]

also watch out for the meshify C its a great case but watch out on GPU length

I just built a meshify C build last sat

alternative is smth like a 4000D

[lone sable]

I didn't know a I5 cpu could have 10 cores

[pale quartz]

it's ATX so unless it's some monstrosity like a 3090 there "shouldn't" be issues, 6800xt is quite compact for a FF

[lone sable]

I thought the I3,I5,I7 was about cores inside of em

[pale quartz]

they are

well, were

[lone sable]

Ah okay ty

[pale quartz]

Intel's domination of the CPU marketplace for a decade+ means they were able to segregate core count bs according to their naming, with alder lake they had no choice but to scrap that

[prisma anvil]

the case barely fit a 2080 super evga XC haha. if i had my 3070 ftw its kinda sus

[pale quartz]

is the tldr

[lone sable]

But last time you were talking about that some of the Cores are not performance ones, are those 10 cores for performance or is it the 50% performance core none sense?

[prisma anvil]

i5 12600k has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

[pale quartz]

you guessed right

big.little uses a mix

[lone sable]

Ty efficiency cores is what i meant indeed

[prisma anvil]

efficiency core also kinda useless in just gaming.

[pale quartz]

not exactly

[lone sable]

So they are probably also not that efficient in 3D programs like Blender and Unreal Engine?

[pale quartz]

the e cores are skylake level IPC for ADL so they are "useless" for games, right now

however that isn't universally true

that's purely down to golden cove running the entire show with processing power

the next generation with raptor lake will see the efficiency cores be impactful for gaming performance as they won't be a +50% performance deficit between the p and e cores in terms of IPC

[lone sable]

Fuck i got distracted by the chat and exited my bus 1 stop too early

[prisma anvil]

That would be cool.

cause rn all e core does is tank ring clock :C

thus gigabyte has a gaming mode in bios 1st line that disable all e cores.

[pale quartz]

I've went on long form rants here regarding intel and their practices but the abuse they got regarding e cores was not, founded in reality I suppose

misunderstanding from people more or less

[prisma anvil]

I have been dabbing in 2nd hand market abit haha

got inspired by the 500 USD 2080 super

I was like if I can get 20 series for alot cheaper and match the 30 series in performance with alot less money, its worth a tiny gamble. I just need alot of alcohol and cheap artic mx5 haha

[toxic wigeon]

C18 3600 or c16 3200?

[supple bane]

Search that on yt and there will be a comparison on loads of games @toxic wigeon

[lunar dawn]

thats a lot imo

i got my 3090 msi suprim for 1300 euros

(should be around 1500 usd)

basically msrp

[marsh gull]

you lucky guy you got it for technically less than msrp

yep

just checked

[lunar dawn]

nice

[marsh gull]

20usd cheaper than msrp

[lunar dawn]

also now that i think about it

[marsh gull]

you are one of the luckiest poeple every tbh

[lunar dawn]

the fe crard is 1.5k usd msrp

i think

but the msi suprim one is at a higher msrp

[marsh gull]

and you have the rgb on your, 30% more fps

[marsh gull]

thats even better

[lunar dawn]

i honestly turn them off

[marsh gull]

you lost a lot of fps there bud

[lunar dawn]

i have all noctua fans and a liquid freezer ii so no rgb

i only keep rgb on for my keyboard and mouse

[marsh gull]

i mean rgb is a preference after all so nice ig lol

[pale quartz]

its a bit out of context

but it actually only cost £200 for a difference

[quick locust]

https://wccftech.com/exynos-2200-abysmal-cpu-gpu-performance-vs-exynos-2100/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[prime jasper]

5 bucks is not enough for me to take all the seats up at the Walmart snack bar

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/bjb7v.gif

[toxic wigeon]

@pliant fox Yeah no we don't do that here.

[pliant fox]

Oh mybadd

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/full-spec-pcie-gen5-124pin-msi-power-supplies-for-next-gen-gpus-have-been-pictured

[prisma anvil]

3600 cl18 bandwidth and latency is slightly faster. I was testing this on my 3200 cl16 Samsung C die overclocked to 3600 cl18

3200 cl16 18 18 36 vs 3600 cl18 22 22 42

[narrow snow]

Anyone in here good with pc’s ?

[eager whale]

Isn't that because Samsung hasn't released the drivers for it yet and they're using unoptimised ones?

[storm osprey]

yes

[eager whale]

I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere

[narrow snow]

Okay do you think - Ryzen 5 2600x 6 core
24gb ddr4 ram
Rx 580 8gb video card
256gb NVME boot drive
1tb hdd storage drive
Windows 10 pro x64 bit
Can run gta rp or cod etc ?

[storm osprey]

at 1080p low settings im sure youll get decent performance out of it

[narrow snow]

So what’s not letting me run it at 1420p ?

[storm osprey]

1440p? gpu

[narrow snow]

What gpu should I get

[storm osprey]

for 1440p gaming? 3060ti minimum, ideally 3080 if you are talking 1440p/144hz comp gaming

[supple bane]

you dont need a 3080 for 1440p, not yet

3060 minimum, a 3060ti/3070 would be great

[narrow snow]

How much do those typically run for ?

[supple bane]

rn

too much

[narrow snow]

Anywhere I could get them even 100$ cheaper than what they are ?

[storm osprey]

youll be blessed to get one for msrp

[narrow snow]

Cause I was thinking abt get an Alienware pc if this pc wouldn’t work smoothly

[storm osprey]

you already have the pc above?

