technology

[south rune]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-raises-european-rtx-30-series-founders-edition-prices

[humble iris]

They teased that prices would go down back 2009, I was paying around $400 for top end GPU, and buying 3 at a time for SLI, now nearly $2,000 fir single GPU. I say that's bullshit.

I'm on pass 6 of R23

My CPU won't boost, using 20-threads

only at 39c 100% load

[south rune]

Its only european markets they are increasing prices. US remains unchanged on mrsp prices.

[humble iris]

either way I will use this 2080 for 10 years if I have to keep playing the current games for 10 years. they won't get my money.

I'm setting on the same PC since 2014, my GPU has 7 more years warranty.

[south rune]

Yeah, with DLDSR and NIS and then overclocking, you could squeeze a good few years out of it.

[humble iris]

I bought the 2080 in DEC 2018

lol. I scored 9023 in Cinebench R23 at 3.0GHZ, it would not even boost. I will run it later at 4.2GHZ maybe get another 2000 will see. plus I have everything open.

[south rune]

Any reason why your testing it? Personal pride?

9023 is better than my system

[humble iris]

just for fun, but also to see how it fairs against newer CPUs, and the fact it was $2,000.00 CPU in 2016, I paid $200.00 last month for it to upgrade from my old one. 5930k to 6950X

[south rune]

Out of curiosity. Do you use a ram drive?

[humble iris]

It is a brand new CPU never used, but it has some tiny scratches, it's called New Blem from China Guaranteed and it has been 100% stable, and overclocked to 4.2GHZ no issue.

[humble iris]

I have a RAID 0 array with 6 Western Digital Blacks 1TB for a 6TB Raid ) Array, I have it setup with 8GB L1 system ram cache, and a 1TB NVMe Samsung 980 L2 Cache. But my OS is on a 970 Evo Plus 500GB, and a secodary NVMe SN750. I have a total of 13 drives in my PC it won't fit anymore. lol..

[south rune]

How much Ram?

[humble iris]

32GB Quad Channel 3200MHZ

thinking about adding another 32GB

https://www.pcegaming.com/images_blog/RAID0x6-Primo.jpg

I keep a build log here. It's just for fun. https://builds.gg/builds/raid-red-rtx-ws-14981

[latent light]

If you add memory you probably won't be able to run at 3200MHz anymore

[humble iris]

I thought about as well. at least not when the CPU is overclocked.

My board compatibility chart does show a 8x8=64GB running at 3200MHZ 14-14-14-34 @ 1.35v I know it's a risk, plus not being in the same kit. The kit that was tested is $629.00, but I don't need the 14cas I'm fine with 16 which is what I'm running now.

[mortal wadi]

hey guys can someone help me out,i jus bought a new monroe that has 165hrtz for my ps5 to play 120fps,do i need a certain hdmi for it ?

[eager sun]

you need hdmi 1.3 or better

the cable included with the monitor usally supports everything the monitor does

[mortal wadi]

yea i alr got it,my ps5 cable that came w it works

i checked cuz i went on rainbow six and it jus changed my screen

[humble iris]

Gamers Nexus saying the 6500 XT is a mobile GPU on a discrete board. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTugQDugNw

[quick locust]

i linked that earlier

well, not from Steve

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-navi-24-gpu-was-designed-for-ryzen-6000-laptops

[humble iris]

Ohh nice, I did not see that, but Steve rips it apart

card is pure trash as we expected it to be.

[marsh gull]

its better than a 1070 and cheaper than a 3050, its not complete garbage but amd did cheap out a bit on it (4 gb of vram, 2 displayport ports...)

and coming from a 1650 super with 4gb of vram it actually isnt enouph

so thats also why i bought an rx 6600

frankly at 1080p that card is a beast

in bf5 high 1080p i get over 200fps

in ultra its about 160

and high is 180 fps (which is what i play at)

[toxic wigeon]

I was just thinking of a monitor that's the same height horizontally as my monitor vertically. Put it to the side yadda yadda

[opaque saddle]

That would be very expensive. Plus, you would want a monitor that has the same resolution and the same size as your primary monitor

If they aren’t matching the same size and same res, it will not look perfectly on a windows pc. What it means is that from the one you were thinking, the smaller screen could be running at at different scale compared to the primary one

[toxic wigeon]

Hence usb monitor

[opaque saddle]

So everything can be 2x larger or 2x smaller

Look. The monitor you should look at is around 15.18” (16:9) including stand, 13” without stand, ideally running at 1440p

[quick locust]

There's quite a few 15 inch usb monitors

But less than 13 inch isn't that common in my experience

They do exist though

[toxic wigeon]

Hm

Just want something small and cozy

[opaque saddle]

Check out asus MB14AC/MB16AC

[quick locust]

That's one I have used

I used non battery version though

[opaque saddle]

But that could be cheap from Amazon UK to AU

14” at $269, 15” at 369-500

However, it is UK stock, so if anything went wrong, you may have to delivery it to the UK to get it repaired, unless it has international warranty

Tbh, I’d rather spend that money on a better gaming monitor since 369-500 dollars running 1080p 60hz is just too expensive for a non gaming monitor

[humble iris]

Don't forget all the encode and decode it's missing.

[marsh gull]

yeah they cheaped out

but i mean its msrp might be less bloated since there might be less demand

[prisma anvil]

6500xt got nothing on 1070

Maybe in a couple game

[prime jasper]

6500xt?

Its so cut down it gets beaten by the 2017 rx 580

Even the 5500xt

[latent light]

16MB Infinity cache isn't enough to accommodate for the weak 64-bit memory bus

96-bit and 6GB memory would of been lit

[prime jasper]

They wanted to cut cost down

[latent light]

107mm^2 die area is very small

[prime jasper]

Its a laptop sku meant to be paired with a laptop cpu

Look at the die shots lol

Gamers nexus did a teardown of a xfx card

[latent light]

Just a little bit larger than a Zen 3 core complex die

[prime jasper]

Only 5.7 t flops

[latent light]

25% less compute units than 5500XT

[prime jasper]

5500xt had 28?

[prisma anvil]

My friend's 1070 looks like is gonna rock on for years to come.

[prime jasper]

Thank god i got my 6700 xt when i did

[prime jasper]

1070 is still a good card

[prisma anvil]

Yeah she is gonna be cpu bottlenecked prob

6600k only 4c/4t

[prime jasper]

Aa yea

[prisma anvil]

I did OC it to 4.6ghz

Still can't help the 4c 4t situation

[prime jasper]

Yea

[humble iris]

could get a used 7700k to upgrade.

[cursive ermine]

Can rx 6600 xt run minecraft

[midnight crypt]

no you need more than a gpu to run the game

[marsh gull]

it cant you need at least a 3090 ti to run very poorly the game in 480p

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-preps-for-zen-4-different-types-of-cores-now-supported-in-linux

Zen 4 and Zen 4c get Linux support

[prime jasper]

It aint even out yet

[quick locust]

nice, hopefully more smooth launch than with alder lake

Alder lake had some issue with scheduler and still lacks features

[latent light]

Any major features?

[leaden spruce]

i need help guys

can u help me?

[marsh gull]

well, ig no ones playing minecraft then lmao

[leaden spruce]

battlefield 1 is wierd low fps low gpu low cpu and game freeze

can you help me?

