technology

[pale quartz]

no, I mean developed in house

[sacred dove]

because Squadrons and Jedi Fallen Order were developed at the same time

[pale quartz]

if you think squadrons is a competitor to jedi fallen order you haven't played the game

[sacred dove]

but battlefront 2, a game with essentially no single player, is a competitor?

[pale quartz]

... yes because it's a multiplayer focused title lol

[sacred dove]

jedi fallen order is multiplayer focused?

did you forget your own argument

it looks like you did

[wintry prairie]

Battlefront is basically Battlefield in space. They launch on different schedules because of this.

[sacred dove]

this, thank you

[pale quartz]

no, I didn't, battlefront 2 is a multiplayer focused game - EAs biggest launches are multiplayer focused, jedi fallen order is also one of EAs biggest launches

[sacred dove]

i already said that but ty HK

[pale quartz]

so it went right over your head what the original point was

[sacred dove]

:/

[pale quartz]

it had nothing to do with it being single player or not from the beginning

[sacred dove]

i know that

[wintry prairie]

So Battlefield and Battlefront are competing each other.

[sacred dove]

ty

[mild bough]

Anyone knows how to bypass "Access Denied" when trying to change priority in task manager? Tried launching as administrator and didn't work. Used to work before, but not now

[pale quartz]

no because there hasn't been a battlefront launch in 4 years lol

[sacred dove]

🙃

[pale quartz]

and the game back then didn't launch anywhere close to battlefront

[wintry prairie]

Squadrons and Fallen order are not in the same category.

[wintry prairie]

Which proves my point.

[pale quartz]

please start actually reading

like seriously

[sacred dove]

battlefront 3 wouldn't either, it could easily release 2 years from now. why not?

[pale quartz]

why not? because EA would have announced a sequel to the franchise was in the works by now

[sacred dove]

omfg

lmfao

[wintry prairie]

I don't think there will be a Battlefront 3

[sacred dove]

i give up

[sacred dove]

yes we KNOW that lol

[pale quartz]

ok, give up, nice seeing you

[toxic wigeon]

Hey sorry to break the convo up but I sorta need to leave this before sleep so if I can get an answer later that's fine.
When it comes to updating a b550 bios board cpu-less, can any flash drive be used for updating it or do you need a 32 bit M FLASH drive?
Plus do you need to rename the file that updates the BIOS or can it work as is?

[pale quartz]

not sure where this is going

[sacred dove]

i already said that, TO deco

incredible

[pale quartz]

no, you didnt

not sure if you actually bothered reading the original point and this

clearly not

they are entirely different things

[sacred dove]

this

[wintry prairie]

Oh shoot, late for meeting, bbl.

[sacred dove]

this

[sacred dove]

don't leave me with this i beg you

[pale quartz]

clearly you don't have a clue about how game development schedule works if you think it's going to launch in 2 years from no announcement, infact I'm not sure where in narnia you got this idea from

games are multi year development projects

they can't just release something in 2 years, especially a multi million dollar budget franchise like a battlefront 3

[sacred dove]

i know it won't launch in 2 years. that was a hypothetical

[toxic wigeon]

It'd be a good idea to move on from the topic since this is going nowhere

[pale quartz]

yes it was a totally awful and bad hypothetical

[pale quartz]

^

[sacred dove]

:/

[pale quartz]

you don't need a 32 bit m flash drive

what you do need is a USB with the right file format

FAT32 99% likely

format it to that it'll update fine

[toxic wigeon]

Got it!

And the bios update file itself, I don't need to touch it at all. It can work from the get go no problem at all?

[pale quartz]

other than renaming it yes

that part you'll need to do

do that drag it over and you're done

[toxic wigeon]

What will it need to be renamed to

[pale quartz]

it'll be covered in the update actual zip file

[toxic wigeon]

Oh

Lol

[pale quartz]

readme note most likely

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[pale quartz]

or in the update logs changes both probably

[toxic wigeon]

So just format any flash drive to Fat32, get file in it and follow instructions. That's all?

[pale quartz]

yup that's all

[pale quartz]

name will most likely be on the page itself like this for the file

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

[pale quartz]

Asus includes an autorenamer, not sure about other manufacturers

[toxic wigeon]

I'm going on that MSI a pro board, back to what I originally set but yeet

Sounds easy for Asus

[pale quartz]

you'll be fine something goes wrong can just endlessly usb flashback till it works

[toxic wigeon]

I was thinking, I did hear that the boards can't support the 5000 series because they didn't have enough room for support

Well, that's what I took out of it

And I'm guessing it's incredibly difficult to screw up a mobo

[pale quartz]

other way round

[toxic wigeon]

Just don't remove the power cables mid update

[pale quartz]

they don't support ryzen 1000, ryzen 5000 is supported right out the box for b550

you won't actually need to update a thing

[toxic wigeon]

What?

[pale quartz]

yeah BIOS flash limitations dropped support for ryzen 1000 series chips and basically anything lower, b550 runs r5000 right out the gate

no bios updates necessary

[quick locust]

^

You only need to on older chipsets

[toxic wigeon]

...you know I was thinking of getting a cheap second hand 1600 for the sake of updating LOL.

[pale quartz]

yeah you don't need to do that lmao

b550/x570 both support ryzen 5000 natively so you'll boot right away

[pale quartz]

anything on b350-x470 requires the bios upgrade ^

[toxic wigeon]

This is just weird

But that makes a bit of sense

[pale quartz]

welcome to the lurky landmine of AMD cross support

now if you're wanting to upgrade to the 5800x3d that will require a bios upgrade, but cross that bridge when you get to it

[toxic wigeon]

Let's keep it simple shall we

[pale quartz]

well yeah the bios for it kind of doesn't exist yet either

[sacred dove]

yep still an excellent gaming cpu and will be for a while
i'd say it competes with 3700x

[toxic wigeon]

I wanted my first CPU to be a 10700k but when I heard 5800x I thought yes then to 5600x even more yes.

[pale quartz]

tldr just install the chip boot it up you're good to go way

might be worth actually updating the bios after it though, security vulnerability reasons

[toxic wigeon]

I'll be on my way

You could have said that!

Ye

Get everything up to date

Make the os drive

[pale quartz]

it's pretty straightforward once the chip installs, you won't have any particular issues

literally just more or less the exact same thing as usb flashback except you can update it using a UI

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

One thing I realised is that disc drives are becoming less and less common

[pale quartz]

yeah they've been dead for like over 5 years now

[toxic wigeon]

Such a shame too

[pale quartz]

primary reason is discs are slow af and easy to break on the actual laser

secondary reason was that they take up a massive amount of space internally

[quick locust]

I still have one

But don't use it much since theres not much reason to

[sacred dove]

yeah haven't bought one since 2011

[pale quartz]

your CD drive is as old as your 8700k

[quick locust]

😛

[proud trellis]

Does anyone know if the blue yeti is worth getting ? I'm looking to get a new mic as this is one i have now is a bit broken, every now and then the volume mixer basically just goes all the way down to the point where my mic is basically just muted, and this happens on its own like 2 times a day and its just irritating and im looking to upgrade a few things for my setup anyway as i have some spare money. I've looked all around and the blue yeti is the only one that really appeals to me for some reason and also the price isn't really bad, but just checking if you guys think its worth getting to before i do buy it

if there are any other mics you guys think is suitable for gaming and isn't stupidly priced (around £100) please feel free to send the link so i can have a look :))

[storm osprey]

is the one messing up the fifine?