[narrow snow]

No that’s one that I’m looking at

The dude is selling it for $1,200 but if I can get a better pc for cheaper I’m all ears

[storm osprey]

thats rather expensive for that pc

[narrow snow]

That’s why I’m wondering if I could get something a little cheaper but has just about the same performance

I don’t really care for rgb and stuff like that I just want a good gaming pc

[storm osprey]

hes probably charging that just because of the gpu market, but i feel like any prebuilt will be better for that price (assuming USA)

[narrow snow]

I seen a dude selling a Alienware pc for 700 but there’s only a photo showing the pc not it turned on and working

And I wanna budget myself atleast 1k so I get can all the other accessories like a mic , monitor , and elgato

I was looking at nzxt but idk if they have any good pcs for atleast 1k

They have one that’s a foundation pc - H510 edition that’s 800 and can run gta at 60fps on 1080p

And the gpu is called APU whatever that is I don’t enough abt pc’s like that

The processor speed is 3.9GHz

[storm osprey]

way better

[narrow snow]

I mean it looks pretty good the only issue is it only has 500gb storage

[narrow snow]

What site can I get this from ?

[storm osprey]

bestbuy

[narrow snow]

I was gonna look on newegg but they probably don’t have. Good cheap pc’s

I’d rather waste my money on a pc than a Xbox or PlayStation

[storm osprey]

dont give your money to newegg, they are assholes

[narrow snow]

Okay I’m gonna send you a message

[rain bolt]

anyone know if i can still get refund on bf2042? 36 hours play time bought the game when it released

[supple bane]

if its on steam your chances are small

if its on origin, dont bother

[rain bolt]

got it on steam ty

[supple bane]

you can try

[rain bolt]

yah gonna try

[sacred dove]

3080 should last a long time for high/RT 1080p gaming

and 1440p medium gaming as well (in a couple years)

[sacred dove]

even a 1070 will still run the majority of games at 1440p, though newer games will be ultra low settings and/or lowered res

10GB vram on "high end" 2020 card should be a crime.

[narrow snow]

Wow I’m gonna be spending a total of 1,500k on everything I need to start my pc gaming adventure

[supple bane]

if you brought that pc nyphon sent above, 1.5k sounds about right if you have nothing currently

[lunar dawn]

tbf i can run 2042 at 100fps all low 1080 p on my second pc (1070 laptop)

1070 is still a good gpu ngl

[narrow snow]

I might unless he’s gonna recommend something a little better

[storm osprey]

only looking at bestbuy thats what i would personally get, idk about other prebuilts

[narrow snow]

The main reason I’d be spending 1.5k is for a monitor chair and desk

[sacred dove]

mobile 1070 is kinda what a desktop 1060Ti would have been, performance-wise

[humble iris]

Anyone use a 420 AIO?

[marsh gull]

it just means that theres no graphics card

so youre not gonna get great preformance

[narrow snow]

Oof

[marsh gull]

its one of the best value pcs ive seen these days damn

[toxic wigeon]

Or more specifically. Apu's (if I'm correct) are integrated gpus in the CPUs, they're not super powerful but they do their job.

[narrow snow]

@toxic wigeon I’m gonna send you a message

I just need help with deciding is all

And sadly I’m not able to send photos of specs in this chat

[marsh gull]

and at least you can upgrade to a gpu later if you need to

[narrow snow]

I might of found a decent setup

The only thing I’m not sure of is the intel core i5 running gta 5 on low settings at 1080p with a RTX 3050

I’d also would need to get another 8gb DDR4 3200

So I could have a total of 16gb ram space

have any input of if it would be a good system ? It also has a 600w gold psu

[lavish elm]

On bfv matches, my game runs completely fine until people start fighting so I wonder how I can reduce that frame drop, and I play on low settings

[prisma anvil]

spec?

[lavish elm]

Oh my bad I can’t check right now but I’ll just ask tomorrow

[humble iris]

Best Buy just lost me as an Elite Customer for 20+ years. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/best-buy-totaltech-geforce-rtx

[lunar dawn]

yes

[humble iris]

Which one do you have?

[lunar dawn]

liquid freezer II

the 420 one is like 130 euros rn iirc

[humble iris]

Awesome that's the one I was looking at.

You like it?

[lunar dawn]

yes

check gamernexus' reviews on it

on yt

[humble iris]

that window pump looks sick AF

I wonder if they fixed that cold plate offset for AMD

Ohh that's not the actual pump, but an indicator still good

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-software-defined-cpu-support-coming-to-linux-518

[digital hill]

You know a cards bad when its still in stock

[raw turtle]

people aren’t buying it? good

[humble iris]

Qick what a stupid name for a card, wait, that name is perfect for the card.

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBy1mDy0JUA

[storm osprey]

looks like a hand puppet

[proud trellis]

looks like something else to

[quick locust]

ergonomic mice are weird

https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/computer-kontor/computertilbehor/mus-tastatur/mus/sandstrom-vertikal-ergonomisk-tradlos-mus/39736

heres the mouse

https://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=30909

[humble iris]

Try watching this video in (8K) 4320p @ 60 fps https://youtu.be/WjoplqS1u18

[midnight crypt]

no

[supple bane]

hmmm. i cant now.

i used to be able to watch 8k videos fine.

cpu bottlenecked massively now, its like 3 fps

[humble iris]

What CPU?

It's AV1 as well

[eager sun]

14MB/s connection speed watching that video

[molten coral]

runs pretty smooth

[humble iris]

did you set it to 8K in the video settings?