[latent light]

Refreshed PS5 and Xbox Series consoles likely to use TSMC's 5nm silicon instead of 6nm, since 6nm doesn't provide enough improvement over 7nm to justify it, plus there was rumors of a Zen 2 based SoC sample being tested on 5nm several months ago

It would be like when the Xbox One APU was ported to 14nm from 28nm for the Xbox One S/X

[mild gale]

can someone help me. I play on high settings in bfv but game looks worst than my math grades

[midnight crypt]

its probably the godawful TAA you cant disable

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/moonbounce-malware-hides-in-your-bios-chip-persists-after-drive-formats

[proud trellis]

the fuck

[raw turtle]

game resolution?

[mild gale]

1080p

[raw turtle]

what render resolution?

[mild gale]

100

[raw turtle]

can you send a picture of what it looks like?

[mild gale]

okay wait a sec

@raw turtle

add me to friend

on dc

[raw turtle]

it most definitely doesn’t look worse than battlefield 3

but go ahead

[idle dust]

are M.2s with a read speed of 5000 MB/s good?

[supple bane]

yes and no

is that a good read speed? yes

is it worth spending money for that kind of speed ? no

5000mb/s will have 0 impact on load times compared to a decent sata ssd

no point for it imo

i highly doubt you have a NIC and switch that could take advantage of that speed, no professional applications to my knowledge will benefit from that. programs wont load faster and they are very expensive

literally only thing i can think of that would make that worth it is if you have a server that can also read at that speed, you have a 40 gig nic and switch, and you want to transfer large files from your server to a local machine a lot

[clear oxide]

anyone know why I can't even queue for a game? it finds a game but then I'm back in the lobby

fuck this game is quite literally unplayable lmao

[eager sun]

restart your game

[clear oxide]

that was the first thing that came to mind and its still not working

restarted my pc too

[eager sun]

its a bug but it basically doesnt appear anymore

maybe verify your game files

it should just disappear at some point

[clear oxide]

i got into 2 games in the past 2 hours.

it works if I queue enough times

but I'm not about to do all that just to play a match lmao. Think I'll just quit this trash for a couple of months until things change

[eager sun]

in my experience restarting the game/verifying game files fixed it i never kept queuing

[humble iris]

This must be they created to sell TPM 3.0

[humble iris]

Yeah they are good, what is your use case, it's really good for making system images and backups. What takes an hour to compress and transfer will take 7 minutes. Some games will load much faster, Star Citizen being one of them, I beleive the slowest game to get to the menu, NVMe really speeds that up. It's also faster for game rendering the Shadercache stored on an NVMe can be increased to whatever you want, to speed render times. I'm looking into getting a fasrer NVMe set, but I'm on PCIe 3.0 so I need a Dual NVMe raid card. But I don't think my motherboard support Bifurcation So I may wait until I upgrade my motherboard. Keep in mind you will need a motherboard that the M.2 supports PCIe 4.0/5.0 not 3.0

[idle dust]

oh...

okay.

then I need a mainboard first. xD

[humble iris]

what board do you have?

PCIe 3.0 NVMe is 3000MB/s to 3500MB/s

[latent light]

You think PCIe 5.0 will cost over $200 per TB?

I wish gen4 prices went down

[humble iris]

I paid $350 for a 3.0 1TB SN750 heat sink model 3 years ago. I can get a 4.0 SN850 Heat sink model for $219 today

Actuall $199 at wd.com

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850-nvme-ssd#WDS100T1XHE

the SN750 is $139 https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850-nvme-ssd#WDS100T1XHE

[latent light]

I paid $99 for a 3.0 1TB WD Black 2400 read/1800 write in summer 2018

We are not the same

[humble iris]

Mine will go as high 3600MB/s

It was the best at the time

[latent light]

That's nearing the limit of 3.0 iirc

[humble iris]

the heatsink is EK and looks awesome

yeah it's maxed on 3.0

https://www.westerndigital.com/content/dam/store/en-us/assets/products/internal-storage/wd-black-sn750-nvme-ssd/gallery/with-heatsink/wd-black-sn750-nvme-ssd-angle-up.png.wdthumb.1280.1280.webp

Actually looking at my invoice I was wrong, $279 and I got the SN750 HS model, and a FREE 2TB WD Black HDD

I feel better now.

[latent light]

[lunar dawn]

honestly even pcie gen3 is good enough for ssd

[humble iris]

yes it sure is, but I want 5.0

[lunar dawn]

considering no ssd can use the full pcie bandwidth wich is like 32gbs on x16

[lunar dawn]

well ... its gonna be expensive thats all i know lol

and tbh there wont be a difference between pcie gen 4 vs gen 5 ssds

perhaps gen 4 ssds wll become cheaper

[humble iris]

gen 5 ssds will be available

[lunar dawn]

maybe ... considering the chip shortage

[humble iris]

z690 is already PCIe 5.0

[lunar dawn]

while it is true they might be out of stock on release

[latent light]

Gen 5 could get scalped

[humble iris]

the SSDs or boards?

[latent light]

SSDs

[lunar dawn]

i mean ... welcome to 2022 i guess

everything gets scalped

even the 6500xt

wich literally uses a 64bit bus

[humble iris]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/561846/samsungs-first-pcie-5-0-ssd-is-here-and-its-stupidly-fast.html

[latent light]

Radeon W6300M uses 32-bit bus

[lunar dawn]

the thing is in the real world you re gonna be bottlenecked by your cpu (loading games or big projects) when a ssd is that fast

[humble iris]

right now it's cheaper to buy DDR4 memory and use it as Ram drive, or Ram cache

[lunar dawn]

and also software not optimized for that kind of ssds i guess like very old software

[humble iris]

Software?

[lunar dawn]

game engines for example

and directstorage support wich is stll unknown

[latent light]

Games already don't take advantage of the fastest PCIe gen4 drives, PS5/Xbox Series would of been fine with gen3 imo

[lunar dawn]

indeed

thats exactly what im saying

even gen4 is overkill

like the gen3 bandwidth is so high you cant even use it all

we ll have to see with direct storage coming to win11/win10

[humble iris]

I don't know why you all think a faster SSD wouldn't be faster, cause it is. If you play 2042 and you are waiting on your squad to load you would know.

[lunar dawn]

thats now how it works

[humble iris]

why am I always waiting?

I have tested it.

[lunar dawn]

ssds is faster sure but a certain point your just bottlenecked by your cpu, second most games dont even use the full potential of pcie gen3

[lunar dawn]

also because the game is dying

even battlefield1 has more players

so ... longer matchmaking

[humble iris]

okay you don't get, I'm actually talking to the people that I know and we measure the loading and know what the hardware is

and this from the begining

[lunar dawn]

well if its the same cpu hardware except for ssd than yes you re right but anyway games in general dont use the full potential of a ssd

[humble iris]

okay.. I disagree but only based on experience, I don't have a youtube video to prove it.

[lunar dawn]

anyway you shiuld watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA

when direcstorage support gets added to windows thing might change

[humble iris]

dude I can't watch LTT, they are so tarded

[lunar dawn]

kek then search on google

and whats wrong with ltt

[humble iris]

Sorry I have my own personal findings.

[lunar dawn]

bruh

[humble iris]

everyone just sees a graph, and is like okay

same LTT that says Audio cards are useless

[lunar dawn]

for normal users yes

for people that make music no

this is my opinion

[humble iris]

okay, I do both, but okay. Most people that think that don't have an audio card, just onboard trash.

they are getting better, but still junk to me

[lunar dawn]

honestly ... the best solution is just get good headphones and also if its for gaming only not even studio ones

[humble iris]

Also what really gets me is, My onboard audio is really great, says the person using a USB headset which is actuall an audio card.

