technology

[latent light]

B650 supposed to have same amount of PCIe 4 lanes as X570 while X670 has up to double

[toxic wigeon]

Really the whole point of nabbing an up to date motherboard is for the lanes and better CPU compatibility?

Not compatibility but

General use?

[latent light]

I/O I guess

Maybe you want a board with most up-to-date Type-C or USB ports?

[toxic wigeon]

Ye seems so

[supple bane]

What happened to am5?

[pale quartz]

its not what youre thinking

the AGESA for zen 3 required the software stack to be rewritten from scratch which is why compatibility had to be dropped for older generation processors in the BIOS, this wont be the case for zen3d

[latent light]

AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX ‘Rembrandt’ mobile APU specs leak: 8 'Zen 3' cores on enhanced 6nm node, 20 MB cache, 4.6 GHz boost & Radeon 680M 'RDNA2' integrated graphics

[outer goblet]

That good?

Can never tell with all these sports PC's if the torque reaches the wheels

[pale quartz]

[still quartz]

anyone experiencing crashes at the start (first 5 minutes) of every pvp matches?

i can only play without crashin at solo matches against bots '-'

[lunar dawn]

verify game files and update gpu drivers i guess

[lean escarp]

C:\Users\ >>

[quick locust]

~/home/

😛

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-drunk-santa-drunk-santa-christmas-gif-19355707

[prisma anvil]

Get the alderlake @toxic wigeon

Zen3d is the last of am4. Z690 u can support alderlake and raptor lake.

Also b550 will support zen3d I am taking all bets.

Also if you are into oc a 10th gen intel will match zen3.

And alderlake laps both zen3 and 10th gen.

Fun fact I actually max tuned both 5600X and 10600k before. Actually max tune, not gamers nexus "max tune "

And they perform around the same.

[latent light]

Zen 3D will likely be supported all the way back to B450 and maybe even 300 series with select brands

[prisma anvil]

That's awsome.

Anyone with zen2 should hop on zen3d

0 questions asked

I am max tunning an alderlake next month so I can't wait to see how mad it is.

Hopefully I get 4000 cl16 at least in gear 1

[humble iris]

You mean there won't be sub $1000.00 CPUs like X299/X99/X79/X58?

[prisma anvil]

Nope.

[latent light]

DDR5 kits should be much faster by the time Zen 4 and Raptor-Lake are ready

[prisma anvil]

Remember when msrp of 9980xe was 2x more than 10980xe? Even tho they are basically the same?

[humble iris]

I'm not going for server, just workstation/HEDT

[prisma anvil]

U really think Intel will have good pricing in 1st generation of competitive chip?

Share holder > you

I hope ddr5 is. Cause currently ddr5 is non existence

And micron ddr5 are a joke.

[latent light]

I'd go for Threadripper 5000, the motherboards will have 2 CPU sockets

Scales up to 128 cores on a single system

Many PCIe lanes

[prisma anvil]

Only if u get hynix ddr5 but they are more rare than strix 3080

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/specifications-of-amd-threadripper-pro-5000wx-leaked?

[humble iris]

Is that a dual chip like EPYC?

[latent light]

Yes

[humble iris]

nice

[prisma anvil]

Will they sell that to normal consumers tho?

[humble iris]

$20,000.00 chip?

I'm thinking like 500-700 max for me on CPU

[prisma anvil]

U ain't getting any new new with 500-700

lol

Better off with 12900k

[latent light]

Dual socket config would be cheaper than a Epyc system but much more expensive than a single CPU socket

[humble iris]

not enough lanes

[prisma anvil]

But none of the stuff coming out will be 500-700 usd

Taking any bet

[humble iris]

socket 2066 had that price range, are they just going to not have HEDT anymore go straight MainStream to Server

[latent light]

16-core Threadripper 5955X gonna cost more than $800

[prisma anvil]

I think hedt is dying.

Gets eaten up by mainstream

[humble iris]

20 lanes just useless for me

[latent light]

Threadripper 3000 is still thriving for HEDT

[prisma anvil]

For Intel I mean

[humble iris]

I'm running 3 NVMe, 10 SATA, GPU, Sound Card, Audio Interface and still have lanes left over.

no M.2 slots either

[latent light]

X670 for Ryzen 6000 supposedly has twice as many lanes as X570 motherboards

[prisma anvil]

We will wait and see.

[humble iris]

also the fact it's PCIe5.0 will be nice. I'm still on 3.0

[prisma anvil]

Meanwhile I'll go watch moore's law is dead

[humble iris]

Why in the Heck is there an i5 for X299 with only 16 lanes? that is just ignorant

7640X

[quick locust]

intel hedt is currently quite old

uarch wise

[prisma anvil]

Sadly still the best if u are hedting and gaming.

[humble iris]

10980xe is still very powerful

[prisma anvil]

It will do OK in games and do lanes

[humble iris]

but yeah a little old

2 years

[prisma anvil]

I oc ed my friend 6600k

Same exact behavior as my 10850k

Intel architecture wise didn't do Jack from 2015-2019

6-10th gen all using skylake cores.

[humble iris]

I know, I think they will come back hard, and hopefully affordable

I don't mind the refresher as long it's powerful and efficient

[quick locust]

well they did with alder lake

but HEDT will be a bit

10980xe is ancient uarch by comparison

[humble iris]

X299 platform stagnation

however, at least a lot of choices for upgrading cpu, and not board and ram, as long it's worth the cost of a cpu

sometimes cheaper and better to upgrade platform

4 generations of CPU on 1 socket is not a terrible thing.

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-6900hx-6nm-zen3-apu-to-feature-radeon-680m-navi2-igpu

[quick locust]

cool

680M?

Their naming sometimes..

[latent light]

RX 680M I think

I hope it's faster than a mobile RX 580 if they name it like that

[plucky token]

https://youtu.be/69uT90tEJdE

[quick locust]

nice

[dire steeple]

can someone help, I just got a series s and loaded up 2042 x and s edition but it's brining me through the intro again even tho I've already have save data on the xbox one edition

[vital hornet]

Oh i forgot they launched that today

[toxic wigeon]

Its gonna do the intro regardless on a new console

[still quartz]

did all and nothing worked '0'

[merry stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693067382792650835/923920232752500836/IMG_1541.jpg

do i need an extra 8 pin in my motherboard?

[rotund sorrel]

What's ur CPU ?

[merry stone]

i7 11700k

@rotund sorrel

[rotund sorrel]

Idk for sure

maybe check website

[merry stone]

what website

[rotund sorrel]

Intel

For official requirements

[merry stone]

to see if i need 2 8 pins?