[proud trellis]

i wouldn't say "messing up" but from a lot of use over time 🙂

[wintry prairie]

I have three of them. I really like them. 👍

[vagrant epoch]

Anybody having issues with the mouse while playing on PC?. I have to constantly change my DPI when playing from time to time

[storm osprey]

you shouldnt ever change your dpi, pick a dpi (imo at least 800), and then only change in game sensitivity

[vagrant epoch]

yea I normally do it from the mouse software app

[storm osprey]

yea dont change it from there either

[vagrant epoch]

I normally do that and have custom dpi for each game and do not have an issue except for this game

[storm osprey]

changing dpi also changes the input delay of your mouse, let alone constantly changing the dpi just means you dont get used to a specific one

thats backwards imo

[vagrant epoch]

ok I will give that a shot

[storm osprey]

hell id probably say thats just outright backwards

[vagrant epoch]

it always worked for me. I guess I am built different

lol

[storm osprey]

theres a difference between working and being the best though

i can play just fine using a super fast sensitivity, doesnt mean that i wont play better with a slow sensitivity

[pale quartz]

I've got the blue yeti X, it's very good

[humble iris]

I have a Yeti Pro. It's nice because it has USB, or XLR true Stereo (Dual/XLR) has 3 condenser capsules and several different modes, Cardioid, Stereo, Omni-Directional, and Bi-Directional. I've had for several years.

[prime jasper]

[lunar dawn]

120/140mm

on a full tower

[prime jasper]

12 fans

[lunar dawn]

there was a leak saying that respawn started the development but rn dice is focused on 2042

[prime jasper]

Is your pc providing heater performance?

[lunar dawn]

3090+i9 9900ks ... you tell me

[prime jasper]

That is a good heater

The 3090 radiates more heat than an open BBQ at this point

And the 9900ks well

Yea

[quick locust]

lol

it doesn't radiate much heat

small surface area

[prime jasper]

Well

A lot of built up heat is bad

[lunar dawn]

280 watts from cpu and 450 from gpu

[lofty light]

I've been looking into the AYA NEO series as the Steam Deck is a long way out (and not an easy thing to get in AUS), anyone had experience with them?

[lunar dawn]

i think ltt did 3-4 videos about it but anyway isnt the steam deck supposed to release in 1 month

[lofty light]

Releasing slowly to preorder people

[lunar dawn]

alright anyway i d wait to see the price for performance difference

also the aya neo costs more iirc

[prime jasper]

Jesus help us

You now could oc ur card for a space heater

Throw away your current heater. Who needs a space heater when you have a pc that warms your room with 700+ watts

[quick locust]

lol

Mine heats a bit tooo

Though nothing compared to actual heating

[mild bough]

Just ordered the SSD @prime jasper, I guess we'll find out if my PC will be any faster

[prime jasper]

Trust me, you wont regret an SSD as it is crucial to your system

[mild bough]

Yeah I hope that aswell

[gusty plaza]

can anyone tell me why HDR is greyed out in on positon? I want to turn it off. TY

[lunar dawn]

does your monitor support it?

and second if it is perhaps you can enable/disable it in the monitor settings

[prime ore]

did you get an M.2 NMVe one or a sata?

[mild bough]

M.2 NMVe @prime ore

[prime ore]

noice

that's great

[mild bough]

Yeah

Fairly cheap aswell

about 100 bucks give or take a few

[prime ore]

both are fast but m.2's are even faster, I got a 1tb m.2 drive for 80 bucks

euro*

from samsung but I never checked if it had cache

[mild bough]

aaa

wdym by cache

[prime ore]

confusing stuff, not too important, if you want to know more about it you should just google it lol

[mild bough]

only cache i know is a csgo map hahah

still not sure on how to transfer the windows os to the ssd disk though

no idea whether i can just drag it over to the ssd hahah

[storm osprey]

DRAM?

[prime ore]

yeah that'll be quite the chore and if you don't do it right you loose all your data, it means reinstalling windows so you'll have to make a backup and put all your files on a drive, can be your hard drive that you already have but i wouldn't recommend. You will need to download windows from their website and put it on a USB stick and then get your old key or buy a new one and activate it in settings, then you can download all the updates and reinstall your games/programmes.

[mild bough]

mygod sounds wayy too complicated

ahahahha

[pale quartz]

you cannot (technically) do this

it is possible to mirror your drive onto your NVMe and reassign boot priority, but I'd advise just factory installing it

[pearl lava]

It says battlefield 1 revolution is included in ea play

Does it mean when subscription ends you still keep the game

[quick locust]

no

you dont

[vast helm]

[lunar dawn]

m.2 can ne both sata or nvme btw

wilth all different form factors like 2280 etc

anyway nvme is the best one ofc

[lunar dawn]

you can but imo its just esier to reinstall also can cause less bugs

[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fnXsmXzphI

[prime jasper]

[humble iris]

The best most effective way to do this, is to image the drive, and restore it to the new drive. I currently use Macrium Reflect 8 (they have a free version) to do this. You can also browse this image like a drive, or even run the image in a VM in case you need to reference something. However if you don't have a large amount of programs and files that you need to keep, I would just do as Deco said and install a new OS which the best way to start a new SSD.

[humble iris]

No when your membership expires you will no longer be able to play, unless you buy the perpetual copy, or renew EA Play subscription.

[quick locust]

Half optane

[lofty light]

👀

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1488784339366256640?t=kBoSHVN8EBFHCzyXHYQu0A&s=19

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz)

AMD preparing Radeon RX 6X50XT refresh for June/July, RX 6500 non-XT expected in May
https://t.co/jhGkEYds9S

Twitter · Feb 2, 2022, 8:00 AM

rx 6500 non XT

how slow will it be

🐌

[midnight crypt]

just wait until they go even further and release a gt1030 equivalent

[prime jasper]

Cant wait to see how much hate amd gets with the non xt 6500

But in all seriousness, i’d like to see the refreshed cards

[prime jasper]

I can't decide on a new processor.

[quick locust]

Budget and use?

[prime jasper]

My budget is about $800 for gaming and using tools like hashcat

I was thinking the amd ryzen 7 5800x at first but seeing people talk about temp issues.

[raw turtle]

are you upgrading on an AMD platform

and don’t worry about temp issues

idk why it runs hot but with any competent cooler it’s fine

AMD can run at 85c and walk away fine

[prime jasper]

@raw turtle building a new system was thinking the Asus ROG strix x570-e

[raw turtle]

how to build a ryzen pc in 2022:
Step 1: Don’t

Step 2: Look at how much better intel prices are and how they are out performing AMD for cheaper

Step 3: buy intel

done

[prime jasper]

I have an Intel build I'm currently using and want to do an amd now

[raw turtle]

comical way of saying that intel is a better choice

you can go ahead and build one… but it’s a waste of money considering how intel has better offerings in every way at this point

[quick locust]

Yeah intel has better value right now... surprisingly

[prime jasper]

If they were equal value Intel, and amd cpu's which would be better in your opinion.

[eager whale]

Well well well, how the turn tables

[supple bane]

that depends on way too many thing

depends on what you need it for really

[lone sable]

Exactly, you can't just say 'This is better', you need to understand someone's needs before you can say A or B

I bought an Intel CPU for the faster cores for Maya, but i am not using Maya anymore. Lately i have been using Unreal Engine 4 a lot where an AMD cpu comes in nicely because it has more cores to work on compiling a lot of shaders

[quick locust]

Right now Alder Lake is better except if you need TR amount of threads

Except for decompression/compression

[prime jasper]

Amd still wins in that department

[quick locust]

Yeah, only area they hold rn

[prime jasper]

Yep sadly

Well

Until zen 4 comes out

[sacred dove]

yeah intel is really 10%ing the fight against 18-month-old Ryzens, agreed

[lunar dawn]

only 12th gen is better

and after 12 the gen release amd price dropped a little bit

the 5600x is around 265 dollars now and the 12600k is usually around 280-300

that said the 12600k is way better

[raw turtle]

not sure what causes that but even intel is edging out AMD in basically all workstation tasks

[raw turtle]

yes… and only 12th gen should be bought

[raw turtle]

“____ is an older CPU” okay? intel still beats it with current offerings. no matter what’s on the table i’ll buy the best available to me and everyone else and that would be intel. AMD nor intel is dying/dead, but intel currently has the market in their hands at the moment. 🤷‍♂️

[sacred dove]

and it works on your 6-year-old mobo

[lunar dawn]

more like 4yo

x370 can support a 5600x and its from 2017

and also mobos for am4 are cheaper

[sacred dove]

2017 is 5 years ago but still

wish we could react comments here instead of wasting space and time typing out how much we agree on things

[sacred dove]

i'm definitely glad intel is competitive to the point of pushing out AMD performance-wise. i just hadn't heard it was now competitive price-wise after factoring in mobo and cooling costs

[cosmic prairie]

Anyone have information as to why BF 2042 crashes when OBS is open?