[humble iris]

yes, USB headset is an audio card

Sorry guys, I sound like I'm ranting, I'll tone down. I'm not mad, I'm smiling

[brittle root]

any recommendations for symmetrical headphones?

[humble iris]

watched it 2 years old. and what were they even doing?

the best test is what you actually know

try backing up your os drive and see how long that takes., copy a folder of an Apache web server with several websites, and web apps. trust me the difference is major.

[noble bane]

[robust socket]

Hii, I have Lenovo Yoga 500. Is BF4 Playable on it?

[knotty dagger]

does anyone know why i start battlefield 2042 from ea desktop it will just black screen and stuck at black screen

[prime jasper]

An ultrabook?

Gaming on an ultrabook? No i dont think so

[near rune]

Maybe, maybe not

You didnt tell anything whats inside of it so i cant tell

[prime jasper]

Its a yoga

[robust socket]

The Graphics Card Was Intel HD 520 and GeForce 940m

[robust socket]

yeah

[prime jasper]

940m maybe able to squeeze by

If the settings are turned down

[robust socket]

the Processor Intel i5-6200U

That's it

8 RAM

[robust socket]

Okay

What BF is most compatible for the specs bro?

[near rune]

1942

[prime jasper]

Battlefield generally leverages the cpu due to the player counts and physics and stuff (i might be wrong) so having a good cpu is more important that a good gpu. That said i think you’re gonna be bottlenecked by your cpu before the gpu bottenecks

[robust socket]

Okay thanks for this information :)

[prime jasper]

Wait for others to add to this

Dont just take my point

[robust socket]

Sureee

Btw my Laptop was Dual GPU, Is it affect @prime jasper ?

[prime jasper]

Dual 940m?

[robust socket]

940m and HD 520

[near rune]

If it has 2 gpus doesn't mean it can use both for one task

It will use the less powerful one for light tasks like browsing and the dedicated one for heavier

[robust socket]

I see, alr

[prime jasper]

Yea the integrated one is used for standard display out, the more powerful discrete card is used for games

[robust socket]

In my case the 940m is more powerful than the 520 right?

[prime jasper]

Yea

[robust socket]

and.... is it CPU upgradeable?

[prime jasper]

No laptop i know of has an upgradable socket for a cpu change

[robust socket]

oh okay :)

so will my laptop run BF4?

With all specs I said

[prime jasper]

Should work fine on low settings

[robust socket]

okaay

btw, what bf has most nature maps?

Like mountain, Forest, snow, etc

[quick locust]

there's a few laptops with socket for cpu

but they tend to be large desktop replacement ones

like the one with ryzen 3900 pro and b450 chipset

[robust socket]

I see, Thanks for it :)

[prime jasper]

Those arent really for regular laptop users

[quick locust]

but they are way overkill and pricy for normal users

yea

[prime jasper]

As a desktop replacement yes

XMG did one

[marsh gull]

the high end ones have socketed cpus

[prime jasper]

Nah i mean changeable cpus

[marsh gull]

yeah you can swap them

since they're socketed

[prime jasper]

Really? Haven’t heard of many in the market that do that honestly

[marsh gull]

there's msi and origin pc to the extent of my knowledge

[prime jasper]

Ah

I gotta read more on this topic lol

[marsh gull]

lmao its pretty unique and interesting

[lunar dawn]

i mean its an old game so probably yes

[cursive ermine]

Is rx 6600 xt + i5 10400f a bottleneck??

[prime jasper]

Not quite

The 10400 could handle a 6700 xt

[cursive ermine]

Alright thanks 👍

[prime jasper]

But no more else it’ll bottleneck

[dry pike]

All systems have bottlenecks. What is the bottleneck of a system might even vary depend on game. What is important is that the system is as balanced as possible.

[deft crow]

Carbonic

[latent light]

Carbonic

[deft crow]

[latent light]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-radeon-rx-6900-xt-is-the-worse-mining-gpu-3-years-38-months-to-break-even/

[pale quartz]

in 99% of cases it is impossible to swap the processor

just because the socket is AM4 doesn't mean it's possible to upgrade it, it isn't for laptops

OEMs fuse the chip onto the socket so even if you wanted to you wouldnt be able to upgrade it

[quick locust]

The ones will full socket usually are

But they're big desktop replacement

Not ultrabooks lol

99% is soldered BGA

[pale quartz]

yeah to say that you should be able to upgrade a laptop CPU when it's literally designed in the first place for power efficiency is just silly

[quick locust]

Yes plus physical space needed

[vestal bear]

hah 6900

[latent light]

True gamer card

[quick locust]

G6900 with 6900XT on Z690 with ddr5 6900

[latent light]

i7-6900K more like

Nvm motherboard would be different then lol

[quick locust]

Yeah

[latent light]

That new celeron is good value for ultra budget tho

Rocket league build

[quick locust]

Or NAS

Would be cool

[latent light]

Waiting for Rembrandt mini NUC sized PCs

DDR5 is so expensive tho

Makes it pretty bad value

[quick locust]

Yeah

At least better over time

Like early ddr4 was pretty bad

[quick locust]

How does Toshiba N300 compare to WD reds

Considering buying more of N300s

so I can have raid

[humble iris]

Space X Satellite train tonight. https://findstarlink.com/

Depending on where you are, it might be happening now

[karmic barn]

anyone having issues playing on a party? i froze and crashed 3 times playing with a friend... yesterday played solo and was fine

so my guess the last update might have messed with the party system?

or then its at my end.. but i find it odd that playing solo i don't have issues

(both on PC btw)

and im the only one crashing

its weird

[prisma anvil]

DDR5 is bad value.

However hynix ic around 6000 cl36 is the best now

I'd say if u are made out of money that is the way to go.

Plus buildzoid just made a ddr5 oc guide. I am testing them soon as well

[latent light]

Yeah DDR5-6000CL36 is better than all of DDR4

[prisma anvil]

Max tuned bdie beats micron and ties around samsung in gaming.

Hynix is a tall order haha

[latent light]

DDR5 next year will be impressive

[prisma anvil]

Time to reapply thermal paste to my friend's laptop

[robust socket]

Hey Guys, any recommendations for non gaming laptop that can still powerful for gaming?

[plush karma]

hey

can I ask here about performance in BF1?

[latent light]

[robust socket]

Is it Victus HP Laptop 16 worth it?

[quick locust]

Wonder how AMD RX-421ND compares to AL-314

[quick locust]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17215/intel-expands-12th-gen-core-to-ultraportable-laptops-from-5cores-at-9-w-to-14cores-at-28-w

[lunar dawn]

specs?

[robust socket]

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 5600H
Memory: 16GB
Graphics: AMD Radeon Graphics
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU

[lunar dawn]

i mean thats a very good laptop especially for gaming

[robust socket]

Its at $1300+-

[robust socket]

okay noted, thanks :))

[fallen harbor]

hi loves

anybody has any hardware suggestions to build a server pc for a small company? only 5 employees would connect to the server

[supple bane]

what is it being used for ? @fallen harbor

storage ? what are they storing?