[quick locust]

Usually just one requirred, but I'd use both 8 pin cpu

Might warn you on startup if it isn't enough

[merry stone]

idk dude

how are people getting 150+ fps on bf5 ultra settings

and im getting that on low

[supple bane]

Not too hard

3060ti would get that on 1080p

[merry stone]

well whats my issue then

cause idk

[supple bane]

What are your specs?

[merry stone]

rtx 3070 i7 11700k

16gb ram

3600

my temps are always below 65

[supple bane]

1440p or 1080p?

[merry stone]

1080

[supple bane]

Do you have ffr on?

[merry stone]

whats ffr?

[quick locust]

future frame rendering

[merry stone]

i dont think so

[supple bane]

Enable it

[merry stone]

yeah i have ffr on

always had it on

[supple bane]

I assume you do have dual channel ram?

[merry stone]

wdym

[supple bane]

You have 2 sticks

Not 1

[merry stone]

yes

2

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/48926080

this is my benchmark

if you wanna see if anything is off

[quick locust]

userbenchmark is useless

[merry stone]

why

[supple bane]

You dont have xmp on

That would get you a few more fps

[merry stone]

whats xmp

ive heard if you have a overclocked cpu

you need 2 8 pins

and my cpu is overclocked

[supple bane]

Nah

Is your ram in slots 2 and 4 on the motherboard?

[quick locust]

a profile for your RAM kit

enable it in bios

[merry stone]

yeah

[supple bane]

Well only thing userbenchmark shows being wrong is your ram is under performing

So enable xmp and see if it helps

Might give you 15 fps ish

[merry stone]

alright ill try that

[supple bane]

Oh your cpu is underperforming too, but i wouldnt know why

4.7 ghz boost is good for an 11700k

[quick locust]

stock settings without mce

i guess

compared to people OCing

[supple bane]

I guess

[quick locust]

plus performing worse due to no xmp

[merry stone]

alright i just turned xmp on

do you want me to userbenchmark now to see if theres a difference?

[supple bane]

Well the difference on userbenchmark will be huge

So just play the game :p

[merry stone]

oce servers will be dead

its 1:27am

i think you just fixed it

holy shit

@supple bane thank you so fucking much bro

holy shit

[supple bane]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-bowing-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-gif-5632990

[humble iris]

I woke up to this ad on facebook, and I'm stoked this is a true motherboard. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/Workstation/Pro-WS-WRX80E-SAGE-SE-WIFI/

8 channel memory

Only problem is board and CPU starting at around $2000.00 not including memory

[latent light]

WRX80 motherboards been out for over a year now lol

[pale quartz]

never use userbenchmark btw

[quick locust]

It's awful

[latent light]

I heard storage drive benchmarks are decent on there

CPU and GPU benchmarks seem biased tho

[prisma anvil]

Story just use crystal disk mark.

Everything else is based

[eager sun]

userbenchmark is THE WORST site on the internet for comparing anything

what it says about your hardware doesnt even have a meaning what is a 236% ssd score supposed to tell me lmao

[latent light]

Userbenchmark is good for one thing only, to see if all of your hardware is running comparable to expected performance

No other site nor app really does that

[prisma anvil]

I think I ran user benchmark once.

[eager sun]

i just use youtube for that and type in my specs + the game i play at least that doesnt give me random numbers where nobody knows wehere they came from

[eager sun]

same to confirm how bad and useless it is

[latent light]

Don't use Underbenchmark to compare different hardware. EVER

[prisma anvil]

UserBenchmarks: Game 237%, Desk 110%, Work 260%
CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K - 108%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080 - 225.2%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 308.6%
SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB - 117.8%
HDD: WD Blue 2TB (2015) - 79.5%
RAM: Corsair CMW16GX4M2C3200C16 4x8GB - 101.5%
MBD: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WIFI)

Found it lol

Oh this was before I broke my motherboard

Nice

[eager sun]

what is that scoring system wtf are 308% ssd perfromance

[latent light]

Well 100% would be the average score across the entire database

[prime jasper]

It means that instead of buying 2,36 SSDs of a different brand, I can just use this 1 SSD

😳

[prisma anvil]

[latent light]

308% SSD performance means you are 208% higher than the average SSD score

[prisma anvil]

I wonder what my score now will be since my ram is now tuned to oblivion

[eager sun]

how does a 11700k end up at 98% then ?

[latent light]

Underperforming perhaps

[eager sun]

i bet my entire bank account that his cpu is performing just like every other 11700k

gonna run it for fun i think last time it thought my ssd is broken or smth and didnt spit out a "score" for it

[latent light]

Average bench for 11700K on there is 102%

Gimmie that bank money

[eager sun]

so an 11700k is 2% above the average cpu yeah nah

[latent light]

Nah not average CPU

[eager sun]

2% above the average score* ?

gonna end dc for them max percentages brb xd

[quick locust]

Stock they should always perform close ish

[prisma anvil]

Lol

[quick locust]

Unless motherboard suck

[prisma anvil]

I helped oc ed a 11700k in this discord

Man the clock speed sucked

The sp was in the 40s

[latent light]

11th gen sucks

[quick locust]

Yeah

Maybe wouldn't have if it was on 10nm

But meh

Should have could have

Mess of a gen

[latent light]

If 11th gen was on 10nm, 12th gen wouldn't seem so great lol

[prisma anvil]

I actually want to get 12th gen now lol

[latent light]

Backporting nodes for a whole generation is a big no-no

[prisma anvil]

I think intel will do more backporting in the future

[quick locust]

Eh

[latent light]

11th gen 10nm would of been faster than Zen 3

[quick locust]

Not for a bit

10nm is excellent rn

[prisma anvil]

I hope not lol

[quick locust]

TGL-H is tood too

Good*

[prisma anvil]

yeah 10nm aka intel 7 is like a tiny tiny bit denser than tsmc 7nm

[latent light]

I'm excited for CES, so many keynotes but AMD is gonna be the spotlight

[quick locust]

Depends if intel shows gpus as well

👀

[prisma anvil]

they better!

[bitter bloom]

hi

[latent light]

Intel pulled out of CES @quick locust

[prisma anvil]

I am excited to personally max tune alderlake myself

[eager sun]

11700k is a prebinned shit 11900k absolutely non existent oc pontential literally guaranteed

[quick locust]

I wish intel gpu would be on intel 10nm though

Instead of overbooked tsmc 7

But meh

[prisma anvil]

oh I know, like how 10850k and 10900k is but some gets lucky and can hit 5.1 ghz all core within a safe voltage

[latent light]

Intel might be pushing back Arc GPU announcement to March

[eager sun]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/49043146

9900k > 11700k ?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

Cooler name

[prisma anvil]

u are at 4000 cl15 as well?

nice

[supple bane]

what clock are you running on that 1080?

[prime jasper]

24h lol

[eager sun]

didnt oc them yet trying going for 4600mhz c17 or something for them MAX BANDWIDTH

[prisma anvil]

4000 cl15 is xmp?