[midnight crypt]

your pc probably cant handle it

[cosmic prairie]

@midnight crypt Was able to handle it no issue last week, ive tried several steps read online and cannot figure out why its happening.

DX Hung issue, error like that

[prisma anvil]

I recommend getting the non k series intel alderlake sku with B660mobo, low power draw like ryzen and around the same or better performance.

that being said I just chose a 10850k + z590 over 12400f + b660 for my friend

cause they cost the same. I got an amazing bundle on that 10850k

[prisma anvil]

exactly

I actually wrote a list consist of 12400f b660 prime p asus and some cheap ddr4 ripjaws as the go to

I crossed out the newegg supplier to amazon and bestbuy. That's the only thing I changed 🤣

I scored a 2080 super for 500 USD

gonna oc it past a 3060ti

[sacred dove]

👀

why would anyone sell it so low sheeeesh

must have had to make rent

[prime jasper]

Ayyy grats man

[solar kestrel]

might finally be upgrading my gpu from a Gt 1030 to a RX 5700 XT

[jade quail]

Could always be the oven trick

I don't believe in good deals

[prime jasper]

that bad huh?

[prime jasper]

Man I was hoping you guys would shill me on ryzen

[marsh gull]

i mean amd has good gpus

[prime jasper]

I was thinking of a AMD cpu nvidia gpu combo

But guess I'll look into the newer Intel cpu's

[pale quartz]

there is one consideration for ryzen

and that's if you're wanting zen3d

or any ryzen 9 part, if not use get ADL (not a 12900k)

[prime jasper]

Dang I gotta wait till spring 😔

[dry pike]

@pale quartz regarding your error log. Pretty sure it's EAC related. I would look at the ProcessID in the errorlog just to be sure. Not sure what you stack traced.

[pale quartz]

dw i know where the problem is, isnt a EAC issue, is a vcore phasing failure

[dry pike]

It was dc3a3596-71e1-45a3-b2ea-39ad5322fe51 right?

[toxic wigeon]

So what do AIO coolers offer that others don't?

I watched a pc building video out of curiosity and the man replaced the front fan with it which I thought was more convenient for space.

[molten coral]

There isn't much difference tbh, air coolers are excellent these days.

[toxic wigeon]

Ye. Seems to be a two in one deal. Get an extra fan with a cooler but you may as well just get the cooler

Just seems less bulkier

[quick locust]

AIOs 240mm and bigger are better than most air coolers

And gotten pretty cheap too

[molten coral]

If I would get a new CPU cooler I would get this https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07WSDLRVP/ref=sr_1_3?crid=O5A3MITFZHXT&keywords=Arctic+Liquid+Freezer+II+240&qid=1643906629&sprefix=arctic+liquid+freezer+ii+240%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3

[toxic wigeon]

I'm not changing up as a whole I'm just super curious

Ahhh

[molten coral]

or the 360 version

[quick locust]

Pretty good

[storm osprey]

in general aios take longer to get to max temperature, are generally quieter, but if an aio fails its at the very least as annoying as an air cooler failing to fix, and at worst it leaks and destroys other components (not common at all, but it is a thing) and aios typically dont have a way to refill the liquid, so there is technically a certain point where an aio just wont work. air coolers are simple so they either work or they dont, they get to max temp faster and are roughly the same price as an aio

[toxic wigeon]

Yeet

Fair enough

And if it comes to it I can just replace the front fans

[storm osprey]

what are you takling about front fans in regards to an AIO?

[toxic wigeon]

For better ones but I bet the stock lian li fans are already very good

Uhhh

Yeah, I thought it was cool them replacing the front fan of their case with the aio

Very convenient as a whole

[storm osprey]

oh, so they used the front intake on their case for their aio? that typically leads to worse gpu thermals

[toxic wigeon]

Ahhh

Makes sense

Sorta

What's the point of mounting your gpu vertically?

Or on its side

[storm osprey]

aesthetics, typically thermals get worse since most cases will push the fans too close to the glass panel

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I was thinking wtf is the point of that if the fans blow against the case

[quick locust]

Yeah wouldn't recommend for air cooled gpus

It's just looks

[lunar dawn]

or 420

(i own one)

pretty cheap for rad size and performance

[lunar dawn]

that said usually gpu is cooler than the cpu so if you also have bottom intake is fine

[storm osprey]

yea but gaming performance is largely based on gpu, so getting that optimal makes the most sense

[proud trellis]

nyphon, are you good with mics ? and specifically the blue yeti mic ? im looking for a new mic and the blue yeti is the only one that sticks out to me but just want to get your acceptance first :))

@storm osprey

[storm osprey]

nah i dont follow mics much anymore, either a modmic for convenience, or a fifine k699 for desktop budget

[molten coral]

I like my Rode NT-USB

[proud trellis]

i was also looking at rode

lemme have a look at the NT

[molten coral]

Don't think you can go wrong with either of the 2

[cursive ermine]

60 fps with rx 6600 xt and i5 10400f on low settings

🔥

[proud trellis]

if i was to go for the rode, would i need an amp or anything ?

or is it because its USB i wont need one at all ?

[molten coral]

You won't need one

[proud trellis]

ahh perfect

[molten coral]

Just do a bit of research I would say

[proud trellis]

i will do some research but its probs gonna be either the Blue Yeti or the Rode NT, both around the £100 mark which is my budget tbh

[molten coral]

I do have a rode mic arm so I don't use the stand on the Rode

[proud trellis]

speaking of which, do you also have to get the Rode boom arm specifically or can it be attached to any boom arm ?

[molten coral]

They all should work, the industry uses standardized mounts.

[storm osprey]

blue yeti and rode are 100 bucks? i wonder how much a basic XLR setup would cost

[molten coral]

My next setup will be XLR, but an XLR setup isn't super cheap.

[proud trellis]

what is XLR lol ?