[molten coral]

89-92% CPU usage

yes

[humble iris]

Yep same here

[molten coral]

5900x

[humble iris]

6950x

[eager sun]

firefox using mores cores than games lmao

[humble iris]

mines using all 20 threads at 65%-93%

average maybe 83%

[supple bane]

r5 2600

8k 30 videos run smooth

thats why i remember being able to run them

ive never tried 8k 60

[molten coral]

Watching 8k on my 1080p screen

[supple bane]

for youtube it does actually make an improvement

high res videos have higher bitrates

so even tho its capped to your monitors res, it will look better than just selecting that res

[humble iris]

here's my Taskman readout watching the video

https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/8k-6950x.gif

8GB ram

[humble iris]

Same Here

[supple bane]

also i remember it using gpu decode rather than cpu

last time i tried this

[humble iris]

Yeah it's AV1

[supple bane]

for me its not doing that at all

gpu is idle

[humble iris]

So its decoding on CPU?

[supple bane]

from what i can tell

those humps line up with the buffers, which tell me the gpu isnt doing anything, its just displaying the image

[humble iris]

that's weird

[supple bane]

ahhhhh

[humble iris]

I was just about to say

[supple bane]

nope, still not using gpu

[humble iris]

Ohh thats not by device, its by encoder type

should be something somewhere about hardware acceleration

in Chrome?

[supple bane]

yar

[humble iris]

So apparently 3000 series GPU is going t0 play it better I guess

[supple bane]

like i said it USED to use gpu

[humble iris]

there is a setting in the browser I believe somewhere

[quick locust]

People with ryzen non-apu and 6500xt

[humble iris]

yep

[supple bane]

welp who knows

not like im ever actually going to watch an 8k video. just curious as to why its not using gpu

[humble iris]

You have to set it in some settings I believe it depends on what browser you are using

[supple bane]

i looked

only thing i could find was about hardware acceleration, and it was already enabled

[humble iris]

hmm. I'm looking to see if I find it, would be nice to know

maybe in Nvidia Control Panel somewhere

I wonder if setting Game Mode to ON will fix it.

So i'm reading that people have to download something from windows store

@supple baneWhat GPU do you Have?

[supple bane]

2070

im not that desperate to watch 8k videos, i just didnt know why it was working and now it isnt

[pale quartz]

force enable it

[quick locust]

does not use gpu by default for me either

in ff

[pale quartz]

cause firefox bad

[quick locust]

av1 is enabled though in ff

hm

[pale quartz]

yours doesnt support GPU AV1 acceleration

RDNA2 and ampere only

[quick locust]

well

good thing i get free intel gpu soon

[pale quartz]

sure your 8700k will be happy

[quick locust]

🔥

[humble iris]

Why does it work on my 2080?

Okay so I get it now, hince the cpu usage.

I'm a proud that my Old CPU can play an 8k video fairly smooth

[pale quartz]

it doesnt work on your 2080, your GPU is accelerating other parts of the D3D stream, but the actual video is being processed by the CPU

it is impossible for turing to decode AV1 on a hardware level

[humble iris]

Thanks, I figured it out just before. I was thinking due to the high GPU usage, yes you are correct. I was confused. the older 8K 60 video play just fine. as they are on the previous encoder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=linlz7-Pnvw

No reason to upgrade unless you need to encode AV1, or watch a lot 8K AV1

[pale quartz]

decode

ampere and RDNA2 dont support encoding AV1

[humble iris]

Don't you need a AV1 GPU to Encode it as well

[pale quartz]

you dont, you cant encode with them at all

the accelerators only support decode streams, they dont function with encode streams

[humble iris]

How do you render a AV1 movie?

[pale quartz]

because rendering a file is decoding a file

encoding something means actually processing something which doesnt exist yet, aka making a movie in say AV1, which would be impossible with RDNA2/ampere, but you can watch it perfectly fine because decoding AV1 is supported

[humble iris]

Ahh okay. So how is Youtube doing it?

[pale quartz]

encoding them into av1?

with massive data farms basically

[humble iris]

It's only 8K as well I think

on youtube anyway

[pale quartz]

8k is massive

every time you double the pixel count you are increasing the processing time by ^n2 every single time

[humble iris]

It's crazy

[lavish elm]

how do i reduce the lag in bfv when more fights start to occur and when it gets chaotic

[humble iris]

alt + f4

[near rune]

Looks like your an immersion gamer so best way is to uninstall

[opaque saddle]

A really really slow server that I bought a while back. 1 chrome tab of YouTube 1080p video playback = spike at 100% usage, averaging 33% cpu usage during playback

But the good thing is 4w power consumption from the cpu per se

[midnight crypt]

an intel atom "server"

good meme

[opaque saddle]

Well, it doesn’t mean it can’t run as a server. This thing did process and publish all those data from sensors to my website 24/7 for 4 years, until it got replaced with a single core rpi zero

It cost around 7 AUD a year to run a server tho

[lone sable]

Bruh 7 aud a year is nothing, some people pay 7 aud a month to rent a server :0

[lunar dawn]

reduce graphics quality and perhaps try to turn futurr frane rendering on or off

also play in full screen

[opaque saddle]

My rpi zero w now only cost 1.8 AUD/year, or 15 cents/month to run. Pretty impressive.

[lone sable]

Oh damn that really is impressive!