[fallen harbor]

a billing software

and backup of information

thats pretty much it

[supple bane]

backup of information, so im guessing redundancy is important? in which case they will want some kind of raid setup

say like 4 1tb hdd's? in some kind of raid other than raid 0

[fallen harbor]

i got one 1tb ssd for os and main softwares, one 1tb hdd for data and a 2tb hdd for backup

wdym raid

[quick locust]

I am going to use quad 4 TB

in raid 5 or 6

[supple bane]

raid is a system to stripe data across drives

it means depending on what raid number you use, you can have 2 drive faliures and not lose a single piece of data

[fallen harbor]

the main concern and priority is for the five employees to be able to use the billing software without it lagging and freezing

our current server has an i3 2120 and 12gb ddr3 ram

im asking for cpu and ram suggestions mostly tbh

would i5 12400 be enough or not

[supple bane]

without knowing anything about the software i cant say tbh. because its just as likely to be a storage bottleneck as it is a cpu bottleneck

[fallen harbor]

16 24 or 32 gb ram

[supple bane]

personally, i would have the current server run as it usually would under load then look at whats actually being utilised/maxed out

then upgrade that part

in my experience cpu really isnt important for basic servers

as long as its modern itll work just fine.

[fallen harbor]

ok

ty

[fallen harbor]

I just tried checking this in the task manager of the server computer while it was lagging for the employees trying to open excel files but the task manager showed idle-like activity for cpu and ram

[pale quartz]

if it's an actual server

hard drives aren't an option

asynchronous access will slow you down to a crawl, it has to be SSDs only

it'll need to be a full SSD config preferably you're looking at PCIe 4.0

[pale quartz]

no it wouldnt

you'll need a 12 core minimum for that number of people 5950x might be up for consideration for purchase

preferably for backups you should be running data over a LAN network to an external drive, it should not be onboard the main system for security reasons

segregation is key for data integrity

memory 32GB will be required at a minimum aswell, cheaping out isn't an option

more people accessing one server at once the highly more critical multicore scaling becomes for thread cycling, = 4/5 people, cheaping out on the processor will cost you dearly

[fallen harbor]

what cpu would you use for a server used by 30 employees?

[pale quartz]

30 employees? you're talking Xeon/epyc level processor at that scale

TR/epyc is mandatory for that amount

[fallen harbor]

okie

[pale quartz]

it depends how many are concurrently accessing it at one time but once you get past 15 users you're entering actual server grade territory with 64GB/16 core+ processors being required

pretty much anyways

[fallen harbor]

in our company its just five but afaik no more than two or three are inside at the same time usually

[pale quartz]

if two/three are accessing it you can work with a 12 core like the 5900x

equip it with an NVMe drive 3.0/4.0 tlc grade you won't have any freezing issues

[fallen harbor]

thing is that the budget that gerency gives is very limited so theres no way i can get a 12 or even an 8 core probably

[pale quartz]

you have two options

[latent light]

RTX 4090 leak

[pale quartz]

you can either get old server grade hardware which will be rendered basically non functional in less than 3 years or tell them there's no way to get what they're wanting in that budget

[fallen harbor]

i tried to change their mind but i wont tbh

theyve been using an i3 2120 for 10 years as a server now

and think the issues are actually mostly just employee laziness

[pale quartz]

company clearly don't give a shit about data security lmao

2120 is vulnerable to numerous exploits

[fallen harbor]

its a miracle they are giving me permission to get a new pc at all

[fallen harbor]

yeah forget about that

[pale quartz]

they don't have a choice, that processor won't function on modern software stacks

[fallen harbor]

well weve been using windows 2003

windows server 2003*

[pale quartz]

point exactly

your company is probably breaking numerous data protection laws by the sounds of it tbh the regulator would like a word with them

[fallen harbor]

i think i5 14200 with 32gb ram and 1tb ssd is the most i will be able to get with the budget

[fallen harbor]

well you know this is the third world

its kinda like hell nothing really matters

[pale quartz]

if possible, get the 12600k

it isn't that much more

[fallen harbor]

and hardware is overpriced here

at least twice as expensive

with wages that are around 8 times lower

[pale quartz]

ehh even then the 600k will be a much better decision even if the parts are massively overinflated to begin with

you'll get by with it for much longer

12400 isn't a part that can operate well for server class operations tldr

[fallen harbor]

ic

well tyvm for your time

[pale quartz]

np

[eager sun]

I dont know anything about servers but why do you think the 12600k would be much better ?

[pale quartz]

because when you're increasing your core count by 4 there is much more headroom for users concurrently accessing the system to be able to do their own I/O operations without collapsing the processor in on itself

6 - 10 especially with e cores makes a big difference for volume headroom

[fallen harbor]

i guess the tldr would be the more cores the better the multitasking

?

[latent light]

E-cores on 12th gen are comparable to kaby/coffee lake in IPC

[pale quartz]

for servers specifically yes

cores/threads, anyways

ADL is latency sensitive for process scheduling so maxing out cores isn't an option without avoiding freezing

[pale quartz]

IPC for the ecores is basically a non factor nobody accessing the server will be doing high throughput work anyways

[latent light]

I'd probably recommend a i7-12700F

That's supposed to cost a little bit more than 12600K

[pale quartz]

yeah not, based on the conversation really a feasible option

12600k is skimming the surface of cost increase/reasonable purchase for something on a tight budget

12700f is increasing cost by around 20% for 2 cores and 4t, isn't a good purchase for a budget

[fallen harbor]

also wdym f

you saying i should buy a gpu too?

[latent light]

12700F is $30 more than 12600K

[fallen harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-nanabun-no-nijyuuni-anime-expression-huh-what-gif-16563605

[warm stag]

Is there any good cheap processors someone can recomend, I'm using "i5 4590 @ 3.30GHz" But only get 15 fps in bf2042

[fallen harbor]

i5 10400f is cheap for its performance but if youre getting 15fps on a 4590 id say your settings are wrong, or your gpu is even worse

[eager sun]

thx

[warm stag]

My Grahics card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

[fallen harbor]

check your settings

something is wrong

[warm stag]

It's all on lowest

Even the res

[fallen harbor]

4590 is bad and old yes but should give more than 15fps

[warm stag]

Yeah ik, I'm getting 15 fps in 128 player, in 64 i get 20 fps

[eager sun]

i believe nothing is wrong 4590 is only a 4core which is already a nightmare for bf2042 and single core performance is also next level bad

[warm stag]

All my settings are lowest, and my resolution is lower too

[fallen harbor]

anyway id recommend i5 10400f or r5 5600

[pale quartz]

gpu not required

[molten coral]

If you wanna upgrade you will also need a new motherboard and memory. So it isn't going to be ''cheap''.

[fallen harbor]

doesnt f mean no igpu?

[latent light]

4th gen Intel has enough single-core performance for any games just doesn't have enough cores

[pale quartz]

you'll be needing a GPU too

[warm stag]

The gpu is fine ig

Not that bad

[pale quartz]

12600k, I was going by

with the f you will need a gpu

also a reason to get the 12600k

[fallen harbor]

i was asking grim cause he said 12700f

[warm stag]

Why cant I just replace the processor on my current motherboard?

[pale quartz]

it is

you won't get good frames with that card

you need to upgrade both

[warm stag]

Oh

[fallen harbor]

because your current motherboard is only compatible with 4th gen of intel

[molten coral]

Because it's just a bad idea, you will need to hunt for an old CPU that isn't going to be worth your money.

[pale quartz]

upgrading the processor will give you moderate gains you will still be massively GPU starved

[warm stag]

How do you know this?