[storm osprey]

you know, idk what XLR stands for...

back when i was doing mic research at a certain price it didnt make sense to get a USB mic because you could get a budget XLR setup that was just way better

[proud trellis]

ahh

[storm osprey]

an XLR setup requires a mic and an audio interface though, so its not as simple as just plugging in a usb and being on your way

[proud trellis]

so is that why the GOXLR is a thing

[pale quartz]

yeah the issue is agnostic of EAC, happens sporadically, not a new issue

[pale quartz]

not exactly true

infact its never been true, XLR and USB mics use the same hardware, even the same channel streams, XLR only comes out ahead if you're willing to spend a small fortune on actual studio equipment

if not there's no conceivable difference

[storm osprey]

🤷 idk what the price point was that it was better to go to XLR than usb

[pale quartz]

this has always been a false myth in the audiophile scene so people can justify their $500 purchases lmao, you won't notice a diff either way don't believe the hearsay

[storm osprey]

thats why i personally default to modmic for convenience and fifine k699 whenever recommending people just using a discord and casual steaming

[pale quartz]

what matters most is the microphone, not if it's XLR or USB

and that's always been the truth

same elitist arguments happen for RJ45 and 8p8c has always been total nonsense

[storm osprey]

i cant refer to the videos ive watch to compare the differences considering when i watched them was some yeaaars ago, but i could hear a difference

was it drastic? no, was it worth the price difference? highly doubt it

granted i do have a schiit stack and 6xx, and even with youtube compression theres a difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEpPyTu2Ubk

eh just checked this random video to see if i can hear a difference, i could

[lunar dawn]

depends on games

on csgo for example a new cpu can give you 200+ fps (example ryzen 3600 vs 5600x)

there are games that are cpu bottlenecked

even 2042

[storm osprey]

that doesnt mean your performance isnt largely based on gpu still

2042 and like... a handful of other examples doesnt change that

[lunar dawn]

i mean you re right but if your cpu bottlenecked getting a new gpu wont improve fps basically

thats what i mean

[storm osprey]

good thing the topic isnt upgrading a gpu

[humble iris]

The biggest difference for me is size, weight on the board, and accessibility to components. It's way faster and easier to reapply TIM, swap RAM, and there is no weight stress on the motherboard. I have not used an air cooler on my own personel PC since 2010, but have installed several on other's PCs. My last air cooler was a Zalman 9900 CNPS

[quaint topaz]

Very happy with my Quadcast for casual gaming and zoom meetings.

I needed a solution which offered live feedback, my best bet was to get the quadcast, which conveniently was on a good sale.

[humble iris]

I partly agree with you on this.
If you are just using it as communication mic, then yeah. but if you are using it on DAC with preamps, mixer, low latency, etc.. This is why I chose the Yeti Pro, it has both USB, and XLR. If you are not trying to get Pro sound then the USB is fine, If you want to make music recordings then the XLR is where it's at using proper interface with low latency and preamps.

[humble iris]

Yeti Pro has both USB, and XLR. Best of both worlds

Also if you want to use the mic on a stand that USB cable will be too short, and introducing a longer USB, or USB extension will cause issues. With XLR you can have 100' if you want, I'm using 20' XLR stereo right now to connect to my interface. My mic is above my head. But I do more then just Discord.

[storm osprey]

yall should be telling ice this..

[humble iris]

The main thing is I do not use any USB audio what so ever. My 2 audio devices are PCIe, and Firewire via PCIe.

[undone sandal]

I got a tech question for the lurkers in this chat.

I have a $3000 computer with a 5800x and 3080, the game runs on ultra 100 fps pretty constant

when i move my mouse

the movement is extremely choppy

but the fps stays constant

no frame drops

whats my issue

the background constantly stays normal its only my movement

[humble iris]

Check that GAME DVR in windows is turned off, also check that shadow play is turned off. Check CPU usage during game play

[undone sandal]

ok

what is shadow play

@humble iris

[wet notch]

nvidia program

used to record video

[undone sandal]

when i press alt z all of the recording stuff is turned off

is that what you mean

so those settings were off and windows dvr is off, cpu stays at about 65% while playing

issue still occurs

[humble iris]

Go to windows Settings >> Gaming >> Captures, and turn that off as well

[undone sandal]

just checked, it is off

[humble iris]

Hmm... it may be a mouse or USB issue, USB is notorious for shared issues, try another USB port, also try wired vs wireless

[undone sandal]

i figured it out

my guitar hero controller was plugged in

im suprised it wouldve let me play with it

lol

[wet notch]

lol

[humble iris]

yeah, I would try things like that

Guitar Hero controller is actually an audio device

[undone sandal]

i have an adapter on it

its the wii one

i use it for clone hero

[humble iris]

I have the XBOX one it sucks really bad, like a minute of latency

I'm an actual player, I cannot play guitar hero cause it's not o latency and throws off the timing way to bad

[undone sandal]

the wii one works well for me

gotcha

[humble iris]

I would start by swapping USB, and such

there is a program that shows what ports are being shared and whats an actual root hub so as well

[humble iris]

That's a good video.

[pale quartz]

windows 10 or 11?

[undone sandal]

11

i have the amd chipset update tho

for the scheduler

[pale quartz]

sec

one thing you're missing

@undone sandal win key + X open CMD as admin execute bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off  reboot stuttering should go away

[undone sandal]

ight

[humble iris]

pull the ram out of the sockets, and put the sockets back on the board, install ram

[vast valley]

Big yikes. Lmao

[prime jasper]

Ou

[digital hill]

Ah time to get out a youtube tutorial on how to resolder sockets

[prime jasper]

Time to get a new mobo

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYvXx6x3AKc

[robust socket]

Hey, any Gaming laptop under $1000?

[midnight crypt]

i wonder what google is

[prime jasper]

Dont be rude lol

[cursive ermine]

Help i overclocked my 60hz monitor and now cant get out of the error message that says the frequency is too high

[supple bane]

Then put it back to 60?

[cursive ermine]

How tho

Its just black screen with the error

Cant change it in windows lol

[supple bane]

I dont know much about overclocking monitors

But i know its pointlessly risky

[cursive ermine]

Hm

[supple bane]

What did you put it to?

What refresh rate?

[cursive ermine]

75 hz

[supple bane]

Afaik thats wayyyyyyy too high

[cursive ermine]

Hmm

[supple bane]

Most can only do an extra few hz

[cursive ermine]

Im tryna enter safe mode rn

[mild bough]

where do i install my ssd

got a msi b360i gaming pro ac (MS-7B31) motherboard

[quick locust]

Sata connector or m.2 connector?

[mild bough]

Kingston NV1 NVMe M.2 SSD 1TB

is the ssd

[quick locust]

Then top m.2 slot

[mild bough]

Where is that?

[quick locust]

The itx version right?

Right over the long steel pcie slot

[prime jasper]

put it in the m.2 slot

[mild bough]

ohh

so i dont install it in the back

[prime jasper]

no no its right there

insert the ssd with the pcie connector facing the shiny slot

[quick locust]

The rear slot is more annoying to get to

And on chipset lanes iirc

[prime jasper]

why would u use rear slot anyways

unless your gpu is huge

and u got no clearance

i.e. 3080/3090

[quick locust]

Because its an itx board

Not much space

Pretty common there

https://media.tenor.co/videos/92cf4be38cbff2ddbd90f3eb7fc53092/mp4

[mild bough]

Lol

I got it installed

So goddamn tight

Now the voyage on installing Windows on the SSD

no idea how lol

[quick locust]

[prime jasper]

ok ngl thats kinda impressive

beating out the m1 pro

[quick locust]

also quite efficient

more than AMD

[prime jasper]

impressive

im still gonna buy an m1 air this year for college

transitioning from 12 years of windows to mac

[quick locust]

MacOS is pretty nice

[prime jasper]

i just hope i can run windows 10/11 arm natively sooner rather than later on m1

if i ever needed to do so

also the ntfs read only limitation sounds like a drag when using ntfs formatted hard drives

[prime jasper]

Its nice to see intel taking to performance crown again

[quick locust]

yes, competition is good

hope AMD hit back hard

[prime jasper]

7000 is gonna be killer

If theres no competition, companies can price their products how they like

Its disgusting

[prime jasper]

has intel beat apple in terms of perf per watt?

[quick locust]

almost

[prime jasper]

Not quite there yet

[raw turtle]

hard to compete on perf per watt with arm

[lost cargo]

I have a question?

So my next issue is how to fix green flickering every time I shoot I update everything and uninstalled and reinstalled the game and drivers are fully updated with windows updates too…

[prime jasper]

Any one getting lag and rubberbanding on PS5?