[opaque saddle]

The only down side is we don’t have enough solar panels to cover the electricity usage

[lone sable]

I want to get a new cpu and RAM but i would also need a new mobo for the cpu upgrade... so when i save enough money to buy for those upgrades i am thinking of making a second bare bone pc for a server perhaps

[opaque saddle]

I think you should save up until you have enough to buy it all at once

[lone sable]

Imma guess you mean the electric usage of the devices that make use of the server?

[opaque saddle]

Coz I used to save up money from lunch to buy all those parts one by one

Regretted it immediately

[lone sable]

Oh lol why?

[opaque saddle]

Yep. We use more power than we generated

[lone sable]

I know this is the smart way to do it, but when it comes to new gadgets/technology i get very impatient lol

[opaque saddle]

Coz there was a 9 months wait between my cpu and my gpu. Then I bought myself a laptop 5 months afterward

[lone sable]

Oh ouch...

[opaque saddle]

So the whole computer that I built, was pretty much useless and I haven’t touched it for around 10 years and counting

[lone sable]

Oh yeah that sucks... thanks i will keep that in mind

[opaque saddle]

Well, I didn’t actually buy a monitor screen till 3 years after

But yeah, this is what I would suggested

[lone sable]

Selecting a good monitor for the right price can be tricky if it is your first monitor tho

[opaque saddle]

Sometimes people may want to get a laptop instead coz they have to travel around

[lone sable]

I paid extra for an HDR screen and i regret it :(

[opaque saddle]

Eh, that was my first IPS monitor

HDR screen isn’t the best option, I would rather pay a bit premium for a better quality panel

[lone sable]

Yeah exactly, but it is an LG monitor so the screen is good, but also a lie lol

[opaque saddle]

My UHD display can do HDR but at 400 nits

So it is better than nothing but I don’t use it at all

[opaque saddle]

LG makes good panels

[lone sable]

Yeah exactly that is also something to pay attention to

[opaque saddle]

But yeah I know how painful it was to save up and get what I wanted back when I was a teen

[lone sable]

I saw a screenshot of Hess's gameplay and he has an ultra wide... now i am curious about screens like that

[opaque saddle]

I have a 21:9 ultrawide but not a 32:9

[lone sable]

So hess has an 32:9 screen? Damn

[opaque saddle]

I would say it is better than 16:9 coz it is more cinematic

I bought a 21:9 coz i like how cinematic it looks

But I would say you cannot see much anything wider than that

[lone sable]

Yeah but they also look stretched sometimes... also it is nice to have a square screen when using 3D software because than i can have info at the bottom of the screen as well

But for gaming, i think it would be lots of fun

[opaque saddle]

I remember isn’t that LG makes a weird 16:18 display?

So basically it is 2x 16:9 panels stacked on top of each other

[opaque saddle]

Depends. I bought it for gaming and watching movies. No regret

[lone sable]

Wtf did i just google lmaaooooo

That is an interesting screen, for a specific situation

[opaque saddle]

I would say production works

[lone sable]

Exactly it would, also less left to right movement so i think it would feel better for your neck

[opaque saddle]

Being able to view a timeline and a live view screen is perfect for the use case

Coz 16:9 is just too short for it

Yeah

[lone sable]

Exactly

But in my case i wouldn't need a whole new screen, just a tiny bit taller. I would like to see the materials tab on the bottom of the screen so i can color my objects nicely

[opaque saddle]

I think the manufacturers used to made 5:4 display (I cannot confirm if they are still making it today) for web browsing

I think tiling the 16:9 screen 90 degrees still work

[lone sable]

Thank you! Finally i know what the purpose of those square screens are lmao 😂

I never understood the purpose of those and they are just weird looking at them

[lone sable]

Yeah this would be the superior way i agree

[opaque saddle]

They have different use cases. I was just too lucky to use it all from CRT to IPS in the past 20 years

I’m at my early 20s lol

[lone sable]

Ah so you really grew up with technology, nice

I grew up with a tv and the wii, ps3 and 4... i am the same age as you :)

[opaque saddle]

Big change I would say. We are lucky enough to see all kinds of changes in tech

And lucky enough to be born in the era, since we requires the least amount of effort to learn as we grow up with the latest tech over the years

[lone sable]

That is very true

Anyways i am gonna get my lazy ass up, out of my bed and get breakfast... it was fun talking to ya, cya :)

[opaque saddle]

Gonna go to bed coz it is a bit late here. Good night

[lone sable]

Sweet dreams!

[opaque saddle]

See ya

[frozen relic]

anybody knows smh about battlefield V?

it keeps crashing

[quaint flower]

i have 1k bugdet can anyone recommend me decent build for 2042?

[lone sable]

Are there any other games you want to play and which games are those? Asking ahead of the people who have time to make a build for you ;)

[quaint flower]

FiveM, Rust, probably some VR titles like pavlov

[lone sable]

Oh FiveM for RP in gta?

[quaint flower]

yes

[raw turtle]

USD?

[humble iris]

I installed an NVMe on an Intel G31/ICH7 w/ E2160 Socket 775 and it actually works. Only getting just under 700MB/s Read/Write but I did not think it would be possible. Pretty sure PCIe 1.0 as it only refers to being PCI Express x 16. Still fun to see it works. MS-7525 Board

Ohh and the NVNe was a Western Digital SN750

[prime jasper]

Finally got my 12600k/3080 build done. Just in time to hop back on the 2042 train!

[humble iris]

Nice rig

[prime jasper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FrTqN9fg3Xc?feature=share

[pale quartz]

budget for 2042? doesn't exist

[humble iris]

Kool

[midnight crypt]

what train?

the derailed one?