[eager sun]

yes

[prisma anvil]

I see. glad to see there are more kits with these xmp other than gskill

[eager sun]

its a gskill kit

[eager sun]

2130 core

[prisma anvil]

w8 u have g skill

nvm LOL

4600 c17 bruh

u on 9900k?

[eager sun]

i had 4000C19 patriots before, they ran 4400 C17-16-16-36 at 1.5V

[eager sun]

yes

[prisma anvil]

oh I see u have apex. wish ur cpu mem controller is a god bin

[eager sun]

trying its not running like that yet

[prisma anvil]

nice!

I am on 4x8 so I wall at 4000 cl15 15 15 34 at 1.5V

[prime jasper]

All that effort for a 1% uplift

[latent light]

i5-12400 is faster, cooler, more efficient and cheaper than Ryzen 5 5600X

[eager sun]

i did a quick test at 4600c18 once didnt spit errors right away so i have hope

[prisma anvil]

maybe more vccsa?

[supple bane]

its not about the uplift its about the fun of it

big numbers go brrrrr basically

[prisma anvil]

I think u needs around 1.6V on the ram or more

[quick locust]

Ive not gotten 4000 to work yet

On this laptop

Desktop

Bruh

[prisma anvil]

Bruh

[quick locust]

3866 is highest I've gotten so far

[eager sun]

really good but getting more out with 4 sticks prob not gonna happen, 4 slot mainboard and 4 sticks just hell for imc

[quick locust]

I could try 3900

[prisma anvil]

whats ur cpu again? takmikill

[quick locust]

8700K

[prisma anvil]

yeah my vccsa is already 1.4v anything more I am not comfortable with

also I am on strix e so i think my board is holding me back

[eager sun]

there is quite a big fps difference between me and my brother in bf2042 same setup he even has a 1080ti but his ram is 3200c15

[prisma anvil]

oh ram oc in 2042 is OP

[eager sun]

i just checked yerterday its actually bdie on his ram so im gonna try my best to get them max ram oc for him

[prisma anvil]

3200 cl15 bdie

nice!

[eager sun]

yea i had the same kit once

[prisma anvil]

the bin is usually 3200 cl14

[eager sun]

had micron or smth shit went +100mhz then died

[prisma anvil]

I am trying to get my friend some 3600 cl14 on his build

[quick locust]

I run 3600 cl 14 rn

Pretty good

[prisma anvil]

so he can enable xmp and call it a day

[eager sun]

first i checked cpu z it said samsung then i was like wait samsung with 3200 c15 15 15 35 lets go if that isnt bdie then checked the taiphoon burner spd reader thing bdie

[prisma anvil]

15 flat is def bdie

when subtiming is flat is just bdie for ddr4

[quick locust]

3600 14 14 14 28

[eager sun]

yea thats what i thought other kits dont do trcd and stuff so low and close to tcl

[latent light]

My kit is 3000 CL15, got another that is 2666 CL15

The 2666 kit is unstable at XMP lmao

[quick locust]

My previous kit was 2400 cl 18

[supple bane]

my current kit is 2133 cl 13

[quick locust]

Slow

[supple bane]

thanks

itll be going soon

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/gamers-nexus-nvidia-3080ti-gpu-money-printer-gif-21792843

[supple bane]

its can do 2400 potentially 2666 with xmp timings tho

[prime jasper]

I got 3200 cl16, they’ve even got rgb

[prisma anvil]

https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821439?Description=OLOy Blade 3600 cl14&cm_re=OLOy_Blade 3600 cl14-_-20-821-439-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236778?Description=3600 cl14&cm_re=3600_cl14-_-20-236-778-_-Product

check out these dom plat!

[eager sun]

there once was a gkill kit just like that but at 1.4v doesnt exist anymore though all sold out

[prisma anvil]

I think my friend will go dom plat

what in the god bin!

1.4v

[eager sun]

nvm it was cl14 15 15 35 but still 3600c14 at 1.4

[prisma anvil]

I mean I stabled 4133 cl15 with 1.5 vccsa and 1.6v dimm

[latent light]

Waiting for DDR5-8000 CL32 kits before I upgrade

[prisma anvil]

4x8 life

[quick locust]

I use a gskill kit

3600 15 at stock

But i lowered timings a bit

[prisma anvil]

[quick locust]

Not that it does much difference

Gskill trident z red/silver

[eager sun]

there are some stupid fast ddr5 kits already 100gb/s read write and copy when ocd they cost 700€ though when your lucky and they are available

[prisma anvil]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance-PRO-RGB-Black/p/CMW16GX4M2K3600C16#tab-tech-specs

this is the kit I used

i got 2 set of those

[supple bane]

exact kit ill be getting except white

[stark gazelle]

I have an issue with my connection: My Ps5 has a very poor wireless connection, less than 10 mbps, although when I do a Speedtest I get 250 mbps. I tried everything, like restarting the Wi-Fi, bringing it closer etc. nothing changed. Any idea?

[midnight crypt]

sell it

[stark gazelle]

Lmao

[eager sun]

Get a wifi repeater with a lan output and put it in your room

[quick locust]

That or just direct ethernet

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russias-biggest-bank-tests-elbrus-cpu-finds-it-unacceptable

[latent light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-5-16-performance-boost-amd-ryzen-apus

[vast valley]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQN2K3

Thoughts?

[latent light]

You're gonna pay $800 for a 3060?

[vital hornet]

Hell yeah

[pale quartz]

fyi not all bdie is created equal

from the sounds of yours the bin of memory is pretty bad, it won't do great timings if its 15 base at 3200

[supple bane]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwRC2V

Wait to get a better deal on a gpu

[eager sun]

yea sure its prob not gonna beat 3600c14 or 4000c15 kits but still infinitely better than some other random ic

[pale quartz]

the "Samsung bdie is always great" myth is permeative amongst the PC crowd when it's simply not true that bdie is always great

infact its pretty shit unless you get top quality bins

overclocking headroom is horrendous with tight timings

[vast valley]

Nah, it's just there as a placeholder

[pale quartz]

no, it won't beat cl163600 kits either

you misunderstand how XMP timings are assigned, your kit is pretty normal

[eager sun]

it booted 4000c15 i dont think any other kit would get anywhere near that

[pale quartz]

you're wrong

my kit can do that pretty easily

[eager sun]

there are a lot of low bin bdie kits that completely shred

[pale quartz]

and also no

booting =/= stable

[eager sun]

especially early kits where the high bins didnt exist yet

[pale quartz]

just because your memory boots doesn't mean it's stable infact on your XMP timings you will have memory corruption sooner or later

Samsung is notorious for not having high clocks so your kit isn't stable

what bdie is good at is tight subtimings especially on the tRCD overclocking headroom doesn't exist on mediocre bins like yours

[latent light]

Micron better at high clocks?