[floral sparrow]

i'm getting grey bars on bf anyone know a solution? (i have a screenshot but cant upload it )

[storm osprey]

Dm me image I’ll post

[digital hill]

Ah yes I love stressing up another computer to make sure the temps are fine and they are

I'm going to resell a bunch of old machines

Just gotta make sure the temps are fine and if it plays fortnite then sell it as fortnite capable

[humble iris]

I just repasted a Dell 7010 and the temps went down 25c, paste was hard as plastic. stressed it for about 10 minutes.

[digital hill]

Ah eeh I just don't want to deal with that the machine seems fine as it's just an a10 apu

Might be repasted by how good the temps are

67c on cpu and for gpu 49c but that's the worse case scenario as both of those were 100% usage

[humble iris]

or just good paste, Dell is trash, the paste job was bad, I had to dig it out of the socket even. good thing it was dry like plastic, it came right out. "Dude Never Get A Dell"

[humble iris]

67c load ?

[digital hill]

100%

was stressing the cpu and gpu at the same time

That what I meant by worst case scenario

[humble iris]

it's not too bad, is it a manufactured PC?

[digital hill]

Yep an hp pavilion 500 series

[humble iris]

yeah thats good temp for that

[digital hill]

Though I dunno if I should spend money on an ssd though that would make it snappy

and could be easier to sell maybe lose like 20-30 bucks of profit

[humble iris]

I put an NVMe on a 13 year PC yesterday and it worked, was getting good speeds too. PCIe 2.0, but much faster then SATA. However cannot boot or OS on it.

[wraith sky]

My GPU temp is 30C right now.

[humble iris]

mine is 27c

[wraith sky]

CPU is a bit higher

[humble iris]

wait I lied

My CPU is 27, GPU is 30

[wraith sky]

Nice, what's the ambient temp?

[humble iris]

cpu just dropped to 26

my toes are a bit cold

[wraith sky]

Ambient temp?

[humble iris]

probably 65f

[wraith sky]

Ah, your delta is higher than mine

[humble iris]

my max temps are around 40/42 on cpu, and 62 GPU

[wraith sky]

My GPU max temp is around 45

[humble iris]

what you have 100% fan going?

[wraith sky]

Fans are slow, super quiet, on the rads.

[humble iris]

I'm running fairly quiet fan settings. 30% on GPU, and smart on CPU, and case, some set at around 60% 800-900rpm

[wraith sky]

Nice! I love a quiet PC.

[humble iris]

considering most of my PC is as old as 7+ years I'd say not to bad.

[digital hill]

damn the hp isn't using the standard phillips

[wraith sky]

Yeah my older PC is much cooler, and quiet. 🙂

[digital hill]

it's using torx to hold it in so no ssd

[humble iris]

all of my fans are stock corsair 760t fans, and a couple others. but are original old fans

[humble iris]

whats wrong with torx?

[digital hill]

@humble iris I don't have any tool to open it up

[humble iris]

you can get a cheap set at walmart or harbor freight

[digital hill]

Still weird why they require a different tool other then philips

[digital hill]

I'll see if my stepdad has the tool

[fallen harbor]

i have a question i doubt anybody will know how to answer but ill ask just un case
for context my pc has an i5 8400 and dual channel 16gb ram 2666mhz with windows installed in a kingston 240gb ssd
for a couple of weeks ive been living in my cousin's apartment to take care of the place and his cats while he's on vacations
his pc has a ryzen 5 3600, dual channel ram 3200mhz, with windows installed in a kingston 480gb ssd
but his pc is slower, like, not notoriously slower for the average user in one go I'd say, it's on little things, but consistent. Like for example switching from server to server on discord takes 1 full second which, as I said, not notorious for most people, but it becomes notorious after days of usage, especially after I went back to my pc some days recently and noticed it's a lot faster
switching between discord servers is just one example, but it happens in internet browsers too
and in plain windows folders too
and with opening archives etc etc
like, it never freezes, but it takes a bit longer to open or switch everything
and i was wondering why that could be
my gpu is an rx590 and his is a gtx1650 but i dont think that matters

[solar kestrel]

would a 550 watt psu be good enough for a 3060 and an i-5 10400f

[fallen harbor]

my guess is yes

but you can check here

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

[solar kestrel]

preciate it

[fallen harbor]

np

[sacred dove]

performance mode fortnite is like 1.3GB vram usage

[sacred dove]

could be plenty of things. is it fully updated? hdd usage too high? weird windows power settings for some reason?

has it been shut down entirely and restarted recently?

[fallen harbor]

is it fully updated?
not sure actually, gonna check now

hdd usage too high?
no

weird windows power settings for some reason?
I checked that today and didnt find anything weird, although im no expert

i just put it in the default balanced power plan

huh what

this gotta be wrong too

idc about w11 and i dont have that but this pc should meet the requirements and beyond for w11

downloading latest w10 update rn

[sacred dove]

that can pop up even in systems that do meet requirements. source: happened to me and i still installed w11 with no other changes that same day

[wraith sky]

I personally would not install Win 11, yet.

[sacred dove]

yeah i don't recommend it

it's definitely just fine

but that's not worth the trouble to sidegrade to

[wraith sky]

👍

[digital hill]

Damn it only has 1gb of vram well off to say it's roblox capable

[grizzled tulip]

Yeah, not great

[sacred dove]

Borderlands 2 maybe

without HD texture pack

[digital hill]

Eeh I need something popular to sell it quicker for the price I want

[wraith sky]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[digital hill]

Hmmm I could still say fortnite capable but put in small disclaimer "may not be able to handle 1080p and all were tested with 720p resolution"

[sacred dove]

that's pretty much fraudulent

i wouldn't share that here

not excusing you defrauding people, but i will say nobody should be buying a "fortnite capable" refurbished PC. they should just get a $100 Xbox One

[raw turtle]

you're gonna need to enable TPM 2.0 and secure boot and have a GPT formatted boot drive

also win 11 is perfectly fine

performance issues are fixed and have been fixed for many months now

[fallen harbor]

ic

[digital hill]

That's true

I do have a lot of i3's which most likely just gonna lot them for 50 each

Since they don't have gpu's and are igpu not gonna deal with seeing which i3 is better just gonna lot it for 50 each

[humble iris]

I can't stand seeing this type of ad, it's like trash to me. Super Powerful Beast Computer for sale. i3 system.

I would much rather see something like: i3-2120 computer, it's not a gaming machine, but can play older games, office tasks, and internet things.

It's a good honest opinion about what you are selling, you might even get more hits that way.

[fallen harbor]

woah woah wait

youre telling me vendors manipulate the consumerbase to make them buy things that they dont need or are worse than they think?

thats a lot to take in

omg

[quick locust]

Always nice with unreliable drivers

[prime jasper]

[lunar dawn]

tbf new i3s are really good

that old i3 no lol

the new i3 (i3 12100)can beat the ryzen 9 3990x in most cases

[celest minnow]

If you run that health check from the popup it will tell you exactly what the problem is, it's likely TPM, but it could be something else. <shrugs> Why guess tho, the tool will tell you exactly why it's failing.

[sacred dove]

didn't tell me anything

[lost cargo]

how to fix green flickering every time I shoot I update everything and uninstalled and reinstalled the game and drivers are fully updated with windows updates too…

[proud trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-actor-coughing-gif-10186827

nyphon

[opaque saddle]

I know some people might use RGBW "UHD" TV as their PC monitor. That said, it has 2880x2160 pixels (4:3, while having a 16:9 shape and output) with valid R, G or B pixels on screen.

[lone sable]

Fuck, i feel attacked

[quick locust]

then use BGR monitor

[humble iris]

For sure. fully agree. and price is good as well. But those used PC sellers always leave out the part that matters (i3-WHAT) usually means it's it's a i3-220 1st gen. I have only owned 1 i3 in my life, a laptop i3-330m. in 2010 and that's because I couldn't find one with an i5, still have it too.