[sacred dove]

this would actually be pretty difficult even with msrp gpu and below msrp cpu

[eager sun]

you can get something quite good for 1.3k

rx6600xt and 12400f

[toxic wigeon]

You'll have to sorta push it.

[rain void]

is there anything I should change? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Gdhdhsjdhdmxj/saved/#view=qDNrvK

[eager sun]

amd is big nono at the moment

replace cpu with 12400f

[molten coral]

big nono?

why exactly

[rain void]

why is it?

[eager sun]

12th gen outperforming amd literally everywhere ? 180$ 12400f >> 270$ r5 5600x ?

[molten bramble]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084S7X2W8/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ce6bff422e3f90b7a58260b4b0e68b81&hsa_cr_id=6257904700201&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=b3fb62da-bc43-4b10-9887-82fd8f381449&pd_rd_w=tFokS&pd_rd_wg=FRmnG&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_title Didn't realize this was a thing, but I'm probably going to order one. 😄 My 3080 is sagging a bit.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0948RC4GK/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ce6bff422e3f90b7a58260b4b0e68b81&hsa_cr_id=6257904700201&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=b3fb62da-bc43-4b10-9887-82fd8f381449&pd_rd_w=tFokS&pd_rd_wg=FRmnG&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_2_img This one does look cleaner though.

[molten coral]

I think the second one looks better

[molten bramble]

Same

[molten bramble]

Bought it, here on Tuesday. Do think it was just the less obnoxious.

[rain void]

ya, second one without rgb looks better

[molten bramble]

Got it with the RGB because there is RGB already in the case and there is a bit of a deadzone in that space.

[humble iris]

Looks like they both have RBG, the second one is addressable RGB

[viral quest]

!rank

[humble iris]

does that actually do anything

!rank

nope

[final idol]

Does anyone have a fix for the battlefield 4 connection problem on pc?

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[trim tiger]

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Linux-5.18-First

[pale quartz]

give it 40 years until it actually makes its way into the Linux kernel with the repo maintainers shouting at each other about "maintainability"

[lone sable]

changing the ps4 base HDD for an SSD... good lord making an back up takes FOR EVER on an HDD

[supple bane]

yep

thats why you are upgrading to an ssd :P

dey slow

[lone sable]

yeah true but man it hurts lol, i don't even use this ps4 my self.. it is for my sis

[digital hill]

At least amd is good with linux expect nvidia

[frail vault]

lol

the train don even exist

[humble iris]

What program are you using to make the backup?

[lone sable]

The default ps4 software, it allows to export some game captures i had

[humble iris]

Ahh okay, I thought maybe you pulled it out, and was backing it up on PC.

[toxic mauve]

can punkbuster detect reshade on bf4?

[pale quartz]

yes

[toxic mauve]

keep getting kicked by punkbuster bf4

any fixes?

[pale quartz]

nope

[proper skiff]

!!punkbuster

[silent oasis]

ℹ️ If you're having problems with Punkbuster, we recommend following this community-made guide to installing and using it! https://www.carbonic.dk/punkbusterguide/

[proper skiff]

try this

[trim tiger]

Downloading a browser on Linux is easier than doing it via another browser.

Also you don't have to disinfect your PC after using Edge.

[quick locust]

sudo dnf in firefox

or just use the GUI software utility

here's edge

[lunar dawn]

indeed

sudo pacman -S firefox (for anch) or apt install with debian distros

[prime jasper]

Kek

[pale quartz]

minus the fact that Linux hasn't, and continues not to support half of any new implemented features till months after they become available on MAC and windows for browsers

ever tried to get vulkan working on Linux for browsers? yeah good luck with that without 5 different modified drivers which make it "compatible" (aka hacky solutions which have 50 different bugs by themselves)

[eager sun]

deco do you know what to do when windows reserves 8gb out of 16gb for hardware making only 8gb available ? ive seen that problem a few times, people had never set anything weird in msconfig

[digital hill]

Hmm I heard google may bring chrome os to pc

[opaque saddle]

Chrome os is using pc hardware anyway, either arm or x86-64 processors

The problem is that, chrome os may not support older hardware at the same time. I would be very surprised if I got my hands on a >$600 chromebook coz it is too expensive for a laptop that does limited tasks with similar hardware a windows laptops have.

It is chrome os by the end of the day…

[lunar dawn]

perhaps clear cmos

[dry pike]

New Win11 update finally has clock on secondary monitors. What amazing technology!

[lone sable]

Yyeeesss!! Finally xd

[prime jasper]

Are you being sarcastic? 😆

[dry pike]

maaaaaaaybe

[digital hill]

I think the goal of the new chrome os by google is to do that

Its called chrome os flex and that's bascially what's it goal transform your old laptop or pc's into chromium based pc's

You know I might try to install it on pentium 4 machine I got my stepdad

See if it even can at least install it

[pale quartz]

how do you mean?

[eager sun]

for some people task manager says that they are using x/8gb of ram although they have 16gb ram installed, task manager also says that (the other) 8gb are reserverd for hardware, usally only a few MB are reserved for hardware but if 8gb are reserved you will only have 8gb left to actually use

[pale quartz]

have a screenshot of this?