[pale quartz]

yes a lot better

bdie and micron e die isn't even close it's a total bloodbath for higher clocks

[latent light]

Samsung memory and storage are very overrated

[pale quartz]

their storage is pretty decent simply down to MLC

but those were the early NAND days

manufacturers have caught up

[eager sun]

i had the exact same kit with random micron it didnt go beyond 3400 no voltage scaling nothing also booting 4000c15 is quite the achievement even if it wont run 4000c15 with the logic you have my ram kit would need to boot 5000 or smth to be stable at 4400 xd

[quick locust]

I only have one MLC ssd

but it's old

[pale quartz]

as I said no memory is created equal

it is not an "achievement" to boot memory

[quick locust]

only if you made it yourself

[pale quartz]

I can get my kit to boot at CL164500MHz, is it stable? absolutely not

[eager sun]

if i can boot 4000c15 it wont max out at 3400 c15 for stable clocks bro xd

[pale quartz]

yes it will, because that's literally why it's XMP is assigned by the manufacturer as so

you aren't better than the manufacturer for stability testing

infact you've done absolutely 0 testing for stability whatsoever

"if I can boot cl155000 then it means it won't max" = flawed logic and not having a clue about how memory overclocking works

[eager sun]

look at 6700k or other early intel 14nm world records on hwbot literally full of low bin bdie kits that completely destroy even modern kits

[rotund sorrel]

[pale quartz]

...

ok?

because those are CPU benchmarks and not memory?

literally CPU overclocking benchmarks?

[eager sun]

look at mem focused stuff if you want wont make any difference

superpi for example

[pale quartz]

lol

superpi is literally a computational heavy task, not memory

do you even know the difference between computational and memory bandwidth?

[quick locust]

[eager sun]

its the most memory focused benchmark on entire hwbot xd running on a single cpu core

[pale quartz]

right it's almost as if superpi even state on HWbot that the entire reason they run those benchmarks is to test voltage scaling on the CPU for single cores

and it has absolutely nothing to do with memory

[eager sun]

what am i reading you cant get a more memory focused benchmark

and its ran for the same reason an any other benchmark score as high as possible

[quick locust]

phoronix has better tests

[pale quartz]

I don't think you're aware of why benchmarks exist to begin with, and unsurprisingly your kit would crash your system testing even a remotely "memory heavy" benchmark

[eager sun]

not for some random "testing"

[pale quartz]

because it is not stable

you probably won't even get memory sensitive games to run on that nevermind actual benchmarks

[pale quartz]

lol yeah it's not as if membench exists

[latent light]

Some people think a Cinebench run is enough for stability

[pale quartz]

literally a benchmark designed to test memory scaling

no that's worse than superpi

[eager sun]

im talking hwbot where its about comp benchmarking

why do you ignore that low bin bdie kits from 2015 can beat any modern 4000+ bin

[pale quartz]

then you have no idea what you're talking about

[latent light]

If it runs runescape it's stable enough for me

[quick locust]

stubborn are we?

[pale quartz]

because memory has nothing to do with computational power

lol

[eager sun]

superpi -> more mem bandwidth + less latency -> higher score where exactly is the ram doesnt matter part

[pale quartz]

..

[eager sun]

and if a low bin kit from 2015 clocks higher than a modern one its better for superpi

[pale quartz]

you're funny I'll give you that, it's almost as if you didn't actually bothering the superpi documentation

and designed to factor in what actually weights valid superpi scores

had you done your due diligence you would understand that all scores on superpi are validated before publication to avoid manipulation with things like memory because tests have to be standardised

[eager sun]

if mem is always down to the xmp why do 3200c14 kits literally run above 4000 with stupid low timings for daily use ?

[pale quartz]

which is why you clearly don't know what even the superpi test does lol

or why it was made

[eager sun]

or even get 6000mhz mem freq records

[eager sun]

bruv it calculates pi with some algorithm and heavily scales with faster memory

[pale quartz]

yeah it's almost as if ultra binned kits exist that are designed to do just that

"some algorithm"

lol man come on

the algorithm is there to test CPU computation

[eager sun]

yes but why didnt the 3200c124 kit end up as some uber xmp bin for 300€ more ?

[pale quartz]

why are you asking arbitrary questions?

[eager sun]

and the cpu doesnt care about memory ?

[pale quartz]

that I and nobody else ever have the answer to?

[pale quartz]

no because these tests are standardised

[eager sun]

why dont you run superpi once with xmp and once without then explain time difference

please do that

[pale quartz]

memory does not matter because you are not allowed to manipulate it

I understand I'm talking to a brick wall

[eager sun]

why dont you run superpi once with xmp and once without then explain time difference

do it

and explain

[pale quartz]

I could get the developer of superpi in here and you probably still wouldn't even listen tbh

stubborn arrogance always never works

[eager sun]

why dont you do it

its literally proof that your talking some weird stuff everyone can do at home

[quick locust]

[pale quartz]

@quick locust let's get 5000MHz kits booting at 2V then use that for daily use

stable! it boots!

[quick locust]

yikes

[eager sun]

na na dont talk about something else now

run superpi once with xmp and once without then explain time difference

then youm can tell me how dumb i am again

[quick locust]

5000 MT/s

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

frq is half

[pale quartz]

10000GHz memory!!

just run the CAS at 100

[quick locust]

ddr5 in stores near you

jk

[pale quartz]

I've actually not seen any DDR5 in stock since it came out

scary

[prisma anvil]

I use tm5 3+ cycles and hci memtest overnight around 400+%

[eager sun]

@pale quartz "The 100% RAM OC. Overclocking a cheap 4GB 2133 DDR4 stick to 4266MHz." buildzoid video he even ran memtest so your happy and its daily stable

[pale quartz]

what you actually test memory? that's heresy! no no run superpi it's there for testing memory!

!!

[eager sun]

oh and explain pls how does that work if the kit doesnt even have xmp xd

[prisma anvil]

Yall. Need to chill lol

Also yes I get cinebench is not the best stability test. But for gaming stable its fine.

U don't need to do prime95 small fft avx2 enabled lol u tryna burn the house down?

[eager sun]

deco just not responding after i tell him how to see that he is wrong about superpi and his "xmp 100% matters and determines ram oc potential" theory

[quick locust]

yes I am

[prisma anvil]

I am gaming, I need to make my cpu linpaxk stable.

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/bqFom.gif

[prisma anvil]

Come on

[pale quartz]

not really I'm just not wanting to waste my time when I've already said the same thing 5 times in a row

you can't remove a brick wall, you climb over it

[prisma anvil]

Also I am not involving in yall argument

[pale quartz]

run it with e cores!