[fallen harbor]

because i google

[pale quartz]

because it's an intel chip socket lol

intel chip sockets cannot be upgraded

[eager sun]

lmao

[warm stag]

Ohh

So basically I should get a new pc xd

[fallen harbor]

intel boards are only compatible with one and only generation of cpus

[molten coral]

Kinda

[pale quartz]

you're right under this you'll need to get a external GPU all the more reason to get the 12600k

[fallen harbor]

best you can do with your mobo is an i7 4770 i guess which would be a dumb upgrade

[pale quartz]

not entirely true

actually it's not true

[warm stag]

Ohhh

[pale quartz]

there are cross generation compatibility sockets they are just rare

[latent light]

Intel's new LGA1700 socket is supposed to support more than 2 generations this time (12th, 13th, 14th)

[pale quartz]

ADL is, well should be cross compatible with RPL etc

we'll see about LL

[molten coral]

How generous of Intel to be supporting more than 1 generation lul

[latent light]

I heard even Lunar Lake could be on LGA1700

[pale quartz]

supporting more processors is not easy

as much as people give intel shit it's a design limitation

AMD was a mess with it on older chipsets

and with AM5 it will definitely have less support than AM4

[latent light]

Lisa Su said AM5 will see the same longevity as AM4 did

[eager sun]

idk if you know but you can run 6-7-8-9th gen on Z270 so clearly intel didnt need to come out with a new chipset every generation

(minimal mods needed fpr 8-9th gen on z270)

[pale quartz]

no, they did, architectures are not designed with older support in mind

[latent light]

I'm sure AM5 wont have the BIOS ROM issues that AM4 did and won't cut off BIOS features and interface to support future gen CPUs

[pale quartz]

and Intel's problems are much more complicated than just they didn't need to

than people think anyways it was a problem they made themselves

[pale quartz]

it just won't support as many future processors

AM4 was a support anomaly and it will not repeat itself, not even AMD wanted to keep AM4 supported this long they had no choice

[eager sun]

hm ok thats just what it seems like to me if i can use z270 for 4generations by doing minimal mods

[pale quartz]

the reason intel needed new chipsets is because of how unstable 14nm was on older gen chips

voltages and wattage consumption was highly irregular and unstable between each generation it was impossible to account for

which is why each chip has modified pin layouts per generation, it's not a coincidence that transitioning to 10nm allows them to "support" (we'll see for how long) future generations on 1700

[latent light]

Lisa Su quote: "I don't have an exact number of years but I would say that you should expect that AM5 will be a long-lived platform as AM4 has been. I think we're expecting AM4 to stay in the marketplace for quite some years and it will be sort of an overlapping type of thing."

[pale quartz]

yeah, long lived platform, it will not live as long as AM4 did

those are 2 entirely different things

[latent light]

AM4 will keep going for a couple more years apparently but it will just be Zen 3 refreshes

[pale quartz]

AMD backed themselves into a hole and AM5 will have segregated limitations, whether that's through the chipset or socket remains to be seen

but this AM4 run won't return

supporting it on older chipsets has been a complete mess for AMD with massive incompatibility issues, but they had no choice when they literally were non existent in the CPU market 5 years ago

[latent light]

It was a mess because 300 series motherboards were probably the worst generation of motherboards ever

[pale quartz]

not just because of that

300 was its own affair

actually getting the BIOS working for even the 400 series ROMs was a total nightmare

for OEMs, and AMD

and they won't go through that again next socket round, they aren't stupid

[latent light]

I heard 300 series boards were underdeveloped by manufacturers because they didn't have faith in AMD

[pale quartz]

the 300 series chipset wasn't made by AMD, it was outsourced

which is why it was a mess

[latent light]

Lol

X670 when

I believe the first AM5 boards are gonna be 700 series to match with Ryzen 7000 naming

[lusty star]

AM5 is them going back to LGA

Ig?

[latent light]

Yes

[lusty star]

Ryzen 9 10950X when 😂

[latent light]

I think they're gonna adopt a whole new name after Ryzen 9000

Doubt there will be a Ryzen 10000

[toxic wigeon]

10600

[pale quartz]

that's not the current plan

based on what I've been told anyways, Zen 5 isn't finished yet so things can change but they're sticking with the same naming past 9000

[latent light]

8000 is Zen 4+?

I feel like Zen 4 + 4c is gonna happen

[toxic wigeon]

What's that?

[latent light]

Zen 4c is basically the E-core version of Zen 4

[toxic wigeon]

Ohh

Got it

[latent light]

Zen 4 has 8 cores per chiplet

Zen 4c has 16 cores each

All they did to make Zen 4c cores smaller is cut the cache in half iirc

[toxic wigeon]

Right

[pale quartz]

"perhaps"

current plans are to integrate little cores into the APU chips, no plans for desktop as of now

[latent light]

Little cores do make sense for an APU, that means more room for the iGPU

iGPU takes up a lot of space

[pale quartz]

current internal plans are just for pure big CCXs on Zen 4 desktop, Zen 5 will integrate little cores on desktop but Zen 4 little desktop is 50/50 chance of happening

it depends how RPL pans out

[latent light]

I wanna see AMD do 8+16 with Zen 4/4c so it can directly compare to RPL

1 P-core CCD and 1 E-core CCD

[pale quartz]

more or less a fantasy don't expect, if it does happen little cores to be on the top desktop line

they will take the place of big cores instead aka low TDP desktop parts

Zen 4 max core count is 16, it won't go higher this generation

[latent light]

16 vs 8+16

[pale quartz]

CCX scheduling

not as easy as you think for inequal core counts

which is why it was canned early on for little cores on the top SKU

[latent light]

Zen 4 has been taped out for so long, first engineering sample was leaked over a year ago lmao

Zen 4 is pretty much ready but DDR5 availability affects launch date

[pale quartz]

yeah Zen 4 was used as the original prototype for TSVs fun fact

before it got working on Zen 3

[latent light]

Thought Zen 2 was first to test TSVs

[pale quartz]

working prototype

they have been trying since Zen 2 but it never worked properly back then

[gusty plaza]

Anyone have resize bar enabled and noticed more fps in 2042?

[pale quartz]

there is yes

[latent light]

Zen 2 clocks would of been so shitty with 3D cache

[gusty plaza]

Ty

[pale quartz]

Zen 2's biggest issue with TSVs was the half constructed monstrosity Zen 2 released with on the CCX

[gusty plaza]

I heard ddr5 was actually a drop in performance

[pale quartz]

it's not that's a myth

internal testing for Zen 2's TSVs were god awful for latency literally not usable

[latent light]

Yeah Zen 2 cache, memory and CCX latency was pretty bad

3D cache negatively affects latency too

[pale quartz]

you can see why TSVs never came out for the Zen 2 refresh (it was actually supposed to)

I forgot what I got told but the latency penalty was something like 30% with the TSV prototypes just a shitshow

[gusty plaza]

So you think the 5800x3d coming out will be bad?

[pale quartz]

no

this is Zen 2 not Zen 3

[latent light]

Latency penalty on Zen 3D is tiny and doesn't matter because bandwidth is so much higher

[pale quartz]

the 5800x3d will be a good chip, well, it is, I've seen how it performs lol

[gusty plaza]

Better then 5900x for gaming?