[eager sun]

cant send here just go into task manager -> ram and pretend its says "hardware reserved: 8gb" in the bottom right corner and your also missing 8gb where it shows ur ram usage

[pale quartz]

the only reason this could happen basically is with an incorrect RAM configuration

windows will automatically detect the sticks on boot, so if there's dust or whatever between the slots it will incorrectly read the DIMM slots

[eager sun]

cpu-z recognizes 16gband both sticks

[pale quartz]

the problem isnt the sticks themselves

can just be a loose stick or whatever, it happens, make sure they are actually firmly in the slots, aka double clicked

[eager sun]

but windows seems to know that the sticks are there as well but for some reason 8gb get reserved for hardware and therefore are not available for normal use

[pale quartz]

is this a 8x2 config or 4x4?

[eager sun]

2x8

you can actually manually prevent windows from accessing all the ram, if you do that the amount of ram windows cant access will appear as the hardware reserved value but im sure nobody "accidentally" does that with a bcdedit command and throws away half the ram

its also sort of possible with msconfig but i checked that nothing set there just trying to figure out a "not reinstalling windows" solution

[pale quartz]

see the thing is windows reads the modules, on boot, not during its operation, so there's only 2 real, areas for actually going wrong, the actual slots, or some software

you're going to have more success reseating the actual modules than messing about with software settings, so do that first before you do anything else

[eager sun]

isnt it obvious that some half plugged in stick either doesnt get recognized at all or the motherboard doesnt post ?

[pale quartz]

it isnt, actually

its not what youd think

each section of the gold DIMM module houses some sort of data read responsible for different parts of a system, one being loose will not necessarily cause any obvious issues such as not posting or whatever, just as long as that pin contact is connected to the DIMM slot

these sorts of things happen and are perfectly normal, and is the most likely to occur with the actual modules, so reseat the actual modules before you do 20 different things you forget about which dont fix the problem, but will cause more problems down the road

[eager sun]

ive seen it a few times now feels like lottery to plug in a ram stick just wrong enough but not too wrong so it kinda works but actually doesnt

[pale quartz]

you misunderstand

it doesnt mean you did anything wrong to begin with

gravity causes memory itself to become loose from the slot

[marsh gull]

fax

lol

[marsh gull]

guess

[marsh gull]

frankly you would be better off with some version of ubuntu: my dad has inspiron 5000 laptops from like 12 years ago that run ubuntu just fine

[humble iris]

Are they running a Ram Disk, or Ram Cache?

This can also even be Samsung Magician if a SATA SSD is set to Rapid Mode.

I would think if it was for APU shared system memory it would not reserve it that way, but it could be onboard video reserving the system ram.

[pale quartz]

APU VRAM does not "allocate" extra memory, it will only ever use the memory which is available to it (that is its own internal VRAM), you are thinking of pooled memory, which is shared between the OS and hardware, this is segregated and is different to hardware reserved memory

[raw turtle]

WOOOO

hell yeah

i've been missing that feature

[pale quartz]

HRM is memory which is solely responsible for providing enough system memory to the hardware drivers, and that's it

[raw turtle]

the drivers need their own ram?

[pale quartz]

of course, every process on a pc needs memory, it's impossible for them to function if they don't have resources

[raw turtle]

makes sense

never fully understood how the hardware drivers really work

makes sense for them to still need rma

so what causes some people to have an issue with HRM being almost half their memory sometimes?

[pale quartz]

already discussed

90% of the time the memory has gone bad, in some capacity, tldr

[raw turtle]

oh didn't realize that was what the topic was

i've seen some people say it might be due to 32 bit windows, or some people just clear CMOS and hope for the best

the ram having gone bad seems like an extreme tbh

[pale quartz]

the architecture version of Windows isnt applicable to this

because it has nothing to do with HWR at all

[raw turtle]

granted it was a buildapc subreddit and i didn't believe it at all either lmao

[pale quartz]

yeah Reddit users aren't exactly the brightest bulbs you'll see on the internet

[raw turtle]

some are alright... but most people as soon as they somewhat learn how PCs work flock to reddit with the right intentions of wanting to help people but just lack the knowledge sometimes and lead people to do bad things

there was a post about someone literally telling a poor guy (i think a kid) to open up a power supply and mess with something in it

which can cause bodily harm if not done by a professional who knows how to do it safely

[pale quartz]

don't trust strangers tldr

[raw turtle]

dont trust strangers on the internet

there are many people who are smart and have plenty of know how

AKA basically the servers that i stick around in with pc build help

my knowledge and hands on experience has grown rapidly over time but there's always something to learn

[eager sun]

xd the people ive seen with that problem just about know how to turn on a pc they basically dont do anything but game

[dry pike]

Latest Windows 11 update finally updated notepad. Mmmm.

[opaque saddle]

I will use Win10 as long as it is supported

[prime jasper]

I have new technology😀12600k/3080 10GB

[pale quartz]

was actually in the beta build a month ago

[dry pike]

You can say that about every update for Win11 though

[pale quartz]

eh not really, the taskbar change came in this week, notepad has been there for a while

[dry pike]

Still waiting for that dark mode task manager though

[prime jasper]

Nice

[pale quartz]

will be out very soon, the dev build contains the code to turn it on

[quick locust]

I like some parts of Windows 11, dislike other parts

[pale quartz]

I like some parts about space heaters, dislike other parts

[quick locust]

centered panel is nice, but the start menu is worse with recommendations and ads

[pale quartz]

you can actually just switch them off

[quick locust]

also more clicks to do a lot of stuff

[pale quartz]

they don't show unless you've turned them on

[quick locust]

ive not, its default

[pale quartz]

yeah, you need to explicitly turn them on during the installation it's a prompt that says targeted advertising

[quick locust]

there's no prompts when you upgrade

only fresh installs

[pale quartz]

meh must have kept it turned on since w10

[quick locust]

nope

[pale quartz]

happens

[pale quartz]

eh fresh install of W11 is 99% advised anyways tbh

I'll need to purge my upgrade I've done aswell and move over

[dry pike]

Agreed, upgrade gives too many weird issues in my experience

[prime jasper]

I have read people have so many issues with Win 11 I just built a new PC and installed Win 11. I have had literally ZERO issues. Are the people with hardware that is not current gen having issues?