[eager sun]

well its wrong or what am i not understanding you say memory is irrelevant for superpi, superpi says better memory -> better score -> your wrong and the better memory -> better score you can see with your own eyes

[pale quartz]

no you are not understanding

because and I'll say it one, final time

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/stubborn-donkey-you-are-a-stubborn-ass-pull-wont-move-gif-16200365

[eager sun]

ok then explain again please

[pale quartz]

those scores are not valid because superpi scores are standardised with memory, you are not allowed to publish scores which have manipulated memory because they are not pertinent to superpi's purpose

and that's the final time I'm saying it

[eager sun]

its an overclocking benchmark you oc cpu and memory to get the best score

[pale quartz]

..

[quick locust]

sighs

[eager sun]

thats literally what you do with every benchmak

[quick locust]

wonder if they've made a new standard for ddr5

or will make one

too early now i guess

[pale quartz]

has membench been updated for DDR5? I've not checked

[quick locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Only one platform with it yet anyway

[pale quartz]

apparently not

[eager sun]

ive never read so much wrong stuff about memory and superpi in my life

[pale quartz]

it's fine just run it according to intel certified benchmarks

[eager sun]

gonna come back with 3600c14 out of my 3200c15 kit

already interested in how you explain that

[pale quartz]

I'm sure they'll use the score at least if you do

[eager sun]

@pale quartz you are saying superpi has some standard for memory what does it include ? what memory settings you are allowed to use or what does it standardize ? from your bio you should actually know stuff but doesnt seem like it

[pale quartz]

@quick locust

[pale quartz]

intel benchmarks!

[quick locust]

you mean ddr4

[eager sun]

really bad res cant see anthing

[pale quartz]

oh no it's ddr3 intentionally

[quick locust]

but its 4800H

[pale quartz]

precisely because I'm sure if they could get away with it they would claim it was ran on ddr3 even when the chipset doesn't support it

[quick locust]

7,4 GHz 8700K in superpi

[eager sun]

hello pls tell me @pale quartz you are saying superpi has some standard for memory what does it include ? what memory settings you are allowed to use or what does it standardize ? from your bio you should actually know stuff but doesnt seem like it

[pale quartz]

if it isn't obvious I'm not talking to someone who has the audacity to try and criticise someone when they're wrong to begin with

[eager sun]

yea thats thow those chips run on ln2 pretty sure that score is done with liquid helium though

[pale quartz]

your stubbornness is really gross, and I'm not dealing with it

[eager sun]

what is the standard

[pale quartz]

I've literally just told you what the standard is, 6 times

[eager sun]

everyone is running widely different memory setting son the hwbot rankings

[pale quartz]

if you can't be bothered listening, that's not my problem

[eager sun]

where

just mark the answer

[pale quartz]

because hwbot scores are not validated scores

lol

[eager sun]

the only reason i brought it up is to show you that low bin ram can perform just as good or even better than all those modern 4000+ bins ?

i care about the score there and nothing else

[pale quartz]

yes and as before, you refused to listen, I explicitly told you the developer certifies scores for a reason, and that reason is because as evident by this entire conversation people extrapolate, falsely, that superpi is a useful tool for "memory benchmarking" when it isn't, the algorithm is not built around memory and was never designed to accommodate such things, he has no control over whatever result is on HWbot

if you want to benchmark memory, do it right, not using tools which have nothing to do with it

[eager sun]

hm why dont you say something about what the point actually is ?

"low bin ram can perform just as good or even better than all those modern 4000+ bins"

[pale quartz]

what?

yeah not continuing with this, the 7th time and for nothing

[eager sun]

xd thats the whle point of our discussion and its obvious after looking at hwbot for one second

i dont even know how you came up with the other stuff

[pale quartz]

..

anyways

@quick locust https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=amd-pstate-v7

[quick locust]

ya saw

good news

[pale quartz]

is it CPPC2?

[quick locust]

intel should update theirs a bit

[eager sun]

you managed to type 6 books and not say anything about the actual point

[pale quartz]

it's surprising how much intel have left theirs in the doldrums for Linux tbh

[eager sun]

and now your ending after i ask you for the specifically

[pale quartz]

I know AMD only started Linux patches last year, but like

intel just left it for dead

[quick locust]

No iirc

[eager sun]

one sentence is enough but instead you type 6 books

coward

[pale quartz]

odd.. they're patching CPPC only

[quick locust]

intel has a lot of support for linux but

alder lake needs a patch

since if you OC it puts all cores to same priority

[pale quartz]

wait has ADL not been patched yet lmao

[quick locust]

which makes software use E-cores when they shouldnt

and since asus has messed with their acpi that's all the time on their boards

Not sure if they updated that issue yet

[pale quartz]

that's dumb af the kernel should have been updated for ADL months ago

nevermind not bothering

[quick locust]

yeah but OC makes alll cores same priority

or ASUS's dumb acpi

[pale quartz]

p cores forever! 6ghz e cores!

[quick locust]

https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/01/linux_5_16_alder_lake/

[pale quartz]

The goal of this on-by-default scheduling system is to balance the threads running in each cluster.
so they just gave schedutil priority 0 of both layers

yay!

[quick locust]

lol

[pale quartz]

they integrate a goddamn scanner in silicon but just go leave software support till later

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows11-outperforms-linux-with-alder-lake

[pale quartz]

I'll never understand intel sometimes

[quick locust]

they're usually far ahead in gpu drivers on linux

but they messed up with scheduler

ah they fixed the OC/acpi issue

just not the cluster aware scheduler yet

iirc

"When Turbo Boost Max is disabled, the ACPI CPPC's highest performance state is applied to all cores. Unfortunately, this causes the operating system to think all cores have the same performance value, leading to performance degradation."

this was when phoronix tested it

[pale quartz]

give them till when raptor lake comes out to actually bother implementing the scheduler at this point

[quick locust]

they're already working on raptor lake patch

[pale quartz]

..

that was supposed to be a joke

[quick locust]

hopefully will be less of a mess

[pale quartz]

what kind of nonsense is this their first big.little design and that's coming second to RPL now

[quick locust]

lol

Nah they've had a few

[pale quartz]

I know LF was a mess on Linux patches too but like

it's been years

[quick locust]

wonder how Strix Point will do on linux

[pale quartz]

depends how CCX scheduling is handled tbh

[quick locust]

yea

[pale quartz]

seems theyre going the ADL route, without cores

should work out pretty well for laptops since there's no skylake level core at work

[quick locust]

hopefully faster than my ryzen 3700U in windows 11

pain

[pale quartz]

and that's why you don't buy Zen+ anymore

[quick locust]

2 yrs ago

could have waited for zen2 laptops

but could have should have didn't

[pale quartz]

impatience

hope you're enjoying these celeron level base clocks

[quick locust]

lol

1.3 GHz

no usb-c on this laptop either

so i could upgrade someday

[pale quartz]

not even the GPU?