[latent light]

5800X3D is the best gaming CPU period

[gusty plaza]

Dayum ok

[pale quartz]

it will be yes

just don't expect it to be cheap, like at all, it's going to cost as much as the 5900x

[gusty plaza]

I'll try to sell my 5900 if that proves true

[latent light]

There may not be a 5900X3D coming because it would be too expensive to make and the 5800X3D is already enough to dethrone the 12900K in gaming

[pale quartz]

there isnt

there was very serious discussions going on to integrate vcache into the 5900x but it's canned

5800x will be the only SKU with it

[latent light]

AMD already demonstrated a 5900X3D early sample last summer

[pale quartz]

they did, and as I say it was seriously being discussed for mass manufacturing, but it's not happening

[latent light]

5900X3D is very expensive to make, there's 5 chips in total

5900X is only 3 chips

[pale quartz]

its more complicated on their part than you'd think than just cost to make

the reason, well aside from cost why it was canned is because a 5900x3d was actually outcompeting some Zen 4 parts

[quick locust]

thats a lot of messages

deco has been set loose

[pale quartz]

you can tell can't you

and unsurprisingly AMD don't want to give people a reason not to upgrade

[quick locust]

good thing they compete for once

[latent light]

5900X3D would of been a good bit faster than 5800X3D in gaming

[cursive ermine]

asus strix rx 6600 xt good? just ordered one

[latent light]

A lot more cache

[pale quartz]

precisely why it (will) never come out

the 5900x already has a massive cache and the gains the 5900x had from even more were nuts

also fun fact that Zen 4 chip that was sustaining 5ghz on all cores for the show was a silver binned sample

[quick locust]

I just bought 275 usd worth of HDDs

so

but I might upgrade in a gen or two in cpu and mobo

[pale quartz]

you really like yeah let me spend my money on more rust

[quick locust]

cost much less than a ssd raid

besides I am the only user

not like the other guy who needs a proper server

[pale quartz]

the risk of data corruption on those drives alone would drive me paranoid

what you running raid of like 6

[quick locust]

just 4 lol

4 SSDs would murder my AL-314 cpu anyway I guess

[pale quartz]

gets beat by one SSD vs 4 hard drives

[quick locust]

AMD RX-421ND would be quite a lot better

than AL-314

yeah, but then I would not have redundancy

[gusty plaza]

Dumb question maybe? Do I have to change anything in bios to get PCIe 4.0 operating properly? I have a crosshair 8 dark hero mobo

[pale quartz]

GCN architecture

[quick locust]

I already have decent amount of SSDs, this is just for long term NAS storage

[pale quartz]

you do not

[gusty plaza]

Ty

[quick locust]

it will auto set to highest supported

[pale quartz]

the BIOS detects 4.0 by itself, the card/drive just has to support it

[pale quartz]

till your spinning rust screeches and makes you deaf

[quick locust]

intel moment

Nah these N300s should last a while

[gusty plaza]

I'm running Nvidia auto tuning rn I can't believe how far it's pushing my Strix 3060ti

[quick locust]

and I can lose one without losing data

[pale quartz]

yeah don't expect anything from that

Nvidia cards are shit with clock scaling you'll get no noticeable gains

[gusty plaza]

Well I think it's gonna cap at +200 or so MHz on GPU clock

[pale quartz]

said every hard drive user ever

[quick locust]

But yeah these N300s should last a while, and I can lose one due to raid 5

considered raid 6 but would half my storage

[pale quartz]

yeah you will notice basically no difference in framerate

ampere is garbage for clock scaling

[gusty plaza]

True

[quick locust]

four 4 TB ssds would be pricy and not very useful for my use

[pale quartz]

why are you so adamant on RAID

[gusty plaza]

With tweak 2 I was able to crank all sliders max lol

[pale quartz]

you're better just leaving it as stock

[quick locust]

Cause I don't want data loss lol

[pale quartz]

you'll gain no benefit from maxing the card

[pale quartz]

just use a LAN for storage lmao

set up some garbage drive externally and just run it off one ssd

[quick locust]

nah I just use this NAS

[gusty plaza]

Anyone know where the cool n quiet setting is in Asus bios?

[pale quartz]

those are CPU parameters, they do not affect the GPU

[gusty plaza]

Crosshair 8 dark hero board

I know

[pale quartz]

you'll find it under advanced iirc

last time I checked my crosshair vii

[quick locust]

my gigabyte bios is a bit of a mess

[pale quartz]

"a bit"

understatement of the year

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-gif-22919457

[pale quartz]

I hate asus's gimmick features tbh they're very annoying

they have one useful thing but still package all this nonsense like cool n quiet with it

[quick locust]

less chaotic than this folder

though i removed half of it by now

down to 900 gb ish

[pale quartz]

I would use that as a dataset just to benchmark my own SSD for throughput on sorting algorithms

[quick locust]

i went from 256 GB used in last 30 days to 727 GB

of internet

[pale quartz]

then probably watch it die after its finished

[quick locust]

do that on the intel 600p, death speedrun

[pale quartz]

you'd know that well

1gb and you're already hanging around for things to load

[quick locust]

chia and it'd be dead in less than month

[pale quartz]

nah

[quick locust]

just get NAS with 4 of these

[pale quartz]

it'd be so slow to process it would actually survive longer than a 8TB one

[gusty plaza]

Look at the stats on this m.2 adata gammix s70 lmk what you think

[pale quartz]

to think this will be matched by a single drive in under 2 years is a scary thought

[quick locust]

this was from 6 months ago, pain

[pale quartz]

126 SMART corruption errors

[quick locust]

imagine pcie 5.0 x16 aic ssd

[pale quartz]

I mean like

[quick locust]

[pale quartz]

it sounds good till then 2 years after that it's beaten by 6.0 lmao

[quick locust]

thats how its supposed to be

actual progress

[pale quartz]

tell that to Nvidia

[quick locust]

😛

i wonder if I can hit a throttling cap this month

not sure if there is one

[pale quartz]

enjoy being liquidated for the rest of your money

[quick locust]

or just liquidated

[pale quartz]

nah both your ISP needs some way to begin scalping cards

[quick locust]

epic

[molten coral]

very epic

[latent light]

Why are we jumping to new PCIe standards so quickly

[pale quartz]

mostly cause PCIe for the longest time was lulling in the dust

[latent light]

Intel only stayed on 4.0 for little over a year

[pale quartz]

the designers never really intended PCIe for what it is now back in 2.0

and their targets only really changed with 3.0

[latent light]

PCIe 5.0 drives are gonna be like $300 for 1TB

I was hoping to see 5.0 replace 4.0 pricing and 4.0 would come down to 3.0 prices lmao

[coarse nimbus]

Tech prices coming down? What year do you think it is

[quick locust]

💤

[coarse nimbus]

That English looks a bit sus

[quick locust]

It's just english with accent

jk

[prisma anvil]

Can we not say 5800X 3D is the fastest gaming cpu?

it didn't even release yet

lol

You time traveled?

[prisma anvil]

No the 5800X 3D is not the fastest gaming cpu because it didn't release or get reviewed by independent reviewers

right now the fastest is the 12900k

when it releases and beat 12900k, then it will be the fastest gaming cpu

[gusty plaza]

Lol ok so my 5900x was the best before 12900k. Is that what you're saying 😂

[prisma anvil]

no, I am saying we should stop saying something is the fastest when its not released yet and no one reviewed it

[gusty plaza]

I asked a question. I made no factual statements

[prisma anvil]

It was not directed at you

it was grim gram

[gusty plaza]

Bra u tagged me

[prisma anvil]

oh I thought you actually listened to him

nvm then

[gusty plaza]

You mean sorry

[prisma anvil]

nah

[gusty plaza]

Lol

[prisma anvil]

[gusty plaza]

I'm a sexy T. Dude just like keeves

Apology accepted

[prisma anvil]

Daniel Crag is better

jk

5900X is a beast tho ur good for like 4 more years

unless u wanna chase dragon etc

[gusty plaza]

Yea I'm just now messing with pbo

I can get 4.7 ish plus pbo so far

[prisma anvil]

hope ur negative offset is good

on the CO

[gusty plaza]

I'm not using fan curve

Or curve optimization

[prisma anvil]

oh.