[pale quartz]

the stats for that are 98% of people with the current gen hardware haven't had problems (problems being, major crashes what not), meaning 98/100 people who have issues don't meet the requirements, in some capacity

[sacred dove]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-knife-sharpening-green-goblin-willem-dafoe-gif-20955065

rtx 2080 Ti users when more 4k games tip over 3080's 10GB

[sacred dove]

dude says really dumb, nonsensical things pretty often, just like fellow billionaires trump and musk

[quick locust]

elden ring

[opaque saddle]

Nope

[pale quartz]

1 frame per GHz

[opaque saddle]

It should be minimum system requirement

Down from “Above” Recommended requirement level

[humble iris]

That's why I stated I wouldn't think it would report that way, but the system does allocate system memory for video beyond the physical dedicated. But either way yeah it's not the issue, I should maybe not have mentioned it. https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/vramsysram.jpg

[humble iris]

It's possible they have rapid mode enabled on a sata ssd

It could be the motherboard doesn't actually support it, I don't know what the actual board is though. Could be a BIOS limitation

Maybe mixed sticks not supported by board or bios

[molten bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-ok-yikes-oh-no-whoops-oh-god-gif-15937972

[quick locust]

https://betanews.com/2022/02/16/crucial-ballistix-dead-micron/

[molten bramble]

Was it still popular? I had four sets of DIMMs go bad, never used them again.

[quick locust]

Yes it's been very popular

Pretty cheap mostly

[prime jasper]

Oh damn

Ballistix memory was one of the best

You will be missed

[quick locust]

It was mostly mediocre

but cheap and popular cause of it

[supple bane]

Im on my third set of corsair vengence in the space of 3 years, i feel like ram is just one of those things that die

[lunar dawn]

i mean corsair vengeance is shit ram though

crucial ballistix is way better

[quick locust]

i use tridentz silver-red

[proud trellis]

I thought Corsair was one of the best ngl

maybe I was wrong

[sacred dove]

idr if i have ever had ram die. my last ddr3 lasted 7 years before i just gave it away, still worked though

[lunar dawn]

if you want good ram them crucial ballistix 3600mhz cl16

like bruh i have hyperx (laptop) and cruciall ballistix max on my desktop and never had to replace ram

i mean it really is a bad thing that you had to replace your ram 3 times in 3 years ...

[opaque saddle]

I have had a ddr2 ram stick that failed

[lunar dawn]

i mean yeah but ddr2 was a long time ago

[opaque saddle]

The cpu that failed on me was a MS surface pro, which is a refurbished model

I haven't heard of RAM failure during normal usage unless people OC it

[storm osprey]

all ram comes from the same 4ish places

[sacred dove]

why spend a bunch on ddr4 rn?

i guess if you absolutely have to build a new pc rn

[opaque saddle]

People can spend a double for DDR5 ram or pay half the price for DDR4 and also new parts, these things aren't cheap. They can buy it or wait for 2 years for the price to come down.

[lunar dawn]

i mean its literally 70 euros

for 16 gbs

wich is like 80 dollars iirc

[sacred dove]

huh

70 or 80?

[lunar dawn]

so its not a bunch and second ddr5 is scalped for over 400 dollars for some kits

[lunar dawn]

fixed it

[sacred dove]

kk

[lunar dawn]

(where i live ofc)

[sacred dove]

i mean yeah it's fine, though 16GB is pretty small these days

[lunar dawn]

tbh no

[sacred dove]

kind of the bare minimum for a new computer

[lunar dawn]

depends on what games and what you do

i have 32 on both laptop and desktop

but i need to it for games development

[sacred dove]

i would only get less than 16 if used some lighter OS than windows and/or literally only used it for email

[lunar dawn]

i mean kinda of but even for a decent gaming experience 8 is enough

also swap file is a thing, even though ssd isnt as fast a ram

but for gaming imo 16 is the right choice

[raw turtle]

16 is the minimum at this point

[opaque saddle]

16 GB is plenty for gaming unless you are playing games like cities skylines that allows you to install mods or texture pack. With the amount of workshop files that I have installed, it uses 31GB.

[raw turtle]

with discord/spotify open and anything else you might need you’re gonna be hitting 8gb on basically every game

[opaque saddle]

But I just wouldn’t get anything with less than 16

[supple bane]

games still run fine on 8. 16 will give about 10-20% more performance

[opaque saddle]

Even my 2011 laptop has 16gb of ram

[supple bane]

dont forget, just cuz a game is using say 13gb ram, doesnt mean it NEEDS that

[raw turtle]

define “games”

plus it’s not about performance increase either, 90% of the time in games when you max out ram it can cause major stuttering and sometimes even crashing depending on how bad the game is optimization wise

plus alt tabbing would take forever

[opaque saddle]

Btw windows 10 itself uses 2.6gb already

[raw turtle]

and i get 4.5gb idle on a good day

[supple bane]

windows for example will use like 200gb of ram at idle if you max out an epyc build. does that mean windows on that build is running faster cuz its using more ram? no, its just using what its got.