[quick locust]

only integrated

[humble iris]

Why is that funny?

[pale quartz]

[humble iris]

Since I started playing BF2042 I have had over 2GB of memory error minidump files.

[autumn vector]

i just got this game and i’m not getting the greatest fps on my 1050 ti does anybody have any suggestions on what i should upgrade to or do?

[eager sun]

if you have a 1050ti what cpu do you have ? the game is heavily cpu bound so your cpu is probably the main problem you can test that and compare 128player server fps to 64player server fps

[autumn vector]

oh yeah didn’t think abt the cpu

[near rune]

This game you mean the latest battlefield?

[autumn vector]

yeah bf2042

[near rune]

That game is heavy on the cpu

If you have the best cpu in the market the cpu will still be the bottleneck

[autumn vector]

i’ve been meaning to get a new cpu anyways one of my cpu pins broke

[near rune]

Not the gpu

[autumn vector]

i can’t remember my cpu atm i can never remember but i dont think it’s that bad

[eager sun]

check in task manager what

[supple bane]

if its paired with a 1050ti its likely not up to spec for bf2042

[autumn vector]

not on my pc atm i think it could be a ryzen 5 3600 i think? if that’s even a cpu i can’t remember

[supple bane]

but yeah, this

oh.

that is a cpu

[autumn vector]

it checks the min requirements

yeah ik i just can’t remember the name

[near rune]

Minimum just means like 30fps 1080p

Unplayable

[autumn vector]

oh duck i just assumed it meant 60fps ;-;

[autumn vector]

it’s a ryzen 7 2700X

the recommended requirements are a ryzen 7 2700 as well so it must be the gpu

[supple bane]

does specs still work ?

!!specs

[autumn vector]

and the recommended requirements is a 3060 and ain’t no way i’m getting one of those anytime soon

[silent oasis]

Find out about the minimum and recommended specs for Battlefield 2042 on PC. https://i.imgur.com/FEjPYFF.png

[eager sun]

yea early ryzen is far far away from a good gaming cpu but check 128 vs 64 player server fps to be sure its not 100% obvious what the bottleneck is cpu or gpu

[autumn vector]

it’s late for me so i might do that tmrw or whenever i get a chance

[eager sun]

if its the gpu you would expect fps to stay the same, if its cpu you would expect more fps

[supple bane]

im guessing its the gpu in his case

[autumn vector]

i’ll get back to u tmrw or the next day thanks for the help anyways

[supple bane]

a 1050ti really isnt cut out for that game, even in 1080p

[autumn vector]

wat gpu should i be upgrading to

[supple bane]

with a 2700x, a 3060 ti max

maybe 3070

[autumn vector]

rly?

[supple bane]

after that youll need a cpu upgrade

[autumn vector]

there super pricy ffs

[supple bane]

im just saying not to go above those

[autumn vector]

is there anything elsei could get that will run 60fps 1080p

oh ok

i thought u were saying don’t go below xD

[supple bane]

60 fps at 1080p isnt a hard feat to get lol

[autumn vector]

well for my 1050ti it is ;-;

fr tho wat should i be upgrading to

[supple bane]

if you want 60 fps at 1080p literally anything made in the last 300 years

1070 or above i guess ?

[autumn vector]

oh ok

thanks for the help

[supple bane]

youll need to get such a gpu used tho, they arent sold anymore

[autumn vector]

yeah ik i have a friend in the gpu market as well they’re impossible to come by these days

[eager sun]

how are your fps atm ?

[autumn vector]

it was like 30-40 fps and even changing my my resalution rly low didn’t even get it over 50

on low settings

[eager sun]

really seems like cpu problem tbh

[autumn vector]

rly?

[supple bane]

i drop into that range on a 2070

cpu bottleneck be like

on 1440p tho

[autumn vector]

my cpu meets recommended system requirements tho

but my gpu doesn’t

[supple bane]

r5 2600 really eint cut out for this game let me tell ya

[eager sun]

just go really low on res like hd or even lower if your fps dont get significanlty better compared to full hd its the cpu

theoretically your fps should double compare to full hd

[supple bane]

or increase the settings, the fps will stay the same if its a cpu bottleneck

[autumn vector]

ok i’ll try that

[supple bane]

both work

[eager sun]

iirc 2700x literally has worse single core performance than a 6700k from 2015

and thats baaaad

[supple bane]

howd you think i feel with a 2600

https://tenor.com/view/quby-chan-crying-sad-tear-up-so-sad-gif-17010838

[eager sun]

early ryzen should have went straight to the bin at least for gaming

[eager sun]

ye just checked again 3years difference between these cpus btw 6700k 2015 - 2700x 2018

[prisma anvil]

I think zen2 still loses to 6700k in single core performance

Gaming wise

[supple bane]

itd still loose in games (especially bf) cuz 4 cores

[eager sun]

yea sure

[eager sun]

r5 3600 is better and somewhat useable

first and 2nd gen absolute nono though

massive ram latency is also a problem with ryzen even with zen3,, fortnite for example runs a lot better on intel also heavily scales with memory bandwidth and latency

[supple bane]

thoughts. 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18?

[eager sun]

bf2042 seems to really like fast memory as well not sure if its just bandwidth or also latency though

[eager sun]

frequency over latency

[prisma anvil]

I actually tested 3600 CL18 and latency is slightly better

Than 3200 cl16

Not by much tho

[supple bane]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kFxtmk

[eager sun]

frequency always carrying bandwith

[supple bane]

thoughts then?

[prisma anvil]

Both are Samsung cdie

[supple bane]

guess my budget

[prisma anvil]

650w. What gpu u using?

[supple bane]

2070

im on a 550w psu rn so dont tell me its not enough :P

[prisma anvil]

It is but what if in the future u got money for a big CHUNGUS

[supple bane]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7M6mdD

happy

10 pounds over budget now

[prisma anvil]

Cause Psu has like 10 years of warranty

The u got seasonic 12 years

Seasonic. The Heart of ur system

[quick locust]

lol

[prisma anvil]

Update the bios I would cause I saw old gigabyte bios is extra cursed

[eager sun]

there are really cheap bdie kits that will oc to the moon and outperform 3600c18 by a mile not gonna have fancy rgb though patriot viper steel 4000 c19 for example 100$ i would prefer that over some lighting

[supple bane]

i could get a seasonic focus gx for the same money as that corsair

no idea if its got the reviews behind the rm series or not tho

[quick locust]

my psu is a pretty old design

but good

[prisma anvil]

Both Psu are fine

Just saying u don't have to worry about swapping Psu again let's say 4 years later

[supple bane]

im aware.

im kinda supprised my current psu has lasted this long tbh

[prisma anvil]

How long?