[gusty plaza]

Fuck it

[prisma anvil]

then 4.7 is respectable

yeah CO is a pain in the azz

[gusty plaza]

I think I need 1.41 volts to run cinibench multicore now ooof

[prisma anvil]

if its cool then dont worry let pbo do its ting

[gusty plaza]

Oh it's cool never over 70c in cinibench

Lil more juice I think

Oh shit I had it at stock voltage. Try again derp

[prisma anvil]

Man some laptop heatsink is a joke

tiny fans and heatpipes and they really said pL2 of 90w for a bit llol

even after repaste with kryonaut it was hitting 80c at 45w power draw

[gusty plaza]

LFM Breakthrough 128 NA Squad 3

[deft crow]

I have an issue with my wifi. I decided to do a network restart, and now it won't connect to wifi, and the error keeps saying, "there might be a problem with the driver for the wifi adapter."

How do u fix this?

[atomic jackal]

guys

i realized my gpu doesnt use a lot of watts

why does this happen?

and should i overclock?

it only used 140watts

at %100

its a 3060

[storm osprey]

isnt that normal?

[eager sun]

it cant go over 100% usage so why would you want it to pull more power ?

[storm osprey]

i think they are assuming 140w power draw for his card is low and is saying its at 100% to show its maxed out

[eager sun]

if he means 100% gpu usage power draw is irrelevant

140W is also normal as you said so yeah nothing weird going on

[atomic jackal]

hmm

can i overclock it ?

[storm osprey]

you can overclock anything

[atomic jackal]

my mobo is not very good though s

so im kinda worried

[storm osprey]

mobo doesnt matter

well, for gpu it doesnt matter

[atomic jackal]

well my card is extremely cool so theres a lot of room

[eager sun]

yes that might help a bit but dont expect too much sub 5% performance gain

[atomic jackal]

its at 49 degrees at %100

idk why it runs so cool but its definitely nice

[eager sun]

bcs only 140W thats low for a gpu

[atomic jackal]

it is?

[eager sun]

yes

[atomic jackal]

ive seen 2060's hit 80 degrees so thats why im pleasantly suprised

[latent light]

RTX 3060 is rated at 170W but can go up to around 200W from boosting

[atomic jackal]

hmm then why is mine using 140 instead of 170?

[latent light]

What clockspeed is it boosting to in games

[atomic jackal]

1960mhz

memory is at 7500

[latent light]

Triple fan cooler?

[atomic jackal]

yeah

asus tuf 3060

[eager sun]

i gained 3% from overclocking my 1080 to 2140mhz + mem oc nvidias boost is too strong

[gusty plaza]

if you have a 3000 use resize bar

[latent light]

I imagine your 140W reading is just the graphics power alone not including video memory power draw

[atomic jackal]

is geforce experience accurate?

thats where i looked it up

[latent light]

I don't think that gives a TBP reading

[gusty plaza]

need hw monitor

[latent light]

Hw monitor was pretty inaccurate for me

[atomic jackal]

hw monitor says 130W

[gusty plaza]

show im pulling 170w on 3060 ti seems right on

[atomic jackal]

it does

[gusty plaza]

you probably dont have power management set to max performance in nvidia control panel

so it throttles

[atomic jackal]

yeah

I'll do that

its in "3d settings" right

[gusty plaza]

you need to restart after setting that despite what it says

yea

[atomic jackal]

my gpu is supposed to have a gaming switch and a normal one

but i dont see a switch

hmm is my gpu defective or something

lol

[gusty plaza]

its a tiny finger nail switch on the front top left

[atomic jackal]

oh yea i see it now

tiny black switch

dont know if i will bother with opening my glass panel for thst

[gusty plaza]

yea it should be set to p (when power is off)

[atomic jackal]

though

should i bother opening my entire glass panel for that

[gusty plaza]

q is bad lol

[atomic jackal]

doesnt control panel do the same thing

@gusty plaza as far as i know it just gets a more aggressive fan curve

my temps are already great

[gusty plaza]

it will tend to throttle more on q mode

[atomic jackal]

ill see if me putting it into max perf will get more wattage

if it does great

if it doesnt ill consider the switch

mhz dropped down to 35 when setting it to max perf

wtf lol

watts are exactly the same

weirdly though

my fps have skyrocketed

man this card is quite peculiar

[humble iris]

Does this require Bifurcation X4/X4/X4/X4? or does it recognize as just a single X16 card? I wanted to get one, it will be PCIe 3.0 4 times faster then a PCIe 3.0 NVMe if configured in raid 0, So it should be around 14,000MB/s. The only thing that stopped me is my board does not have Bifurcation to split it up in (4) x4 slots. Only a straight x4 or x8 or x16 not 4 actuals.

Literally cannot find if this card requires Bifurcation or not.

[toxic wigeon]

So whenever I play terraria my GPU makes a buzzing noise

I'm assuming GPU because it's kinda being forced to be used

It's hitting 61C but it shouldn't be that bad.

[marsh gull]

maybe lower the fan speeds

im not sure

but you could try

[humble iris]

Is it fan noise? or that weird coil whine?

[humble iris]

If you are not sure, try setting up a fan curve where the fans do not come on but set them to come on before 83c or whatever, and if you can hear the noise while fans are not spinning then it might be coil whine. If not then there may a wire loose, or a bad fan. Basically see if makes noise without fan.

[prime jasper]

Do you have v sync on?

Or any frame limiter

[toxic wigeon]

It's a very old GPU

A Radeon 5800x

[lofty light]

It'll be coil whine unless you've got something stuck against the fans

[stuck tangle]

im trying to play a game and this appears what i do

[marsh gull]

say yes

its normal dw

[stuck tangle]

i did

[marsh gull]

its just side stuff thats required to run the game

[stuck tangle]

and then it repeatitive

its like a whole cycle

[marsh gull]

hm

i mean i dont really know lol sry

[stuck tangle]

ugh fine

[marsh gull]

never had this problem before

[tough mulch]

Hey guys

Can someone help me fix battlefield 1 multiplayer

it simply does not run smooth

The single player is fine.

[marsh gull]

whats your cpu?

what your ram configuration and specs?

how much vram do you have?

[prime jasper]

Radeon HD 5800?

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-6900hx-shows-up-on-geekbench-33-faster-than-5900hx

[steel yoke]

Anyone wanna play? Xbl o BaMBeR o

Wrong section

[latent light]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-25/nvidia-is-said-to-quietly-prepare-to-abandon-takeover-of-arm

Nvidia not taking over ARM anymore

[latent light]

Intel laptop GPUs

[latent light]

Seems like Intel may launch the fastest mobile GPU

[lunar dawn]

i mean it sounds like you need glasses /s

[coarse nimbus]

ah yes...the red bars, are quite red

[prime jasper]

Don't people know all informations about this following gun:High-Impulse Weapon System(Lacroix Samouraï 76mm Urban Warfare Weapon)?

why does dx12 cause bf5 to crash

actually it does that for lots of my games and im not sure why

i have an rx series gpu so dx 12 is perfect for it, and when i use it for bf5 i see an extreme fps boost compared to dx11

[plush karma]

Question, what happened to Battlefield 1 optimization? I knew that something was messy, bc my pc shouldn't have many stuttering as it does, as like, there's a YT that I used to watched, where like, 5 years ago, he was able to play the game safely at 60 fps, while his setup was like, a FX-6300 and a R7 from the high end at the time, my gpu is a RX 580 and I have a R5 1400, that even, isn't that much of a good CPU at this point, it was very good for casual low graphics gameplay in the time it was released.