[opaque saddle]

I think it is all down to temporarily files

macOS (this is not windows) tends to use utilise more ram for system caches and store temporary files. My 15” MacBook Pro 16gb model uses 11-14gb doing normal tasks, with a couple of safari tabs and discord open

The system is well optimised using the ram, it makes it faster to do everyday tasks (only applies on macOS), instead of having 12gb of ram on idle and not fully utilised

[sacred dove]

i frequently use over 16GB but very rarely over 24GB

when i get ddr5 (in at least 4 years) i'll definitely be upping it to 64 though

[supple bane]

again

windows uses what its got

thats not to say what you are doing requires that amount of ram

[molten bramble]

Eh? Corsair Vengeance LPX non-RGB has been some of the best memory I've used in the last decade. x5 machines with multiple upgrades between 16-64Gb of range installs. Weird you've had such bad luck with it.

[supple bane]

thats the very memory

[molten bramble]

Are you OC'g the memory?

[supple bane]

the ones that died, no

the set i have currently is

they didnt even have xmp on

[molten bramble]

That's crazy

[molten bramble]

It is typically pretty good, so for me it's wild he's having so much issues.

[supple bane]

my current set has been going for a while, and is well over even xmp speeds currently

[molten bramble]

What timings?

[supple bane]

xmp timings with an oc on speed

cl13

2666

[proud trellis]

is there much difference in 3200mhz and 3600mhz, performance wise ?

[supple bane]

youtube

[lunar dawn]

you can close stuff and prevent apps from startinf eith windows

my pc uses 1.3 gbs on idle

i simply disabled services i dont need, like xbox stuff

[lunar dawn]

depends on cas latency

if its at the same cas latency 3600mhz is better and has higher bandwidth

3200 cl 16 is same as 3600 cl 18, in some scenarios 3600 can still be better because of higher bandwidth

[proud trellis]

i still dont understand what CL16 and CL18 are, is the higher the CL the better ?

[quick locust]

Opposite

It's latency

Lower the better

[proud trellis]

ahh

[hexed wharf]

guys

Help

I need help with something

[molten bramble]

Read the pins and then ask your question(s).

[hexed wharf]

Its help with bf1

Somethings wrong with the video

[molten bramble]

!!support

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[hexed wharf]

Its not account problem

The brightness is weird

Its blooming

[molten bramble]

If they cannot assist you in #battlefield-legacy-titles, then you should ask for assistance at the links provided.

This channel is not particularly for technical support, this is about technology.

[raw turtle]

i know, it’s just discord + other background apps and i’m too lazy to do a full reset of a stripped windows

[digital hill]

Man my moms laptop windows update corrupted the touchpad driver

had to uninstall the driver and literally reinstall it

[lone sable]

Did you do that all with the keyboard or with a mouse?

[opaque saddle]

Sometimes SSD/HDD gets bad sectors over time, that happens a lot when the drive is old/weak or it ran out of space.
I would recommend to install windows precision driver on it if you don't have one.

[lone sable]

what does that do? Locate the less efficient parts of the HDD?

[opaque saddle]

Bad sectors = the HDD/SSD is unable to read/write coz that "small section of the storage" is/are malfunctioning.
Windows precision drivers = A better touchpad driver developed by Microsoft with better touchpad responsiveness and greater accuracy, compared to the stock Synaptics or ETD drivers that is preinstalled on the laptop. The precision driver works even better than what ETD or Synaptics can provide.

@lone sable

[lone sable]

ahhh... the naming makes more sense now... thank you

[opaque saddle]

No worries

but yeah. It was an eMMC based system with 32GB of storage. The software from pc was running perfectly until windows update has decided to download 10gb of files while it has 2GB left from the system

it crashed and many things went corrupted

[quick locust]

There's supposed to be safeguards for that always

But windows is windows I guess

[opaque saddle]

I wouldn't touch Windows unless I'm unable to switch on my desktop. Coz I know the more I update/play with it, the higher chance I will fail

[digital hill]

I'll test it maybe it is better

I do have a laptop so I'll try it on mine first

[clear oxide]

still can't get into a match lmao

[naive crag]

could not find a suitable game battlefield 4 HELP PLEASE

[humble iris]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-sapphire-rapids-with-hbm-is-2x-faster-than-amds-milan-x

.
And hopefully an affordable HEDT from Intel.
https://wccftech.com/intel-sapphire-rapids-ap-hedt-cpu-lineup-late-2022-launch-rumor/

[quick locust]

Yeah I know someone that works on them

[humble iris]

On the CPUs?

[quick locust]

Yes

[humble iris]

Thats kool. What do they, like in the factory or something?

[quick locust]

Yeah manufactoring

[humble iris]

Wow that would be a kool job.

So will there be i7 X CPUs?

[quick locust]

No idea

[humble iris]

I heard they will all be Xeons

[rain bolt]

anyone know how to fix bf3 just saying joining server but i wont join the server?

[gray jasper]

where can i find, on windows 11, the config file for battlefield V?

[lunar dawn]

under /documents/bfv/settings/profsave_profile

[gray jasper]

this is the old user.cfg?

[lunar dawn]

user.cfg is a file you need to create

and it needs to be put in the directory of the game

[gray jasper]

ok, thanks

[lunar dawn]

wich can vary if you have installed from steam or origin

[gray jasper]

not in the main of the game?

[gray jasper]

origin

[lunar dawn]

then should be C:/Program Files (x86)/Origin Games/Battlefield V

thats the default directory