[supple bane]

even on the website its listed as "perfect for a light office machine" iirc

i think its been going 4 years

[prisma anvil]

That's not that long tho

[supple bane]

i know its not

[prisma anvil]

Unless ur Psu is extra sus

[supple bane]

but it still surprises me

its the old style vs550

orange sticker not grey

[prisma anvil]

My cx750 bronze lasted 6+ years with 0 problem.

[supple bane]

this one is white :(

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/vs-series-config/p/CP-9020097-UK

overclocked cpu, ram and gpu go brr

[quick locust]

ram barely use power

[supple bane]

no but it still needs clean power

[quick locust]

it's nothing next to cpu and gpu

[eager sun]

with max oc my ram is like* 4W in a memory stress test

[supple bane]

this page is just pure sadness

[eager sun]

marketing is the worst thing about pc hardware

[supple bane]

ok so my original build called for a 12600kf, but by skimping out more on the motherboard i can squeeze in a 12700kf

worried now that cooler isnt gonna cut it

[prisma anvil]

Ur fine.

Gaming wise ur more than fine.

[trim sun]

What settings should I run on my new 3070?

[near rune]

Overclock settings?

I would leave those alone

[vast valley]

Oo, I found a new case

Looks clean too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GM4Gmk

Case looks small inside. Worried about airflow.

[prisma anvil]

Is front mesh?

Looks fine if it's mesh front

[slate talon]

Is anyone on the Series X and play on a gaming monitor? I'm looking at gaming monitors and want to know what some good recommendations are for monitors at a good price

[toxic wigeon]

I can drop what I use in a bit

I'm using the MSI G27CQ4

2560 x 1440, 165 hz with 1ms of response time

It's not much either

500 AUD

[slate talon]

Awesome, thank you!

What are some of the pros and cons of it for you?

[toxic wigeon]

So far it's all pros

It doesn't come with a speaker but

That's something that may be easily rectified with a headset or external speakers

[slate talon]

That's good to hear! I'm glad it's been a great experience so far. I'm skimming through several different ones trying to get a grasp of what is out there

[latent light]

Acer XV272 is good too

[slate talon]

Thanks, does yours have any pros or cons that stick out to you?

[humble iris]

My CPU is 7 years old and it does not bottleneck 2042. However, what Resolution and settings are they running it at? 1080P will be more CPU dependent which is what I run it at on RTX2080XC2Ultra there is no bottleneck, GPU at 100% CPU at 50/60% frame rate at average 90fps. DLSS/RT OFF cause that sucks for playing good.

.
Lamest thig ever is buying 2 VG279Q (IPS panels) Monitors on clearance, and find out they are not G-Sync compatible. However my old monitors VG278Q (TN panels) are. I was hoping to upgrade to IPS panels for really cheap, but you really have to read the fine print with a grain of salt. reading this I thought it was G-Sync Compatible.

"Supports both Adaptive-Sync with NVIDIA GeForce* graphics cards and FreeSync with AMD Radeon graphics cards *Compatible with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10 series, GTX 16 series, RTX 20 series and newer graphics cards"

[latent light]

Yeah I been seeing "G-Sync" monitors that are actually FreeSync with support for Nvidia

[humble iris]

Yeah my other 2 work great, but these IPS ones say Nvidia Adaptive Sync, but I don't see where to enable it. Also 3 displays make my card idle at 1200mhz instead of 300

it says G-Sync is enabled but not valid

[latent light]

Gotta look hard when buying real G-sync monitors

[humble iris]

No I knew they weren't G-Sync, But thought it was FreeSync G-Sync "Compatible"

https://www.pcegaming.com/images/net/VG278.VG279.JPG

[toxic wigeon]

One thing I've noticed is that there's less bottleneck when there are more cores

[humble iris]

Nvidia driver about a year ago or so allowed for FreeSync monitors to work with G-Sync, and they were validated

There's
G-Sync Ultimate
G-Sync
G-Sync Compatible Certified

Well it says it's on but not validated

I'll have to some testing, the IPS looks a bit better without even adjusting it. I had to jack with the TN settings for a couple days to get them looking good.

thats 4 1080P 144hz dispalys

The Matrix Has You. lol

[humble iris]

Maybe why mine doesn't bottleneck it's 6 cores / 12 threads

I should have a 10 core / 20 Thread in a week

[humble iris]

no way I could afford a true G-Sync monitor.

[prisma anvil]

yeah if u have 6 cores and 12 threads, ur good to go.

game uses 8threads

[humble iris]

👍

[pale quartz]

if this is just purely for console, the best "gaming" display is actually the LG C1

makes other monitors look like junk by its comparison

[pale quartz]

OS scheduling will move around other processes to "secondary" grade binned cores if they are available, which is why you'll see smoother gameplay/fewer bottlenecks on higher cores

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

To be honest I thought that along the lines.

[dawn tangle]

Its not letting me add a friend from xbox series x.

and Im on ps4 can old can be crossplay to new gen?

[marsh gull]

also costs more than 2500usd

[pale quartz]

for the higher size models yes

the 48 inch model is actually cost effective

[cursive ermine]

does amd ryzen 7 2700 meet recommended requirements for bf 2042???

not the X version

[pale quartz]

just unlock the power limit on yours it'll be more or less the same as a 2700x

[marsh gull]

how much is it?

[pale quartz]

$1.2k~

[marsh gull]

thats still a fucking lot for a monitor

[pale quartz]

not really

[marsh gull]

lmao my 5600x is overkill but my rx 6600 is just under haha

[pale quartz]

it's actually the average price for displays in that class range

[marsh gull]

i mean ig if the display is gud

[pale quartz]

no just by size resolution

[prime jasper]

Seen it on sale in Europe for like €900

[pale quartz]

if you think you're getting a 48 inch display for under $1000 you can think again

especially OLED

[pale quartz]

yeah it's gone down in price a lot

fantastic for the price aswell

[prime jasper]

48 inch, 4K OLED with HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HDMI 2.1. For €900 that’s a great purchase

I’d argue that even for €1100 that’s a great purchase, just try to get a discount somewhere

[pale quartz]

oh yeah definitely it makes other gaming monitors look like total scrapheap by its own existence worth every penny

[prime jasper]

Can’t wait for affordable 27 inch miniled monitors

[pale quartz]

LG C1 is being manufactured in smaller form factors aswell soon

[prime jasper]

How small?

[pale quartz]

last I was familiar with was 32 inch was being manufactured

[delicate reef]

Incorrect

LG unveiled their next lineup. 42' is coming.

I will say though. I love the LG C1, best display I've ever played on.

On sale rn iirc.

[delicate reef]

The best thing is the gsync, and actual 1.28ms which is the lowest on any display rn.