[humble iris]

I don't like RGB, I just like either R, G, or B, White is kool as well. Right now it's all red. Although it would be neat to setup my GPU as Matrix to match my setup.

[storm osprey]

hmm guess ill search for a non RGB monitor, pretty sure yellow/cyan has been used before

[lunar dawn]

or get a bgr monitor

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1490543283730214916?t=Fb20sO-XPkUk2adh7VWIrA&s=19

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

WOW I haven't seen this before. The tap I use to attach the k-type (8 in total) probes for VRM temp testing, some of it melted to the Asrock B660 Pro RS. I'm about to test some MSI boards now, I wonder if they'll get as hot.

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[pale quartz]

asrock being asrock

[quick locust]

toasty

[prime jasper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/smlhzh/my_personal_guide_to_play_bf2042or_any_games

[prime jasper]

holy

[eager sun]

100% fans everywhere - useless + sounds like boeing 747 with any normal non watercooled gpu

ultimate performance power plan + prefer maximum performance - both useless + space heater when sitting idle

i think that happens when people dont know what the windows power plan and the nvidia performance setting actually do

[prime jasper]

Enlighten me ! ? ! improve the post ! I will credit you !

[quick locust]

The prefer ultimate performance thing just forces it at higher power state, but doesn't change clocks in game or under load

[eager sun]

nvidia max performance setting just sets your gpu to P0 power state all the time (really high clocks but not full boost, its like ~1800mhz for modern nvidia gpus) which means youll end up with a space heater on the desktop and as soon as you start a game the card will clock just like before and boost up to its maximum frequency so when you actually start a game there is absolutely 0 difference

[quick locust]

It just forces it to not clock down on idle

The only benefit is games that are so light they still cause no load throttle ( low pstate)

Windows power plan same issue (though it does also disable other things)

As for fans, just increase your fan curves if you want instead of 100%

[eager sun]

when i played fortnite at 1440x1080 all low i used msi afterburner to force clocks to the max frequency bcs youll just end up with ~1800mhz with the max performance setting

[prime jasper]

2 of this option make quite a smooth FPS boost for me ? please help me explain why

[quick locust]

Also you don't need nvme ssd over sata in most games

Also just use windows defender instead of bit defender

[prime jasper]

SATA 3 ?

or SATA+SSD ?

[quick locust]

Also windows licence doesn't have an impact on gaming

Just either sata 2.5 or m.2 sata, same speed

Not many games take advantage of nvme yet

[prime jasper]

i see

[quick locust]

So it is nice but not a must for games to be installed on

[eager sun]

loading times benefit a tiny tiny bit from a fast nvme ssd but you wont get any more frames

[prime jasper]

this is true

[quick locust]

2042 should put gpu in highest pstate so max performance preset shouldn't make a difference

[prime jasper]

ultimate performance power plan + prefer maximum performance << what is the best approach to this

[eager sun]

nvidia settings max performance is straight useless thats for sure

[prime jasper]

so, it will goes full performance by its own right ? under load ?

[eager sun]

yes

[prime jasper]

I see, and about the window plan ?

[eager sun]

same for the cpu so windows power plan setting also doenst have an impact on gaming clocks cpu will clock up by itself

[prime jasper]

i see

so it only improve something like windows operation

I see improvement when open folder, excel, other working apps

but not gaming

[eager sun]

maybe im not sure what it does to windows but the clock thing wont do anything when you start a game

[eager sun]

if your pc is far from being the best i might make windows more responsive bcs your cpu is sitting at a high clock speed on the desktop

[prime jasper]

@quick locust @eager sun I add you guys in the post.

[eager sun]

you dont need to do that idc i dont even use reddit

[quick locust]

Me neither

[prime jasper]

I do, you help.

[quick locust]

I don't have account

[prime jasper]

thank you both of you

🥳

[glass holly]

Best case ever used for straight through air stream cooling.. my i9 never goes above 34% no matter how much I thrash it and that is what you need.

The large fans on the front of the case pull air in, then the twin fans on the BE Quiet CPU Cooler suck that air straight through the vents cooling the CPU and then the larger fans on the rear blow that warm our out the back.... simply brilliant and much better than any liquid cooled nonsense

https://www.coolermaster.com/uk/en-gb/catalog/legacy-products/cases/haf-xb-evo/#!

[prime jasper]

I can post my setup, and it can cause trama to many.

[eager sun]

34% ?

[supple bane]

wdym it doesnt go above 34% lol

thats a huge issue if thats true

i doubt you mean 34c because thats not possible on air unless you have the cpu downclocked significantly

and the case i mean, its old as heck by the looks of it. and the few benchmarks i can see of it place it fairly below average.

[lunar dawn]

simply tried to boost your cpu too 100% all time

wich is kind of useless if its idle

[errant stratus]

why is this happening
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jJ2vIVKabHOtPLc_wp00_1RKK0PSDY2Y/view?usp=sharing

[pale quartz]

both extremely bad ideas leave them on default

[pale quartz]

no it doesn't improve anything, what windows power plan for UP does is set the minimum clock speed of the processor to the base boost clock to run at, at all times regardless of what's going on, this is an extremely bad idea which is why you should never modify power plan settings

[lunar dawn]

i mean its not an extremely bad idea its just gonna use way more power

and run at full speed ... wich it shouldnt at idle

other than being a space heater its not gonna do much

[eager sun]

theres so much false information about pc "tweaking" its insane

there are people manually setting the max amount of cores in msconfig thinking they will get more frames

[supple bane]

i know plenty of people that basically refuse to play games without changing every setting in the nvidia control panel

yet ive not seen any evidence that that does anything either

[eager sun]

its kinda different when the setting actually changes something but might not have an effect

but setting stuff that will literally not make any difference at all or even have bad side effects just hurts

[supple bane]

i guess the tldr is that software devs arent bottlenecking your pc. its best out the box basically

[pale quartz]

it isn't just a power issue

there is one additional change this does, and that's voltage amperage to the processor, and by that it goes through the roof, you're more or less putting your processor on a time watch for longevity by doing this

[pale quartz]

^ andd not actually realising this totally breaks SMT from working whatsoever

[lunar dawn]

i mean does settings actually do something

like you can enable nvidia nis from there

or the "low latency mode" that force 1 max frame in queue

[lunar dawn]

tbf i know a guy that uses it and his pc is older than mine ( 5 yo at this point), still hasnt exploded lol

[lunar dawn]

can you explain a little more im interested lol

[pale quartz]

people do not understand that this setting does not actually enable threads, it enables cores, which breaks threads from operating, so if you turn on 4 or whatever in msconfig you will in reality disable 4 threads from being used by the main OS

tldr people are stupid and don't know what they're doing with their own PC's

same goes for things like "low latency" mode and all this nonsense

[lunar dawn]

tbf low latency mode does work

but it simply reduces the max queued frame from 2 to 1

basically less fps

for lower input lag

[pale quartz]

no it doesn't, infact it can actually increase input latency if not used as intended

things are not as straightforward as people think with settings they should not be changing, LL mode is a prime example of that

[sacred dove]

The superiority complex itc is impressive

[humble iris]

I actually run Nvidia Inspector to force P8 state so my card won't run at 1280mhz all the time for no reason. card should idle about 300-GPU | 405-Mem | 540-Vid. card setting at 28c idle, there is no need for max performance unless running benchmarks. You can force full boost clock when wanting get every little bit of FPS on a benchmark. Also there is a setting in NV control panel where you set 3D settings per game, instead of global. There are plenty of "tweeks" that will gain FPS if you know what you are doing.

Also some things work better for others, no settings is best for everyone.