I've searched a bit and reached some debates on reddit, about the optimization of the game getting really bad after I think, the Russian DLC, what the hell actually happened to the game? Some said stuff about netcode changes, changing how your CPU worked while in game, and other stuff, but idk, feels so fucking weird that I can't even play stable 60 fps on a 2016 game

[latent light]

I played BF1 fine on a 4-core/4-thread i5-4690K back then but I never played when the Russian DLC came out

[latent light]

RAM configuration is important too, if you happen to only have one stick of RAM in single-channel mode then you will only have half the potential bandwidth

[toxic wigeon]

So what's the prime difference between the Rm850x and the RM850x V2? Is the V2 just higher quality?

[storm osprey]

hmm, im seeing the v2 came out a few years ago, and the other one came out in 2021?

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm850x-v2-psu,5568.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm850x-2021-power-supply-review

the 2021 psu coming with the triangle mesh design

[toxic wigeon]

Hm

So really that's just it, Smaller and quieter. Which isn't too much of a concern.

Cause no matter what it'll fit into the lian li 2

But it'll be better for cables

Side note. When I walked into my mates house and heard his PC run it was so weird

[atomic jackal]

yo how am i able to select 2880x1660 with a 1080p panel

dldsr?

[lunar dawn]

what are you trying to do?

render higher res then downsample or whatever the process is called to 1080

[atomic jackal]

Yeah

which is why its pointless

[toxic wigeon]

Bahhhhh is thermal paste essential????

Also, Is there a 3d programm where you can use it to build PC's to get a general idea how to?

Actually that's a good idea

[opaque saddle]

essential. Strongly recommended to put it on, not so much, not too little, it fills up the gap between air and the processor' metal plate which can decrease cpu temp

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[eager sun]

Nvidia says you will end up with more detail compared to rendering it in 1080p right away. Im sure they know what they are doing and didnt invent garbage but imo the performance loss is significantly more noticeable/important than whatever image quality improvement you get

[atomic jackal]

should i turn off dldsr then?

[eager sun]

Sorry i was talking about DSR. DLDSR does the exact same thing but significantly reduces performance loss so you could try it out i guess. I personally wouldnt use something like that though

[misty cedar]

Why is there no dedicated team to manage the exchange of updated battlefield 1

[toxic wigeon]

So between the Msi b550 pro and the tomahawk, What's truly the difference? Just overclocking and usb socketS?

[opaque saddle]

Usually it has differences in build quality, overclock ability and rear IO. Apart from price differences,, the PCIE slot may be trimmed (2 vs 1)

sometimes the onboard sound chip can be better

[plush karma]

I have 2 2400mhz

And if I remember well
Fx wasnt able to go much more than that since it was ddr3

Still I wonder how the fuck DICE managed to fuck the optimization this much

2x 8gb btw

[lunar dawn]

yes

i mean you can test a pc without it

like you can see if it post then turn it off

but thats about it

[storm osprey]

theres also thermal pads

[quick locust]

Toolless drive install is nice

And hot swap

[humble iris]

Yes it is, but as far as brands and all that, I haven't noticed any difference at all, I've used Arctic Silver, Arctic Silver Ceramic, Zalman STG-1, Zalman STG-2, The paint on kind, and even the cheap stuff that comes in the Hyper 212 boxes. It all works the same, but the higher quality brands will last longer, and perform longer. I recommend Arctic as I have used it for many years, and even have 10 year old builds with it still original application. I've been meaning to pick up some MX-4/5 and some Corsair XTM50 to try out, I have used the pre applied corsair TIM as well, and worked the same. I like the Arctic Silver Ceramique as it's non conductive, and performs well, but the silver is the best. There is a lot of hype these days so I recommend any popular name brand product should work just fine.

[humble iris]

Depending on what CPU you use, and if intend on overclocking, check power delivery, PCIe lanes supplied by the CPU and/or Chipset, multi-phase power, gold content, etc.. etc..

Tomahawk has (2) Lan ports
Tomahawk has ALC1200 Audio vs Pro has ALC892
Pro has 2 more USB 2.0 ports then Tomahawk
Pro has TPM Header, Tomahawk does not say
I'm sure there are more differences.

[latent light]

ALC1200 is quite a bit better than ALC892

[rose prawn]

Oooo... a technology channel.. anyone help me get a Joystick (Thrustmaster 16000m) working with BF2042?

I've installed and configured XOutput and HidHide, successful had Steam recognize the joystick as an xbox controller, configured the joystick mapping in XOutput, and yet still BF2042 does not recognize that I have a joystick/controller plugged in. I mean technically, I can't tell if knows anything or not, I've just found that I can't remap any buttons because it doesn't recognize that I'm pressing any buttons or anything like that.

why is this game SOOO terrible that it doesn't support joysticks is BEYOND me...

[quick locust]

https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512518/DeadBolt-ransomware-targeting-QNAP-NAS-storage-devices

[latent light]

Mid-range i5-12500H laptop CPU outperforms the fastest last-gen laptop CPU i9-11980HK

[proud compass]

what mice do you use? i use the zowie ec1

[wintry wolf]

razer basilisk v3

[storm osprey]

logitech g pro x superlight

[wet notch]

zowie fk2

[storm osprey]

i miss my fk2, clicks were a little heavy but the shape mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[wet notch]

yeah the shape is awesome

i have one of the newer ones where the cord is slightly different

it points just a tiny bit upwards, dunno why they did that

my cord never got stuck on anything

[storm osprey]

mine used to snag on my control pads that didnt have stiched edges

i hated it

[wet notch]

oh, maybe that is why they changed it then

im just worried its gonna break soon

the scroll or a button or something

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/g-skill-releases-ddr5-6400-cl32-2x16gb-low-latency-memory-kit

CL32

[unborn cove]

@lunar dawn hi

@lunar dawn

[lofty light]

Why are you pinging people

[lunar dawn]

hi

[toxic wigeon]

So how does updating a b550 BIOS work?

Can you boot up the computer like normal and get some sort of update by going through the website or is it more complicated

[lunar dawn]

i mean it depends on motherboard model but tbh you just download the update file, if its an exe you can just execute it

if its another type of file (usually inside a zip folder) you just need to unzip the folder and put that file on a usb then go into your bios and select that file in the bios update options

or you can just search how to update (model) b550 bios on google

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah I kinda wrote that, Searched up and god its scary

[lunar dawn]

i mean .... its literally not

you just put one file and it does all the work

for you

just dont turn it off and you re good

[toxic wigeon]

It's really simple yeah but fucking up jeez

Yeah

[lunar dawn]

what b550 do you have

[toxic wigeon]

I'm looking at getting the MSI b550 A PRO

With a 5600x

[lunar dawn]

https://youtu.be/rAYmpcJnEkM

[prime jasper]

Get a b550 tomahawk

Spending more on a mobo is never a mistake