[pale quartz]

no it does exist, just not under the c1 name

it's LGs display Pro line that it got changed to

[delicate reef]

Best make sure it has all the features :P

The C1 replaces the CX, with game optimizer settings, brighter OLED panel and WebOS.

Also

[quick locust]

I'm still on 24 in TN

[pale quartz]

not surprising was only a matter of time till it came to TVs

[quick locust]

Not seen C1s in stock

[pale quartz]

attempt to appeal to the console crowd mainly

[pale quartz]

lot of them in stock here

surprisingly, actually given how popular it is

[quick locust]

My 24 in TN was 550 usd

So maybe I could upgrade to something bigger and better in future

[delicate reef]

[pale quartz]

550 for 24 tn

lmao talk about getting ripped off

[quick locust]

The 27 in ones was around 850

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

In 2016

[pale quartz]

very wise financial decision given prices dropped off a cliff mid 2017

[quick locust]

I'm kinda undecided to go VA or IPS next

[pale quartz]

VA if you're wanting deep blacks

[delicate reef]

IPS if you got lit room

[pale quartz]

IPS viewing angles

[quick locust]

Wouldn't have known back then

[delicate reef]

Think IPS has lightly better colors

Slightly

[pale quartz]

both are great anyways makes TN look like shit

[quick locust]

TN on monitor at least has much better angles than the TN on my laptop

[pale quartz]

well, cause it is

[quick locust]

Purple and blue is a mess on my laptop

[pale quartz]

probably just wait till nano IPS

well they already exist but just wait till the higher end models

[quick locust]

Yeah

Might go 27 in VA

32 might be too big for my desk as the top shelf would interfere

[pale quartz]

if you're going LED go QLED

there is a stark difference in colour quality

[delicate reef]

QLED is an expensive gimmick

Not logical

[pale quartz]

nah

[delicate reef]

Yes

[pale quartz]

I own 2 of them, there's a big difference

[delicate reef]

Watch reviews

No point

Rather OLED

[pale quartz]

OLED > QLED

[delicate reef]

DUH

[pale quartz]

but if you're going LED get QLED

[quick locust]

But yeah 550 usd in 2016 cause 1440p 165Hz with gsync module

[pale quartz]

OLED monitors basically don't exist at any reasonable price point

[delicate reef]

No sense in buying tech that will phase out

Not yet, but soon

I figure the 42 will be 999

[pale quartz]

they'll still be very expensive

they launch mid next year and it'll take probably till 2023 to come down

[delicate reef]

You buy into the luxury anyway

3 year burn in

1500 ain't shit tho every 3 years

[pale quartz]

hope you enjoyed buying into the gsync scam

[quick locust]

Lol

This cellular is too slow to load websites

Hm monitors are way cheaper now

This cost around same as mine

Random 1440p monitor, not one I would choose

Just same price ish

[toxic wigeon]

Can't wait till OLED becomes more affordable at least

[marsh gull]

27inch is really nice i got a 27' monitor for xmas its massive compared to my 24 inch

[vast valley]

Yeah, the front is mesh.

[lunar dawn]

does qled suffer from burn in like oled ?

[molten coral]

No

[latent light]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-6nm-navi-24-gpu-pictured-coming-soon-to-radeon-rx-6500xt-graphics-cards

Why would they put entry level GPU on newer silicon

That would make more sense to do with Navi 21 to combat the 3090Ti

[slate talon]

I want an affordable monitor, not a $3000 tv 😂

[delicate reef]

OLED POG

[lunar dawn]

only problem is burn in

thats the only problem with oled

[pale quartz]

it does not

[vital hornet]

i can't find it, but i remember seeing a chart from a manufacturer or something that was basically a timeline for oled development goals

and i think we're a few years away from perfecting oled

whatever that means

[lunar dawn]

tbh yes, oled costs a lot and suffers from burn in wich can appear after just a year of extensive use in some cases

that said oled image quality is amazing

[delicate reef]

Every 3 years

But 1500$ every 3 years is chump change to people who buy into this luxury

[lunar dawn]

not even 3 tbh

[delicate reef]

Even 1. I scalp 3090s for fun, it's nothing.

1500 is peanuts, please

Anyway, by that time, they'll be cheaper

[lunar dawn]

1500 is a cheap oled also

[delicate reef]

Yes, got the LG C1 for 1199

[vital hornet]

what if you dont play games on it tho lol

no static elements

[delicate reef]

It's not as bad then. The burn in happens from in game HUDs etc, lifebars, etc

Also, if anyone wants a 3080 watercooled evga, I got an unopened box msrp, won't tax ya

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3888-KL

[shy quail]

Can yous end it to France?

[prisma anvil]

I'm interested

[humble iris]

Everyone getting OLEDs and I'm just now upgrading to IPS lol...

[storm osprey]

id bet most people are still using LED technology

[quick locust]

for monitors yeah

[prisma anvil]

Ips gang gang

[humble iris]

I've only been using 144HZ TN panels for 3 years, before that I used 60HZ TN for 12 years 9 years of which were the same 2 1920x1200 displays. Before that was CRT or course. I just picked up 2 IPS monitors that are basically the same as the TN panels I currently use. only paid $175 each though. ASUS 278Q / 279Q

[polar current]

I have sent a friend request to a friend of mine but it has not reached him, although this is definitely his account.

can someone pleace help me?

[quick locust]

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[polar current]

this doesnt help

[mortal wadi]

anyone have recommendations for a good monitor for console

[radiant ridge]

If I do a fresh install of windows will my files like pictures and stuff like that on my windows drive be deleted?

[rotund sorrel]

If it's next gen Try to look for 4k@120hz

[latent light]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-5000-cpus-continue-to-outsell-intels-12th-gen-lineup-across-holiday-season-ryzen-5-5600x-topseller-worldwide/

Mindshare

[storm osprey]

current pc specs? what do you want in terms of size, refresh rate, resolution, etc?

[mortal wadi]

yes i’m on ps5,i jus can’t find a 4k 120,all i find is 4k 75

[prisma anvil]

more like compatible mobo

[lunar dawn]

what console and budget

if you have a next gen console look for oled 4k 120hz, but those monitors are expensive ngl

[lunar dawn]

a very good monitor is the lg c1

its 4k 120hz

and oled

[vital hornet]

I have one too lmaoooo

An lg c1

Need a good surround sound system for it tho 🤔

[humble iris]

yes all your data will be gone

[humble iris]

you should put all your sensitive data/files onto a secondary drive, and remove that drive before installing windows

[plain skiff]

Hi. Whenever I get into a bf2042 game I can't aim or shoot

I have reinstalled windows

Help me

Please

[neon current]

does your mouse not respond?

[plain skiff]

Mouse works for everything else except aim and shoot