[sacred dove]

i mean what's wrong with just flipping windows power to performance

[humble iris]

Nothing, if you know what you are doing and why you are doing it, it's perfectly fine.

I usually setup performance plans for what I need the PC to do. Like a NAS, the HDDs need to be on at all times, and keep the PC awake, etc.. just depends on why.

running everything at 100% for global use is not good. We want our PC to perform the task at hand, and when high usage is not needed we want things to idle, and save power & heat. If everything is working as it should, your PC accelerate to accommodate the task at hand. Back in the old days we would force 100% clocks because hardware didn't have the technology to adapt to tasks.

Probably adds to longevity as well.

I mean you don't set at a stop light with your gas pedal to the floor, and for good reason, you aren't going anywhere.

I mean if you want to use MAX performance for a certain game, Use 3D settings by program in NV control panel. the settings will apply when the game is running.

NVCP >> Manage 3D Settings >> Program Settings

research and understand what each setting does so you are not just blindly turning things off and on. Like @pale quartz said some settings can make it worse if used incorrectly.

[sacred dove]

i know some who like using everything at 100% all the time

someday that behavior will be abolished though

[humble iris]

Some people leave their PC on 24/7 as well, even when not in use.

And think it's a good idea

[prime jasper]

There are people out there not knowing PC at all. if they found the list, it might help.
but it is not perfect list.

calling out others as stupid is not nice ! !
Educate and discuss like civil person is better option.

I have read all above conversation, and adjust the guide, Thank guys.

Any others in the list that should be adjust ??

[humble iris]

These are only opinions but:

Don't use Anti Virus 
Don't use Afterburner 
Don't use Dragon ?? 
Removing side cover might have adverse affect.
Intel Driver Assistant is trash. 
Leave Power Plan Alone 
NVCP should be a whole different article 

Turn on Windows Game Mode
Disable Shadow Play (GF EXP) 
Disable Windows Game captures
Turn off/on Hardware-accelerated GPU Scheduling
Turn off/on VRR ```
Again just my personal opinion.
Some of these settings will apply differently to certain hardware and windows versions.

[prime jasper]

Thank you

[humble iris]

Just remember my opinion really does not matter

Some other things that might be useful.

Make sure HDD is defragmented 
Make sure SSD is trimmed 
Use Disk Cleanup 

[prime jasper]

low latency mode does work when set to ultra

which effectively sets prerendered frames to 0

and the latency reduction works best when gpu bound

[prime jasper]

Thank you again, I will edit them in.

Think of someone with old PC, or hv no knowledge, all this can be a boost for them.

[prime jasper]

I need help

[humble iris]

It sucks because playing game to its fullest performance, and having the best experience damn near requires a PHD in Computer Science. there are no best settings for everyone, different games different hardware equals different settings, and user preference. At least for multiplayer anyway.

[prime jasper]

I need help with my ps5

[prime jasper]

lol, right .

[quick locust]

Ask your question instead of just stating that. This isn't a tech support channel though, so people might or might not be able to help

[prime jasper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/sneiad/several_ways_to_help_with_pc_optimization_and/

added and re-arrange things according to you guys, thank you.

[prime jasper]

I added a fan to my ps5 and now it's screwed

Idk what to do

[quick locust]

added a fan to it? Those 3rd party attachments?

Or the main internal fan of the ps5

[prime jasper]

I replaced the fan it came with

I used a RyDon fan im not sure if they are good or not

[quick locust]

why replace the fan?

[prime jasper]

I thought it would be better

Idk what to do

It's worse

[quick locust]

and i dont know that brand, but whatever

[prime jasper]

I already threw away the old one

Have you even heard of rydon?

[quick locust]

no

[prime jasper]

Fuck

Probably a Chinese knockoff

What now?

RyDon was apparently really good

[quick locust]

Uhh not sure if there's any replacement fans for the ps5 yet

They might be, I just don't know them

[prime jasper]

Welp

I'm screwed

What now?

[humble iris]

did the old fan not work?

[quick locust]

There's replacement fans available it seems

[prime jasper]

It worked

I thought the new one would increase cooling

and performance

I'm new to this kinda stuff

[quick locust]

it doesn't increase performance, consoles are locked in framerate and clocks

[prime jasper]

Oh

Okay

[quick locust]

and original fan is decent enough

[prime jasper]

Is RyDon a good brand @humble iris?

Oh shit

[humble iris]

I would think that Playstation would have already have a valid fan installed, if you want it to run cooler, maybe make the ambient temp cooler, put in a well ventilated area with cool fresh air.

they also have these extra fans, I doubt they do much

https://www.amazon.com/Cooling-Playstation-Cooler-Compatible-Digital/dp/B08NH8ZJNQ?th=1

[prime jasper]

Aww man

I messed up

RyDon sucks

[quick locust]

I wouldn't know if they do or not, don't have experience with them

[prime jasper]

Oh yeah?

[humble iris]

the best thing with a console is just make sure it's clean and has ventilation

[prime jasper]

Yeah

Wait

What brand did I use again?

[quick locust]

original is NIDEC or Delta

[humble iris]

pretty expensive fan

[prime jasper]

What fan did I put on my ps5

I forgot

Omg I can't remember

[humble iris]

rydon

[prime jasper]

Hahaha

You fool

Rydon my dick

[humble iris]

it looks more like a blower fan

wtf are you trolling?

do you know how to plant tulips?

[prime jasper]

Indeed good sir

[pale quartz]

calling out others as stupid is not nice
this wasn't about your list, so stop assuming it is, and frankly I don't care in what's nice, and what's not, it's a fact that the majority of the consumer base change whatever they think they see on a dime, and that makes them stupid, isn't a big deal

[prime jasper]

Wym tldr people are stupid

Too long didn't read?

[humble iris]

can you plant tulips

[prime jasper]

Yes

Not rn

It's winter

[humble iris]

plant tulips around my #$%^

[prime jasper]

Omg

Good one

Ruined it by censoring it!

[humble iris]

don't want to get banned

[prime jasper]

Dont worry

[humble iris]

so you didnt even change a fan did you?

[prime jasper]

Nope

My ps5 is ok

[humble iris]

lol

[humble iris]

Suck Mike Hawk

[prime jasper]

Still sounds dirty either way bro lol

[humble iris]

lol

[prime jasper]

dun be rude, this is how being nice .... sometime.

btw, Good morning.

[pale quartz]

I am not being rude, stop telling me I'm being rude about something when I'm just telling you a simple fact

[prime jasper]

@pale quartz anything in the list I should revise ?

[pale quartz]

...

did you ignore that I said it had nothing to do with the list

[humble iris]

I think he is just asking for your input

[pale quartz]

oh

eh I haven't read it so I don't know

[prime jasper]

no...but you are software engineer....any improvement on the list are valuable !

[pale quartz]

I'll have a look at it later on

[prime jasper]

Thank man !

[viral quest]

!rank

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-paste-cpu-motherboard-thermal-paste-cpu-cpu-thermal-paste-gif-24047580

[prime jasper]

For some weird reason this makes me hungry

[rotund sorrel]

lol

[toxic wigeon]

So what's a 3d v cache?

How is it supposed to assist with?

[dry pike]

As I understand it you do some stacking of cache chips to:
A: save space on your PCB
B: reduce latency

Seems like a good idea but increases the amount of heat in a single spot

[quick locust]

More cache, as you can stack them instead of increasing 2D size of die

you can go from 64 MB cache to 192 on AMD

Eventually you could do this with core designs as well

[dry pike]

You can in theory stack a lot of things, as long as you can keep the thermals in check 😄

[hard brook]

hi

[toxic wigeon]

So something like a noctua fan should be enough to keep it in check.

Henlo.

[dry pike]

Sure, stack 4 x Intel 12900k's into 1 chip and get one of the small Noctuas and go to town!

[rotund sorrel]

Is it just me or that looks like chocolates

[dry pike]

Everything brown is not chokolate.

[prime jasper]

I love the way these fans look

[toxic wigeon]

On the talk about Fans!
Even though the Noctua is a definite go to for a CPU cooler, What benefits does it provide over the stock 5600x cooler?

[dry pike]

More effective at the noise level / quieter at the same performance. I would not replace the stock fan on the stock cooler though - replace the entire cooler.

Also, be aware that Noctua is very good, but not necessarily the best value for money.

[toxic wigeon]

Oh I was generally talking but yeah

[toxic wigeon]

I call them the same but yeah

So generally it isn't super important but it's nice to have.

[glass holly]

34°C I meant to write, I guess people just got excited over my error

[eager sun]

your cpu is either running with 1core or you are really wrong

[supple bane]

Your cpu is certainly not running at 34c

[quick locust]

Unless idle

[storm osprey]

they said "my cpu never goes above 34c"

[quick locust]

They have 360mm radiator on G6900

Or have negative room temperature

[supple bane]

I don't even think negative room temperature would achieve that

Cuz you are at a limit of how fast heat can be pulled away from the cpu

[quick locust]

time to move a lot of stuff

[atomic jackal]

guys

do i spray the compressed air from the mesh part or from the fans if my aio is on pull config

[supple bane]

you spray it everywhere

you just get rid of dust. there is no "where do i spray"

[atomic jackal]

wont the dust fall onto the gpu though

since the aio is right on top of my gpu

[supple bane]

you just dust that after then..

[atomic jackal]

tbh fair

so i just spray air everywhere like my life depends on it

lolol

[supple bane]

is the radiator clogged up?

[atomic jackal]

nope

[supple bane]

like can you actually see any dust on it?

[atomic jackal]

i mean

there is a mesh on my pc

which kinda prevents me from seeing the radiator a lot

but no visible perfomance reducements so far

ive been using the pc since the summer of 2021

[supple bane]

dust wont reduce performance for many many years lol

you need like 10 years or more worth of dust to affect a pc.

[atomic jackal]

so how much should i wait before dusting the pc

[supple bane]

you should wait until you can see it and it bothers you.

[atomic jackal]

i mean i can see some whiteness but its not so much so that its pouring out of everywhere

[humble iris]

I usually clean my filters every month or so, I do full air clean about 1 to 2 years, and within 3 years a complete rebuild and deep clean. this all depends on how much the PC has been powered on. basically a visual inspection will tell you if it needs cleaned. Mine is ready for another rebuild, and my fans are all going bad. most of my fans are over 7 years old now.

[humble iris]

I usually vacuum the mesh, and use a microfiber or paintbrush to loosen the dust on the outside. you always dust to go away from the other components.

[atomic jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457136243617038337/940726692404662292/IMG_20220209_005135.jpg this is my setup rn

its a pull configuration by the way

so do i spray the air from above towards the radiator?

[humble iris]

Push & Pull is a fan placement on a device, Intake & Exhaust is where the air is going or coming.

[atomic jackal]

okay then its an "intake" aio

[humble iris]

So you can have a Pull / Intake, or a push intake

[atomic jackal]

how am i going to know whether its pull or push

[humble iris]

is it pulling or pushing air to the radiator

it look like a pull / intake

no it looks like pull exhaust

[atomic jackal]

its intaking air

but idk if its push or pull

[humble iris]

I don't think so

it looks like push / Exhaust to me

just like mine

[atomic jackal]

because there is no air coming from the top of the top

[humble iris]

but i'm looking at your fans

if there is no air coming out of the top then your fans are choked

[atomic jackal]

my temps are fine though

its like 50C for my cpu

which is very cool if it was choked why is it this cool

[humble iris]

your fans are pulling air in from inside the case, pushing air into radiator, and exhausting from top of case.

[atomic jackal]

bro why are you so insistent? like the pc is literally right near me

[humble iris]

set a piece of paper on top of your case and if it blows away or stick to it

I can see the setup you posted a pic

It is setup correctly by the way

[atomic jackal]

well i just knew that it was supposed to be on the top

and i placed a bit of tissue paper and it kinda floats yeah

but isnt tissue lighter than paper

[humble iris]

yes it is setup perfectly

thats an exhaust setup the best way it can be, same as mine

[atomic jackal]

man all i needed to know was whether or not i was supposed to be spraying from which side hahaha i guess thanks for the extra knowledge

so if it was an intake,would the fans be upwards?

[humble iris]

if you flip the fan it will be intake

[atomic jackal]

so it seems i have 3 intake 3 exhaust so its neutral i guess

[humble iris]

technically blow air opposite of fan, but that also blows it back into case as well

[humble iris]

hmmm well it depends, if you have an open vent somewhere it will be neutral but yeah

what case do have?

[atomic jackal]

asus gt301

[atomic jackal]

well i have an exhaust fan at the back of the case, aio has 2 fans as exhaust, 3 on the front as intake

[atomic jackal]

technically my case doesnt support upwards 240mm but i managed to fit it in

[humble iris]

thats pretty decent, and setup correctly

power supply fan down?

[atomic jackal]

probably

i cant see it very clearly

[humble iris]

it looks like you have some extra vent on top to help neutralize the pressure, but might recycle some exhaust.

and the vented expansion slots as well

yeah that case isnt bad at all, nice

[atomic jackal]

is it because of the low rpm i couldnt feel the air too much?

[humble iris]

yeah

if it's setup smart fan it will speed up when gaming

[atomic jackal]

well its h100x

i put it to standard and it doesnt go above 65

[humble iris]

Ohh yeah you have iCUE to control it?

[atomic jackal]

its not a smart aio i think

[humble iris]

I have an H110, no iCUE, no RGB, just pump and fans

[atomic jackal]

its "brainless" if i may say so

yeah

same thing

[humble iris]

I control mine with motherboard bios

[atomic jackal]

yeah samew

[humble iris]

OIC, yours has RGB but not iCUE usb header, I like that one

[atomic jackal]

yea not rgb tho

just white light

cant change it to another color

[humble iris]

Ohh okay, well all that iCUE sucks in my opinion. I bought a H150i to replace my H110, I returned that POS, it was horrible

[atomic jackal]

yeah

[humble iris]

so many wires, and it did not perform very well either

[atomic jackal]

all i had to connect was the fan and the fan header here

[humble iris]

same here, yeah perfection and performance

I call it RBB not RGB

[atomic jackal]

your aio looks very similar to mine

i may go as far as to say that mine is just a bit fancier and thats all

[humble iris]

Mines not even the H110i just H110

[atomic jackal]

i think mine has thicker tubing and a white light though

also yours is probably 280mm right

[humble iris]

also mine is 280mm

[humble iris]

yeah

mine is straight rubber hose, none of that mesh

https://static.tweaktown.com/content/5/2/5245_21_corsair_hydro_series_h110_aio_cpu_cooler_review_full.jpg

it's like 7 years old, I also have an original H50 from 2010

[atomic jackal]

tbh thats a bit more unsafe

id be nervous if it didnt have mesh

[humble iris]

why?

[atomic jackal]

i mean if it leaked mesh would at least hold a bit of the liquid wouldnt it

[supple bane]

Thats like saying if you fell out of a plane, opening your t shirt will help you

A.) It wont

B.) Why would you fall out a plane?

Ie, you wont

[humble iris]

i doubt it, the mesh was added to protect the cheaper material from drying out

the older coolers have the well some even older ones have rigid plastic material, but they started using the same material a car uses, but that was too costly

now some scientifically engineered type of rubber pvc or something to help with permeation, and the mesh helps protect that. so liquid wont evaporate